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From: Lyn Waterhouse :      lyn.waterhouse-at-adelaide.edu.au
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 16:51:29 +0930
Subject: Osmium waste

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Hello all,
Would anyone be able to tell me why corn oil is often recommended as the
correct oil to use to neutralise osmium tetroxide waste? Would any
vegetable oil do just as well, or does corn oil have special properties?
I have been unable to find it in supermarkets, and wonder if another
kind would be just as good.
Thanks.
Lyn Waterhouse
CEMMSA
Centre for Electron Microscopy
and Microstructure Analysis
University of Adelaide
Adelaide SA 5005
Ph: (08) 8303 4074
Fax: (08) 8303 4356
Website: http://www.adelaide.edu.au/CEMMSA


From daemon Fri Jun 1 02:32:53 2001



From: Tony Bruton :      bruton-at-nu.ac.za
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 09:27:05 +0200
Subject: Re: XL30 - LaB6 Vacuum system

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Dear XL30 LaB6 users

We have a LaB6 equipped ESEM installed in early 2000. It is still using the original filament which has now logged over 1000 hours. Although we have had various problems with the instrument vacuum levels have not been part of it. Gun vacuum is in the range 2.0 - 2.6 x10-7.

We bake it out overnight every time air is admitted to the gun for cleaning or repair. We are in the process of installing a high vac valve between the ion pump and the gun to save on bake outs at pressured times.

Sounds like you have a 'microleak' - get the agents onto it while you are still under warranty ! Baking out every two weeks might appeal to the purists who want to ensure 'ultimate vacuum' but it seems like overkill - unless it is compensating for a latent problem.

Another point that may be of interest - we have found that the instrument (with mixed lo and hivac usage) will last about three months before it starts getting wobbly ie gun instability and uncorrectable astigmatism. This is an indicator to clean the Wehnelt - itself no mean task since you are cleaning off an entirely transparent but totally nonconductive layer of Lanthanum (?) from the inside of the cap - checking for continuity with a multimeter as you clean. Once baked out after this process it performs like a star once again ! Thus far we are cleaning with polish, but are investigating less exhausting chemical cleaning methods !

The local service agents for FEI/Philips Anaspec-at-icon.co.za have assisted us a great deal in coming to terms with the idiosyncrasies of a LaB6 equipped ESEM - a concept which has given us some interesting moments.

Tony



Tony Bruton
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We are using a quite new FEI XL-30 LaB6 SEM.
It's a long time the we are trying to understand the
normal working conditions of the vacuum system. Looking
at what is written in the operating manual, our vacuum system is not able
to work in safety conditions for the Lab6 filament ( { 2x10-7 mbar ).
To do this we need to bakeout the gun frequently ( weekly )and are able
to work in that safety ( { 2x10-7 )condition only for few hours.
FEI says that the info on the manual are too restrictive (!!) and that
we can work safetly with vacuum levels {6 x10-7 baking out every two weeks.

Any thoughts would be very welcome.
Thank you very much in advance.

Best regards
P.L. Fabbri

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C.I.G.S. - Centro Interdip. Grandi Strumenti
Università di Modena
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From daemon Fri Jun 1 05:18:15 2001



From: Patton, David :      David.Patton-at-uwe.ac.uk
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:12:08 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
Subject: Re: CPD without intermediate fluid

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Access to cryoSEM or ESEM would save a lot of work.

(Without any real experience of clays) I would be inclined
to just air dry the sample at 40 deg. C in an oven.

The meniscus is required when replacing the intermediate
fluid, to prevent exposing the sample, since you would not
have one I guess it is irrelevant.

Dave


On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 10:06:22 +1000 John V Nailon
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} } Has anyone here familiar with any attempts to achieve critical point drying
} } of a water saturated sample without the use of an intermediate fluid, i.e.,
} } by using the critical point of water itself at 374 oC/3212 PSI?
} }
} } I'm interested in looking at clay samples. I am concerned that acetone will
} } cause structural rearrangement of the clay particles because of dissimilar
} } physical and electrical properties between acetone and water. Unlike
} } biological specimens, clay would not care the least about a temperature of
} } 374 degrees, as it does not begin its dehydroxylization process until over
} } 500 degrees. I work in an oil field related industry where we have ready
} } access to equipment that would consider 5000 PSI to be "light duty" so an
} } appropriate pressure bomb would not be difficult to construct.
} }
} } Some questions:
} }
} } 1) All CPD devices that I have seen have a window that allows you to observe
} } the state of the meniscus. Is this essential, or can I assume that the
} } process will go as physics says it should without actually observing the
} } meniscus?
} }
} } 2) I do not want to place the clay samples in water and allow the water to
} } provide pressure as it is heated, as any water in contact with the clay will
} } start to decompose the sample. Can I use an external pressure source (high
} } pressure air, for example) to keep the pressure inside the bomb high enough
} } to avoid evaporation of any water until the critical point is reached? Would
} } it suffice to simply build a little platform that would keep the clay sample
} } above the water level?
} }
} } 3) Am I nuts for even considering this? What am I missing?
} }
} } Thanks for your help.
} }
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From daemon Fri Jun 1 07:40:56 2001



From: Gillmeister, Russ :      RGillmeister-at-crt.xerox.com
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:30:19 -0400
Subject: LM- Video camera/microscope coupler

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Johathan, I have the same Sony camera match on my Axiophot and Axiovert .
I have couple the cameras using optical couplers with a 0.6X magnification.
This overcomes some of the magnification factor and allows a much larger
section of the field to be captured. The couplers are made by Diagnostic
Instruments. If you want more info let me know.

Russ Gillmeister
Microscopy
Xerox Corp.
RGillmeister-at-crt.xerox.com


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Hi:

A colleague wishes to get guidance and information about coupling his video
camera to his compound microscope.

He has a Sony DXC-970MD video camera. The camera has an ENG 1/2" bayonet
lens mount. He wants to use it on a Zeiss Axiophot.

I am used to simple C-mount adapters, the bayonet mount is the ringer for
me.

According to his research Sony offers an adapter, HRT045ENG12, that they
say is used to mount this camera to a microscope. His question is 'Does the
Sony adapter substitute for those offered by Zeiss for this purpose, or is
the Sony adapter used to convert the bayonet mount to something compatable
with the adapters offered by Zeiss?'

Finally, back in the old days, I remember learning that one could use a
simple T-mount to attach a 35 mm camera to a microscope, but that it was
not as good as having an eyepiece camera because it lacked the ocular lens.
Is the same true of mounting a video camera? I have always just used
simple, lenless C-mounts and it has seemed fine. If we are looking for
ultimate image quality, should we be using a more sophisticated adapter?

Thanks

Jonathan Krupp
Microscopy & Imaging Lab
University of California
Santa Cruz, CA 95064
(831) 459-2477
jmkrupp-at-cats.ucsc.edu




From daemon Fri Jun 1 07:49:13 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:45:37 -0400
Subject: RE: LM- Video camera/microscope coupler

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Hi Jonathon,
Remember that the image projected by the ocular of an LM on the CCD
array is REAL ("Please draw a diagram of image formation in your light
microscope", he asked the students in the audience!). The lens in the 'C'
mounts are usually reduction lenses. [I haven't seen them all, so I am
depending on my long-held view that if one wanted more resolution, one would
use better objectives and 4x5" film(plates.] One may go without a reduction
lens on camera and adapter, but then the video image will only be a subset
[whose size (area) is dependent on the length of the 'C' adapter] of the
area that one 'sees' in the 'virtual' image space.
I have a Nikon bayonet-'C' adapter for a cooled CCD camera with a
built-in reduction lens. My purpose was to extend the camera for some macro
work using Nikon macro lenses that I already had for my Nikon 35mm camera.
I also have two different types of 'C' mount adapter. The lensLESS
adapter is used with a CCD camera that already has a reduction lens fitted
to it, while the lensED adapter is used with a vidicon that lacks a
reduction lens. I mismatched the adapters once and used the lensLESS
adapter on the lensLESS vidicon (did use the ocular!). Only a subset, and
no intensity!
The only way to make a decision is to try both Nikon and Zeiss
bayonet adapters, because one cannot determine - except empirically - what
design criteria the engineers used, though my suspicion would be that they
would not differ by much if both are used with an ocular. Also, watch the
length of the adapter. A little long, and the camera (I am not familiar
with its form.) may have to be connected more securely to avoid vibration
effects.

READ ON AT YOUR OWN RISK (OF WASTING TIME!)

Film Photomicrography?
How many listers have ever used a bellows camera setup for
photomicrography? Your age is determined by the thickness of the catalog
you received from the manufacturer of your microscope. What ARE we going to
do with all that stuff in the darkroom?

Leitz ORTHOLUX? Catalogs?
Speaking of that, I still have catalogs of Leitz (now Leica) from
the OrthoLUX epoch (1950's-1970+). If anyone needs something, a picture or
a number, don't hesitate to ask.

Video on TEM in 80's?
I remember an old TEM that I once used had a video (vidicon) camera
mounted under the viewing plate. The computer resided against half of a 9
foot wall, and was ROBUST. A user wanted to count mitochondria in the
cytoplasm of cells. The only way I could get a single mitochondrion in the
video camera view was to reduce the TEM mag almost to scan. So, while I
could see a large part of the grid on the EM view screen the camera
'grabbed' only the center of a grid square and didn't show a bar! To
program the computer, one had to remove boards and change jumpers. AH! The
good OLD days!

Regards to all,

Frederick C. Monson, PhD
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging (CASI)
Schmucker II Science Center (Room: SS024(Basement))
South Church Street
West Chester, PA, 19383
MailDrop: Department of Geology/Astronomy
Phone: 610-738-0437
Fax: 610-436-3036
email: fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Please call before visiting.


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} Hi:
}
} A colleague wishes to get guidance and information about coupling his
} video
} camera to his compound microscope.
}
} He has a Sony DXC-970MD video camera. The camera has an ENG 1/2" bayonet
} lens mount. He wants to use it on a Zeiss Axiophot.
}
} I am used to simple C-mount adapters, the bayonet mount is the ringer for
} me.
}
} According to his research Sony offers an adapter, HRT045ENG12, that they
} say is used to mount this camera to a microscope. His question is 'Does
} the
} Sony adapter substitute for those offered by Zeiss for this purpose, or is
} the Sony adapter used to convert the bayonet mount to something compatable
} with the adapters offered by Zeiss?'
}
} Finally, back in the old days, I remember learning that one could use a
} simple T-mount to attach a 35 mm camera to a microscope, but that it was
} not as good as having an eyepiece camera because it lacked the ocular
} lens.
} Is the same true of mounting a video camera? I have always just used
} simple, lenless C-mounts and it has seemed fine. If we are looking for
} ultimate image quality, should we be using a more sophisticated adapter?
}
} Thanks
}
} Jonathan Krupp
} Microscopy & Imaging Lab
} University of California
} Santa Cruz, CA 95064
} (831) 459-2477
} jmkrupp-at-cats.ucsc.edu
}
}
}
}


From daemon Fri Jun 1 07:52:41 2001



From: Anthony J. Garratt-Reed :      tonygr-at-mit.edu
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 08:41:37 -0400
Subject: Re: CPD without intermediate fluid

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This reply is a bit off the Microscopy theme of the post, but here goes ---

Adding high pressure air to a "pressure bomb" will not prevent the
evaporation of the water (though it will slow it down). The vapor pressure
of any gas in equilibrium with its liquid phase is independent of the
pressure of other gases present. In Bruce's example, if he added air to
give a pressure of 3212psi at the critical temperature, the pressure in the
container would actually rise (assuming enough water was present) to
6424psi. This is why, when using a pressure cooker, you have to allow the
steam to vent for a few moments before closing the valve and allowing the
pressure to rise - the boiling point of the water depends only upon the
pressure of the water vapor above the liquid, not the total pressure.

Tony Garratt-Reed.



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From daemon Fri Jun 1 08:10:45 2001



From: Anthony J. Garratt-Reed :      tonygr-at-mit.edu
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 09:06:43 -0400
Subject: Re: XL30 - LaB6 Vacuum system

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I don't have a LaB6 XL30, but I used to have its predecessor, a very early
ElectroScan E3. We ran that with LaB6 in a routine vacuum of about 5 -
7x10-7 Torr. It did not have the capability of being baked. The LaB6 ran
fine - we almost never were able to run filaments to their "natural" life,
as the manual control allowed students to abuse the current and emission
ratings - a facility they took advantage of regularly, destroying the
filaments in the process! However, we certainly had filaments run for up
to 1000 hrs.

As it aged (it was 10 years old when we replaced it, and still with its
original ion pump) we did not experience ultimate vacuum changes, although
the ion pump did become noticably harder to start after a gun vent.

As a general comment, I can't believe that a well-designed vacuum system
(as I assume the thermionic XL30 is), pumped by an ion pump and baked,
can't maintain a vacuum in the low -7's, unless there is a leak or some
other problem.

Tony G-R

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From daemon Fri Jun 1 08:18:41 2001



From: Edward_Principe-at-amat.com
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:17:01 -0500
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I'd like to echo the comments of Scott and Roger, who replied earlier. Their
wisdom is worth repeating. I wrote SOPs for a commercial analytical service
(not SEM specifically) in a past position........including the SOP on "writing
SOPs". Meet the requirements, but do not go overboard with too many
restrictions.

When considering a quality program it is so important to generate documentation
that you can adhere to and follow. It is possible to create an incredibly
"thorough" document which appears to cover every possible eventuality......but
is also impossible to execute. Quality is then not achieved. Those
who solicit
feedback and allow their quality program to evolve over time will have more
success. Having a strict internal review program that documents and corrects
existing problems is actually a benefit in terms of passing external reviews.
The internal documentation is typically the first thing examined by external
examiners and it places you in a better light if it is clear you are making an
effort to improve your program.

I would offer only a few suggestions for your specific analytical document:

If you have protocols for specific types of analyses that require more detailed
instruction incorporate these as separate work instructions that are distinct
from your SOP. The advantage is you can format your SOP in such a manner that
the WIs can be amended or additional WIs can be added, without having to
formerly generate an entire new version of your SOP. I have omitted the
details, but consult one of the many manuals offered by the host of officials
registrars. Referencing manuals is also fine for broader scope
descriptions and
procedures.

Maintanance Records and Statistical Process Control (SPC) procedures (i.e.,
calibration/sensitivity of EDS for example) are important components of your
quality documentation.

A certain amount (not all) of the quality program information for commercial
analytical service companies is available to customers (public). You may find
some useful information by requesting information from their quality manager
and/or asking specific departments or individuals about their quality
procedures.

Regards and Good Luck,
Ed Principe


From daemon Fri Jun 1 08:27:59 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:23:57 -0400
Subject: RE: TEM need help on embedding and cutting of ZnO crsytals

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Hope this helps.

Very old book, perhaps on someone's shelf (Old instructor of EM class)
Kay, D.H.,1965), Techniques for Electron Microscopy(2nd ed.),
Chapter 8, "Preparation of Thin Sections" (Glauert, A.M. and Phillips, R.),
Section: "Metallurgical and Crystallographic Applications of Thin
Sectioning", pp. 248-253 (includes references), F.A. Davis, Philadelphia,
PA, USA[Reprinted by Blackwell Scientific Pubs, Great Britain., 1967].

Refs: Fernandez-Moran, J. Biophys. biochem, Ctyol, 2(4), suppl
29(1956)
Reimer,L, Z.f.Metalkunde, 50, 37(1959)
Reimer, L, Naturwiss, 46, 68(1959)
Menter,M., Advances in Physics, 7, 229(1958)
Haanstra,H.B., Philips Technical Review 17, 101(1955)
Phillips, R., Aeon Laboratory Report FTR 1(1959)
Phillips, R., Aeon Laboratory Report No. 153(1960)

Kay, et al. promise that Zn is in there somewhere.

Frederick C. Monson, PhD
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging (CASI)
Schmucker II Science Center (Room: SS024(Basement))
South Church Street
West Chester, PA, 19383
MailDrop: Department of Geology/Astronomy
Phone: 610-738-0437
Fax: 610-436-3036
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Please call before visiting.


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From daemon Fri Jun 1 08:58:24 2001



From: Philip Oshel :      peoshel-at-facstaff.wisc.edu
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:57:26 -0500
Subject: Re: Osmium waste

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Lyn

Corn oil is used because it has lots of double bonds for the osmium
to react with, so any highly unsaturated vegetable oil would do, or
even be better than corn oil.
Hey! Maybe there is a use for Vegemite ...

Phil

} Hello all,
} Would anyone be able to tell me why corn oil is often recommended as the
} correct oil to use to neutralise osmium tetroxide waste? Would any
} vegetable oil do just as well, or does corn oil have special properties?
} I have been unable to find it in supermarkets, and wonder if another
} kind would be just as good.
} Thanks.
} Lyn Waterhouse
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} and Microstructure Analysis
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From daemon Fri Jun 1 09:01:37 2001



From: Anthony J. Garratt-Reed :      tonygr-at-mit.edu
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 09:57:56 -0400
Subject: RE: Writing SOP's for SEM/X-Ray Analysis

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This post was a few days ago - apologies for the delayed response, but I've
not seen others make quite the same points.

SOP's are merely recipes for achieving a goal. In Colin's case, he is
needing to achieve quality control, others may be needing safe operation,
ISO standard certification, or whatever. The point is that the SOP will
vary depending on the goal. There is no single "Standard Operating
Procedure" that covers every operating mode (unless it is so full of
qualifications, conditions, and alternatives as to be practically useless.)
For EDX, the manufacturer's instructions may be a good guide, and at least
a useful reference.

After stating the goal, the SOP will put down, in writing, all the
essential steps that must be followed to achieve this goal. This will
include such items as checking the performance of the system (mag. and beam
voltage calibration of the microscope, energy calibration and resolution of
the EDX, for example), as well as things like specimen preparation and
mounting (for quant. EDX, the specimen must be polished, and mounted in an
accurately known orientation, etc., etc.).

Hope this helps.

Tony Garratt-Reed


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From daemon Fri Jun 1 09:07:34 2001



From: Jim at Proscitech :      jim-at-proscitech.com
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:55:10 +1000
Subject: RE: CPD without intermediate fluid

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You could freeze-dry specimens and that would be a rather more obvious
approach. The cost of building a high temperature/ pressure bomb aside the
question is: what would be the effect of the high temperature on the structure
of the clay.
I think what is missing from your consideration is that water is intrinsic to
clay and its nature is changed irreversible when all water is removed from its
chemical structure. I know that quite a few people have worked on the fine
structure of clay and it appears that this seemingly simple task is completely
elusive. I don't know, but I am doubtful that much useful could be gleaned from
modest SEM magnifications of dried clay.
Cheers
Jim Darley
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} Has anyone here familiar with any attempts to achieve critical point drying
} of a water saturated sample without the use of an intermediate fluid, i.e.,
} by using the critical point of water itself at 374 oC/3212 PSI?
}
} I'm interested in looking at clay samples. I am concerned that acetone will
} cause structural rearrangement of the clay particles because of dissimilar
} physical and electrical properties between acetone and water. Unlike
} biological specimens, clay would not care the least about a temperature of
} 374 degrees, as it does not begin its dehydroxylization process until over
} 500 degrees. I work in an oil field related industry where we have ready
} access to equipment that would consider 5000 PSI to be "light duty" so an
} appropriate pressure bomb would not be difficult to construct.
}
} Some questions:
}
} 1) All CPD devices that I have seen have a window that allows you to observe
} the state of the meniscus. Is this essential, or can I assume that the
} process will go as physics says it should without actually observing the
} meniscus?
}
} 2) I do not want to place the clay samples in water and allow the water to
} provide pressure as it is heated, as any water in contact with the clay will
} start to decompose the sample. Can I use an external pressure source (high
} pressure air, for example) to keep the pressure inside the bomb high enough
} to avoid evaporation of any water until the critical point is reached? Would
} it suffice to simply build a little platform that would keep the clay sample
} above the water level?
}
} 3) Am I nuts for even considering this? What am I missing?
}
} Thanks for your help.
}
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From daemon Fri Jun 1 09:19:37 2001



From: Ann-Fook Yang (Ann-Fook Yang) :      yanga-at-em.agr.ca
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 10:17:12 -0400
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Would you consider (freeze-fracturing, freeze-drying) or (freeze-drying, dry-fracturing) techniques? How about cryo-SEM and ESEM?
If you decide to build and use a super CPD, please let us know the results.



Ann Fook Yang
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Has anyone here familiar with any attempts to achieve critical point drying
of a water saturated sample without the use of an intermediate fluid, i.e.,
by using the critical point of water itself at 374 oC/3212 PSI?

I'm interested in looking at clay samples. I am concerned that acetone will
cause structural rearrangement of the clay particles because of dissimilar
physical and electrical properties between acetone and water. Unlike
biological specimens, clay would not care the least about a temperature of
374 degrees, as it does not begin its dehydroxylization process until over
500 degrees. I work in an oil field related industry where we have ready
access to equipment that would consider 5000 PSI to be "light duty" so an
appropriate pressure bomb would not be difficult to construct.

Some questions:

1) All CPD devices that I have seen have a window that allows you to observe
the state of the meniscus. Is this essential, or can I assume that the
process will go as physics says it should without actually observing the
meniscus?

2) I do not want to place the clay samples in water and allow the water to
provide pressure as it is heated, as any water in contact with the clay will
start to decompose the sample. Can I use an external pressure source (high
pressure air, for example) to keep the pressure inside the bomb high enough
to avoid evaporation of any water until the critical point is reached? Would
it suffice to simply build a little platform that would keep the clay sample
above the water level?

3) Am I nuts for even considering this? What am I missing?

Thanks for your help.

Bruce Girrell
Microline Technology Corp.
2397 Traversefield Dr.
Traverse City, MI 49686
http://www.microlinetc.com

(231) 935-1585 (Voice)
(231) 922-5099 (FAX)
bigirrell-at-microlinetc.com





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From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 11:46:20 -0500
Subject: Osmium Recycling

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Lyn Waterhouse wrote:
=================================================
Would anyone be able to tell me why corn oil is often recommended as the
correct oil to use to neutralise osmium tetroxide waste? Would any vegetable
oil do just as well, or does corn oil have special properties? I have been
unable to find it in supermarkets, and wonder if another kind would be just
as good.
=============================================
Whether one kind of oil works better vs. another is a function of the
unsaturation present. However, from an environmental and also a recycling
standpoint, none of these "oils" is very environmentally friendly because
once the osmium is put into this state, the economics of recovery become so
terrible, that the concept of recovery and recycling becomes impossible (at
least at current market prices). The only fate is incineration and burial
in a land fill.

SPI Supplies is now beta testing our own SPI Osmium Recyling Kit. It
consists of a 4 liter bottle with some formulated "potion" inside. When the
bottle is filled up, the idea is for it to be returned to SPI Supplies for
recycling. The chemistry is not rocket scientist logic, but navigating the
various regulatory challenges, especially since they tend to vary from
country to country, not to mention the rules being constantly changing as
well, is what presents the real challenges. We believe the economics are
such that we could even "give back" some new osmium tetroxide in amoules
upon the return of such a bottle.

We would be happy to send you, with our compliments, a beta test kit. Just
let us know if you would like us to do that. We would give you instructions
for returning it to SPI for recycling. We are doing this on a carefully
controlled basis for now, because every time we think we have all the bases
covered, we encounter some other surprise. However, we plan to make some
kind of more formal announcement about it on our website later this year, if
not earlier at the M&M meeting, when the kit is officially introduced as a
regular product of SPI Supplies.

But in the mean time, rather than doing the neutralization in an "oil", use
1N KOH solution. You will get the final reduction of the tetroxide to the
dioxide, and the resulting system could at some future time, literally be
"added" to the SPI Osmium Recycling Kit when it is more widely available.
Now this suggestion might not be right for everyone but it is an alternative
to rendering the material to a fate outside of the stream of commerce from
which it is then lost for the benefit of future generations.

Disclaimer: SPI Supplies would like to promote the concept of recycling
instead of incineration and burial of this non-renewable resource. This is
called "passionate commercialism", something I hope is permitted on this
listserver......!

Chuck

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From: Marie E. Cantino :      cantino-at-uconnvm.uconn.edu
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:18:24 -0400
Subject: Osmium Recycling

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Chuck,

What volume ratio of 0.1 M KOH to OsO4 (say, 1% in buffer) do you recommend?

Marie

You wrote:

} But in the mean time, rather than doing the neutralization in an "oil", use
} 1N KOH solution.

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From daemon Fri Jun 1 13:41:20 2001



From: Lyn Waterhouse :      lyn.waterhouse-at-adelaide.edu.au
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 16:51:29 +0930
Subject: Osmium waste

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Hello all,
Would anyone be able to tell me why corn oil is often recommended as the
correct oil to use to neutralise osmium tetroxide waste? Would any
vegetable oil do just as well, or does corn oil have special properties?
I have been unable to find it in supermarkets, and wonder if another
kind would be just as good.
Thanks.
Lyn Waterhouse
CEMMSA
Centre for Electron Microscopy
and Microstructure Analysis
University of Adelaide
Adelaide SA 5005
Ph: (08) 8303 4074
Fax: (08) 8303 4356
Website: http://www.adelaide.edu.au/CEMMSA



From daemon Fri Jun 1 13:44:07 2001



From: Anthony J. Garratt-Reed :      tonygr-at-mit.edu
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 08:41:37 -0400
Subject: Re: CPD without intermediate fluid

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This reply is a bit off the Microscopy theme of the post, but here goes ---

Adding high pressure air to a "pressure bomb" will not prevent the
evaporation of the water (though it will slow it down). The vapor pressure
of any gas in equilibrium with its liquid phase is independent of the
pressure of other gases present. In Bruce's example, if he added air to
give a pressure of 3212psi at the critical temperature, the pressure in the
container would actually rise (assuming enough water was present) to
6424psi. This is why, when using a pressure cooker, you have to allow the
steam to vent for a few moments before closing the valve and allowing the
pressure to rise - the boiling point of the water depends only upon the
pressure of the water vapor above the liquid, not the total pressure.

Tony Garratt-Reed.



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From daemon Fri Jun 1 13:45:18 2001



From: Tony Bruton :      bruton-at-nu.ac.za
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 09:27:05 +0200
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Dear XL30 LaB6 users

We have a LaB6 equipped ESEM installed in early 2000. It is still using the original filament which has now logged over 1000 hours. Although we have had various problems with the instrument vacuum levels have not been part of it. Gun vacuum is in the range 2.0 - 2.6 x10-7.

We bake it out overnight every time air is admitted to the gun for cleaning or repair. We are in the process of installing a high vac valve between the ion pump and the gun to save on bake outs at pressured times.

Sounds like you have a 'microleak' - get the agents onto it while you are still under warranty ! Baking out every two weeks might appeal to the purists who want to ensure 'ultimate vacuum' but it seems like overkill - unless it is compensating for a latent problem.

Another point that may be of interest - we have found that the instrument (with mixed lo and hivac usage) will last about three months before it starts getting wobbly ie gun instability and uncorrectable astigmatism. This is an indicator to clean the Wehnelt - itself no mean task since you are cleaning off an entirely transparent but totally nonconductive layer of Lanthanum (?) from the inside of the cap - checking for continuity with a multimeter as you clean. Once baked out after this process it performs like a star once again ! Thus far we are cleaning with polish, but are investigating less exhausting chemical cleaning methods !

The local service agents for FEI/Philips Anaspec-at-icon.co.za have assisted us a great deal in coming to terms with the idiosyncrasies of a LaB6 equipped ESEM - a concept which has given us some interesting moments.

Tony



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We are using a quite new FEI XL-30 LaB6 SEM.
It's a long time the we are trying to understand the
normal working conditions of the vacuum system. Looking
at what is written in the operating manual, our vacuum system is not able
to work in safety conditions for the Lab6 filament ( { 2x10-7 mbar ).
To do this we need to bakeout the gun frequently ( weekly )and are able
to work in that safety ( { 2x10-7 )condition only for few hours.
FEI says that the info on the manual are too restrictive (!!) and that
we can work safetly with vacuum levels {6 x10-7 baking out every two weeks.

Any thoughts would be very welcome.
Thank you very much in advance.

Best regards
P.L. Fabbri

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From daemon Fri Jun 1 13:51:49 2001



From: Patton, David :      David.Patton-at-uwe.ac.uk
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:12:08 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
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Access to cryoSEM or ESEM would save a lot of work.

(Without any real experience of clays) I would be inclined
to just air dry the sample at 40 deg. C in an oven.

The meniscus is required when replacing the intermediate
fluid, to prevent exposing the sample, since you would not
have one I guess it is irrelevant.

Dave


On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 10:06:22 +1000 John V Nailon
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} } of a water saturated sample without the use of an intermediate fluid, i.e.,
} } by using the critical point of water itself at 374 oC/3212 PSI?
} }
} } I'm interested in looking at clay samples. I am concerned that acetone will
} } cause structural rearrangement of the clay particles because of dissimilar
} } physical and electrical properties between acetone and water. Unlike
} } biological specimens, clay would not care the least about a temperature of
} } 374 degrees, as it does not begin its dehydroxylization process until over
} } 500 degrees. I work in an oil field related industry where we have ready
} } access to equipment that would consider 5000 PSI to be "light duty" so an
} } appropriate pressure bomb would not be difficult to construct.
} }
} } Some questions:
} }
} } 1) All CPD devices that I have seen have a window that allows you to observe
} } the state of the meniscus. Is this essential, or can I assume that the
} } process will go as physics says it should without actually observing the
} } meniscus?
} }
} } 2) I do not want to place the clay samples in water and allow the water to
} } provide pressure as it is heated, as any water in contact with the clay will
} } start to decompose the sample. Can I use an external pressure source (high
} } pressure air, for example) to keep the pressure inside the bomb high enough
} } to avoid evaporation of any water until the critical point is reached? Would
} } it suffice to simply build a little platform that would keep the clay sample
} } above the water level?
} }
} } 3) Am I nuts for even considering this? What am I missing?
} }
} } Thanks for your help.
} }
} } Bruce Girrell
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From daemon Fri Jun 1 14:05:44 2001



From: Pranatharthi, Balasubraman :      pranatha-at-engr.sc.edu
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:57:26 -0400
Subject: Query on Accelerating Voltage

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Hi !!!
I was doing EDAX on a sample to determine the surface constituents. Can you
let me know answers to the following questions:
1. When I vary the accelerating voltage the atomic % (concentration of = }
elements) varies. Why is that?
2. What is the depth of penetration of EDAX? Does this depend on = }
accelerating voltage?
Please send copies of your reply to bala-at-sc.edu.
Thanks in advance
Sincerely,
Bala Haran



From daemon Fri Jun 1 14:05:44 2001



From: Pranatharthi, Balasubraman :      pranatha-at-engr.sc.edu
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Hi !!!
I was doing EDAX on a sample to determine the surface constituents. Can you
let me know answers to the following questions:
1. When I vary the accelerating voltage the atomic % (concentration of = }
elements) varies. Why is that?
2. What is the depth of penetration of EDAX? Does this depend on = }
accelerating voltage?
Please send copies of your reply to bala-at-sc.edu.
Thanks in advance
Sincerely,
Bala Haran



From daemon Fri Jun 1 14:49:00 2001



From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 12:40:05 -0700
Subject: Re: LM- Video camera/microscope coupler

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Optem and Diagnostic Instrument make adapters for this
camera to most any microscope.

gary g.


At 12:59 PM 5/31/2001, you wrote:

} Hi:
}
} A colleague wishes to get guidance and information about coupling his video
} camera to his compound microscope.
}
} He has a Sony DXC-970MD video camera. The camera has an ENG 1/2" bayonet
} lens mount. He wants to use it on a Zeiss Axiophot.
}
} I am used to simple C-mount adapters, the bayonet mount is the ringer for me.
}
} According to his research Sony offers an adapter, HRT045ENG12, that they
} say is used to mount this camera to a microscope. His question is 'Does the
} Sony adapter substitute for those offered by Zeiss for this purpose, or is
} the Sony adapter used to convert the bayonet mount to something compatable
} with the adapters offered by Zeiss?'
}
} Finally, back in the old days, I remember learning that one could use a
} simple T-mount to attach a 35 mm camera to a microscope, but that it was
} not as good as having an eyepiece camera because it lacked the ocular lens.
} Is the same true of mounting a video camera? I have always just used
} simple, lenless C-mounts and it has seemed fine. If we are looking for
} ultimate image quality, should we be using a more sophisticated adapter?
}
} Thanks
}
} Jonathan Krupp
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From daemon Fri Jun 1 15:32:39 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:45:37 -0400
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Hi Jonathon,
Remember that the image projected by the ocular of an LM on the CCD
array is REAL ("Please draw a diagram of image formation in your light
microscope", he asked the students in the audience!). The lens in the 'C'
mounts are usually reduction lenses. [I haven't seen them all, so I am
depending on my long-held view that if one wanted more resolution, one would
use better objectives and 4x5" film(plates.] One may go without a reduction
lens on camera and adapter, but then the video image will only be a subset
[whose size (area) is dependent on the length of the 'C' adapter] of the
area that one 'sees' in the 'virtual' image space.
I have a Nikon bayonet-'C' adapter for a cooled CCD camera with a
built-in reduction lens. My purpose was to extend the camera for some macro
work using Nikon macro lenses that I already had for my Nikon 35mm camera.
I also have two different types of 'C' mount adapter. The lensLESS
adapter is used with a CCD camera that already has a reduction lens fitted
to it, while the lensED adapter is used with a vidicon that lacks a
reduction lens. I mismatched the adapters once and used the lensLESS
adapter on the lensLESS vidicon (did use the ocular!). Only a subset, and
no intensity!
The only way to make a decision is to try both Nikon and Zeiss
bayonet adapters, because one cannot determine - except empirically - what
design criteria the engineers used, though my suspicion would be that they
would not differ by much if both are used with an ocular. Also, watch the
length of the adapter. A little long, and the camera (I am not familiar
with its form.) may have to be connected more securely to avoid vibration
effects.

READ ON AT YOUR OWN RISK (OF WASTING TIME!)

Film Photomicrography?
How many listers have ever used a bellows camera setup for
photomicrography? Your age is determined by the thickness of the catalog
you received from the manufacturer of your microscope. What ARE we going to
do with all that stuff in the darkroom?

Leitz ORTHOLUX? Catalogs?
Speaking of that, I still have catalogs of Leitz (now Leica) from
the OrthoLUX epoch (1950's-1970+). If anyone needs something, a picture or
a number, don't hesitate to ask.

Video on TEM in 80's?
I remember an old TEM that I once used had a video (vidicon) camera
mounted under the viewing plate. The computer resided against half of a 9
foot wall, and was ROBUST. A user wanted to count mitochondria in the
cytoplasm of cells. The only way I could get a single mitochondrion in the
video camera view was to reduce the TEM mag almost to scan. So, while I
could see a large part of the grid on the EM view screen the camera
'grabbed' only the center of a grid square and didn't show a bar! To
program the computer, one had to remove boards and change jumpers. AH! The
good OLD days!

Regards to all,

Frederick C. Monson, PhD
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging (CASI)
Schmucker II Science Center (Room: SS024(Basement))
South Church Street
West Chester, PA, 19383
MailDrop: Department of Geology/Astronomy
Phone: 610-738-0437
Fax: 610-436-3036
email: fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Please call before visiting.


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} A colleague wishes to get guidance and information about coupling his
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} He has a Sony DXC-970MD video camera. The camera has an ENG 1/2" bayonet
} lens mount. He wants to use it on a Zeiss Axiophot.
}
} I am used to simple C-mount adapters, the bayonet mount is the ringer for
} me.
}
} According to his research Sony offers an adapter, HRT045ENG12, that they
} say is used to mount this camera to a microscope. His question is 'Does
} the
} Sony adapter substitute for those offered by Zeiss for this purpose, or is
} the Sony adapter used to convert the bayonet mount to something compatable
} with the adapters offered by Zeiss?'
}
} Finally, back in the old days, I remember learning that one could use a
} simple T-mount to attach a 35 mm camera to a microscope, but that it was
} not as good as having an eyepiece camera because it lacked the ocular
} lens.
} Is the same true of mounting a video camera? I have always just used
} simple, lenless C-mounts and it has seemed fine. If we are looking for
} ultimate image quality, should we be using a more sophisticated adapter?
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} Thanks
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From daemon Fri Jun 1 15:35:47 2001



From: Lyn Waterhouse :      lyn.waterhouse-at-adelaide.edu.au
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 16:51:29 +0930
Subject: Osmium waste

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Hello all,
Would anyone be able to tell me why corn oil is often recommended as the
correct oil to use to neutralise osmium tetroxide waste? Would any
vegetable oil do just as well, or does corn oil have special properties?
I have been unable to find it in supermarkets, and wonder if another
kind would be just as good.
Thanks.
Lyn Waterhouse
CEMMSA
Centre for Electron Microscopy
and Microstructure Analysis
University of Adelaide
Adelaide SA 5005
Ph: (08) 8303 4074
Fax: (08) 8303 4356
Website: http://www.adelaide.edu.au/CEMMSA



From daemon Fri Jun 1 16:09:46 2001



From: Judy Trogadis :      TrogadisJ-at-smh.toronto.on.ca
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 17:03:12 -0400
Subject: autofluorescence - how specific is it?

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Staining cardiac vessel (e.g. aorta) wall is accompanied by a lot of autofluorescence, probably from elastin and perhaps other extracellualr matrix material.

Should attempts to reduce autofluorescence concentrate on the source of the problem, in other words, are there specific treatments for different types, such as lipofuscin versus elastin.

I have tried Sudan black B, sodium borohydride, toluidine blue. The first 2 reduced the red wavelength contribution only while toluidine blue actually increased the red autofluorescence. The green signal was reduced by only a small amount, all compared to just a PBS wash.

Any suggestions would be highly appreciated.



Judy Trogadis
Bio-Imaging Coordinator
St. Michael's Hospital
30 Bond St.
Toronto, ON M5B 1W8

ph: 416-864-6060 x6337
fax: 416-864-6043
trogadisj-at-smh.toronto.on.ca




From daemon Fri Jun 1 17:40:34 2001



From: zaluzec-at-aaem.amc.anl.gov
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:35:12 -0500
Subject: Re: Query on Accelerating Voltage

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Bala

Have a look at the following www site

http://tpm.amc.anl.gov/Lectures

download the PDF file "Introduction to XEDS for the SEM"

Answers to some of your questions will be in there.

Variation in the composition with Accelerating
Voltage is due to the Cross-section changing with kV


There are also a few slides on spatial resolution.

You should however, get a text book on Microanalysis
and read it in detail.


Nestor
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From daemon Fri Jun 1 19:30:48 2001



From: Patton, David :      David.Patton-at-uwe.ac.uk
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:12:08 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
Subject: Re: CPD without intermediate fluid

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Access to cryoSEM or ESEM would save a lot of work.

(Without any real experience of clays) I would be inclined
to just air dry the sample at 40 deg. C in an oven.

The meniscus is required when replacing the intermediate
fluid, to prevent exposing the sample, since you would not
have one I guess it is irrelevant.

Dave


On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 10:06:22 +1000 John V Nailon
{J.Nailon-at-mailbox.uq.edu.au} wrote:

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} What is wrong in going the other way and simply dry your sample using a
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} High temperature and high pressure spell trouble to me.
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} } Has anyone here familiar with any attempts to achieve critical point drying
} } of a water saturated sample without the use of an intermediate fluid, i.e.,
} } by using the critical point of water itself at 374 oC/3212 PSI?
} }
} } I'm interested in looking at clay samples. I am concerned that acetone will
} } cause structural rearrangement of the clay particles because of dissimilar
} } physical and electrical properties between acetone and water. Unlike
} } biological specimens, clay would not care the least about a temperature of
} } 374 degrees, as it does not begin its dehydroxylization process until over
} } 500 degrees. I work in an oil field related industry where we have ready
} } access to equipment that would consider 5000 PSI to be "light duty" so an
} } appropriate pressure bomb would not be difficult to construct.
} }
} } Some questions:
} }
} } 1) All CPD devices that I have seen have a window that allows you to observe
} } the state of the meniscus. Is this essential, or can I assume that the
} } process will go as physics says it should without actually observing the
} } meniscus?
} }
} } 2) I do not want to place the clay samples in water and allow the water to
} } provide pressure as it is heated, as any water in contact with the clay will
} } start to decompose the sample. Can I use an external pressure source (high
} } pressure air, for example) to keep the pressure inside the bomb high enough
} } to avoid evaporation of any water until the critical point is reached? Would
} } it suffice to simply build a little platform that would keep the clay sample
} } above the water level?
} }
} } 3) Am I nuts for even considering this? What am I missing?
} }
} } Thanks for your help.
} }
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From daemon Sat Jun 2 00:30:42 2001



From: Anton Gutakovskii :      gut-at-thermo.isp.nsc.ru
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:23:49 +0700
Subject: out of office

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Dear Listers!
Thank you very much for your interest in our problems.
I got yours recommendation for HT check. Thank you very much again.
Next week I will be in Moscow and I will be back on Friday June 8,
2001.
Happy week end.
Best regards
Anton
mailto:gut-at-thermo.isp.nsc.ru



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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 09:32:28 -0500
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Education: Graduate College

Location: Chelmsford, United Kingdom

Question: Please tell me more about 3D microscopy and has this been
used to study cytological smears before. Who supply these
microscopes and how much do they cost?
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Please tell me more about 3D images and 3D microscopes. Have these been used
to study cytological smears and histological sections? How much do they cost
and are there catalogues available? thank you
AL-SAM


From daemon Mon Jun 4 04:44:45 2001



From: Keith Ryan :      KPRyan-at-pml.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:36:34 +0100
Subject: Tech. job available

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Hello Listers

I have been asked to post this job by colleagues.

Keith Ryan
MBA
Plymouth, UK

___________________________________________________

MARINE BIOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION OF THE UK

Research Technician (part-time) Electron Microscopy and Biochemistry.

We are seeking a technician preferably with experience in biochemistry and/or electron microscopy to join this BBSRC funded project “Trans-cellular Ca2+ transport and Ca2+ homeostasis in calcifying microalgae”. The post holder will be responsible for preparation and analysis of algal cells using electron microscopy in addition to purification of calcium binding proteins using gel electrophoresis.

The post is offered as a 50% fixed term appointment for 18 months with starting salary £13,717 (pro-rata), although other suitable working arrangements will be considered.

For further details of this project you can visit the following website: http://www.mba.ac.uk

Informal enquires may be addressed to Dr Alison Taylor (tel: +44 (0)1752 633290,
e-mail: arta-at-mba.ac.uk) or Professor Colin Brownlee (tel: +44 (0)1752 633246,
e-mail: cbr-at-wpo.nerc.ac.uk).

Closing Date: open until appointed but start by November 2001








From daemon Mon Jun 4 08:38:27 2001



From: Richard Cole :      rcole-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:30:48 -0400
Subject: EM Tech position available

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Dear Group


Job Announcement:

Electron Microscopy(full time, permanent) Technician —Health Research Inc.,
Wadsworth Center, Albany, NY. We are looking for a motivated, mature and
responsible individual to join a state-of-the-art Federal funded biomedical
research laboratory. Flexible job hours in a challenging and stimulating
research environment. Will train for specialized tasks.


Minimum qualification: B.S. in biology or related filed.

Preferred qualification: B.S. with experience in specimen sectioning and
electron microscopy.

Responsibilities:
1. Embedding various biological specimens for transmission electron
microscopy analyses.
2. Thin and thick (serially) sectioning of specimens.
3. Scanning and photographing sections with the EM
4. Conducting 3D analyses.





Contact:
Richard Cole
Research Scientist III
Director of the Laser Microsurgery and Advanced Light Microscopy Core Unit
Wadsworth Center
P.O. Box 509 Albany N.Y. 12201-0509
rcole-at-wadsworth.org
518-474-7048 Phone
518-486-4901 Fax



From daemon Mon Jun 4 10:14:22 2001



From: Robert Underwood :      underwoo-at-u.washington.edu
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 08:01:58 -0700 (PDT)
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Hi Judy,

We do alot of Immunofluorescence on sections of human skin. The main
source of atuofluorescence is the elastin in the dermis and concentrated
around the larger vessels. The best success we have had is using a CY5
label. The autofluorescence for elastin goes down dramaticly in the longer
wavelengths. Or if we are using a single antiboby, we cature an image of
the autofluorescence in a different channel and digitally subtract it out
of the final image using image math. Then actually, most of the time we
just leave it in and acknowledge that it is elastin (it is actually a good
structural landmark and quite beautiful).

Bob
Dermatology Research Center
U of Washington, Seattle

On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Judy Trogadis wrote:

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} Staining cardiac vessel (e.g. aorta) wall is accompanied by a lot of autofluorescence, probably from elastin and perhaps other extracellualr matrix material.
}
} Should attempts to reduce autofluorescence concentrate on the source of the problem, in other words, are there specific treatments for different types, such as lipofuscin versus elastin.
}
} I have tried Sudan black B, sodium borohydride, toluidine blue. The first 2 reduced the red wavelength contribution only while toluidine blue actually increased the red autofluorescence. The green signal was reduced by only a small amount, all compared to just a PBS wash.
}
} Any suggestions would be highly appreciated.
}
}
}
} Judy Trogadis
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} St. Michael's Hospital
} 30 Bond St.
} Toronto, ON M5B 1W8
}
} ph: 416-864-6060 x6337
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} trogadisj-at-smh.toronto.on.ca
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}
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From daemon Mon Jun 4 12:31:29 2001



From: Karen Dye :      karen.dye-at-medtronic.com
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:25:05 -0500
Subject: Out-gassing, etc.

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We just acquired a new high resolution SEM (FEG) and want to keep it "clean". How can I find out about out-gassing rates and the relative "cleanliness" of various sample preparation supplies:

1. sticky dots
2. conductive inks and pastes
3. epoxies
4. waxes

Is there an accepted method for rating these materials?



From daemon Mon Jun 4 12:39:05 2001



From: Karen Dye :      karen.dye-at-medtronic.com
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:35:06 -0500
Subject: Out-gassing, etc.

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We just acquired a new high resolution SEM (FEG) and want to keep it "clean". How can I find out about out-gassing rates and the relative "cleanliness" of various sample preparation supplies:

1. sticky dots
2. conductive inks and pastes
3. epoxies
4. waxes

Is there an accepted method for rating these materials?



From daemon Mon Jun 4 12:47:50 2001



From: Earl Godfrey :      godfreew-at-borg.evms.edu
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:41:53 -0400
Subject: Confocal LM/EM Imaging Core Director Faculty Position

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DIRECTOR, CELLULAR IMAGING CENTER: The Department of Pathology and Anatomy
seeks Ph.D. applicants for a faculty position in fall 2001 as director of
our cellular imaging core facility. The facility is equipped with
transmission and scanning electron microscopes, a new laser scanning
confocal microscope, image analysis computer, and conventional fluorescence
microscopes.. Strong credentials in state of the art light and/or electron
microscopy (e.g., confocal applications, FRET) are desired. In addition to
overseeing the imaging core facility, the director will be expected to
develop independent and/or collaborative research in one of five research
areas: Cancer, Cardiovascular/Renal, Neuroscience, Reproductive
Endocrinology, and Virology. Please send curriculum vitae, statement of
research interests, and names, addresses, telephone numbers and email
addresses of three references to:

William F. Glass II, M.D. Ph.D., Chair
Department of Pathology and Anatomy
Eastern Virginia Medical School
P.O. Box 1980
Norfolk, VA 23501

Eastern Virginia Medical School is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity
Employer.

Questions may be directed to Dr. Glass or Dr. Earl Godfrey
(godfreew-at-borg.evms.edu).

Please inform qualified individuals of this opportunity. Thank you very much.


Earl W. Godfrey, Ph.D.
Dept. of Pathology and Anatomy
Eastern Virginia Medical School
P.O. Box 1980
Norfolk, VA 23501

street address: 700 W. Olney Rd.
Lewis Hall Rm. 3077a
Norfolk, VA 23507

(757) 446-5609
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From: Karen Dye :      karen.dye-at-medtronic.com
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:46:37 -0500
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1. sticky dots
2. conductive inks and pastes
3. epoxies
4. waxes

Is there an accepted method for rating these materials?



From daemon Mon Jun 4 12:55:38 2001



From: Karen Dye :      karen.dye-at-medtronic.com
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:51:29 -0500
Subject: Out-gassing, etc.

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We just acquired a new high resolution SEM (FEG) and want to keep it "clean". How can I find out about out-gassing rates and the relative "cleanliness" of various sample preparation supplies:

1. sticky dots
2. conductive inks and pastes
3. epoxies
4. waxes

Is there an accepted method for rating these materials?



From daemon Mon Jun 4 13:51:46 2001



From: Earl Godfrey :      godfreew-at-borg.evms.edu
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 14:44:31 -0400
Subject: Confocal LM/EM Imaging Core Director Faculty Position

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DIRECTOR, CELLULAR IMAGING CENTER: The Department of Pathology and Anatomy
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our cellular imaging core facility. The facility is equipped with
transmission and scanning electron microscopes, a new laser scanning
confocal microscope, image analysis computer, and conventional fluorescence
microscopes.. Strong credentials in state of the art light and/or electron
microscopy (e.g., confocal applications, FRET) are desired. In addition to
overseeing the imaging core facility, the director will be expected to
develop independent and/or collaborative research in one of five research
areas: Cancer, Cardiovascular/Renal, Neuroscience, Reproductive
Endocrinology, and Virology. Please send curriculum vitae, statement of
research interests, and names, addresses, telephone numbers and email
addresses of three references to:

William F. Glass II, M.D. Ph.D., Chair
Department of Pathology and Anatomy
Eastern Virginia Medical School
P.O. Box 1980
Norfolk, VA 23501

Eastern Virginia Medical School is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity
Employer.

Questions may be directed to Dr. Glass or Dr. Earl Godfrey
(godfreew-at-borg.evms.edu).

Please inform qualified individuals of this opportunity. Thank you very much.


Earl W. Godfrey, Ph.D.
Dept. of Pathology and Anatomy
Eastern Virginia Medical School
P.O. Box 1980
Norfolk, VA 23501

street address: 700 W. Olney Rd.
Lewis Hall Rm. 3077a
Norfolk, VA 23507

(757) 446-5609
FAX (757) 446-5719
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From: davidbock-at-mindspring.com ()
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Question: I would like to create a very large image of human blood at
~4000 times magnification. Ideally, it would be a single image that I
would print at 10 feet x 30 feet. I imagine each red blood cell
would be about 3" across in the final printed version.

Is it possible to take such a picture? Would I have to take a series
of shots and then join them with Photoshop? What about resolution?

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Question: Could you please tell me what type of microorganisms one
can expect to find in environmental dust taken from outdoor
playground equipment? I am a college student taking microbiology at
NCC and I am having a difficult time finding resources for research
regarding organisms in dust and dirt. If you could tell me some
things I could expect to culture from a sample taken from a
playground, or tell me some resources where I could find this
information I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks!!

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Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:49:16 -0500
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Name: Robin Olsen

Organization: Northampton Community College

Education: Undergraduate College

Location: Easton, PA Northampton County

Question: Could you please tell me what type of microorganisms one
can expect to find in environmental dust taken from outdoor
playground equipment? I am a college student taking microbiology at
NCC and I am having a difficult time finding resources for research
regarding organisms in dust and dirt. If you could tell me some
things I could expect to culture from a sample taken from a
playground, or tell me some resources where I could find this
information I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks!!

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From daemon Tue Jun 5 03:15:01 2001



From: Ron Doole :      ron.doole-at-materials.oxford.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 09:12:33 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
Subject: Re: Out-gassing, etc.

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HI Karen,

I have an old, but brilliant, book 'Leybold Vacuum
Handbook' by K. Diels and R. Jaeckel (Translated by H. Adam
and J. Edwards) Pergamon Press, 1966. It contains
explainations of these problems, descriptions of
experiments to measure outgassing and desorption, and rates
for most elements and compounds that may be used in vacuum
systems.

If you want a simple way to test the various materials find
a pumping rig and pump it down to it's ultimate pressure at
least overnight, ensure that the ultimate pressure is of
the same order as your microscope. Then vent it to dry
nitrogen and pump down again noting the pressure change
with time to it's ultimate pressure (say for 1 hour). Then
vent it and introduce the unknown component and pump down
again noting the time and pressure. The change in pumping
speed (rate of decrease in pressure) will be due to the
outgassing. No fancy units but a direct comparison for
your problem. Remember that to make a real comparison of
outgassing rates you need to have similar amounts of
material in similar forms, ie. same surface areas and
volumes. However, I guess you are more concerned with the
comparison between different mounting techniques so similar
specimens mounted by the various techniques would be OK.

To save you a lot of time in experimenting I suggest that
you use the minimum amount of mounting material, you want
the smallest possible surface area to see the vacuum and
you want the lowest desorption (outgassing) rate and lowest
vapour pressure.

Of your 4 options I would not use sticky pads or waxes. I
would only use epoxy or conductive inks and pastes fully
underneath the specimen and ensure that the small amount
used was fully cured and dried by pumping it out in a
vacuum rig before loading it into the microscope. I would
also store it under vacuum before loading.

Good luck,
Ron

}
} We just acquired a new high resolution SEM (FEG) and want to keep it "clean". How can I find out about out-gassing rates and the relative "cleanliness" of various sample preparation supplies:
}
} 1. sticky dots
} 2. conductive inks and pastes
} 3. epoxies
} 4. waxes
}
} Is there an accepted method for rating these materials?
}
}

----------------------
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Department of Materials,
University of Oxford.
Parks Road, Oxford. OX1 3PH. UK.
Phone +44 (0) 1865 273701
Fax +44 (0) 1865 283333
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From daemon Tue Jun 5 08:09:11 2001



From: kellyburns-at-cfl.rr.com ()
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 08:03:32 -0500
Subject: Ask-A-Microscopist: When preparing a smear....

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Name: Kelly Burns

Organization: Valencia Community College

Education: Undergraduate College

Location: Ocoee, FL, US

Question: When preparing a smear, why is it important to
use tap water versus distilled water?

Thank You :)

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From daemon Tue Jun 5 09:00:40 2001



From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
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Subject: SEM mounting materials

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Karen Dye wrote the following:
==========================================================
We just acquired a new high resolution SEM (FEG) and want to keep it "clean"
. How can I find out about out-gassing rates and the relative "cleanliness"
of various sample preparation supplies:

1. sticky dots
2. conductive inks and pastes
3. epoxies
4. waxes

Is there an accepted method for rating these materials?
==========================================================
We at SPI Supplies have been dealing with this particular issue for more
than thirty years. I don't think your question has the kind of absolute
answer you might have been seeking, for the following reasons:

a) There are at least several different sources of "sticky dots", and they
do not all behave the same. Some off-gas more than others and some are more
sensitive to the beam than others. Also other factors such as age and
storage conditions can effect the behavior of some of these adhesive
materials in vacuum.

b) The conductive inks and pastes similarly represent different
compositions, they are not all the same, and do not all come from the same
place, but in addition to that, the "off-gassing characteristics" also
depend on how thick of a layer has been applied and whether there is a
"skin" that forms on the top, resulting in a lingering "wet" area underneath
the skin. This effect can be even more problematic for a paste. The
details of the formulation can influence the tendency of the composition to
form such a skin, which acts as a barrier to diffusion.

c) The typical epoxy can be cured using more or less hardener, and it can
be cured at room temperature or at higher temperatures. A room temperature
cure with less rather than more hardener increases the chances for there
being more unpolymerized material being present to off-gas and cause
problems. The use of more hardener and some residence time at a higher
temperature tends to minimize the off-gassing effect.

d) Waxes tend to be nonconductive and beam sensitive. Some have
plasticizers that migrate to the surface and off-gas. We try to avoid waxes
as a mounting medium for this kind of application in any kind of SEM. I
have waxes like dental waxes in mind in the making of that comment.


We have adopted our own "test" for UHV compatibility. Simply put, it is a
measure of the deterioration of vacuum when a test specimen is inserted into
a UHV system. We found that the SPI double sided conductive carbon sheet
material, when a 10 mm square was used, was inserted into the UHV system,
there was no visible "meter deflection" on the LED display for the vacuum.
Since the adhesive is the same as what is used in the SPI carbon tape and
double sided discs, we would expect the same result would be found for them
as well. We know that some similar appearing materials offered by others
will perform as well on such a test. But not in all instances. We know
this might not be the perfect test, but over the years it has been quite
effective in terms of validating those materials that are better for this
kind of application than others. Obviously, the worst performing material,
if just a tiny bit is used, could end up "passing" the test, just as an
inordinately large piece of the SPI double sided conductive sheets could
flunk on such a test. So it is important to standardize on the area to be
exposed to the UHV conditions if one is doing such a comparative test.

Having said all of that, we believe that the "dry adhesives" are far better
than wet paints. But we also believe that the best laboratory practice
would involve the use of the smallest amount of adhesive possible, and for
that reason, we usually recommend the use of the sheets, which are cut out
to the size desired for each sample, rather than the discs for which the
smallest is still probably bigger than what is needed for many samples. Of
course my other factors, such as personal preference and experience come
into play so I am sure there could be selection based on factors other than
purely that of off-gassing.

Disclaimer: SPI Supplies offers all four types of mountants for use for the
mounting of SEM samples.

Chuck

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From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:21:44 -0400
Subject: Imaging Information URL

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I provide a copy of the following URL to a site with rich detail on imaging
for those of us in the mood to learn.

http://www.tasi.ac.uk/welcome.html

This site is TASI: "Technical Advisory Service for Images". Suggest
further, to find tree of info, click on "FRAMEWORK"

Regards to all,

Fred Monson

Frederick C. Monson, PhD
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging (CASI)
Schmucker II Science Center (Room: SS024(Basement))
South Church Street
West Chester, PA, 19383
MailDrop: Department of Geology/Astronomy
Phone: 610-738-0437
Fax: 610-436-3036
email: fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Please call before visiting.


From daemon Tue Jun 5 11:09:18 2001



From: Maria Ericsson :      maria_ericsson-at-hms.harvard.edu
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 11:53:30 -0400
Subject: sectioning tantalum matrix

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I am posting this for a college, Lauri Wyner, in the Pathology Core.
I have no idea how to section this stuff...!

Thanks!
Maria Ericsson

My question is:
I have a carbon coated porous tantalum matrix approximately 1 cm in
circumference and 2 mm thick. This matrix has fixed cells adhered to the
surface and throughout. I would like to embed this, make slides and stain
for H&E to confirm the presences of cells as well as immunohistochemistry
to characterize them. I am looking for suggestions on how I can section
this matrix while maintaining its overall structure. Any information would
be greatly appreciated.



Lauri Wyner
DF/HCC Central Pathology Cores Coordinator
Harvard Medical School
G1-126, Goldenson Building
220 Longwood Avenue
Boston, MA 02115
Tele: (617) 432-4947
Fas: (617) 432-6474
Lauri_wyner-at-hms.harvard.edu



From daemon Tue Jun 5 12:28:28 2001



From: Rajesh Patel :      rpatel-at-umdnj.edu
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:27:32 -0400
Subject: salary survey

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I beleive that some time a go a salray survey was
done for electron microscopy field. How and where
can I access that info.


Rajesh Patel
Robert Wood Johnson Medical School
Dept. of Pathology
Electron Microscopy Lab
675 Hoes Lane
Piscataway, NJ 08854

(732)235-4648
rpatel-at-umdnj.edu


From daemon Tue Jun 5 13:04:38 2001



From: Gilbert, Charles :      Charles.Gilbert-at-carolinashealthcare.org
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:59:58 -0400
Subject: Delete - Disregard; this is a test; Outlook97 annoyances.

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server. MS Outlook97 is annoying in being somewhat inscrutable for sending
html unless you know how to find it's hidden secrets. This we have done. :
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From daemon Tue Jun 5 13:37:23 2001



From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 09:53:00 -0500
Subject: SEM mounting materials

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Karen Dye wrote the following:
==========================================================
We just acquired a new high resolution SEM (FEG) and want to keep it "clean"
How can I find out about out-gassing rates and the relative "cleanliness"
of various sample preparation supplies:

1. sticky dots
2. conductive inks and pastes
3. epoxies
4. waxes

Is there an accepted method for rating these materials?
==========================================================
We at SPI Supplies have been dealing with this particular issue for more
than thirty years. I don't think your question has the kind of absolute
answer you might have been seeking, for the following reasons:

a) There are at least several different sources of "sticky dots", and they
do not all behave the same. Some off-gas more than others and some are more
sensitive to the beam than others. Also other factors such as age and
storage conditions can effect the behavior of some of these adhesive
materials in vacuum.

b) The conductive inks and pastes similarly represent different
compositions, they are not all the same, and do not all come from the same
place, but in addition to that, the "off-gassing characteristics" also
depend on how thick of a layer has been applied and whether there is a
"skin" that forms on the top, resulting in a lingering "wet" area underneath
the skin. This effect can be even more problematic for a paste. The
details of the formulation can influence the tendency of the composition to
form such a skin, which acts as a barrier to diffusion.

c) The typical epoxy can be cured using more or less hardener, and it can
be cured at room temperature or at higher temperatures. A room temperature
cure with less rather than more hardener increases the chances for there
being more unpolymerized material being present to off-gas and cause
problems. The use of more hardener and some residence time at a higher
temperature tends to minimize the off-gassing effect.

d) Waxes tend to be nonconductive and beam sensitive. Some have
plasticizers that migrate to the surface and off-gas. We try to avoid waxes
as a mounting medium for this kind of application in any kind of SEM. I
have waxes like dental waxes in mind in the making of that comment.


We have adopted our own "test" for UHV compatibility. Simply put, it is a
measure of the deterioration of vacuum when a test specimen is inserted into
a UHV system. We found that the SPI double sided conductive carbon sheet
material, when a 10 mm square was used, was inserted into the UHV system,
there was no visible "meter deflection" on the LED display for the vacuum.
Since the adhesive is the same as what is used in the SPI carbon tape and
double sided discs, we would expect the same result would be found for them
as well. We know that some similar appearing materials offered by others
will perform as well on such a test. But not in all instances. We know
this might not be the perfect test, but over the years it has been quite
effective in terms of validating those materials that are better for this
kind of application than others. Obviously, the worst performing material,
if just a tiny bit is used, could end up "passing" the test, just as an
inordinately large piece of the SPI double sided conductive sheets could
flunk on such a test. So it is important to standardize on the area to be
exposed to the UHV conditions if one is doing such a comparative test.

Having said all of that, we believe that the "dry adhesives" are far better
than wet paints. But we also believe that the best laboratory practice
would involve the use of the smallest amount of adhesive possible, and for
that reason, we usually recommend the use of the sheets, which are cut out
to the size desired for each sample, rather than the discs for which the
smallest is still probably bigger than what is needed for many samples. Of
course my other factors, such as personal preference and experience come
into play so I am sure there could be selection based on factors other than
purely that of off-gassing.

Disclaimer: SPI Supplies offers all four types of mountants for use for the
mounting of SEM samples.

Chuck

===================================================
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President 1-(800)-2424-SPI
SPI SUPPLIES FAX: 1-(610)-436-5755
PO BOX 656

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From daemon Tue Jun 5 14:05:45 2001



From: Wiggins, Winston :      Winston.Wiggins-at-carolinashealthcare.org
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:01:21 -0400
Subject: Particle size

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Listers,
Can anyone refer me to a company or lab that can do sub-micron particle size
and distribution studies, especially but not necessarily, in the southeast
US? It involves a study injecting small wear debris particles into a
skeletal joint.
Thanks for any help.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Winston W. Wiggins, Supervisor June 4, 2001 2:44 PM
Cannon Electron Microscopy Lab Ofc: 704-355-1267
Carolinas Medical Center Lab: 704-355-7220
P.O. Box 32861 (Ship to: 1000 Blythe Blvd ) Fax:
704-355-0589
Charlotte, NC 28232-2861 (Ship to: 28203 )
Winston.Wiggins-at-CarolinasHealthCare.org {mailto:WWiggins-at-Carolinas.org}
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From daemon Tue Jun 5 14:27:01 2001



From: Wil Bigelow :      bigelow-at-engin.umich.edu
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:25:49 -0400
Subject: RE: Outgassing, etc.

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The general question of outgassing and its effect on the performance
of vacuum systems is discussed in some detail in Section 2.9 of my
book, 'Vacuum Methods in Electron Microscopy' (see:
http://www.2spi.com/catalog/books/book48.html and
http://pup.princeton.edu/titles/6484.html for details).

There is one interesting way in which unexpectedly large amounts of
solvents and gases can get introduced into an SEM when carbon or
silver paint is used to mount a specimen. This can occur if the paint
is smeared on a mounting stub in such a way that the entire area
underneath the specimen is covered, and then only a relatively short
time is allowed for the paint to dry. Then only the paint around the
edges of the specimen will dry, while that underneath the specimen
can remain wet. When inserted into the SEM the solvent from the wet
paint underneath the specimen can slowly diffuse outward through the
'dry' paint around the edges, thereby providing a strong source of
outgassing for a long time.

If you really must use a paing to mount specimens, I think it is best
to only put a few small dabs of it at several spots around the
periphery of the specimen. Then there will be a better opportunity
for the solvent to evaporate out from each small dab, and if
sufficient time is allowed for the drying process, no wet paint will
be left trapped underneath the specimen.

Better yet, make some simple clips or clamps that will hold the
specimen in place mechanically, without the use of solvents or
adhesives. With a little ingenuity and some pliers you can fashion a
clip to hold almost any specimen from a piece of heavy copper wire or
a paperclip.
--
Wilbur C. Bigelow, Prof. Emeritus
Materials Sci. & Engr., University of Michigan
3062 Dow Bldg.; 2300 Hayward St.
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2136 e-mail: bigelow-at-umich.edu;
Fx:734-763-4788; Ph:734-662-5237


From daemon Tue Jun 5 14:43:37 2001



From: David Wilbur :      dwilbu01-at-emerald.tufts.edu
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 15:37:58 -0400
Subject: SEM/EDS Need port cover for JEOL 840 microscope

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My Oxford EDS x-ray detector needs to be returned to Oxford for repair,
and unfortunately, I cannot locate the original cover for the EDS port
on the microscope. Neither Oxford not JEOL can supply a cover. I do
not want to lose the use of the SEM for imaging while the detector is
repaired. The microscope is a JEOL JXA-840. As far as I know, the
column is identical to the JSM-840. Is there anyone out there able and
willing to help me with a sale, rent, or loan of a suitable cover until
my x-ray detector is repaired.

Thank you.

Dave Wilbur

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Tufts University
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Fax: 617-627-3443
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From daemon Tue Jun 5 15:00:29 2001



From: Becky Holdford :      r-holdford-at-ti.com
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 15:00:12 -0500
Subject: Re: Out-gassing, etc.

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I can agree with Ron about the waxes. I've used a JEOL 6600F and Hitachi S-4700s
and neither of these instruments likes wax. The wax will outgas so badly that the
loadlocks won't pump down, so you never get it into the main chamber.
Superglue-type glues work good (fully cured) and I've had no trouble with black carbon
double-sided tape. I also use carbon (graphite) paint after a 15-minute bake at about 40-50
degrees C. A vacuum dryer could also be used if your specimen was heat-sensitive.
I don't much care for silver paint; it takes too long to dry and is hard to remove if necessary.
For the ultimate in cleanliness, remember to handle your mounts, stages, etc. (anything that goes
into the main chamber) with gloves. This will prevent finger oils from being dispersed in the system.

Ron Doole wrote:
----------- {snip} --------------

} To save you a lot of time in experimenting I suggest that
} you use the minimum amount of mounting material, you want
} the smallest possible surface area to see the vacuum and
} you want the lowest desorption (outgassing) rate and lowest
} vapour pressure.
}
} Of your 4 options I would not use sticky pads or waxes. I
} would only use epoxy or conductive inks and pastes fully
} underneath the specimen and ensure that the small amount
} used was fully cured and dried by pumping it out in a
} vacuum rig before loading it into the microscope. I would
} also store it under vacuum before loading.
}
} Good luck,
} Ron
}
} }
} } We just acquired a new high resolution SEM (FEG) and want to keep it "clean". How can I find out about out-gassing rates and the relative "cleanliness" of various sample preparation supplies:
} }
} } 1. sticky dots
} } 2. conductive inks and pastes
} } 3. epoxies
} } 4. waxes
} }
} } Is there an accepted method for rating these materials?
} }
} }
}
} ----------------------
} Mr. R.C. Doole
} Department of Materials,
} University of Oxford.
} Parks Road, Oxford. OX1 3PH. UK.
} Phone +44 (0) 1865 273701
} Fax +44 (0) 1865 283333
} ron.doole-at-materials.ox.ac.uk

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DSPS Packaging Development
Texas Instruments, Inc.
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From: OCONNELL-at-ltu.edu
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 16:39:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Position available

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Position available in an independent testing lab in a suburb of Detroit, MI.
Knowledge of ISI SS 40 required. Materials testing experience a plus.
For information contact 734-668-3309 and leave message.




From daemon Tue Jun 5 15:51:28 2001



From: Frida.Maiers-at-co.hennepin.mn.us
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:46:47 -0500
Subject: Safety

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Several questions about safety.. What do you use for gloves when handling
both resins and fixatives? What procedures are out there for precipitating
lead? Is anyone aware of any suspected instances of EM chemical exposure
(resins, osmium), documented cases and/or references about such? Our
institution would appreciate any information to help them answer questions
about this unique part of the lab.



From daemon Tue Jun 5 18:07:56 2001



From: Jim at Proscitech :      jim-at-proscitech.com
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:02:20 +1000
Subject: RE: Out-gassing, etc.

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Rons advice is all very sound, but you have overlooked the effect of
temperature. Even a modest rise in temperature increases vapour pressure and
therefore outgassing markedly. Unless a cold-trap is used the objective area is
rather warmer than room temperature. To cure samples so that later outgassing
is lessened, store specimens at a suitably increased temperature and under a
modest vacuum.
Cheers
Jim Darley
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ABN: 99 724 136 560 www.proscitech.com

On Tuesday, June 05, 2001 6:13 PM, Ron Doole
[SMTP:ron.doole-at-materials.oxford.ac.uk] wrote:
}
}
} HI Karen,
}
} I have an old, but brilliant, book 'Leybold Vacuum
} Handbook' by K. Diels and R. Jaeckel (Translated by H. Adam
} and J. Edwards) Pergamon Press, 1966. It contains
} explainations of these problems, descriptions of
} experiments to measure outgassing and desorption, and rates
} for most elements and compounds that may be used in vacuum
} systems.
}
} If you want a simple way to test the various materials find
} a pumping rig and pump it down to it's ultimate pressure at
} least overnight, ensure that the ultimate pressure is of
} the same order as your microscope. Then vent it to dry
} nitrogen and pump down again noting the pressure change
} with time to it's ultimate pressure (say for 1 hour). Then
} vent it and introduce the unknown component and pump down
} again noting the time and pressure. The change in pumping
} speed (rate of decrease in pressure) will be due to the
} outgassing. No fancy units but a direct comparison for
} your problem. Remember that to make a real comparison of
} outgassing rates you need to have similar amounts of
} material in similar forms, ie. same surface areas and
} volumes. However, I guess you are more concerned with the
} comparison between different mounting techniques so similar
} specimens mounted by the various techniques would be OK.
}
} To save you a lot of time in experimenting I suggest that
} you use the minimum amount of mounting material, you want
} the smallest possible surface area to see the vacuum and
} you want the lowest desorption (outgassing) rate and lowest
} vapour pressure.
}
} Of your 4 options I would not use sticky pads or waxes. I
} would only use epoxy or conductive inks and pastes fully
} underneath the specimen and ensure that the small amount
} used was fully cured and dried by pumping it out in a
} vacuum rig before loading it into the microscope. I would
} also store it under vacuum before loading.
}
} Good luck,
} Ron
}
} }
} } We just acquired a new high resolution SEM (FEG) and want to keep it
} } "clean". How can I find out about out-gassing rates and the relative
} } "cleanliness" of various sample preparation supplies:
} }
} } 1. sticky dots
} } 2. conductive inks and pastes
} } 3. epoxies
} } 4. waxes
} }
} } Is there an accepted method for rating these materials?
} }
} }
}
} ----------------------
} Mr. R.C. Doole
} Department of Materials,
} University of Oxford.
} Parks Road, Oxford. OX1 3PH. UK.
} Phone +44 (0) 1865 273701
} Fax +44 (0) 1865 283333
} ron.doole-at-materials.ox.ac.uk



From daemon Wed Jun 6 06:53:10 2001



From: Ken Converse :      qualityimages-at-netrax.net
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 07:49:13 -0400
Subject: Re: SEM/EDS Need port cover for JEOL 840 microscope

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Dave,
Unless you have been running an exceptionally clean and good vacuum, a
rubber stopper of the correct size will do nicely as a temporary
substitute. In particular, make sure that it's not too small so that it
doesn't get sucked through the port at 15 psi. Otherwise, after a
couple of hours of pumping, the outgassing should be minimal (better
after overnight).

Clean the sides of the stopper with IPA or some similar solvent and use
a very small amount of your favorite vacuum grease around the sides.

Ken Converse
owner
Quality Images
third party SEM service
Delta, PA

David Wilbur wrote:

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} My Oxford EDS x-ray detector needs to be returned to Oxford for repair,
} and unfortunately, I cannot locate the original cover for the EDS port
} on the microscope. Neither Oxford not JEOL can supply a cover. I do
} not want to lose the use of the SEM for imaging while the detector is
} repaired. The microscope is a JEOL JXA-840. As far as I know, the
} column is identical to the JSM-840. Is there anyone out there able and
} willing to help me with a sale, rent, or loan of a suitable cover until
} my x-ray detector is repaired.
}
} Thank you.
}
} Dave Wilbur
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From daemon Wed Jun 6 08:29:08 2001



From: HARRISm-at-esm-semi.co.uk
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 14:19 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Filament life but not as we know it .

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Dear Colleagues ,

We currently use either Denka or Fei filaments in our
FESEM which have generally given similar results over similar
lifetimes .
However for various reasons we are mow experiencing occasional stray
magnetic field interference with corresponding deterioration in image
quality .
I have never really thought it through but what's actually happening
at the tip ?..

1. Apart from occasional irritating beam 'sway' is physical damage
being done to the tungsten tip with this interference and

2. Assuming a fluid zirconia film/ball exists at the tip of the
tungsten filament is this being consumed more quickly influencing
lifetime ?

Best regards

Martyn


From M Harris
Device Engineering
ESM Ltd , Cardiff Rd .
Newport , South Wales
NP10 8YJ .

Email harrism-at-esm-semi.co.uk




From daemon Wed Jun 6 08:54:46 2001



From: Ronald Anderson :      anderron-at-US.ibm.com
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:46:20 -0400
Subject: salary survey

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A comprehensive microscopy salary survey was published in the old EMSA
Bulletin in the early 80's. It is too old to be useful. More recently,
there was a smaller survey in "Microscopy Today." Check with Don Grimes
at: microtoday-at-mindspring.com

Perhaps it's time for a new comprehensive survey.



Ron Anderson, IBM, Hopewell Jct., New York, USA. anderron-at-us.ibm.com

IBM Analytical Services; http://www.chips.ibm.com/services/asg



"Rajesh Patel" {rpatel-at-umdnj.edu} on 06/05/2001 01:27:32 PM

To: {microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com}
cc:


I beleive that some time a go a salray survey was
done for electron microscopy field. How and where
can I access that info.


Rajesh Patel
Robert Wood Johnson Medical School
Dept. of Pathology
Electron Microscopy Lab
675 Hoes Lane
Piscataway, NJ 08854

(732)235-4648
rpatel-at-umdnj.edu






From daemon Wed Jun 6 08:55:45 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:52:20 -0400
Subject: RE: SEM/EDS Need port cover for JEOL 840 microscope

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Dear Dave,
While the exact fit would be nice, the dimensions of the requirement
would be nicer. Also, if you haven't called the JEOL service center near
you, you might try that. I have parts galore, but I have to know more about
the item.

Fred Monson

Frederick C. Monson, PhD
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging (CASI)
Schmucker II Science Center (Room: SS024(Basement))
South Church Street
West Chester, PA, 19383
MailDrop: Department of Geology/Astronomy
Phone: 610-738-0437
Fax: 610-436-3036
email: fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Please call before visiting.


} ----------
} From: David Wilbur
} Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2001 3:37 PM
} To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: SEM/EDS Need port cover for JEOL 840 microscope
}
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}
} My Oxford EDS x-ray detector needs to be returned to Oxford for repair,
} and unfortunately, I cannot locate the original cover for the EDS port
} on the microscope. Neither Oxford not JEOL can supply a cover. I do
} not want to lose the use of the SEM for imaging while the detector is
} repaired. The microscope is a JEOL JXA-840. As far as I know, the
} column is identical to the JSM-840. Is there anyone out there able and
} willing to help me with a sale, rent, or loan of a suitable cover until
} my x-ray detector is repaired.
}
} Thank you.
}
} Dave Wilbur
}
} --
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} Department of Chemistry
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}
}
}
}


From daemon Wed Jun 6 10:10:32 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:05:08 -0400
Subject: RE: sectioning tantalum matrix

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I would suggest glycol methacrylate embedment (as a start) and thin
sectioning with a carbide knife (expensive, but well worth the cost when
materials are 'hard')

Fred Monson


Frederick C. Monson, PhD
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging (CASI)
Schmucker II Science Center (Room: SS024(Basement))
South Church Street
West Chester, PA, 19383
MailDrop: Department of Geology/Astronomy
Phone: 610-738-0437
Fax: 610-436-3036
email: fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Please call before visiting.




} ----------
} From: Maria Ericsson
} Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2001 11:53 AM
} To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: sectioning tantalum matrix
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}
} I am posting this for a college, Lauri Wyner, in the Pathology Core.
} I have no idea how to section this stuff...!
}
} Thanks!
} Maria Ericsson
}
} My question is:
} I have a carbon coated porous tantalum matrix approximately 1 cm in
} circumference and 2 mm thick. This matrix has fixed cells adhered to the
} surface and throughout. I would like to embed this, make slides and stain
} for H&E to confirm the presences of cells as well as immunohistochemistry
} to characterize them. I am looking for suggestions on how I can section
} this matrix while maintaining its overall structure. Any information would
}
} be greatly appreciated.
}
}
}
} Lauri Wyner
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From daemon Wed Jun 6 10:11:30 2001



From: Ingram, Mike :      MIngram-at-rodel.com
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:06:15 -0400
Subject: EDS and High Magnification

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I keep running into users who believe that High magnification for an SEM,
say 20,000X and greater is a benefit to EDS analysis. I have always been
under the impression that high magnification is not a benefit to EDS due
to the large interaction volume of X-rays. Comments please.


Mike Ingram
Rodel Inc.


From daemon Wed Jun 6 10:31:08 2001



From: JHoffpa464-at-aol.com
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:26:48 EDT
Subject: test

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this is a test


From daemon Wed Jun 6 10:44:23 2001



From: Walck, Scott D. :      walck-at-ppg.com
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:38:22 -0400
Subject: EDS and High Magnification

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The keyword here is analysis. You are absolutely correct for this. The interaction volume will definitely be much larger than the particular feature that the beam can fully resolve. I preached this for many years and still do to a certain extent. However, it was shown to me by a colleague here after we had been arguing about it that in fact you can get meaningful qualitative information from areas much smaller than the interaction volume. He showed me that putting the beam on a surface feature on a thin film on glass that had a lateral spatial dimension less than 0.1 um and comparing it to an area adjacent to this area gave a significant difference in the spectra. Enough of a difference that it enabled him to pinpoint the problem. We do quite a lot of qualitative analysis and very little quantitative analysis. From that standpoint, higher magnifications can be quite useful, but not for quantitative analysis.

-Scott

Scott D. Walck, Ph.D.
PPG Industries, Inc.
Glass Technology Center
P. O. Box 11472 (letters)
Guys Run Rd. (packages)
Pittsburgh, PA 15238-0472

Walck-at-PPG.com

(412) 820-8651 (office)
(412) 820-8515 (fax)



-----Original Message-----
} From: Ingram, Mike [mailto:MIngram-at-rodel.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:06 AM
To: 'Microscopy-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com'


I keep running into users who believe that High magnification for an SEM,
say 20,000X and greater is a benefit to EDS analysis. I have always been
under the impression that high magnification is not a benefit to EDS due
to the large interaction volume of X-rays. Comments please.


Mike Ingram
Rodel Inc.


From daemon Wed Jun 6 11:03:21 2001



From: Ronald Vane :      RVaneXEI-at-concentric.net
Date: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:44 AM
Subject: Out-gassing, etc.

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Karen and all,

I agree that good vacuum practice is the first line of defense in keeping
your new FEG SEM clean. The use of most of these materials may dirty your
microscope.

XEI Scientific does offer a system to remove outgassed hydrocarbons from the
walls and atmosphere of your microscope. The details about our EVACTRON
SEM-CLEAN system may be found at www.SEMCLEAN.com This system was
specifically developed for keeping FEG SEMs clean.

Ron Vane
XEI Scientific
3124 Wessex Way
Redwood City, CA 94061
(650)-369-0133

-----Original Message-----
} From: Karen Dye {karen.dye-at-medtronic.com}
To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com {Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com}



From daemon Wed Jun 6 11:08:32 2001



From: Bob Roberts :      bobrobs-at-earthlink.net
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 09:07:53 -0700
Subject: Re: SEM/EDS Need port cover for JEOL 840 microscope

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} My Oxford EDS x-ray detector needs to be returned to Oxford for repair,
} and unfortunately, I cannot locate the original cover for the EDS port
} on the microscope. Neither Oxford not JEOL can supply a cover. I do
} not want to lose the use of the SEM for imaging while the detector is
} repaired. The microscope is a JEOL JXA-840. As far as I know, the
} column is identical to the JSM-840. Is there anyone out there able and
} willing to help me with a sale, rent, or loan of a suitable cover until
} my x-ray detector is repaired.
}
David,

There are actually at least two different ports that could
be used for mounting of the xray detector or, in this case,
the blanking plate for the removed detector.

Is it the high take off angle port or the side mount,
circular port?

P.S. I would advise against using a rubber stopper. This
technique could leave you needing more than a blanking plate.

Bob Roberts
EM Lab Services, Inc.
2409 S. Rural Rd Suite C
Tempe, Arizona 85282
(480) 967-3946
"www.emlabservices.com"



From daemon Wed Jun 6 12:27:06 2001



From: David Knecht :      knecht-at-uconn.edu
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:03:52 -0400
Subject: sutter lambda DG4

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I would like to hear from users out there about experience with the
Sutter Lambda DG4 fluorescence source/filter changer. It looks very
nice on paper. How is brightness/field uniformity/flexibility for
general use. We want ratio capability which it appears good at, but
we also want versatility for normal single fluor imaging at various
wavelengths. Any comments about using this as opposed to a standard
mercury, standard xenon, or monochromator for a general fluorescence
microscopy facility are appreciated. Thanks- Dave
--

************************************************************
Dr. David Knecht
Department of Molecular and Cell Biology
University of Connecticut
75 N. Eagleville Rd. U-125
Storrs, CT 06269-3125
Knecht-at-uconnvm.uconn.edu
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From daemon Wed Jun 6 17:38:27 2001



From: Ritchie Sims :      r.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:44:00 GMT+1200
Subject: rubber stopper ok

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Generally, nothing is happening to the tip by the magnetic fields as the
only components that affect filament life are: pressure, overdriving, & poor
filament construction.

Earl

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} From: {"HARRISm-at-esm-semi.co.uk"-at-sparc5.microscopy.com}
To: {Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com}
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:19 AM



A rubber stopper, well-greased with appropriate grease, worked fine
on my 840 in a similar situation, no degradation of vacuum.
Just make absolutely sure that it's big enough that there's no chance
of its being sucked right in, and that nobody knocks into it!

cheers

rtch





}
}
} } My Oxford EDS x-ray detector needs to be returned to Oxford for repair,
} } and unfortunately, I cannot locate the original cover for the EDS port
} } on the microscope. Neither Oxford not JEOL can supply a cover. I do
} } not want to lose the use of the SEM for imaging while the detector is
} } repaired. The microscope is a JEOL JXA-840. As far as I know, the
} } column is identical to the JSM-840. Is there anyone out there able and
} } willing to help me with a sale, rent, or loan of a suitable cover until
} } my x-ray detector is repaired.
} }
} David,
}
} There are actually at least two different ports that could
} be used for mounting of the xray detector or, in this case,
} the blanking plate for the removed detector.
}
} Is it the high take off angle port or the side mount,
} circular port?
}
} P.S. I would advise against using a rubber stopper. This
} technique could leave you needing more than a blanking plate.
Dr Ritchie Sims Phone : 64 9 3737599 ext 7713
Department of Geology Fax : 64 9 3737435
The University of Auckland email : r.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz
Private Bag 92019
Auckland
New Zealand


From daemon Thu Jun 7 00:02:33 2001



From: Smartech :      smartech-at-javanet.com
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 01:07:34 -0400
Subject: EDS and High Magnification

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I recently performed an x-ray map and line scan on a cross sectioned Ag on
Cu sample at 20,000X (15kV) and was able to show little to no migration of
the Ag into the Cu. I was very surprised at how sharp the demarcations
between the layers were at 20,000 in the x-ray maps and line scans. I would
be happy to share the data w/ any interested parties. It is my opinion that
high magnification EDS analysis can be useful. Of' course one can lower the
kV or work with very thin samples to push the limits.

Ric

-----Original Message-----
} From: Ingram, Mike [mailto:MIngram-at-rodel.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:06 AM
To: 'Microscopy-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com'


I keep running into users who believe that High magnification for an SEM,
say 20,000X and greater is a benefit to EDS analysis. I have always been
under the impression that high magnification is not a benefit to EDS due
to the large interaction volume of X-rays. Comments please.


Mike Ingram
Rodel Inc.





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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 01:07:34 -0400
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From daemon Thu Jun 7 03:05:53 2001



From: Allen R. Sampson :      ars-at-sem.com
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 03:03:17 -0500
Subject: RE: Filament life but not as we know it .

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EMF does not generally affect SEMs in the electron column, sufficient
shielding being provided by the normal design of these areas. Once the
beam leaves the final pole piece and enters the sample chamber, though, it
is a different matter. You can tell if the major influence is in the
chamber by doing a simple qualitative measure of the interference at
different working distances. If the problem is greater at the longer
working distance, then the EMF is influencing the beam during its traverse
through the sample chamber.

The same is basically true for vibrational effects. Within the column,
physical movement of the instrument laterally is somewhat cancelled by the
changing proximity to the applied fields of the electron optic system.
Once free of those fields, though, movement of the instrument (and thus
the sample) change the apparent position of the beam. Once again, the
effect is reduced with a reduction in the working distance.

The first step has to be to determine whether the problem is EMF or
vibration - quite possibly both. Since many vibrational sources are linked
to the electrical line frequency, this can sometimes be tough. However,
most modern SEMs should be quite capable of damping 60Hz. vibrations, but
if EMF of any low frequency can come in then all low frequencies will be
allowed in - EMF shielding is far less specific than vibrational.

This leads to the usual trick of trying to determine the offensive
frequency by counting the number of 'saw-tooth' edges in a portion of a
slow image sweep. If the frequency is close to 60Hz then it is probably
EMF.

If the appearance of a problem like this is rather sudden, then the natural
tendency is to find a temporal link to some change in the system. Taking
this approach, though, you have to be sure to include all possible changes
that may have taken place. For both problems, you have to consider if any
changes have been made in the environment around the SEM. Has any
equipment been added or moved in the area that may affect the instrument?
Can the effect be due to a seasonal change in the HVAC equipment in use?
Have there been any increases in the current load on any power
distribution lines near the instrument?

More intimate causes also have to be accessed. Have any electrical cables,
air, water or vacuum lines on the SEM been repositioned? EMF isolation
generally involves putting a distance between any sources and any
receptors. Vibrational isolation generally involves that as well as
several levels of damping that require isolation between them. A simple
cable or tube that is moved and bridges the isolation of one or more stages
can destroy their effectiveness. Moving a computer monitor or external
vacuum gauge controller a few inches can make profound changes in received
EMF.

Finally, one has to consider time. Time, along with other influences, can
produce changes such as corrosion of electrical connections that can cause
high resistance in ground connections (in this case a 'high' resistance of
only a few ohms can cause ground loop currents in instruments that can
become a real problem). Another problem with aging instruments is in the
filter capacitors of their power supplies. Capacitors age, and in doing
so, their values often change. If a circuit is very tightly designed, this
change can result in an increase in a 60 Hz ripple seen in power supplies.
If circuit designs rely heavily on bypass capacitors to reduce ripple to
individual circuits from power supply circuits, a failure of one or more of
those capacitors can also result in increased supply ripple to circuits.
Such failures will have the appearance of an induced EMF effect, but
without the dependence on working distance.

Seems like I've said a lot, but I haven't even scratched the surface.
SEMs, and particularly FESEMs are extremely sensitive instruments. Their
design, implementation and continued operation are a continual balance of
many factors. However, the problems you describe are probably not related
to the use of third-party emitters.

You didn't mention the make and model of the instrument you are using, or
the particular orientation of the emitters you are using. Could you
elaborate on these?

On Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:19 AM,
"HARRISm-at-esm-semi.co.uk"-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
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} We currently use either Denka or Fei filaments in
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} FESEM which have generally given similar results over similar
} lifetimes .
} However for various reasons we are mow experiencing occasional stray
} magnetic field interference with corresponding deterioration in
image
} quality .
} I have never really thought it through but what's actually happening
} at the tip ?..
}
} 1. Apart from occasional irritating beam 'sway' is physical damage
} being done to the tungsten tip with this interference and
}
} 2. Assuming a fluid zirconia film/ball exists at the tip of the
} tungsten filament is this being consumed more quickly influencing
} lifetime ?
}
} Best regards
}
} Martyn
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From daemon Thu Jun 7 03:56:23 2001



From: Allen R. Sampson :      ars-at-sem.com
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 03:52:58 -0500
Subject: RE: EDS and High Magnification

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Interesting question. I generally let users know that the interactions of
electrons and x-ray generation and flourescence limit the analytical volume
to a sphere of 50 - 100 microns in diameter. However, that assumes that
you want to quantify that specific volume. There are many times when you
want different criteria. For example, if one were to do a line scan across
the interface of two differing materials. In this case, we can
artificially determine the boundary as a function of the constantly varying
intensities of their different components even though the compositional
change takes place in an area much smaller than we can reasonable measure.

Such measurement, however, has to be made with the caviat of the
experimental conditions and the 'thresholds' used for determination.
Ideally, these are determined using similar matrix standards - i.e.,
similar materials whose dimensional composition can be verified by other
means.

Thin film or small particle determinations are made using assumptions that
are probably quite accurate, but have to be taken with consideration of the
experimental conditions and their effects on known compositions. One has
to be careful to ensure that the assumptions made by a particular routine
are applicable to their particular circumstances.

Case in point - you currently have the beam located on the exact center of
the interface of two widely different materials. In this case, you would
expect an equal contribution from both materials. However, you have to
consider many factors of x-ray generation by incident electron radiation,
the flourescence and cross-flourescence of the individual materials as well
as the absorption of each for varying wavelengths. Now add into the mix
the morpholgy of your specific samples. We don't currently have all the
answers to these complex problems and rely, instead, on empirical data.
The closer the empirical data to the materials you're looking at, the
better the analysis.

In brief, very minor differences between extremely close materials is
possible, but what you can make of those differences depends on the effort
you put into it.

On Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:06 AM, Ingram, Mike [SMTP:MIngram-at-rodel.com]
wrote:
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} I keep running into users who believe that High magnification for an SEM,
} say 20,000X and greater is a benefit to EDS analysis. I have always been
} under the impression that high magnification is not a benefit to EDS due
} to the large interaction volume of X-rays. Comments please.
}
}
} Mike Ingram
} Rodel Inc.
}


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From daemon Thu Jun 7 05:30:16 2001



From: Jim at Proscitech :      jim-at-proscitech.com
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 20:25:23 +1000
Subject: RE: sectioning tantalum matrix

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Tantalum is very hard and tough, so I doubt that it will section with either
diamond or tungsten carbide knives. Preparing the material like a geological
section by grinding is a possibility, but not a good one. Chances are that the
grinding material would fill the voids and the tissue would be ground away
first (although ProSciTech and others supply diamond grit embedded in plastic
disks, which are much better in that regard)
Proper vacuum infiltration with a low viscosity resin, cutting with a diamond
blade, grinding with a diamond disc would be my preparation trial.
After that either stain the surface and try your luck with a high power
reflection (metallurgical) microscope, or more likely digest the plastic and
view the specimen in SEM.
If the tantalum could be fractured open, an ESEM my offer some "insights".
There is no simple solution to the preparation of very hard and very soft
materials in one specimen.
Cheers
Jim Darley
Disclaimer: ProSciTech supplies both diamond and TC knives. I advised against
the use of either in this particular case.
ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS
PO Box 111, Thuringowa QLD 4817 Australia
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On Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:54 AM, Maria Ericsson
[SMTP:maria_ericsson-at-hms.harvard.edu] wrote:
}
}
}
} I am posting this for a college, Lauri Wyner, in the Pathology Core.
} I have no idea how to section this stuff...!
}
} Thanks!
} Maria Ericsson
}
} My question is:
} I have a carbon coated porous tantalum matrix approximately 1 cm in
} circumference and 2 mm thick. This matrix has fixed cells adhered to the
} surface and throughout. I would like to embed this, make slides and stain
} for H&E to confirm the presences of cells as well as immunohistochemistry
} to characterize them. I am looking for suggestions on how I can section
} this matrix while maintaining its overall structure. Any information would
} be greatly appreciated.
}
}
}
} Lauri Wyner
} DF/HCC Central Pathology Cores Coordinator
} Harvard Medical School
} G1-126, Goldenson Building
} 220 Longwood Avenue
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From daemon Thu Jun 7 07:09:09 2001



From: JHoffpa464-at-aol.com
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:03:25 EDT
Subject: EM COSTING

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we are in the process of cost our EM service, that is a cost breakdown for
doing EM. i know the actual costs are very small. i was wondering if anyone
has done it recently. we are a diagnostic lab.
john hoffpauir
cooper hospital


From daemon Thu Jun 7 07:15:12 2001



From: Marie E. Cantino :      cantino-at-uconnvm.uconn.edu
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:14:15 -0400
Subject: Re: rubber stopper

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Just out of curiousity. . . how much X-radiation penetrates the rubber
stopper?

Marie


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From daemon Thu Jun 7 08:57:51 2001



From: Jim at Proscitech :      jim-at-proscitech.com
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:51:08 +1000
Subject: RE: rubber stopper ok

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I vote with Ritchie. Rubber stoppers are great for temporary problems,
particularly for finding vacuum leaks. One stopper can eliminate a more complex
assembly. I somehow prefer the silicone rubber stoppers.
However, do consider X-ray penetration. Particularly on instruments above
20kV.
Cheers
Jim Darley
ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS
PO Box 111, Thuringowa QLD 4817 Australia
Ph +61 7 4774 0370 Fax:+61 7 4789 2313 service-at-proscitech.com
Great microscopy catalogue, 500 Links, MSDS, User Notes
ABN: 99 724 136 560 www.proscitech.com

On Thursday, June 07, 2001 10:44 PM, Ritchie Sims [SMTP:r.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz]
wrote:

}
}
} A rubber stopper, well-greased with appropriate grease, worked fine
} on my 840 in a similar situation, no degradation of vacuum.
} Just make absolutely sure that it's big enough that there's no chance
} of its being sucked right in, and that nobody knocks into it!
}
} cheers
}
} rtch
}
}
}
}
}
} }
} }
} } } My Oxford EDS x-ray detector needs to be returned to Oxford for repair,
} } } and unfortunately, I cannot locate the original cover for the EDS port
} } } on the microscope. Neither Oxford not JEOL can supply a cover. I do
} } } not want to lose the use of the SEM for imaging while the detector is
} } } repaired. The microscope is a JEOL JXA-840. As far as I know, the
} } } column is identical to the JSM-840. Is there anyone out there able and
} } } willing to help me with a sale, rent, or loan of a suitable cover until
} } } my x-ray detector is repaired.
} } }
} } David,
} }
} } There are actually at least two different ports that could
} } be used for mounting of the xray detector or, in this case,
} } the blanking plate for the removed detector.
} }
} } Is it the high take off angle port or the side mount,
} } circular port?
} }
} } P.S. I would advise against using a rubber stopper. This
} } technique could leave you needing more than a blanking plate.
} Dr Ritchie Sims Phone : 64 9 3737599 ext 7713
} Department of Geology Fax : 64 9 3737435
} The University of Auckland email : r.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz
} Private Bag 92019
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} New Zealand


From daemon Thu Jun 7 11:02:59 2001



From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 17:25:54 -0500
Subject: Sectioning Ta

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In order to re-send this email, I had to change the subject line to stop a rejection because of the r word.

-----Original Message-----
} From: Beauregard, Paul A.
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:39 AM
To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


-- [ From: Garber, Charles A. * EMC.Ver #3.1 ] --

Jim Darley wrote:

====================================================
Tantalum is very hard and tough, so I doubt that it will section with either

diamond or tungsten carbide knives. Preparing the material like a geological

section by grinding is a possibility, but not a good one. Chances are that
the
grinding material would fill the voids and the tissue would be ground away
first (although ProSciTech and others supply diamond grit embedded in
plastic
disks, which are much better in that regard)
Proper vacuum infiltration with a low viscosity resin, cutting with a
diamond
blade, grinding with a diamond disc would be my preparation trial.
After that either stain the surface and try your luck with a high power
reflection (metallurgical) microscope, or more likely digest the plastic and

view the specimen in SEM.
If the tantalum could be fractured open, an ESEM my offer some "insights".
There is no simple solution to the preparation of very hard and very soft
materials in one specimen.
=====================================================
Actually Ta **can** be thin sectioned if it is done by someone with the
proper experience and who is using the right kind of diamond knife. We have
offered our SPI #02888-AB sectioned Ta foil on a grid for AEM studies for
some number of years; see URL
http://www.2spi.com/catalog/standards/aem.html

The Ta system that prompted the original posting was thicker, however, it is
also porous, and if properly infiltrated with resin, and assuming the
porosity is above some point, in principle, at least, there is no reason why
it could not be thin sectioned for TEM. No method is really artifact free,
but some artifacts are more easy to recognize than others. Knife induced
artifacts are anisotripic (e.g. directional) in nature and can be more
easily recognized (as artifacts) than artifacts caused by say, ion milling,
which are isotropic in nature.

When I say "right kind of diamond knife", I am not suggesting that the SPI
diamond knife could do something above and beyond what other diamond knives
could do. What I am saying is that there is a process of selection of the
optimum knife angle, because one might have to be prepared to use a knife
with a fairly low (for materials science work) knife angle, rather than a
more blunt angle, but with the downside is that it will wear out more
quickly. That might make for great business for a diamond knife supplier,
but it does tend to get expensive for the user who is not so experienced
with this kind of sectioning.

Disclaimer: SPI Supplies offers diamond knives, both materials and life
science, and we have done this kind of sectioning, as a service, for
commercial clients for over thirty years.

Chuck

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From: zaluzec-at-microscopy.com
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:40:56 -0500
Subject: Administrivia: Listserver Rejection Errors...

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Colleagues....

I hate to say this, but alot of mail got rejected today by accident.

I was updating the junk mail filters last night and unintentionally created
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From daemon Thu Jun 7 19:50:44 2001



From: David Henriks :      henriks-at-southbaytech.com
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 17:48:21 -0700
Subject: sectioning tantalum matrix

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Following up on Jim's comments about using mechanical cutting and
grinding
techniques, I have some insight that may help. Jim mentioned that
"There is no
simple solution to the preparation of very hard and very soft materials
in one
specimen". This is true to some degree, but there are solutions. For
example,
the use of a wire saw is actually ideal for cutting through materials
containing
both hard and soft phases. The wire saw can be used either with an
abrasive
slurry or with a diamond impregnated wire. Use with an abrasive slurry
is ideal
for cutting materials of various hardness without damage or the smearing
effect
that you would see with a diamond wheel saw.

To be honest, I have no idea if this saw would do what you want it to do
in this
application, however if the difficulty is the hard/soft combination, the
wire saw
is one potentially viable solution. Also, I'm not sure if you need to
embed the
sample, but I would suggest forgoing tat step, if possible, if oyu are
going to
try the wire saw technique.

DISCLAIMER: South Bay Technology pioneered the development of the wire
saw in the
early 60s and continues to produce wire saws for many applications
today.

I hope this helps.

David

Jim at Proscitech wrote:

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} Tantalum is very hard and tough, so I doubt that it will section with
either
} diamond or tungsten carbide knives. Preparing the material like a
geological
} section by grinding is a possibility, but not a good one. Chances are
that the
} grinding material would fill the voids and the tissue would be ground
away
} first (although ProSciTech and others supply diamond grit embedded in
plastic
} disks, which are much better in that regard)
} Proper vacuum infiltration with a low viscosity resin, cutting with a
diamond
} blade, grinding with a diamond disc would be my preparation trial.
} After that either stain the surface and try your luck with a high
power
} reflection (metallurgical) microscope, or more likely digest the
plastic and
} view the specimen in SEM.
} If the tantalum could be fractured open, an ESEM my offer some
"insights".
} There is no simple solution to the preparation of very hard and very
soft
} materials in one specimen.
} Cheers
} Jim Darley
} Disclaimer: ProSciTech supplies both diamond and TC knives. I advised
against
} the use of either in this particular case.
} ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS
} PO Box 111, Thuringowa QLD 4817 Australia
} Ph +61 7 4774 0370 Fax:+61 7 4789 2313 service-at-proscitech.com
} Great microscopy catalogue, 500 Links, MSDS, User Notes
} ABN: 99 724 136 560 www.proscitech.com
}
} On Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:54 AM, Maria Ericsson
} [SMTP:maria_ericsson-at-hms.harvard.edu] wrote:
} }
} }
} }
} } I am posting this for a college, Lauri Wyner, in the Pathology Core.

} } I have no idea how to section this stuff...!
} }
} } Thanks!
} } Maria Ericsson
} }
} } My question is:
} } I have a carbon coated porous tantalum matrix approximately 1 cm in
} } circumference and 2 mm thick. This matrix has fixed cells adhered to
the
} } surface and throughout. I would like to embed this, make slides and
stain
} } for H&E to confirm the presences of cells as well as
immunohistochemistry
} } to characterize them. I am looking for suggestions on how I can
section
} } this matrix while maintaining its overall structure. Any information
would
} } be greatly appreciated.
} }
} }
} }
} } Lauri Wyner
} } DF/HCC Central Pathology Cores Coordinator
} } Harvard Medical School
} } G1-126, Goldenson Building
} } 220 Longwood Avenue
} } Boston, MA 02115
} } Tele: (617) 432-4947
} } Fas: (617) 432-6474
} } Lauri_wyner-at-hms.harvard.edu
} }
} }

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From daemon Thu Jun 7 21:34:54 2001



From: Tindall, Randy D. :      TindallR-at-missouri.edu
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:28:05 -0500
Subject: TEM: LR White weirdness

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Dear Listers,

While infiltrating a set of specimens (insect abdomens and thoraxes) in LR
White, something occurred that has so far defied my attempts to figure out.
I was doing
side by side microwave and conventional fixations, dehydrations, and
embeddings. The microwave specimens were dehydrated in acetone, behaved
normally, and we
have polymerized blocks. However I dehydrated the conventional set in an
ethanol series, as we have done many times before in LR White. The first
infiltration step
was 2 parts ethanol to one part LR White Medium Grade at room temp, and
upon going later to change into 1:1, I found that the resin/ETOH mix had
partially
polymerized into a spongy, granular mass. Uh-oh, bad resin, I said, along
with a few other choice words.

After the initial panic, I ended up putting the chunks into pure LR White
from a newly opened bottle and the partially polymerized resin seemed to go
back into solution. I
ran them through a couple more changes of pure resin, then left them on a
rocker overnight at room temperature. Checking them this morning, I found
two of the
samples were fine, and the third had polymerized into a rubbery mass.
Same bottle of resin, same identically processed samples, same everything.

An additional tube with a sample of the "bad" resin was also happily
unpolymerized, as was the remainder of the "bad" resin in the bottle, which
I had left in the fume
hood overnight at room temperature. The "bad" resin was slightly more
than a year old and has been refrigerated at 4 C since we got it. The
second resin is about 10
months old and has also been constantly refrigerated. Neither had any
accelerator in them (at least none added by us).

I have my share of problems with LR White, but this one really has us
puzzled. Could there have been something in the samples that triggered a
polymerization? Can
LR White react with some plastics in this way? (We were using a
relatively new batch of Eppendorf tubes that seem more hydrophobic than our
previous ones.) Could
it have been the full moon?

Regards,
Randy

Randy Tindall
EM Specialist
Electron Microscopy Core Facility
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University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211
(573) 882-8304
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From daemon Thu Jun 7 21:34:55 2001



From: Tina Carvalho :      tina-at-pbrc.hawaii.edu
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:29:12 -1000 (HST)
Subject: TEM - effects of osmolarity

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Hi, All-

Does anyone have a reference for or some transmission electron micrographs
that illustrate the effects of osmolarity of buffers on animal cells? I
would like to show students on tour of our facility shrinkage and swelling
of cells and organelles. I have other wonderful artifacts to show,
including one of my first sections with chatter so bad it looks like
mini-blinds...

Mahalo!
Tina

http://www.pbrc.hawaii.edu/bemf/microangela

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From daemon Thu Jun 7 23:58:26 2001



From: Arthur Day :      ard-at-ansto.gov.au
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:53:41 +1000
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Doesn't anybody supply X-ray proof rubber bungs for microscope ports?

No worries. Just wrap a few sheets of lead foil around the column and
make sure pregnant operators stay below 5kV ;-(

Surely something somewhat less desperate could be cobbled together
out of metal without too much extra work?



From daemon Fri Jun 8 03:34:30 2001



From: Patton, David :      David.Patton-at-uwe.ac.uk
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:28:17 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
Subject: Re: TEM - effects of osmolarity

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Biomedical Electron Microscopy by Maunsbach A B & Afzelius
B A (1999) has several pages of illustrations of shrinkage
etc.

Dave


On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:29:12 -1000 (HST) Tina Carvalho
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} Does anyone have a reference for or some transmission electron micrographs
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} would like to show students on tour of our facility shrinkage and swelling
} of cells and organelles. I have other wonderful artifacts to show,
} including one of my first sections with chatter so bad it looks like
} mini-blinds...
}
} Mahalo!
} Tina
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From daemon Fri Jun 8 07:03:21 2001



From: Jim at Proscitech :      jim-at-proscitech.com
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:53:48 +1000
Subject: RE: Sectioning Ta

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Chuck - the point of the original request was not to section Ta - which is hard
enough, but do show the cells attached to the Ta. If you think that you can
section Ta without the cells being ripped away, then do it. I will praise your
skills when I can see useful results.
Cheers
Jim Darley
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On Friday, June 08, 2001 8:26 AM, Garber, Charles A. [SMTP:cgarber-at-2spi.com]
wrote:
}
}
} -- [ From: Garber, Charles A. * EMC.Ver #3.1 ] --
}
} Jim Darley wrote:
}
} ====================================================
} Tantalum is very hard and tough, so I doubt that it will section with either
}
} diamond or tungsten carbide knives. Preparing the material like a geological
}
} section by grinding is a possibility, but not a good one. Chances are that
} the
} grinding material would fill the voids and the tissue would be ground away
} first (although ProSciTech and others supply diamond grit embedded in
} plastic
} disks, which are much better in that regard)
} Proper vacuum infiltration with a low viscosity resin, cutting with a
} diamond
} blade, grinding with a diamond disc would be my preparation trial.
} After that either stain the surface and try your luck with a high power
} reflection (metallurgical) microscope, or more likely digest the plastic and
}
} view the specimen in SEM.
} If the tantalum could be fractured open, an ESEM my offer some "insights".
} There is no simple solution to the preparation of very hard and very soft
} materials in one specimen.
} =====================================================
} Actually Ta **can** be thin sectioned if it is done by someone with the
} proper experience and who is using the right kind of diamond knife. We have
} offered our SPI #02888-AB sectioned Ta foil on a grid for AEM studies for
} some number of years; see URL
} http://www.2spi.com/catalog/standards/aem.html
}
} The Ta system that prompted the original posting was thicker, however, it is
} also porous, and if properly infiltrated with resin, and assuming the
} porosity is above some point, in principle, at least, there is no reason why
} it could not be thin sectioned for TEM. No method is really artifact free,
} but some artifacts are more easy to recognize than others. Knife induced
} artifacts are anisotripic (e.g. directional) in nature and can be more
} easily recognized (as artifacts) than artifacts caused by say, ion milling,
} which are isotropic in nature.
}
} When I say "right kind of diamond knife", I am not suggesting that the SPI
} diamond knife could do something above and beyond what other diamond knives
} could do. What I am saying is that there is a process of selection of the
} optimum knife angle, because one might have to be prepared to use a knife
} with a fairly low (for materials science work) knife angle, rather than a
} more blunt angle, but with the downside is that it will wear out more
} quickly. That might make for great business for a diamond knife supplier,
} but it does tend to get expensive for the user who is not so experienced
} with this kind of sectioning.
}
} Disclaimer: SPI Supplies offers diamond knives, both materials and life
} science, and we have done this kind of sectioning, as a service, for
} commercial clients for over thirty years.
}
} Chuck
}
} PS: Please remember that we are nearly 100% paperless and we would ask that
} any reply to this message be by way of the "reply" feature on your software,
} so that the entire string of correspondence can come back to us and all be
} in one place.
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From daemon Fri Jun 8 07:46:14 2001



From: Geoff McAuliffe :      mcauliff-at-umdnj.edu
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 08:42:53 -0400
Subject: Re: TEM - effects of osmolarity

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Tina Carvalho wrote:

} Hi, All-
}
} Does anyone have a reference for or some transmission electron micrographs
} that illustrate the effects of osmolarity of buffers on animal cells? I
} would like to show students on tour of our facility shrinkage and swelling
} of cells and organelles. I have other wonderful artifacts to show,
} including one of my first sections with chatter so bad it looks like
} mini-blinds...
}
} Mahalo!
} Tina

Arborgh et al. J. Ultrastruc. Res. 56:339-350, 1976. A classic study.

}
}
} http://www.pbrc.hawaii.edu/bemf/microangela
}
} ****************************************************************************
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} * Biological Electron Microscope Facility * (808) 956-6251 *
} * University of Hawaii at Manoa * http://www.pbrc.hawaii.edu/bemf*
} ****************************************************************************

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From daemon Fri Jun 8 08:01:48 2001



From: Jim at Proscitech :      jim-at-proscitech.com
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 22:59:03 +1000
Subject: RE: rubber stopper, suction X-rays

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The utility of rubber stoppers to seal a SEM has been doubted.
1 Somebody may chose too smaller stopper size and the stopper may be sucked
into the column. Good point, just like noting that the stopper must be inserted
from the outside of the SEM. Yes!

2 The X-ray objection is one which needs to be addressed. I had looked up that
data some years ago, when in need of temporary blanks.
Because of the questions I again looked for the data, now on the marvelous
Internet . The common Monte Carlo programs would give similar results, but the
show the bulk of the X-ray interaction, whereas we are interested in maximum
penetration. I recommend
http://www-cxro.lbl.gov/optical_constants/atten2.html
This site allows some data entry and then calculates the attenuation length at
which the X-ray intensity falls of to 1eV at the surface. Assuming that Teflon
is close to rubber in absorption, then 20keV X-ray photons are attenuated in
5mm of rubber. Whereas 30keV photons are only attenuated in about 12mm of
rubber. Clearly, it would be unwise to run the kV of a TEM, when blanked with a
rubber stopper.
It is also clear that a SEM/ Probe when operated at 20 kV would not produce
X-rays capable of penetrating a normal rubber stopper.
Incidentally, a 20kV beam would produce somewhat lower KeV X-ray photons. X-ray
generation depends on the interaction with electron shells. Only the heavier
metals can produce powerful X-rays and to reach full fluorescence (maximum
production) the kV needs to be about 2x that of the X-ray KeV.
Cheers
Jim Darley
PS Red stoppers contain Iron oxide pigment, whereas black stoppers (I presume)
have negligible metal content.
Question: Considering that iron has greater X-ray stopping power than carbon,
should we assume that it is smarter to use red stoppers???
The opposing argument would be that the iron could generate more high energy
X-rays.

I don't know the answer (would be amused to learn though), but I prefer
silicone rubber stoppers because they form a better vacuum seal.

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On Thursday, June 07, 2001 10:14 PM, Marie E. Cantino
[SMTP:cantino-at-uconnvm.uconn.edu] wrote:
}
}
} Just out of curiousity. . . how much X-radiation penetrates the rubber
} stopper?
}
} Marie
}

} I vote with Ritchie. Rubber stoppers are great for temporary problems,
} particularly for finding vacuum leaks. One stopper can eliminate a more
complex
} assembly. I somehow prefer the silicone rubber stoppers.
} However, do consider X-ray penetration. Particularly on instruments above
} 20kV.
} Cheers
} Jim Darley
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}
} }
} } A rubber stopper, well-greased with appropriate grease, worked fine
} } on my 840 in a similar situation, no degradation of vacuum.
} } Just make absolutely sure that it's big enough that there's no chance
} } of its being sucked right in, and that nobody knocks into it!
} }
} } cheers
} }
} } rtch
} }
}
} Dr. Marie E. Cantino
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} University of Connecticut
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} Fax: 860-486-6369
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From daemon Fri Jun 8 08:05:58 2001



From: Ken Converse :      qualityimages-at-netrax.net
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 10:15:49 -0400
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I usually wrap several layers of aluminum foil over the stopper if I need to
use it.
This will stop most of the X-rays.
Fortunately, the EDS port is to the rear of the column and pointing upward.

Earl



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-------- Original Message --------


Pehaps someone could provide a better analysis, but I have a couple of
anecdotes:

I had a Canadian customer (20+ years ago) who specialized in very long
EDS x-ray sweeps in either dot map form or a combined YZ modulated
form. As I recall, some of these scans were up to 16 hours long. He
had a Plexiglass port cover so that he could easily see his chamber
geometry. This had a metal cover that was velvet lined for light
leakage. Once he put his radiation badge inside the metal cover for a
month, then turned it in. There apparently was nothing out of the
ordinary, as his rad peo;le never said "boo". Perhaps it's a commentary
on the rad people, but a full month exposure?

Second, I had another customer get me some rad figures on an SEM gun
operating at 30kV and 150uA (1.5x10E-4). The bottom line was that the
x-ray output from the gun was very serious, but all the guns are
enclosed in steel. No problem. At the specimen for EDS work we're
usually talking about 200-600pA (2-6x10E-10), or roughly 6 orders of
magnitude less current and the stopper is going to absorb some of the
x-rays generated. Is this really a problem?

I'm not talking about TEMs, as they can be very dangerous. The current
at the screen is much higher, the excitation voltage is much higher and
there is this large expanse of glass that MUST be leaded. Perhaps the
currents used for WDS would also present a problem (10-100 nA or 10E-8
to 10E-7) at 2 to 3 orders of magnitude more than EDS.

Don't forget, those nice color displays on the four computers
surrounding you in your lab also generate x-rays and their beam currents
are in the mA range (10E-3) and an accelerating voltage of about 25kV.
There may be a decelerating grid and leaded glass on the front, but I
think you will find the the shielding on the rear of the monitor is not
so rigorous, Your dentist's x-rays are about 70kV and only one order of
magnitude greater current.

I'd love some feed-back from someone who knows radiation because I've
felt that applying TEM rules to SEMs is gross over-kill, especially with
so many color monitors around. How often do you have your decelerating
grid checked for proper operation? If it doesn't operate correctly,
your exposure could be very dangerous, given the time that one sits in
front of these things and their distance from your face.

If I'm way off base, I'd like to know and know why.

Ken Converse
owner
Quality Images
third party SEM service
Delta, PA

Arthur Day wrote:

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} }
} } Marie
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} Doesn't anybody supply X-ray proof rubber bungs for microscope ports?
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} No worries. Just wrap a few sheets of lead foil around the column and
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From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 17:25:54 -0500
Subject: Sectioning Ta

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Jim Darley wrote:

====================================================
Tantalum is very hard and tough, so I doubt that it will section with either

diamond or tungsten carbide knives. Preparing the material like a geological

section by grinding is a possibility, but not a good one. Chances are that
the
grinding material would fill the voids and the tissue would be ground away
first (although ProSciTech and others supply diamond grit embedded in
plastic
disks, which are much better in that regard)
Proper vacuum infiltration with a low viscosity resin, cutting with a
diamond
blade, grinding with a diamond disc would be my preparation trial.
After that either stain the surface and try your luck with a high power
reflection (metallurgical) microscope, or more likely digest the plastic and

view the specimen in SEM.
If the tantalum could be fractured open, an ESEM my offer some "insights".
There is no simple solution to the preparation of very hard and very soft
materials in one specimen.
=====================================================
Actually Ta **can** be thin sectioned if it is done by someone with the
proper experience and who is using the right kind of diamond knife. We have
offered our SPI #02888-AB sectioned Ta foil on a grid for AEM studies for
some number of years; see URL
http://www.2spi.com/catalog/standards/aem.html

The Ta system that prompted the original posting was thicker, however, it is
also porous, and if properly infiltrated with resin, and assuming the
porosity is above some point, in principle, at least, there is no reason why
it could not be thin sectioned for TEM. No method is really artifact free,
but some artifacts are more easy to recognize than others. Knife induced
artifacts are anisotripic (e.g. directional) in nature and can be more
easily recognized (as artifacts) than artifacts caused by say, ion milling,
which are isotropic in nature.

When I say "right kind of diamond knife", I am not suggesting that the SPI
diamond knife could do something above and beyond what other diamond knives
could do. What I am saying is that there is a process of selection of the
optimum knife angle, because one might have to be prepared to use a knife
with a fairly low (for materials science work) knife angle, rather than a
more blunt angle, but with the downside is that it will wear out more
quickly. That might make for great business for a diamond knife supplier,
but it does tend to get expensive for the user who is not so experienced
with this kind of sectioning.

Disclaimer: SPI Supplies offers diamond knives, both materials and life
science, and we have done this kind of sectioning, as a service, for
commercial clients for over thirty years.

Chuck

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From: Tom Phillips :      PhillipsT-at-missouri.edu
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:24:18 -0500
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Randy: This has happened a bunch of times to me. It only happens
with osmicated tissues. I have run up the same tisse +/- osmication
and premature polymerization only occurs in the osmicated ones - not
every time or at the same rate. I guess there is something that
doesn't get rinsed out that can trigger it - perhaps more so when the
LRW is aging. I am starting a LRW infiltration with osmicated tissue
using a brand new bottle of LRW and I will let you know what happens.
my tissues were in glass vials so it isn't the plastic tubes. it has
happened at both 4 C and room temp. i have a vague recollection
posting this on the microscopy listserver and not getting much of a
response. maddening problem, isn't it?

} ------------------------------------------------------------.
}
}
} Dear Listers,
}
} While infiltrating a set of specimens (insect abdomens and thoraxes) in LR
} White, something occurred that has so far defied my attempts to figure out.
} I was doing
} side by side microwave and conventional fixations, dehydrations, and
} embeddings. The microwave specimens were dehydrated in acetone, behaved
} normally, and we
} have polymerized blocks. However I dehydrated the conventional set in an
} ethanol series, as we have done many times before in LR White. The first
} infiltration step
} was 2 parts ethanol to one part LR White Medium Grade at room temp, and
} upon going later to change into 1:1, I found that the resin/ETOH mix had
} partially
} polymerized into a spongy, granular mass. Uh-oh, bad resin, I said, along
} with a few other choice words.
}
} After the initial panic, I ended up putting the chunks into pure LR White
} from a newly opened bottle and the partially polymerized resin seemed to go
} back into solution. I
} ran them through a couple more changes of pure resin, then left them on a
} rocker overnight at room temperature. Checking them this morning, I found
} two of the
} samples were fine, and the third had polymerized into a rubbery mass.
} Same bottle of resin, same identically processed samples, same everything.
}
} An additional tube with a sample of the "bad" resin was also happily
} unpolymerized, as was the remainder of the "bad" resin in the bottle, which
} I had left in the fume
} hood overnight at room temperature. The "bad" resin was slightly more
} than a year old and has been refrigerated at 4 C since we got it. The
} second resin is about 10
} months old and has also been constantly refrigerated. Neither had any
} accelerator in them (at least none added by us).
}
} I have my share of problems with LR White, but this one really has us
} puzzled. Could there have been something in the samples that triggered a
} polymerization? Can
} LR White react with some plastics in this way? (We were using a
} relatively new batch of Eppendorf tubes that seem more hydrophobic than our
} previous ones.) Could
} it have been the full moon?
}
} Regards,
} Randy
}
} Randy Tindall
} EM Specialist
} Electron Microscopy Core Facility
} W122 Veterinary Medicine
} University of Missouri
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:40:56 -0500
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Tom,

You might have nailed it. These were osmicated tissues, since they weren't
intended for immuno. Our client prefers LR White for making thick sections
for light microscopy, so these specimens were prepared with osmium and UA
post-fixations. Given the large size and difficult nature of insect parts,
it's very possible that something remained in the tissue despite several
lengthy washes. At least we have back-up specimens!

Thanks for the response. At least it's something to work with.

Randy

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From daemon Fri Jun 8 09:54:22 2001



From: Eric :      biology-at-ucla.edu
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 07:53:10 -0700
Subject: Little Survey...EM Wise

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To the wealth of knowledge on the Microscopy list,



I just wanted to conduct a simple survey for the clinical or diagnostic EM
labs that are around...

Was curious to know how many biopsies are processed in the lab on a yearly
basis..

i.e. Renal Bx., Surgical Bx.

Trying to get an idea to see if we are as they say here overworked..

Here in the lab we do

We do approximately 700 cases a year with 2.5 people working in this lab...

How about you?

Eric A. Rosen
UCLA Medical Center
Electron Microsocpy Facility
Department of Pathology and Lab Medicine



From daemon Fri Jun 8 09:55:14 2001



From: Wiggins, Winston :      Winston.Wiggins-at-carolinashealthcare.org
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:32:22 -0400
Subject: Prticle Size Analysis

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Listers,
Thanks to all who responded to my particle size analysis posting recently.
Reasons, including a heavy workload, would not allow us to accept the
project
at this time. We now have several resources from which to choose. I
appreciate
the time and effort from those who offered constructive answers. From the
one who offered questionable musings... contact me off-line and I'll be more

specific about what can be done with those.
Winston
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From daemon Fri Jun 8 10:07:15 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:03:11 -0400
Subject: Old Microscope Catalogs

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I have in my possession the following:

Leitz, Catalog #52-D20(3/68) "Leitz Fluorescence
Microscopes"
Scopes: SM-M, SM-D, Labolux-D, Ortholux, Lamphouse
#250, Orthomat
Leitz, Catalog #560-D1(11/68) "Leitz Instruments...in Metal,
Plastics, Electronics...."
Scopes: Orthoplan, Metallux, Metallux-ND, Panphot,
Labolux-UB D, MiniLoad, MiniLoad-POL, Linnik, Tolansky, Mirau, Ultropak,
Aristophot, Orthomat, Microtome #1300, MPV
Leitz, Catalog #51.2-D.40(1/66)"Leitz Research Microscopes
Ortholux...."
Scopes: Ortholux, Aristophot, Orthomat,
Accessories: all.
Leitz, Catalog #500-D10(1/74) "Leitz Instruments for the
Clinical Lab"
Scopes: SM-Lux, Dialux, Diavert, Orthomat-W,
Combiphot, Projection, Microtomes, Photometers,
Leitz, Catalog #500-D10(6/77) "Leitz Instruments for the
Laboratory"
Scopes: HM-Lux, Sm-Lux, Dialux, Diavert,
Orthomat-W, Combiphot, Microtomes, Microprojection, Photometers, and
accessories.

I also have a number of old Leitz "Technical Information Bulletins" that
will be listed later.

Hope there is a use.

FCM

Frederick C. Monson, PhD
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging (CASI)
Schmucker II Science Center (Room: SS024(Basement))
South Church Street
West Chester, PA, 19383
MailDrop: Department of Geology/Astronomy
Phone: 610-738-0437
Fax: 610-436-3036
email: fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Please call before visiting.


From daemon Fri Jun 8 10:16:13 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:12:20 -0400
Subject: RE: sectioning tantalum matrix

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I concluded from the original information given that the tantalum matrix the
young lady was speaking about was Cytomatrix (http://www.cytomatrix.com).
The matrix is reportedly a tantalum coated graphite core material that was
first use as a support for bone marrow/bone cell regeneration. That's why I
suggested the glycol methacrylate, though you may still be correct about
it's 'hardness'.

Fred Monson

Frederick C. Monson, PhD
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging (CASI)
Schmucker II Science Center (Room: SS024(Basement))
South Church Street
West Chester, PA, 19383
MailDrop: Department of Geology/Astronomy
Phone: 610-738-0437
Fax: 610-436-3036
email: fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Please call before visiting.


} ----------
} From: Jim at Proscitech
} Reply To: jim-at-proscitech.com
} Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2001 6:25 AM
} To: 'Maria Ericsson'; Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: RE: sectioning tantalum matrix
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} Tantalum is very hard and tough, so I doubt that it will section with
} either
} diamond or tungsten carbide knives. Preparing the material like a
} geological
} section by grinding is a possibility, but not a good one. Chances are that
} the
} grinding material would fill the voids and the tissue would be ground away
}
} first (although ProSciTech and others supply diamond grit embedded in
} plastic
} disks, which are much better in that regard)
} Proper vacuum infiltration with a low viscosity resin, cutting with a
} diamond
} blade, grinding with a diamond disc would be my preparation trial.
} After that either stain the surface and try your luck with a high power
} reflection (metallurgical) microscope, or more likely digest the plastic
} and
} view the specimen in SEM.
} If the tantalum could be fractured open, an ESEM my offer some "insights".
} There is no simple solution to the preparation of very hard and very soft
} materials in one specimen.
} Cheers
} Jim Darley
} Disclaimer: ProSciTech supplies both diamond and TC knives. I advised
} against
} the use of either in this particular case.
} ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS
} PO Box 111, Thuringowa QLD 4817 Australia
} Ph +61 7 4774 0370 Fax:+61 7 4789 2313 service-at-proscitech.com
} Great microscopy catalogue, 500 Links, MSDS, User Notes
} ABN: 99 724 136 560 www.proscitech.com
}
} On Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:54 AM, Maria Ericsson
} [SMTP:maria_ericsson-at-hms.harvard.edu] wrote:
} }
} }
} }
} } I am posting this for a college, Lauri Wyner, in the Pathology Core.
} } I have no idea how to section this stuff...!
} }
} } Thanks!
} } Maria Ericsson
} }
} } My question is:
} } I have a carbon coated porous tantalum matrix approximately 1 cm in
} } circumference and 2 mm thick. This matrix has fixed cells adhered to the
} } surface and throughout. I would like to embed this, make slides and
} stain
} } for H&E to confirm the presences of cells as well as
} immunohistochemistry
} } to characterize them. I am looking for suggestions on how I can section
} } this matrix while maintaining its overall structure. Any information
} would
} } be greatly appreciated.
} }
} }
} }
} } Lauri Wyner
} } DF/HCC Central Pathology Cores Coordinator
} } Harvard Medical School
} } G1-126, Goldenson Building
} } 220 Longwood Avenue
} } Boston, MA 02115
} } Tele: (617) 432-4947
} } Fas: (617) 432-6474
} } Lauri_wyner-at-hms.harvard.edu
} }
} }
}
}
}


From daemon Fri Jun 8 10:28:00 2001



From: Linda Durbin :      Linda.Durbin-at-exaktusa.com
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:12:20 -0500
Subject: sectioning tantalum matrix

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I agree with David, there are several ways to cut and grind samples with
multiple materials of varying hardnesses. The EXAKT Cutting/Grinding
Systems were developed just for this purpose. One of the major issues in
cutting or grinding these types of materials is the force required to cut
the hard material vs. the force required to cut the softer material. Like
the diamond wire saw a diamond embedded band system designed to section with
a minimum of force can also achieve excellent results. The reduced force
technology (reduction of the active cutting or grinding surface) is not new
but has new applications in material research. And the technology can be
applied to the grinding process as well to achieve flat surfaces at material
interfaces.

Many of these techniques have been developed for LM in the biomaterials
industry where the materials can vary from cobalt chrome implanted in bone
or bone cement to memory metal stents implanted in soft arteries. The
technology works equally well for rubber bonded to metal or solders layered
on ceramics or carbon fibers embedded in unpolymerized resin. One of the
key features of reducing the force and changing the cutting or grinding
direction is also to prevent smearing of one material over an interface.
Biomaterials researchers have been the driving force in developing this
technology for the past 15 years and for LM it is a viable alternative to
standard metallographic preparations.

Disclaimer: EXAKT Technologies, Inc. is the North American Distributor for
EXAKT Apparatebau the manufacturer of various cutting devices and grinders
for multiple material applications.

Linda Durbin

-----Original Message-----
} From: David Henriks [mailto:henriks-at-southbaytech.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 7:48 PM
To: Microscopy Listerver


Following up on Jim's comments about using mechanical cutting and
grinding
techniques, I have some insight that may help. Jim mentioned that
"There is no
simple solution to the preparation of very hard and very soft materials
in one
specimen". This is true to some degree, but there are solutions. For
example,
the use of a wire saw is actually ideal for cutting through materials
containing
both hard and soft phases. The wire saw can be used either with an
abrasive
slurry or with a diamond impregnated wire. Use with an abrasive slurry
is ideal
for cutting materials of various hardness without damage or the smearing
effect
that you would see with a diamond wheel saw.

To be honest, I have no idea if this saw would do what you want it to do
in this
application, however if the difficulty is the hard/soft combination, the
wire saw
is one potentially viable solution. Also, I'm not sure if you need to
embed the
sample, but I would suggest forgoing tat step, if possible, if oyu are
going to
try the wire saw technique.

DISCLAIMER: South Bay Technology pioneered the development of the wire
saw in the
early 60s and continues to produce wire saws for many applications
today.

I hope this helps.

David

Jim at Proscitech wrote:

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} Tantalum is very hard and tough, so I doubt that it will section with
either
} diamond or tungsten carbide knives. Preparing the material like a
geological
} section by grinding is a possibility, but not a good one. Chances are
that the
} grinding material would fill the voids and the tissue would be ground
away
} first (although ProSciTech and others supply diamond grit embedded in
plastic
} disks, which are much better in that regard)
} Proper vacuum infiltration with a low viscosity resin, cutting with a
diamond
} blade, grinding with a diamond disc would be my preparation trial.
} After that either stain the surface and try your luck with a high
power
} reflection (metallurgical) microscope, or more likely digest the
plastic and
} view the specimen in SEM.
} If the tantalum could be fractured open, an ESEM my offer some
"insights".
} There is no simple solution to the preparation of very hard and very
soft
} materials in one specimen.
} Cheers
} Jim Darley
} Disclaimer: ProSciTech supplies both diamond and TC knives. I advised
against
} the use of either in this particular case.
} ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS
} PO Box 111, Thuringowa QLD 4817 Australia
} Ph +61 7 4774 0370 Fax:+61 7 4789 2313 service-at-proscitech.com
} Great microscopy catalogue, 500 Links, MSDS, User Notes
} ABN: 99 724 136 560 www.proscitech.com
}
} On Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:54 AM, Maria Ericsson
} [SMTP:maria_ericsson-at-hms.harvard.edu] wrote:
} }
} }
} }
} } I am posting this for a college, Lauri Wyner, in the Pathology Core.

} } I have no idea how to section this stuff...!
} }
} } Thanks!
} } Maria Ericsson
} }
} } My question is:
} } I have a carbon coated porous tantalum matrix approximately 1 cm in
} } circumference and 2 mm thick. This matrix has fixed cells adhered to
the
} } surface and throughout. I would like to embed this, make slides and
stain
} } for H&E to confirm the presences of cells as well as
immunohistochemistry
} } to characterize them. I am looking for suggestions on how I can
section
} } this matrix while maintaining its overall structure. Any information
would
} } be greatly appreciated.
} }
} }
} }
} } Lauri Wyner
} } DF/HCC Central Pathology Cores Coordinator
} } Harvard Medical School
} } G1-126, Goldenson Building
} } 220 Longwood Avenue
} } Boston, MA 02115
} } Tele: (617) 432-4947
} } Fas: (617) 432-6474
} } Lauri_wyner-at-hms.harvard.edu
} }
} }

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From daemon Fri Jun 8 11:20:19 2001



From: Robert Underwood :      underwoo-at-u.washington.edu
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:12:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Quantifying actin orientation

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Dear fellow microscopists,

I have have a task of quantifying the actin distribution in cultured
endothelial cells and subsequently comparing different culture conditions.
So far I have managed to isolate the filaments and threshold them. Now...I
wonder what is the best way to put a number on the distribution within
each cell. One possibility I was tinking of, is using a sobel operator to
give the direction of the lines representing the filaments and then
display the data as histograms of filament orientations.

Has anyone done this or know of a good wayto go about this type of
analysis?

Bob
University of Washington
Seattle



From daemon Fri Jun 8 11:21:01 2001



From: Michael L. Boucher :      mboucher-at-tc.umn.edu
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 11:20:25 -0500
Subject: Question about sputter coating using Pt target

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We have been using an older Balzer's sputter coater to coat SEM samples with
Pt. Lately the grain structure of the Pt coating has become much more
obvious (at around 100,000x.) Any experts have a thought on why this is
occurring and how to improve the process?
Thanks for any guidelines and help.
Regards,
Mike
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From daemon Fri Jun 8 11:59:40 2001



From: Alan J. Kruger :      kruger-at-email.marc.usda.gov
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 12:05:24 -0500
Subject: LM: Formula for calculating dept of focus

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Can anyone lead me to a reference or the formula to calculate dept of
focus on light microscopes?

Al Kruger
USDA Meat Animal Research Center



From daemon Fri Jun 8 11:59:41 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:55:14 -0400
Subject: RE: EM COSTING

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I did some looking into costs/hr and finally came to the conclusion that if
I made an assumption that well funded institutions with shared facilities
had set prices for instrument use, it probably reflected what the market -
i.e. the granting agencies - would bear. What I discovered was prices that
varied but stayed in the range of $25 to $35. $29 seemed to be popular,
though I wondered why not the infinitely more popular prince of $29.95.

Fred Monson

Frederick C. Monson, PhD
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging (CASI)
Schmucker II Science Center (Room: SS024(Basement))
South Church Street
West Chester, PA, 19383
MailDrop: Department of Geology/Astronomy
Phone: 610-738-0437
Fax: 610-436-3036
email: fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Please call before visiting.


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} we are in the process of cost our EM service, that is a cost breakdown
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} doing EM. i know the actual costs are very small. i was wondering if
} anyone
} has done it recently. we are a diagnostic lab.
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From daemon Fri Jun 8 12:17:04 2001



From: Ronald Vane :      RVaneXEI-at-concentric.net
Date: Friday, June 08, 2001 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: rubber stopper

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A little more insight on Xray absorption of materials: Twenty years ago when
I was doing EDS XRF, I did a lot of work on Xray filters on the primary
Xray beam from Xray tubes. I designed both edge filters (the absorption
edges of each element can be used to strongly remove X-rays above certain
energies} and "white" filters to remove all Xrays below certain energies. My
white filters were usually layers of filter paper (no Ti pigment). My
experience was that at below 30KV on the Xray tube almost nothing would get
through 1/2
inch of organic materials. Above 30 KeV we had worry about X-ray leakage.
The Xrays tubes (and Electron microscopes) give off both primary lines and
bremsstrahlung xrays. The Bremsstrahlung peak intensity energy in KeV by
rule of thumb is about 2/3 the energy of the electron beam. You may observe
in your SEM by EDS the X-ray energy spectrum. It is that background
spectrum. Since I had a spectrometer I could ready see what energies passed
or started leaking through my filters. You too can do the Xray absorption
spectrum test inside your chamber by placing the stopper or other material
in front of your EDS detector window and see what comes through. The EDS
detector is much more sensitive than a Geiger counter or film.

Therefore, if the SEM is used below 30 kV, then a thick rubber stopper will
absorb the X-rays. Still worried? Stick a radiation badge on the outside of
the stopper to check.

Ronald Vane
XEI Scientific



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From daemon Fri Jun 8 13:19:33 2001



From: Geoff McAuliffe :      mcauliff-at-umdnj.edu
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 08:42:53 -0400
Subject: Re: TEM - effects of osmolarity

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}
} Does anyone have a reference for or some transmission electron micrographs
} that illustrate the effects of osmolarity of buffers on animal cells? I
} would like to show students on tour of our facility shrinkage and swelling
} of cells and organelles. I have other wonderful artifacts to show,
} including one of my first sections with chatter so bad it looks like
} mini-blinds...
}
} Mahalo!
} Tina

Arborgh et al. J. Ultrastruc. Res. 56:339-350, 1976. A classic study.

}
}
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From daemon Fri Jun 8 14:58:33 2001



From: sghoshro-at-NMSU.Edu
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 13:52:25 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: RE: TEM: LR White weirdness

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Randy,

You can try JB-4 embedding media instead of LR White. It works pretty well
for thick sectioning and maitains excellent structure preservation.


Soumitra


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On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Tindall, Randy D. wrote:

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} Tom,
}
} You might have nailed it. These were osmicated tissues, since they weren't
} intended for immuno. Our client prefers LR White for making thick sections
} for light microscopy, so these specimens were prepared with osmium and UA
} post-fixations. Given the large size and difficult nature of insect parts,
} it's very possible that something remained in the tissue despite several
} lengthy washes. At least we have back-up specimens!
}
} Thanks for the response. At least it's something to work with.
}
} Randy
}
} -----Original Message-----
} } From: Tom Phillips [mailto:PhillipsT-at-missouri.edu]
} Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 9:24 AM
} To: Tindall, Randy D.
} Cc: Microscopy-at-msa.microscopy.com
} Subject: Re: TEM: LR White weirdness
}
}
} Randy: This has happened a bunch of times to me. It only happens
} with osmicated tissues. I have run up the same tisse +/- osmication
} and premature polymerization only occurs in the osmicated ones - not
} every time or at the same rate. I guess there is something that
} doesn't get rinsed out that can trigger it - perhaps more so when the
} LRW is aging. I am starting a LRW infiltration with osmicated tissue
} using a brand new bottle of LRW and I will let you know what happens.
} my tissues were in glass vials so it isn't the plastic tubes. it has
} happened at both 4 C and room temp. i have a vague recollection
} posting this on the microscopy listserver and not getting much of a
} response. maddening problem, isn't it?
}
} } ------------------------------------------------------------.
} }
} }
} } Dear Listers,
} }
} } While infiltrating a set of specimens (insect abdomens and thoraxes) in
} LR
} } White, something occurred that has so far defied my attempts to figure out.
} } I was doing
} } side by side microwave and conventional fixations, dehydrations, and
} } embeddings. The microwave specimens were dehydrated in acetone, behaved
} } normally, and we
} } have polymerized blocks. However I dehydrated the conventional set in
} an
} } ethanol series, as we have done many times before in LR White. The first
} } infiltration step
} } was 2 parts ethanol to one part LR White Medium Grade at room temp, and
} } upon going later to change into 1:1, I found that the resin/ETOH mix had
} } partially
} } polymerized into a spongy, granular mass. Uh-oh, bad resin, I said,
} along
} } with a few other choice words.
} }
} } After the initial panic, I ended up putting the chunks into pure LR
} White
} } from a newly opened bottle and the partially polymerized resin seemed to go
} } back into solution. I
} } ran them through a couple more changes of pure resin, then left them on
} a
} } rocker overnight at room temperature. Checking them this morning, I found
} } two of the
} } samples were fine, and the third had polymerized into a rubbery mass.
} } Same bottle of resin, same identically processed samples, same everything.
} }
} } An additional tube with a sample of the "bad" resin was also happily
} } unpolymerized, as was the remainder of the "bad" resin in the bottle, which
} } I had left in the fume
} } hood overnight at room temperature. The "bad" resin was slightly more
} } than a year old and has been refrigerated at 4 C since we got it. The
} } second resin is about 10
} } months old and has also been constantly refrigerated. Neither had any
} } accelerator in them (at least none added by us).
} }
} } I have my share of problems with LR White, but this one really has us
} } puzzled. Could there have been something in the samples that triggered a
} } polymerization? Can
} } LR White react with some plastics in this way? (We were using a
} } relatively new batch of Eppendorf tubes that seem more hydrophobic than our
} } previous ones.) Could
} } it have been the full moon?
} }
} } Regards,
} } Randy
} }
} } Randy Tindall
} } EM Specialist
} } Electron Microscopy Core Facility
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} } University of Missouri
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} } (573) 882-8304
} } (573) 884-5414 (fax)
} } email: tindallr-at-missouri.edu
} } http://biotech.missouri.edu/emc
} }
}
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} Director, Molecular Cytology Core Facility
}
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From: Michael Nesson :      nessonm-at-ucs.orst.edu
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 16:22:49 -0700
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I am in need of a reference EELS spectum of ZnO (or probably any other
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I'm attempting to distinguish between Zn metal, for which I have a
reference EELS spectrum, and Zn[+2}.

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From: Allen R. Sampson :      ars-at-sem.com
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 04:40:42 -0500
Subject: RE: rubber stopper

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Ken,

You are right in the comparison of SEMs and TEMs. The accelerating
voltages typically used in TEMs creates a much greater concern as do the
glass viewing ports directly open to the electron beam - sample
interactions. In fact, the majority of problems in TEMs have been
inadequate lead content of the glass in those ports. SEMs are inherently
safe from external emissions in that their design results in a generous
metallic shielding surrounding all portions that can generate x-rays.

However, even in SEMs, there can be exceptions. Remember the small
aluminum plug in the columns of ETEC SEMs, the one opposite where the scan
coil cables enter? If that plug is not in place, then there is a potential
for external radiation. While the designs may be inherently safe, there is
still room for error.

Many states require a regular scan for external radiation on any x-ray
generating equipment. While I have heard of quite a few measurable
responses on TEMs (including one just two days ago at a DOE site), I have
never heard of any detectable radiation from an SEM.

Regarding computer monitors, don't worry. While early TV sets did produce
considerable x-rays externally, modern TVs and computer monitors really
don't. Unless you plan on spending 24 hours a day hugging the back side of
a monitor, I wouldn't worry.

Finally, regarding the temporary use of a rubber stopper - It shouldn't
pose a problem. Most of the ports on an SEM, and particularly those for
EDS systems, are on the rear of the chamber. SEMs, given their usual
operating conditions and limitations, are not prodigious x-ray producers.
Most would be absorbed by the thickness of a stopper capable of
withstanding the vacuum pressures, and what little could escape would be
directed away from anyone using the instrument. Since any resulting
radiation would be attenuated by the square of the distance from the source
(in this case the x-rays penetrating the stopper) there would normally be
no detectable exposure except, perhaps, at the surface of the stopper.

I do have a problem with permanent plastic viewports, however. These are
generally placed on the sides of the sample chamber where a more direct
path to the operator is possible. Whenever I find a customer with a
plastic viewport, I always strongly suggest that they keep a suitable cover
over it when they aren't being used to view the sample presentation.
Surprisingly thin ports can be made of materials like polycarbonate that
are capable of withstanding atmospheric pressures.

The real questions should be, if this is a situation that may occur from
time to time, should a proper port cover be fabricated and kept on hand so
that there are no such questions, now or in the future?

On Friday, June 08, 2001 9:16 AM, Ken Converse
[SMTP:qualityimages-at-netrax.net] wrote:
}
} Pehaps someone could provide a better analysis, but I have a couple of
} anecdotes:
}
} I had a Canadian customer (20+ years ago) who specialized in very long
} EDS x-ray sweeps in either dot map form or a combined YZ modulated
} form. As I recall, some of these scans were up to 16 hours long. He
} had a Plexiglass port cover so that he could easily see his chamber
} geometry. This had a metal cover that was velvet lined for light
} leakage. Once he put his radiation badge inside the metal cover for a
} month, then turned it in. There apparently was nothing out of the
} ordinary, as his rad peo;le never said "boo". Perhaps it's a commentary
} on the rad people, but a full month exposure?
}
} Second, I had another customer get me some rad figures on an SEM gun
} operating at 30kV and 150uA (1.5x10E-4). The bottom line was that the
} x-ray output from the gun was very serious, but all the guns are
} enclosed in steel. No problem. At the specimen for EDS work we're
} usually talking about 200-600pA (2-6x10E-10), or roughly 6 orders of
} magnitude less current and the stopper is going to absorb some of the
} x-rays generated. Is this really a problem?
}
} I'm not talking about TEMs, as they can be very dangerous. The current
} at the screen is much higher, the excitation voltage is much higher and
} there is this large expanse of glass that MUST be leaded. Perhaps the
} currents used for WDS would also present a problem (10-100 nA or 10E-8
} to 10E-7) at 2 to 3 orders of magnitude more than EDS.
}
} Don't forget, those nice color displays on the four computers
} surrounding you in your lab also generate x-rays and their beam currents
} are in the mA range (10E-3) and an accelerating voltage of about 25kV.
} There may be a decelerating grid and leaded glass on the front, but I
} think you will find the the shielding on the rear of the monitor is not
} so rigorous, Your dentist's x-rays are about 70kV and only one order of
} magnitude greater current.
}
} I'd love some feed-back from someone who knows radiation because I've
} felt that applying TEM rules to SEMs is gross over-kill, especially with
} so many color monitors around. How often do you have your decelerating
} grid checked for proper operation? If it doesn't operate correctly,
} your exposure could be very dangerous, given the time that one sits in
} front of these things and their distance from your face.
}
} If I'm way off base, I'd like to know and know why.
}
} Ken Converse
} owner
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} } } Just out of curiousity. . . how much X-radiation penetrates the rubber
} } } stopper?
} } }
} } } Marie
} } }
} }
} } Doesn't anybody supply X-ray proof rubber bungs for microscope ports?
} }
} } No worries. Just wrap a few sheets of lead foil around the column and
} } make sure pregnant operators stay below 5kV ;-(
} }
} } Surely something somewhat less desperate could be cobbled together out
} } of metal without too much extra work?
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From daemon Sat Jun 9 11:28:56 2001



From: Caroline Schooley :      schooley-at-mcn.org
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 08:32:10 -0700
Subject: Re: Old Microscope Catalogs

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} I have in my possession the following [Old Microscope Catalogs]:
} I also have a number of old Leitz "Technical Information Bulletins" that
} will be listed later.
} Hope there is a use.
}
Fred -

If you don't get takers for all of these, there's a microscopy book dealer
in England who can probably find them a home:
http://www.savonabooks.free-online.co.uk It would be a pity to just trash
them...

Caroline


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From: z9bK6i232-at-bizonly.now
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 18:44:36 -0500
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I know someone makeing a CDROM of Leitz information that is not copyrighted.
It is going to be a very reasonably priced commerical project.

I would post his name but I am in the middle of changeing computers and I
don't have his email address at hand.

Gordon Couger

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From: IAN HALLETT :      ihallett-at-hortresearch.co.nz
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:35:07 +1200
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Randy and others:

Unwanted polymerisation of LR White resin during infiltration is an
occasional problem with the resin. I have never experienced it with
fresh batches, indeed the only times I have had this problem was
with batches over 1 year old (the recommended use by time). An
possible explanation was suggested to me by Roy Gillett of
London Resin a number of years ago:

Quote
"The reason this pre-polymerisation occurs only with tissue must be
something to do with a tissue constituent catalysing
polymerisation. Older resin is much more susceptibe to this that
fresh monomer becaue of the significant polymer growth that will
inevitably have occurred in the monomer. The most likely
'endogenousd catalyst' from previous experience is likely to be an
amine or peroxide moiety in the tissue"

We have used LR White resin extensively for a long time - perhaps
the reason we don't have a problem is that our resin never gets
anything like a year old before we use it/

Best Wishes

Ian

}
} Dear Listers,
}
} While infiltrating a set of specimens (insect abdomens and thoraxes) in LR
} White, something occurred that has so far defied my attempts to figure out.
} I was doing
} side by side microwave and conventional fixations, dehydrations, and
} embeddings. The microwave specimens were dehydrated in acetone, behaved
} normally, and we
} have polymerized blocks. However I dehydrated the conventional set in an
} ethanol series, as we have done many times before in LR White. The first
} infiltration step
} was 2 parts ethanol to one part LR White Medium Grade at room temp, and
} upon going later to change into 1:1, I found that the resin/ETOH mix had
} partially
} polymerized into a spongy, granular mass. Uh-oh, bad resin, I said, along
} with a few other choice words.
}
} After the initial panic, I ended up putting the chunks into pure LR White
} from a newly opened bottle and the partially polymerized resin seemed to go
} back into solution. I
} ran them through a couple more changes of pure resin, then left them on a
} rocker overnight at room temperature. Checking them this morning, I found
} two of the
} samples were fine, and the third had polymerized into a rubbery mass.
} Same bottle of resin, same identically processed samples, same everything.
}
} An additional tube with a sample of the "bad" resin was also happily
} unpolymerized, as was the remainder of the "bad" resin in the bottle, which
} I had left in the fume
} hood overnight at room temperature. The "bad" resin was slightly more
} than a year old and has been refrigerated at 4 C since we got it. The
} second resin is about 10
} months old and has also been constantly refrigerated. Neither had any
} accelerator in them (at least none added by us).
}
} I have my share of problems with LR White, but this one really has us
} puzzled. Could there have been something in the samples that triggered a
} polymerization? Can
} LR White react with some plastics in this way? (We were using a
} relatively new batch of Eppendorf tubes that seem more hydrophobic than our
} previous ones.) Could
} it have been the full moon?
}
} Regards,
} Randy
}
} Randy Tindall
} EM Specialist
} Electron Microscopy Core Facility
} W122 Veterinary Medicine
} University of Missouri
} Columbia, MO 65211
} (573) 882-8304
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} email: tindallr-at-missouri.edu
} http://biotech.missouri.edu/emc
}
}



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From daemon Mon Jun 11 08:25:18 2001



From: Robby Roberson :      robby2-at-asu.edu
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:14:39 -0700
Subject: measurments at LM and TEM levels

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Hello all,

I have a question about measuring small cellular structures at the light
microscope level using Argus 10 enhancement and measurement software.

I am measuring vesicle diameters in living cells of the fungus Neurospora.
They measure about 350-400 nm in diameter using the Argus 10 software.
With cryofixed TEMs of the same cell type, the only vesicles with the same
distribution as at the LM level measure 150 nm diameter and there are no
structures at 350-400 nm.

All my calibrations of both the LM and TEM have been checked and
double-checked.

It is my understanding that video-enhanced LM can amplify signal (or sizes)
so that structures below limit of LM resolution can be detected (eg,
imaging of individual microtubules with DIC/VELM). I am wondering if this
is the source of this discrepancy that it see and if there are references
that describe this.

Thanks so much,,,,,,
Robby Roberson


***************************************
Robert W. Roberson, PhD
Department of Plant Biology
Molecular and Cellular Biology Program
Arizona State University
Tempe, AZ 85282
Office/Lab 480-965-8618


From daemon Mon Jun 11 09:26:28 2001



From: Leona Cohen-Gould :      lcgould-at-med.cornell.edu
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:15:19 -0400
Subject: Re: Little Survey...EM Wise

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From: William McManus :      billemac-at-biology.usu.edu
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:28:39 -0600
Subject: Re: TEM: LR White weirdness

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We have notice a strange effect of colored Microcentrifuge tubes. The
colored tubes will cause hardening of the LR White at room temperature.
Something in the coloring dyein the tubes must be acting as a catalyst.

William McManus
Supervisor
Electron Microscopy Facility
Department of Biology
Utah State University
Logan UT 84322-5305

billEMac-at-cc.usu.edu
435-797-1920

-----Original Message-----
} From: IAN HALLETT [mailto:ihallett-at-hortresearch.co.nz]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 3:35 PM
To: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


Randy and others:

Unwanted polymerisation of LR White resin during infiltration is an
occasional problem with the resin. I have never experienced it with
fresh batches, indeed the only times I have had this problem was
with batches over 1 year old (the recommended use by time). An
possible explanation was suggested to me by Roy Gillett of
London Resin a number of years ago:

Quote
"The reason this pre-polymerisation occurs only with tissue must be
something to do with a tissue constituent catalysing
polymerisation. Older resin is much more susceptibe to this that
fresh monomer becaue of the significant polymer growth that will
inevitably have occurred in the monomer. The most likely
'endogenousd catalyst' from previous experience is likely to be an
amine or peroxide moiety in the tissue"

We have used LR White resin extensively for a long time - perhaps
the reason we don't have a problem is that our resin never gets
anything like a year old before we use it/

Best Wishes

Ian

}
} Dear Listers,
}
} While infiltrating a set of specimens (insect abdomens and thoraxes) in
LR
} White, something occurred that has so far defied my attempts to figure
out.
} I was doing
} side by side microwave and conventional fixations, dehydrations, and
} embeddings. The microwave specimens were dehydrated in acetone, behaved
} normally, and we
} have polymerized blocks. However I dehydrated the conventional set in
an
} ethanol series, as we have done many times before in LR White. The first
} infiltration step
} was 2 parts ethanol to one part LR White Medium Grade at room temp, and
} upon going later to change into 1:1, I found that the resin/ETOH mix had
} partially
} polymerized into a spongy, granular mass. Uh-oh, bad resin, I said,
along
} with a few other choice words.
}
} After the initial panic, I ended up putting the chunks into pure LR
White
} from a newly opened bottle and the partially polymerized resin seemed to
go
} back into solution. I
} ran them through a couple more changes of pure resin, then left them on
a
} rocker overnight at room temperature. Checking them this morning, I found
} two of the
} samples were fine, and the third had polymerized into a rubbery mass.
} Same bottle of resin, same identically processed samples, same everything.
}
} An additional tube with a sample of the "bad" resin was also happily
} unpolymerized, as was the remainder of the "bad" resin in the bottle,
which
} I had left in the fume
} hood overnight at room temperature. The "bad" resin was slightly more
} than a year old and has been refrigerated at 4 C since we got it. The
} second resin is about 10
} months old and has also been constantly refrigerated. Neither had any
} accelerator in them (at least none added by us).
}
} I have my share of problems with LR White, but this one really has us
} puzzled. Could there have been something in the samples that triggered a
} polymerization? Can
} LR White react with some plastics in this way? (We were using a
} relatively new batch of Eppendorf tubes that seem more hydrophobic than
our
} previous ones.) Could
} it have been the full moon?
}
} Regards,
} Randy
}
} Randy Tindall
} EM Specialist
} Electron Microscopy Core Facility
} W122 Veterinary Medicine
} University of Missouri
} Columbia, MO 65211
} (573) 882-8304
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}
}



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From daemon Mon Jun 11 09:48:40 2001



From: Alan Bright :      bright-at-dial.pipex.com
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:38:00 +0100
Subject: Sectioning Ta

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I would like to be of some assistance on the subject of a solution
to:-'There is no simple solution to the preparation of very hard and very
soft materials in one specimen.'

As our Bright/Hacker OTF/AS/D/LT cryostat is able to section a hard and soft
specimen incorporated into one specimen. If this is of interest I would be
pleased to receive sample and return our results to those who have a
problem.

Best Regards

Alan Bright

Bright Instrument Co.Ltd.
St Margaret's Way
Huntingdon
Cambridgeshire
PE29 6EU
England

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Sent: 07 June 2001 23:26
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Jim Darley wrote:

====================================================
Tantalum is very hard and tough, so I doubt that it will section with either

diamond or tungsten carbide knives. Preparing the material like a geological

section by grinding is a possibility, but not a good one. Chances are that
the
grinding material would fill the voids and the tissue would be ground away
first (although ProSciTech and others supply diamond grit embedded in
plastic
disks, which are much better in that regard)
Proper vacuum infiltration with a low viscosity resin, cutting with a
diamond
blade, grinding with a diamond disc would be my preparation trial.
After that either stain the surface and try your luck with a high power
reflection (metallurgical) microscope, or more likely digest the plastic and

view the specimen in SEM.
If the tantalum could be fractured open, an ESEM my offer some "insights".
There is no simple solution to the preparation of very hard and very soft
materials in one specimen.
=====================================================
Actually Ta **can** be thin sectioned if it is done by someone with the
proper experience and who is using the right kind of diamond knife. We have
offered our SPI #02888-AB sectioned Ta foil on a grid for AEM studies for
some number of years; see URL
http://www.2spi.com/catalog/standards/aem.html

The Ta system that prompted the original posting was thicker, however, it is
also porous, and if properly infiltrated with resin, and assuming the
porosity is above some point, in principle, at least, there is no reason why
it could not be thin sectioned for TEM. No method is really artifact free,
but some artifacts are more easy to recognize than others. Knife induced
artifacts are anisotripic (e.g. directional) in nature and can be more
easily recognized (as artifacts) than artifacts caused by say, ion milling,
which are isotropic in nature.

When I say "right kind of diamond knife", I am not suggesting that the SPI
diamond knife could do something above and beyond what other diamond knives
could do. What I am saying is that there is a process of selection of the
optimum knife angle, because one might have to be prepared to use a knife
with a fairly low (for materials science work) knife angle, rather than a
more blunt angle, but with the downside is that it will wear out more
quickly. That might make for great business for a diamond knife supplier,
but it does tend to get expensive for the user who is not so experienced
with this kind of sectioning.

Disclaimer: SPI Supplies offers diamond knives, both materials and life
science, and we have done this kind of sectioning, as a service, for
commercial clients for over thirty years.

Chuck

PS: Please remember that we are nearly 100% paperless and we would ask that
any reply to this message be by way of the "reply" feature on your software,
so that the entire string of correspondence can come back to us and all be
in one place.

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From daemon Mon Jun 11 10:56:48 2001



From: Tobias Baskin :      BaskinT-at-missouri.edu
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:48:32 -0500
Subject: Re: measurments at LM and TEM levels

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Hi,
The optics of forming an image is constrained by diffraction
so that when the light comes together in a point it actually has a
finite breadth. This is given by the numerical aperture of your
objective and condenser (and the wavelength of light) and has a
theoretical min of around 250 nm for green light. If you are using a
high NA lens (say 1.3) and an equally good condenser, which must be
oiled to the slide to get its full resolution, then you should be
able to reach this limit. To the extent that your lenses are not that
high NA, the limit will be larger. Vesicles smaller than the limit
may be imaged (indeed, single microtubules can be imaged) but the
diameter will read out on the image as being whatever your
diffraction limit is. You can find a good discussion of this in
Inoué's book on Video Microscopy, to name just one source.

As ever,
Tobias

}
} Hello all,
}
} I have a question about measuring small cellular structures at the light
} microscope level using Argus 10 enhancement and measurement software.
}
} I am measuring vesicle diameters in living cells of the fungus Neurospora.
} They measure about 350-400 nm in diameter using the Argus 10 software.
} With cryofixed TEMs of the same cell type, the only vesicles with the same
} distribution as at the LM level measure 150 nm diameter and there are no
} structures at 350-400 nm.
}
} All my calibrations of both the LM and TEM have been checked and
} double-checked.
}
} It is my understanding that video-enhanced LM can amplify signal (or sizes)
} so that structures below limit of LM resolution can be detected (eg,
} imaging of individual microtubules with DIC/VELM). I am wondering if this
} is the source of this discrepancy that it see and if there are references
} that describe this.
}
} Thanks so much,,,,,,
} Robby Roberson
}
}
} ***************************************
} Robert W. Roberson, PhD
} Department of Plant Biology
} Molecular and Cellular Biology Program
} Arizona State University
} Tempe, AZ 85282
} Office/Lab 480-965-8618

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From daemon Mon Jun 11 11:15:16 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:09:07 -0400
Subject: RE: Formula for calculating dept of focus

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Somebody else already answered the question.

See the fancy URL at "Matter" in the UK.

http://www.matter.org.uk/tem/depth_of_field.htm

Regards, Fred Monson

Frederick C. Monson, PhD
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging (CASI)
Schmucker II Science Center (Room: SS024(Basement))
South Church Street
West Chester, PA, 19383
MailDrop: Department of Geology/Astronomy
Phone: 610-738-0437
Fax: 610-436-3036
email: fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Please call before visiting.


} ----------
} From: Alan J. Kruger
} Sent: Friday, June 8, 2001 1:05 PM
} To: Microscopy
} Subject: LM: Formula for calculating dept of focus
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} Can anyone lead me to a reference or the formula to calculate dept of
} focus on light microscopes?
}
} Al Kruger
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}
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From daemon Mon Jun 11 14:59:34 2001



From: Wil Bigelow :      bigelow-at-engin.umich.edu
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:55:39 -0400
Subject: Source of used equipment

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A few days ago someone asked about sources for used and renovated
microscopy equipment. Just today I received a leaflet from
Microscopy Laboratories, (P.O. Box 338, Red Bank, NJ 07701,
email:micro-at-mail.superlink.net; Tel: 732-747-6228) that lists a wide
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From daemon Mon Jun 11 18:46:34 2001



From: Richard Easingwood :      richard.easingwood-at-stonebow.otago.ac.nz
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:45:05 +1200
Subject: SEM of psoriasis anyone?

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Dear All,
I have been contacted by someone wishing urgently to obtain an image of
skin with psoriasis for a science exhibition aimed at children. They
specified an SEM image but possibly TEM or LM would do. We have nothing
along these lines in our lab - is anyone out there in the wide world of
microscopy able and willing to provide such an image?

Best regards,


Richard

Richard Easingwood
South Campus Electron Microscope Unit
School of Medical Sciences, University of Otago
PO Box 913, Dunedin
NEW ZEALAND

Telephone: office: 0064 3 479 7301, mobile: 0064 21 222 4759
Facsimile: 0064 3 479 7254
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From daemon Mon Jun 11 21:10:14 2001



From: Stephen Edgar :      s.edgar-at-auckland.ac.nz
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:03:27 +1300 NZDT
Subject: Re: LM: Formula for calculating dept of focus

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On 8 Jun 01, at 12:05, Alan J. Kruger wrote:

} Can anyone lead me to a reference or the formula to calculate dept of
} focus on light microscopes?

Al,

"Photomicrography. A comprehensive treatise" by Roger P. Loveland
John Wiley & Sons, 1970, contains an appendix on calculating
depth of field. For compound microscopes Loveland gives several
formulae, which produce similar but not identical results in his
worked examples.

I can fax it to you if you can't find a copy locally.

Regards

Stephen Edgar

Pathology Department
Faculty of Medicine & Health Sciences
University of Auckland
Private Bag 92019
Auckland
New Zealand

email address: s.edgar-at-auckland.ac.nz
Phone : +64-9-3737599 extn 6473 (GMT + 12h)
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From daemon Tue Jun 12 01:20:59 2001



From: Jim at Proscitech :      jim-at-proscitech.com
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:15:28 +1000
Subject: RE: Sectioning Ta

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This thread may never finish.
Fred Monson wrote to me making the point that he thought that the original
request (which I have appended last) related to a carbon sponge coated with Ta.
Fred also had and so he appended an article in pdf format, which deals with
such material. There also is what appears to be an SEM image of a thick section
of this very open material. It seems that it had been sectioned, presumably
with a diamond or TC knife. It does however, not show any cell inclusions,
though the article says that purpose of the matrix is the growths of T-cells.
Plastic infiltrated Ta coated C sponge with cell inclusions "may" section.
The original correspondence referred to a Ta sponge coated with carbon with
cell inclusions and that would be a whole lot more difficult.
The publication is:
Contact: Mark J. Pykett, Cytomatrix, (781) 939-0995, mpykett-at-cytomatrix.com
I think that we could have a delightful time with a hundred protagonist writing
to the unsuspecting "Contact"
Cheers
Jim Darley
ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS
PO Box 111, Thuringowa QLD 4817 Australia
Ph +61 7 4774 0370 Fax:+61 7 4789 2313 service-at-proscitech.com
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On Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:38 AM, Alan Bright [SMTP:bright-at-dial.pipex.com]
wrote:
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} I would like to be of some assistance on the subject of a solution
} to:-'There is no simple solution to the preparation of very hard and very
} soft materials in one specimen.'
}
} As our Bright/Hacker OTF/AS/D/LT cryostat is able to section a hard and soft
} specimen incorporated into one specimen. If this is of interest I would be
} pleased to receive sample and return our results to those who have a
} problem.
}
} Best Regards
}
} Alan Bright
}
} Bright Instrument Co.Ltd.
} St Margaret's Way
} Huntingdon
} Cambridgeshire
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} England
}
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}
} -----Original Message-----
} } From: Garber, Charles A. [mailto:cgarber-at-2spi.com]
} Sent: 07 June 2001 23:26
} To: MICROSCOPY BB
} Subject: Sectioning Ta
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} -- [ From: Garber, Charles A. * EMC.Ver #3.1 ] --
}
} Jim Darley wrote:
}
} ====================================================
} Tantalum is very hard and tough, so I doubt that it will section with either
}
} diamond or tungsten carbide knives. Preparing the material like a geological
}
} section by grinding is a possibility, but not a good one. Chances are that
} the
} grinding material would fill the voids and the tissue would be ground away
} first (although ProSciTech and others supply diamond grit embedded in
} plastic
} disks, which are much better in that regard)
} Proper vacuum infiltration with a low viscosity resin, cutting with a
} diamond
} blade, grinding with a diamond disc would be my preparation trial.
} After that either stain the surface and try your luck with a high power
} reflection (metallurgical) microscope, or more likely digest the plastic and
}
} view the specimen in SEM.
} If the tantalum could be fractured open, an ESEM my offer some "insights".
} There is no simple solution to the preparation of very hard and very soft
} materials in one specimen.
} =====================================================
} Actually Ta **can** be thin sectioned if it is done by someone with the
} proper experience and who is using the right kind of diamond knife. We have
} offered our SPI #02888-AB sectioned Ta foil on a grid for AEM studies for
} some number of years; see URL
} http://www.2spi.com/catalog/standards/aem.html
}
} The Ta system that prompted the original posting was thicker, however, it is
} also porous, and if properly infiltrated with resin, and assuming the
} porosity is above some point, in principle, at least, there is no reason why
} it could not be thin sectioned for TEM. No method is really artifact free,
} but some artifacts are more easy to recognize than others. Knife induced
} artifacts are anisotripic (e.g. directional) in nature and can be more
} easily recognized (as artifacts) than artifacts caused by say, ion milling,
} which are isotropic in nature.
}
} When I say "right kind of diamond knife", I am not suggesting that the SPI
} diamond knife could do something above and beyond what other diamond knives
} could do. What I am saying is that there is a process of selection of the
} optimum knife angle, because one might have to be prepared to use a knife
} with a fairly low (for materials science work) knife angle, rather than a
} more blunt angle, but with the downside is that it will wear out more
} quickly. That might make for great business for a diamond knife supplier,
} but it does tend to get expensive for the user who is not so experienced
} with this kind of sectioning.
}
} Disclaimer: SPI Supplies offers diamond knives, both materials and life
} science, and we have done this kind of sectioning, as a service, for
} commercial clients for over thirty years.
}
} Chuck
}
original request was posted on 6 June 2001

I am posting this for a college, Lauri Wyner, in the Pathology Core.
I have no idea how to section this stuff...!

Thanks!
Maria Ericsson

My question is:
I have a carbon coated porous tantalum matrix approximately 1 cm in
circumference and 2 mm thick. This matrix has fixed cells adhered to the
surface and throughout. I would like to embed this, make slides and stain
for H&E to confirm the presences of cells as well as immunohistochemistry
to characterize them. I am looking for suggestions on how I can section
this matrix while maintaining its overall structure. Any information would
be greatly appreciated.





From daemon Tue Jun 12 04:33:53 2001



From: chkiang-at-physics.ucla.edu (Ching-Hwa Kiang)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 02:26:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Postdoc position available

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AT THE DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICS, UCLA

We are seeking outstanding candidates for postdoctoral
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DNA/gold particles are used to probe the melting and
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Cryoelectron microscopy is used to study the structure
and function of macromolecular assemblies at the
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The compensation package is competitive,
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Interested person should send cv
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From daemon Tue Jun 12 08:49:34 2001



From: Dmrelion-at-aol.com
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:39:39 EDT
Subject: test

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test


From daemon Tue Jun 12 09:54:34 2001



From: Chaoying Ni :      cni-at-udel.edu
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:47:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: How an FEG manufactured?

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Hello lister,

A fellow here in the department has the interest in knowing by which mean
an FEG W-crystal needle is cut. I only know that in the case of Schottky
emitter, the submicron needle is cut in {100} direction and coated with
ZrO2 to reduce the work function. But I have no knowledge in the
manufacturing process of the tip (FIB?). Anybody who knows please shed
some lights. Thanks in advance.

*********************************
Chaoying Ni
Electron Microscopy Laboratory
Materials Science and Engineering
College of Engineering
University of Delaware
Newark, DE 19716
*********************************



From daemon Tue Jun 12 10:24:14 2001



From: Peter Tomic :      PTomic-at-anadigics.com
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:18:19 -0400
Subject: Quantitative Metallurgical analysis of Au/Sn in Microcircuit appl

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Folks;

I have a question as to technique or method regarding the quantification of
Au/Sn in a "solder bump" application for an InP microcircuit. Essentially
what I've been asked to do is provide the weight % of each element after
this "solder" has been melted and re-flowed. The samples are cylindrical in
shape with an x-section of 65 uM and a thickness of 34 uM. The Au/Sn
portion sits atop this structure and is a thickness of ~ 2 uM.

My question is, how can I quantify, in Wt. %, the ratios of the two metals?
I have EDX at my disposal but I am uncertain that I will be able to
accurately quantify this alloy without a standard. One other issue is that
the underlying metallization that primarily constructs this "bump" is also
Au for the next 32 uM.

Any insight into this problem would be greatly appreciated by myself and my
colleagues.

Peter Tomic
Analytical Services Group
Anadigics, Inc.
35 Technology Drive
Warren, New Jersey
U.S.A. 07090



From daemon Tue Jun 12 13:57:07 2001



From: Stanley L. Flegler :      flegler-at-pilot.msu.edu
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:49:11 -0400
Subject: Philips CM-10 available

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An excellent Philips CM-10 transmission electron microscope is being
offered for sale by Michigan State University. It is 1987 vintage and has
been on service contract since new. We can demo this instrument at any
time. Please contact Dr. Xudong Fan with questions, fanx-at-msu.edu,
517-353-4525.

Stanley L. Flegler, Acting Director
Center for Advanced Microscopy



From daemon Tue Jun 12 15:40:22 2001



From: Ken Converse :      qualityimages-at-netrax.net
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:38:50 -0400
Subject: Re: How an FEG manufactured?

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Chaoying Ni ,
I don't know about the current crop of FE cathodes, but in the past an
electrolytic cell was set up with the W needle as part of the circuit.
The needle was slowly dipped and removed several times from the NaOH
electrolyte. Essentially, it was the same technique as was (and is)
used to produce micomanipulator needles. I think the set-up was shown
and described well in a Microscopy Today article within the past 12 months.

Ken Converse
owner
Quality Images Delta, PA

Chaoying Ni wrote:

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}
} A fellow here in the department has the interest in knowing by which mean
} an FEG W-crystal needle is cut. I only know that in the case of Schottky
} emitter, the submicron needle is cut in {100} direction and coated with
} ZrO2 to reduce the work function. But I have no knowledge in the
} manufacturing process of the tip (FIB?). Anybody who knows please shed
} some lights. Thanks in advance.
}
} *********************************
} Chaoying Ni
} Electron Microscopy Laboratory
} Materials Science and Engineering
} College of Engineering
} University of Delaware
} Newark, DE 19716
} *********************************
}
}
}
}



From daemon Tue Jun 12 16:22:37 2001



From: Dale A. Callaham :      dac-at-bio.umass.edu
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:18:26 -0400
Subject: JEOL JSM-5200 Wehnelt Assembly

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Hi -

I was cleaning today and I have a complete ready-to-plug wehnelt assembly
for a JEOL JSM-5200 SEM to give away. We inherited this piece and it is
just a bit different from the unit in our 5400, so please only ask if you
really have a 5200 as it probably won't fit other models. Claim goes to the
first school or non-profit that requests it, otherwise others.

Contact me if interested. Be willing to pay postage. ($10???)

Dale Callaham
+++++++++++++++++
Dale A. Callaham
Senior Microscopist, Stuck Jar Lid Opener, Odd Job Bear
Central Microscopy Facility
Morrill 4 North, Room 1
639 North Pleasant Street
The University of Massachusetts
Amherst, MA 01003-9278
-------------------------
Phone 413-545-3751
FAX 413-545-3243
email dac-at-bio.umass.edu
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From daemon Tue Jun 12 16:33:56 2001



From: Andrew Kellock :      kellock-at-almaden.ibm.com
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:29:20 -0700
Subject: EMP Cameca SX50 available

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After more than 20 years of faithful service at IBM Research we will be
retiring our Cameca SX50 electron microprobe.
The machine has three wavelength dispersive detectors as well as one energy
dispersive detector. The machine is operational except for the computer
system, which is a PDP-11. The machine has been dormant, but under vacuum
for roughly 3 years.
If anyone is interested in purchasing the machine, please send your offers
to :

Dr Andrew J. Kellock
Ion Beams Lab
Almaden Research Center
(408) 927 2353
kellock-at-almaden.ibm.com



From daemon Tue Jun 12 17:38:37 2001



From: Carl Morten Motzfeldt Laane :      c.m.m.laane-at-bio.uio.no
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:35:19 -0500
Subject: Zeiss Photomicroscope II

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Sirs!

We have an old Zeiss Photomicroscope II at our lab, mainly in wery good
condition, but there are electronic problems with the automatic camera
system. There are some faults in the large electronic box placed in the
microscope table.
We have possibilities to repair the microscope here at the university, but
unfortunately we have only been able to get a copy of the "Gesamtschaltplan
zum Photomicroscope III" (the electronic diagram), but that is entirely
different. In order to repair it we need the original electronic diagram
(or a copy of it) for the Photomicroscope II. The Carl Zeiss Factory could
not help us.
If someone could send us a copy, we would highly appreciate it.

Sincerely:

Morten Motzfeldt Laane
Professor of Biology (electron-microscopy)
Biological Institute
P.O.Box 1066,
0316 Blindern, Oslo, Norway


From daemon Tue Jun 12 17:39:51 2001



From: Dalton.Pierson-at-sealedair.com
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:38:01 -0500
Subject: "Hot-stage microscopy"

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Dear Sir or Madame,
I have been asked by my employer to investigate setting my laboratory up to
perform what was called "hot-stage microscopy". I understand this to be the
ability to observe the melting of (in this case) a polymer. I was hoping
that your organization could point me in the right direction. Any
information you could give me would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
Dalton Pierson


From daemon Tue Jun 12 17:40:28 2001



From: nancy.meijer-at-uniqema.com
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:38:41 -0500
Subject: LM - Need help on staining oil

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Dear reader,

I am looking for a colouring agent for oil (emollients) which needs to
applied to human skin.
If we apply the oil as such we do not have enough contrast for
measurements.
This colouring agent needs to be skin friendly, leave no stain on the skin
and it must not
change the viscosity of the oil.

Any information would be very helpful and appreciated.

Thanks,

Nancy Meijer


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From daemon Tue Jun 12 17:58:24 2001



From: lilaeloise-at-cs.com ()
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:55:35 -0500
Subject: Ask-A-Microscopist: laser confocal microscope

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Email: lilaeloise-at-cs.com
Name: Lila Allen

Organization: Sunrise Hospital

Education: Graduate College

Location: Nevada

Question: I've been looking for information regarding the differences
between laser confocal microscope and digital confocal microscopes,
including the advantages/disadvantages and uses of each.
Thank you,
Lila

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From daemon Wed Jun 13 01:25:38 2001



From: Tina Carvalho :      tina-at-pbrc.hawaii.edu
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:15:45 -1000 (HST)
Subject: TEM - effects of osmolarity

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Thanks to all who replied to my request for references to images of
osmolarity problems. The book below is a wonderful resource for images of
all kinds of treatments ranging from the effects of various fixation
protocols to analysis of digital images. I don't know how this book
escaped my notice when it came out, but I'm buying it, and heartily
recommend it!

} Biomedical Electron Microscopy by Maunsbach A B & Afzelius
} B A (1999) has several pages of illustrations of shrinkage
} etc.
}

} } Hi, All-
} }
} } Does anyone have a reference for or some transmission electron micrographs
} } that illustrate the effects of osmolarity of buffers on animal cells? I
} } would like to show students on tour of our facility shrinkage and swelling
} } of cells and organelles. I have other wonderful artifacts to show,
} } including one of my first sections with chatter so bad it looks like
} } mini-blinds...
} }
} } Mahalo!
} } Tina
} }
} } http://www.pbrc.hawaii.edu/bemf/microangela
} }
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* Biological Electron Microscope Facility * (808) 956-6251 *
* University of Hawaii at Manoa * http://www.pbrc.hawaii.edu/bemf*
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From daemon Wed Jun 13 01:48:46 2001



From: Oldrich Benada :      benada-at-biomed.cas.cz
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 06:45:08 GMT
Subject: Unwanted Newton rings

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Hello,
} From time to time I need to scan some negatives with flat bed scanner
(Umax PowerLook II). Sometimes there is a problem with Newton rings in
the scanned image. Does anybody know some tricks how to solve this
problem?
Best regards Oldrich
+-----------------------------------+
Oldrich Benada
Acad. Sci. CR
Institute of Microbiology
Laboratory of Electron Microscopy
Videnska 1083
CZ - 142 20 Prague 4 - Krc
Czech Republic
+------------------------------------+
Phone: +420-2-4752399
Fax: +420-2-4715743
WEB:http://www.biomed.cas.cz/mbu/lem113/lem.htm




From daemon Wed Jun 13 06:29:49 2001



From: Tom Isabell :      isabell-at-emispec.com
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 06:25:02 -0500
Subject: Open Position

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Technical Sales Engineer

Emispec Systems, Inc., a rapidly growing company that creates
software for electron microscopy, is looking for a domestic technical
sales engineer. We are looking for someone with strong
interpersonal skills and experience with customer interactions.

Some of the job requirements will include:

-Strong technical knowledge of products.
-Ability to give product demonstrations at tradeshows and at customer sites.
-Providing product information and quotations.
-Defining potential customers.
-Qualifying leads and determining customer needs.
-Adding/updating contact information in the sales database.
-Strong customer support throughout the purchasing cycle and after.
-Handling initial customer service requests, and coordinating with
the service department to see that they are handled appropriately.
-Extensive travel.

The ideal candidate should have a college degree. Sales experience
and/or experience in electron microscopy is a plus.
Salary is commensurate with experience.

Emispec Systems, Inc. is an equal opportunity employer.

Resumes and salary requirements should be sent to:
Human Resources
Emispec Systems, Inc.
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Attn: Technical Sales

Resumes will also be accepted via email to:
hr-at-emispec.com.


From daemon Wed Jun 13 06:33:27 2001



From: ggauss-at-dynacocorp.com ()
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 06:31:34 -0500
Subject: Ask-A-Microscopist:looking for a manual JENA Jenavert

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Email: ggauss-at-dynacocorp.com
Name: Gordon Gauss

Organization: Dynaco Corporation

Education: Undergraduate College

Location: Tempe, Arizona

Question: We recently received a microscope with no manual. It is an
aus JENA Jenavert. It is in excellent condition. We believe it was
East German made. Is anyone familiar with this microscope and how can
we obtain a manual in either german or english. Thank you...

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From daemon Wed Jun 13 06:42:01 2001



From: White, Woody N. :      nwwhite-at-mcdermott.com
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 06:28:05 -0500
Subject: RE: Unwanted Newton rings

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If Newton rings are the same as Moire patterns (constructive/destructive
interference lines)....

Many scanner drivers have a "de-screen" option or the like. My Microtek
system seems to do a decent job of removing the lines. Also, you might try
scanning at a much higher dpi (dots per inch ...or cm), then lightly average
pixels and reduce in array size to meet needs.

Woody White
McDermott Technology, Inc

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} } From time to time I need to scan some negatives with flat
} bed scanner
} (Umax PowerLook II). Sometimes there is a problem with Newton
} rings in
} the scanned image. Does anybody know some tricks how to solve this
} problem?
} Best regards Oldrich
} +-----------------------------------+
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} Acad. Sci. CR
} Institute of Microbiology
} Laboratory of Electron Microscopy
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} CZ - 142 20 Prague 4 - Krc
} Czech Republic
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From daemon Wed Jun 13 08:10:52 2001



From: Kathy Wolken :      wolken.1-at-osu.edu
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:15:22 -0400
Subject: University service lab charges

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I run a research based service lab at Ohio State University and I've been
asked to find out what other universities charge their internal customers
for the use of TEM, SEM, confocal microscopy and technical assistance. I'm
particularly interested in biological labs at large state universities, big
10 universities, and Ohio universities. Please respond directly to
me. Thanks.
Kathleen S. Wolken
Senior Electron Microscopist
Campus Microscopy and Imaging Facility (CMIF)
4029 Graves Hall
333 West 10th Avenue
Columbus, OH 43210-1239

Phone 614-292-9786
FAX 614-688-8742
WEB http://www.med.ohio-state.edu/cmif




From daemon Wed Jun 13 08:29:13 2001



From: Walck, Scott D. :      walck-at-ppg.com
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:23:11 -0400
Subject: Unwanted Newton rings

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The Newton rings are interference fringes due to the small air gap when the film not quite touches the glass. The way to get around the problem is to raise the film off of the glass just slightly. Most of the better quality scanners provide holders, although not TEM sized one. Make your own from two pieces of a file folder cut to the appropriate size and held together at one edge with tape. There is no problem with a defocus of the image.

-Scott

Scott D. Walck, Ph.D.
PPG Industries, Inc.
Glass Technology Center
P. O. Box 11472 (letters)
Guys Run Rd. (packages)
Pittsburgh, PA 15238-0472

Walck-at-PPG.com

(412) 820-8651 (office)
(412) 820-8515 (fax)



-----Original Message-----
} From: Oldrich Benada [mailto:benada-at-biomed.cas.cz]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 2:45 AM
To: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


Hello,
} From time to time I need to scan some negatives with flat bed scanner
(Umax PowerLook II). Sometimes there is a problem with Newton rings in
the scanned image. Does anybody know some tricks how to solve this
problem?
Best regards Oldrich
+-----------------------------------+
Oldrich Benada
Acad. Sci. CR
Institute of Microbiology
Laboratory of Electron Microscopy
Videnska 1083
CZ - 142 20 Prague 4 - Krc
Czech Republic
+------------------------------------+
Phone: +420-2-4752399
Fax: +420-2-4715743
WEB:http://www.biomed.cas.cz/mbu/lem113/lem.htm




From daemon Wed Jun 13 08:30:48 2001



From: Peter Tomic :      PTomic-at-anadigics.com
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:27:19 -0400
Subject: Re: How an FEG manufactured?

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Try speaking to Hitachi in Gaithersburg, MD. Their Applications Lab. should
have that info. at their fingertips.

Peter Tomic
Anadigics

-----Original Message-----
} From: Ken Converse [mailto:qualityimages-at-netrax.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 4:39 PM
To: Chaoying Ni; MSA, listserver



Chaoying Ni ,
I don't know about the current crop of FE cathodes, but in the past an
electrolytic cell was set up with the W needle as part of the circuit.
The needle was slowly dipped and removed several times from the NaOH
electrolyte. Essentially, it was the same technique as was (and is)
used to produce micomanipulator needles. I think the set-up was shown
and described well in a Microscopy Today article within the past 12 months.

Ken Converse
owner
Quality Images Delta, PA

Chaoying Ni wrote:

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} Hello lister,
}
} A fellow here in the department has the interest in knowing by which mean
} an FEG W-crystal needle is cut. I only know that in the case of Schottky
} emitter, the submicron needle is cut in {100} direction and coated with
} ZrO2 to reduce the work function. But I have no knowledge in the
} manufacturing process of the tip (FIB?). Anybody who knows please shed
} some lights. Thanks in advance.
}
} *********************************
} Chaoying Ni
} Electron Microscopy Laboratory
} Materials Science and Engineering
} College of Engineering
} University of Delaware
} Newark, DE 19716
} *********************************
}
}
}
}



From daemon Wed Jun 13 10:01:43 2001



From: Jensen, Karen :      Karen_Jensen-at-urmc.rochester.edu
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:55:00 -0400
Subject: Reichert & LKB Ultramicrotome trade

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I am looking for a LKB Nova ultramicrotome. I presently have a Reichert
Ultracut E which works absolutely fine, its just that I'm really a fan of
LKB ultramicrotomes (the last one was a LKB III which is not usable
anymore). I have used LKB's for over 20 yrs and I would prefer to go back
to that brand. Does anyone out there want to swap or sell one?

Karen Jensen, M.S.
Associate Scientist and Project Manager
University of Rochester Medical Center
Electron Microscope Research Core
Pathology and Lab. Med.
Rochester, NY 14642
716-275-1954


From daemon Wed Jun 13 10:01:43 2001



From: Robert H. Olley :      r.h.olley-at-reading.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:54:52 +0100 ()
Subject: Re: "Hot-stage microscopy"

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Dalton,

We have been looking at melting and crystallization of polymers under
hot stages for twenty years. We have always found Mettler-Toledo Hot
Stages very good, and have bought three of them.

For information, go to:

http://www.mt.com

then click on "Products" in the bar at top;

in the window 2.Product Search type "stage";

in the next window, under the text "Thermal Data - FP82HT/FP84HT"

click on the little button "English"

which will take you to a screen where you can request more information;

or else go directly there with

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From daemon Wed Jun 13 10:50:18 2001



From: John Twilley :      jtwilley-at-sprynet.com
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:46:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Quantitative Metallurgical analysis of Au/Sn in Microcircuit appl

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Dear Peter,

You do not indicate whether the objective is to measure the total amount
of the two metals in the assembly as a whole, or whether you want to
measure their proportions in each of the different areas: the tin
solder, the intermetallic layers and so on. You also don't indicate the
purpose to which the results are to be put. To some extent the answer
depends on knowing this, as a biased but highly repeatable measure of
something is often useful for internal purposes.

Someone with specific experience in this industry might have a more
specific reply but in general, the problem is that the same elements are
shared by very different phases in close proximity to one another. For
the Au/Sn intermetallic compounds which have quite specific
compositions, the absorption /enhancement effects will be different than
for a low-concentration solid solution of either of the metals in the
other. Without a standard comprised of a known intermetallic phase, the
results could be consistent (that is, you might be able to use the
measure as a means of process control) but not very accurate (as
compared with the absolute amounts present). Another frequently
overlooked problem with quantifying the results of e-probe analysis of a
multiphase alloy is that the size distribution of imiscible but
intimately mixed phases may change due to process variables (e.g.
thermal history) even though the total proportion of the metals remains
the same. The micro-environment (matrix effect) experienced by an
emitted x-ray will depend on its probability of passing through the same
material or a different phase on its way to reaching the detector.
Obviously this can be affected by the grainsize of a eutectic mixture.

You haven't indicated whether the sample is to be sectioned into a
planar surface for analysis or examined as is. Another frequently
overlooked problem is that of x-rays emitted through secondary
interactions with structures that are not illuminated by the beam but
which are "visible" within the detector collimator's view. A planar
cross section presents the least chance for interference of this kind.
On the other hand, a gold-metallized surface projection that resides
next to your solder structure could be a source of enhanced Au-m x-rays
produced through secondary fluorescence by the Sn-l x-rays under the
beam. (even though secondary emmission is not a very efficient process,
the number of Sn x-rays fluorescing the adjacent gold is much higher
than the number that happen to be emitted in the direction of the X-ray
detector. Meanwhile the X-ray detector is looking at the whole scene
indiscriminately.

John Twilley

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From daemon Wed Jun 13 11:06:36 2001



From: McLean, Dorrance :      dmclea-at-sandia.gov
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:00:50 -0600
Subject: RE: Unwanted Newton rings

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Hi,
I've found two things that helped eliminate this problem. If you place the
negative directly onto the scanner bed, use an anti-static brush to wipe
both the bed and the negative first. The second solution was to modify a
negative holder. I work mostly with TEM sized negatives and we just cut out
the back (solid) part of a TEM negative holder, then we place the negative
into the holder which keeps it from contacting the scanner bed directly. If
your working with a different size negative you could fashion a holder from
anything, even a piece of poster board should work. I think the fringes
are caused by a build up of static between the scanner bed and the negative.
I have also found that if you go to adjust contrast in print shop and adjust
the contrast through the entire range from too light to too dark you can
pick up a fringe before you take the negative off the scanner. That
eliminates having to go back and re-do a picture because the fringe wasn't
real apparent when you scanned it. Hope this works for you...it has made my
life a lot easier.
Dorrance

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From daemon Wed Jun 13 11:32:58 2001



From: mario:      jane0l2l-at-excite.com
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:37:25
Subject: Manuf. Production/Contrl Software For $1,495.00.

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Job Master, a complete, user friendly Windows based software package, can manage and control your operation from sales quote to shipment.

For one week only, Job Master, normally $2,495.00, is on sale for a total price of $1,495.00. In order for you to receive this $1,000.00 savings we must have your order by June 22th.

Job Master is designed specifically for small to medium sized manufacturers, and costs many thousands of dollars less than any other even remotely comparable software package.

Following is a list of features. If you have any questions, would like to discuss the package further, or if you would like to obtain our Web site address for a total walk through of the program, please call me directly at (661)254-9926(please do not E Mail me back. I may not get your message if you simply hit "Reply" and respond to this message via return E Mail).

By way of background, we are a software company, which for some years has specialized in the development of custom software, primarily for small to medium sized manufacturers. Job Master is a distillation of over a million and a half dollars of software we have developed to control and manage the production of our manufacturing clients.

Job Master contains the following features:

1. QUOTATION MODULE. In this module, quotes are developed, modified, and produced for sending to your client. A history is kept of all quotes for future reference, or modification for other clients. All quotations and revisions are "auto numbered," including versions. The quotes section allows for the entry of parts/processes, and costing of each, including materials, labor, markup, and taxes. Inventory status can be accessed from this section for reference.

2. SALES ORDER. Once a quotation is accepted, the final quotation information can be transformed into a Sales Order for your client's signature on a "point and click" basis. The Sales Order can be modified and re issued if necessary. A history if kept of all Sales Orders for future reference, or modification for other clients. All sales orders and revisions are "auto numbered," including versions. Inventory status can be accessed from this section for reference.

3. CUSTOMER LETTERS can be created from the Quotation and Sales Order sections.

4. SHOP TRAVELER/WORK ORDER. Once a Sales Order is accepted, the sales order information can be transformed into a shop traveler/work order on a "point and click" basis. Each item on the Sales Order becomes a shop traveler/work order, with each step of production of the item then listed on the traveler/work order. Each such traveler/work order is tied back into the Sales Order. The shop traveler/work order allows for the entry of line items, and notes on each line item. The shop traveler/work order contains a "notes" section. The Shop traveler/work order allows for the storing or attachment of drawings to the traveler/work order. The shop traveler/work order also contains a "drop down," from which standard processes can be selected for inclusion on the shop traveler/work order. The shop traveler/work order numbers progress in order of production sequence, and re numbers them if new steps are added. The shop traveler/work order allows for change orders or revisions, and numbers changes in sequence of
he original shop traveler/work order number; i.e., 100, 100-1, 100-2, etc. All shop traveler/work orders and related revisions are retained in memory for future reference. The shop traveler/work order is bar coded for tracking of production step by step, and production of ongoing client status reports. Bar coding includes the ability for an employee to "swipe" their own ID bar code for recording in the system as to who upgraded what step. The shop traveler/work order function also allows for manual update of production status. The shop traveler/work order allows for quality control sign off, and the final production of certifications, either from a "canned" list, or hand typed in on a case by case basis.

5. INVENTORY. The application includes an inventory section, which allows operations to check materials inventory in and out. The inventory section allows for the comparison of inventory received against a P.O., and produces an "overage/underage" report of inventory received as compared against the P.O. The inventory section allows for the setting of minimum (re-order now!) and maximum inventory amounts, and produces reports showing what inventory needs to be ordered, as well as inventory that is at or above the maximum set to have in house. The inventory section also tracks "partially shipped" orders, which are tied in to the shipping function. This section shows how much completed product under a particular order has been actually shipped to a client, and how much remains to be shipped. The balance is adjusted as shipments are made.

6. REQUEST FOR PURCHASE. The application allows operators to produce a Request For Purchase for accounting for any inventory items, which need to be ordered. Inventory items have a drop down of approved vendors for each item.

7. REQUEST FOR BID. The application allows operators to produce a Request For Bid for accounting to send to Vendors for any inventory items, which need to be ordered. Inventory items have a drop down of approved vendors for each item to which Requests For Bid can be sent.

8. INVOICE. The application produces an invoice/invoice detail for all completed items ready to be billed/shipped to clients.

9. PRODUCTION OUTPUT STATUS. The application produces a date range selectable report on how much product, and the value of the product, which was completed during a selected date range. The application also produces a report on how many orders, and the value of those orders, which remain to be completed during a selected date range.

10. The application produces SHIPPING DOCUMENTS as per selected shippers, and produces a PACKING SLIP.

11. The application has a "FIND" FUNCTION in selected sections, allowing for searches by customer name, work order number, etc.

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From daemon Wed Jun 13 15:21:11 2001



From: Wil Bigelow :      bigelow-at-engin.umich.edu
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:15:09 -0400
Subject: RE: Used Instruments

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Listers: Here's info about another source of used instruments.

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} Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:05:13 -0500
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}
} Hello Professor Bigelow,
}
} Here is another source, as well. I have been in the instrument
} business for over 30 years, used to be with Philips and then at the
} University of Illinois for 10 years. Now, for the past eight years
} have had my own little business in Texas. I probably have more
} parts for older Philips microscopes than Philips. Also, I sell
} reconditioned, used electron microscopes of most brands.
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From daemon Wed Jun 13 15:50:11 2001



From: Sandra Hancock :      skperkin-at-vt.edu
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:48:10 -0400
Subject: Tissue culture/fluorescent antibody staining

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Hello-

We have a graduate student who is using a fluorescent antibody labelling
technique on a neuronal cell culture plate. Briefly, she fixes the cells
in 4% paraformaldehyde, permeabilizes them with Triton-X and continues with
the immunostaining. The cells stay on the plate (they can only grow on
plates, not slides or coverslips). The question we have is how to
coverslip them and then observe them with a fluorescent microscope. Will
glycerol work? Can we simply put a drop of glycerol on the plate and add a
coverslip or do we need a fluorescent mounting medium? I have limited
experience with fluorescent microscopy, so I would appreciate any help that
you can provide.

Thank you very much,
Sandy Hancock

Laboratory for Neurotoxicity Studies
VMRCVM
VA Tech




From daemon Wed Jun 13 16:05:24 2001



From: Sergey Ryazantsev :      sryazant-at-ucla.edu
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:00:08 -0700
Subject: RE: Unwanted Newton rings

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I am using transparency for Xerox machine with "windows" cut in it in such
manner, that it's slightly smaller than actual negative's size. In my
particular case I find that rings happens between negative and scanners
bed. So, I put transparency on the bed and than negatives (4 per
transparency sheet) in the way, when negatives situated across the
"windows". In my particular case, transparency presence does not affect
scanned image quality. You may put second sheet over the negatives if
necessary.

Good luck!

Sergey.


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From daemon Wed Jun 13 16:22:57 2001



From: tbargar-at-unmc.edu
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:09:44 -0500
Subject: Destaining a thin section

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Hello;

Is it possible to destain a thin section? After having stained with uranyl
acetate and lead citrate. All help appreciated, thanks.

Tom Bargar
EM Lab, UNMC
402-559-7347



From daemon Thu Jun 14 02:07:55 2001



From: Oldrich Benada :      benada-at-biomed.cas.cz
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 06:58:57 GMT
Subject: Unwanted Newton rings - thanks

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Many thanks for all replies.
Oldrich Benada


From daemon Thu Jun 14 04:40:23 2001



From: Bart De Pauw :      Bart.DePauw-at-rug.ac.be
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:36:36 +0200
Subject: SEM osmolarity

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Hello everybody,

Recently, there was a question about TEM and osmolarity. I have now a
question about SEM and osmolarity. Has anyone have some references about
this topic ? We are studying the canine uterus. We have some problems
concerning (we think !) the osmolarity & the epithelial cells of the
uterus.
Any comment would be appreciated !


Bart De Pauw
Morphology
Belgium



From daemon Thu Jun 14 07:45:06 2001



From: Karl Garsha :      mpalmer1-at-wi.rr.com
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:44:26 -0500
Subject: Tissue culture/fluorescent ab staining

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Greetings Sandy,

Photobleaching, or fading, causes loss of fluorescent signal in part due to
photodynamic events which involve the interaction of the fluorophore with
light energy and oxygen.
Fluorescent labels have a characteristic life span, for instance, an average
fluorescein molecule will emit 30k to 40k photons during its photo-chemical
life span. Higher intensity light excites the fluorophor to emit a greater
yield of photons and the service life of the fluorescent label is
proportionally reduced.
For this reason, it is generally a good idea to add some form of
bleaching protection (anti-fading reagent) to a glycerol-based mounting
media for fluorescent microscopy. P-phenylenediamine (Sigma Chemical Co.)
used in a concentration of 0.1% in [10% phosphate buffered saline/90%
glycerol] is good. Diazabicyclo-octane or n-propyl-gallate (~0.1-0.2% in
10% PBS/Glycerol are decent alternatives. The disadvantage to this approach
is that the coverslip must be sealed (nail varnish) in order to fix the
coverslip permanently.
Vectrashield (Vector Co.) is a propriety product for fluorescent
microscopy which seems to work quite well with the added advantages of
convenience and greater permanence.
One other consideration is the degree to which your fixation protocol
affects the antigenicity of your target-a short (10 min/10% buffered
formalin) is a good place to start-some antigens seem to be very sensitive
to the cross-linking effects of aldehyde fixation, acetone or
ethanol/methanol fixation may prove helpful if this is the case. If the
target is a membrane protein one wants to be cautious with the Triton-X.
Residual Triton-X could also interfere with the antigen-antibody interaction
in a sensitive system. Acetone also permeablizes cell membranes, and if I
recall correctly is a favorable fixative for immunofluoresent studies of the
cytoskeleton.
Culturing cells on slides or coverslips may not be an issue as long as
you can get the culure plates into the scope. However, I believe theromonox
(sp?) coverslips are designed to allow cell adhesion. Some workers coat
slides and/or cover slips with poly-l-lysine for cell adhesion.
Coverslipping is important to allow the optical system of the microscope to
function at full potential. This is less of an issue with inverted
microscopes designed to accomodate tissue culture vessels.
Regards,
Karl Garsha

keg-at-uwm.edu
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From daemon Thu Jun 14 07:46:41 2001



From: Richard Cole :      rcole-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:42:03 -0400
Subject: Destaining a thin section

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You can de-stain both thick and thin section w/ 0.2 M EDTA. Only the time
differs. One caveat, if the section has been irradiated, i.e. in the TEM
then this will much less effective.

Good luck

Richard Cole
Research Scientist III
Director: Advanced Light Microscopy Core Unit
Wadsworth Center
P.O. Box 509 Albany N.Y. 12201-0509
518-474-7048 Phone
518-486-4901 Fax


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Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 4:10 PM
To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


Hello;

Is it possible to destain a thin section? After having stained with uranyl
acetate and lead citrate. All help appreciated, thanks.

Tom Bargar
EM Lab, UNMC
402-559-7347




From daemon Thu Jun 14 09:31:00 2001



From: Jensen, Karen :      Karen_Jensen-at-urmc.rochester.edu
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:23:27 -0400
Subject: University service lab charges

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Dear Kathy:

At the University of Rochester Electron Microscope Research Core, we charge
$75.00/hour with an Electron Microscopist running & photographing using our
Hitachi 7100 TEM, without the EM person, a trained researcher or grad
student must be trained on its use and the rate becomes $50.00/hour.

Our processing and preparation of tissue is at $75.00/hour and that only
counts the hands-on times. For instance, usually it could take 30 minutes
to do 1 micron sections and thin section the same block. We bill for
.5hr=$37.50 to cut one block, .25 hr=$18.75 if no screening 1 micron
sections are needed.

Most investigators have us embedd 2-6 blocks of tissue, etc. We cut a
representative block, review the 1 micron with them if necessary and then
proceed with the thin-sectioning. Staining is usually .25hr...etc, If the
investigator wanted more than one block cut and thin sectioned(3-5 grids),
they would all be stained together using a Hiroka staining kit(holds up to
40 grids) and therefore would only be charged the .25hr rate. However, the
methods and materials you use and speed in which they are performed can vary
from one lab to another.

We only billed $35,000 last year and that doesn't begin to cover salaries.
So the University of Rochester has to subsidize the EM Core. However, the
Core(s) is a big marketing tool for those researchers which are actively
being recruited. Many Molecular Science researchers utilize the EM Core for
ImmunoEM procedures. In fact, the majority of my work is performing pre-
and postembedding immunolabeling for EM. The average bill for this varies
from $00-1,000.

Hope this helps you.

Karen Jensen, M.S.
Associate Scientist and Project Manager
University of Rochester Medical Center
Electron Microscope Research Core
Pathology and Lab. Med.
Rochester, NY 14642

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Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:15 AM
To: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


I run a research based service lab at Ohio State University and I've been
asked to find out what other universities charge their internal customers
for the use of TEM, SEM, confocal microscopy and technical assistance. I'm
particularly interested in biological labs at large state universities, big
10 universities, and Ohio universities. Please respond directly to
me. Thanks.
Kathleen S. Wolken
Senior Electron Microscopist
Campus Microscopy and Imaging Facility (CMIF)
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Columbus, OH 43210-1239

Phone 614-292-9786
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From daemon Thu Jun 14 10:35:09 2001



From: Tom Phillips :      PhillipsT-at-missouri.edu
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:24:42 -0500
Subject: Re: Tissue culture/fluorescent ab staining

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As a general rule, I am less than thrilled about using anti-fade
agents for fixed cells unless absolutely necessary for the reasons
explained below. Live cell work may require anti-oxidants but I am
less familiar with this application. I think it is better to use more
stable fluorochromes (e.g., Alexa 488 instead of FITC)

PPD is a skin sensitizer, photosensitive, and Giloh & Sedat (1982)
Science 217:1252 says it has no effect on rhodamine fading. I
believe they actually showed storage of rhodamine specimens in 5%
n-propyl gallate (NPG) in glycerol for 2-3 days decreased
fluorescence (suggest rinsing slides for storage (what a pain!).
Krienk et al., 1989 J. Immuno. Methods 117:91 compared DABCO, PPD and
NPG and concluded DABCO the least effect. Valnes & Brandtzaeg (1985)
J Histochem Cytochem 33:755 also said DABCO not as effective as PPD
or NPG but also say NPG and PPD only good if slides made recently and
examined promptly - recommended re-mounting in PVA without quencher
if you were going to store. I have tried Vectashield and other
commercial anti-fade compounds with ok results but it is hard to say
exactly how much they helped. I don't think there are any systematic
published studies examining if they work equally well with all
fluorochromes or if they hurt the sample with storage.

Be cautious about using FITC in any PBS buffered mounting medium
since it is much more fluorescent at alkaline (pH 8.6) than neutral
(pH 7.0) pH's.

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(573)-882-4712 (voice)
(573)-882-0123 (fax)


From daemon Thu Jun 14 10:36:01 2001



From: Jaclynn Lett :      jlett-at-cid.wustl.edu
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:31:42 -0500
Subject: DAB for Epon-Araldite

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I'm trying to embed and section mouse cochleas that have been immunoreacted
en bloc for BrdU with DAB as the chromagen. The soft tissues of the cochlea
were separated from the bony structures, leaving a soft tissue spiral
containing the organ of Corti.

During processing for Epon-Araldite for 5 micron sections for light
microscopy (without osmium and using increasing concentrations of aqueous
acetone as the dehydrant), it appears as if the chromagen was lost (no
labeled cells were seen) and a purple/grey background was left behind.
Whole mounts immunoreacted at the same time retained an amber coloring with
dark brown-labeled nuclei.

Does anyone have any hints as to what happened here or what we can do in the
future to retain the labeling throughout plastic processing. I've done this
embedding in the past with the same type of tissue (but still in the bony
labyrinth) and had no problems.

Thank you,

Jaclynn M. Lett, Research Assistant
jlett-at-cid.wustl.edu

Faye and Carl Simons Center for Biology of Hearing and Deafness
Central Institute for the Deaf
4560 Clayton Avenue
St. Louis, MO 63110

voice: 314.977.0257 fax: 314.977.0030



From daemon Thu Jun 14 11:27:17 2001



From: L. Muffley :      muffley-at-u.washington.edu
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:22:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Tissue culture/fluorescent ab staining

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Just an FYI-
we have found thermanox to be autoflourescent.

Lara Muffley
Dermatology Dept
University of Washington
Seattle, WA
muffley-at-u.washington.edu

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} Greetings Sandy,
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} Photobleaching, or fading, causes loss of fluorescent signal in part due to
} photodynamic events which involve the interaction of the fluorophore with
} light energy and oxygen.
} Fluorescent labels have a characteristic life span, for instance, an average
} fluorescein molecule will emit 30k to 40k photons during its photo-chemical
} life span. Higher intensity light excites the fluorophor to emit a greater
} yield of photons and the service life of the fluorescent label is
} proportionally reduced.
} For this reason, it is generally a good idea to add some form of
} bleaching protection (anti-fading reagent) to a glycerol-based mounting
} media for fluorescent microscopy. P-phenylenediamine (Sigma Chemical Co.)
} used in a concentration of 0.1% in [10% phosphate buffered saline/90%
} glycerol] is good. Diazabicyclo-octane or n-propyl-gallate (~0.1-0.2% in
} 10% PBS/Glycerol are decent alternatives. The disadvantage to this approach
} is that the coverslip must be sealed (nail varnish) in order to fix the
} coverslip permanently.
} Vectrashield (Vector Co.) is a propriety product for fluorescent
} microscopy which seems to work quite well with the added advantages of
} convenience and greater permanence.
} One other consideration is the degree to which your fixation protocol
} affects the antigenicity of your target-a short (10 min/10% buffered
} formalin) is a good place to start-some antigens seem to be very sensitive
} to the cross-linking effects of aldehyde fixation, acetone or
} ethanol/methanol fixation may prove helpful if this is the case. If the
} target is a membrane protein one wants to be cautious with the Triton-X.
} Residual Triton-X could also interfere with the antigen-antibody interaction
} in a sensitive system. Acetone also permeablizes cell membranes, and if I
} recall correctly is a favorable fixative for immunofluoresent studies of the
} cytoskeleton.
} Culturing cells on slides or coverslips may not be an issue as long as
} you can get the culure plates into the scope. However, I believe theromonox
} (sp?) coverslips are designed to allow cell adhesion. Some workers coat
} slides and/or cover slips with poly-l-lysine for cell adhesion.
} Coverslipping is important to allow the optical system of the microscope to
} function at full potential. This is less of an issue with inverted
} microscopes designed to accomodate tissue culture vessels.
} Regards,
} Karl Garsha
}
} keg-at-uwm.edu
} www.uwm.edu/~keg
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}



From daemon Thu Jun 14 12:28:50 2001



From: Pankaj Kumar Patro :      pankaj-at-met.iitb.ac.in
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:50:21 -0500 (GMT)
Subject: TEM, etchant for ceramics

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Dear Friends

I am looking for an etching agent for a ceramic
material so that the TEM investigation can be done.

The ceramic material is STRONTIUM BARIUM NIOBATE.

i tried to do it by using HF,but hardly got any
success.

If any one among you has already used some etchant for
this material or related materials are requested to
give some suggestions.

Suggestions for any books or websites to be refeerred
for this purpose are also welcome.




Thanking You

With Regards

Pankaj Kumar Patro

Dept of Met.Engg. and Materials Sc
IIT- Bombay
India- 400076

e-mail-pankaj-at-met.iitb.ac.in




From daemon Thu Jun 14 15:25:32 2001



From: John Basgen :      basgen-at-maroon.tc.umn.edu
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:18:30 -0500
Subject: ultramicrotome

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I am in the market to purchase a new ultramicrotome. I am aware of the Leica
and RMC ultramicrotomes. Are there other companies manufacturing
ultramicrotomes today?



John M. Basgen
Department of Pediatrics
University of Minnesota
Mayo Mail Code 491
420 Delaware Street SE
Minneapolis, MN 55455
USA
Phone: 612-625-7979
FAX: 612-626-2791
E-mail: basgen-at-umn.edu



From daemon Thu Jun 14 16:28:24 2001



From: Haixin Xu :      xu-at-gl.umbc.edu
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:22:35 -0400
Subject: water cleaner for EM chiller

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Hi lister,

I have some problems with our EM chillers. The water in EM cooling
circulation is bad contaminated by algae, bacteria, maybe more
microorganisms. Does somebody here know some water cleaner for chillers of
EM? Appreciate for the help.

Haixin Xu

Biological Sciences
University of Maryland, Baltimore County
Baltimore, Maryland



From daemon Thu Jun 14 19:26:22 2001



From: Tamara Howard :      thoward-at-UNM.EDU
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:20:07 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: water cleaner for EM chiller

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Do you have filters somewhere in the recirculation lines? A lot of places
have 2 barrel-type filters (I don't know the correct term - they
look like tubing, not flat membranes) in-line to clean up anything that
might grow. Change them every 6 months or when they start to look like
they might become sentient.

I've been told that you should not put algicides in the water; the filters
are probably the best way to go.

Tamara

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} I have some problems with our EM chillers. The water in EM cooling
} circulation is bad contaminated by algae, bacteria, maybe more
} microorganisms. Does somebody here know some water cleaner for chillers of
} EM? Appreciate for the help.
}
} Haixin Xu
}
} Biological Sciences
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} Baltimore, Maryland
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|--------------------------------------------------|
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Department of Cell Biology and Physiology
University of New Mexico - Health Sciences Center
Albuquerque, NM 87131
thoward-at-unm.edu
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From daemon Thu Jun 14 22:33:20 2001



From: Meg Mitchell :      MMITCHELL-at-rsbs.anu.edu.au
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:27:33 +1000
Subject: Polymer Microscopy

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Does anyone have a second hand copy of "Polymer Microscopy" by Sawyer & Grubb that they would like to sell?

Please let me know and we can talk $$$

Thanks

Meg

Meg Mitchell
EM Unit
RSBS
ANU
Meg.Mitchell-at-rsbs.anu.edu.au




From daemon Fri Jun 15 00:01:14 2001



From: Whunter-at-ushrl.ars.usda.gov ()
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:57:42 -0500
Subject: Ask-A-Microscopist: protocol to embed insects

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
(Whunter-at-ushrl.ars.usda.gov) from
http://www.msa.microscopy.com/Ask-A-Microscopist.html on Thursday,
June 14, 2001 at 07:58:06
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Email: Whunter-at-ushrl.ars.usda.gov
Name: Wayne Hunter

Organization: USDA { ARS

Education: Graduate College

Location: Ft. Pierce, FL, USA

Question: I am looking for a protocol to embed insects in Paraplast,
and doing thick sections,
Thank you,
Sincerely,
Wayne Hunter
REsearch Entomologist

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From daemon Fri Jun 15 00:01:48 2001



From: treese :      treese-at-marinebio.mbl.edu
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:00:13 -0500
Subject: printers

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From daemon Fri Jun 15 02:10:36 2001



From: Emond W F de Roever :      ederoever-at-ONDEO-Nalco.com
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:58:36 +0200
Subject: water cleaner for EM chiller

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Haixin,

Growth of algae, bacteria etc may also be prevented/reduced by using
black, intransparant tubes instead of white transparant ones. They were
installed on my chiller for an ESEM 2020, after considerable problems.
With best regards, Emond de Roever, Ondeo Nalco Europe Technical Centre,
Oegstgeest, the Netherlands


"I have some problems with our EM chillers. The water in EM cooling
circulation is bad contaminated by algae, bacteria, maybe more
microorganisms. Does somebody here know some water cleaner for
chillers of
EM? Appreciate for the help."

Haixin Xu

Biological Sciences
University of Maryland, Baltimore County
Baltimore, Maryland











From daemon Fri Jun 15 03:51:18 2001



From: Dr Eric Lachowski :      e.lachowski-at-abdn.ac.uk
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:47:01 +0100
Subject: chiller

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Haixin,
I've found that using distilled or de-ionised water in the chiller in
addition to the measures already suggested will also greatly reduce the
growth of microorganisms by denying them nutrients.

Regards,
Eric lachowski

------------
Dr Eric Lachowski
University of Aberdeen
Department of Chemistry
Meston Walk
Old Aberdeen AB24 3UE
Scotland
Tel. +44 (0)1224 272934
Fax +44(0)1224 272921
e.lachowski-at-abdn.ac.uk



From daemon Fri Jun 15 07:32:27 2001



From: White, Woody N. :      nwwhite-at-mcdermott.com
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:17:37 -0500
Subject: RE: printers

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I am using an Epson 980. I find it satisfactory for both B&W and color
prints and it is reasonably fast. It is also relatively inexpensive. Choice
of paper grade/type is very important in determining available print
quality.

Woody White
McDermott technology, Inc


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} preference for one of these, or maybe another mfg or technology has
} emerged. We want B+W quality and reliability, and are willing to pay
} a bit more,and sacrifice speed and color quality...Thanks...Tom Reese
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From daemon Fri Jun 15 07:32:33 2001



From: Hendrik O. Colijn :      colijn.1-at-osu.edu
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:08:32 -0400
Subject: Re: printers

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Tom,

I have seen a retrofit for Epson printers that looks quite interesting at

http://www.piezography.com/

I haven't actually seen it in action but it looks like it should be good
for B/W prints. The advertising samples on the web site look very
nice. Basically they replace the color cartridges with different densities
of black ink. By allowing gray inks, they reduce the amount of dithering
required. The product consists of the replacement cartridges and the
revised printer driver software.

Has anyone actually tried this approach?

Cheers,
Henk Colijn


At 12:00 AM 6/15/01 -0500, treese wrote:

} We are going to replace our old Epson InkJet printer which produces nice
} B+W prints of micrographs, when it works. I haven't kept up with Epson vs
} HP for electron microscopists and wondered if a clear preference for one
} of these, or maybe another mfg or technology has emerged. We want B+W
} quality and reliability, and are willing to pay a bit more,and sacrifice
} speed and color quality...Thanks...Tom Reese

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The wise are pleased when they discover truth.



From daemon Fri Jun 15 08:11:15 2001



From: Roberson, Michael (M) :      MRoberson-at-dow.com
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:06:51 -0400
Subject: W needles

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Does anyone happen to know in what issue of microscopy Today the
following information on sharpening W needles was found? (or how to make
them) If so please send me a note at, MRoberson-at-dow,com

I don't know about the current crop of FE cathodes, but in the past an
electrolytic cell was set up with the W needle as part of the circuit.
The needle was slowly dipped and removed several times from the NaOH
electrolyte. Essentially, it was the same technique as was (and is)
used to produce micomanipulator needles. I think the set-up was shown
and described well in a Microscopy Today article within the past 12 months.

Michael Roberson
(517)636-8656
SMX
Analytical Sciences
Midland, MI 48667



From daemon Fri Jun 15 08:43:56 2001



From: Wil Bigelow :      bigelow-at-engin.umich.edu
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:41:44 -0400
Subject: RE: Algae in water chiller

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The question of avoiding algal growth in water chillers is discussed
at length on p. 216 of my book 'Vacuum Methods in Electron
Microscopy' (see http://www.2spi.com/catalog/books/book48.html and
http://www.pup.princeton.edu/titles/6484.html)

One important way of reducing algal growth is to exclude light from
the system by keeping the reservior tank covered and by using opaque
tubing. If this is not sufficient then we have had great success
over many years by adding the algacide known as 'Chloramine-T' to the
water in the amount of about 0.25 grams per liter. This stuff is
available from most speciality chemical companies (Aldrich, Sigma,
Polysciences) under the chemical name of
N-chloro-p-toluensulphonamide. It is not highly soluble, and so is
not likely to produce deposits in the system. We have not had any
trouble with damage to any of our systems in which this material has
been used.
--
Wilbur C. Bigelow, Prof. Emeritus
Materials Sci. & Engr., University of Michigan
3062 Dow Bldg.; 2300 Hayward St.
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2136 e-mail: bigelow-at-umich.edu;
Fx:734-763-4788; Ph:734-662-5237


From daemon Fri Jun 15 08:56:43 2001



From: Jensen, Karen :      Karen_Jensen-at-urmc.rochester.edu
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:50:43 -0400
Subject: University service lab charges

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-----Original Message-----
} From: Jensen, Karen
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 10:23 AM
To: 'Kathy Wolken'
Cc: 'microscopy-at-msa.microscopy.com'


Dear Kathy:

At the University of Rochester Electron Microscope Research Core, we charge
$75.00/hour with an Electron Microscopist running & photographing using our
Hitachi 7100 TEM, without the EM person, a trained researcher or grad
student must be trained on its use and the rate becomes $50.00/hour.

Our processing and preparation of tissue is at $75.00/hour and that only
counts the hands-on times. For instance, usually it could take 30 minutes
to do 1 micron sections and thin section the same block. We bill for
.5hr=$37.50 to cut one block, .25 hr=$18.75 if no screening 1 micron
sections are needed.

Most investigators have us embedd 2-6 blocks of tissue, etc. We cut a
representative block, review the 1 micron with them if necessary and then
proceed with the thin-sectioning. Staining is usually .25hr...etc, If the
investigator wanted more than one block cut and thin sectioned(3-5 grids),
they would all be stained together using a Hiroka staining kit(holds up to
40 grids) and therefore would only be charged the .25hr rate. However, the
methods and materials you use and speed in which they are performed can vary
from one lab to another.

We only billed $35,000 last year and that doesn't begin to cover salaries.
So the University of Rochester has to subsidize the EM Core. However, the
Core(s) is a big marketing tool for those researchers which are actively
being recruited. Many Molecular Science researchers utilize the EM Core for
ImmunoEM procedures. In fact, the majority of my work is performing pre-
and postembedding immunolabeling for EM. The average bill for this varies
from $300-1,000.

Hope this helps you.

Karen Jensen, M.S.
Associate Scientist and Project Manager
University of Rochester Medical Center
Electron Microscope Research Core
Pathology and Lab. Med.
Rochester, NY 14642

-----Original Message-----
} From: Kathy Wolken [mailto:wolken.1-at-osu.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:15 AM
To: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


I run a research based service lab at Ohio State University and I've been
asked to find out what other universities charge their internal customers
for the use of TEM, SEM, confocal microscopy and technical assistance. I'm
particularly interested in biological labs at large state universities, big
10 universities, and Ohio universities. Please respond directly to
me. Thanks.
Kathleen S. Wolken
Senior Electron Microscopist
Campus Microscopy and Imaging Facility (CMIF)
4029 Graves Hall
333 West 10th Avenue
Columbus, OH 43210-1239

Phone 614-292-9786
FAX 614-688-8742
WEB http://www.med.ohio-state.edu/cmif




From daemon Fri Jun 15 08:59:11 2001



From: Ann-Fook Yang (Ann-Fook Yang) :      yanga-at-em.agr.ca
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:58:56 -0400
Subject: Re: water cleaner for EM chiller

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you can purchase algicide from Fisher, VWR or other lab suppliers.




Ann Fook Yang
EM Unit,
Eastern Cereal and Oilseed Research Centre,
Rm 2091, K.W. Neatby Bldg.,
Central Experimental Farm,
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1A 0C6

Phone: 613-759-1638
Fax; 613-759-1701

} } } Haixin Xu {xu-at-gl.umbc.edu} 06/14 5:22 PM } } }
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Hi lister,

I have some problems with our EM chillers. The water in EM cooling
circulation is bad contaminated by algae, bacteria, maybe more
microorganisms. Does somebody here know some water cleaner for chillers of
EM? Appreciate for the help.

Haixin Xu

Biological Sciences
University of Maryland, Baltimore County
Baltimore, Maryland





From daemon Fri Jun 15 09:22:37 2001



From: Walck, Scott D. :      walck-at-ppg.com
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:01:26 -0400
Subject: W needles

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I don't remember which issue of MT, but the following two paragraphs are three items that I sent to the Listserver recently describing sample preparation of emitters.

1)(Ni)
I'm trying to remember back to grad school, but I'm pretty sure that it was a 10%HCl solution in water. I used it for Ni FIM samples. I'll look it up in my dissertation and see if I have it. Hren's book or Bowkett and Smith's book on FIM had the reference for Ni. I do remember that the solution worked better after it was used some. It took on a greenish tinge. So what I started doing with a fresh batch, was taking a little crystalline NiCl (green powder) a putting just a bit into solution to get the color just right. I can't remember if I used ac of dc.

2)(W)
I used to prepare W FIM emitter tips with a 5% NaOH solution and I think the voltage was around 5 to 10 volts ac. When I used to electropolish, the FIM solutions and conditions were frequently similar to the jet polishing solutions.

3)(Fe & floating layer method)
You can use Field Ion Microscopy sample prep techniques to prepare very sharp needles of the wires. Basically, you can dip them in a beaker and electropolish them. The liquid/air interface will preferentially polish them. You need to move the interface up and down the sample by moving either the sample or liquid. If the wires are long enough, you can float electrolyte on top of CCl4 layer and you can get two samples when the bottom part drops off. Look up some of the standard electropolishing solutions and conditions. One is based on percholoric/butylcelsolve and the other on chromic acid/acetic acid -I think.


FEG note:
Someone asked recently about FEG tips. One problem with these tips that anyone off the streets would have is getting material that is oriented. Normal W wires have a [011] texture. The desired orientation for emitters in order for them to have a low work function and high brightness is either [112] or [113] (I can't remember). Other than that, I think anyone with experience making FIM samples could probably duplicate their construction within a short time, even Schottky design.

-Scott

Scott D. Walck, Ph.D.
PPG Industries, Inc.
Glass Technology Center
P. O. Box 11472 (letters)
Guys Run Rd. (packages)
Pittsburgh, PA 15238-0472

Walck-at-PPG.com

(412) 820-8651 (office)
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-----Original Message-----
} From: Roberson, Michael (M) [mailto:MRoberson-at-dow.com]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 9:07 AM
To: 'Microscopy-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com'



Does anyone happen to know in what issue of microscopy Today the
following information on sharpening W needles was found? (or how to make
them) If so please send me a note at, MRoberson-at-dow,com

I don't know about the current crop of FE cathodes, but in the past an
electrolytic cell was set up with the W needle as part of the circuit.
The needle was slowly dipped and removed several times from the NaOH
electrolyte. Essentially, it was the same technique as was (and is)
used to produce micomanipulator needles. I think the set-up was shown
and described well in a Microscopy Today article within the past 12 months.

Michael Roberson
(517)636-8656
SMX
Analytical Sciences
Midland, MI 48667



From daemon Fri Jun 15 10:16:05 2001



From: Glen MacDonald :      glenmac-at-u.washington.edu
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:09:38 -0700
Subject: Re: printers

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I installed the Lyson grayscale inks in our Epson 850N. The results are
sometimes amazing, but always at least good.

Optimal results is greatly affected by paper type and quality, it seems more
so than printing color. You will also need to fiddle with the colorspace
gamma. Sorry I can't give more details, but I haven't had time to work with
it too much since most people here are printing color. I think it has a great
deal of promise and is worth checking out. The Lyson website has a number of
tips and print comparisons for optimizing results.

As far as choosing printers, find people who have used any particular model.
Epsons are slow to start printing. Out of the 4 epsons I work with (3 850N, 1
3000) and another 3 in a colleague's lab. at least 1, often 2, are misfeeding
paper, engaging in randoms acts of stubborness, dropping off the network,
etc. The 3000 is extremely touchy about how you load the paper, backing
sheets, etc., and regularly soils itself with ink. Epson drivers have
improved - sometimes, they even allow use to automatically scale to fit the
page at print time. However, 2 of the 850N printers hasve never failed,
always ready to go, so these problems probably reflect Epson QC issues..

Regards,
Glen

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} I haven't actually seen it in action but it looks like it should be good
} for B/W prints. The advertising samples on the web site look very
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} required. The product consists of the replacement cartridges and the
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} Has anyone actually tried this approach?
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} Cheers,
} Henk Colijn
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} At 12:00 AM 6/15/01 -0500, treese wrote:
}
} } We are going to replace our old Epson InkJet printer which produces nice
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} } HP for electron microscopists and wondered if a clear preference for one
} } of these, or maybe another mfg or technology has emerged. We want B+W
} } quality and reliability, and are willing to pay a bit more,and sacrifice
} } speed and color quality...Thanks...Tom Reese
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From: Smartech :      smartech-at-javanet.com
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I have always used Epson and have never been disappointed with its best
performance, but I do have an occasional problem with banding. I am on my
third model, an Epson stylus 900, over the last 6 years. It is of the 1440
DPI Varity. Now they have 2880, although I am usually happy with 720DPI. I
get the impression that HP's asset is reliability. HP has not focused on
photo image quality as much as Epson, but both printers have surpassed the
photo-realistic hurdle a few years ago, not to say that they are as good as
film of' course. It would be interesting to buy both, do a side by side
comparison and send the one that fails back. Let me know what you find.

On a side note I have been playing around with wide format prints. There is
some good in printing larger hard copies and scanning at lower magnification
to get a better representation of the surface, but where the limits are I
don't know.

Don't write off speed too much. Speed usually only comes at the cost of
dollars, not quality with these inkjets. I like USB as well, may be faster.

Ric

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Tom -

I've gotten quite passionate about marine invertebrate macrophotography as
a retirement project (see the URL below if you like such things). I have a
lot of prints on display in various local educational venues, so I've been
very concerned with print longevity - at a reasonable cost, since I buy the
equipment with my own $$$. I suggest that you look at
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/1280.htm
for a critical review of the Epson 1280. Epson's 6-color process is
supposed to give 25-year color prints & 100-year B&W (see
http://www.wilhelm-research.com/). I've just bought a closeout 1270, for
$250; 1440 dpi rather than 2880, but what a deal!

Caroline



Caroline Schooley
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From daemon Fri Jun 15 11:23:44 2001



From: Gib Ahlstrand :      giba-at-puccini.cdl.umn.edu
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:59:25 -0500
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Thank you for all your replies to my question regarding oil red O. Here is
my attempt to summarize those replies (and resulting discussions) starting
with the earliest reply. Please forgive the haphazard manner of
organization.

Jaclynn Lett, Research Assistant jlett-at-cid.wustl.edu

Faye and Carl Simons Center for Biology of Hearing and Deafness
Central Institute for the Deaf
4560 Clayton Avenue
St. Louis, MO 63110

voice: 314.977.0257 fax: 314.977-0030
Jaclynn M. Lett, Research Assistant
jlett-at-cid.wustl.edu

Faye and Carl Simons Center for Biology of Hearing and Deafness
Central Institute for the Deaf
4560 Clayton Avenue
St. Louis, MO 63110

voice: 314.977.0257 fax: 314.977.0030

Ms. Allan-Wojtas,

In response to your request regarding oil red O lipid staining, here are the
replies I received (along with some discussions as well). I have not had
time to thoroughly digest everything myself, so please forgive the delay
with which I replied and the lenghthy and unorganized manner of compiling
the replies (listed in the order in which they were received).

Jaclynn M. Lett, Research Assistant
jlett-at-cid.wustl.edu

Faye and Carl Simons Center for Biology of Hearing and Deafness
Central Institute for the Deaf
4560 Clayton Avenue
St. Louis, MO 63110

voice: 314.977.0257 fax: 314.977.0030


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} Has anyone used Oil Red O to stain lipids in tissues embedded in plastics
} (Epon or Epon-Araldite)? If so, has this been done by staining en bloc or
} by staining the sections. Sections would range from 1-4 microns in
} thickness.

After the tissue is embedded, the solvents used (alcohol, propylene oxide)
will have dissolved most or all of the lipids so there will not be much to
stain. If you stain before embedding, dehydration will remove the lipid and
the stain.

} We would also consider tissues embedded in glycol methacrylate.

Forget it if you are using alcohol (or acetone) for dehydration. I don't
know
of any dehydrating agents that will not remove lipids. Perhaps freeze drying
would work, but you still need an embedding media that won't dissolve
lipids.
Even after osmium, some lipid is lost in dehydration.

} We'd like
} to avoid frozen sections because we'd prefer the higher level of detail
} possible with plastic.

So would a lot of us! This is why frozen sections are used for lipid
staining.

Geoff
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The lipids will be removed by the solvents used in processing. In tissues
post fixed with osmium tetroxide BEFORE embedding in these plastics, the
osmium will stain lipids black.

Gayle Callis
MT,HT,HTL(ASCP)
Histopathology Supervisor
Veterinary Molecular Biology
Montana State University - Bozeman
Bozeman MT 59717-3610

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The problem with trying to do lipid staining in epon or plastic embedded
tissue is that inorder to embed in epon or gma you usually have to process
in solvents which will dissolve the lipids not to mention that the plastic
itself is a solvent, at least GMA is somewhat.

Patsy Ruegg
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I don't know anyone who has been able to "successfully" stain enbloc or
sections from resins with oil red O, Sudan black or any of the other common
lipid stains because the solvents used in the processing are all designed to
remove fats and lipids. The only way I could get true accurate staining was
with cryo sections. I have tried so many methods/ resin schedules/ types of
resin and the same problems always occur, if there is enough lipid remaining
to stain, it doesn't give a true representation of location and quantity.
I'm sorry if this doesn't help, other than to perhaps save you some time and
effort.
As always, if you do happen to find someone who swears by their method, I
would love you to email me a copy of it.
Cheers,
Kerrie

Kerrie Holmes
Histology, Microscopy Research
Research Division, Peter MacCallum Cancer Institute
Locked Bag #1 A'Beckett St. East Melbourne 8006
Phone: 9656 1244 / 1242 Fax: 9656 1411
Email: k.holmes-at-pmci.unimelb.edu.au
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I do alot of samples in GMA and have tried oil red O on a couple of
occasions with no luck. I would be very interested to know if anyone has
done this and using what method. Good luck.
Regards
Liz

Elizabeth Cox
Fisheries Biologist
Queensland Department of Primary Industries
Northern Fisheries Centre
PO Box 5396
Cairns, Queensland, Australia 4870
Fax: 07 4035 1401
Ph: 07 4035 0158
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Has anyone used Oil Red O to stain lipids in tissues embedded in
plastics
(Epon or Epon-Araldite)? If so, has this been done by staining en
bloc or
by staining the sections. Sections would range from 1-4 microns in
thickness.



A couple of people so far have commented on how hard this would be, and our
experience agrees with theirs.
HOWEVER Jaclynn also said:



We would also consider tissues embedded in glycol methacrylate.
We'd like
to avoid frozen sections because we'd prefer the higher level of
detail
possible with plastic.



In THAT case things look better! Would you settle for Sudan black, rather
than Oil red staining of the lipid? If 'yes' then there is a method - which
does indeed show even tiny droplets of lipid very clearly. This was worked
out by the one-time king of GMA staining Peter Gerrits, and can be found in
J
Neurosci Methods, as follows:

Gerrits PO, Brekelmans-Bartels M, Mast L, 's-GrAavenmade EJ, Horobin
RW and Holstege G. (1992)..
Staining myelin and myelin-like degradation products in the spinal
cords of chronic experimental
allergic encephalomyelitis (Cr-EAE) rats using Sudan Black B staining
of glycol methacrylate-embedded
material.
J. Neuroscience Methods. 45, 99-105

Bye - Richard Horobin

Institute of Biomedical & Life Sciences, University of Glasgow
T direct 01796-474 480 --- E RichardWHorobin-at-aol.com
"What should we expect? Everything."
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Richard-

Whenever I've worked with those plastics, there has always been a clearing
stage through acetone. Since acetone would remove all non-bound fat, Oil
Red O would have nothing to go into.

When I've worked with these plastics, I also did a post-fixation in osmium
tetroxide, which does a very good job of staining fats and lipid (it turns
them black). Perhaps this would work for your purposes.

Joe

Joseph A. Saby, BA, HT(ASCP)
Drug Safety Evaluation
Pfizer Global Research and Development
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Ann Arbor, MI 48105
Phone: (734)-622-3631
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Certain stains for light microscopy are not usable if you are trying
to stain for lipid and increase resolution of the sectioned tissue. One has
to adjust one's thinking and look only at how lipid can be preserved AND
processed into a plastic, which involves solvents such as alcohol during the
dehydration and infiltration steps.
If you are an experienced EM person, you have probably noticed that
lipid has been seen as a green color in your semithin secions. If you look
at Toluidine Blue stained semithin sections, lipid remains green, and the
nuclei and cytoplasm are blue. The resolution of epoxy and the green color
allows for subcellular identification of lipid.

HOWEVER, the preservation of lipid by osmium can be greatly enhanced
by p-phenylenediamine (use carefully, it can cause contact dermatitis and
asthma). Osmicate normal time, then start you dehyration procedure 25%,
50%,then put tissue in a 1.0% p-phenylenediamine in 70% ethanol for 15-25
minutes, then finish dehydratation procedure as normal, up to 100% ethanol,
into ethanol/propylene oxide, etc....Semithin (1-4u)sections without any
additional staining will show lipid by light microscopy. If needed,
counterstain nuclei with methylene blue stain or Toluidine Blue.

Glycol methacry. would not work, because none of the lipid will
remain, due to the alcohols used in processing. Only osmication, and
especially post- osmication treatment of tissue with p-phenylenediamine
perserves and stablizes lipid so it doesn't wash out during dehyration
steps.

Good Luck!

Karen Jensen, M.S.
Associate Scientist and Project Manager
University of Rochester Medical Center
Electron Microscope Research Core
Pathology and Lab. Med.
Rochester, NY 14642
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Years ago I prepared a demonstration slide of testes for the Leydig cells
that came from a conventional EM block, Glut/Cacod and Osmium. 1 micron
section stained with Sudan black then Toluidine blue. Beautiful result but
it was only a one-off, although something I'll try again if needed.
Ian.

Dr. Ian Montgomery,
West Medical Building,
University of Glasgow,
Glasgow,
G12 8QQ.
Tel: 0141 339 8855. Extn:6602.
Fax: 0141 330 2923
e-mail: ian.montgomery-at-bio.gla.ac.uk
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A question: is this really the case? Osmium binds across double-bonds
of lipids, which is why it shows and preserves membranes, but it
binds poorly or not all at to saturated lipids. So I wouldn't expect
OsO4 to show fatty deposits if the fats are saturated. Oil Red O and
Sudan Black, which more mix into the lipids and don't react with
them, would show fat deposits that OsO4 doesn't, and are better fat
stains.

Phil

} Agreed, there would be no need to do special fat stains if the tissue is
} processed with osmium. In fact, this can be done for paraffin embedding as
} well to show fat distribtion in some diseases with vastly better morphology
} and localization than frozen sections.
}
} Tim Morken
} CDC, Atlanta
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Do you have any fixed, unprocessed tissues to work with?? If so, do
frozens on them instead of your blocks. This is what all the ORO protocols
that I have say to do, which makes sense when you consider that all
processing will subject the tissues to lipid solvents, thus all or most of
the lipids will have been removed and plastics are especially good lipid
solvents.

Connie McManus
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The block was post fixed with osmium tetroxide/cacodylate then stained with
Sudan black. It was only a wee trial just to see what happened. At the time
I naively thought that the Sudan black must be binding to the osmium fixed
fat. It was only a once of on a single slide. I stained another slide with
Toluidine blue/Pyronine Y and it was just as lovely. Goodness knows what the
answer was. At the time I used to try all sorts of staining combinations on
semi-thin Glut/Osmium resin sections. Some were awful but others showed
promise, unfortunately time didn't permit further investigation.
The best staining for Glut/Osmium resin sections, in our hands was
Toluidine Blue/Pyronine Y (Ito & Winchester 1963 J. Cell Biol) and a
Polychrome technique (Pasyk, Bartok & Fabry 1989 Stain Technol 64 (3) 149.
Ian.

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MicroListers,

This is a timely topic for me. We are getting a new chiller for our two EM's
and I'm reconsidering what to use in it. For over 20 years I've run them
with tap water and a dusting of dichlorophene fungicide on the surface of
the water in the tank, which powder slowly dissolves into the water. Have
had no problems at all with corrosion, plugged up lines (well, only ONCE,
when I'd failed to add fungicide after water change), so I'm inclined to
keep doing that, pending manufacturer's recommendations when I get the new
chiller.

However, other voices have advised using 10% propylene glycol (pure stuff,
NOT as in automobile anti-freeze) in de-ionized water.

Would like to revisit the pro's and con's of each method.

Thanks for your advice, in advance,

Gib Ahlstrand



} Haixin,
} I've found that using distilled or de-ionised water in the chiller in
} addition to the measures already suggested will also greatly reduce the
} growth of microorganisms by denying them nutrients.
}
} Regards,
} Eric lachowski

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From daemon Fri Jun 15 12:19:56 2001



From: wft03-at-health.state.ny.us
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:15:30 -0400
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Just out of curiousity. . . how much X-radiation penetrates the rubber
stopper?

Marie

Dear Marie,
The short answer is, "Nearly all of it." The flux of x-rays depends
on such parameters as the location of the stopper with respect to things in
the column which can scatter the incident beam, produce brehmsstrahlung,
etc. The easiest thing to do is to take a counter and make the
measurement. For x-rays, the appropriate detector is an ionization
chamber, such as a hand-held QT-Pi; however, a Geiger counter can also be
used to give a relative measurement between the original set-up and that
with the stopper.
Yours,

Bill Tivol
Wadsworth Center
Albany NY
(518) 473-7399 WFT02-at-health.state.ny.us



From daemon Fri Jun 15 12:29:57 2001



From: George Laing :      scisales-at-ngscorp.com
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:23:08 -0400
Subject: RE: printers

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Luminos http://www.lumijet.com/mono.htm also has quadtone inksets
for many Epson printers. With any of the quadtone type ink systems, you
will really need to dedicate the printer to printing only black and white.
It is impractical to switch between color and monochrome ink sets as
the printer needs to be flushed out before each switch.

I have seen some "fine art" photo samples printed with this ink
system and the results are stunning.

George

George Laing
National Graphic Supply
v:(518) 438-8411 X3109
f:(518) 438-0940
email: scisales-at-ngscorp.com
}
} Tom,
}
} I have seen a retrofit for Epson printers that looks quite interesting at
}
} http://www.piezography.com/
}
} I haven't actually seen it in action but it looks like it should be good
} for B/W prints. The advertising samples on the web site look very
} nice. Basically they replace the color cartridges with different
} densities of black ink. By allowing gray inks, they reduce the amount of
} dithering required. The product consists of the replacement cartridges
and the
} revised printer driver software.
}
} Has anyone actually tried this approach?
}
} Cheers,
} Henk Colijn



From daemon Fri Jun 15 12:53:12 2001



From: Garry Burgess :      GBurgess-at-exchange.hsc.mb.ca
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:46:54 -0500
Subject: RE: Algae in water chiller

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That stuff that they use in waterbeds to avoid algae works wonders in these
chillers.



From daemon Fri Jun 15 13:09:13 2001



From: Smartech :      smartech-at-javanet.com
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:16:58 -0400
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I too have heard this tick from a company in long Island NY. I called, got
sample prints, looked good, but I could tell better with my own images. It
also might be cheaper since you can do continuous feed on some Epson
products and buy ink in bulk.

-----Original Message-----
} From: Hendrik O. Colijn [mailto:colijn.1-at-osu.edu]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 8:09 AM
To: treese; Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


Tom,

I have seen a retrofit for Epson printers that looks quite interesting at

http://www.piezography.com/

I haven't actually seen it in action but it looks like it should be good
for B/W prints. The advertising samples on the web site look very
nice. Basically they replace the color cartridges with different densities
of black ink. By allowing gray inks, they reduce the amount of dithering
required. The product consists of the replacement cartridges and the
revised printer driver software.

Has anyone actually tried this approach?

Cheers,
Henk Colijn


At 12:00 AM 6/15/01 -0500, treese wrote:

} We are going to replace our old Epson InkJet printer which produces nice
} B+W prints of micrographs, when it works. I haven't kept up with Epson vs
} HP for electron microscopists and wondered if a clear preference for one
} of these, or maybe another mfg or technology has emerged. We want B+W
} quality and reliability, and are willing to pay a bit more,and sacrifice
} speed and color quality...Thanks...Tom Reese

Hendrik O. Colijn colijn.1-at-osu.edu
Campus Electron Optics Facility Ohio State University
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Fools are pleased when they discover error.
The wise are pleased when they discover truth.





From daemon Fri Jun 15 13:38:29 2001



From: wft03-at-health.state.ny.us
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:33:22 -0400
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Fortunately, the EDS port is to the rear of the column and pointing upward.

Dear Earl,
Fortunate for the user; however, an often-neglected aspect of
radiation shielding is that sufficiently energetic x-rays will penetrate
floors and ceilings as well as walls, so check with the folks upstairs if
you have a TEM--especially an IVEM or HVEM.
Yours,

Bill Tivol
Wadsworth Center
Albany NY
(518) 473-7399 WFT02-at-health.state.ny.us



From daemon Fri Jun 15 13:57:27 2001



From: wft03-at-health.state.ny.us
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:53:23 -0400
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I'd love some feed-back from someone who knows radiation because I've
felt that applying TEM rules to SEMs is gross over-kill, especially with
so many color monitors around. How often do you have your decelerating
grid checked for proper operation? If it doesn't operate correctly,
your exposure could be very dangerous, given the time that one sits in
front of these things and their distance from your face.

If I'm way off base, I'd like to know and know why.

Dear Ken,
I think I qualify as someone who knows radiation, so here goes. Yes,
TEMs and SEMs are different, but the standards for stray radiation should
be the same. It is a lot easier to meet the standards with a low-voltage,
low-current machine, so the necessary shielding for a SEM would be less
difficult than for a TEM, but there should still be less than the specified
x-ray flux at the surface of the column. The Electron Microscopy Safety
Handbook (2nd Ed., 1994), p 49 gives a standard set by the Radiation
Control for Health and Safety Act of 1968 as 0.5 mR/hr at 5 cm from the
surface of the column. I am not aware of any update of this standard, but
if there is, the exposure allowed would surely be lower. A hand-held
ionization chamber can be used to measure the radiation from both the
microscope and the color monitors.
Yours,

Bill Tivol
Wadsworth Center
Albany NY
(518) 473-7399 WFT02-at-health.state.ny.us



From daemon Fri Jun 15 14:45:38 2001



From: Don Grimes :      microtoday-at-mindspring.com
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:23:19 -0500
Subject: W needles

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Hi Michael,
I believe that the article in Microscopy Today that you are looking for is
"Preparation And Use Of Needles and Micropipets For Handling Very Small
Particles" by Anna Teetsov of McCrone Research Institute. It is a 4-pager
that I am faxing to you.
I would be pleased to fax copies to anyone else on the list that would like
a copy.
Best to all,
Don Grimes, Microscopy Today

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} From: Roberson, Michael (M) [mailto:MRoberson-at-dow.com]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 8:07 AM
To: 'Microscopy-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com'



Does anyone happen to know in what issue of microscopy Today the
following information on sharpening W needles was found? (or how to make
them) If so please send me a note at, MRoberson-at-dow,com

I don't know about the current crop of FE cathodes, but in the past an
electrolytic cell was set up with the W needle as part of the circuit.
The needle was slowly dipped and removed several times from the NaOH
electrolyte. Essentially, it was the same technique as was (and is)
used to produce micomanipulator needles. I think the set-up was shown
and described well in a Microscopy Today article within the past 12 months.

Michael Roberson
(517)636-8656
SMX
Analytical Sciences
Midland, MI 48667




From daemon Fri Jun 15 15:04:33 2001



From: wft03-at-health.state.ny.us
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:00:21 -0400
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I have some problems with our EM chillers. The water in EM cooling
circulation is bad contaminated by algae, bacteria, maybe more
microorganisms. Does somebody here know some water cleaner for chillers of
EM? Appreciate for the help.

Dear Haixin,
We use dichlorophene to prevent the growth of micro-organisms, but you
may also need to remove those which are already in your system. The
appropriate cleaner will depend on what the components of the system are
made of. If you can disassemble and clean out the hoses, lenses, and
chiller separately, you would probably be able to get things cleaner, but
it could be a big effort. Cu++ is toxic to algae, and will not usually
damage metals, so you might want to circulate a solution of CuSO4, pH
adjusted to ~8 through the lenses if the lines are constricted within the
lenses. Good luck.
Yours,

Bill Tivol
Wadsworth Center
Albany NY
(518) 473-7399 WFT02-at-health.state.ny.us



From daemon Fri Jun 15 16:26:05 2001



From: Marilyn Howton :      mhowton-at-hsc.wvu.edu
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:19:29 -0400
Subject: RE:Little survey ..EMwise

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} } } } 700 { { { { {

Whew!
I am the only one in our EM lab. About 90 - 100 Kidney/surgical/autopsy specimens a year. About 30 or so research specimens a year. Not overworked here, but sure wish I had some backup, as vacations or sick days are a nightmare. I come in all hours, too.

Marilyn Howton
EM lab
Pathology Department
WVUniv. Hospitals



From daemon Fri Jun 15 16:50:51 2001



From: Philip Oshel :      peoshel-at-facstaff.wisc.edu
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:51:22 -0500
Subject: Sycon Instruments

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Does anyone have a current email address for Sycon Instruments
(makers of film thickness monitors)?
Their web site is still up, but with a 1998 date, and the group
listed as maintaining the site is apparently defunct. No email
addresses are listed on the Sycon web site.

Thanks.

Phil
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Department of Animal Sciences
University of Wisconsin
1675 Observatory Drive
Madison, WI 53706 - 1284
voice: (608) 263-4162
fax: (608) 262-5157 (dept. fax)


From daemon Sat Jun 16 10:13:29 2001



From: RangeTS-at-aol.com
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:04:49 -0500
Subject: cambridge 240

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Hello All,

I have been looking for a set of schematics for cambridge 240. I am
wondering if anyone has any technical information for this instrument.

Best regards,
Ben Ghaffari
Email: Rangets-at-aol.com


From daemon Sat Jun 16 10:13:34 2001



From: Ken Tiekotter :      tiekotte-at-up.edu
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:07:17 -0500
Subject: 7cm x 7cm em 4489 film

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I recently got rid of 2 Zeiss EM 9s2 microscopes and am interested in
finding if there is anyone out there who is interested in buying 4489 EM
film for a Zeiss 9s2? I have aluminum cassettes, steel cassettes and ~10
boxes of film I wish to sell.

Please respond via my email address!

Cheers!
Ken
------------
Ken Tiekotter, Adjunct Professor
The University of Portland
Dept. of Biology
5000 N. Willamette Blvd.
Portland, OR 97203

email: tiekotte-at-up.edu


From daemon Sat Jun 16 11:08:36 2001



From: STANSMAN-at-aol.com
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:28:41 EDT
Subject: Light Microscopy Imaging Contest

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Fortunately, in my lab, the administration was upstairs so not held in high
regard & the original question was for an SEM.

In addition, the rubber stopper solution was meant to be a temporary
situation.
Given that the maximum 25 - 30 KV X-rays need to penetrate several layers of
aluminum foil as well as concrete floor I doubt that it poses a health risk.
We had this situation at the last lab I worked & the Safety Department
measured the X-ray output and gave it a clean bill of health.
Not a good permanent situation but OK for the month or two.

Best Regards,

Earl




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To: {microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com}
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 11:33 AM


Hello Microscopists,

We all work very hard at producing beautiful and relevant microscope images.
Now is your chance to submit your finest images to the "Small World 2001"
contest. This is the 26th year for the famous contest that results in a
beautiful calendar showcasing the winners.

The closing date for submitting your images is June 29th, 2001. This
can now be accomplished easily and quickly via the
http://www.microscopyu.com/smallworld/ website.

There's still time to enter this famous optical photomicrography
competition which is open to both professional and amateur
microscopists; 35mm slide and/or digital entries of images taken with any
kind
of light microscope are accepted. Follow this link -

http://www.microscopyu.com/smallworld/

to learn more about the contest, see the fabulous prizes available, obtain
your "Small
World Screen Saver" of last years winners and view some of the stunning
images that have won in the past.

Also take time to browse the MicroscopyU host
site which has a wealth of exciting microscopy tutorials and resources.
Follow the
host link by typing this address into your browser -

http://www.microscopyu.com/


Good Luck and Best Regards,

Stan Schwartz
Manager, BioScience Dept.
Nikon Instruments Inc.
1300 Walt Whitman Rd.
Melville, NY 11747
Phone: 631-547-8529
Fax: 631-547-4033
email: sschwartz-at-nikon.net
www.nikonusa.com
Check out Nikon's Educational Website
www.microscopyU.com



From daemon Sat Jun 16 14:39:51 2001



From: jim quinn :      jquinn-at-doL1.eng.sunysb.edu
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 15:31:48 -0400
Subject: Tina's SEM images in NYTimes

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A nice plug for Tina's web pages from the NYTimes.

NYTimes 06-14-01


What You Can't See Microscopically

By SHELLY FREIERMAN

If you like to ponder questions
on the scale of how many Web
sites can fit on the head of a pin,
there is a fine collection of
electron microscope images to
examine at MicroAngela, an
online collection
(www.pbrc.hawaii.edu/bemf/microangela).
The Web site is maintained by
Tina M. Carvalho, the supervisor
at the Biological Electron
Microscope Facility at the
University of Hawaii in Manoa.

She has taken the images of tiny
bugs, bacteria, mold, parasites and
grains of sand, and colored them.

There is a description for each of the objects, which were collected
from captured insects; from samples of ocean life, like tubeworms
and coral; and even from mold growing on some Romano cheese in
Ms. Carvalho's refrigerator.


From daemon Sat Jun 16 15:37:41 2001



From: Dr. Edgar Voelkl :      mm2002-at-ornl.gov
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:32:39 -0400
Subject: M&M 2002

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Dear fellow microscopists,

As indicated earlier (5-13-2001), I am soliciting suggestions for
symposia for the year 2002. So far we had very good response and I
am confident that the program for 2002 will be excellent. However,
before the program will be finalized, I would like to once more ask
for your idea for a great topic in any of the areas of

"Physical Sciences"
"Biological Sciences"
"Advances in Instrumentation and Techniques"

The deadline for suggestions is June 30th 2001. Please contact me
with your suggestions before June 30th under the following address:

mm2002-at-ornl.gov

Please forward this request also to your colleagues. Thank you for
your support.

With best regards,

Edgar Voelkl
Program Chair M&M 2002
--

___________________________

Dr. Edgar Voelkl
Program Chair M&M 2002

Oak Ridge National Laboratory
P.O. Box 2008
Bldg 4515
Oak Ridge, TN 37830-6064

Tel.: (865) 574-8181
Fax: (865) 574-4913


From daemon Sun Jun 17 04:32:21 2001



From: Allen R. Sampson :      ars-at-sem.com
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 04:26:49 -0500
Subject: RE: printers

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I've had Epson and Lexmark printers in the past, but can't say enough about
the HP Photosmart 1215 I've recently purchased. I've always had paper feed
problems with the Epson and Lexmark printers I've used, and noticed that
the HP I used on my home computer didn't have those problems. I decided to
try an HP printer for my business computer and chose this one. For both
color and grayscale images, I find it to be the closest to photographic
quality that I've tried (I used to do professional photography in the arts
field and did all of my own developing and printing).

The only caveat is that grayscale images should be printed in color mode -
black only prints in 600 x 600 resolution while color prints in 2400 x
1200.

This printer includes a separate 4 x 6 inch paper feed tray that is
excellent for small prints.

On Friday, June 15, 2001 12:00 AM, treese [SMTP:treese-at-marinebio.mbl.edu]
wrote:
} ------------------------------------------------------------------------
} }
} We are going to replace our old Epson InkJet printer which produces
} nice B+W prints of micrographs, when it works. I haven't kept up
} with Epson vs HP for electron microscopists and wondered if a clear
} preference for one of these, or maybe another mfg or technology has
} emerged. We want B+W quality and reliability, and are willing to pay
} a bit more,and sacrifice speed and color quality...Thanks...Tom Reese
}


Allen R. Sampson, Owner
Advanced Research Systems
317 North 4th. Street
St. Charles, Illinois 60174
voice 630.513.7093 fax 630.513.7092



From daemon Mon Jun 18 00:58:47 2001



From: Ritchie Sims :      r.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:49:29 GMT+1200
Subject: RE: printers

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}
} I've had Epson and Lexmark printers in the past, but can't say
} enough about the HP Photosmart 1215 I've recently purchased. I've
} always had paper feed problems with the Epson and Lexmark printers
} I've used, and noticed that the HP I used on my home computer didn't
} have those problems. I decided to try an HP printer for my business
} computer and chose this one.


Yeah, maybe, but boy, don't extend this to all HP printers.

I used to have at home an HP 400 inkjet, the cheapie, which kept on
giving paper-feed problems until I donated it to the repair shop
rather than fix it a second time, now, at work, I have a Laserjet 6L
that often feeds thru up to 10 sheets at a time!

I can't load up the input stack, have to insert each sheet to be
printed, one at a time.

It seems to me that the HP problem is that, in order to keep the
footprint small, the paper has to turn almost 180 degrees in a tight
circle.

The 6L has at the moment ANOTHER paper jam that I feel too
angry to fix, it's been jammed now for two days but I'd rather print
to the network printer and walk down the hall to retreive the
printout than pull it apart AGAIN.

If I had an outside window I'd be tempted to throw the *!-at-#$% printer
through it....................................


cheers

rtch

Dr Ritchie Sims Phone : 64 9 3737599 ext 7713
Department of Geology Fax : 64 9 3737435
The University of Auckland email : r.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz
Private Bag 92019
Auckland
New Zealand


From daemon Mon Jun 18 08:11:51 2001



From: Haixin Xu :      xu-at-gl.umbc.edu
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:04:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: water cleaner for EM chiller

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Hi Lister,

Thank you all very much for the reply of my question. I think I figoured
out how to deal the problem.

Haixn Xu

Biological Sciences/UMBC
Baltimore Maryland


On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Beauregard wrote:

} Hi,
}
} Chloramine-T can be used to kill or prevent the bacteria but it will cause
} corrosion problems with some instruments over time. This is especially
} true of
} stainless steel fittings where pit corrosion can become a very serious
} problem and it was for us. The manufacturer recommended using pure
} distilled water in our TEM. We didn't do what the service people said
} because we never had the problem with our other instruments in our wing of
} the building with C-T. We fixed our problem by using some manufacturer
} supplied brass fittings. We also switched to de-ionized water. It worked
} fine.
}
} Anyway, you could kill them with C-T, flush the system completely and then
} switch to pure distilled or de-ionized water. Check with your serviceman
} for the recommended material to use.
}
} After flushing, you can monitor the chloride level and the available
} chlorine to be sure you have removed the chloramine-T. You can use a
} swimming poll test kit for available chlorine and 0.1N silver nitrate
} solution for testing for chloride ions.
}
} After flushing and switching to pure distilled water our corrosion problem
} has not surfaced in over 8 years. We have about 10 instruments on our
} recirculator system.
}
} One further note. You can get a blue-green to green color in the water and
} inside the water lines. This can be copper ions or a green carbonate,
} like copper carbonate. Check any transparent PE or PP lines to see if they
} have a
} coating inside them of green copper carbonate. I did this on our Edwards
} 306 evaporator because it had transparent water lines on the DP. This
} color was thought to be algae but it was not algae alone. You can scrape
} off some of the coating and under a microscope apply hydrochloric acid.
} Look for any bubble generation to confirm the possible presence of copper
} carbonate. Of course, the bubbles could be another material like calcium
} carbonate but it would not ordinarily be greenish. Remove one of the lines
} if you can, add dilute HCl, wait for the line to 'clear' and run the acidic
} liquid into a test tube. If it's blue, you probably have copper ions and
} most likely copper carbonate deposits. We did. The copper can be
} confirmed by atomic absorption if necessary.
}
} Hope this helps.
}
} Paul Beauregard
} Senior Research Associate
} PPG Industries
} Monroeville, PA 15601
}
}
}
} At 05:22 PM 6/14/01 -0400, Haixin Xu wrote:
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} }
} }
} } Hi lister,
} }
} } I have some problems with our EM chillers. The water in EM cooling
} } circulation is bad contaminated by algae, bacteria, maybe more
} } microorganisms. Does somebody here know some water cleaner for chillers of
} } EM? Appreciate for the help.
} }
} } Haixin Xu
} }
} } Biological Sciences
} } University of Maryland, Baltimore County
} } Baltimore, Maryland
} }
} }
} }
} }
}
}



From daemon Mon Jun 18 08:59:08 2001



From: jshields-at-cb.uga.edu
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:54:14 -0400
Subject: RE: W needles

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Hi Don,
I would appreciate a copy, if you wouldn't mind. I have a set-up of
my own, but it is quite the "homemade" variety.

Using this set-up, I have also produce fine blades by using
flattened W wire rather than the rods. Carefully dipping them in a
particular way produces a blade on one side and leaves the other
side as a support for strength. Works well when slicing nematodes.
John Shields
EM Lab
Univ. of GA, Athens


On 15 Jun 2001, at 15:23, Don Grimes wrote:

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} Hi Michael,
} I believe that the article in Microscopy Today that you are looking
} for is "Preparation And Use Of Needles and Micropipets For Handling
} Very Small Particles" by Anna Teetsov of McCrone Research Institute.
} It is a 4-pager that I am faxing to you. I would be pleased to fax
} copies to anyone else on the list that would like a copy. Best to all,
} Don Grimes, Microscopy Today



From daemon Mon Jun 18 12:12:49 2001



From: Philip Oshel :      peoshel-at-facstaff.wisc.edu
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:10:12 -0500
Subject: Re: Sycon Instruments

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List,

Many thanks. I now have the contact information for Sycon Instruments.

Phil
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Philip Oshel
Supervisor, AMFSC and BBPIC microscopy facilities
Department of Animal Sciences
University of Wisconsin
1675 Observatory Drive
Madison, WI 53706 - 1284
voice: (608) 263-4162
fax: (608) 262-5157 (dept. fax)


From daemon Mon Jun 18 12:43:00 2001



From: Dusevich, Vladimir :      DusevichV-at-umkc.edu
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:29:34 -0500
Subject: RE: water cleaner for EM chiller

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I use Chloramine-T from Alfa Aesar (was recommended by
FEI). 1 gramm per gallon.

Vladimir M. Dusevich, Ph.D.
Electron Microscope Lab Manager
3127 School of Dentistry
650 E. 25th Street
Kansas City, MO 64108-2784

Phone: (816) 235-2072
Fax: (816) 235-5524
Web: http://www.umkc.edu/dentistry/microscopy



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}
}
}
} I have some problems with our EM chillers. The water in EM cooling
} circulation is bad contaminated by algae, bacteria, maybe more
} microorganisms. Does somebody here know some water cleaner
} for chillers of
} EM? Appreciate for the help.
}
} Dear Haixin,
} We use dichlorophene to prevent the growth of
} micro-organisms, but you
} may also need to remove those which are already in your system. The
} appropriate cleaner will depend on what the components of the
} system are
} made of. If you can disassemble and clean out the hoses, lenses, and
} chiller separately, you would probably be able to get things
} cleaner, but
} it could be a big effort. Cu++ is toxic to algae, and will
} not usually
} damage metals, so you might want to circulate a solution of CuSO4, pH
} adjusted to ~8 through the lenses if the lines are
} constricted within the
} lenses. Good luck.
} Yours,
}
} Bill Tivol
} Wadsworth Center
} Albany NY
} (518) 473-7399 WFT02-at-health.state.ny.us
}
}


From daemon Mon Jun 18 13:08:01 2001



From: Michael L. Boucher :      mboucher-at-tc.umn.edu
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:06:28 -0500
Subject: Anyone giving away an old Link EDS system?

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We recently acquired an older Link EDS spectrometer and would like to use it
on an old ESEM. But we will need the pulse processor and whatever else to
run the detector. I have heard of people mixing brands and we have some
other EDS systems, but our old Link is presently installed on another scope.
Does anyone have an old Link giveaway or have any thoughts on compatibility
among the EDS systems?
Thanks for any thoughts or assistance.
Mike
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University of MN Fax 612-625-5368
12 Shepherd Labs
100 Union Street S.E.
Minneapolis, MN 55455 http://resolution.umn.edu
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From daemon Mon Jun 18 13:17:53 2001



From: Robert Underwood :      underwoo-at-u.washington.edu
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:12:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Quantifying actin orientation

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This is an update on a possible way of quantifying the orientation of
actin filaments within endothelial cells in culture.

I would like any comments on whether this seems reasonable or if there are
potential problems.

The fluorenscent labelled cells are captured and saved as grayscale
images. A highpass filter is used to enhance the filaments. The filaments
are thresholded and skeletonized. then the branch points are selected and
deleted. This creates many short linear segments whos "moment angle" or
orientation can be measured. There are about a 500 - 1000 measurements per
cell. The histogram of the angles have peaks cooresponding to the dominant
directions of filaments. I am hoping that control and experimental groups
of cells will have appropriatly different histograms.

Does this sound reasonable?

Bob Underwood
U of Washington



From daemon Mon Jun 18 13:30:38 2001



From: Haixin Xu :      xu-at-gl.umbc.edu
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:26:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: how to clean the dust on the mirror

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Hi Listers,

I have a DURST S-45 enlarger that has not been used for a long time. The
mirror is heavily dusted. I want to clean it or want it cleaned. But I am
afraid to damage it if clean it not properly and I do not know where and
who can do the job for me. I am located in Baltimore. I would very much
appreciate your help.

Haixin Xu

Biological Sciences
University of Maryland, Baltimore County
Baltimore, MD 21250



From daemon Mon Jun 18 13:51:18 2001



From: Douglas C. Rennie :      drennie-at-unmc.edu
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:57:45 -0500
Subject: TEM: Ultracut T

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We are looking for a used Ultracut T that is in good/excellent condition.
Please contact Kathleen Greer or Lauren Simmerman if you know of one, -at-
Univ. of Nebraska Med. Cen.
402-559-7729 or
KathleenGreer-at-nhsnet.org

Thank You



From daemon Mon Jun 18 15:49:44 2001



From: Sergey Ryazantsev :      sryazant-at-ucla.edu
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:37:24 -0700
Subject: RE: printers

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Paper jams mostly related to the paper quality (if printer itself is
OK). You may ask manufacturer which particular type of paper is better for
printer or just try different brands. For laser printers it should be
mentioned on the paper that this is for laser. Paper for laser and ink
-jets are opposite: glossy and "full-body" for laser and more porous (to
adsorb inks) for ink-jets. It also important to set correct
paper-thickness on the printer. They usually has thick-medium-thin
settings. It's mechanical switch, which presents on most models.

We do have some LaserJet B&W printer running for 5 years without any
serious problem with paper (heavy loaded, it serves as a network printer
for whole Department). We just bought a new Tektronix Color-laser last
year and it had jam problems near every day. We did change the paper and
it works very good now. Same - for ink-jets.

Sergey

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From daemon Mon Jun 18 16:29:21 2001



From: wft03-at-health.state.ny.us
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:24:18 -0400
Subject: Re: how to clean the dust on the mirror

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I have a DURST S-45 enlarger that has not been used for a long time. The
mirror is heavily dusted. I want to clean it or want it cleaned. But I am
afraid to damage it if clean it not properly and I do not know where and
who can do the job for me. I am located in Baltimore. I would very much
appreciate your help.

Dear Haixin,
I would first remove the mirror (if possible), then gently blow as
much of the dust off it as possible. The concern, of course, is that some
of the dust may consist of mineral particles capable of scratching the
mirror. These should be somewhat denser and more easily removed in an air
stream than some of the other dust components. I would then rinse the
mirror with a stream of water and/or dunk it into a warm detergent
solution, then rinse carefully in distilled water followed by alcohol
and/or acetone. In none of these steps would I wipe the mirror even with a
very soft cloth. After this, I'd check to see how much dust is left. If
none, I'd clean the mirror with optic-wipe cloth, if little, I'd re-rinse
and do so until as much of the dust was removed as possible. I'd then
clean a small area with optic wipe cloth and inspect for scratches, if
none, then I'd clean the rest. Good luck.
Yours,

Bill Tivol
Wadsworth Center
Albany NY
(518) 473-7399 WFT02-at-health.state.ny.us



From daemon Mon Jun 18 17:20:34 2001



From: Robert Mixon :      mixonr-at-ohsu.edu
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:12:58 -0700
Subject: Cleaning Durst S45 front surfaced mirror

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Reply to Haixin Xu: Cleaning is done the same as it would be for a front surfaced telescope mirror as follows: 1) Gently let pure water (distilled or deionized) flow over the mirror. 2) dip several "Q-tip" swabs in a 1:100 diluted solution of Triton X 100. 3) allowing only the weight of the wet"Q-tips" to be the downward force gently pass them over the mirror and rinse with more pure water and allow to dry dust-free. If only traces of dust settle on the mirror you can blow them off gently with canned gas or a rubber bulb duster.



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From: johnsond-at-ns.neiu.k12.pa.us ()
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 01:55:56 -0500
Subject: Ask-A-Microscopist:Bacteria Viewing?

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
(johnsond-at-ns.neiu.k12.pa.us) from
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18, 2001 at 13:44:52
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Email: johnsond-at-ns.neiu.k12.pa.us
Name: Debbie Johnson

Organization: Valley View School District

Education: 6-8th Grade Middle School

Location: Archbald. PA USA

Question: What power of magnification would we need to be able to see
bacteria cells? They are not very clear using the standard classroom
scopes.(400x) Are there microscopes available for classroom use that
have more magnification?

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From: Mendes, Maria :      mmendes-at-mtsinai.on.ca
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 01:58:52 -0500
Subject: Morphometry Users Group?

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Hello everyone,

I was wondering if anyone out there had any information on a morphometry or
image analysis user group that I could get in contact with. Also does anyone
have an interest in a confocal microscope MRC 600 that we are going to
decommission. I would appreciate any information anyone could offer on any
of the above subjects.

Maria


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From: Ron Doole :      ron.doole-at-materials.oxford.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:52:01 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
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Hi Listers,
Is there anyone out there who can help with this request?
Please reply to plant-tc-at-tc.umn.edu.
Thanks,
Priscilla
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Hi Mike,

We have had this done the other way (Link have run another
maker's detector). They had to change the preamp onwards
and ensure that they got the pinout and bias voltage
to the crystal correct (obviously). We have also had
upgrades and they have always changed the preamp with the
pulse processor. What about contacting your local Oxford
Instruments rep. to see what they have from recent part
exchanges or upgrades?

Good luck,
Ron

} We recently acquired an older Link EDS spectrometer and would like to use it
} on an old ESEM. But we will need the pulse processor and whatever else to
} run the detector. I have heard of people mixing brands and we have some
} other EDS systems, but our old Link is presently installed on another scope.
} Does anyone have an old Link giveaway or have any thoughts on compatibility
} among the EDS systems?
} Thanks for any thoughts or assistance.
} Mike
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From: Sergey Ryazantsev :      sryazant-at-ucla.edu
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 03:20:37 -0700
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For EM guys it's not big deal to restore even scratched mirror. Only
limitation is the size of your vacuum evaporator's vacuum chamber.

1. remove old coating (very likely, it was aluminum, if so, use 1N NaON);
2 rinse in d-H2O and dry in clean place;
3. evaporate a new layer of Al (or Cr) using your vacuum evaporator.

The trick: never touch working surface before and after.

Sergey

P.S. Organic solvents may leave the traces even if they are very pure
(alcohol may have the trace of CuSO4 used for dehydratation or something
else). Last step in cleaning should be dd-H2O and drying in very clean
place. Who wear glasses half of life knows, that any organic solvents
leave the traces except detergent and then d-H2O. At least, it's my
experience.

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From: Aarti Harle :      aarti_harle_em-at-usa.net
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Dear Listers,
I want to take the microstructure of 0.75mm wire, which is used by dentist.
Can anyone can guide for the sample preparation of wire for tem.

Arti Harle
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From: Patton, David :      David.Patton-at-uwe.ac.uk
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If we assume your bacteria are 0.000001m long then if you
magnify them x400 they will appear 0.0004m long ie 0.4mm.

So if you would like them to appear, say 400mm long, you
would magnify by x40,000.

There are special microscopes called electron microscopes
which can give you this magnification. We look at
bacteria at x1,000 - x94,000. Your local university will
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From: Jim Nicolino :      JNicolino-at-xraydetectors.com
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:30:31 -0400
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To answer the question of compatability.
The "older Link EDX" is probably an optical reset FET detector if it is
older than 1988. If it is a transistor reset FET ( PentaFet) then it
would have an attribute number on the Dewar label. Therefore when you
are looking for a compatable analyzer you will need to know which FET is
in the detector. The bigger problem is that Link used a software based
Restore signal to reset the FET therefore only a Link analyzer system
will operate the detector. The only present EDX company using a similar
software based Restore signal is Oxford ( Which bought Link Analytical
back in the early 1990's )
The pre-amp on the Link detector could be changed so that the Restore
signal is generated by the pre-amp. This would allow almost any analyzer
system to operate the detector but some compatability issues would still
remain.( Inhibit and Gain )
I hope this answers your question.
Kind Regards,
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From: Sergey Ryazantsev :      sryazant-at-ucla.edu
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:53:58 -0700
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Hello Bill

Did you try Hexane to clean-up EM parts? Hexane, HPLC grade is very nice
for that. As a matter of fact, many organic solvents even very pure has
some additives, which is not listed. It includes the traces of compounds,
which were used during purification process. Very usual contamination -
sort of mineral oil, which comes when you store your stuff in the plastic
bottle (or it was stored somewhere before it comes to you in glass bottle)
- manufacturers use it in press-forms when they make plastic bottles. Any
plastic (even teflon) has some "plastifiers" to make plastic more
flexible. Those compounds does not chemically bonded to the plastic
matrix, so they erode slowly into stored solution. I had a deal with very
precise mirrors from analytical UV centrifuge. Those mirrors has precision
comparable with best telescope mirrors. I find, that many organic solvents
leave traces even if it never happen before on other surface. The mirror
surface, looks like so perfect and reflect easy very tiny imperfection. Of
coarse, I am talking about mirrors with reflecting coating up. As for
fingerprints - any organic solvent should work, I agree with you. Speaking
honestly, in the practical life my precautions may be not necessary. I was
talking in general, that scratches on the mirror is not a problem for
serious electron microscopist.

Thanks for your reply and have a great day.

Sergey.

At 10:20 AM 6/19/01 -0400, you wrote:




} P.S. Organic solvents may leave the traces even if they are very pure
} (alcohol may have the trace of CuSO4 used for dehydratation or something
} else). Last step in cleaning should be dd-H2O and drying in very clean
} place. Who wear glasses half of life knows, that any organic solvents
} leave the traces except detergent and then d-H2O. At least, it's my
} experience.
}
} Dear Sergey,
} d-H2O should leave no residue, but I've seen problems using it as the
} final rinse--probably because it takes a long time to dry, and our air may
} not be that clean. We use acetone as the final rinse on all the metal
} parts of the microscope that go in the vacuum, because it's easier to pump
} down if there is no residual H2O. We also use 95% EtOH to clean the glass
} plates in the Perkin Elmer microdensitometer--it is the best solvent for
} fingerprints--and we do not rinse with H2O afterward. I haven't seen any
} residue problems from either of these solvents.
} Yours,
} Bill



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From: Mike Delannoy :      delannoy-at-mail.jhmi.edu
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:56:35 -0400
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Hello fellow microscopists,
What are the latest advances in confocal microscopy systems? Any
with Dapi or Hoechst detection? What are the pros and cons of PMT vs
Camera acquisitions?
Aperture, Fixed slits or spinning discs? We would appreciate any input.

Thank you
Mike D.



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From: Caroline Schooley :      schooley-at-mcn.org
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:27:43 -0700
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Debbie -

Yes, there are microscopes that will provide an excellent 1000x image. BUT
- they are quite a bit more sophisticated (and expensive) than the scope
that you are using, and they require careful setup to produce a good image.
It's possible that there is a microscopist who reads our ListServer who is
near Archibald who would be willing to visit your class to do a
demonstration. If you are interested, please write again.

You can find a lot of information about bacteria at the American Society
for Microbiology's educational website, http://www.asmusa.org/edusrc/


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I am trying (rather unsuccessfully) to print grayscale images on a
large format color printer. The printer does a superb job with color
images but generates truly unpredictable, bizarre renderings with
grayscale (SEM, TEM) images (greenish/brownish/pinkish tones).

The printer has the option to print using black ink only but,
obviously, no color can be used elsewhere. I have made just about
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I need professional help................. (in many ways).

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I am working on a bacterial protein which are very unstable
polymerisation and depolymerization is within very short time.
I want to do the Atomic Force microscopy for these proteins
What is sample preparation for AFM
And how can I stabilise the protein.

Regards
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From: Paula Allan-Wojtas :      AllanWojtasP-at-em.agr.ca
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Subject: Printers and paper

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Hi, all,

This question has come up for us at a good time, with this ongoing discussion of printers.

We recently purchased an Epson 880 ink jet printer for our EM/LM lab, and are very happy with it. The black and white prints look excellent. We have tried a number of papers, and find that the Epson "Photo Quality Glossy Paper" and "Photo Paper" give the best results for our purposes.

We are wondering how to go about making our prints more permanent from these printers. If the prints have just been printed and aren't dry yet, or if they are dry and are in contact with any moisture, they smudge quite easily. Is there any coating - lamination or spray, or something else which we can use to protect the surface?

In connection with this, we have also found, especially when we have printed b/w prints, that if we leave them in a room with full spectrum fluorescent lights for a few days, that they begin to change colour, and start to take on a reddish tinge. The instructions that came with the paper say to not leave prints exposed to sunlight - but we're talking about room lights, here! Has anyone else found this happens to them, and is there any way of preventing/minimizing this effect without storing prints in a light tight bag????

Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated. As always, thanks for your help in advance.

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From: Battjes, Kevin :      battjes-at-impactanalytical.com
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:04:09 -0400
Subject: Job opening

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Listers,

Impact Analytical has an opening for a microscopist. Interested candidates
are invited to reply.


Job Description for Microscopist
IMPACT Analytical seeks an exceptional technical professional to become a
member of our Microscopy group. The candidate will be expected to provide
outstanding service to our customers on projects in the areas of microtomy,
SEM, TEM, and AFM. The candidate will be responsible for the development of
approaches to solve customer problems, as well as for projects from the time
that samples are received until the final report is written. This will
include communication with the customer with regards to clarifying project
goals and methods, conducting the analysis, updating the status, generating
the report, and following-up on customer requests. Experience in the
microscopy of plastics is a plus.
The ideal candidate will have at a minimum, a B.S. degree and 2 to 5 years
of relevant experience. The candidate should have a sense of urgency, strong
organizational skills, be detail oriented, and have very good laboratory
technique. The candidate should also have excellent oral, verbal, and
interpersonal skills, as well as familiarity with Microsoft based software.
Please respond by e-mail to Ms. Cherie Hutter {mailto:hutter-at-mmi.org} or by
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Kevin Battjes
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Michigan Molecular Institute
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From: Angela Klaus :      avklaus-at-amnh.org
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Hi John...

We've had the same problem on our large format printer. I don't know what
the answer is either. I haven't gotten nearly as far as you have in terms
of troubleshooting, but my next step would be to call the manufacturer
(Epson, in our case). Did your manufacturer have any insight?

Angela V. Klaus

Director, Core Imaging Facility
American Museum of Natural History
Central Park West at 79th Street
New York, NY 10024 USA

Email: avklaus-at-amnh.org
Tel: 212-769-5977


On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, John J. Bozzola wrote:

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} I am trying (rather unsuccessfully) to print grayscale images on a
} large format color printer. The printer does a superb job with color
} images but generates truly unpredictable, bizarre renderings with
} grayscale (SEM, TEM) images (greenish/brownish/pinkish tones).
}
} The printer has the option to print using black ink only but,
} obviously, no color can be used elsewhere. I have made just about
} every color management adjustment imaginable but have come to the
} conclusion that it is not possible to print accurate colors and
} grayscale simultaneously. Is that so?
}
} I need professional help................. (in many ways).
}
} Thank you.
}
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From daemon Wed Jun 20 08:15:09 2001



From: Hendrik O. Colijn :      colijn.1-at-osu.edu
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:08:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Printers and paper

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Paula,

I too have noticed that the cyan ink that Epson uses is not very stable
even under fluorescent lights. However, enclosing a print in a
polyethylene sheet protector seems to improve the stability quite a bit.

Cheers,
Henk

At 07:47 AM 6/20/01 -0400, Paula Allan-Wojtas wrote:

} Hi, all,
}
} This question has come up for us at a good time, with this ongoing
} discussion of printers.
}
} We recently purchased an Epson 880 ink jet printer for our EM/LM lab, and
} are very happy with it. The black and white prints look excellent. We have
} tried a number of papers, and find that the Epson "Photo Quality Glossy
} Paper" and "Photo Paper" give the best results for our purposes.
}
} We are wondering how to go about making our prints more permanent from
} these printers. If the prints have just been printed and aren't dry yet,
} or if they are dry and are in contact with any moisture, they smudge quite
} easily. Is there any coating - lamination or spray, or something else
} which we can use to protect the surface?
}
} In connection with this, we have also found, especially when we have
} printed b/w prints, that if we leave them in a room with full spectrum
} fluorescent lights for a few days, that they begin to change colour, and
} start to take on a reddish tinge. The instructions that came with the
} paper say to not leave prints exposed to sunlight - but we're talking
} about room lights, here! Has anyone else found this happens to them, and
} is there any way of preventing/minimizing this effect without storing
} prints in a light tight bag????
}
} Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated. As always, thanks for
} your help in advance.
}
} Regards,
}
} Paula.
}
} Paula Allan-Wojtas
} Research Scientist - Food Microstructure
} Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada
} Atlantic Food and Horticulture Research Centre
} Kentville, Nova Scotia Canada B4N 1J5
}
} Tel: (902) 679-5566
} FAX: (902) 679-2311
}
} email: allanwojtasp-at-em.agr.ca

Hendrik O. Colijn colijn.1-at-osu.edu
Campus Electron Optics Facility Ohio State University
(614) 292-0674 http://web.ceof.ohio-state.edu
Fools are pleased when they discover error.
The wise are pleased when they discover truth.



From daemon Wed Jun 20 08:30:28 2001



From: hard-at-acsu.buffalo.edu
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:25:33 -0500
Subject: LM Course Announcement

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Course Announcement

Title: Optical Microscopy and Imaging in the Biomedical Sciences

When: October 10 - October 19, 2001

Where: Marine Biology Laboratory, Woods Hole, MA, USA

Tuition: $2150 (Includes room and board, text, handouts, supplies)

Application Deadline: July 25, 2001

Admission application and information:
Carol Hamel, Admissions Coordinator
Marine Biological Laboratory
7 MBL Street
Woods Hole, MA 02543-1015
(508) 289-7401
Internet: admissions-at-mbl.edu
WWW: http://www.mbl.edu (Application forms available via Adobe Acrobat)

Course Director: Colin S. Izzard, State University of New York -at- Albany
Phone: [518] 442 - 4367
EMail: csizzard-at-csc.albany.edu

Course Description:

For Whom:
Designed primarily for research scientists, physicians, postdoctoral
trainees and advanced graduate students in animal, plant, medical and
material sciences. Non-biologists seeking a comprehensive introduction to
microscopy and video-imaging will benefit greatly from this course as well.
There are no specific prerequisites, but an understanding of the basic
principles of optics is desirable. Limited to 24 students.

The eight day course consists of lectures, laboratory demonstrations,
exercises and discussions that will enable the participant to obtain and
interpret microscope images of high quality, to perform quantitative optical

measurements, and to produce photographic and video records for
documentation
and analysis.

Topics to be covered include:
principles of microscope design and image formation
bright field, dark field, phase contrast, polarized light,
differential
interference contrast, interference reflection, and fluorescence
microscopy
confocal scanning microscopy, multiphoton excitation fluorescence
microscopy and image deconvolution
digital image restoration and 3-D reconstruction
video imaging, recording, enhancement, and intensification
analog and digital image processing and analysis
fluorescent probes and ratiometric-imaging
laser tweezers and laser scissors

Applications to live cells will be emphasized; other specimens will be
covered as well.

Students will have direct hands-on experience with state-of-the-art
microscopes, video cameras, recorders and image processing equipment
provided
by major optical and electronics companies. Instruction will be provided by
experienced staff from universities and industry.

Students are encouraged to bring their own biological (primary
cultures, cell lines, etc.) and material specimens and to discuss individual

research problems with the faculty.



From daemon Wed Jun 20 08:42:33 2001



From: swiding :      swiding-at-astro.temple.edu
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:37:41 -0400
Subject: Critical point dryer

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Hello List,

I am trying to repair our Sorvall critical point dryer. I would like to
replace
the needle valve assemblies as they are starting to leak. Does anyone know if
parts are available for this system? If not, we will have to get it replaced.

Thanks for the help,

Steve Widing
Temple University



From daemon Wed Jun 20 09:02:28 2001



From: John Foust :      jfoust-at-threedee.com
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:48:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Poster Printing Grayscale Images

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At 07:37 PM 6/19/01 -0500, John J. Bozzola wrote:
} I am trying (rather unsuccessfully) to print grayscale images on a large format color printer. The printer does a superb job with color images but generates truly unpredictable, bizarre renderings with grayscale (SEM, TEM) images (greenish/brownish/pinkish tones).
} The printer has the option to print using black ink only but, obviously, no color can be used elsewhere. I have made just about every color management adjustment imaginable but have come to the conclusion that it is not possible to print accurate colors and grayscale simultaneously. Is that so?

Which printer, which operating system, and which program is
doing the printing? When you say "color management" what
exactly do you mean that you tried?

Offhand, this sounds more like a function of the printer driver
and the program driving it. The program you're using to print
may only be capable of sending down grey or color at a time.
When it sends color, the grey gets treated (and color-dithered)
as color. In pure grey mode, no color dithering is introduced.

A more sophisticated printing program, such as a desktop
publishing program like Quark, may be capable of driving
the printer in a smarter fashion.

- John



From daemon Wed Jun 20 10:00:01 2001



From: Gib Ahlstrand :      giba-at-puccini.cdl.umn.edu
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:55:03 -0500
Subject: Re: printers,PaperJam

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Ritchie Simsr.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz6/18/01 12:49 PM

Ritchie,

Hey, I hear you, been there and done that! (HP - oi!). Finally, in
desperation I took a sheet of fine emery or sanding cloth to the rubber
rollers that move the paper through the printer - it worked! Try it, be
patient and do every roller you can get to. I've had to do this more than
once, but not often.I think the rollers pick up a "shine" from paper
coatings. Let me know what happens.

Chin up, man!

Gib

Electron Optical Facility, University of Minnesota, CBS Imaging Center,
35 Snyder Hall, St. Paul, MN. USA. 55108 (612)624-3454
(612)625-5754 FAX, giba-at-puccini.cdl.umn.edu
http://www.cbs.umn.edu/ic/


} }
} } I've had Epson and Lexmark printers in the past, but can't say
} } enough about the HP Photosmart 1215 I've recently purchased. I've
} } always had paper feed problems with the Epson and Lexmark printers
} } I've used, and noticed that the HP I used on my home computer didn't
} } have those problems. I decided to try an HP printer for my business
} } computer and chose this one.
}
}
} Yeah, maybe, but boy, don't extend this to all HP printers.
}
} I used to have at home an HP 400 inkjet, the cheapie, which kept on
} giving paper-feed problems until I donated it to the repair shop
} rather than fix it a second time, now, at work, I have a Laserjet 6L
} that often feeds thru up to 10 sheets at a time!
}
} I can't load up the input stack, have to insert each sheet to be
} printed, one at a time.
}
} It seems to me that the HP problem is that, in order to keep the
} footprint small, the paper has to turn almost 180 degrees in a tight
} circle.
}
} The 6L has at the moment ANOTHER paper jam that I feel too
} angry to fix, it's been jammed now for two days but I'd rather print
} to the network printer and walk down the hall to retreive the
} printout than pull it apart AGAIN.
}
} If I had an outside window I'd be tempted to throw the *!-at-#$% printer
} through it....................................
}
}
} cheers
}
} rtch
}
} Dr Ritchie Sims Phone : 64 9 3737599 ext 7713
} Department of Geology Fax : 64 9 3737435
} The University of Auckland email : r.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz
} Private Bag 92019
} Auckland
} New Zealand
}
}

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From daemon Wed Jun 20 11:13:53 2001



From: Pauline C. Yu :      splene-at-pw.usda.gov
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:06:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Poster Printing Grayscale Images

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} I am trying (rather unsuccessfully) to print grayscale images on a
} large format color printer. The printer does a superb job with color
} images but generates truly unpredictable, bizarre renderings with
} grayscale (SEM, TEM) images (greenish/brownish/pinkish tones).
I think this is why color printing is CMYK and not just CMY. We typically
try not to allow the printer to print greyscale images with the color
setting on because of the off-tones. I think there really is no way to
achieve perfect grey with the color cartridges. I wonder if it would be
possible to trick the computer into printing only the greyscale images
with the black cartridge and everything else in color. The other
alternative would be to do a "two-pass" print with one print through on
the grey images, and then reprint again with color. This would be VERY
difficult on a poster printer, but a little easier with one of those
smaller feedthrough inkjet printers.
}
} The printer has the option to print using black ink only but,
} obviously, no color can be used elsewhere. I have made just about
} every color management adjustment imaginable but have come to the
} conclusion that it is not possible to print accurate colors and
} grayscale simultaneously. Is that so?
My only other suggestion is to continue with those color management
solutions--do you have all the color profiles configured from monitor to
printer? You've adjusted the file to CMYK gamut from RGB before printing?
The only other suggestion I can make(short of having the full colorimeter
and spectrophotometer calibration) is to make sure that the CMYK color
settings on the individual greyscale images are all manually adjusted to
absolute neutral.

Pauline Yu
Microscopist Technician
USDA-ARS-WRRC



From daemon Wed Jun 20 12:03:59 2001



From: woxberry-at-downstate.edu
Date: 6/20/01 9:08 AM
Subject: FWD: New Confocal user

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---------------------- Forward Header ----------------------

I am a long time Tem person starting a new job doing both TEM and
LSCM. Its very exciting learning LSCM but I need some suggestions for
ordering probes. Our lab has a Kr/Ar laser and will be doing
neuropathology research, mostly with fixed human brain samples, but
also tissue culture cells both live and fixed. A vibratome is in our
future. I was thinking of ordering alexa488nm-phalloiden, alexa568-
streptavidin, and syto60 from molecular probes to start getting used to
the scope and the lasersharp bio-rad software. The immunohistotech in
the lab uses an ABC dtection system with Dab. The first probe should
contrast the cytoskeleton well(stain F-actin), the second probe will
label any primary Ab, and the third will bind to DNA and contrast the
nucleus. Will using these three probes together be a good starting
point to becoming adept at labeling and producing high quality images
on the LSCM including optical sectioning and 3D (and 4D sometime in the
future)?
I welcome suggestions
Thank you

Bill




From daemon Wed Jun 20 13:29:00 2001



From: Dohnalkova, Alice :      Alice.Dohnalkova-at-pnl.gov
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:20:26 -0700
Subject: Poster Printing Grayscale Images

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John,

we used to have the same problem - the B&W images would come out pinkish. We
contacted HP Software Support about a year ago, and they pointed out that there
isn't any way to isolate a specific image and make it grayscale, leaving the
others in color. They suggested making the image a gray scale before importing
into the document. So far, when staff have copied the image and pasted it right
into the poster (a PowerPoint slide - enlarged to the size of the poster or half
the size of the poster) - it seems to work. However, there were some special
images that a few people had that didn't work. Good luck,

Alice.

Alice Dohnalkova
Dep. of Environmental Microbiology
Battelle, Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
MS P7-50
Richland, WA 99352
tel. (509) 372-0692
fax (509) 376-1321




-----Original Message-----
} From: John J. Bozzola [SMTP:bozzola-at-siu.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 5:37 PM
To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


I am trying (rather unsuccessfully) to print grayscale images on a
large format color printer. The printer does a superb job with color
images but generates truly unpredictable, bizarre renderings with
grayscale (SEM, TEM) images (greenish/brownish/pinkish tones).

The printer has the option to print using black ink only but,
obviously, no color can be used elsewhere. I have made just about
every color management adjustment imaginable but have come to the
conclusion that it is not possible to print accurate colors and
grayscale simultaneously. Is that so?

I need professional help................. (in many ways).

Thank you.

JB

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Phone: 618-453-3730
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##############################################################

-----Original Message-----
} From: John J. Bozzola [SMTP:bozzola-at-siu.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 5:37 PM
To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


I am trying (rather unsuccessfully) to print grayscale images on a
large format color printer. The printer does a superb job with color
images but generates truly unpredictable, bizarre renderings with
grayscale (SEM, TEM) images (greenish/brownish/pinkish tones).

The printer has the option to print using black ink only but,
obviously, no color can be used elsewhere. I have made just about
every color management adjustment imaginable but have come to the
conclusion that it is not possible to print accurate colors and
grayscale simultaneously. Is that so?

I need professional help................. (in many ways).

Thank you.

JB

--
##############################################################
John J. Bozzola, Ph.D., Director
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750 Communications Drive - MC 4402
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Phone: 618-453-3730
Fax: 618-453-2665
Email: bozzola-at-siu.edu
Web: http://www.siu.edu/departments/shops/cem.html
##############################################################


From daemon Wed Jun 20 14:34:46 2001



From: George Laing :      scisales-at-ngscorp.com
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:26:43 -0400
Subject: RE: Printers and paper

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Luminos http://www.lumijet.com has a spray called
"Imagesheild" to protect prints. $18/ can. Quoting their website:
"LUMIJET IMAGESHIELD will become your favorite print protector.
It’s a convenient ozone-friendly low-odor aerosol spray that significantly
improves wet-fastness. In addition to protecting delicate inkjet images
from moisture, it also shields images from fingerprints and harmful UV rays.
This unique product will not only help extend useful print life,
it is totally transparent; preserving the original print surface
characteristics. From dead matte to glossy, or from canvas to silver foil,
you’ll never know it’s there."

} We are wondering how to go about making our prints more permanent
} from these printers. If the prints have just been printed and
} aren't dry yet, or if they are dry and are in contact with any
} moisture, they smudge quite easily. Is there any coating -
} lamination or spray, or something else which we can use to
} protect the surface?

There were recently (last 6-8 months) some issues with color shift
on some Epson papers. Epson determined the shift was from high
concentrations of ozone, and not due to exposure to light. Epson
recommends Heavyweight Matte or Epson Photo paper for maximum
lightfastness.


George

George Laing
National Graphic Supply
v:(800) 223-7130 X3109
f:(800) 832-2205
email: scisales-at-ngscorp.com
}
} In connection with this, we have also found, especially when we
} have printed b/w prints, that if we leave them in a room with
} full spectrum fluorescent lights for a few days, that they begin
} to change colour, and start to take on a reddish tinge. The
} instructions that came with the paper say to not leave prints
} exposed to sunlight - but we're talking about room lights, here!
} Has anyone else found this happens to them, and is there any way
} of preventing/minimizing this effect without storing prints in a
} light tight bag????
}



From daemon Wed Jun 20 16:31:12 2001



From: White, Woody N. :      nwwhite-at-mcdermott.com
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:11:01 -0500
Subject: RE: Printers and paper

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Epson had a magenta ink fade problem. I have "heard" that it has been
improved. Anecdotal reading suggests the paper chemistry vs. ink can have a
bearing on colorfastness. Prints I have made in the last year or so on
Eposn "photo quality inkjet paper" and Kodak "Picture paper" have held up
reasonably well. I have also used Krylon clear acrylic spray to "fix" some
prints. ...Not bad for moisture, insufficient data about help with fade.
Use many light coats. If you really wet the surface, the paper can become
translucent.

WoodyWhite
McDermott Technology, Inc

{SNIP}
} } In connection with this, we have also found, especially when we
} } have printed b/w prints, that if we leave them in a room with
} } full spectrum fluorescent lights for a few days, that they begin
} } to change colour, and start to take on a reddish tinge. The
} } instructions that came with the paper say to not leave prints
} } exposed to sunlight - but we're talking about room lights, here!
} } Has anyone else found this happens to them, and is there any way
} } of preventing/minimizing this effect without storing prints in a
} } light tight bag????
} }
}
}


From daemon Wed Jun 20 19:09:43 2001



From: aiace_99-at-usa.net ()
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:06:50 -0500
Subject: Ask-A-Microscopist:View cells coming from a dissected tissue

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
(aiace_99-at-usa.net) from
http://www.msa.microscopy.com/Ask-A-Microscopist.html on Wednesday,
June 20, 2001 at 10:45:27
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Email: aiace_99-at-usa.net
Name: Massimo

Organization: None

Education: Graduate College

Location: Italy

Question: I am writing to enquire about a technical problem.
I'd like to see with my microscope some cells coming from a dissected
tissue, for instance a vegetable material.
So, if I have such small tips into a drop of water and I want to
fix, stain and mount in Balsam, how can I perform this operation
without to loose that material from the slide?
Could you give me some information or a reference where I could find
the correct protocol?
Thank you
Massimo.


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From daemon Wed Jun 20 19:09:43 2001



From: woxberry-at-downstate.edu
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:04:41 -0500
Subject: New Confocal user

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I am a long time Tem person starting a new job doing both TEM and
LSCM. Its very exciting learning LSCM but I need some suggestions for
ordering probes. Our lab has a Kr/Ar laser and will be doing
neuropathology research, mostly with fixed human brain samples, but
also tissue culture cells both live and fixed. A vibratome is in our
future. I was thinking of ordering alexa488nm-phalloiden, alexa568-
streptavidin, and syto60 from molecular probes to start getting used to
the scope and the lasersharp bio-rad software. The immunohistotech in
the lab uses an ABC dtection system with Dab. The first probe should
contrast the cytoskeleton well(stain F-actin), the second probe will
label any primary Ab, and the third will bind to DNA and contrast the
nucleus. Will using these three probes together be a good starting
point to becoming adept at labeling and producing high quality images
on the LSCM including optical sectioning and 3D (and 4D sometime in the
future)?
I welcome suggestions
Thank you

Bill


From daemon Thu Jun 21 05:36:33 2001



From: sterling stoudenmire :      sstouden-at-thelinks.com
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 05:42:13 -0500
Subject: does anyone have a resolve workstation

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if so, how well is it liked?

http://www.resolve3d.com/in_the_news_resview.html
Computer Aided Cell and Molecular Biology (CACMB), not medicine, will find
the cure for cancer and other diseases. There will always be a need for
the trained clinician (MD/RN) but, advanced diagnostic and treatment option
selection has become gene based, has moved from the physician's practice to
the computerized cell and molecular biology laboratory, and appropriate
treatment options should now be based on the personal biology of the
patient.


From daemon Thu Jun 21 07:27:40 2001



From: Damian :      neuberger1234-at-home.com
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:22:14 -0500
Subject: BioRad Confocal MRC1000 Info needed

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Hi Listers,
I have a BioRad Confocal MRC1000 on a Nikon Optiphot (upright scope)
and would like to use it on an inverted microscope but the only thing
I have is an older Diaphot with the 80/20 prism. Of course this is
unacceptable as there is no shutter to prevent someone from
inadvertently looking into the eyepieces while scanning.
Does anyone know if and how the sliders on the Diaphot can be
modified so as to serve as a shutter, i.e. in one position the
scanner input is blocked to allow viewing and in another it is
directed only to the objective/specimen? I assume it would mean a
modification to the internal prisms. Has anyone done this? Source for
parts? Procedure? Does anyone do this as a business? I called my
local Nikon dealer and was told that the 80/20 can not be converted.
Would I be better off to by a new inverted scope? Issues: cost, new
infinity corrected optics.
What are the issues with this changeover if you have done this.
If someone who is on the confocal list could forward this, I would
appreciate it. I have not been able to sign on since I changed my
email address.
Thanks so much for advice and help.
Damian Neuberger, PhD
Senior Research Scientist
Baxter Healthcare Corp.
email: damian_neuberger-at-baxter.com
Fax: 847/270-5897Phone: 847/270-5888


From daemon Thu Jun 21 07:27:45 2001



From: Damian :      neuberger1234-at-home.com
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:22:37 -0500
Subject: Printing Gray scale on a deskjet

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Along this thread, when we print B&W images on a HP deskjet, we set
printer properties to Grayscale, yet when we examine the image with a
hand lens, we can see color dots. Why? (perhaps I missed the answer
in a previous recent message, sorry). Damian


From daemon Thu Jun 21 07:46:49 2001



From: Randi Olsen :      randio-at-fagmed.uit.no
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:42:14 +0200
Subject: HISTOLOGICAL SPECIMENS, SEMINAR BOXES

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I got a question from one of the Professors in Pathology here in Tromso,
and she wants to know if there are anyone selling seminar boxes with
specimens
(Light microsopy)from human pathology/anatomy?

Best regards
Randi Olsen
Department of Electron Microscopy
Faculty of Medicine
University of Tromso
N-9037 TROMSO
Norway



From daemon Thu Jun 21 08:19:01 2001



From: Mike Nesta :      MNesta-at-ebsciences.com
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:13:52 -0400
Subject: Critical point dryer

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Steve,

I'm not certain but your Sorvall unit may be similar in design to the
Polaron CPD units that we service and sell in the U.S. If you could send us
a digital photograph and/or copies of any information on the unit that may
still be around, we will be happy to do some research to see if we can help
you.

Please feel free to contact me off line at mnesta-at-ebsciences.com or by phone
at (800) 992-9037.

Mike

Michael R. Nesta
General Manager
Energy Beam Sciences, Inc.
Agawam, MA USA
Tel: (413) 786-9322
www.ebsciences.com
"Adding Brilliance to Your Vision"



-----Original Message-----
} From: swiding [mailto:swiding-at-astro.temple.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 9:38 AM
To: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


Hello List,

I am trying to repair our Sorvall critical point dryer. I would like to
replace
the needle valve assemblies as they are starting to leak. Does anyone know
if
parts are available for this system? If not, we will have to get it
replaced.

Thanks for the help,

Steve Widing
Temple University





From daemon Thu Jun 21 08:25:37 2001



From: David_Bell-at-millipore.com
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:26:55 -0400
Subject: Re: does anyone have a resolve workstation

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Hi Sterling,

We just had a demo of their system from the local sales person, and I must
say I was greatly impressed. The company is very young and full of some
great ideas. The sales crew seems eager to work with potential customers.
The demo was good enough for the powers that be here to approve some "proof
of concept" work with some of our own samples. The software is simply
amazing in its potential. It seems to have a very user friendly, and
intuitive interface that is quite powerful. Obviously the biggest
limitation is resolution. Despite the claims of "high resolution", they
are limited to typical light microscopy resolutions of about 0.2um/voxel.
Another limitation is your material. If you are talking about biological
samples, there is no problem, but currently certain materials do present a
problem for them.

If you have more specific questions about what I saw at the demo, please
feel free to contact me.

Sincerely,



David Bell
Scientist
Electron Microscopy Lab
Millipore Corporation
80 Ashby Road
Bedford, MA 01730
(781) 533-2108





sterling
stoudenmire To: MICROSCOPY-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
{sstouden-at-the cc:
links.com} Subject: does anyone have a resolve workstation

06/21/2001
06:42 AM






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if so, how well is it liked?

http://www.resolve3d.com/in_the_news_resview.html
Computer Aided Cell and Molecular Biology (CACMB), not medicine, will find
the cure for cancer and other diseases. There will always be a need for
the trained clinician (MD/RN) but, advanced diagnostic and treatment option
selection has become gene based, has moved from the physician's practice to
the computerized cell and molecular biology laboratory, and appropriate
treatment options should now be based on the personal biology of the
patient.






From daemon Thu Jun 21 08:39:41 2001



From: Mike Nesta :      MNesta-at-ebsciences.com
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:34:10 -0400
Subject: Critical point dryer

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Steve,

I'm not certain but your Sorvall unit may be similar in design to the
Polaron CPD units that we service and sell in the U.S. If you could send us
a digital photograph and/or copies of any information on the unit that may
still be around, we will be happy to do some research to see if we can help
you.

Please feel free to contact me off line at mnesta-at-ebsciences.com or by phone
at (800) 992-9037.

Mike

Michael R. Nesta
General Manager
Energy Beam Sciences, Inc.
Agawam, MA USA
Tel: (413) 786-9322
www.ebsciences.com
"Adding Brilliance to Your Vision"



-----Original Message-----
} From: swiding [mailto:swiding-at-astro.temple.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 9:38 AM
To: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


Hello List,

I am trying to repair our Sorvall critical point dryer. I would like to
replace
the needle valve assemblies as they are starting to leak. Does anyone know
if
parts are available for this system? If not, we will have to get it
replaced.

Thanks for the help,

Steve Widing
Temple University







From daemon Thu Jun 21 08:41:59 2001



From: Julie Piraino :      piraino-at-sms.si.edu
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:39:48 -0500
Subject: service for old microtomes

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Hello,

Boeckler/Ventana/RMC/Dupont-Sorvall no longer provide on-site service
for old MT2-B microtome, and no support for our MT-5000 microtome.
Does anyone know of a good, independent service provider for these
instruments in the SE United States?



Julie Piraino
Laboratory Manager
Smithsonian Maine Station
701 Seaway Drive
Fort Pierce, FL 34949
561-465-6630 x143
fax 561-461-8154


From daemon Thu Jun 21 09:48:55 2001



From: Kathy Wolken :      wolken.1-at-osu.edu
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:53:45 -0400
Subject: NIH Image

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I'm sending this request for a colleague.

I am using the threshold feature of NIH Image to analyze images of cell
cultures of individual neurons with processes. We are attempting to
quantitate the number of processes in each culture. However, when the
threshold function is applied, if a polygon is formed by the processes, NIH
Image fills in the space between the "lines" (coverts all the pixels to
black = "above threshold"). Since we are trying to measure the number of
pixels above threshold, the filled space is counted as part of the number,
thus preventing an accurate measurement.

Is there a way to stop the "fill" from occurring?

Thanks.

Paul Madtes Jr.
pmadtes-at-mvnc.edu
Kathleen S. Wolken
Senior Electron Microscopist
Campus Microscopy and Imaging Facility (CMIF)
4029 Graves Hall
333 West 10th Avenue
Columbus, OH 43210-1239

Phone 614-292-9786
FAX 614-688-8742
WEB http://www.med.ohio-state.edu/cmif




From daemon Thu Jun 21 10:37:04 2001



From: Rosemary Walsh :      rw9-at-psu.edu
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:12:31 -0400
Subject: biofilms

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Dear Listers,
Does anyone have experience in isolating biofilms from
sediment prior to fixation. I thinking of doing a pretreatment with
Tween-20 but would appreciate suggestions from anyone who has
prepared films for imaging in the LM and SEM.
Rosemary
--
Rosemary Walsh, Manager
The Electron Microscope Facility for the Life Sciences,
A Shared Technology Facility, The Life Sciences Consortium
1 South FrearLab
Penn State University
University Park, PA 16802
(814) 865-0212
rw9-at-psu.edu
http://www.lsc.psu.edu/stf/em/home.html


From daemon Thu Jun 21 10:40:19 2001



From: craig klotz :      cklotz-at-mcw.edu
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:34:43 -0500
Subject: Ultramicrotomes

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Would anyone who uses a MT-6000, Ultracut E, or NOVA ultramicrotome please
comment on reliability, ease-of -use, lighting, etc. for those
machines. Our lab is going to purchase a used machine in July.

TIA,
Craig



From daemon Thu Jun 21 10:52:02 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:46:20 -0400
Subject: RE: New Confocal user

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I found that the learning curve was greatly improved by starting
with another Molecular Probe product. I acquired the 6um FocalCheck beads
(I got F-14807)(Search MP for document MP 07234) that fit our system - they
should be fairly generic. I have made up my own slides. You will probably
want one with three colors. The idea is to determine through experience the
relationship between Mag Power and Optical Section Thickness. The problem
in CSLM is not the x-y plane, it is learning how to get the z-axis right,
and how to balance the channels. Choosing the other probes is a question
that can only be answered by knowing as much as possible about the spectral
characteristics of the excitation and emission filters in your system so
that you can minimize crosstalk. NOTE: There is a paucity of information
about filters that forces us to be empiric in setting up experiments, at
least that's been my experience so far. I keep on asking for the
information from the system vendor.

Hope this helps,

Fred Monson

Frederick C. Monson, PhD
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging (CASI)
Schmucker II Science Center (Room: SS024(Basement))
South Church Street
West Chester, PA, 19383
MailDrop: Department of Geology/Astronomy
Phone: 610-738-0437
Fax: 610-436-3036
email: fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Please call before visiting.



} ----------
} From: "woxberry-at-downstate.edu"-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 8:04 PM
} To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: New Confocal user
}
} ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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}
} I am a long time Tem person starting a new job doing both TEM and
} LSCM. Its very exciting learning LSCM but I need some suggestions for
} ordering probes. Our lab has a Kr/Ar laser and will be doing
} neuropathology research, mostly with fixed human brain samples, but
} also tissue culture cells both live and fixed. A vibratome is in our
} future. I was thinking of ordering alexa488nm-phalloiden, alexa568-
} streptavidin, and syto60 from molecular probes to start getting used to
} the scope and the lasersharp bio-rad software. The immunohistotech in
} the lab uses an ABC dtection system with Dab. The first probe should
} contrast the cytoskeleton well(stain F-actin), the second probe will
} label any primary Ab, and the third will bind to DNA and contrast the
} nucleus. Will using these three probes together be a good starting
} point to becoming adept at labeling and producing high quality images
} on the LSCM including optical sectioning and 3D (and 4D sometime in the
} future)?
} I welcome suggestions
} Thank you
}
} Bill
}
}


From daemon Thu Jun 21 10:59:15 2001



From: Johnson, Bradley R :      Bradley.Johnson-at-pnl.gov
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:54:10 -0700
Subject: SEM: Recommendations for BSE detectors

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Hello All,
I have a Jeol 5900 SEM, and I would like to purchase a BSE detector for
it. Does anyone in the group have any suggestions/recommendations/warnings? Is
it pretty straight forward to purchase a third-party detector and get it to work
with our microscope, or is it best to go through the vendor? Thank you for any
input that you can provide.


Brad Johnson
Pacific Northwest National Lab
P.O. Box 99, K6-24
Richland, WA 99352
voice: 509-372-1635
fax: 509-376-3108

Bradley.Johnson-at-pnl.gov


From daemon Thu Jun 21 11:13:02 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:08:08 -0400
Subject: RE: New Confocal user

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I found that the learning curve was greatly improved by starting
with another Molecular Probe product. I acquired the 6um FocalCheck beads
(I got F-14807)(Search MP for document MP 07234) that fit our system - they
should be fairly generic. I have made up my own slides. You will probably
want one with three colors. The idea is to determine through experience the
relationship between Mag Power and Optical Section Thickness. The problem
in CSLM is not the x-y plane, it is learning how to get the z-axis right,
and how to balance the channels. Choosing the other probes is a question
that can only be answered by knowing as much as possible about the spectral
characteristics of the excitation and emission filters in your system so
that you can minimize crosstalk. NOTE: There is a paucity of information
about filters that forces us to be empiric in setting up experiments, at
least that's been my experience so far. I keep on asking for the
information from the system vendor.

Hope this helps,

Fred Monson

Frederick C. Monson, PhD
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging (CASI)
Schmucker II Science Center (Room: SS024(Basement))
South Church Street
West Chester, PA, 19383
MailDrop: Department of Geology/Astronomy
Phone: 610-738-0437
Fax: 610-436-3036
email: fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Please call before visiting.


} ----------
} From: "woxberry-at-downstate.edu"-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 8:04 PM
} To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: New Confocal user
}
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}
}
} I am a long time Tem person starting a new job doing both TEM and
} LSCM. Its very exciting learning LSCM but I need some suggestions for
} ordering probes. Our lab has a Kr/Ar laser and will be doing
} neuropathology research, mostly with fixed human brain samples, but
} also tissue culture cells both live and fixed. A vibratome is in our
} future. I was thinking of ordering alexa488nm-phalloiden, alexa568-
} streptavidin, and syto60 from molecular probes to start getting used to
} the scope and the lasersharp bio-rad software. The immunohistotech in
} the lab uses an ABC dtection system with Dab. The first probe should
} contrast the cytoskeleton well(stain F-actin), the second probe will
} label any primary Ab, and the third will bind to DNA and contrast the
} nucleus. Will using these three probes together be a good starting
} point to becoming adept at labeling and producing high quality images
} on the LSCM including optical sectioning and 3D (and 4D sometime in the
} future)?
} I welcome suggestions
} Thank you
}
} Bill
}
}


From daemon Thu Jun 21 12:03:36 2001



From: Thearith H. Ung :      tung-at-qdots.com
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:51:50 -0700
Subject: TEM-Ultrathin film grid

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Dear colleagues,

I work with ultrasmall nanosized particles, as small as 2 nm, with much
lower contrast than metal particles such as gold and silver. These
ultrasmall particles don't show up very well on TEM, even with optimal TEM
settings. I thought what would help to increase the contrast dramatically
would be to use a TEM grid that has very low background signal. I have tried
grids with ultrathin carbon film (about 5 nm thick) but the background
signal is still too high for these particles to show up clearly. Holey
carbon grids is an option except they don't give me enough particles for
particle sizing. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.


Regards,

Thearith



From daemon Thu Jun 21 12:26:01 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:21:26 -0400
Subject: RE: Printers and paper - Sources of Inksets

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In a recent issue of "PEI", May, 2001 (http://www.peimag.com) the following
sampling of Inkset Resources was offered in an article entitled: "Inksets
for Desktop Inkjet Printers", by Theano Nikitas.

The point of the article was the difference between pigment and dye
inks, and those that are specially formulated for archival prints.

I am only using those that are not Printer Manufacturers

1. Cone Editions Press: http://www.inkjetmall.com

2. Luminos Photo Corp: http://www.luminos.com

3. Lyson USA Inc.: http://www.lysonusa.com

4. MIS Associates Inc: http://inksupply.com

5. MediaStreet.com: http://mediastreet.com

6. Xtreme gamut: http://xtremegamut.com

Fred Monson

Frederick C. Monson, PhD
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging (CASI)
Schmucker II Science Center (Room: SS024(Basement))
South Church Street
West Chester, PA, 19383
MailDrop: Department of Geology/Astronomy
Phone: 610-738-0437
Fax: 610-436-3036
email: fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Please call before visiting.

} ----------
} From: Paula Allan-Wojtas
} Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:47 AM
} To: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: Printers and paper
}
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} Hi, all,
}
} This question has come up for us at a good time, with this ongoing
} discussion of printers.
}
} We recently purchased an Epson 880 ink jet printer for our EM/LM lab, and
} are very happy with it. The black and white prints look excellent. We have
} tried a number of papers, and find that the Epson "Photo Quality Glossy
} Paper" and "Photo Paper" give the best results for our purposes.
}
} We are wondering how to go about making our prints more permanent from
} these printers. If the prints have just been printed and aren't dry yet,
} or if they are dry and are in contact with any moisture, they smudge quite
} easily. Is there any coating - lamination or spray, or something else
} which we can use to protect the surface?
}
} In connection with this, we have also found, especially when we have
} printed b/w prints, that if we leave them in a room with full spectrum
} fluorescent lights for a few days, that they begin to change colour, and
} start to take on a reddish tinge. The instructions that came with the
} paper say to not leave prints exposed to sunlight - but we're talking
} about room lights, here! Has anyone else found this happens to them, and
} is there any way of preventing/minimizing this effect without storing
} prints in a light tight bag????
}
} Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated. As always, thanks for
} your help in advance.
}
} Regards,
}
} Paula.
}
} Paula Allan-Wojtas
} Research Scientist - Food Microstructure
} Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada
} Atlantic Food and Horticulture Research Centre
} Kentville, Nova Scotia Canada B4N 1J5
}
} Tel: (902) 679-5566
} FAX: (902) 679-2311
}
} email: allanwojtasp-at-em.agr.ca
}
}
}


From daemon Thu Jun 21 13:25:42 2001



From: Sergey Ryazantsev :      sryazant-at-ucla.edu
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:01:08 -0700
Subject: Re: Printing Gray scale on a deskjet

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I checked out there system from a general interest, "this looks cool"
viewpoint. I recall the representative telling me that the technique works
by serial sections. I also seem to recall that the images are taken of the
remaining block rather than the removed sections.

It sounds like an interesting approach, and it will certainly have some
applications. I did not see any immediate applications in my research. I
was also unsure what kind of ultimate resolution could be achieved. It
seems that the technique would be as limited by the thickness of the
sections in the z-direction as it would by microscopy in the x- and
y-directions.

At 09:26 AM 6/21/2001 -0400, you wrote:
} Hi Sterling,
}
} We just had a demo of their system from the local sales person, and I must
} say I was greatly impressed. The company is very young and full of some
} great ideas. The sales crew seems eager to work with potential customers.
} The demo was good enough for the powers that be here to approve some "proof
} of concept" work with some of our own samples. The software is simply
} amazing in its potential. It seems to have a very user friendly, and
} intuitive interface that is quite powerful. Obviously the biggest
} limitation is resolution. Despite the claims of "high resolution", they
} are limited to typical light microscopy resolutions of about 0.2um/voxel.
} Another limitation is your material. If you are talking about biological
} samples, there is no problem, but currently certain materials do present a
} problem for them.
}
} If you have more specific questions about what I saw at the demo, please
} feel free to contact me.
}
} Sincerely,
}
} David Bell
} Scientist
} Electron Microscopy Lab
} Millipore Corporation
} 80 Ashby Road
} Bedford, MA 01730
} (781) 533-2108
}
}
} From: sterling stoudenmire



In my point of view, it's almost impossible to have gray tones with RGB (3
color scheme) color cartridges. CYMK (4 color) will do right if printer
set for gray-scale (to use black cartridge only). To simplify my life I
removed color cartridges and replaced them on black one for B&W
prints. For may model it's possible to use big black cartridge instead
color assembly. I always replace color ribbon on black one in our
Tektronix Dye-sub (actually, reverse: black ribbon installed by default and
we replace that on color if necessary).

Sergey

At 07:22 AM 6/21/01 -0500, you wrote:
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From daemon Thu Jun 21 14:18:26 2001



From: Tom Moninger :      moninger-at-emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:13:32 -0500
Subject: Re: Resolution Sciences

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At 12:53 PM 6/21/2001 -0500, Warren E Straszheim wrote:

I also looked into this a while back, it's an interesting approach.
Essentially the sample is fluorescently stained with something like eosin
and embedded in an opaque plastic. The surface is imaged, a micron or two
is shaved off, the new surface is imaged, and so on. This gives you a
(huge) 3D data set that can be viewed at various magnifications and
resolutions. You lease/buy a computer system from them, send them the
sample and they send you a DVD with the data. The software is quite fast
and easy to use. I haven't used their services yet, am still waiting for an
appropriate sample.

Tom


} I checked out there system from a general interest, "this looks cool"
} viewpoint. I recall the representative telling me that the technique works
} by serial sections. I also seem to recall that the images are taken of the
} remaining block rather than the removed sections.
}
} It sounds like an interesting approach, and it will certainly have some
} applications. I did not see any immediate applications in my research. I
} was also unsure what kind of ultimate resolution could be achieved. It
} seems that the technique would be as limited by the thickness of the
} sections in the z-direction as it would by microscopy in the x- and
} y-directions.

Thomas Moninger (thomas-moninger-at-uiowa.edu)
University of Iowa Central Microscopy Research Facility (www.uiowa.edu/~cemrf)
View expressed are my own.


From daemon Thu Jun 21 14:25:31 2001



From: Robert Palmer :      rjpalmer-at-dir.nidcr.nih.gov
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:26:10 -0400
Subject: Re: biofilms

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I guess my question would be "what is the investigator's definition of a
biofilm?" If you detergent-treat sediment, you are likely to remove a
substantial majority of the attached bacterial biomass from suspended
solids, but this will also contain non-biofilm (porewater) cells and the
majority of the spatial information in the sample (relationships of cells
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From daemon Thu Jun 21 14:34:04 2001



From: White, Woody N. :      nwwhite-at-mcdermott.com
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:18:46 -0500
Subject: RE: Recommendations for BSE detectors

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I have used GW Electronics BSE systems for many years. I purchased my last
system just a few years back. With both the olde and new systems, I had
excellent results -performance is great. The equipment is very well made
and has been extremely reliable. I have no connection with GW other than
being an experineced and satisfied user.

GW can interface to just about any scope.

Woody White
McDermott Technology, Inc.
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} I have a Jeol 5900 SEM, and I would like to purchase a
} BSE detector for
} it. Does anyone in the group have any
} suggestions/recommendations/warnings? Is
} it pretty straight forward to purchase a third-party detector
} and get it to work
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}
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From daemon Thu Jun 21 15:21:54 2001



From: Danowski, Kristine (KL) :      KLDanowski-at-dow.com
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:16:31 -0500
Subject: duplicate posts?

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Hello List,

Am I the only person receiving duplicate posts from the Microscopy list?

Just curious.

Kristine


From daemon Thu Jun 21 15:36:34 2001



From: Geoff McAuliffe :      mcauliff-at-umdnj.edu
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:31:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Ultramicrotomes

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craig klotz wrote:

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} Would anyone who uses a MT-6000, Ultracut E, or NOVA ultramicrotome please
} comment on reliability, ease-of -use, lighting, etc. for those
} machines. Our lab is going to purchase a used machine in July.
}

We have had an Ultracut E for 15 years with only occasional and relativley
minor repairs needed. When we have needed service, Tek-Net of Lakewood, NJ has
been excellent.

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From daemon Thu Jun 21 16:28:16 2001



From: Sergey Ryazantsev :      sryazant-at-ucla.edu
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:23:13 -0700
Subject: Fwd: Re: TEM-Ultrathin film grid

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} Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:22:08 -0700
} To: "Thearith H. Ung" {tung-at-qdots.com}
} From: Sergey Ryazantsev {sryazant-at-ucla.edu}
} Subject: Re: TEM-Ultrathin film grid
}
} Dear Thearith
}
} 5 nm carbon film is very thick. I am using 1.5-1.8 nm carbon film
} on carbon 2 mkm holey film for 1.4 nm for NanoGold particles. You could
} also try dark-field mode to enhance the contrast. It's also possible to
} decrease the carbon film thickness because it's so strong. I measure the
} actual carbon thickness by TM-450 MAXTEK thickness monitor (0.01 nm
} resolution). I am using my own design "electron gun" and oil-free vacuum
} apparatus for carbon film preparation.
}
} Sergey
}
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From daemon Thu Jun 21 16:32:06 2001



From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:25:48 -0700
Subject: Re: SEM: Recommendations for BSE detectors

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Try Bob Ruscica at ETP-USA. He handles Robinson
scintillator detectors. Probably the best type made.
Very sensitive, versatile and reliable. Not high cost, either.
They can be retrofitted to most any scope.

gary g. (highly satisfied Robinson BSE user)


At 08:54 AM 6/21/2001, you wrote:

} Hello All,
} I have a Jeol 5900 SEM, and I would like to purchase a BSE
} detector for
} it. Does anyone in the group have any
} suggestions/recommendations/warnings? Is
} it pretty straight forward to purchase a third-party detector and get it
} to work
} with our microscope, or is it best to go through the vendor? Thank you
} for any
} input that you can provide.
}
}
} Brad Johnson
} Pacific Northwest National Lab
} P.O. Box 99, K6-24
} Richland, WA 99352
} voice: 509-372-1635
} fax: 509-376-3108
}
} Bradley.Johnson-at-pnl.gov



From daemon Thu Jun 21 19:07:37 2001



From: Sergey Ryazantsev :      sryazant-at-ucla.edu
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It should works great, thanks for idea. Basically, for my B&W job I am
using Tektronix dye-sub which performs fine.
Sergey

At 07:13 PM 6/21/01 -0400, you wrote:
} look for Quad-Black - it is a four or six grey shade ink set to replace
} the color ones - the prints have more grey levels than film.
}
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From daemon Thu Jun 21 22:29:02 2001



From: Stefan Geimer :      stefan.geimer-at-yale.edu
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:07:51 -0500
Subject: Microtome experiences

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Craig,

I used an RMC MT-6000 XL for five years and I am using an Reichert
Ultracut E since a couple of weeks. After getting used to the Reichert I
like it a lot and think overall it is the better machine. It has some
nice features, for example this integral water pump and the specimen
trans-illumination etc. and I think the mechanics are more robust.
One thing is better about the RMC MT-6000 XL. You can change the angle
of the microscope and by that always get the best reflection of the
water surface in the knife boat (independent from how high the water
level is).
The RMC is really not bad but I think a lot of details make the Reichert
better.

Stefan







From daemon Thu Jun 21 22:30:33 2001



From: Beth Richardson :      beth-at-dogwood.botany.uga.edu
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:26:04 -0700
Subject: Re: Ultramicrotomes

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Hi Craig,
As you probably know the machines you are asking about definitely have some
age on them. The lab here has a RMC MT-6000XL and an Ultracut E. I really
like the Ultracut - it works like a charm and has lighting in every
possible direction. I really dislike the design of the RMC MT-6000 and the
lighting is either on above or below but not both unless you get a switch
installed (we had the switch installed and it makes a big difference to
me). The newer RMC ultramicrotomes are very nice but the Ultracuts are
still the best ultramicrotomes. Can't comment on the Nova.
best regards,
Beth

} Would anyone who uses a MT-6000, Ultracut E, or NOVA ultramicrotome please
} comment on reliability, ease-of -use, lighting, etc. for those
} machines. Our lab is going to purchase a used machine in July.


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From daemon Fri Jun 22 00:05:40 2001



From: Gordon Couger :      gcouger-at-rfdata.net
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:22:13 -0500
Subject: Re: Printers and paper

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For the more frugal try Johnson's Paste Wax. It works on some inks and
papers, not all. It does offer some protection against UV. It does protect
against moisture, finger prints, dust and scratches. It does change the
finish some.

If the wax causes the ink to smear a fixative spray will usually stop that.

Test it for several weeks before putting it on an expensive display.

Wax also works on regular photographs. The way I discovered it was on B&W
prints that were displayed outdoors in the weather for several months.

Gordon

Gordon Couger
Stillwater, OK



.From: "George Laing" {scisales-at-ngscorp.com}

Luminos http://www.lumijet.com has a spray called
"Imagesheild" to protect prints. $18/ can. Quoting their website:
"LUMIJET IMAGESHIELD will become your favorite print protector.
It's a convenient ozone-friendly low-odor aerosol spray that significantly
improves wet-fastness. In addition to protecting delicate inkjet images
from moisture, it also shields images from fingerprints and harmful UV rays.
This unique product will not only help extend useful print life,
it is totally transparent; preserving the original print surface
characteristics. From dead matte to glossy, or from canvas to silver foil,
you'll never know it's there."

} We are wondering how to go about making our prints more permanent
} from these printers. If the prints have just been printed and
} aren't dry yet, or if they are dry and are in contact with any
} moisture, they smudge quite easily. Is there any coating -
} lamination or spray, or something else which we can use to
} protect the surface?

There were recently (last 6-8 months) some issues with color shift
on some Epson papers. Epson determined the shift was from high
concentrations of ozone, and not due to exposure to light. Epson
recommends Heavyweight Matte or Epson Photo paper for maximum
lightfastness.


George

George Laing
National Graphic Supply
v:(800) 223-7130 X3109
f:(800) 832-2205
email: scisales-at-ngscorp.com
}
} In connection with this, we have also found, especially when we
} have printed b/w prints, that if we leave them in a room with
} full spectrum fluorescent lights for a few days, that they begin
} to change colour, and start to take on a reddish tinge. The
} instructions that came with the paper say to not leave prints
} exposed to sunlight - but we're talking about room lights, here!
} Has anyone else found this happens to them, and is there any way
} of preventing/minimizing this effect without storing prints in a
} light tight bag????
}





From daemon Fri Jun 22 04:07:15 2001



From: Malcolm Haswell :      malcolm.haswell-at-sunderland.ac.uk
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:08:07 +0100
Subject: Re: Ultramicrotomes

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Craig

I have used a 'Super Nova' for 11 or 12 years and the only thing that
has needed to be replaced/repaired was the fluorescent light source. We
are starting to have a niggling problem when switching on the light - it
can take several attempts and it looks like there might be some sort of
dedicated controller to be fixed. The only other thing that may need to
be replaced is the belt (motor drive band) which is beginning to slip
when manual raise and lower is used on the specimen arm. It's never
needed a service engineer though.
The reason we/I opted for the LKB was that I had used them for years and
liked their reliability - there is no thin section mechanical feed to go
wrong. The 'Super Nova' was a later model than the Nova and has a
completely sealed control panel which keeps the dust and probably water
out. It can also maintain specimen position accurately when you turn the
thermal feed off and the cut stroke is powered rather than just relying
on gravity. I don't know if these are standard on the Nova.
The Ultracut E has nicer optics, specimen adjustment is superb and it is
much less sensitive to external vibration but I cannot swear to it's
long term use because I've only used it in demonstrations.
I really think it would be worthwhile if you can get a demonstration
(especially if you can take a specimen to cut) because these machines
are all very good and it may come down to personal taste. One thing you
might to want to examine is the availability of spares, accessories and
servicing for each machine - in the UK it is becoming difficult to get
spares for the 'Super Nova'.

I hope this helps.

The usual disclaimers apply: my opinions etc. and no affiliations to any
company.


Malcolm Haswell
e.m. unit
School of Sciences
University of Sunderland
UK

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}
} TIA,
} Craig


From daemon Fri Jun 22 07:38:20 2001



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From daemon Fri Jun 22 08:16:36 2001



From: Dr Malcolm Roberts :      m.roberts-at-ru.ac.za
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:09:47 +0200
Subject: JEOL 733: beam non-cooperation

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Hi all,
We had a short in the objective lens coil a while ago and it was
changed. What was happening was that we lost all control of the beam
position and focus. We usually work at 15 kV (suitable for most of our
needs), but now need to do something at 25. However, when we increase to
this acc. voltage, we are finding a similar problem - beam pops out of
focus (goes big and diffuse) and shoots off somewhere. We can get it
back by pressing the Obj. Pol. button. This normally works if we get the
same thing at 20 kV and less, but not at 25. The effect only occurs once
an hour at 22 kV. Anyone have an idea why this is happening? By the way,
for those who would undoubtably ask, the I is 100 nA for what we are at
the the moment.
Comments?
Malc.

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From daemon Fri Jun 22 11:08:57 2001



From: Mary Mager :      mager-at-interchange.ubc.ca
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:01:38 -0700
Subject: Re: SEM: Recommendations for BSE detectors

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Dear Bradley,
I have used the JEOL BSE detector, the GW BSE detector and the Robinson BSE
detector and they all work well and I have had no reliability problems or
interface problems. For the third-party detectors, the external signal just
goes in through the "EXTERNAL" signal input on the SEM.
At 08:54 AM 06/21/2001 -0700, you wrote:
}
} Hello All,
} I have a Jeol 5900 SEM, and I would like to purchase a BSE detector for
} it. Does anyone in the group have any
suggestions/recommendations/warnings? Is
} it pretty straight forward to purchase a third-party detector and get it to
work
} with our microscope, or is it best to go through the vendor? Thank you for any
} input that you can provide.
}
}
} Brad Johnson
Regards,
Mary

Mary Mager
Electron Microscopist
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CANADA
tel: 604-822-5648
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From daemon Fri Jun 22 11:36:27 2001



From: Guangwen Zhou :      guzst1+-at-pitt.edu
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:38:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: unsubscribe

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Jim is right in what he says about the compatibility issues with Oxford/Link
detectors and the restore signal being generated by the pulse processor and
not the pre-amp as in most detectors. However we are reps for Thomson
Scientific Instruments' WINEDS x-ray analyzers and pulse processing
electronics in North America. TSI has the DX3000 bias and PX9000 Pulse
processor that will interface to the Oxford/Link detectors. We have used it
with both the older type and with the Pentafet type without any changes to
the detector preamp. The PX9000 is a universal design and can be used with
other manufacturers analyzers.

Douglas Connors
General Manager
TNAS Inc.
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Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:30 AM




Please remove me from your mailing list

Thanks



From daemon Fri Jun 22 12:01:41 2001



From: Richard Thrift :      Richard_Thrift-at-SkyePharma.com
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:57:12 -0700
Subject: Re: TEM-Ultrathin film grid

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If you are only imaging the particles, not in context of a particular environment, you can negative stain e.g. with phosphotungstic acid.

Sounds like you're not considering staining them but if the particles are reactive then that is a possibility too.

Richard

} } } "Thearith H. Ung" {tung-at-qdots.com} 6/21/01 9:51:50 AM } } }

Dear colleagues,

I work with ultrasmall nanosized particles, as small as 2 nm, with much
lower contrast than metal particles such as gold and silver. These
ultrasmall particles don't show up very well on TEM, even with optimal TEM
settings. I thought what would help to increase the contrast dramatically
would be to use a TEM grid that has very low background signal. I have tried
grids with ultrathin carbon film (about 5 nm thick) but the background
signal is still too high for these particles to show up clearly. Holey
carbon grids is an option except they don't give me enough particles for
particle sizing. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.


Regards,

Thearith





From daemon Fri Jun 22 13:39:37 2001



From: Rachel Spicer :      spicer-at-oeb.harvard.edu
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:38:15 -0400
Subject: Q re: long term storage in fixative

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Hello,

I'm fixing small chunks of wood in 4% phosphate buffered paraformaldehyde,
and separately in a Karnofsy-type (paraformaldehyde and glutaraldehyde)
buffered fixative. I need to store the samples for a year or more - are
either of these fixatives appropriate for long-term storage, and if not,
what are the problems (e.g., tissue hardening?). Does anyone have
suggestions for appropriate storage solutions, or have an idea of how long
is OK in either of these fixatives? The samples in paraformaldehyde are
used for fluorescnce microscopy, and the Karnofsky fixed samples for TEM.
Thanks in advance for your experience/advice.

Rachel

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From daemon Fri Jun 22 15:17:43 2001



From: Andreas Taubert :      taubert-at-seas.upenn.edu
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:21:55 -0400
Subject: Re: TEM-Ultrathin film grid

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Hi Richard,

Thanks for the suggestion. I thought about staining as well, except that
these particles tend to get etched by acids. However, it might still work if
only a small amount of phosphotunstic acid is used. So it is definitely
worthwhile looking into it.

Thearith

-----Original Message-----
} From: Richard Thrift [mailto:Richard_Thrift-at-skyepharma.com]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 9:57 AM
To: tung-at-qdots.com; Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


Thearith,

Have you got a possibility to do STEM ? If there are some high Z atoms in your samples, you should
get enough contrast to see the particles.

Andreas

} Dear colleagues,
}
} I work with ultrasmall nanosized particles, as small as 2 nm, with much
} lower contrast than metal particles such as gold and silver. These
} ultrasmall particles don't show up very well on TEM, even with optimal TEM
} settings. I thought what would help to increase the contrast dramatically
} would be to use a TEM grid that has very low background signal. I have tried
} grids with ultrathin carbon film (about 5 nm thick) but the background
} signal is still too high for these particles to show up clearly. Holey
} carbon grids is an option except they don't give me enough particles for
} particle sizing. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
}
}
} Regards,
}
} Thearith
}
}
}
}



From daemon Fri Jun 22 17:12:41 2001



From: Angela Klaus :      avklaus-at-amnh.org
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:16:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Q re: long term storage in fixative

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Sounds like a contact problem with the OL polarity switch or relay.
At higher KV's the lenses need higher current. 22 KV is probably the limit
for the contact to cut-out.

Regards,

Earl



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} From: "Dr Malcolm Roberts" {m.roberts-at-ru.ac.za}
To: "Microscopy discussion group" {Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com}
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 6:09 AM


Hi Rachel...

I would imagine that storage in 70% ethanol might be a better bet...
brought up through an alcohol series. This is a standard practice for
long term storage of museum specimens after fixation, and for most EM
labs.

Check out following for reference: Simmons, J.E. 1995. Storage in Fluid
Perservatives. In Storage of Natural History Collections: A Preventative
Conservation Approach. Vol. 1. C.L. Rose, C.A. Hawks, and H.H. Genoways,
eds. Society for the Preservation of Natural History Collections, Iowa
City. 161-181.

Best regards,

Angela

Angela V. Klaus

Director, Interdepartmental Laboratories
American Museum of Natural History
Central Park West at 79th Street
New York, NY 10024 USA

Email: avklaus-at-amnh.org
Tel: 212-769-5977


On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Rachel Spicer wrote:

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} Hello,
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} I'm fixing small chunks of wood in 4% phosphate buffered paraformaldehyde,
} and separately in a Karnofsy-type (paraformaldehyde and glutaraldehyde)
} buffered fixative. I need to store the samples for a year or more - are
} either of these fixatives appropriate for long-term storage, and if not,
} what are the problems (e.g., tissue hardening?). Does anyone have
} suggestions for appropriate storage solutions, or have an idea of how long
} is OK in either of these fixatives? The samples in paraformaldehyde are
} used for fluorescnce microscopy, and the Karnofsky fixed samples for TEM.
} Thanks in advance for your experience/advice.
}
} Rachel
}
} ******************************************
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From daemon Sat Jun 23 01:52:35 2001



From: Aarti Harle :      aarti_harle_em-at-usa.net
Date: 23 Jun 2001 00:45:42 MDT
Subject: Re: [Re: Q re: long term storage in fixative]

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Hi Richel

If you want to store for long term then better preserve in a deep freezer at
-20 to -30 deg as it is
and when you want to proceed, allow it to come down at 4 deg and proceed as
per normal procedure.

Second option is fix in a fixative and then store in washing buffer at 4 deg
celcius, but keep one thing is in mind that you should keep changing this
buffer after a short time span, say 15-20 day. Your tissue well perserve in
this condition. Like this i have preserved the animal tissues in best of
condition for three months.

If you try to preserve in fixattive then their is a chacnes of hardening the
material or if you preserves in alchohol 70%, the chances of shrinkage is
more.

for best prservation methods Ref. the book by M.A. Hayat, Techniques in
Electron Microscopy.

With Best Regards
Arti Harle


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Hi Rachel...

I would imagine that storage in 70% ethanol might be a better bet...
brought up through an alcohol series. This is a standard practice for
long term storage of museum specimens after fixation, and for most EM
labs.

Check out following for reference: Simmons, J.E. 1995. Storage in Fluid
Perservatives. In Storage of Natural History Collections: A Preventative
Conservation Approach. Vol. 1. C.L. Rose, C.A. Hawks, and H.H. Genoways,
eds. Society for the Preservation of Natural History Collections, Iowa
City. 161-181.

Best regards,

Angela

Angela V. Klaus

Director, Interdepartmental Laboratories
American Museum of Natural History
Central Park West at 79th Street
New York, NY 10024 USA

Email: avklaus-at-amnh.org
Tel: 212-769-5977


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}
} I'm fixing small chunks of wood in 4% phosphate buffered paraformaldehyde,
} and separately in a Karnofsy-type (paraformaldehyde and glutaraldehyde)
} buffered fixative. I need to store the samples for a year or more - are
} either of these fixatives appropriate for long-term storage, and if not,
} what are the problems (e.g., tissue hardening?). Does anyone have
} suggestions for appropriate storage solutions, or have an idea of how long
} is OK in either of these fixatives? The samples in paraformaldehyde are
} used for fluorescnce microscopy, and the Karnofsky fixed samples for TEM.
} Thanks in advance for your experience/advice.
}
} Rachel
}
} ******************************************
} Rachel Spicer
} Biological Laboratories 3119
} Organismic and Evolutionary Biology
} Harvard University
} 16 Divinity Avenue
} Cambridge, MA 02138
}
} (617) 496-3580 (phone)
} (617) 496-5854 (fax)
} spicer-at-oeb.harvard.edu
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}
}
}




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would be to use a TEM grid that has very low background signal. I have tried
grids with ultrathin carbon film (about 5 nm thick) but the background
signal is still too high for these particles to show up clearly. Holey
carbon grids is an option except they don't give me enough particles for
particle sizing. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
===============================================
This has become quite a generic problem for many who are working with nano
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From daemon Sat Jun 23 08:45:31 2001



From: Jim at Proscitech :      jim-at-proscitech.com
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 23:35:21 +1000
Subject: RE: TEM-Ultrathin film grid

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There are other negative staining compounds available - ammonium molybdate and
uranyl acetate for instance.
However, my first try would be shadow-casting, by evaporating some Pt/C at
about 10 degrees to the specimen.
Cheers
Jim Darley

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On Saturday, June 23, 2001 6:06 AM, Thearith H. Ung [SMTP:tung-at-qdots.com]
wrote:
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}
}
} Hi Richard,
}
} Thanks for the suggestion. I thought about staining as well, except that
} these particles tend to get etched by acids. However, it might still work if
} only a small amount of phosphotunstic acid is used. So it is definitely
} worthwhile looking into it.
}
} Thearith
}
} -----Original Message-----
} } From: Richard Thrift [mailto:Richard_Thrift-at-skyepharma.com]
} Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 9:57 AM
} To: tung-at-qdots.com; Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: Re: TEM-Ultrathin film grid
}
}
} If you are only imaging the particles, not in context of a particular
} environment, you can negative stain e.g. with phosphotungstic acid.
}
} Sounds like you're not considering staining them but if the particles are
} reactive then that is a possibility too.
}
} Richard


From daemon Sat Jun 23 11:57:27 2001



From: Don Grimes :      microtoday-at-mindspring.com
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 12:33:25 -0500
Subject: Just For Fun Micrograph Contest

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Readers,
Kindly allow this short reminder that again at the M&M 2001 Conference we
will hold a "Just For Fun Micrograph" Contest. The concept being composite
images, each of two or more images, one of which must be microscopical in
nature. $600 cash in prizes.
Contact me direct and I will provide full detail.
Don Grimes, Microscopy Today



From daemon Sun Jun 24 15:54:24 2001



From: mario:      jane0l2l-at-excite.com
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 02:27:01
Subject: Manuf. Production/Contrl Software For $1,495.00.

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Job Master, a complete, user friendly Windows based software package, can manage and control your operation from sales quote to shipment.

For one week only, Job Master, normally $2,495.00, is on sale for a total price of $1,495.00. In order for you to receive this $1,000.00 savings we must have your order by June 22th.

Job Master is designed specifically for small to medium sized manufacturers, and costs many thousands of dollars less than any other even remotely comparable software package.

Following is a list of features. If you have any questions, would like to discuss the package further, or if you would like to obtain our Web site address for a total walk through of the program, please call me directly at (661)254-9926(please do not E Mail me back. I may not get your message if you simply hit "Reply" and respond to this message via return E Mail).

By way of background, we are a software company, which for some years has specialized in the development of custom software, primarily for small to medium sized manufacturers. Job Master is a distillation of over a million and a half dollars of software we have developed to control and manage the production of our manufacturing clients.

Job Master contains the following features:

1. QUOTATION MODULE. In this module, quotes are developed, modified, and produced for sending to your client. A history is kept of all quotes for future reference, or modification for other clients. All quotations and revisions are "auto numbered," including versions. The quotes section allows for the entry of parts/processes, and costing of each, including materials, labor, markup, and taxes. Inventory status can be accessed from this section for reference.

2. SALES ORDER. Once a quotation is accepted, the final quotation information can be transformed into a Sales Order for your client's signature on a "point and click" basis. The Sales Order can be modified and re issued if necessary. A history if kept of all Sales Orders for future reference, or modification for other clients. All sales orders and revisions are "auto numbered," including versions. Inventory status can be accessed from this section for reference.

3. CUSTOMER LETTERS can be created from the Quotation and Sales Order sections.

4. SHOP TRAVELER/WORK ORDER. Once a Sales Order is accepted, the sales order information can be transformed into a shop traveler/work order on a "point and click" basis. Each item on the Sales Order becomes a shop traveler/work order, with each step of production of the item then listed on the traveler/work order. Each such traveler/work order is tied back into the Sales Order. The shop traveler/work order allows for the entry of line items, and notes on each line item. The shop traveler/work order contains a "notes" section. The Shop traveler/work order allows for the storing or attachment of drawings to the traveler/work order. The shop traveler/work order also contains a "drop down," from which standard processes can be selected for inclusion on the shop traveler/work order. The shop traveler/work order numbers progress in order of production sequence, and re numbers them if new steps are added. The shop traveler/work order allows for change orders or revisions, and numbers changes in sequence of
he original shop traveler/work order number; i.e., 100, 100-1, 100-2, etc. All shop traveler/work orders and related revisions are retained in memory for future reference. The shop traveler/work order is bar coded for tracking of production step by step, and production of ongoing client status reports. Bar coding includes the ability for an employee to "swipe" their own ID bar code for recording in the system as to who upgraded what step. The shop traveler/work order function also allows for manual update of production status. The shop traveler/work order allows for quality control sign off, and the final production of certifications, either from a "canned" list, or hand typed in on a case by case basis.

5. INVENTORY. The application includes an inventory section, which allows operations to check materials inventory in and out. The inventory section allows for the comparison of inventory received against a P.O., and produces an "overage/underage" report of inventory received as compared against the P.O. The inventory section allows for the setting of minimum (re-order now!) and maximum inventory amounts, and produces reports showing what inventory needs to be ordered, as well as inventory that is at or above the maximum set to have in house. The inventory section also tracks "partially shipped" orders, which are tied in to the shipping function. This section shows how much completed product under a particular order has been actually shipped to a client, and how much remains to be shipped. The balance is adjusted as shipments are made.

6. REQUEST FOR PURCHASE. The application allows operators to produce a Request For Purchase for accounting for any inventory items, which need to be ordered. Inventory items have a drop down of approved vendors for each item.

7. REQUEST FOR BID. The application allows operators to produce a Request For Bid for accounting to send to Vendors for any inventory items, which need to be ordered. Inventory items have a drop down of approved vendors for each item to which Requests For Bid can be sent.

8. INVOICE. The application produces an invoice/invoice detail for all completed items ready to be billed/shipped to clients.

9. PRODUCTION OUTPUT STATUS. The application produces a date range selectable report on how much product, and the value of the product, which was completed during a selected date range. The application also produces a report on how many orders, and the value of those orders, which remain to be completed during a selected date range.

10. The application produces SHIPPING DOCUMENTS as per selected shippers, and produces a PACKING SLIP.

11. The application has a "FIND" FUNCTION in selected sections, allowing for searches by customer name, work order number, etc.

12. The application has "AUTO FILL;" i.e., when an operator starts to type in a name, number, etc. all related information auto fills after the first few letters or numbers are typed in.

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From daemon Sun Jun 24 22:03:52 2001



From: Beverly Giammara :      giammara-at-bellsouth.net
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 23:13:22 -0400
Subject: EM Service vs Manufacturers

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This has been discussed before, but... If anyone has a summary regarding
contract services that they could share, I would appreciate it. (They
seem to be lower priced than electon microscope vendors.) Any recent
experience positive or negative with contract services, particularly 1)
Advanced Research Systems (Alan Sampson) in Illinois or 2) Sci. Inst. &
Applications (V. Feingold) of Duluth, GA or 3) Other EM service
providers covering the Midwest. Thanks for your help.



From daemon Sun Jun 24 23:31:08 2001



From: Diana van Driel :      dianavd-at-eye.usyd.edu.au
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:28:00 +1000
Subject: Re: Q re: long term storage in fixative

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} Hi Rachel,

Remember that paraformaldehyde is a reversible fixative, so it isn't
appropriate to fix in pform then store in a buffer. I've stored
animal tissue for years in pform with no problems, though I'm sure
it's not recommended. As for pform/glut, storage after fixation in
cacodylate buffer is good, as nothing seems to grow in cacodylate.

Diana

}
} Hello,
}
} I'm fixing small chunks of wood in 4% phosphate buffered paraformaldehyde,
} and separately in a Karnofsy-type (paraformaldehyde and glutaraldehyde)
} buffered fixative. I need to store the samples for a year or more - are
} either of these fixatives appropriate for long-term storage, and if not,
} what are the problems (e.g., tissue hardening?). Does anyone have
} suggestions for appropriate storage solutions, or have an idea of how long
} is OK in either of these fixatives? The samples in paraformaldehyde are
} used for fluorescnce microscopy, and the Karnofsky fixed samples for TEM.
} Thanks in advance for your experience/advice.
}
} Rachel
--



Diana van Driel
Department of Clinical Ophthalmology
Sydney University
GPO Box 4337
Sydney NSW
AUSTRALIA 2001

Phone 61 2 938 27278/27395
Mob 0412 165 075
Fax 61 2 938 27318


From daemon Mon Jun 25 03:32:22 2001



From: Patton, David :      David.Patton-at-uwe.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:25:44 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
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No relevant experience but ...

How about storing part of the sample in buffer with sodium
azide to inhibit microorganisms.

Dave


On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:38:15 -0400 Rachel Spicer
{spicer-at-oeb.harvard.edu} wrote:

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} Hello,
}
} I'm fixing small chunks of wood in 4% phosphate buffered paraformaldehyde,
} and separately in a Karnofsy-type (paraformaldehyde and glutaraldehyde)
} buffered fixative. I need to store the samples for a year or more - are
} either of these fixatives appropriate for long-term storage, and if not,
} what are the problems (e.g., tissue hardening?). Does anyone have
} suggestions for appropriate storage solutions, or have an idea of how long
} is OK in either of these fixatives? The samples in paraformaldehyde are
} used for fluorescnce microscopy, and the Karnofsky fixed samples for TEM.
} Thanks in advance for your experience/advice.
}
} Rachel
}
} ******************************************
} Rachel Spicer
} Biological Laboratories 3119
} Organismic and Evolutionary Biology
} Harvard University
} 16 Divinity Avenue
} Cambridge, MA 02138
}
} (617) 496-3580 (phone)
} (617) 496-5854 (fax)
} spicer-at-oeb.harvard.edu
} ******************************************
}
}

----------------------------------------
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From daemon Mon Jun 25 07:44:32 2001



From: Patton, David :      David.Patton-at-uwe.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:36:57 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
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I have found that there are a few cacodylate tolerant
organisms. Nonetheless I usually take the risk.

Dave


On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:28:00 +1000 Diana van Driel
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}
} } Hi Rachel,
}
} Remember that paraformaldehyde is a reversible fixative, so it isn't
} appropriate to fix in pform then store in a buffer. I've stored
} animal tissue for years in pform with no problems, though I'm sure
} it's not recommended. As for pform/glut, storage after fixation in
} cacodylate buffer is good, as nothing seems to grow in cacodylate.
}
} Diana
}
} }
} } Hello,
} }
} } I'm fixing small chunks of wood in 4% phosphate buffered paraformaldehyde,
} } and separately in a Karnofsy-type (paraformaldehyde and glutaraldehyde)
} } buffered fixative. I need to store the samples for a year or more - are
} } either of these fixatives appropriate for long-term storage, and if not,
} } what are the problems (e.g., tissue hardening?). Does anyone have
} } suggestions for appropriate storage solutions, or have an idea of how long
} } is OK in either of these fixatives? The samples in paraformaldehyde are
} } used for fluorescnce microscopy, and the Karnofsky fixed samples for TEM.
} } Thanks in advance for your experience/advice.
} }
} } Rachel
} --
}
}
}
} Diana van Driel
} Department of Clinical Ophthalmology
} Sydney University
} GPO Box 4337
} Sydney NSW
} AUSTRALIA 2001
}
} Phone 61 2 938 27278/27395
} Mob 0412 165 075
} Fax 61 2 938 27318
}

----------------------------------------
Patton, David
Email: David.Patton-at-uwe.ac.uk
"University of the West of England"



From daemon Mon Jun 25 10:29:31 2001



From: Jill Verlander Reed :      verlaj-at-medicine.ufl.edu
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:19:49 -0500
Subject: EM Service vs Manufacturers

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Fellow microscopists -

Beverly Giammara wrote asking for comments about EM service providers,
other than the manufacturers, that cover the Midwest. I would be very
appreciative if anyone can offer similar information about EM Service
providers that cover Florida.

Sincerely,

Jill

Jill Verlander Reed, D.V.M.
Associate Scientist
Director, College of Medicine Electron Microscopy Core Facility
University of Florida
P.O. Box 100215
Gainesville, FL 32610
verlaj-at-medicine.ufl.edu
Phone: (352) 846-0820
Fax: (352) 846-3299


From daemon Mon Jun 25 11:03:29 2001



From: Baggethun, Paul :      Paul.Baggethun-at-alcoa.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:58:21 -0400
Subject: TEM / X-ray: Simulation of diffraction patterns

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We are currently assessing whether or not to replace our old diffraction
simulation software and would in this respect be happy to receive the advice
of the microscopy community and vendors.

The software should have the following characteristics:
* Electron diffraction simulation, kinematical as well as dynamical
calculation.
* Handle multiple reciprocal lattices in one pattern - that is - several
single crystals with different crystallography, size, shape, and orientation
relationships, as well as powder diffraction.
* Accurate intensity and structure factor determination.
* Evaluate double diffraction and crystal shape effects - streaking.
* The software should also be able to simulate X-ray diffraction patterns:
powder, Laue, Guinier.
* Support of common crystallographic/diffraction database formats.
* The software should run under Windows NT 4.5 and have a professionally
designed GUI. No compiling and linking, and no programming should be
necessary but the possibility of doing this (e.g. scripting, ActiveX,
Plug-Ins etc.) is a very positive feature.

Sincerely,
Paul Baggethun
==========================
Paul Baggethun
Alcoa Technical Center
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USA
(724) 337 1760
paul.baggethun-at-alcoa.com
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From daemon Mon Jun 25 12:34:48 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:27:30 -0400
Subject: RE: Q re: long term storage in fixative

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Dear Rachel,

Please forgive. My first rule of subjugation is: "They can only
learn and do what they are taught!" Thus, one hopes that you will NOT take
umbrage with what follows. However, your teachers, ......

As you are in such a "Divine" location, I am hesitant to suggest
anything, especially in light of your use of such holy words of biology as
"chunks" and "paraformaldehyde". I will, however, and only with great
temerity and the deepest humility, suggest that you try to gain access to a
tome of non-Harvardian origin entitled, "Principles and Techniques of
Electron Microscopy"(3d ed.), Hayat, M.A.[he once worked in Newark, NJ!!!],
CRC Press, Boca Raton, FL(1989), pp. 69-70 (sections entitled:
"Simultaneous Fixation for Light and Electron Microscopy", and "Tissue
Storage".) ISBN: 0-8493-7111-2. My humility is manifested for the
divinity, but my temerity is evoked by the ignorance. However, Hayat begins
one paragraph with the following sentence, "The size of the tissue specimen
and the objective of the study primarily determine the type of the fixative
solution to be used." He further mentions 4% formaldehyde and 1%
glutaraldehyde in a buffer at pH 7.4 with an osmolality of ~200mo for
"medium" pieces (~3mm) for longer times up to 12 months. Plants get
specific treatment on pp. 72-73. There are other books, though I must
admit, notwithstanding the efforts of Science Librarians, most of them have
been 'lifted' by the new wave of dedicated students and others during the
past 30 years. Try the 'older' members of the biology faculty -
non-molecular, if possible, - and remember that HCHO has been used in some
states to INDUCE fluorescence in tissues!

Again, PLEASE forgive. The last time I spoke to a student, a
pre-med by-the-by, I didn't understand him either.

We old-timers are severely challenged, because we were trained to:

choose a vocational path to follow,
ask questions after we had gone to the library,
judge Timothy Leary as the short form of a donkey,
understand women as a great mystery of the universe,
leave the gloves off when dissecting,
PLEASE understand, and NOT ask about the war,
use slide rules (to do logs), planimiters (to do areas), and
Leroy Lettering Sets (to label figures),
understand the divine nature of (inspiration!) discovery
take very deep breaths in the lab during days of dissection,

mix formaldehyde ("Formalin") and phenol to make good
embalming fluid,
squirt phenol on a sponge and wipe to disinfect lab benches
in bacteriology,
know that et cetera WAS Latin not Siamese(now Thai),
take deep breaths in bacteriology lab,
accumulate good books while they were relatively
inexpensive,
know that phenol was hygroscopic,
cut sections from any tissue as long as it came from an
unlabelled jar,
label the jar,
remember Latin and Greek roots (On Divinity Avenue, is that
"dis-" as in "to separate" or dice-" as in "to chop up"?),
do our income taxes on cards,
tell students off,
treat your fiancée' as the virgin you hoped she was,
know the difference between formaldehyde and
paraformaldehyde,
keep the lab windows open during dissections to keep your
eyes from burning,
cultivate your wife as your best friend,
ignore HIV and gHSV - no one had ever heard of them,
be terrified of pregnancy before marriage (the greatest
deterrent of STD's in the 20th century!), and
know the difference between discovery and invention (a la,
polymerase, la la, and the PCR, la la).

We were taught BY the organic chemists to pay very strict attention
TO the organic chemists, because they were said to know most of the
important secrets. The physical chemists, at the time, were busily
unraveling the secrets of life - only one 'A' every five years among
hundreds of chemists! Biochemists were chemists. Biologists cultured
cells, developed vaccines, cut sections, referenced papers from the 1860's,
didn't teach DNA until the early 1960's when protein genes were defeated at
the polls, and, just now, may be getting - in another decade - to the point
where the calculus may have a place in their courses.
In the 1950's, or so went the legend, Harvard Medical School
(Heaven's Gate?) sent representatives to Lehigh, where my teachers worked,
to discover the secrets of chemical pedagogy that prepared LU graduates so
well for the divine medical training some few received at the hands of
Harvard's Professeurs! The secret pedagogical trick they discovered at
Lehigh consisted of: "NO MERCY!", "NO SYMPATHY!" and "TOTAL RIGOR!", the
only means ever devised to overcome the (utter) shame of being considered
near to, but nonetheless, NOT, the equal of those "IVY" places.

If you didn't have fun, I wish you had. AND, before you store in
buffer, think about it (extraction of fixative and other things) long and
hard!

Regards,

Fred Monson

Frederick C. Monson, PhD
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging (CASI)
Schmucker II Science Center (Room: SS024(Basement))
South Church Street
West Chester, PA, 19383
MailDrop: Department of Geology/Astronomy
Phone: 610-738-0437
Fax: 610-436-3036
email: fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Please call before visiting.


} ----------
} From: Rachel Spicer
} Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 2:38 PM
} To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: Q re: long term storage in fixative
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} Hello,
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} I'm fixing small chunks of wood in 4% phosphate buffered paraformaldehyde,
} and separately in a Karnofsy-type (paraformaldehyde and glutaraldehyde)
} buffered fixative. I need to store the samples for a year or more - are
} either of these fixatives appropriate for long-term storage, and if not,
} what are the problems (e.g., tissue hardening?). Does anyone have
} suggestions for appropriate storage solutions, or have an idea of how long
} is OK in either of these fixatives? The samples in paraformaldehyde are
} used for fluorescnce microscopy, and the Karnofsky fixed samples for TEM.
} Thanks in advance for your experience/advice.
}
} Rachel
}
} ******************************************
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} Organismic and Evolutionary Biology
} Harvard University
} 16 Divinity Avenue
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From daemon Mon Jun 25 13:25:17 2001



From: Dr. Raj Lartius :      rlartius-at-novascan.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:18:45 -0500
Subject: Re: AFM

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Hello Arti,

Novascan Technologies has a great deal of experience in the area of
biochemical AFM and I'm sure we can help you with your project We have
been developing AFM products for several years, but our specialty is
fabrication of AFM probes and surfaces with specific surface chemistries.
These chemistries, for example, can be used to couple molecules to surfaces
for imaging and/or molecular characterization. Please contact us at
info-at-novascan.com or visit www.novascan.com

Best Wishes,

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From daemon Mon Jun 25 13:38:53 2001



From: Vachik Hacopian :      vhacopian-at-wellesley.edu
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:32:42 -0400
Subject: critical point dryer

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In our lab in Massachusetts, we have a Balzers CPD-020 that is in need of
repair. The pressure guage (WIKA, 0-160 bar) is leaking, and we'd like to
have it replaced. This unit was made in Switzerland, but the manufacturer
has been out-of-business for many years. We'd appreciate input from
Balzers CPD owners regarding sources for parts. Any comments concerning
safety issues would be welcomed also. Many thanks in advance.

Vachik Hacopian





From daemon Mon Jun 25 14:16:43 2001



From: Julian Martinez-Fernandez :      Julian.Martinez-Fernandez-at-grc.nasa.gov
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:11:13 -0400
Subject: High Resolution Imaging Plate Scanner for Electron Microscopy

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Does anybody have experience with High Resolution Imaging Plate Scanner for
Electron Microscopy (http://www.ditabis.de). Instead of conventional
EM-films, flexible photostimulable phosphor screens of the same size, the
so-called Imaging Plates, are loaded into the TEM magazine. Are they as
good as negatives?

Thanks,
Julian

_______________________________
Julián Martínez Fernández
Senior Research Associate
MS 106-5 Ceramic Branch
NASA Glenn Research Center
Cleveland, OH 44135
Phone: 1-216-433-5512
Fax: 1-216-433-5544



From daemon Mon Jun 25 14:56:29 2001



From: Ritchie Sims :      r.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:55:16 GMT+1200
Subject: Re: SEM: Recommendations for BSE detectors

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You may find that only the JEOL one will properly fit in, I
investigated a GW Electronics one for my JEOL 840, but they didn't
have a size that would fit exactly. Mind you, I have a (JEOL)
optical microscope fitted, and the BSE detector would have had to
fit into a severely constrained space on the end of the OM.

I would ask JEOL first, I find that their prices are sometimes better
than those from third-party suppliers anyway.


}
}
} Hello All,
} I have a Jeol 5900 SEM, and I would like to purchase a BSE detector
} for
} it. Does anyone in the group have any
} suggestions/recommendations/warnings? Is it pretty straight forward
} to purchase a third-party detector and get it to work with our
} microscope, or is it best to go through the vendor? Thank you for
} any input that you can provide.
}

cheers

rtch


Dr Ritchie Sims Phone : 64 9 3737599 ext 7713
Department of Geology Fax : 64 9 3737435
The University of Auckland email : r.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz
Private Bag 92019
Auckland
New Zealand


From daemon Mon Jun 25 17:25:25 2001



From: Gordon Vrololjak :      gvrdolja-at-nature.Berkeley.EDU
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Electroscan ESEM model E3 questions

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Hello,
We just inherited an older model (10 years old) model E-3 Electroscan
Environmental SEM. I have some questions in its operating vacuum modes as
it has been quite a bit picky since we've installed it.

On going from a standby vacuum state into either Hivac or Wet vacuum
modes, it will often have an error of can't pump column EC2. Also, in Wet
mode, it will not open valve V1, so you can never see the beam. I've read
over the manuals, but I was wondering if anyone out there has some
experience with this model ESEM. We are thinking that one of the
diffusion pump heater elements needs to be changed. Other times we
operate the unit, it will maintain a Hivac vacuum mode for several hours
without difficulty.

Any advice or comments, appreciated, Thanks.

\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
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gvrdolja-at-nature.berkeley.edu UC Berkeley
phone (510) 642-2085 Berkeley CA 94720-3330
fax (510) 643-6207 cell (510) 290-6793



From daemon Mon Jun 25 22:31:23 2001



From: Sergey Ryazantsev :      sryazant-at-ucla.edu
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:20:36 -0700
Subject: Re: High Resolution Imaging Plate Scanner for Electron

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I did study this subject a few years ago and find that this technique is
not well optimized for EM. For many reasons:

- cost of the system is similar to the EM digital camera
- you require to load/unload Imaging Plates into the cassettes (you waste
the time)
- it takes from 2 to 5 min to scan one Image Plate (waste time)
- I am not sure exactly, but seems to me, that you have to scan Image
Plates soon after tacking picture, otherwise the image will deteriorated,
and seems to me they are sensitive to light too.
- you don't have a chance to adjust your image before recording (as it
happens in case of digital cameras).
-number of "shots" is limited and Image Plates are princely
- Image Plates may be damaged during loading/unloading which may reduce
declared number of use (a few thousand times I believe).

The good things about Image Plates are:
- Image plate has more pixels than EM digital cameras, so the resolution is
better.
- you don't have to make any changes in the microscope.
- the linearity and dynamic range is similar to the EM digital cameras
- easy to use and less problem related to the equipment.

My conclusion was: technically, it's a great stuff, but it does not help in
practice. You still need some help from technician to load/unload plates
and scan them and you have to pay a 20-40$K for that beauty. Not so
promising technology for TEM at least.

This information based on my "study" performed a few years ago and may not
reflect modern improvements in this area.

Sergey.



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From daemon Tue Jun 26 01:50:29 2001



From: Sergey Ryazantsev :      sryazant-at-ucla.edu
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 23:42:25 -0700
Subject: Re: High Resolution Imaging Plate Scanner for Electron

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I was talking about particular DITABIS system Julián was mentioning in her
original message (with reference to the manufacturer).

All digital cameras including Gatans are approximately 10 times more
sensitive than 4489 film. I know it for sure because just returned back
from Gatan's demonstration. Image Plate should have very similar
characteristics in terms of sensitivity, dynamic range and linearity as
modern digital cameras. The best things about Image Plates it's their
pixel size: 5000 x 4500 total pixels per plate. It's greater than in
digital cameras: 1000x1000/2000 in most cases. It's still less than you
could get from film with $800 scanner: 6400x4800 for 1600 optical dpi.
BUT!!!
You have LOAD/UNLOAD plates into cassettes manually. In the dark. Stack
them and load into the scanner (so, you have to have space for the scanner
in dark-room). Scanner will process them automatically (and at that time
you could not use dark-room for regular things, light from scanner). Load
them back into cassettes, degas magazine and load it into microscope. I
don't remember exactly, but it seems to me the cost of one plate is
something around $100. So, I have two magazines with 50 cassettes
each: 100x100$ plus scanner plus salary for technician plus computer and
storage media. Ok, I forgot to mention that you have to ERASE plates
before use, also, using special eraser. I don't remember, how many plates
you could ERASE in one run. May be it's automatic too. Scanning: 3.5 min
per plate x 50= 3 h.

As I mentioned before, the technique is great, but not so helpful for
regular day-to-day basis EM and does not save time so much. It works fine
for molecular biology applications in "phospho-imagers" but people need to
scan a few plates per day (even one a week) and they save a lot of
time: 10-15 min exposure vs 5-10 days! I just don't see reason to switch
to this technique to myself. If I'll have such money, I would buy digital
camera. It's more practical solution from my point of view.

Sergey

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} -- [ From: Garber, Charles A. * EMC.Ver #3.1 ] --
}
} Sergey,
}
} I last saw the unit demonstrated at the EUREM meeting in Brno last summer.
} It is not as you described it. I won't say it is better but overall it is
} comparable to the Gatan product.
}
} What impressed me the most about it is that
}
} a) exposure times are comparable to what is now used for conventional film
} (the Gatan unit has long exposure times) and
}
} b) while the scanning step (of the digital plates) takes some time, it does
} it all automatically, so there is no babysitting with the scanner. You are
} free to do other things including exposing more digital plates.
}
} They might have one at the MSA meeting in Long Beach.
}
} Chuck
} SPI Supplies
} -------- REPLY, Original message follows --------
}
} } Date: Monday, 25-Jun-01 08:20 PM
} }
} } From: Ryazantsev, Sergey, Ph. D. \ Internet: (sryazant-at-ucla.edu)
} } To: Julian Martinez-Fernandez \ Internet:
} } (julian.martinez-fernandez-at-grc.na)
} } To: MICROSCOPY BB \ Internet:
} } (microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com)
} }
} } Subject: Re: High Resolution Imaging Plate Scanner for Electron
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} } I did study this subject a few years ago and find that this technique is
} not
} } well optimized for EM. For many reasons:
} }
} } - cost of the system is similar to the EM digital camera
} } - you require to load/unload Imaging Plates into the cassettes (you waste
} } the time)
} } - it takes from 2 to 5 min to scan one Image Plate (waste time)
} } - I am not sure exactly, but seems to me, that you have to scan Image
} } Plates soon after tacking picture, otherwise the image will deteriorated,
} } and seems to me they are sensitive to light too.
} } - you don't have a chance to adjust your image before recording (as it
} } happens in case of digital cameras).
} } -number of "shots" is limited and Image Plates are princely
} } - Image Plates may be damaged during loading/unloading which may reduce
} } declared number of use (a few thousand times I believe).
} }
} } The good things about Image Plates are:
} } - Image plate has more pixels than EM digital cameras, so the resolution
} is
} } better.
} } - you don't have to make any changes in the microscope.
} } - the linearity and dynamic range is similar to the EM digital cameras
} } - easy to use and less problem related to the equipment.
} }
} } My conclusion was: technically, it's a great stuff, but it does not help
} in
} } practice. You still need some help from technician to load/unload plates
} and
} } scan them and you have to pay a 20-40$K for that beauty. Not so
} promising
} } technology for TEM at least.
} }
} } This information based on my "study" performed a few years ago and may not
}
} } reflect modern improvements in this area.
} }
} } Sergey.
} }
} }
} }
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} } } Does anybody have experience with High Resolution Imaging Plate Scanner
} for
} } } Electron Microscopy (http://www.ditabis.de). Instead of conventional
} } } EM-films, flexible photostimulable phosphor screens of the same size, the
}
} } } so-called Imaging Plates, are loaded into the TEM magazine. Are they as
} } } good as negatives?
} } }
} } } Thanks,
} } } Julian
} } }
} } } _______________________________
} } } Julián Martínez Fernández
} } } Senior Research Associate
} } } MS 106-5 Ceramic Branch
} } } NASA Glenn Research Center
} } } Cleveland, OH 44135
} } } Phone: 1-216-433-5512
} } } Fax: 1-216-433-5544
} } }
} }
} } _____________________________________
} }
} } Sergey Ryazantsev Ph. D.
} } Electron Microscopy
} } UCLA School of Medicine
} } Department of Biological Chemistry
} } Box 951737
} } Los Angeles, CA 90095-1737
} }
} } Phone: (310) 825-1144
} } Pager: (310) 845-0248
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} }
} }
} }
} }
}
} -------- REPLY, End of original message --------

_____________________________________

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Electron Microscopy
UCLA School of Medicine
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Box 951737
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1737

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From daemon Tue Jun 26 06:36:45 2001



From: Steve Widing :      swiding-at-astro.ocis.temple.edu
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:28:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: High Resolution Imaging Plate Scanner for Electron Microscopy

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Julian,

I contacted ditabis several months ago. Beyond a confirmation email from
the company, I haven't received any from them.


Steve Widing
Temple University


On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Julian Martinez-Fernandez wrote:

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} Does anybody have experience with High Resolution Imaging Plate Scanner for
} Electron Microscopy (http://www.ditabis.de). Instead of conventional
} EM-films, flexible photostimulable phosphor screens of the same size, the
} so-called Imaging Plates, are loaded into the TEM magazine. Are they as
} good as negatives?
}
} Thanks,
} Julian
}
} _______________________________
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} NASA Glenn Research Center
} Cleveland, OH 44135
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} Fax: 1-216-433-5544
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}



From daemon Tue Jun 26 09:21:48 2001



From: Jensen, Karen :      Karen_Jensen-at-urmc.rochester.edu
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 09:54:21 -0400
Subject: EM Service vs Manufacturers

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Jill:

For electron microscope service try Vitaly Feingold who is based out of
Georgia. His references are excellent!! His phone number is 770-232-7785.
E-mail address is: vitalylazar-at-worldnet.att.net

-----Original Message-----
} From: Jill Verlander Reed [mailto:verlaj-at-medicine.ufl.edu]
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 12:20 PM
To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


Fellow microscopists -

Beverly Giammara wrote asking for comments about EM service
providers,
other than the manufacturers, that cover the Midwest. I would be very
appreciative if anyone can offer similar information about EM Service
providers that cover Florida.

Sincerely,

Jill

Jill Verlander Reed, D.V.M.
Associate Scientist
Director, College of Medicine Electron Microscopy Core Facility
University of Florida
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Gainesville, FL 32610
verlaj-at-medicine.ufl.edu
Phone: (352) 846-0820
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From daemon Tue Jun 26 09:22:35 2001



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From daemon Tue Jun 26 09:30:44 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:25:56 -0400
Subject: RE: Q re: long term storage in fixative

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Dear Rachel,
After an entire evening of self-immolation, I have returned to the
table to extend my apology for taking advantage of you yesterday. I really
do apologize. I looked across the table at my own daughter last evening,
and I realized that she might just have failed to see any humor at all in my
response had she requested the same information. Having realized that
possibility, I spent the rest of the evening in shock at my probable
insensitivity.
As an explanation, you received, in response to your entirely
innocent query, a message composed of every quip I have wanted to make to my
children, their teachers, their teachers' parents, my students, and probably
a few I can't remember. I thought to make it humorous, and there are some
who have decided that I succeeded, but I would suspect that you may have
felt somewhat differently. Thus, this message in self-rebuttal. Not nearly
as long, and hopefully more to the point.
If you had walked into my office with the question you asked, I
would have said, "Miss Spicer, we do not use words like "chunks" to describe
specimens from which we wish to extract reasonable scientific information."
You would have responded with some other nebulous term for the objects with
which you were contesting, and I would have cajoled you, with a couple
suggestions on precision in thinking and describing, to go to the library
and start doing what you are obviously trying to learn how to do - namely,
research.
So, please let me begin again. My second rule is: "They only learn
to think if they are forced." In that regard, I would have requested that
you make a list of the steps in the process you are asked implement. For
each step in such a process, there must be a purpose. For each step, there
must be a prescribed outcome (I have come to despise that word!), and for
each step, there must be BACKGROUND/HISTORY. My third rule is this. "The
most difficult, and the most successful research for a bench scientist is
done in the brain, the office, and/or the library." The work at the bench
only certifies or debunks what was done before, but the same principal holds
for even the most minor part of the process.
You suggest that you must to store plant/wood tissue for a year.
Most of us would want to know why? Why must you wait to at least embed.
Why would you want to soak/extract the tissue for that length of time before
acting on the NEXT step in the procedure. It is apparently not that you
wish to archive the tissue/wood. So, with your list in your hand, the
question for that step is, "Why?" "What is the purpose/reason for waiting?"
I certainly cannot help you to progress in the trek to an answer
until I know. Why? I'll give you an example.
There was an undergraduate who accosted me in the hall during my
first week as a graduate student. He asked me to point him in the direction
of distilled water. I asked him what type he wanted. He assumed I was
harassing him and told me to knock off the B.S. and just, "point!" I did.
Unfortunately, his purpose was to subculture honey bee cells, and the
'distilled' water to which I pointed - the nearest - was made in a chromium
plated metal still. Notwithstanding his rudeness, I should have insisted -
through instruction, but I was fresh out of the military and I didn't have
any time left for stupidity and self-destructiveness, Fourteen weeks
later, he blamed me for the failure of his project - my first real interface
with a baby boomer of the 'gimmee' type. I only felt sympathy for the
instructor, but his advice (he had been in the military too) was to learn to
take responsibility for the errors of students, for, someday I would be
their teacher.

Over the past thirty years, what was a two-way street in learning
when I was a student, has become one-way.
I guess the ultimate point is this. If you are working on someone
else's project, show him or her my notes. If you are working on a project
of your own, and you are willing to exercise patience and learn, then when
you ask for information from us - the MSA ListServer - you must provide us
with specific information. I can promise you that you failed to receive
many responses, because your question lacked three elements:

1. Precise terminology.
2. Purpose/Goal/Reason for need.
3. Trust.

Everyone on the ListServer has a job or values his/her time.
Your request was informal in form, because it lacked 1) precise detail, 2)
a reason for wanting to delay further processing (that would be important
for any specific response), and 3) trust in us to be honest brokers and not
steal your project or question its value. Far too many visitors to the
Listserver ask a question as if in class, at the end of a lecture. We all
came in late.

I hope you want to try again, if what little you have
received has not helped. We would like to help as much as possible. We are
here for that. Not for entertainment. I am here, because when I read the
messages, I learn or have questions that I can address. I am here to be
educated, just like you.

With closing apology for wordiness and philosophy, I am

Yours sincerely,

Fred Monson


Frederick C. Monson, PhD
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging (CASI)
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West Chester, PA, 19383
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Please call before visiting.





} ----------
} From: Rachel Spicer
} Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 2:38 PM
} To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: Q re: long term storage in fixative
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} Hello,
}
} I'm fixing small chunks of wood in 4% phosphate buffered paraformaldehyde,
} and separately in a Karnofsy-type (paraformaldehyde and glutaraldehyde)
} buffered fixative. I need to store the samples for a year or more - are
} either of these fixatives appropriate for long-term storage, and if not,
} what are the problems (e.g., tissue hardening?). Does anyone have
} suggestions for appropriate storage solutions, or have an idea of how long
} is OK in either of these fixatives? The samples in paraformaldehyde are
} used for fluorescnce microscopy, and the Karnofsky fixed samples for TEM.
} Thanks in advance for your experience/advice.
}
} Rachel
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From daemon Tue Jun 26 10:27:40 2001



From: Rachel Spicer :      spicer-at-oeb.harvard.edu
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:25:19 -0400
Subject: thanks re: long term storage

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Thanks to all who responded to my post re: long term storage of plant
material in fixatives. The responses were as varied as the recommendations
in the literature, but I find there is no substitute for hearing from those
with first hand experience. If anyone is interested in the specifics I'd
be happy to forward a collection of relevant responses. And finally,
apologies for my misspelling of "Karnovsky". Thanks again.

Rachel

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Biological Laboratories 3119
Organismic and Evolutionary Biology
Harvard University
16 Divinity Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02138

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From daemon Tue Jun 26 12:05:04 2001



From: Tyrone L. Daulton :      tdaulton-at-nrlssc.navy.mil
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:32:23 -0500
Subject: imaging plates

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Gordon -

Congratulations on your E3 acquisition - they're generally easy-running
instruments once you get the preliminary bugs out.
I've been running an older E3 for the past few years, but that doesn't
make me an expert on them. Your vacuum problems sound a little funny - have
you checked that both diff pumps are hot to the touch? If one is cold (the
one on the right hand side of the column, viewed from the front, that could
explain part of the problem. If it is, try the reset button on its "front"
side, and check cooling water flow to make sure it's adequate. Somebody good
with electrical stuff (I'm not) can probably determine whether or not your
diff pump element is still good.
We once had V1 stick a bit, obstructing the beam, but were able to free
it up by reversing the compressed air flow momentarily. You can actually
watch it open and close if you remove the sheet-metal shroud on the left
(the one with the black cylindrical receptacle for the gun for those times
when you've pulled the gun - I know, I thought it was a cup holder at first,
too, but believe me, it isn't...)
The E3 is still supported by FEI, though, and I've always found their
guys pretty good about being able to fix things over the phone, even without
a service contract. You can get their phone numbers, etc from the site
www.feicompany.com. The guys in the Peabody, Mass. office should be able to
help you through this one - that's where your E3 was born.
Hope this helps.....

Frank Thomas
MicroAnalysis Facility
Geological Survey of Canada (Atlantic)
Bedford Institute of Oceanography
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
Canada


----- Original Message -----
} From: "Gordon Vrololjak" {gvrdolja-at-nature.Berkeley.EDU}
To: {microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com}
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 7:11 PM


Julian asked if imaging plates are “as good as negatives”. There are
advantages and disadvantages to all imaging systems. In some instances
CCD cameras are preferable to film, in other instances film is superior
(especially if wide field of view is a factor). What is best to use
largely depends on the details of your experiment. I thought I would
provide some information on imaging plate systems, and indicate one
strong advantage the technology has over other recording media/systems.

Image plate systems use the "photostimulated luminescence" (PSL)
phenomenon. Regions in PSL materials that have been previously exposed
to a short wave length irradiation, will luminesce when stimulated by a
second longer wavelength irradiation. The stored energy is stable until
released by the second irradiation. Imaging plates are made using PSL
films of barium fluorobromide (= 5 µm grain size), containing a trace
amount of bivalent europium as a luminescence center, which are
uniformly coated on a polyester support. Imaging plates replace
conventional photoemulsion film in the transmission electron microscope
and are exposed the same as normal film. To read the recorded image,
the imaging plate is latter scanned by a red diode laser and the
luminescence is collected through a light collection guide to the
photo-multiplier tube (PMT). The analog current produced by the PMT is
converted to a 8 to 16 bit depth digital signal. The pixel density can
be read at between 50 to 400 pixels/cm. Imaging plates can be fully
erased for reuse, but have a finite lifetime.

One main advantage of PSL films in their ultrahigh sensitivity (e.g. 2
x 10-14 - 2 x 10-9 C-cm-2 at 100 kV) to electron irradiation making them
valuable for biological work (these are values quoted by a manufacturer
Fuji). For example, film emulsions require 0.1 to 1 C-cm-2 to record an
optical density S = 1 at 100 k magnification (see Reimer, 1975). Slow
scan CCD cameras offer better sensitivity than film, however are
inadequate for imaging certain biological specimens.  Furthermore,
CCD cameras have limited fields of view as compared to film. As an
example, Sugi (1997) and coworkers have used a Fuji imaging plate system
to record micrographs of myosin head movement induced by ATP hydrolysis
in an environmental cell TEM. I avoided using the term “living myosin”
since a biomolecule is not strictly alive, but it was biologically
active. Electron doses low enough not to damage the delicate
biomolecule could be used to record images on an imaging plate.

Reimer, L. (1975) in Physical Aspects of Electron Microscopy and
Microbeam Analysis, eds B. M. Siegel, and D. R. Beaman, John Wiley &
Sons Publishers, New York, New York, 231-245.

Sugi, H., Akimoto, T., Sutoh, K., Chaen, S., Oishi, N., and Suzuki, S.
(1997) Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA 94, 4378-4382.


} } } Does anybody have experience with High Resolution Imaging Plate
Scanner
} for
} } } Electron Microscopy (http://www.ditabis.de). Instead of
conventional
} } } EM-films, flexible photostimulable phosphor screens of the same
size, the
} } } so-called Imaging Plates, are loaded into the TEM magazine. Are
they as
} } } good as negatives?
} } }
} } } Thanks,
} } } Julian
} } }
} } } _______________________________
} } } Julián Martínez Fernández
} } } Senior Research Associate
} } } MS 106-5 Ceramic Branch
} } } NASA Glenn Research Center
} } } Cleveland, OH 44135
} } } Phone: 1-216-433-5512
} } } Fax: 1-216-433-5544
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Physicist and Senior Electron Microscopist

Naval Research Laboratory
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Stennis Space Center, MS 39529-5004

Voice (228)-688-4877
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From daemon Tue Jun 26 15:27:51 2001



From: Thearith H. Ung :      tung-at-qdots.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:28:29 -0700
Subject: RE: TEM nanoparticle contrast

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Thanks so much Charles. I just wonder why I did not know that such grids are
available. I use JEOL 200CX TEM to look at nanoparticles. What is the
thinnest window grid do you recommend?

Regards,

Thearith

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This has become quite a generic problem for many who are working with nano
size particles, and many have found the "solution" to be the use of silicon
nitride membrane window grids that have been offered by SPI Supplies for
several years. Information about these grids can be found on URL
http://www.2spi.com/catalog/instruments/silicon-nitride.html

The silicon nitride is completely structureless and featureless and seems to
provide excellent electron transparency. The other advantage is that they
are sufficiently robust to survive temperatures in excess of 1000° C. And
there is no carbon grain to be confused with the nanoparticles of interest.

Disclaimer: SPI Supplies offers silicon nitride membrane window grids for
this type of application.

Chuck

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From daemon Tue Jun 26 16:15:32 2001



From: Lou Bustillos :      lbustillos-at-amalab.com
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 17:03:30 -0400
Subject: Looking for a "HAXI" kit for a JEOL TEM.

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Hello,

We are in the process of purchasing an EDS system for our JEOL 100 CX II
TEM microscope. We would like to have the EDS system installed at a high
angle but we need a "HAXI" kit in order for the EDS system to be installed
correctly.

Does anyone have a "HAXI" kit for purchase?

Thank you,

Lou Bustillos
AMA Analytical Services, Inc.
lbustillos-at-amalab.com





From daemon Tue Jun 26 17:08:55 2001



From: Lucille A. Giannuzzi :      lag-at-mail.ucf.edu
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:01:58 -0400
Subject: imaging plates in the physical sciences

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The Image plate system is awesome for materials applications as well.... !!

It is very easy to obtain diffraction patterns that include varying
intensities (e.g., a spot pattern mixed with Kikuchi lines) with just one
exposure on a single plate. The plates also show the slightest deviations
in contrast which are not discernable using film, a CCD camera, or the TEM
viewing screen. For example, differences in contrast in amorphous silicon
oxide due to the multiple processing steps in integrated circuits may be
easily observed with the plates. The advantage in the plates is evident in
the low to intermediate magnification ranges where large variations in
image contrast can be manipulated off-line. Each IP file is quite large
(25MB) and therefore, contains plenty of information which can be
manipulated before reducing its size that is suitable for publication
purposes. The disadvantages to the IPs are the cost (although I believe
the cost is dropping) and the extra processing time needed (~ 80 minutes
for a batch of 32 plates).

The CCD camera is still very useful in the high resolution imaging regime
where the intensity is rather uniform throughout the field of view and one
can instantly observe the quality of the image. We will be evaluating high
resolution CCD images with high resolution images obtained with the IPs in
the near future. We are not sure what effect (if any) vibrations from the
film mechanism will have on the high resolution images.

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Lucille A. Giannuzzi, Ph.D.

Associate Professor, Mechanical, Materials, and Aerospace Engineering
Director, UCF/Cirent Materials Characterization Facility
University of Central Florida
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From daemon Tue Jun 26 21:08:24 2001



From: Paul Webster :      pwebster-at-hei.org
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:56:50 -0700
Subject: Re: long-term storage OR what has happened?

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Dear Colleagues,

The messages from Professor Monson in reply to a question about long-term
tissue storage makes me wonder what has happened to this listserver?

His message was highly entertaining and even if the poster of the original
message may have felt "picked on", there was no reason to expect him to post
an apology, no matter how informative it was.

Far too many posters use this listserver as a way of finding a quick fix to
simple solutions to technical problems that can be easily researched in text
books.

Often these messages contain little background information on the technical
problem under investigation. Even so, many of these questions get full
attention and detailed replies, even if the replies are not posted on the
main list for public view.

What has happened to the free and open discussion of issues and protocols
that we used to have? Are people so afraid of being accused of being
incorrect that they do not post their replies openly? Or maybe people are
afraid of being accused of being impolite.

I look forward to controversy and hope that my comments are read carefully
and replied to with vigor. Only in this way will I be able to learn new
thing, and this is the main reason I still subscribe to this listserver.

If I am factually wrong about something, tell me. It is better to find this
out on the listserver than in a more professional (or cruel) environment.

As for discussion subjects: why was there no comment about the unadvisable
suggestion made about storing samples in a frozen state? Would anyone
working with EM really choose to store their samples at -20 degrees before
processing for TEM?

Where is all the discussion about extraction that can occur when storing
samples in alcohols or buffers, or on the contamination that I know grows in
everyones old cacodylate buffers?

Do we not comment because we know it has all been published in textbooks?

Dear Profesor Monson, do not feel bad about improving our general knowledge
and our professional etiquette. I for one support your views and find your
comments useful and entertaining. Please keep up your submissions.

Best regards,

Paul Webster


Paul Webster, Ph.D.
Scientist II and Director
Ahmanson Center for Advanced EM & Imaging
House Ear Institute
2100 West 3rd Street
Los Angeles
CA 90057

pwebster-at-hei.org
p: 213 273 8026
f: 213 413 6739
http://www.hei.org/research/depts/aemi/aemi.htm







From daemon Tue Jun 26 22:06:02 2001



From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 23:00:37 -0500
Subject: Rare earth standards

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-- [ From: Garber, Charles A. * EMC.Ver #3.1 ] --

Scotty Cornelius wrote:
============================================
In a far corner of my mind, I vaguely remember a set of rare earth glass
standards that had been developed and were being offered for sale a few
years ago, possibly out of the UK. Does anyone know of such a set, or was
it all a pipe dream? I'm not referring to the Drake and Weill standards
from the early '70s.
================================================
Could you have in mind our (e.g. SPI Supplies) "15 Rare Earth 'Five
Phosphates' Standards" for Microanalysis? They can be found on URL
http://www.2spi.com/catalog/standards/reepo/reepo.html

At one point, we had inadvertently listed these as "glasses" when in fact
they are crystals. So we might have been ourselves the cause of some
confusion.

Chuck

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From daemon Wed Jun 27 00:49:17 2001



From: Sally Stowe :      STOWE-at-rsbs.anu.edu.au
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:41:15 +1000
Subject: Re: High Resolution Imaging Plate Scanner for Electron

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We have just been testing the Ditabis IP scanner and were impressed.

It doesnt quite replace film or I think a good small-pixel below-screen CCD camera for resolution, but is much better than a whole field above screen CCD camera for resolution, and for dynamic range is in a class by itself.

We tested with diffraction patterns showing bright and dim diffuse features, convergent beam patterns, wedge-profile ion beam thinned sections, and normal and unstained biological material.

For low dose work, 1-2 seconds exposure at beam intensities barely visible to the eye was no problem. The resolution problem may be avoidable in practice because images may be taken at higher magnifications and lower beam intensities than normal for film - that is just a question of getting used to matching the imaging conditions to a different medium.

PLate handling is easy. The plates are loaded into the TEM magazine in the light. AFter electron exposure they are kept dark, but loaded into the scanner under light as dim as convenient - we used the light from the monitor screen.

Storing the plates for up to five days made only a very small difference to the intensity histogram - we didnt test beyond that. Plates can also be rescanned with very little loss.

The only real inconvienience we found was the impossibility of recording plate number, mag etc on the IP plate, as we are used to on the negative. If we had our own system we would mark the plates permanently in some way that showed on the readout.

IP plates are complementary to CCD cameras in some respects. You dont get the advantages of immediate viewing, but more dynamic range, more pixels, and of course one scanner can take plates from any number of TEMs.
Finally, the price was the sticking point for us at this time. But if a cooperative lab somewhere else on this continent gets one we would likely buy a set of plates and work through the postal system until the price drops or somebody comes up with a "must have" application!

regards
Sally Stowe


Dr Sally Stowe
Facility Coordinator,
ANU Electron Microscopy Unit
Research School of Biological Sciences
Australian National University
Canberra ACT0200
AUSTRALIA
stowe-at-rsbs.anu.edu.au fax 61 (0)2 6125 3218
ph 02 6125 2743
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Does anybody have experience with High Resolution Imaging Plate Scanner for
Electron Microscopy (http://www.ditabis.de). Instead of conventional
EM-films, flexible photostimulable phosphor screens of the same size, the
so-called Imaging Plates, are loaded into the TEM magazine. Are they as
good as negatives?

Thanks,
Julian

_______________________________
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From daemon Wed Jun 27 08:01:53 2001



From: Nora Pratta- Silvia Montoro :      csedax-at-ceride.gov.ar
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:58:08 -0300
Subject: Printing greyscale images

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Hi,

I have downloaded from Lumijet4s home page information about
the Preservation Monochrome Inks they commercialize for jetink printers, a
sort of special ink for good image tonality and permanence. Has any one had
any experience with that product? or any other like that?

Regular black ink cartridge would be enough por good quality greyscale
printing???

Thanks a lot,

Silvia Montoro
Centro Regional de Investigacisn y Desarrollo de Santa Fe (CERIDE)
G|emes 3450
3000 Santa Fe



From daemon Wed Jun 27 08:51:21 2001



From: Michael L. Boucher :      mboucher-at-tc.umn.edu
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 08:47:24 -0500
Subject: ESEM E3

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We also have an E3 and have had our share of vacuum problems. Last year the
vacuum had gotten to the point that we needed to do something. Another
employee and I took all the valves off and removed the diffusion pumps. We
cleaned up the pumps and added oil. Then we replaced all the o-rings in the
couplings and valves and diff pumps. (basically they were all flat) After
that the vacuum was as good as when we first got it and pumping down was
much faster. This is something that probably should be done every 10 years
whether it needs it or not!
We also had some mysterious water loss from the chiller for over a year that
finally appeared as a major water leak at the diff pump tubing. We cut off
the brittle parts and reconnected. Cooling was better and vacuum too.
Of course you should be sure all your vacuum pumps are up to the job,
particularly the large pump used for the column. The vacuum hose that goes
between the 2 diff pumps should have a metal cover on it to protect it from
the heat. It does become brittle and should be checked for leaks. We
replaced ours as well.
As others have mentioned, the E3 is still supported and although we also do
not have a service contract, the engineers at FEI versed in the E3 are VERY
helpful, patient and willing to troubleshoot a problem over the phone! Good
luck!
Regards,
Mike
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From daemon Wed Jun 27 09:46:09 2001



From: Philip Oshel :      peoshel-at-facstaff.wisc.edu
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:45:06 -0500
Subject: Hitachi S-570 LaB6 crystal & Wehnelt

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If anyone has a Hitachi S-570 with LaB6 that they are getting rid of,
we would be interested in any left-over LaB6 crystals mounted in the
Wehnelts. Thanks!

Probably today's humor, but hey, it's worth a try.

Phil
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From daemon Wed Jun 27 10:09:37 2001



From: jfb :      jfb-at-uidaho.edu
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 08:03:22 -0700
Subject: Re: long-term storage OR what has happened?

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Paul,
While you are correct in stating that the answers to many of the
questions asked on this listserver are easily found in a number of
available texts, many of the libraries at smaller colleges and
universities do not have the funds to maintain an extensive section
dedicated to electron microscopy or even microscopy in general.
Therefore, those books could be days away via inter-library loan. I
always looked at this server as a gathering of some of the great minds
in microscopy and a "mother lode" of information based purely on
experience, if nothing else. Being a one man show at a small
university, I am constantly bombarded with questions about various
techniques from investigators throughout the sciences, and have utilized
this source many time for answers to those inquiries. There are no
stupid questions, only ignorant people asking those questions; and
intelligent, informed and timely answers will make those folks somewhat
less ignorant.
I am now getting down from the soapbox.

Franklin Bailey
Electron Microscopy Center
University of Idaho
Moscow, ID 83844-2204



From daemon Wed Jun 27 10:18:22 2001



From: Xudong Fan :      fanx-at-msu.edu
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:16:22 -0400
Subject: Philips CM-10 TEM available now

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Our Philips CM-10 transmission electron microscope is now for sale by
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From daemon Wed Jun 27 10:46:32 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:41:11 -0400
Subject: RE: thanks re: long term storage

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Dear Rachel,
Let me add.
1. On storage in buffer: NOT recommended by all my
experience and all who have ever advised me.
2. On storage in fixative: NOT recommended as above,
always because of unknown variables.
3. On fluorescence microscopy after HCHO: HCHO (dry)
has been used to induce fluorescence in so-called biogenic amines (incl.,
decarboxylated amino acids). One never knows what else it may do during
long residence. Ask yourself: Do you want fluorescence of fixed wood or
wood?
4. One cannot fix with paraformaldehyde (not your
fault). It is a polymer of HCHO and must be depolymerized to yield full
methanalic (arch.) power! This (depolymerization) can occur when
paraformaldehyde is suspended in a neutral or slightly basic buffer and
permitted to stand for a while or heated briefly to 50-60degreesC.

The real identity of paraformaldehyde was the only thing I remember
from my failed first course in freight-train organic chemistry [A carload of
this and a carload of that yields half a carload of something else!]. A
second foray into mechanistic organic went much better.

Summary: Old-timers stored materials to save information.
Young folks can't afford the luxury if they want to collect data.

Moral: If you can have some tea while he vents, you might
survive to get some solid advice.

Final Regards,

Fred Monson,



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} with first hand experience. If anyone is interested in the specifics I'd
} be happy to forward a collection of relevant responses. And finally,
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From daemon Wed Jun 27 10:51:11 2001



From: NPGSlithography-at-aol.com
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:47:03 EDT
Subject: Re: EM Service vs Manufacturers

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A list of independent EM service providers can be found at
"www.jcnabity.com/service.htm".

Note that their "service areas" are not necessarily limited to the "location"
that is listed.

If anyone has additional information that can be included on this list,
please let me know. Any suggestions for independent EM service providers
that are based overseas will also be appreciated.

Joe
_________________________________________
Joe Nabity, Ph.D.
JC Nabity Lithography Systems
E-Beam Lithography using Commercial SEMs & STEMs
PO Box 5354, Bozeman, MT 59717 USA
Voice: (406) 587-0848
FAX: (406) 586-9514
E-mail: info-at-jcnabity.com
Web: www.jcnabity.com

In a message dated 6/25/2001 2:59:20 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
verlaj-at-medicine.ufl.edu writes:

} Beverly Giammara wrote asking for comments about EM service providers,
} other than the manufacturers, that cover the Midwest. I would be very
} appreciative if anyone can offer similar information about EM Service
} providers that cover Florida.
}
} Sincerely,
}
} Jill
}
} Jill Verlander Reed, D.V.M.
} Associate Scientist
} Director, College of Medicine Electron Microscopy Core Facility
} University of Florida
} P.O. Box 100215
} Gainesville, FL 32610
} verlaj-at-medicine.ufl.edu
} Phone: (352) 846-0820
} Fax: (352) 846-3299
}




From daemon Wed Jun 27 11:00:42 2001



From: Shea Miller :      millers-at-em.agr.ca
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:00:23 -0400
Subject: immunofluorescence on plants

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Hello everyone:
I have a student who wants to do some immunolocalization of a protein in plant tissue. I have been combing my files, but haven't managed to find a decent protocol that she could work from... (and can't seem to get myself to the library for a more comprehensive search). Can anyone supply us with a "generic" protocol for immunofluorescence in plants?

Thanks so much in advance
shea





From daemon Wed Jun 27 12:33:01 2001



From: Smartech :      smartech-at-optonline.net
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:32:56 -0400
Subject: Metallurgy, Weld Failure Analysis, SEM Analysis

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A customer of mine sent a part that has started showing a failure only
recently, although he has manufactured the part for years. The part is a
heating element. It consists of a thick SS rod which is the terminal. It
has a diameter of about 1 cm. It is joined to an element that is about 2 mm
in diameter. The joint is made by 1st drilling the thick stock and then
inserting the wire into the hole. Then a notch is made in the thick stock
until the thin element is exposed. Then the notched surface is welded
without the introduction of any new material. I believe it is a "TIG" weld.
A standardless analysis of the terminal shows Fe (82%), Cr(13%), Al(3%),
Si(1.6%), and Mn (.3%). He has tried to match the two materials as closely
as possible.

The joint is heated repeatedly, as it is used as an element in a glass
furnace. The failure starts with a bulk flow of material out the top of the
hole, which is about 1.5-2.0 cm from the welded joint/notch, and over the
sides of the terminal. I have analyzed this material and it contains
principally Fe and O. The area I analyzed was polished so the internal
composition of the flowed material contains a great deal of oxygen. No Cr
is detected and very little Al.

I feel that this material flow degrades the joint causing the various
electrical failures that have been observed.

My questions are:

Is this a typical failure mode with a Fe/Cr SS weld experiencing many heat
cycles?

What is the mechanism that results with the crystalline appearance of the
iron oxide, leaving the other elements behind?

This failures appears to have started when a new aqueous lubricant was
introduced for the initial hole drilling of the terminal. Could this play a
role in the failure?

What measures might be taken to reduce the frequency of this failure mode?
Joint design? Material compatibility?


Thanks in advance!

Ric

SMARTech
860-491-3299
www.semguy.com
19 Cornwall Drive
Goshen CT 06756



From daemon Wed Jun 27 15:19:27 2001



From: Ping Li :      pli-at-is.dal.ca
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 17:10:28 -0300
Subject: Re: sharpening diamond knives

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Hi, could anyone please give me some information on where I can get my
diamond knives (for semi thin sectioning) sharpened? Any such places in
Canada? I believe the knives were made in Germany. Any information is
highly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Ping



From daemon Wed Jun 27 15:46:17 2001



From: Jon Hiller :      hiller-at-anl.gov
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:41:25 -0500
Subject: FIB-need micromanipulator info

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Listers,

I would like to gather some information from the micromanipulator
community. Specifically, this tool will be used for lamella extraction
after the FIB work is done. We will be in the market to purchase one in the
upcoming months so I'm starting my homework early. Ideally, this will be a
dedicated station with an anti vibration table along with the optical
microscope. Some questions are:
1) Motorized vs manual
2) Objective lens working distance
3) Probe resolution
4) Sensitivity (microns per degree)

Any comments or suggestions are welcomed!

Thank you,

Jon Hiller

==================================================================
Jon M. Hiller
Argonne National Laboratory
Materials Science Division
Electron Microscopy Center
Tel: 630-252-9558
Fax: 630-252-4798
Email: hiller-at-anl.gov
==================================================================



From daemon Wed Jun 27 16:26:53 2001



From: sghoshro-at-NMSU.Edu
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:20:05 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: immunofluorescence on plants

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Shea,

There is a wonderful protocol for immunofluorescence in a manual which I
use for most of my Arabidopsis work.

Methods in Plant Molecular Biology
A laboratory course manual
Maliga, Klessig, Cashmore, Gruissem, Varner
Cold Spring Harbor Lab Press

Good luck,

Soumitra


*************************************************************
Soumitra Ghoshroy Ph.D.
Director, Electron Microscopy Lab
Graduate Faculty, Department of Biology
Box 3EML
New Mexico State University
Las Cruces, NM 88003
Tel: 505-646-3600
Fax: 505-646-5665
e-mail:sghoshro-at-nmsu.edu
URL:http://confocal.nmsu.edu/eml

On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Shea Miller wrote:

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} Hello everyone:
} I have a student who wants to do some immunolocalization of a protein in plant tissue. I have been combing my files, but haven't managed to find a decent protocol that she could work from... (and can't seem to get myself to the library for a more comprehensive search). Can anyone supply us with a "generic" protocol for immunofluorescence in plants?
}
} Thanks so much in advance
} shea
}
}
}
}
}



From daemon Wed Jun 27 16:32:21 2001



From: White, Woody N. :      nwwhite-at-mcdermott.com
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:16:20 -0500
Subject: RE: Metallurgy, Weld Failure Analysis, SEM Analysis

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Hello Ric,

What is the composition of the heating element? The S.Steel terminal is not
a common (to me) stainless, given the composition you obtained. I would
have to check references to see what it may match. I work mostly with
austenitic stainless and nickel super alloys when it comes to "SS".

I suspect the welling up of oxide from the joint/hole is a symptom rather
than a cause of the failure. Contact area and/or conductor size reduction
will (all else being the same) cause a hot spot. What is the shape of the
FeOxide crystals? Sounds like you may have magnetite, a stochiometry often
formed under oxygen starved (but still oxidizing) environment.

I would question the customer carefully about process conditions which
result in failure. What is the composition of the lube? If residue
remains, it could surely play a role in the corrosion. Are there any
differences in glass chemistry or temperatures compared to the non-failed
parts? What environment is "seen" by the joint? -} In the Glass, near it?
Glass chemistry? If near it, what is the atmosphere? Temperatures? Heating
power/time curve the same (i.e. any localized I2R heating of joint)? Getting
accurate and complete information from customers is sometimes the most
difficult part of failure analysis. ...Especially if it is second hand.

Too much weld heat can "sensitize" some alloys (changes carbon/carbides),
reducing resistance to corrosives. The failure mode, however, is most often
intergranular cracking and (again) I am not familiar with the
characteristics of your composition.

So many questions, so few answers, sorry!

Woody


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}
} A customer of mine sent a part that has started showing a failure only
} recently, although he has manufactured the part for years.
} The part is a
} heating element. It consists of a thick SS rod which is the
} terminal. It
} has a diameter of about 1 cm. It is joined to an element
} that is about 2 mm
} in diameter. The joint is made by 1st drilling the thick
} stock and then
} inserting the wire into the hole. Then a notch is made in
} the thick stock
} until the thin element is exposed. Then the notched surface is welded
} without the introduction of any new material. I believe it
} is a "TIG" weld.
} A standardless analysis of the terminal shows Fe (82%),
} Cr(13%), Al(3%),
} Si(1.6%), and Mn (.3%). He has tried to match the two
} materials as closely
} as possible.
}
} The joint is heated repeatedly, as it is used as an element in a glass
} furnace. The failure starts with a bulk flow of material out
} the top of the
} hole, which is about 1.5-2.0 cm from the welded joint/notch,
} and over the
} sides of the terminal. I have analyzed this material and it contains
} principally Fe and O. The area I analyzed was polished so
} the internal
} composition of the flowed material contains a great deal of
} oxygen. No Cr
} is detected and very little Al.
}
} I feel that this material flow degrades the joint causing the various
} electrical failures that have been observed.
}
} My questions are:
}
} Is this a typical failure mode with a Fe/Cr SS weld
} experiencing many heat
} cycles?
}
} What is the mechanism that results with the crystalline
} appearance of the
} iron oxide, leaving the other elements behind?
}
} This failures appears to have started when a new aqueous lubricant was
} introduced for the initial hole drilling of the terminal.
} Could this play a
} role in the failure?
}
} What measures might be taken to reduce the frequency of this
} failure mode?
} Joint design? Material compatibility?
}
}
} Thanks in advance!
}
} Ric
}
} SMARTech
} 860-491-3299
} www.semguy.com
} 19 Cornwall Drive
} Goshen CT 06756
}
}


From daemon Wed Jun 27 17:47:58 2001



From: Christine Edly :      cedly-at-ou.edu
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 17:42:41 -0500
Subject: immersion oil remover?

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Greetings!

I'm in search of something that will remove immersion oil from slides of

blood smears (no coverslips) without damaging the specimens. A friend
told that such a chemical exists, but could not remember the name. It
supposedly smells like oranges, and xylene was once used for the same
purpose. If you have any ideas as to the name of this mystery chemical,

I'd sure appreciate it.

Regards,
Christine Edly
University of Oklahoma


From daemon Wed Jun 27 23:32:15 2001



From: Ingrid R. Niesman :      iniesman-at-ixpres.com
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 21:20:19 -0700
Subject: nitrocellulose filters

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Does anyone know the best method for embedding 0.45um nitrocellose filter for TEM
thin sectioning? We have been filtering vesicle preparations onto these filters and
wish to examine them by TEM analysis for immunolabelling. Our 2 previous attempts
with Epon mixtures and minimal intermediate solvent changes have lead to poorly
polymerized blocks and dissolving membranes. Currently we are trying LR White as a
substitute. Any help would be great.
Thank you.
Ingrid Niesman
SRA III Farquhar/Palade Lab
UCSD


From daemon Thu Jun 28 03:04:26 2001



From: Ian MacLaren :      maclaren-at-hrem.mpi-stuttgart.mpg.de
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:56:16 +0200
Subject: DTSA

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Dear all,
Is the DTSA (Desk Top Spectrum Analyzer) package available for PC or only
for Mac? I looked on the NIST web site but couldn't find information (and
their internal search engine was broken).

Thanks for any leads you can give.

Ian MacLaren
Max Planck Institut für Metallforschung, Seestraße 92,
70174 Stuttgart, Germany
Email: ian.maclaren-at-physics.org / maclariz-at-yahoo.co.uk
Home page: http://members.tripod.co.uk/IanMacLaren/



From daemon Thu Jun 28 06:04:32 2001



From: Patton, David :      David.Patton-at-uwe.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:53:49 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
Subject: Re: immersion oil remover?

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I have no idea if it works for your purpose, but the
xylene substitute smelling of oranges is called Histoclear.

Dave


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} I'm in search of something that will remove immersion oil from slides of
}
} blood smears (no coverslips) without damaging the specimens. A friend
} told that such a chemical exists, but could not remember the name. It
} supposedly smells like oranges, and xylene was once used for the same
} purpose. If you have any ideas as to the name of this mystery chemical,
}
} I'd sure appreciate it.
}
} Regards,
} Christine Edly
} University of Oklahoma
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From daemon Thu Jun 28 06:46:08 2001



From: Gareth Morgan :      Gareth.Morgan-at-impi.ki.se
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:45:11 +0200
Subject: Re: immersion oil remover?

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Hi

I have used the 'orangey' smelling solvent under the brandname of
Histoclear. It is supposedly extracted large scale from citrus peel and is
the composed of the 'zest' that comes out as a spray when we peel oranges.

I couldn't comment on its use for removing immersion oil as you describe. I
have only used it as a xylene substitute for tissue processing tissues and
also for clearing stained sections prior to mounting.

It is said to be safer than xylene but some of the people I worked with at
the time complained of headaches so we stopped using it despite never
proving that it was the cause of the headaches.

Hope this helps!



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Gareth

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http://www.ki.se/biomedlab e-mail Gareth.Morgan-at-impi.ki.se

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From daemon Thu Jun 28 07:13:44 2001



From: Sousan Abolhassani :      sousan.abolhassani-at-psi.ch
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:07:28 +0200
Subject: Re: long-term storage OR what has happened?

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Paul,

The point about this server is that it is used by
a very heterogeneous public from which a non-exclusive
list is the following:

students,
professors,
scientists/
researchers
technical staffs
suppliers
producers
specialists
non-specialists
etc.
etc.
etc.

and all these from so many different backgrounds with so
many different problems and even from so many different countries...
That if we want to teach all of them to behave as we expect
before they post a query, the server could go to early retirement.

I guess the philosophical attitude that one should have is to
really try and understand both sides of the discussion.

1- on one hand the trust that professor Monson is demanding
is not there because our users are a small sample of our
society. How many times have we heard that people have had
their ideas picked by others and their publications stolen
by others and .... in the very scientific community that most
of us hoped to be the purest part of the society. Still
the scientists are generally speaking very sincere people.
So if someone is not having trust to others, it's the
consequence of what they have observed in their environment.

2- I do not know if Rachel is a student (may be not), and if she
really was not trusting or just did not think to write the reason and
so on, so we do not discuss the case on a specific way.
But talking about going to the library, there are labs
where the students have really not access to the books and there
are places where superiors do not give the support the students
and other researchers' need, or simply there are not
enough books available.

So there are always reasons for the way people behave
and the more our society goes towards a very materialistic and
"win whatever the situation" attitude, the more the arguments
of professor Manson will be applicable because the more people
will behave in the way he is not happy about, and I understand
and apreciate his point.

All that apart, it is better to listen to people,as often things
that are not to be done are not published and are only "known".
Of course provided that answers are given generously, as arrogance
for giving is so destructive, even for donator.
I therefore agree with the fact that we should just be able to
ask the question and someone will react to give us an answer.

I think that professor Monson has evoked a point that is of
great importance and that is the human aspect of all we do, as
"human" is what we are hoping to be at a first place.
That needs sensitivity... and continuous effort.

Regards,

Sousan


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} The messages from Professor Monson in reply to a question about long-term
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}
} His message was highly entertaining and even if the poster of the original
} message may have felt "picked on", there was no reason to expect him to post
} an apology, no matter how informative it was.
}
} Far too many posters use this listserver as a way of finding a quick fix to
} simple solutions to technical problems that can be easily researched in text
} books.
}
} Often these messages contain little background information on the technical
} problem under investigation. Even so, many of these questions get full
} attention and detailed replies, even if the replies are not posted on the
} main list for public view.
}
} What has happened to the free and open discussion of issues and protocols
} that we used to have? Are people so afraid of being accused of being
} incorrect that they do not post their replies openly? Or maybe people are
} afraid of being accused of being impolite.
}
} I look forward to controversy and hope that my comments are read carefully
} and replied to with vigor. Only in this way will I be able to learn new
} thing, and this is the main reason I still subscribe to this listserver.
}
} If I am factually wrong about something, tell me. It is better to find this
} out on the listserver than in a more professional (or cruel) environment.
}
} As for discussion subjects: why was there no comment about the unadvisable
} suggestion made about storing samples in a frozen state? Would anyone
} working with EM really choose to store their samples at -20 degrees before
} processing for TEM?
}
} Where is all the discussion about extraction that can occur when storing
} samples in alcohols or buffers, or on the contamination that I know grows in
} everyones old cacodylate buffers?
}
} Do we not comment because we know it has all been published in textbooks?
}
} Dear Profesor Monson, do not feel bad about improving our general knowledge
} and our professional etiquette. I for one support your views and find your
} comments useful and entertaining. Please keep up your submissions.
}
} Best regards,
}
} Paul Webster
}
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}
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From daemon Thu Jun 28 07:13:49 2001



From: Richard M Langford :      richard.langford-at-materials.oxford.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:02:47 +0100
Subject: FIB micro-manipulator

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Dear Jon

The micromanipulator we use is a manual hydraulic system (Narishige MNN-1)
which is suitable for the plucking process. I do not know how its
performance compares of to other makes.

We use a microscope with *50 and * 5, 18 mm working distance lenses.

A couple of general comments about the lift-out process which might be
useful.

We use both pulled glass needles and electro-polished metal needles. The
yield of plucking using these two types of needles is comparable. An
advantage of the metal needles is that they do not shatter if accidentally
knocked against the sides of the FIB cuts. An advantage of the glass needles
is that if a cross-section has moved up the needle's shank, away from the
tip, (which sometimes occurs) then it is possible to see it and therefore,
not waste time searching for it in the area surrounding the FIB cuts. (In
addition to riding up the needle's shank sometimes a cross-section can also
'flick ' out away from the cuts while it is being plucked).

For cross-sections that have moved up the shank it is possible to
re-position them at the needle's tip using a second micro-manipulator.
However, it is also possible to get these cross-sections off the needle and
onto the support TEM grid by gently tapping the micro-manipulator system
while the needle is positioned over the grid.

Instead of using the Formvar or carbon support grids we use copper grids
with 7 um sized holes. We have found that only very rarely does a
cross-section fall off these. The advantage of these is that there is no
support membrane. What can happen is that while a cross-section is being
placed onto the support membrane the support membrane can be torn by the tip
of the needle and it can then wrap itself around the cross-section.

Also, because of the diversity of use of FIB systems (e.g. for modification
or fabrication of optoelectronic devices and micromachining) a FIB
discussion list has been set up. The subscribing web page is located at:

http://users.ox.ac.uk/~rml/

Any information, for example details of relevant FIB pages, can be added to
the web page if emailed to me.

Regards

Richard

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From: Gareth Morgan :      Gareth.Morgan-at-impi.ki.se
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:18:50 +0200
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Colleagues

I agree wholeheartedly with Paul in his comments regarding the mails from
Frederick Monson - no need for apology, interesting and informative replies.

Higher education seems to be locked in an apparently paradoxical situation
with students being expected to 'take responsibility for their own
learning', the use of Student Centred & Problem Based Learning etc. The
paradoxical part is that they do not have the appropriate intellectual
tools to be able to carry out such assignments. Frustration with their lot
then spills out over tutors who are expected to take responsibility when
things go wrong (but mostly no feedback when things work).

Ask me a question and I will give you the most appropriate answer I can.
The answer may be wrong of course, possibly because I have an incorrect
understanding of the concepts involved, possibly because I was asked the
wrong question. If I respond to a question with a question of my own it is
because I am trying to seek clarification of what EXACTLY is being asked.
That, as I see it, is how we work in science.

Paul says - "If I am factually wrong about something, tell me. It is better
to find this out on the listserver than in a more professional (or cruel)
environment."

I agree absolutely here too - it is easier to fight tooth and claw here and
come to some agreement or compromise than if we are addressing 500 people
at a conference and one of them asks a simple question to which we have no
answer.

My appeal to those posing questions is to give as much background
information as possible and to respond clearly to questions on clarification.

My appeal to those answering is to identify clearly what is hearsay "in my
experience" "I got that straight from a guy in the pub last night".
Identify also the context of the answer/solution to the question/problem
and refer to published data whenever possible.

I look forward to a lively, ongoing debate (even though I am going for my
summer break tomorrow!).




Med vänliga hälsningar/With best wishes

Gareth

"Close your eyes and look. What you saw at first is there no more; and what
you will see next has not yet come to life" Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519).

http://www.ki.se/biomedlab e-mail Gareth.Morgan-at-impi.ki.se

Tel +46 8 728 3734
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Gareth Morgan MPhil MSc FIBMS,
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Karolinska Institutet,
Avdelningar för biomedicinsk
laboratorievetenskap och
biomedicinska ämnen,
Lindhagensgatan 92, Box 12773,
S 112 96, Stockholm
Sverige

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From daemon Thu Jun 28 07:35:47 2001



From: Gareth Morgan :      Gareth.Morgan-at-impi.ki.se
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:34:49 +0200
Subject: Re: immersion oil remover?

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Hi again - supplementary information found by entering 'histoclear' as a
search term into

www.google.com

1. A supplier website there are US, UK and European links. Please note that
I am not connected with this company in any way!!

http://www.ralamb.net/tour/1.html

2. I just found the text below on

http://www.histosearch.com/histonet/Jan99A/Re.HematoxylinfadingandhiA.html
http://www.histosearch.com/

On Mon, 4 Jan 1999, Karen S Pawlowski wrote:

} My boss just noticed in the 1985 edition of Cellular Pathology Technique,
} Culling, Allison and Barr eds., that food oil derivatives, such as
} histoclear, will cause "haematoxylin" staining to rapidly fade. Is this
} true? I have been having problems with hematoxylin fading for quite some
} time and I use histoclear in my paramount all the time. 'Tho I began (8
} years ago) by using xylene, and I think those faded just as much.
}
} If histoclear does cause the stain to fade, are there any other
} substitutes for xylene that would work?

R. D. Lillie made extensive studies of mounting and fading
in the 1940s and 1950s (reported in Ch. 5 of his
"Histopathologic Technic" book, with references to papers
in Stain Technol).

Fading is typically due to either acidity or chemical reduction.
Canada balsam is acidic (abietic acid is a major component)
but this doesn't matter - the acid can't ionize in the
absence of water. Alum-haematoxylin stains keep for many years
in Canada balsam though an eosin counterstain may fade a little
over the course of 2 years. (This must be from reducing agents
in the medium.) Easily reduced colours fade in Balsam (e.g.
Prussian blue, acid fuchsine) and are more stable in synthetic
media. Easily oxidized colours (notably cobalt sulphide) are
well preserved in Canada balsam but fade in a few months in
most synthetic resins. (You can revive CoS by removing the
coverslip and exposing to ammonium sulphide again.)

Limonene (I think this is what histoclear is) is a reducing
agent - two non-conjugated double bonds in the molecule - so
its presence in a mounting medium is undesirable. Some is
bound to persist, just as some xylene persists when the
mounting medium dries. The boiling point of limonene (176C) is
a bit higher than xylene (140C), so it might be a bit more
persistent.

If your eosin faded equally after xylene or limonene the
mounting medium is the probable culprit. Try a wholly synthetic
(polystyrene or methacrylate) medium rather than a natural
or semi-synthetic one. Synthetic media are the best bet for
pretty well everything except cobalt sulphide (from ATPase
histochemistry etc). The blue component (alum-haematein) of
an H & E stain is very resilient and should not be affected
by clearing agents and mounting media. It keeps for decades
(perhaps for ever). If yours is fading, something acidic and
probably also some alcohol must be passing through into
the mounted preparations. This is surely unlikely to occur
on a regular basis!

Hope this helps. I'm sure I haven't thought of everything,
and have no personal experience with histoclear/limonene,
but you should be getting lots of other suggestions too.

John A. Kiernan,
Department of Anatomy & Cell Biology,
The University of Western Ontario,
LONDON, Canada N6A 5C1





Hi

I have used the 'orangey' smelling solvent under the brandname of
Histoclear. It is supposedly extracted large scale from citrus peel and is
the composed of the 'zest' that comes out as a spray when we peel oranges.

I couldn't comment on its use for removing immersion oil as you describe. I
have only used it as a xylene substitute for tissue processing tissues and
also for clearing stained sections prior to mounting.

It is said to be safer than xylene but some of the people I worked with at
the time complained of headaches so we stopped using it despite never
proving that it was the cause of the headaches.

Hope this helps!



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Med vänliga hälsningar/With best wishes

Gareth

"Close your eyes and look. What you saw at first is there no more; and what
you will see next has not yet come to life" Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519).

http://www.ki.se/biomedlab e-mail Gareth.Morgan-at-impi.ki.se

Tel +46 8 728 3734
Fax +46 8 728 3688

Gareth Morgan MPhil MSc FIBMS,
Institutionen för Mikrobiologi, Patologi och Immunologi(IMPI), H5,
Karolinska Institutet,
Avdelningar för biomedicinsk
laboratorievetenskap och
biomedicinska ämnen,
Lindhagensgatan 92, Box 12773,
S 112 96, Stockholm
Sverige

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From daemon Thu Jun 28 07:42:37 2001



From: Mike Nesta :      MNesta-at-ebsciences.com
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 08:38:20 -0400
Subject: Re: sharpening diamond knives

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Ping,

It would be helpful to know what brand the knives are. Most knife
manufacturers will take back their own knives for sharpening at the factory.
Just find the local distributor for the brand of knife you have and they
will arrange things for you. Energy Beam Sciences is a U.S. Company. We
recommend and deal primarily with Diatome but we can also help with DDK.

Good luck,
Mike

Michael R. Nesta
General Manager
Energy Beam Sciences, Inc.
Agawam, MA USA
Tel: (413) 786-9322
"Adding Brilliance to Your Vision"



-----Original Message-----
} From: Ping Li [mailto:pli-at-is.dal.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:10 PM
To: Microscopy list


Hi, could anyone please give me some information on where I can get my
diamond knives (for semi thin sectioning) sharpened? Any such places in
Canada? I believe the knives were made in Germany. Any information is
highly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Ping





From daemon Thu Jun 28 08:09:21 2001



From: Paula Allan-Wojtas :      AllanWojtasP-at-em.agr.ca
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:00:21 -0400
Subject: Printers and Paper - thanks

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Hi, all,

Just wanted to thank everyone who contributed to the discussion and suggested solutions for the problems we were having. It is very much appreciated - we have so many things to try and have learned a lot in the process.

My colleague, who shares the printer with me, was amazed, both with the range of answers and the rapidity of the responses - the perfect combination when you're having trouble in the lab. That's why I keep coming back to the group for answers and have stayed subscribed for so many years - there's no place like it!

Thanks again.

Paula.

Paula Allan-Wojtas
Research Scientist - Food Microstructure
Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada
Atlantic Food and Horticulture Research Centre
Kentville, Nova Scotia Canada B4N 1J5

Tel: (902) 679-5566
FAX: (902) 679-2311

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From daemon Thu Jun 28 08:19:19 2001



From: Greg Erdos :      gwe-at-biotech.ufl.edu
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:15:22 -0400
Subject: Re: nitrocellulose filters

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When we do this sort of thing, we generally use Nuclepore filters, but I
think our trick should work for other filters as well. We keep the
material on the filters through fixation and change solutions with gentle
vacuum. Then we overlay the specimen with a thin layer of low gelling
point agarose, pull a gentle vacuum and then chill the filter to solidify
the agarose. The entire filter can then be submerged in the next fluid,
and the filter is peeled away from the agarose. If all goes well the
specimen should be trapped in the agarose and the filter material is no
longer a problem. Warning: do not fix agarose in glutaraldehyde. It does
not embed well.

At 09:20 PM 6/27/2001 -0700, you wrote:
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From: MSA :      MSA-at-bostrom.com
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 08:24:45 -0500
Subject: Microscopy & Microanalysis 2001- Upcoming Deadlines

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Dear Colleagues:

This is a reminder concerning upcoming deadlines for the Microscopy &
Microanalysis 2001 meeting from August 5-9 in Long Beach, CA.

1) The deadline for hotel reservations at the meeting rate is this Friday,
June 29. The Westin still has some double rooms available for the entire
meeting period, but the other meeting hotels are booked. You can
reserve a room online by going to www.msa.microscopy.com and
following the links to M&M 2001 electronic forms.

2) The deadline for early meeting registration is Friday, July 6. Save
some money and register early! Electronic registration forms are also
available at the above site. I would also encourage those of you that are
interested to register for the Pre-meeting congress (only $10 more with
full meeting registration) and workshops ($120-$180) that are available.

3) The deadline for submitting a late breaking poster is Sunday, July
15th. If you would like to submit your work for this session contact Bob
Price by email at Price-at-med.sc.edu.

With nearly 700 presentations scheduled, a sold-out exhibit floor and an
excellent venue in Long Beach, California, M&M 2001 promises to be an
excellent meeting. On behalf of the MSA and MAS Councils, and the
Local Arrangements and Program Committees, I hope to see all of you
there.

Bob Price
M&M 2001 Program Chair


From daemon Thu Jun 28 08:45:10 2001



From: Sarka Lhotak :      lhotaks-at-mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:40:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: immersion oil remover?

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Christine,
if it smells like oranges and is used instead of xylene it must be
Histoclear. I have mine from Electron Microscopy Sciences, called Xylene
substitute, Cat #23410-01. I have never used it for immersion oil removal
though (sounds like a good idea), I just use it to clean microtomes of
paraffin residue.

Sarka Lhotak
Hamilton Regional Cancer Centre
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
lhotaks-at-mcmaster.ca

} Greetings!
}
} I'm in search of something that will remove immersion oil from slides of
}
} blood smears (no coverslips) without damaging the specimens. A friend
} told that such a chemical exists, but could not remember the name. It
} supposedly smells like oranges, and xylene was once used for the same
} purpose. If you have any ideas as to the name of this mystery chemical,
}
} I'd sure appreciate it.
}
} Regards,
} Christine Edly
} University of Oklahoma
}
}



From daemon Thu Jun 28 09:21:10 2001



From: Yuhui_Xu :      Yuhui_Xu-at-hms.harvard.edu
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:13:20 -0400
Subject: Freeze fracture system

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Dear Colleagues:

We are in the market for a freeze-fracture system. Currently there are two
models under our consideration: Bal-tec Freeze-Fracture Unit BAF060 and
RMC/JEOL 9010. We would appreciate any comments from users of these two
systems regarding to their applications, performance, stability, and other
features.

Thank you in advance.

Yuhui

Yuhui Xu, MD,PhD
EM Core, NHLBI, NIH



From daemon Thu Jun 28 09:29:10 2001



From: Roger Moretz :      rcmoretz-at-excite.com
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 07:24:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: nitrocellulose filters

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Ingrid:
It has been a long time since I did this, but my notes show that we have
very good embedding using Epon, _but_ I have omitted propylene oxide from my
processing schedule (did that more due to contact allergies developed over
years of carelessness). Epon (and the various replacements are miscible
with EtOH--just make sure that you use freshly opened bottles. (Acetone is
another dehydrant that will tend to dissolve the filters, BTW.) Dehydration
steps can be shortened (through graded EtOH, including uranyl acetate in 70%
if you use a preembedding UA procedure), then go into 2:1, 1:1 and 1:2
EtOH:Epon for infiltration. I also use a minimum of 2 steps in pure before
embedding in fresh epoxy. I would guess that you are embedding in the flat
molds--best way for filters, IMHO. From personal experience, use of PO and
Spurr's are really out for the filters (and my recollection is the same for
acetone, as mentioned above). Hope it works out for you.

Roger

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| Does anyone know the best method for embedding 0.45um nitrocellose filter
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filters and
| wish to examine them by TEM analysis for immunolabelling. Our 2 previous
attempts
| with Epon mixtures and minimal intermediate solvent changes have lead to
poorly
| polymerized blocks and dissolving membranes. Currently we are trying LR
White as a
| substitute. Any help would be great.
| Thank you.
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From: Petersen, Maureen A. :      Mape-at-mail.ifas.ufl.edu
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:24:53 -0400
Subject: LM- staining epoxy resin embedded sections for light microscopy

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I would appreciate any responses about the following situation:

I have epoxy resin embedded plant leaf (pepper) material infected with a
plant pathogenic bacteria (Xanthomonas vessicatoria). We plan to begin with
cutting 1-2 micron sections for light microscopy. I know that there are
stains using for differential staining of bacteria which are used on fresh
tissue or paraffin embedded material. Does any know of stains which would
work similarly for epoxy resin embedded material?

Thank you,

Maureen Petersen
Dept of Plant Pathology
University of Florida
Gainesville, FL




From daemon Thu Jun 28 10:39:13 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:32:25 -0400
Subject: RE: nitrocellulose filters

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Fixation?
You shouldn't partially dehydrate or partially clear for EPON, but
assuming the membrane system is adequately preserved to survive the alcohol
and PropOx, then your problem is poor infiltration, due to poor clearing,
due to poor dehydration. This does not mean that you must dehydrate in
30min steps. The times can be reduced empirically until you get to the
minimum necessary times for dehydration and clearing. Lots of variables.
The filter should not be a problem in any case, though I have no practice
with isolated vesicles, only with isolated Eprythrozoon coccoides (a mouse
zoonose, something like a mycoplasma, likes RBC's, and 'hibernates') and
just morphology.
You might want to try GMA for TEM (e.g. SPI) though I have no
experience with it, or any other hydrophilic embedment.
I assume nano-gold, so you must have been into: Hayat, M.A.(1995),
Immunogold-Silver Staining, CRC Press, Boca Raton, FL, ISBN:
0-8493-2449-1(LC Card# 95-1831, LC Loc# QR187.I482H39). Chapter 4 by
Krenacs and Krenacs on the subject of: "Which embedding medium?" might be of
help.

Good hunting,

Fred Monson

Frederick C. Monson, PhD
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging (CASI)
Schmucker II Science Center (Room: SS024(Basement))
South Church Street
West Chester, PA, 19383
MailDrop: Department of Geology/Astronomy
Phone: 610-738-0437
Fax: 610-436-3036
email: fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Please call before visiting.

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} wish to examine them by TEM analysis for immunolabelling. Our 2 previous
} attempts
} with Epon mixtures and minimal intermediate solvent changes have lead to
} poorly
} polymerized blocks and dissolving membranes. Currently we are trying LR
} White as a
} substitute. Any help would be great.
} Thank you.
} Ingrid Niesman
} SRA III Farquhar/Palade Lab
} UCSD
}
}


From daemon Thu Jun 28 11:49:40 2001



From: Frank Thomas :      thomasf-at-AGC.BIO.NS.CA
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:41:27 -0300
Subject: Re: immersion oil remover?

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Listers -

This is very interesting, about the orange or citrus-based stuff that is
good for removing immersion oil. There is also a range of products sold for
de-greasing bicycle chains and derailleurs, which are based on citrus
components. I'm no organic chemist myself, but can one of the
chemistry-oriented people out there tell me why something citrus-based
should be so good at dispersing oils?
Call me curious.....and I hope I'm not too off-topic here..

Frank Thomas
Geological Survey of Canada (Atlantic)
Bedford Institute of Oceanography
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
B3L 4C8



From daemon Thu Jun 28 12:29:13 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:23:59 -0400
Subject: RE: immunofluorescence on plants

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No Protocol, but this was a quick find on Google "Plant
immunohistochemistry"

Plant Cell Physiol. 37, 641-649 (1996): Developmental expression of a 23 kDa
jasmonate-induced protein (JIP-23) of barley leaves (Hordeum vulgare cv.
Salome) was studied by measuring the time-dependent accumulation of
transcript and protein during germination. Tissue-specific expression of
JIP-23 was analyzed immunocytochemically and by in situ hybridizations,
respectively. During seed germination JIP-23 mRNA was found to accumulate
transiently with a maximum at 32 h, whereas the protein was steadily
detectable after the onset of expression. The occurrence of new isoforms of
JIP-23 during germination in comparison to jasmonate-treated leaves
suggests, that the JIP-23 gene family of barley is able to express different
subsets of isoforms dependent on the developmental stage. JIP-23 and its
transcript were found mainly in the scutellum, the scutellar nodule and in
lower parts of the primary leaf of 6 days old seedlings. All these tissues
exhibited high levels of endogenous jasmonates. In situ hybridization
revealed specific accumulation of JIP-23 mRNA in companion cells of the
phloem in the nodule plate of the scutellum. In accordance with that, JIP-23
was detected immunocytochemically in phloem cells of the root as well as of
the scutellar nodule and in parenchymatic cells of the scutellum. The cell
type-specific occurrence of JIP-23 was restricted to cells, which are known
to be highly stressed osmotically by active solute transport. This
observation suggests, that the expression of this protein might be a
response to osmotic stress during development.

URL:
http://www.ipb-halle.de/english/institute/research/hause/introduction.htm

Interesting,

Fred Monson

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From daemon Thu Jun 28 12:34:18 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:30:04 -0400
Subject: Today's Real Humor

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Question from an old exam given to students who demanded MORE MULTIPLE
CHOICE!

Which of the following is NOT involved with human reproduction?

a. transcription
b. replication
c. translation
d. osculation
e. none of the above

Answer tomorrow.



Frederick C. Monson, PhD
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From daemon Thu Jun 28 12:39:44 2001



From: Paul Pederson :      pederso-at-US.ibm.com
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Please remove me from your mailing list

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From daemon Thu Jun 28 14:47:36 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
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Sorry, MAC only,

Fred Monson

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From daemon Thu Jun 28 15:20:49 2001



From: Tamara Howard :      thoward-at-UNM.EDU
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:15:45 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: immersion oil remover?

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Please post informational responses to the server! I've been curious about
this, too but too lazy to look into it - the dishwashing cleansers sold in
"granola" stores (organic, non-toxic to the environment, etc.) are also
citrus-oil based (and at least one has almond oil; not sure if that is
just for the odor).

Tamara

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} Listers -
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} This is very interesting, about the orange or citrus-based stuff that is
} good for removing immersion oil. There is also a range of products sold for
} de-greasing bicycle chains and derailleurs, which are based on citrus
} components. I'm no organic chemist myself, but can one of the
} chemistry-oriented people out there tell me why something citrus-based
} should be so good at dispersing oils?
} Call me curious.....and I hope I'm not too off-topic here..
}
} Frank Thomas
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From daemon Thu Jun 28 15:20:50 2001



From: Mike Haugh :      mhaugh-at-resolve3d.com
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:15:19 -0700
Subject: Re: sharpening diamond knives

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Michael Haugh - Director of Operations
Resolution - http://www.resolve3d.com
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Office:415/945-7360 x13 FAX:415/927-4495 Cell:415/987-9929
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-----Original Message-----
} From: Ping Li [mailto:pli-at-is.dal.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 1:10 PM
To: Microscopy list


Hi, could anyone please give me some information on where I can get my
diamond knives (for semi thin sectioning) sharpened? Any such places in
Canada? I believe the knives were made in Germany. Any information is
highly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Ping



From daemon Thu Jun 28 15:59:44 2001



From: Shea Miller :      millers-at-em.agr.ca
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:58:09 -0400
Subject: plant immunofluorescence-thanks

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Thanks so much for all the info on protocols for plant immunofluorescence... we tried a trial run today on some immature soybeans embedded in paraffin, and got some positive results following the general methods of Tobias Baskin. You have all given great advice, and we have lots to work with to refine our immunoassay.

thanks so much
shea



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Agriculture & Agri-food Canada
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Ottawa, Ontario
Canada K1A 0C6
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From daemon Thu Jun 28 16:34:40 2001



From: Tobias Baskin :      BaskinT-at-missouri.edu
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:28:36 -0500
Subject: removing immersion oil, not histoclear

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Micronetsters,
I am interested in this thread about removing immersion
oil, though perhaps diverged a bit from the original post. Over the
years, we have often put oil on a slide and then wished to look
without. In my hands, this is never easy. I have taken chloroform,
acetone, and the like to the coverslip, and wiped and wiped, and it
takes truly many wipes to get oil well and truly off. Small beadlets
of oil remain tenaciously stuck to the glass. If someone does have a
simpler way to get oil off a slide, so well off that there is no
residue left behind, I'd love to know about it.

Thanks,
Tobias
--
_ ____ __ ____ Tobias I. Baskin
/ \ / / \ / \ \ 109 Tucker Hall
/ / / / \ \ \ Biological Sciences
/_ / __ /__ \ \ \__ University of Missouri
/ / / \ \ \ Columbia, MO USA
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/ / ___ / \ \__/ \ ____ voice: 573-882-0173
fax: 573-882-0123


From daemon Thu Jun 28 17:04:15 2001



From: Mike Haugh :      mhaugh-at-resolve3d.com
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:57:07 -0700
Subject: Re: sharpening diamond knives

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Ping,

We use Micro Star Technologies for sharpening diamond knives. They do a
good job and their turnaround time is very good.

Micro Star Technologies
511 FM 3179
Huntsville, TX 77340-2069
Phone 800/533-2509
FAX 409/294-9861
email mistar-at-msn.com

Mike


Michael Haugh - Director of Operations
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Email: mhaugh-at-resolve3d.com


-----Original Message-----
} From: Mike Haugh
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 1:15 PM
To: 'Ping Li'; Microscopy list


Hi, could anyone please give me some information on where I can get my
diamond knives (for semi thin sectioning) sharpened? Any such places in
Canada? I believe the knives were made in Germany. Any information is
highly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Ping



From daemon Thu Jun 28 17:45:14 2001



From: Stan Gelles :      sgelles-at-cctlabs.com
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:41:00 -0500
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We are in the market for a used TEM/EDX system that will meet NVLAP asbestos
analysis requirements. Any leads?

Stanley H. Gelles
Senior Group Leader
CC Technologies
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From daemon Thu Jun 28 18:52:20 2001



From: Tamara Howard :      thoward-at-UNM.EDU
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:45:20 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: removing immersion oil, not histoclear

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Sparkle! The wonderful purple glass cleaner stuff. Not available in all
parts of the US, even - I was given a stash by a student from the midwest.
I've heard stories of microscope company service people back east who
stockpile the stuff (definitely couldn't find it in New York). I think
the guy who gave it to me said it was available in True Value hardware
stores; I don't know if they make it.

No financial attachments to Sparkle or True Value, unfortunately.

Tamara

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} I am interested in this thread about removing immersion
} oil, though perhaps diverged a bit from the original post. Over the
} years, we have often put oil on a slide and then wished to look
} without. In my hands, this is never easy. I have taken chloroform,
} acetone, and the like to the coverslip, and wiped and wiped, and it
} takes truly many wipes to get oil well and truly off. Small beadlets
} of oil remain tenaciously stuck to the glass. If someone does have a
} simpler way to get oil off a slide, so well off that there is no
} residue left behind, I'd love to know about it.
}
} Thanks,
} Tobias
} --
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} / \ / / \ / \ \ 109 Tucker Hall
} / / / / \ \ \ Biological Sciences
} /_ / __ /__ \ \ \__ University of Missouri
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} / / / \ \ \ 65211-7400
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} fax: 573-882-0123
}
}

|--------------------------------------------------|
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Department of Cell Biology and Physiology
University of New Mexico - Health Sciences Center
Albuquerque, NM 87131
thoward-at-unm.edu
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From daemon Fri Jun 29 04:01:01 2001



From: Gareth Morgan :      Gareth.Morgan-at-impi.ki.se
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:52:55 +0200
Subject: Re: immersion oil remover?

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Hi

My guess about limonene is that it is non-toxic, biodegradeable, easily
detectable by (pleasant) smell, a 'waste' product of the food industry,
doesn't need to be mined (environmentally friendly) etc ......

I have seen the bike chain cleaners too and my first reaction was to think
Histoclear!

Again I used a google search

http://www.google.com

so don't take my opinion - try

http://www.floridachemical.com/Default.htm

and the click on 'what is limonene?'

For some more complex chemistry try

http://umbbd.ahc.umn.edu/lim/lim_map.html

http://physics.weber.edu/carroll/Wonder/limonene.htm

I am not associated with any of these concerns.

Have a good summer - I'm off to Finland camping on Sunday - Yippeeeeeeee!


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Med vänliga hälsningar/With best wishes

Gareth

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you will see next has not yet come to life" Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519).

http://www.ki.se/biomedlab e-mail Gareth.Morgan-at-impi.ki.se

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From daemon Fri Jun 29 04:21:25 2001



From: Vr. Richard Bejsak-Colloredo-Mansfeld :      ricardo-at-ans.com.au
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:34:41 +1000
Subject: help with Outlook 2000 (Fax setting)

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Dear colleagues,

I know that here is some very good experts on computers.. And I cannot
configuration how to do it..

I would like to know how to change setting of the fax in Outlook 2000 from
email only to send and receive faxes..

Ricardo



From daemon Fri Jun 29 04:54:16 2001



From: Ken Tiekotter :      tiekotte-at-up.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 02:45:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: removing immersion oil, not histoclear

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On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Tobias Baskin wrote:

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} Micronetsters,
} I am interested in this thread about removing immersion
} oil, though perhaps diverged a bit from the original post. Over the
} years, we have often put oil on a slide and then wished to look
} without. In my hands, this is never easy. I have taken chloroform,
} acetone, and the like to the coverslip, and wiped and wiped, and it
} takes truly many wipes to get oil well and truly off. Small beadlets
} of oil remain tenaciously stuck to the glass. If someone does have a
} simpler way to get oil off a slide, so well off that there is no
} residue left behind, I'd love to know about it.
}
} Thanks,
} Tobias
}

I have try solvents from alcohol to ammonia and thanks to the advice of
the local confocal Leica rep. Frank Lie, I am now using Windex with great
success for removing immersion oil from oil objectives and COVERSLIPPED
microscope slides.

As for using Histoclear, which I have: it is rather strong smelling and I
am uncertain whether it will destain uncoverslipped stained histo. preps.
Cheers,
Ken

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The University of Portland
Department of Biology
5000 N. Willamette Blvd.
Portland, OR 97203





From daemon Fri Jun 29 08:28:05 2001



From: Leona Cohen-Gould :      lcgould-at-med.cornell.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:19:29 -0400
Subject: Re: removing immersion oil, not histoclear

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At 4:28 PM -0500 6/28/01, Tobias Baskin wrote:
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}
} Micronetsters,
} I am interested in this thread about removing immersion
} oil, though perhaps diverged a bit from the original post. Over the
} years, we have often put oil on a slide and then wished to look
} without. In my hands, this is never easy. I have taken chloroform,
} acetone, and the like to the coverslip, and wiped and wiped, and it
} takes truly many wipes to get oil well and truly off. Small beadlets
} of oil remain tenaciously stuck to the glass. If someone does have a
} simpler way to get oil off a slide, so well off that there is no
} residue left behind, I'd love to know about it.
}
} Thanks,
} Tobias
} --
*********************

For years, we have used a 1:1 dilution of Windex & water. Use the
original formula (blue) Windex. this was recommended to use by our
Zeiss representatives and works well on slides and lenses.

lee
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Manager, Optical Microscopy Core Facility
Joan & Sanford I. Weill Medical College
of Cornell University
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From daemon Fri Jun 29 08:28:05 2001



From: Leona Cohen-Gould :      lcgould-at-med.cornell.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:16:30 -0400
Subject: RE: sharpening diamond knives

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}
} Hi, could anyone please give me some information on where I can get my
} diamond knives (for semi thin sectioning) sharpened? Any such places in
} Canada? I believe the knives were made in Germany. Any information is
} highly appreciated. Thank you in advance.
}
} Ping
*****************

I believe that almost all of the companies that manufacture & sell
diamond knives (Diatome, DDK, Mictostar) will resharpen knives of all
makes. All are the US or have US offices.

Lee

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Manager, Optical Microscopy Core Facility
Joan & Sanford I. Weill Medical College
of Cornell University
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fax (212)746-8175


From daemon Fri Jun 29 08:42:10 2001



From: David Burton :      dburton-at-nwlink.com
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 06:40:27 -0700
Subject: Re: removing immersion oil, not histoclear

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Sparkle glass cleaner is good for cleaning the larger glass surfaces of
the microscope. I don't think it would really work well to remove immersion
oil, we use acetone for that. Acetone is a low health hazard (fingernail
polish remover) and works well for cleaning objectives and eyepieces. Like
any cleaner, even Sparkle, you would never soak an optical element. Apply
the cleaner to something soft and absorbent and use that to clean the
surface. Kimwipes and wooden shafted "Q-tips" work the best.
It's true that Sparkle isn't available everywhere. You can order it from
their website:
http://www.glasscleaner.com/

Dave Burton
Optical Specialist
University of Washington
Scientific Instruments




From daemon Fri Jun 29 09:00:25 2001



From: Tindall, Randy D. :      TindallR-at-missouri.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:55:23 -0500
Subject: Re: removing immersion oil, not histoclear

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David,

Just wondering: isn't acetone likely to attack the cements holding the lens
elements in place? Or even some plastic components? Apparently you haven't
had any problems, but I wonder if anyone else has?

Thanks,
Randy

Randy Tindall
EM Specialist
Electron Microscopy Core Facility
W122 Veterinary Medicine
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211
Tel: (573) 882-8304
Fax: (573) 884-5414
Email: tindallr-at-missouri.edu
Web: http://www.biotech.missouri.edu/emc/




-----Original Message-----
} From: David Burton [mailto:dburton-at-nwlink.com]
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 8:40 AM
To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


Sparkle glass cleaner is good for cleaning the larger glass surfaces of
the microscope. I don't think it would really work well to remove immersion
oil, we use acetone for that. Acetone is a low health hazard (fingernail
polish remover) and works well for cleaning objectives and eyepieces. Like
any cleaner, even Sparkle, you would never soak an optical element. Apply
the cleaner to something soft and absorbent and use that to clean the
surface. Kimwipes and wooden shafted "Q-tips" work the best.
It's true that Sparkle isn't available everywhere. You can order it from
their website:
http://www.glasscleaner.com/

Dave Burton
Optical Specialist
University of Washington
Scientific Instruments




From daemon Fri Jun 29 09:07:44 2001



From: Warren E Straszheim :      wesaia-at-iastate.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:59:44 -0500
Subject: Re: help with Outlook 2000 (Fax setting)

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Fax support is not built into Outlook 2000 and the newer version of Windows
as it was in the older versions. MS does describe the setup on their
knowledge base. Basdically, it is still available by going back and
installing some add-ons that are not part of the regular Windows or Outlook
installation. They are in one of those extra folders that you find on the
CDs. I will send you details directly.

At 09:34 AM 6/29/2001 +1000, you wrote:

} Dear colleagues,
}
} I know that here is some very good experts on computers.. And I cannot
} configuration how to do it..
}
} I would like to know how to change setting of the fax in Outlook 2000 from
} email only to send and receive faxes..
}
} Ricardo

----------------------
Warren E. Straszheim
Materials Analysis and Research Lab
Iowa State University
23 Town Engineering
Ames IA, 50011-3232

Ph: 515-294-8187
FAX: 515-294-4563

E-Mail: wesaia-at-iastate.edu
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Scanning electron microscopy, x-ray analysis, and image analysis of materials
Computer applications and networking



From daemon Fri Jun 29 09:21:52 2001



From: Tim E. Harper :      tim-at-cmp-cientifica.com
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:19:51 +0200
Subject: Conference: Trends in Nanotechnology 2001 - Reduced Rate

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Hi,

Just a reminder that the hotels are filling up, & the registration rate will
be going up next week for TNT 2001 (Segovia, Spain, September 3-7th). There
are currently some 250 participants from all over the globe, from the fields
of physics, microscopy, FIB, biotech, materials and the semiconductor
industry, as well as dedicated Nanotechnologists and a smattering of venture
capitalists.

More information is at www.cmp-cientifica.com/tnt2001

Regards

Tim

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CMP Cientifica s.l.
Space & NanoTechnology Division
Phone +34 91 640 71 85 Fax +34 91 640 71 86
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From daemon Fri Jun 29 09:33:19 2001



From: Paula Allan-Wojtas :      AllanWojtasP-at-em.agr.ca
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:26:45 -0400
Subject: Printers and Paper summary (longish)

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Hi, all,

Barbara Foster had requested a summary of the replies I had received on this topic. Here it is, FYI.

Paula.

¯----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1) Avery 9x12" Self - Adhesive Laminating sheets, 50/ pack. #461253 / 73601
The result is a nice glossy finish, and an image that doesn't fade.

2) archival printer ink.
Check the Epson web site for more info about archival inks and printers like the Epson StylusPhoto 2000P.
Wilheim research does the most testing for
archivalness of photographic media. They may have some pointers on the
best ink-paper combos for light stability. http://www.wilheim-research.com

3) enclosing a print in a polyethylene sheet protector (archival grade)

4) printer specific paper
-Stay with the papers recommended for use with the new Epson inks

- try Epson's Heavyweight Matte paper It's cheap ($9/50 sheets
from a discount sppplier), delivers the Epson long-life guarantee, & it has
a robust surface right out of the printer. And beautiful prints.

-There were recently (last 6-8 months) some issues with color shift
on some Epson papers. Epson determined the shift was from high
concentrations of ozone, and not due to exposure to light. Epson
recommends Heavyweight Matte or Epson Photo paper for maximum
lightfastness.

-if the "Photo Quality Glossy Paper" isn't new, it may be the paper's fault - it's been reformulated to deal with this problem.
See http://www.luminous-landscape.com/1280.htm &
http://www.wilhelm-research.com/


5) printer settings
- make sure that when you print B&W prints, set the printer to "B&W". Colors can appear when "color" is selected, and the color printing mimics
B&W

6) protective sprays
- Luminos http://www.lumijet.com has a spray called
"Imagesheild" to protect prints. $18/ can.
Quoting their website:
"LUMIJET IMAGESHIELD will become your favorite print protector.
It*s a convenient ozone-friendly low-odor aerosol spray that significantly
improves wet-fastness. In addition to protecting delicate inkjet images
from moisture, it also shields images from fingerprints and harmful UV rays.
This unique product will not only help extend useful print life,
it is totally transparent; preserving the original print surface
characteristics. From dead matte to glossy, or from canvas to silver foil,
you*ll never know it*s there."

-Krylon clear acrylic spray
Use many light coats. If you really wet the surface, the paper can become
translucent.

-Johnson's Paste Wax.
It works on some inks and papers, not all. It does offer some protection against UV. It does protect against moisture, finger prints, dust and scratches. It does change the finish.
If the wax causes the ink to smear a fixative spray will usually stop that.
Test it for several weeks before putting it on an expensive display.

Comments:
Do not use the printer for archival printing. For long lasting prints use a
silver halide digital printer (or dye sub) or traditional dark room processing.

Ink-jet prints have never been designed for long term preservation.
the inks used in those printers are made of dyes, which are very
sensitive to U.V electromagnetic waves present in fluorescent lamps and sun rays. Dyes are not chemically fixed to the fibers, so can cause the smudging problems. The use of a fixative to stabilize the colour is only a temporary and partial solution: the polymers spayed on the surface of the print might partly protect the dyes by filtering some U.V rays but doing so, will tend to yellow with time and give a yellowish cast to your images.
Digitizing images is not a complete longterm solution either. For best preservation of images, save many copies on CDs, and check them often for deteroiration and update the formats as needed to be sure they are always accessible (tiff uncompressed files) and keep it in a cool place, with low humidity (30% RH), or rent a place in a specialised data keeping system firm.

¯----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Paula Allan-Wojtas
Research Scientist - Food Microstructure
Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada
Atlantic Food and Horticulture Research Centre
Kentville, Nova Scotia Canada B4N 1J5

Tel: (902) 679-5566
FAX: (902) 679-2311

email: allanwojtasp-at-em.agr.ca


From daemon Fri Jun 29 09:34:45 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:30:03 -0400
Subject: RE: long-term storage OR what has happened?

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You are absolutely right, and most of the time we behave just as you
describe us. Patient, etc. One purpose of my tirade was to point out that
there are differences between today and yesterday that give ALL of us
choices to make. I know a high school student who failed the year, because
he wanted to punish his parents. When he told me what he had done, I
responded that I knew a young man just like him when I was in high school.
His solution was to get straight A's so he could become more quickly
independent.
Science is our own, very human, endeavor. Those of us who do
science must constantly work to remove the temptations to embellish our
results, to twist the statistics and to 'jump' to conclusions. But, and
here's where I differ perhaps slightly. Sometimes, there is a good reason
to yell! My wife hates my streak of sarcasm! But I was raised on the
stuff. When I did something 'dumb,' everyone who loved me, joined in the
derisive repair. I learned to think at my dinner table before I was 10. I
did not like to be the but of everyone's attention. My Mom taught, then I
taught. I only stopped, because no one [too few] wanted to learn any more
[bad generalization]! Go to college today, and what do you find? Young
people unprepared for the rigor. Young people unprepared for the
intellectual dance - as we used to call it. Young people who don't know
what they want to do and are unwilling to work to find out. "They only do
what they are taught!" This is my mantra when I look for explanations in
the mirror. My older son had to learn - for the test - to name NH3 as
"ammonium", because his chemistry teacher would not believe the Handbook of
Chemistry and Physics. My chemistry teacher in public high school took
chemistry courses at Rutgers every third summer. He was the expert in
chemistry. My physics teacher had a PhD in the subject. My biology teacher
went on to be the chair of Physiology at a large Southern medical school.
If I wanted to complain about a professor at Lehigh, the Dean would show me
a list of nearby schools that had openings. The attitude was clearly
communicated. The greatest lessons in life are those that teach one to
manage the worst parts of it. If I failed a course, it was MY failure - and
it was at least MY problem! I wanted to be what I am, once I figured
everything out. The only advice I ever received, when I was having problems
with learning, was, "Study harder." My Mom just kept on telling me to keep
on trying as hard as I could. If I were young now, I'd be in group therapy
and zapped on some pharmaceutical, if the system had its way.
Given my experience, I hope it is not difficult to understand why I
might not appear to understand the problems of others. BUT! If I see a
young person in science who is poorly informed about how it is done, then I
will act in that person's behalf even if I am thought, and reported, to be
insensitive.
When I was a graduate student, we were all ordered to write
faculty/course evaluations. I did. I wrote analyses of each course, and
every one of them was critically positive. Not one word of my analyses were
printed. If I had demonized one of my professors, I would have been writing
novels today. The people who ordered the writings were ex-faculty
administrators who were pandering to the new consumer mentality in
education. If I had gone to my undergraduate department chair to complain
about a grade, he would have told me that I was wasting his time. Five
years later, there were lines of boomers outside of department offices. The
generation of manipulators had arrived! While they were standing in line, I
was learning. While I was learning, they were just getting warmed up!
I have had ideas snitched! Sometimes I even gave them away. On the
other hand, I have also had the other side of the experience. For six
months of learning followed by 30 minutes of consultation and work, I had
the good fortune to become a molecular biologist. For that effort, the
individual to whom I gave my best remembered my part - even after he had
spent years doing the work - and included me in the author list for a
gene(TERE1) that mapped to Chromosome 1 and appeared in print in a Nature
publication. He did NOT have to do that. There was NO obligation nor
agreement. I helped because he asked. People are basically good,
especially scientists, and I always start with TRUST, and I always will.
You are still absolutely correct.

Regards for YOUR sensitivity,

Fred Monson

} ----------
} From: Sousan Abolhassani
} Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 8:07 AM
} To: Paul Webster
} Cc: MSA listserver submission
} Subject: Re: long-term storage OR what has happened?
}
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} Paul,
}
} The point about this server is that it is used by
} a very heterogeneous public from which a non-exclusive
} list is the following:
}
} students,
} professors,
} scientists/
} researchers
} technical staffs
} suppliers
} producers
} specialists
} non-specialists
} etc.
} etc.
} etc.
}
} and all these from so many different backgrounds with so
} many different problems and even from so many different countries...
} That if we want to teach all of them to behave as we expect
} before they post a query, the server could go to early retirement.
}
} I guess the philosophical attitude that one should have is to
} really try and understand both sides of the discussion.
}
} 1- on one hand the trust that professor Monson is demanding
} is not there because our users are a small sample of our
} society. How many times have we heard that people have had
} their ideas picked by others and their publications stolen
} by others and .... in the very scientific community that most
} of us hoped to be the purest part of the society. Still
} the scientists are generally speaking very sincere people.
} So if someone is not having trust to others, it's the
} consequence of what they have observed in their environment.
}
} 2- I do not know if Rachel is a student (may be not), and if she
} really was not trusting or just did not think to write the reason and
} so on, so we do not discuss the case on a specific way.
} But talking about going to the library, there are labs
} where the students have really not access to the books and there
} are places where superiors do not give the support the students
} and other researchers' need, or simply there are not
} enough books available.
}
} So there are always reasons for the way people behave
} and the more our society goes towards a very materialistic and
} "win whatever the situation" attitude, the more the arguments
} of professor Manson will be applicable because the more people
} will behave in the way he is not happy about, and I understand
} and apreciate his point.
}
} All that apart, it is better to listen to people,as often things
} that are not to be done are not published and are only "known".
} Of course provided that answers are given generously, as arrogance
} for giving is so destructive, even for donator.
} I therefore agree with the fact that we should just be able to
} ask the question and someone will react to give us an answer.
}
} I think that professor Monson has evoked a point that is of
} great importance and that is the human aspect of all we do, as
} "human" is what we are hoping to be at a first place.
} That needs sensitivity... and continuous effort.
}
} Regards,
}
} Sousan
}
}
} Paul Webster wrote:
} }
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} } Dear Colleagues,
} }
} } The messages from Professor Monson in reply to a question about
} long-term
} } tissue storage makes me wonder what has happened to this listserver?
} }
} } His message was highly entertaining and even if the poster of the
} original
} } message may have felt "picked on", there was no reason to expect him to
} post
} } an apology, no matter how informative it was.
} }
} } Far too many posters use this listserver as a way of finding a quick fix
} to
} } simple solutions to technical problems that can be easily researched in
} text
} } books.
} }
} } Often these messages contain little background information on the
} technical
} } problem under investigation. Even so, many of these questions get full
} } attention and detailed replies, even if the replies are not posted on
} the
} } main list for public view.
} }
} } What has happened to the free and open discussion of issues and
} protocols
} } that we used to have? Are people so afraid of being accused of being
} } incorrect that they do not post their replies openly? Or maybe people
} are
} } afraid of being accused of being impolite.
} }
} } I look forward to controversy and hope that my comments are read
} carefully
} } and replied to with vigor. Only in this way will I be able to learn new
} } thing, and this is the main reason I still subscribe to this listserver.
} }
} } If I am factually wrong about something, tell me. It is better to find
} this
} } out on the listserver than in a more professional (or cruel)
} environment.
} }
} } As for discussion subjects: why was there no comment about the
} unadvisable
} } suggestion made about storing samples in a frozen state? Would anyone
} } working with EM really choose to store their samples at -20 degrees
} before
} } processing for TEM?
} }
} } Where is all the discussion about extraction that can occur when storing
} } samples in alcohols or buffers, or on the contamination that I know
} grows in
} } everyones old cacodylate buffers?
} }
} } Do we not comment because we know it has all been published in
} textbooks?
} }
} } Dear Profesor Monson, do not feel bad about improving our general
} knowledge
} } and our professional etiquette. I for one support your views and find
} your
} } comments useful and entertaining. Please keep up your submissions.
} }
} } Best regards,
} }
} } Paul Webster
} }
} } Paul Webster, Ph.D.
} } Scientist II and Director
} } Ahmanson Center for Advanced EM & Imaging
} } House Ear Institute
} } 2100 West 3rd Street
} } Los Angeles
} } CA 90057
} }
} } pwebster-at-hei.org
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} } http://www.hei.org/research/depts/aemi/aemi.htm
}
}


From daemon Fri Jun 29 09:36:16 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:31:53 -0400
Subject: RE: long-term storage OR what has happened?

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Dear Gareth,

You are teaching again!

Respectfully,

Fred Monson

} ----------
} From: Gareth Morgan
} Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 8:18 AM
} To: Paul Webster; MSA listserver submission
} Subject: Re: long-term storage OR what has happened?
}
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}
} Colleagues
}
} I agree wholeheartedly with Paul in his comments regarding the mails from
} Frederick Monson - no need for apology, interesting and informative
} replies.
}
} Higher education seems to be locked in an apparently paradoxical situation
} with students being expected to 'take responsibility for their own
} learning', the use of Student Centred & Problem Based Learning etc. The
} paradoxical part is that they do not have the appropriate intellectual
} tools to be able to carry out such assignments. Frustration with their lot
} then spills out over tutors who are expected to take responsibility when
} things go wrong (but mostly no feedback when things work).
}
} Ask me a question and I will give you the most appropriate answer I can.
} The answer may be wrong of course, possibly because I have an incorrect
} understanding of the concepts involved, possibly because I was asked the
} wrong question. If I respond to a question with a question of my own it is
} because I am trying to seek clarification of what EXACTLY is being asked.
} That, as I see it, is how we work in science.
}
} Paul says - "If I am factually wrong about something, tell me. It is
} better
} to find this out on the listserver than in a more professional (or cruel)
} environment."
}
} I agree absolutely here too - it is easier to fight tooth and claw here
} and
} come to some agreement or compromise than if we are addressing 500 people
} at a conference and one of them asks a simple question to which we have no
} answer.
}
} My appeal to those posing questions is to give as much background
} information as possible and to respond clearly to questions on
} clarification.
}
} My appeal to those answering is to identify clearly what is hearsay "in my
} experience" "I got that straight from a guy in the pub last night".
} Identify also the context of the answer/solution to the question/problem
} and refer to published data whenever possible.
}
} I look forward to a lively, ongoing debate (even though I am going for my
} summer break tomorrow!).
}
}
}
}
} Med v?nliga h?lsningar/With best wishes
}
} Gareth
}
} "Close your eyes and look. What you saw at first is there no more; and
} what
} you will see next has not yet come to life" Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519).
}
} http://www.ki.se/biomedlab e-mail Gareth.Morgan-at-impi.ki.se
}
} Tel +46 8 728 3734
} Fax +46 8 728 3688
}
} Gareth Morgan MPhil MSc FIBMS,
} Institutionen f^r Mikrobiologi, Patologi och Immunologi(IMPI), H5,
} Karolinska Institutet,
} Avdelningar f^r biomedicinsk
} laboratorievetenskap och
} biomedicinska ?mnen,
} Lindhagensgatan 92, Box 12773,
} S 112 96, Stockholm
} Sverige
}
} OBS! Bes^ksadress: Lindhagensgatan 92
} NB! Visiting address:Lindhagensgatan 92
}
}


From daemon Fri Jun 29 09:37:26 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:33:04 -0400
Subject: RE: immersion oil remover?

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Didn't that 'stuff' still have Xylene in it?

Fred Monson

} ----------
} From: Gareth Morgan
} Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 7:45 AM
} To: Christine Edly; Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: Re: immersion oil remover?
}
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}
} Hi
}
} I have used the 'orangey' smelling solvent under the brandname of
} Histoclear. It is supposedly extracted large scale from citrus peel and is
} the composed of the 'zest' that comes out as a spray when we peel oranges.
}
} I couldn't comment on its use for removing immersion oil as you describe.
} I
} have only used it as a xylene substitute for tissue processing tissues and
} also for clearing stained sections prior to mounting.
}
} It is said to be safer than xylene but some of the people I worked with at
} the time complained of headaches so we stopped using it despite never
} proving that it was the cause of the headaches.
}
} Hope this helps!
}
}
}
} At 17:42 2001-06-27 -0500, Christine Edly wrote:
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} }
} } Greetings!
} }
} } I'm in search of something that will remove immersion oil from slides of
} }
} } blood smears (no coverslips) without damaging the specimens. A friend
} } told that such a chemical exists, but could not remember the name. It
} } supposedly smells like oranges, and xylene was once used for the same
} } purpose. If you have any ideas as to the name of this mystery chemical,
} }
} } I'd sure appreciate it.
} }
} } Regards,
} } Christine Edly
} } University of Oklahoma
} }
}
}
} Med v?nliga h?lsningar/With best wishes
}
} Gareth
}
} "Close your eyes and look. What you saw at first is there no more; and
} what
} you will see next has not yet come to life" Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519).
}
} http://www.ki.se/biomedlab e-mail Gareth.Morgan-at-impi.ki.se
}
} Tel +46 8 728 3734
} Fax +46 8 728 3688
}
} Gareth Morgan MPhil MSc FIBMS,
} Institutionen f^r Mikrobiologi, Patologi och Immunologi(IMPI), H5,
} Karolinska Institutet,
} Avdelningar f^r biomedicinsk
} laboratorievetenskap och
} biomedicinska ?mnen,
} Lindhagensgatan 92, Box 12773,
} S 112 96, Stockholm
} Sverige
}
} OBS! Bes^ksadress: Lindhagensgatan 92
} NB! Visiting address:Lindhagensgatan 92
}
}


From daemon Fri Jun 29 09:52:38 2001



From: JHoffpa464-at-aol.com
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:47:55 EDT
Subject: renal if storage

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hi all,
we are doing IF on renals for diagnostic work. does anyone know how long we
are required to store them?
john hoffpauir
cooper hospital


From daemon Fri Jun 29 10:07:20 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:59:47 -0400
Subject: RE: plant immunofluorescence-thanks

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I bet we would all like to see some results when you get them.

Regards,

Fred Monson

} ----------
} From: Shea Miller
} Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 4:58 PM
} To: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: plant immunofluorescence-thanks
}
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}
} Thanks so much for all the info on protocols for plant
} immunofluorescence... we tried a trial run today on some immature soybeans
} embedded in paraffin, and got some positive results following the general
} methods of Tobias Baskin. You have all given great advice, and we have
} lots to work with to refine our immunoassay.
}
} thanks so much
} shea
}
}
}
} Dr. S. Shea Miller
} Agriculture & Agri-food Canada
} Eastern Cereal and Oilseed Research Centre
} Central Experimental Farm
} Ottawa, Ontario
} Canada K1A 0C6
} Phone: (613) 759-1760
} Fax: (613) 759-1701
} Email: millers-at-em.agr.ca
}
}
}


From daemon Fri Jun 29 10:34:00 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:26:13 -0400
Subject: RE: immersion oil remover?

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Let's See Now,

The classic blood stains are the dried salts of cationic(methylene
blue) and anionic(eosin) dyes dissolved in methanol. So, acid will remove
one and base will remove the other, and the aromatic organic is what we no
longer want to use. How about a non-ionic detergent? Is that what's in the
"Orange" mystery?

Well here's my offering for something 'orangy'. I acquired it a
Home Depot. "Commercial ZEP Citrus All Purpose Cleaner". The Directions
say that you can use it full strength or diluted. Probably doesn't have any
of THOSE aromatics. Nothing on the label. Looks like a typical proprietary
scientific mixture. Just like "Histoclear" and "Paraplast." [Why does that
period look so out of place?] "Removes grease, oil and soils [Sic!] from
concrete, metal and other hard surfaces."

Glass is hard unless one has a very long perspective. I wonder. If
I had some old slides, I could try it. Full strength or a dilution series?
Ten-fold or two-fold? Water or alcohol as a vehicle? Wonder whether
"triphosphate" would work. Did a fine job on the driveway. Time for lunch!
I'll stop by Home Depot on the way back.

Respectfully submitted in partial fulfillment of requirements for.......,

Fred Monson [Is he this way all the time? Only when awake.]
} ----------
} From: Christine Edly
} Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 6:42 PM
} To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: immersion oil remover?
}
} ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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} -----------------------------------------------------------------------.
}
}
} Greetings!
}
} I'm in search of something that will remove immersion oil from slides of
}
} blood smears (no coverslips) without damaging the specimens. A friend
} told that such a chemical exists, but could not remember the name. It
} supposedly smells like oranges, and xylene was once used for the same
} purpose. If you have any ideas as to the name of this mystery chemical,
}
} I'd sure appreciate it.
}
} Regards,
} Christine Edly
} University of Oklahoma
}
}


From daemon Fri Jun 29 10:39:49 2001



From: Thearith H. Ung :      tung-at-qdots.com
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:28:50 -0700
Subject: RE: TEM-Ultrathin Film-Thank you

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Dear Colleagues,

I am very grateful to everybody for your help with regards to
finding suitable TEM grid film for small particles. The number of responses
were really overwhelming. Special thanks to those who were willing to send
me grids to try out. Thank you all once again.

Regards,

Thearith Ung



From daemon Fri Jun 29 10:44:38 2001



From: Hong Yi :      hyi-at-emory.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:04:04 -0400
Subject: Preservation and staining of bacterial capsules

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Hi, everyone. I am posting this for someone else. However replies can be
either posted on the server or sent to my email address directly. I will
forward all to her. Thank you in advance.

Hong


Hi Hong,

Okay... here is a paragraph or so about what we are trying to
see that you can paste onto the list serv.


We are attempting to visualize the polysaccharide capsule of
Neisseria meningitidis serogroup B by electron microscopy. The
capsule is (alpha2-8)-linked polysialic acid with about 200-300
residues per polymer. We have tried staining the negatively
charged capsule with Ruthenium red, followed by embedding,
sectioning, and counterstaining. However, it appears that
only the inner and outer membranes were stained and not the
capsule (we did capsule + and capsule - controls). In a previous
paper that effectively stained capsule of E. coli K5, the cells
were washed with capsule-specific antibody before fixation to
stabilize the capsule. We have not attempted the procedure with
the antibody stabilization yet. Please let me know if this would
be recommended or if there are any other suggestions. Thank you.


Christy



From daemon Fri Jun 29 10:52:31 2001



From: Shea Miller :      millers-at-em.agr.ca
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:51:15 -0400
Subject: counterstaining for immunofluorescence

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Hi again;
we are having a wee bit of trouble distinguishing our signal from the autofluorescence in our immunoassay on immature soybean seeds/seed coats. So far, we have used a light stain of toluidine blue, but I'm not completely happy, and am considering Evans Blue instead. What do others use to quench the yellow autofluorescence (our Ab is FITC labelled) in plant tissues, and when do you actually apply the counterstain? Before the Ab incubations, or after??

thanks so much again in advance
shea



Dr. S. Shea Miller
Agriculture & Agri-food Canada
Eastern Cereal and Oilseed Research Centre
Central Experimental Farm
Ottawa, Ontario
Canada K1A 0C6
Phone: (613) 759-1760
Fax: (613) 759-1701
Email: millers-at-em.agr.ca



From daemon Fri Jun 29 11:05:03 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:58:44 -0400
Subject: RE: Today's Real Humor

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I never heard that before. After 36 years of marriage, and I find this out
NOW?

Fred Monson
} ----------
} From: Nicol Aitken
} Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 10:43 AM
} To: 'Monson, Frederick C.'
} Subject: RE: Today's Real Humor
}
} I'll answer e, even though strictly speaking osculation need not occur!
} Nick
}
} -----Original Message-----
} From: Monson, Frederick C. [mailto:fmonson-at-wcupa.edu]
} Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 1:30 PM
} To: 'Microscopy Listserver'
} Subject: Today's Real Humor
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} Question from an old exam given to students who demanded MORE MULTIPLE
} CHOICE!
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} Which of the following is NOT involved with human reproduction?
}
} a. transcription
} b. replication
} c. translation
} d. osculation
} e. none of the above
}
} Answer tomorrow.
}
}
}
} Frederick C. Monson, PhD
} West Chester University of Pennsylvania
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} South Church Street
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} MailDrop: Department of Geology/Astronomy
} Phone: 610-738-0437
} Fax: 610-436-3036
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From daemon Fri Jun 29 11:05:08 2001



From: John Twilley :      jtwilley-at-sprynet.com
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:01:20 -0400
Subject: Re: immersion oil remover?

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Perhaps I'm missing something from the biological side with which I am
not familiar. However, for my purposes, it has always been very easy to
remove immersion oil using a non-polar organic such as one of the
following: hexane, iso-octane, VM&P Naphtha (Varnish Maker's and
Printer's Naphtha from the hardware store), "petroleum ether" (not
really a C-O-C ether but a mixed alkane distillate), ligroine, etc.


These have the following attributes - they are extremely low in
viscosity so they penetrate any porosity quickly and dissolve the oil;
they evaporate quickly so that any residual oil quickly becomes
apparent, they do not swell or dissolve most mounting materials
(limonene - the environmentally friendly base of many "green" solvents,
is a potent stripper of polymers); and their high vapor pressure makes
them easy to eliminate prior to SEM examination. I have routinely used
immersion oil to temporarily coverslip geological thin sections for
optical microscopy prior to microprobe work and then removed the oil
with these solvents. Several drops in succession, less than a
milliliter total, is sufficient to clean one slide.

John Twilley


Tamara Howard wrote:

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From daemon Fri Jun 29 11:10:59 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:05:31 -0400
Subject: RE: Today's Real Humor Answer

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As we have been instructed for the past twenty years, nothing is NOT
involved with that stuff.

So, 'e' is the correct answer. My students learned to hate multiple choice
as much as I did.

Regards to all, with advice to my son. Always brush your teeth first, so
the kisses are sweet. And he asked, "Mint or wintergreen?"

Have a nice weekend and remember, we can all get away with this because
someone once worked on the 4th of July!

Fred Monson


} ----------
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} Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 1:30 PM
} To: 'Microscopy Listserver'
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}
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}
} Question from an old exam given to students who demanded MORE MULTIPLE
} CHOICE!
}
} Which of the following is NOT involved with human reproduction?
}
} a. transcription
} b. replication
} c. translation
} d. osculation
} e. none of the above
}
} Answer tomorrow.
}
}
}
} Frederick C. Monson, PhD
} West Chester University of Pennsylvania
} Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging (CASI)
} Schmucker II Science Center (Room: SS024(Basement))
} South Church Street
} West Chester, PA, 19383
} MailDrop: Department of Geology/Astronomy
} Phone: 610-738-0437
} Fax: 610-436-3036
} email: fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
} Please call before visiting.
}
}


From daemon Fri Jun 29 12:30:21 2001



From: Monson, Frederick C. :      fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:23:30 -0400
Subject: Microscope Maintenance Companies - Others?

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Here's an old list, checked and amplified, that came to me from "Microscopy
Today"
I have checked all of these URL's

www.home.earthlink.net/~veilcs/ (EM+ special in Philips) (west Coast - USA)
www.southernmicro.com (Georgia) (Research LM)
www.dscoptical.com/services.htm (Boston?) (LM)
www.caleywhitmore.com (Boston?) (LM)
www.opticalexpertise.com (NY) (connection failure?)
www.mwrn.com/product/microscope/repair.htm (LM and EM)
www.sciscope.com/field-service.htm (30+ states) (up to Advanced LM)
www.svms.com/services/index.html (CA) (LM)
www.meyerinst.com (TX) (up to advanced LM)
www.microresource.com/services2.htm (IL) (LM)
www.allometrics.com/microscope_serv.htm (LA)(LM)
www.labworksinc.com (San Francisco) (Limited to specialized LM scope
accessories)
www.mikronet.com (San Diego) (general LM services)
www.uams.edu/oas/OES/oesilab.htm (AR) (University of Arkansaw LM support
facility)
www.uni.edu/pur/mms/equipment.html(U. N. Iowa) (Wide range of equipment
including EM's)
www.dominionmicroscope.com/services.htm (Richmond, VA) (LM and associated
equipment)
www.eosltd.co.uk/ (UK.COM)
www.emsys.co.uk/ (UK.COM)
www.hii.hitachi.com/svcem.htm (Hitachi)
www.leo-usa.com/ (LEO)
www.feic.com/products/index.htm (FEI - Philips)
www.jeol.com/locations/service/service.html (JEOL Service, USA)


Frederick C. Monson, PhD
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging (CASI)
Schmucker II Science Center (Room: SS024(Basement))
South Church Street
West Chester, PA, 19383
MailDrop: Department of Geology/Astronomy
Phone: 610-738-0437
Fax: 610-436-3036
email: fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Please call before visiting.


From daemon Fri Jun 29 13:18:20 2001



From: jmkrupp-at-cats.ucsc.edu (Jon Krupp)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:12:23 -0700
Subject: Confocal questions

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Greetings:

Some faculty here are entertaining the idea of developing a confocal core
facility. There is currently a single confocal microscope on campus in an
individual PI's lab and it is not as available to others as they might like
due to that lab's workload, location, etc.

I have been invited to join the group investigating the possibility of a
second, more general access microscope, probably supported by several
departments. I am currently the person responsible for the EM lab on
campus, we have a TEM and an SEM, plus most of the standard prep.
equipment. We also do some digital imaging. The EM business is not booming,
save for a few hardcore users.

Since I am one of the 'Mr. Microscopes' here, I would like to join this
group with a running start. I ask for your sage advice regarding the
potential good and bad of this proposal and any comments you might offer on
the state of confocal and such a lab.

I know a lot about microscopes, less specifically about confocals, but I
could learn. If the microscope was put into the existing EM lab, I have a
separate room, bench space, hoods etc. Just about anything needed to do
microscopy. The only drawback would be that we are in a different building
than most of the users. Its not a bad walk, but how big a deal is it to
prepare specimens away from one's own lab? It would be pretty fair for the
multiple users, since none of them are all in the same building either,
they would all have to do some traveling to get here.

I am pretty sure there will be the usual squabbling that goes along with
central facilities, like who gets to use it if there is competition, who
will pay for it, etc. Is that likely to be any worse then with any shared
equipment? Am I asking for trouble to have it added to the EM Lab?

Do you have an experience with the kind of day to day issues that a lab
like this might generate. Are there lots of supplies that need to be
ordered and kept on hand? Is the equipment reliable and are there any
special features of one particular type of instrument that would make it
more appropriate for such a general use facility vs. something used by an
individual lab?

Your comments will be carefully considered and as always, greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Jonathan Krupp
Microscopy & Imaging Lab
University of California
Santa Cruz, CA 95064
(831) 459-2477
jmkrupp-at-cats.ucsc.edu




From daemon Fri Jun 29 14:38:20 2001



From: Kevin W. Eliceiri :      eliceiri-at-facstaff.wisc.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:31:56 -0500
Subject: Re: removing immersion oil, not histoclear

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best,
kevin


From daemon Fri Jun 29 16:17:34 2001



From: Gordon Couger :      gordon-at-couger.com
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:07:07 -0500
Subject: Re: long-term storage OR what has happened?

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The department I worked for took a different approach to the students not
"ready for the dance". Every Thursday night the lab was open a faculty
member from assistant professor to department head was there from 7:00 pm
until at least 11:00 pm to help them with what ever problems they had not
just Ag Engineering courses. I worked a research computer programmer and we
didn't teach any programming courses and I had not teaching duties at all
but any student could come to me any time with a computer problem and the
same was true for any member of the staff or faculty for any problem the
students had.

No grad students taught courses or labs.

The policy paid off real well. I don't remember when one of our students
didn't get a job after
graduation and many have gone on to very good things. This years senior
design class is applying for patent on part of their class project.

I realize that farm kids are a good deal better prepared for life than most
students but their
education is usually a good deal poorer in science and math than the kids
from the city and they have a good deal of catching up to do.

You are short changing your students if you just present the knowledge and
walk away.

I realize that the approach we used is difficult to use in departments with
large number of students. Turning education into a mass market commodity is
IMO much of what is wrong with it.

Gordon

Gordon Couger


Stillwater, OK


----- Original Message -----
} From: "Monson, Frederick C." {fmonson-at-wcupa.edu}
}
}
} You are absolutely right, and most of the time we behave just as you
} describe us. Patient, etc. One purpose of my tirade was to point out
that
} there are differences between today and yesterday that give ALL of us
} choices to make. I know a high school student who failed the year,
because
} he wanted to punish his parents. When he told me what he had done, I
} responded that I knew a young man just like him when I was in high school.
} His solution was to get straight A's so he could become more quickly
} independent.
} Science is our own, very human, endeavor. Those of us who do
} science must constantly work to remove the temptations to embellish our
} results, to twist the statistics and to 'jump' to conclusions. But, and
} here's where I differ perhaps slightly. Sometimes, there is a good reason
} to yell! My wife hates my streak of sarcasm! But I was raised on the
} stuff. When I did something 'dumb,' everyone who loved me, joined in the
} derisive repair. I learned to think at my dinner table before I was 10.
I
} did not like to be the but of everyone's attention. My Mom taught, then I
} taught. I only stopped, because no one [too few] wanted to learn any more
} [bad generalization]! Go to college today, and what do you find? Young
} people unprepared for the rigor. Young people unprepared for the
} intellectual dance - as we used to call it. Young people who don't know
} what they want to do and are unwilling to work to find out. "They only do
} what they are taught!" This is my mantra when I look for explanations in
} the mirror. My older son had to learn - for the test - to name NH3 as
} "ammonium", because his chemistry teacher would not believe the Handbook
of
} Chemistry and Physics. My chemistry teacher in public high school took
} chemistry courses at Rutgers every third summer. He was the expert in
} chemistry. My physics teacher had a PhD in the subject. My biology
teacher
} went on to be the chair of Physiology at a large Southern medical school.
} If I wanted to complain about a professor at Lehigh, the Dean would show
me
} a list of nearby schools that had openings. The attitude was clearly
} communicated. The greatest lessons in life are those that teach one to
} manage the worst parts of it. If I failed a course, it was MY failure -
and
} it was at least MY problem! I wanted to be what I am, once I figured
} everything out. The only advice I ever received, when I was having
problems
} with learning, was, "Study harder." My Mom just kept on telling me to
keep
} on trying as hard as I could. If I were young now, I'd be in group
therapy
} and zapped on some pharmaceutical, if the system had its way.
} Given my experience, I hope it is not difficult to understand why I
} might not appear to understand the problems of others. BUT! If I see a
} young person in science who is poorly informed about how it is done, then
I
} will act in that person's behalf even if I am thought, and reported, to be
} insensitive.
} When I was a graduate student, we were all ordered to write
} faculty/course evaluations. I did. I wrote analyses of each course, and
} every one of them was critically positive. Not one word of my analyses
were
} printed. If I had demonized one of my professors, I would have been
writing
} novels today. The people who ordered the writings were ex-faculty
} administrators who were pandering to the new consumer mentality in
} education. If I had gone to my undergraduate department chair to complain
} about a grade, he would have told me that I was wasting his time. Five
} years later, there were lines of boomers outside of department offices.
The
} generation of manipulators had arrived! While they were standing in line,
I
} was learning. While I was learning, they were just getting warmed up!
} I have had ideas snitched! Sometimes I even gave them away. On the
} other hand, I have also had the other side of the experience. For six
} months of learning followed by 30 minutes of consultation and work, I had
} the good fortune to become a molecular biologist. For that effort, the
} individual to whom I gave my best remembered my part - even after he had
} spent years doing the work - and included me in the author list for a
} gene(TERE1) that mapped to Chromosome 1 and appeared in print in a Nature
} publication. He did NOT have to do that. There was NO obligation nor
} agreement. I helped because he asked. People are basically good,
} especially scientists, and I always start with TRUST, and I always will.
} You are still absolutely correct.
}
} Regards for YOUR sensitivity,
}
} Fred Monson




From daemon Fri Jun 29 16:19:55 2001



From: Beavers, Roy :      rbeavers-at-post.cis.smu.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:16:12 -0500
Subject: Microscope magnification

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Need some help trying to figure the magnification of some photos taken with
the following:

Nikon Optiphot-Pol Microscope
CF eyepiece 10X
CF objective 20X

with Nikon AFX-II camera control assembly using a Polaroid 4x5 film holder
with a 4X marked on it.

Focus for images was done through the monocular eyepiece on the camera
assembly.

I assume that my magnification though the microscope eyepiece would be 30X
I assume that the magnification to the camera back would be 24X

Sorry if this seems like a silly question but I do not do much optical
microscopy and got to thinking that it may be more than just the sum of the
optics magnification.

Thanks

Roy Beavers
Southern Methodist University
Dept. of Geological Sciences
Electron Microprobe Lab
P.O. Box 750395
Dallas, Tx 75275
voice: 214-768-2756
fax: 214-768-2701
E-mail: rbeavers-at-mail.smu.edu



From daemon Fri Jun 29 16:33:05 2001



From: Paul Webster :      pwebster-at-hei.org
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:29:37 -0700
Subject: Technologist position open

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The House Ear Institute, a Los Angeles-based, non-profit research and
education center dedicated to the hearing-impaired, has experienced
tremendous growth over the past 50 years. We currently have an exceptional
opportunity for a motivated and innovative self-starter.

You will support research projects in the cell and molecular biology of
hearing. You will also perform advanced research procedures, such as
immunoelectron microscopy and microwave processing, and maintain records.
Requires a detail-oriented, flexible and enthusiastic team player with a BS
in the biomedical field, as well as knowledge of TEM and SEM, specimen
preparation for TEM and SEM, darkroom developing/printing, and digital image
capture/manipulation. Must have efficient communication skills. Familiarity
with electron microscopes, mechanical/electronic equipment, vacuum systems,
and Unix, PC or Mac is ideal. Experience in cell culture, microbiology or
protein purification is useful but not essential.

The Ahmanson Advanced Electron Microscopy and Imaging Center was recently
established to perform independent research and provide support to a cell
and molecular biology program in hearing research. The Center has a CM 120
BioTwin TEM and XL30 SFEG SEM. Specimen preparation equipment include
ultramicrotomes for resin and cryosectioning, sputter coaters, vacuum
evaporator, freeze-substitution, freeze-fracture and rapid freezing devices,
a microwave processor, digital and stereologucal imaging capabilities and an
SGI octane with 3-D reconstruction software.

The House Ear Institute, located in the downtown Los Angeles area, is a
non-profit research and education organization dedicated to improving the
lives of people who have hearing and hearing related disorders. The House
Ear Institute is an Equal Opportunity Employer.

For consideration, please submit resume and cover letter to: House Ear
Institute, Human Resources, 2100 W. 3rd St., Los Angeles, CA 90057-1922.
FAX: (213) 483-8789. E-mail: jobs-at-hei.org.

When applying, please state that you saw this position advertised on the MSA
listserver.

Regards,

Paul Webster




Paul Webster, Ph.D.
Scientist II and Director
Ahmanson Center for Advanced EM & Imaging
House Ear Institute
2100 West 3rd Street
Los Angeles
CA 90057

pwebster-at-hei.org
p: 213 273 8026
f: 213 413 6739
http://www.hei.org/research/depts/aemi/aemi.htm






From daemon Fri Jun 29 16:39:04 2001



From: Andreas Taubert :      taubert-at-seas.upenn.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:46:33 -0400
Subject: support film thicknesses

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Dear Listers,

this is some kind of follow-up question to Thearith's grid problem. We are looking at about 2 nm
features in a polymer matrix. The features have very low contrast with respect to the all-carbon
matrix due to the fact that they mostly contain O and a little Zn. For sample prep reasons we need
to support the samples. Now: Are SiO and Si nitride coatings thin enough to still see such things ?
The available thicknesses of these films seem very large compared to conventional C films.

TIA,

Andreas

*************************************************
Dr. Andreas Taubert
Dept. of Materials Science and Engineering
3231 Walnut Street
University of Pennsylvania
Philadelphia PA 19104-6272
tel: +1 215 898 2700
fax: +1 215 573 2128

Physical Chemistry is everything for
which 1/T is linear ...
*************************************************



From daemon Fri Jun 29 17:09:57 2001



From: Beavers, Roy :      rbeavers-at-post.cis.smu.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:05:48 -0500
Subject: Microscope Magnification correction

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Not thinking today, in my previous message I made assumptions about total
magnification being the sum of the objectives but should have been the
product.

Thanks

Roy Beavers
Southern Methodist University
Dept. of Geological Sciences
Electron Microprobe Lab
P.O. Box 750395
Dallas, Tx 75275
voice: 214-768-2756
fax: 214-768-2701
E-mail: rbeavers-at-mail.smu.edu



From daemon Fri Jun 29 17:21:00 2001



From: Don Grimes :      microtoday-at-mindspring.com
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:58:09 -0500
Subject: Microscope Maintenance Companies - Others?

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Yes, Fred, we published this list in Microscopy Today. We got it from a lady
from Australia, whose name currently escapes me.
Due to the interest in this topic, allow me to request that all readers
contact companies that they know that does microscopy (all
techniques)independent service. Ask them to contact me by email with the
following:
1) Name of organization.
2) Contact info (tel. number and web site)
3) Products serviced
4) Area served (states, region, whatever)
I will organize and publish the full listing, with Nestor's blessing, on
this server.
Best to all,
Don Grimes, Microscopy Today

-----Original Message-----
} From: Monson, Frederick C. [mailto:fmonson-at-wcupa.edu]
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 12:23 PM
To: 'service-at-jcnabity.com'
Cc: 'Microscopy Listserver'


Here's an old list, checked and amplified, that came to me from "Microscopy
Today"
I have checked all of these URL's

www.home.earthlink.net/~veilcs/ (EM+ special in Philips) (west Coast - USA)
www.southernmicro.com (Georgia) (Research LM)
www.dscoptical.com/services.htm (Boston?) (LM)
www.caleywhitmore.com (Boston?) (LM)
www.opticalexpertise.com (NY) (connection failure?)
www.mwrn.com/product/microscope/repair.htm (LM and EM)
www.sciscope.com/field-service.htm (30+ states) (up to Advanced LM)
www.svms.com/services/index.html (CA) (LM)
www.meyerinst.com (TX) (up to advanced LM)
www.microresource.com/services2.htm (IL) (LM)
www.allometrics.com/microscope_serv.htm (LA)(LM)
www.labworksinc.com (San Francisco) (Limited to specialized LM scope
accessories)
www.mikronet.com (San Diego) (general LM services)
www.uams.edu/oas/OES/oesilab.htm (AR) (University of Arkansaw LM support
facility)
www.uni.edu/pur/mms/equipment.html(U. N. Iowa) (Wide range of equipment
including EM's)
www.dominionmicroscope.com/services.htm (Richmond, VA) (LM and associated
equipment)
www.eosltd.co.uk/ (UK.COM)
www.emsys.co.uk/ (UK.COM)
www.hii.hitachi.com/svcem.htm (Hitachi)
www.leo-usa.com/ (LEO)
www.feic.com/products/index.htm (FEI - Philips)
www.jeol.com/locations/service/service.html (JEOL Service, USA)


Frederick C. Monson, PhD
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging (CASI)
Schmucker II Science Center (Room: SS024(Basement))
South Church Street
West Chester, PA, 19383
MailDrop: Department of Geology/Astronomy
Phone: 610-738-0437
Fax: 610-436-3036
email: fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
Please call before visiting.



From daemon Fri Jun 29 17:25:39 2001



From: Eric :      biology-at-ucla.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:24:31 -0700
Subject: UA ka ka on grids

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Ok, I can't resist... I haven't seen anyone mention the way I
learned to do it in 1962...

Cut lens paper into strips a bit wider and longer than the slide.
Place an end of the paper over the end of the slide and add a drop
or so of your favorite liquid to the paper on the slide...just
enough to spread over the width of the slide. Grasp the edge of
the paper and pull slowly down the length of the slide so that the
excess liquid is wicked into the remaining paper as it is pulled
across the slide. Try to run out of paper as you reach the other
end of the slide.

As Ever,
Orin Keplinger
----- Original Message -----
} From: "Tobias Baskin" {BaskinT-at-missouri.edu}
To: {Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com}
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 4:28 PM


Hi there fellow microscopists,

Here in the Pathology EM lab we do not do rocket science, but standard
thin-section TEM of renal biopsies.

In the last two weeks though I have been getting some ka ka (technical
term) on my grids from my UA stain. I have already made up two new batches
of UA stain and use .45 micron filters just before use. Question is that
all of the sudden I am getting UA stain artifact on my grids. I have not
have any trouble since I have been here.
I have changed everything, new staining plate, cleaned and scrubbed
everything that I use for staining. I still get some UA artifact. Is this
normal and should I just forget about it or is there something else wrong I
am missing now. I mix up a 2% UA stain of 50% methanol and 50% water. I
stain for usually 10-12 minutes. the grids before staining or clean, but
after UA stain they are a bit dirty...

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Eric A. Rosen
UCLA Medical Center
Dept. Pathology
EM Lab


From daemon Fri Jun 29 17:34:52 2001



From: Teresa Flores :      tflore-at-lsuhsc.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:32:27 -0500
Subject: MT2&MT2B service

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Fellow colleagues,I am in a dilema. I just found out that RMC(whom our lab
had Maintenance Agreement on two MT2 and one MT2B) has been taken over by
first Ventana and at a later date Biobeck?
Later company is not offereing maintenance service contracts for "old" MT2
or MT2B. Is there any one out there that could refer me to someone who
works on these great workhorses in EM?
Thanking you in advance, Teresa

PS: Mr. Strickland, are you out there?


From daemon Fri Jun 29 17:37:40 2001



From: Purdy, Sam :      SPurdy-at-nationalsteel.com
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:35:13 -0500
Subject: cleaning of oil immersion lenses

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Listers:
I've been following the discussion of lens cleaing and would like
insert my two cents worth. I'm from far outside of generally biological
tenor of this group; an industrial metallographer ( microscopy of metal and
alloys). After using an oil immersion lens, I clean it with Kodak lens
cleaner fluid after blotting up the excess oil with a lens tissue, also
Kodak. After 30 years of use, my lenses are clear and clean with no apparent
deterioration. I did use xylene at first but was dissuaded by knowledgeable
microscope salesman.

Sam Purdy
Technical Center
National Steel Corp.
Trenton MI


From daemon Fri Jun 29 17:44:44 2001



From: Gordon Vrololjak :      gvrdolja-at-nature.Berkeley.EDU
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:39:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Electroscan E3 ESEM

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Hello,
Many thanks to everyone for their helpful comments on the Electrscan E3
SEM. We are still having vacuum problems in wet mode only. It works fine
in High vacuum mode though. We checked the diffusion pumps, tried moving
a rotary pump closer to the column, but no improvement. We are slowly
changing o-rings to see if that helps.

Does anyone have any detailed repair manuals or diagrams with o-rings for
this instrument? We have the customer maintenance manual, but it is
rather limited. It mainly covers how to change apertures and doesn't go
too deep into troubleshooting the vacuum system.

\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Gordon Ante Vrdoljak Electron Microscope Lab
ICQ 23243541 http://nature.berkeley.edu/~gvrdolja 26 Giannini Hall
gvrdolja-at-nature.berkeley.edu UC Berkeley
phone (510) 642-2085 Berkeley CA 94720-3330
fax (510) 643-6207 cell (510) 290-6793



From daemon Fri Jun 29 21:12:15 2001



From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 19:03:23 -0700
Subject: Re: Microscope magnification

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I don't use this scope but I could venture the following guestimates.

If the photo system and light path does not include a separate
photo objective (photo eyepiece) then the film plane magnification
is the objective x 4. This would then be 20 x 4 = 80X.

Usually, with a 35mm camera body, the system is set up to
be 1:1 with the oculars. This would mean 20 x 10 = 200X. If this
field of view is different with the 4x5 cone, then there is some
intermediary lens element. Usually, it is a 2.5X objective.
For photo work, the oculars won't make any difference.

Perhaps some Optiphot experts can help you better.

gary g.


At 02:16 PM 6/29/2001, you wrote:

} Need some help trying to figure the magnification of some photos taken with
} the following:
}
} Nikon Optiphot-Pol Microscope
} CF eyepiece 10X
} CF objective 20X
}
} with Nikon AFX-II camera control assembly using a Polaroid 4x5 film holder
} with a 4X marked on it.
}
} Focus for images was done through the monocular eyepiece on the camera
} assembly.
}
} I assume that my magnification though the microscope eyepiece would be 30X
} I assume that the magnification to the camera back would be 24X
}
} Sorry if this seems like a silly question but I do not do much optical
} microscopy and got to thinking that it may be more than just the sum of the
} optics magnification.
}
} Thanks
}
} Roy Beavers
} Southern Methodist University
} Dept. of Geological Sciences
} Electron Microprobe Lab
} P.O. Box 750395
} Dallas, Tx 75275
} voice: 214-768-2756
} fax: 214-768-2701
} E-mail: rbeavers-at-mail.smu.edu



From daemon Fri Jun 29 22:31:45 2001



From: Tindall, Randy D. :      TindallR-at-missouri.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 22:25:40 -0500
Subject: UA ka ka on grids

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Eric,

We have found staining artifacts to be one of the most frustrating,
intermittent mysteries of all. A while back we began having trouble with UA
and Pb contamination where no trouble had occured before---same stains, same
processing, same everything, but suddenly there was goop everywhere. We
mixed new stains, changed all of our 0.2 um filters, spun everything down,
and filtered again, used NaOH religiously, held our breath while staining,
etc., etc., etc. Finally, the only thing we could think of was water, so we
called in our water system maintainer (let's just call them "Hey Mystery
Man!!!!) who had been servicing our reverse osmosis, deionization system
forever.

Well, they said, your system's shot. The diaphragm's bad, the cartridges
are way expired, and the filter is one big bucket of rust. You need to
maintain this better. We informed them that we paid them a princely sum to
maintain it for us and what the h... were they doing every month when they
came in to fuss with it?

Turns out that they thought we owned the system and had only been swapping
out some tank or other, and they assumed we were doing the rest. When we
produced documentation of our service contract on their leased system that
we had been paying on since about 1735 A.D., there was an awkward pause.
Then we fired them.

We purchased a Millipore tabletop water purification system that solved our
problems overnight. It's a small, low-volume gizmo that produces a few
litres of ultra-high purity water a day. Costs about $1200, as I recall,
and requires annual filter changes to the tune of $200-300.

Moral of the story: Check the water when all else fails. Worked for us,
anyway. Couldn't hurt to check.

We have no stake in Millipore whatsoever, except as relieved users of one of
their products.

Randy Tindall
Electron Microscopy Core
University of Missouri



-----Original Message-----
} From: Eric
To: 'Microscopy Listserver'
Sent: 6/29/01 5:24 PM


Hi there fellow microscopists,

Here in the Pathology EM lab we do not do rocket science, but standard
thin-section TEM of renal biopsies.

In the last two weeks though I have been getting some ka ka (technical
term) on my grids from my UA stain. I have already made up two new
batches
of UA stain and use .45 micron filters just before use. Question is
that
all of the sudden I am getting UA stain artifact on my grids. I have
not
have any trouble since I have been here.
I have changed everything, new staining plate, cleaned and scrubbed
everything that I use for staining. I still get some UA artifact. Is
this
normal and should I just forget about it or is there something else
wrong I
am missing now. I mix up a 2% UA stain of 50% methanol and 50% water.
I
stain for usually 10-12 minutes. the grids before staining or clean,
but
after UA stain they are a bit dirty...

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Eric A. Rosen
UCLA Medical Center
Dept. Pathology
EM Lab


From daemon Sat Jun 30 02:17:47 2001



From: Feng Wu :      fwu-at-bgumail.bgu.ac.il
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 10:06:19 +0300
Subject: GaN/Sapphire thinned by PIPS

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Dear All,

I met some problems during I prepared the samples for GaN/sapphire plan-view
using tripod wedge technique. After polishing, the sample was thinned by pips
in one side. However, The other side usually was covered by copper, as a result
the sample became dark. It seems the unthinned side should be covered something
to prevent sputtered materials from growing on it. Do you have some knowledge
on it?

Thanks in advance.

Best regards.

Feng
**********************************************
Dr. Feng Wu
Dept. of Materials Engineering
Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
Beer-Sheva 84105, Israel

voice 972-8-6461473
fax 972-8-6472944
fwu-at-bgumail.bgu.ac.il
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From daemon Sat Jun 30 08:36:31 2001



From: Chaoying Ni :      cni-at-udel.edu
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 09:25:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: GaN/Sapphire thinned by PIPS

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Mica! 1stly core drill a 3mm disc. Then use sharp tweezers to peel a thin
piece from dozens or even hundreds of layers in the mica disc depending
how good you are to separate them. Anyway you just need one thin piece to
cover the other side, and you may be able to reuse that thin piece.

*********************************
Chaoying Ni, PhD
Electron Microscopy Laboratory
Materials Science and Engineering
College of Engineering
University of Delaware
Newark, DE 19716
*********************************

On Sat, 30 Jun 2001, Feng Wu wrote:

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} I met some problems during I prepared the samples for GaN/sapphire plan-view
} using tripod wedge technique. After polishing, the sample was thinned by pips
} in one side. However, The other side usually was covered by copper, as a result
} the sample became dark. It seems the unthinned side should be covered something
} to prevent sputtered materials from growing on it. Do you have some knowledge
} on it?
}
} Thanks in advance.
}
} Best regards.
}
} Feng
} **********************************************
} Dr. Feng Wu
} Dept. of Materials Engineering
} Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
} Beer-Sheva 84105, Israel
}
} voice 972-8-6461473
} fax 972-8-6472944
} fwu-at-bgumail.bgu.ac.il
} **********************************************
}
}
}



From daemon Sat Jun 30 08:55:12 2001



From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 09:50:03 -0500
Subject: Surface protectant when thinning

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-- [ From: Garber, Charles A. * EMC.Ver #3.1 ] --

Dr. Feng Wu wrote:
===============================================
I met some problems during I prepared the samples for GaN/sapphire plan-view
using tripod wedge technique. After polishing, the sample was thinned by
pips in one side. However, The other side usually was covered by copper, as
a result the sample became dark. It seems the unthinned side should be
covered something to prevent sputtered materials from growing on it. Do you
have some knowledge on it?
=================================================
There are two materials that to the degree we have been able to determine,
are essentially equivalent for this purpose: One is called Microshield™ and
the other Lacomit™.

SPI Supplies has offered Microshield for this purpose and more information
about its use and application can be found on the SPI Supplies website at
URL
http://www.2spi.com/catalog/chem/microshield.html

Disclaimer: SPI Supplies has not done any careful analysis to prove that
Microshield and Lacomit are identical, only that for this particular TEM
application, they do seem to be equivalent. If there is information to the
contrary, we would appreciate hearing about it. Suggestion: Use in
conjunction with the Microshield remover.

Chuck

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From daemon Sat Jun 30 09:20:18 2001



From: David Burton :      dburton-at-nwlink.com
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 07:17:03 -0700
Subject: Re: Microscope magnification

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} Need some help trying to figure the magnification of some photos taken
with
} the following:
}
} Nikon Optiphot-Pol Microscope
} CF eyepiece 10X
} CF objective 20X
}
Hi Roy,


If you still have access to the microscope, put a specimen on the stage
which has a large feature, one you can accurately measure. Use the lowest
power lens available. Remove the film cassette from the camera and stretch
a piece of Scotch Magic tape across the film plane. Focus on the specimen,
lower the room lights and measure the size of the image on the scotch tape,
which will now be clearly visible. You could also measure some feature on
the original slide and compare it to the photograph.

I would guess the mag factor is 80x, but you can confirm that using this
process.

Dave Burton
Optical Specialist
University of Washington



From daemon Sat Jun 30 14:18:53 2001



From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:11:01 -0500
Subject: Mat. Sci. TEM Sample Prep: Silicon nitride membrane window grids

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-- [ From: Garber, Charles A. * EMC.Ver #3.1 ] --

Dr. Andreas Taubert asked:
=============================================
this is some kind of follow-up question to Thearith's grid problem. We are
looking at about 2 nm features in a polymer matrix. The features have very
low contrast with respect to the all-carbon matrix due to the fact that they
mostly contain O and a little Zn. For sample prep reasons we need to support
the samples. Now: Are SiO and Si nitride coatings thin enough to still see
such things ? The available thicknesses of these films seem very large
compared to conventional C films.
=============================================
If the thinnest thickness of the nitride should still be too much, which is
presently 30 nm, but soon to be reduced to the 10-20 nm range, the present
silicon nitride membrane grids can be furnished "holey", that is, with a
matrix of holes that are about as small as you want them, in just about any
arrangement that you might want them. In that kind of situation, there is
no nitride underneath the sample being analyzed, so long as you are looking
"through" the holes. The only carbon (or oxygen) present is that which is
coming from the sample. The typical compliment of holes approximately
doubles the cost of the grid, because it is a separate operation done by
micromachining techniques. This is explained in greater detail at URL
http://www.2spi.com/catalog/instruments/silicon-nitride.html

Disclaimer: SPI Supplies offers silicon nitride membrane window grids, both
with and without the holes.

Chuck
===================================================
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President 1-(800)-2424-SPI
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From daemon Sat Jun 30 19:15:39 2001



From: Jim at Proscitech :      jim-at-proscitech.com
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 10:09:28 +1000
Subject: RE: GaN/Sapphire thinned by PIPS

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The ion beam forms a cloud of debris, which settles on the reverse side of the
specimen and this needs to be covered. A double beam ion gun system avoid that
problem because the specimen is thinned on both sides simultaneously.
Cheers
Jim Darley
ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS
PO Box 111, Thuringowa QLD 4817 Australia
Ph +61 7 4774 0370 Fax:+61 7 4789 2313 service-at-proscitech.com
Great microscopy catalogue, 500 Links, MSDS, User Notes
ABN: 99 724 136 560 www.proscitech.com

On Saturday, June 30, 2001 5:06 PM, Feng Wu [SMTP:fwu-at-bgumail.bgu.ac.il] wrote:
}
} Dear All,
}
} I met some problems during I prepared the samples for GaN/sapphire plan-view
} using tripod wedge technique. After polishing, the sample was thinned by pips
}
} in one side. However, The other side usually was covered by copper, as a
} result
} the sample became dark. It seems the unthinned side should be covered
} something
} to prevent sputtered materials from growing on it. Do you have some knowledge
}
} on it?
}
} Thanks in advance.
}
} Best regards.
}
} Feng
} **********************************************
} Dr. Feng Wu
} Dept. of Materials Engineering
} Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
} Beer-Sheva 84105, Israel
}
} voice 972-8-6461473
} fax 972-8-6472944
} fwu-at-bgumail.bgu.ac.il
} **********************************************


From daemon Sat Jun 30 22:12:56 2001



From: sterling stoudenmire :      sstouden-at-thelinks.com
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 22:26:45 -0500
Subject: scintillation crystals

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i am trying to find a way into the literature on experimental techniques
appropriate to study 511 photon detection and capture vs properties of
scintillating materials. Is there a standard way to do this?

Can someone point me at a good place to begin a literature survey?'
sorry, my question is not better phrased, but I am just beginning to look
at this?

sterling


Computer Aided Cell and Molecular Biology (CACMB), not medicine, will find
the cure for cancer and other diseases. There will always be a need for
the trained clinician (MD/RN) but, advanced diagnostic and treatment option
selection has become gene based, has moved from the physician's practice to
the computerized cell and molecular biology laboratory, and appropriate
treatment options should now be based on the personal biology of the
patient.


From daemon Sat Jul 7 12:18:41 2001



From: Gordon Nord :      gnord-at-mindspring.com
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 13:05:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Software for crystal structure/TEM simulation for PC

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Dear Maria,

I don't think there is a PC version of MacTempas.

The nearest program in the PC world is JEMS.
I recently examined what was available from PC's particularly a program
that could simulate electron diffraction.

I purchased Pierre Stadelman's JEMS - runs in JAVA - and it is beautiful
for both images and diffraction.
Runs very nicely on a Compaq 1.6 GHz machine with 512 MB and will also run
on a Mac or Sun.
I have already set up all the amphibole minerals mainly for electron
diffraction work.
Very useful so far. JEMS also plays well with triclinic phases something
many other programs have difficulty with.
Something to do with right angles I guess.

Check it out at {http://cimewww.epfl.ch/people/stadelmann}

MacTempas and CrystalKit together were(?) unique however in how they were
able to treat interfaces such as twins.
I don't think JEMS does this very easily.

I found however that if you are interested in looking at crystal structures
neither CrystalKit nor JEMS can compete with David Palmer's CrystalMaker
program which currently runs only on a Mac. He is however working on a C++
version that will run on PC's.

Check it out at {http://www.crystalmaker.co.uk} and email him that you are
anxiously awaiting the PC version.

My advice is purchase an $800 iMac and run the Mac programs and give JEMS a
good look for your PC.
Can't have too many platforms.

Cheers,
Gordon Nord
US Geological Survey - Emeritus


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} Is there nay other windows platform Package doing a similat job?
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} with thanks
}
} Maria Lada
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From daemon Sun Jul 8 10:50:32 2001



From: Philip Oshel :      peoshel-at-facstaff.wisc.edu
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:29:11 -0600
Subject: Re: HMDS

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HMDS *MUST* be used in a hood. I'm at home as well, so don't have the
MSDS, but there is no question about this.

Phil

} Hi Liststers!
} I would appreciate any information on the safety of
} hexamethyldisilazane (HMDS). I didn't get much out of the data
} sheet. I would like to know what I am working with... Is it
} hazardous to one's health? I don't have a hood in my room, but I
} could move to another room which does have a hood. Thanks!

--
}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{
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Supervisor, AMFSC and BBPIC microscopy facilities
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University of Wisconsin
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Madison, WI 53706 - 1284
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