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From: Vitaly Feingold :      vitalylazar-at-worldnet.att.net
Date: Thursday, June 29, 2000 7:51 PM
Subject: SEM: LaB6-to-anode distance

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Michael,

You can find the information about LaB6 emitter setting and operation in
Kimball Physics technical bulletins. I am aware of 7 bulletins being
available. Contact Kimball Physics at info-at-kimphys.com . Bulletins are
not posted, so you will have to request them. Ask for at least 2: bulletin #
LaB6-01B (General guidelines for operating ES-423E LaB6 cathodes) and
bulletin # LaB6-03B (Emission drift - LaB6 and gun stability). Kimball
Physics guidelines for LaB6 emitter use are comprehensive yet well suited
for practical applications.

You are welcome to contact me off line for the fax copy, though I do not
have the complete set of bulletins.

Disclaimer: SIA does not have an affiliation with Kimball Physics other than
being satisfied customer.

Vitaly Feingold
Scientific Instruments and Applications
2773 Heath Lane, Duluth GA 30096
(770)232-7785 ph.
(770)232-1791 fax
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From: Ritchie Sims :      r.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 21:14:05 GMT+1200
Subject: still on about the OL

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No replies to my posting!

Don't you guys ever check this flow?
What if the needle valve or (on the 840A) the solenoid shutoff valve
gets blocked?
Come on, someone must have done it!

Incidentally, when I pulled apart the solenoid shutoff valve on my
840A, a small amount of corrosion had jammed it permanently "OPEN".
This is potentially dangerous, as if the water continues to circulate
thru the OL when the instrument is switched off, and if the cooling
water is below the dewpoint, condensation on the outside of the OL
can wreck it by corrosion.

So if you do decide to check the valve on yours, how about measuring
the flow for me?

TIA

rtch




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} Can anyone advise what the water flows should be in the three
} parallel branches (OL; DPs; and power boards) of the 840A)
} The manual spec is } 5 l/min total, but I need to know particularly
} what the flow should be thru the OL.
}
} TIA
}
} rtch
}
} ps replies welcome from JEOL
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From: jim :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 17:11:46 +1000
Subject: RE: Procedure for handling LN2

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I completely agree with the comments by Warren Straszheim and Larry Stoter. A
couple more points:
1 Gasoline is rather more dangerous then liquid nitrogen. If anybody would try
to impose silly forms and rules and thus curtailing the publics access to
gasoline, they be out on their ear fast. Access to gas is available to
countless completely untrained people.
2 What evidence is there that serious accidents have occurred by small scale
handling of liquid nitrogen. Golden rule of administration: Regulate only when
there is a demonstrated need.
3 Its my observation that timid people (intimidated by overstated dangers) are
more likely to cause accidents. I instructed first time users of liquid
nitrogen that there is a danger when the substance is enclosed, that touching
cold metal or pouring it into ones shoes causes burns and that cold tubing can
fracture.
As important, new users must learn that its quite harmless when a little is
splashed and its worth demonstrating that a finger can be stuck into liquid
nitrogen for a couple of seconds. This builds handling confidence.

The safety officer's paper wastes time and paper. Users need to learn how to
handle the substance; its simple enough. Writing up a procedure for pumping
creates a delusion, which has no practical benefits.
Cheers
Jim Darley
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On Saturday, July 01, 2000 3:39 AM, Warren E Straszheim
[SMTP:wesaia-at-iastate.edu] wrote:
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}
} Hi, Everett. I guess I am glad I am not working for a government anymore.
} Otherwise I would probably be having to fill out similar forms. It would be
} nice if the folks that review those forms knew what the issues were. I am
} always afraid that they will know just enough to be dangerous and may
} actually require some unhealthy procedures. But perhaps they are sensible
} and only require that you have something officially in writing to document
} your best practice.
}
} I found the following post in my files from 4 years ago. I hope Larry does
} not mind me reposting it. His conclusions are quite interesting.
}
} Warren S.
}
}
} Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 07:57:02 +0000
} } From: "Dr. L. P. Stoter" {LPS-at-teknesis.demon.co.uk}
}
} } Wil's recent comment on the safety hazards of distilled water brought to
} } mind some peculiar safety regulations here in MD. In reference to liquid N
} ...
} } officer listening in will recommend new safety procedures requiring
} } protective booties!
} } In the end, we can't legislate common sense, nor can we abdicate
} } responsibility to those above.
}
} Try getting your safety officer to conduct an experiment:
}
} 1. Hold out hand,
} 2. Pour a small volume of liquid N2 over hand
} 3. Now the interesting bit - put on a glove, and pour the same quantity of
} liquid N2 into glove.
} 4. Phone for ambulance.
}
} The point is that a brief contact causes no problems, but if the contact is
} continued you get a nasty burn.
}
} Gloves, goggles, masks (and shoes) are actually more dangerous when handling
} liquid N2 than sandals and no protection. And clothes are actually more
} dangerous than being naked. Get the safety officer to experiment. With a
} little persuasion you can probably convince the safety officer that when
} handling liquid N2, everybody should be naked.
}
} More seriously, bureaucrats, administrators and the inexperienced should
} talk to somebody who has real knowledge.
}
} --------------------------------------------------------------
} Dr. Larry Stoter
} Technesis
} 17, Rocks Park Road, Uckfield, E. Sussex, TN22 2AT, United Kingdom
} Larry-at-teknesis.demon.co.uk
} --------------------------------------------------------------
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From: Pbgrover-at-aol.com
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 13:07:17 EDT
Subject: re: handling LN2

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In SEMs the objective lens current required to "bend" the beam is much less
than in TEM where the uncooled objective could fry an egg. Many SEMs use no
water cooling at all. Cooling would help temperature stability and control
drift. I expect that 50ml /minute would do, but such slow flow would soon stop
altogether. I suggest that less than 2 liters/ minute indicate blocked tubing.
Reverse flushing my help. Otherwise recirculate hot vinegar or 1N HCl for an
hour.
Cross threading: I never had a safety officer, get him to do it, otherwise you
may require a ream of paper applications for pumping acid.
Happy now Rich?
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Dr. Larry Stoter (4 years ago) wrote: (and thanks for sharing it, Jim)

Gloves, goggles, masks (and shoes) are actually more dangerous when handling
} liquid N2 than sandals and no protection. And clothes are actually more
} dangerous than being naked. Get the safety officer to experiment. With a
} little persuasion you can probably convince the safety officer that when
} handling liquid N2, everybody should be naked.

I'd like to share my experience with getting naked in a hurry. I was
working around midnight in the biochem lab at Okla. State Univ. in '79 and
was freezing samples to put in the lyophilizer. My arms were full, carrying
numerous flasks plus a dewar of LN2, which I held against my shoulder. As I
turned a corner, I slipped on some spilled water (I was wearing those flip
flop sandals) and the entire contents of the dewar poured down my back.
Fortunately there were no witnesses to my rapid striptease. (I suffered only
a minor burn on my upper back.) I heartily agree with Larry that nudity is
the way to go if you plan to spill LN2 on yourself!

Cheers :o)

Paul Grover
Chief Microscopist and Bottle Washer
Microvista Laboratory
Lafayette, IN


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From: Larry Stoter :      LPS-at-teknesis.demon.co.uk
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 22:12:01 +0100
Subject: RE: Procedure for handling LN2

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Actually, not my comments, although it is a thread to which I
contributed and generally reflects my sentiments.

Regards,
--
Larry Stoter
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email: LPS-at-teknesis.demon.co.uk, Home Phone/Fax: +44 (0)1462 733309


From daemon Sun Jul 2 18:12:15 2000



From: Victor Sidorenko :      antron-at-space.ru
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 01:29:14 +0400
Subject: Re: JEOL 840A cooling water flow

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Hi Ritchie
As I remember the relevant cock should be open on 1/4 turnover. It is
necessary to check, that the water on exit is not very warm at max
current of objective lens. On the other hand, I know the case, when
the water was very cold, therefore the condensate accumulated in the
lens. I figure, the consequences are clear to you.
Regards
Victor Sidorenko, ANTRON Co. Ltd., Moscow, Russia


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Hi

Can anyone advise what the water flows should be in the three
parallel branches (OL; DPs; and power boards) of the 840A)
The manual spec is } 5 l/min total, but I need to know particularly
what the flow should be thru the OL.

TIA

rtch

ps replies welcome from JEOL


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From: Ritchie Sims :      r.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 13:46:01 GMT+1200
Subject: LN2 not quite so safe

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} As important, new users must learn that its quite harmless when a little is
} splashed and its worth demonstrating that a finger can be stuck into liquid
} nitrogen for a couple of seconds. This builds handling confidence.


I think that this is going a bit far.

Ever had any splashed into your eye? Only needs a drop in the wrong
place.

cheers

rtch


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From: Earl Weltmer :      earlw-at-pacbell.net
Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 20:20:32 -0700
Subject: Re: handling LN2

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Hi All,

I have been reading with interest about the handling of LN2 and am
surprised that
no one has taken the safety officer's conservative position.

I am all for getting bureaucrats out of our hair but not at the expense
of
safety.
I agree the the extra clothing, goggles and what have you are cumbersome
and most
of the time un-necessary but I am only reminded of an incident that
happened to
me about 25 years ago.

I was routinely filling a portable LN2 tank from a larger source. The
portable
tank had a pressure gauge that would measure tank pressure: when full
the gauge
read 20 psi; empty 0 psi. The assembly was attached to the tank via a
rubber
vacuum hose clamped at each end.

The normal procedure was to release the "vent" valve, unclamp the rubber
hose,
remove the valve assembly, then refill the portable tank from the larger
LN2
source. I am sure most of you have seen a similar assembly.

Early one morning (before my coffee), I went through the above
procedure. After
unclamping the rubber hose, I proceeded to remove the assembly from the
tank
using both hands to pry it loose.
Unfortunately there was a little pressure left and as soon as the hose
was
released, a stream of LN2
burst from the tank. The noise startled me and in less than a half
second I
removed my hands from the tank. In less than one second, I realized I
was burned
and immediately immersed both hands into water from a nearby sink. Too
late. In
less than one-half second, I received second and third degree LN2 burns
on the
bottom of my hands. The blisters extended from the bottom of both hands
to
halfway up my small finger. Worse yet, both hands were bleeding
.Apparently, both
hands immediately froze and I had cracked the skin by moving them to the
sink.

I wish I had gloves at that time.

I worried for the next two weeks about getting gangrene.

Still today, I don't use gloves as they are cumbersome but I would hate
to think
what would happen if I were sprayed in the eyes from LN2 even for a
split second.

Regards,

Earl Weltmer

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} Dr. Larry Stoter (4 years ago) wrote: (and thanks for sharing it,
Jim)
}
} Gloves, goggles, masks (and shoes) are actually more dangerous when
handling
} } liquid N2 than sandals and no protection. And clothes are actually
more
} } dangerous than being naked. Get the safety officer to experiment.
With a
} } little persuasion you can probably convince the safety officer that
when
} } handling liquid N2, everybody should be naked.
}
} I'd like to share my experience with getting naked in a hurry. I
was
} working around midnight in the biochem lab at Okla. State Univ. in '79
and
} was freezing samples to put in the lyophilizer. My arms were full,
carrying
} numerous flasks plus a dewar of LN2, which I held against my
shoulder. As I
} turned a corner, I slipped on some spilled water (I was wearing those
flip
} flop sandals) and the entire contents of the dewar poured down my
back.
} Fortunately there were no witnesses to my rapid striptease. (I
suffered only
} a minor burn on my upper back.) I heartily agree with Larry that
nudity is
} the way to go if you plan to spill LN2 on yourself!
}
} Cheers :o)
}
} Paul Grover
} Chief Microscopist and Bottle Washer
} Microvista Laboratory
} Lafayette, IN



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From: jim :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 13:55:07 +1000
Subject: RE: LN2 not quite so safe

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Why? A droplet of liquid N2 would bounce of the eye just like of any other skin
and the cushion of gas N2 (Leidenfrost) would help to prevent any damage.
I don't suggest to pour liq N2 into an eye and its prudent to wear goggles when
working with the stuff overhead, but why would you work with liq N2 high up on
your body? Surely when filling an EDS detector on a TEM (higher up than SEM)
you would use steps.
Cheers
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On Monday, July 03, 2000 11:46 PM, Ritchie Sims [SMTP:r.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz]
wrote:
}
} } As important, new users must learn that its quite harmless when a little is
} }
} } splashed and its worth demonstrating that a finger can be stuck into liquid
} }
} } nitrogen for a couple of seconds. This builds handling confidence.
}
}
} I think that this is going a bit far.
}
} Ever had any splashed into your eye? Only needs a drop in the wrong
} place.
}
} cheers
}
} rtch
}
}
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} Department of Geology Fax : 64 9 3737435
} The University of Auckland email : r.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz
} Private Bag 92019
} Auckland
} New Zealand


From daemon Sun Jul 2 23:38:32 2000



From: Allen R. Sampson :      ars-at-sem.com
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:24:10 -0500
Subject: RE: Procedure for handling LN2

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Normally, it is easier, more efficient and safer to use a small ( {10L)
transfer dewar to actually fill an EDS dewar. LN2 itself, as several
others have pointed out, is quite safe to handle. The nudity
recommendations are only slightly tongue in cheek. Small quantities of LN2
on the skin will 'float' on a vapor phase that forms immediately, avoiding
close contact. If the LN2 is able to wedge between skin and gloves or
other clothing, a more intimate and hazardous situation can occur.

The real problem with the use of cryogenic hoses is that the exterior
metals can also achieve cryogenic temperatures. While they will generally
get coated with ice, the underlying metal can burn if touched. When the
contents of a dewar are first being drawn, the warm hoses will cause the
fluid to evaporate. For the first minute or two, all that will be going
into the EDS dewar will be cold vapor. That could cause an accumulation of
ice in the EDS dewar that can affect performance.

The use of a small transfer dewar allows you to only put liquid LN2 in the
EDS dewar. Also, you have a more immediate control of the flow into the
dewar. One other problem using a hose feed system is that you may turn the
pressure up too far at first, since there is only vapor passing through.
When the fluid starts flowing, the pressure may be high enough to cause
excessive 'splashing'.


Allen R. Sampson, Owner
Advanced Research Systems, St. Charles, Illinois 60174
voice 630.513.7093 fax 630.513.7092

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} I will getting my first SEM/EDS shortly and to obtain the required
operating permit from my safety group I need a written procedure for
handling LN2. Specifically I need a written procedure for filling the 3 L
dewar on the EDS detector from a 50 L dewar mounted on a cart. I plan to
make the transfer by using a lab source of N2 to pressurize the 50 L dewar
and have obtained all the valves and fittings required to do this from
another SEM lab. I would appreciate copies of the procedure.
} Thanks,
}
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From: Cheng Huang :      HUANG-at-rsbs.anu.edu.au
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 16:23:05 +1000
Subject: Used Oxford Cryo-stage wanted

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We are looking for an used Oxford cryo-stage, prep-chamber and control
panels for our Jeol 6400 SEM. If anybody wants to sell their old one, please
let us know.

Cheng H.

Microscopy centre
CSIRO
Australia


From daemon Mon Jul 3 04:45:03 2000



From: Dr Eric Lachowski :      che136-at-abdn.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 10:33:38 +0100 (BST)
Subject: liquid nitrogen

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I am a microscopist who also has the misfortune to be the
Departmental Safety Adviser and I have a few comments to
make from the point of view of the enemy. While the jokey
remarks about the advisability of wearing clothing,
protective or otherwise, do have an element of truth,
liquid nitrogen has the potential to do a great deal of
harm. Last month there was a prosecution in Edinburgh
where the Medical Research Council was found guilty of
breaches of Health and Safety law after a technician died
of asphyxiation while dispensing LN2 in a room with
inadequate ventilation and three of his colleagues came
close to suffering the same fate while trying to rescue
him. The room was fitted with a low oxygen alarm but it was
switched off because it went off too frequently and annoyed
him. This is an example of familiarity leading to
dangerous practices. (His bosses got hammered because they
knew about the alarm being switched off.)

To write a procedure you need to think of what could go
wrong, as well as the routine safe handling of the LN2,
which is basically covered by - would you believe it
-common sense.
What would happen if the dewar shattered? A full shield
should stop LN2 fron getting up your nose or in your mouth
and is better than goggles which might trap liquid insude
them. Drain holes in the bottom of the outer case of
the dewar will reduce the risk of your hand freezing to it.
What would happen if the main tank ruptured or fell over?
I know that this is very unlikely, but a simple calculation
based on the volume of the room and the capacity of the
tank will tell you if oxygen depletion to a dangerous level
is a significant possibility - and it will look good on
your paperwork.

LN2 burns are particularly nasty as you may not be aware of
them until the frozen bit thaws out again, by which time
it may be too late to prevent serious damage so you might
want to consider gloves if you are to handle cold parts of
the apparatus. These must be proper cryo-gloves, but it
has to be said that they offer limited protection and can
in certain circumstances be worse than not wearing gloves
at all.

Remember that if it can happen it will,

Eric
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University of Aberdeen
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From daemon Mon Jul 3 04:46:09 2000



From: Malcolm Haswell :      malcolm.haswell-at-sunderland.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 10:29:46 +0100
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Dear all

I can't really leave this one alone - it's just begging for a contrary opinion.

The point about gloves holding liquid nitrogen is of course true if they either fill
from the wrist or are porous, but you should never wear tight gloves - it should
always be possible to shake or flick them off (ideally without leaving fingers
inside) and it is possible to get quite impervious gloves. I am extremely concerned
about the rejection of need for protection because it could too easily mean that you
didn't have any gloves handy when surfaces became cooled. More importantly if you
handle super-cooled liquid nitrogen (or countless other cooling mixtures) for
freezing samples then you just might forget. I am also interested in the comments
about goggles and masks being more dangerous as my understanding was that liquid
nitrogen is relatively safe on dry surfaces but presents a greater hazard to the wet
surface of the eye - if only by temporary blinding the user or causing them to
flinch.

You might also take for granted the nitrogen gas evolving and the consequences could
be fatal in an enclosed space - see:

http://www.safetynews.co.uk/archivenews.htm#£25,000 fine for Human Genetics Unit
liquid nitrogen fatality

I must admit that apart from the above I have seen little, but I would be interested
to hear how a nudist colony would really fare with a major liquid nitrogen leak -
remember the horror stories about frying sausages in nudist camps.

I would also like to counter the thought that gasoline is more dangerous than liquid
nitrogen. It's different - I carry a 4.5 litre sealed container of gasoline/petrol
around in my car quite safely but I wouldn't seal liquid nitrogen like that; open or
poorly sealed storage can lead to icing or condensation of oxygen from air (now
there's a good one to debate - has anyone heard of that causing an accident?) with
possible disastrous consequences; surfaces in prolonged contact with gasoline would
present less danger than with liquid nitrogen; and gasoline has a strong odour so I
wouldn't expect to be asphyxiated by it so easily (OK it might ignite more easily
and be harmful).

Now I must go because I'm on the third page of my triple distilled water risk
assessment.

Malcolm Haswell
University of Sunderland
UK
e-mail: malcolm.haswell-at-sunderland.ac.uk


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} } I completely agree with the comments by Warren Straszheim and Larry Stoter. A
} } couple more points:
} } 1 Gasoline is rather more dangerous then liquid nitrogen. If
} } anybody would try
} } to impose silly forms and rules and thus curtailing the publics access to
} } gasoline, they be out on their ear fast. Access to gas is available to
} } countless completely untrained people.
} } 2 What evidence is there that serious accidents have occurred
} } by small scale
} } handling of liquid nitrogen. Golden rule of administration: Regulate only when
} } there is a demonstrated need.
} } 3 Its my observation that timid people (intimidated by
} } overstated dangers) are
} } more likely to cause accidents. I instructed first time users of liquid
} } nitrogen that there is a danger when the substance is enclosed, that touching
} } cold metal or pouring it into ones shoes causes burns and that cold tubing can
} } fracture.
} } As important, new users must learn that its quite harmless when a little is
} } splashed and its worth demonstrating that a finger can be stuck into liquid
} } nitrogen for a couple of seconds. This builds handling confidence.
} }
} } The safety officer's paper wastes time and paper. Users need to learn how to
} } handle the substance; its simple enough. Writing up a procedure for pumping
} } creates a delusion, which has no practical benefits.
} } Cheers
} } Jim Darley
} } ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS
} } PO Box 111, Thuringowa QLD 4817 Australia
} } Ph +61 7 4774 0370 Fax:+61 7 4789 2313 service-at-proscitech.com
} } Great microscopy catalogue, 500 Links, MSDS, User Notes
} } ABN: 99 724 136 560 www.proscitech.com
} }
} } On Saturday, July 01, 2000 3:39 AM, Warren E Straszheim
} } [SMTP:wesaia-at-iastate.edu] wrote:
} } }
} } }
} } } Hi, Everett. I guess I am glad I am not working for a government anymore.
} } } Otherwise I would probably be having to fill out similar forms. It would be
} } } nice if the folks that review those forms knew what the issues were. I am
} } } always afraid that they will know just enough to be dangerous and may
} } } actually require some unhealthy procedures. But perhaps they are sensible
} } } and only require that you have something officially in writing to document
} } } your best practice.
} } }
} } } I found the following post in my files from 4 years ago. I hope Larry does
} } } not mind me reposting it. His conclusions are quite interesting.
} } }
} } } Warren S.
} } }
} } }
} } } Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 07:57:02 +0000
} } } } From: "Dr. L. P. Stoter" {LPS-at-teknesis.demon.co.uk}
} } }
} } } } Wil's recent comment on the safety hazards of distilled water brought to
} } } } mind some peculiar safety regulations here in MD. In reference
} } } to liquid N
} } } ...
} } } } officer listening in will recommend new safety procedures requiring
} } } } protective booties!
} } } } In the end, we can't legislate common sense, nor can we abdicate
} } } } responsibility to those above.
} } }
} } } Try getting your safety officer to conduct an experiment:
} } }
} } } 1. Hold out hand,
} } } 2. Pour a small volume of liquid N2 over hand
} } } 3. Now the interesting bit - put on a glove, and pour the same quantity of
} } } liquid N2 into glove.
} } } 4. Phone for ambulance.
} } }
} } } The point is that a brief contact causes no problems, but if the contact is
} } } continued you get a nasty burn.
} } }
} } } Gloves, goggles, masks (and shoes) are actually more dangerous when handling
} } } liquid N2 than sandals and no protection. And clothes are actually more
} } } dangerous than being naked. Get the safety officer to experiment. With a
} } } little persuasion you can probably convince the safety officer that when
} } } handling liquid N2, everybody should be naked.
} } }
} } } More seriously, bureaucrats, administrators and the inexperienced should
} } } talk to somebody who has real knowledge.
} } }
} } } --------------------------------------------------------------
} } } Dr. Larry Stoter
} } } Technesis
} } } 17, Rocks Park Road, Uckfield, E. Sussex, TN22 2AT, United Kingdom
} } } Larry-at-teknesis.demon.co.uk
} } } --------------------------------------------------------------
} } }
}
} Actually, not my comments, although it is a thread to which I
} contributed and generally reflects my sentiments.
}
} Regards,
} --
} Larry Stoter
} 34, Astwick Road, Stotfold, Hitchin, Herts, SG5 4AU, UK
} email: LPS-at-teknesis.demon.co.uk, Home Phone/Fax: +44 (0)1462 733309



From daemon Mon Jul 3 06:10:49 2000



From: Mary Gail Engle :      mgengle-at-pop.uky.edu
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 09:00:09 -0400
Subject: Epon 812

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Dear Becky,

as a manufacturer of large chamber SEMs with EDX it would be a pleasure for
us to analyze your sample. The max. size of your sample should not exceed 28
inches in diameter and 24 inches in height.

To give you an impression about the technology of large chamber SEMs just
click it http://www.visitec-em.de/tokyo.html

Greetings from Germany
Martin Klein

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----- Original Message -----
} From: Becky Holdford {r-holdford-at-ti.com}
To: Microscopy ListServer {microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com}
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Hi All,
there is a serious side to LN2 handling even though many points
discussed are valid. I have found most problems associated with LN2 are
caused by things other than the LN2 itself. I remember when I first started
using LN2 over 25 years ago I was filling a glass vacuum flask when it
exploded and filled the room I was in with instant fog, tinsel and plenty of
LN2 as a fine spray. I was unharmed apart from fine glass shards and Al foil
in my hair. I was wearing no protective gear. The LN2 had also been in my
hair as a fine spray thank goodness. I was amazed that I had no effect from
the LN2. After that I started to wear thermal type gloves but soon found
that these were more dangerous than no gloves at all.
There are times when one does have to be careful in handling LN2 and these
in my experience have been with 1/ glass containers. 2/ pressurised
containers and 3/Accidental contact from surfaces at very cold temperatures.

I am sure that there have also been other experiences that we can learn from
so that we can understand how we can avoid them.

Ken Moran.

Moran Scientific Pty Ltd
P.O. Box 651
Goulburn NSW 2580 Australia
Tel 02 4844 4234 (International, 61 2 48444234)
Fax 02 4844 4291 (International, 61 2 48444291)
Email {kmoran-at-goulburn.net.au}
Web Page http://www.goulburn.net.au/~kmoran/
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1258"



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Leona,
I also have bottles of Epon 812 in my lab, some of which have been opened,
and all of which are from the early 1970's. I still use it for certain
applications when nothing else works. Epon 812 blocks will pop off some
plastic culture wells when nothing else will. Even though the dishes are
made of the same material there is some variation from brand to brand and
when in doubt I use the old resin. I haven't varied the original recipe
and have had no problems. I'll buy it from you if you decide not to keep it.

Mary Gail Engle
Electron Microscopy & Imaging Facility
University of Kentucky


From daemon Mon Jul 3 08:48:50 2000



From: Claudia Hayward-Costa :      LS_S562-at-crystal.kingston.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:40:39 +0100
Subject: SEM: Problems with retaining cells on filter

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Dear Microscopists,

I was searching through the archives - found numerous helpful
suggestions, however no real answer to my recent problem.

Here it is:
We were investigating cells in suspension and blood cells in the
SEM. Very straight forward - after fixation in suspension the cells
were filtered on to polycarbonate filters (0.4 um) with a 1ml syringe.

At this stage I removed the filters from the holder and put them into
multiwell plates for additional washes with buffer and dehydration in
alcohol. The multiwell plate was placed on a gently shaking rotator.
The cells on the filter were dried via liquid substitution, gold coated
and observed.

Although the cells survived the procedure structurally quite well I
was surprised that we had to hunt a lot to actually find the cells on
the filter. The pore size of the filter is too small for human blood
cells to escape through - were has 90% of the population gone?

Would it be better to place unfixed cells on the filter?

Is there a way to make them adhere better?

Any suggestion is appreciated - this list is a fantastic source of
know-how.

Thank you.

Claudia


Dr. C. Hayward-Costa
School of Life Sciences
Kingston University
Penrhyn Road, Kingston upon Thames
Surrey KT1 2EE, UK
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From: Geoff Williams :      willi1gl-at-cmich.edu
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 17:44:35 -0400
Subject: AMRAY 1200 - Anyone need one?

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Hi,
I use Epofix epoxy. In a very short time after purchase the resin becomes cloudy and a white sediment forms at the bottom of the bottle. I have heard this sediment described as crystals. I have continued to use the resin---carefully avoiding agitation and entrainment of the sediment when I withdraw it from the bottle. Does anyone else have experience with this?

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National Energy Technology Laboratory
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I would require a used / 2nd hand Cambridge S360 IP backplane.Could anybody
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Colleagues,

We are looking into the possibility of mating a Zeiss AttoArc fluorescence
lamphouse (for HBO100 bulb) to a Leica DMIRB inverted research microscope.
Has anyone had experience doing such a thing?

We can certainly manufacture an adapter to mount the lamphouse to the Leica
scope; that's a minor problem. But I am more concerned about the length of
the beam path and whether the collector lens in the Atto source will bring
the beam to the proper focus point.

I should mention that we have the Leica scope but we haven't yet found an
Atto lamphouse and power supply. We have tried to contact Atto but so far we
have not gotten a response. Perhaps the Atto rig is sold exclusively for
Zeiss scopes? I have done some initial measurements on a Zeiss inverted
scope that has an AttoArc lamphouse on it, and I do believe that it would
work just fine. But some confirmation from another source would be
appreciated!

If anyone has done this before, I would certainly like to hear from you.
Please contact me off-list to discuss.

Thanks for your input.

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Greetings,

We are currently planning to teach the introductory undergrad SEM course
on our JEOL 840A with the digital output. In doing so we are dropping
the 4 month/year service contract and most likely we are going to
discontinue use of the AMRAY 1200.

I am trying to get a feel of the market for an old (early 1970s)
solid-state SEM. The imaging is fantastic - really quite amazing. But
there are quite a few limitations - resolution, magnification, only film
output (4X5 Polaroid or Sheet film), scan speeds.

Is this a machine that anyone might be able to make use of? One idea I
had was this little table top wonder machine would make a great personal
SEM, although for me personally why take it home when I can use the 840A
when ever I want.

Again, I am not committing this good old 'scope to the open market or
the open scrap heap (the other possible avenue for this scope is to call
the scrap yard to haul it off) yet, I just need some potential options
to through at the Chairman and the Dean.

Any third party folks that are servicing these have a desire for
some/all of it?

Geoff

--
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From daemon Mon Jul 3 20:44:23 2000



From: Walck, Scott D. :      walck-at-ppg.com
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 21:28:41 -0400
Subject: used Kreonite Darkroom processor to a good home

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We have a Kreonite automatic photographic paper processor that will go to
the scrap heap very soon if no one wants it. You would probably have to
arrange for shipping. If anyone would like to have it (and a few spare
parts), it can be arranged. Preference will go to a university, but we are
interested in getting it out of the storage area. It was working when we
stored it. It comes with a cart that was made for it. If you process a lot
of paper, this is the unit for you. Let me know this week.


-Scott

Scott D. Walck, Ph.D.
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From daemon Mon Jul 3 21:27:25 2000



From: ard-at-ansto.gov.au (Arthur Day)
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 12:17:25 +1000
Subject: Re: Procedure for handling LN2

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} I would also like to counter the thought that gasoline is more dangerous
} than liquid
} nitrogen. It's different - I carry a 4.5 litre sealed container of
} gasoline/petrol
} around in my car quite safely but I wouldn't seal liquid nitrogen like
} that; open or
} poorly sealed storage can lead to icing or condensation of oxygen from air (now
} there's a good one to debate - has anyone heard of that causing an
} accident?) with
} possible disastrous consequences; surfaces in prolonged contact with
} gasoline would
} present less danger than with liquid nitrogen; and gasoline has a strong
} odour so I
} wouldn't expect to be asphyxiated by it so easily (OK it might ignite more
} easily
} and be harmful).
}

Now there's a thought. To digress a little, we once had an instance where a
guy came down to the SEM lab and asked if he could borrow a 5 litre dewar
to take some LN2 home and show his kids. When asked for more details his
game plan was to sit the dewar on the floor on the passenger side of the
car so that he could make sure that it wouldn't fall over. The answer was
"No, perhaps you should bring the kids to the LN2...."

The point being that even though LN2 use might seem less of a risk than
boiling water when used "properly" and "common sense" is applied, it cannot
be assumed without question that everyone's initial mental picture behind
these two terms is exactly the same!!


Arthur Day, Electron Microscope Unit Phone: 61-2-9717-3457
Ansto Materials Division Fax: 61-2-9543-7179
PMB 1, Menai (Sydney), NSW, 2234 Email: ard-at-ansto.gov.au
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From daemon Tue Jul 4 08:35:28 2000



From: HARRISm-at-esm-semi.co.uk
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 14:16 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: An amusing N2 STORY

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Nitrogen Dangerous ?

An incident I witnessed :

We were having a coffee break in a portacabin room used as a makeshift
lab when a delivery lorry about to top up our cryogenic liquid N2 tank
reversed into and broke the connecting refill valve . We were
observing the resulting stream of liquid N2 spill over the tarmac when
one of the guys remembered that his new car was parked in the enclosed
area and his new tyres may be damaged .
Without a word he pushed through the firedoor , ran the few yards
through the increasingly heavy fog and managed to reverse his car in
the few feet available out of the way of the liquid nitrogen .
But when he went to return he found the fog too heavy to see the few
yards to the portacabin , and quickly became disorientated . As panic
set in he fell to his knees and ,becoming increasingly short of
breath, started crawling- finally to the firedoor which by now was
firmly closed as we had all run for safety .
Fearing asphyxiation he managed to crawl around the building through
the fog and emerged gasping a minute or so later .
The contrast to one minute quietly having a coffee and the next to
witness this life and death ? struggle and accusations of attempted
murder as someone had closed the firedoor caused much merriment at the
time .
All except for the poor 'victim' ( sorry Leighton if your reading
this ) .

Martyn



From daemon Wed Jul 5 21:56:38 2000



From: Chuck Butterick :      cbutte-at-ameripol.com
Date: 7/3/00 10:28 PM
Subject: LN2 Spills

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I've avoided commenting on LN2 to this point, because one person became
quite offended at my comments the 4-5 years ago when this thread was
explored in a very similar manner. Ken's comments about shattered thermos
is an experience, though, I've shared too many times.

Besides being the glass thermos being a different kind of hazard after
breaking, a 5L dewar is very expensive. Just over a year ago I started
using a 2 gallon plastic drink dispenser from WalMart. Cost less than $10.
It lasted almost a year before the seal around the spigot failed. Of
course you can't store LN2 for any length of time but for transport between
tank and EDX detector, it does great. BTW, the top vent was permanently
removed so no pressure buildup could occur.

Chuck Butterick
Engineered Carbons, Inc.
Borger, TX

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Hi All,
there is a serious side to LN2 handling even though many points
discussed are valid. I have found most problems associated with LN2 are
caused by things other than the LN2 itself. I remember when I first started
using LN2 over 25 years ago I was filling a glass vacuum flask when it
exploded and filled the room I was in with instant fog, tinsel and plenty of
LN2 as a fine spray. I was unharmed apart from fine glass shards and Al foil
in my hair. I was wearing no protective gear. The LN2 had also been in my
hair as a fine spray thank goodness. I was amazed that I had no effect from
the LN2. After that I started to wear thermal type gloves but soon found that
these were more dangerous than no gloves at all.
There are times when one does have to be careful in handling LN2 and these
in my experience have been with 1/ glass containers. 2/ pressurised
containers and 3/Accidental contact from surfaces at very cold temperatures.

I am sure that there have also been other experiences that we can learn from
so that we can understand how we can avoid them.

Ken Moran.

Moran Scientific Pty Ltd
P.O. Box 651
Goulburn NSW 2580 Australia
Tel 02 4844 4234 (International, 61 2 48444234)
Fax 02 4844 4291 (International, 61 2 48444291)
Email {kmoran-at-goulburn.net.au}
Web Page http://www.goulburn.net.au/~kmoran/
"Patience accomplishes its object, while hurry speeds to its ruin. Gulistan
1258"






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From: Gordon Vrololjak :      gvrdolja-at-nature.Berkeley.EDU
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:24:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: improving ISI SEM resolution

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Hello,
I've been cleaning and tweaking an older SEM we have in our
laboratory. It is an ISI DS-130. I managed to improve the resolution of
the lower stage from 2000x mag to 10000x magnification through cleaning
the final aperture, cleaning the column liner, replacing the
scintillators, and cleaning the anode. However, I would like to improve
it up to at least 30000x mag for the lower stage. Could anyone send me
some suggestions as how I may improve the performance of this SEM further?

I have an additional problem in using the upper stage of the SEM. It will
not focus above 300x in magnification even though it is properly set up
according to the manual. Anyone ever come across this problem before?
Gordon.

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From: Huggins, Bradley J :      HUGGINBJ-at-bp.com
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:49:09 -0500
Subject: Smart EDS?

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I have a customer who is considering the purchase of an SEM-EDS system. He
has asked me if there are any EDS programs out there that can take the EDS
data, and, given some minimal user input, provide a list of possible phases.
For example, Fe and S alone and in various proportions may yield - iron
sulfide FeS2 or FeS (pyrite or troilite) while the presence of a low level
of O might get a result of iron sulfite or maybe iron sulfate, etc.

I know this is out there past the edge of real usable analytical
information, but just thought I'd see if anything exists. I'm not talking
about anything real fancy like the EBSP techniqes, but basically an "expert"
EDS program that will return a list of potential phases or formulas based on
a little quantitative and specimen knowledge/input from the real expert.


Thanks in advance,
Brad Huggins




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From: Steve Chapman :      PROTRAIN-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 03:31:06 -0400
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Hi,

About your DS130.

Like any SEM you need to be sure that you are not undersaturated and are
very accurately aligned for maximum signal: use the wave form mode.
Performance will be further improved if you run at between 5 and 8mm
working distance. Also, as the HT tank needs time to warm up to give
stability, do not try for performance until the HT has been on for at least
45 minutes.

The upper stage has two settings, high kV and low kV, where a shorter focal
length is usable. In each case the secimen MUST be in exactly the correct
position, not to high not too low as there is very little focal length
adjustment compared with "normal" out of lens SEM.

Good luck

Steve Chapman
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From: tellis2-at-hallmark.com
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 07:52:06 -0500
Subject: liquid nitrogen

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I have also had trouble with exploding glass dewars, I now use the
plastic ones from the chem. suppliers for freezing samples..
For filling up our EDX I do that directly out of the 160L liquid
nitrogen tanks from our supplier, I use a special liquid nitrogen flexible
metal hose with a sintered brass end that lets the gas out the sides and
liquid out the end. The 160L tank sits on a special movable dolly, so I
unchain it and move it next to the EDX or whatever I need to fill up, it
saves spillage and no dewar is needed for EDX fillups.
I ordered the equipment from Southland Cryogenics, Inc. but I have
seen the same stuff at different cryogenic internet sites.

Terry Ellis



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From: Matthew Lynn :      mlynn-at-miami.edu
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 10:42:08 -0400
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Gordon,

I had to get 20,000 to 50,000x out of our DS-130 some years ago...I'll see what
I remember. Since I don't know the details of your setup, I will just throw
some questions at you. What spot size(s) are you using? What size column
aperture? I'm pretty sure you'll need to stick with spot HR, or at least STD
(Small) to reach 30000x. The TV image will be grainy, but photo scans will be
fine. If the image gets TOO noisy, try a larger column aperture. For a given
'Z', a certain combination of spot/aperture will work best. Is your scope on
air cushions? If so, are they inflated properly (not OVER inflated)? If not
on cushions, do you know what your floor vibration is like? Relocating to
ground floor did wonders for ours. You will also need quite high emission
current: setup the filament for high-res. (per the manual) and crank up the
bias as necessary. It's important to check the mechanical gun alignment
frequently...ours drifted quite a bit. Align gun, column aperture, focus,
correct astigmatism. In short, pretty standard stuff. I have some good
pictures at 50,000, not-so-good pictures at 150,000 and that's on the second
floor. Didn't have a functioning 1st stage, so I can't help you there. Wild
guess: range of objective current is not switching over properly when you
switch to 1st stage? Good luck.

Matt

Matthew J. Lynn, Ph.D.
Center for Advanced Microscopy
University of Miami
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From: Roberto Garcia :      rgarcia-at-unity.ncsu.edu
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:20:04 -0400
Subject: MAT: Auger Microscope

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We are having problems with the hardware/software acquiring data from our
JEOL JAMP-30. The unit uses an old PDP11. We are wondering if anyone has a
similar system and can instruct us how to reformat the hard drive and reload
the software on this system. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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From daemon Thu Jul 6 11:56:18 2000



From: Jane LaGoy :      jlagoy-at-bodycote-imt.com
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:33:36 -0400
Subject: RE: Amray 1200 SEM

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If anyone wants Geoff Williams' Amray 1200, I have some sample holders and
tools left over from when we scrapped our Amray 1200 due to water damage.
The only cost would be shipping.

Jane L. LaGoy
Development Engineer
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From: Phillip Rutledge :      prutledge-at-ars.usda.gov
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 06:49:00 -0600
Subject: stains

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Microscopists,

I know this isnt't an EM related question but I'm in search of a couple of LM staining procedures. I'm looking for a good silver stain (s) for looking at neural structures preferably not using chloral hydrate, and a good acid fast procedure for mycobacterium. If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,

Phil Rutledge
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From: diane.a.ciaburri-at-gdds.com
Date: 7/3/00 10:28 PM
Subject: LN2 Spills

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I'm interested in why one would use a glass dewer for transporting LN2 (cost?).
Our transportation dewer is metal - don't know how many walls but I assume it's
got a vacuum between them. It's been in use for over 20 years and had its share
of bumps (I'm sure if it was glass, it'd have been replaced a few times). It's
made by Union Carbide, type UC-4.

It works great, has lasted 'forever' and doesn't have the safety issues of
glass. Is glass that much cheaper?

Diane Ciaburri
General Dynamics
Pittsfield MA


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I've avoided commenting on LN2 to this point, because one person became
quite offended at my comments the 4-5 years ago when this thread was
explored in a very similar manner. Ken's comments about shattered thermos
is an experience, though, I've shared too many times.

Besides being the glass thermos being a different kind of hazard after
breaking, a 5L dewar is very expensive. Just over a year ago I started
using a 2 gallon plastic drink dispenser from WalMart. Cost less than $10.

It lasted almost a year before the seal around the spigot failed. Of
course you can't store LN2 for any length of time but for transport between

tank and EDX detector, it does great. BTW, the top vent was permanently
removed so no pressure buildup could occur.

Chuck Butterick
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Hi All,
there is a serious side to LN2 handling even though many points
discussed are valid. I have found most problems associated with LN2 are
caused by things other than the LN2 itself. I remember when I first started
using LN2 over 25 years ago I was filling a glass vacuum flask when it
exploded and filled the room I was in with instant fog, tinsel and plenty of
LN2 as a fine spray. I was unharmed apart from fine glass shards and Al foil
in my hair. I was wearing no protective gear. The LN2 had also been in my
hair as a fine spray thank goodness. I was amazed that I had no effect from
the LN2. After that I started to wear thermal type gloves but soon found that
these were more dangerous than no gloves at all.
There are times when one does have to be careful in handling LN2 and these
in my experience have been with 1/ glass containers. 2/ pressurised
containers and 3/Accidental contact from surfaces at very cold temperatures.

I am sure that there have also been other experiences that we can learn from
so that we can understand how we can avoid them.

Ken Moran.

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Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 15:10:15 -0400
Subject: Re: stains

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Phillip Rutledge wrote:

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Dear Phil:

Without knowing more specifics, the Bodain method is a good silver stain for CNS. Details in any good histotechnology text. Can't help with mycobacterium.

Geoff

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From: Purdy, Sam :      SPurdy-at-nationalsteel.com
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:22:37 -0500
Subject: RE: Mat. Electropolishing.

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Dorrance:
Have look at ASTM Standard E 1558, Standard Guide for
Electropolishing of Metallographic Specimens.


Sam Purdy
Tech Center, National Steel Corp.
Trenton MI
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From: hard-at-acsu.buffalo.edu
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 16:47:38 -0500
Subject: Course Announcement II

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Phil
I wonder if Del Rio Hortega's silver stain would be good for your
purpose. See Goldblatt & Trump (1965) The application of del Rio
Hortega's Silver method to epon-embedded tissue. Stain Technology
40, 105-115.

Add 5ml of 10% AgNO3 to 20ml of 5% aq. sodium carbonate.
Horrible precipitate occurs. Add 0.88 ammonia dropwise until
precipitate has just cleared. Dilute to 45ml, filter.

Stain free-floating sections at 60oC for 30-120 min (use a solid
watch-glass with glass cover). Transfer sections to distilled water to
rinse, then dry down to slides from water at 60oC. reduce in 0.5%
formaldehyde for 30-60 seconds, wash in distilled water, fix in 5%
sodium thiosulphate (hypo), wash again and mount.

Chris

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From: smithde-at-valunet.com (Diane Smith)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:43:29 -0500
Subject: PCP positive control slides

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This isn't an EM question, but I'm hoping someone can give me an answer. I
need postive control slides for PCP fluorescence testing. If anyone knows of
any company that sells them, please let me know. Thanks




From daemon Thu Jul 6 15:59:02 2000



From: lpeterso987-at-hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:49:02 -0500
Subject: student microscope adjustments

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Email: lpeterso987-at-hotmail.com
Name: lauren peterson
School: university of michigan

Question: I bought an old student microscope (3 objectives) from a biology
lab. It has a mirror and condenser lens (with iris) that can be focused up
and down. It doesn't seem to make much difference how the lens is adjusted
or how the iris is set -- both just seem to affect the brightness. Is
there a procedure for adjusting it to get the best images?

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From: Michael Dunlap :      mrdunlap-at-ucdavis.edu
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:59:48 -0700
Subject: improving ISI SEM resolution

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Gordon,

I can help you on both stages. Following the ISI manual can be like
many manuals, a little difficult.

The 1st stage is the simplest problem to fix. Select a tall or short
specimen holder, mount your sample on the adjustable base of the
holder. Turn the base until the top most portion of your sample is
at the same height as the top of the holder. Not above!! If you
selected the tall holder the 'Mode' button need to be on 2 and for
the short holder the 'Mode' button needs to be on 1. Go ahead and
put the sample and view. Increase the magnification up to 1 KX,
adjust the focus knob. You should be able to find focus.

As for the 2nd stage, it sounds as you are close in your alignments.
You should continue to practice. I find that it is difficult to
routinely expect to take micrographs above 20 KX. The general rule
around here is if you want to image above 20 KX go to the upper stage.

We use a LaB6 filament on our DS-130, I was imaging this week at 30KX
on the lower stage and at 100KX on the upper.

Mike
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From daemon Thu Jul 6 17:46:22 2000



From: =shAf= :      mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:36:46 -0700
Subject: RE: liquid nitrogen

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terry writes ...

} I have also had trouble with exploding glass dewars, ...
} For filling up our EDX I do that directly out of the
} 160L liquid nitrogen tanks from our supplier,
} I use a special liquid nitrogen flexible metal hose
} ...

The 160L dewar I fill from has a "nalgene" hose ... and I've never
had a problem with it. However, one plastic hose exploded on me while
filling, but it wasn't nalgene, and I can't remember what it was.
But, it does underline the use of wearing protective eyewear while
working with LN2!

=shAf= :o)



From daemon Thu Jul 6 19:16:37 2000



From: Rick Powell at Nanoprobes :      rpowell-at-nanoprobes.com
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:03:11 -0500
Subject: TEM: Service contractors/water chiller wanted, NY region

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Hello List Members:

We are planning to acquire a Phillips 300 TEM for our lab located on Long
Island, NY. Does anyone have any recommendations for independent
service/maintenance contractors who could provide a service contract in
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Also, we don't yet have a recirculating water chiller. If anyone has one
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From daemon Thu Jul 6 19:16:58 2000



From: jim :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:55:58 +1000
Subject: RE: Procedure for handling LN2 - my summary

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This is my summary of that thread, reflecting my bias and my logic. Clearly
there were divergent opinions.
Everett had simply asked for a copy of "handling procedures". Hope that
somebody could help him.
The question though seems to be "is liquid nitrogen a dangerous substance"?
Obviously yes, but so is water - to wit drownings. Danger is a comparative
matter. The question "Is a written procedure required?" follows later.

Many common substances are dangerous when mishandled.
Petrol/ gas in my opinion is rather more dangerous than liquid nitrogen.
Gas is much more common than LN2, but few gas accidents are reported. LN2
accidents become folklore, not because of the greater danger of LN2 but because
those accidents demonstrate ingenious, applied stupidity (hi, that would make a
fine Uni course).
Although gas and its dangers are well known, people inhale it (brain damage and
death), start fires with it, store it in crummy plastic containers, siphon it
by mouth, use it to re kindle a fire etc.
I must agree though, gas is not a good comparison to LN2.

Boiling water is! Arguably its more dangerous than LN2 because it has no
insulating layer. So boiling water poured onto skin will burn, whereas LN2
would only do so in extreme cases. Pressurized LN2 must be compared with
pressurized boiling water, like in a pressure cooker or autoclave. Boiling
water is undeniably dangerous and many, many burns occur every day. Of course
its a very commonly used substance, but that means that all, except small
children would know of the danger and should use care.

Why then is boiling water not a tightly controlled substance and why is no
operator's license required to make a cup of coffee? Ask your safety officer.
Our discussion concerns LN2 use in laboratories, by people with more training
and understanding of physical properties than that of the general public. Why
should these people be required to submit a procedural outline for simple
tasks, such as transferring some LN2?
Who trained the safety officer to recognize that the procedure makes sense?
What is the cost benefit of introducing another bit of paper to the laboratory?
How is safety enhanced by a single task written procedure?
Most LN2 accidents are caused by lack of knowledge of the material's physical
properties, or temporary "insanity"?
A six minute briefing of LN2 properties and don'ts would benefits the neophyte
and safety rather more than a cabinet full of paper. The required written
procedure on decanting LN2 is a fig leaf for the safety officer. Unfortunately
safety officers have become part of a bureaucratic system and frequently they
are required to perform nonsensical tasks.

Overstated? Well, we now have in Australia legislation in place which makes the
importation, sale and trans shipping of Uranyl Acetate virtually impossible.
PST has given up on UA and I don't know of anybody who is willing to run that
legislative gauntlet for the sale of a few jars of UA!
This legislation applies in a country that produces thousands of tons of U
Yellowcake (radiological and chem toxicity similar to UA), were jumbo jets
carry 370 kg of U metal in the tail fin and were Americium smoke detectors are
handled by the public.
Cheers
Jim Darley
ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS
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} On Friday, June 30, 2000 6:35 AM, Everett Ramer
[S} MTP:Everett.Ramer-at-netl.doe.gov] wrote:

} I will getting my first SEM/EDS shortly and to obtain the required
operating permit from my safety group I need a written procedure for
handling LN2. Specifically I need a written procedure for filling the 3 L
dewar on the EDS detector from a 50 L dewar mounted on a cart. I plan to
make the transfer by using a lab source of N2 to pressurize the 50 L dewar
and have obtained all the valves and fittings required to do this from
another SEM lab. I would appreciate copies of the procedure.
} Thanks,
}
} Everett Ramer
} National Energy Technology Laboratory
} P.O. Box 10940, Cochrans Mill Road
} Pittsburgh, PA, USA 15236-0940
} Voice: 412-386-4920
} FAX: 412-386-4806
} ramer-at-netl.doe.gov


From daemon Fri Jul 7 03:32:43 2000



From: Steve Chapman :      PROTRAIN-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 04:19:42 -0400
Subject: Improving SEM Performance 2

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Hi Again

Been thinking about your problem and of course suddenly thought that I did
not pass on the most important message last time!

If you want better performance from any SEM you must make sure that the
emission current is high enough. For DS130 use a current 100uA above the
standing current (the current that you have when the filament is off but
the selected high voltage is on).

Good luck

Steve Chapman
Senior Consultant Protrain
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From daemon Fri Jul 7 07:59:31 2000



From: Roberto Garcia :      rgarcia-at-unity.ncsu.edu
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 08:49:23 -0400
Subject: MAT: Electropolishing

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Try www.kaker.com they have and online demo of electropolishing procedures.
You can not search them but it will list all of the ones they have and then
you just have to look for your material of interest.
______________________________________________
Roberto Garcia
Senior Analyst, Metallography
NC State University / Analytical Instrumentation Facility
Campus Box 7531 Room 318 EGRC
1010 Main Campus Dr.
Raleigh, NC 27695-7531
(919) 515-8628
(919) 515-6965 Fax
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From daemon Fri Jul 7 09:43:00 2000



From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 10:26:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Procedure for handling LN2

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Dear List,
Here are my 2 cent's worth:
1) Teflon tubing does not become brittle at 77 K, so it
is the best inexpensive material for transferring LN2
safely. Using insulating foam tubing around the teflon
reduces LN2 boiling to a very acceptible degree.
2) Do not set up an automatic fill for LN2 for an EDS
detector; when we tried that, the fill valve froze open,
and the resulting LN2-fall broke the seal on the detec-
tor dewar, which then became convex on the bottom.
(We were able to fix it--I'll be happy to let anyone
who is interrested know how.) Naturally, this occurred
at the beginning of a long weekend; fortuitous, timely
discovery prevented a worse disaster.
And another penny's worth:
3) Glass dewars are not used because they're cheap;
they're used because the silvered glass is an excel-
lent insulator. They are very efficient for containing
or transporting LN2, and they hold up very well, unless
one drops a screwdriver into one. Stainless steel is
tougher, but less efficient and more expensive.
Yours,
Bill Tivol



From daemon Fri Jul 7 10:14:43 2000



From: Michelle.Taurino-at-aventis.com
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:48:27 -0500
Subject: Removing Tol Blue from Epon embedded sections

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Hello-

I am looking for any suggestions on how to remove Tol. blue from Epon
embedded sections?

I've tried warm water, 100% ethanol, and acetone.

Any other recommendations?

Will the Tol. blue interfere with UA/Pb staining if I do not remove the Tol.
Blue??

Thank you-
Michelle Taurino
Aventis Pharmaceuticals
Bioimaging and Molecular Histology
Tel-908-231-3357
Fax-908-231-3962
e-mail: Michelle.Taurino-at-aventis.com



From daemon Fri Jul 7 10:35:11 2000



From: Stanley L. Flegler :      flegler-at-pilot.msu.edu
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 11:29:21 -0400
Subject: TEM Job Announcement

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The following TEM position has been approved at Michigan State University.
The individual selected will supervise a newly funded 200 kV field emission
TEM fully equipped with EDS, PEELS, Gatan Image Filter, STEM, digital
imaging, etc.
Stanley L. Flegler, Acting Director
Center for Advanced Microscopy
Michigan State University


Full-time transmission electron microscopist. This is a
teaching/service/support position at the Center for Advanced Microscopy at
Michigan State University. CAM is the central microscopy laboratory for
the MSU campus, serving users from a wide variety of disciplines. The
appointment will be in the Academic Specialist category, one of the
academic support ranks at the University. The appointment will be a 12
month, annual year appointment in the continuing appointment system.
Salary will be commensurate with experience. Required: A Ph.D. in the
physical sciences or a field of engineering and a minimum of three years
experience in TEM instrument operation, maintenance, physical science
sample preparation, and teaching. Experience in a multi-user facility and
familiarity with biological TEM sample preparation is a plus. The
individual must have a demonstrated competence in and a strong commitment
to graduate level instruction and be willing to assist others in planning
their research programs and/or sample preparation. U.S. citizenship is not
required; applicants who are not U.S. citizens or permanent residents must
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States. The position begins effective Spring 2001. Submit a Curriculum
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Integrated Plant Systems, Michigan State University, East Lansing, MI
48824. Applications are due by Sept. 18, 2000. MSU is an Affirmative
Action/Equal Opportunity Institution.


From daemon Fri Jul 7 13:22:51 2000



From: Chris Jeffree :      cjeffree-at-srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:04:12 +0100
Subject: Dewars for handling LN2

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I use "dewars" made of foamed polystyrene for transferring small
volumes of LN2, and for any work where there is a risk of dropping
heavy metal objects into the dewar. They are safe, light, robust, and
inexpensive, although they do not have anything approaching the
holding time of glass dewars. They should be obtainable through
most EM supply houses. If you have difficulty sourcing them,
contact me offline.

Just for the record, I have used glass dewars for LN2 for more than
30 years, and have never known one to break under thermal shock.

Chris Jeffree
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dr Chris Jeffree
University of Edinburgh
Biological Sciences EM Facility
Daniel Rutherford Building
King's Buildings EDINBURGH EH9 3JH
Tel: +44 (0) 131 650 5345
FAX: +44 (0) 131 650 6563

Inveresk Cottage, 26 Carberry Road,
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From daemon Fri Jul 7 13:34:34 2000



From: Deanne Hoenscheid :      dlh3-at-lehigh.edu
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 14:24:51 -0400
Subject: Position Available

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Please note the following job posting at Lehigh University:

RESEARCH ENGINEER

The Department of Materials Science and Engineering at Lehigh University
is seeking a Research Engineer. This position will be responsible for
high spatial resolution x-ray mapping of segregants in alloys using the
VGHB603; theoretical spectral simulation using desktop spectrum
analyzer; and zeta factor mapping and quantification.

Qualified candidates should have Ph.D. in Materials Science or related
field with at least 3 years of postdoctoral experience. Experience with
300KeV Field Emission Gun STEMs is essential.

Anticipated starting date is April 1, 2001. Resumes should be sent to
Deanne Hoenscheid, Materials Research Center, Lehigh University, 5 E.
Packer Avenue, Bethlehem, PA 18015. Lehigh University is an AA/EOE.






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From daemon Fri Jul 7 14:11:45 2000



From: milesd-at-us.ibm.com
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:03:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Dewars for handling LN2

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I believe the problems arise when scratches occur from filling
and handling the glass dewars. These can be so fine, as to be
difficult to see. (when cutting glass, a fine, chip free scribe does
a better job than a heavy one) When the conditions are just
right (stress from cooling down, or tipping the dewar up), the
vacuum bottle will implode.

We have some old metal outside, plastic inside dewars for
transferring LN2 from the storage/supply dewar, to the system
dewar. They are not used to store LN2, but are good and
rugged for all of the handling they get. They were here when
I started, so I do not know where they came from.

Darrell



From daemon Fri Jul 7 16:16:00 2000



From: Bryan Tracy :      bryant-at-brahms.amd.com
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 13:56:12 -0700
Subject: FIB opening at AMD Sunnyvale

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We are please to offer the following position at AMD Sunnyvale



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From daemon Fri Jul 7 17:41:30 2000



From: Joyce Kotzuk :      JKotzuk-at-salud.unm.edu
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 16:28:06 -0600
Subject: TEM-Immuno methods review papers

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Hello,
I am looking for a good review paper concerning immuno EM methods. There was a book suggested recently "Fine Structure Immunocytochemistry", which I am trying to locate through my library here at UNM, but I am really more interested in a few good papers.
Thanks in advance,
Joyce A. Kotzuk
Univ. of New Mexico pathology dept.



From daemon Fri Jul 7 18:32:41 2000



From: Nestor J. Zaluzec :      zaluzec-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:20:56 -0500
Subject: Re: student microscope adjustments

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}
} Dear Lauren,
}
} While it looks to you like both of these adjustments affect just
} brightness, they are actually have a profound influence on the coherence of
} the light hitting the sample. To test, move the objectives out of position
} and place a piece of white card vertically on the stage so that you can
} catch the beam emerging from the condenser. Open and close the condenser
} and watch the beam go from a wide angle to a narrow pencil. Open the
} condenser then focus it up and down. Notice how the location of the cone
} changes.
}
} The narrower the beam, the more coherent the light impinging on the sample.
} The more coherent, the more visible the diffraction effects at edges. For
} nearly invisible specimens like cheek cells, the diffraction will enhance
} edge information. If you go to far, you will see the bright and dark
} fringes which result from the constructive and destructive interference of
} diffracted waves hitting the edges.
}
} Hope this is helpful.
}
} Best regards,
} Barbara Foster,President
} Microscopy/Microscopy Education
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From daemon Fri Jul 7 21:21:13 2000



From: Sergey Ryazantsev :      sryazant-at-ucla.edu
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 19:04:40 -0700
Subject: Fwd: Re: Procedure for handling LN2

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Yes, I did show my kids some spectacular show with LN2. You could make
beautiful white clouds pouring LN2 in warm water. The most successful
demonstration was, when I was using 1 liter calibrated flask with long
neck. White cloud coming from the neck forms kind of shape my kids called
jinn from "1000 +1 night Shaherezad". We also used LN2 in some shows at
traditional New Year Party at my Institute in Russia. One time I was using
regular thermos filled with LN2 to transport my samples from Novosibirsk to
Moscow (8 hours fly). People at Novosibirsk were short in dry ice, we were
using LN2 instead (smile). You could also put a small piece of dry ice
into 1.5 ml Eppendorf tube and place it under the door of your boss (a
couple of tubes are better). They are blow out with nice sound like a shot
from good pistol (but less dangerous). Honestly speaking, I did it one time.


} Now there's a thought. To digress a little, we once had an instance where a
} guy came down to the SEM lab and asked if he could borrow a 5 litre dewar
} to take some LN2 home and show his kids. When asked for more details his
} game plan was to sit the dewar on the floor on the passenger side of the
} car so that he could make sure that it wouldn't fall over. The answer was
} "No, perhaps you should bring the kids to the LN2...."
}
} The point being that even though LN2 use might seem less of a risk than
} boiling water when used "properly" and "common sense" is applied, it cannot
} be assumed without question that everyone's initial mental picture behind
} these two terms is exactly the same!!

_____________________________________

Sergey Ryazantsev Ph. D.
Electron Microscopy
UCLA School of Medicine
Department of Biological Chemistry
Box 951737
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1737

Phone: (310) 825-1144
Pager: (310) 845-0248
FAX (departmental): (310) 206-5272
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From daemon Sat Jul 8 08:08:03 2000



From: Alan Berginc :      aberginc-at-cressington.com
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 07:52:56 -0500
Subject: Plexiglas implosion guards for Bell Jars

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}
} * Hello to all.
} * I am looking for a supplier of acrylic (Plexiglas) implosion guards for
} a 12
} * inch diameter glass bell jar for a vacuum evaporator. I can only seem
} to find
} * the wire mesh or expanded metal types. I would like to know if anyone
} has such
} * a thing or knows who fabricates them or supplies them off the shelf.
}
} * Reply on line or off line direct to me at aberginc-at-cressington.com.
}
}

Regards.........Alan Berginc
Cressington Scientific, INC




From daemon Sat Jul 8 09:36:09 2000



From: jim :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 00:25:43 +1000
Subject: FW: Removing Tol Blue from Epon embedded sections

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Acid alcohol removes tol blue and many other stains. Use 50 to 70% Ethanol with
a 1ml of 1N HCl per 20ml, then rinse with water. When used quickly only little
destaining occurs and the tol blue differentiates giving nice pinks and blues
Cheers
Jim Darley
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On Friday, July 07, 2000 4:48 AM,
"Michelle.Taurino-at-aventis.com"-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
[SMTP:"Michelle.Taurino-at-aventis.com"-at-sparc5.microscopy.com] wrote:
}
}
}
} Hello-
}
} I am looking for any suggestions on how to remove Tol. blue from Epon
} embedded sections?
}
} I've tried warm water, 100% ethanol, and acetone.
}
} Any other recommendations?
}
} Will the Tol. blue interfere with UA/Pb staining if I do not remove the Tol.
} Blue??
}
} Thank you-
} Michelle Taurino
} Aventis Pharmaceuticals
} Bioimaging and Molecular Histology
} Tel-908-231-3357
} Fax-908-231-3962
} e-mail: Michelle.Taurino-at-aventis.com
}



From daemon Sat Jul 8 10:42:36 2000



From: Susnitzky, David :      david.susnitzky-at-intel.com
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 08:31:58 -0700
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From daemon Sat Jul 8 14:58:13 2000



From: rahul padmakar panat :      panat-at-students.uiuc.edu
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 14:47:44 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: SEM straining stage

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Hi,
I am looking for
1) possible SEM accessory provider's list (that can
supply straining stages) and
2) interaction with somebody with some prior
experience with straining stages in SEM;
since I want to perform the following experiment:
Compression of a coated superally cube with adjustable
dimensions (e.g. 10*10*6mm) either by direct compression or
by bending. If possible, I would also like to repeat this
experiment at various temperatures (say up to 1200C).
The above experiment is to be observed under an SEM
which is Hitachi S800.

Thanks
Rahul Panat
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rahul Panat
Dept of Theoretical & Applied Mechanics
Univ of Illinois -at- Urbana-Champaign
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From daemon Sat Jul 8 16:57:15 2000



From: Chris :      cholp-at-ncweb.com
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:34:22 -0500
Subject: Nitrogen in presence of titanium

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I am working on a resolving a bit of a sticky problem. A customer wants
to confirm or disprove whether complex Ti/W/Nb carbo-nitrides in a Ni base
alloy do indeed contain nitrogen. I have 2 SEMs, both with WDS. The
better of the 2 uses an LSM080 crystal for the nitrogen wavelengths, the
other has an LOD. My approach so far has been to establish peak ratios
on cp titanium and a TiN standard. Some of the numbers look promising, but
I suspect an influence on the ratios due to the presence of: W, Nb, and
proximity of the matrix. The carbides are small and needle shaped,
perhaps 1-2 by 10-15 microns. Any comments or suggestions would be
greatly appreciated! Thanks, Chris Holp Reply through: Hm:
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From daemon Sun Jul 9 09:29:02 2000



From: Dmitri Lapotko :      ld-at-hmti.ac.by
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 17:11:13 +0300
Subject: Fw: LM:need 12-bit CCD camera

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Dear group,

I am looking for low-budget camera w/board:
-CCD digital monochrome (630 nm);
-12-14 bit dynamic range;
-min format 512x512;
-shutter;
-external triggering;
-1 frame/s min rate;
-PC-compatible board.
Does anybody have any used equipment for sale?
Any input on the sources for inexpencive new cameras with
such specs will be appreciated.

Best regards

Dmitri Lapotko
Luikov Heat and Mass Transfer Institute
Minsk, Belarus

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fax:(375172)842486
ld-at-ns1.hmti.ac.by



From daemon Sun Jul 9 16:59:26 2000



From: Garrison, Becky :      becky.garrison-at-jax.ufl.edu
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 17:40:35 -0400
Subject: stains

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We use the Sevier-Munger modification found in Sheehan's Histotechnology
text for our neuropath stains. It is more reproducible than the Bodian
stain. The protocol is lengthy; will fax if you don't have access to the
text.

Becky Garrison
Dept. Pathology
Shands Jacksonville
Jacksonville, FL
904-549-6237

-----Original Message-----
} From: Phillip Rutledge [mailto:prutledge-at-ars.usda.gov]
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 8:49 AM
To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


Microscopists,

I know this isnt't an EM related question but I'm in search of a couple of
LM staining procedures. I'm looking for a good silver stain (s) for
looking at neural structures preferably not using chloral hydrate, and a
good acid fast procedure for mycobacterium. If anyone can help, I'd
appreciate it.

Thanks,

Phil Rutledge
USDA/ARS
voice: (410) 778-4136, 2120
fax: (410) 778-4399
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From daemon Mon Jul 10 07:55:10 2000



From: Ladd Research :      ladres-at-worldnet.att.net
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:41:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Plexiglas implosion guards for Bell Jars

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Alan Berginc wrote:
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} } * Hello to all.
} } * I am looking for a supplier of acrylic (Plexiglas) implosion guards for
} } a 12
} } * inch diameter glass bell jar for a vacuum evaporator. I can only seem
} } to find
} } * the wire mesh or expanded metal types. I would like to know if anyone
} } has such
} } * a thing or knows who fabricates them or supplies them off the shelf.
} }
} } * Reply on line or off line direct to me at aberginc-at-cressington.com.
} }
} }
}
} Regards.........Alan Berginc
} Cressington Scientific, INC


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Please check our web site, http://www.laddresearch.com for catalog
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From daemon Mon Jul 10 10:02:18 2000



From: hpadams :      hpadams-at-bcm.tmc.edu
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:51:25 -0500
Subject: resin mixer

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EM people/, does anyone know of a supplier who sells the Zoakes Teflon Helix
stirrer? I believe that was its name. It provided an efficient way to mix
resins without entraining air into the mix. I haven't seen it listed in the
any of the recent catalogues.

Hank Adams
Manager
Integrated Microscopy Core
Molecular and Cellular Biology
Baylor College of Medicine
Houston, Tx 77030



From daemon Mon Jul 10 10:46:19 2000



From: Nafisa Ghori :      nghori-at-stanford.edu
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From: Steve Johnson :      stephen.johnson-at-anlw.anl.gov
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:47:46 -0600
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MATERIAL SCIENTIST

We are seeking a Material Scientist to perform TEM and SEM characterization
of materials, particularly nuclear waste forms intended for repository
disposal. Measure and evaluate the properties of all types. Participate in
planning, developing, and implementing materials research to develop ceramic
materials for waste forms and process equipment components.

The successful candidate will:
o Conduct and direct materials characterization, with special emphasis on
TEM examination of nuclear waste forms.
o Analyze, evaluate, document, and communicate results of experiments and
programs.
o Contribute to and participate in internal and external Laboratory
technical reporting and presentations.
o Collaborate with other technical staff in the specialty area of materials
science.
o Ensure that the TEM is properly maintained.

We are seeking candidates with:
o Ph.D. or M.S. in Materials Science, Ceramics or related field.
o US Citizenship and ability to obtain DOE security clearance required.

Argonne offers a professional environment, excellent working conditions and
fringe benefits. Please mail or e-mail your resume, quoting Ref: Material
Scientist, ANL-W-1234, to:
Argonne National Laboratory-West
Human Resources
P.O. Box 2528
Idaho Falls, ID 83403-2528.
E-mail: hr-at-anlw.anl.gov
Equal Opportunity Employer


From daemon Mon Jul 10 11:08:09 2000



From: Mary Mager :      mager-at-interchange.ubc.ca
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:57:05 -0700
Subject: Re: Nitrogen in presence of titanium

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Deear Chris,
You might want to look at my article on N in Ti in the August, 1999 issue of
Microscopy Today. By looking carefully at the peak shape of pure Ti vs. TiN
, I found the optimum location on the peak to test for the presence of N.
The W and Nb should not interfere at this wavelength and you should be able
to see if there is N above a detection limit of less than 0.5 weight
percent. The other thing that might help is to do an extraction replica of
the inclusions, so that they are free of the Ni matrix. Lay this down on a
carbon stub to reduce the background and improve your peak-to-background ratio.
At 04:34 PM 7/8/00 -0500, you wrote:

} I am working on a resolving a bit of a sticky problem. A customer wants
} to confirm or disprove whether complex Ti/W/Nb carbo-nitrides in a Ni base
} alloy do indeed contain nitrogen. I have 2 SEMs, both with WDS. The
} better of the 2 uses an LSM080 crystal for the nitrogen wavelengths, the
} other has an LOD. My approach so far has been to establish peak ratios
} on cp titanium and a TiN standard. Some of the numbers look promising, but
} I suspect an influence on the ratios due to the presence of: W, Nb, and
} proximity of the matrix. The carbides are small and needle shaped,
} perhaps 1-2 by 10-15 microns. Any comments or suggestions would be
} greatly appreciated! Thanks, Chris Holp Reply through: Hm:
} {mailto:cholp-at-ncweb.com} cholp-at-ncweb.com , Wk:
} {mailto:holpcr-at-earthlink.net} holpcr-at-earthlink.net , or through the group.
Good luck,
Mary

Mary Mager
Electron Microscopist
Metals and Materials Engineering
University of British Columbia
6350 Stores Road
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4
CANADA
tel: 604-822-5648
e-mail: mager-at-interchg.ubc.ca



From daemon Mon Jul 10 11:28:43 2000



From: Jorge P. :      jpadilla-at-blue.weeg.uiowa.edu
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:20:05 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: unsuscribe

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unsuscribe

Jorge P.





From daemon Mon Jul 10 11:44:05 2000



From: Smartech :      smartech-at-javanet.com
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:44:00 -0400
Subject: Another digital camera question

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I recently acquired a unitron MeC3-2313. It is a 30 year old, mono-ocular,
metallurgical, inverted, optical microscope. The images are high
resolution, bright, and the stage works well. I want to connect it to a
digital camera. It came w/ a T-mount and I can get a C-mount from unitron
for $625, I suppose I need a digital camera that has a removable lens. I
have seen specs for a the SV Micro ($2200) and the Pixera ($1200). Does
anybody have any other cameras they would like to suggest or experience w/
these camera? Is the overall image quality good for theses two cameras? I
am afraid that the resolution would "not be there" in the color mode for the
Pixera. I am not sure I want a consumer camera that has been adapted for a
microscope like the Nikon and Kodak, since they include a lens that cannot
be re-moved and therefore the minimum magnification work would be "upped" by
3X, if I could go thru the ocular. Plus, I am not sure I can get adaptors
for my scope anyway. I would also like to keep my only ocular open, so I
can skip the whole digital phase while doing sample inspection. Like to
keep the entire endevor under $3K.

Thanks

Ric



From daemon Mon Jul 10 14:20:37 2000



From: Walck, Scott D. :      walck-at-ppg.com
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:10:34 -0400
Subject: RE: Another digital camera question

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We have both of those cameras attached to two different stereomicroscopes.
The SV-micro produces a bit better picture but is not as easy to work with
especially getting the exposure just right. I like using the Pixera -its
quick and easy. We don't do anything critical with these cameras however.
But they work well for the price.

For adapters, contact the folks at Diagnostic Instruments. Their web site
is
http://www.diaginc.com/ccdguide.htm


-Scott

Scott D. Walck, Ph.D.
PPG Industries, Inc.
Glass Technology Center
Guys Run Rd. (packages)
P. O. Box 11472 (letters)
Pittsburgh, PA 15238-0472

Walck-at-PPG.com

(412) 820-8651 (office)
(412) 820-8161 (fax)



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} I recently acquired a unitron MeC3-2313. It is a 30 year
} old, mono-ocular,
} metallurgical, inverted, optical microscope. The images are high
} resolution, bright, and the stage works well. I want to
} connect it to a
} digital camera. It came w/ a T-mount and I can get a C-mount
} from unitron
} for $625, I suppose I need a digital camera that has a
} removable lens. I
} have seen specs for a the SV Micro ($2200) and the Pixera
} ($1200). Does
} anybody have any other cameras they would like to suggest or
} experience w/
} these camera? Is the overall image quality good for theses
} two cameras? I
} am afraid that the resolution would "not be there" in the
} color mode for the
} Pixera. I am not sure I want a consumer camera that has been
} adapted for a
} microscope like the Nikon and Kodak, since they include a
} lens that cannot
} be re-moved and therefore the minimum magnification work
} would be "upped" by
} 3X, if I could go thru the ocular. Plus, I am not sure I can
} get adaptors
} for my scope anyway. I would also like to keep my only
} ocular open, so I
} can skip the whole digital phase while doing sample
} inspection. Like to
} keep the entire endevor under $3K.
}
} Thanks
}
} Ric
}
}


From daemon Mon Jul 10 15:01:24 2000



From: David Cugier :      david.cugier-at-abbott.com
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:54:06 -0500
Subject: NIST traceable TEM magnification standards.

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I am currently searching for a NIST traceable TEM mag. standard. The reason
for a NIST traceable standard is that our EM facility is in transition to
becoming GMP regulated. I have used the waffle grating replica and catalase
crystals in the past and prefer this type of standard but they are not NIST
traceable. I am aware that NIST offers polystyrene nanosphere particles for
sizing but was hoping to avoid using because of the difficulty in producing a
uniform monolayer without aggregate particles. I am also aware that there is
a product called MAGICAL and am still waiting from a response from NIST as to
whether or not it is traceable. Does anyone know of any 3mm prepared grid
for use as a TEM mag std traceable to NIST. I am performing magnification
checks from 1,000X through 200,000X. Any info would be much appreciated.


David Cugier
Assistant Scientist
Microscopy and Microanalysis
Abbott Laboratories
Abbott Park, Illinois 60064
847-938-6725


From daemon Mon Jul 10 17:06:28 2000



From: John Foust :      jfoust-at-threedee.com
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:42:53 -0500
Subject: Zeiss OPMI-1 available

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I have a Zeiss OPMI-1 binocular microscope. I got it as part of an
auction lot. I believe it was used by the ENT department of a medical
school.

If it can be restored to working condition, that would be great.
If not, I'd be glad to sell it.

I don't know what it's worth, or really what it needs to be restored
to working order. If it were pristine and on a stand, that would be
another matter, it's clear. On the other hand, I don't know
exactly which model it is.

I have several images of it at http://www.threedee.com/sales/zeiss.html .
Any assistance would be appreciated!

- John



From daemon Mon Jul 10 17:43:16 2000



From: Walck, Scott D. :      walck-at-ppg.com
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:29:10 -0400
Subject: RE: NIST traceable TEM magnification standards.

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I do not know what GMP certification, but our lab is QS9000 certified. That
is the automotive ISO9001 equivalent. I use the Mag-i-cal sample since all
lengths of the sample were traceable to lattice spacings of the Si crystal.
John McCaffrey has a letter from NIST, a copy of which that can accompany
the Mag-i-cal sample, that states that they do not currently have a standard
for calibrating TEMs nor do they have a calibration for the crystalline
lattice spacings of Si. They state that the crystalline lattice is an
intrinsic property of a material, well characterized, well documented in the
literature, and known to 6 decimal places. I have placed this letter in my
calibration standards file along with the certification that comes with it.
If the GMP is anything like ISO or Qs certification, what is important is it
is that you have the paper work and procedures documented and that you
follow them.

This should be close enough for government work.


-Scott

Scott D. Walck, Ph.D.
PPG Industries, Inc.
Glass Technology Center
Guys Run Rd. (packages)
P. O. Box 11472 (letters)
Pittsburgh, PA 15238-0472

Walck-at-PPG.com

(412) 820-8651 (office)
(412) 820-8161 (fax)



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} for a NIST traceable standard is that our EM facility is in
} transition to
} becoming GMP regulated. I have used the waffle grating
} replica and catalase
} crystals in the past and prefer this type of standard but
} they are not NIST
} traceable. I am aware that NIST offers polystyrene
} nanosphere particles for
} sizing but was hoping to avoid using because of the
} difficulty in producing a
} uniform monolayer without aggregate particles. I am also
} aware that there is
} a product called MAGICAL and am still waiting from a response
} from NIST as to
} whether or not it is traceable. Does anyone know of any 3mm
} prepared grid
} for use as a TEM mag std traceable to NIST. I am performing
} magnification
} checks from 1,000X through 200,000X. Any info would be much
} appreciated.
}
}
} David Cugier
} Assistant Scientist
} Microscopy and Microanalysis
} Abbott Laboratories
} Abbott Park, Illinois 60064
} 847-938-6725
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From daemon Tue Jul 11 10:06:35 2000



From: mtl :      mtl-at-njcc.com
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 10:57:01 -0400
Subject: Re: GMP vs ISO9000

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There is no GMP/GLP certification given by the FDA nor are there FDA certified
laboratories. There is only compliance and being subjected to an unannounced
FDA audit. Where the various ISO9000 standards are orientated towards
improvement of quality and yield, GMP is a different standard orientated
towards having the sample used in a legal trial. For example, a company may
tolerate 99% yield for economic reasons, however, how many babies on a
percentage basis is a doctor allowed to drop a year. Failure to comply with
ISO9000 may have some economic consequencies. Caught failing to comply with
GMP, the FDA will consider the medical device or drug adulterated until proven
otherwise.

J. Roy Nelson, Ph.D.
Material Testing Laboratory
mtl-at-njcc.com


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} I do not know what GMP certification, but our lab is QS9000 certified. That
} is the automotive ISO9001 equivalent. I use the Mag-i-cal sample since all
} lengths of the sample were traceable to lattice spacings of the Si crystal.
} John McCaffrey has a letter from NIST, a copy of which that can accompany
} the Mag-i-cal sample, that states that they do not currently have a standard
} for calibrating TEMs nor do they have a calibration for the crystalline
} lattice spacings of Si. They state that the crystalline lattice is an
} intrinsic property of a material, well characterized, well documented in the
} literature, and known to 6 decimal places. I have placed this letter in my
} calibration standards file along with the certification that comes with it.
} If the GMP is anything like ISO or Qs certification, what is important is it
} is that you have the paper work and procedures documented and that you
} follow them.
}
} This should be close enough for government work.
}
} -Scott
}
} Scott D. Walck, Ph.D.
} PPG Industries, Inc.
} Glass Technology Center
} Guys Run Rd. (packages)
} P. O. Box 11472 (letters)
} Pittsburgh, PA 15238-0472
}
} Walck-at-PPG.com
}
} (412) 820-8651 (office)
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} } standard. The reason
} } for a NIST traceable standard is that our EM facility is in
} } transition to
} } becoming GMP regulated. I have used the waffle grating
} } replica and catalase
} } crystals in the past and prefer this type of standard but
} } they are not NIST
} } traceable. I am aware that NIST offers polystyrene
} } nanosphere particles for
} } sizing but was hoping to avoid using because of the
} } difficulty in producing a
} } uniform monolayer without aggregate particles. I am also
} } aware that there is
} } a product called MAGICAL and am still waiting from a response
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} } whether or not it is traceable. Does anyone know of any 3mm
} } prepared grid
} } for use as a TEM mag std traceable to NIST. I am performing
} } magnification
} } checks from 1,000X through 200,000X. Any info would be much
} } appreciated.
} }
} }
} } David Cugier
} } Assistant Scientist
} } Microscopy and Microanalysis
} } Abbott Laboratories
} } Abbott Park, Illinois 60064
} } 847-938-6725
} }



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From: Mary Gail Engle :      mgengle-at-pop.uky.edu
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:03:35 -0400
Subject: flat embedding molds

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Do any of you have problems getting resin blocks to release from the flat,
blue embedding molds? We have used these for years with no trouble but the
newer molds don't let the blocks go after just a few embeddings. I have
had to cut them out with a razor blade which of course ruins the mold. Has
the formula for the molds changed or is it the resin? We use Spurr's and
Eponate 12 primarily.

Thank you,
Mary Gail Engle
Electron Microscopy & Imaging Facility
University of Kentucky Medical Center



From daemon Tue Jul 11 12:46:27 2000



From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:38:17 -0500
Subject: TEM calibration

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-- [ From: Garber, Charles A. * EMC.Ver #3.1 ] --

David Cugier wrote:
==============================================================
I am currently searching for a NIST traceable TEM mag. standard. The reason
for a NIST traceable standard is that our EM facility is in transition to
becoming GMP regulated. I have used the waffle grating replica and catalase
crystals in the past and prefer this type of standard but they are not NIST
traceable. I am aware that NIST offers polystyrene nanosphere particles for
sizing but was hoping to avoid using because of the difficulty in producing
a uniform monolayer without aggregate particles. I am also aware that there
is a product called MAGICAL and am still waiting from a response from NIST
as to whether or not it is traceable. Does anyone know of any 3mm prepared
grid for use as a TEM mag std traceable to NIST. I am performing
magnification checks from 1,000X through 200,000X. Any info would be much
appreciated.
===============================================================
This is a really tough question to answer. The Mag*I*Cal TEM calibration
standard comes "close" but "close" in this business is not quite enough.
But it might be the best there is. You can get information about the
Mag*I*Cal at URL
http://www.2spi.com/catalog/standards/magical.html

You are correct about the problems associated with using the polystryene
calibrated spheres.

It is sold by SPI Supplies as well as some of the other major suppliers of
accessories and consumables for EM laboratories.

Chuck

============================================

Charles A. Garber, Ph. D. Ph: 1-610-436-5400
President 1-800-2424-SPI
SPI SUPPLIES FAX: 1-610-436-5755
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West Chester, PA 19381-0656 USA
Cust.Service: spi2spi-at-2spi.com

Look for us!
########################
WWW: http://www.spi.cc
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============================================








From daemon Tue Jul 11 13:11:00 2000



From: Tom Phillips :      PhillipsT-at-missouri.edu
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 12:44:49 -0500
Subject: Re: flat embedding molds

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This exactly mirrors the problem I have noticed in the last couple of
years. My blue molds formerly lasted for years and now they
deteriorate rapidly. We use an epon 812 style embedding medium. I
have taken to spraying the molds with teflon spray (708 T.F.E. dry
lube - a lot cheaper from the local hardware store than from EM
supply houses!) and that seems to help without hurting morphology.
but i can't help but wonder what has changed in molds!






}
}
} Do any of you have problems getting resin blocks to release from the
} flat, blue embedding molds? We have used these for years with no
} trouble but the newer molds don't let the blocks go after just a few
} embeddings. I have had to cut them out with a razor blade which of
} course ruins the mold. Has the formula for the molds changed or is
} it the resin? We use Spurr's and Eponate 12 primarily.
}
} Thank you,
} Mary Gail Engle
} Electron Microscopy & Imaging Facility
} University of Kentucky Medical Center

Thomas E. Phillips, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Biological Sciences
Director, Molecular Cytology Core Facility

3 Tucker Hall
Division of Biological Sciences
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211-7400
(573)-882-4712 (voice)
(573)-882-0123 (fax)


From daemon Tue Jul 11 14:00:13 2000



From: McCaffrey, John :      John.McCaffrey-at-nrc.ca
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 14:48:44 -0400
Subject: TEM calibration

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Hi Chuck,

It might have been a bit more helpful if you had suggested that
users should contact NIST and request that they evaluate the MAG*I*CAL,
since the industry now requires a traceable standard.

Cheers
John


John P. McCaffrey, Ph.D.
National Research Council of Canada
M-50, Montreal Rd.
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A 0R6 CANADA

tel: +613-993-7823
fax: +613-990-0202
email: john.mccaffrey-at-nrc.ca


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} From: Garber, Charles A. [mailto:cgarber-at-2spi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 2:38 PM
To: MICROSCOPY BB


-- [ From: Garber, Charles A. * EMC.Ver #3.1 ] --

David Cugier wrote:
==============================================================
I am currently searching for a NIST traceable TEM mag. standard. The reason
for a NIST traceable standard is that our EM facility is in transition to
becoming GMP regulated. I have used the waffle grating replica and catalase
crystals in the past and prefer this type of standard but they are not NIST
traceable. I am aware that NIST offers polystyrene nanosphere particles for
sizing but was hoping to avoid using because of the difficulty in producing
a uniform monolayer without aggregate particles. I am also aware that there
is a product called MAGICAL and am still waiting from a response from NIST
as to whether or not it is traceable. Does anyone know of any 3mm prepared
grid for use as a TEM mag std traceable to NIST. I am performing
magnification checks from 1,000X through 200,000X. Any info would be much
appreciated.
===============================================================
This is a really tough question to answer. The Mag*I*Cal TEM calibration
standard comes "close" but "close" in this business is not quite enough.
But it might be the best there is. You can get information about the
Mag*I*Cal at URL
http://www.2spi.com/catalog/standards/magical.html

You are correct about the problems associated with using the polystryene
calibrated spheres.

It is sold by SPI Supplies as well as some of the other major suppliers of
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From daemon Tue Jul 11 16:23:12 2000



From: Michael Parrish :      t80mjp1-at-wpo.cso.niu.edu
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 15:50:28 -0500
Subject: Research Associate Position

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The Department of Biological Sciences at Northern Illinois University
has an immediate opening for a Research Associate in Confocal/Electron
Microscopy. Details are in the advertisement below.

Thanks

Michael Parrish, Professor and Chair
Biological Sciences
Northern Illinois University
DeKalb, IL 60115
815-753-1753

Research Associate:

The Department of Biological Sciences at Northern Illinois University
has an opening for a Research Associate with expertise in Confocal and
Electron Microscopy. The successful candidate will be expected to
operate our confocal, transmission and scanning electron microscopes and
to supervise both students and faculty in their use. Master's degree in
Biology or related field required including at least two years'
experience using confocal and electron microscopes in biological or
chemical research. Ideally, the successful candidate should be able to
calibrate and perform routine maintenance on the instruments. Submit
letter of interest, resume and three letters of recommendation to: Dr.
Michael Parrish, Chair, Department of Biological Sciences, Northern
Illinois University, DeKalb, IL 60115-2861; http:\\www.bios.niu.edu;
phone: 815-753-0461; email: biosjobs-at-niu.edu. Review of applications
will begin July 28, 2000 and continue until position is filled.


From daemon Tue Jul 11 16:47:25 2000



From: Dohnalkova, Alice :      Alice.Dohnalkova-at-pnl.gov
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 14:38:13 -0700
Subject: JEOL 2010 Cold Trap

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As a relative novice on JEOL 2010 TEM, I was recently advised to use a cold trap
in the specimen area. Since I know some people don't use it even though it's
mounted on their 'scope, I'd like to hear your opinion on when and how
frequently to use it. I understand it improves the vacuum significantly; is
there any drawback? Any guidelines or suggestions on the liquid N2 /heat-up
cycle? Thank you, Alice.

Alice Dohnalkova
Environmental Microbiology
Battelle, PNNL
Richland, WA
(509) 372-0692



From daemon Tue Jul 11 20:05:45 2000



From: Bruce Brinson :      brinson-at-cnst.rice.edu
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 19:59:31 -0500
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HI Alice,
Use the cold trap. Use the cold trap. Did I say use the cold trap? Jeol calls it
the anti contamination device (ACD). Your vacuum will be better, sample swap time
quicker, much quicker. The cold trap will pump (trap) most emissions from your
sample. This is a good thing. It keeps them from carbonizing on your apertures or
oxidizing the filament. Ever noticed really strange images of your filament that
eventually went away? Better vacuum will extend your filament life.
I find it hard to believe (I believe you) that users in your facility are not
using the ACD. I could rant on a bit longer....
There is one catch, a testament to it's pumping efficiency. When you are
finished, you must use the ADC heat cycle. The ACD will have accumulated so many
molecules that the ion pump can not handle the gas load if the ACD warms up on it's
own. The ACD heat cycle will switch the column over to the diffusion pump for a
period of time. In our lab, the last user signed up (weather or not they use the
TEM) is responsible for tending to the ACD.
In our lab, failure to use the ACD heat cycle is a high crime. It creates a
vacuum condition (in our 2010) that causes the gun isolation valve to cycle at ~0.5
Hz. This then causes the bellows to fail, typically in ~10,000 cycles (a long
weekend). The effect is cumulative.
So now that I said use it. how... fill the dewier, wait ~5min & top it off. Put
a foil cap or other loose fitting cap over the fill port. It should stay cold for 7
hours. That is the Spec. on our unit. It varies a bit with # of sample changes. I
have seen it cold 11 hours later. Don't ask how I know this :)

Bruce Brinson
Rice U.

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} frequently to use it. I understand it improves the vacuum significantly; is
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From daemon Wed Jul 12 01:27:57 2000



From: Ken Tiekotter :      tiekotte-at-up.edu
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 23:16:16 -0700 (PDT)
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Dear Alice,

I routinely use a combination of LN2 and ion getter pumps on my Zeiss EM
10. The scope is also kept running 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. This
combination has afforded me with extremely good vacuum, less downtime, and
an incredible life time on tungsten filaments. The filament I am currently
using has 430 hours: my record is 520 hours! This of course is also
relately to slow saturation and desaturation of the filament whenever I
turn off or on the high tension, completely outgassing of film after film
exchange and using the scope with liquid nitrogen.

The only disadvantage occurs when the LN2 is depleted and the cold finger
around the specimen starts to return to ambient temperature, i.e., there
is a substantial rise in vacuum pressure until the cold finger warms
up. The advantages I have experienced include long filament life, clean
high vacuum, and no contamination on the grid/specimen. I routinely use
the scope at magnifications from x1600 to x125,000 and have not notice
degradation of image quality, either from hydrocarbon contamination or an
aged filament.

I pay about $47.00 for 50 liters of LN2 every 5 to 7 weeks: worth every
cent!! One must however get into the habit of using filling the scope
dewar about 20 to 30 minutes before using the scope.

Sincerely,
Ken
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The University of Portland
Dept. of Biology
5000 N. Willamette Blvd.
Portland, OR 97203

Director, MicroImaging/Electron Micrscopy, G50
Legacy Holladay Park Medical Center
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Portland, OR 97232

TEL.: (503) 413-5391

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} frequently to use it. I understand it improves the vacuum significantly; is
} there any drawback? Any guidelines or suggestions on the liquid N2 /heat-up
} cycle? Thank you, Alice.
}
} Alice Dohnalkova
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}
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}



From daemon Wed Jul 12 02:27:42 2000



From: Dr Malcolm Roberts :      m.roberts-at-ru.ac.za
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:16:46 +0200
Subject: Ultra thin Moxtex windows

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Hallo Folks!
This is a reply to a previous posting of mine regarding a spurious B
peak in carbonate spectra plus another matter altogether. Firstly, for
Warren S's info, we have a refurbished Kevex detector with a Si (Li)
crystal and an ultra thin Moxtex window (3 microns) attached to our JEOL
733. The pulse processing electronics are 1976 vintage Kevex 4050 which
give us a pitiful ca. 1200 cps at 25% dead time. C peak occurs in the
correct place. To answer Brendan G., the oxygen peak is in the correct
place, and everything seems to be in order apart from the spurious peak.
Basically, the system is calibrated to give the correct things in the
correct place.
Now to another problem, and this has to do with the window itself.
We have been watching the Cu l:k alpha ratio deteriorate over time
since installation 4 months ago from acceptable values over 1 to an
alarming 0.44 (intergrated peak ratio specified within WinEDS software).
Micro droplets of oil are starting to appear on other wise clean
standards (although these are few and dispersed rather than a slick, and
I am not alarmed by this considering all other things. I'm actually
happy after 1.5 years to be able to analyse things!!), and I suspect
that the window is in need of a wash off. The company who outsourced the
refurbishment, chose the window, and installed the system have told me
that ultra-thin Moxtex windows cannot be cleaned. If this is true, then
we have been stitched up. Does anyone out there know anything about
these things? Some advice, as usual, very helpful to us L-drivers.
Cheers,
Malc.

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From daemon Wed Jul 12 02:49:36 2000



From: Ron Doole :      ron.doole-at-materials.oxford.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:40:58 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Re: JEOL 2010 Cold Trap

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Hi Alice,

Bruce has got it right - use the ACD and heat it up overnight. Any cold
trap will help remove hydrocarbons and water vapour from your
vacuum system.

A few of extra notes.
- Fill the trap as soon as you get to the instrument to get it cold. It
can be cooling down while you ramp up the HT and load a specimen.
- Beware that some dewars throw out a quantity of gas and sometimes liguid
N2 shortly after they have been filled from room temperature. Do not sit
under the dewar for 5 minutes after first filling.
- After you hit the ACD heat button the vacuum system locks up for about 2
hours while the ACD warms up and the trapped gasses are pumped away by the
diff pump. Remember to change films and specimen and let them pump down
properly before hitting the ACD button.

I am at a materials lab rather than a biological one, our users need the
2010 for small probe work and that shows up any contamination problem. A
routine of column bake out and use of the ACD means that I can be sure
that contamination problems come from their specimen.

Regards,
Ron

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} in the specimen area. Since I know some people don't use it even though it's
} mounted on their 'scope, I'd like to hear your opinion on when and how
} frequently to use it. I understand it improves the vacuum significantly; is
} there any drawback? Any guidelines or suggestions on the liquid N2 /heat-up
} cycle? Thank you, Alice.
}
} Alice Dohnalkova
} Environmental Microbiology
} Battelle, PNNL
} Richland, WA
} (509) 372-0692
}
}
}

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University of Oxford, fax +44 (0) 1865 283333
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From daemon Wed Jul 12 06:40:47 2000



From: Chris Jeffree :      cjeffree-at-srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:29:24 +0000
Subject: Cold traps and cold fingers in SEM

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While we are on a slight cold trap / ACD thread, I would greatly
appreciate your views about the desirability of using cold traps and
cold fingers in Field emission SEMs. Some manufacturers have
them, others don't and regard them as unnecessary. Some
manufacturers exchange specimens by opening the chamber to
air, others do it via airlocks. If one is aiming to maximise the
performance of a FESEM for low-kV and LTSEM imaging it would
seem to me to be desirable not to expose the specimen chamber
to atmospheric pressure during specimen changes, and to trap any
volatiles to reduce specimen contamination, just as we would
normally do in TEM practice. Do users of FESEMs find in practice
that there are specimen contamination issues which make the use
of cryo-trapping and airlocks desirable, or are these features
unnecessary?

Best wishes
Chris
=====================================================================
DR CHRIS JEFFREE
BIOSEM - BIOLOGICAL SCIENCES EM FACILITY
UNIVERSITY OF EDINBURGH
Daniel Rutherford Building
King's Buildings, Mayfield Road
EDINBURGH, EH9 3JH, Scotland, UK
Tel. #44 131 650 5345
FAX. #44 131 650 6563
Mobile 07710 585 401
email c.jeffree-at-ed.ac.uk
SEM / TEM bookings sem-at-ed.ac.uk
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From daemon Wed Jul 12 08:38:51 2000



From: Fred Pearson :      eoptics-at-mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:29:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Looking for Electopolishing recipe

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Good day to all:

I am sending this request for a researcher who is not a memeber of the
list so kindly respond to her (Aleksandra Perovic) directly at:

perovic-at-mcmaster.ca

We want to electropolish this alloy which contains the following phases.

1) Q phase: 30 wt% Mg
30 wt% Si
16 wt% Al
& 20 wt% Cu.

2) Theta phase: Al2Cu

3) Si:

4) Beta phase: Mg2Si

We have already tried ion milling and also electropolishing with 10%
perchloric/methanol, with no success.

If anyone has a recipe for such an alloy we would appreciate hearing
from you.

Thanks in advance


Fred

c/o Aleksandra Perovic

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Fred Pearson
Brockhouse Institute for Materials Research
McMaster University
1280 Main St. West
Hamilton, Ontario
Canada L8S 4M1


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From daemon Wed Jul 12 08:42:06 2000



From: Tindall, Randy D. :      TindallR-at-missouri.edu
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:31:04 -0500
Subject: Cold traps and cold fingers in SEM

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Chris,

We have an Hitachi S4700 FESEM, and we routinely use the LN2 coldfinger. In
my experience, it reduces deposition of contamination under the beam,
especially during low voltage operation (1-5kV, say).

The disadvantages so far have been vibration introduced by the boiling LN2,
although this pretty much disappears after about 20-30 minutes, and the
problem of retrieving a sample which has become dislodged inside the
chamber. Although the latter occurrence is rare, it obviously requires
opening up the entire chamber to atmosphere, which isn't a great thing to do
with a chilly cold finger combined with the humidity of mid-Missouri. In
this case, you need to wait until the system comes to room temperature,
effectively shutting down the scope for several hours.

Randy

Randy Tindall
EM Specialist
Electron Microscopy Core Facility
W122 Veterinary Medicine
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211
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-----Original Message-----
} From: Chris Jeffree [mailto:cjeffree-at-srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 7:29 AM
To: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


While we are on a slight cold trap / ACD thread, I would greatly
appreciate your views about the desirability of using cold traps and
cold fingers in Field emission SEMs. Some manufacturers have
them, others don't and regard them as unnecessary. Some
manufacturers exchange specimens by opening the chamber to
air, others do it via airlocks. If one is aiming to maximise the
performance of a FESEM for low-kV and LTSEM imaging it would
seem to me to be desirable not to expose the specimen chamber
to atmospheric pressure during specimen changes, and to trap any
volatiles to reduce specimen contamination, just as we would
normally do in TEM practice. Do users of FESEMs find in practice
that there are specimen contamination issues which make the use
of cryo-trapping and airlocks desirable, or are these features
unnecessary?

Best wishes
Chris
=====================================================================
DR CHRIS JEFFREE
BIOSEM - BIOLOGICAL SCIENCES EM FACILITY
UNIVERSITY OF EDINBURGH
Daniel Rutherford Building
King's Buildings, Mayfield Road
EDINBURGH, EH9 3JH, Scotland, UK
Tel. #44 131 650 5345
FAX. #44 131 650 6563
Mobile 07710 585 401
email c.jeffree-at-ed.ac.uk
SEM / TEM bookings sem-at-ed.ac.uk
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From daemon Wed Jul 12 08:49:31 2000



From: rlvaughn-at-unmc.edu
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:41:58 -0500
Subject: Re: flat embedding molds

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Dito here. The vendor asked if I was embedding at high temps but we use
araldite or 812 at 60 - 65 degree. We sometimes sprayed the molds with
high purity silicone which would extend the life after they started
sticking. The clear ones also got hard and opaque, along with ambrose
silicone molds.

Rick Vaughn



From daemon Wed Jul 12 09:24:16 2000



From: jim :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:20:46 +1000
Subject: want to know national permit requirements for Uranyl Acetate

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The Australian, and now the various State Governments require permits for the
import, storage and transshipping of UA (also a store and radiation safety
officer). We will in future drop-ship to the end user direct and therefore not
handle UA at all. The crazy rules are laid bare in page, which is linked from
our UA item online.

I would like to know from international subscribers (can be back-channel) of
any permits required to import or transship UA in other countries. I know that
UA can be shipped by normal air freight and through the Postal system anywhere.
The USA definition of a radioactive substance is 7x higher than the Australian
one. The new legislation will cost Australian labs a good deal of extra time
and money. It would be useful to protest to the various Health ministers, State
and Federal.

I would also like to know of any significant incident involving UA anywhere. I
should point out that radiation damage would not show for years and one would
never know the original cause. The radiation though is low, so unless a person
would take to sleeping with a jar of UA there is no real danger. The real
danger of UA is as a non-cumulative (happily), but severe kidney poison, but
this is of course no issue with the Radiation people.
Cheers
Jim Darley

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From daemon Wed Jul 12 10:37:29 2000



From: Drouillon, Philippe :      Philippe.Drouillon-at-solvay.com
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:24:04 +0200
Subject: HELP WANTED

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Hello,

The P2 projector lens of our TEM Siemens Elmiskop 101 is out of order.

We need to replace it as soon as possible.

Could anyone help us ?

Here are the features of our microscope :

Siemens Elmiskop 101 - Fabrication number : 2368
Serial number : M31191-A5
High voltage working between 40 and 100 kV - 60 µA

Thanks in advance for your help

Best regards

Philippe Drouillon
Solvay Research and Technology
Analytical Technologies Dpt
Electron Microscopy and Image Analysis Labs - IT coordinator of the Dpt
Rue de Ransbeek, 310
B-1120 Brussels (Belgium)
phone : (00 32) 2 264 24 47
mailto:philippe.drouillon-at-solvay.com


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} From: Bruce Brinson [SMTP:brinson-at-cnst.rice.edu]
} Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 3:00 AM
} To: Dohnalkova, Alice
} Cc: 'Microscopy-at-MSA.Microscopy.com'
} Subject: Re: JEOL 2010 Cold Trap
}
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} HI Alice,
} Use the cold trap. Use the cold trap. Did I say use the cold trap?
} Jeol calls it
} the anti contamination device (ACD). Your vacuum will be better, sample
} swap time
} quicker, much quicker. The cold trap will pump (trap) most emissions from
} your
} sample. This is a good thing. It keeps them from carbonizing on your
} apertures or
} oxidizing the filament. Ever noticed really strange images of your
} filament that
} eventually went away? Better vacuum will extend your filament life.
} I find it hard to believe (I believe you) that users in your facility
} are not
} using the ACD. I could rant on a bit longer....
} There is one catch, a testament to it's pumping efficiency. When you
} are
} finished, you must use the ADC heat cycle. The ACD will have accumulated
} so many
} molecules that the ion pump can not handle the gas load if the ACD warms
} up on it's
} own. The ACD heat cycle will switch the column over to the diffusion pump
} for a
} period of time. In our lab, the last user signed up (weather or not they
} use the
} TEM) is responsible for tending to the ACD.
} In our lab, failure to use the ACD heat cycle is a high crime. It
} creates a
} vacuum condition (in our 2010) that causes the gun isolation valve to
} cycle at ~0.5
} Hz. This then causes the bellows to fail, typically in ~10,000 cycles (a
} long
} weekend). The effect is cumulative.
} So now that I said use it. how... fill the dewier, wait ~5min & top
} it off. Put
} a foil cap or other loose fitting cap over the fill port. It should stay
} cold for 7
} hours. That is the Spec. on our unit. It varies a bit with # of sample
} changes. I
} have seen it cold 11 hours later. Don't ask how I know this :)
}
} Bruce Brinson
} Rice U.
}
} "Dohnalkova, Alice" wrote:
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} } in the specimen area. Since I know some people don't use it even though
} it's
} } mounted on their 'scope, I'd like to hear your opinion on when and how
} } frequently to use it. I understand it improves the vacuum
} significantly; is
} } there any drawback? Any guidelines or suggestions on the liquid N2
} /heat-up
} } cycle? Thank you, Alice.
} }
} } Alice Dohnalkova
} } Environmental Microbiology
} } Battelle, PNNL
} } Richland, WA
} } (509) 372-0692
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From daemon Wed Jul 12 11:07:11 2000



From: Bryan Tracy :      bryant-at-brahms.amd.com
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:56:35 -0700
Subject: Looking for TEM holder for a Topcon 002B

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Hello EM'ers,

We are very much interested to purchase an extra
Gatan Double Tilt holder for our Topcon 002B TEM.

We have the 1.9A polepiece (EM-P20).

If you have any leads, please contact me

Thanks so much for your help,


Bryan Tracy
Advanced Micro Devices, Sunnyvale, ca
bryant-at-brahms.amd.com
408-749-4819

Bryan Tracy
Materials Technology Development
Advanced Micro Devices
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Sunnyvale, Ca, 94088




From daemon Wed Jul 12 11:59:47 2000



From: Yan Xin :      xin-at-magnet.fsu.edu
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:49:50 -0400
Subject: JEOL 2010 Cold Trap

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It seems that it is a good idea to use a cold trap on JEOL 2010 TEM. But I
have a concern if anyone has any suggestions. We have a LaB6 JEOL
2010. Once the ACD is hit, the HT is automatically drops down to zero. So
for the next day, the HT has to be ramped up again. If we do like this,
the HT will have to be ramped up everyday, and I am wondering whether this
will do any harm in a long run.
Thanks.
Regards
Yan Xin


=======================================
Yan Xin
Magnet Science & Technology
National High Magnetic Field Laboratory
Florida State University
1800 E. Paul Dirac Drive
Tallahassee, FL 32310
Tel: (850) 644 1529
Fax: (850) 644 0867
========================================





From daemon Wed Jul 12 13:53:25 2000



From: Becky Holdford :      r-holdford-at-ti.com
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:50:12 -0500
Subject: Re: Cold traps and cold fingers in SEM

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Randy and Listies:
I too have an S4700 with a cold finger. But I don't have the time to let the
cold finger come to room temperature if I need to retrieve a dropped or stuck
sample. Plant A/C keeps the lab humidity below 60% and if I work fast, there is
minimal frost buildup. The main chamber is back under working vacuum in less
than 1 hour. The scope is equipped with a diffusion pump instead of a TMP. My
question: Am I causing any problems by letting the pump system sublime the
frost off the cold finger?

"Tindall, Randy D." wrote:

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} Chris,
}
} We have an Hitachi S4700 FESEM, and we routinely use the LN2 coldfinger. In
} my experience, it reduces deposition of contamination under the beam,
} especially during low voltage operation (1-5kV, say).
}
} The disadvantages so far have been vibration introduced by the boiling LN2,
} although this pretty much disappears after about 20-30 minutes, and the
} problem of retrieving a sample which has become dislodged inside the
} chamber. Although the latter occurrence is rare, it obviously requires
} opening up the entire chamber to atmosphere, which isn't a great thing to do
} with a chilly cold finger combined with the humidity of mid-Missouri. In
} this case, you need to wait until the system comes to room temperature,
} effectively shutting down the scope for several hours.
}
} Randy
}
} Randy Tindall
} EM Specialist
} Electron Microscopy Core Facility
} W122 Veterinary Medicine
} University of Missouri
} Columbia, MO 65211
} Tel: (573) 882-8304
} Fax: (573) 884-5414
} Email: tindallr-at-missouri.edu
} Web: http://www.biotech.missouri.edu/emc/
}

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KFAB Physical Analysis Lab--SEM/FIB/FA
Texas Instruments, Inc.
Dallas, TX
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From daemon Wed Jul 12 14:41:06 2000



From: Chuck Buiocchi :      buiocchi-at-astro.ocis.temple.edu
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:30:35 -0400
Subject: Electron Microscopes

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Hi All,
The Anatomy / Cell Biology Department of TEMPLE UNIVERSITY / MED SCHOOL,
has three (3) Electron Microscopes it would like to Donate to a good home,
for the cost of removing the item you would like. The three are as follows:

1. Philips 300 TEM.

2. JEOL 100B TEM.

3. ETEC CORP. AUTOSCAN SEM.

If you have a need for one or all three microscopes, Please contact
Dr. Joanne Orth by E-mail (ASAP) -at- "orthjo-at-astro.temple.edu".
The Philips and ETEC were working well a couple of years ago, I have no
knowledge of the JEOL.

Thank You,
Chuck Buiocchi, Lab Mgr., Anatomy/Cell Biology



From daemon Wed Jul 12 18:27:19 2000



From: Don Chernoff at ASM :      donc-at-asmicro.com
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:16:39 -0500
Subject: MSA meeting: Caution about online Registration

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Microscopy and Microanalysis 2000 is August 13-17 in Philadelphia.
Today I received an email reminder to register:
} Register at www.peregrine.net/mm2000
When I went to this site, the URL prefix was http:, not https:
The latter would indicate a secure server.
The text of the web page claimed that it is secure, but Netscape warned that
it is not.
Since this site is not secure, despite its claim, I did not submit my credit
card information online.
I advise other registrants to be cautious also.

Don Chernoff

} Questions? Please refer to the MSA web site at
} www.msa.microscopy.com
} or contact Meeting Management at (708) 361-6045.


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Please use the new web and email addresses shown above.
(February 1999)


From daemon Wed Jul 12 22:04:44 2000



From: Ronald Vane :      RVaneXEI-at-concentric.net
Date: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 5:58 AM
Subject: Cold traps and cold fingers in SEM

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Here are my observations about cold fingers and cold traps in SEMs. They do
a good job of fighting contamination but they do have the vibration and
frosting problems noted by others. They require constant refilling to keep
them cold. When they warm up the water and oil they collect mostly
redistributes to the walls of the chamber and is not pumped away. After
using a cold finger cold, the warm cold finger is a major source of
contamination.

If a cold finger is frosted during opening a door for dislodging a sample,
then pumping the frost should not overburden the vacuum pumps if done
occasionally. They are designed to handle the water vapor in the atmosphere.
Excessive water vapor pumping may condense water in rotary pump oil. More
frequent oil changes are recommended if water vapor is pumped regularly.

I believe that some manufacturers claim cold traps are not needed because of
cost and competitive issues. They are selling the merits of their dry
pumping systems. However the vacuum system is not the only oil source for
contamination. The specimens themselves unless they are freshly cleaned will
carry a hydrocarbon scum into the chamber. Cold traps are effective for this
problem even on dry pumped systems. Contamination is always observed even in
the cleanest, dry-pumped SEM if long scans are used. Cold traps and cold
fingers are some of the tools available to control the problem.

Notice: XEI Scientific makes anti-contamination systems for SEMs but not
cold traps or cold fingers. See www.SEMCLEAN.com for information.

Ronald Vane
XEI Scientific
650-369-0133




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From daemon Thu Jul 13 00:01:31 2000



From: jim :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:26:16 +1000
Subject: RE: Cold traps and cold fingers in SEM

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Not a good idea to have the pumps loaded up with so much water. It does not
take long to warm the cold finger: A beaker with boiling water on the external
finger will rise the internals of the trap within 5 minutes to above room
temperature.
Cheers
Jim Darley
ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS
PO Box 111, Thuringowa QLD 4817 Australia
Ph +61 7 4774 0370 Fax:+61 7 4789 2313 service-at-proscitech.com
Great microscopy catalogue, 500 Links, MSDS, User Notes
ABN: 99 724 136 560 www.proscitech.com

On Thursday, July 13, 2000 4:50 AM, Becky Holdford [SMTP:r-holdford-at-ti.com]
wrote:
}
}
} Randy and Listies:
} I too have an S4700 with a cold finger. But I don't have the time to let the
} cold finger come to room temperature if I need to retrieve a dropped or stuck
} sample. Plant A/C keeps the lab humidity below 60% and if I work fast, there
} is
} minimal frost buildup. The main chamber is back under working vacuum in less
} than 1 hour. The scope is equipped with a diffusion pump instead of a TMP.
} My
} question: Am I causing any problems by letting the pump system sublime the
} frost off the cold finger?
}
} "Tindall, Randy D." wrote:
}
}
} }
} } Chris,
} }
} } We have an Hitachi S4700 FESEM, and we routinely use the LN2 coldfinger.
} } In
} } my experience, it reduces deposition of contamination under the beam,
} } especially during low voltage operation (1-5kV, say).
} }
} } The disadvantages so far have been vibration introduced by the boiling LN2,
} } although this pretty much disappears after about 20-30 minutes, and the
} } problem of retrieving a sample which has become dislodged inside the
} } chamber. Although the latter occurrence is rare, it obviously requires
} } opening up the entire chamber to atmosphere, which isn't a great thing to
} } do
} } with a chilly cold finger combined with the humidity of mid-Missouri. In
} } this case, you need to wait until the system comes to room temperature,
} } effectively shutting down the scope for several hours.
} }
} } Randy
} }
} } Randy Tindall
} } EM Specialist
} } Electron Microscopy Core Facility
} } W122 Veterinary Medicine
} } University of Missouri
} } Columbia, MO 65211
} } Tel: (573) 882-8304
} } Fax: (573) 884-5414
} } Email: tindallr-at-missouri.edu
} } Web: http://www.biotech.missouri.edu/emc/
} }
}
} --
} ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
} Becky Holdford (r-holdford-at-ti.com)
} 972-598-1291 (pager)
} KFAB Physical Analysis Lab--SEM/FIB/FA
} Texas Instruments, Inc.
} Dallas, TX
} ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
}
}



From daemon Thu Jul 13 00:26:01 2000



From: Harold A. Brink :      hbrink-at-gatan.com
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:14:42 -0700
Subject: TEM Job opening at Gatan Inc.

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Job opening at Gatan Inc.:

Systems Engineer, Analytical TEM


Gatan’s Inc. is currently looking for an enthusiastic and highly organized
person to help maintain and develop our line of state-of-the-art Analytical
TEM products.

In this position you will be responsible for maintaining and further
improving the overall, system level, performance of our existing TEM
instrumentation. You will work extensively with our mechanical, electrical
and software engineering groups, as well as our manufacturing and service
departments. Experience in these fields, and strong communication skills,
are therefore a must.

This is a key position within our organization and will involve some
national and international travel. You will be based in Pleasanton,
California. Practical TEM experience will be considered as a strong plus.

Gatan offers an exciting, high technology environment within a small, but
growing organization.

Interested parties, please submit your resume and salary requirements to
Harold A. Brink at hbrink-at-gatan.com.



From daemon Thu Jul 13 04:04:33 2000



From: richard.beanland-at-gecm.com
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:28:26 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Surface Science Journal - being thrown away

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True. So this could be an argument for using turbomolecular
pumps, which are tolerant of water vapour. Is it advisable to subject
the cold finger dewar to thermal shock by putting boiling water into
it?
Chris

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Dear all,
I have a set of the Journal 'Surface Science' and 'Surface Science reports', 1990-1993 (inclusive). If anyone wants it, please get in touch with me by 20th of this month or it will go in the skip.

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Richard Beanland

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From daemon Thu Jul 13 06:49:18 2000



From: Marti, Jordi :      jordi.marti-at-honeywell.com
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:38:46 -0700
Subject: EBSD ?

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Could somebody briefly educate me on EBSD (Electron Backscattered ...?) . I
am trying to find information for a friend. He would like to know the very
basics, capabilities of the technique (for example, resolution) and if there
are contract labs that do this. Since he is interested in quantitative
texture analysis, crystal orientation and GB analysis I assume that he is
talking about getting and analyzing channeling patterns, but I could be
wrong. I did not get from him what materials he is interested in. So, any
information on EBSD would be appreciated.

Thanks

Jordi Marti
Honeywell


From daemon Thu Jul 13 07:17:32 2000



From: jim :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 22:02:14 +1000
Subject: RE: Cold traps and cold fingers in SEM

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That is why I wrote "beaker" taking that little dewar from -180 to +100 could
have a shattering result. Would be nice to have a spare for that purpose.
Another point to be made: close of the high vacuum system when heating the cold
finger, why get the rubbish of the cold finger into your pump, especially if
its an ion getter type.
Cheers
Jim Darley
ProSciTech

On Thursday, July 13, 2000 7:48 PM, Chris Jeffree
[SMTP:cjeffree-at-srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk] wrote:
} True. So this could be an argument for using turbomolecular
} pumps, which are tolerant of water vapour. Is it advisable to subject
} the cold finger dewar to thermal shock by putting boiling water into
} it?
} Chris
}
} From: jim {jim-at-proscitech.com.au}
} Send reply to: "jim-at-proscitech.com.au" {jim-at-proscitech.com.au}
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} } Not a good idea to have the pumps loaded up with so much water. It does not
} }
} } take long to warm the cold finger: A beaker with boiling water on the
} } external
} } finger will rise the internals of the trap within 5 minutes to above room
} } temperature.
} } Cheers
} } Jim Darley
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} } Ph +61 7 4774 0370 Fax:+61 7 4789 2313 service-at-proscitech.com
} } Great microscopy catalogue, 500 Links, MSDS, User Notes
} } ABN: 99 724 136 560 www.proscitech.com
} }
} } On Thursday, July 13, 2000 4:50 AM, Becky Holdford [SMTP:r-holdford-at-ti.com]
} }
} } wrote:
} } }
} } }
} } } Randy and Listies:
} } } I too have an S4700 with a cold finger. But I don't have the time to let
} } } the
} } } cold finger come to room temperature if I need to retrieve a dropped or
} } } stuck
} } } sample. Plant A/C keeps the lab humidity below 60% and if I work fast,
} } } there
} } } is
} } } minimal frost buildup. The main chamber is back under working vacuum in
} } } less
} } } than 1 hour. The scope is equipped with a diffusion pump instead of a
} } } TMP.
} } } My
} } } question: Am I causing any problems by letting the pump system sublime
} } } the
} } } frost off the cold finger?
} } }
} } } "Tindall, Randy D." wrote:
} } }
} } }
} } } }
} } } } Chris,
} } } }
} } } } We have an Hitachi S4700 FESEM, and we routinely use the LN2
coldfinger.
} } } }
} } } } In
} } } } my experience, it reduces deposition of contamination under the beam,
} } } } especially during low voltage operation (1-5kV, say).
} } } }
} } } } The disadvantages so far have been vibration introduced by the boiling
} } } } LN2,
} } } } although this pretty much disappears after about 20-30 minutes, and the
} } } } problem of retrieving a sample which has become dislodged inside the
} } } } chamber. Although the latter occurrence is rare, it obviously requires
} } } } opening up the entire chamber to atmosphere, which isn't a great thing
} } } } to
} } } } do
} } } } with a chilly cold finger combined with the humidity of mid-Missouri.
} } } } In
} } } } this case, you need to wait until the system comes to room temperature,
} } } } effectively shutting down the scope for several hours.
} } } }
} } } } Randy
} } } }
} } } } Randy Tindall
} } } } EM Specialist
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} } } } W122 Veterinary Medicine
} } } } University of Missouri
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} } } } Fax: (573) 884-5414
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} } } }
} } }
} } } --
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} } } 972-598-1291 (pager)
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From daemon Thu Jul 13 08:00:25 2000



From: John Heckman :      heckman-at-pilot.msu.edu
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 08:52:50 -0700
Subject: Re: EBSD ?

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Hi Jordi,

Electron BackScatter Diffraction. There's a recent overview and application
articles in Journal of Microscopy 195 (3), 170-185 (September, 1999) also
quite a bit of info at http://www.hkltechnology.com. These folks make hardware
and software for this.

cheers,
John

no commercial interest, just a student

"Marti, Jordi" wrote:

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} Could somebody briefly educate me on EBSD (Electron Backscattered ...?) . I
} am trying to find information for a friend. He would like to know the very
} basics, capabilities of the technique (for example, resolution) and if there
} are contract labs that do this. Since he is interested in quantitative
} texture analysis, crystal orientation and GB analysis I assume that he is
} talking about getting and analyzing channeling patterns, but I could be
} wrong. I did not get from him what materials he is interested in. So, any
} information on EBSD would be appreciated.
}
} Thanks
}
} Jordi Marti
} Honeywell



From daemon Thu Jul 13 08:23:11 2000



From: Andreas Loewe :      loewe-at-uni-bonn.de
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 08:11:40 -0500
Subject: What you really should do with L2N

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Hello,

I will add my two cents to the L2N discussion:

Some years ago I stumbled over an article in the German issue of
"Scientific American". I think it was Peter Barham, who wrote about things
you can do with physics in the kitchen.
So we tried to make ice with LN2 and the result was just wonderful. And you
have a nice visual effect and your coworkers will praise you ...

Here is the howto for a small department:



We found strawberry ice the best
- take 2 kilos of strawberries, clean them and mash them
- take at least 1/2 kilo of sugar
- 2 liters of milk
- 1/2 liter of sweet cream
- add vanilla sugar and skin of a lemon

- precool it in the fridge
- fill all the ingredients into a metal bowl, plastic will crack, use gloves
- add the LN2, you may need about the same amount as the ingredients
- mix and mix and mix ...
- important: you have to stir like an idiot to get small ice crystals

- bon appetite




Andreas Loewe


Ps: You'll find more about this in a book by:
Herve This-Benckhard, "Les secrets de la casserole", Springer, 1993


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University of Bonn Fax : (+49-228)-73-4205
Roemerstr. 164
53117 Bonn
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From daemon Thu Jul 13 08:23:28 2000



From: Margaret Miller :      miller-at-pathology.v20.uthscsa.edu
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 08:12:14 -0500
Subject: Clinical performance standard

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Does anyone have information regarding performance standards for
clinical technicians. ie. How many cases per month per technician?
Thanks for any feedback.




From daemon Thu Jul 13 12:19:28 2000



From: Wayne England :      wengland-at-ortech.on.ca
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 13:00:41 -0400
Subject: SEM Position Opening - Toronto

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Bodycote Material Testing is a multidisciplinary contract research
organization serving a diverse range of industries and clients. Our
services include both routine testing as well as development/trouble
shooting.

We currently have a position for a scanning electron microscopist in our
Mississsauga location.

You will take a key role in the investigation of the physical properties of
both unknown and new material entities including. You will help clients to
problem solve and define their physical characterization needs, interpret
results, prepare quotations and write project reports.

Your practical expertise lies in scanning electron microscopy and energy
dispersive X-ray spectroscopy and includes experience in a materials
investigation. You enjoy problem solving and research activities, manage
your time well and are able to work effectively in a team atmosphere.
Additional experience with cryo-SEM, TEM, LM and associated characterization
techniques would be definite assets. A good business sense and working
knowledge of cGMP are also desirable.


Interested parties please submit your CV and salary requirements to Wayne
England.


__________________________________________

Wayne England
Manager, Physical Characterization
Bodycote Ortech
ph:(905)822-4111 X555 fax: (905)823-1446
http://www.na.bodycote-mt.com
mailto:england.w-at-bodycote-mt.com
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From daemon Thu Jul 13 14:05:38 2000



From: David Cugier :      david.cugier-at-abbott.com
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 13:55:04 -0500
Subject: Many Thanks to the NIST traceable TEM mag std. responses

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I appreciate all the responses to the question I had regarding NIST traceable
TEM mag. stds.
Thank you so much,
David Cugier
Abbott Laboratories.


From daemon Thu Jul 13 14:49:32 2000



From: Tom Phillips :      PhillipsT-at-missouri.edu
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 14:39:47 -0500
Subject: DiI or DiO labeling of membranes on cryosections??

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does anyone know if probes such as DiI or DiO have ever been used to
label membranes on sectioned material such as cryosections?

TIA, Tom

Thomas E. Phillips, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Biological Sciences
Director, Molecular Cytology Core Facility

3 Tucker Hall
Division of Biological Sciences
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211-7400
(573)-882-4712 (voice)
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From daemon Thu Jul 13 17:27:07 2000



From: Mary Mager :      mager-at-interchange.ubc.ca
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:11:51 -0700
Subject: Re: EBSD ?

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Dear Jordi,
We have a EBSD system installed here. It is an SEM accessory that picks up
the Kikuchi lines that scatter off a flat crystalline surface. It is the
same as electron channeling, but picked up from the side by a TV camera. The
sample must be strain-free (eg. electropolished) and tilted 70 degrees
towards the fluorescent screen that shows the lines. A TV camera behind the
screen picks up the lines, enhances and analyses them as the beam is steered
across the sample, usually in a square raster at about 0.5 sec. per point.
This data can be analysed and displayed a number of ways, such as grain
maps, grain boundary maps, histograms of the various parameters, pole
figures and many other forms. The HKL web site (www.hkltechnology.com) has a
good overview and articles about the use of EBSP, also Oxford, who make a
system called Opal, have a promotional CD that covers the technique well.
You can request it from Oxford.
The resolution depends on the SEM, but you need a high beam current and
voltage to generate strong enough lines for the pickup system, so with the
high tilt the resolution is about one micron with my W filament SEM. Field
emmision SEMs will have higher resolution. The samples on my SEM have to be
quite small and thin ( {8 mm.), but we have successfully analysed IF steels,
various Al alloys and some minerals. These are well polished with colloidal
silica and lightly carbon coated.
Please contact me if you need any more information.
At 04:38 AM 7/13/00 -0700, you wrote:

} Could somebody briefly educate me on EBSD (Electron Backscattered ...?) . I
} am trying to find information for a friend. He would like to know the very
} basics, capabilities of the technique (for example, resolution) and if there
} are contract labs that do this. Since he is interested in quantitative
} texture analysis, crystal orientation and GB analysis I assume that he is
} talking about getting and analyzing channeling patterns, but I could be
} wrong. I did not get from him what materials he is interested in. So, any
} information on EBSD would be appreciated.
}
} Thanks
}
} Jordi Marti
} Honeywell
}
Regards,
Mary

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From daemon Thu Jul 13 17:46:36 2000



From: Walck, Scott D. :      walck-at-ppg.com
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 18:36:30 -0400
Subject: RE: EBSD ?

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EBSD is very much like the production of Kikuchi lines in the TEM. The
backscatter electrons while they are still inside the sample act as point
sources that are attached to the sample. A fraction of them can diffract
off the "front" and "back" side of crystal planes as they come out of the
crystal. You get cones of diffraction intensity where the Bragg condition
for a given crystallographic plane. The pattern is a fairly week signal on
the total backscattered intensity and it carries the crystallographic
symmetry and orientation of the illuminated volume. The sample is typically
tilted to a high angle ~70 degrees. A piece of film or camera is used to
capture the image. The cameras are better, because they can process the
image to bring out the details and the analysis automated to determine phase
or crystallographic orientation. There are mapping programs that can give
you orientational maps of the grain structure of your samples. The
resolution is essentially the same as that of a backscattered image.
Anything at the surface that distorts or disturbs the quality of the lattice
(contamination, oxidation, damage, etc.) will be reflected in the quality of
the pattern.

Incidentally, you should take a look at the M&M MM program. Joe Michael has
a special session on "Advances in the Instrumentation and Applications of
Electron Backscatter Diffraction in the SEM" that should be of interest to
you. There are also a number of vendors who have systems. You can see them
at the meeting.


-Scott

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} resolution) and if there
} are contract labs that do this. Since he is interested in quantitative
} texture analysis, crystal orientation and GB analysis I
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} I could be
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} in. So, any
} information on EBSD would be appreciated.
}
} Thanks
}
} Jordi Marti
} Honeywell
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From daemon Thu Jul 13 21:14:45 2000



From: Rick Powell at Nanoprobes :      rpowell-at-nanoprobes.com
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 22:00:43 -0500
Subject: TEM: Thanks...Mercury diffusion pump conversion, Phillips 300

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Hello List Members:

Thanks for the suggestions on vendors and chillers - they were all very
helpful, and I will follow up individually. Now, we are faced with the
issue of whether we should convert the mercury diffusion pump in our
proposed Phillips 300 TEM (it stilll has the mercury pump). If anyone has
any opinions or experiences on this that they would like to share, I would
be very grateful.

Thanks again,

Rick Powell
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From daemon Fri Jul 14 03:00:31 2000



From: richard.beanland-at-gecm.com
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 08:50:14 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Surface Science Journals saved from the skip

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Ron
Thanks for this - I clearly need some retraining on high vacuum
theory! Can you recommend a good review or textbook on this topic
that a biologist could understand?
Best wishes
Chris

} From: "Ronald Vane" {RVaneXEI-at-concentric.net}
To: {c.jeffree-at-ed.ac.uk}


Dear All,
after receiving my 6th email this afternoon about the surface science journals, I'd like to say they have already found a good home with Rik Brydson in Leeds. Glad to see there is such a thirst for knowledge out there...

Richard


} Dear all,
} I have a set of the Journal 'Surface Science' and 'Surface
} Science reports', 1990-1993 (inclusive). If anyone wants it, please
} get
} in touch with me by 20th of this month or it will go in the skip.
}
} Best regards,
}
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From daemon Fri Jul 14 03:02:56 2000



From: Steve Chapman :      PROTRAIN-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 03:49:46 -0400
Subject: Cold Fingers

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Hi

I have been watching with interest the talk about warming up a cold finger
and what comes to mind is WHY?

Having used cold traps and fingers on vacuum systems as well as a wide
variety of microscopes for many years, and never force warmed them, why
suddenly is this important?

A paper by Hitachi in the 60's related cold finger temperature to vacuum
level and contamination rate. The theory went that the vacuum level and
contamination rate would fall whilst you were using liquid nitrogen in the
traps, but once you stopped using LN2 it would take the same amount of time
for the vacuum level and contamination rate to fall back to the original
levels. So why heat the cold finger?

I also worked on the design of early SEM cryo systems where once again we
do not heat the cold finger; I keep asking why?

Is there a proven scientific reason that helps us out in this area,
practical reason I emphasize?

I do find it rather interesting!

Steve Chapman
Senior Consultant Protrain
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From daemon Fri Jul 14 04:04:05 2000



From: Ron Doole :      ron.doole-at-materials.oxford.ac.uk
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 09:51:51 +0100 (BST)
Subject: 2010 HT and cold traps

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Hi All,

There have been several messages on these topics lately. The
original message was specifically a TEM cold trap question but it has
broadened out to SEM cold traps as well.

In answer to Yan's question;
JEOL 2010 ACD. We have a JEOL 2010 and as I have previously reported
we bake it out overnight. We always shut the HT down at the end of every
day and restart it the following one. We have always done this on every
instrument we have had. Over the past few years the instruments have
become cleaner and higher performance, we leave our 2010 with the lenses
set at the 200kV setting and at high (300K - 500K) mag. We do the same
with our 4000 HREM and 3000F (but we leave the HT on as it is a FEG). This
routine keeps the lenses warm so that they are stable when we want to use
them and do not outgas when they increase temperature with higher lens
currents.

Operation of cold traps.
I would never think of venting a column (or SEM chamber) when the cold
trap is cold. Although I am primarily interested in TEM the same
principles must apply to a SEM. If you need to vent the chamber to insert
a specimen then obviously this may affect your use of cold traps. Cold
surfaces trap gasses, they do this by lowering the vapour pressure. If you
have ice build up on a surface it will be more difficult to pump than a
clean surface, you will have a build up of gasses already on the surface
that will not only outgas for a long time but also decrease it's
efficiency as a cold trap.

It is recognised that to get a good clean vacuum we must bakeout the
vacuum system to increase the vapour pressure of the trapped
(absorbed) gasses in the surfaces and pump them away. When the surfaces
are then cooled down to room temperature the vapour pressure of any
trapped gasses is lower than the vacuum system pressure so the gasses are
firmly trapped. If we have gasses already trapped on a cold surface they
will be released into the vacuum system (albeit at a reducing rate) all
the time that system is pumping. This will give rise to contamination
during the operation of the instrument which can only be cured by raising
the temperture of the cold trap and cooling it down again.

Regards,
Ron


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From daemon Fri Jul 14 04:33:47 2000



From: Jonathan Barnard :      Jonathan.Barnard-at-angstrom.uu.se
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 11:06:50 +0200
Subject: SEM:EBSD & Kossel

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Jordi,

There are two techniques associated with looking at the angular
distribution of emerging radiations from a crystal.

Firstly there is Kossel diffraction, which is demanding experimentally.
This requires a material with one dominant atomic element and what is
looked at here is the angular distribution of emerging X-rays generated
within the excitation volume. Kossel diffraction can be extremely accurate
for lattice parameter measurements (I have heard of up to five/six
significant figures in accuracy in certain cases).

Then there is EBSD in which inelastic back scattered electrons follow the
crystallographic planes a la Kikuchi in the TEM. A scintillator with a high
angular solid angle is used to capture the diffraction pattern. EBSD maps
requires a scan over an area with a high pixel dwell time, from minutes to
hours for a whole map. The technique requires a lot of memory since it
records a pattern for point over pre-determined area. The computer usually
fits a pre set range of materials of any crystallographic space group i.e.
it helps if you know what you have in the first place. The pattern
recognition works by an algorithm called a Hough transform, in which the
intensity at every point is turned into a pair of angular coordinates.
Lines of intensity show up a bright dots in Hough-space and the computer
fits the different crystal types to this pattern. Once the whole area is
done, it then gives you a scatter plot of all the crystal orientations. The
better systems will allow you to do statistical analysis like correlation
functions .etc.

A flat sample is quite a stringent condition and the seventy degree surface
normal to beam angle means you get BS SEM resolution only parallel to this
tilt axis i.e. side to side. Spatial resolution is limited in the other
direction to around 1 micron in real terms. If you are trying to map micro
precipitates less than a micron, then forget it. So the ideal sample has to
be flat and have grains in excess of one micron in size.

As for systems on the market, the ones I have seen are TEXSEM and the
Oxford Instruments systems. As far as I am aware, TEXSEM was the first
commercial company to do EBSD mapping in the beginning and the others have
come after them. TEXSEM was acquired by Edax a couple of years ago, but I
am sure Edax can give you information on the EBSD system and maybe their
new TEM crystallography mapping system as well. I know the TEXSEM system
through Prof David Dingley one the founders on TEXSEM, and also the one who
taught me most about SEM techniques when I was at Bristol. I don't know if
he is on this listserver, but he's the one person who can tell you anything
and everything about EBSD.

Regards,
Jonathan
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From daemon Fri Jul 14 05:09:07 2000



From: Andrew Logan :      andrewlogan-at-paradise.net.nz
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 21:51:49 -0700
Subject: LM : Russian Microscopes

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I am hoping to upgrade to a better microscope but have a limited budget. I
have seen Russian LOMO microscopes advertised on the web. Does anyone have
experience with these that they can share - in particular are their
objectives up to scratch?
Thanks
Andrew Logan





From daemon Fri Jul 14 06:31:05 2000



From: Chris Jeffree :      cjeffree-at-srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 12:12:09 +0000
Subject: Specimen and chamber contamination

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1) I presume that just as at atmospheric pressure, materials such
as perspex, anodised aluminium, borosilicate glass, stainless
steel, gold) differ significantly in their capacity to adsorb water
vapour and hydrocarbons under high vacuum conditions?
Presumably they would differ not only in their uptake kinetics but
also in their desorption kinetics. If one were designing an ultraclean
vacuum system, or an ultraclean specimen environment within a
specimen chamber, with the objective of minimising deposition to a
specimen surface during SEM examination, what materials would
be best to use for the chamber surfaces?
2) Presumably the main source of hydrocarbon contamination in an
SEM is oil vapour back-streaming from the the rotary and diffusion
pump. Turbo pumps, particularly maglev pumps, must reduce this
to very low levels while the pumps are running at full speed.
However, there must be considerable potential for back streaming
from the backing line during rough pumping from air and turbo run-
up after specimen changes. This again would seem to me to argue
in favour of a specimen air-locked system, so that the specimen
chamber is exposed to air and rough-pumping cycles as little as
practicable. Does anyone know of any data in the literature
comparing the magnitudes of contamination in systems using
different pumping and specimen exchange methods?
Chris
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From daemon Fri Jul 14 07:23:38 2000



From: Marti, Jordi :      jordi.marti-at-honeywell.com
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 05:09:06 -0700
Subject: Thanks-EBSD

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I want to thank every one who responded with information on EBSD

Thanks

Jordi Marti
Honeywell


From daemon Fri Jul 14 08:56:04 2000



From: HOWARD L. MULHERN :      mulhern-at-hub.tch.harvard.edu
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 09:44:38 -0400
Subject: Clinical Performance Standards

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Hello,

I'm not aware of a standard but at Childrens Hospital in Boston I
have processed from beginning to end about 350 EM clinical cases per
year for the past fifteen years. That is from embedding through
photography and printing with fifteen to thirty photographs per case.
The voluum of cases depends on several factors. The type of tissue,
the number of blocks per case, possible special techniques (ex. glycogen
stains), available equiptment ...tissue processors, knives, microtomes
etc. and of course the technologists ability. A number of labs that I
have visited require the technologist to limit their involvement to
embedding ,sectioning and printing the negatives. The EM lab from a
neighboring institution handles about 850 EM clinical cases, far
exceding what their technologist could handle and so they use their
residents to scope many of the cases. In my own situation I feel our
voluum is very high for one individual and the results are reflected in
my inability to get the cases out in a timely manner or take a vacation.
I have always felt that it was a waste of time for a resident/rotator
to come into the lab and scope cases without serious supervision. This
has limited our ability to handle more cases but common sense and
expierence has told me that someone who doesn't know the ultrastructural
pathology, the microscope and is not a technologist and who just comes
in the lab to take some photo's is using their time inneficiently.
After all, taking an electron micrograph is about communication. If the
technologist is capable and has the expierence to understand the
pathology, certainly not in making a diagnosis, but in presenting to the
pathologist a group of photo's that will stand out and either confirm or
alter a suspected diagnosis that certainly is communication and is an
efficient cost effective way of running the EM lab.
Performance standards? The very words sort of indicate to me that
all technologists and labs should be equal .
That would take the fun out.

Howard L.Mulhern
Childrens Hospital Dept. of Pathology
EM Facility
mulhern-at-hub.tch.harvard.edu




From daemon Fri Jul 14 09:07:00 2000



From: jim :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 23:57:54 +1000
Subject: RE: Cold Fingers

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'cause Hitachi were talking about the cold finger warming under operating
conditions. We were discussing opening the chamber when the finger is cold,
which would then load up with ice.
Also if warm, the roughing pump on immediate re-pumping would have a chance to
remove some contaminants from the "warm coldfinger"
Cheers
Jim Darley
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On Friday, July 14, 2000 5:50 PM, Steve Chapman [SMTP:PROTRAIN-at-CompuServe.COM]
wrote:
}
}
}
} Hi
}
} I have been watching with interest the talk about warming up a cold finger
} and what comes to mind is WHY?
}
} Having used cold traps and fingers on vacuum systems as well as a wide
} variety of microscopes for many years, and never force warmed them, why
} suddenly is this important?
}
} A paper by Hitachi in the 60's related cold finger temperature to vacuum
} level and contamination rate. The theory went that the vacuum level and
} contamination rate would fall whilst you were using liquid nitrogen in the
} traps, but once you stopped using LN2 it would take the same amount of time
} for the vacuum level and contamination rate to fall back to the original
} levels. So why heat the cold finger?
}
} I also worked on the design of early SEM cryo systems where once again we
} do not heat the cold finger; I keep asking why?
}
} Is there a proven scientific reason that helps us out in this area,
} practical reason I emphasize?
}
} I do find it rather interesting!
}
} Steve Chapman
} Senior Consultant Protrain
} For professional training and consultancy in EM world wide
} www.emcourses.com
} Tel +44 1280 814774 Fax +44 1280 914007



From daemon Fri Jul 14 09:10:19 2000



From: Valdes, Erica R Dr. SBCCOM :      erica.valdes-at-sbccom.apgea.army.mil
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 10:00:56 -0400
Subject: need fluorescent LM specimen prep protocol

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Can anyone on the list help here?
We need a protocol for preparation of specimens for a training exercise. We
will be doing an assay using Salmonella typhimurium positive control
(5x10EE9 cells/ml) and fluorescein-labeled affinity purified antibody to
Salmonella CSA-1 (0.5 mg/ml). We have protocols for rehydration/dilution of
the reagents and for preparing slides after doing the assay in
flasks/vials/plates, but what we would really prefer is something very
simple that can be done in-situ on the slide. My first question is if
anyone has or can provide a protocol for this and my second question is if
anyone can tell us what would be the best dilutions to use for this
exercise.

Thank-you in advance,

Erica Valdes
US Army Soldier Biological Chemical Command
Edgewood CB Center




From daemon Fri Jul 14 09:28:15 2000



From: Vitaly Feingold :      vitalylazar-at-worldnet.att.net
Date: Friday, July 14, 2000 12:22 AM
Subject: TEM: Thanks...Mercury diffusion pump conversion, Phillips 300

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Rick,

We offer the Philips EM300 vac. system upgrade, which includes conversion to
Hg-less pumping system. Philips Electron Optics (now part of FEI company)
was offering the same upgrades, they probably still do.

Benefits one may expect from the upgrade:

1. Vacuum system performance (reliability, pumping speed, etc.) - none.

2. Health hazard reduction for the lab personnel - almost none. The Mercury
is not in contact with the outside world, except for a few exotic accident
scenarios or when grossly mishandled.

3. Possible future repairs of the vacuum system - upgrade makes for a great
advantage, since one will not have to comply with numerous safety rules in
order to work with the system containing toxic substance.

4. Speaking of exotic accidents - the probability of such is low, yet is
greater than zero nonetheless. Room cleaning is costly and troublesome,
shall room become Hg contaminated. An upgrade makes for a great advantage
from this standpoint.

Vitaly Feingold
Scientific Instruments and Applications
2773 Heath Lane, Duluth GA 30096
(770)232-7785 ph.
(770)232-1791 fax
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From daemon Fri Jul 14 09:35:47 2000



From: Bruce Brinson :      brinson-at-cnst.rice.edu
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 09:29:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Cold Fingers

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Hello Steve,
This all started around the 2010. With our 2010, the ion pump cannot handle
the gas load while the ADC warms up on it's own. There is a regeneration cycle
that switches over to the DP but should a user fail to start that cycle.... it
goes like this... oh the current in the ion pump is too high, goto PD... the DP
can out pump the virtual leak (gas load from the ACD regeneration) & the
pressure drops. The system crosses over to the ion pump which can't handle the
gas load & the cycle repeats at ~0.5 Hz. Along with the switching of pumps the
gun isolation valve cycles. It has a bellows seal. Typical cycle life times of
a bellows is 10,000. They fail.
It is my opinion that this is a silly short coming of the system & could be
solved with a simple counting circuit... maybe a ring counter, one shot & an
AND GATE. Obviously a little programming could deal with this too. My
suggestions to the vender about this issue have not gotten a fix.... so every
couple of years we go down for a few days & they buy us a new valve... go
figure. BTW I think they now use an o-ring seal in a new valve design. I was
told it will not screw into the older machines.
For systems that are only pumped by a diffusion or turbo pump, I think this
is a non-issue & you can just walk away at the end of the day. This is true of
our FESEM.

Bruce Brinson
Rice U.

Steve Chapman wrote:

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} Hi
}
} I have been watching with interest the talk about warming up a cold finger
} and what comes to mind is WHY?
}
} Having used cold traps and fingers on vacuum systems as well as a wide
} variety of microscopes for many years, and never force warmed them, why
} suddenly is this important?
}
} A paper by Hitachi in the 60's related cold finger temperature to vacuum
} level and contamination rate. The theory went that the vacuum level and
} contamination rate would fall whilst you were using liquid nitrogen in the
} traps, but once you stopped using LN2 it would take the same amount of time
} for the vacuum level and contamination rate to fall back to the original
} levels. So why heat the cold finger?
}
} I also worked on the design of early SEM cryo systems where once again we
} do not heat the cold finger; I keep asking why?
}
} Is there a proven scientific reason that helps us out in this area,
} practical reason I emphasize?
}
} I do find it rather interesting!
}
} Steve Chapman
} Senior Consultant Protrain
} For professional training and consultancy in EM world wide
} www.emcourses.com
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From daemon Fri Jul 14 09:50:23 2000



From: beth-at-dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Beth Richardson)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 10:46:29 -0500
Subject: Philly roommate? (fwd)

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Forwarded message:

} Hello, I'm a grad student attending the M&M2K meeting in Philadelphia next
} } month, and I'm looking for a roommate. I'm a non-smoking, non-snoring female
} } arriving Aug. 12. PLEASE REPLY TO gcelio-at-arches.uga.edu .
}
} Thanks,
} --Gail Celio

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Athens, GA 30602

Phone - (706) 542-1790
FAX - (706) 542-1805
Email - beth-at-dogwood.botany.uga.edu
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From daemon Fri Jul 14 11:00:28 2000



From: Bruce Brinson :      brinson-at-cnst.rice.edu
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 10:53:24 -0500
Subject: SCSIorIDE

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Could I get opinions based on experience?
I have a nice scanner with a SCSI interface. The vender says my 20
MHz SCSI card exceeds the scanner through put. The scanner would be the
bottle neck on the SCSI buss no mater how fast the SCSI bus or drive is.
So my question : once you have the image on your hard drive, is in
terms of disk I/O for processing, by the time you go from the SCSI bus
to the mother board & back, is there a still a speed advantage to SCSI
over current IDE technology. Or put another way, can I justify buying a
super duty SCSI HD & interface in the name of processing speed & what
would be the relative improvement?


many thanks,
Bruce Brinson
Rice U.




From daemon Fri Jul 14 11:12:01 2000



From: Emma Lou Cardell :      cardelel-at-email.uc.edu
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 12:03:36 -0400
Subject: LM Of Mouse Inner Ear

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Dear All,

During my LM analysis of serial, toluidine blue-stained plastic sections of
decalcified in tact mouse inner ears, I have encountered what appear to be
dark-staining, elongated "crystals" in the supranuclear region of some
Deiter's (support) cells in the organ of Corti. This region of the cells
typically has numerous round lysosomes that stain dark blue; the vast
majority of support cells have the usual round lysosomes present. Deiter's
cells with the long crystals show crystals also in serial sections of the
same cell.
The appearance of the spikey "crystals" in serial sections of the same
cell, the specificity of the inclusions for the support cells only, and the
limited supranuclear location within these highly polarized cells suggest
that these inclusions are not artifacts of staining. I have observed them
in wildtype and mutant animals, but not in every ear of any genotype. I
have done relatively little EM analysis of the ears so far, and no samples
with these inclusions have been checked yet by EM.
Are there lysosomal abnormalities that may result in their contents
becoming crystalline? Why do relatively few Deiter's cells have the
crystals? Apparently the genetic background of the mouse gene knock-out
models I am analyzing includes the development of hearing deficits with
aging. Is it possible that these "deviant Deiter's cells" may be related to
impending changes in the inner ear due to aging (the oldest animals I've
evaluated are 21 weeks old)? Have such inclusions been reported in Deiter's
cells (or other cell types)? I hope someone has an answer!
Thanks for your help or suggestions,

Emma Lou Cardell, Research Associate
Department of Cell Biology, Neurobiology, and Anatomy
University of Cincinnati Medical College
231 Albert Sabin Way
Cincinnati, OH 45267-0667




From daemon Fri Jul 14 11:26:30 2000



From: Ian Cotton :      icotton-at-gatan.com
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 09:41:17 -0700
Subject: Job opening at Gatan

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Chris:

This is my favorite book:

Vacuum Methods in Electron Microscopy
Wilbur C. Bigelow
Portland Press, London, 1994

Ron Vane

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To: Ronald Vane {RVaneXEI-at-concentric.net}
Cc: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com {microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com}


An exciting and challenging opportunity is available with Gatan.

Product Manager,

Analytical Instruments

Gatan Inc. has an immediate opening for a person to handle GIF and PEELS
Product management. Individual should have either GIF or PEELS experience, a
strong TEM background in Biological or Materials science, good computer
skills, a willingness to travel and the vision and drive to help determine
the future of these products. The position is based in Pleasanton, CA and
carries a salary comensurate with experience as well as a bonus plan and
Corporate success share plan. Please contact Ian Cotton, Director of
Marketing at 925-224-7343 or email your resume to icotton-at-gatan.com.

*********************************
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From daemon Fri Jul 14 12:00:26 2000



From: diane.a.ciaburri-at-gdds.com
Date: 7/3/00 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: resin shelf life EPOFIX

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Everett,

We've had the same experience but no answers. We have a bottle right now that
is about one fourth filled with 'crystals'. Once it gets this full we dispose
of it and move on to a fresh bottle. I always wonder about the quality of our
mounts once the crystals start forming but it seems to work OK.

We store our bottles at room temperature and in the solvents cabinet.

Anybody else have any ideas?


Diane Ciaburri
General Dynamics
Pittsfield MA 01210
diane.a.ciaburri-at-gdds.com
(413)494-2847

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Hi,
I use Epofix epoxy. In a very short time after purchase the resin becomes cloudy
and a white sediment forms at the bottom of the bottle. I have heard this
sediment described as crystals. I have continued to use the resin---carefully
avoiding agitation and entrainment of the sediment when I withdraw it from the
bottle. Does anyone else have experience with this?

Everett Ramer
National Energy Technology Laboratory
P.O. Box 10940, Cochrans Mill Road
Pittsburgh, PA, USA 15236-0940
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:13:02 -0400
Subject: Thanks - Deencapsulating Plastic IC's

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Thank you to all who sent ideas and procedures for de-encapsulating plastic
encapsulated IC's. I haven't received any samples yet so haven't been able to
try out any ideas. --The old hurry up and wait routine.

I'm always astounded by how helpful and knowledgeable everyone is. Thank you!
and thanks for managing this listserver, Nestor!


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From daemon Fri Jul 14 12:57:43 2000



From: rlvaughn-at-unmc.edu
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 12:48:06 -0500
Subject: Denton vacuum info

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Does any one know the current phone number and or web site of Denton
Vacuum?
The ones I am using : 888-336-8661, www.dentonvacuum.com are not
responding.
I need some advice on one of their old evaporators and possibly puchase a
couple of thermocouples (vacuum gage). Why do they call it a thermocouple?
The TEM service person that was here didn't think that was a proper name.
Thanks.

Rick Vaughn
rlvaughn-at-unmc.edu



From daemon Fri Jul 14 13:15:20 2000



From: White, Woody N :      Woody.N.White-at-mcdermott.com
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:47:00 -0500
Subject: Re:Specimen and chamber contamination

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Chris,

A comment on your question...

Some turbo pumped vacuum systems stop the turbo and rough pump
through it when evacuating.
I feel you are correct in your comments about such systems.

Other designs implement a valved vacuum bypass so that the chamber is
directly roughed to about 100 microns. When, at this point, the flow is
more
random, the valves switch the turbo in series between the chamber and the
roughing pump and continue to high vacuum. The turbo is allowed to run
continuously, minimizing backstreaming.

The only disadvantage I know to this scheme is the added expense of
controling
circuitry and
the (major) expense of a large hi-vac gate valve.

My old ETEC was plumbed like this and I replaced the dif pump with a Leybold
mag-lev
turbo (too much vibration from the ball bearing pumps). "Cooked" very
little
carbon on to the
specimen surfaces and the vacuum (excluding outgassing specimens) was
typically
1.0 E-6
Torr or better.

Woody White
McDermott Technology, Inc.


From daemon Fri Jul 14 13:17:21 2000



From: Monette, Robert :      Robert.Monette-at-nrc.ca
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:07:42 -0400
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From daemon Fri Jul 14 13:36:50 2000



From: Leona Cohen-Gould :      lcgould-at-mail.med.cornell.edu
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:33:21 -0400
Subject: real-time confocal

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Hi All,
I have a colleague who needs to do real-time confocal or multi-photon. Her
minimum wavelength requirement is 488, although additional wavelengths
would be useful. We are located in New York City, but she is open to
anywhere in the northeast.
If anyone can help her, please contact her directly:

Dr. Geri Kreitzer
Dyson Vision Institute
Weill Medical College of cornell University
1300 York Ave
New York, NY 10021

(212)746-2277

e-Mail: ggurlan-at-med.cornell.edu


Thanks in advance,
Lee

Leona Cohen-Gould, M.S.
Sr. Staff Associate
Director, Electron Microscopy Core Facility
Manager, Optical Microscopy Core Facility
Joan & Sanford I. Weill Medical College
of Cornell University
voice (212)746-6146
fax (212)746-8175




From daemon Fri Jul 14 13:41:43 2000



From: Greg Erdos :      gwe-at-biotech.ufl.edu
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:37:18 -0400
Subject: denton

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I used Denton's site yesterday and today. No problem.
Gregory W. Erdos, Ph.D.
Assistant Director, Biotechnology Program
PO Box 110580
University of Florida
Gainesville, FL 32611

Ph. 352-392-1295 Fax: 352-846-0251


From daemon Fri Jul 14 14:48:33 2000



From: Gang Ning :      gning-at-mcw.edu
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:41:06 -0500
Subject: LR White cell culture

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Hi - I am looking for a good/successful protocol (from fixation to
polymerization) for LR white immunocytochemistry for cell culture. Can
anyone help?. Thanks very much in advance.

G. Ning
EM Facility
Medical College of Wisconsin
414-456-8344
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From daemon Fri Jul 14 15:11:32 2000



From: Nazlia Samodien :      ctssamodien-at-samiot.uct.ac.za
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:54:30 -0500
Subject: Jeol JSM5200

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Hi All
We desperately need some help with our SEM.
Our filament "appeared" to have blown during operation (I was out of the
room for 5 mins and came back to a pretty green screen). I initially
assumed that the electronics were playing up, which sometimes occurs, and
all the settings are thrown out. While tweaking the Contrast/brightness
controls, some kind of warning flashed on the screen. However, it
dissappeared too quickly for me to figure it out, and it has not
reappeared. We changed our filament after no emission current reading was
found. No luck. The technicians then advised us to change and recheck the
filament settings in the cap. Alas, still nothing. We have, however, found
that the LC reading shoots up to about 190ua, during the 4th filament check
but still no image on the screen. Between changing , cleaning & checking
filaments, there has been an eerie inconsistency with the LC. Between three
of us, we have twiddled here and twiddled there without success. Help!!!!!
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Nazlia


_____________________________________________________

Nazlia Samodien

Cardiovascular Research Unit
Dept. of Cardiothoracic Surgery
University of Cape Town Medical School
Anzio Rd, Observatory, 7925, South Africa

Tel. +27 21 406 6398 (office)
+27 21 406 6476 (Secretary)
Fax + 27 21 448 5935


Email: ctssamodien-at-samiot.uct.ac.za




From daemon Fri Jul 14 15:34:03 2000



From: =shAf= :      mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:57:55 -0700
Subject: RE: SCSIorIDE

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Bruce,

The newer IDE technologies(Ultra DMA 66) approaches the "burst speed"
read/write capabilities of the newer SCSI technologies. However, the newest
emerging Ultra DMA 100 technology provides data transfer rates beyond SCSI.
These new drives are going to hit the market any day now. Of course, you
will need to buy a DMA 100 controller card to go along with the DMA 100 hard
drive, unless you opt to buy an new computer with the capabilities built
into the motherboard. If memory serves me right, Quantum Corp. patented the
technology, but I think Maxtor is going to be first to the market with the
drives. Look to Promise Technologies(www.promise.com) for the appropiate
controller card. Good luck.


Gary M. Easton
Scanners Corporation
Third Party SEM Service
410-857-7633 x102
----- Original Message -----
} From: "Bruce Brinson" {brinson-at-cnst.rice.edu}
To: "MSA Listserver" {microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com}
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 11:53 AM


Bruce writes ...

} I have a nice scanner with a SCSI interface. The vender
} says my 20 MHz SCSI card exceeds the scanner throughput.
} The scanner would be the bottle neck on the SCSI buss
} no matter how fast the SCSI bus or drive is.
} ...

I believe your "vendor" sells bridges too :o)

A slower SCSI device will not bottleneck the SCSI bus. The exception
to this is putting a 68pin non-ultrawide (i.e. non-U2W) device on a
U2W bus when you have U2W devices on it. This will slow "U2W" down to
"UW". However, note I am talking about the wide 68pin bus (40Mbs),
not the 50pin bus common to scanners. Even as slow as scanners are,
the modern ones are fast-SCSI compatible ... meaning, even if they're
not fast, they know how to communicate with a fast-SCSI controller and
not slow it down.
Of course ... this is the way it is supposed to work. If your
scanner's fireware is not communicating with the controller properly,
then who knows ... BUT generally speaking, your vendor is incorrect.

shAf :o)



From daemon Fri Jul 14 17:22:52 2000



From: Walck, Scott D. :      walck-at-ppg.com
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 18:10:13 -0400
Subject: RE: Specimen and chamber contamination

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1. The numbers that you want are readily available in a number of Vacuum
science books. Probably the best one with the most data about different
materials is the one by Roth. Sticking coefficients, desorption,
adsorption, and chemisorption of the different gases depend on the gas,
temperature, material, and the surface roughness. That is why the relative
partial pressures of different gases are so different at different vacuum
regimes and vacuum histories (e.g. baked, not baked). If you want a great
material to coat the inside of your vacuum system with that has very good
properties, try gold. I once had a UHV system that was gold plated on the
inside. It was also very pretty.

2. You will only get hydrocarbon (HC) contamination from the mechanical
pump if you pump the system into the molecular range with this pump. The
pump speed for HCs is extremely high. If you pump the system through the
turbo pump, while the T-pump is starting, the mechanical pump is still in
the viscous range. It doesn't take the T-pump to get up to enough speed
before the pump speed will be sufficient to prevent the backstreaming of the
mechanical pump oil. When a T-pump system vents, what is important is that
there is a valve between the mechanical pump and T-pump to prevent oil from
being sucked out of the pump and back into the chamber. A properly designed
T-pump system should also have a gas inlet to help prevent this in case of a
valve failure when a power failure occurs. On T-pumped systems, this is
what you need to examine to see whether the system can be contaminated with
pump oil. Essentially, turn off the power (hypothetically, of course) and
see what happens. If it does not have several systems in place which
includes valves and automatic venting in the correct places, don't buy the
system.

With respect to pump down times, the pressure follows exponential curves.
These curves have dominant regimes. Initially, the volume gas is pumped,
but that is the very fast evacuation stage. Then it transitions over to
virtual leaks (i.e. trapped gas), then desorption off walls, then outgassing
of materials, then rate of gas diffusion through materials (permeation). If
you plot the log of the pressure with time, you will see these changeover
points. The longer the system is under vacuum, the better it gets, assuming
that there are no leaks that set up a steady state condition. Your ultimate
pressure is determined by a simple equation, SP=Q. S is the pump speed
(liters/sec), P(Torr) is the pressure, and Q(Torr-liters/sec) is the
throughput. The throughput is the sum of all leaks and outgassing at your
ultimate pressure. These are all temperature dependent and will increase at
higher temperatures -that's why you bake out.

If you pre-pump with an exchange system that is not designed to minimize
backstreaming, it can lead to contamination of the system when you finally
open the chamber valve.

If you have a chamber that pumps to the 10^-6 Torr region, and you can
operate in the low 10^-5 Torr range while it gets into the 10^-6 range with
time, then the only thing that the exchange system really buys you is time.

-Scott

Scott D. Walck, Ph.D.
PPG Industries, Inc.
Glass Technology Center
Guys Run Rd. (packages)
P. O. Box 11472 (letters)
Pittsburgh, PA 15238-0472

Walck-at-PPG.com

(412) 820-8651 (office)
(412) 820-8161 (fax)



} -----Original Message-----
} From: Chris Jeffree [mailto:cjeffree-at-srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk]
} Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 8:12 AM
} To: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
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} 1) I presume that just as at atmospheric pressure, materials such
} as perspex, anodised aluminium, borosilicate glass, stainless
} steel, gold) differ significantly in their capacity to adsorb water
} vapour and hydrocarbons under high vacuum conditions?
} Presumably they would differ not only in their uptake kinetics but
} also in their desorption kinetics. If one were designing an
} ultraclean
} vacuum system, or an ultraclean specimen environment within a
} specimen chamber, with the objective of minimising deposition to a
} specimen surface during SEM examination, what materials would
} be best to use for the chamber surfaces?
} 2) Presumably the main source of hydrocarbon contamination in an
} SEM is oil vapour back-streaming from the the rotary and diffusion
} pump. Turbo pumps, particularly maglev pumps, must reduce this
} to very low levels while the pumps are running at full speed.
} However, there must be considerable potential for back streaming
} from the backing line during rough pumping from air and turbo run-
} up after specimen changes. This again would seem to me to argue
} in favour of a specimen air-locked system, so that the specimen
} chamber is exposed to air and rough-pumping cycles as little as
} practicable. Does anyone know of any data in the literature
} comparing the magnitudes of contamination in systems using
} different pumping and specimen exchange methods?
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From daemon Fri Jul 14 22:23:35 2000



From: Sang-Ha Leigh :      sleigh-at-ms.cc.sunysb.edu
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 23:06:48 -0400
Subject: re: confocal microscope, any recommendations?

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I am currently looking into a confocal microscope system. Based on my
Internet search, I have a feeling that most of the confocal microscope
systems are primarily designed for "biology". My application will be
investigation of (i)microstructure of ceramic and metallic coatings (mostly
porous), and (ii) surface (including fracture surface) topology. I do not
have any experience in confocal microscopy. I would like to get some of your
opinions about confocal microscope systems for materials science
applications.

Thanks.
============================================
Sang-Ha Leigh, Ph.D.

Department of Materials Science and Engineering
State University of New York at Stony Brook
Stony Brook, NY 11794-2275

Tel: 1-631-632-8486
Fax: 1-631-632-8052
email: sleigh-at-ms.cc.sunysb.edu
============================================



From daemon Sat Jul 15 08:03:14 2000



From: Lalita Ramakrishnan :      lalitar-at-cmgm.stanford.edu
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 07:40:59 -0500
Subject: EMs of frog tissue

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Dear all,

I am working on Mycobacterium marinum infection of frogs (Rana pipiens)
which gives them a chronic tuberculosis-like disease. The frogs develop
granulomas. We have done EMs of these frog granulomas and find certain
cell types that we cannot identify (macrophages vs heterophils?). If any
of you have expertise with amphibian tissues, could you get in touch with
me? We could send you pictures or come down and see you if you are close
by. We would greatly appreciate any help we can get. Thanks in advance.

Lalita Ramakrishnan




From daemon Sat Jul 15 10:11:32 2000



From: Earl Weltmer :      earlw-at-pacbell.net
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 07:52:48 -0700
Subject: Re: Jeol JSM5200

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Hi,

You probably have a high voltage problem as indicated by the high LC current.
Possibly a capacitor in the oil tank or defective high voltage cable.

The repairs are not for a novice or user as the voltages are potentially
lethal. Call a service engineer.

Regards,

Earl Weltmer

Nazlia Samodien wrote:

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} Hi All
} We desperately need some help with our SEM.
} Our filament "appeared" to have blown during operation (I was out of the
} room for 5 mins and came back to a pretty green screen). I initially
} assumed that the electronics were playing up, which sometimes occurs, and
} all the settings are thrown out. While tweaking the Contrast/brightness
} controls, some kind of warning flashed on the screen. However, it
} dissappeared too quickly for me to figure it out, and it has not
} reappeared. We changed our filament after no emission current reading was
} found. No luck. The technicians then advised us to change and recheck the
} filament settings in the cap. Alas, still nothing. We have, however, found
} that the LC reading shoots up to about 190ua, during the 4th filament check
} but still no image on the screen. Between changing , cleaning & checking
} filaments, there has been an eerie inconsistency with the LC. Between three
} of us, we have twiddled here and twiddled there without success. Help!!!!!
} Any info would be greatly appreciated.
} Nazlia
}
} _____________________________________________________
}
} Nazlia Samodien
}
} Cardiovascular Research Unit
} Dept. of Cardiothoracic Surgery
} University of Cape Town Medical School
} Anzio Rd, Observatory, 7925, South Africa
}
} Tel. +27 21 406 6398 (office)
} +27 21 406 6476 (Secretary)
} Fax + 27 21 448 5935
}
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From daemon Sun Jul 16 13:35:26 2000



From: jyr15102-at-glaxowellcome.com ()
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 13:12:28 -0500
Subject: Summer Student Needs Help....

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Email: jyr15102-at-glaxowellcome.com
Name: Jason Remillard
School: University of Alberta

Question: Good Day;

My name is Jason Remillard, and I am a pharmacy student from the
University of Alberta in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. I am working as a
summer student at GlaxoWellcome in Toronto, Ontario and one of my projects
requires the use of the light microscope. Since I am not well trained in
this area, I have a couple of questions that you may be able to help me
with.

The purpose of my project is to help develop a faster method of
determining particulate count for Flonase(TM) Nasal Spray (fluticisone
propionate) - a corticosteroid nasal spray suspension for allergic rhinitis
and sinusitis. The current counting method is labour intensive, and time
consuming. It involves using a regular light microscope, and counting the
particles in the field (and there are a lot). Based on this data, the
particulate
count for the entire bottle is determined. This is currently
being done by the Quality Control Labs, who want to speed it up.

I have the following questions to ask:

Have you ever done any work with fluticisone propionate before?
I thought that by the use of oil immersion microscopy, I would be
able to get better magnification of the area, and have to count
less particles. I would still be able to calculate particle count,
but how would I go about using oil to increase the refractive index?

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From: Labar Janos :      labar-at-mfa.kfki.hu
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 11:20:01 +0200
Subject: Computer program to process SAED ring patterns

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Dear Colleagues,

I have developed a computer program to process electron diffraction ring
patterns. The program can be downloaded FREE from

http://www.mfa.kfki.hu/~labar/

I hope you will enjoy it. Future versions with enhanced functionality are
coming. In case of any problem or suggestion or remark, do not hesitate to
contact me.

Best regards:

Dr. Janos L. Labar
Research Institute for Technical Physics and Materials Science
H-1121 Budapest, Konkoly-Thege u. 29-33
Postal address: H-1525 Budapest-114, Po Box 49
Tel: (36)(1) 392-26-92
Fax: (36)(1) 275-49-96
Fax/phone: (36)(1) 395-92-32
home page: www.mfa.kfki.hu/~labar




From daemon Mon Jul 17 08:24:03 2000



From: Robert Champaign :      r-champaign-at-raytheon.com
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 08:07:48 -0700
Subject: Re: Denton vacuum info

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}
} The phone number I have for Denton is 856-439-9100. I recently used the
number so it should be good.
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From: jyr15102-at-glaxowellcome.com () (by way of Brian McIntyre :      mcintyre-at-optics.rochester.edu )
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 09:35:19 -0400
Subject: Summer Student Needs Help....

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hi-

wouldn't this be a good candidate for some type of optical particle
counting method (hiac type)?? or maybe a coulter type method?

just my 2c...

b-
******************************************

Email: jyr15102-at-glaxowellcome.com
Name: Jason Remillard
School: University of Alberta

Question: Good Day;

My name is Jason Remillard, and I am a pharmacy student from the
University of Alberta in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. I am working as a
summer student at GlaxoWellcome in Toronto, Ontario and one of my projects
requires the use of the light microscope. Since I am not well trained in
this area, I have a couple of questions that you may be able to help me
with.

The purpose of my project is to help develop a faster method of
determining particulate count for Flonase(TM) Nasal Spray (fluticisone
propionate) - a corticosteroid nasal spray suspension for allergic rhinitis
and sinusitis. The current counting method is labour intensive, and time
consuming. It involves using a regular light microscope, and counting the
particles in the field (and there are a lot). Based on this data, the
particulate
count for the entire bottle is determined. This is currently
being done by the Quality Control Labs, who want to speed it up.

I have the following questions to ask:

Have you ever done any work with fluticisone propionate before?
I thought that by the use of oil immersion microscopy, I would be
able to get better magnification of the area, and have to count
less particles. I would still be able to calculate particle count,
but how would I go about using oil to increase the refractive index?

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From: Leona Cohen-Gould :      lcgould-at-mail.med.cornell.edu
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 08:50:31 -0400
Subject: Re: Denton vacuum info

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At 12:48 PM -0500 7/14/0, "rlvaughn-at-unmc.edu"-at-sparc5.microscopy.com wrote:
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Rick,
I have some recent literature from Denton, and the telephone # listed is:
(856)439-9100
The web site you have looks OK. I have and e-mail for
them:info-at-dentonvacuum.com
YOu can also get in touch with Dick Daniel, he is the sale/sevice fellow
here in the NY Metro area. His number is" (201)847-8845. He is very
helpful.

I have nofinfncial interests in Denton Vacuum.

Lee

Leona Cohen-Gould, M.S.
Sr. Staff Associate
Director, Electron Microscopy Core Facility
Manager, Optical Microscopy Core Facility
Joan & Sanford I. Weill Medical College
of Cornell University
voice (212)746-6146
fax (212)746-8175




From daemon Mon Jul 17 09:11:12 2000



From: Rafal Dunin-Borkowski :      rafal.db-at-materials.oxford.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 14:59:56 +0100 (BST)
Subject: 3rd Euroconference on NANOSCIENCE FOR NANOTECHNOLOGY

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3rd Euroconference on NANOSCIENCE FOR NANOTECHNOLOGY

16 - 19 September 2000
Somerville College, Oxford

See: http://nano.org.uk/euro.htm

Special funds are available to support attendance by younger scientists
(under the age of 35) from EU countries.

NOTE: Deadline for submission of abstracts: 1 August 2000.

Under the contract providing EU sponsorship, the organisers are requested
to make special efforts to attract participants from the following target
groups:

- Researchers aged 35 years or under at the time of the conference.
- Researchers whose place of work is in a less-favoured region.
- Women researchers.
- Researchers who work in industry.

The sponsorship includes funding to facilitate participation of
researchers under the age of 35 who are citizens of EU countries. In order
to take advantage of the low cost air fares which are available for
journeys which include a Saturday night stay, the meeting is being
organised over a "long weekend" (Saturday to Tuesday). Only the lowest
cost air fares can be reimbursed, within the available funds.

INTERNATIONAL STEERING COMMITEE
Professor K. Schaumburg, University of Copenhagen
Professor J.T. Devreese, University of Antwerp
Professor G.D.W. Smith, University of Oxford

PARTIAL LIST OF INVITED SPEAKERS
Professor G.A.D. Briggs, Oxford University
Professor J. Chapman, University of Glasgow
Professor J.M. Cooper, University of Glasgow
Professor P.J. Dobson, Oxford University
Dr. J. Gimzewski, IBM Zurich
Dr. J.A. Liddle, Lucent Technologies
Professor R. Palmer, University of Birmingham
Professor A. Persoons, University of Leuven
Dr. A.K. Petford-Long, Oxford University
Professor J.B. Pethica, Oxford University
Dr. Rasmita Raval, University of Liverpool
Dr. T. Spiller, Hewlett Packard
Professor M. Welland, University of Cambridge

SPECIAL EVENTS
Meeting of the ORCHYD Network for Organic-Inorganic Hybrid Devices.
Meeting of the U.K. Foresight Panel Task Force on Nanotechnology
Meeting of Summer School working group 'Self Organisation of
Nanoparticles'
Workshop session on "The interaction of Organic Molecules with Surfaces".
'Consulting the Community' workshop session: "The impact of nanotechnology
on society".
Visits to nanoscience laboratories and nanotechnology spin-out companies
in the Oxford area.
Displays of books and product literature relating to nanoscience and
nanotechnology.
Nanotechnology Networks: It is hoped to announce the successful applicants
for EPSRC networks in nanotechnology, the application deadline for which
is June 2000. These will be interdisciplinary networks including the full
range of scientific and engineering disciplines. It is expected that
successful networks will be actively looking to extend their membership at
this meeting.

CONFERENCE VENUE
Somerville College is one of the constituent colleges of Oxford
University. With a superb location a few minutes walk from the city
centre, and close to the University's main science and engineering
laboratories, it provides an excellent, self-contained location for the
conference.

PUBLICATION OF PROCEEDINGS
Selected papers from the conference will, after peer review, be published
as a special issue of Materials Science and Technology. This issue will be
available for purchase by delegates at the special discounted price of £20
per copy.

CALL FOR PAPERS
Contributed papers are sought, both for oral and poster presentation, in
all areas of nanoscience and nanotechnology.
Deadline for submission: 1st August 2000.
Please state whether you wish to submit an oral presentation or a
poster. Specified Format:

* Abstracts to fit on a single A4 page (21cm wide x 29.7 cm high),
with 2cm margins to left and right, 3cm margins top and bottom.
* Use Times font, 12 point size.
* Start title on a line 3.5 cm from the top of the page.
* Put title in bold, with upper/lower case print (i.e. only initial
letters of title word capitalised).
* Put names of authors on next line, with the name of the presenting
author underlined.
* Put addresses of authors on subsequent lines.
* Leave gap of two lines before commencing text.
* Do not indent at start of paragraphs, leave gap of one line
between paragraphs.
* Put any references at end, in numerical order.
* Send abstract either in hard copy form, or by email as a Word
attachment (specify Word 97).

Send abstracts to:
Julie Hutcheon, Events and Membership Manager, The Institute of
Nanotechnology, 9, The Alpha Centre, Stirling University Innovation Park,
Stirling FK9 4NF, Scotland, UK Email: julie-at-nano.org.uk

CONFERENCE SCHEDULE
The conference starts officially at 6 p.m. on Saturday 16th September, and
ends at 4.30 p.m. on Tuesday 19th. The first meal provided is the evening
meal on the 16th, and the last meal is lunch on the 19th. Therefore the
'nightly' accommodation and meals charge refers to a 24-hour period,
beginning with the evening meal on one day, and ending with lunch on the
following day.

GRANT INFORMATION
Grants are available to assist attendance by younger scientists from the
European Union. Reimbursement can be provided for a limited number of
researchers aged 35 years or younger, who are nationals of a member state
of the European Union or of an associated state (Iceland, Liechtenstein,
Norway and Israel). EARLY REGISTRATION IS ESSENTIAL IN ORDER TO ENSURE
GRANT ASSISTANCE.

Please indicate on your registration form if you wish to apply for grant
support, and include an estimate of your expected travel costs.
Note that only the LOWEST COST return fares to Oxford can be reimbursed.

The organisers will notify you as soon as possible if your grant
application has been accepted. Funds are limited, so early application is
essential. Reimbursement can only be made retrospectively, AFTER the
conference has taken place. You must provide the conference organisers
with evidence of your citizenship, your age at the start of the
conference, and the actual expenditure incurred. Please bring with you to
the conference your passport or other original evidence of citizenship and
date of birth, plus original receipts for all expenditure incurred.

Registration and payment may be made online - see
http://www.nano.org.uk/euro.htm

REGISTRATION FEE
Industry / Government participants: £300
University participants: £200
Registered students: £100

RESIDENTS AT SOMERVILLE COLLEGE
An inclusive charge of £65 per night is payable for residential
accommodation (in single rooms) at Somerville College, together with all
main meals, morning coffee and afternoon tea.



From daemon Mon Jul 17 09:40:05 2000



From: carla_aiwohi-at-usgs.gov
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 07:12:14 -0700
Subject: Denton Vacuum info.

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Rick,

The phone number for Denton Vacuum is (856) 439-9100. Fax (856) 439-9111.

Sincerely,
Carla Aiwohi




From daemon Mon Jul 17 10:06:18 2000



From: Bruce Brinson :      brinson-at-cnst.rice.edu
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 09:59:08 -0500
Subject: CvsD,Fees

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I disagree that uranyl acetate is fairly innocuous. Using the appropriate
dosimeters, we have measured increases of alpha, beta, and gamma radiation
over background levels with the lid of the reagent jar open. Increased
counts were still measured with the closed jar behind an alpha shield at
some distance. We ask our scientific and support staff to take some
necessary precautions for weighing uranyl acetate and other uranium salts
(wear dust mask and latex/vinyl gloves, use a shield in front of the
balance, etc.).

Of course, while the dilute stain solution poses no radiation hazard, it
should be treated as heavy metal waste for disposal purposes. These are my
own suggestions and not necessarily that of USDA.

Bruce F. Ingber, Biologist
USDA-ARS, SRRC
1100 Robert E. Lee Blvd.
New Orleans, LA 70124
(504) 286-4270 phone
(504) 286-4419 fax
bingber-at-commserver.srrc.usda.gov

-----Original Message-----
} From: jim [mailto:jim-at-proscitech.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 8:21 AM
To: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


Hello Microscopist & Lab Managers,
well it's old news to a lot of you but the time has come for us to try
to support service contracts with user fees. I guess we should be
grateful to have deferred this expense to our users for this long.
If we pick a rate based historical usage, all is well? I don't think
so. The old cost vs demand has to come into play. My questions to those
of you that have lived this experience:

1. What was the impact of significant increases in user fees with
respect to hours logged?
2. Did use come back to historical levels after the sticker shock wore
off?
3. Has anyone on the university level actually been able to support
their contracts & related expenses with user fees.

Your experiences & insights would be greatly appreciated.
Also I recall that there was an meeting being organized on this &
similar subjects at M&M 2000. Would the the organizers please contact
me.

thanks,
Bruce Brinson
Rice U.




From daemon Mon Jul 17 10:51:53 2000



From: E. J. McKenzie :      elizm-at-pdx.edu
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 08:37:56 -0700
Subject: thanks for formaldehyde tips

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Hi everyone,

just to say thanks for all your formaldehyde recipes, they solved my
polymerisation problem just in time so we had plenty of formaldehyde to take
on our field-collection trip.

cheers
Elizabeth McKenzie
--------------------------------------------------
Geomicrobiology and Electron Microscopy Laboratory
Room S9 Cramer Hall
1721 SW Broadway
Portland State University
Portland
OR97201

ph:503 725 3362
fax:503 725 3025



From daemon Mon Jul 17 11:08:48 2000



From: rgriffin-at-eng.uab.edu
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 10:57:06 -0500
Subject: Subsurface crack shapes and light basics

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Help!

I have a professor here that wants to determine the subsurface crack shape
in a ceramic by placing a drop of fluorescent dye-penetrant onto
indentations. The cracks are forced open after the dye is allowed to
penetrate and the pre-existing crack area will be covered with dye
penetrant. Our reference says to use external ultraviolet illumination in
an optical microscope to distinguish the pre-cracked area.

It is my understanding that we will need a mercury vapor light and a
fluorescent dye penetrant that is made for weld crack detection. Why do I
need a mercury vapor light? Where would I find out about the basics of this
technique? Will I also need some sort of filter for the microscope?

Has anyone out there done something similar? What supplies and microscope
attachments did they use?

Thanks,

Robin D. Griffin
UAB


From daemon Mon Jul 17 12:02:50 2000



From: David P. Bazett-Jones, Ph.D. :      bazett-at-ucalgary.ca
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 10:55:07 -0600
Subject: Post-Doc Position

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Post-Doctoral Research Position
Department of Cell Biology and Anatomy
University of Calgary
Calgary, Alberta, Canada

A post-doctoral fellowship position is available to investigate
structure-function
relationships of the mammalian cell nucleus. Specifically, the goal of
the research is to determine
at high resolution the spatial relationships of transcriptionally active
genes with sub-nuclear
domains, and how particular gene families are recruited to these
domains. The research will
involve dynamic fluorescence microscopy, digital confocal microscopy and
energy filtered
transmission electron microscopy, together with traditional biochemical
and molecular biological
approaches. Interested applicants should refer to the following recent
publications: Kruhlak et al
(2000) J. Cell Biol. 150, 41-51; Boisvert et al (2000) J. Cell Biol.
148, 283-292; Hendzel et al
(1998) Mol. Biol. Cell 9, 2491-2507.
The position includes salary, benefits and the opportunity to work
in a well-equipped and
dynamic environment in the Cancer Biology Research Group.
Send C.V. and the names of three references to:
Dr. David P. Bazett-Jones
Department of Cell Biology and Anatomy
3330 Hospital Dr
Calgary, AB T2N 4N1 Canada
TEL: (403) 220-3025, FAX (403) 270-0737
email bazett-at-ucalgary.ca



From daemon Mon Jul 17 12:25:17 2000



From: Bruce Brinson :      brinson-at-cnst.rice.edu
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 12:19:25 -0500
Subject: Re: CvsD,Fees

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Hello Lou,
Slow down... Trying to look good? Obviously something has been lost in the
translation & someone has given you the shaft in the past. I am looking for a
solution to things beyond my control. I Personally have no control over the
rates unless I can produce a solution (like yourself?). I view my self as a
(under paid) scientist & I am very pissed off at our university's attitude
toward supporting research facilities. I live eat & breath research.
We drag in mega bucks for tools & nothing for staff or support. I am hoping
to confirm by the voices of experience that this is not a solution. Ya know a
defense without data doesn't go far.
FYI our past (93-2000) fees were $5/hour on state of the art TEM, SEM, AFM ...
come on whine about that! Mean while if our locals will get their bowl in a up
roar like you seem prone to do, we may get a solution.
I appreciate the sincerity of your support even though you missed the
target.

Bruce



Lou Solebello wrote:

} Do you imply keeping fees the same as in past contracts? Forget it
} guy.....that mentality is putting scientists out of work. Nothing goes down
} in prices, and the COL has increased. USA scientists are already under paid
} and over worked because of people like you who want to look good at the
} expense of others.
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} } Hello Microscopist & Lab Managers,
} } well it's old news to a lot of you but the time has come for us to try
} } to support service contracts with user fees. I guess we should be
} } grateful to have deferred this expense to our users for this long.
} } If we pick a rate based historical usage, all is well? I don't think
} } so. The old cost vs demand has to come into play. My questions to those
} } of you that have lived this experience:
} }
} } 1. What was the impact of significant increases in user fees with
} } respect to hours logged?
} } 2. Did use come back to historical levels after the sticker shock wore
} } off?
} } 3. Has anyone on the university level actually been able to support
} } their contracts & related expenses with user fees.
} }
} } Your experiences & insights would be greatly appreciated.
} } Also I recall that there was an meeting being organized on this &
} } similar subjects at M&M 2000. Would the the organizers please contact
} } me.
} }
} } thanks,
} } Bruce Brinson
} } Rice U.
} }
} }
} }



From daemon Mon Jul 17 13:28:42 2000



From: Purdy, Sam :      SPurdy-at-nationalsteel.com
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 18:26:54 -0500
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High pressure mercury vapour lamps are used in most fluorescence
microscopes because they are very intense sources producing
strong emissions only at UV, blue and green wavelengths. A great
many fluorescent dyes are excited by wavelengths in the visible
spectrum, and various lamps can be used to excite them if the
intensity is great enough. Fluorescein, for example can be excited
by blue light, and rhodamine by green. For many applications, e.g.
using rhodamine isothiocyanate, all you need for illumination is a
powerful source of green light, such as a tungsten halogen lamp,
and a filter which transmits green efficiently but cuts all other
wavelengths. An interference filter would be the best choice. For
viewing or photography you will need a filter which efficiently blocks
green light, but efficiently transmits orange/red. Again an
interference filter is best, but you will get a result with a red or
orange photographic filter.

For fluorescence applications at low magnification, using a macro
setup or a low power binocular microscope, and where the dye
concentrations are fairly high, black UV tubes, such as those
battery-powered hand lamps sold to read security marks can
provide enough intensity to be useful for excitation of a wide range
of fluorescent dyes. If you use these to excite rhodamine, keep the
incident light off the orange barrier filter - red, orange and yellow
dyed glass photographic filters are usually fluorescent themselves.

Chris

} From: "rgriffin-at-eng.uab.edu"-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
To: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


Denton's web site is up and running at www.dentonvacuum.com. You can call
or fax at:
Phone: (856) 439-9100 Fax: (856) 439-9111
Thermocouple gauges are called that because they measure the conductive
heat loss from a heated filament with a thermocouple attached to the
filament. Your TEM tech is probably more familiar with Pirani gauge, which
measures the conductive heat loss by measuring the resistance of a heated
filament. The Pirani gauge is commonly used on European and Asia
instruments, where American instruments are more likely to use
thermocouples.



Allen R. Sampson, Owner
Advanced Research Systems, St. Charles, Illinois 60174
voice 630.513.7093 fax 630.513.7092

On Friday, July 14, 2000 12:48 PM,
"rlvaughn-at-unmc.edu"-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
[SMTP:"rlvaughn-at-unmc.edu"-at-sparc5.microscopy.com] wrote:
} Does any one know the current phone number and or web site of Denton
} Vacuum?
} The ones I am using : 888-336-8661, www.dentonvacuum.com are not
} responding.
} I need some advice on one of their old evaporators and possibly puchase a
} couple of thermocouples (vacuum gage). Why do they call it a
thermocouple?
} The TEM service person that was here didn't think that was a proper name.
} Thanks.
}
} Rick Vaughn
} rlvaughn-at-unmc.edu
}
}
}


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Our experience was that in 1986, when charges were first imposed
on our users, numbers of users crashed and stayed low, even when
rates of charge were insufficient to cover the bills. When charges
were raised towards realistic rates usership fell even further. Even in
today's environment, where people know that charges are a fact of
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Hi!
I don't know much about the specificsof your test but you will need
a source of UV light, such as mercury lamp, to excite the fluorescing
material. Go to the Bio Dep't and talk to them about fluorescence
microscopy.
I would be very cautious about interpreting the results. Crack
penetrating fluid have very low viscosities and surface tensions in order to
penetrate the crack. Once you have broken open the specimen, I would expect
the fluid to creep over the newly generated surfaces.
A better way, I would think, would be to obtain a low viscosity
epoxy resin ( back to the Bio Dep't), add some fluorescent dye, and vacuum
impregnate the specimen. After curing the epoxy, break open the specimen.
The cracked surfaces will be covered with a solid fluorescing compound that
will not creep. A complication will be that the epoxy may cement together
the cracked surfaces and fracture will occur elsewhere.
Another approach woud be to use image analysis techniques. See Jon
Russ' book "Image Processing Handbook" or "The Image Processing Tool Kit"
from Reindeer Games, PO Box 37188, Raleigh, NC 27627.

I have no financial intersest in the company.

Sam Purdy
Technical Center,
National Steel Corp
1745 Fritz Dr, Trenton,MI 48183
spurdy-at-nationalsteel.com




From daemon Mon Jul 17 18:58:22 2000



From: sbrockett-at-tqs.com (by way of Nestor J. Zaluzec)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 18:25:30 -0500
Subject: Microtome TEM X-sections

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Several years ago, we had some precision X-sections done using a microtome.
This was done to create TEM samples of gold metalization in a low-k
dielectric. Since that time, we've been unable to find the service offered
in an outside lab. Does anyone know a lab offering this type of
X-sectioning? Any info would be appreciated.


Steve Brockett
Customer Returns and Failure Analysis Manager
TriQuint Semiconductor
2300 NE Brookwood Parkway
Hillsboro, OR 97124
503-615-9303
sbrockett-at-tqs.com




From daemon Mon Jul 17 19:01:03 2000



From: Rozeveld, Steve (SJ) :      SJROZEVELD-at-dow.com
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 17:07:05 -0400
Subject: used SEM, FE-SEM, TEM available

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} Leica S 360 SEM, $35,000
} Purchased 1989, LaB6 filament.
} Cathode luminescence, Robinson BSE, Solid state BSE,
} Oxford 3 position EDS detector (BE, thin window, windowless), 4PI system for EDS & digital image acquisition.
} Buyer pays for the move. All systems are operational and available for demo.
}
} Hitachi H-600 TEM, $20,000 (without CCD camera)- $50,000 (with CCD camera)
} Purchased 1988,
} 100 keV, W filament,
} Gatan Model 791 digital camera YAG with Digital Micrograph ( 2 years old).
} Buyer pays for move. All systems are operational and available for demo.
}
} Topcon DS 130 F, $40,000
} Purchased 1989
} Schottky field emission gun SEM,
} Dual stage system
} Resolution (top stage- 10 Angstroms at 30keV, 40 Angstroms at 1keV) (bottom stage-20 Angstroms at 30keV, 100 Angstroms at 1keV), Robinson BSE on lower stage, Oxford Be window EDS detector on lower stage, 4PI system for EDS and digital image acquisition, IP30 frame over imaging system.
} Buyer pays for move. All systems are operational and available for demo.
}
}
} contact:
}
} John Blackson
} The Dow Chemical Company
} Midland, MI 48667
} 517-636-6316 office
} 517-638-6443 fax
} jhblackson-at-dow.com
}
or

} Steve Rozeveld
} The Dow Chemical Company
} Analytical Sciences Laboratory
} 1897 Bldg., Door E43
} Midland, MI 48667
} 517-636-5167 office
} 517-638-6443 fax
} sjrozeveld-at-dow.com
}


From daemon Mon Jul 17 20:25:37 2000



From: donald j marshall :      dmrelion-at-world.std.com
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 21:11:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: new york microscopical society

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Anyone interested in the Yearbooks of the New York Microscopical Society for
1955, 1956, 1957, 1958,1961, and 1968? All or nothing. I'll even pay the
postage for domestic mailings.

Don Marshall

Donald J. Marshall
Relion Industries
P.O. Box 12
Bedford, MA 01730
Ph: 781-275-4695
FAX: 781-271-0252
email dmrelion-at-world.std.com

Cathodoluminescence, mass spectroscopy, electron beam technology


"A weed is a flower out of place."

(Please note: Do not send email with attachments to this address. Instead, send it to donbarlen-at-aol.com. Thank you.)


From daemon Mon Jul 17 21:30:16 2000



From: Smartech :      smartech-at-javanet.com
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 22:27:43 -0400
Subject: Amray 1920

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If someone says they have an Amray 1920, what sort of SEM do they have?
Approximate year?
Fully Digital?
PC controlled?
Resolution?

Thanks
Ric





From daemon Mon Jul 17 22:01:17 2000



From: Koh YinHsian-CYK006 :      Yinhsian.Koh-at-Motorola.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:52:36 +0800
Subject: Re: Subsurface crack shapes and light basics

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Hi,

Wondering if you can recommend a good penetrant and epoxy to use and where
to get it. I am in the middle to source for the penetrant to perform solder
joint crack (BGA etc), molded parts crack and plating crack. Perhpas you can
advice if this method will be the simplest method to identify the
crack/craze line.

My understand from our local supplier is they have an external accessory
that can attach to the scope. The cost of the external features is about
USD5000 (Olympus). The bulb is mercury lamp that can last only 200 hours.


Regards,
YH Koh
(MQE Engineer)
Motorola CGISS Penang,
Bayan Lepas FIZ, Phase 3,
11900 Penang, Malaysia.
Tel : 60-4-8504089
Fax: 60-4-6124903




-----Original Message-----
} From: Purdy, Sam [mailto:SPurdy-at-nationalsteel.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 7:27 AM
To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


Hi!
I don't know much about the specificsof your test but you will need
a source of UV light, such as mercury lamp, to excite the fluorescing
material. Go to the Bio Dep't and talk to them about fluorescence
microscopy.
I would be very cautious about interpreting the results. Crack
penetrating fluid have very low viscosities and surface tensions in order to
penetrate the crack. Once you have broken open the specimen, I would expect
the fluid to creep over the newly generated surfaces.
A better way, I would think, would be to obtain a low viscosity
epoxy resin ( back to the Bio Dep't), add some fluorescent dye, and vacuum
impregnate the specimen. After curing the epoxy, break open the specimen.
The cracked surfaces will be covered with a solid fluorescing compound that
will not creep. A complication will be that the epoxy may cement together
the cracked surfaces and fracture will occur elsewhere.
Another approach woud be to use image analysis techniques. See Jon
Russ' book "Image Processing Handbook" or "The Image Processing Tool Kit"
from Reindeer Games, PO Box 37188, Raleigh, NC 27627.

I have no financial intersest in the company.

Sam Purdy
Technical Center,
National Steel Corp
1745 Fritz Dr, Trenton,MI 48183
spurdy-at-nationalsteel.com




From daemon Tue Jul 18 02:44:35 2000



From: Rosemary White :      Rosemary.White-at-pi.csiro.au
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 17:30:45 +1000
Subject: Re: CvsD,Fees

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I'll add my 2c worth...

In the past, EM/microscopy facilities I've been part of and used in
Australia have not charged fees, and most still don't charge users within
their institutions, or have a very minimal charge, e.g. $5/hour for
confocal just to put something into laser replacement, and $500-$1000 per
year for use of all EM facilities, including costs to prepare tissue, etc.
To external users, government facilities are supposed to charge commercial
rates, so they don't compete unfairly with fully commercial facilities. I
believe it's similar in the USA.

But "full cost recovery" is coming, even for users of facilities within
their own institutions. It has come to a few facilities, and the result is
a dramatic fall-off in users. Even when fairly minimal fees are imposed,
this breaks the bank for some people, especially for undergrad student
projects.

To be more specific:
1. What was the impact of significant increases in user fees with
respect to hours logged?
Hours logged for TEM dropped to 30% and continued to decline. Hours on SEM
dropped 50% and stayed low.

2. Did use come back to historical levels after the sticker shock wore
off?
No, though there was a little recovery.

3. Has anyone on the university level actually been able to support
their contracts & related expenses with user fees.
In my experience in 5 institutions, no, even when high fees were charged.

I don't know how to fight this, you need strong support from a large user
base. Even then, you can be beaten by the bean counters if they are in
ascendency.


Rosemary White
Microscopy Centre
CSIRO Plant Industry
GPO Box 1600
Canberra, ACT 2601
Australia

phone 61-2-6246 5475
fax 61-2-6246 5000
email r.white-at-pi.csiro.au




From daemon Tue Jul 18 05:08:14 2000



From: Kristiane Gans :      Kristiane.Gans-at-medizin.uni-magdeburg.de
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 11:54:57 +0200
Subject: used microscopes in the Net

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Hi,

are ther any internetpages where I can buy/sell microscopes and
fittings?

Thanks, Kristiane



From daemon Tue Jul 18 05:42:22 2000



From: donald j marshall :      dmrelion-at-world.std.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 06:30:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: new york microscopical society

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Ed, You were the first to reply and they are yours for the museum. Should
go out today.

Don Marshall





} From COURYHOUSE-at-aol.com Tue Jul 18 01:10:29 2000
}
} From: COURYHOUSE-at-aol.com
} Received: from COURYHOUSE-at-aol.com
}
} Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 01:06:41 EDT
} Subject: Re: new york microscopical society
} To: dmrelion-at-WORLD.STD.COM
}
}
} we would like to have these for the museums collection.
} many will get use of them.
} thanks Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC
}
} Coury house / SMECC
} 5802 w Palmaire Ave
} Glendale AZ 85301
}
} { { Subj: new York microscopical society
} Date: 7/17/00 9:16:22 PM US Mountain Standard Time
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} 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958,1961, and 1968? All or nothing. I'll even pay the
} postage for domestic mailings.
}
} Don Marsha } }
}

Donald J. Marshall
Relion Industries
P.O. Box 12
Bedford, MA 01730
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email dmrelion-at-world.std.com

Cathodoluminescence, mass spectroscopy, electron beam technology


"A weed is a flower out of place."

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From daemon Tue Jul 18 08:06:40 2000



From: Chris Edwards :      fishon-at-umich.edu
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 08:55:12 -0400
Subject: Static Problems with Cryo

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One of our researchers is having trouble with cryo-thin sections jumping
back onto the face of the block. Apparently this is a static problem.
Does anyone use an anti-static device for this? If so, what is available.
Also any thoughts for this cure would be appreciated. Thanks.




From daemon Tue Jul 18 08:11:24 2000



From: Susan Carbyn :      CarbynS-at-em.agr.ca
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:02:39 -0400
Subject: Scale bar

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I am wondering if someone could help me out with trying to use John Russ's Image toolkit for putting on scale bars for digital plates. I have light micrographs that were taken at 20 and 40x magnification, and also 20 and 40x magnification of calibration grid slides of 25 and 250 micrometers from MicrobrightField Inc. These calibration images I tried to set up a txt file using calibrate by marking out the points from one grid bar to the next, and specifying it as either 25 or 250 micrometers depending on which calibration grid I used. I saved this file and imported it on a light micrograph of similar magnification. When I do this importing, and then use the magnification bar option, the bar does not reflect the calibration scale. Also, if I just use the magnification bar on the original calibration grid, it comes out to be 7micrometers for each division rather than the 25 or 250 that I have specified. If someone could suggest where I am going wrong, I would very much appreciate it. I hope I haven't completely confused people!

Thanks,
Susan

Susan Carbyn
Electron Microscopy Technician
Atlantic Food and Horticulture Research Centre
Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada
32 Main Street, Kentville, Nova Scotia B4N 1J5
Canada

Phone: (902) 679-5566
Fax: (902) 679-2311

E-mail: carbyns-at-em.agr.ca



From daemon Tue Jul 18 08:36:37 2000



From: Brian McIntyre :      mcintyre-at-optics.rochester.edu
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:24:00 -0400
Subject: Re: CvsD,Fees

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hi listers-

i've been in a "cover costs or die" situation for the past 6 years. at
first usage stayed about the same...then dropped off as my user base found
cheaper and better alternatives on the equipment side of the equation (a
happier and more accomodating microscopist they'll never find!), at other
less "cost recovery" oriented universities. i was then funded by the NSF
to update some of the lab (a new FESEM in particular). with this came a new
influx of users. i'm now able to cover nearly all of the lab expenses
(contracts, supplies, upgrades, and salary). i still have a slush fund to
cover unsponsored research and classroom activities, but have imposed a
user fee for specialized training courses.

hope this helps...
b-
**************************

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From daemon Tue Jul 18 09:25:03 2000



From: DrJohnRuss-at-aol.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:12:22 EDT
Subject: Re: Scale bar

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Susan

Are you sure that the scale is wrong? There could be two different kinds of
problems here. One is that the tool kit draws a line whose length is
determined by the size of the image, and labels it with the length in the
calibrated measurement units. This might not (would not, in general) be the
same length as the distance that you originally marked for establishing the
calibration. The other problem might be that the calibration is in fact
wrong, possibly something wrong with the file, etc., but the first
explanation is more likely. If you want to create markers that are exactly a
certain length then the best way to do it is to draw the line in a blank
image, label it as you wish, crop to just the region around the label and
line, and save it as a file. Then copy and paste this onto your images. The
calibration routine in the tool kit is primarily aimed at making measurements
come out in the right units, and the scale marker was more-or-less an
afterthought. Hope this helps and doesn't add to the confusion.

John C. Russ


From daemon Tue Jul 18 09:32:12 2000



From: jim :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:24:02 +1000
Subject: RE: safety criteria for using Uranyl Acetate

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I agree, its certainly not innocuous, but neither are many common household
goods.
The questions really are: is it more dangerous than other substances, which are
not subject to permits and would regulations and permits improve safety in any
significant way? Regulations should be relative to risks. I think its absurd
that we as a reseller are required to have permits and many other regulations
under the new Australian system.
A reseller is not opening the jar, or even the outer metal container. A 25g
glass jar of UA is enclosed in heavy Al foil (to produce low energy Al X-rays)
and then enclosed in a tin can, which shields most of the remaining radiation.
What about the end-user? Should they need a permit? To see that in perspective,
just imagine running a lab that requires a couple dozen permits for things like
OsO4, the aldehydes, cacodylic acid and many more substances including liquid
nitrogen and I suggest boiling water. You'd better hire a secretary and obtain
more funds to pay for those permits.
I have a full discussion of the topic -at-

www.proscitech.com/uranyl.htm

The other point you are making about it being a heavy metal was rebutted
recently and nicely in this forum. Gold, platinum and iridium are very heavy
metals. In fact you cannot get heavier than Iridium! You can eat these heavy
elements in great quantity if you can afford it and suffer no ill effect.
"Heavy metal" has become a slur, but its meaningless.
Uranyl acetate is fully water soluble and is not cumulative in organisms. So,
however toxic as a chemical poison (and less so radiologically), its not a
problem in the environment, unless you are emitting very high doses. Some
locations will have laws dis- allowing the discharge of tiny quantities of a 1%
UA solution; so people accumulate the material and create a problem. Much
smarter to discharge UA down the sink with plenty of water.
Please read up on our site if you are interested in the topic.
Regarding your safety precautions: I think that the people handling 200 litre
drums of uranium oxide (yellow-cake) or underground uranium miners would find
your precautions highly entertaining. Yet its these people who need to be
concerned, not laboratory staff who weigh out 0.25grams of UA once a month.
Cheers
Jim Darley
ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS
PO Box 111, Thuringowa QLD 4817 Australia
Ph +61 7 4774 0370 Fax:+61 7 4789 2313 service-at-proscitech.com
Great microscopy catalogue, 500 Links, MSDS, User Notes
ABN: 99 724 136 560 www.proscitech.com

On Tuesday, July 18, 2000 12:41 AM, Ingber, Bruce F.
[SMTP:bingber-at-commserver.srrc.usda.gov] wrote:
}
}
} I disagree that uranyl acetate is fairly innocuous. Using the appropriate
} dosimeters, we have measured increases of alpha, beta, and gamma radiation
} over background levels with the lid of the reagent jar open. Increased
} counts were still measured with the closed jar behind an alpha shield at
} some distance. We ask our scientific and support staff to take some
} necessary precautions for weighing uranyl acetate and other uranium salts
} (wear dust mask and latex/vinyl gloves, use a shield in front of the
} balance, etc.).
}
} Of course, while the dilute stain solution poses no radiation hazard, it
} should be treated as heavy metal waste for disposal purposes. These are my
} own suggestions and not necessarily that of USDA.
}
} Bruce F. Ingber, Biologist
} USDA-ARS, SRRC
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}
} -----Original Message-----
} } From: jim [mailto:jim-at-proscitech.com.au]
} Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 8:21 AM
} To: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: want to know national permit requirements for Uranyl
} Acetate
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} I would also like to know of any significant incident involving UA anywhere.
} I should point out that radiation damage would not show for years and one
} would never know the original cause. The radiation though is low, so unless
} a person would take to sleeping with a jar of UA there is no real danger.
} The real danger of UA is as a non-cumulative (happily), but severe kidney
} poison, but this is of course no issue with the Radiation people.
} Cheers
} Jim Darley
}
} ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS
} PO Box 111, Thuringowa QLD 4817 Australia
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} Great microscopy catalogue, 500 Links, MSDS, User Notes
} ABN: 99 724 136 560 www.proscitech.com
}



From daemon Tue Jul 18 11:05:21 2000



From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 11:45:05 -0400
Subject: Re: Specimen and chamber contamination

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Walck, Scott D. wrote:

} 1. . . . If you want a great
} material to coat the inside of your vacuum system with that has very good
} properties, try gold. I once had a UHV system that was gold plated on the
} inside. It was also very pretty.

Dear Scott,
Maybe it's my high-voltage upbringing, but I'd be careful about
using
high-Z materials (except for apertures). The scattering and brehmsstrahlung
production cross-sections are much higher for high-Z, so stray electrons and
x-rays will be higher. This leads to high background for microanalysis and
(for sufficiently high beam energies) x-rays emerging from the column.
Yours,
Bill Tivol



From daemon Tue Jul 18 12:50:43 2000



From: Dohnalkova, Alice :      Alice.Dohnalkova-at-pnl.gov
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:40:22 -0700
Subject: Static Problems with Cryo

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I have a good experience and can recommend DiATOME Static line (this particular
one is Static line II), the ionizer with variable voltage. If you're sectioning
with a diamond cryo knife, it should really help. Let me know if you need more
info. Alice.

Alice Dohnalkova
Environmental Microbiology
Battelle, PNNL
MS P7-50
Richland, WA 99352
tel. (509) 372-0692
fax (509) 376-1321


-----Original Message-----
} From: Chris Edwards [SMTP:fishon-at-umich.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 5:55 AM
To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


One of our researchers is having trouble with cryo-thin sections jumping
back onto the face of the block. Apparently this is a static problem.
Does anyone use an anti-static device for this? If so, what is available.
Also any thoughts for this cure would be appreciated. Thanks.




From daemon Tue Jul 18 15:34:32 2000



From: Carlos Kazuo Inoki :      kazuo-at-csc.albany.edu
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 16:22:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: TEM: tripod polishing of MgO

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Hi,

Seems I am stucked with another sample for XTEM. :) I was
preparing a sample, metal thin film on MgO (100) substrate. I am having a
hard time to get it thin, monitoring the thickness with a Si piece on top.
The problem is that the MgO has a bad habit of chipping even before the Si
get thin enough to be light transparent. I observed a piece of the
substrate after ion milling in TEM and there was a network of
dislocations. Probably introduced by the polishing on diamond films. Does
someone else tried to do tripod polishing with MgO to make a wedge shaped
sample? Thanks.

Carlos

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| Department of Physics - University at Albany |
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From daemon Tue Jul 18 15:49:18 2000



From: Kim Pierson :      piersokw-at-uwec.edu
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:39:28 -0500
Subject: TEM: Useful tripod polishing trick

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A trick which I have found useful during tripod polishing is to use a 1/4"
thick mirror instead of a clear glass on the polishing wheel. The mirror
allows you to easily see if there are any contamination particles on the
surface before placing the polishing disk on the glass. I got mine made at
the local glass company for $6.50. I specifically asked them to insure that
there weren't any scratches on the surface.

Please forgive if this is common knowledge...





**************************************************************
Kim W. Pierson, Ph.D.
Dept of Physics & Astronmoy
University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
(715) 836-5009
FAX 836-3955



From daemon Tue Jul 18 16:02:57 2000



From: JPMcC54-at-aol.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 16:54:27 EDT
Subject: EM Virus Images Needed

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Greetings.

Our small educational TV production company is working on a half hour video
project on VIRUSES. It is intended for classroom and library use and is for
middle school age kids. We are looking for electron microscope photographs of
various viruses including TMV, HIV, Herpes, Hepatitis B, and Rabies. We are
also interested in images showing the invasion of a bacterium by a
bacteriophage. More generic images of viruses could also be used in certain
portions of the program. Our preferred format for delivery is 35mm slides,
but we are flexible on that point. Reasonable image clarity is important,
but images can be either B&W or colorized. We can cover all expenses, and
offer a modest fee for image use. We will need a signed non-exclusive
release from the owner (broad in rights, but limited to this series), and we
can credit the appropriate person in the credits of the program. Images can
be scanned and e-mailed to us for review, or we can log on to your site to
view them. Please e-mail me at Stnehouse-at-aol.com if you would like to
discuss this further.

John McCally
Stone House Productions


From daemon Tue Jul 18 17:02:04 2000



From: Wil Bigelow :      bigelow-at-engin.umich.edu
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 17:50:02 -0400
Subject: RE: Book on Vacuum

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TO: Chris Jeffree (and others):

I believe that my book "Vacuum Methods in Electron Microscopy" (Portland
Press, London, 1994. ISBN I85578-052-6) provides a discussion of viscous
(p. 29) and molecular (p.32) flow, and of the significance of these two
modes of flow in the overall evacuation process (Ch. 2) that can be
understood by anyone, who has had basic training in any field of science.
Dr. Audrey M. Glauert was the Editor who monitored the writing and
publication of this book, and since she is a biologist you can be sure it
can be understood by biologists.

The use of specimen anticontamination devices is also discussed (pp. 12),
as well as procedures for warming them up (p.400).

Reviewers' comments and a general description of this bok can be found at
http://pup.princeton.edu, and http://www.2spi.com/catalog/books/book48.html


Wilbur C. Bigelow, Prof. Emeritus
Materials Sci. & Engr., University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2136 e-mail: bigelow-at-umich.edu;
Fx:734-763-4788; Ph:734-662-5237




From daemon Tue Jul 18 17:46:31 2000



From: John Foust :      jfoust-at-threedee.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 17:37:43 -0500
Subject: Zeiss OpMi-1 available

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I have a Zeiss OpMi-1 binocular tilt surgical microscope for
sale on eBay at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=385867802

Maddeningly, my e-mail program destroyed my microscopy mailbox
earlier today, so I lost all correspondence from several people
who were interested in this microscope.

I started the bidding at $1,500, which I thought was a reasonable
mid-point given the range of offers ($20 .. $600 .. $1,200 .. $2,000)
I'd received on it in e-mail.

- John



From daemon Tue Jul 18 17:54:54 2000



From: Joseph Passero :      jp-at-spacelab.net
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 18:46:35 -0400
Subject: Available a Reichart EPI Fluorescence microscope.....

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I have available a Reichart Microstar IV EPI Fluorescence microscope in excellent condition. From
a hematology lab. Also has transmitted light

If you are interested send me a reasonable offer.

Thank You

Best Regrads

Joseph Passero

mailto:jp-at-spacelab.net


From daemon Tue Jul 18 20:21:40 2000



From: Pbgrover-at-aol.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 21:07:22 EDT
Subject: Re: used microscopes in the Net

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Kristiane,

I think LabX.com is your best bet. Cheers!

Paul Grover


From daemon Tue Jul 18 21:51:08 2000



From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 19:38:29 -0700
Subject: Olympus PlanAPO 100X objective

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I have a new Olympus PlanAPO 100X/1.4 oil objective
in the container.

Will consider offers for sale; or trades for Zeiss Axioskop
Epiplan, Neo and other Axioskop and Axiotron
systems and accessories.

Cheers,
Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.

gary-at-gaugler dot com



From daemon Tue Jul 18 22:20:29 2000



From: COURYHOUSE-at-aol.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 23:11:43 EDT
Subject: Re: new york microscopical society

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thanks much!
the collection grows
ed sharpe archivist for smecc

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Ed, You were the first to reply and they are yours for the museum. Should
go out today.

Don Marshall
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From daemon Wed Jul 19 03:09:15 2000



From: PHIL MUTCH :      Philip.Mutch-at-nottingham.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:33:21 GMT0BST
Subject: Histo-technik resin

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Date sent: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 17:50:02 -0400
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} From: Wil Bigelow {bigelow-at-engin.umich.edu}


Hi,

I have been asked to section undecalcified bone that has been
embedded in histo-technik resin at a section thickness up to 20 um.
Has any one any experience or know of any references, in cutting with
this medium that they would like to share eg type of
knife/microtome, optimum thickness, mounting sections onto slides and
staining.
any info would be greatly appreciated
thanks in advance

Phil
Mr Philip Mutch,
School of Biomedical Science,
E Floor Medical School,
University of Nottingham,
Nottingham,
NG7 2UH. UK.
E-mail Philip.Mutch-at-nottingham.ac.uk


From daemon Wed Jul 19 07:06:05 2000



From: Nuria Cortadellas :      nuriac-at-giga.sct.ub.es
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 13:53:51 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: antibody

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Hi,
does anybody knows where I could purchase a specific cytokinin antibody?
thanks in advanced
Nuria

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Serveis Cientifico-Tecnics
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Fax: +34 3 402 13 98
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From daemon Wed Jul 19 08:35:58 2000



From: hard-at-acsu.buffalo.edu
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:25:34 -0500
Subject: Final Course Announcement

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Course Announcement

Title: Optical Microscopy and Imaging in the Biomedical Sciences

When: October 11 - October 19, 2000

Where: Marine Biology Laboratory, Woods Hole, MA, USA

Tuition: $2150 (Includes room and board, text, handouts, supplies)

Application Deadline: August 1, 2000

Admission application and information:
Carol Hamel, Admissions Coordinator
Marine Biological Laboratory
7 MBL Street
Woods Hole, MA 02543-1015
(508) 289-7401
Internet: admissions-at-mbl.edu
WWW: http://www.mbl.edu (Application forms available via Adobe Acrobat)

Course Director: Colin S. Izzard, State University of New York -at- Albany
Phone: [518] 442 - 4367
EMail: csizzard-at-csc.albany.edu

Course Description:

For Whom:
Designed primarily for research scientists, physicians, postdoctoral
trainees and advanced graduate students in animal, plant, medical and
material sciences. Non-biologists seeking a comprehensive introduction to
microscopy and video-imaging will benefit greatly from this course as well.
There are no specific prerequisites, but an understanding of the basic
principles of optics is desirable. Limited to 24 students.

The eight day course consists of lectures, laboratory demonstrations,
exercises and discussions that will enable the participant to obtain and
interpret microscope images of high quality, to perform quantitative optical

measurements, and to produce photographic and video records for
documentation
and analysis.

Topics to be covered include:
principles of microscope design and image formation
bright field, dark field, phase contrast, polarized light,
differential
interference contrast, interference reflection, and fluorescence
microscopy
confocal scanning microscopy, multiphoton excitation fluorescence
microscopy and image deconvolution
digital image restoration and 3-D reconstruction
video imaging, recording, enhancement, and intensification
analog and digital image processing and analysis
fluorescent probes and ratiometric-imaging
laser tweezers and laser scissors

Applications to live cells will be emphasized; other specimens will be
covered as well.

Students will have direct hands-on experience with state-of-the-art
microscopes, video cameras, recorders and image processing equipment
provided
by major optical and electronics companies. Instruction will be provided by
experienced staff from universities and industry.

Students are encouraged to bring their own biological (primary
cultures, cell lines, etc.) and material specimens and to discuss individual

research problems with the faculty.



From daemon Wed Jul 19 09:30:47 2000



From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:15:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Formvar & 1,2 dichloroethane

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Jon Krupp wrote:

Dear Jon,

} I was just visited by one of our EH&S folks who wanted to know why I had
} 1,2 dichloroethane.
}
} Seems they track purchases and I bought some last year to make formvar films.
}
} 1,2 dichloroethane is on their bad list as a carcinogen. He was actually
} here to figure out how much might be going up the fume hood so he could
} make a report to the local air quality agency. But as we talked, it seemed
} like it would be better to not have the stuff around.

Yes, 1,2 dichloroethane is a carcinogen; it's also a hepatotoxin.
However, so is chloroform, and I don't know that there is a significant
difference in the toxicities of these two compounds. Neither is as toxic
as carbon tetrachloride.

}
} Anyone have experience with formvar in chloroform? I read it works but have
} never tried it. According to our EH&S guys, chloroform would be better than
} 1,2, dichloroethane.
}

I have used formvar in chloroform and in 1:1 chloroform-acetone;
either will work.
Yours,
Bill Tivol



From daemon Wed Jul 19 09:44:12 2000



From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:28:29 -0400
Subject: Re: EDS analysis of Co in WC-Co

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Leroux christine wrote:

} I am working on powders of mixed WC and Co and I have some problems with EDS.
} EDS analysis on grains whose diffractions patterns are unambiguously
} indexed in the Co structure give a majority of W, and EDS analysis on
} grains whose diffractions patterns are unambiguously indexed in the WC
} structure (without distortion and superstructures) always indicate the
} presence of Co (with a majority of W). So I was wondering if there could be
} any problem with EDS on Cobalt (because of magnetism????)
}

Dear Christine,
The magnetic properties of Co should not affect EDS. The incoming
electrons have sufficient energies that it takes fields on the order of
kilogauss
to deflect them (typical EM lens fields). If you can get an undistorted image,
the fields in your sample will not affect the electrons' path. Because
electrons
scatter strongly, the volume of the specimen where x-rays are generated may
be much larger than you would predict from the size of the beam. Also,
scattering within the specimen area may result in parts of the specimen being
illuminated be stray electrons and producing x-rays. You do not mention
such relevant parameters as the beam and grain sizes, which lines you're
looking at, or the incident electron energy. I might be able to say more if I
knew these things.
Yours,
Bill Tivol



From daemon Wed Jul 19 09:53:08 2000



From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:38:41 -0400
Subject: Re: Refrigerator osmium

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Chris Jeffree wrote:

} This doesn't seem to cover it. Gold and platinum are heavy metals.
} So are we to treat them as we treat osmium tetroxide?
} Where does light end and heavy begin anyway? There is a real
} need here for a proper definition of the risk.
}
} }
} } The problem is that any form of osmium is a heavy metal, and therefore
} } should be treated as one would cadmium or arsenic. It is not innocuous.
} }

Dear Chris, Don, etc.,
It's not the atomic mass, but the chemistry that's important.
Many
heavy elements mimic the effects of lighter--and essential--elements, so
Cd and Hg can mimic Zn, Ra can mimic Ca, and Tl can mimic K, etc. In
all these cases, the heavier element has sufficiently different properties
that it interferes with the function of something that the lighter element
is involved with. As was pointed out, OsO4 is very toxic, but Os metal
is not. In fact, Os metal has properties very much like Pt. (Again to ill-
ustrate the importance of chemistry, Pt metal is harmless, but cis-platin
is a toxic chemotherapy agent).
Yours,
Bill Tivol



From daemon Wed Jul 19 11:15:42 2000



From: Beavers, Roy :      rbeavers-at-post.cis.smu.edu
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:49:19 -0500
Subject: Images of Zeolites

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List,

I have a customer from the chemistry department that wants to obtain some
SEM images of zeolite crystals in a flyash material (fine grain powder). My
question is how to prep this material to get it into the probe? Any ideas or
suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks

Roy Beavers
Southern Methodist University
Dept. of Geological Sciences
Electron Microprobe Lab
P.O. Box 750395
Dallas, Tx 75275
voice: 214-768-2756
fax: 214-768-2701
E-mail: rbeavers-at-mail.smu.edu



From daemon Wed Jul 19 11:57:06 2000



From: mark.deal-at-eva-tone.com
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 11:44:28 -0500
Subject: AFM - measuring pit structure of CD and DVD

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Hello all,

I am in need of an AFM for the purpose of measuring the pit structure of
compact disc and DVD
stampers and replicas. I am considering a Q-Scope 350 from Quesant. I am
wondering if anyone
has any experience, good or bad, with this system or anything else from this
company. Also, I am
open to other suggestions if anyone has any.

Thank you,

Mark Deal
Mastering Engineering
Eva-Tone, Inc





From daemon Wed Jul 19 12:55:33 2000



From: Tindall, Randy D. :      TindallR-at-missouri.edu
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 12:45:58 -0500
Subject: Images of Zeolites

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When working with fly ash in the past, I would usually use a double-sticky
carbon tab on an SEM stub and press it down into the ash, then gently blow
off the loose particles with compressed air. Double-sided carbon tape would
probably work, although the tabs seem less likely to engulf very small
particles with excess adhesive.

Another alternative might be a product called "Mikrostik", a clear liquid
you paint onto a stub and which dries to a tacky finish. It's good for fine
particulates. It's available from Ted Pella (cat.no. 16033) and possibly
other places, as well. (No financial interest in Ted Pella here.)

A problem with fly ash is that it is difficult to avoid charging, since it's
basically a pile of spheres and irregularly shaped chunks in
not-very-continuous contact with each other. A low vacuum SEM makes this
much easier, but at the expense of high resolution. Try to blow off as many
particles as possible, so the ones left are in tight contact with the
adhesive. If that's not an option, you will have to coat your stub from
different angles, preferably on a tilting, rotating stage in the sputter
coater/vacuum evaporator.

Good luck,
Randy

Randy Tindall
EM Specialist
Electron Microscopy Core Facility
W122 Veterinary Medicine
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211
Tel: (573) 882-8304
Fax: (573) 884-5414
Email: tindallr-at-missouri.edu
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List,

I have a customer from the chemistry department that wants to obtain some
SEM images of zeolite crystals in a flyash material (fine grain powder). My
question is how to prep this material to get it into the probe? Any ideas or
suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks

Roy Beavers
Southern Methodist University
Dept. of Geological Sciences
Electron Microprobe Lab
P.O. Box 750395
Dallas, Tx 75275
voice: 214-768-2756
fax: 214-768-2701
E-mail: rbeavers-at-mail.smu.edu



From daemon Wed Jul 19 14:34:43 2000



From: Alfonso Goldschmidt :      agoldsch-at-cec.uchile.cl
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:23:59 -0400
Subject: Images of Zeolites

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When working with fly ash in the past, I would usually use a double-sticky
carbon tab on an SEM stub and press it down into the ash, then gently blow
off the loose particles with compressed air. Double-sided carbon tape would
probably work, although the tabs seem less likely to engulf very small
particles with excess adhesive.

Another alternative might be a product called "Mikrostik", a clear liquid
you paint onto a stub and which dries to a tacky finish. It's good for fine
particulates. It's available from Ted Pella (cat.no. 16033) and possibly
other places, as well. (No financial interest in Ted Pella here.)

A problem with fly ash is that it is difficult to avoid charging, since it's
basically a pile of spheres and irregularly shaped chunks in
not-very-continuous contact with each other. A low vacuum SEM makes this
much easier, but at the expense of high resolution. Try to blow off as many
particles as possible, so the ones left are in tight contact with the
adhesive. If that's not an option, you will have to coat your stub from
different angles, preferably on a tilting, rotating stage in the sputter
coater/vacuum evaporator.

Good luck,
Randy

Randy Tindall
EM Specialist
Electron Microscopy Core Facility
W122 Veterinary Medicine
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211
Tel: (573) 882-8304
Fax: (573) 884-5414
Email: tindallr-at-missouri.edu
Web: http://www.biotech.missouri.edu/emc/





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List,

I have a customer from the chemistry department that wants to obtain some
SEM images of zeolite crystals in a flyash material (fine grain powder). My
question is how to prep this material to get it into the probe? Any ideas or
suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks

Roy Beavers
Southern Methodist University
Dept. of Geological Sciences
Electron Microprobe Lab
P.O. Box 750395
Dallas, Tx 75275
voice: 214-768-2756
fax: 214-768-2701
E-mail: rbeavers-at-mail.smu.edu






From daemon Wed Jul 19 15:14:51 2000



From: Douglas Keene :      DRK-at-shcc.org
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 12:59:36 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
Subject: Coating of TEM viewing screens

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Does anyone have a positive experience getting a TEM
viewing screen re-coated? I've got a small focusing screen
for a Philips 410 , viewed with binoculars, that needs
re-coating with minimal grain size. If you have used a
vendor successfully, would you please forward their contact
information to me?

Thank you in advance,

Doug
----------------------
Douglas R. Keene
Associate Investigator
Shriners Hospital Research Facilities
3101 S.W. Sam Jackson Park Road
Portland, Oregon 97201
phone: 503-221-3434
FAX: 503-412-6894 (9-5 PST)
e-mail: DRK-at-shcc.org




From daemon Wed Jul 19 15:14:51 2000



From: Joyce Craig :      j-craig-at-csu.edu
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:59:39 -0500
Subject: boats for 6mm knives

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I used to buy boats from LKB for 6 mm knives. Now I can't locate LKB
and the other companies seem to sell only for larger knives. Does
anyone know where I can get boats for 6 mm knives? I really don't want
to go back to the tape method.
Thanks.
Joyce Craig
Chicago State University



From daemon Wed Jul 19 15:59:26 2000



From: diane.a.ciaburri-at-gdds.com
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 16:43:40 -0400
Subject: Summary - IC Deencapsulation (long)

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Here's the summary (long) for all those interested in deencapsulating plastic
encapsulated ICs. I have no prefferences as I haven't tried any yet, but
thought the fuming sulfuric acid might be 'fun'. Thanks again!

_______________________________________________________________________
********************************************************************************
********************

-- [ From: Garber, Charles A. * EMC.Ver #3.1 ] --

Hi Diane,

The way this is generally done is to mill the plastic down on a grinding
wheel to the point where only a fairly thin layer of plastic remains. Then,
using a plasma etcher, and a mixture of oxygen to CF4 (for example, 30%
oxygen/70% CF4), whereby the oxygen etches away the plastic and the CF4
etches away the glass frit that is usually found in the plastic, you can
remove the remaining plastic (package) without damaging the device itself.
Different people like to use different gas ratios, of course, and that is
probably a function, at least to some degree, of the concentration of glass
frit in their particular plastic.

The SPI Plasma Prep II unit, as shown on URL
http://www.2spi.com/catalog/instruments/etchers1.html in the world, is
probably the most widely used unit for doing this type of operation. It is
inexpensive and highly reliable, and requires virtually no maintenance.

Chuck
____________________________________________________________________________
********************************************************************************
***************************
The ion beam approach works well. I have not used it recently on finer pitch
ICs. With as-built feature sizes of 2-4u, it is fine. It will stop at the
passivation and leave the Al bond wires intact. The resulting package looks
like it has a V-shaped pit in it (which it does). The extent of the pit depends
on the size of the die and if you want to blast
down to the lead frame or substrate.

I have not done this on finer pitch devices. I would be a bit skeptical about
these mostly because of the smaller bond pads. The etching would still stop at
the passivation.

There are numerous places in Silicon Valley that do this on an outsource basis.
Typical costs are about $75 per IC. I can get some contacts for you if you'd
like.

gary g.
___________________________________________________________________________
********************************************************************************
*************************

Diane:  attached is a text document outlining the procedure my FA lab uses. 
Yellow fuming nitric is usually the acid of choice.   If you can get a few extra
parts to practice on, that would be best.  And you're right, plasma takes
FOREVER.    If I can be of any more help, please let me know.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Becky Holdford  (r-holdford-at-ti.com)
972-598-1291 (pager)
KFAB Physical Analysis Labs--SEM/FIB/FA
Kilby Center West
Texas Instruments, Inc.
Dallas, TX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


TOOLS, EQUIPMENT, & SUPPLIES
1. Milling machine and appropriate end mills
2. Stabilo SuperFine OH pen or equivalent
3. Fume hood properly equipped for exhausting acid fumes and solvent vapors (see
reference 3.4)
4. Explosion proof hot plate (see reference 3.4)
5. Ultrasonic cleaning apparatus
6. An optical microscope capable of 100X to 500X magnification, equipped with a
lighting system.
7. Chemical resistant latex gloves
8. Chemical resistant laboratory coat
9. Chemical resistant safety glasses (see reference 3.5)
10. Hand tools (tweezers, scalpels and etc.)
11. Plastic micro-pipette
12. Fuming red nitric acid
13. Yellow nitric acid
14. Methyl alcohol
15. Acetone


1. RECORDING OF PACKAGE MARKINGS
Record all of the device markings that are on the top and bottom sides of the
devices prior to starting any of the decap operations.
2. CAVITY MILLING
Determine the exact location of the chip within the package and mark the top of
the device package showing the chip perimeter, using a Stabilo SuperFine OH pen
and a straight edge. A SAM plot or X-ray image may
be used to help determine the exact location of the chip and also to determine
the thickness of the mold compound covering the chip.
Note: This should be done on devices having large chips. Devices with small
chips (less than 0.125 inches in their longest dimension) do not require this
step.
Mill a cavity out of the plastic package that is centered over the chip. The
size of the milled cavity should typically be .050 to .100 inches larger than
the length and width dimensions of the chip. The depth of the
milled cavity depends on the thickness of the mold compound and the location and
loop height of the bond wires. During the milling operation use a vacuum line to
pick up the loose plastic particles generated.
Caution: do not mill into the bond wires or the chip. Mill counter bores on
devices with chip dimensions greater than 0.400 inches on a side. These counter
bores should be made on one or more levels within the bond pad perimeter and at
the outermost corners of the cavity (this is necessary to facilitate etching of
the mold compound at the corners of the chip before the sides are exposed and
subsequent damage to the leadframe). Care must be taken during the milling
operation to avoid excessive pressure on the mill resulting in filler induced
damage to the chip P.O. The end mill should not bind, bend, or "smoke" during
the milling operation.
3. PACKAGE ETCHING
All etching must be performed in a chemical hood that meets the requirements
defined in references #.3 and
4.Heating of acid or device prior to application of acid must be done using an
explosion proof hot plate that meets the requirements of reference #4.
Obtain the appropriate acid for use on the mold compound being removed.
Following are the acids that have been identified for the removal of the various
mold compounds.
Mold Compound Acid/Temperature
Shinetsu Red fuming nitric acid at 140-150 degrees Celsius
Plascon & Sumitomo Red fuming or yellow nitric acid 140-150 degrees Celsius
Note: Fuming sulfuric acid reacts with exposed aluminum bond pad metallization
and may result in ball bond discontinuity thus hampering further analysis.

· When using red fuming nitric acid it may be helpful to start the etching
process using a mixture of red and yellow nitric acids in order to slow down the
etch process until a "residue crust" is formed over the cavity and then switch
to the red nitric acid.
· Apply the acid in drops using a plastic micro-pipette. The drops should be
placed in the center and at the corners of the cavity in approximately a 1:1
ratio.
· Allow the acid to react with the mold compound and form a crust of dissolved
compound. Caution: Do not allow the crust to dry out completely before adding
additional drops of acid.
· Remove the dissolved material using cotton swabs or by rinsing with acetone
when the dissolved materials threaten to spill over the cavity. Caution: Rinse
the device immediately with acetone if acid
spills onto the package pins.
· Soak the device in acetone for a minimum of 10 minutes, followed by a spray of
methanol to remove loose residue and to clean the residue from the cavity rim.
· Perform a thorough microscopic inspection to determine whether all necessary
areas of the chip are exposed.
· If dried mold compound residue persists on the chip surface, use the following
in the order shown to attempt removal:
· Solvent bath (such as methyl alcohol) in ultrasonic cleaner
· Several drops of room temperature fuming sulfuric acid applied to the chip
(with the chip at room temperature) for several seconds then rinse the device in
DI water.
· Several drops of fuming sulfuric acid applied to the chip with the chip on a
100 degree Celsius hot plate. Note: Fuming sulfuric acid will attack aluminum
bond pads and is therefore the method of last resort.

_____________________________________________________________________
*********************************************************************
Can't comment on sulfuric, but I have used red fuming nitric at near boiling
temperature. Apply acid, let react. Flush witn more acid, let react, etc.

Woody White

_______________________________________________________________________
***********************************************************************

Diane,
Yes, hot fuming sulfuric and/or hot fuming nitric are used as standard
procedures for removing plastic from IC's. The process is not quite that
simple. For example, water rinses will almost certainly etch the bond pads
on the IC and thus removing connection to the outside world. Additionally,
the plastic contains fire retardants which some regions don't like being
washed down the drain. There is more detailed help through EDFAS.org (one
of ASM's branches). B&G International sells a very safe, effective etcher
which performs decapsulation automatically in minutes.

I have no association with B&G International.

David Saxon
Analytical Microscope Services
11826 Reservoir Rd. E.
Puyallup, WA 98374
253-848-7701 voice & fax
email: info-at-analyticalmicroscope.com
website: www.analyticalmicroscope.com

_________________________________________________________________________
*************************************************************************
Diane,

I used to do failure analysis on semi conductor memories which were
starting to be made of plastic/epoxy with glass rods about 20 years ago.

I have some technics and possible help but its too much to write.
Basically you drill a small hole about 0.1" deep then heat the IC on a hot
plate and then you drop your acid to remove the plastic. I dont know
chemistry, I'm and Electronics Technician. I did this work with a meterial
sicentist, my mentor.
We used fumming sulfuric acid and fuimg nitric acid, also some type of
organic pink and blue solutions to stop some of the acids etching effect.

The company back then was Burroughs Corp. today is Unysis.

I presently work for the U S Department of Energy in New York City. My
phone number is 212 6203650, I'll be happy to walk through some ideas and
things I learned.

Regards
Peter Roiz
______________________________________________________________________
**********************************************************************

Perhaps it's time to comment on this thread.

Dichloromethane and dimethylformamide are relatively effective disrupters of
most epoxies but their action is accompanied by great swelling because the
polymer becomes engorged with the liquid before any significant solvation takes
place. This will destroy wire bonds on an IC.

Fuming (essentially anhydrous) sulfuric acid acts by the completely different
process of sulfonating reactive groups that remain on the polymer. The
depolymerized and sulfonated byproducts are quite soluble not only in the acid
but usually in water as well. The worst thing that you could do in this
relatively straightforward process is to wash with water at intervals because
this would initiate almost instantaneous corrosion. It would be advisable for a
chemist, as someone trained in the handling
of reactive materials, to carry this out or at least to establish procedures and
train others with less experience. The action of sulfuric acid in this regard
is quite different than that of nitric. Nearly anhydrous nitric acid
(completely anhydrous is extremely difficult to prepare) is a very powerful
oxidizer and could lead to unstable, dangerous byproducts whereas the sulfonates
resulting from the sulfuric acid reaction are relatively stable. Water must, of
course, be prevented from splashing into any concentrated acid, especially
sulfuric.

A very strong acid such as sulfuric behaves completely differently in the
absence of water. Since most acids are highly hygroscopic and are sold as water
solutions, most people do not observe this other side of their behavior.
Without water to create an ionized electrolyte, corrosion of metals will not
take place. I have de-encapsulated ICs for failure analysis in 200 degree
sulfuric acid and been able to operate the IC
without replacing the .001" aluminum wirebonds that it came with. I recall one
instance where our company built prototype hybrid microelectronic circuits out
of such de-encapsulated ICs when their supplier was late getting a new design on
the market and the only ones available were already encapsulated.

The key is to realize that water must be excluded until the sulfonating acid has
been completely rinsed away by a non-aqueous liquid. As Mr. Saxon said, there
are simple and safe devices available for doing this operation. However, with
proper care and protective gear it can be done in a beaker on a hot plate in a
fume hood. A few ml.s of sulfuric acid are heated to drive off water until
heavy vapors are observed over the liquid (which may darken during heating due
to trace impurities). The IC is carefully lowered into the hot acid and a
vigorous reaction ensues with the epoxy
almost instantly washing into the solution. After a few seconds the IC is then
quickly lifted out and held over a receiving vessel and flooded with a stream of
ethanol. Only after this is a final rinse in deionized water carried out,
followed by fresh electronic grade ethanol and forced drying in warm air.

The ready made devices which carry out the operation are typically a small bowl
with a hinged lid from which air is withdrawn by a gentle vacuum. An inert
metal feeder tube leads from a heated reservoir for the sulfuric acid and passes
through the wall of the bowl to a position where the encapsulated device is
secured. When the lid is closed and the slight vacuum applied, the hot acid is
pulled into the bowl over the device. It is somewhat self-limiting in that, if
the lid is opened, there is no driving force to bring more acid into the
container. Naturally, the vacuum source needs to be protected by a trap and all
waste products properly handled no matter how the procedure is carried out.

John Twilley
Conservation Scientist
(formerly, Manager of the Reliability Analysis Center,
Teledyne Microelectronics)




From daemon Wed Jul 19 16:44:55 2000



From: jmkrupp-at-cats.ucsc.edu (Jon Krupp)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:35:46 -0700
Subject: Prelim. Announc.: EM Tech

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Hi:

I have been asked to pass the word on a possible upcoming EM Tech. position
at UC Santa Cruz.

The position has not yet been formalized but will involve doing biological
TEM in the lab of Yishi Jin, a recently funded Howard Hughs investigator.
Jin does serial sectioning of C. elegans and needs someone who is familiar
with the trials and tribulations of biological TEM and would be willing to
see this position as a longer term commitment.

The exact job description and salary etc. have not been set. It will
probably be a Hughs title with some EM experience required, probably not
more than a BA needed, experience and trainability might count more than
degrees.

Be aware that the cost of living in Santa Cruz is significantly higher than
most places in the US.

If you would like more information regarding this position when it finally
materializes, please send me your contact information and I will see that
you get the announcement.

Jonathan Krupp
Microscopy & Imaging Lab
University of California
Santa Cruz, CA 95064
(831) 459-2477
jmkrupp-at-cats.ucsc.edu




From daemon Wed Jul 19 18:23:14 2000



From: Christoph Wittig :      Christoph.Wittig-at-iw.uni-halle.de
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 1:15:23 METDST
Subject: Re: AFM - measuring pit structure

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Dear Mark,

I have imaged replicas from compact discs an CD-R without any
problems using Multimode and D3000 (both in contact mode)
from di, for Measuring the dimensions of the pits (height, width...)
this technique is also very useful. Other AFM should work in
the same manner.

Hope this helps,

Christoph



From daemon Wed Jul 19 19:43:59 2000



From: John F. Mansfield :      jfmjfm-at-engin.umich.edu
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 20:33:10 -0400
Subject: Hotel Rooms in Philly

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Those of you who are still waiting for accommodation in Philadelphia
and who are appalled at the room rates might like to know about the
Windsor Hotel (A Big Ten Discounted Hotel, which is how Iknow about
it). http://www.windsorhotel.com/
Rooms are $119 per night and they have availability for the week we
are at the M&M conference. Just a little info. to save a little
money!

It is 5 blocks from the convention center. Check out the map at:
http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?BFCat=&Pyt=Tmap&newFL=Use+Address+Below&addr=1700+Benjamin+Franklin+Parkway&csz=Philadelphia%2C+PA%2C+19103&country=us&Get%07Map=Get+Map
This is no worse that the Wyndham which is about 6 blocks away.

Hope this is useful to someone.

Cheers Jfm.
--

Dr. John Mansfield CPhys MInstP
North Campus Electron Microbeam Analysis Laboratory
417 SRB, University of Michigan
2455 Hayward, Ann Arbor MI 48109-2143
Phone: (734) 936-3352 FAX (734) 763-2282
Cellular Phone: (734) 358-7555
(Leaving a phone message at 936-3352 is preferable to 358-7555)
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Location: Lat. 42° 16' 48" Long. 83° 43' 48"


From daemon Thu Jul 20 04:35:02 2000



From: Robert H. Olley :      r.h.olley-at-reading.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:18:04 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Explosive chloroform-acetone as alt. to dichloroethane

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In looking for a substitute for dichlorethane, there is another hazard.
Chloroform-acetone mixtures can be explosive, especially where even traces
of base (in the glass of the container, even) might generate
dichlorocarbene, leading to a runaway reaction leading to an explosion.
Storage in particular is out of the question, and we always make sure that
these two do not share the same waste bottle.

I asked our Head of Chemical Safety, and he tells me that the use of this
mixture was specifically discontinued round about 1975, when he was doing
his exams. I also remember reading about this in "Chemistry in Britain"
long ago, but this was certainly before 1981, which is as far back as our
literature database goes.

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From daemon Thu Jul 20 05:37:18 2000



From: Loukie Adlem :      ladlem-at-csir.co.za
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 12:25:24 +0200
Subject: SEM/EDS: performance monitoring

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Hi Collegues

For our quality system, I need to get a process going whereby I can monitor the performance of our SEM/EDS system over a period of time. Things that I am doing are e.g. resolution tests, checking the EDS calibration and so on.

I would really appreciate input from you and methods/checks you have found that work.

If this has been discussed before, maybe give me a pointer to when, so I can search the archives more effectively.

Regards
Loukie






Loukie Adlem
CSIR-NML
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Fax: +27 012 841 2646
ladlem-at-csir.co.za
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From daemon Thu Jul 20 06:49:16 2000



From: Jeannie Weakliem :      jeannie-at-pgt.com
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 08:23:44 -0400
Subject: RE: Hotel Rooms in Philly

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LKB was eaten by Leica. But the Trufs are still available through
your Leica dealer. 3 sizes, I believe.

See also Pelco GKB for 6.4 mm glass from Ted Pella's web site
http://www.tedpella.com/glass_html/glassacc.htm

PELCO® Glass Knife Boat GKB
123-3 pkg/100 usd14.00
123-3 pkg/300 usd36.12

Date sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:59:39 -0500
} From: Joyce Craig {j-craig-at-csu.edu}
Send reply to: j-craig-at-csu.edu
Organization: Chicago State University
To: microscopy listserver {microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com}


Another option for hotels in Philly is the Hilton Garden Center located at
the convention center. I was able to get rates of $104/night through
travelocity.



The Microscopy Society of America


Those of you who are still waiting for accommodation in Philadelphia
and who are appalled at the room rates might like to know about the
Windsor Hotel (A Big Ten Discounted Hotel, which is how Iknow about
it). http://www.windsorhotel.com/
Rooms are $119 per night and they have availability for the week we
are at the M&M conference. Just a little info. to save a little
money!

It is 5 blocks from the convention center. Check out the map at:
http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?BFCat=&Pyt=Tmap&newFL=Use+Address+Below
&addr=1700+Benjamin+Franklin+Parkway&csz=Philadelphia%2C+PA%2C+19103&cou
ntry=us&Get%07Map=Get+Map
This is no worse that the Wyndham which is about 6 blocks away.

Hope this is useful to someone.

Cheers Jfm.
--

Dr. John Mansfield CPhys MInstP
North Campus Electron Microbeam Analysis Laboratory
417 SRB, University of Michigan
2455 Hayward, Ann Arbor MI 48109-2143
Phone: (734) 936-3352 FAX (734) 763-2282
Cellular Phone: (734) 358-7555
(Leaving a phone message at 936-3352 is preferable to 358-7555)
Email: jfmjfm-at-engin.umich.edu
URL: http://emalwww.engin.umich.edu/people/jfmjfm/jfmjfm.html
Location: Lat. 42? 16' 48" Long. 83? 43' 48"



From daemon Thu Jul 20 08:06:44 2000



From: Gokula Kannan :      gkanna01-at-bcuc.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 07:52:28 -0500
Subject: listserver enquiry

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Dear All,
I am a first year Ph.D student in Entomology at FPRC, Buckinghamshire
college, UK. My project is got to compare the gut structure of several
Cerambycid woodborers and their relevance in taxonomy.
I have given some of the wood borers which I am gonna work with. Can any
one tell me of which fixative( with its chemical constituents) will be
the best for me to use on for each beetles in order to get best
results?????

Hylecoetus dermestoides
Lymexylon navale
(The above two species belongs to Lymexylidae but are closely related
to the
family cleridae).
Nacerdes melanura (oedemeridae), Rhagonycha fulva (oedemeridae?),
Phymatodes testaceus
Hylotrupes bajulus , Stromatium barbatum ( both species belongs to
cerambycidae-subfamily: cerambycinae).

Thanks,

Yours truly,
Gokula kannan.




From daemon Thu Jul 20 08:07:25 2000



From: Mark Sanders :      msanders-at-biosci.cbs.umn.edu
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 07:54:34 -0500
Subject: alginate stain

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Does anyone know of a fluorescent or light microscope stain for alginate?
Thanks in advance.
MS





From daemon Thu Jul 20 08:26:41 2000



From: Karen Rethoret :      rethoret-at-yorku.ca
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:16:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Carbon evaporator req'd Toronto Area

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We urgently require a carbon evaporator capable of shadowing. If anyone in
this area has surplus equipment they would like to sell/unload, please
contact me off-line.

Thanks,

Karen Rethoret
Biology Department
Microscopy Laboratory
York University, Toronto
416-736-2100 x33289




From daemon Thu Jul 20 09:30:59 2000



From: diane.a.ciaburri-at-gdds.com
Date: 7/17/00 10:57 AM
Subject: Subsurface crack shapes and light basics

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Robin,

I've done this before and it works very well. It is important to make sure that
the dye is completely dry before opening the crack. Otherwise, the dye will
creep across your surface of interest (yes, I've done that).

The materials we've used are from Magnaflux's Zyglo line: www.magnaflux.com

They can probably help with selection of materials and drying requirements.

These chemicals are typically used for liquid penetrant testing of materials as
a nondestructive method of finding cracks and surface discontinuities. The
general procedure includes 1)surface cleaning, 2)application of the dye for a
prescribed period of time, 3)cleaning the dye from the surface (but not out of
cracks), 4)applying a 'developer' to the surface to draw the dye out of the
cracks, and 5)examination under a black light.

Since you want to look at the opened cracks, the developer step probably won't
be appropriate.

The dye has a low viscosity and low surface tension so it will creep into cracks
well, but to improve on this, you might want to pressurize a submersed specimen
to about 2 atm. Or possibly drawing a vacuum on a submersed specimen would pull
out bubbles trapped in the cracks.

The light used for fluorescent liquid penetrant testing is typically a black
light consisting of a current regulating transformer, a mercury arc bulb and a
deep red-purple filter (for safety and to pass appropriate wavelengths). This
is a fairly common type of industrial black light. The light is supposed to
produce an intensity of at least 800 microwatts per square cm at the test
surface. I use one of these black lights with my stereomicroscope (not attached
to the microscope - just next to it).

Hope this helps.

Diane Ciaburri
General Dynamics
Pittsfield MA 01210
diane.a.ciaburri-at-gdds.com
(413)494-2847


____________________Reply Separator____________________

Help!

I have a professor here that wants to determine the subsurface crack shape
in a ceramic by placing a drop of fluorescent dye-penetrant onto
indentations. The cracks are forced open after the dye is allowed to
penetrate and the pre-existing crack area will be covered with dye
penetrant. Our reference says to use external ultraviolet illumination in
an optical microscope to distinguish the pre-cracked area.

It is my understanding that we will need a mercury vapor light and a
fluorescent dye penetrant that is made for weld crack detection. Why do I
need a mercury vapor light? Where would I find out about the basics of this
technique? Will I also need some sort of filter for the microscope?

Has anyone out there done something similar? What supplies and microscope
attachments did they use?

Thanks,

Robin D. Griffin
UAB



From daemon Thu Jul 20 10:29:02 2000



From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 11:08:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Formvar & 1,2 dichloroethane

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Warren E Straszheim wrote:

} On the side, I had a chemist tell me some years back that the reason that
} chloroform got a bad rap was because of the minute amounts of carbon
} tetrachloride that were almost inevitably present. He said chloroform was
} not so bad in its purest form. Any comments?
}

Dear Warren,
I looked up the three compounds--CCl4, CHCl3, and (CH2Cl)2--
in the Merck Index (11th Edition). CCl4 is the worst: "Poisoning by
inhalation, ingestion or skin absorption", followed by a list of nasty
symptoms; CHCl3 is not nearly as bad; however, "Inhalation of large
doses may cause hypotension, respiratory and myocardial depression
and death. Banned by FDA from use in drug, cosmetic and food pack-
aging products in 1976.", although it was in use in cough syrups and
throat lozenges before that; (CH2Cl)2 does not have a section on Human
Toxicity, but under Caution, "Vapors may produce irritation of respira-
tory tract and conjunctiva, corneal clouding, CNS depression, liver and
kidney impairment." All three "may reasonably be anticipated to be
carcinogenic." The 12th edition lists fewer symptoms for (CH2Cl)2
and CHCl3 and does not have a Human Toxicity section for CCl4,
although the same quotation and nasty symptoms are listed in the
Caution section.
I'm sure from the above that CCl4 impurities in CHCl3 would
make it much more toxic, but CHCl3 is not innocuous. Of course, all
these compounds should be used in a hood.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




From daemon Thu Jul 20 11:06:26 2000



From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 11:45:51 -0400
Subject: Re: SEM/EDS: performance monitoring

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Loukie Adlem wrote:

} For our quality system, I need to get a process going whereby I can monitor the performance of our SEM/EDS system over a period of time. Things that I am doing are e.g. resolution tests, checking the EDS calibration and so on.
}
} I would really appreciate input from you and methods/checks you have found that work.
}

Dear Loukie,
Resolution tests for Si(Li) detectors--the usual ~145 eV resolution
EDS detector--are done with the Mn K-alpha line, so evaporating Mn on
a formvar grid, placing it in the scope, and measuring the FWHM of the
peak will give you the resolution of your system. Using a 55Fe source with
the detector not mounted in the scope will test the resolution of the crystal
apart from noise introduced by the scope, e-beam, etc. If these two mea-
surements differ, and the resolution from the latter measurement is OK,
then the detector is OK, but something in the probe system is lowering the
resolution. I use Al evaporated onto a formvar-coated Cu grid for calibra-
tion. I set up the conditions such that I get roughly equal count rates from
Al and Cu K-alpha lines by putting the beam near a grid bar and tweaking
the appropriate adjustments on the analyser according to the manual.
The software for all these measurements was included in the
analyser we bought nearly 20 years ago, and, I'm sure, is included in every
system now on the market. These checks take ~10 min each at most.
Yours,
Bill Tivol



From daemon Thu Jul 20 11:40:36 2000



From: Winton Cornell :      winton-cornell-at-utulsa.edu
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 11:20:01 -0500
Subject: distinguishing polymer beads and "attached" microorganisms - HOW?

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Microscopists:

A post-doc in our Chemical Engineering department came to me with
this need - to quote:

"Is there a way to distinguish between white polymer "buds" and
microorganisms in a black-and-white SEM picture at a magnification of
8000X ? Both the cultured "bugs" and "buds" have the same size,
shape, and appearance in/on spherical carbon/polymer beads that are
sliced in half, fixed, mounted, and then viewed under the SEM".

As you can see, it would appear that the polymer beads have surface
textures/features ("buds") that are of comparable "shape" and "size"
to the microorganisms cultured on the surface of the beads. I have
yet to see the photos, so I can not comment on just what he is, or is
not, seeing. The sample prep, as I understand it (never having done
it!):

1. fixation in 1% glutaraldehyde with 0.1 molar cacodylate (excuse
any misspellings)
2. post-fix of 1% osmium tetroxide in 0.1 molar cacodylate
3. dehydration in ethanol
4. critical point drying
5. sputter coating

(whew!.....a lot more complicated than powder on a carbon sticky tab!!)

So, based on this information, can any of you suggest a/other
(pre-SEM) processing technique(s) (stains?) that he and our
microscopist (in the Biology department) might utilize to help
"differentiate" these "buds" from the cultured microorganisms?

Winton

PS: you can direct your feedback to me or the listserv - in either
case I will compile the responses and have them available should any
of you out there have need for them

PS #2: I have an SEM too, with a Be-windowed EDX detector (= no
light-element detection)


--

Winton C. Cornell, Ph.D.
Department of Geosciences
The University of Tulsa
Tulsa, OK 74104
phone: 918-631-3248
fax: 918-631-2091

e-mail: winton-cornell-at-utulsa.edu



From daemon Thu Jul 20 11:43:29 2000



From: wft03-at-health.state.ny.us
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 12:28:01 -0400
Subject: Re: Coating of TEM viewing screens

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Does anyone have a positive experience getting a TEM
viewing screen re-coated? I've got a small focusing screen
for a Philips 410 , viewed with binoculars, that needs
re-coating with minimal grain size. If you have used a
vendor successfully, would you please forward their contact
information to me?


Dear Doug,

Some years ago we had a very good experience with Grant

Scientific. We talked to Dana Dunkelberger; his phone # then was

(803) 892-2841--I'd make it better than even that the area code

has been changed. We sent him blanks for both standard high-

brightness and high-resolution focussing screens and have been

using them ever since. The quality is excellent and the prices were

OK at several hundred dollars each screen. I also have a procedure

we have used to coat screens ourselves. Other than as a satisfied

customer, I have no relationship with Grant Scientific.

Yours,

Bill Tivol




From daemon Thu Jul 20 11:59:09 2000



From: John F. Mansfield :      jfmjfm-at-engin.umich.edu
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 12:54:09 -0400
Subject: Ion Miller Service

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} From: "Tindall, Randy D." {TindallR-at-missouri.edu}
To: "'Beavers, Roy'" {rbeavers-at-post.cis.smu.edu}
Copies to: "'microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com'"
{microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com}


Please reply to: kimwin-at-eecs.umich.edu

A colleague of mine (Kim Winnick) has a ion miller that needs service
and I was wondering if anyone knows of any service organization that
could help him out.

Ion Mill System Description:
Manufactured by CVC
(Commonwealth Scientific Corp):
Millatron IV G Ion Beam Source
with a Millatron 400 Power Supply,
an ID-3500 Beam Controller and
a Single Wafer Load Lock Assembly.

ADVThanksANCE

Cheers
Jfm.

--

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From daemon Thu Jul 20 13:01:52 2000



From: Steven Slap :      SSlap-at-ebsciences.com
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:49:27 -0400
Subject: boats for 6mm knives

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Dear Joyce and fellow microscopists,

LKB is now part of Leica and the 6mm (actually, they're 6.4mm) boats or
"Trufs" are available from Leica distributors like ourselves in cases of
500, part #16840042.

Best regards,
Steven Slap

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-----Original Message-----
} From: Joyce Craig [SMTP:j-craig-at-csu.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 4:00 PM
To: microscopy listserver


I used to buy boats from LKB for 6 mm knives. Now I can't locate LKB
and the other companies seem to sell only for larger knives. Does
anyone know where I can get boats for 6 mm knives? I really don't want
to go back to the tape method.
Thanks.
Joyce Craig
Chicago State University




From daemon Thu Jul 20 13:45:26 2000



From: Thomas, Tami/SEA :      tthomas-at-ch2m.com
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 12:33:08 -0600
Subject: SEM/EDX Mapping - What is accuracy and why does area% not equal 1

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I am a student with a great deal of SEM-EDX mapping data that was obtained
on an Amray 1830 SEM with a Noran Pioneer Series II x-ray analyzer with
micro-Z detector. I am trying to use this data to look at the differences
between uranium precipitates obtained in a batch study with apatite
(Ca5(PO4)3(F,OH)) and potassium. I'm getting interesting trends based on
the area% association of U-Ca-K-P and pH. However, there is a huge
difference between the sum of all of the area%s reported for a given sample
(which includes a "no element" area%). The total summed area % for these
sample/scans ranges from 20% to 87%. The elemental analyses of these
precipitates indicated that most (97 to 99.9 wt%) of any given sample was
made up of U, K, Ca, and P.
Can anyone explain to me what it means when the total area% of all of the
possible associations mapped sums to much less than 100%? What are the
possible differences between samples or scans that sum to near 100% and
those that sum to 20%?
Tami Thomas - tthomas-at-ch2m.com -


From daemon Thu Jul 20 15:38:12 2000



From: Caroline Schooley :      schooley-at-mcn.org
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:26:08 -0700
Subject: Micrographs needed

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Please reply directly;Somayyah is not on this listserver.

} Fabian-Baber is a small production and communication company in Primos,
} Pennsylvania that creates educational materials. We are currently producing
} a ten-part video series for middle school children on the human body, which
} includes segments such as The Brain & Nervous System, Cells, Genes &
} Heredity, The Immune System, etc. We have just begun an arduous search for
} a broad variety of interesting, creative, and dynamic images and animations
} of the inside of the human body.
} One of the things we are looking for are images using a variety of
} microscopy techniques, both still and moving, of any aspect of the human
} body. As we are a small company which produces only educational material,
} our budget is fairly modest, however we still strive to produce high quality
} material. Thus we are looking for images donated by researchers and
} research institutions. Donors of course will be acknowledged in the
} credits. If necessary, we do have some funds allotted for obtaining images
} and footage for this series.
} If you are interested in helping this project or learning more about it,
} please get in touch with me, Somayyah, at the contact listed below. I would
} be most appreciative of any assistance you could offer. Thank you in
} advance for your time and attention.
}
} Somayyah Siddiqi
} Fabian-Baber Communications, Inc.
} 525 Mildred Ave.
} Primos, PA 19018
} e-mail: sam-at-fabian-baber.com
} phone: 610 623 7812
} fax: 610 623 8970

Caroline Schooley
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Intertidal invertebrates: http://www.fortbragg.k12.ca.us/AG/marinelab.html




From daemon Thu Jul 20 18:29:54 2000



From: richard black :      m02jmy00-at-cwcom.net
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 00:12:50 +0100
Subject: Film Scanners

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Hello,
Can anyone out there help me. I am not sure if this is the right forum
for this question.
I am still looking for a film scanner for 4X5 film. The work is mainly
technical macro work in the magnification range 1X to 50X, the subject
matter being mainly aero engine parts. We have decided that we do not
need more than about 1000dpi as most of our scans will be at about
300dpi as the prints are for reports and are rarely enlarged. So far I
have seen good reports on the Microtek and the Agfa Duoscan. Any
comments and also any comments on others such as the Umax Powerlook 3 or
the Epson would be welcome.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Cheers Richard Black



From daemon Thu Jul 20 18:30:27 2000



From: cresponc-at-moffitt.usf.edu ()
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 18:17:34 -0500
Subject: fluorescence microscopy course?

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Email: cresponc-at-moffitt.usf.edu
Name: Nichole Crespo
School: University of South Florida

Question: I have a little experience with fluorescence microscopy and am
looking for a good course (a week or so) on fluorescent microscopy
techniques (fixation, confocal microscopy, etc.) Know of any?

Thanks!

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From: Kristen Lennon :      kalen-at-citrus.ucr.edu
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 17:25:45 -0700
Subject: fluorescence mounting medium

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Hi Knowledgeable Ones,
A few weeks ago I sent in a question regarding problems a colleague of
mine had been having with Vectashield and autofluorescence on tissue that
had been labeled with a secondary antibody conjugated to FITC, and received
many emails of support and suggestions. For anyone curious, the theme was
two part. The first thing to try was a new mounting medium. Secondly a
different fluorophore (especially favoured was Alexa 488). Thanks to all of
you who responded.
Here's the question. We decided to try a different mounting medium,
specifically Citifluor. Moments before I sat down to write this, there was
a small scream of exasperation from the microscope area as my colleague
noticed that what she had just used was Citifluor non-fluorescent immersion
oil. We quickly looked up its specifications in the catalog, and its
usefulness in this application is still nebulous. Does anyone have any
thoughts/advice?
Thanks again,
Kristen
Kristen A. Lennon
Cell, Molecular & Developmental Biology Group
Department of Botany & Plant Sciences
University of California
Riverside, CA 92521
kalen-at-citrus.ucr.edu



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From: Djemge-at-aol.com
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From daemon Thu Jul 20 21:53:43 2000



From: jim :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 11:39:32 +1000
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There is a complex interaction between the beam and the specimen. Usually
standardisation is performed in spot mode or by simply selecting the highest
magnification buttons. If you repeat the standardisation on a homogeneous
standard using a lower magnification your results will be different to a spot
analyses. There are many reasons including: the spatial resolution for your
atomic number specimen (using a spot) will be several micrometers in area, so
the area analysed is not the actual. Furthermore, the beam deflection system
does not necessarily deliver the same number of electrons at various
magnifications, there will for instances be different losses at the apertures.
To do area analyses you would at least need to also standardise using the same
area.
Cheers
Jim Darley
ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS
PO Box 111, Thuringowa QLD 4817 Australia
Ph +61 7 4774 0370 Fax:+61 7 4789 2313 service-at-proscitech.com
Great microscopy catalogue, 500 Links, MSDS, User Notes
ABN: 99 724 136 560 www.proscitech.com

On Friday, July 21, 2000 4:33 AM, Thomas, Tami/SEA [SMTP:tthomas-at-ch2m.com]
wrote:
}
}
} I am a student with a great deal of SEM-EDX mapping data that was obtained
} on an Amray 1830 SEM with a Noran Pioneer Series II x-ray analyzer with
} micro-Z detector. I am trying to use this data to look at the differences
} between uranium precipitates obtained in a batch study with apatite
} (Ca5(PO4)3(F,OH)) and potassium. I'm getting interesting trends based on
} the area% association of U-Ca-K-P and pH. However, there is a huge
} difference between the sum of all of the area%s reported for a given sample
} (which includes a "no element" area%). The total summed area % for these
} sample/scans ranges from 20% to 87%. The elemental analyses of these
} precipitates indicated that most (97 to 99.9 wt%) of any given sample was
} made up of U, K, Ca, and P.
} Can anyone explain to me what it means when the total area% of all of the
} possible associations mapped sums to much less than 100%? What are the
} possible differences between samples or scans that sum to near 100% and
} those that sum to 20%?
} Tami Thomas - tthomas-at-ch2m.com -



From daemon Fri Jul 21 05:33:25 2000



From: Gordon Couger :      gcouger-at-couger.com
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 04:04:41 -0500
Subject: Ramam Spectrometer

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This equipment in almost new condition. If some one needs this it is in
vary good shape.

I was helping Bob Taig sort out a Raman Spectrometer. It uses a 4 or 5
watt laser(tunable I think but I am not sure) and a frequency doubler
through a 1 meter long 4 reflector monocromater with a cooled detector and
cooled photomultliplier. It uses an Olympus BH2 microscope with
transparent and opaque lighting and 100 X.95, 50x.80 and 5X.13 Plan
objectives. The microscope has 4 stages and a flip top 1.3 condenser.

It was removed from a working lab when the entire lab was dismantled. It
is in almost new condition. The plastic covering on the microscope stage
is still attached and almost perfect. This is normally discarded at
installation. It was billed in February of 1988 for a little over a
quarter million dollars.

It is marked Yobin Yvon and Mole systems.

It appears to work by sending the laser into the monocromater and into the
microscope and the light is reflected off the sample back out the same
path as it came in and is split off in the monocromater to the detector.

It a appears all MSDOS computers, software and documentation is intact.
The only thing we could find missing was the video camera that mounted on
the microscope and the table that held the monocromater and microscope
above the laser and the mirrors and lenses that manipulated the light from
what came out of the laser to what the moncromater needed.. The Microscope
is set up to feed directly into a video camera. A binocular head could be
used if some one wanted to set it manually insted of remotely.

There is a lot of very nice equipment here if someone has a use for it. It
has some very nice hardware for a optical bench.

If you are interested contact Bob Taig : 580-765-9727
ustrade-at-fullnet.net The equipment is located at Ponca City Oklahoma.

I have some pictures I will have up tomorrow at
http://www.couger.com/gcouger/raman/

Gordon
Gordon Couger gcouger-at-couger.com
Stillwater, OK www.couger.com/gcouger
405 624-2855 GMT -6:00






From daemon Fri Jul 21 08:19:06 2000



From: Huggins, Bradley J :      HUGGINBJ-at-bp.com
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 08:06:28 -0500
Subject: RE: Images of Zeolites

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Randy and Kent
I also use the double sticky (conductive) tape procedure to mount zeolites
and fly ash specimens. The only additional caution I would add, is to avoid
blowing the specimen across the stub. Because of the significant difference
in shape/size of the zeolite crystals and the fly ash agglomerates, you may
change the distribution of the particles in the specimen that you examine.
For example, if bigger less dense flocs of fly ash exist, they may readily
blow away. Rather than blowing onto the stub, I try to get several
representative micro samplings and disperse those across the tape surface,
and then blow away the excess to achieve a "mono-layer" of particles.
Good Luck,
Brad

} ----------
} From: Kent Hampton[SMTP:khampton-at-oz.oznet.ksu.edu]
} Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 11:44 AM
} To: Tindall, Randy D.
} Cc: 'microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com'
} Subject: RE: Images of Zeolites
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} Here, we routinely work with starches and do so in a similar
} manner. Regular double sided tapes works fine for us. To help get
} some area with a "mono-layer" of particles we use a spatula to
} place a small pile of the powder on one edge on the stub and then
} blow across the stub spreading the powder.
} }
} } When working with fly ash in the past, I would usually use a
} double-sticky
} } carbon tab on an SEM stub and press it down into the ash, then gently
} blow
} } off the loose particles with compressed air. Double-sided carbon tape
} would
} } probably work, although the tabs seem less likely to engulf very small
} } particles with excess adhesive.
} }
} } Another alternative might be a product called "Mikrostik", a clear
} liquid
} } you paint onto a stub and which dries to a tacky finish. It's good for
} fine
} } particulates. It's available from Ted Pella (cat.no. 16033) and
} possibly
} } other places, as well. (No financial interest in Ted Pella here.)
} }
} } A problem with fly ash is that it is difficult to avoid charging, since
} it's
} } basically a pile of spheres and irregularly shaped chunks in
} } not-very-continuous contact with each other. A low vacuum SEM makes
} this
} } much easier, but at the expense of high resolution. Try to blow off as
} many
} } particles as possible, so the ones left are in tight contact with the
} } adhesive. If that's not an option, you will have to coat your stub from
} } different angles, preferably on a tilting, rotating stage in the sputter
} } coater/vacuum evaporator.
} }
} } Good luck,
} } Randy
} }
} } Randy Tindall
} } EM Specialist
} } Electron Microscopy Core Facility
} } W122 Veterinary Medicine
} } University of Missouri
} } Columbia, MO 65211
} } Tel: (573) 882-8304
} } Fax: (573) 884-5414
} } Email: tindallr-at-missouri.edu
} } Web: http://www.biotech.missouri.edu/emc/
} }
} }
} }
} }
} }
} } -----Original Message-----
} } } From: Beavers, Roy [mailto:rbeavers-at-post.cis.smu.edu]
} } Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 10:49 AM
} } To: 'Microscopy Listserver'; Microprobe List (E-mail)
} } Subject: Images of Zeolites
} }
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} } List,
} }
} } I have a customer from the chemistry department that wants to obtain
} some
} } SEM images of zeolite crystals in a flyash material (fine grain powder).
} My
} } question is how to prep this material to get it into the probe? Any
} ideas or
} } suggestions would be appreciated.
} }
} } Thanks
} }
} } Roy Beavers
} } Southern Methodist University
} } Dept. of Geological Sciences
} } Electron Microprobe Lab
} } P.O. Box 750395
} } Dallas, Tx 75275
} } voice: 214-768-2756
} } fax: 214-768-2701
} } E-mail: rbeavers-at-mail.smu.edu
} }
} }
} }
}
}
} Kent Hampton
}
}
} Department of Entomology
} khampton-at-oz.oznet.ksu.edu
} Phone: 785 532-4746
}


From daemon Fri Jul 21 08:19:07 2000



From: Nazlia Samodien :      ctssamodien-at-samiot.uct.ac.za
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 08:03:00 -0500
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We purchased a new 15cm diam. screen a year ago from the Electron Optics
division of Phillips S.A for about R12000. They had quoted an amount of
around R13500 for having our phospherous screen resurfaced. This amount
probably included the shipping of the screen to and from the Phillips
agents. Obviously, from South Africa everything appears to escalate, the
further across the ocean we go, due to our exchange rates.
However, since then, an American based company (Sorry I don't have the
name) has taken over Phillips and Zeiss has been given the contract for the
service of the equipment.
Just something to consider before you make your decision.
Nazlia


_____________________________________________________

Nazlia Samodien

Cardiovascular Research Unit
Dept. of Cardiothoracic Surgery
University of Cape Town Medical School
Anzio Rd, Observatory, 7925, South Africa

Tel. +27 21 406 6398 (office)
+27 21 406 6476 (Secretary)
Fax + 27 21 448 5935


Email: ctssamodien-at-samiot.uct.ac.za




From daemon Fri Jul 21 08:23:46 2000



From: William H Roberts :      William.H.Roberts-at-usa.dupont.com
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 08:11:02 -0500
Subject: Plasma Etcher Repair

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I have a March Plasmod (Plasma Etcher) which no longer produces the rf
needed to generate the plasma. Does anyone have a surplus/broken/obsolete
unit that could possibly still have operable electronics that they want to
get rid of? I'd like to try to repair mine before declaring it junk. (if
it can't be repaired economically, perhaps someone will need the parts on
it that are still good.)




From daemon Fri Jul 21 08:26:43 2000



From: ay813-at-chebucto.ns.ca ()
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 08:14:13 -0500
Subject: books on LM

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Email: ay813-at-chebucto.ns.ca
Name: Robert Harnum

Question: 1. Which books do you recommend that a person new to light
microscopes read regarding the use and care of light microscopes? I cannot
find very much about the care of light microscopes. I want to look at
bacteria.

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From daemon Fri Jul 21 09:11:03 2000



From: Nazlia Samodien :      ctssamodien-at-samiot.uct.ac.za
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 15:51:18 +0200
Subject: Coating of TEM viewing screens

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We purchased a new 15cm diam. screen a year ago from the Electron Optics
division of Phillips S.A for about R12000. They had quoted an amount of
around R13500 for having our phospherous screen resurfaced. This amount
probably included the shipping of the screen to and from the Phillips
agents. Obviously, from South Africa everything appears to escalate, the
further across the ocean we go, due to our exchange rates.
However, since then, an American based company (Sorry I don't have the
name) has taken over Phillips and Zeiss has been given the contract for the
service of the equipment.
Just something to consider before you make your decision.
Nazlia


_____________________________________________________

Nazlia Samodien

Cardiovascular Research Unit
Dept. of Cardiothoracic Surgery
University of Cape Town Medical School
Anzio Rd, Observatory, 7925, South Africa

Tel. +27 21 406 6398 (office)
+27 21 406 6476 (Secretary)
Fax + 27 21 448 5935


Email: ctssamodien-at-samiot.uct.ac.za










From daemon Fri Jul 21 09:51:14 2000



From: michael shaffer :      mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 07:47:26 -0700
Subject: RE: SEM/EDX Mapping - What is accuracy and why does area% not equal 100?

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Date sent: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 08:14:13 -0500
To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} From: ay813-at-chebucto.ns.ca ()



Tami writes ...

} ...
} ... I am trying to use this data to look at
} the differences between uranium precipitates
} ...
} ... However, there is a huge difference between the sum
} of all of the area%s reported for a given sample
} (which includes a "no element" area%). The total summed
} area % for these sample/scans ranges from 20% to 87%.
} ...
} Can anyone explain to me what it means when the total area%
} of all of the possible associations mapped sums to
} much less than 100%?
} What are the
}

The results of this type of spacial elemental analysis should have
resulted in two other calculated percentages ... (1) undefined pixels
and (2) multiply defined pixels. Depending on the software, the first
is generally included in the total you report, but not the second. It
is even possible neither have been included in the total. Do you have
access to these numbers, or the pixel maps???

cheerios, =shAf= :o)

{} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ cogito, ergo zZOooOM /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {}
Michael Shaffer, R.A. - mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Geological Science's Electron Probe Facility - University of Oregon
http://epmalab.uoregon.edu/




From daemon Fri Jul 21 09:59:41 2000



From: michael shaffer :      mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 08:05:50 -0700
Subject: RE: Film Scanners

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The following tip was passed to me by a user in the Scottish
Agricultural College for spreading a monolayer of starch granules:

Dip a polished acrylic plastic rod into the powder and roll it gently
on the surface of a double-sided carbon tab. The method has two
advantages - grains are electrostatically attracted to the surface of
the rod forming a monolayer, and the rod applies enough pressure
to ensure that the particles are stuck down across a broad base,
improving continuity of the metal coating on the grain with that of
the tab surface and stub, minimizing charging.

It works for other particulates too, but can only be recommended
for hard particulates that will withstand light compressive forces
without damage.

Chris

} From: "Huggins, Bradley J" {HUGGINBJ-at-bp.com}
To: "Tindall, Randy D." {TindallR-at-missouri.edu} ,
"'Kent Hampton'"
{khampton-at-oz.oznet.ksu.edu}
Copies to: "'microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com'"
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richard writes ...

} ...
} I am still looking for a film scanner for 4X5 film.
} ...

Flatbed scanners will not adapt very well to the optical density of
films. At best, they may not achieve 3.0. If yours are TEM films
then you probably want a scanner which is capable of near OD=4. The
only scanner I'm aware of, rated at OD=3.8, also reasonably priced is
the Polaroid 4x5 Ultra (~$4500). I realize this is much more
expensive than the scanners you are asking about, although they should
be adequate for SEM films.

cheerios, =shAf= :o)

{} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ cogito, ergo zZOooOM /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {}
Michael Shaffer, R.A. - mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Geological Science's Electron Probe Facility - University of Oregon
http://epmalab.uoregon.edu/




From daemon Fri Jul 21 10:30:07 2000



From: prenitzer,brenda s :      prenitzer-at-lucent.com
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 11:20:31 -0400
Subject: Conductive Epoxy?

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Greetings!

Does anyone have any recommendations for a conductive epoxy (other the Ag
paint) that can be used to mount specimens to a stud that will be used for
both polishing and subsequent analysis? (i.e., mechanically durable, water
resistant and stable under ion bombardment)

Any info would be appreciated.

Brenda I. Prenitzer, Ph.D.
Member of Technical Staff
Cirent Semiconductor (Lucent Technologies)
9333 S. John Young Parkway
6D-Lab
Orlando, FL 32819-8612

Phone: 407 371 7108
Fax: 407 371 6999

prenitzer-at-lucent.com
bsp101-at-worldnet.att.net



From daemon Fri Jul 21 10:42:48 2000



From: MICHAEL DELANNOY :      delannoy-at-mail.jhmi.edu
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 11:19:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Confocal sale

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For Sale:
Noran Oz Confocal Laser Scanning Microscope System with a new
Krypton-Argon laser, red HeNe, SGI O2 (acquisition), SGI Indy R5000
(analysis) and an Olympus IX 50 inverted microscope with 20x, 60x and 100x
Plan Apo lens'. This system is only 4 years old and fully operational.
Some highlighted features are:

AOD laser scanning, allows for very fast acquisition
rates (up to 480 frames/sec), for live localization, and
slow scan for fixed material.

Triple label capability (488, 568 and 633nm excitation)
with broad and narrow band emission filter sets.

Two and Three dimensional analysis software by Intervision,
Tiff and RGB formats (amoung others).

Deconvolution software allows for thinnest possible z-sectioning
for light microscopy.

Primary dichroic filter wheel upgrade for precise fluorophore
registration.

We are offering this system for $180,000, buyer to pay shipping.
I will personally give free on-site setup and training. Please contact
Michael Delannoy for further information (410) 955-1365.


Michael Delannoy
Assistant Director
JHMI Microscopy Facility
Johns Hopkins School of Medicine
Baltimore, Maryland



From daemon Fri Jul 21 10:52:23 2000



From: Mary Mager :      mager-at-interchange.ubc.ca
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 08:43:19 -0700
Subject: Re: distinguishing polymer beads and "attached" microorganisms

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Dear Winton,
With my experience of looking at organic materials, there is usually a
sulfur peak from the protein. If your specimen prep doesn't wash it away and
your sputter coat is thin, you might use the EDX to distinguish bacteria
from polymer. BTW, you should be able to look at both the polymer and
bacteria with no fixing or dehydrating, ad this should simplify identification.
At 11:20 AM 7/20/00 -0500, you wrote:

} Microscopists:
}
} A post-doc in our Chemical Engineering department came to me with
} this need - to quote:
}
} "Is there a way to distinguish between white polymer "buds" and
} microorganisms in a black-and-white SEM picture at a magnification of
} 8000X ? Both the cultured "bugs" and "buds" have the same size,
} shape, and appearance in/on spherical carbon/polymer beads that are
} sliced in half, fixed, mounted, and then viewed under the SEM".
}
} As you can see, it would appear that the polymer beads have surface
} textures/features ("buds") that are of comparable "shape" and "size"
} to the microorganisms cultured on the surface of the beads. I have
} yet to see the photos, so I can not comment on just what he is, or is
} not, seeing. The sample prep, as I understand it (never having done
} it!):
}
} 1. fixation in 1% glutaraldehyde with 0.1 molar cacodylate (excuse
} any misspellings)
} 2. post-fix of 1% osmium tetroxide in 0.1 molar cacodylate
} 3. dehydration in ethanol
} 4. critical point drying
} 5. sputter coating
}
} (whew!.....a lot more complicated than powder on a carbon sticky tab!!)
}
} So, based on this information, can any of you suggest a/other
} (pre-SEM) processing technique(s) (stains?) that he and our
} microscopist (in the Biology department) might utilize to help
} "differentiate" these "buds" from the cultured microorganisms?
}
} Winton
}
} PS: you can direct your feedback to me or the listserv - in either
} case I will compile the responses and have them available should any
} of you out there have need for them
}
} PS #2: I have an SEM too, with a Be-windowed EDX detector (= no
} light-element detection)
}
}
} --
}
} Winton C. Cornell, Ph.D.

Regards,
Mary

Mary Mager
Electron Microscopist
Metals and Materials Engineering
University of British Columbia
6350 Stores Road
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4
CANADA
tel: 604-822-5648
e-mail: mager-at-interchg.ubc.ca



From daemon Fri Jul 21 10:54:32 2000



From: Sinkler, Wharton :      WSinkler-at-uop.com
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 10:45:48 -0500
Subject: RE: Film Scanners

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We are also pricing scanners now. If anyone out there has experiences with
the Umax Powerlook 3000, particularly used to scan TEM negatives, I'd be
grateful for your insights.

Thanks,
Wharton Sinkler
UOP LLC
Des Plaines, IL

} -----Original Message-----
} From: michael shaffer [SMTP:mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu]
} Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 10:06 AM
} To: richard black; Microscopy news group
} Subject: RE: Film Scanners
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} richard writes ...
}
} } ...
} } I am still looking for a film scanner for 4X5 film.
} } ...
}
} Flatbed scanners will not adapt very well to the optical density of
} films. At best, they may not achieve 3.0. If yours are TEM films
} then you probably want a scanner which is capable of near OD=4. The
} only scanner I'm aware of, rated at OD=3.8, also reasonably priced is
} the Polaroid 4x5 Ultra (~$4500). I realize this is much more
} expensive than the scanners you are asking about, although they should
} be adequate for SEM films.
}
} cheerios, =shAf= :o)
}
} {} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ cogito, ergo zZOooOM /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {}
} Michael Shaffer, R.A. - mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
} Geological Science's Electron Probe Facility - University of Oregon
} http://epmalab.uoregon.edu/
}
}


From daemon Fri Jul 21 11:19:28 2000



From: BNguyen260-at-aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:10:30 EDT
Subject: Re: Conductive Epoxy?

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Dear Brenda,
We, Electron Mictroscopy Sciences, did offering this TWO PART CONDUCTIVE
SILVER PAINT, product number 12642-14. Please contact us at 1-800-523-5874.
Meatime, we believe some other EM supply houses also carrying this product.
Regards,
Bang Nguyen


From daemon Fri Jul 21 11:36:48 2000



From: Warren E Straszheim :      wesaia-at-iastate.edu
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 11:22:53 -0500
Subject: Re: SEM/EDX Mapping - What is accuracy and why does area% not

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I would strongly guess that the answer will lie with how the area fractions
are determined as Michael Sshaffer (shAf) has suggested. I am not familiar
with the Noran system so I can only offer general comments.

Depending on the collection conditions, it is possible that you have a lot
of pixels with no x-ray counts, or counts that are indistinguishable from
background. What are you conditions and counts per pixel?

I would certainly think that with a proper map that you would approach 100%
coverage. Perhaps you can put some images up on a web site so those of us
interested might take a look at them. Or you might e-mail a copy _just to
those of us interested_. Do not send a copy to the whole list!

Warren S.

At 12:33 PM 7/20/2000 -0600, you wrote:
} I am a student with a great deal of SEM-EDX mapping data that was obtained
} on an Amray 1830 SEM with a Noran Pioneer Series II x-ray analyzer with
} micro-Z detector. I am trying to use this data to look at the differences
} between uranium precipitates obtained in a batch study with apatite
} (Ca5(PO4)3(F,OH)) and potassium. I'm getting interesting trends based on
} the area% association of U-Ca-K-P and pH. However, there is a huge
} difference between the sum of all of the area%s reported for a given sample
} (which includes a "no element" area%). The total summed area % for these
} sample/scans ranges from 20% to 87%. The elemental analyses of these
} precipitates indicated that most (97 to 99.9 wt%) of any given sample was
} made up of U, K, Ca, and P.
} Can anyone explain to me what it means when the total area% of all of the
} possible associations mapped sums to much less than 100%? What are the
} possible differences between samples or scans that sum to near 100% and
} those that sum to 20%?
} Tami Thomas - tthomas-at-ch2m.com -

----------------------
Warren E. Straszheim
Materials Analysis and Research Lab
Iowa State University
23 Town Engineering
Ames IA, 50011-3232

Ph: 515-294-8187
FAX: 515-294-4563

E-Mail: wesaia-at-iastate.edu
Web: www.marl.iastate.edu

Scanning electron microscopy, x-ray analysis, and image analysis of materials
Computer applications and networking


From daemon Fri Jul 21 11:41:18 2000



From: Nathan Haese :      nathan_haese-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:31:57 -0400
Subject: Conductive Epoxy?

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Brenda,

Try Epoxy Technology, Inc. (14 Fortune Crive, Billerica, MA 01821).

I purchased silver-filled epoxy from them for mounting ultrasonic
transducers. It worked well. I am not sure about microscopy application.
Ask them.

Good luck,

Nathan Haese
Lafayette, CA


From daemon Fri Jul 21 12:56:08 2000



From: default :      byron.johnson-at-medtronic.com
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:46:21 -0500
Subject: image database software

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I am tasked with setting up an electronic library of SEM images, and I'm
looking for good database software applications for cataloging and
viewing images. Multi-user access and strong software technical support
are primary requirements. What are my options?



From daemon Fri Jul 21 13:40:49 2000



From: Geoff McAuliffe :      mcauliff-at-UMDNJ.EDU
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 14:31:50 -0400
Subject: Re: Conductive Epoxy?

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"prenitzer,brenda s" wrote:

} Greetings!
}
} Does anyone have any recommendations for a conductive epoxy (other the Ag
} paint) that can be used to mount specimens to a stud that will be used for
} both polishing and subsequent analysis? (i.e., mechanically durable, water
} resistant and stable under ion bombardment)
}
} Any info would be appreciated.
}
} Brenda I. Prenitzer, Ph.D.
} Member of Technical Staff
} Cirent Semiconductor (Lucent Technologies)
} 9333 S. John Young Parkway
} 6D-Lab
} Orlando, FL 32819-8612
}
} Phone: 407 371 7108
} Fax: 407 371 6999
}
} prenitzer-at-lucent.com
} bsp101-at-worldnet.att.net

You might contact Ablestick Adhesive in Gardena, CA. I worked for them on summer
many (and I do mean many) years ago, they made silver epoxy and copper epoxy
that might fill the bill.

Geoff
--
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voice: (732)-235-4583; fax: -4029
mcauliff-at-umdnj.edu
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From daemon Fri Jul 21 14:46:12 2000



From: Winton Cornell :      winton-cornell-at-utulsa.edu
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 14:31:04 -0500
Subject: nuclear track etching

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Microscopists:

Sorry to be fielding another question so soon after my "bugs and
polymer beads" question; this time, however, I am on a very different
track.

In a paper on nanowire arrays (nano-scale nickel wires) I note a
technique entitled "nuclear track etching" by which porous templates
were constructed in single-crystal muscovites. Apparently a
collimated alpha-particle beam was used to generate the porous
templates. (in which the Ni was later electrochemically deposited)

Do any of you know what sort of instrumentation this requires? We
would like to produce sub-micron-scale holes in polymers for
specialized battery development, and right now we're searching for a
technique to do this. (nuclear etching?)

Winton

PS: the paper on nanowires does not mention the instrumentation

.respond directly to me or to the listserv


--

Winton C. Cornell, Ph.D.
Department of Geosciences
The University of Tulsa
Tulsa, OK 74104
phone: 918-631-3248
fax: 918-631-2091

e-mail: winton-cornell-at-utulsa.edu



From daemon Fri Jul 21 15:55:28 2000



From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 13:44:11 -0700
Subject: RE: Film Scanners

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At 08:45 AM 7/21/00, you wrote:
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Try the Powerlook III. It does a nice job with chromes and negs.
Since the TEM neg does not have a color cast, best scanning is
by setting the scanner to transparent positive and reverse the
image in Photoshop.

Depending on what you intend to do with the image file, this
scanner should do it all. They run about $1100 with SCSI interface
or a bit more with USB.

gary g.


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From daemon Fri Jul 21 16:05:45 2000



From: Walck, Scott D. :      walck-at-ppg.com
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 16:54:45 -0400
Subject: RE: Conductive Epoxy?

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The silver epoxy that we use for the small angle cleavage technique and for
mounting samples on SEM stubs is H-22 epoxy from Epoxy Technology in
Billerica, Mass. This epoxy is viscous, has a long working time, and needs
to be heat cured.


-Scott

Scott D. Walck, Ph.D.
PPG Industries, Inc.
Glass Technology Center
Guys Run Rd. (packages)
P. O. Box 11472 (letters)
Pittsburgh, PA 15238-0472

Walck-at-PPG.com

(412) 820-8651 (office)
(412) 820-8161 (fax)



} -----Original Message-----
} From: prenitzer,brenda s [mailto:prenitzer-at-lucent.com]
} Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 11:21 AM
} To: 'List Server'
} Subject: Conductive Epoxy?
}
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}
} Greetings!
}
} Does anyone have any recommendations for a conductive epoxy
} (other the Ag
} paint) that can be used to mount specimens to a stud that
} will be used for
} both polishing and subsequent analysis? (i.e., mechanically
} durable, water
} resistant and stable under ion bombardment)
}
} Any info would be appreciated.
}
} Brenda I. Prenitzer, Ph.D.
} Member of Technical Staff
} Cirent Semiconductor (Lucent Technologies)
} 9333 S. John Young Parkway
} 6D-Lab
} Orlando, FL 32819-8612
}
} Phone: 407 371 7108
} Fax: 407 371 6999
}
} prenitzer-at-lucent.com
} bsp101-at-worldnet.att.net
}
}


From daemon Fri Jul 21 16:17:33 2000



From: Walck, Scott D. :      walck-at-ppg.com
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 17:06:24 -0400
Subject: RE: image database software

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Try Thumbsplus at www.cerious.com
This is a great program. It is shareware and relatively inexpensive.


-Scott

Scott D. Walck, Ph.D.
PPG Industries, Inc.
Glass Technology Center
Guys Run Rd. (packages)
P. O. Box 11472 (letters)
Pittsburgh, PA 15238-0472

Walck-at-PPG.com

(412) 820-8651 (office)
(412) 820-8161 (fax)



} -----Original Message-----
} From: default [mailto:byron.johnson-at-medtronic.com]
} Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 1:46 PM
} To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
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} I am tasked with setting up an electronic library of SEM
} images, and I'm
} looking for good database software applications for cataloging and
} viewing images. Multi-user access and strong software
} technical support
} are primary requirements. What are my options?
}
}


From daemon Fri Jul 21 17:10:45 2000



From: Zuo :      jianzuo-at-ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 16:58:51 -0500
Subject: Post-doc position in UHV TEM

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Hi :

I have a open post-doc position and I am looking for a "hands-on"
microscopist who can do excellent science. The position is in the materials
science department, university of illinois, urbana-Champaign. I'd appreciate
your help in passing this along to potential applicants.

Here is the job ad:
****************************************************************************

Postdoctoral Research Associate in In-Situ Thin Film Growth and Electron
Microscopy

Applications are invited for a postdoctoral associate position at the Dept.
of Materials Science and Engineering of University of Illinois at Urbana and
Champaign to begin as soon as possible. The position will involve in-situ
thin film growth in a UHV transmission electron microscope and study of
interface structures using advanced electron microscopy at the
Frederick-Seitz Materials Research Laboratory. A vita and three letters of
recommendation should be sent to Prof. J.M. Zuo, Dept. of Materials Science
and Engineering, University of Illinois at Urbana and Champaign, 1304 W
Green Street, Urbana, IL 61801; 217-333-2736 (fax); (217) 244-6504 (phone);
jianzuo-at-uiuc.edu (email). The successful candidate should have experience
with UHV instruments and thin-film deposition. Experience with RHEED and
transmission electron microscopy is strongly desired. A Ph. D. in Physics
or Materials Science is required. The appointment is initially for one year
and may be renewed for second year.


To be advertised in Physics today
****************************************************************************

Sincerely

JM Zuo





From daemon Fri Jul 21 17:18:41 2000



From: wft03-at-health.state.ny.us
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 18:07:31 -0400
Subject: Re: nuclear track etching

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Sorry to be fielding another question so soon after my "bugs and
polymer beads" question; this time, however, I am on a very different
track.

In a paper on nanowire arrays (nano-scale nickel wires) I note a
technique entitled "nuclear track etching" by which porous templates
were constructed in single-crystal muscovites. Apparently a
collimated alpha-particle beam was used to generate the porous
templates. (in which the Ni was later electrochemically deposited)

Do any of you know what sort of instrumentation this requires? We
would like to produce sub-micron-scale holes in polymers for
specialized battery development, and right now we're searching for a
technique to do this. (nuclear etching?)

Winton

PS: the paper on nanowires does not mention the instrumentation

.respond directly to me or to the listserv
Dear Winton,
In order to etch tracks with alpha particles, you need to give them
kinetic energies of at least a few MeV--nuclides which undergo alpha decay
typically produce ~5 MeV alphas. Thus, either a suitable radionuclide
source
or a cyclotron would be required. However, even with this kind of source
there may be problems. The text for my radiation sciences course, Nuclear
and Radiochemistry, by G. Friedlander, et al., has a section on nuclear
track
detectors in which it is stated, "For each material there is a critical
value of
specific ionization, (dE/dx)c, below which tracks are not registered. For
example, (dE/dx)c is ~ 13 MeV mg^-1 cm^2 for mica and ~4 MeV mg^-1
cm^2 for Lexan, two of the most widely used detectors. As a result mica
does not register ions with A {~30, Lexan is insensitive to ions with
A {~12."
Alphas have A = 4. Now this text is old (1981) and not too good, so the
technique for producing appropriate tracks may have been improved or
Friedlander may be incorrect for the kind of tracks you need. Also, the
tracks are produced when the incident particles ionize and/or displace
atoms
in the target, so the tracks may not be as small as you would like. Bear
in
mind that electrons incident on a specimen generate x-rays throughout a
teardrop-shaped volume about 1 micron across. Although alphas do not
have as great a spread as electrons, much of the ionization produced is
from secondary particles, and these will be electrons. If the paper you
refer
to tells you how to generate suitable tracks given a source of alphas, then
you are probably OK. Good luck.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




From daemon Fri Jul 21 21:32:51 2000



From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 19:21:32 -0700
Subject: Re: image database software

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Consider ImageAXS. It is set up to manage your image database
and also to allow you to set up CDs with thumbnails and full
resolution files.

The other option is ThumbsPlus--but Cerious Software is rather
dysfunctional based on my experience with them.

Other options are Canto Version 5 Cumulus, Kudo Image Browser
{http://www.imspace.com} ,
Extensis/CreativePro Portfolio {http://creativepro.com} . See
{http://riecks.com/redbarns.html} or {http://riecks.com/crash/} . I believe
the Kudo software is still $49 for the web
download version. You can download a demo version for free and give it a spin.
Then there is Gallerymaker (www.rjhsoftware.com) which produces thumbnails
and webpages, all of which are customizable. Cheap as I remember too. I just
use it to batch process thumbs from whole directories.

There are other options too.

gg




From daemon Sat Jul 22 03:47:16 2000



From: Chris Jeffree :      cjeffree-at-srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:31:12 +0100
Subject: Re: nuclear track etching

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*snip*
Winton
A brand of commercially-available polycarbonate filters is made
using this method. Nuclepore have pores mostly with perfectly
circular cross sections sizes from about 50nm to 12µm.
I am writing from home so unable to check, but I think they are
marketed by Whatman. Your usual supplier of filter media should be
able to source.

Chris

} We
} would like to produce sub-micron-scale holes in polymers for
} specialized battery development, and right now we're searching for a
} technique to do this. (nuclear etching?)
}
} Winton
}
} PS: the paper on nanowires does not mention the instrumentation
}
} .respond directly to me or to the listserv
} Dear Winton,
} In order to etch tracks with alpha particles, you need to give them
} kinetic energies of at least a few MeV--nuclides which undergo alpha decay
} typically produce ~5 MeV alphas. Thus, either a suitable radionuclide
} source
} or a cyclotron would be required. However, even with this kind of source
} there may be problems. The text for my radiation sciences course, Nuclear
} and Radiochemistry, by G. Friedlander, et al., has a section on nuclear
} track
} detectors in which it is stated, "For each material there is a critical
} value of
} specific ionization, (dE/dx)c, below which tracks are not registered. For
} example, (dE/dx)c is ~ 13 MeV mg^-1 cm^2 for mica and ~4 MeV mg^-1
} cm^2 for Lexan, two of the most widely used detectors. As a result mica
} does not register ions with A {~30, Lexan is insensitive to ions with
} A {~12."
} Alphas have A = 4. Now this text is old (1981) and not too good, so the
} technique for producing appropriate tracks may have been improved or
} Friedlander may be incorrect for the kind of tracks you need. Also, the
} tracks are produced when the incident particles ionize and/or displace
} atoms
} in the target, so the tracks may not be as small as you would like. Bear
} in
} mind that electrons incident on a specimen generate x-rays throughout a
} teardrop-shaped volume about 1 micron across. Although alphas do not
} have as great a spread as electrons, much of the ionization produced is
} from secondary particles, and these will be electrons. If the paper you
} refer
} to tells you how to generate suitable tracks given a source of alphas, then
} you are probably OK. Good luck.
} Yours,
} Bill Tivol
}
}
}


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From daemon Sat Jul 22 05:29:37 2000



From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 06:16:45 -0500
Subject: Conductive metallographic mounting medium

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-- [ From: Garber, Charles A. * EMC.Ver #3.1 ] --

Brenda I. Prenitzer wrote:
================================================================
Does anyone have any recommendations for a conductive epoxy (other the Ag
paint) that can be used to mount specimens to a stud that will be used for
both polishing and subsequent analysis? (i.e., mechanically durable, water
resistant and stable under ion bombardment)
=================================================================
The softness of silver generally makes it less than desired as a conductive
filler in this kind of application because of silver smearing, although
silver filled epoxies are available from SPI and others such as described on
URL
http://www.2spi.com/catalog/spec_prep/cond_adhes2.html

Can you consider using a conductive copper-filled diallyl phthalate such as
is available from both SPI and others. This is a thermoset resin system (it
requires a mounting press) and you can get an excellent metallographically
polished surface. See URL
http://www.2spi.com/catalog/spec_prep/metall2a.html#12 It is
certainly mechanically durable, water resistant and so far as it is possible
for any polymer, it is also stable under ion bombardment.

You would then literally glue the polished mount to the SEM mount of your
choice, which you would then prepare using your standard procedures.

This "solution" permits you to have the best of both worlds, first, a
mounting medium that was specifically designed for this kind of application
plus a final SEM mount ready to put into your SEM.

Disclaimer: SPI offers both silver filled epoxies as well as conductive
metallographic mounting media. But similar materials are available from
some of the other major firms supplying the microscopy and microanalysis
market as well.

Chuck
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From daemon Sat Jul 22 07:16:22 2000



From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 08:03:00 -0500
Subject: Plasmod power electronics

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William H. Roberts wrote:
======================================================
I have a March Plasmod (Plasma Etcher) which no longer produces the rf
needed to generate the plasma. Does anyone have a surplus/broken/obsolete
unit that could possibly still have operable electronics that they want to
get rid of? I'd like to try to repair mine before declaring it junk. (if
it can't be repaired economically, perhaps someone will need the parts on it
that are still good.)
======================================================

If what you are asking about is the pair of power tubes, then new ones can
be purchased from SPI Supplies, our part number 11022-AC for the pair of
power tubes. Details can be found on the SPI website given below. This was
a well built unit and there is not reason why it can't continue to give you
good service for years into the future.

Chuck

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From daemon Sat Jul 22 07:51:10 2000



From: Mark Sanders :      msanders-at-biosci.cbs.umn.edu
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 07:41:08 -0500
Subject: Re: image database software

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} I am tasked with setting up an electronic library of SEM images, and I'm
} looking for good database software applications for cataloging and
} viewing images. Multi-user access and strong software technical support
} are primary requirements. What are my options?

Another very powerful database management option is Ugather®.
UGather® is a free multimedia database manager that can catalog images,
QuickTime movies, and audio files and store information related to each
file. The databases can be imported easliy into UPresent®. UPresent® is a
free multimedia presentation application designed for flexible, interactive
control of presentations. It is available for Windows and Mac OS.
You can download it from http://upresent.umn.edu/.
I have no commercial interests, just a satisfied user.
Cheers,
Mark
****************************************************
Mark A. Sanders University of Minnesota
Program Director Twin Cities Campus
Imaging Center St. Paul, MN 55108
23-35 Snyder Hall ph: 612-624-3454
1475 Gortner Ave. fax: 612-624-1799
http://biosci.umn.edu/imagingcenter




From daemon Sat Jul 22 11:12:09 2000



From: Edward Hirsch :      edhirsch-at-att.net
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 11:58:20 -0500
Subject: image database software

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Byron,

Allied High Tech has just introduced an image acquisition, measurement,
DATABASE, archiving and report generation software package (Micro-Vision and
Micro-Vision Explorer). The software is modular so the database portion
(Micro-Vision Explorer) can be purchased separately.

Micro-Vision Explorer has thumbnails for each image and search features for
the data you enter into the customizable fields. All fields are set up by
an administrator to meet your needs. Unique fields can be created for text
input or numeric input. The fields can have drop down menus if you choose.
Each field can have specific attributes such as: flagged for required input,
read only, archive, clear last input plus more. The search features
include: file name, date, specific field search, text contained any where in
the properties, fuzzy searches plus much more. It supports an unlimited
number of images. It has built in archiving capability with volume control.
Micro-Vision Explorer has an easy to use Windows interface and will run on
Windows 95, 98, NT and 2000 computers. All of the popular image formats are
supported. The software can be networked and password protection can be
implemented.

In addition to images, Micro-Vision Explorer is also capable of indexing,
searching and achieving plain text, Lotus AMI Pro, HTML, Microsoft Word,
Excel, Works, RTF, PowerPoint 97, Adobe Acrobat PDF, Word Perfect versions
5.0 thru 7, and Word Star versions 4 to 6 and 2000.

If you require more information please let me know off-line.

I work for Allied High Tech and have a financial interest in this and all
products Allied High Tech sells.

Sincerely,

Ed Hirsch



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vm:(800)675-1118 x245
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Equipment and Consumables for Metallurgical Sample Preparation
*************************************************

-----Original Message-----
} From: default [mailto:byron.johnson-at-medtronic.com]
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 12:46 PM
To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


I am tasked with setting up an electronic library of SEM images, and I'm
looking for good database software applications for cataloging and
viewing images. Multi-user access and strong software technical support
are primary requirements. What are my options?




From daemon Sun Jul 23 12:13:32 2000



From: Rick Savoy :      rjsavoy-at-ibm.net
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 09:51:13 -0700
Subject: Analytical Engineer Position Available

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Job description for analytical engineer, Defect and Thin Film
Characterization Laboratory (DTCL), Applied Materials, Inc. Santa Clara, CA

Job Summary
Active participation in product division contamination control and defect
reduction programs. Prioritized by value to the product divisions, conduct
internal and external defect characterization focused on defect root cause
analysis. Interact with external experts and DTCL members to leverage value
to product divisions. Document and communicate root cause solutions and
strategic information to internal customers and strategic personnel in
product divisions and functions.

Minimum Requirements:
MS in Material Science/ Physics with 3 years hands-on experience in
analytical instrumentation applied for defect/ thin film analysis. Must
demonstrate:
(1) Good hands-on capabilities as well as sound theoretical understanding of
SEM, EDX, WDX, and FIB applications for particle defect/ thin film analysis.
In addition, practical experience with Auger is a plus.
(2) Experience in wafer surface defect detection using light scattering
technique, e.g. Applied Materials WF736, Excite, Tencor 62XX and SP1-TBI.
(3) Experience in TEM sample preparation and bulk samples cross-sectioning.
(4) Ability to work independently with minimum of supervision. Must have
good technical documentation/computer skills and is a team player.


Please send resume via e-mail to:
richard_savoy-at-amat.com



From daemon Sun Jul 23 12:49:16 2000



From: Djemge-at-aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:33:47 EDT
Subject: TEM Biological Transmission Electron Employment

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I am seeking a Transmission Electron Micoscopy Position in the Chicago, IL or
Los Angeles, CA area. I have 34 years of experience as a Biological
Transmission Electron Microscopist in research and clinical areas, have held
MSA certification for 21 years, and have a Bachelors Degree. If you know of
positions in the above areas or know of resources for job postings in
Electron Microscopy, please contact me via the following:

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From daemon Mon Jul 24 10:32:54 2000



From: Tim E. Harper :      tim-at-cmp-cientifica.com
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:18:56 +0200
Subject: Announcement: TNT (Trends In Nanotechnology) 2000

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Dear Colleagues,

TNT (Trends In Nanotechnology) 2000 will take place this year in the UNESCO
World heritage city of Toledo. The aim of this conference will be to focus
on the applications of Nanotechnology and to bring together in a Forum many
of the major European groups working in this field. www.cientifica.com
{http://www.cientifica.com}
TNT 2000 will be held in the Monastery 'San Pedro Mártir' in the historic
city of Toledo, Spain from the 16th - 20th October 2000.
The aim of this conference will be to focus on the applications of
Nanotechnology and to bring together in a Forum various groups working in
this field. In addition to the normal program of keynote speakers, oral
presentations and poster sessions, it is also planned to hold workshops on
topics such as "overcoming obstacles to industrial production".
The first announcement is available here as a MS Word or Acrobat pdf
document
In addition to the normal program of keynote speakers, oral presentations
and poster sessions, it is also planned to hold workshops on topics such as
"overcoming obstacles to industrial production". Currently 2 workgroups,
"Nanofabrication: printing" and "Nanofabrication: Self-Assembly" from the
5th MEL/ARI-NID program (European Commission) have decided to actively
participate at this conference. They will hold their NID (Nanotechnology
Information Devices) meeting during TNT2000.
Scientific Program
The scientific program will cover a wide range spectrum of Nanotechnology
research and related areas including keynote lectures, oral presentations,
posters and a product/instrument exhibition. A crucial issue during a
conference is time allowed to discussions between participants in order to
exchange ideas and therefore possibly define strategies in order to solve
real problems. During TNT'2000, following each session, large breaks will be
set-up in order to allow these discussions. This allows a high degree of
interactivity both between research groups, and between researchers and
exhibitors.
The TNT conference will allow either Academic institutions or Industrials
(such as IBM, Lucent, Philips, Thomson, Sony, etc.) to present their
research and foster cooperation between both.
Key topics
* Nanotubes
* Local Electromagnetic Phenomena
* Quantum + DNA Computing
* Devices and Machines
* Nanoscale Integration
* Nanobiology
* Nanotechnology for space Applications
* Molecular Nanotechnology
* Nanomedicine
* Nanostructure Behaviour Modelling
* Nanomaterials
* Nanofabrication Tools and Techniques
* Ultimate Limits of Measurement


More information about the Workshop (Keynote Speakers, Accommodation,
Committees, schedule, social events, etc.) is available at:
http://www.cientifica.com/ {http://www.cientifica.com/}

If you need more information, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Regards
Tim E. Harper


*****************************************************************
Tim E. Harper Managing Director
CMP Cientifica s.l.
Space & NanoTechnology Division
Phone +34 91 640 71 85 Fax +34 91 640 71 86
http://www.cmp-cientifica.com/ {http://www.cmp-cientifica.com/}



From daemon Mon Jul 24 10:48:22 2000



From: Mary Mager :      mager-at-interchange.ubc.ca
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:35:40 -0700
Subject: Re: image database software

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Dear Byron,
You will find that the Quartz Imaging Corp. (www.quartzimaging.com) image
databasing software is very complete, easy to use and access and fully
supported. It has several options for intranet or web-based access and is
the fastest I've ever seen.
At 12:46 PM 7/21/00 -0500, you wrote:
}
} I am tasked with setting up an electronic library of SEM images, and I'm
} looking for good database software applications for cataloging and
} viewing images. Multi-user access and strong software technical support
} are primary requirements. What are my options?
}
Regards,
Mary

Mary Mager
Electron Microscopist
Metals and Materials Engineering
University of British Columbia
6350 Stores Road
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4
CANADA
tel: 604-822-5648
e-mail: mager-at-interchg.ubc.ca



From daemon Mon Jul 24 10:54:34 2000



From: Mary Mager :      mager-at-interchange.ubc.ca
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:46:09 -0700
Subject: Conductive Epoxy?

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Dear Brenda,
I use the Cu-filled Kulzer Technovit 5000 cold-curing resin to mount and
polish metal samples that I do not want to carbon-coat. I believe it is made
in Germany, but imported by Energy Beam Sciences.}
} Greetings!
}
} Does anyone have any recommendations for a conductive epoxy (other the Ag
} paint) that can be used to mount specimens to a stud that will be used for
} both polishing and subsequent analysis? (i.e., mechanically durable, water
} resistant and stable under ion bombardment)
}
} Any info would be appreciated.
}
} Brenda I. Prenitzer, Ph.D.

Regards,
Mary

Mary Mager
Electron Microscopist
Metals and Materials Engineering
University of British Columbia
6350 Stores Road
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4
CANADA
tel: 604-822-5648
e-mail: mager-at-interchg.ubc.ca



From daemon Mon Jul 24 11:41:24 2000



From: John J. Bozzola :      bozzola-at-siu.edu
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:23:54 -0500
Subject: SEM:donated SEM

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} A colleaque needs to know the value of an ISI Super IIIA that was
} dontated to their institution (probably for tax credit purposes to
} the donor).
}
} If someone is able to give a reasonable figure to this individual,
} please send the figure to the following address:
}
} DWARD-at-flemingc.on.ca
}
} Thank you on his behalf.
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From daemon Mon Jul 24 15:24:52 2000



From: MICHAEL DELANNOY :      delannoy-at-mail.jhmi.edu
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:58:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: image database software

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Gary,
Let me know where I can get an O2 for only $750, also where I can
get a confocal system (not pcm) for under 200K. The point is we are not
dumping the system, it is heavily used, check out
www.med.jhu.edu/micfac/reserve.cgi, for availability, we simply need a
Uv laser and rather than retro-fitting we decided to buy a new one. I
would put any of our deconvoluted confocal images up agaisnt any system
out there and feel confident that they are as good if not better.

Mike D.

On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, Gary Gaugler wrote:

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} }
} } I am tasked with setting up an electronic library of SEM images, and I'm
} } looking for good database software applications for cataloging and
} } viewing images. Multi-user access and strong software technical support
} } are primary requirements. What are my options?
}
}
} Consider ImageAXS. It is set up to manage your image database
} and also to allow you to set up CDs with thumbnails and full
} resolution files.
}
} The other option is ThumbsPlus--but Cerious Software is rather
} dysfunctional based on my experience with them.
}
} Other options are Canto Version 5 Cumulus, Kudo Image Browser
} {http://www.imspace.com} ,
} Extensis/CreativePro Portfolio {http://creativepro.com} . See
} {http://riecks.com/redbarns.html} or {http://riecks.com/crash/} . I believe
} the Kudo software is still $49 for the web
} download version. You can download a demo version for free and give it a spin.
} Then there is Gallerymaker (www.rjhsoftware.com) which produces thumbnails
} and webpages, all of which are customizable. Cheap as I remember too. I just
} use it to batch process thumbs from whole directories.
}
} There are other options too.
}
} gg
}
}
}



From daemon Mon Jul 24 15:57:01 2000



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From daemon Mon Jul 24 18:27:18 2000



From: Klein,Roy :      RKLEIN-at-cmiinternational.com (by way of Nestor J.
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:11:30 -0500
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Colleagues....

I'm passing this along if anyone is interested. Reply to CMI..

Nestor

--------------------------------


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From daemon Mon Jul 24 21:09:43 2000



From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:58:04 -0700
Subject: Fwd: Re: Confocal sale

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} Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:04:44 -0700
} To: MICHAEL DELANNOY {delannoy-at-mail.jhmi.edu}
} From: Gary Gaugler {gary-at-gaugler.com}
} Subject: Re: Confocal sale
}
} I just sold an Indigo 2 Extreme complete system for $900. There
} are numerous O2 boxes around for between $600-$1200, depending
} on whether it is a 5K or 10K CPU and how much memory it has.
} The O2 is a nice toaster for sure. But it is rather dated.
}
} Any inverted scope is not going to have the image quality and
} resolution of a vertical unit. My worst experience was with an
} Olympus IMT-2. I dumped it for $6K and was glad to be rid of it.
}
} If your system is working OK for you, all the better. I was just
} trying to point out the impact of technology advancement on
} after-the-purchase value.
}
} gary g
}
}
} At 12:15 PM 7/24/00, you wrote:
}
} } Gary,
} } I don't know where you estimates come from, but let me know where
} } I can get an O2 for $750. Anyway we aren't dumping this system,
} } this system is still making money for our facility (check out our reservation
} } scheduler www.med.jhu.edu/micfac/reserve.cgi), the Noran Oz is always booked.
} } The reason for the sale is to get a confocal system with a Uv laser, we don't
} } want to retro fit this one, so it seemed simplier to sell it. I would put
} } any of our deconvoluted confocal images up against any other system
} } available,
} } and feel confident that the imaging is as good if not better.
} }
} }
} } On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, Gary Gaugler wrote:
} }
} } } How many Mercedes come with this? The O2 is worth about
} } } $750. The Indigo 5000 is not worth more than $750. And the
} } } inverted Olympus is barely worth a mention.
} } }
} } } No wonder you want to dump it.
} } }
} } } gg
} } }
} } }
} } }
} } } At 08:19 AM 7/21/00, you wrote:
} } } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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} } } }
} } } }
} } } }
} } } } For Sale:
} } } } Noran Oz Confocal Laser Scanning Microscope System with a new
} } } } Krypton-Argon laser, red HeNe, SGI O2 (acquisition), SGI Indy R5000
} } } } (analysis) and an Olympus IX 50 inverted microscope with 20x, 60x and
} } 100x
} } } } Plan Apo lens'. This system is only 4 years old and fully operational.
} } } } Some highlighted features are:
} } } }
} } } } AOD laser scanning, allows for very fast acquisition
} } } } rates (up to 480 frames/sec), for live localization, and
} } } } slow scan for fixed material.
} } } }
} } } } Triple label capability (488, 568 and 633nm excitation)
} } } } with broad and narrow band emission filter sets.
} } } }
} } } } Two and Three dimensional analysis software by Intervision,
} } } } Tiff and RGB formats (amoung others).
} } } }
} } } } Deconvolution software allows for thinnest possible z-sectioning
} } } } for light microscopy.
} } } }
} } } } Primary dichroic filter wheel upgrade for precise fluorophore
} } } } registration.
} } } }
} } } } We are offering this system for $180,000, buyer to pay shipping.
} } } } I will personally give free on-site setup and training. Please contact
} } } } Michael Delannoy for further information (410) 955-1365.
} } } }
} } } }
} } } } Michael Delannoy
} } } } Assistant Director
} } } } JHMI Microscopy Facility
} } } } Johns Hopkins School of Medicine
} } } } Baltimore, Maryland
} } }



From daemon Mon Jul 24 21:09:44 2000



From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:57:40 -0700
Subject: Fwd: Re: Confocal sale

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} Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:07:20 -0700
} To: MICHAEL DELANNOY {delannoy-at-mail.jhmi.edu}
} From: Gary Gaugler {gary-at-gaugler.com}
} Subject: Re: Confocal sale
}
} Check out this link for an almost complete O2/10K system.
} It is in the range I quoted.
}
} http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=388534054
}
} gg
}
}
} At 12:15 PM 7/24/00, you wrote:
}
} } Gary,
} } I don't know where you estimates come from, but let me know where
} } I can get an O2 for $750. Anyway we aren't dumping this system,
} } this system is still making money for our facility (check out our reservation
} } scheduler www.med.jhu.edu/micfac/reserve.cgi), the Noran Oz is always booked.
} } The reason for the sale is to get a confocal system with a Uv laser, we don't
} } want to retro fit this one, so it seemed simplier to sell it. I would put
} } any of our deconvoluted confocal images up against any other system
} } available,
} } and feel confident that the imaging is as good if not better.
} }
} }
} } On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, Gary Gaugler wrote:
} }
} } } How many Mercedes come with this? The O2 is worth about
} } } $750. The Indigo 5000 is not worth more than $750. And the
} } } inverted Olympus is barely worth a mention.
} } }
} } } No wonder you want to dump it.
} } }
} } } gg
} } }
} } }
} } }
} } } At 08:19 AM 7/21/00, you wrote:
} } } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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} } } } -----------------------------------------------------------------------.
} } } }
} } } }
} } } }
} } } } For Sale:
} } } } Noran Oz Confocal Laser Scanning Microscope System with a new
} } } } Krypton-Argon laser, red HeNe, SGI O2 (acquisition), SGI Indy R5000
} } } } (analysis) and an Olympus IX 50 inverted microscope with 20x, 60x and
} } 100x
} } } } Plan Apo lens'. This system is only 4 years old and fully operational.
} } } } Some highlighted features are:
} } } }
} } } } AOD laser scanning, allows for very fast acquisition
} } } } rates (up to 480 frames/sec), for live localization, and
} } } } slow scan for fixed material.
} } } }
} } } } Triple label capability (488, 568 and 633nm excitation)
} } } } with broad and narrow band emission filter sets.
} } } }
} } } } Two and Three dimensional analysis software by Intervision,
} } } } Tiff and RGB formats (amoung others).
} } } }
} } } } Deconvolution software allows for thinnest possible z-sectioning
} } } } for light microscopy.
} } } }
} } } } Primary dichroic filter wheel upgrade for precise fluorophore
} } } } registration.
} } } }
} } } } We are offering this system for $180,000, buyer to pay shipping.
} } } } I will personally give free on-site setup and training. Please contact
} } } } Michael Delannoy for further information (410) 955-1365.
} } } }
} } } }
} } } } Michael Delannoy
} } } } Assistant Director
} } } } JHMI Microscopy Facility
} } } } Johns Hopkins School of Medicine
} } } } Baltimore, Maryland
} } }



From daemon Mon Jul 24 22:32:17 2000



From: Richard Easingwood :      richard.easingwood-at-stonebow.otago.ac.nz
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:24:54 +1200
Subject: Nitrogen developer agitation

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Dear All,
Just wondering if anyone out there uses a nitrogen bubble system to agitate
their film processing solutions in tanks. We are considering such a system
but I would like a clearer idea about the set-up before going ahead and
asking our workshop to make the system. At present we use Kodak 4489 film
and ordinary tanks with Kodak D19 developer and Ilford Hypam, this works
fine except occasionally when people forget to agitate the film.

If anyone has such a system which is being used for sheet negs I would
appreciate a rough description how it works. ie

1) what the layout of tubes on the bottom of the tanks is like

2) what kind of control system is used to set the bubbling intervals
(presumably something like a solenoid on a timer connected through a
regulator on to a N2-filled cylinder?)

Are there any problems or drawbacks to the systems which are in use? Are
they worth the trouble of setting up and maintaining?


Best regards,

Richard


Richard Easingwood
South Campus Electron Microscope Unit
School of Medical Sciences, University of Otago
PO Box 913, Dunedin
NEW ZEALAND

Telephone: 64-03-479 7301 Facsimile: 64-03-479 7254
mailto:richard.easingwood-at-stonebow.otago.ac.nz
http://anatomy.otago.ac.nz:800/Department/EMUnit.html
http://www.otago.ac.nz/anatomy/emunit/






From daemon Tue Jul 25 01:34:22 2000



From: Ron Doole :      ron.doole-at-materials.oxford.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:00:51 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Re: Nitrogen developer agitation

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Proscitech offers very pure, very fine silver powder in 20 g tubes. This can be
mixed with any suitable compound, which has several advantages.
I believe that using silver powder for mixing in with epoxy and similar
applications has several advantages. Obviously ProSciTech has an interest in
the use of this product.
Cheers
Jim Darley
ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS
PO Box 111, Thuringowa QLD 4817 Australia
Ph +61 7 4774 0370 Fax:+61 7 4789 2313 service-at-proscitech.com
Great microscopy catalogue, 500 Links, MSDS, User Notes
ABN: 99 724 136 560 www.proscitech.com

-----Original Message-----
} From: Mary Mager [SMTP:mager-at-interchange.ubc.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 1:46 AM
To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Richard Easingwood wrote:

Hi Richard,

We have been using N2 burst in our developing tanks since long before I
came here over 20 years ago and I think that it is a great facility.
We are a large multi user facility that can be processing between 200 and
2000 sheets a week in two different processing lines. The only problem we
have is that occasionally users do not check that there is N2 in the gas
bottle before processing and hence it does not work. The importance of
correct agitation is obvious and lack of agitation is easily spotted when
a users has got it wrong (very rare).

We use systems bought from Kodak 30(ish) years ago. There are 6 tubes with
small holes in the bottom of our deep tanks, a solenoid valve controlled
by a timer and a N2 bottle with regulator. The timer can be set for off,
continous and timed (with variable burst times and off intervals). We
generally use 1 second burst every 10 seconds. The gas pressure is
adjusted to ensure we have the minimum flow with a good agitation
(around 10 psi).

An added advantage is that I can reload the films during the developing
time instead of hanging around, occasionally shaking the films. Maybe it
does not save that much time but it seems like it late at night.

Ron

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}
} Dear All,
} Just wondering if anyone out there uses a nitrogen bubble system to agitate
} their film processing solutions in tanks. We are considering such a system
} but I would like a clearer idea about the set-up before going ahead and
} asking our workshop to make the system. At present we use Kodak 4489 film
} and ordinary tanks with Kodak D19 developer and Ilford Hypam, this works
} fine except occasionally when people forget to agitate the film.
}
} If anyone has such a system which is being used for sheet negs I would
} appreciate a rough description how it works. ie
}
} 1) what the layout of tubes on the bottom of the tanks is like
}
} 2) what kind of control system is used to set the bubbling intervals
} (presumably something like a solenoid on a timer connected through a
} regulator on to a N2-filled cylinder?)
}
} Are there any problems or drawbacks to the systems which are in use? Are
} they worth the trouble of setting up and maintaining?
}
}
} Best regards,
}
} Richard
}
}
} Richard Easingwood
} South Campus Electron Microscope Unit
} School of Medical Sciences, University of Otago
} PO Box 913, Dunedin
} NEW ZEALAND
}
} Telephone: 64-03-479 7301 Facsimile: 64-03-479 7254
} mailto:richard.easingwood-at-stonebow.otago.ac.nz
} http://anatomy.otago.ac.nz:800/Department/EMUnit.html
} http://www.otago.ac.nz/anatomy/emunit/
}
}
}
}
}
}

===========================================================================
Mr. Ron Doole e-mail ron.doole-at-materials.ox.ac.uk
Department of Materials, phone +44 (0) 1865 273701
University of Oxford, fax +44 (0) 1865 283333
Parks Road.
Oxford. OX1 3PH. UK.
============================================================================



From daemon Tue Jul 25 06:57:41 2000



From: Roger Moretz :      rcmoretz-at-excite.com
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:45:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: image database software

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Just an additional comment on this. Late '99 we evaluated several database
packages: ImageCentral from Advanced Imaging Concepts (Princeton, NJ),
ElectroImage (ElectroImage, Great Neck, NY) and Archive4Images (Long Island
Instruments, East Meadow, NY). Each system has its pros and cons. The
ElectroImage database package has since been upgraded with Java and Web
enabling; ImageCentral is a network-enabled package; Archive4Images includes
some processing tools. ElectroImage is an outstanding product, but has a
limited number of fields for searching, whereas ImageCentral has a much
larger number of fields--the single feature that the Experimental Pathology
group found to be most important. None of these packages is
inexpensive--expect $1500 to $4K for cost of the database alone. If cost is
not a factor, check out these systems. Of course, you can always develop
your own using Paradox or Access. On the non-scientific side, check out the
current version of ULead's ImagePals--I have been using this at home since
v.2 came out a very long time ago.

Roger Moretz, Ph.D.
Dept of Toxicology
BI Pharmaceuticals, Inc.

I have no interest in any of the products, vendors or suppliers other than
to have evaluated or used the product(s) somewhere in my life.
On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:46:21 -0500, default wrote:

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}
} I am tasked with setting up an electronic library of SEM images, and I'm
} looking for good database software applications for cataloging and
} viewing images. Multi-user access and strong software technical support
} are primary requirements. What are my options?
}
}


Roger C Moretz, Ph.D.





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From daemon Tue Jul 25 08:59:56 2000



From: Neelima Shah :      shahn-at-mail.med.upenn.edu
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:50:00 -0400
Subject: antibody

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Anyone out there know of any antibody that would be specific for mouse
endothelial cells?? We are trying to identify endothelial cells in tumors
as well as cultured endothelial cells. I know a lot of them work for LM
after various treatments. I seem to have had no luck so far staining at EM
level. I would appreciate all the input.Thanks in advance.....
Neelima Shah..............
Biomedical Imaging Core Facility
Uni of Pennsylvania
Philadelphia, Pa.




http://www.MED.upenn.edu/morphlab/



From daemon Tue Jul 25 09:05:01 2000



From: Nestor J. Zaluzec :      zaluzec-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:51:58 -0500
Subject: Administrivia: Reminder Listserver rules specify No Selling....

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Colleagues

There has been a creeping effect in postings over time where
individuals are listing items "for sale" on the listserver.

Let me once again remind you all of our rules (from
the FAQ sheet you ALL received) that this is not permitted and it
applies to everyone (including Universities) not just Commerical
organizations.

The general public does not know but every posting that I see (I do miss some)
that breaks the Listserver rules generates a PRIVATE warning from me.
If the transgressions continue it will culminate with exclusion (ie.
filtering/banning)
of an individual's privilege of posting to the Listserver.
For the record, nearly a dozen individuals have been barred from posting
(but they may still receive mail) for extended periods.

Returning to the subject of providing a forum for listing/offering used
equipment
it is obvious that the community needs an electronic forum for this function.

To this end, I will create a WWW site which will allow this and will
announce it as soon as it is operational.

It will be seperate from the Listserver and will be purely WWW based.
The model for this is the Vendor news site which I created over a year ago
and continues to operate successfully.

(http://www.msa.microscopy.com/News/NewsListings.html)


Cheers...

Nestor
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This listserver is not intended to be a Sales/Marketing/Survey mechanism
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If you are an organization and have equipment you wish to donate, or sell,
for nominal cost (i.e. no profit) then this is generally an acceptable
posting. If you are not sure then send a copy of the announcement in
question to Zaluzec-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com and I will give you my opinion. An
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of this type would be an old decommissioned instrument which someone is
trying to give away for removal/shipping costs, that would fit within the
bounds of the purposes of this list.

If you are interested in using the Internet for Commerical Advertising of
Microscopy/Microanalysis Related Products/Services, you may wish to contact
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If you wish to purchase a copy of the MSA Membership directory/Mailing list
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There is a mechanism to post Commerical NEWS to the Microscopy Community.
If you have something of a purely Commerical Nature and wish to make it
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follow the on-line instructions)

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From daemon Tue Jul 25 09:13:22 2000



From: Marie E. Cantino :      cantino-at-uconnvm.uconn.edu
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:06:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Nitrogen developer agitation

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Richard,

We have a nitrogen burst system that we use for the developing tank. It
consists of an open metal rack with five metal tubes at the bottom, each
with a series of tiny holes spaced about 1-1.5 cm apart and facing the
bottom of the tank. Our plexiglass negative rack fits inside the gas rack,
and both fit in our 9x5.5 inch developing tank. The rack is connected to
a nitrogen tank via a burst regulator (Arkay Corp.) with variable burst
frequency and duration.

One caution: about a year ago we noticed that our developed negatives were
coming out uneven, even when they were exposed to an absolutely uniform
electron beam. On examination, some of the holes were found to be
encrusted with metal salts. Once cleaned out, the negatives became uniform
again. This was only after many (15+) years of operation, so it isn't a
big problem if you watch out for it.

Marie

Dr. Marie E. Cantino
Dept. of Physiology and Neurobiology, U-2131
University of Connecticut
Storrs, CT 06269-2131
Phone: 860-486-3588
Fax: 860-486-1936




From daemon Tue Jul 25 10:01:01 2000



From: Giles, Bill :      William.Giles-at-TIMET.com
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:49:04 -0600
Subject: Polaroid Film Choices

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Howdy List,

I need to stop using Polaroid T-55 p/n sheet film in my lab(good bye old
friend). The enviormental guys got to us.

The question is, what to replace it with? T-52, T-53 or T-54.

We will be using it primarily in our old Cambridge 250, inverted
metallograph, and some macro stand usage.

Its use will be limited as our new JEOL SEM and inverted metallograph are
going digital.

Any suggestions?


William T. Giles
Sr. Electron Microscopist
Met. Lab. Coordinator
Henderson Technical Laboratory
TIMET
PO Box 2128 Henderson NV 89009
Ph: (702)566-4436
Fax: (702)564-9038
E-mail: Bill.Giles-at-timet.com



From daemon Tue Jul 25 11:01:30 2000



From: Marie E. Cantino :      cantino-at-uconnvm.uconn.edu
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:53:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Polaroid Film Choices

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Since we (and probably others) use this film, I'm curious what is the
hazardous/toxic part. Is it the Na sulfite solution, the goop on the film,
or the coater?

Marie


Dr. Marie E. Cantino
Dept. of Physiology and Neurobiology, U-2131
University of Connecticut
Storrs, CT 06269-2131
Phone: 860-486-3588
Fax: 860-486-1936




From daemon Tue Jul 25 17:36:11 2000



From: Sarah Peters :      petersar-at-ohsu.edu
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:20:20 -0700
Subject: Tips on flat embedding with LR White

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I would appreciate any hints, tips, or procedures available on flat embedding using LR White.
Thanks!
S. Peters

Sarah Peters NRC04
Oregon Hearing Research Center
3181 SW Sam Jackson Pk Rd
Portland, Or. 97202
Ph:(503) 494-2942
Fax: (503) 494-5656




From daemon Tue Jul 25 18:44:03 2000



From: Ekstrom, Harry :      harry.ekstrom-at-honeywell.com
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:32:25 -0700
Subject: RE: Polaroid Film Choices

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I think both. I know on the pieces of film, there was some kind of warning
about getting the goop (Na sulfite) on your skin. Before we went to the
coaterless film (type 53) way back when, we had a special hazmat can for the
coaters.

Now we're happily digital.

Harry Ekstrom
Materials Laboratory

(602) 231-2744
e-mail: harry.ekstrom-at-honeywell.com







From daemon Tue Jul 25 18:57:52 2000



From: Marek Malecki :      mmm-at-ucsd.edu
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:52:37 -0700
Subject: photoconversion of DAB

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Would anyone have a wavelength sensitivity curve for photoconversion of
diamonobenzidine?



M. Malecki, M.D., Ph.D.
Director and Principal Investigator

Molecular Imaging Laboratories
University of California at San Diego
address: 1500 Suite Bonner Hall, 9500 Gilman Drive, La Jolla, CA 92093-0368
phone: 8588223373
fax: 8588223715
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From daemon Tue Jul 25 22:03:14 2000



From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:00:28 -0500
Subject: Polaroid film and skin sensitivities

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-- [ From: Garber, Charles A. * EMC.Ver #3.1 ] --

Harry Ekstrom wrote:
============================================================
I think both. I know on the pieces of film, there was some kind of warning
about getting the goop (Na sulfite) on your skin. Before we went to the
coaterless film (type 53) way back when, we had a special hazmat can for the
coaters.
============================================================
Over the thirty plus years we have used the Polaroid P/N film , the type
that took the sodium sulfite clearing solution (but we hardly use any today)
, it was my recollection that we had cases of what seemed like contact
dermatitis from more than several employees, with some being sensitive to
the chemicals in the coaters. The sodium sulfite solution seemed to be a
mild irritant to others. I don't recall anyone being affected by the
chemicals in the composite film pack, but then again, the strong warning
might have given everyone a special "heads up". But I would avoid having
any of these kinds of chemicals come in contact with your skin.

Another thing I found out is that one can develop a sensitivity to at least
the coater chemicals, that is one might not be initially reactive to them,
but with time, one could develop a sensitivity to them.

Disclaimer: Digital microscopy has put an almost complete stop to the sales
of these kinds of film products.

Chuck
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From daemon Wed Jul 26 04:41:47 2000



From: Michael Reiner :      Elektronenmikroskopie-at-web.de
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:31:48 +0200
Subject: Re: antibody

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Hello Neelima Shah!

Did you try PECAM-1/CD31 (rat) from Pharmingen? It must work well at least using a pre-embedding protocol without permeabilization.

Greetings,
Michael Reiner

University of Cologne, Germany
Department of Anatomy I



} Anyone out there know of any antibody that would be specific for mouse
} endothelial cells?? We are trying to identify endothelial cells in tumors
} as well as cultured endothelial cells. I know a lot of them work for LM
} after various treatments. I seem to have had no luck so far staining at EM
} level. I would appreciate all the input.Thanks in advance.....
} Neelima Shah..............
} Biomedical Imaging Core Facility
} Uni of Pennsylvania
} Philadelphia, Pa.
}
}
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}
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From daemon Wed Jul 26 06:55:10 2000



From: User on lab1 :      lab1-at-ccnet.up.ac.za
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:44:25 +0200
Subject: Thermophile bacteria

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Hello Microscopists
I have a client who wants to image (SEM) thermophile bacteria in situ in
a bioleaching environment. Any one have any experience in this regard?
We have tried the conventional prep procedure: .2u filter GA-----CPD,
but with no luck.
Any pointers will be appreciated

Thank you

Alan



From daemon Wed Jul 26 09:12:35 2000



From: Tamara Howard :      howard-at-cshl.org
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:41:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Tips on flat embedding with LR White

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How large are your samples? Are you going to do UV cure or heat? I have
procedures for embedding cells on coverslips as well as "normal" samples
that need flat-embedding....let me know which samples you have!

Tamara Howard
CSHL


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From daemon Wed Jul 26 09:36:13 2000



From: Debby Sherman :      sherman-at-btny.purdue.edu
Date: 26 Jul 2000 09:24:45 -0500
Subject: M&M Facility Management

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To all you struggling managers of multi-user or service facilities:

This is a reminder that there will be a special "EXPERTS" session to discuss topics of interest in this area. The session will be help from 9:00 to 12:00 on Wednesday, August 16 in Room 106.

Format of the session will be as follows:
1) 3 topics recommended by you will be initially presented with each introduced by an expert on that topic.
2) The order of the discussion will be announced in advance so those of you with conflicts will have an idea of when to attend this session.
3) The initial introduction of a topic will be short (5-10min) so as to leave maximum time for questions and discussion from attendees.
4) We will try to limit open discussion on any one topic to no more than 30min so that all 3 topics can be discussed in approximately a 2 hr. time period. The remaining time can be used to revisit one of the topics or introduce new topics from the floor for discussion.

In an earlier E-mail, I requested suggestions for topics be sent to me. Of the ones received, those listed below seemed to be the most popular.

1. Maintenance of equipment: service contracts ; service contracts vs. third-party vs insurance company or self-insure; timely service

2. Justification of costs/ cost recovery….electronic bookkeeping and billing

3. login systems for instruments/lab security/training

You will notice that they are quite broad and may have to be narrowed down by the "expert" introducing them in order to have a meaningful discussion. I am now looking for the "experts" to introduce topics 1 and 2. Keith Darlington from Elf ATOCHEM North America, Inc has gratiously consented to introduce topic #3. Please E-mail me if you would like to introduce topics 1 or 2 or can recommend someone to do so.

Also, if any of you have information relating to the above topics that can be made available to those attending, please bring handouts or send the info to me and I will have it copied for distribution.

There has been requests to record the session so that those not in attendance can benefit from the discussions. I will try to arrange this if appropriate recording equipment is available.

One final note...I will not arrive at the meetings until Monday so would appreciate a volunteer to put up notices about the session throughout the convention hall on Sunday. Please contact me if you are willing to do this and I will get the notices to you.

Many thanks and PLEASE send me names of individuals I can ask to introduce topics. Also, if you have suggestions about the format of the session, please contact me...there is still plenty of time to modify it.

Debby

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Microscopy Center in Agriculture FAX: 765-494-5896
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From daemon Wed Jul 26 09:37:39 2000



From: Giles, Bill :      William.Giles-at-TIMET.com
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:26:38 -0600
Subject: RE: Polaroid Film Choices

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We must obtain and pay for a permit for any item put into our process waste
stream. Any item not permitted, is considered a "hazardous" waste, and must
be disposed of at great cost.

Also, all waste water must either be ponded or reclaimed, this is now
becoming a large expense for our facility.

Our enviormental department examined each departments waste stream and in
cooperation with the individual departments (thank goodness) made some
determinations as to where we could save not only permit costs but water
usuage.

The processing of the p/n film uses a rather significant amount of water for
my department, not to mention the occassional print production.

Also, you can check Polaroid's site for it's MSDS sheets for all it's
products.http://www.polaroid.com/service/msds/index.html

One positive outcome of this, my request for a new metallograph with a high
end digital camera has been approved!

Anyway, that's the basic scenario. No Federales came in and spanked us,
rather it was a cost-saving(??) measure implemented by our enviormental
group.

Back to my original question: What type of Polaroid do you all use?

William T. Giles
Sr. Electron Microscopist
Met. Lab. Coordinator
Henderson Technical Laboratory
TIMET
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E-mail: Bill.Giles-at-timet.com

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From daemon Wed Jul 26 10:09:02 2000



From: sherwood-at-helix.mgh.harvard.edu (Peggy Sherwood)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:58:32 -0400
Subject: Nitrogen Burst System

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Dear Richard, et al:

We have been using an old model Leedal Sink with nitrogen burst system for
about 12-14 years. Other than having the temperature gauge (which
regulates the temperature of the developer) replaced, the system has been
great! It has metal tanks that have metal rods with holes on the bottom
(where the nitrogen comes through). You regulate the duration of the burst
and the interval between the bursts with a timer built into the sink.
Hoses connect the tanks to the nitrogen tank. The developing and fixing
tanks float in water that is temperature-regulated. This system gives
good, even distribution of the chemicals over the negatives.

(The best part is I got this refurbished sink, racks, darkroom lights, etc.
for $750.00! Can't complain.)

Peggy Sherwood
MGH-Wellman Labs of Photomedicine (W224)
55 Fruit Street
Boston, MA 02114

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From daemon Wed Jul 26 10:23:30 2000



From: Arun Kumar Subramanian :      ksu973-at-merle.acns.nwu.edu
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:11:53 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: TEM : Film

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Dear listers,
We have been using AGFA scientia 23D56 (3.25x4 ") film for years now until
AGFA discontinued that product. I would greatly appreciate any help in
finding a suitable replacement for this film

thanks
--arun

___________________________________
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Graduate Student
Dept of Materials Science & Engg



From daemon Wed Jul 26 13:12:37 2000



From: S.C.Hogg :      S.C.Hogg-at-sheffield.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:58:25 +0100
Subject: TEM dislocation density measurment in Al

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Hello,

I need to measure the dislocation density in an Al-30Si alloy.

I've been told there is a condition that will give the optimum
dislocation contrast which will give some proportion of the total
dislocations.

Does anyone know what these conditions are and the proportion
that this gives (and a reference if possible?)

Also any comments on other methods that don't require one to
measure the thickness of the sample e.g. simply counting the
intersections of dislocations with the surface and dividing by the
area?

Thank-you,

Simon Hogg


University of Sheffield
Department of Engineering Materials
Sir Robert Hadfield Building
Mappin Street
Sheffield
S1 3JD
Tel. 0114 222 5934
Fax. 0114 222 5943


From daemon Wed Jul 26 14:28:52 2000



From: Jen Delille :      jen-at-sl3d.com
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:20:11 -0600
Subject: Flourescent stains- Microscope slides

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Where can I find prepared microscope slides that use flourescence? Or, where
can I find information about how to prepare my own slides with flourescent
stains? I would like such samples for research on 3D microscopy.

Sincerely,

Jennifer Delille

jen-at-sl3d.com



From daemon Wed Jul 26 16:49:37 2000



From: michael shaffer :      mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:36:01 -0700
Subject: RE: Polaroid Film Choices

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William T. Giles writes ...

} Back to my original question: What type of Polaroid do you all use?

Oh yea ... the question.

Type 52 is what we use when we aren't grabbing digital ... but even
then, printing four 1024x800s to the dye-sub proves more cost
effective ... needless-to-say, my type 52 is all past its use-by date.

Type 52 is also ASA400, so you will have to re-calibrate your
exposure. It also doesn't require the smelly "goop".

shAf :o)



From daemon Wed Jul 26 19:33:46 2000



From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:22:31 -0700
Subject: SEM spot size & x-ray analysis

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I've studied Goldstein's book to try and accurately compute
the true spot size of a SEM beam based on the myriad of
factors which influence it. At issue is how to determine the
actual spot size of a beam, in microns, at the specimen.

SEMs from various makers use relative numbers for spot
size. These indicate the relative size of the beam from
"really small" to "largest." "Really small" means low
specimen current but high resolution and the converse
for the large spot size. If one is doing x-ray analysis,
the spot size may or may not be an issue.

If the area being analyzed is large, the spot size is
most likely not all that important. But for the analysis
of small feature size and sub-micron semiconductor devices,
true spot size is an issue. If the beam covers more than
the area of interest, the x-ray data will not accurately
reflect the composition of the intended material.

Therefore, is there some basic limitation of the applicability
of quantitative SEM x-ray analysis based on the size of
the specimen? If so, what is this limit? Also, is there
some way to accurately define the physical size of a
beam at the specimen? If so, what is this method?

Any thoughts on this?

gary g.



From daemon Wed Jul 26 22:15:10 2000



From: Gina Sosinsky :      gsosinsky-at-ucsd.edu
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:05:24 -0700
Subject: Tutorial Sessions for MSA meeting 2000

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Dear Colleagues,

For those of you planning on attending the Microscopy Society of America in
Philadelphia August 13-17 (coming up in a few weeks), I wanted to alert you
to the following program setup.

***** Please note: due to a scheduling snafu, David DeRosier's talk will be
in the morning whereas the other two talks are scheduled for the afternoon
session *****

There are 3 biological tutorials being presented:

David DeRosier: DeRosier's Guide to Three-Dimensional Reconstruction of
Helical Structures
Tuesday 11:00 AM Room 103

Liz Wilson-Kubalek: Structural Analysis of Proteins on Lipid Substrates
Tuesday 3:00 PM Room 103

Steve Ludtke: Single Particle Analysis of Macromolecules and Complexes: How
to Get Started
Tuesday 4:00 PM Room 103

Sincerely,
Gina Sosinsky
Session Chair for Biological Sciences Tutorial

P.S. For those of you who yearn to go beyond electrons, there is also a
joint biological/physical sciences tutorial being given by Dave Piston from
Vanderbilt University on Multi-Photon Excitation Microscopy: An Old Idea
in Quantum Theory Applied to Modern Scientific Problems.
Monday 3:00 PM Room 103
*****************************************
* Gina Sosinsky, PhD. *
* University of California at San Diego *
* 365 San Diego Supercomputer Center *
* 9500 Gilman Drive *
* La Jolla, CA 92093-0505 *
* *
* Note new area codes: *
* 858-534-6264 (office phone & *
* voice mail) *
* 858-534-4583 (lab phone) *
* 858-822-0861 (fax) *
* gsosinsky-at-ucsd.edu (email) *
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From daemon Thu Jul 27 01:16:56 2000



From: Michael Reiner :      Elektronenmikroskopie-at-web.de
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 08:03:49 +0200
Subject: Re: TEM : Film

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Hello Arun Kumar Subramanian,

You can replace the Agfa Scientia Film with Kodak´s SO-163 EM Film without any Problems.
Greetings,
Michael


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From daemon Thu Jul 27 01:52:39 2000



From: Gordon Couger :      gcouger-at-couger.com
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 01:41:55 -0500
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} From: "Gary Gaugler" {gary-at-gaugler.com}
}
} I've studied Goldstein's book to try and accurately compute
} the true spot size of a SEM beam based on the myriad of
} factors which influence it. At issue is how to determine the
} actual spot size of a beam, in microns, at the specimen.
}
} SEMs from various makers use relative numbers for spot
} size. These indicate the relative size of the beam from
} "really small" to "largest." "Really small" means low
} specimen current but high resolution and the converse
} for the large spot size. If one is doing x-ray analysis,
} the spot size may or may not be an issue.
}
} If the area being analyzed is large, the spot size is
} most likely not all that important. But for the analysis
} of small feature size and sub-micron semiconductor devices,
} true spot size is an issue. If the beam covers more than
} the area of interest, the x-ray data will not accurately
} reflect the composition of the intended material.
}
} Therefore, is there some basic limitation of the applicability
} of quantitative SEM x-ray analysis based on the size of
} the specimen? If so, what is this limit? Also, is there
} some way to accurately define the physical size of a
} beam at the specimen? If so, what is this method?
}

Gary,

It was a good deal different set up but the idea should be the same. We
were working with a scanning gamma ray device and the resolution was
measured in hundredths of an inch but we built test samples that we knew
the
size of the metal slug and we knew how far it was between them. We would
do a scan and see if we could resolve them.

It would be a lot tougher to build the model for what you want to do than
for us. We used drill bits in Plexiglas. But if you coat various spacing
grids with something that shows up in your X-ray scans and then polish the
peaks off you should be able to get islands of various sizes and spacing
to do your calibration.

We were primarily using gamma rays for image reconstruction using a Raydon

transform but we did some work with fluoresced x-rays. The gamma beam was
about 3/32 of an inch. The customer did some direct imaging of Plutonium
intrusion into various rocks with it as well. Better him than me.

The device was a gamma source and a detector with the subject on a rotary
table that would move in the X and Z axis.

Gordon
Gordon Couger gcouger-at-couger.com
Stillwater, OK www.couger.com/gcouger
405 624-2855 GMT -6:00










From daemon Thu Jul 27 01:54:46 2000



From: Witold Zielinski :      WIZIEL-at-inmat.pw.edu.pl
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 08:50:25 +0000
Subject: Re: TEM dislocation density measurment in Al

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*From: "S.C.Hogg" {S.C.Hogg-at-sheffield.ac.uk}
*To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
*Date sent: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:58:25 +0100
*Subject: TEM dislocation density measurment in Al
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Hello,

It seems to me that the proportion of the total dislocation
density which are people talking about is very rough estimate.
But for sure two beam condition is the proper one to visualise
dislocations. So, if you want to be acurate try to obtain an image of
dislocation structure in the same area using two perpendicular g
vectors, for example in the [001] zone axies.
Your accuracy in dislocation density estimate depends also on
deformation mode like slip systems involved, cross slip etc. so
using more g vectors you'll be obtaing higher accuracy.

Good luck,

Witold Z.

*
*Hello,
*
*I need to measure the dislocation density in an Al-30Si alloy.
*
*I've been told there is a condition that will give the optimum
*dislocation contrast which will give some proportion of the total
*dislocations.
*
*Does anyone know what these conditions are and the proportion
*that this gives (and a reference if possible?)
*
*Also any comments on other methods that don't require one to
*measure the thickness of the sample e.g. simply counting the
*intersections of dislocations with the surface and dividing by the
*area?
*
*Thank-you,
*
*Simon Hogg
*
*
*University of Sheffield
*Department of Engineering Materials
*Sir Robert Hadfield Building
*Mappin Street
*Sheffield
*S1 3JD
*Tel. 0114 222 5934
*Fax. 0114 222 5943
*
*
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Witold Zielinski, Ph.D.
Warsaw University of Technology
Department of Materials Science and Engineering
02-507 Warszawa, Woloska 141
POLAND

phone #: /48 22/ 660 84 41
fax #: /48 22/ 848 48 75


From daemon Thu Jul 27 03:21:26 2000



From: rlvaughn-at-unmc.edu
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:46:41 -0500
Subject: Job Posting TEM

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I was asked before I leave to post this job opening. It's been great
reading about all our trials and tribulations. I have probably ran into
some of you at the meetings which were always fun. Dr. Rodriguez-Sierra is
attempting to go to the meetings to place an advertisement at the Forums'
booth. Thanks for all the help in the past.

Rick Vaughn

The Electron Microscopy Core Research Facility at the University of
Nebraska Medical Center (UNMC) in Omaha, NE has an opening for a Biomedical
EM Technologist to direct the laboratory and support research projects that
involve transmission electron microscopy. The laboratory is well equipped
and has a history of excellent productivity and adequate funding.

The successful candidate for this position will possess at least a
Bachelor's degree in Biology with experience in electron microscopy.
Additional courses or experience in immunocytochemistry, Cell Biology, and
digital imaging is desirable. Operating knowledge of transmission electron
microscopes is preferred. The applicant must have excellent communicative
skills and the ability to work well with a variety of personalities.

The EM technologist interacts with all laboratory users in order to
accomplish specific research goals with respect to preparation for a
variety of biomedical samples for TEM, operation of TEM, darkroom
developing and printing, digital image capture and reporting. The
technologist will also assist the faculty in the laboratory section of EM
graduate courses.

UNMC offers a competitive salary and benefits package. UNMC is a equal
opportunity employer.


If interested, please submit a cover letter and resume to:
Dr. Jorge F. Rodriguez-Sierra
Department of Cell Biology and Anatomy
University of Nebraska Medical Center, Omaha, NE 68198-6395
Fax: 402-559-7328
Phone 402-559-6259
e-mail: jrodrigu-at-unmc.edu



From daemon Thu Jul 27 03:23:17 2000



From: emitech :      em-at-emitech.demon.co.uk
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:16:37 +0100
Subject: Re: TEM : Film

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Dear Arun,

We have been recommended Kodak SO-163 3 1/4" x 4" Film to replace, it
has a similar speed, transfer to this type should be accomplished with
minimal changes to exposure and development. Alternatively the Kodak
4489 which is slower film, which has been widely used for biological
applications where high contrast is desirable. we can supply if required
Boxes of 100, please contact off line.

Kind Regards,


Christine Fitzgerald

In message {Pine.HPP.3.93.1000726100957.15489F-
100000-at-merle.acns.nwu.edu} , Arun Kumar Subramanian
{ksu973-at-merle.acns.nwu.edu} writes
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From: Joergen Bilde-Soerensen 5802 :      j.bilde-at-risoe.dk
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:29:09 +0200
Subject: Re: TEM dislocation density measurment in Al

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Simon Hogg wrote:
} I need to measure the dislocation density in an Al-30Si alloy.
}
} I've been told there is a condition that will give the optimum
} dislocation contrast which will give some proportion of the total
} dislocations.
}
} Does anyone know what these conditions are and the proportion
} that this gives (and a reference if possible?)
}
} Also any comments on other methods that don't require one to
} measure the thickness of the sample e.g. simply counting the
} intersections of dislocations with the surface and dividing by the
} area?

Hi Simon,

There are a number of problems to consider if you want to measure
dislocation density by TEM. (i) The dislocations may rearrange during
preparation of the thin foil because of image forces. (ii) Some of the
dislocations may be out of contrast under the diffraction conditions
used. (iii) There may be a preponderance of certain Burgers vectors. (iv)
The line vectors may not be evenly distributed in space.

I think most dislocation density measurements have been made under
some simplifying assumptions that make them - as Witold Zielinski wrote
- very rough estimates. Images are taken with a given two-beam
condition. If, for instance, the material is fcc and the reflection is 200, it is
then assumed that 1/3 of the dislocations will be out of contrast for this
reflection. It is further assumed that the stereological equation (which
assumes a random line vector distribution) is valid. A result obtained
under such assumptions is not necessarily very exact.

As Witold wrote, you can try to image all dislocations by taking several
images under different diffraction conditions. (You can also do this in a
single image with a hollow-cone technique). This still leaves you with
points (i) and (iv).

With respect to (i) you will e.g. in pure Al find that the dislocation
density varies with foil thickness because relatively more dislocations
are lost from the thinner parts of the foil. In other words use as thick a
foil as possible.

With respect to (iv): the method that requires measurement of the foil
thickness gives you the advantage that you can count intersections with
lines of various orientations (or with a circle). If you count intersections
with the surface, you have to assume that the line vectors are evenly
distributed in space (consider the extreme case that all dislocation lines
are parallel to the surface).

Instead of counting individual dislocations in a TEM it is also possible
to measure line broadening in selected area channelling patterns in a
scanning microscope or in X-ray diffractograms.

Best regards,
Jorgen



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From daemon Thu Jul 27 07:25:58 2000



From: White, Woody N :      Woody.N.White-at-mcdermott.com
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 07:59:00 -0500
Subject: Re:SEM spot size & x-ray analysis

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Gary,

The beam size plays an important role in determining the size of a particle
or
feature one can analyze. Obviously the beam diameter must be smaller than
the
location to be analyzed and typically larger beam diameters indicate hagher
current and count rates. The real determinant of what size can be analyzed
without influence from surounding material is what "analysis volume" size is
generated. The diameter of the analysis volume will never be smaller than
the
beam. It is usually much larger due to scattering within the specimen.
Parameters which influence the analysis volume size and shape include the
composition of the material being analyzed, the surface condition of the
specimen, the angle of the incident beam, and the potential of the beam
(kV).
Hope I didn't forget one... If I recall correctly, Goldstein, et al, does
cover this effect in the book.

Don Chernoff has available (http://www.small-world.net/efs.htm) a program
which
models the analysis volume. A similar but less flexable program came with
my
(former) Kevex EDS in the mid 80s. I have not tried the EFS software, nor
have
I any ties to small-world.

Woody White
McDermott Technology, Inc.


From daemon Thu Jul 27 07:51:27 2000



From: George Laing :      scisales-at-ngscorp.com
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 08:43:21 -0700
Subject: RE: Nitrogen developer agitation

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Arkay makes an affordable gas burst controller as well as water jacket/
tank systems for sheet film developing. Leedal also produces excellent
jacket/tank systems. Both are available with gas burst plenums as
required.
Neither Leedal or Regal/Arkay has an active website that I could find.
I will forward information to anyone who wishes to contact me directly.

George Laing
National Graphic Supply
scisales-at-ngscorp.com

} Dear All,
} Just wondering if anyone out there uses a nitrogen bubble system to
agitate
} their film processing solutions in tanks. We are considering such a
system
} but I would like a clearer idea about the set-up before going ahead and
} asking our workshop to make the system.
}
} If anyone has such a system which is being used for sheet negs I would
} appreciate a rough description how it works. ie
}
} 1) what the layout of tubes on the bottom of the tanks is like
}
} 2) what kind of control system is used to set the bubbling intervals
} (presumably something like a solenoid on a timer connected through a
} regulator on to a N2-filled cylinder?)
}
} Are there any problems or drawbacks to the systems which are in use? Are
} they worth the trouble of setting up and maintaining?
}
}
} Best regards,
}
} Richard
}
}
} Richard Easingwood
} South Campus Electron Microscope Unit
} School of Medical Sciences, University of Otago
} PO Box 913, Dunedin
} NEW ZEALAND
}
} Telephone: 64-03-479 7301 Facsimile: 64-03-479 7254
} mailto:richard.easingwood-at-stonebow.otago.ac.nz
} http://anatomy.otago.ac.nz:800/Department/EMUnit.html
} http://www.otago.ac.nz/anatomy/emunit/
}
}
}
}
}
}

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From daemon Thu Jul 27 08:49:36 2000



From: Jonathan Barnard :      Jonathan.Barnard-at-angstrom.uu.se
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:22:28 +0200
Subject: TEM: dislocations in Al-30Si

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Simon,
My advice would be to do a series of two-beam dark field images with the
Bragg reflection (g) chosen to optimise the g.b condition (b = Burgers
vector). First find out the dominant dislocation types in Al & Si alone (or
any other similar alloy) as a guide for the Burgers vectors you could
possibly expect. If you can, try a reflection which makes g.b non zero for
all dislocation types (giving contrast for all dislocations), and then
subsequently select reflections that give g.b=0 for each type of
dislocation (or g.b non-zero for one dislocation type).
This procedure will allow you to deduce population densities for each
dislocation type. If the dislocation density is too high i.e. you cannot
resolve individual dislocations, then try a weak beam dark field imaging
instead e.g g-3g (3g set to Bragg, g imaged). Contrast in these images come
from the more highly strained crystal regions close to the dislocation core
and one can narrow the contrast down to the order of nanometers.

A note on your definition of dislocation densities. You mention dividing by
an area. Does this mean you are calculating the areal density or a volume
density? The former is usually attributed to growing thin films, and most
of the dislocation emanate from the initial interface. In that case you if
you are looking at a cross-section, you will need to know the thickness,
whereas a plan-view sample doesn't. For volume densities again you will
need the thickness too. Areal densities are pretty meaningless in 3D.

Dislocation analysis is a fantastic area with a huge history, and I would
advise you take a look at two books. Firstly Hirsch, Howie, Nicholson,
Whelan & Pashley (Electron Microscopy of Thin Crystals), described as the
Bible of transmission electron microscopy, has several chapters related to
imperfect crystals, and the black and white photos are quite beautiful,
even just to look at. Any time invested with this book pays off big.
A more modern book is Williams & Carter (Transmission Electron Microscopy)
and is extremely helpful. Again a superb selection of pictures and diagrams
will help you with the theory and practice.
********************************************************
Dr Jonathan Barnard

Analytical Materials Physics
The Angstrom Laboratory, Uppsala University
P O Box 534, SE-751 21 Uppsala, Sweden
Phone: +46-(0)18-4716838 Fax: +46-(0)18-500131
Phone: Microscope room +46 18 471 6365
http://www.angstrom.uu.se/analytical/home.html
********************************************************



From daemon Thu Jul 27 09:14:34 2000



From: Philip Oshel :      peoshel-at-facstaff.wisc.edu
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:07:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Polaroid Film Choices

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Whatever for? What would the environmental folks disagree about with
the 55 processing? The sulphite? That's sprayed on fruit at the
grocery store. The coater? I hate that myself, but it's no worse than
regular darkroom chemicals.

T 52 won't replace T 55, as it has no negative. I don't think T 53 or
T 54 do either, but I'm not sure. The T 55 negative is an *excellent*
negative (in spite of some folks' comments otherwise) with about 3X
the resolution of the T55 positive and 2 more zones of contrast. No
positive-only film or digital camera can equal it. If you have to get
rid of T 55, you're better off changing camera backs and using 4X5
negative sheet film. Good photo stores should have this, or the big
mail-order companies like Helix or Shutan (in the back of photography
mags).

Phil

} Howdy List,
}
} I need to stop using Polaroid T-55 p/n sheet film in my lab(good bye old
} friend). The enviormental guys got to us.
}
} The question is, what to replace it with? T-52, T-53 or T-54.
}
} We will be using it primarily in our old Cambridge 250, inverted
} metallograph, and some macro stand usage.
}
} Its use will be limited as our new JEOL SEM and inverted metallograph are
} going digital.
}
} Any suggestions?
}
}
} William T. Giles
} Sr. Electron Microscopist
} Met. Lab. Coordinator
} Henderson Technical Laboratory
} TIMET
} PO Box 2128 Henderson NV 89009
} Ph: (702)566-4436
} Fax: (702)564-9038
} E-mail: Bill.Giles-at-timet.com

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University of Wisconsin
1656 Linden Drive
Madison, WI 53706-1581
voice: (608) 263-4162
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From daemon Thu Jul 27 09:14:34 2000



From: Leona Cohen-Gould :      lcgould-at-mail.med.cornell.edu
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:57:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Flourescent stains- Microscope slides

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}
}
} Where can I find prepared microscope slides that use flourescence? Or, where
} can I find information about how to prepare my own slides with flourescent
} stains? I would like such samples for research on 3D microscopy.
}
} Sincerely,
}
} Jennifer Delille
}
} jen-at-sl3d.com
**********************
Jennifer,
Its unclear what you wnat to do....Are you planning to work with biological
samples that have been labelled with fluorescent markers, or is this a
materials-related project?
For biological samples, "normal" glass slides are fine. You usually do
need to treat the slides in some way to get your samples (sections of
tissue) to stick well enough to survive the multiple steps involved in the
labelling process. The traditional method is to sub (coat) the slides with
a gelatin-chrom alum solution. You can also use slides that have been
treated by the manufacturer (silanized or the mysterious but useful "plus"
slides).

The fluorescent labelling protocols depend on what you wih to look at.
some are quite simple, such as the use of propidium iodide to label nuclei,
others are multi-step, antibody protocls. You can find descriptions of
these in the many good texts about immuncytochemistry.

If you have some materials-related project in mind, someone else will have
to address that, I'm atrictly a biologicals person.

Lee

Leona Cohen-Gould, M.S.
Sr. Staff Associate
Director, Electron Microscopy Core Facility
Manager, Optical Microscopy Core Facility
Joan & Sanford I. Weill Medical College
of Cornell University
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From daemon Thu Jul 27 09:48:15 2000



From: jim :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:17:56 +1000
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Its some time since I've looked at Goldstein's book, but I am sure you have
missed a chapter. First, its important to note that in microanalyses the area
irradiated is always smaller than the area you are collecting X-rays from. Its
all related to the penetrating envelope, Monte Carlo patterns, kV used and
average atomic number of the area under the beam. Typically, using a small
spot, you may at 15kV collect X-rays from a 20 um radius and depths if your
specimen is biological and only from 3um if its moderately heavy in atomic
numbers.
A good analyst would standardize all parameters, but probe current is more
important than spot size. A dedicated microprobe is equipped with a
lightmicroscope which has two main functions: Adjusting the specimen height to
the correct position (taking advantage of the lightmicroscope's poor depths of
view (or field) and visualising the beam spot so this can be centered, so the
spot is were we think it is. The beam is visualised through the lightmicroscope
by using a fluorescent mineral (Willemite). Centering using deflection coils
and adjusting the beam (or spot) size is easy with that scope. Without an
attached lightmicroscope, a small intense beam could be measured later by the
burnmark left on a sensitive specimen. As an aside, geologists new to
microanalysis are generally appalled by the poor quality of the lighmicroscope.
They are rarely fond of learning to use atomic number contrast and to do their
lightmicroscopy before a probe session.
However, I wonder about the usefulness of the proposed exercise, because the
relative beam size is usually less important because X-ray resolution is much
less than beam size anyway. All of the above applies of course to SEMs/Probes
since in a TEM (thin sections) the penetrating envelope is chopped off and the
beam diameter plus a bit becomes the area analysed.
Don't rush off and buy a TEM with analytical facilities, they have other
disadvantages in microanalyses.
Hope this clarified something . .
I should also disclaim: ProSciTech supplies WDS/EDS standards.
Cheers
Jim Darley
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On Thursday, July 27, 2000 10:23 AM, Gary Gaugler [SMTP:gary-at-gaugler.com]
wrote:
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} I've studied Goldstein's book to try and accurately compute
} the true spot size of a SEM beam based on the myriad of
} factors which influence it. At issue is how to determine the
} actual spot size of a beam, in microns, at the specimen.
}
} SEMs from various makers use relative numbers for spot
} size. These indicate the relative size of the beam from
} "really small" to "largest." "Really small" means low
} specimen current but high resolution and the converse
} for the large spot size. If one is doing x-ray analysis,
} the spot size may or may not be an issue.
}
} If the area being analyzed is large, the spot size is
} most likely not all that important. But for the analysis
} of small feature size and sub-micron semiconductor devices,
} true spot size is an issue. If the beam covers more than
} the area of interest, the x-ray data will not accurately
} reflect the composition of the intended material.
}
} Therefore, is there some basic limitation of the applicability
} of quantitative SEM x-ray analysis based on the size of
} the specimen? If so, what is this limit? Also, is there
} some way to accurately define the physical size of a
} beam at the specimen? If so, what is this method?
}
} Any thoughts on this?
}
} gary g.
}



From daemon Thu Jul 27 10:10:23 2000



From: michael shaffer :      mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 07:59:02 -0700
Subject: RE: SEM spot size & x-ray analysis

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Gary writes ...

} Therefore, is there some basic limitation of the applicability
} of quantitative SEM x-ray analysis based on the size of
} the specimen? If so, what is this limit? Also, is there
} some way to accurately define the physical size of a
} beam at the specimen? If so, what is this method?

The applicability for the spot size regarding x-ray analysis would
have as much to do with the energy of the beam, i.e., the interaction
volume for x-ray generation (not to mention the possibility of x-ray
fluorescence within the surrounding material.

The best method for determining the spot size for any beam parameter,
is to examine the y-modulated intensity for a "knife edge". For
example, a perfect orthoganal slope would indicate infinitely small
.. for anything else you would determine the 'x' distance at 80% and
20% of the 'y' intensity (although these numbers could be debated).

cheerios, =shAf= :o)

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Geological Science's Electron Probe Facility - University of Oregon
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From daemon Thu Jul 27 10:18:03 2000



From: chris smith :      chris.smith-at-bbsrc.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:06:01 +0100
Subject: TEM film

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Hi Arun & Listers,
Kodak SO-163 has a similar speed rating to AFGA Scientia 23D56 & is
available in the same size.
Chris Smith, IACR-Rothamsted,UK.


From daemon Thu Jul 27 10:48:18 2000



From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:30:11 -0400
Subject: Re: SEM spot size & x-ray analysis

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Gary Gaugler wrote:

Dear Gary,


} I've studied Goldstein's book to try and accurately compute
} the true spot size of a SEM beam based on the myriad of
} factors which influence it. At issue is how to determine the
} actual spot size of a beam, in microns, at the specimen.
}

As others have already said, the relevant size is that
of the volume from which x-rays are generated, and that
is larger than the beam due to scattering within the specimen.


}
} SEMs from various makers use relative numbers for spot
} size. These indicate the relative size of the beam from
} "really small" to "largest." "Really small" means low
} specimen current but high resolution and the converse
} for the large spot size. If one is doing x-ray analysis,
} the spot size may or may not be an issue.
}

If the spot size is small compared to the distances
that the electrons will typically be scattered, then the x-ray
emission volume will be nearly independent of spot size,
but if the relevant scattering distance is small, then the spot
size will affect the spatial resolution of the analysis. Fur-
thermore, the emission volume will be smaller if the over-
voltage for the line of interest is low. This is because scat-
tering through large angles--which leads to large trans-
verse momentum and large effective spot size--results in
large transfer of kinetic energy, thus lower (or zero) cross
section for the production of the line of interest. So if you
use the k-lines and a relatively low voltage, the x-rays
will be emitted from a smaller volume than if you use l-
lines with the same voltage or k-lines with a higher vol-
tage.



} If the area being analyzed is large, the spot size is
} most likely not all that important. But for the analysis
} of small feature size and sub-micron semiconductor devices,
} true spot size is an issue. If the beam covers more than
} the area of interest, the x-ray data will not accurately
} reflect the composition of the intended material.
}

Yes, although knowing the characteristics of the
emission volume could allow you to deconvolute that
effect and get a better idea of the compositions of the
small areas of interest. That is, if you know the compo-
sition of one area and the apparent composition of an
adjacent area, you could use a Monte Carlo simulation to
compute the part of the apparent composition due to x-rays
generated within the first area. There are many such simu-
lation programs out there, and you want one which will
calculate not only the paths of the electrons, but also the
x-ray production. I do not know which of the simulation
programs will do this, but perhaps their authors will tell
you.


}
} Therefore, is there some basic limitation of the applicability
} of quantitative SEM x-ray analysis based on the size of
} the specimen? If so, what is this limit? Also, is there
} some way to accurately define the physical size of a
} beam at the specimen? If so, what is this method?
}

Yes. It depends on specimen composition and what is
of interest. Yes. Either simulation or doing an experiment
with a specimen that has well characterized features of known
size and composition. This specimen should be as similar to
what you're trying to measure as possible to assure that both
features of interest and matrix effects are well modelled. In
the case of semiconductor devices, perhaps the Ge stripes in
Si matrix of a MAGICAL test specimen could be used. (I
have no connection with MAGICAL except as a user.)
Yours,
Bill Tivol



From daemon Thu Jul 27 11:24:57 2000



From: Mary Mager :      mager-at-interchange.ubc.ca
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:11:29 -0700
Subject: Re: SEM spot size & x-ray analysis (longish)

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Dear Gary,
Yes, there certainly is a size limit to a specimen or phase or particle in
the specimen to get accurate SEM x-ray analysis. I use the Small World's
Electron Flight Simulator to get a good estimate of the size of the electron
interaction volume in a given material. These are all Monte Carlo
mathematical simulations, since the SEM spot is not a spot, but a fuzzy disk
and the volume is a randomly generated approximation based on the factors
influencing the interaction of the electrons and material of the solid. What
is seldom mentioned is that the the x-rays generated by the primary
electrons can also spread laterally in the solid and these x-rays can spread
much further than the initial excitation volume and excite secondary x-rays
several microns away. These secondary x-ray effects vaary widely, dependant
on which elements are being excited and fluoresced.
There are two ways to test these effects. The first is to carefully scan the
SEM beam across a sharp interface between two materials, such as Ni plated
on polished Cu, and record the shape of the Ni and Cu line scans. The length
of the curve dropping between 100% Cu and 0% Cu will tell you the size of
the beam interaction volume in the solid (which is not the spot size, but
the size of the x-ray generation volume). The second is to drill a small
hole in a copper planchet and stick a tungsten aperture over the hole.
Slowly scan the beam over the Cu, W and Faraday cup and see where you can
see Cu and W x-rays. This gives you some idea of the beam spread and x-ray
scatter.
At 05:22 PM 7/26/00 -0700, you wrote:

} I've studied Goldstein's book to try and accurately compute
} the true spot size of a SEM beam based on the myriad of
} factors which influence it. At issue is how to determine the
} actual spot size of a beam, in microns, at the specimen.
}
} SEMs from various makers use relative numbers for spot
} size. These indicate the relative size of the beam from
} "really small" to "largest." "Really small" means low
} specimen current but high resolution and the converse
} for the large spot size. If one is doing x-ray analysis,
} the spot size may or may not be an issue.
}
} If the area being analyzed is large, the spot size is
} most likely not all that important. But for the analysis
} of small feature size and sub-micron semiconductor devices,
} true spot size is an issue. If the beam covers more than
} the area of interest, the x-ray data will not accurately
} reflect the composition of the intended material.
}
} Therefore, is there some basic limitation of the applicability
} of quantitative SEM x-ray analysis based on the size of
} the specimen? If so, what is this limit? Also, is there
} some way to accurately define the physical size of a
} beam at the specimen? If so, what is this method?
}
} Any thoughts on this?
}
} gary g.

Regards,
Mary

Mary Mager
Electron Microscopist
Metals and Materials Engineering
University of British Columbia
6350 Stores Road
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4
CANADA
tel: 604-822-5648
e-mail: mager-at-interchg.ubc.ca



From daemon Thu Jul 27 11:44:34 2000



From: Belluso elena :      belluso-at-dsmp.unito.it
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:33:03 +0200 (MDT)
Subject: rotation angle between SAED and image in TEM

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Hello everyone,
I have a TEM Philips CM12 and one problem of this type of microscope is to
know all the rotation angles between the SAED pattern and the image in every
magnification. Surely it is possible to use a test specimen to determine
this angles, but may be there is someone had done this and he have this list
and he can help me.

Thank you everyone,
Elena Belluso



----------------------------------------------------
Elena BELLUSO
Dipartimento di Scienze Mineralogiche e Petrologiche
Via Valperga Caluso, 35
I-10125 TORINO - ITALIA
tel:(39) 011 670 7135 - fax: (39) 011 670 7128
e-mail: belluso-at-dsmp.unito.it
http://www.dsmp.unito.it
----------------------------------------------------



From daemon Thu Jul 27 11:50:09 2000



From: michael shaffer :      mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:39:16 -0700
Subject: SE: JEOL 840/63xx noisy roughing pump

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Our roughing pump which service our JSM6300 has began making a
rumbling noise which I might believe is bearings ... altho it could be
the pump's bearings or the motor's. Has anyone serviced this problem?

tia and cheerios, =shAf= :o)

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Geological Science's Electron Probe Facility - University of Oregon
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From daemon Thu Jul 27 12:51:19 2000



From: Adriana Pinheiro Martinelli Rodriguez :      adriana-at-cena.usp.br
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:41:49 -300
Subject: LM: in situ hybridization

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Dear list member:

Would someone direct me to websites and/or texts about in situ hybridization techniques? I'll be working with gene expression in shoot meristems from plant material (in vivo and in vitro).
For regular LM I use glutaraldehyde+paraformaldehyde as a fixative and Historesin (Leica) for embedding, but I don't think this method would be appropriate.
I'd appreciate some input.
Thank you very much in advance

Adriana


From daemon Thu Jul 27 13:34:47 2000



From: Rahbari, Ramin :      RAMIN.RAHBARI-at-WL.com
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:23:09 -0400
Subject: Re: antibody

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Are you sure the endothelial cells you're after express PECAM1/CD31 in
appreciable amounts. I have found a great deal of disparity in CD31
staining in mouse tissue. I would suggest vWF or factor VIII or AP2 as
potential substitutes.

Ramin Rahbari
Pfizer Global Research & Development
Drug Safety Evaluation
2800 Plymouth Road
Ann Arbor, MI 48105
Voice (734) 622-3383
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-----Original Message-----
} From: Michael Reiner [mailto:Elektronenmikroskopie-at-web.de]
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 5:32 AM
To: Neelima Shah; Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


Hello Neelima Shah!

Did you try PECAM-1/CD31 (rat) from Pharmingen? It must work well at least
using a pre-embedding protocol without permeabilization.

Greetings,
Michael Reiner

University of Cologne, Germany
Department of Anatomy I



} Anyone out there know of any antibody that would be specific for mouse
} endothelial cells?? We are trying to identify endothelial cells in tumors
} as well as cultured endothelial cells. I know a lot of them work for LM
} after various treatments. I seem to have had no luck so far staining at EM

} level. I would appreciate all the input.Thanks in advance.....
} Neelima Shah..............
} Biomedical Imaging Core Facility
} Uni of Pennsylvania
} Philadelphia, Pa.
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}
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}
} http://www.MED.upenn.edu/morphlab/
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From daemon Thu Jul 27 13:52:09 2000



From: Tamara Howard :      howard-at-cshl.org
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:35:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: LM: in situ hybridization

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I have 2 review refs for mRNA in situ in plants:

Jackson, D.P. 1991. In situ hybridization in plants. In: Molecular Plant
Pathology - A Practical Approach. (sorry, I don't have the page numbers)

McFadden, G.I. 1995. In situ hybridization. Meth. Cell Biol. 49:165-183

Good luck!

Tamara Howard
CSHL

On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Adriana Pinheiro Martinelli Rodriguez wrote:

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} Would someone direct me to websites and/or texts about in situ hybridization techniques? I'll be working with gene expression in shoot meristems from plant material (in vivo and in vitro).
} For regular LM I use glutaraldehyde+paraformaldehyde as a fixative and Historesin (Leica) for embedding, but I don't think this method would be appropriate.
} I'd appreciate some input.
} Thank you very much in advance
}
} Adriana
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From daemon Thu Jul 27 13:59:59 2000



From: Warren Davis :      warren.davis-at-path.utah.edu
Date: 27 Jul 2000 12:46:27 -0600
Subject: LM-Medical Systems Corp.

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I have recently inherited a great deal of equipment (stage warmers,
micro-incubators, perfusion chambers, etc) distributed by Medical Systems Corp. of Greenvale, NY. I've been told that they're still productive, yet I've been unable to locate any current contact information. Does anyone know whether they still exist and how I might be able to contact them?

Warren Davis
Cell Imaging Facility
School of Medicine
University of Utah
40 N. 2030 E.
Bldg. 585, Rm. 55
Salt Lake City, UT 84112
Ph: (801) 587-7964
email: warren.davis-at-path.utah.edu




From daemon Thu Jul 27 14:50:13 2000



From: ldm microscopy :      ldm2-at-risc4.numis.nwu.edu
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:53:25 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Postdoctoral Opening

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A postdoctoral position is open immediatesly for work on
Environmental Catalysts using UHV-TEM. The position will involve
looking at the the surface structure of a number of different oxides
as a function of gas treatments using our UHV instrument (see
http://www.numis.nwu.edu .) Experience in catalysis, UHV systems and
a strong background in TEM (not just a few courses) preferred. Send a
CV and letters of recommendation (or referees names) to

Laurence Marks
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Email preferred over snail mail.






From daemon Thu Jul 27 15:14:28 2000



From: Evgenia Pekarskaya :      evgenia-at-caltech.edu
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:01:28 -0700
Subject: Re: TEM dislocation density measurment in Al

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Dear Simon,

What is frequently measured in TEM is scalar dislocation density (the
sign of dislocations
is not taken into account), even though this is not the only thing
that it is possible to measure (e.g. excessive dislocation density).

Concerning the scalar dislocation density (which is simply called
dislocation density), it is better to use such diffraction conditions
when there are several strong reflections present, then most of the
dislocations should be visible. I would recommend to use this
condition. However, as Witold Zielinski wrote, you can use two-beam
conditions but then you should take several images at different
conditions and analyze what is visible and what is not.
Alternatively, using two beam conditions a correction factor can be
introduced (see ref. 1 below).

It is also very important to know the thickness of the analyzed
area, you will need it to calculate dislocation density in your
material.

Another important consideration is rearrangement of dislocations due
to the stress relaxation after removal of the load and during
thinning due to the image force. Therefore, it is better to analyze
thicker area of the sample. You can calculate this force (ref 3) and
estimate the thickness of the sample where you should perform your
measurement for a particular material.

Total error of your measurements, which you can estimate (e.g. ref
10), will be around 20%.

I would recommend to look through this references. If you won't find
everything you need, you can contact me directly and I will fax you
some additional information.

1. Hirsch et al. 1965
Electron Microscopy of thin crystals

2. D.G. Brandon, Y. Komem
Metallography, 1970, v.3, 111

3. A. Seeger,
Handbuch der Physik, 1955, v. VII/1, 560.

4. J.W. Steeds, Roc. Roy. Soc., 1966, A292, p.343

5. J.E. Bailey, Phil. Mag. 1963, v. 8, p.223.

6. J.R. Hancock, Phil. Mag., 1968, 18, p. 1235

7. Baker T.N., ed. 1983
Yield, flow and fracture of polycrystals
London, Applied Science, 1983

8. Ecob R.C.,
J. Microscopy, 137, 1985, p. 3

9. Ivanov A.I.Y., Mezhennyi O., Ostrov A.E., Fomicheva E.I.
Zavodskaya laboratoriya, 53 (2), 1987, p.43 (this is in Russian, but
there is a copy of this paper in English).

10. Staker M.R. and Holt D.L
Acta metall. 20, 1972, p. 569

11. Finally, there is an excellent book in Russian, may be you can
find somebody to translate to you several pages from there.
Utevskii L.M. "Diffraction elecron microscopy in metallurgy", Moscow,
Metallrgiya, 1973.

Good luck,

Evgenia



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From daemon Thu Jul 27 15:21:42 2000



From: Tina Carvalho :      tina-at-pbrc.hawaii.edu
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:10:40 -1000 (HST)
Subject: M&M2000 Exhibitor Demonstrations

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For those of you attending Microscopy & Microanalysis 2000 in Philadelphia
next month-

Once again, MSA's Education Committee is organizing mini-seminars or
tutorial demonstrations known as "Exhibitor Demonstrations". These
sessions are conducted by Exhibitors in their booths on Tuesday evening
from 5:00 to 6:00 pm (or some fraction thereof). To attend one of these
demonstrations you must sign up at MSA's Education Booth, now part of the
MSA "Mega-Booth", before Tuesday noon. You will be issued a ticket that
will allow you back into the Exhibit Hall after it is closed to regular
attendees that evening. A list of titles and a short description of each
demonstration will be available at the Education Booth. While you are
there, see what else the Education Committee has to offer! Below is a
current list of participating Exhibitors:

Advanced Microscopy Techniques
Digital Instruments/Veeco Metrology Group
E.A. Fischione Instruments
EDAX
Electron Microscopy Sciences
Energy Beam Sciences
Evex Analytical
FEI Company
Illumea Corp.
KS Electron Technologies
LEO Electron Microscopes
Microbiology International/Syncroscopy
Micro Photonics
Microscopy/Marketing & Education
Motic
NORAN Instruments
Photon Technology International
SELA USA
South Bay Technology
Ted Pella
TSL

See you in Philly-

Tina

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From daemon Thu Jul 27 16:26:50 2000



From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:01:59 -0700
Subject: Re:SEM spot size & x-ray analysis

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Yes, it is covered but does not seem to lead one to a finite conclusion.
The big variable is electron optics. My current FESEM has a flat pole
piece. My LaB6 SEM has a 60 degree conical lens. Other units
have different angles. The lens design must play some major portion
of the whole operation of getting from the emitter to the specimen. It
is a tight system.


} Don Chernoff has available (http://www.small-world.net/efs.htm) a program
} which
} models the analysis volume. A similar but less flexable program came with
} my
} (former) Kevex EDS in the mid 80s. I have not tried the EFS software, nor
} have
} I any ties to small-world.
}
} Woody White
} McDermott Technology, Inc.

Thanks for the URL. I will check this link out.

gary g.



From daemon Thu Jul 27 17:17:19 2000



From: White, Woody N :      Woody.N.White-at-mcdermott.com
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:50:00 -0500
Subject: Re[2]:SEM spot size & x-ray analysis

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Since so many variables come into play, it is not surprising that details
are a bit vague in the book. Haven't referred to it in quite a while and
I forget the exact wording...
Taming the variables is where the statistical software is handy.

I can't imagine differing lens construction making a difference in the
analysis volume other than a conical lens permitting higher tilt angles
for certain specimens which will cause the volume to skew along the
surface (the incident beam angle variable). Have I missed something?

Since the beam diameter is typically MUCH smaller than the analysis
volume, variations in its size will not significantly affect the
x-ray analysis resolution. One exception to this is WDS analysis.
Sometimes HUGE beam currents are desired. This can lead to a(fat)beam
that will limit x-ray resolution. Generally speaking, if you can see a
crisp SE image at the desired magnification, the lens configuration
and beam diameter are not part of the analysis volume equation.
At this point you may or may not have enough beam current to achieve
the desired count rate.
Rule of thumb: Only if you must increase the beam current/spot size
(to raise the count rate) until the SE image is no longer well resolved
is it time consider beam size affecting the outcome.

Woody
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Yes, it is covered but does not seem to lead one to a finite conclusion.
The big variable is electron optics. My current FESEM has a flat pole
piece. My LaB6 SEM has a 60 degree conical lens. Other units
have different angles. The lens design must play some major portion
of the whole operation of getting from the emitter to the specimen. It
is a tight system.


} Don Chernoff has available (http://www.small-world.net/efs.htm) a program
} which
} models the analysis volume. A similar but less flexable program came with
} my
} (former) Kevex EDS in the mid 80s. I have not tried the EFS software, nor
} have
} I any ties to small-world.
}
} Woody White
} McDermott Technology, Inc.

Thanks for the URL. I will check this link out.

gary g.


From daemon Thu Jul 27 17:36:45 2000



From: waltew82-at-eng.uab.edu
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:21:49 -0500
Subject: double image of TEM filament

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Hello I am observing a double image from my TEM filament. The microscope has
been aligned over and over. If anyone has seen this please help
Thanks
Wilbur


From daemon Fri Jul 28 19:40:30 2000



From: Nestor J. Zaluzec :      zaluzec-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:02:32 -0500
Subject: Administrivia: Surplus Equipment Forum

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Colleagues....

A few days ago I reminded everyone about the abuses that
were starting to creep into the Listserver Re: Selling of Items.

At that time I promised to create something which would address
that issue. Well I've bitten the bullet and got the prototype completed
and running.

There now exists a WWW site where any individual can post
an electronic advertisement to dispose of SURPLUS equipment (ie not
new instrument sales). This site is open to all individuals,
organizations and vendors. The URL is:

http://www.msa.microscopy.com/SurplusEquipment/SurplusLisings.html

This is not intended to take the place of the Vendor News
Forum which has been running for over a year at:

http://www.msa.microscopy.com/News/NewsListings.html


All postings to the Surplus Equipment Forum are reviewed (by guess who)
to make
sure they are not junk/spam/bogus postings but not reviewed for accuracy.

There are no charges to use this Forum, however, I am suggesting
an honor system. If you use the Forum to dispose of excess equipment
and you receive more than shipping costs, then you should consider
voluntarily donating an appropriate amount to the Society to help
defray operating costs of this site. I will not monitor this aspect
as I have neither the time nor the inclination to do so.

Remember, if you have items that you are giving away for at most nominal
shipping costs, then by all means continue to use the Microscopy
Listserver. It was created with that spirit in mind and I wish
that tradition to continue.

This is clearly an experiment. There will of course be some problems
and growing pains and if it doesn't work then I've only lost a few hours
of time. However, I expect that it could be reasonably successful
and fill a need in our community. So have at it.

Cheers....

Nestor
Your Friendly Neighborhood SysOp..

.. as he heads off to the sun set to get dinner and a beer....






From daemon Fri Jul 28 19:44:00 2000



From: Ann R Soleman :      wellness4all-at-juno.com
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:38:55 -0400
Subject: Soft Touch II grey tips #00593, Cover slides

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Hello Colleagues

Does some one know of a source for:
Soft Touch II grey tips Catalog Number #00593, manufactured
by the Boehringer Mannheim Company of Indianapolis, IN
(for use with Soft Touch II Lancet Device) in or near the
Washington, D. C. -- Northern Virginia -- Maryland area?

They are still being manufactured, as per our conversation with the
manufacturer (last month - June) even though it is an older item..
However the manufacturer only ships to wholesalers. Many suppliers
no longer carries them. . .

OR perhaps someone in the DC area has switched to a newer Lancet
device and might still have some grey tips in stock..

Also need a local source for frosted slides 25x75 mm x 1mm thick.

OR would there be a source of help near Atlanta, GA? I'll be in Atlanta
in
conference (July 30-August 4). The need is immediate -- I am traveling
with
an Olympus CH30 phase contrast microscope, performing live blood cell
demonstrations and these are no longer available from our own supplier.
Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance...

Gratefully,
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From daemon Fri Jul 28 19:44:01 2000



From: E. J. McKenzie :      elizm-at-pdx.edu
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:30:59 -0700
Subject: EDS resolution

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Hi everyone,

we are having serious problems with the resolution of our EDS detector - the
peak height-width ratio is terrible, around 450 counts. Consequently, our
peaks look more like rolling hills and one peak blurs into another. I have
callibrated the machine using an Al-Cu standard, checked that the detector
is kept cool, sample is tilted at 30 degrees, etc etc. I also got another
microscopist to come and have a look to check my methods and he also
concluded there was a serious problem.

Is there anything else I could try before I phone the Noran technicians and
pay them a lot of $$$ to fix/replace the detector?

regards
Liz McKenzie
--------------------------------------------------
Geomicrobiology and Electron Microscopy Laboratory
Room S9 Cramer Hall
1721 SW Broadway
Portland State University
Portland
OR97201

ph:503 725 3362
fax:503 725 3025



From daemon Fri Jul 28 19:45:02 2000



From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:29:01 -0700
Subject: Re[2]:SEM spot size & x-ray analysis

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At 03:50 PM 7/27/00, you wrote:
} Since so many variables come into play, it is not surprising that details
} are a bit vague in the book. Haven't referred to it in quite a while and
} I forget the exact wording...
} Taming the variables is where the statistical software is handy.
}
} I can't imagine differing lens construction making a difference in the
} analysis volume other than a conical lens permitting higher tilt angles
} for certain specimens which will cause the volume to skew along the
} surface (the incident beam angle variable). Have I missed something?
}
} Since the beam diameter is typically MUCH smaller than the analysis
} volume, variations in its size will not significantly affect the
} x-ray analysis resolution. One exception to this is WDS analysis.
} Sometimes HUGE beam currents are desired. This can lead to a(fat)beam
} that will limit x-ray resolution. Generally speaking, if you can see a
} crisp SE image at the desired magnification, the lens configuration
} and beam diameter are not part of the analysis volume equation.
} At this point you may or may not have enough beam current to achieve
} the desired count rate.
} Rule of thumb: Only if you must increase the beam current/spot size
} (to raise the count rate) until the SE image is no longer well resolved
} is it time consider beam size affecting the outcome.
}
} Woody

The link below shows what I am trying to analyze.

http://photoweb.net/ICxsect.jpg

I know that PSG, Al and poly si are correctly marked. The poly
gate is what is confusing me. Its contrast is like the surrounding
oxide while its interior is like the poly layer....or it could be metal
over poly.

Based on these rather small feature sizes, will quantitative x-ray
analysis produce viable results? If I probe the small central
area of the gate, will I get the results of that area or the results
of it and the surrounding material?

gary g.



From daemon Fri Jul 28 19:51:21 2000



From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:30:31 -0700
Subject: Re: SE: JEOL 840/63xx noisy roughing pump

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when the pumps start to go bad, it seems to be preceded by
leaking at the motor-pump interface. The unit goes downhill
from there.

If you don't have any leaking oil, does the pump sound like
knocking? I've heard this and found that it was due to an
air leak. If the exhaust close off control on the pump is
closed, and the knocking persists, it means there is an air
leak somewhere. You should see this in poorer vacuum readings.

Have you ever changed the oil?

gary g.

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From daemon Fri Jul 28 20:07:47 2000



From: Steven Slap :      SSlap-at-ebsciences.com
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:51:17 -0400
Subject: Nitrogen developer agitation

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Dear fellow microscopists,

We recommend nitrogen-burst agitation for one second out of every three
seconds. This timing is built into our Autoprocessor. We will have a
small model system in our booth at M & M in Philadelphia.

Best regards,
Steven Slap

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From daemon Fri Jul 28 20:09:36 2000



From: Belluso elena :      belluso-at-dsmp.unito.it
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 20:00:03 -0500
Subject: Need mineralogical samples for TEM studies

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Thank you very much for mineralogical samples I have received from Martin J.
Roe.

Regards,
Elena



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Via Valperga Caluso, 35
I-10125 TORINO - ITALIA
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e-mail: belluso-at-dsmp.unito.it
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From daemon Fri Jul 28 20:23:55 2000



From: Angela Klaus :      avklaus-at-amnh.org
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:01:51 -0400
Subject: P-T Laboratory Assitant Position

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Part-time Laboratory Assistant Position - 20 hours/week

The American Museum of Natural History is seeking a Part-Time Laboratory
Assistant for its state-of-the-art core imaging and image processing
facility. The Interdepartmental Laboratory houses an Hitachi Cold Field
Emission Scanning Electron Microscope/PGT EDS, a Zeiss Laser Scanning
Confocal Microscope, and image processing/high quality output resources.

Major responsibilities include assisting scientific staff with imaging and
x-ray microanalysis projects, and training users in independent operation
of microscopes and computers. Other laboratory duties include minor
equipment maintenance, occasional specimen preparation, and other general
lab-related tasks.

A Bachelors degree in biology is preferred, along with some knowledge of or
interest in other scientific disciplines such as geology or materials
science. Candidates who are currently enrolled in a scientific
undergraduate or graduate program will also be considered. The position
requires some knowledge of SEM and strong computer skills. Other
qualifications include willingness to learn, flexibility, and excellent
organizational and interpersonal skills.

Hourly rate is commensurate with experience. Interested candidates can
contact me directly.









---------------------------------------------
Angela V. Klaus

Director - Interdepartmental Laboratories
American Museum of Natural History
Central Park West at 79th Street
New York, NY 10024-5192 USA

Email: avklaus-at-amnh.org
Tel: 212-769-5977
Fax: 212-496-3480
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From daemon Fri Jul 28 20:58:16 2000



From: Connolly, Brett :      brett_connolly-at-merck.com
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:11:33 -0400
Subject: Monitor for imaging

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I'm seeking recommendations for 20-21 color monitors to use for histological
image analysis. Important parameters are high resolution and color
reproduction, refresh rates of at least 85Hz and , of course, reliability.
I've heard some good things about Viewsonics and the Sony GDM-500PS. Are
there any I should avoid?

Thanks,
Brett


Brett M. Connolly, Ph.D.
Merck Research Laboratories
Department of Pharmacology
WP26A-3000
PO Box 4
West Point, PA 19486
Ph. 215-652-2501
FAX 215-652-2075
e-mail: brett_connolly-at-merck.com



From daemon Fri Jul 28 21:14:32 2000



From: Nestor J. Zaluzec :      zaluzec-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 21:04:54 -0500
Subject: Administrivia: Nestor Can't Spell & Router Outage

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Oops... I can't spell correctly. The Surplus Equipment URL is:

http://www.msa.microscopy.com/SurplusEquipment/SurplusListings.html

(I left off the "t" in Listings)...

Also one of the main routers in Chicago went down on Thursday Evening
so there was no connectivity to the Server for the last 24 hours..

Oh well....

Nestor
Your Friendly Neighborhood SysOp ... or is is OpSys????




From daemon Fri Jul 28 21:43:29 2000



From: Gregory Mulhollan :      gregmulh-at-swbell.net
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 21:39:59 -0500
Subject: ISI 100B Manual needed

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Microsope Folks,
I am going to have the fun of doing a minor rebuild on an old ISI 100B SEM.
Alas, the manual seems to not have arrived with this old beast and I am in
need of pointers to where I can obtain a copy. Thanks in advance!

Greg Mulhollan

Gregory Mulhollan
saxeT software & surface science
1808 B Cinnamon Path
Austin, TX 78704


From daemon Fri Jul 28 22:36:02 2000



From: Fauzi Mohd Som :      fauzi-at-lgm.gov.my
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 11:24:35 +0800
Subject: Help on EDS

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I just got this Oxford EDS Link QX2000 attached to JEOL JSM 5300. I wonder
if someone can enlighten me on way the Gross Integral and Net Integral are
calculated from the EDS Link QX2000 and also what is that STRB?

TQ.




From daemon Fri Jul 28 22:58:29 2000



From: Milo Kral :      m.kral-at-mech.canterbury.ac.nz
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:47:54 +1200
Subject: Re: rotation angle between SAED and image in TEM

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Hi,
The rotation calibration is described in Edington, using MoO3
samples. If you have any kind of sample for which a crystallographic
direction is unambiguously known with respect to some linear feature
of the sample then you can use that too. It is not hard to do this
calibration. Just make double exposures (SAED and BF image) at each
magnification for each camera length you are interested in. I think
you can use a short cut: once the entire rotation calibration is done
for a single camera length, then you need only do one magnification
at any other camera length to get the whole thing - on the Philips
microscopes I've used in the past, diffraction patterns do not rotate
with change in camera length.

Milo


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From daemon Sat Jul 29 09:58:39 2000



From: Harrison :      tuttle-at-home.com
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 07:45:06 -0700
Subject: Re: double image of TEM filament

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Hi, It's likely caused by EMI, but could also be caused by a ground loop, or a
noisy power supply.

Regards, Dave Harrison



On 27 Jul 00, at 17:21, waltew82-at-eng.uab.edu wrote:


} Hello I am observing a double image from my TEM filament. The microscope has
} been aligned over and over. If anyone has seen this please help Thanks Wilbur
}




From daemon Sat Jul 29 15:33:20 2000



From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 13:23:35 -0700
Subject: Hummer VII coating thickness

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By chance, has anyone run any calibration coatings
with the Hummer VII using an Au/Pd target? The
coating thickness is dependent on the thickness
setting but also on the nm/minute rate. While the
system is not meant to be absolute, it does provide
a general idea of thickness. The question is
whether there is one or more rate settings which
have corresponding tables or relationships to end-point
thickness settings? I am running at 80mTorr.

thanks,
gary g.



From daemon Sat Jul 29 22:47:14 2000



From: Bruce Brinson :      brinson-at-cnst.rice.edu
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:35:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Monitor for imaging

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Hello Brett,
I personally have a PS 790 & it's predecessor (both 19" View Sonic). I am
quite happy with them. Max. refresh rates are 90hz at 1280x1024 & 76Hz at
1600x1200.... a no $ interest disclaimer applies here.
The price of large monitors has dropped significantly which puts good
monitors in the price range of not so good units.
When looking at large monitors one thing to be weary of is a spatial non
linearity across the screen (distortion). Unless your trying to make
measurements on the screen with a hand ruler this is generally not noticeable.
The larger the monitor, the more difficult this is to control. It is not
uncommon to find small magnets glued to the CRT. This is obviously not an
adjustable parameter. An easy way to look for/qualify the problem is to look to
see if a round object in the middle is round or oval by the edge. This can vary
with individual monitors. I have an expensive 19" (not VS) that has this problem
to a greater extent than my 2 VS monitors in which it exist just a bit. Actually
I hadn't even checked them 'til just now.
The other thing I have run it to (and not recently) is color or brightness
non-uniformity across the screen. Again this is often not noticed in normal
computer applications. Try putting up a white screen & working with the
brightness & contrast to check for this problem.

good luck,
Bruce Brinson
Rice U.


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From daemon Sun Jul 30 01:36:13 2000



From: Peter Jordan :      emsi-at-pe.net
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 23:17:02 -0700
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Have you tried to change the filament? That might take care of your problem.
Peter Jordan

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} Hello I am observing a double image from my TEM filament. The microscope has
} been aligned over and over. If anyone has seen this please help
} Thanks
} Wilbur



From daemon Sun Jul 30 15:36:03 2000



From: Ritchie Sims :      r.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:21:54 GMT+1200
Subject: Re: Administrivia: Surplus Equipment Forum

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Nestor


}
} There now exists a WWW site where any individual can post
} an electronic advertisement to dispose of SURPLUS equipment (ie not
} new instrument sales). This site is open to all individuals,
} organizations and vendors. The URL is:
}

}
} This is clearly an experiment. There will of course be some problems
} and growing pains and if it doesn't work then I've only lost a few hours
} of time. However, I expect that it could be reasonably successful
} and fill a need in our community. So have at it.
}

This is a wonderful thing, I'm sure it will work and will be much
appreciated.

Will it be appropriate to post queries from those seeking items also,
such as me in my ceaseless quest for 840 accessories?

cheers (at least three)

rtch


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From daemon Sun Jul 30 16:44:05 2000



From: wft03-at-health.state.ny.us
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:34:47 -0400
Subject: Re: EDS resolution

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Dear Liz,

we are having serious problems with the resolution of our EDS detector -
the
peak height-width ratio is terrible, around 450 counts. Consequently, our
peaks look more like rolling hills and one peak blurs into another. I have
callibrated the machine using an Al-Cu standard,

You do not say what your total count rate is or whether it is the same
as it used to be for
the standard you are using. I assume that both count rate and dead time
are what they should be.
I also assume that the FWHM of the Mn k-alpha peak is } 150 eV (regardless
of height).

checked that the detector
is kept cool, sample is tilted at 30 degrees, etc etc. I also got another
microscopist to come and have a look to check my methods and he also
concluded there was a serious problem.

When this happened to us, it turned out that the vacuum had
deteriorated. After having sent
the detector back for reconditioning, we designed and installed a valve
which could be attached to
the EM column pumping system. This enabled us to warm up and pump out the
detector ourselves.
After about 15 years, however, this no longer worked, and we had to send
the detector for a pro-
fessional cleaning.

Is there anything else I could try before I phone the Noran technicians and
pay them a lot of $$$ to fix/replace the detector?

Get estimates for the various repair options. We decided to have Doug
Connors of TNAS
clean and overhaul our unit, since his price for that service was the
cheapest. After the bakeout and
pumpdown he performed, the resolution had returned to 147 eV (from ~200 eV
when we sent it in).
His charges for other services--which we hoped would not be needed--were
comparable to Noran's
and others'. We have no affiliation with Doug or TNAS except as customers.
Good luck.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




From daemon Sun Jul 30 16:44:05 2000



From: Ritchie Sims :      r.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:33:06 GMT+1200
Subject: Re: SE: JEOL 840/63xx noisy roughing pump

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}
}
} Our roughing pump which service our JSM6300 has began making a
} rumbling noise which I might believe is bearings ... altho it could be
} the pump's bearings or the motor's. Has anyone serviced this problem?
}

I guess that this isn't your problem, but a couple of times I've had
alarming sharp knocking noises from my belt-drive JEOL pumps, which
have been completely cured with a few squirts of drive-belt dressing
compound from an aerosol can.
Seems to be some sort of sticky tacky lubricant, works well for me.

cheers

rtch


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Department of Geology Fax : 64 9 3737435
The University of Auckland email : r.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz
Private Bag 92019
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New Zealand


From daemon Sun Jul 30 17:01:24 2000



From: wft03-at-health.state.ny.us
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:52:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Re[2]:SEM spot size & x-ray analysis

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Dear Gary,

The link below shows what I am trying to analyze.

http://photoweb.net/ICxsect.jpg

From looking at the image, I'd estimate that the features you need to
analyse
are about 1/2 micrometer for the body of the gate, and 100 nm for the
surrounding
material. For sufficiently low voltage and a sufficiently small beam you
might have
an emission volume small enough to obtain an analysis from the body. It's
less likely
that a meaningful analysis can be obtained just from the surrounding layer.
However,
you might be able to measure apparent elemental concentrations as a
function of po-
sition and calculate the concentrations in the layer with the assumption
that both body
and layer have uniform compositions--this is not a trivial assumption.

I know that PSG, Al and poly si are correctly marked. The poly
gate is what is confusing me. Its contrast is like the surrounding
oxide while its interior is like the poly layer....or it could be metal
over poly.

Here may be a problem. In order to reduce the size of the emission
volume, you
need to lower the voltage; however, if the voltage is too small, there
might not be a enough
overvoltage to obtain sufficient yield of a suitable x-ray line from the
elements in the layer.

Based on these rather small feature sizes, will quantitative x-ray
analysis produce viable results? If I probe the small central
area of the gate, will I get the results of that area or the results
of it and the surrounding material?

Could be. Probably just from the body with the right exsperimental
parameters.
Good luck.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




From daemon Sun Jul 30 23:06:11 2000



From: Rosemary White :      Rosemary.White-at-pi.csiro.au
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:49:21 -0500
Subject: Re: LM: in situ hybridization

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Dear Adriana,

You can do in situ hybridisation on plant material embedded in wax,
LRWhite, LRGold, BMM (butyl methyl methacrylate) and probably historesin.
I haven't looked for references on in situs in non-embedded material, but
there is no reason why you couldn't do this in the same way people do
antibody labelling of plant material for immunofluorescence. I've seen
bacteria processed for in situs without resin embedding.

Good review article: McFadden (1989) Cell Biol Int Rep 13:3-21 covers use
of wax and resin for in situs.

Quite a few people still use FAA as a fixative, which is OK for tissue work
but makes my cell biologist hair stand on end! However, you usually need
to do protease digestion if you fix with aldehydes as the probes have a
hard time getting in through a highly cross-linked protein matrix.

If you fix in 4% paraformaldehyde and embed in BMM, you can do both
antibody labelling and in situs on the same material. See Kronenberger et
al. (1993) Cell Biology International 17:1013-1021 for BMM embedding
protocol for in situs.

cheers,
Rosemary

}
} Dear list member:
}
} Would someone direct me to websites and/or texts about in situ
} hybridization techniques? I'll be working with gene expression in shoot
} meristems from plant material (in vivo and in vitro).
} For regular LM I use glutaraldehyde+paraformaldehyde as a fixative and
} Historesin (Leica) for embedding, but I don't think this method would be
} appropriate.
} I'd appreciate some input.
} Thank you very much in advance
}
} Adriana


Rosemary White
Microscopy Centre
CSIRO Plant Industry
GPO Box 1600
Canberra, ACT 2601
Australia

phone 61-2-6246 5475
fax 61-2-6246 5000
email r.white-at-pi.csiro.au




From daemon Mon Jul 31 02:26:54 2000



From: Andrew Chuvilin :      dusha-at-catalysis.nsk.su
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:13:09 +0600
Subject: Vendors for CCD camera

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We continue the attempts to get a CCD camera for our JEM 2010.
Could I ask vendors to contact me off-list?

TIA

Dr. A.Chuvilin
Institute of Catalysis
av. Lavrentieva 5
Novosibirsk
Russia


From daemon Mon Jul 31 02:41:46 2000



From: Ron Doole :      ron.doole-at-materials.oxford.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:33:29 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Re: Help on EDS

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Dear Fauzi Mohd Som,

The Gross Integral and NetIntegral values on Oxford Instruments (ex
Link) EDS systems refer to the total number of counts in a set energy
window (Gross Integrals) and the number of counts in the energy window
after subtracting the background (Net Integrals). The background is
calculated by drawing a line between the top of the first window channel
and the top of the last window channel, all the area under that line is
assumed to be the background.

STRB is the zero energy strobe.

Have fun with your QX2000,

Ron

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Fauzi Mohd Som wrote:

} I just got this Oxford EDS Link QX2000 attached to JEOL JSM 5300. I wonder
} if someone can enlighten me on way the Gross Integral and Net Integral are
} calculated from the EDS Link QX2000 and also what is that STRB?
}
} TQ.
}
}
}
}

===========================================================================
Mr. Ron Doole e-mail ron.doole-at-materials.ox.ac.uk
Department of Materials, phone +44 (0) 1865 273701
University of Oxford, fax +44 (0) 1865 283333
Parks Road.
Oxford. OX1 3PH. UK.
============================================================================



From daemon Mon Jul 31 05:50:38 2000



From: Tim E. Harper :      tim-at-cmp-cientifica.com
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:32:45 +0200
Subject: TEM analysis in Europe

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Hi,

We are looking for TEM capability to run a few thin film cross section
samples. The films are ~100nm thick, & we need full crystallographic
analysis, as well as imaging of the top surface, interface with substrate
etc.

If anyone has these capabilities, preferably in Europe, can you contact me
off list?

Thanks

Tim

*****************************************************************
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CMP Cientifica s.l.
Space & NanoTechnology Division
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From daemon Mon Jul 31 07:20:01 2000



From: jim :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:09:48 +1000
Subject: FW: Re[2]:SEM spot size & x-ray analysis

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Bill - you are an optimist. Very much doubt that anything close to 2 um
diameter or less can be truly quantitative (in SEM type instrument; within +/-
1% of reality). If you lower the kV you run out of oomph, if the specimen is
light (not needing much oomph, then the volume is even greater.
I like optistist because they persevere.
Cheers
Jim Darley
ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS
PO Box 111, Thuringowa QLD 4817 Australia
Ph +61 7 4774 0370 Fax:+61 7 4789 2313 service-at-proscitech.com
Great microscopy catalogue, 500 Links, MSDS, User Notes
ABN: 99 724 136 560 www.proscitech.com

On Monday, July 31, 2000 7:53 AM,
"wft03-at-health.state.ny.us"-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
[SMTP:"wft03-at-health.state.ny.us"-at-sparc5.microscopy.com] wrote:
}
}
} Dear Gary,
}
} The link below shows what I am trying to analyze.
}
} http://photoweb.net/ICxsect.jpg
}
} From looking at the image, I'd estimate that the features you need to
} analyse
} are about 1/2 micrometer for the body of the gate, and 100 nm for the
} surrounding
} material. For sufficiently low voltage and a sufficiently small beam you
} might have
} an emission volume small enough to obtain an analysis from the body. It's
} less likely
} that a meaningful analysis can be obtained just from the surrounding layer.
} However,
} you might be able to measure apparent elemental concentrations as a
} function of po-
} sition and calculate the concentrations in the layer with the assumption
} that both body
} and layer have uniform compositions--this is not a trivial assumption.
}
} I know that PSG, Al and poly si are correctly marked. The poly
} gate is what is confusing me. Its contrast is like the surrounding
} oxide while its interior is like the poly layer....or it could be metal
} over poly.
}
} Here may be a problem. In order to reduce the size of the emission
} volume, you
} need to lower the voltage; however, if the voltage is too small, there
} might not be a enough
} overvoltage to obtain sufficient yield of a suitable x-ray line from the
} elements in the layer.
}
} Based on these rather small feature sizes, will quantitative x-ray
} analysis produce viable results? If I probe the small central
} area of the gate, will I get the results of that area or the results
} of it and the surrounding material?
}
} Could be. Probably just from the body with the right exsperimental
} parameters.
} Good luck.
} Yours,
} Bill Tivol
}
}



From daemon Mon Jul 31 08:11:37 2000



From: Barr, Dennis B :      dennbarr-at-eastman.com
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:58:47 -0400
Subject: RE: EDS resolution

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Broadened peaks can be caused by electromagnetic interference. We
experienced this problem several years ago when we decided to "tidy-up" the
maze of cables lying around on the floor. Without thinking, we neatly
coiled up the detector signal cable and hung it on a clip attached to the
back of the EDS monitor. Soon after, we began realizing that our peak width
had increased significantly. It was only after much pain and grief that we
realized what we had done. The intense electromagnetic field generated by
the flyback coil in the monitor was the culprit. As soon as we un-coiled
the cable the peak width returned to normal.

Look for sources of fields such as monitors, fluorescent lights, etc.
Moving them as little as a foot or so can make a big difference.

Dennis B. Barr (dennbarr-at-eastman.com)
Physical Chemistry Research Laboratory
Physical & Analytical Chemistry Research Division
Eastman Chemical Company
Kingsport, TN 37662-5150

B-150B, R-132E, (423) 229-2188


} -----Original Message-----
} From: E. J. McKenzie [SMTP:elizm-at-pdx.edu]
} Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 12:31 PM
} To: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: EDS resolution
}
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} Hi everyone,
}
} we are having serious problems with the resolution of our EDS detector -
} the
} peak height-width ratio is terrible, around 450 counts. Consequently, our
} peaks look more like rolling hills and one peak blurs into another. I have
} callibrated the machine using an Al-Cu standard, checked that the detector
} is kept cool, sample is tilted at 30 degrees, etc etc. I also got another
} microscopist to come and have a look to check my methods and he also
} concluded there was a serious problem.
}
} Is there anything else I could try before I phone the Noran technicians
} and
} pay them a lot of $$$ to fix/replace the detector?
}
} regards
} Liz McKenzie
} --------------------------------------------------
} Geomicrobiology and Electron Microscopy Laboratory
} Room S9 Cramer Hall
} 1721 SW Broadway
} Portland State University
} Portland
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}
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} fax:503 725 3025
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From daemon Mon Jul 31 08:52:03 2000



From: JHumenansky-at-phi.com
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:38:35 -0500
Subject: Re: SE: JEOL 840/63xx noisy roughing pump

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Here are some possibilities for your noisy pump.

Shut down the instrument and remove the drive belt from the mechanical
pump/Motor. Restart the instrument to power the vacuum pump motor to
isolate which is faulty. Chances are that it is the vacuum pump and you
will hear the motor running quietly.
If it is the motor, replacement of the motor is required. If the noise is
coming from the vacuum pump you could change the oil, and that is worth a
try. If one or more of the bearings are defective they are easily replaced
but you will need a gasket kit.

If you are under a service contract that would be the best place to start.
Hope this helps

John Humenansky/Staff Scientist
Physical Electronics, Inc. (PHI)
6509 Flying Cloud Drive
Eden Prairie, MN 55344
952-828-6387



From daemon Mon Jul 31 08:54:36 2000



From: Jolanta Mesjasz-Przybylowicz :      mesjasz-at-nac.ac.za
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:26:27 +0000
Subject: Elemental microanalysis in botany

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Dear Colleagues,

I have been invited to present an overview talk on elemental microanalysis
in botany during the 7th International Conference on Nuclear Microprobe
Technology and Applications (ICNMTA'2000), Bordeaux 10-15 September 2000.
I would like to cover recent applications in research areas such as plant
physiology, agriculture and environmental pollution. Special emphasis will
be made on an update of nuclear microprobe applications, following the
research summarised during the Santa Fe conference in 1996 and published in
Nucl. Instr. Meth. B130 (1997) 335.
I also intend to report on problems solved using other microanalytical
techniques such as EDX, SIMS, LMMS, SXRFM and EELS.
I will greatly appreciate your cooperation in that matter as I do not want
to miss any related work in the overview. Please send me any information of
relevance, a reprint, fax copy or just an e-mail with the list of
publications.
Due to time restrictions I would be grateful for your fast reply.

Best regards

Jolanta Mesjasz-Przybylowicz

Dr Jolanta Mesjasz-Przybylowicz
Materials Research Group
National Accelerator Centre
PO Box 72
Faure 7131 South Africa
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Fax: +27-21-8433543
Phone: +27-21-8433820




From daemon Mon Jul 31 09:44:33 2000



From: Dunlap, Jonathan C. :      Jonathan.Dunlap-at-sylvania.com
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:34:52 -0400
Subject: Nikon Coolpix 990

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Good Morning all,

We recently purchased a Nikon Coolpix 990 for documentation use, but
I am absolutely loving the resolution and capability of this camera. Does
anybody know where I can find an adapter to use it on my various scopes
throughout the lab? I know that they make some lenses for this camera, but
does anybody know of any third party adapters or methods besides some duct
tape and a steady hand holding to an eyepiece (just kidding...)?

Thanks for your help,
~Jonathan Dunlap




Jonathan Dunlap
Electronic Components and Materials
Analytical Laboratory Manager
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From daemon Mon Jul 31 10:53:01 2000



From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:34:30 -0400
Subject: Re: FW: Re[2]:SEM spot size & x-ray analysis

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jim wrote:

Dear Jim,

} Bill - you are an optimist. Very much doubt that anything close to 2 um
} diameter or less can be truly quantitative (in SEM type instrument; within +/-
} 1% of reality). If you lower the kV you run out of oomph, if the specimen is
} light (not needing much oomph, then the volume is even greater.
} I like optistist because they persevere.
}

Guilty. On the HVEM--much different, but with relatively large
beam size (~0.5 mu-m)--I was able to distinguish a feature ~0.25 mu-m
across. You're correct about quantitation.


} } I know that PSG, Al and poly si are correctly marked. The poly
} } gate is what is confusing me. Its contrast is like the surrounding
} } oxide while its interior is like the poly layer....or it could be metal
} } over poly.

To distinguish between oxide and a metal surrounding the poly,
all you would need is a qualitative analysis. That's what I am optimistic
about.
You're right about the greater volume for less dense materials.
Since the range of electrons is roughly the same in units of mg/cm^2
for all materials with the same number of protons as neutrons in the
nucleus, scattered electrons will travel further. The hope is that there
is enough oomph and small enough volume at a particular energy.
This could happen if there is a good low-energy (m or n) line for a
heavier element which is not either on top of a k or l line for a lighter
element and which is not buried in noise or too low a cross section.
Yours,
Bill Tivol



From daemon Mon Jul 31 10:58:39 2000



From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:41:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: rotation angle between SAED and image in TEM

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Belluso elena:

} I have a TEM Philips CM12 and one problem of this type of microscope is to
} know all the rotation angles between the SAED pattern and the image in every
} magnification. Surely it is possible to use a test specimen to determine
} this angles, but may be there is someone had done this and he have this list
} and he can help me.
}
Dear Elena,
The Mag-i-cal specimen has instructions for doing this. I am not
affiliated with this specimen or its vendor(s) except as a user.
Yours,
Bill Tivol


From daemon Mon Jul 31 11:02:36 2000



From: ERIC :      biology-at-ucla.edu
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:52:42 -0700
Subject: CCD Digiatl Cameas for TEM

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To the wealth of knowledge on the Microscopy Listerver,


We are looking into purchasing a digital camera for our TEM... We have a
Philips 208S and do mostly diagnostic work here in the EM lab related to
kidney biopsies...

I have looked at two cameras.. The AMT 1K and the Gatan Dual view 1K.. They
both deliver acceptable images.. I was just wondering what kind of problems
have occurred with both cameras after that have been set up and in
operation? i.e. customer service? problems? breakdowns?

Thanks in Advance

Eric A. Rosen
UCLA Medical Center





From daemon Mon Jul 31 11:37:26 2000



From: Walck, Scott D. :      walck-at-ppg.com
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:25:54 -0400
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As was mentioned, the Mag-i-cal sample is really good for determining the
roation calibration. You can either buy or make a sample of MoO3 by heating
wire or foil in air until you get white smoke and waving a coated grid
around in the smoke.

You do have a 180 degree ambuguity in the diffraction pattern. To eliminate
that, go to a convergent beam mode and underfocus the pattern (decrease the
condenser lens strength) until you see the BF image in the disk. That will
correlate with both the image and the diffraction pattern.

-Scott

Scott D. Walck, Ph.D.
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Walck-at-PPG.com

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} -----Original Message-----
} From: Belluso elena [mailto:belluso-at-dsmp.unito.it]
} Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 12:33 PM
} To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: rotation angle between SAED and image in TEM
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} I have a TEM Philips CM12 and one problem of this type of
} microscope is to
} know all the rotation angles between the SAED pattern and the
} image in every
} magnification. Surely it is possible to use a test specimen
} to determine
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} have this list
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} Thank you everyone,
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From daemon Mon Jul 31 11:44:53 2000



From: Mary Mager :      mager-at-interchange.ubc.ca
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:34:02 -0700
Subject: Re: Re[2]:SEM spot size & x-ray analysis

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Dear Gary,
I had a look at your image and I recently had a similar problem with the
analysis of fine layers in a GaAs/Al device. I was able to get good analyses
by lowering the acc. voltage to 3 to 5 kV. In that case I used the L lines
of Ga and As and the K line of Al to probe each layer in turn. My Monte
Carlo program tells me that the x-ray generation volume for carbon, aluminum
and silicon is 0.2 microns in depth and diameter at 3 kV, giving you the
resolution you need to analyse the edge and centre of the gate, assuming
that C, O, Al and Si are all the elements present. The 3 kV is almost a
doubling of the highest energy line analysed (1.74 keV Si Ka line) and
should excite all the lines you need.
At 08:29 PM 7/27/00 -0700, you wrote:

} At 03:50 PM 7/27/00, you wrote:
} } Since so many variables come into play, it is not surprising that details
} } are a bit vague in the book. Haven't referred to it in quite a while and
} } I forget the exact wording...
} } Taming the variables is where the statistical software is handy.
} }
} } I can't imagine differing lens construction making a difference in the
} } analysis volume other than a conical lens permitting higher tilt angles
} } for certain specimens which will cause the volume to skew along the
} } surface (the incident beam angle variable). Have I missed something?
} }
} } Since the beam diameter is typically MUCH smaller than the analysis
} } volume, variations in its size will not significantly affect the
} } x-ray analysis resolution. One exception to this is WDS analysis.
} } Sometimes HUGE beam currents are desired. This can lead to a(fat)beam
} } that will limit x-ray resolution. Generally speaking, if you can see a
} } crisp SE image at the desired magnification, the lens configuration
} } and beam diameter are not part of the analysis volume equation.
} } At this point you may or may not have enough beam current to achieve
} } the desired count rate.
} } Rule of thumb: Only if you must increase the beam current/spot size
} } (to raise the count rate) until the SE image is no longer well resolved
} } is it time consider beam size affecting the outcome.
} }
} } Woody
}
} The link below shows what I am trying to analyze.
}
} http://photoweb.net/ICxsect.jpg
}
} I know that PSG, Al and poly si are correctly marked. The poly
} gate is what is confusing me. Its contrast is like the surrounding
} oxide while its interior is like the poly layer....or it could be metal
} over poly.
}
} Based on these rather small feature sizes, will quantitative x-ray
} analysis produce viable results? If I probe the small central
} area of the gate, will I get the results of that area or the results
} of it and the surrounding material?
}
} gary g.
}
Regards,
Mary
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Electron Microscopist
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University of British Columbia
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From daemon Mon Jul 31 11:45:14 2000



From: Rick Harris :      raharris-at-ucdavis.edu
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:33:29 -0700
Subject: Re: Monitor for imaging

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} I'm seeking recommendations for 20-21 color monitors to use for histological
} image analysis. Important parameters are high resolution and color
} reproduction, refresh rates of at least 85Hz and , of course, reliability.
} I've heard some good things about Viewsonics and the Sony GDM-500PS. Are
} there any I should avoid?
}

I use Viewsonic P185 monitors. I have 7 of them. I understand there is an
updated model (perhaps the P817?). I much prefer them to Sony. Sony uses
an aperture grill supported by wires that create two very fine lines
visible on the screen. We use the monitors at our graphics workstations,
on our Hitachi S3500n SEM and on our Gatan CCD camera on the Philips TEM.



Rick A. Harris, Director
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Section of Molecular and Cellular Biology
1241 Life Sciences Addition
University of California
Davis, CA
530 752 2914
530 754 7536 fax
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From daemon Mon Jul 31 12:36:54 2000



From: beth-at-dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Beth Richardson)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:30:01 -0500
Subject: Nikon CoolPix 990

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Just wanted to add my 2 cents worth...I agree with Jonathan Dunlap - the
Nikon CoolPix 990 is a great digital camera. Ours was purchased for
departmental use so it's used out in the field, on the copy stand, etc.
Everyone has been very pleased with the images.
best regards,
Beth

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From daemon Mon Jul 31 12:36:54 2000



From: Mike Bode :      mb-at-Soft-Imaging.com
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:15:46 -0600
Subject: Re: Monitor for imaging

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I just saw that Bruce mentioned measurements with a ruler on the computer
screen:

I don't think, that is a viable method of measuring something. The glass on
the monitors is quite thick to withstand the enormous forces at the center
of the screen (at 1kg/cm2 the screen glass has to be thick!!). Since the
image is created on the inside, while the ruler is on the outside, the angle
at which you look at the ruler plays a significant role. Just place a ruler
on the screen and move your head. The measurements will change by much more
than the distortion of the screen (unless it's really bad).

For accurate measurements, one should always (in my opinion) use software to
do the measurements. That makes the measurement completely independent of
display devices.

Michael

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-----Original Message-----
} From: Bruce Brinson [mailto:brinson-at-cnst.rice.edu]
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 9:35 PM
To: Connolly, Brett
Cc: 'MSAMicroscopy'


Hello Brett,
I personally have a PS 790 & it's predecessor (both 19" View Sonic). I
am
quite happy with them. Max. refresh rates are 90hz at 1280x1024 & 76Hz at
1600x1200.... a no $ interest disclaimer applies here.
The price of large monitors has dropped significantly which puts good
monitors in the price range of not so good units.
When looking at large monitors one thing to be weary of is a spatial non
linearity across the screen (distortion). Unless your trying to make
measurements on the screen with a hand ruler this is generally not
noticeable.
The larger the monitor, the more difficult this is to control. It is not
uncommon to find small magnets glued to the CRT. This is obviously not an
adjustable parameter. An easy way to look for/qualify the problem is to look
to
see if a round object in the middle is round or oval by the edge. This can
vary
with individual monitors. I have an expensive 19" (not VS) that has this
problem
to a greater extent than my 2 VS monitors in which it exist just a bit.
Actually
I hadn't even checked them 'til just now.
The other thing I have run it to (and not recently) is color or
brightness
non-uniformity across the screen. Again this is often not noticed in normal
computer applications. Try putting up a white screen & working with the
brightness & contrast to check for this problem.

good luck,
Bruce Brinson
Rice U.


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From daemon Mon Jul 31 17:39:36 2000



From: Wolfgang Ziegler :      ziegler-at-princeton.wireline.slb.com
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:27:24 -0400
Subject: Re: Nikon Coolpix 990

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Jonathan,

we have several CoolPix here with adapters for different scopes - the folks at Diagnostic Instruments are very helpful in discussing and selecting components. You can then purchase through one of their distributors. Be aware that depending on your microscope you'll need some relatively expensive components to couple to the photo port because the CP has a non removeable lens. For others it is as simple as an adapter tube.
Make sure you also get the Nikon shutter release bracket (unless the 990 has a remote shutter release - the 800/950 doesn't)

regards,
Wolfgang Ziegler



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From: Maria Luiza :      luiza-at-ppgem.faenquil.br
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:31:03 -0500
Subject: Grain size.......

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Hi. I am a studant from Brazil and I´m trying to measure the grain size of
my samples (They are Niobium 9%Tantalun).
I know there are a lot of softwares available on the internet, but I don´t
know where and if there is a specific program to analise the grain size of
metals.
Please, remember that I work at Brazil, so I don´t have any money buy a
software. We allways try to do the best we can.

Thank you very much..... João Paulo Barros Machado.....

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From daemon Mon Jul 31 18:45:30 2000



From: Walck, Scott D. :      walck-at-ppg.com
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:36:55 -0400
Subject: Emispec users meeting -Interest is needed and it will fly. Please

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A few weeks ago, I asked if there was interest in having an Emispec Users
Group meeting at M&M. Emispec is willing to have one if there is interest.
So far, I have not received very many replies. I will have to let Emispec
know what the interest level is and if there isn't much, it will not fly.

If you have an Emispec system and you have an interest in having this
meeting at M&M, please let me know.

Please pass this message on to Emispec users and have them respond to me.

If you already responded to me, it wouldn't hurt to do so again.

Thanks,


-Scott

Scott D. Walck, Ph.D.
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From daemon Mon Jul 31 19:55:31 2000



From: Steve Beck :      becks-at-sunynassau.edu
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:48:23 -0400
Subject: Fall 2000 - TEM Course Announcement

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FALL 2000 COURSE ANNOUNCEMENT - Transmission Electron Microscopy (BIO. 221-E2)

NASSAU COMMUNITY COLLEGE (Long Island, NY)

A fourteen week, Fall 2000 semester, course in Biological Transmission
Electron Microscopy is being offered by the Biology Department of Nassau
Community College. This is a 4 credit course offered ONE EVENING PER WEEK,
Thursdays, starting at 5:30pm. Classes will begin on Sept. 7 and end on
Dec. 14, 2000.

This is a "hands-on" course emphasizing biological specimen preparation,
ultra-thin sectioning involving block trimming, glass knifemaking and
operation of the ultramicrotomes (Sorvall MT-2B and LKB Ultrotome III),
thick and ultra-thin section mounting and contrast staining (UA and Pb
citrate), grid support films (formvar, carbon), student operation of the
TEM (Hitachi HS-8, Philips EM 300) and production of electron micrographs
through the process of black & white photography, and electron micrograph
analysis. Students will work on a chosen sample(s) with the goal of
producing a portfolio of high quality TEM photomicrographs of that
sample(s).

The course is widely transferrable and the cost per credit is reasonable at
$86 per credit.

More information about the Bio-Imaging Center at NCC, course descriptions
and syllabi, and the beginnings of a student gallery of EM photomicrographs
is available at our web site. The URL is
{http://www.sunynassau.edu/webpages/biology/becks.htm} .

For those without www access, the catalog description is specified below.
If you have further questions, you should e-mail me directly at the address
below.

Interested individuals should register early (by Aug. 10) since the course
is limited to a total enrollment of ten (10) students.

Questions regarding the actual registration process can be directed to our
registrar at (516) 572-7355.
________________________________________________________________________________


CATALOG DESCRIPTION
BIO 221: Transmission Electron Microscopy -- 4 credits
Prerequisites: BIO 109-110 (Intro. Bio.) or equivalent, CHE 151-152
(Inorganic Chem.)
An introduction to the basic principles of transmission electron
microscopy including tissue preparation, microscope (TEM) operation, black
& white photography, and micrograph interpretation. The entire laboratory
is devoted to the development of skills and preparative techniques involved
with the operation of an actual transmission electron microscope.
(3 lecture, 3 laboratory hours). Laboratory fee applies.
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From daemon Mon Jul 31 21:24:43 2000



From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:07:20 -0700
Subject: Re: Re[2]:SEM spot size & x-ray analysis

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Thanks very much to all who have responded to this initial
posting. It seems to me that the data I have received confuses
me for than before. But the ideas presented are great to
consider. Proving them out is quite another matter.

At 09:14 AM 7/30/00, you wrote:
} Gary,
}
} It is common for IC manufacturers to use metals in direct contact with poly
} gates thus reducing the sheet resistance of the poly especially for
} interconnects such as in your image. It could be that the similar contrast
} means a titanium-silicide or something like that. Therefore, to excite the
} higher x-ray lines will require higher beam voltage and you are correct in
} wondering about the volume which is generating the detected x-rays.
}
} I have had much better success analyzing semiconductor cross sections with
} Auger than EDS. Auger's built-in ion gun sputtering provides a good means
} of cleaning the face of the cross section, the resolution (for imaging and
} analyzing) is certainly adequate for this size structure and once you have
} identified the elements present over an area, a line scan nails the elements
} present in the gate.
}
} I have some question about the labels on the photo. Are you really sure
} about those?


I offer a second image at

http://photoweb.net/icxsect2.jpg

which is a different and augmenting image of the IC structure.

I am not sure of the identification of each layer but I am
pretty sure of them. However, I can be dissuaded by alternate
opinions. The main point here is I think to keep in mind
that this is a fifteen year plus construction...it is not modern.
Therefore, what would be vogue or state-of-the-art back then?

The ability of x-ray analysis to quantify the various layers
seems to be easy or impossible, based on the feedback I
have received. On first blush, it does seem difficult based
on the small geometric area available for probing. I do not
yet have an x-ray capability but will be receiving one soon.
It is a 133eV light element dewar system. It will be interesting
to see how it performs in this application.

gary




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From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:21:36 -0700
Subject: IC structure

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I forgot to add the URL to a second image. Here it is:

http://www.photoweb.net/icxsect2.jpg

This and the previous image are BSE. The Z contrast
in these images is telling, I think. The problem is that
they are not conclusive. The particular problem is
the area at the substrate surface. I think that this is
a gate area, surrounded by field oxide. But I am
not sure. What is really troubling is the central
portion of the structure in the center of the image.
It has the same contrast as the poly Si....but how
could such a structure be made?

A puzzle.

gary g.





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