I would like to do imaging of live GFP expressing mammalian cells. I am concerned about regulating pH without needing a gas flow system on the stage. Is adding HEPES to media sufficient to control pH in a bicarbonate based medium? Has anyone tried the Gibco CO2 independent medium to know if it is a high riboflavin medium (proprietary formula so I can't look it up). Thanks- Dave -- Permanent Address Dr. David Knecht Department of Molecular and Cell Biology University of Connecticut 75 N. Eagleville Rd. U-125 Storrs, CT 06269-3125 knecht-at-uconn.edu 860-486-2200 860-486-4331 (fax) home page: http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mcbstaff/knecht/knecht.html
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Try iCal {http://www.brownbearsw.com/index.html} , it may not be completely suitable for a large shared facility (somewhat limited use of alternate logins), but we use it on several smaller pieces of shared equipment (runs on NT). You can try the software as a shareware demo.
Another possibility is {http://www.loci.wisc.edu/calendar/} , which was described in a recent article in BioTechniques.
No commercial interest in either software. Doug
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I'm searching for freeze-substitution protocols (without using of any fixative), preferably fast and slow protocols, for plant leaf specimen preparation. I'm working on localizing nickel element in the plant leaves of a hyperacumulator plant, hence using cryo preparation methods. I'll highly appreciate any contributions and help in this.
My thanks in advance.
Chris Ogomo MSc Student University of the Western Cape Rep of S. Africa
Yeah, this book is really a good book for beginners. but there is now second edition in 1999 available 670pp, ISBN 0-7637-0192-0. The content is from basic structure and principles of TEM and SEM to sample preparation with many vivid pictures, mainly for tissue samples, also some pages on FT. This book is very basic, but not advanced, and it is quite cheap($8) .
Chen Chen
Department of Biological Chemistry The Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine 725 N. Wolfe Street Baltimore, Maryland 21218
On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 akc-at-umich.edu-at-sparc5.microscopy.com wrote:
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I am working on a multidisciplinary team of researchers on a number of very interesting projects. I have a very large collection of top quality micrographs from these projects which I would like to publish. The microscopy samples have been selected and photographed within the experimental design which has been set out for each project, so we are pretty sure they are representative of what's there.
One collaborator on the team is hesitant (to the point of being resistant) about my publishing any of the microscopy as part of any of the publications put together by the team because we have not looked at 30-40 samples of each of the many experimental treatments ( we have done 4 samples of each treatment) . The other researchers on the team have looked at between 30 and 40 samples per treatment. This one collaborator says that she has no confidence in the microscopy results because "the statistics just aren't there".
I have tried on numberous occasions to explain to her about why this is not feasible to do in SEM, and is usually not done. She does not believe me and is essentially preventing me from publishing the work. I could probably publish this work as a stand alone ms, but it is so much more meaningful when integrated with data from the other analytical techniques.
My question: is there a reference (which I have somehow missed) to explain why 30-40 samples is not feasible for microscopy and which rationalizes why this is so? The function of microscopy in the projects has been to give pictorial information about the samples, and to suggest trends, not for absolute measurement of structures and changes in them.
Any help you can provide would be very much appreciated - before I rip all of my hair out....
Thanks in advance, listers, to all of you. I know I came to the right place.
Paula.
Paula Allan-Wojtas Research Scientist - Food Microstructure Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada Atlantic Food and Horticulture Research Centre Kentville, Nova Scotia Canada B4N 1J5
Electron Microscopy by John Bozzola and Lonnie Russell is excellent. I use it for both my TEM and SEM class. Biological Electron Microscopy by Michael J. Dykstra is also useful. It is more compact in size so easier om students' backs, and still seems to cover the necessary material. It doesn't include the extensive ultrastructure section Bozzola's book has. Either is good, and there are also many other good books out there. I have always spent a lot of time at the library display at the MSA meetings. Joyce Craig Chicago State University
Anthrax is actually the disease caused by the spore-forming bacterium Bacillus anthracis. The bacterium in question is actually named Bacillus anthracis. I guess it is easier for the news media to say anthrax than bacillus anthracis.
Tyrone Daulton
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Dear Collegues. I Have a Microlumina camera in my lab and lost the EasyScan 1.2 software as a result of a virus attack. The original diskas are by now unreadable. Does anyone have a copy of this software? I would be eternally gratefull if someone could send me a copy by e-mail to the address below. I think that the camera has been descontinued and is no longer available comercially.
Thanks in advance Dr. A.P. Alves de Matos Lisbon University Dental Medical School apmatos-at-ip.pt
Dear Dee, When I looked at latex spheres made in our Pathology department, I just dried a drop out of the suspension onto a polished graphite planchet. A glass cover slip is also a good substrate, if you are going to gold-coat anyway. If the carrier is really DI, it should dry away clean. If there is stuff in the DI, you will get smut around the spheres. I believe the polystyrene is strong enough to hold up to drying. If the spheres are small enough, they stick to the graphite themselves. If they are larger and in danger of rolling off, dry them onto a sticky tab. At 06:07 PM 10/29/01 -0500, you wrote: } } Hi listers, } } I've been asked to look at some polystyrene microspherules in the SEM and } would like some advice on how to prepare them. I'm not a biomedical } person, so need some help! } } The spherules are 5.6 um size with a Lumidin (protein) bonding surface and } receptor molecules attached. They're in DI (or a DI solution?), which is } apparently the delivery system for the marker molecules. Would they need } CPD? If so, I've never CPD'd particles in solution before.... The SEM has } hivac and VP modes, plus there's a cool stage. } } Any ideas would be highly appreciated! } Many thanks, } Dee Regards, Mary
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Hi Darren, Under separate cover I am sending an Excel table with plastics, their monomers and their indices of refraction. At least this may help you look.
Fred Monson
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} ---------- } From: dmichael-at-usc.edu } Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 5:13 PM } To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com } Subject: Ask-A-Microscopist: high index of refraction plastic } coverslips } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ } The Microscopy ListServer -- Sponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- Send Email to ListServer-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com } On-Line Help http://www.msa.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } -----------------------------------------------------------------------. } } } Below is the result of your feedback form (NJZFM-ultra-55). It was } submitted by (dmichael-at-usc.edu) from } http://www.msa.microscopy.com/Ask-A-Microscopist.html on Wednesday, } October 31, 2001 at 12:13:55 } -------------------------------------------------------------------------- } - } } Email: dmichael-at-usc.edu } Name: Darren Michael } } Organization: University of Southern California } } Education: Graduate College } } Location: Los Angeles, CA } } Question: Hi, } } I'm trying to find high index of refraction plastic coverslips. } I've read about eyeglasses with high index of refraction (1.66) } plastic lenses and have been unable to locate a manufacturer of } coverslips using the same types of materials. Have you come across } them? Do you have any suggestions as to whom to ask? } } Thanks, } } Darren } } -------------------------------------------------------------------------- } - } }
Does anyone know of a most excellent method of fixing the mucin layers of a cell culture for TEM? There is a rumor of some osmium/fluoride compound that I'm trying to track down (osmium perfluouro-something?), but no luck yet. Personal experiences, references, and sources for exotic compounds would all be most welcome.
Thanks much.
Randy
Randy Tindall EM Specialist Electron Microscopy Core Facility W122 Veterinary Medicine University of Missouri Columbia, MO 65211 Tel: (573) 882-8304 Fax: (573) 884-5414 Email: tindallr-at-missouri.edu Web: http://www.biotech.missouri.edu/emc/
If you are teaching biological TEM, then you might consider using as a corollary "Cell and Tissue Ultrastructure: A Functional Perspective" by Cross and Mercer, pub by W.H.Freeman & Co NY. No sample prep or EM operation, but beautifully-presented micrographs illustrating ultrastructure and tissue types.
A.L.
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-----Original Message----- } From: Joyce Craig [mailto:J-Craig-at-csu.edu] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 12:07 PM To: Microscopy microscopy
Electron Microscopy by John Bozzola and Lonnie Russell is excellent. I use it for both my TEM and SEM class. Biological Electron Microscopy by Michael J. Dykstra is also useful. It is more compact in size so easier om students' backs, and still seems to cover the necessary material. It doesn't include the extensive ultrastructure section Bozzola's book has. Either is good, and there are also many other good books out there. I have always spent a lot of time at the library display at the MSA meetings. Joyce Craig Chicago State University
At 09:21 AM 11/1/01 -0500, Chen Chen wrote: } Yeah, this book is really a good book for beginners. but there is now second } edition in 1999 available 670pp, ISBN 0-7637-0192-0. The content is from basic } structure and principles of TEM and SEM to sample preparation with many vivid } pictures, mainly for } tissue samples, also some pages on FT. This book is very basic, but not } advanced, } and it is quite cheap($8) .
Not sure about mucin, but have you looked into ruthenium red????
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Tindall, Randy D. wrote:
} Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 12:45:17 -0600 } From: Tindall, Randy D. {TindallR-at-missouri.edu} } To: "'microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com'" {microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com} } Subject: TEM: Mucin fixation } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ } The Microscopy ListServer -- Sponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- Send Email to ListServer-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com } On-Line Help http://www.msa.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } -----------------------------------------------------------------------. } } } Dear Listers, } } Does anyone know of a most excellent method of fixing the mucin layers of a } cell culture for TEM? There is a rumor of some osmium/fluoride compound } that I'm trying to track down (osmium perfluouro-something?), but no luck } yet. Personal experiences, references, and sources for exotic compounds } would all be most welcome. } } Thanks much. } } Randy } } } Randy Tindall } EM Specialist } Electron Microscopy Core Facility } W122 Veterinary Medicine } University of Missouri } Columbia, MO 65211 } Tel: (573) 882-8304 } Fax: (573) 884-5414 } Email: tindallr-at-missouri.edu } Web: http://www.biotech.missouri.edu/emc/ } } } } } }
Sara E. Miller, Ph. D. P. O. Box 3712 Duke University Medical Center Durham, NC 27710 Ph: 919 684-3452 FAX: 919 684-3265
No one has mentioned this book, so I might as well: "Biomedical Electron Microscopy" by A.B. Maunsbach and B.A. Afzelius Academic Press, 1999, ISBN 0-12-480610-4 This text has many EMs comparing the effects of using different fixatives, buffers, embedding resins, and so forth. An excellent companion to Bozzola & Russell. Note: check ebay. I got my copy there for about 2/3 of the retail price.
Phil
} Electron Microscopy by John Bozzola and Lonnie Russell is excellent. I } use it for both my TEM and SEM class. } Biological Electron Microscopy by Michael J. Dykstra is also useful. It } is more compact in size so easier om students' backs, and still seems to } cover the necessary material. It doesn't include the extensive } ultrastructure section Bozzola's book has. } Either is good, and there are also many other good books out there. } I have always spent a lot of time at the library display at the MSA } meetings. } Joyce Craig } Chicago State University
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Hello Paula, How many samples you need to examine depends on the details of the experiment, i.e. nature of specimens, the types of measurements taken, and most importantly the experimental question that is addressed by the experiments. The question to whether you have significant statistics is dictated by these enumerated, and perhaps other, factors. These factors will obviously differ for different experiments which have different goals.
My advice is to sit down and examine closely the experimental questions you choose to address and decide whether the data you have collected has the necessary statistics to adequately constrain the interpretations of the data.
The only meaningful reference (of which you seek) would be one that discusses measurement statistics on similar experiments, taking similar measurements, and addressing similar questions.
I hope this is of some help, good luck. Ty
Paula Allan-Wojtas wrote:
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Even statistically speaking, the number of samples that you need depends on the variability between samples in your group and the extent to which the experimental group varies from the controls.
If your experimental group consistently looks one way and your controls consistently and obviously look different from the experimental group, I don't see why you would need to run statistics.
But it really depends on what you are trying to say. If all you are trying to point out is group one looks different than normal and it is obvious in all of your samples, (by obvious, I mean obvious to a trained eye) statistics is a waste of time. However, when you start to say group one looks somewhat worse than group two which looks somewhat worse than normal, and some of the specimens in the group actually look the same as, or better than ,the ones in the better group, then you'd need statistics. There are ways to figure out how big the group actually needs to be by taking a sample and determining the variability within and between groups (say on your 4 samples already obtained). I'm betting if you really can see something with these few samples, the estimation of sample size needed for statistics will be allot less than 30-40.
Unfortunately, I don't know of any articles you can site about the use of statistics in SEM off hand. Sorry. I've personally run into people recommending these ridiculously large sample sizes because they work with people. I work with animals and have allot more control over inter subject variability than they do, therefore I can work with a much smaller sample size even for statistics.
Good luck,
Karen Pawlowski, Ph.D.
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We regularly use 1% osmium tetroxide with 8% dimethoxypropane (DMP) in acetone for woody plant tissues with good success. The DMP removes water from the solution. We substitute for 5 days at -80 C. Anything less that 3 days won't work at all and more than 5 days makes no difference. We have used straight acetone for immuno work but the fixation (i.e. membranes) is not so great and the images are low in contrast. Other possibilities are 0.2 to 2% glutaraldehyde in acetone, with or without tannic acid. This is good for protein preservation for immuno work. Methanol is reported to work but not as well as acetone (I haven't successfully used it).
Let me know if I can be of further help.
Kim ------- Kim Rensing Ph.D. Dept. of Botany, UBC 6270 University Blvd Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z4
} I'm searching for freeze-substitution protocols (without using of any } fixative), preferably fast and slow protocols, for plant leaf specimen } preparation. I'm working on localizing nickel element in the plant leaves of } a hyperacumulator plant, hence using cryo preparation methods. I'll highly } appreciate any contributions and help in this. } } My thanks in advance. } } Chris Ogomo } MSc Student } University of the Western Cape } Rep of S. Africa
Below is the result of your feedback form (NJZFM-ultra-55). It was submitted by (griggsa-at-dbcc.cc.fl.us) from http://www.msa.microscopy.com/Ask-A-Microscopist.html on Thursday, November 1, 2001 at 14:26:59 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
on 11/1/01 9:41 AM, Paula Allan-Wojtas at AllanWojtasP-at-EM.AGR.CA wrote:
} I am working on a multidisciplinary team of researchers on a number of very } interesting projects. I have a very large collection of top quality } micrographs from these projects which I would like to publish. The microscopy } samples have been selected and photographed within the experimental design } which has been set out for each project, so we are pretty sure they are } representative of what's there. } } One collaborator on the team is hesitant (to the point of being resistant) } about my publishing any of the microscopy as part of any of the publications } put together by the team because we have not looked at 30-40 samples of each } of the many experimental treatments ( we have done 4 samples of each } treatment) . The other researchers on the team have looked at between 30 and } 40 samples per treatment. This one collaborator says that she has no } confidence in the microscopy results because "the statistics just aren't } there". } } I have tried on numberous occasions to explain to her about why this is not } feasible to do in SEM, and is usually not done. She does not believe me and } is essentially preventing me from publishing the work. I could probably } publish this work as a stand alone ms, but it is so much more meaningful when } integrated with data from the other analytical techniques. } } My question: is there a reference (which I have somehow missed) to explain why } 30-40 samples is not feasible for microscopy and which rationalizes why this } is so? The function of microscopy in the projects has been to give pictorial } information about the samples, and to suggest trends, not for absolute } measurement of structures and changes in them. } } Any help you can provide would be very much appreciated - before I rip all of } my hair out.... } Dear Paula, As others have said, it depends on what kind of experiment you're looking at. Even if all the experimental samples look different from the controls, if you're trying to quantitate the changes--e.g., adding X to the culture shrinks the cells by Y%--you may still need sufficient data to make the numbers significant and to provide a standard deviation. Is is also important to have looked at different, independently-prepared samples, so if the few samples you observed were all from one experiment, I, too, would have doubts that they were sufficient. Then there's the problem that one selects what to photograph, and this selection always involves subjective factors. All that being said, however, if each of the other properties measured in the experiment were consistent from prep to prep, and if what you see correlates with what was measured, then, IMHO, it would be proper to publish the micrographs to illustrate what was found, regardless of how many or few you have. Good luck. Yours, Bill Tivol
Paula Most of us have grappled with this problem, but there is no generally applicable answer to the question "How many samples do I need to examine?". You are correct in saying that most electron microscopists don't attempt to examine 30-40 samples per treatment, but sometimes that is unavoidable. If the scientific question you are asking is a quantitative one - e.g. what proportion of cells have a particular morphology in normal and diseased tissues - and especially if the legal or public health or commercial cost implications of the answer are very significant - then it may be necessary to examine the number of samples and analyse the number of photographs demanded by the statisticians. If on the other hand you just want to illustrate the effect of a particular mutation on the shape of a fly's eye 2-3 representative samples are probably adequate. I feel hampered in making any really helpful suggestions about your experiment because it is not clear from your message what the nature of the experiment is, or what kind of observations you are attempting to make. Could you tell us more about that?
Best wishes Chris
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October 30, 2001
By JAMES GLANZ
Environmental scientists have spent decades studying the physics and physiology of particles very much like those in the most dangerous forms of biological weaponry.
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Thank you to everyone who has responded, so far. It has been very helpful for me. The responses have covered the whole spectrum from "yes, do the 30-40 samples" to "3-4 is probably enough". The majority of the answers fell in between these 2 points, saying that the number of samples required to be representative really depends on what you want/need to know from the samples and the sample variability. This could be partially achieved by taking pictures randomly over different samples. I will post a summary of answers soon. Anyone who does not want me to reveal their reply/name please contact me offline to let me know.
In some other unrelated work that we have done recently, we took the approach of working with a statistician from the outset. The project was a much more focused one, and we were looking for treatment effects, and intensity of these. One of the first steps was to actually do a small study to assess the variability of the population, and factors which affected it. With this information we were able to move to the next phase, actually testing the treatments. Statistics (experimental design, proper data collection and analysis of the data) allowed us to separate the population variability from the treatment effects, even when they were subtle. The result was information which did not agree with published literature or longheld assumptions which had arrived at through studies that did not have the "statistical rigour" that our studies did. Sorry to be vague about this, but it will be some months before I can openly talk about this work. I just wanted to say, for the record, that I am not against a statistical approach. I think it's a great idea, and I think it's the way to go.
In the original work I contacted the group about yesterday, we were just making some preliminary observations about the samples and suggesting that a connection could be made between the microscopy and other analytical methods. I have published other papers of this type with other workgroups, and everyone was ok with the "representative micrographs" idea, provided the usual disclaimers were used - "possible relationship" rather than "correlation"; "preliminary observations" ;More work should be done with more samples to be certain we're seeing what we think we're seeing " a first attempt at trying to relate microstructure to..."
I really can't go into more detail about this situation for obvious reasons. Suffice it to say that I plan to do my microscopy from now on in a new frame of mind, and will take some time to speak with a statistician before I start any new projects. My quest is to get the work I originally described, and all the work that we did connected to it, published in some form (complete with all the disclaimers necessary) as soon as I can.
Thanks again for all your help and support.
Paula.
Paula Allan-Wojtas Research Scientist - Food Microstructure Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada Atlantic Food and Horticulture Research Centre Kentville, Nova Scotia Canada B4N 1J5
We have been looking at marine algae in the same size range for quite some time. One of the considerations is having the sample distributed well enough to see individual particles and have a uniform random distribution for statistical purposes. Drying down from a drop of liquid tends to bunch up the particles and distribute the size ranges non-uniformly. We have used polycarbonate filters (Nuclepore, Poretics) and filter from liquid solution to collect the particles on a low profile background.
There are a number of pore sizes to choose from, select the one just below the size range of interest so that smaller detritus is removed. Try a dilution series to get a useable concentration. If the particles have enough inherent rigidity so they do not collapse, air drying is sufficient. We mount the filters on SEM stubs while still somewhat damp (they will fly off with static and/or handling of the flimsy material when completely dry). We then coat with gold. The one caution here is when the vacuum is applied and released make sure that it is done slowly so that large bursts of air don't sweep over the particles. Having said that our experience is that micron sized particles tend to stick to the surface they lay on. If you are adventurous you might try looking at the particles uncoated in VP mode.
Hope this helps.
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At 06:07 PM 10/29/01 -0500, you wrote: } } Hi listers, } } I've been asked to look at some polystyrene microspherules in the SEM and } would like some advice on how to prepare them. I'm not a biomedical } person, so need some help! } } The spherules are 5.6 um size with a Lumidin (protein) bonding surface and } receptor molecules attached. They're in DI (or a DI solution?), which is } apparently the delivery system for the marker molecules. Would they need } CPD? If so, I've never CPD'd particles in solution before.... The SEM has } hivac and VP modes, plus there's a cool stage. } } Any ideas would be highly appreciated! } Many thanks, } Dee
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Ruthenium red, as Sara Miller wrote, works well. Osmium can be dissolved in organic compounds, the idea being not to expose the object of your study to aqueous solvents while it is being fixed. I don't know how well osmium fixes the mucin you are interested in. Glutaraldehyde and formaldehyde can also be "dissolved" or partitioned into organic solvents to accomplish the same end. This is known as phase partition fixation. I will send a reference if you like. Of course, if you are working with plastic culture dishes, the organic solvent must not react with the dish.
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If you are not quantifying the microstructure with stereological measurements, then you use your qualitative judgment as to whether the micrographs that you use are representative. Typically you will get a feel for it. If on the other hand, you are using quantitative microscopy techniques, there are statistical tests that you judge your results by. These tests will tell you whether your sampling is sufficient. I recommend that you look at several books on the topic. The materials science oriented books that I am familiar with are DeHoff and Rhines "Quantitative Microscopy" and John Russ's books; try the "Image Processing Handbook" for example. John runs a short course on this topic every year and DeHoff is a co-instructor.
-Scott
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-----Original Message----- } From: Tyrone L. Daulton [mailto:tdaulton-at-nrlssc.navy.mil] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 5:54 PM To: Paula Allan-Wojtas; microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
Hello Paula, How many samples you need to examine depends on the details of the experiment, i.e. nature of specimens, the types of measurements taken, and most importantly the experimental question that is addressed by the experiments. The question to whether you have significant statistics is dictated by these enumerated, and perhaps other, factors. These factors will obviously differ for different experiments which have different goals.
My advice is to sit down and examine closely the experimental questions you choose to address and decide whether the data you have collected has the necessary statistics to adequately constrain the interpretations of the data.
The only meaningful reference (of which you seek) would be one that discusses measurement statistics on similar experiments, taking similar measurements, and addressing similar questions.
I hope this is of some help, good luck. Ty
Paula Allan-Wojtas wrote:
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Or you could try Alcian blue/glutaraldehyde followed by osmium textroxide. See: Hear Research 1987;27(1):47-65 A newly identified surface coat on cochlear hair cells. Santi PA, Anderson CB.
Warning: This method is tricky because it can end up trapping water molecules in the mucous type tissues and it requires longer dehydration and polymerization times to set blocks hard enough for EM. But it looks great! (Actually, the molecules don't collapse as much in this as in ruthenium red, so the "coat" is closer to it's true thickness.) I only did some light level stuff with this myself, but I worked down the hall from Dr. Santi when this experiment was being done.
Karen Pawlowski
Sara Miller wrote: } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ } The Microscopy ListServer -- Sponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- Send Email to ListServer-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com } On-Line Help http://www.msa.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } -----------------------------------------------------------------------. } } Not sure about mucin, but have you looked into ruthenium red???? } } On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Tindall, Randy D. wrote: } } } Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 12:45:17 -0600 } } From: Tindall, Randy D. {TindallR-at-missouri.edu} } } To: "'microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com'" } {microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com} } } Subject: TEM: Mucin fixation } } } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ } } The Microscopy ListServer -- Sponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- Send Email to ListServer-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com } } On-Line Help http://www.msa.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } } -----------------------------------------------------------------------. } } } } } } Dear Listers, } } } } Does anyone know of a most excellent method of fixing the mucin layers of a } } cell culture for TEM? There is a rumor of some osmium/fluoride compound } } that I'm trying to track down (osmium perfluouro-something?), but no luck } } yet. Personal experiences, references, and sources for exotic compounds } } would all be most welcome. } } } } Thanks much. } } } } Randy } } } } } } Randy Tindall } } EM Specialist } } Electron Microscopy Core Facility } } W122 Veterinary Medicine } } University of Missouri } } Columbia, MO 65211 } } Tel: (573) 882-8304 } } Fax: (573) 884-5414 } } Email: tindallr-at-missouri.edu } } Web: http://www.biotech.missouri.edu/emc/ } } } } } } } } } } } } } } Sara E. Miller, Ph. D. } P. O. Box 3712 } Duke University Medical Center } Durham, NC 27710 } Ph: 919 684-3452 } FAX: 919 684-3265
Dear Randy, Sorry for the bulk of this response, but finding what you needed required two Google searches, both of which might be of use to you along with the one finding that was close to what I expected. I recalled a paper in which SEM was performed on Ab-stabilized, then fixed, brush border. I couldn't remember that so I went searching - not for you, for me. I found: http://www.uth.tmc.edu/apstracts/1995/lung/December/226l.html. My two Google searches were: "glycocalyx fixation"; and "glycocalyx antibody"
Good luck,
Fred Monson
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I'm usually wary when someone is fixated on a particular "magic" number, 30 or 300 or whatever. Often you are dealing with a person who doesn't understand statistics nearly as well as they think they do. Since you haven't been able to convince her of your position, maybe you can ask her to justify hers? Make her really explain (and hopefully understand) where that 30-40 target comes from. I don't necessarily *recommend* this approach, since it may lead to more conflict than collaboration!
I don't know that a particular reference like the one you seek is available. As others have pointed out, it's hard to give specific advice without more specifics of your experiments. General suggestions might include 1) showing her other "comparable" microscopy examples from the literature; 2) explaining the total cost per sample in dollars and/or person-hours; 3) promising to include standard disclaimers or a brief discussion about the statistical relevance of the microscopy portion. I suspect you have already tried most or all of these. So lastly, about the only specific example I can think of is the various asbestos analysis regulations that attempt to apply statistics to microscopy (particle counting). There is a long history of trying to establish a minimum "representative" sub-sample based on sample heterogeneity. Feel free to email me if you think any of that may be helpful. Good luck!
Matt
Matthew J. Lynn Center for Advanced Microscopy University of Miami (305)284-4736 mlynn-at-miami.edu
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I would like to suggest that the current selection of add-on video cameras or direct digital input to a PC is a better way to go. You don't describe your application or budget, but simple video can be as cheap as $300. You'll find good descriptions of some possibilities at www.microscopeworld.com, but there are MANY sources.
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May 5 to 8, 2002, Palais des Congres de Montreal, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
held in conjunction with the 93nd AOCS Annual Meeting & Expo (www.aocs.org)
webaddress at the AOCS site: http://www.aocs.org/member/division/fsff/index.htm
Food Structure and Functionality Forum Bulletin Board: http://www.aocs.org/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi
Tentative Technical Program Schedule (as of November 2nd, 2001)
Sunday, May 5th Short Course - Understanding structure-function relationships in food systems through specific localisation methods and microscopy. Contact: Marcel Paques (Paques-at-nizo.nl) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Monday, May 6th-Morning Opening of symposium - Opening remarks
Plenary Speaker and presentation of Division Achievement Award
Dairy Applications Session. Chairs: Mark Auty, Dairy Products Research Centre, TEAGASC, Ireland (mauty-at-moorepark.teagasc.ie ) and Harjinder Singh, Massey University, NZ (H.Singh-at-massey.ac.nz)
Some Observations of a Microscopist, Author, and Reviewer on Structural Studies of Milk Products. M. Kalab, Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada, Canada
Effect of Emulsifiers and Processing Conditions on Microstructure of Milk Fat/Sunflower Oil Blends. S. Martini1, M. Cerdeira1, C. Puppo1, R.W. Hartel2, and M.L. Herrera1,3, 1CIDCA, UNLP, CONICET, Argentina; 1University of Wisconsin-Madison, USA; 3University of Buenos Aires, Argentina
Texturization of Dairy-Based Spreads. Y. Shi, B. Liang, and R.W. Hartel, University of Wisconsin-Madison, USA
Localization of Whey and Casein in Cheeses Using Microscopy and Immunochemistry Techniques. Y. Wang and D. Pechak, Kraft Foods, U.S.A
Manufacturing Yoghurt Structures with a Predicted Consumer Preference. M Langton and A. Astrom, SIK, Sweden
Dynamic Confocal Imaging of Tension and Fracture in Composite Food Materials. D.P Ferdinando1, K.P Plucknett2, and V. Normand3, 1Unilever Research, UK; 2DERA, UK; 3Firmenich SA, Switzerland
TBA - Topic: Dairy powders/caramels. C. Attapattu, University of Wisconsin, USA
Monday, May 6th - Afternoon Colloidal and Interfacial Sciences Session. Chairs: Marcel Paques (Paques-at-nizo.nl ) and David Pechak (Dpechak-at-kraft.com)
Protein Polysaccharide Interactions. C.G. De Kruif, NIZO Food Research, Netherlands (keynote speaker)
To Be Announced. B. Campbell, Kraft Foods, USA
Structure in Heat Treated Low_Fat Emulsions. R. Ofstad and V. Hoest, MATFORSK, Norway
Fatty Acid Salts-Induced Gels of Food Proteins: Their Rheological Properties and Structural Changes of the Proteins During Gelation. N. Yuno-Ohta, Nihon University, Japan
Wheat Gluten Proteins. A.S. Tatham, IACR Long Ashton research Station, United Kingdom
Interfacial Composition and Stability of Oil in Water Emulsion formed with Mixtures of Milk Proteins and Polysaccharides. H. Singh and Y. Hemar, Institute of Food, Nutrition and Human Health, Massey University, NZ
Dedicated Poster Session
Division Board Meeting -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tuesday, May 7th - Morning Agricultural Applications of Microscopy and Imaging Session/ joint with Feed Microscopy Division. Topic: Food Contamination
contacts: Mark Auty, Dairy Products Research Centre, TEAGASC (mauty-at-moorepark.teagasc.ie ) and Marge McCutcheon, West Virginia Department of Agriculture, USA (Feed Microscopy Division)
Forensic tampering. F. Platek, FDA (keynote speaker)
Contaminants in Food Processing. D. Kittleson, Pillsbury
How to approach contaminant identification. M. Auty, Dairy Products Research Centre
Growth promoters. P. Klink, South Africa
Identification of plant material. D.F. Wood, USDA
To Be Announced. J. Makowski
Quanitation of Total Fat and Fat Quality in Cheese and Dairy Products Using Membrane Separation Technology. V.C. Gordon, Safety Associates, Inc., USA
Additonal speakers to be announced.
Division Luncheon and round table (expert) discussion. Topic to be announced
Tuesday, May 7th - Afternoon Microbiology and Food Session Chairpersons: Judy Arnold and Ida Yates, USDA, ARS, Russell Research Center, USA
Prevention of Bacterial Fouling on Food Equipment Surfaces. J.W. Arnold, USDA, ARS, Russell Research Center, USA
Probiotics and Their Use in Food Animal Production. R. Droleskey, USDA, ARS, SPARC, USA
The Effect of High Pressure Steriliztion on Listeria Inoculated Seafood. K.R.S. Schneider and M.V.W. Wood, University of Florida, USA
Food Microstructure Investigations by Atomic Force Microscopy. J. Thornton, Digital Instruments/Veeco Metrology Group, USA
Controlling Growth of the Toxigenic Fungus, Fusarium Verticillioides. I. Yates and J. Arnold, Russell Research Center, ARS, USDA, USA
Division Members Meeting (immediately following the afternoon session) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wednesday, May 8th- Morning Ingredients and Food Processing Session- Chairpersons: Diana Kittleson, Pillsbury Co, TPC Labs, USA; and Bernhard Tauscher, Federal Research Center for Nutrition, Germany
Non-Invasive Quality Determination of Fruit and Vegetables: Application of a Multi-Wavelength NIR-Diode Laser Array. B. Tauscher, Federal Research Center for Nutrition, Germany
Characterisation of the Application of Novel Oil Structurants. E. Floeter, F. Gandolfo, and W. Hogervorst, Unilever Research Vlaardingen, The Netherlands
High Pressure Processing. E. Ting and E. Raghubeer, Flow International, USA
Microstructure of Rice Starch Isolates. D.F. Wood1, A.M. Ibanez_Carranza2, and C.F. Shoemaker2, 1USDA, ARS, WRRC, USA; 2University of California, USA
To Be Announced. F. Escher, B. Conde-Petit, ETH, Switzerland
To Be Announced. M. Michel, Nestec Ltd., Nestle Research Center, Switzerland
To Be Announced. M. Salmenkallio-Marttila , VTT Biotechnology, Finland
Wednesday, May 8th - Afternoon New Methods and Techniques for Food Structure and Functionality Analysis Session Chairpersons: Kathy Groves, Leatherhead Food Research Association, England; and Maud Langton, SIK, Sweden
Quantifying Microstructures through Image Analysis. G.M.P. van Kempen1, M. van Ginkel2, C.L. Luengo Hendriks2, L.J. van Vliet2, and S. Singleton3, 1Unilever Research Vlaardingen, Netherlands; 2Delft University of Technology, The Netherlands; 3Unilever Research Colworth House, Great Britain
Cryo-TEM of Biopolymers in Comparision with Other TEM-techniques. M. Langton, A. Altskar, and A.-M Hermansson, SIK, Sweden
Freeze-substitution and low temperature embedding of dairy products for electron microscopy. A.K. Smith and H.D. Goff, Department of Food Science, University of Guelph, Canada
Recent Advances in our Understanding of the Relationship Between Crystallization Behavior, Microstructure and Rheological Properties of Fat Crystal Networks. A. Marangoni, University of Guelph, Canada
Spectroscopic Prediction of Rheological Properties in Grains. F. Meadows and F. Barton USDA, ARS, QARU, USA
Staining Techniques for Detection of Components in Fish Muscle. K. Hanneson Eggen and G. Enersen, Matforsk, Norway
Closure of Symposium ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posters
Relationships between Microstructure and Rheological Properties of Model Lipid Systems. B. Liang, Y. Shi, and R.W., Hartel Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison, USA
Minor Biomolecules from the Olive Drupe to Olive Oil: The Technology and the Well-being Effects. N. Uccella, CIRASAIA-Mediterranean Agrifood Research Centre, Calabria University, Italy
Formation and Physical Properties of ?-Fat Gel. I: Macroscopic and Microscopic Observations. K. Higaki1, Y. Sasakura1, I. Hachiya1, and K. Sato2, 1Meiji Seika Kaisha Ltd., Japan; 2Faculty of Applied Biological Science, Hiroshima University, Japan
Formation and Physical Properties of ?-Fat Gel. Ii: In situ Observation of Gel-Formation Processes. K. Higaki1, Y. Sasakura1, I. Hachiya1, S. Ueno2, and K. Sato2, 1Meiji Seika Kaisha Ltd., Japan; 2Faculty of Applied Biological Science, Hiroshima University, Japan
Formation and Physical Properties of ?-Fat Gel. III: Rheological Properties. K. Higaki1, T. Koyano1, I. Hachiya1, and K. Sato2, 1Meiji Seika Kaisha Ltd., Japan; 2Faculty of Applied Biological Science, Hiroshima University, Japan
Formation and Physical Properties of ?-Fat Gel. IV: Why and How? K. Sato1, K. Higaki2, T. Koyano2, and I. Hachiya2, 1Faculty of Applied Biological Science, Hiroshima University, Japan; 2Meiji Seika Kaisha Ltd., Japan
} Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 07:40:47 -0800 } To: "Paula Allan-Wojtas" {AllanWojtasP-at-EM.AGR.CA} } From: Gary Gaugler {gary-at-gaugler.com} } Subject: Re: SEM - how many samples are enough? } } Coming from a semiconductor background, I have a } somewhat different take on this topic. } } In evaluating the quality of IC wafer runs, there are } two methods I use. One way is to check each wafer } while the other is to check only one wafer. Either } way, only four die off of the wafer are examined via } SEM. This is in accordance with MIL-STD-883 Method } 2018, which can be found at: } } http://www.dscc.dla.mil/Downloads/MilSpec/Docs/MIL-STD-883/std883_2018.pdf } } In particular, look at paragraph 3.1.1 and Figure 2018-4. } } This area discusses die sampling procedures for wafer lots. } Considering that one wafer may contain upwards of 5,000 die } (depending on wafer size and die size), examination of } all die, or even a large number of die is unrealistic. The issue } is whether the sample is representative of the rest of the wafers } and the die therein. There are indeed strange things that can } and do happen to wafers as they are processed such that } the results of examining a randomly-pulled wafer may not } be correct about the whole wafer lot--or some of the other } wafers in the lot. } } If there is a reasonable expectation of repeatability from } wafer-to-wafer, then examination of one wafer and the } prescribed number of die will pass or fail the whole wafer } lot. perhaps this same reasoning might apply to your } situation? I certainly don't SEM 40,000 die! There are } in-process control wafers which are examined during } the course of fabrication. Failure at any of these steps } fails the whole wafer. But the small sample at the end } of fabrication is a pas/fail for the whole wafer lot. } } If you were to be examining E. coli for example and } imaged say ten individuals, and all were rod-shaped. } How many more specimens would you have to image } to find one that was round? The issue seems to me } to be more of the characteristics of the specimens } being examined. 100% coverage will always be } someone's desired approach. But of course, this } is not practical nor realistic for most situations. Thus, } the sampling criteria is applied. Which one is } applied is the key issue. How much or how many } is sufficient to draw a conclusion? } } gary g. } } } At 06:41 AM 11/1/2001, you wrote: } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ } } The Microscopy ListServer -- Sponsor: The Microscopy Society of America
We did a lot of freeze substitutions of plant leaf tissues, but with fixatives. However, I do believe the principle would be the same though without fixatives you would not clearly see the ultrastructure of the cells. Following are some references you might like to check.
Xu and Mendgen (1994) Planta 195:282 Xu and Mendgen (1997) MPMI 10:87
and some publications in Dr. K. Mendgen's lab.
Hope it helps.
Haixin Xu (Ph D)
Biological Sicences University od Maryland Baltimore County 1000 Hilltop Circle Baltimore, MD 21250
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Christopher Ogomo wrote:
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Thanks to all the generous folks who sent me their microspherule protocols - The info is most appreciated! Dee
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I think this is a very interesting thread. I agree with most of the other comments contributed. It is the sort of problem that is not always clear but always important. In certain situations there are clear quantitative ways to arrive at the number of samples (measurements) required for a given confidence interval (key term), of say 95%, applied to a t-distribution assumption (usually). This type of formula can be plucked directly from statistical texts and there are even nifty little sample size calculators on the web. But, it is not always obvious how to apply that to a given measurement, and as others have said, we don't know exactly what you are trying to quantify. Within a given type of measurement, there are also ways to establish the precision of a given measurement method and then knowing that value, apply it to a single independent measurement acquired under conditions your accuracy/precision estimate was valid. There are very commonly scenarios where your final calculation also has errors that are cumulative and generally these add in quadrature. So, say you measure something and then calculate a result that involves ratios of this intensity or that, and/or multiplication of one length with another to get your final answer. Errors associated with division, multiplication and exponents are also known. In related schemes, say your calculation involves some intensity measurement and you know your the level of "noise" in that intensity measurement with a given RMS level, then that error may, in the most simple approximation, be given as 3X the rms and however that may be related to your final results would possibly be part of the quadrature-based calculation of your total error. I guess my point is there should be a way to estimate error within a given confidence interval in a single measurement if you know what the errors involved in the fundamental measurement, be it intensity, distance, etc. But, you need to break down that calculation and pick out the individual errors to determine the final error. Accuracy, versus precision, is a distinction I am sure you can appreciate.
I should say, I am definitely not a statistical expert but like you I have had to deal with this situation on several occaisons, as I am sure others have. Let's face it, it is also more work to generate error estimates for everything we do. Given the option we'd all like to plot and quantify with error bars and confidence limits, it is just not always clear how to "get there from here". My overall opinion is it is quite likely you have a valuable contribution and you need to determine some way to express qualitatively the limit in the interpretable information from the image (assuming it is an image) or quantitatively estimate that will satisfy your collegues. Good luck and please share any enlightment you might find as a results of this quest!
Regards, Ed Principe
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Hi listers, I am looking for an ER specific fluorophore that can be excited using visible wavelength lasers. The cells that this would be used in are cultured fibroblasts. If possible, either the excitation or emission (one or the other, it needn't be both) would be different from those of Cy3 and Cy5. If anyone knows of any good kits available for this, I would greatly appreciate it (Mol. probes has a kit, but it requires UV excitation, a laser that I unfortunately do not have).
Thanks in advance, Russell -- Russell McConnell Confocal Imaging Facility Technician Department of Neuroscience Tufts University School of Medicine M&V Building room #137 136 Harrison Ave. Boston, MA 02111 Tel. (617) 636-3795
I am forwarding the email from van Heel (sent to 3dem). It is a good summary of scheduling/booking softwares. I personally like iCal (http://www.brownbearsw.com/). Hope it'll help--Zhaojie Zhang
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Paula writes ...
} ... I have a very large } collection of top quality micrographs from these projects which I } would like to publish. The microscopy samples have been selected } and photographed within the experimental design which has been } set out for each project, so we are pretty sure they are } representative of what's there. } } One collaborator on the team is hesitant (to the point of being } resistant) about my publishing any of the microscopy as part of } any of the publications put together by the team because we have } not looked at 30-40 samples of each of the many experimental } treatments ( we have done 4 samples of each treatment) . The } other researchers on the team have looked at between 30 and 40 } samples per treatment. This one collaborator says that she has no } confidence in the microscopy results because "the statistics just } aren't there". } ...
As others have implied ... how many samples depends on the variation you see. If you had 3 samples and absolutely no variation, you may be justified in stopping there and drawing a conclusion ... however, this is generally never the case. Statistical tools, such as the "chi-square distribution", are sometimes used for drawing conclusions from a small set, but even generalized chi-square formulas don't begin to yield meaningful conclusions unless the # of samples is ~30. This "rule-of-thumb" is probably at the root of your colleagues criticisms ... as if we remembered anything from "statistics 101".
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Paula writes ... "I have a very large collection of top quality micrographs from these projects which I would like to publish. The microscopy samples have been selected and photographed within the experimental design which has been set out for each project, so we are pretty sure they are representative of what's there.
One collaborator on the team is hesitant (to the point of being resistant) about my publishing any of the microscopy as part of any of the publications put together by the team because we have not looked at 30-40 samples of each of the many experimental treatments ( we have done 4 samples of each treatment). The other researchers on the team have looked at between 30 and 40 samples per treatment. This one collaborator says that she has no confidence in the microscopy results because "the statistics just aren't there". "
} From Paul Webster: I am getting into this subject a little late so forgive me if I repeat something that has already been said.
The answer to the question, as posted by Michael S. a little earlier, is "... how many samples depends on the variation you see." This is exactly the solution to the problem. However, to get to a meaningful answer requires us to know what is the variation within the population. This may take a little more experimental planning. This point has been taken up in the rest of Michaels answer and also in previous replies concerning the examination of homogeneous materials samples. Homogeneous sample populations will require less sampling that heterogeneous populations.
To get a "representative" estimate of normal human blood temperature should be pretty easy as we all hover around the same temperature. Of course, a bias will be introduced if we include hospital patients in our sample. This is only a bias if we want an estimate for healthy individuals.
Conversly, obtaining an estimate for the mean height of a population will depend on who is being measured and their location. There will be many different, and correct answers for this one. Of course, the limitations of the estimation should be included with the final estimate (e.g. estimated mean height of adult males, age 35, attending a Yankees baseball game). Hwo many males should be measured so that we obtain a meaningful result? This will depend on the total population, their habits, and the sampling protocol applied. Selecting males going to the game who are seen coming out of "Big and Tall" stores may not be a representative sample!
Representative images in microscopy, selected to be "representative" are actually biased samples in that they have been selected by the operator. To get a truly "representative" result implies that unbiased estimators must be applied to the samples under investigation. An unbiased estimation should then be in the form of a quantitative result and not a "representative" image.
There are many powerful, efficient and easily applied protocols available for estimating number, length, surface area and volume. However, to be applied correctly, they must be applied to truly representative samples of the population. To obtain this unbiased sample requires the application of unbiased sample collection.
I saw in an earlier posting the cautious warning not to confuse accuracy with precision. This is an important warning. It is easy to be precise and still get the wrong answer. Imagine, for example, the result of a target practice using a gun with crooked sights but in the hands of an exceptional marksman. The holes will probably all be clustered together. The bias due to the crooked sight may cause the holes to be way of center. However, in the hands of a novice, the gun will fire off-target, but the operator may possibly be so inaccurate that a stray shot will hit the bulls-eye.
In the words of the sterologists "do more - less well". In biology, most of the variation occurs at the level of the cell or the animal. There will be less variation between samples taken from the same animal or cell population. It is far more reliable to measure small samples from more animals or cells than to take lots of images from one sample.
There are many unbiased sampling protocols available to use. However, most of them are designed to be applied to thin sectioning. It is possible that they can be adapted for use in the SEM. Estimating number and particle size should be possible using ramdom fields.
To obtain more information on these protocols I suggest looking up papers by John Lucocq and Terry Mayhew, who have both written very readable reviews of the challenges of random sampling. In particular, look for descriptions of Systematic Random Sampling. You will also see references to uniform isotropic sampling to eliminate bias.
You may come to the conclusion that taking one or two random images from your 30-40 samples, and then estimating the paramenters of interest from them is the way to go.
Microscopy has become a powerfully quantitiative branch of science. As such it is possible to express the qualitative results we see every day in unambiguous ways. We should make use of these tools to remove the fuel for argument.
In setting up the monthly archives for October of 2001 I got moderatley curious about the number of Email messages/ deliveries have run through the system running out of my home/office these past 8 years (Oct 1, 1993 was the Listserver's start date).
According to my extremely precise calculations ;-) the 100 Millionth Email message was delivered to a Microscopy Listserver subscriber sometime this year.
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Actually Nestor, by my extremely precise calculations, someone should buy you your 100,000,000th beer about MSA time next year...something to look forward to in Quebec City!
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for symmetry I think Arthur Day should be the one to buy Nestor his 100,000,000th beer, and the 17th Australian Conference on Electron Microscopy in Adelaide this coming February would be the perfect place. Adelaide is quite warm that time of year , perfect beer drinking conditions. Why don't all you listservers come and join us. Cheers,
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Does anybody have the information about the using possibility of image recording systems (like PIXsysTEM from JEOL or the same from Fuji) and CCD cameras (for example from Gatan or another companies) in 1,000 kV TEM?
Thank you in advance, Victor Sidorenko, ANTRON Co., Ltd., scientific service, Moscow, Russia.
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I'd like to add a suggestion to the one's by Matt listed below:
} } I'm usually wary when someone is fixated on a particular } "magic" number, 30 or 300 or whatever. Often you are } dealing with a person who doesn't understand statistics } nearly as well as they think they do. Since you haven't } been able to convince her of your position, maybe you can } ask her to justify hers? Make her really explain (and } hopefully understand) where that 30-40 target comes from. } I don't necessarily *recommend* this approach, since it } may lead to more conflict than collaboration!... } } Matt
} } } } My addition; If this person is so hung up on doing 30-40 } } } } samples, peerhaps you can give him'her instructions n sample prep } } } } and then tell him'her that s/he should feel free to run up all } } } } the samples on his/her time and that you would then gladly 'scope } } } } them. I have found that when people learn by personal } } } } experience how long it takes to do even a "standard' TEM } } } } embedding they suddenly readjust their "n" requirement to a more } } } } realistic goal.
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I'll forward this to the Classic Computer Collector's mailing list. Someone there certainly will have a lead on some of these.
- John
At 10:18 AM 11/5/01 -0700, Bob Roberts wrote: } A customer of mine has a Kevex Delta II analyzer (circa 1989) equipped with the 8 inch/10 Mb Bernoulli disk drives. He would like to continue using this media for the time being but is unable to locate any of these disks for data storage. Thermo Noran is apparently unable to upgrade his drives to something more current. } } If anyone has these disks laying around, and would like to sell them, please contact me off-line. Thank you. } } Bob Roberts } EM Lab Services, Inc. } 2409 S. Rural Rd Suite C } Tempe, Arizona 85282 } 480.967.3946 } "Home of the 2001 World Series Champion Arizona Diamondbacks"
----- Original Message ----- } From: "Leona Cohen-Gould" {lcgould-at-med.cornell.edu} To: {mlynn-at-miami.edu} ; {microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com} } } } } Hi Paula, } } } I'd like to add a suggestion to the one's by Matt listed below: } } } } } I'm usually wary when someone is fixated on a particular } } "magic" number, 30 or 300 or whatever. Often you are } } dealing with a person who doesn't understand statistics } } nearly as well as they think they do. Since you haven't } } been able to convince her of your position, maybe you can } } ask her to justify hers? Make her really explain (and } } hopefully understand) where that 30-40 target comes from. } } I don't necessarily *recommend* this approach, since it } } may lead to more conflict than collaboration!... } } } } Matt } } Have someone that really understands statistics look at the paper. There is no magic number it all depends on the varibility of the data and what you are saying about the data.
I doesn't sound like either of you can make a strong case for your position. At least not one that convinces the other.
Good luck Gordon
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----- Original Message ----- } From: "John Foust" {jfoust-at-threedee.com} To: "Bob Roberts" {bobrobs-at-earthlink.net} ; {Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com} Cc: {classiccmp-at-classiccmp.org} Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 7:49 PM
I might be willing to share some of my 10 MB Bernoulli cartridges. Since I'll be holding onto some of the drives, I expect I'll not let them all go.
I do have 20 MB cartridges and drives as well, and those drives read the 10 MB media, yet write only the 20's. At one time it was convenient to put a bernoulli box at each of several clients' locations in order simply to move the cartridges along with me, yet be able to accomplish equivalent useful work at home, which has always been my primary work location.
regards,
Dick
----- Original Message ----- } From: "John Foust" {jfoust-at-threedee.com} To: "Bob Roberts" {bobrobs-at-earthlink.net} ; {Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com} Cc: {classiccmp-at-classiccmp.org} Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 7:49 PM
Maybe..
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It would be easier to send Nestor to where the beer is. Less postage that way...
} } I say we all mail Nester one beer, something regional or unique. Just } picture the scene :-) } } } -Ed
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Tell you what - If all the List subscribers come here I can promise the Hawaii Visitors Bureau will buy you ALL a beer! And 2,562 for Nestor ...
Mahalo nui loa, Nestor!
Tina
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Ok Sally I admit that last message was a bit ambiguous. I'll blame the Melbourne Cup BBQ for that (beer). So how do I weasel out of it?
Nestor wrote: "Now if I only had a beer for each of those emails, I'd be set for life."
If nature abhors a vacuum/empty stomach, and if there is no such thing as one beer, then each of us may have to contribute up to 100,000,000 beers each -- one per message. That's up to 100,000,000 times 2562. So, therefore, it would be easier to send Nestor to each exotic location to sample the beer in person?
Bit of an extrapolation I suppose.
If anybody needs some tips for their next grant proposal.... ;-(
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I saw a hand full of this media that VCF East...Did they get sold? I'm not sure who the seller was...maybe Tom Owad? -Chandra
-----Original Message----- } From: owner-classiccmp-at-classiccmp.org [mailto:owner-classiccmp-at-classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of John Foust Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 9:50 PM To: Bob Roberts; Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com Cc: classiccmp-at-classiccmp.org
Having mis-spent my youth at Lehigh University, I suggest we all HAVE a beer FOR Nestor!
Fred Monson
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Does anyone know what type of microscope the JEOL 100 CX TEMSCAN is/was? I've come across a reference to it in a 1982 paper by Eddy and Koehler and need to describe the SEM imaging technology for something I'm writing.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Best,
Angela
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I think someone had once posted a URL to a website with an HTML presentation that moved the observer from the sub-atomic viewing level to one outside of our solar system using metric increments. Could someone please send me that URL again?
I still say it would be easier to have a sampling of beer, and, Oh, alright, tell Nestor how good it (OR THEY!!!!) WAS!!!!
Fred Monson I'm heading out now to start!!! See all of you who are down-time from me, later!!! } ---------- } From: Arthur Day } Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2001 2:43 AM } To: Sally Stowe } Cc: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com; Edward_Principe-at-amat.com } Subject: Re: Beer fund } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ } The Microscopy ListServer -- Sponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- Send Email to ListServer-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com } On-Line Help http://www.msa.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } -----------------------------------------------------------------------. } } } Ok Sally I admit that last message was a bit ambiguous. I'll blame } the Melbourne Cup BBQ for that (beer). So how do I weasel out of it? } } Nestor wrote: "Now if I only had a beer for each of those emails, } I'd be set for life." } } If nature abhors a vacuum/empty stomach, and if there is no such } thing as one beer, then each of us may have to contribute up to } 100,000,000 beers each -- one per message. That's up to 100,000,000 } times 2562. So, therefore, it would be easier to send Nestor to each } exotic location to sample the beer in person? } } Bit of an extrapolation I suppose. } } If anybody needs some tips for their next grant proposal.... ;-( } } } } Maybe.. } } } } } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ } } The Microscopy ListServer -- Sponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- Send Email to ListServer-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com } } On-Line Help http://www.msa.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } } -----------------------------------------------------------------------. } } } } } } It would be easier to send Nestor to where the beer is. Less postage } } that way... } } } } } } } } I say we all mail Nester one beer, something regional or unique. Just } } } picture the scene :-) } } } } } } } } } -Ed } } }
Comments to comments: } } I'm usually wary when someone is fixated on a particular } "magic" number, 30 or 300 or whatever. Often you are } dealing with a person who doesn't understand statistics } nearly as well as they think they do. Since you haven't } been able to convince her of your position, maybe you can } ask her to justify hers? Make her really explain (and } hopefully understand) where that 30-40 target comes from. } I don't necessarily *recommend* this approach, since it } may lead to more conflict than collaboration!... } } Matt
} } } } My addition; If this person is so hung up on doing 30-40 } } } } samples, peerhaps you can give him'her instructions n sample prep } } } } and then tell him'her that s/he should feel free to run up all } } } } the samples on his/her time and that you would then gladly 'scope } } } } them. I have found that when people learn by personal } } } } experience how long it takes to do even a "standard' TEM } } } } embedding they suddenly readjust their "n" requirement to a more } } } } realistic goal. Lee
Reply: Unfortunately (or fortunately), the actual sample number is not arrived at in an arbitrary manner, it is dictated by the nature of the specimen under study.
Nobody makes up these numbers, but if you look at the article by John Lucocq, Trends in Cell Biology 1993 Unbiased 3-D quantitation of ultrastructure in cell biology 3:354-358, he suggests using 3-5 experiments/animals/cultures, only 1 or more blocks/dishes, one or more sections but 10-40 micrographs and between 100-200 probe counts. I am pretty sure this is a common sampling scheme for stereologists.
Paraphrasing slightly form this manuscript, Sampling is "..an inherent part of any quantitative electron micrscopy study since only a portion of all the possible blocks, sections and micrographs are analyzed. It is essential therefore that at each level in a sampling scheme items are selected in a way that gives all parts of the specimen the same chance of being included."
The actual amount of sampling that is performed will be directly related to the variance occurring within the population. Samples with low variance will require a lower sample number to give you an answer with an error of 5% or less. High variance between individual samples will require more sampling to be performed.
These are all experimental design considerations that have to be applied much before all the clever statistical analysis is performed. Working out probabilities on poorly sampled data is not very useful.
It can be said that proper sampling techniques should also be applied to morphological data too. Where would that put all those text-book images?
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I'm a bit of a novice with antibody staining, but so are my colleagues and so they've all got conflicting and inconsistent results from trying the Alkaline Phosphatase staining.
We're trying to stain sea urchin larvae whole-mounts with the 2 antibody-alkaline phosphatase system(larvae are formalin fixed and rehydrated from 70% EtOH cold storage). Our AkPh substrate is a few months old and has a small amount of blackish precipitate at the bottom--is this OK? My colleagues have had different results with using the substrate undiluted on the animals vs. diluted in some small amount of PBS. I notice that with the latter, there is a slight whitish precipitate that occurs--is this due to the pH differential between the AkPh substrate(ph 10 or more) and PBS(7.4)? What are the ideal staining conditions for this to work? Please note--I'm getting problems with the preliminary staining where I know I'm supposed to get endogenous gut AkPh staining with just substrate and nothing else, but I'm getting almost imperceptible staining.
All suggestions and admonishments will be taken into consideration. Thanks in advance.
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There's a high school teacher in Hull, Massachusetts with 20 or so microscopes that need cleaning and (hopefully minor) repair. She's willing to work on them herself, but doesn't know how to begin. Is there a lister who can visit and help her get started? If so please contact me.
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on 11/4/01 4:39 PM, Victor Sidorenko at antron-at-space.ru wrote:
} } Does anybody have the information about the using possibility of } image recording systems (like PIXsysTEM from JEOL or the } same from Fuji) and CCD cameras (for example from Gatan or } another companies) in 1,000 kV TEM? } Dear Victor, A few years ago (when the 1250 kV scope had been installed at Stutgart, but I don't remember the exact year) there was a poster at MSA which gave the quantum efficiency for image plates as a function of voltage up to 1250 kV. Since I was interested in quantitating ED data at 1200 kV, and since I had heard great things about IPs--single-electron sensitivity, linearity for a range which would include all the expected intensities in an ED pattern, etc.--I remember the graph well. The QE for somewhat more than 100 kV was 100% (giving the required sensitivity), but it dropped off at intermediate voltages--I don't remember whether it was still 100% at 200 kV, but definitely lower at 400 kV--and was only ~25% at 1000+ kV. I don't know what improvements may have been made; a thicker active layer will give more sensitivity, but lower spatial resolution (there is no free lunch). The manufacturers of the plates would be able to tell you whether they can sell you what you would need. Good luck. Yours, Bill Tivol
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The JEOL 100CX TEMSCAN is a 100kV transmission electron microscope (TEM) with the attachment for scanning imaging device (ASID) that provides scanning electron microscope (SEM) facilities (the SCAN part of TEMSCAN). It could image with secondary electrons (SE) or backscattered electrons (BSE) in a standard SEM mode or use brightfield or darkfield detectors for scanning transmitted electron microscopy (STEM). With an energy dispersive x-ray (EDX) specrometer fitted it could also provide chemical analysis, x-ray maps and line scans.
Undoubtably there are still some out there being used and their users could give you more information but your local JEOL office could also give you any information you want (ask for an engineer over 40). If you don't know the local JEOL office look on the web, although they maybe rushing out to you now in case you want to buy something!!!
Regards, Ron
On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 14:00:30 -0500 (EST) Angela Klaus {avklaus-at-amnh.org} wrote:
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The 100CX TEMSCAN is a JEOL 100kV TEM fitted with a scanning attachment which allows imaging by way of "in lens" surface studies (SEM) in addition to transmitted electron scanning (STEM). The microscope was a second generation 100C hence the X.
The instrument was designed by Yanaka and Shirota the scanning system interface was made by Koike (the man who invented the in lens SEM system). Koike went on to design the ISI DS130 SEM and Yanaka and Shirota the ISI 002B TEM.
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The 100CX TEMSCAN is a JEOL 100kV TEM fitted with a scanning attachment which allows imaging by way of "in lens" surface studies (SEM) in addition to transmitted electron scanning (STEM). The microscope was a second generation 100C hence the X.
The instrument was designed by Yanaka and Shirota the scanning system interface was made by Koike (the man who invented the in lens SEM system). Koike went on to design the ISI DS130 SEM and Yanaka and Shirota the ISI 002B TEM.
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Angela Klaus wrote: Does anyone know what type of microscope the JEOL 100 CX TEMSCAN is/was?
If we're talking about the same instrument, the JEOL 100 CX that I spent years on was a TEM (100 kV with a booster switch to 120 kV accelerating voltage). Mine had the SAED (selected area electron diffraction) accessory and Scanning EM functions.
Coincidentally, I know where just such an instrument is available for the cost of tear down and shipping to any federal institution OR an institution with an active NSF grant using electron microscopy. It includes a full-sized, pneumatic anti-vibration table, chiller, compressor, film carriers, etc.
Contact me off-line if interested and I'll see if it's still available.
S. Frank Platek Forensic Chemistry Center U.S. Food and Drug Administration 6751 Steger Drive Cincinnati, OH 45237-3097 (513) 679-2700 X254 (513) 679-2761 FAX fplatek-at-ora.fda.gov
We are interested in doing EELS work with a LaB6 filament TEM. Can anyone tell us how best is the energy resolution with this type of filament?
Thanks
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That would be "Powers of 10", by Eames. I know it as a video, book, and flip book (see the MICRO bibliography, URL below), but not as a website. Will you please post the URL on the list when you get it?
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Absolutely correct John! And, since you know, I'll ask.
Which physicist is most responsible for "nucular" physics [did I spell it right???], and which Computer Scientist for "data is"?
I know the biologists are responsible for "dIsection"!
Blessings upon the lexicographers who say, "Cut it any way you want! DIsect it with a cleaver or DISsect it with fine forceps. Your choice, whether you know the difference or not!"
As Grandfather used to say when Grandmother was near, "Oh! For the love of words!!!"
Fred Monson, who hath some affection for the silly!
P.S. By the way, Nestor, I stopped on the way home last evening, tried a few different brands to be found in Eastern Pennsylvania, just Northwest of Philadelphia, and most were worth the try. Every one went down as a toast to your good works, and that was good too! So, you are taken care of here, and I hope you appreciate the effort on your behalf. FCM
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Does anyone know a recipe for chemically etching GaN and/or InN? The material is already thinned and ready for TEM, we just want a final surface etching to enhance dislocation imaging.
Thanks,
Mick
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} ---------- } From: Angela Klaus } Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2001 2:00 PM } To: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com } Subject: Info needed: JEOL 100 CX TEMSCAN } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ } The Microscopy ListServer -- Sponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- Send Email to ListServer-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com } On-Line Help http://www.msa.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } -----------------------------------------------------------------------. } } } Hi all... } } Does anyone know what type of microscope the JEOL 100 CX TEMSCAN is/was? } I've come across a reference to it in a 1982 paper by Eddy and Koehler and } need to describe the SEM imaging technology for something I'm writing. } } Thanks in advance for any help. } } Best, } } Angela } } Angela V. Klaus } } Director, Core Imaging Facility } American Museum of Natural History } Central Park West at 79th Street } New York, NY 10024 USA } } Email: avklaus-at-amnh.org } Tel: 212-769-5977 } } }
} -----Original Message----- } From: Sy Griffey } Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 11:48 AM } To: Jacqueline D. Garfield } Subject: Processing of tendon samples } } } } If anyone has some experience processing human tendon samples for EM } and/or histology we would appreciate your help. } } Problem: We have begun processing human tendon samples for both EM and } standard histology but are having trouble getting good sections and tissue } quality. The samples for histology can be as thick as 5-8 mm. } } For the EM samples we have only done a freeze-substitution protocol } to date but the tissue was extremely hard before embedding and even thick } sectioning was a challenge. We anticipate similar problems when doing } standard EM processing based on experience with histology processing thus } far........The tissue in the histology sections appears cracked, } exhibiting separation within the fibrous bundles of the tendon when viewed } in X-sxn. The samples were actually somewhat flexible just prior to } embedding. All processing steps (graded alcohol, clearing solution and } paraffin) have been done at ambient temperature and pressure. The } incubation times, in general, have been in the 45-60 min. range. We are } thinking about increasing the incubation times and perhaps doing some } vacuum infiltration but would welcome any suggestions. } } Thank you! } } Jackie Garfield and Sy Griffey } } Lifecell Corporation } One Millennium Way } Branchburg, NJ 08876 USA } (908) 947-1182 (Jackie) } (908) 947-1085 (Fax) } jgarfield-at-lifecell.com
Thank you for the many replies regarding the problem of firmly-attached carbon.
It appears that in removing the metal coating left on the glass surface in the bell jar's previous life in a physics lab, the aqua regia that I ended up using activated the glass surface, perhaps by producing a micro-roughness. So the first few uses produced a firmly-attached carbon coating.
I was able to remove the carbon with a mildly-abrasive ("without harsh scratching") household cleaner, plus lots of rubbing.
I then wiped the surface with a rag wetted with kerosine, then with a clean dry rag. This left sufficient kerosine to prevent a good vacuum being obtained, so I sprayed it with a household general-purpose multi-solvent cleaner ("Ajax Spray 'n' Wipe), and wiped that off with a clean dry rag.
This has left the surface sufficiently deactivated so that I can remove new carbon simply by spraying with Spray 'n' Wipe and wiping.
cheers
rtch
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A graduate student in microbiology has just finished her first course in electron microscopy, and she informs her advisor that she wants to study mitochondrial structure and function in several related strains of yeast, for one of which she fortuitously has electron micrographs of mitochondrial profiles that are, she has been told, quite publishable.
Her advisor suggests that she start by comparing 3-4 strains with respect to number of mitochondria per cell and total mitochondrial cristal area under identical conditions of culture.
The student happily responds that she already has micrographs for regularly sampled sections from serial sections she learned to make of the strain she used in her EM course. She returns the next week with estimates of cristal area and numbers of mitochondria per cell based on morphometric analysis of those regularly sampled sections.
If the cell is 12-25um in length (haploid and diploid) and always between 3-5um in diameter, and if the mitochondrial profiles are in the range of 1-2um (circular and ovoid, and sometimes or often branched), what should the sampling criteria be for cells that are serially sectioned with sections approximately 90nm in thickness?
How could one derive the same, but apparently much more statistically satisfactory, data from the 40+ cell profiles per section of cells randomly oriented and not necessarily (or importantly) sectioned or analyzed completely.
All who take on this task should know there is an extremely important, and possibly significant, hint that can be observed at: http://www.msg.ucsf.edu/sedat/marsh/mito.html. I sometimes think it is well to know of such hints (or at least to be aware of their possibility) before attempting a task. Assumptions are almost always incorrect unless rigorously defined and applied, and very often difficult to prove as such or to isolate in generating an experimental design without flaws.
Knowing that reality often gets in the way of statistics, and vice versa, I am
Yours most respectfully, because I wrestle with this problem every once in a while and I haven't yet determined a satisfactory answer.
Fred Monson
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I just looked in Yahoo and found the website. It's www.powersof10.com.
Edward Haller University of South Florida Pathology Department Tampa, Florida
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Can anyone in the DFW area perform these types of analysis? Respond to me with details and contact information.
Thanks
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I am looking for a simple, reliable method for obtaining thin sections for EM from thick (1-2 microns) epoxy resin sections that have been cut, mounted on slides, and stained for preliminary examination with the LM .
Hi All, After Caroline's message I did a web search for "powers of 10" and found this web site which seems to fit what was requested. http://www.wordwizz.com Steve
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} -----Original Message----- } From: Boche, Jo Ellen } Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 4:33 PM } To: 'Microscopy-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com' } Subject: TEM Request for method for cutting thin sections from } thick. } } } } I am looking for a simple, reliable method for obtaining thin sections } for EM from thick (1-2 microns) epoxy resin sections that have been } cut, mounted on slides, and stained for preliminary examination with } the LM. } } bochej-at-boystown.org } } Jo Ellen Boche } Neuroanatomy Laboratory } Boys Town National Research Hospital } Omaha, NE 68131 } (402) 498-6531 } } .
You can "just" re-embed the sections directly on the slide (invert the slide-bound sections on BEEM capsules filled with resin or put the capsule on the slide), repolymerize, and cut. I always manage to make a serious mess with the resin, but it does work.
You may also be able to glue the thick section to a polymerized blank block and then pop it off the slide with a heat/cold regimen - I haven't tried this but it is supposed to work. I think it may be more useful/less disastrous with a REALLY thick section than a normal thick section.
Good luck!
Tamara
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|--------------------------------------------------| Tamara Howard Department of Cell Biology and Physiology University of New Mexico - Health Sciences Center Albuquerque, NM 87131 thoward-at-unm.edu |--------------------------------------------------|
For this reason it's more correctly to call it: "mitochondrion" (M), instead mitochondria. In my point of view, on EM level only 3D reconstruction from the serial sections may give you truthful info about this structure.
By the way, mitochondria/mitochondrion is known as an extremely sensitive organelle: to oxidative stress etc&etc. Its structure may be changed by very slight variation of condition/procedure. Simple example: you are looking how some particular mutation affected M structure. It's very possible, that your mutation will affect the membrane permeability nor M at all. On EM level this may cause the different conditions during sample fixation/processing. Finally you will detect M changes, because the processing conditions were different for control and mutant. Another example: mutants are growing slowly at many instances, it's very difficult to have the culture's "age" similar. People usually grow cells to the some particular optical density (at 450 nm?). So the control will grow up to 1 OD, let say 5 h, but the mutant - 18+ h. Are the "age" of the cells the same? I guess, not. The structure of the M in the cells of different "age" may (and could) be different. So, we have to be careful with M as, from another hand, all EM stuff we have deal with. Sergey
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Below is the result of your feedback form (NJZFM-ultra-55). It was submitted by (george_greg-at-msn.com) from http://www.msa.microscopy.com/Ask-A-Microscopist.html on Wednesday, November 7, 2001 at 19:50:43 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Question: Dear Sir, I recently received, as a gift, a used lab grade microscope without a user manual. Three of the four (oil immersion) objectives are spring retractable. Does this feature mean that I can touch the slide surface without fear of damaging the lens? Thank you for your kind reply, Greg George
Powers of 10 is also available as a Java applet at http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/scienceopticsu/powersof10/ At this moment, the website is inaccessible to me so I cannot verify for sure. Best Wishes.
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That would be "Powers of 10", by Eames. I know it as a video, book, and flip book (see the MICRO bibliography, URL below), but not as a website. Will you please post the URL on the list when you get it?
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The first site mentions Eames and would be the wanted site. The second site too is very good and worth a long look. Its part of the molecular expressions site at Florida State Uni. The third site gives a power of ten perspective on computer data sizes. Cheers Jim Darley ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS PO Box 111, Thuringowa QLD 4817 Australia Ph +61 7 4774 0370 Fax:+61 7 4789 2313 service-at-proscitech.com Great microscopy catalogue, 500 Links, MSDS, User Notes ABN: 99 724 136 560 www.proscitech.com
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on 11/7/01 10:46 AM, Yan Xin at xin-at-magnet.fsu.edu wrote: } We are interested in doing EELS work with a LaB6 filament TEM. Can anyone } tell us how best is the energy resolution with this type of filament? } Dear Yan Xin, As I remember it, the energy spread in a LaB6 filament is about 1-2 eV. The energy resolution obtainable in EELS is affected by factors other than the filament, however, and I do not know the best that can be obtained with your instrument. Yours, Bill Tivol
We are trying to section a tampon in to about five micrometers but any normal sample prep involves EtOH or some other fluid that will be absorbed. i was wondering if anyone knew a method to keep it in at its normal size but in a form that can be cut very thin thanks john
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With effect from 1st November 2001 the Polaron Range of EM preparation instruments will change ownership from Thermo VG Scientific to Quorum Technologies Ltd.
Quorum Technologies Ltd. is the company formed by Bob Kenhard, Mike Wombwell, David Cheshire and the existing staff within Thermo VG Scientific involved in the management, development, sales and manufacturing of the Polaron Range.
We will continue to support the many Polaron instruments out in the field (including EM preparation instruments branded Polaron Equipment Ltd, Emscope, Bio-Rad Microscience, Fisons Instruments and VG). Additional details are available on the new Quorum WWW site ( http://www.quorumtech.com).
The new contact address (effective Nov. 12) will be
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Contacts: Mike.wombwell - sales (mike.wombwell-at-vgscientific.com - after 12th November - mike.wombwell-at-quorumtech.com) David Cheshire - technical support (david.cheshire-at-vgscientific.com - after 12th November - dave.cheshire-at-quorumtech.com) Bob Kenhard - sales and other enquiries (bob.kenhard-at-vgscientific.com - after 12th November - bob.kenhard-at-quorumtech.com) WWW: http://www.quorumtech.com US Contact: Energy Beam Sciences (telephone: 413 786 9322 E-mail - sales-at-ebsciences.com)
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Med vänliga hälsningar/With best wishes
Gareth
"Close your eyes and look. What you saw at first is there no more; and what you will see next has not yet come to life" Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519).
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Would anyone know how to go about getting official certification for histo in the KS and MO region.
Thanks Tim Quinn University of Kansas Research Assistant Natural History Museum and Biodiversity Research Center Dyche Hall Room 414 Lawrence, KS 6604-2454 785-864-4556 tquinn-at-ku.edu
With effect from 1st November 2001 the Polaron Range of EM preparation instruments will change ownership from Thermo VG Scientific to Quorum Technologies Ltd.
Quorum Technologies Ltd. is the company formed by Bob Kenhard, Mike Wombwell, David Cheshire and the existing staff within Thermo VG Scientific involved in the management, development, sales and manufacturing of the Polaron Range.
We will continue to support the many Polaron instruments out in the field (including EM preparation instruments branded Polaron Equipment Ltd, Emscope, Bio-Rad Microscience, Fisons Instruments and VG). Additional details are available on the new Quorum WWW site ( http://www.quorumtech.com).
The new contact address (effective Nov. 12) will be
Quorum Technologies Unit 15A Euro Business Park New Road Newhaven East Sussex U.K. BN9 0DQ
Contacts: Mike.wombwell - sales (mike.wombwell-at-vgscientific.com - after 12th November - mike.wombwell-at-quorumtech.com) David Cheshire - technical support (david.cheshire-at-vgscientific.com - after 12th November - dave.cheshire-at-quorumtech.com) Bob Kenhard - sales and other enquiries (bob.kenhard-at-vgscientific.com - after 12th November - bob.kenhard-at-quorumtech.com) WWW: http://www.quorumtech.com US Contact: Energy Beam Sciences (telephone: 413 786 9322 E-mail - sales-at-ebsciences.com)
Mike Wombwell Polaron Range Sales Director Quorum Technologies
At the risk of looking very stupid, I will take your challenge.
Am I correct in understanding that your question has two parts? 1. What is the mean number of mitochondria per yeast cell in a population. 2. What is the mean area of cristae membranes.
If this is so, then there are actually three challenges here because to get an absolute number for the cristae surface area and the number of mitochondria per cell we also need to have an estimate for a reference space in actual numbers. A good reference space to estimate is cell volume.
Obtaining mean number of mitochondria per cell is actually very easy. I would first throw away the images already obtained because they were subjectively sampled.
We must then remove bias that may be a result of centrifugation - heavier (more dense) cells will pellet to the bottom, with the possibility that a gradient is formed in the pellet. To avoid this, embed the cells first in fast-setting gelatin or agarose, being careful to make sure the cells have been thoroughly mixed. We could of course do it properly and apply the "orintator" to make sure our sampling is isotropic (Mattfeldt et al 1989 Acta Stereol. 8:671-676).
Fix the block and cut it into slabs, rods and then cubes. Using a sequential random sampling protocol, take every "nth" block (decided using random number generator) and embed them separately in resin (see Lucucq 1993 Trends Cell Biol 3:345-358 for details).
Section for counting. A good way to sample the cells to count particles (here is where the catch comes in) is to only count the tops of the particles. With the yeast mitochondria, the 2-D profile does not always represent an individual particle. A profile may represent one single mitochondrion, or may represent a multiply branched, single mitochondrion, depending on the level of branching that is occurring. By counting the tops, connected profiles are eliminated from the sampled population. (for details on a possible method for estimating the amount of branching that is present, look for "Star Volume" in Gundersen et al 1986 J. Microsc. 143:3-45)
How to sample? Use the "Disector" (in this instance, the word means "2 sectors"). The reference is D.C. Stereo (a pseudonym for HJG Gundersen) 1984. J. Microsc. 134:127-136.
To apply, cut two sequential sections and take similar fields of view from both. Use one field to examine for mitochondrial profiles and the other to check if the profile is also present there ( the look-up frame). If a profile is present in one field but not present in the other, it is counted as a "top". (It is a variation of the 2-D counting rule, the associated tangent rule).
Knowing the area of the field of view and the thickness separating the two sequential sections, we can work out the volume being sampled. This will give us an estimate of the number of mitochondria per unit volume. This is not the number of mitochondria per cell. We still need to estimate the cell volume.
To estimate surface area, we can use simple cross lattice overlays and count the number of times a membrane profile crosses a test line. From this we can estimate length of membrane, and by knowing section thickness, can obtain an estimate of membrane area. (see H.J.G. Gundersen et al 1986 J. Microsc. 143:3-45. 1988 APMIS 96:379-394 & 857-881, T.M. Mayhew 1991 Exp. Physiol. 76:639-663, J. Lucocq for details on how to do this) We still need to estimate the cell volume.
How am I doing so far, Fred?
Now, a question for you. I can provide estimates of relative values for number and surface area. However, I do need a reference space to obtain absolute values. How would I obtain a reliable estimation of the mean cell volume of the yeast population? Presumably they are a rapidly dividing population.
Regards
Paul Webster.
on 11/7/01 12:53 PM, Monson, Frederick C. at fmonson-at-wcupa.edu wrote:
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I am looking for a transformer to go into the Ion getter pump powersupply for a Philips 400T. The power supply transformer in this microscope is fried and needs to be replaced. I'm not sure who to contact since the microscope division of Philips is now owned by FEI. Any information would be appreciated.
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We have a Biorad MRC-1000 (1994) with the original video card, and do not have a service contract. The video signal goes into an Indec Systems box with an output RGB + horiz. + vert. via BNC connectors to the monitor. Lately we have been having sporadic severe problems where both the frame and image do not appear on the monitor. Instead a series of dots and/or lines moving across the monitor screen appear. This problem may persist for days and then disappear and the normal frame and image reappear. Sometimes the problem appears momentarily and then corrects. Jiggling the cables during the malfunction changes the rate of dots and lines, but does not bring the frame or image back. Most experts have said this is a monitor problem, but some suggest the video card. The monitor itself is specialized in that ordinary BNC monitors will not work satisfactorily (we have tried). A new monitor from Biorad is several thousand dollars. We would hate to buy a new monitor only to discover it really is the card. Any suggestions as to what additional troubleshooting can be done, or other insights, would be appreciated. Bruce Bruce Cutler, Ph.D. Director, Microscopy & Electronic Imaging Laboratory University of Kansas
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Question: My 8-year-old daughter and I have developed an interest in microscopy as a hobby. We have a Meade 9400 student microscope with built-in light (no field diaphram) and a fixed condenser (with a rotating aperture wheel). I am able to "focus" the condenser by inserting blocks under the slide (and lowering the stage to focus). This has allowed me to get closer to the critical focusing position (the surface of the light source now focuses about 1 cm above the stage. I need this for an effective dark-field effect at 100x magnification (10x10). I have heard that in order to best see thick specimens (especially at 400x), we need Kohler illumination. Do you think this will really make a difference? If so, what modifications would I need to make to achieve this? Many thanks. Reimar
Hi Listers, I am looking for independent providers of service contracts for a JSM-5310 SEM with Digital Image Grabber in Southern Arizona. I would appreciate it if anyone who could provide this service, or anyone who has experiences, good or bad, would email me off list.
on 11/8/01 3:48 PM, Paul Webster at pwebster-at-hei.org wrote:
} } At the risk of looking very stupid, I will take your challenge. } } Am I correct in understanding that your question has two parts? 1. What is } the mean number of mitochondria per yeast cell in a population. 2. What is } the mean area of cristae membranes. } } If this is so, then there are actually three challenges here because to get } an absolute number for the cristae surface area and the number of } mitochondria per cell we also need to have an estimate for a reference space } in actual numbers. A good reference space to estimate is cell volume. [skip] } } Regards
} Paul Webster.
Dear Paul, The risk of your looking stupid is very minimal. I'd use a mito-specific dye and LM to count mitos/cell (and get the distribution of cell sizes, info on whether [mitos] is greater for smaller/larger cells or is constant, etc.). I also have a bias for using HVEM tomography on thick sections to determine cristal-area/mito. Otherwise, yours seems like a very good plan. Yours, Bill Tivol
on 11/8/01 1:03 PM, Dusevich, Vladimir at DusevichV-at-umkc.edu wrote:
} } I am looking for publications of cell cultures observation in a ESEM. So } far not a great success. Any help is greatly appreciated. } Dear Vladimir, I don't know about ESEM, but I did look at cultured PTK1 cells in an environmental chamber in the HVEM (a TEM). I presented a few images at a Biophysical Society meeting about 15 years ago, so I do not remember many details. I'd be happy to discuss this with you off line if you want. Yours, Bill Tivol
Following is an announcement of a position opening at Washington University in St. Louis. I would appreciate your bringing this to the attention of anyone who might be interested. The workhorses of our facilities are a JEOL733 electron microprobe with Advanced Microbeam automation and image analysis, and a Rigaku Geigerflex X-ray diffractometer. Please respond to {blj-at-levee.wustl.edu} if you have any questions and not to the listserver.
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I know you are looking for an independent service provider. However, in the past, I had been very pleased with JEOL service. Currently, I am working on a Hitachi EM, but for 12 years prior I worked on JEOL scopes (both TEM and SEM). The lab that I worked in was on the east coast in New Jersey. I'm not certain how the service is on the west coast, but the number one reason why I purchased new JEOL EMs was for their service history. We had an old JSM-35 and wanted to replaced it as well as purchase a new TEM. Based on the service we had received in the past, we immediately considered JEOL's line of EMs. Granted, this was about 7 years ago since the purchase and about 2 years since I've been out of that particular lab; however I was very pleased with the service from the north east division of JEOL. Good Luck with your search.
I intended on writing you right away, but I got too busy in the lab. I have tried this procedure a few times in the past with some success. I have two articles which I can fax to you if you would like. Sorry, I do not have an electronic copy. The references are:
Gonzalez-Angulo A, Ruiz De Chavez I, Castaneda M: A Reliable Method for Electron Microscopic Examination of Specific Areas from Paraffin-embedded Tissue Mounted on Glass Slides. American Society of Clinical Pathologists (1978) 697-700.
Bretschneider A, Burns W, Morrison A: "Pop-off" Technic. The Ultrastucture of Parafin-embedded Sections. American Journal of Clinical Pathology. Vol. 76, No. 4, October 1981. 450-453.
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Pardon the off-topic post, but this is the only list to which I subscribe which has a significant number of members in Australia and East Asia, where the meteor shower has potential to be a once or twice in a lifetime experience this year:
For North America, best watching period is 4AM to 6AM EST on Nov. 18. For Australia and East Asia, predicted maximum is in the hours between midnight and about 4AM, depending on location, with possible maximum ZHR (zenithal hourly rates) approaching 10,000 per hour from dark-sky sites.
Astronomy is just like microscopy except we look at bigger things with bigger instruments, right?
thurston e herricksthurst0n-at-u.washington.edu11/8/01 3:59 PM
Thurston,
FEI is located in Hillsboro, OR.
Contact them at: 1-503-640-7500.
Good luck!
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} Hello, } } I am looking for a transformer to go into the Ion getter pump powersupply } for a Philips 400T. The power supply transformer in this microscope is } fried and needs to be replaced. I'm not sure who to contact since the } microscope division of Philips is now owned by FEI. Any information would be } appreciated. } } Take care } } Thurston Herricks -- Gib Ahlstrand Electron Optical Facility, University of Minnesota, CBS Imaging Center, 35 Snyder Hall, St. Paul, MN. USA. 55108 (612)624-3454 (612)625-5754 FAX, giba-at-puccini.cdl.umn.edu http://www.cbs.umn.edu/ic/
I have been asked to prepare some samples of brown adipose tissue for TEM, to look at mitochondrial structure and density. Has anyone got any suggestions for fixative and processing schedule for this type of material.
thanks
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} Question: My 8-year-old daughter and I have developed an interest in } microscopy as a hobby. } We have a Meade 9400 student microscope with built-in light (no field } diaphram) and a fixed condenser (with a rotating aperture wheel). } I am able to "focus" the condenser by inserting blocks under the } slide (and lowering the stage to focus). } This has allowed me to get closer to the critical focusing position } (the surface of the light source now focuses about 1 cm above the } stage. } I need this for an effective dark-field effect at 100x magnification } (10x10). I have heard that in order to best see thick specimens } (especially at 400x), we need Kohler illumination. } Do you think this will really make a difference? If so, what } modifications would I need to make to achieve this? } Many thanks. } --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reimar -
You'll find several suggestions for modifying your scope in Stevens' "The Microscope on a Budget"; here's the description from the MICRO bibliography (URL below):
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on 11/9/01 11:01 AM, Rick Mott at rickmott-at-alumni.princeton.edu wrote: } } Astronomy is just like microscopy except we look at } bigger things with bigger instruments, right? } Dear Rick, That, and the fact that no one has yet invented electron astronomy (although study of the solar wind could be called proton astronomy)--let alone scanning probe astronomy (scanning black-hole force astronomy anyone?). :-) Yours, Bill Tivol
Counting the number of simple convex 3-D particles from some 3-D reference space (i.e. cell) using 2-D sections is not a trivial task. The sectioning process reduces the dimension of the particles to 2-D in the section. This 2-D sample of a particle is usually referred to as a profile. Many people have counted the number of profiles in a section and used this number to estimate the number of particles in the 3-D reference space. This of course is usually not a very good estimate of the TRUTH since the number of profiles in the 2-D sample is related not only to the number of particles but also the volume of the particles (more correctly the length of the particle perpendicular to the section plane) in the 3-D reference space. As Paul Webster pointed out in his earlier submission, Hans Gundersen solved the problem of counting particles in sections in his DISECTOR paper (J Microscopy 134:127-136, 1984).
Determining the number of complex particles, such as branching mitochondria adds complexity to the counting task. Luckily the hypothetical graduate student in Fred Monson's example did not take her EM class last year since Gundersen only solved the problem of easily counting complex particles using 2-D sections in September 2001 (J Microscopy 203:314-320). In this paper he introduces the ConnEulor principle for counting complex particles. Coincidentally the example he uses to demonstrate the ConnEulor principle is to determine the number of mitochondria in a cell. This technique like the original disector technique gives a density measure (number/volume) and you must still multiply by the average cell volume to obtain your estimate of particle number per cell.
A practical grad student might wonder if number of mitochondria is necessary and decide to measure the total volume of mitochondria within the cell (a much easier parameter to measure).
John
} } Hi Fred, } } At the risk of looking very stupid, I will take your challenge. } } Am I correct in understanding that your question has two parts? 1. What is } the mean number of mitochondria per yeast cell in a population. 2. What is } the mean area of cristae membranes. } } If this is so, then there are actually three challenges here because to get } an absolute number for the cristae surface area and the number of } mitochondria per cell we also need to have an estimate for a reference space } in actual numbers. A good reference space to estimate is cell volume. } } Obtaining mean number of mitochondria per cell is actually very easy. I } would first throw away the images already obtained because they were } subjectively sampled. } } We must then remove bias that may be a result of centrifugation - heavier } (more dense) cells will pellet to the bottom, with the possibility that a } gradient is formed in the pellet. To avoid this, embed the cells first in } fast-setting gelatin or agarose, being careful to make sure the cells have } been thoroughly mixed. We could of course do it properly and apply the } "orintator" to make sure our sampling is isotropic (Mattfeldt et al 1989 } Acta Stereol. 8:671-676). } } Fix the block and cut it into slabs, rods and then cubes. Using a } sequential random sampling protocol, take every "nth" block (decided using } random number generator) and embed them separately in resin (see Lucucq 1993 } Trends Cell Biol 3:345-358 for details). } } Section for counting. A good way to sample the cells to count particles } (here is where the catch comes in) is to only count the tops of the } particles. With the yeast mitochondria, the 2-D profile does not always } represent an individual particle. A profile may represent one single } mitochondrion, or may represent a multiply branched, single mitochondrion, } depending on the level of branching that is occurring. By counting the } tops, connected profiles are eliminated from the sampled population. (for } details on a possible method for estimating the amount of branching that is } present, look for "Star Volume" in Gundersen et al 1986 J. Microsc. } 143:3-45) } } How to sample? Use the "Disector" (in this instance, the word means "2 } sectors"). The reference is D.C. Stereo (a pseudonym for HJG Gundersen) } 1984. J. Microsc. 134:127-136. } } To apply, cut two sequential sections and take similar fields of view from } both. Use one field to examine for mitochondrial profiles and the other to } check if the profile is also present there ( the look-up frame). If a } profile is present in one field but not present in the other, it is counted } as a "top". (It is a variation of the 2-D counting rule, the associated } tangent rule). } } Knowing the area of the field of view and the thickness separating the two } sequential sections, we can work out the volume being sampled. This will } give us an estimate of the number of mitochondria per unit volume. This is } not the number of mitochondria per cell. We still need to estimate the cell } volume. } } To estimate surface area, we can use simple cross lattice overlays and count } the number of times a membrane profile crosses a test line. From this we } can estimate length of membrane, and by knowing section thickness, can } obtain an estimate of membrane area. (see H.J.G. Gundersen et al 1986 J. } Microsc. 143:3-45. 1988 APMIS 96:379-394 & 857-881, T.M. Mayhew 1991 Exp. } Physiol. 76:639-663, J. Lucocq for details on how to do this) We still need } to estimate the cell volume. } } How am I doing so far, Fred? } } Now, a question for you. I can provide estimates of relative values for } number and surface area. However, I do need a reference space to obtain } absolute values. How would I obtain a reliable estimation of the mean cell } volume of the yeast population? Presumably they are a rapidly dividing } population. } } Regards } } Paul Webster. } } } } } } } on 11/7/01 12:53 PM, Monson, Frederick C. at fmonson-at-wcupa.edu wrote: } } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ } } The Microscopy ListServer -- Sponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- Send Email to ListServer-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com } } On-Line Help http://www.msa.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } } -----------------------------------------------------------------------. } } } } } } Hypothetical! } } } } A graduate student in microbiology has just finished her first course in } } electron microscopy, and she informs her advisor that she wants to study } } mitochondrial structure and function in several related strains of yeast, } } for one of which she fortuitously has electron micrographs of mitochondrial } } profiles that are, she has been told, quite publishable. } } } } Her advisor suggests that she start by comparing 3-4 strains with respect } } to } } number of mitochondria per cell and total mitochondrial cristal area under } } identical conditions of culture. } } } } The student happily responds that she already has micrographs for regularly } } sampled sections from serial sections she learned to make of the strain she } } used in her EM course. She returns the next week with estimates of cristal } } area and numbers of mitochondria per cell based on morphometric analysis of } } those regularly sampled sections. } } } } If the cell is 12-25um in length (haploid and diploid) and always between } } 3-5um in diameter, and if the mitochondrial profiles are in the range of } } 1-2um (circular and ovoid, and sometimes or often branched), what should } } the sampling criteria be for cells that are serially sectioned with } } sections } } approximately 90nm in thickness? } } } } How could one derive the same, but apparently much more statistically } } satisfactory, data from the 40+ cell profiles per section of cells randomly } } oriented and not necessarily (or importantly) sectioned or analyzed } } completely. } } } } All who take on this task should know there is an extremely important, and } } possibly significant, hint that can be observed at: } } http://www.msg.ucsf.edu/sedat/marsh/mito.html. I sometimes think it is } } well } } to know of such hints (or at least to be aware of their possibility) before } } attempting a task. Assumptions are almost always incorrect unless } } rigorously defined and applied, and very often difficult to prove as such } } or } } to isolate in generating an experimental design without flaws. } } } } Knowing that reality often gets in the way of statistics, and vice versa, I } } am } } } } Yours most respectfully, because I wrestle with this problem every once in } } a } } while and I haven't yet determined a satisfactory answer. } } } } Fred Monson } } } } Frederick C. 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the much anticipated Leonid meteor show next Monday morning (Australian time) promises to be a spectacular event if the various predictions are even half correct. Unfortunately there are no guarantees (unlike eclipse predictions) so those of us making travel plans to observe the Leonids risk being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Personally I think the risk is worth taking considering the spectacular sight of thousands of meteors per hour if things work out.
In 1999 I drove for 5 hrs west of Sydney with a friend and my son in an attempt to observe a predicted reasonable Leonid shower. As it turned out we were treated to a much closer light show. The most ferocious thunder storm for twenty years devastate the local orchards in the area we chose to observe from and chased us all the way back to Sydney. We did manage to see a few dozen bright meteors through patchy clouds early in the night so it wasn't a total loss astronomically speaking.
This year I will be observing from central Australia, just a few kilometers from Ayres Rock. I figure that even if the sky show is clouded out or the predictions don't hold up, at least I can get a few good bush walks done during the days.
I'll give a brief report next week. Cheers,
Mark Blackford Materials Division, ANSTO PMB 1, Menai, N.S.W., 2234 Australia
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} ---------- } From: Rick Mott } Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 3:01 AM } To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com } Subject: OT: possible spectacular Leonid meteors, Nov 18/19 } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ } The Microscopy ListServer -- Sponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- Send Email to ListServer-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com } On-Line Help http://www.msa.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } -----------------------------------------------------------------------. } } } Pardon the off-topic post, but this is the only } list to which I subscribe which has a significant } number of members in Australia and East Asia, } where the meteor shower has potential to be } a once or twice in a lifetime experience this } year: } } } } } http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast08nov_1.htm?list534615 } } } } For North America, best watching period is 4AM } to 6AM EST on Nov. 18. For Australia and East } Asia, predicted maximum is in the hours between } midnight and about 4AM, depending on location, } with possible maximum ZHR (zenithal hourly rates) } approaching 10,000 per hour from dark-sky sites. } } Astronomy is just like microscopy except we look at } bigger things with bigger instruments, right? } } Rick Mott } }
-----Original Message----- } From: reimar_gaertner-at-wsib.on.ca [mailto:reimar_gaertner-at-wsib.on.ca] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 8:19 PM Hi Reimar, Here's a cheap substitute for a Kohler type illumination I learned early in my microscopy career. Put a piece of translucent tape (magic mending type) on the rear of the slide. While this is not Kohler it comes close as it mimics the effect of light emitted close to the sample. The thinner the slide the better e.g. a cover slip. Good luck and have fun. Russ Gillmeister Xerox ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Question: My 8-year-old daughter and I have developed an interest in microscopy as a hobby. We have a Meade 9400 student microscope with built-in light (no field diaphram) and a fixed condenser (with a rotating aperture wheel). I am able to "focus" the condenser by inserting blocks under the slide (and lowering the stage to focus). This has allowed me to get closer to the critical focusing position (the surface of the light source now focuses about 1 cm above the stage. I need this for an effective dark-field effect at 100x magnification (10x10). I have heard that in order to best see thick specimens (especially at 400x), we need Kohler illumination. Do you think this will really make a difference? If so, what modifications would I need to make to achieve this? Many thanks. Reimar
Unfortunately, we used our old JSM-35 as a trade-in. The purchase was about 7 years ago. The scope was in good shape, so I am sure it got a good home. However, you can check with JEOL for any used scopes. With a little luck, they just might have something. Also, you may want to check with Dick Daniel from Radco, Inc. (201) 891-8647. He services quite a bit of SEM equipment (mostly Denton products), and has many contacts throughout the United States. Perhaps, he knows of a good used SEM. It is worth a call. Good Luck,
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In its trinocular head there sits a CF PL 5X Projection lens, above that is a Microflex HFX-IIA Photomicrographic Attachment, and onto that is a "35mm camera adapter A", then what is called in the HFX-IIA manual a "Motorized dark box FX-35WA". The latter looks more like a camera body to me.
We want to be able to mount our Nikon D 1 body onto the microscope, with or without the HFX-IIA, whatever it takes.
Is there anyone out there who can tell, from the above, what I need to do to acheive this?
I would have thought that all we need to do would be to mount the D 1 body directly onto the trinocular vertical tube, but then I know almost nothing about light microscopy.
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Dr Sims, first of all you need to get a C-Mount for the microscope, at the bottom of the trinocular head there are 3 hex-screw use them to remove the tube and insert the c-mount with your D1 camera, connect all the wires on the D1, and enjoy.
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My name is Kelly Stanard and I am a lab tech in the Image Analysis Laboratory at National Cancer Institute at Frederick, Maryland. I have been left with a Balzers freeze-fracture unit and some basic instructions but I have no idea what I am doing. Although a few of my attempts have produced decent replicas, I am very uncomfortable with the unit. What I am in need of are a few guidelines as to what all the buttons are for and when would be a good time to push them!! What I believe I have sitting here is a High Vacuum Coating Unit BAF 300 purchased in May, 1976. Quartz Crystal Thin Film Monitor QSG 201 Freeze Etching Unit Control BMS 101 Commutator Unit BCM 101 Pumping Unit Control DPA 101 Control Unit EVM 052A Microtom Movement Control BMB 101 Chamber IKR 010
If you can help me in anyway it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Kelly Stanard Image Analysis Laboratory NCI- Frederick P.O. Box B Frederick, MD 21702 301-846-1528 kstanard-at-ncifcrf.gov
Dr Sims, first of all you need to get a C-Mount for the microscope, at the bottom of the trinocular head there are 3 hex-screw use them to remove the tube and insert the c-mount with your D1 camera, connect all the wires on the D1, and enjoy.
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You can try calling Leica for service, however you may have to send the knife-maker out. I use a company called Dolbey-Jamison, located in PA. They do in-house service. Good Luck,
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Use acetonitrile instead of ethanol or acetone for dehydration. Also, use imidazole buffered osmium to postfix. The mitochondria come out beautifully. I have done this and it works. The references are:
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Angermuller, S. and H. D. Fahimi. 1982. Histochemical Journal Volume 14, pp. 823-835.
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Dear Listers, I am expecting the following samples for paraffin embedding sometime soon -- "wolf ovaries have been preserved in tequila for the past 6 months or so". I first assumed that this was a joke but apparently they are serious--this is a reproductive physiology project from an ecology lab. Any comments are welcome--levity included. I can hear your laughter already! My questions: --has anyone used tequila as a fixative? -- is the embedding worth pursuing? Rosemary Walsh
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No experience and can't think of any jokes but .....
I guess tequila is about 40% ethanol or is this home-brewed stuff?? Standardisation in the future could be a problem - will they be using the same brand next time?
Limited lipid extraction in that case - wash in PBS and cryosection?
You could rehydrate to PBS and refix in buffered formaldehyde - could help to protect against processing.
I guess that wolf ovaries are resonably large so you could try various combinations?
I would be interested to hear how it goes. Go for it and educate us all!
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Med vänliga hälsningar/With best wishes
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I haven't worked in biological EM for some time. I do, however, have some experience with the stated topic. One evening some years ago I partook a bit too much tequila and had a howling good time. Unfortunately, the next morning I found that I was very well fixed indeed. Needed the hair of the dog (or wolf as the case may be) to survive the day. That memory has been well embedded in my memory as I wax nostalgic.
I have no other comments aside from this nonsense. Good luck.
Gary M. Brown
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Dear Listers, I am expecting the following samples for paraffin embedding sometime soon -- "wolf ovaries have been preserved in tequila for the past 6 months or so". I first assumed that this was a joke but apparently they are serious--this is a reproductive physiology project from an ecology lab. Any comments are welcome--levity included. I can hear your laughter already! My questions: --has anyone used tequila as a fixative? -- is the embedding worth pursuing? Rosemary Walsh
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} --has anyone used tequila as a fixative? } -- is the embedding worth pursuing? } Rosemary Walsh ****************** Hi Rosemary, that's a new one.
My first question is, what proof was the tequila? If it was potent stuff, the ethanol level may have been high enough to act as a coagulative fixative. Many years ago I was asked to do EM of the gills of clams that had been fixed in 70% ethanol. I rehydrated them to buffer and then processed for EM as usual (glut, osmium, etc). The ultrastructure, while clearly compromised was far better than I had expected. You can try this with the ovary samples. The fact that they are destined for paraffin means that you won't have the very fine structure to worry about. You might want to use a higher than usual concentration of pfa, or even throw in a little glut to lock in whatever is left.
Good luck, Lee
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I would like to contract out cryosectioning of some carbon black - filled rubber material. We desire sections on the order of 1 micron thick amenable to light microscope/image analysis measurements that we will perform. There is plenty of sample material and we don't need serial sectioning. We are hoping to have this done within weeks.
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Not too dumb on the part of the enviro's. After all, Tequila does the worm! Tequila, as I quickly discovered, can have between 35-55% ethanol.
My recommendation would be to proceed with your own fixation and not worry. They used their heads when they realized they went into the field unprepared, or they had an accident, or they couldn't take the fixative with them and couldn't find any there. You treat the tissue as if it just got to you. The nitrogens are likely still waiting for the formaldehyde. Or, you could transfer them to Clarke's 3:1(Absolute ethanol:Glacial Acetic Acid), and have a really granular texture in the sections. Or Bouin's, which would also complete the job on the worm!
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} ---------- } From: Rosemary Walsh } Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:46 PM } To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com } Subject: a sample prep queri } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ } The Microscopy ListServer -- Sponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- Send Email to ListServer-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com } On-Line Help http://www.msa.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } -----------------------------------------------------------------------. } } } Dear Listers, } I am expecting the following samples for paraffin embedding sometime } } soon -- "wolf ovaries have been preserved in tequila for the past 6 months } } or so". I first assumed that this was a joke but apparently they are } serious--this is a reproductive physiology project from an ecology } lab. Any comments are welcome--levity included. I can hear your laughter } } already! My questions: } --has anyone used tequila as a fixative? } -- is the embedding worth pursuing? } Rosemary Walsh } } }
As I recall the lower range is around that for normal cells and the upper range is something like 15-40um (BIG!!!). Just hope that J. Kiernan sees your email so that you get a more refined result.
Fred Monson
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It's possible, that the ovaries are fixed OK, provided they were cut open when placed into the tequila. Normally, 70% ethanol would have been better, maybe they should have used for alcohol fixation. If they have not been cut open prior to fixation, then the odds are that the morphology of the internal areas of the ovary will not be very good. However, try one sample, trim to desired sized and post-fix in 10% formalin overnight, process for paraffin embedding.
Good Luck!
Karen Jensen, M.S. Associate Scientist and Project Manager University of Rochester Medical Center Electron Microscope Research Core Pathology and Lab. Med. Rochester, NY 14642
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soon -- "wolf ovaries have been preserved in tequila for the past 6 months or so". I first assumed that this was a joke but apparently they are serious--this is a reproductive physiology project from an ecology lab. Any comments are welcome--levity included. I can hear your laughter already! My questions: --has anyone used tequila as a fixative? -- is the embedding worth pursuing? Rosemary Walsh
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My name is Kelly Stanard and I am a lab tech in the Image Analysis Laboratory at National Cancer Institute at Frederick, Maryland. I have been left with a Balzers freeze-fracture unit and some basic instructions but I have no idea what I am doing. Although a few of my attempts have produced decent replicas, I am very uncomfortable with the unit. What I am in need of are a few guidelines as to what all the buttons are for and when would be a good time to push them!! What I believe I have sitting here is a High Vacuum Coating Unit BAF 300 purchased in May, 1976. Quartz Crystal Thin Film Monitor QSG 201 Freeze Etching Unit Control BMS 101 Commutator Unit BCM 101 Pumping Unit Control DPA 101 Control Unit EVM 052A Microtom Movement Control BMB 101 Chamber IKR 010
If you can help me in anyway it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Kelly Stanard Image Analysis Laboratory NCI- Frederick P.O. Box B Frederick, MD 21702 301-846-1528 kstanard-at-ncifcrf.gov
The CCD on the D1 is 23.7mm x 15.6mm, so a projection lens of 1.5x should be sufficient. Do you have some kind of C-mount to Nikon mount converter? The D1 uses the same Nikon "F" mount that Nikon SLR bodies have used for years, so without a converter it will not mount directly to a C-mount.
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The only question now is which C-mount. Whereas the CCD for Coolpix mounts requires 1X, the CCD for the D1 is larger ... 1.5X, 2X???
C-Mount is just an adapter and wont requiere any additional lens, You'll get a direct image. You can use different c-mounts with zoom in them in order to get a larger field of view. The lens you require will depend on the chip size of your camera (DN100 has 1/2" chip size) so if you want a larger field of view you probably want to buy a C mount + TV adapter 0.45X The DXM1200 has a 2/3" chip size therefore the best combination will be C mount + TV adapter 0.6X
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Hi folks, Thanks for the replies. Apparently this was serious inquiry. Samples were taken in a remote area in Alaska. The interest is in determining the number of ovulations compared with the number of pregnancies in dominant wolves versus pseudo pregnancies in other pack females. We'll probably rehydrate to PBS and fix in 4% paraformaldehyde, process and embedd in paraffin, stain with H&E for LM to see what we have. Another option is to go directly to 10% formalin. If I can obtain some sample I intend to process for TEM "just for the record". This should take us awhile but I promise to keep you posted. Thanks again to all of you wonderful folks who responded. Not yet destined for Margaritaville! Rosemary
Here are the replies No experience and can't think of any jokes but .....
I guess tequila is about 40% ethanol or is this home-brewed stuff?? Standardisation in the future could be a problem - will they be using the same brand next time?Limited lipid extraction in that case - wash in PBS and cryosection? You could rehydrate to PBS and refix in buffered formaldehyde - could help to protect against processing. I guess that wolf ovaries are resonably large so you could try various combinations? Gareth Morgan MPhil MSc FIBMS, Institutionen för Mikrobiologi, Patologi och Immunologi(IMPI), H5, Karolinska Institutet, Dept of Biomedical Laboratory Science, Lindhagensgatan 92, Box 12773, S 112 96, Stockholm Sweden
Sheesh! What an ecology lab. Were they getting the wolves drunk and then ripping out their ovaries and plunking them in tequila? I've never tried preserving anything in tequila, but it probably works for livers. Good luck (and you should charge these idiots A LOT). Mary McKee MGH Renal Unit Charlestown, MA 02129 (617)726-3696
Hi Rosemary, After 6 months or so, do you suppose that the ovaries are "Wasting Away in Margaritaville"? JME Digital Microscopy Facility Mount Allison University Sackville, NB E4L 1G7 CANADA phone: 506-364-2519 fax: 506-364-2505 email: jehrman-at-mta.ca
In "The collection and preservation of Animal Parasites" by G.O.W. Kruse e M.H. Pritchard (Tech. Bull. no 1, The Harold W. Manter Laboratory- University of Nebraska Press, 1982) the use of any available local brew to fix and preserve parasites is reported, if no fixative is available.Transfer of parasites to 70% EtOH as soon as the latter is available, after carefully pouring out the spirit.Bruno Dore
I have been present at the AFIP when they got specimens similar to your wolf ovaries. Some of us wanted to go do field work with the guys who came up with this as they said they use tequila alot, for many things. Our imaginations went active. You might try contacting the Histology laboratory there and find out what they do exactly. I can give you some advise a fellow histologist and I will forward yourmessage to HistoNet as someone there may be able to assist you also. The first issue is the fixation, at this point both fixation and dehydration are complete. Do you plan to dissect the specimens into blocks, if so what sizes? I have a protocol using butanol to clear the specimen prior to infiltration with paraffin. It is very gentle and would hopefully allow the perimeters to stay softer and easier to section. Let me know if I can assist you or you need the protocol. I am generally in from 9AM to 5PM. Today will be the exception we have meetings until 1PM.
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My first question is, what proof was the tequila? If it was potent stuff, the ethanol level may have been high enough to act as a coagulative fixative. Many years ago I was asked to do EM of the gills of clams that had been fixed in 70% ethanol. I rehydrated them to buffer and then processed for EM as usual (glut, osmium, etc). The ultrastructure, while clearly compromised was far better than I had expected. You can try this with the ovary samples. The fact that they are destined for paraffin means that you won't have the very fine structure to worry about. You might want to use a higher than usual concentration of pfa, or even throw in a little glut to lock in whatever is left. Leona Cohen-Gould, M.S. Sr. Staff Associate Director, Electron Microscopy Core Facility Manager, Optical Microscopy Core Facility Joan & Sanford I. Weill Medical College of Cornell University voice (212)746-6146 fax (212)746-8175
For TEM I have looked at skin and underlying connective tissue from all kinds of strange scenarios, eg. collected from a dead emu under freezing weather conditions for a number of days. Expect loss of fine detail and for certain organelles to be much more poorly preserved than others. You might take some samples and run them down to buffer then refix in buffered formaldehyde. Embed some other samples straight from the tequila. I suspect the tequila is between 40-60% ethanol. Don't waste the tequila, maybe you can start a fad, a pleasent way to increase fertility, or some other patent medicine application. Bruce Cutler, Ph.D. Director, Microscopy & Electronic Imaging Laboratory University of Kansas
Not too dumb on the part of the enviro's. After all, Tequila does the worm! Tequila, as I quickly discovered, can have between 35-55% ethanol. My recommendation would be to proceed with your own fixation and not worry. They used their heads when they realized they went into the field unprepared, or they had an accident, or they couldn't take the fixative with them and couldn't find any there. You treat the tissue as if it just got to you. The nitrogens are likely still waiting for the formaldehyde. Or, you could transfer them to Clarke's 3:1(Absolute ethanol:Glacial Acetic Acid), and have a really granular texture in the sections. Or Bouin's, which would also complete the job on the worm.Regards,Fred Monson Frederick C. Monson, PhD Center for Advanced Scientific Imaging(CASI) West Chester University of Pennsylvania Schmucker Science Center II South Church Street West Chester, PA, 19383 eMail: fmonson-at-wcupa.edu
I do a lot of ovaries here - A LOT, but they are usually rodent and are fixed in 10% formalin, Bouins or 70% ETOH not tequila (what a waste of good tequila - assuming that it was of the good variety). I hope that the ovaries were small or trimmed before they were plunked into the tequila. I'd process them mostly out of curiosity to see how they might turn out. The ultrastructure wouldn't be much to speak of but there might be some histology to see. One reply on the microscopy listserver stated that tequila is about 40% alcohol. If so I'd trim the samples if necessary and process as I usually do by starting in 70% ETOH through 80%, 95% x2, 100% x3, Xylene x 2, paraffin x 2. The replier on microscopy also said to rehydrate in PBS and refix in formalin. You could do that. In fact this might be a good idea it might help to preserve what hasn't already been destroyed. I hope Rosemary processes the wolf ovaries and gives a report on the outcome.
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I think the active ingredient would be the ethanol content of tequila. No, I am not laughing, when Lord Byron died somewhere in Mediterrean area or whereever, his body was preserved in a wine or brandy cask and shipped home (to England?) for burial.
She might want to know what the percentage of alcohol is, what proof, and work on processing from that point. I would love to know the outcome of this, I used Chinese vodka as a means to clean a scratch in skin while in that country and prevent a skin infection, it worked but I had a quart of the stuff, gave it to some person who loved the stuff in coca cola! Skin healed well, his liver suffered badly!
As for humor, it could be said the tissues were well "pickled", same as people are when they ingest too much of this stuff!! Gayle Callis MT,HT,HTL(ASCP) Histopathology Supervisor Veterinary Molecular Biology - Marsh Lab Montana State University - Bozeman 19th and Lincoln St Bozeman MT 59717-3610
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It's possible, that the ovaries are fixed OK, provided they were cut open when placed into the tequila. Normally, 70% ethanol would have been better, maybe they should have used for alcohol fixation. If they have not been cut open prior to fixation, then the odds are that the morphology of the internal areas of the ovary will not be very good. However, try one sample, trim to desired sized and post-fix in 10% formalin overnight, process for paraffin embedding. Karen Jensen, M.S. Associate Scientist and Project Manager University of Rochester Medical Center Electron Microscope Research Core Pathology and Lab. Med. Rochester, NY 14642
The C-mount interface suggestions below should work and will result in an image being available to your D1 sensor. However, if your solution requires that you invest more money into the process, you might consider additional alternatives geared more towards 35mm SLR photography to optimize your results. With the D1 being an SLR camera body, and given the pixel resolution of the sensor, for our D1 customers, we have, instead, used one of two options which, we believe, result in optimal sensor fill and end results.
1.) Diagnostic Instruments has a photographic adapter series for coupling 35mm SLR cameras to microscopes. Within that series, the PA1-12A with the NIKC-T2 adapter usually fits the bill for most Nikon scopes. Diagnostic Instruments recommends a Nikon 1.6x photoeyepiece for image projection.
2.) Alternatively, I believe Nikon now has a direct Nikon option for the D1 series of cameras. It does pretty much the same thing as Option 1, providing the 1.6x projection, except it all comes from Nikon, and might be slightly more "refined".
Diagnostic Instruments products are available through a network of dealers, most of which are also microscope dealers. Nikon products are (obviously) available from your local Nikon dealer. You might consult your Nikon dealer in regard to either solution. They can probably offer both.
PLEASE NOTE: This e-mail is in no way meant to pass judgment on the suggestions of other list members. I only provide the above info based on opinion and the approach we have taken in this situation.
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C-Mount is just an adapter and wont requiere any additional lens, You'll get a direct image. You can use different c-mounts with zoom in them in order to get a larger field of view. The lens you require will depend on the chip size of your camera (DN100 has 1/2" chip size) so if you want a larger field of view you probably want to buy a C mount + TV adapter 0.45X The DXM1200 has a 2/3" chip size therefore the best combination will be C mount + TV adapter 0.6X
} } Dear listers, } Some time ago one of you discussed a combination of resins that } snapped off culture dishes fairly easily. Could you post that again } as I need the information and can't seem to locate it in the } archives. I've tried several combinations of resins from different } sources on different brands of plates and the results are not great. } There also appear to be differences in the "snapability" between the } multiple well plates and the individual dishes from the same } companies, which adds to the problem. I'd really appreciate knowing } the magic combination of resin components if you could readdress the } issue. } Thanks, } Mary Gail Engle } **************** HI Mary Gail,
I was the one who posted my "magic mixture". It is this: LX112 (Ladd Industries), DDSA (Electron Microscopy Sciences), NMA (also EMS) and DMP-30 (Ladd). I use a "standard" Epon recipe, nothing secret there. After the last 100% ethanol, I pour a shallow layer of resin into the dish and insert (tubes made by cutting the ends off BEEM capsules) into the resin over areas of interest. Be sure that the molded end of the tube is facing down so that you have a perfectly flat edge. Polymerize overnight, then fill just the tubes with more resin. Return to the oven for 24-36 hr. when you remove then dish from the oven, just grasp the embedding tube with a pair of needle-nosed pliers and snap. If anything, a small amount of the dish may come off with your block, but it shoul.d not leave any cells behind. I haven't seen a difference between single and multi-well plates, although the small diameter wells often don't work well....I think its tough to get a good exchange of the last alcohol and the blocks tend to be gummy.
If you have any more questions, contact me off-list and will will elaborate.
Lee -- Leona Cohen-Gould, M.S. Sr. Staff Associate Director, Electron Microscopy Core Facility Manager, Optical Microscopy Core Facility Joan & Sanford I. Weill Medical College of Cornell University voice (212)746-6146 fax (212)746-8175
Hi listers, With the agave shortage a couple of years back, tequila is getting expensive. What about gin? Or whiskey? Then we could give the fixations cute names like 'The Limey' or 'Kentucky's Finest' (respectively). The ethanol content would be about the same, and there would be less impurities (unless those impurities are what makes it a good fixative). Just a thought.
Gareth Morgan wrote: } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ } The Microscopy ListServer -- Sponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- Send Email to ListServer-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com } On-Line Help http://www.msa.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } -----------------------------------------------------------------------. } } No experience and can't think of any jokes but ..... } } I guess tequila is about 40% ethanol or is this home-brewed stuff?? } Standardisation in the future could be a problem - will they be using the } same brand next time? } } Limited lipid extraction in that case - wash in PBS and cryosection? } } You could rehydrate to PBS and refix in buffered formaldehyde - could help } to protect against processing. } } I guess that wolf ovaries are resonably large so you could try various } combinations? } } I would be interested to hear how it goes. Go for it and educate us all! } } At 19:46 2001-11-13 -0500, Rosemary Walsh wrote: } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ } } The Microscopy ListServer -- Sponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- Send Email to ListServer-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com } } On-Line Help http://www.msa.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } } -----------------------------------------------------------------------. } } } } } } Dear Listers, } } I am expecting the following samples for paraffin embedding sometime } } soon -- "wolf ovaries have been preserved in tequila for the past 6 months } } or so". I first assumed that this was a joke but apparently they are } } serious--this is a reproductive physiology project from an ecology } } lab. Any comments are welcome--levity included. I can hear your laughter } } already! My questions: } } --has anyone used tequila as a fixative? } } -- is the embedding worth pursuing? } } Rosemary Walsh } } } } } } Med vänliga hälsningar/With best wishes } } Gareth } } "Close your eyes and look. What you saw at first is there no more; and what } you will see next has not yet come to life" Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519). } } http://www.ki.se/biomedlab } e-mail Gareth.Morgan-at-impi.ki.se } } Tel +46 8 728 3734 } Fax +46 8 728 3688 } } Gareth Morgan MPhil MSc FIBMS, } Institutionen för Mikrobiologi, } Patologi och Immunologi(IMPI), H5, } Karolinska Institutet, } Dept of Biomedical Laboratory Science, } Lindhagensgatan 92, Box 12773, } S 112 96, Stockholm } Sweden } } OBS! Besöksadress: Lindhagensgatan 92 } NB! Visiting address:Lindhagensgatan 92
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Hi It all depends on which measurements you have in mind. In the simplest case, you can use topographic imaging to trace the changes in topography during oxidation. From these measurements, you can detect the formation of oxide if it is accompanied by significant morphological changes, e.g. instead of flat surface with atomic steps you see large (10-100 nm) oxide crystallites. Of course, if oxide is uniform, you wouldn't see much. If you want to get oxide thickness, you can etch it locally and measure the step heigh between etched and unetched parts. Electrostatic force microscopy and surface potential microscopies are completely different story. In principle, on the potential map you can see charged grain boundaries, trapped charges and other electroactive defects. You can also measure CPD variations between different phases. Some useful leads can be found in papers by J.W.P. Hsu, D.A. Bonnell et al and Ludeke and Cartier, among others. However, interpretation of the SSPM images can be tricky. The usual caveat is topographical artifacts, etc. You might also consider asking the same question at DI forum at spm-at-di.com Hope this helps Sergei
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Bacardi 151 proof rum made a good fixative for marine organisms ...
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} Hi listers, } With the agave shortage a couple of years back, tequila is getting } expensive. What about gin? Or whiskey? Then we could give the } fixations cute names like 'The Limey' or 'Kentucky's Finest' } (respectively). The ethanol content would be about the same, and there } would be less impurities (unless those impurities are what makes it a } good fixative). Just a thought. } } Gareth Morgan wrote: } } } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ } } The Microscopy ListServer -- Sponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- Send Email to ListServer-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com } } On-Line Help http://www.msa.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } } -----------------------------------------------------------------------. } } } } No experience and can't think of any jokes but ..... } } } } I guess tequila is about 40% ethanol or is this home-brewed stuff?? } } Standardisation in the future could be a problem - will they be using the } } same brand next time? } } } } Limited lipid extraction in that case - wash in PBS and cryosection? } } } } You could rehydrate to PBS and refix in buffered formaldehyde - could help } } to protect against processing. } } } } I guess that wolf ovaries are resonably large so you could try various } } combinations? } } } } I would be interested to hear how it goes. Go for it and educate us all! } } } } At 19:46 2001-11-13 -0500, Rosemary Walsh wrote: } } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ } } } The Microscopy ListServer -- Sponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } } } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- Send Email to ListServer-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com } } } On-Line Help http://www.msa.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } } } -----------------------------------------------------------------------. } } } } } } } } } Dear Listers, } } } I am expecting the following samples for paraffin embedding sometime } } } soon -- "wolf ovaries have been preserved in tequila for the past 6 months } } } or so". I first assumed that this was a joke but apparently they are } } } serious--this is a reproductive physiology project from an ecology } } } lab. Any comments are welcome--levity included. I can hear your laughter } } } already! My questions: } } } --has anyone used tequila as a fixative? } } } -- is the embedding worth pursuing? } } } Rosemary Walsh } } } } } } } } } } Med vänliga hälsningar/With best wishes } } } } Gareth } } } } "Close your eyes and look. What you saw at first is there no more; and what } } you will see next has not yet come to life" Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519). } } } } http://www.ki.se/biomedlab } } e-mail Gareth.Morgan-at-impi.ki.se } } } } Tel +46 8 728 3734 } } Fax +46 8 728 3688 } } } } Gareth Morgan MPhil MSc FIBMS, } } Institutionen för Mikrobiologi, } } Patologi och Immunologi(IMPI), H5, } } Karolinska Institutet, } } Dept of Biomedical Laboratory Science, } } Lindhagensgatan 92, Box 12773, } } S 112 96, Stockholm } } Sweden } } } } OBS! Besöksadress: Lindhagensgatan 92 } } NB! Visiting address:Lindhagensgatan 92 } } -- } Russell McConnell } Confocal Imaging Facility Technician } Department of Neuroscience } Tufts University School of Medicine } M&V Building room #137 } 136 Harrison Ave. } Boston, MA 02111 } Tel. (617) 636-3795
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Hello, I have been loaned a microtome (Leitz 1512) by a colleague which according to the instruction manual requires regular oiling. The microtome did not come with any oil and the price I have been quoted by a local supplier for microtome oil was about 75$US (including VAT) for 50ml (SAKURA 1447). I found the price a bit steep and am left wondering if it is absolutely necessary to buy "microtome" oil or if I can use an off the shelf oil (e.g 3 in 1 or something like that). I do not want to compromise the performance of the microtome as it is not mine and would appreciate any advice from those with experience. Thanks for any help. Sincerely, Jonathan
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Hello, I have been loaned a microtome (Leitz 1512) by a colleague which according to the instruction manual requires regular oiling. The microtome did not come with any oil and the price I have been quoted by a local supplier for microtome oil was about 75$US (including VAT) for 50ml (SAKURA 1447). I found the price a bit steep and am left wondering if it is absolutely necessary to buy "microtome" oil or if I can use an off the shelf oil (e.g 3 in 1 or something like that). I do not want to compromise the performance of the microtome as it is not mine and would appreciate any advice from those with experience. Thanks for any help. Sincerely, Jonathan
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We are trying to microscopy a microorganism, spiroplasma using TEM. Every time we had problem to see clearly the membrane around the organism. We tried to increase the time of Osmium (4%) fixation, 3-5 hours at RT after glutaldehyde fixation. But the membrane preservation is still terrible. I would very much appreciate any of suggestions for that.
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Hi Y'All, I'm interested to know what exactly is left behind after Ag (or C) paint (used as an electrical contact on a sample stub) has dried. I have used this method of attaching samples to holders in ultra high vacuum systems and after the paint is thoroughly dried there is no outgassing in uhv to 10-10 torr. However, I wondered if anyone has any idea what the remaining constituents or composition of the paint would be after drying.
Thanks in advance,
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Michelle, I have good results staining respiratory mucosal tissue embedded in Araldite 502 with Alcian blue (8GS?) with or without PAS and in conjugation with Weigert's hematoxlyn. The plastic is first etched 1 to 3 minutes with sodium ethoxide, one:one, with toluene. After that I followed standard histological protocols. However, the staining times need to be increased and/or heated to compensate for the reduced number of available staining sites in semithins. The sections were spectacular I don't mind saying.
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I believe it's the nature of the Spiroplasma genus membrane structure rather than the poor preservation from your side. The usual glut/OsO4 fixation should be just fine, the problem is in visualization - lack of contrast. There is a good site on http://www.oardc.ohio-state.edu/spiroplasma/what.htm explaining evolutionary degeneration of the cell walls of the whole class Mollicutes. You may want to try some other contrast enhancing methods in addition to traditional heavy metal post-staining. Feel free to contact me off-line.
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-----Original Message----- } From: Haixin Xu To: Mel Dickson Cc: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com Sent: 11/16/2001 9:23 AM
Hi Listers,
We are trying to microscopy a microorganism, spiroplasma using TEM. Every time we had problem to see clearly the membrane around the organism. We tried to increase the time of Osmium (4%) fixation, 3-5 hours at RT after glutaldehyde fixation. But the membrane preservation is still terrible. I would very much appreciate any of suggestions for that.
Steve Buckingham wrote: ========================================================== } I'm interested to know what exactly is left behind after Ag (or C) } paint (used as an electrical contact on a sample stub) has dried. I have used } this method of attaching samples to holders in ultra high vacuum systems and } after the paint is thoroughly dried there is no outgassing in uhv to 10-10 } torr. However, I wondered if anyone has any idea what the remaining } constituents or composition of the paint would be after drying. ========================================================== Our firm has had hands-on invovlement in the formulation of both silver and carbon "paints" for SEM (including UHV) applications going back to the early 1970's. I think I can comment on this topic.
The silver and carbon systems have to be discussed separately.
In the case of the silver system, of the leading brands used in microscopy, there is some considerable difference in the size and shape of the silver colloid, the suspending organic carrier and the composition and loading of polymer(s) that are present to impart to the paint different characteristics . We have learned over the years that some polymer is important in order to give the final paint layer the kind of adhesive properites users desire. More can sometimes be "too much" and some polymers tend to be more effective as an adhesive at low levels than other polymers. The shape of the colloid (e.g. flat platelet vs. round sphere) is important as well, since some sizes/shapes of the silver colloid lead to a higher likelihood of a skin forming during drying, which then acts as a transport barrier so that there is a wet region underneath. When such a skin-over-wet sample is inserted into the vacuum system, we all know the consequences.
Finally, we have found that not all silver paints found in the microscopy market have the same high purity, although we would be the first to recognize that for most SEM users, the presence of such impurities (such as contaminant SiO2 particles, otherwise known as glass frit) at low levels would not make any difference. There is a difference in the % silver loadings, something many just don't appreciate, and sometimes what appears to be a "better price" deal in fact is a product that is "cheaper" because of lower silver solids.......full disclosure on the percent silver solids at least for the SPI Supplies products are given on our website. Further evidence of the differences between products are the differences in flash points as disclosed in MSDS information.
So to now answer the question, with regard to silver, after the liquid carrier evaporates completely, with no wetness under a skin, there should be only the silver colloid, polymer at a low level, and otheriwise unintended impurities. Most people report that when the dried SPI Supplies silver paint is inserted into a UHV sustem, they find no indication of a diminuition of the quality of the vacuum.
For the carbon paint, the system is a bit easier to describe, the colloid is present much as is the silver colloid, a bit of a polymer to give the carbon paint greater adhesion properties, and a low level of impurities. Again, the carbon paints are not "all the same". There are differences in the carbon colloid size, difference in the polymer, and differences in the impurity elements that might be found. When the carbon paint dries, there is also a tendency for a skin to form, and since there are differences in the formulations, there are differences in the tendency for skin formation. But when fully dry, and there is no organic carrier underneath a skin, there should be only the carbon colloid, the polymer, and unintended impurities (which vary from product to product). We have had similar reports with regard to the SPI Carbon Paint product, that when inserted into a UHV system , there is no indication of a diminuiution of the quality of the vacuum.
Disclaimer: For nearly thirty years, SPI Supplies has formulated silver and carbon paints for SEM/EDS and other vacuum applications, and we have been able to do extensive testing on our own in-house equipment of various formulations. Now despite our obvious eagerness to sell more, I would urge consideration of the dry adhesives, mainly the double sided conductive carbon sheets and the analogous double sided silver sheet products. They too seem to be equally vacuum compatible and one eliminates the uncertainly of any kind of "wet" region underneath a skin on the surface. One also eliminates the possibility of inhalation of organic vapors. Such double sided (dry) adhesives are available from SPI Supplies as well as from the main supply sources for consumables for SEM and TEM. But like with the silver and carbon paint products, they don't all "come from the same place" and your experiences with one might not necessarily be the same as with the others. You might want to try more than one kind and then draw your own conclusions.
Chuck
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Question: What power microscope do I need to see bacteria grow on samples of meat. I have two microscopes one that is up to 43x and another at up to 900x. I want to see and measure if and how much bacteria is present in my slide samples.
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A friend of mine is an optician and got a slit lamp.
He is now picking up pictures to be stored in a computer with a TV camera.
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The slit lamp is equipped with a camera attachment and he got a camera too, but the procedure of taking a picture with a film, develop it, scan and store it is too long.
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} Name: Erin Silk } } Organization: Summit Middle School } } Education: 6-8th Grade Middle School } } Location: Boulder,Colorado,USA } } Question: What power microscope do I need to see bacteria grow on } samples of meat. I have two microscopes one that is up to 43x and } another at up to 900x. I want to see and measure if and how much } bacteria is present in my slide samples. } Erin -
The "900x" may do the job for you. But since anything above 400x SHOULD require what a microscopist calls an "oil immersion objective", I fear that your lenses will not give you a clear image. The best way available to you for actually seeing the bacteria will be to use a sterile swab to take a sample to smear on a slide; you'll probably need to stain them to make them visible. Getting accurate quantitative data probably won't be possible with the methods available to you. Look in catalogs like Flinn Scientific, Carolina Biological, or Edmund Scientific for kits with stains and instructions. If you can't see them, consider trying to grow the bacteria on culture medium in petrie dishes. You can find supplies in the same catalogs.
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This depends on whose paint you use. Ted Pella, SPI, EMS, etc. all use different solvents (such as methylethylketone, acetone, and others), and they use some sort of polymer (acrylic?) as a binder. The best thing is to get the MSD sheet for the particular brand you use, and call the folks from whom you bought the paint.
Phi
} Hi Y'All, } I'm interested to know what exactly is left behind after Ag (or C) } paint (used as an electrical contact on a sample stub) has dried. I have } used this method of attaching samples to holders in ultra high vacuum } systems and after the paint is thoroughly dried there is no outgassing in } uhv to 10-10 torr. However, I wondered if anyone has any idea what the } remaining constituents or composition of the paint would be after drying. } } Thanks in advance, } } Steve } } Steve Buckingham } Dir. of Process Development } Excellatron Solid State LLC } 1640 Roswell Street, Suite J } Smyrna, GA 30080 } phone 770 438 2201 } fax 617 812 5920
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Unless I'm dreadfully mistaken a microtome does not produce extreme heat (like an engine) and would not be used at -100C. The oil is required for lubrication and should cause little drag due to high viscosity. Sounds like sewing machine oil to me. If it was my microtome, I'd use some Molyslip (molybdenum disulfide), which lubricates better than oil, does not lose its properties, sticks better then grease and does not increase drag like grease. Until better reasons are provided, it appears somebody is selling snake-oil. Many years ago a top engineer from Ford Motors compared fancy oil additives with quality engine oil thus: They are mouse milk and very precious, but don't do anything that Cows-milk won't do.
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On Saturday, November 17, 2001 7:52 AM, Jonathan Wilson [SMTP:wilson_jm-at-cimar.org] wrote: } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ } The Microscopy ListServer -- Sponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- Send Email to ListServer-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com } On-Line Help http://www.msa.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } -----------------------------------------------------------------------. } } } Hello, } I have been loaned a microtome (Leitz 1512) by a colleague which } according to the instruction manual requires regular oiling. The microtome } did not come with any oil and the price I have been quoted by a local } supplier for microtome oil was about 75$US (including VAT) for 50ml (SAKURA } 1447). I found the price a bit steep and am left wondering if it is } absolutely necessary to buy "microtome" oil or if I can use an off the shelf } oil (e.g 3 in 1 or something like that). I do not want to compromise the } performance of the microtome as it is not mine and would appreciate any } advice from those with experience. } Thanks for any help. } Sincerely, } Jonathan } } Jonathan Wilson (PhD) } CIIMAR } Rua do Campo Alegre 823 } 4150-180 Porto, Portugal } tel: 351 22 608 0470 / 71 } fax: 351 22 606 0423 } e-mail: wilson_jm-at-cimar.org } web: www.cimar.org
Hi, I am trying to build fluorescence confocal microscope using a laser,a dichroic mirror, an objective(numerical aperture=0.7;working distance = 6 mm; focal length = 2 mm; focus depth 0.6 micron)which focuses into a cryostat,the emmited light is focused into the monochromator with a mirror in, and then to the CCD.
However, I did not achieve wide illumination, I've checked the spot size with the CCD but it had hardly changed even though i added a short focus lens in the exciting beam path and a diffuser. I also tried to put a longer focusing lens in the exciting beam path so that the focal point will be inside the objective but the image didn't widened.
Does anyone has an idea how to solve the problem and what lens or optics i should use in the path of the exciting laser so that i would get wide illumination. and a wide image as well.
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You may try using low molecular weight tannic acid after osmium fixation.
Reference: Nicolae Simionescu and Maia Simionescu 1976. Galloylglycoses of low molecular weight as mordant in electron microscopy. The Journal of Cell Biology. Vol 70, 608-621
Annfook Yang
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Hi Listers,
We are trying to microscopy a microorganism, spiroplasma using TEM. Every time we had problem to see clearly the membrane around the organism. We tried to increase the time of Osmium (4%) fixation, 3-5 hours at RT after glutaldehyde fixation. But the membrane preservation is still terrible. I would very much appreciate any of suggestions for that.
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The MSA Undergraduate Research Scholarship Program is currently solicting applications from students interested in conducting a research project which involves the use of any microscopy technique. Students should be sponsored by a member of MSA. The maximal award is $3000. The application deadline is Dec 31, 2001. Applications can be obtained from the MSA Business Office, businessoffice-at-msa.microscopy.com or call toll free at (800) 538-3672. If you have any questions or require additional information regarding the program please contact either:
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Thanks to all who replied to my posting last week about camera-to-microscope interfacing, and for the suggestions, many of which suggested contacting my local Nikon rep.
I would be perfectly happy to use Nikon parts, after all, I'm trying to arrange a marriage between a Nikon camera and a Nikon microscope, so it shouldn't be THAT difficult.
Unfortunately, in my country there is no direct Nikon presence, only local representatives, but one company handles cameras, another handles microscopes, so the question of their interfacing kind of falls into a small but deep void.
If any expert from Nikon is reading this list, I would be grateful if they would reply to me directly, so that we could engage in a constructive dialogue.
thanx
rtch
} } Hi } } We have a Nikon Labophot-POL microscope. } } In its trinocular head there sits a CF PL 5X Projection lens, above } that is a Microflex HFX-IIA Photomicrographic Attachment, and onto } that is a "35mm camera adapter A", then what is called in the } HFX-IIA manual a "Motorized dark box FX-35WA". The latter looks more } like a camera body to me. } } We want to be able to mount our Nikon D 1 body onto the microscope, } with or without the HFX-IIA, whatever it takes. } } Is there anyone out there who can tell, from the above, what I need } to do to acheive this? } } I would have thought that all we need to do would be to mount the D } 1 body directly onto the trinocular vertical tube, but then I know } almost nothing about light microscopy. }
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I just read Gib Ahistrand's short in "Microscopy Today" about cleaning rolls in a laser printer. When I have problems with rubber rolls, either ink jet printers or laser printers, I rub the rubber with a lintless cloth moistened with isopropanol. It removes the "shine" that Gib is talking about. It definitely fixes the problem on inkjet printers where the paper will not feed from the stack. -Scott
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Maybe try fast freezing plus freeze substitution? Either high pressure freezing or slam freezing? This might better capture the membrane in its native state. Then a freeze sub into osmium tetroxide in acetone should give good contrast to the membrane.
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I am organizing a Leica confocal user/administrator listserver in order to facilitate and encourage dialogue regarding the problems, idiosyncrasies and use of the Leica SP platform for confocal and multiphoton microscopy. I am hoping that such a forum would be regarded as a logical extension of the existing microscopy listserver for Leica confocal users to voice Leica-specific questions/concerns.
A Leica LCSM/MP Listserver will allow us to archive questions and answers, and may offset some of the perceived lack of documentation regarding the software. As I have witnessed recently on the general confocal listserver, Leica is paying attention to users' sharing their dilemmas, concerns and successes. It would be advantageous for system administrators, end users and Leica representatives to continue to build momentum in this direction.
LeicaSP_LCS_MP_Users is a subscriber access list-server devoted to questions and issues unique and/or specific to the Leica SP Series Spectral Confocal and Multiphoton System.
If you would like to subscribe, please send an e-mail message to:
listserv-at-listserv.uiuc.edu
with the body of the message consisting of:
subscribe LEICASP_LCS_MP_USERS {full name}
I will be delighted to manage/maintain a Leica confocal/mp listserver resource. Let me know if you think if you have any thoughts, suggestions or concerns regarding this user forum at your convenience. Thank you.
Best Regards, Karl G.
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I work for a company in Lafayette, Louisiana and we have an interest in obtaining some SEM and TEM images of chitin isolated from crab shell waste. Particularly, I am interested if anyone knows of institutions that provide such a service, be it private or public, the cost of such services and contact information. The chitin samples we have are in a flake form about 5 - 7mm square. None of the samples are ready for imaging, so they would need to be prepared for the respective imaging processes. We would prefer the images to be in a digital format.
Thank you in advance for any information received.
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A Leica listserv already exists and the reasons for the establishment of that list several years ago were similar to those being touched upon here. Traffic on that list has been essentially nil for the past two years. This tells me one of three things: a) that nobody has any Leica-specific problems that they feel can be solved by list interaction, b) that the interaction received through the list was too limited to make the list a useful resource, or c) that the list consists of "power users" who fix their own problems. I suspect the answer is a mix of a and c. Certainly a lot of Leica systems have been installed since the list was first put together, and I am the first to admit that it was never well publicized, partly for reasons that may become apparent below.
If you desire to move forward with establishment of this list (and I am not discouraging you from doing so), then I would ask you to consider a few points regarding how listservs work and who stands to benefit from the list. 1) is the list set up as "reply to all" or "reply to sender"? 2) can anyone subscribe (it would appear so) and post, or can only those people with legitimate interests in Leica systems subscribe? 3) will Leica monitor the list? will they respond to posts to the list? These two items are important. With the earlier (still existing) list, the answers are "yes" and "no". I hope you can achieve a "yes" for both questions, but you must at least achieve a "yes" for the first question, otherwise it can be a needlessly unpleasant experience for the company itself - very much a blindside tackle. If people simply want to talk about how terrible tech support or service can be, then the list is pretty useless (witness current BioRad postings) - everyone knows this is a sore point with virtually every fancy piece of equipment sold from microscopes to FACS machines. We don't need "venting" lists, particularly if the people who should be "vented upon" are not listening (if they were, we wouldn't be venting now would we??).
We are about to have a new SP2-MP-UV system installed here. My prediction is that the learning curve on this system will be no steeper than that on the TCS-NT system - fairly shallow but with a few specific headaches (really just finding out which buttons to push when). What would really be useful is a list for people who still have older instruments (e.g., TCS4D) on which the learning curve is not only very steep but also for which the repository of that knowledge is a handful of people worldwide. The final point I would like to bring up is that the hardware/software configurations of the various Leica machines sold over the years (even just SP/SP2 series) can be very different, so it can be dangerous to generalize.
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Hi all, We have been using our Gatan duo mill for some time now with a copper exhaust line on the rotary pump. It has worked fine, but now we have someone who would like to use the iodine guns and I am wondering if we should use a copper exhaust line with a corrosive gas like iodine. Does anyone know if copper is an appropriate material to use for an exhaust line when milling with iodine? Any additional pointers for milling with iodine? TIA. Greg
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It is difficult to answer the question Maxine Daws raised about the operation of the gun and comumn valves in her electron microscope without having a diagram of the vacuum system; however, operating procedures for a variety of different vacuum systems (with a variety of different kinds of pumps) are described in some detail in Chapter 9 of my book 'Vacuum Methods in Electron Microscopy' (see http://www.2spi.com/catalog/books/book48.html and http://pup.princeton.edu/titles/6484.html, for a description). If you were to read this chapter, I believe that you could figure out what the proper operating sequence might be. Otherwise, Maxine, if you will send me a diagram of your system I will see if I can answer your question.
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For the heck of it I did a quick & dirty EDS (thin window detector) on some old carbon and Ag paint spots, no idea of who distributed this paint. The carbon had significant peaks at C, O & P. The Ag had significant peaks at Ag, C & S. The only surprise to me was the P peak with the carbon paint. The S on the Ag spot probably came from Ag tarnishing in air. For what its worth..... Bruce Bruce Cutler, Ph.D. Director, Microscopy & Electronic Imaging Lab University of Kansas
} } Hi Y'All, } } I'm interested to know what exactly is left behind after Ag (or C) } } paint (used as an electrical contact on a sample stub) has dried. I have } } used this method of attaching samples to holders in ultra high vacuum } } systems and after the paint is thoroughly dried there is no outgassing in } } uhv to 10-10 torr. However, I wondered if anyone has any idea what the } } remaining constituents or composition of the paint would be after drying. } } } } Thanks in advance, } } } } Steve } } } } Steve Buckingham } } Dir. of Process Development } } Excellatron Solid State LLC } } 1640 Roswell Street, Suite J } } Smyrna, GA 30080 } } phone 770 438 2201 } } fax 617 812 5920
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You need an activated carbon trap between your mechanical pump and your turbo. When I was at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, students on two occasions left the iodine gun valves open. They destroyed the mechanical pump springs and rendered it useless. I found out that we were not the only ones that this happened to. Gatan fixed a bunch of mechanical pumps under warranty and came up with a fix -a carbon trap with a sight glass on the mechanical pump side. (Our second pump failure was not covered.) Inside the tube where you could see, there was a silver strip that would change to black when the trap got saturated. You regenerated the trap by replacing the charge because otherwise you would be getting iodine into the mechanical pump. I would worry that copper might react similarly to iodine as the silver. The iodine does come out the exhaust of the mechanical pump.
I thought that the fix was rather expensive at the time, but it did work. You could probably get a zeolite trap and replace the zeolite with activated carbon from a pet store that sells aquarium supplies. Ten years ago, Gatan wanted $90 for a charge of activated carbon (about a quart jar). You could get twice that amount at a pet store for less than $10.
-Scott
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-----Original Message----- } From: Greg Strout [mailto:stro8031-at-msmailhub.oulan.ou.edu] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 5:17 PM To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
Hi all, We have been using our Gatan duo mill for some time now with a copper exhaust line on the rotary pump. It has worked fine, but now we have someone who would like to use the iodine guns and I am wondering if we should use a copper exhaust line with a corrosive gas like iodine. Does anyone know if copper is an appropriate material to use for an exhaust line when milling with iodine? Any additional pointers for milling with iodine? TIA. Greg
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I think you need to check your supply of paints. I never had anything behind C and O on carbon paint, do not remember S on Ag either.
Vladimir
} } For the heck of it I did a quick & dirty EDS (thin window } detector) on some old } carbon and Ag paint spots, no idea of who distributed this } paint. The carbon had } significant peaks at C, O & P. The Ag had significant peaks } at Ag, C & S. The } only surprise to me was the P peak with the carbon paint. The } S on the Ag spot } probably came from Ag tarnishing in air. } For what its worth..... } Bruce } Bruce Cutler, Ph.D. } Director, Microscopy & Electronic Imaging Lab } University of Kansas } } } } } Hi Y'All, } } } I'm interested to know what exactly is left behind } after Ag (or C) } } } paint (used as an electrical contact on a sample stub) has } dried. I have } } } used this method of attaching samples to holders in ultra } high vacuum } } } systems and after the paint is thoroughly dried there is } no outgassing in } } } uhv to 10-10 torr. However, I wondered if anyone has any } idea what the } } } remaining constituents or composition of the paint would } be after drying. } } } } } } Thanks in advance, } } } } } } Steve } } } } } } Steve Buckingham } } } Dir. of Process Development } } } Excellatron Solid State LLC } } } 1640 Roswell Street, Suite J } } } Smyrna, GA 30080 } } } phone 770 438 2201 } } } fax 617 812 5920 } } } } } }
I suggest that you try Structural Research Inc. in Mobil, Alabama, (205) 649-9740. They come recommended although I have no personal experience with them.
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Isn't it true some roughing pumps that are intended for this type of application are teflon coated internally for a barrier from corrosive gases?
Scott: By the way, the springs in that pump could have been replaced...
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I was analyzing a situation where some electroless (Cu bath that plates w/o electricity) copper plate was peeling away from a copper substrate.
I have to clues. Oxidation and small blisters.
When I do a tape test I get a continuous sheet of electroless Cu on the back of the tape and also a fresh surface of the Cu substrate. The first clue is that with the naked eye you can see oxidation on both surfaces. To me this means there must have been trapped Oxidation during the plating process. Using SEM/EDS at low and medium kV, I did not observe any contamination on either surface, just very thin oxidation.
The next clue was that when I took a photomicrograph with the polarity of the Everhart and Thornley detector inverted I see a two types of topographies. I see the expected micro-etch of the Cu substrate, but also smooth bumps at 5-10 microns, as if the electroless plated some droplets. I think these droplets are really blisters that occurred at very beginning of the plating process. I feel that the blister cause the poor adhesion. I am not sure what caused the blisters, maybe internal stress in the plated deposit together with oxidized or very thin organic contamination of the substrate. Or possibly gas evolution. The substrate has a very even etch topography across the surface, no bumps. I would gladly e-mail these images to anyone interested in seeing this unexpected use of a replicated surface. I would also appreciate any comments.
We are looking into buying a Nikon coolpix 995 digital camera to be used to take mostly brightfield images in a Zeiss Axioplan microscope. So I would like to know how good this camera is for photomicrography. I also found out Nikon has a new coolpix 5000 in the market. Does anyone have good experience with this new one for our kind of application ?
Thanks a lot,
Soumitra
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I would like to receive any information about review papers on the basic principles of histochemical techniques. I am quite interested to receive references of papers on the basic characteristics of a histochemical method (reproducibility, specificity etc).
Many thanks.
Fabio Grizzi Scientific Direction Istituto Clinico HUMANITAS Milan, Italy
I would like to get in touch with Tina to ask her a question. I cannot seem to find her email address. Can anyone help?
Better yet, Tina, if you're listening, could you please reply?
Thanks.
Paula.
Paula Allan-Wojtas Research Scientist - Food Microstructure Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada Atlantic Food and Horticulture Research Centre Kentville, Nova Scotia Canada B4N 1J5
There is no such thing... Recently we have more and more spams and hoaxes, unfortunately. This virus warning (and the others) is a big fat hoax (http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/buddylst.zip.html), only just for clogging the net, generating chain-mails... If you receive any "Important-Virus warning" in the future, please check the Symantec page for hoaxes first (http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html). Don't forward these messages automatically, especially not for lists or discussion forums... Regards,
Imre
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"Histological and Histochemical Methods" by John Kiernan
Most (all?) editions of "Cell and Tissue Biology" by Leon Weiss (editor) have a nice chapter on histochemistry by Helen Padykula.
Grizzi Fabio ICH wrote:
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Question: My daughter and I have come across a most curious pond-water creature that we can't identify in any of our books. It is large - about 400 um in diameter and round. It has movable internal organs that move food around - especially two pincer-like claws that appear to be macerating captured food. It therefore must be an animal - no cilia are apparent. It has a unique method of feeding: it unfolds a clear satalite-dish-like catchers mit with which it directs passing prey into it's mouth area. It can quickly retract the antena array when touched or jolted. What is this marvelous thing?
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Question: I would like to know what is the correct setup for a wide illumination in a confocal microscopy arrangement, that is, what optics should i use in the path of the laser, if i want to get the maximum illuminated area through my objective, the setting is as follows: laser-collimated beam- dichroic mirror-objective-illuminated surface. (p.s I thought of using a short focusing lens that will focus half way through the objective so maybe that will give me a wide illumination on the surface, and/or maybe a diffuser to go along with it?)
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Question: Is Balsam still considered a good mounting medium? If so, can it be kept fluid enough to apply by adding Xylol to it? I am curious about this as I want to make some mounts of insect structures. I know about Permount, but I wanted to try the older Balsam method.By the way,I got my BS in Biology in 1967 from Towson University.
It sounds to me very much like a rotifer: these are very common, and can survive considerable desiccation, and so are often found in roof gutters (where I remember finding them). I would guess that the "satellite dish" is the ciliated "wheel" from which the phylum gets its name - I think that the cilia are either moving too fast or simply too small to be seen at whatever magnification you are using. This generates a current, and I remember as a boy watching green spherical algae being sucked in and macerated.
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I am trying to find out what has been recently published in the field of ink-jet materials (dyes, pigments) using transmission electron microscopy. If you know of any reviews or research articles on this specific subject I would appreciate your feedback!
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Dear expert microscopist, I'm a very beginner with SEM imaging and particularly with EDS Microanalysis. I'm trying to work with my own standard (Oxford ME-....) and the standard-loading job is not quite simple for me. I've got I few questions tha you might find stupid but I would appreciate any help!!! 1) The SEM is a LEO 4400 2) I work with geological sample 3) The EDS software package is ISIS 300 4) What are the best conditions for loasing the standard? i.e. 15 or 20 Kv EHT? 600 ma I-Probe or more? 50 or 100 sec. Preset Time? I have mostly pure metals and compounds plus Natural Albite, Ortoclase and Wollastonite. 5) Once I've performed the calibration using Cobalt, must I fix the counts per second to the same value I obtained for the Cobalt for any further standard acquisition? 6) Before preparing the element profiles, what's the best way to strip peaks away from the spectrum: basic strip or advanced strip? This is particularly important for silicates where Si, Al and Na peaks are close (i.e. whithin the -600/+600 ev energy windows). 7) How can I perform deconvolution of peaks (Si and Al) before saving the profiles? Is it possible to "erase" unwanted peaks from the standard spectrum without altering the background? Thank You for any answer or suggestion. I will appreciate. Melina Meli
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Hi all,
I have been asked to remove a specimen from a sem stub turn it over and photograph the other side. The specimen is an organically preserved plant fossil and very fragile, it is attached to the sem stub using double sided black tape called STR tape made by Shinto Chemitron Co. Ltd. I have tried soaking a piece of the tape in acetone and also in ethanol to see if this would dissolve the tape. Neither did anything and the tape is still sticky. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
Jo Shrapnel Environmental Biology Adelaide University
Dear Listers, As my wife and I drove and hiked around the Northeast one last time to see the fall colors before driving across from New York to California, I thought of the differences among what could be seen while walking, driving, and flying. It occurred to me that these modes of transportation differed in rates by roughly factors of ten: a brisk walk is about 2 m/s; a leisurely drive is about 20 m/s; an airliner travels at about 200 m/s. As I thought further, I realized that a weather satellite at a height of about 1000 km would have an orbital speed of about 2 km/s, and scanning through a TEM grid looking for suitably crystallized outer mitochondrial membranes would happen at a speed of about 2 um/s. (I can examine the ~10 cm screen at 40 kx in about 1 s.). Also, a trip across the solar system at 0.01 c would take about a day. Other possibilities for filling in this series could be the scan speed of AFM on one end and the rate that the Hubble telescope can record a field for the deep field survey at the other. (Someone knowledgeable in astronomy could calculate the apparent speed by figuring how much distance is represented by the angular width of the Hubble field of view at a depth of 10^10 light-years and dividing by the exposure time.) Can we put together a complete list of powers-of-ten speeds, along with how these can be realized and what typically can be seen? I'll start.
?? AFM individual atoms 2 um/s TEM organelles 2 m/s walk individual rocks, trees, streams, etc. 20 m/s drive mountains, lakes, forests, etc. 200 m/s fly mountain ranges, storms, deserts, etc 2 km/s orbit weather patterns, continents 200 Mm/s ion drive? solar system ?? Hubble scan quasar field I hope you will have as much fun with this as I have. Yours, Bill Tivol
I'm not familiar with that particular product, but adhesives that remain sticky (rather than dry out) usually respond very well to naptha. Lighter fluid for zippo type cigarette lighters contains naptha and is an inexpensive and readily available source.
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Hi all,
I have been asked to remove a specimen from a sem stub turn it over and photograph the other side. The specimen is an organically preserved plant fossil and very fragile, it is attached to the sem stub using double sided black tape called STR tape made by Shinto Chemitron Co. Ltd. I have tried soaking a piece of the tape in acetone and also in ethanol to see if this would dissolve the tape. Neither did anything and the tape is still sticky. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
Jo Shrapnel Environmental Biology Adelaide University
Dear all Most photographers are only too aware that flash intensity diminishes according to the square of the distance to the subject, making it difficult to use flash for distance photogrpahy with a lens or telescope. Some years ago I considered the possibility of illuminating a subject viewed with a telescope or telephoto lens by using the same optics to focus an electronic flash on the subject. A problem was how short would the flash duration have to be for the all illuminating light to have left the optics before image-forming light started to come back. I concluded that for an object distance of 50m, i.e. a total light-path of 100m, would be about a third of a microsecond, and gave up at that point, having no way of generating flashes that short.
An orders of magnitude table (in 3-orders of magnitude steps) for distance travelled by a light flash looks like this: 1 second 300,000 km 1 millisecond 300 km (this is typical electronic flash duration) 1 microsecond 300 m 1 nanosecond 0.3 m 1 picosecond 0.3 mm 1 femtosecond 0.3 µm (30nm)
so a light "beam" of 1 femtosecond duration, such as can be produced by lasers, is in fact a light disc!
Not a lot of people know that :-) Best wishes Chris
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Joanne
Chloroform appears to soften our sticky tape and its adhesive within a few minutes - if you have any spare STR tape you could try it first. It should be easy to separate the sample then. However I don't know whether chloroform will damage your sample, you will probably need to rinse the surface of the sample with fresh solvent and remember to use the chloroform in the fume hood.
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Joanne Colmer wrote: } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ } The Microscopy ListServer -- Sponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- Send Email to ListServer-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com } On-Line Help http://www.msa.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } -----------------------------------------------------------------------. } } Hi all, } } I have been asked to remove a specimen from a sem stub turn it over and } photograph the other side. } The specimen is an organically preserved plant fossil and very fragile, } it is attached to the sem stub using double sided black tape called STR } tape made by Shinto Chemitron Co. Ltd. } I have tried soaking a piece of the tape in acetone and also in ethanol } to see if this would dissolve the tape. } Neither did anything and the tape is still sticky. } Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated } } Jo Shrapnel } Environmental Biology } Adelaide University
Dear Colleagues, A colleague of mine, working on a thesis in pathology is looking for review papers on the application of confocal microscopy in cancer research, diagnosis and prognosis. Can anyone cite useful recent references for him, or possesses or has authored a favored reference? many thanks, Jeremy Sanderson
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First posting to the list. I originally posted this on Sci.techniques.microscopy but was advised that better response may be obtained here. I'm a post doc reseacher at the Uni of B'Ham, UK.
I was wondering whether anybody had any experince of using colloidal gold in ESEM. I wish to visualise fungal extracellular matrices released onto glass or plastic surfaces in "wet" mode. If any body has any advice on this, or has used colloidal gold in ESEM and can pass on a few tips it would be most appreciated.
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Jo Shrapnel wrote: ======================================================= I have been asked to remove a specimen from a sem stub turn it over and photograph the other side. The specimen is an organically preserved plant fossil and very fragile, it is attached to the sem stub using double sided black tape called STR tape made by Shinto Chemitron Co. Ltd. I have tried soaking a piece of the tape in acetone and also in ethanol to see if this would dissolve the tape. Neither did anything and the tape is still sticky. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated ======================================================== The adhesive system will not really "dissolve" in any common solvents. It can be swollen and loosened, such as in chloroform, which can aid in its removal, but it will not actually be dissolved away in the traditional sense . For a flat surface often times such solvent treatment is enough but for your kind of sample, I would trust it would not be enough.
But in a sense you are fortuante in that your sample of interest is not organic but is in fact inorganic in nature. You should be able to put it into a small glass petri dish, without cover, contaminating adhesive side "up", and then using an oxygen plasma, such as would be generated in the SPI Supplies® Plasma Prep™ II plasma etcher, the organics should be etched away and the substrate (relatively) untouched. I say "relatively" because eventually, in the limit, the oxygen will cause changes in the substrate, but the etch rate for the organic adhesive is many times faster than for the inorganic substrate. So you want to be careful to etch only to the extend you need to etch and to try not etching beyond that point.
Special note and disclaimer: SPI Supplies manufactures the Plasma Prep II plasma etcher so we would naturally have a vested interest in expanding its use. However, the same physics found in the SPI Plasma Prep II unit also exist in several other table-top systems being manufactured such as by Denton Vacuum and Polaron (Now Quorum Technologies, formerly, VG Microtech). More about the Plasma Prep II plasma etcher can be found at URL http://www.2spi.com/catalog/instruments/etchers1.html
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as there was a little interest in the Leonid meteors on this list server last week I thought would report my observations from Ayers Rock, Australia.
Central Australia was expected to be reasonably placed to observe the peak activity early on Monday morning, Nov 19th. The sky was clear and dark from sunset to sunrise and relatively warm (about 16°C). From the sand dunes I spent a very pleasant 5 or 6 hours under the stars and counted approximately 300 meteors in the first 90 minutes. After that the rate was too great to keep count. I estimate seeing approximately 2000 to 3000 meteors, with many others that I missed because I was looking the wrong way at the time. I can well imagine whiplash injuries being commonplace amongst those of us fortunate enough to be in the right place at the right time with the right weather conditions.
By comparison, the next morning I saw only 8 meteors in 90 minutes, and only 2 of these were Leonids.
Nestor, I managed to capture a few meteors in photos (one 15 minute exposure has over 20 meteors visible on the print). I'll bring some of the better ones to Adelaide. Cheers,
Mark Blackford Materials Division, ANSTO PMB 1, Menai, N.S.W., 2234 Australia
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} From: Maike Andersson [m.andersson-at-t-online.de] Sent: Mittwoch, 14. November 2001 21:27 To: Microscopy
I am trying to characterize the water pathway in plant tissue by the water soluble, apoplastic tracer sulforhodamin. In order to prevent secondary movement of the tracer, I want to freeze substitute under anhydrous conditions prior to embeddment in Spurr. What substitution media do you recommend? Does polar acetone lead to loss or secondary movement of the tracer? Is apolar diethylether a better choice and how can I overcome the very slow rewarming protocols of it? Thanks in advance
Maike Andersson Institut for Applied Botany Hamburg / Germany
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I've never looked at colloidal gold in an ESEM before, although I've imaged it in a FESEM, but my immediate reaction is that you would have two things working against you. One is that to image a wet or uncoated sample, you would have to introduce sufficient gas into the chamber to seriously degrade your resolution. The second is that you need to use the backscatter detector to image the gold particles, as you know, which again is significantly lower resolution than the secondary imaging mode. With these two resolution-losers combined, I seriously doubt that you could image gold particles down into the nanometer range.
But, that said, I always tell people that only way to really know for sure is to try. But, is there some compelling reason why the sample must be viewed in "wet" mode, or for that mattter, in an SEM at all? Is there a reason not label and embed your samples for TEM?
Good luck, Randy Tindall EM Core University of Missouri Columbia, MO
-----Original Message----- } From: Steve Thomas To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com Sent: 11/22/01 10:28 AM
Hello,
First posting to the list. I originally posted this on Sci.techniques.microscopy but was advised that better response may be obtained here. I'm a post doc reseacher at the Uni of B'Ham, UK.
I was wondering whether anybody had any experince of using colloidal gold in ESEM. I wish to visualise fungal extracellular matrices released onto glass or plastic surfaces in "wet" mode. If any body has any advice on this, or has used colloidal gold in ESEM and can pass on a few tips it would be most appreciated.
Regards
Steve Thomas
********************************* Dr Steve Thomas School Of Biosciences The University of Birmingham Edgbaston Birmingham B15 2TT 0121 414 5573 Email: S.Thomas-at-bham.ac.uk
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Question: Hi. I recently purchased a Vickers M171237 (Patholux???). It is a compound "research " type similar to the Leitz Orthomat. It has a quick change 5 objective nose, digital readout, substage and epi lighting, plus a box under the binocular with a beamsplitter, pol, and other optics I am unfamiliar with. I am restoring my Vickers for daily usage. I am looking for technical information, and user or repair guides. I completely disassembled, cleaned, reassembled, and adjusted an AO MicroStar, but this microscope is far more complicated. If you know of any resources, it would be greatly apreceated. Thanks, Bob
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Is there any direct way to quantitatively determine and measure the actual spot size of a SEM beam?
Given various KV, WD, final aperture sizes, condenser lens settings, etc., is there a way to truly find out what the real spot size is on the specimen?
In TEM we measure the actual contamination spot "burned" into the carbon film by the beam. I use a grid with calibration spheres for reference. With the appropriate organic film, a similar technique could work with SEM in spot mode?? I'm not sure how much accuracy you're looking for, but it might give you an idea.
Matt
Matthew J. Lynn Center for Advanced Microscopy University of Miami (305)284-4736 mlynn-at-miami.edu
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Gary, One technique I've seen used is to mount an aperture over a hole (on carbon is best), or better yet, a thinned foil for a sharper edge, and use a line-profile mode to scan across after focussing at a very high mag. Absorbed current can be used instead of secondary for a signal, although the latter works well, especially on a thinned foil. The curve you get will resemble a rise-time curve and can be treated in a similar manner. Mark the 10% and 90% rise points on the curve, then measure the horizontal distance between those two points in units appropriate for the mag. This is generally considered to be the beam diameter given the Gaussian distribution of electrons across the beam.
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Email: twiinie-at-aolcom Name: Brett Chamberlin
Education: 6-8th Grade Middle School
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Question: We recently purchased a fairly old Bushnell Microscope. It is all metal construction with a service sticker. The service sticker reads a last serviced date of 1986.
Where might I find a manual and/or some instruction on the features of this microscope. There are some attachments that I do not understand the function of.
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Any calculation would require factors specific for any one make of instrument. Anyway, doing it experimentally is more fun. Microanalysts need to know the actual location of the spot on the specimen and for that observe the beam spot on a daily basis. For WDS an SEM needs among other accessories a light microscope. With that and with the beam on a fluorescent mineral the beam spot is readily visible.
Usually in SEM the spot is busy scanning, so spot mode is required and for that the SEM scan coils are switched off. (Also, turn down fluorescent screen/ monitors, to avoid burn-marks. With a graticule in the eyepiece and micron- step stage movements the beam can be measured, but . . . For small spots, suitable fo