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From: David Burton :      dburton-at-nwlink.com
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 07:59:16 -0800
Subject: Re: lamp stability problems in time-lapse

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Hi Doug,

Because the lamp in mounted in this microscope with the socket up, large
amounts of heat are concentrated in the lampsocket. You are also drawing a
lot of current through the connections. Check the cables that connect the
power supply to the lamp, there are two, a long one and a short one. You
are looking for damage to the connectors, four of them. Changing these
cables or assuring that the contacts are clean and tight may solve the
problem.

Dave Burton



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From: White, Woody N. :      nwwhite-at-mcdermott.com
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 11:04:47 -0600
Subject: RE: lamp stability problems in time-lapse

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Don't know if anyone makes something commercially, but a lamp current
control based on feedback from sampling the light intensity should do it.

Woody

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} We have an Olympus IMT-2 set up for time lapse imaging using
} DIC. During
} our over-night exposures we find that the lamp does not
} provide consistent
} illumination, dimming occasionally. This makes for somewhat
} less than
} satisfactory movies. Is there a way we could make the lamp
} more stable?
}
} Details: 50W tungsten bulb, electrical power goes through a
} UPS before it
} enters the microscope, the lamp is typically at a setting of
} about 10/12 on
} the LCD, I will concede that the UPS is old & I'm unsure of
} the state of
} the batteries, although I'm inclined more to believe its the
} lamp or lamp
} housing.
}
} Thanks for your comments.
}
} Doug
}
} ....................................................................
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From: James Pawley :      jbpawley-at-facstaff.wisc.edu
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 13:09:50 -0600
Subject: Re: LM: lamp stability problems in time-lapse

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I agree with Gary Gaugler in general but, if you only need to power a
50w light source, a good, adjustable, regulated power supply for this
alone (12 volts, 5 amps???) can be obtained for much less than $500.
Just run the lamp directly from this.

Jim P.



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From: DrJohnRuss-at-aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 15:30:09 EST
Subject: micron bars in Photoshop

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There has been a recent thread discussing methods for using Photoshop to
place micron markers on micrographs. One thing that people seemed to want was
a method to directly use the (presumably known) image magnification to create
the final result. In response, I've created a plug-in for Photoshop (and
compatible programs) that does this. You enter the magnification of the image
(e.g., 1000x), the dpi with which it was acquired (e.g., 300 dpi for your
scanner, or the corresponding pixel spacing for your camera), and the length
of the bar you desire (in microns), and the program draws and labels the bar
in the lower right corner of the image using the selected foreground and
background colors. Using a Photoshop action, you can easily apply this
procedure to an entire folder of images.

This plug-in is freely downloadable for use on either Mac or Windows
computers from the ReindeerGraphics web site, at
{http://www.reindeergraphics.com/free.html#entermag} . It can be used on 8 and
16 bit grey scale images or 24 or 48 bit RGB color images. While it is
compatible with the Fovea Pro and Image Processing Tool Kit software, it does
not require them (but please do see what other kinds of processing and
measurement are available when you visit the web site).

If you have comments on the plug-in, or urgent needs for other features or
capabilities, please let me know.

John Russ
John_Russ-at-NCSU.edu



From daemon Sat Feb 2 16:31:25 2002



From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2002 14:26:35 -0800
Subject: Re: LM: lamp stability problems in time-lapse

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Very good point, Jim. Yes indeed. For one little lamp,
a regulated DC supply will do nicely. I use these myself
as well. The only area of concern, or potential difficulty,
is mating the lamp itself to the supply. If I recall the
IMT-2 correctly, it has a separate lamp house with
interconnecting cable to the un-regulated AC supply
in the stand. She would either have to find a mating
connector to affix to the DC supply or whack off the
current connector and do whatever is necessary to
mate with the DC supply. Either way, it is definitely
cheaper than a dual conversion UPS.

Powerware makes lower VA rating units, down to
I think 500 VA. These units are a few hundred dollars.
I used to use DC supplies for 'scope lamps but with
all of the bad power problems last year here in California,
the dual conversion UPS solved many problems. I got
way larger units than I probably needed, only to ensure
long backup time.

A good source of supply for various DC supplies is
http://www.digikey.com

By all means, do not get a B&K 10Amp unit. It has
a soft start over-current feature which will trip with
a halogen lamp. When cold, they have low resistance
and have high starting current. I found out the hard
way about the B&K.

gary g.



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From: Gordon Couger :      gcouger-at-couger.com
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 00:29:36 -0600
Subject: Re: lamp stability problems in time-lapse

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Kelly,

Try http://www.carnoy.org/ - you can download Carnoy program from this web
site. Carnoy is $15 shareware. It is written at Katholieke Universiteit
Leuven, in Netherlands http://www.kuleuven.ac.be .

First you have to calibrate the software for a particular instrument by
measuring known features of images taken with calibration sample at various
magnifications. Result of each measurement has to be written into the menu
along with the magnification value. Once set, use of the program becomes
simple. Just open the image file, then open the menu, choose magnification
value, length unit (from kilometer to nanometer- it will also work for
maps), number of units (length of the scale bar), and appearance of the
scale bar and characters (color, height, and location), and click OK.
Program will automatically superimpose scale bar and a legend on the image.
All these things can be set as default. Then only 3 clicks will put scale
bar on the image (open menu, choose mag., click OK).

You can undo the scale bar before the image file is saved, but once saved,
scale bar becomes part of the image.

Other features will allow you to define and count particles, measure
perimeters and densities, and convert image files into various formats back
and forth.

The only inconvenience which I encountered while using Carnoy software was
somewhat different response of the controls, as compared with expected
response of a standard Windows program. But technical support via e-mail was
adequate.

Disclaimer: SIA does not have any financial interest in Carnoy software. We
are just satisfied customers.

Vitaly Feingold
Scientific Instruments and Applications
2773 Heath Lane, Duluth GA 30096
(770)232-7785 ph.
(770)232-1791 fax
(678)467-0012 mobile

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You can get power supplies that have sensing circuits built in them. I would
require some interface circuitry to be build to lock the power supply to the
light output.

Gordon

Gordon Couger
Stillwater, OK
www.couger.com/gcouger

} From: "White, Woody N." {nwwhite-at-mcdermott.com}

: Don't know if anyone makes something commercially, but a lamp current
: control based on feedback from sampling the light intensity should do it.
:
: Woody
:
: } -----Original Message-----
: } From: Doug Cromey [mailto:Cromey-at-Arizona.edu]
: } Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 4:04 PM
: } To: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
: } Subject: LM: lamp stability problems in time-lapse
: }
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: }
: } Listers,
: }
: } We have an Olympus IMT-2 set up for time lapse imaging using
: } DIC. During
: } our over-night exposures we find that the lamp does not
: } provide consistent
: } illumination, dimming occasionally. This makes for somewhat
: } less than
: } satisfactory movies. Is there a way we could make the lamp
: } more stable?
: }
: } Details: 50W tungsten bulb, electrical power goes through a
: } UPS before it
: } enters the microscope, the lamp is typically at a setting of
: } about 10/12 on
: } the LCD, I will concede that the UPS is old & I'm unsure of
: } the state of
: } the batteries, although I'm inclined more to believe its the
: } lamp or lamp
: } housing.
: }
: } Thanks for your comments.
: }
: } Doug
: }
: } ....................................................................
: } : Douglas W. Cromey, M.S. Dept. of Cell Biology & Anatomy :
: } : Research Specialist, Principal University of Arizona :
: } : (office: AHSC 4212A) P.O. Box 245044 :
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: } : (FAX: 520-626-2097) (email: Cromey-at-Arizona.edu) :
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From daemon Sun Feb 3 03:29:57 2002



From: alan stone :      as-at-astonmet.com
Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 09:31:32 -0600
Subject: Re: LM: lamp stability problems in time-lapse

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After doing a bit of searching myself, I posted a request to a mailing list for The Gimp, asking how one might write a script to enter scale bars, using existing images at various magnifications. The Gimp (GNU Image Manipulation Program) is a free software project that works on GNU/Linux or Windoze, I think, as well as Mac OS/X, I think also. It is highly capable.

I wanted to show that there are other ways to do things than the old, hackneyed solutions.

Alan Davis

Begin forwarded message:




We had a similar problem with a metallograph. As it turned out, the dealer
included bulbs with oxidized leads. This led to arcing and subsequent
damage to the socket. We polished the contacting surfaces in the socket,
sputter coated them with gold, returned the old bulbs to the dealer and
purchased bulbs from another dealer with newer stock. The illumination is
stable and we haven't replaced a bulb in many years.



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From: Xianglin Li :      Xianglin_Li-at-student.uml.edu
Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 08:53:57 -0800
Subject: About some Parameters of III-V semiconductor

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Hi, all

I am looking for some parameters of III-V semiconductors. If you can
help me, I will very appreciate for that.

1. Melting point of AlSb.
2. Hardness (on the Mohs scale) of GaN, AlSb, and InSb.

Thanks in advance!

Sincerely yours,
Xianglin

Center for Advanced Material
Department of Chemical Engineering
University of Massachusetts, Lowell
Xianglin_Li-at-student.uml.edu
Tel: 978-934-3411




From daemon Sun Feb 3 15:36:29 2002



From: gtg457a-at-prism.gatech.edu ()
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 15:18:36 -0600
Subject: Ask-A-Microscopist: project pertaining to electron microscopy

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Below is the result of your feedback form (NJZFM-ultra-55). It was
submitted by (gtg457a-at-prism.gatech.edu) from
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February 3, 2002 at 12:54:22
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Email: gtg457a-at-prism.gatech.edu
Name: Christal Moore

Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Education: Undergraduate College

Location: Atlanta, GA USA

Question: My group in a class is working on a project pertaining to
electron microscopy. We do know that current imaging methods either
have lower spatial resolution or lack the temporal acquisition
capability. We are looking to for a new method or a new way of using
existing ones that would have spatial resolution sufficient for
depicting the smallest possible cellular structures, and temporal
resolution suitable for visualizing as many cellular processes as
possible. We have just begun researching electron microscopy and do
not know that much about it, such as to why are there are obstacles
with the spatial resolution and temporal resolution? Do you know of
any new methods you could share with the group, or perhaps a good
staring point for us to being searching? Also, is it possible to
view cellular processes? What are the steps for doing so? Do you
suggest any other experts to contact? Thank you for your time.

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From daemon Sun Feb 3 18:37:01 2002



From: pcy :      pcy-at-usc.edu
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 16:29:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Propidium iodide staining 4 confocal

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We are hoping to stain the nuclei of polychaete worm larvae with
propidium iodide. The problem is that due to small sample size, it's kind
of a "one-shot" deal and I have no protocol to refer to for concentrations
of stain to use. I've searched the web and found protocols saying
everything between 0.5mg/ml for sea urchin larvae to 1 micromolar for
Xenopus embryos. Should we err on the side of excess and go with the
really high concentration?

Background prep info:
fixed in 4% paraformaldehyde in sea water
labeled with anti-tubulin FITC-conj. antibody

The info sheets from Molecular Probes also recommends RNAse pretreatment.
Do people have input on this?

Thanks,
Pauline Yu
Manahan Research Lab
http://www.usc.edu/manahanlab



From daemon Sun Feb 3 22:28:08 2002



From: Young W. Kim :      ywkim-at-gong.snu.ac.kr
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:57:57 -0600
Subject: About some Parameters of III-V semiconductor

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After doing a bit of searching myself, I posted a request to a mailing list for
The Gimp, asking how one might write a script to enter scale bars, using
existing images at various magnifications. The Gimp (GNU Image Manipulation
Program) is a free software project that works on GNU/Linux or Windoze, I think,
as well as Mac OS/X, I think also. It is highly capable.

I wanted to show that there are other ways to do things than the old, hackneyed
solutions.

Alan Davis

Begin forwarded message:



?Xianglin,

Melting temperature of AlSb = 1338K (J. Phys. Chem. Solids 36 (1975) p.931)
microhardness of AlSb = 413 kg /mm2 or 359 kg/mm2(From
Landolt-Bornstein, vol 17, semiconductors, Springer 1982)
Good luck.

Young W. Kim, Ph.D.
Research Professor
School of Materials Science and Engineering
Seoul National University
Kwanak-ku Shinlim-dong San 56-1
Seoul, Republic of Korea 151-744

Tel) + 82-2-880-7977
E-mail) ywkim-at-gong.snu.ac.kr

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} From: Xianglin Li [mailto:Xianglin_Li-at-student.uml.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:54 AM
To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


Hi, all

I am looking for some parameters of III-V semiconductors. If you can
help me, I will very appreciate for that.

1. Melting point of AlSb.
2. Hardness (on the Mohs scale) of GaN, AlSb, and InSb.

Thanks in advance!

Sincerely yours,
Xianglin

Center for Advanced Material
Department of Chemical Engineering
University of Massachusetts, Lowell
Xianglin_Li-at-student.uml.edu
Tel: 978-934-3411


From daemon Mon Feb 4 01:11:15 2002



From: pooley-at-tidewater.net ()
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:57:25 -0600
Subject: Ask-A-Microscopist:SEM digitizer?

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Below is the result of your feedback form (NJZFM-ultra-55). It was
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February 3, 2002 at 19:28:15
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Email: pooley-at-tidewater.net
Name: Alan S. Pooley, PhD

Organization: retired, volunteer at Umaine marine center

Education: Graduate College

Location: Newcastle & Walpole Maine

Question: Is there a good, relatively cheap digitizer (at least 1024
or 2048 square pixels) for the Zeiss DSM940A SEM? Company name or
web site info sought please

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From daemon Mon Feb 4 02:13:36 2002



From: Bharesh_Mandalia-at-gillette.com
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:04:54 +0000
Subject: Convert .VTI to .BMP abd vice versa

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Dear All,

I was recently sent some images for image analysis. Unfortunately they in
.VTI file format. Is there any software which can convert to .BMP or .TIF
format?

Many thanks,

Bharesh Mandalia



From daemon Mon Feb 4 06:07:02 2002



From: Ken Converse :      qualityimages-at-netrax.net
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 06:58:41 -0500
Subject: Re: solubilities of fixatives

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Rosemary,
Sometimes that information can be found in the MSDS (sorry, Material
Data Safety Sheet - required in the US) for the chemical. VWR has them
on line (probably others do, also).

Ken Converse
owner
Quality Images
third party SEM service
Delta, PA

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From daemon Mon Feb 4 06:14:05 2002



From: microscope-at-tin.it
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 13:09:00 CET
Subject: Microphotography

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Torino 04 January 2002
(Italy)

Dear microscopists,

Does anyone have a triocular LOMO head attachment MFN-11 on the microscope?
I’m a beginner and I’d like to talk about microphotography concerning:
Kind of B/W film
Focusing of specimen on the film plane inside the camera
Filters
Optical microscope setup
Exposure film time

Thank you. Kind Regards,

Massimo




From daemon Mon Feb 4 06:41:40 2002



From: Patton, David :      David.Patton-at-uwe.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 12:35:42 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
Subject: TEM of bacteriophages

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I have some qusetions about EM of bacteriophages.
They are double-stranded DNA phages for the plant
pathogenic bacterium Pseudomonas syringae.

1. Negative staining. Could someone suggest a good stain
and protocol for this type of bacteriophage?

2. Embedding in resin. The bacteriophages will be attached
to bacteria on an agar plate. Can anyone suggest a good
way to handle them. I suspect if I just cut out a piece of
agar I could lose a lot of sample during dehydration.

Thanks in advance

Dave

----------------------------------------
Patton, David
Email: David.Patton-at-uwe.ac.uk
"University of the West of England"



From daemon Mon Feb 4 06:55:25 2002



From: ATC SEM Laboratory :      atcsem-at-earthlink.net
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 07:57:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Convert .VTI to .BMP and vice versa

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I do not know any software that can do this, but you could try ctrl+print
screen to copy screen and ctrl+insert to paste the file in windows paint
program or any other program. After you insert the image crop it and save in
BMP format.
If you have any problems e-mail me.

Pavel Lozovyy
Argo-Tech SEM lab
atcsem-at-earthlink.net






From daemon Mon Feb 4 08:36:33 2002



From: michael shaffer :      rarewolf-at-roadrunner.nf.net
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 10:59:09 -0330
Subject: RE: micron bars in Photoshop

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John Russ writes ...

} ...
} ... I've created a plug-in for Photoshop (and compatible
} programs) that does this. You enter the magnification
} of the image (e.g., 1000x), the dpi with which it was acquired
} ...
}
} This plug-in is freely downloadable ... at
} {http://www.reindeergraphics.com/free.html#entermag} . ...

Thanks John. I wonder however ... what I had noticed fo a variety of
image acquisition systems, that a specific constant was needed. That is,
even for a specific SEM which indicated the magnification, I had to use a
different magnification constant depending on the acquisition software
(e.g., JEOL's own or alternative Oxford). How would your plugin address
this? (I can tell you one one method, vs the other, acquired only a portion
of the other ... e.g., the Oxford acquired a square image from the center of
the rectangular JEOL image)

My own method was to create a printable spreadsheet for my SEM users,
which (depending on acquisition method) would indicate the "length of a
selection box" for a given magnification. This also allowed for user
preferred fonts, micron-bar placement, and style (e.g., simple line,
outlined box, black on white, W/B, or color). It certainly wasn't
automatic, but it was the only way to accommodate users' presentation
preferences.

cheerios ... shAf :o)
Avalon Peninsula, Newfoundland



From daemon Mon Feb 4 08:48:40 2002



From: Heeschen, Bill (WA) :      WAHEESCHEN-at-dow.com
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 09:43:20 -0500
Subject: Re: lamp stability problems in time-lapse

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I've dealt with this problem (supply voltage fluctuation of a few volts) by
using a constant voltage transformer (SOLA). The problem with the UPS it
that it tracks the supply voltage. The only time the UPS' regulated output
kicks in is when the supply voltage disappears. My biggest complaint with
the Sola transformer is that it is mechanically noisy, so it gets annoying
to be in the area for a long time. They also put out a little electrical
noise, but if you can physically isolate the transformer and put it on a
separate circuit from your analytical instrumentation, then that shouldn't
be much of a problem. Most instrumentation has decent filtering on the
power line, anyhow.

For critical work, the light output feedback is the best, assuming you can
get a sensor mounted somewhere.

Bill
William A. Heeschen, Ph.D.
The Dow Chemical Company
Microscopy, Digital Imaging
1897 Bldg, E-84 / 2040 Bldg, 1330
waheeschen-at-dow.com
voice: 989-636-4005 fax: 989-638-6443


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} From: Gordon Couger [mailto:gcouger-at-couger.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 1:30 AM
To: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com



You can get power supplies that have sensing circuits built in them. I would
require some interface circuitry to be build to lock the power supply to the
light output.

Gordon

Gordon Couger
Stillwater, OK
www.couger.com/gcouger

} From: "White, Woody N." {nwwhite-at-mcdermott.com}

: Don't know if anyone makes something commercially, but a lamp current
: control based on feedback from sampling the light intensity should do it.
:
: Woody
:
: } -----Original Message-----
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From daemon Mon Feb 4 09:20:14 2002



From: Dusevich, Vladimir :      DusevichV-at-umkc.edu
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 09:14:22 -0600
Subject: RE: micron bars in Photoshop

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I have set of images with different magnifications
in Photoshop .psd format with additional layers
with micron bars on them. Now I can just drag and drop
layer with micron bar on new images with the same magnification
after I crop them. It works fine for me since number of
images in publications and presentations anyway is quite limited.
Of course, it is possible to use Photoshop's "automate" to
place micron bars on many images with the same magnification.

To create image with micron bar for copying:
1. create new layer
2. draw micron bar with the same length as original bar.
3. using Type Tool type N Microns (or millimeters or
whatever else), new (third) layer will be created automatically
4. make background layer invisible
5. click on layer-} merge visible
6. make background visible again
7. save in .psd format with name "Magnification M"

Vladimir

Vladimir M. Dusevich, Ph.D.
Electron Microscope Lab Manager
3127 School of Dentistry
650 E. 25th Street
Kansas City, MO 64108-2784

Phone: (816) 235-2072
Fax: (816) 235-5524
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From daemon Mon Feb 4 10:08:41 2002



From: Roberto Garcia :      rgarcia-at-unity.ncsu.edu
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:00:43 -0500
Subject: Scheduling Software

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I know that this has been asked before but I just want to see if there has
been any updated software. I would like to know what is available out there
for online scheduling of equipment. Thanks.
______________________________
Roberto Garcia
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From daemon Mon Feb 4 11:51:53 2002



From: Russell McConnell :      russell.mcconnell-at-tufts.edu
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 12:40:52 -0500
Subject: Re: Ask-A-Microscopist: project pertaining to electron microscopy

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Dear Christal,
First, let me wish your group the best of luck with this project, it is
a difficult but worthwhile undertaking. The problem with obtaining
spatial and temporal resolution is a complex one. To start I will point
out one of the fundamentals of microscopy, the Abbe equation: (I would
suggest visiting this web site for a better explanation:
http://lsvl.la.asu.edu/bio598L/notes/lightlenses/ )
resolution = (0.612 x l) / (n sin a)

l = (wavelength of light)
n = refractive index of medium between the objective lens and the
specimen.
a = the aperture angle, which is half the angle of the cone of light
from the specimen accepted by the front lens objective. This is also
called the half aperture angle.
(n sin a) is the 'numerical aperture' of a lens, and is usually printed
on the side of objectives for light microscopes.

What is important to note is that resolution is a function of
essentially two things, your lens and the light you are using. More
specifically, the wavelength of the light is related to resolution in
such a way that shorter wavelength = better resolution. Electron
microscopes achieve their remarkable spatial resolution through the use
of electrons as the 'light'. The wavelengths of visible light are in
the range of 400-700 nm; electrons have a considerably shorter
wavelength, about 0.005nm (recall that matter behaves as a particle and
also as a wave). It is because of this shorter wavelength that electron
microscopes have such excellent spatial resolution.
So, electron microscopes have excellent spatial resolution; why don't
they have temporal resolution as well? Temporal resolution is the
ability to see change over time. To see a cellular process change over
time, you must be looking at a live cell. Unfortunately, it is not
possible to do this with an electron microscope for a number of reasons
(there are probably others, but these are the most obvious, at least to
me). The first has to do with the fact that electrons are very easily
scattered when they pass into/through matter; electrons are so easily
scattered that the tube of electron microscopes must be pumped down to a
vacuum so that the air in the column doesn't scatter the electron beam!
If electrons have a hard time traveling through air, one can imagine
that the relatively denser matter of a biological specimen would be
nearly impenetrable. To make it possible for electrons to get through a
specimen, you have to cut the specimen into very thin sections. A
typical eukaryotic cell might be on the order of 10-15 microns thick;
most sections for transmission electron microscopy are around 0.1
microns thick. After sectioning a specimen, electrons will pass through
it. The challenge then becomes being able to distinguish cellular
structures. A professor of mine once compared this to looking for
chunks of clear Jell-O in a swimming pool. The problem is that
electrons (and light in general) pass through most cell components in
the same way. To get contrast you have to stain specimens with an
electron dense material, usually a heavy metal stain such as Osmium
tetroxide (OsO4). So this gives us three major reasons why living cells
hate electron microscopy:
1. specimens must be placed in a vacuum while they are being viewed
2. you have to cut the specimen into very thin sections
3. electron dense stains (such as OsO4) are usually highly toxic
None of these conditions are compatible with living cells. To make
matters even worse, it is necessary to imbed specimens in a plastic
resin for them to hold their shape during sectioning (otherwise it's a
bit like slicing a tomato with a butter knife).
For information on microscopic techniques currently in use I would
recommend the following web sites:
University of Arizona's web site list
http://swehsc.pharmacy.arizona.edu/exppath/micro/index.html
Lance Ladic's site on confocal microscopy
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/ladic/overview.html
You may also want to visit the home pages for the major microscope
manufacturers, such as Zeiss, Leica, Olympus, Nikon, BioRad, etc.
Again, best of luck to you.
--
Russell McConnell
Confocal Imaging Facility Technician
Department of Neuroscience
Tufts University School of Medicine
M&V Building room #137
136 Harrison Ave.
Boston, MA 02111
Tel. (617) 636-3795

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} electron microscopy. We do know that current imaging methods either
} have lower spatial resolution or lack the temporal acquisition
} capability. We are looking to for a new method or a new way of using
} existing ones that would have spatial resolution sufficient for
} depicting the smallest possible cellular structures, and temporal
} resolution suitable for visualizing as many cellular processes as
} possible. We have just begun researching electron microscopy and do
} not know that much about it, such as to why are there are obstacles
} with the spatial resolution and temporal resolution? Do you know of
} any new methods you could share with the group, or perhaps a good
} staring point for us to being searching? Also, is it possible to
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From daemon Mon Feb 4 12:14:35 2002



From: Curtis Olson :      COlson-at-scpglobal.com
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 11:05:37 -0700
Subject: Cross Section Thank you

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Thank you who responded to my request for help with SEM semiconductor cross sections. Many responses with excellent information.
Curtis Olson



From daemon Mon Feb 4 12:21:17 2002



From: Curtis Olson :      COlson-at-scpglobal.com
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 11:12:43 -0700
Subject: Environmental Noise Impacting JEOL 848 SEM

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I operate a JEOL 848 SEM but am limited to less than 30,000x due to at least two frequencies of external noise. The service engineers from JEOL have determined the noise is not due to the SEM. I will be conducting as much of a room survey as possible later in February but I am hoping to obtain some insight into common testing formats, noise sources, and solutions. From what I have been able to learn so far, this noise reduction is something of an art rather than science. Thank you in advance from this microscopist with much to learn.

Curtis Olson



From daemon Mon Feb 4 13:35:28 2002



From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 11:26:57 -0800
Subject: RE: lamp stability problems in time-lapse

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Sola magnetic resonance transformers are good for this
application. However, they are not cheap--especially
as their VA rating increases. And yes, they get noisy.

For critical work, I suggest either a regulated DC supply
or a dual conversion UPS. The dual conversion UPS
never "kicks in" but rather is always producing regulated
(frequency and voltage) AC from DC. The DC is either
that from rectified line voltage or from the UPS batteries.

gary g.





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From daemon Mon Feb 4 15:30:29 2002



From: Tina Carvalho :      tina-at-pbrc.hawaii.edu
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:21:55 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Nikon Coolpix vs Olympus C-3030 et al.

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Hi, All-

Have any of you compared the Nikon Coolpix 995 (or earlier) with the
Olympus C-4040 (or earlier) mounted on a light microscope? They are both
comsumer-level digital cameras with about the same technology, and so I'm
wondering if there is any reason to choose one over the other. The Olympus
has better features on paper, so I'm hoping to hear from someone who uses
one. This will be used to supplement the Magnafire SP I'm proposing to
buy, since I need a camera that will fit into the eyepiece of our
confocal.

Mahalo!
Tina



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* Biological Electron Microscope Facility * (808) 956-6251 *
* University of Hawaii at Manoa * http://www.pbrc.hawaii.edu/bemf*
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From daemon Mon Feb 4 16:46:57 2002



From: Jensen, Karen :      Karen_Jensen-at-urmc.rochester.edu
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:21:56 -0500
Subject: Protein dimers and chains

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Dear Listers:

I have been trying to image with negative stain, protein chains and protein
dimers with 2.0% Uranyl Acetate. It seems when I pipet onto the grid,
various dilutions (10-100x) of the buffered protein dimer sample, I get alot
of protein chain formation. I want the dimer form to stay in that
configuration-- not link up into chains. I am photographing at 100,000
using 75 kv on a traditional Hitachi 7100 TEM.

Does anyone out there work with these types of specimen? Is there a special
way to prep the grid, dry the grid, etc.? Should I use some other type of
grid besides the formvar/carbon coated copper grid? Should I sonicate the
specimen before I place the sample on the grid?

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Karen Bentley, M.S.
(previously Jensen)
Associate Scientist & Project Manager
Electron Microscope Research Core
University of Rochester Medical Center
Rochester, NY 14642
585-275-1954



From daemon Mon Feb 4 17:27:39 2002



From: Darrell Miles :      milesd-at-US.ibm.com
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 18:22:15 -0500
Subject: Environmental Noise Impacting JEOL 848 SEM

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Curtis,

Don't be too quick to accept the service engineers claim that the SEM is
not
the source of noise in the image. When they can't easily figure out what
the
problem is, it is too easy for them to blame the "fields," because it is
something
not well understood by most people. I went through all of the field
service
people, the service people at the JEOL headquarters in Massachusetts, and
an "expert" from Japan. The expert's final conclusion was that the problem
was
caused by the fields in the room, and not our new SEM. A while later, we
moved
the SEM some miles down the road to a different building. We had JEOL
check
the room before moving in, and they blessed the room. When we had the
exact
same problem, I had a discussion with the people in Massachusetts.
Eventually,
we had a repaired system that provided excellent images. This all took way
too
long to resolve. The only company that I am aware of having intimate
knowledge
of their systems "noise" was Amray. They used a spectrum analyzer on the
system, and identified every source of every frequency.

Good luck! Your problem will, most likely, not be this difficult.
Darrell

"Curtis Olson" {COlson-at-scpglobal.com} on 02/04/2002 01:12:43 PM

To: {Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com}
cc:


I operate a JEOL 848 SEM but am limited to less than 30,000x due to at
least two frequencies of external noise. The service engineers from JEOL
have determined the noise is not due to the SEM. I will be conducting as
much of a room survey as possible later in February but I am hoping to
obtain some insight into common testing formats, noise sources, and
solutions. From what I have been able to learn so far, this noise reduction
is something of an art rather than science. Thank you in advance from this
microscopist with much to learn.

Curtis Olson







From daemon Mon Feb 4 17:58:29 2002



From: curari-at-asu.edu
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 16:50:46 -0700 (MST)
Subject: ISI SX-40 help

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Dear Listers,

I am a student at Scottsdale Community College. I am working with an
ISI SX-40 Scanning Electron Microscope. It has an old polaroid camera that
snaps a picture of a CRT image. I am looking for options(and donated
equipment) to put these images on to a PC, the big problem is I am on a
very tight budget($800) so I am very willing to look for used equipment
(card or camera or info) . This machine is old and did not
work at all. Over the past 8 months or so I have rebuilt the diffusion pump,
roughing pump, new seals, column cleaning, and learned basic operation by
myself with this apparatus. And I have learned a lot from following this list
server, so I wanted to send out a big thanx to all the listers. Thank you in
advance for your time and consideration. Any and all input is appreciated

Wil Kunkel
Student Extraordinaire

This email was sent with 100.00% recycled electrons.



From daemon Mon Feb 4 19:07:50 2002



From: Bob :      bobrobs-at-earthlink.net
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 10:23:18 -0700
Subject: Re: Environmental Noise Impacting JEOL 848 SEM

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Curtis,

I would start with a close inspection of the power supplied to the SEM.
Although measuring for stray fields and floor
vibration may be in order, a good place to begin is with the A/C power
and the potential for ground loops if wired common
or shared with other equipment. The ground terminal into the microscope
main power supply can often be a good source of noise.

On a positive note, if this noise is a problem as low as 30KX it should
be somewhat easier to find.

Regards,

Bob Roberts
EM Lab Services, Inc.
Tempe, Arizona 85284


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From: James Pawley :      jbpawley-at-facstaff.wisc.edu
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 20:33:15 -0600
Subject: Second announcement: Seventh Annual UBC Live-Cell course

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Announcing the Seventh Annual INTERNATIONAL 11-Day Short Course on

3D Microscopy of Living Cells, June 10 - 20, 2002

Sixth, Post-course Workshop on, 3D Image Processing, June 22 - 24, 2002

Organized by Prof. James Pawley, University of Wisconsin-Madison

in association with the, UBC Brain Research Centre, Prof. Max
Cynader, Director.
University of British Columbia, Vancouver, BC, Canada

(CORRECTION!! some early brochures were sent out with an incorrect URL.
Course info can be found at: ht tp://www.3dcourse.ubc.ca)

THE PURPOSE OF THE COURSE

Modern methods of 3D light microscopy promise a revolutionary
improvement in our ability to view living cells. To help convert
this promise to reality for a wider selection of biological
scientists, the organizers have designed an intensive eleven-day
residential course concentrating on all aspects of the 3D Microscopy
of Living Cells. Sponsored by the Brain Research Centre at the
University of British Columbia, it will be held in June of 2002. The
course includes 4 days on 2D techniques, 5 days of 3D techniques and
2 days on 3D measurement and display. It includes everything from
basic microscopy to confocal and multiphoton microscopy. A half-day
Pre-course is offered for those wishing to brush up on (very!) basic
optics.


INTERNATIONAL FACULTY
o Stephen Adams University of California-SD
o Dan Axelrod University of Michigan
o Mark Cannell University of Auckland, NZ
o Rainer Duden Cambridge Institute for Medical Research, UK
o Ping Chin Cheng SUNY, Buffalo
o Stefan Hell Max Planck Institute, Goettingen
o Alan Hibbs BioCon, Melbourne, Australia
o Iain Johnson Molecular Probes, OR
o Larry Keenan Cell Robotics, NM
o Ernst Keller Carl Zeiss, Thornwood, NY
o Andres Kriete Tissue Informatics, Pittsburgh
o Glen MacDonald Virginia Bloedel Hearing Inst, WA
o Irina Majoul Max Planck Institute, Goettingen
o Felix Margadant University of Sydney, AU
o Tim Murphy University of British Columbia
o Jim Pawley University of Wisconsin-Madison
o Steve Potter California Institute of Technology
o Badri Roysam Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, NY
o Lee Tierney Eppendorf Scientific,Albequerque, NM
o Michael Weis Agriculture Canada


APPLICATIONS
Applicants will submit an application to assess knowledge level and
field of interest. Enrollment will be limited to 24 - 32
participants (depending on equipment availability). Selection will
be made on the basis of background and perceived need. Those with
little previous LM experience will be provided with basic texts to
read before the course begins, and should take the Pre-course.

Application forms and other course information from this and past
years can be downloaded from the WWW site at

h ttp://www.3dcourse.ubc.ca/home.html

or obtained from:

Prof. James Pawley,
Zoology Department.,
1117 W. Johnson Drive,
Madison, WI.
Phone: 608-263-3147 fax. 608-265-5315
Email: jbpawley-at-facstaff.wisc.edu

IMPORTANT DATES
Applications must be received by Mar. 15, 2002
Deposit due Apr. 15, 2002
Registration 5:00 - 7:00 pm Sunday, June 9, 2002
Intro. Lecture 7:00 PM, Sunday, June 9, 2002
Last class ends with lunch, Thursday, June 20, 2002
3D IP Workshop Saturday, June 22-24, 2002
--
****************************************
Prof. James B. Pawley, Ph. 608-263-3147
Room 223, Zoology Research Building, FAX 608-265-5315
1117 Johnson Ave., Madison, WI, 53706 JBPAWLEY-at-FACSTAFF.WISC.EDU
"A scientist is not one who can answer questions
but one who can question answers."
Theodore Schick Jr., Skeptical Enquirer, 21-2:39


From daemon Mon Feb 4 21:12:24 2002



From: jhardy-at-coh.org ()
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:53:52 -0600
Subject: Ask-A-Microscopist: Image Supercharger for SEM

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Below is the result of your feedback form (NJZFM-ultra-55). It was
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February 4, 2002 at 15:28:55
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Email: jhardy-at-coh.org
Name: John Hardy

Organization: City of Hope Medical Center

Education: Graduate College

Location: Duarte, California

Question: Does anyone have experience with, or comments about the
"Image Supercharger Upgrade" by Ascend Technical Sales? It would be
an add-on image processor for our "mature"(i.e. 1984) Philips 505
SEM. Please contact me off line at:
jhardy-at-coh.org
Thank you in advance
John Hardy
City of Hope Medical Center
Duarte, CA
(626)301-8265

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From daemon Mon Feb 4 21:13:32 2002



From: zaluzec-at-microscopy.com
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:53:16 -0600
Subject: Re: Ask-A-Microscopist:Help LM Info for a Middle School

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} Email: ever4us-at-comcast.com
} Name: Denise Everett
}
} Organization: Pitman Middle School
}
} Education: 6-8th Grade Middle School
}
} Location: Pitman, NJ 08071
}
} Question: I've recently become the science coordinator of our school
} but my science background is in enzymology so I don't have alot of
} experience with microscopy. We are looking to buy some new scopes
} and in the process I've been looking at our old ones. The 400x
} magnification is pretty unusable on these. Is that supposed to be oil
} immersion use only?
} These lenses are pretty dirty and have probably not been maintained.
} The top objective does not come out for cleaning as far as I can see.
} Do I just need to send these to a technician?
}
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Denise -

I'm glad that you've asked for help; we're here to provide it.
There are several topics here. First, new microscopes. Let's assume that
the scopes that you have are salvageable. Since you're in a middle school,
PLEASE consider purchasing "dissecting" rather than compound scopes like
the ones that you have. A lot of introductory microscopy for your age
group is observstion of thick specimens at lower magnifications; looking at
large insects, flowers, shells, etc. So having a mix of types will greatly
expand your capabilities. You'll find a detailed discussion of selection
criteria on Project MICRO's website (URL below). I suggest 20x monocular
dissecting scopes, wich will cost you around $75 each; sources are listed
on the MICRO site and you can find an example online at
www.microscopeworld.com.
Your dirt diagnosis is probably accurate. It would be best if you
learn to clean the scopes yourself; you'll then know how to keep them that
way. The New York Microscopical Society has members and meeting rooms in
New Jersey, and one of their members may be available to show you what to
do; I'm copying this Email to Jean Portell {JeanDP-at-aol.com} , one of their
officers. I also can provide you with detailed cleaning instructions for
teachers, written by a MSA member. 400x is "high dry" - oil immersion is
1000x and inappropriate for middle school.
While you're visiting the MICRO website, don't miss MSA's middle
school manual, "Microscopic Explorations"; it's an excellent introduction
to scientific observation and inquiry, written by the science educators at
the Lawrence Hall of Science. If you want a reference book for your own
use, here's another listing from the MICRO bibliography:

Nachtigall, W. 1995 Exploring With the Microscope 160 pp. hardbound.
6.5x9.5". $19.95. ISBN 0-8069-0866-1 Sterling Publishing Co., NY.
Although this book is intended for adult amateur microscopists, it
is well written and will provide teachers and classroom volunteers with
much useful information on "serious" light microscopy; it's unequalled as a
basic reference for beginners. Almost half of the book is devoted to
simple preparation methods for biological specimens and descriptions (with
good illustrations) of commonly encountered organisms. Adult. RECOMMENDED

Caroline

Caroline Schooley
Project MICRO Coordinator
Microscopy Society of America
Box 117, 45301 Caspar Point Road
Caspar, CA 95420
Phone/FAX (707)964-9460
Project MICRO: http://www.msa.microscopy.com/ProjectMicro/PMHomePage.html
Intertidal invertebrates: http://www.fortbragg.k12.ca.us/AG/marinelab.html


From daemon Mon Feb 4 22:32:44 2002



From: Pradyumna Prabhumirashi :      p-prabhumirashi-at-northwestern.edu
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 22:25:12 -0600
Subject: EELS Raw Data

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Hello,

I need some help in converting some raw EELS data into formats readable
by either EL/P or digital micrograph. The data I have gathered is in
.ZAL (Zaluzek) format. The data looks very similar to the .TAD format.
Let me know if there is a program that reads .ZAL format and converts it
to .TAD or even two column text. Perhaps Nestor would be able to help in
this regard, right? :).
Thanks in advance,

Prad

Pradyumna Prabhumirashi
Dept. of Materials Science
Northwestern University
Phone: (847)491-7798
Fax : (847)491-7820




From daemon Mon Feb 4 22:47:48 2002



From: Beauregard :      beaurega-at-westol.com
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 18:37:51 -0500
Subject: Straight parallel micron bars in Photoshop

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Hi,
To create an image with a labeled micron bar in 20-30 seconds:
1. Make the info tab totally visible as a separate window on the right
side of PS.
2. Crop your image. I assume you are calibrated in cm.
3. Click on the line drawing tool.
4. In the lower left corner, click where you want the marker to start.
5. Drag to the right slightly, then hold down the shift key for a perfect
straight line. (Use the option tab to increase the line width (5-15 pixels).)
6. Drag to the right until the D: in the INFO window that shows the length
you need on the final printed image
You should take into account how you might have changed the DPI values.
For example, if you scanned a neg. at 600 DPI and cut it to 200 DPI, then a
negative of 10,000X will be about 30,000X on the print and the line length
for 1µm should be D: 3.00 CM in INFO. This varies a bit with your
printer. Use scanned graph paper to calibrate your DPI to exactly 3x. I
use 196 DPI on a HP1200TN to get 3X, after scanning at 600 DPI.
7. CAREFULLY release the mouse button, then the shift key and you have
your perfect line.
8. Click on the type tool and click at the position you want the text
above the marker. I use centered, 15 point, crisp, black ink, ariel MT,
bold, etc.
9. Type in using 15 points the length of the line; 1µm, 0.1µm, 0.3 µms, etc.
10.. Highlight the "1µm" text and copy it as a template to the clipboard
for the next image. Click OK.
11. Continue to the next image.

µ = press and hold down the ALT key,
on the NUMSPAD on the right of the keyboard,
type 0181,
release the ALT key.
µ appears in ANY windows program.
Try:
http://www.dtp-aus.com/ext_set.htm
for more extended characters and a nice table you can print.
Å, ², ³,©, ®, ±, £, ö, •, 0176°

Paul Beauregard
Senior Research Associate
PPG Industries
440 College Park Drive
Monroeville, PA 15146



From daemon Tue Feb 5 00:07:19 2002



From: Mark YEADON :      m-yeadon-at-imre.org.sg
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 14:03:52 +0800
Subject: 300kV LaB6 TEM for polymer analysis?

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Dear Colleagues,

We are in process of buying a TEM for our Science Faculty; it would be used
by physicists and materials scientists, and also chemists (inorganic and
organic samples).

We have a 300kV FEG machine with ultra hi res polepiece (restricted tilt).
We do polymers and inorganics, no problem. We now need a LaB6 machine
(budget constraint) with high tilt to be more of a Workhorse Machine.

For the sake of resolution and penetration, we are favoring a 300kV
analytical TEM with ~2.1A resolution, and around 40 degrees tilt. This will
be perfect for the physical scientists.

HOWEVER: The chemists are worried that they will have trouble looking at
their polymer samples in a 300kV LaB6. Can someone help to support me (or
correct me) in my thesis that this machine will be able to support them just
as well as a 200kV machine? (I know eg that the HT can be reduced to 100 or
200kV, but the chemists are still skeptical - they have no prior TEM
experience).

If there is someone with a 300kV LaB6 TEM running polymers, I would be very
glad to hear from you! Any references to your papers that would show
polymers imaged in a 300kV LaB6 machine would be most welcome (esp any soft
copies that I can circulate to our committee).

Thanks to all in advance,

Mark

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Mark Yeadon
Senior Research Fellow
Institute of Materials Research and Engineering
3 Research Link
Singapore 117602

Assistant Professor
Department of Materials Science
National University of Singapore
Singapore 119260
http://www.matsci.nus.edu.sg/STAFF/Mark.html

TEL: (+65) 874 8591
FAX: (+65) 872 0785
Email: m-yeadon-at-imre.org.sg


From daemon Tue Feb 5 02:26:25 2002



From: Peter Heimann :      peter.heimann-at-biologie.uni-bielefeld.de
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 09:16:58 +0100
Subject: self coating of EM viewing screen (looking for help/recipe)

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Colleagues,

who has any personal experience in self coating of an EM viewing
screen and can send me his advice?

a few years ago there was a reply to a similar topic by {underline} Bill Tivol {/underline} ,

however his e-mail adress must have changed and he can`t be

reached by the old one.

peter heimann (Bielefeld / Germany) {color} {param} 0100,0100,0100 {/param}

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WEB-Site: http://www.uni-bielefeld.de/biologie/Entwicklungsbiologie
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From daemon Tue Feb 5 09:37:59 2002



From: David_R_Stadden-at-armstrong.com
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:28:55 -0500
Subject: NIST-traceable stage micrometer?

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I've been asked if the stage micrometers I use for calibrating our optical
scopes are NIST-traceable. Is there such a thing and, if not, what would
satisfy requirements for ISO certification in the area of metrology?

Thanks!

Dave Stadden
Research Scientist
Armstrong World Industries, Inc.
Lancaster, PA




From daemon Tue Feb 5 10:46:06 2002



From: Caroline Schooley :      schooley-at-mcn.org
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 08:35:38 -0800
Subject: Microscope philately

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Bob Bloodgood, a cell biologist at the University of Virginia, has posted
nice images of light microscopes on postage stamps on the web at
http://www.med.virginia.edu/med-ed/cell/stamps/index.html

Caroline Schooley
Project MICRO Coordinator
Microscopy Society of America
Box 117, 45301 Caspar Point Road
Caspar, CA 95420
Phone/FAX (707)964-9460
Project MICRO: http://www.msa.microscopy.com/ProjectMicro/PMHomePage.html
Intertidal invertebrates: http://www.fortbragg.k12.ca.us/AG/marinelab.html




From daemon Tue Feb 5 11:31:27 2002



From: James Pawley :      jbpawley-at-facstaff.wisc.edu
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 11:22:43 -0600
Subject: Re: Environmental Noise Impacting JEOL 848 SEM

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You might also have a look at

Pawley, J.B. Strategy for Locating and Eliminating Sources of Mains
Frequency Stray Magnetic Fields. Scanning 7:43-46 (1985).

Pawley, J.B. Use of Pseudo-Stereo Techniques to Detect Stray Field in
the SEM. Scanning 9-3:134-136 (1987).

The matter of ground loops, and stray fields from bad house wiring
are a bit complex to discuss in emails. Please excuse the
self-advertisement.

Jim P.




} Curtis,
}
} I would start with a close inspection of the power supplied to the
} SEM. Although measuring for stray fields and floor
} vibration may be in order, a good place to begin is with the A/C
} power and the potential for ground loops if wired common
} or shared with other equipment. The ground terminal into the
} microscope main power supply can often be a good source of noise.
}
} On a positive note, if this noise is a problem as low as 30KX it
} should be somewhat easier to find.
}
} Regards,
}
} Bob Roberts
} EM Lab Services, Inc.
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From daemon Tue Feb 5 13:07:33 2002



From: Tina Carvalho :      tina-at-pbrc.hawaii.edu
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 08:56:42 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Rephrased - Nikon Coolpix vs Olympus digital cameras

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Hi, All-

} From the personal responses I've been getting it seems like a lot of
people haven't figured out that the Olympus C-3030 and C-4040 cameras can,
indeed, be mounted on light microscopes. Olympus can supply all the
adapters needed for this task, and can come in with an easier setup,
better resolution, and a lower price. The main attraction of the Coolpix
seems to be that it can swivel to make viewing the screen easier (I heard
a rumor that this feature is about to be discontinued), but either camera
would benefit by being plugged into a monitor. I haven't had a chance to
compare the cameras, and was hoping to scare up someone who
has. Interestingly, the ones who have replied with information have not
been from the US, so local marketing must be spotty.

} From the replies so far from people who have tried both, one bought the
Nikon, one bought the Olympus.

Aloha,
Tina

****************************************************************************
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* Biological Electron Microscope Facility * (808) 956-6251 *
* University of Hawaii at Manoa * http://www.pbrc.hawaii.edu/bemf*
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From daemon Tue Feb 5 13:09:22 2002



From: Dave Hall :      daveh-at-restechimage.com
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 14:02:23 -0500
Subject: Straight parallel micron bars in Photoshop

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All:

I'd like to throw out another possible option for creating micron bars
on images. The PAX-it Basic Measurement Module (as an add-on for the
PAX-it image database product) provides this exact capability. Similar
to other software options suggested previously, the Basic Measurement
Module also offers other measurement capability such as point-to-point
distances, angle measurements, segmented line lengths, parallel line
calipers, etc. There is also an Enhanced Measurement Module adding a
range of additional features for area detection, blob counting, sizing,
and sorting, etc. The measurement modules also provide direct report
generating capabilities through (OLE) Automation links to MS Word,
Excel, or PowerPoint.

However, what PAX-it and its measurement modules offer, that other
options mentioned previously do not appear to offer, is a fully
integrated relational database for images and related documents such as
Word documents, Excel spreadsheets, PDF files, PowerPoint presentations.
Everything relating to a project can be entered into the database as
various records with searchable criteria. The database user-interface
is an easy-to-understand visual presentation using file cabinets,
cabinet drawers, file folders, and thumbnails of the images. And, the
entire database can be placed on a file server and, with a special
module, made available across internal networks or the internet to be
accessed using just a standard web browser interface.

PAX-it is a commercial product and we are a reseller for the product.
Hopefully this message is not inappropriate in this forum because we are
not the only reseller for the product, and we are not directly
soliciting sales of the product through this message. The intent is
simply to raise awareness of another option for image measurement and
management.

The manufacturer for PAX-it is MIS (847-455-0450) and the web page is
www.paxit.com. There are multiple dealers nationwide and interested
parties should contact MIS to find the dealer nearest them. (You might
indicate that you became aware of the product through the Microscopy
ListServer.)

*Kind Regards,
*Dave Hall
*Resolution Technology, Inc - (614) 921-0045
*Columbus, OH 43228


-----Original Message-----
} From: Beauregard [mailto:beaurega-at-westol.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 6:38 PM
To: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


Hi,
To create an image with a labeled micron bar in 20-30 seconds:
1. Make the info tab totally visible as a separate window on the right
side of PS.
2. Crop your image. I assume you are calibrated in cm.
3. Click on the line drawing tool.
4. In the lower left corner, click where you want the marker to start.
5. Drag to the right slightly, then hold down the shift key for a
perfect
straight line. (Use the option tab to increase the line width (5-15
pixels).)
6. Drag to the right until the D: in the INFO window that shows the
length
you need on the final printed image
You should take into account how you might have changed the DPI values.
For example, if you scanned a neg. at 600 DPI and cut it to 200 DPI,
then a
negative of 10,000X will be about 30,000X on the print and the line
length
for 1µm should be D: 3.00 CM in INFO. This varies a bit with your
printer. Use scanned graph paper to calibrate your DPI to exactly 3x.
I
use 196 DPI on a HP1200TN to get 3X, after scanning at 600 DPI.
7. CAREFULLY release the mouse button, then the shift key and you have
your perfect line.
8. Click on the type tool and click at the position you want the text
above the marker. I use centered, 15 point, crisp, black ink, ariel MT,
bold, etc.
9. Type in using 15 points the length of the line; 1µm, 0.1µm, 0.3
µms, etc.
10.. Highlight the "1µm" text and copy it as a template to the
clipboard
for the next image. Click OK.
11. Continue to the next image.

µ = press and hold down the ALT key,
on the NUMSPAD on the right of the keyboard,
type 0181,
release the ALT key.
µ appears in ANY windows program.
Try:
http://www.dtp-aus.com/ext_set.htm
for more extended characters and a nice table you can print.
Å, ², ³,©, ®, ±, £, ö, *, 0176°

Paul Beauregard
Senior Research Associate
PPG Industries
440 College Park Drive
Monroeville, PA 15146




From daemon Tue Feb 5 14:36:35 2002



From: Ayten Celik :      celik-at-students.uiuc.edu
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 14:29:17 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: EM safety and family plan

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Hi,

I have joint this group recently so, I do not know about the previous
discussion. The problem about women radiation workers is that (in my
opinion): At birth each female carries a lifetime supply of egg cells.
These egg cells are not in their final form but anyway they can be damaged
or altered when a female radiation worker is exposed to radiation any
time.

To make it short, it is not only what we are doing during pregnancy, it is
what we have been doing before pregnancy as well.

Recently, I had a baby and I have cancelled my experimental work at
research reactors and my flights during my pregnancy.

Ayten Celik Aktas
-at-UIUC


On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Leona Cohen-Gould wrote:

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} HI Evelyn,
} this question came up a while back,so you may want to scan the
} archives, but here are my 2 cents...
} I have a healthy, happy 9 year old son. I have been doing TEM & SEM
} for 25 years. While I was "family pIanning" and pregnant, I wore
} double gloves and worked in the hood when appropriate, washed my
} hands frequently, followed OSHA guidelines and used common sense. I
} still do (except for the double gloves part). Yes, much of what we
} use can be dangerous to ourselves as well as our progeny, but with
} appropriate care I don't think one needs to take a leave or stop
} doing your job.
}
} JMHO,
} Lee
}




From daemon Tue Feb 5 16:11:01 2002



From: Damian Neuberger :      neuberger1234-at-attbi.com
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 15:43:01 -0600
Subject: Re: micron bars in Photoshop

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Listers,

My requirements are that I have to put a label as well as a scale bar on
each optical micrograph and burn CD to archive, all with GLP documentation
(we are working towards a 21CFR Part 11 compliant system). I have
calibrated our research microscope with various optical systems and
photoeyepieces as well as a new macroscope and created about 100 scale bars.
We then automated the whole process as much as we could using Actions and
Droplets and a Word macro to create a label as well as a list of all the
files burned on a CD by filling in a form.

Next we are hoping to be able to write a plug-in that will create a history
text file to document each change to a photograph. I asked Adobe if they
could do that and the person said that it would be feasible but apparently
not enough demand, yet.

Damian Neuberger, PhD
Senior Research Scientist
Baxter Healthcare Corp.
Tel: 847.270.5888
damian_neuberger-at-baxter.com


From daemon Tue Feb 5 16:52:35 2002



From: Walck, Scott D. :      walck-at-ppg.com
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 18:23:07 -0500
Subject: EELS Raw Data

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I evaluated the Nikon Coolpix 990 and Olympus C-3040 for use on my Olympus
SZX12 stereomicroscope when working on-site. When asked, I recommend both
cameras.

I chose the C-3040 because Olympus sells a fixed tubelength adapter
(C2000Z-ADP) that mounts to the trinocular head of the Olympus
stereomicroscope (and my Continuum infrared microscope, which was
manufactured using Olympus components). The adapter makes the camera
parfocal on Olympus microscopes -- no need to focus an adapter. Also, the
C-3040 comes with a remote shutter release as a standard accessory.

Performance on and off the microscopes has been outstanding. In addition to
making still micrographs, I use the camera to record digital video of
solubility and microchemical tests for clients and colleagues. The live
video out function makes focusing and instruction easy (I use a Sony
Trinitron 13 monitor on road trips, or an inexpensive monochrome monitor
when I fly).

I also used the camera to record my son's first rookie hit in Little League.
What does the commercial say? Priceless.

James Martin
Orion Analytical, LLC
Post Office Box 550
Williamstown, MA 01267
t: 413-458-0233 f. 413-458-5542
www.orionanalytical.com


----- Original Message -----
} From: "Tina Carvalho" {tina-at-pbrc.hawaii.edu}
To: "Microscopy Listserver" {Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com}
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 1:56 PM


Are you referring to the EMSA format when you are referring to the ZAL format? If you are, there is a program in the EMSA/MAS library that I put in called "EELS_Plot" this last summer. I am about to send Nestor a newer version of this to replace it. It will plot EELS and EDS data in EMSA format and do a few other things as well. If you want to color, display, compare, subtract background, rescale, and display up to five spectra, copy to window applications, and keep notes, this program will do it. If you can't wait, send me your address, and I will send you a copy on CD.

-Scott

Scott D. Walck, Ph.D.
PPG Industries, Inc.
Glass Technology Center
P. O. Box 11472 (letters)
Guys Run Rd. (packages)
Pittsburgh, PA 15238-0472

Walck-at-PPG.com

(412) 820-8651 (office)
(412) 820-8515 (fax)



-----Original Message-----
} From: Pradyumna Prabhumirashi [mailto:p-prabhumirashi-at-northwestern.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:25 PM
To: Microscopy Listserver (Microscopy Listserver)



Hello,

I need some help in converting some raw EELS data into formats readable
by either EL/P or digital micrograph. The data I have gathered is in
.ZAL (Zaluzek) format. The data looks very similar to the .TAD format.
Let me know if there is a program that reads .ZAL format and converts it
to .TAD or even two column text. Perhaps Nestor would be able to help in
this regard, right? :).
Thanks in advance,

Prad

Pradyumna Prabhumirashi
Dept. of Materials Science
Northwestern University
Phone: (847)491-7798
Fax : (847)491-7820




From daemon Tue Feb 5 17:34:33 2002



From: John J. Bozzola :      bozzola-at-siu.edu
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 17:29:16 -0600
Subject: EDS Noran file availability

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We are using a Noran Voyager 3.3 energy dispersive analyzer to
generate linescan analyses across catalyst granules. We would like to
obtain the data in a spreadsheet format (like Excel or even ASCII)
for use outside of the Noran system. We are able to open regular
analyses saved in the MSA format but the linescans can not be saved
in this format.

Does anyone know how this could be done?

As always, we are very appreciative of any help that you might provide.

JB

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From daemon Tue Feb 5 18:42:16 2002



From: DrJohnRuss-at-aol.com
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 19:34:25 EST
Subject: Re: micron bars in Photoshop

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In a message dated 2/5/02 5:11:37 PM, neuberger1234-at-attbi.com writes:

} Next we are hoping to be able to write a plug-in that will create a history
} text file to document each change to a photograph. I asked Adobe if they
} could do that and the person said that it would be feasible but apparently
} not enough demand, yet.

The need to document each step in the image processing chain is also
important for forensic applications. You should check with Chris Russ at
Reindeer Graphics (jcr6-at-AOL.com), who has been working on that need and may
have some ideas or even a plug-in for you to use.



From daemon Tue Feb 5 19:11:06 2002



From: Rosemary Walsh :      rw9-at-psu.edu
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 20:07:21 -0800
Subject: Re: EM safety and family plan

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} Leona,

What worked for this lab was to ask the female employee in
question to inform you when she intended to become pregnant and then to
arrange for someone in the lab to take responsibility for sample
preparation during the "intention period", 9 months of pregnancy, the
maternity leave and the additional months during which the mother was
nursing the child. This amounted to a substantial amount of time in our
case but I felt better about taking on the added responsibility rather than
deal with possibly serious consequences after the fact.
Rosemary Walsh




From daemon Tue Feb 5 20:21:45 2002



From: gtg990a-at-prism.gatech.edu
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 22:14:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Dr. Russ,
We have already contacted Chris and are working on an agreement to help us,
or write for us, the plug-in(s). though someone who reports to me is
handling this, I will be calling Chris myself to discuss it. It is
something that I would like to make available to everybody when done,
perhaps through the IPTK next version.

Damian Neuberger
P.S. I hope that I can take the class this time around, last time I had to
cancel due to travel restrictions.


----- Original Message -----
} From: {DrJohnRuss-at-aol.com}
To: {neuberger1234-at-attbi.com} ; {microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com}
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 6:34 PM


To whom it may concern:

I am an undergraduate student enrolled at the Georgia Institute of Technology.
I am in a biomedical engineering class, and we have a problem that we must
solve involving electron microscopes. I have a few questions that I hope will
get answered ASAP:

1. What are the advantages and disadvantages in using electrons for microscopy
rather than light?
2. Does the wavelength of the electrons have anythign to do with the spatial
resolution that the microscope produces in the final picture?
3. What is temporal resolution and how is it produced in the electron
microscope?

Thank you for your time. I greatly appreciate your efforts in helping me
understand more of this subject.

Sincerely,
Jenny Wang

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From daemon Wed Feb 6 02:26:50 2002



From: Peter Van Osta :      pvosta-at-unionbio-eu.com
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 09:17:31 +0100
Subject: LM - geometry and analysis

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Hi,

I am looking around for information about geometry based algorithms for
analysis of microscopy images. I have some experience with this kind of
algorithms, which are extremely powerful but somewhat CPU-hungry and I
am looking for improvements.

On the top my personal website you will find examples about what I mean
with geometry based analysis of microscopy images of cells and tissues:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/pvosta/cvwww.htm

By the way I also made a webpage about microsocpy and imaging, which
could be useful
for other people too:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/pvosta/pcrimg.htm

Best regards,

Dr. Peter Van Osta

Union Biometrica N.V./S.A.
European Scientific Operations

Cipalstraat 3
B-2440 Geel
Belgium

tel.: +32 (0)14 570 619
fax.: +32 (0)14 570 621

WWW: www.unionbio.com


From daemon Wed Feb 6 03:26:35 2002



From: David Vowles :      djv23-at-msm.cam.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 09:19:58 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: EDS Noran file availability

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John,

You wrote:

} We are using a Noran Voyager 3.3 energy dispersive analyzer to
} generate linescan analyses across catalyst granules. We would like to
} obtain the data in a spreadsheet format (like Excel or even ASCII)
} for use outside of the Noran system. We are able to open regular
} analyses saved in the MSA format but the linescans can not be saved
} in this format.
}
} Does anyone know how this could be done?

I have written an application to read the various Voyager file formats
(.eds,.lscan,.grey,.xray) on a PC and display/export data in text format.
For the linescan format it will display the image file with line and each
of the linescans graphs. These can be exported to a text file for use in
Excel, etc. I can let you have a copy of this if you wish.


David Vowles
Electron Microscope Unit
Dept of Materials Science and Metallurgy
University of Cambridge
Pembroke St Cambridge
UK CB2 3QZ
Tel: +44 1223 334325
Fax: +44 1223 334567
Email: djv23-at-cam.ac.uk




From daemon Wed Feb 6 04:23:56 2002



From: Peter Van Osta :      pvosta-at-unionbio-eu.com
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 11:17:21 +0100
Subject: LM - geometry and analysis

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Hi,

I am looking around for information about geometry based algorithms for
analysis of microscopy images. I have some experience with this kind of
algorithms, which are extremely powerful but somewhat CPU-hungry and I
am looking for improvements.

On the top my personal website you will find examples about what I mean
with geometry based analysis of microscopy images of cells and tissues:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/pvosta/cvwww.htm

By the way I also made a webpage about microsocpy and imaging, which
could be useful
for other people too:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/pvosta/pcrimg.htm

Best regards,

Dr. Peter Van Osta

Union Biometrica N.V./S.A.
European Scientific Operations

Cipalstraat 3
B-2440 Geel
Belgium

tel.: +32 (0)14 570 619
fax.: +32 (0)14 570 621

WWW: www.unionbio.com


From daemon Wed Feb 6 08:43:29 2002



From: Tom Phillips :      PhillipsT-at-missouri.edu
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 08:34:47 -0600
Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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I think your instructor's hope would be that you figured out the
answers to class problems on your own. Asking an expert in the field
and then simply regurgitating that information is a worthless
exercise. If you are going to invest the time and money required to
earn a degree, you might want to try to learn something along the
way. I am a big supporter of listservers but hate to see them used
in this way.


}
}
} To whom it may concern:
}
} I am an undergraduate student enrolled at the Georgia Institute of
} Technology.
} I am in a biomedical engineering class, and we have a problem that we must
} solve involving electron microscopes. I have a few questions that I hope will
} get answered ASAP:
}
} 1. What are the advantages and disadvantages in using electrons for
} microscopy
} rather than light?
} 2. Does the wavelength of the electrons have anythign to do with the spatial
} resolution that the microscope produces in the final picture?
} 3. What is temporal resolution and how is it produced in the electron
} microscope?
}
} Thank you for your time. I greatly appreciate your efforts in helping me
} understand more of this subject.
}
} Sincerely,
} Jenny Wang
}
} -------------------------------------------------
} Sent through Cyberbuzz- A Server for the Students
} http://cyberbuzz.gatech.edu/

--
Thomas E. Phillips, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Biological Sciences
Director, Molecular Cytology Core Facility

3 Tucker Hall
Division of Biological Sciences
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211-7400
(573)-882-4712 (voice)
(573)-882-0123 (fax)


From daemon Wed Feb 6 09:19:29 2002



From: Mike Bode :      mb-at-Soft-Imaging.com
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 08:15:31 -0700
Subject: Re: micron bars in Photoshop

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Damian,

as you have probably noticed, 21CFR Part 11 is a pretty tough cookie, and in
fact involves more than one piece of software. If you read it closely,
you'll find that it involves the operating system, as well as Operating
Procedures, which are outside the realm of any single software. We have
found a solution to this, but I don't want to advertise this here, so please
contact me off-line if you are interested.

Also, regarding the micron bars, I'd like to mention, that this is always an
afterthought for Photoshop. John Russ has done a good job providing some
features to put a scale bar on the image, but for a comprehensive solution,
I think there are other solutions. We, for example (and other programs
probably as well) make sure, that an image is calibrated from the start by
either reding the calibration or magnification from the instrument or
entering the magnification by hand. The scale bar is then displayed at any
time in the viewport. We found, that a scale bar attached to the image or
the overlay is not the best solution in many cases. For example, if you have
a large image, the size of the scale bar depends on the "screen
magnification": if you set that to 100%, the scale bar has a good size to
see, but you may not see it because the image does not fit on the screen. If
you fit the image to the screen, the scale bar may be too small to read. We
tried to solve this problem by calculating the scale bar dynamically and
displaying it as a part of the viewport, not the image (unless, of course,
you want to attach it to the image).

Finally, I'd like to announce that we moved to new locations in Lakewood.
Please make a note of our new address.

Mike Bode

} } } } } } } } } } WE HAVE MOVED { { { { { { { { {
please make a note of the new address below

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Soft Imaging System Corp.
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-----Original Message-----
} From: Damian Neuberger [mailto:neuberger1234-at-attbi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 2:43 PM
To: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


Listers,

My requirements are that I have to put a label as well as a scale bar on
each optical micrograph and burn CD to archive, all with GLP documentation
(we are working towards a 21CFR Part 11 compliant system). I have
calibrated our research microscope with various optical systems and
photoeyepieces as well as a new macroscope and created about 100 scale bars.
We then automated the whole process as much as we could using Actions and
Droplets and a Word macro to create a label as well as a list of all the
files burned on a CD by filling in a form.

Next we are hoping to be able to write a plug-in that will create a history
text file to document each change to a photograph. I asked Adobe if they
could do that and the person said that it would be feasible but apparently
not enough demand, yet.

Damian Neuberger, PhD
Senior Research Scientist
Baxter Healthcare Corp.
Tel: 847.270.5888
damian_neuberger-at-baxter.com


From daemon Wed Feb 6 09:50:41 2002



From: RCHIOVETTI-at-aol.com
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 10:42:49 EST
Subject: Re: NIST-traceable stage micrometer?

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In a message dated 02/05/2002 8:42:07 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
David_R_Stadden-at-armstrong.com-at-sparc5.microscopy.com writes:

{ { I've been asked if the stage micrometers I use for calibrating our optical
scopes are NIST-traceable. Is there such a thing and, if not, what would
satisfy requirements for ISO certification in the area of metrology?

Thanks!

Dave Stadden
Research Scientist
Armstrong World Industries, Inc.
Lancaster, PA
} }

Dave,

Yes, there is such a thing. You can get a stage micrometer that's
NIST-traceable from:

Klarmann Rulings
480 Charles Bancroft Highway
Litchfield, NH 03052
Tel. 800-252-2401
Fax 603-424-0970

If I recall correctly, you pay a minimum fee for certification of a set
number of points on the scale (you can specify which points on the scale are
to be certified). You can also pay a minimal fee to certify additional
points above the minimum number.

The folks at Klarmann can help you with this.

Good luck!

Bob Chiovetti
GTI Microsystems


From daemon Wed Feb 6 10:54:45 2002



From: Brian Wajdyk :      electronmicroscopist-at-hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 09:46:49 -0700
Subject: measurement and calibration onthe SEM

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Fellow Microscopists,

SEM has historically been used for metrology of various structures. I can't
seem to find much literature about the artifacts associated with this type
of measurement. We do use the NIST standards to check the calibration of
our equipment, but I haven't characterized how the different beam or sample
parameters effect the measurements. What do you do? Has anyone figured out
his or her actual accuracy and precision? We have found that we can safely
give measurements within +/-5% taking into account most human and equipment
errors. This is based on the precision of measurements made of NIST
structures, measured the same way, over several years. On the other hand,
the smallest structure we can measure on the standard is 2um (line and
space. How do you determine at what magnification you will no longer
guarantee the measurement? I see that my MRS-3 from Geller says it's for
10x to 50kX. How do they figure out that the max magnification it is
useful? Maybe it as simple as being able to fit the structure on the
screen. If that were true, you would expect that the instrument would also
be calibrated to a much higher magnification. How high could I say it is
accurate to? Can I safely measure a 1000A line assuming no obvious issues
(i.e. drift)? Can anyone educate me more on this topic or point me to
resources?


Things that could effect measurements (feel free to add to list):
Drift (mechanical / beam)
Charging (obvious or stretching of image from a slow scan)
Magnification (adjusted for each set of lens relays)
kV (surface vs. subsurface image)
Working Distance
Delineation method (raised vs. depression, materials contrast)
Amount of delineation (3D effect)
Resolution (near resolution limit of SEM?)
Contrast (or lack of, bright / dark line)
Edge effect (bright line)
Consistency between tools (calibration, etc.)
Consistency between methods (SEM, TEM, ellipsometry, AFM, etc.)
Operator's eye (where to measure. Measure outside to inside, center to
center, out to out, in to in?)
Variance in measured layer thickness (topography, sloped profile (i.e. base
larger than top))
Angle to beam
Preparation methods (polish (i.e. smearing), cleave (i.e. pull of soft
material), FIB (i.e. angle))
Type of algorithm if doing it automatically (i.e. %50 threshold)





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http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx



From daemon Wed Feb 6 11:02:13 2002



From: Dave Hall :      daveh-at-restechimage.com
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 11:54:52 -0500
Subject: NIST-traceable stage micrometer?

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Yes, NIST-traceable stage micrometers do exist. At least one place they
are available from is Klarmann Rulings (www.reticles.com).

We have utilized these NIST-traceable micrometers in previous systems
we've implemented with much success.

Good Luck

*Kind Regards,
*Dave Hall
*Resolution Technology, Inc - (614) 921-0045
*Please visit our website at http://www.restechimage.com to find our
Optimas training schedule and other useful information.


-----Original Message-----
} From: David_R_Stadden-at-armstrong.com
[mailto:David_R_Stadden-at-armstrong.com]On Behalf Of
"David_R_Stadden-at-armstrong.com"-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 10:29 AM
To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com




I've been asked if the stage micrometers I use for calibrating our
optical
scopes are NIST-traceable. Is there such a thing and, if not, what
would
satisfy requirements for ISO certification in the area of metrology?

Thanks!

Dave Stadden
Research Scientist
Armstrong World Industries, Inc.
Lancaster, PA





From daemon Wed Feb 6 12:04:01 2002



From: Dusevich, Vladimir :      DusevichV-at-umkc.edu
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 11:56:15 -0600
Subject: UPS systems and microtome

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I am looking for a space in my lab for installation of
2 UPS systems (6 and 8 kVa) from Hitachi. One of the options
is to install them in the same room where ultramicrotome is.
I do not like this option, but space is tight. I appreciate
any comments about microtome performance in the presence of
UPS. Microtome is sitting on the air antivibration table.

Thank you,

Vladimir M. Dusevich, Ph.D.
Electron Microscope Lab Manager
3127 School of Dentistry
650 E. 25th Street
Kansas City, MO 64108-2784

Phone: (816) 235-2072
Fax: (816) 235-5524
Web: http://www.umkc.edu/dentistry/microscopy



From daemon Wed Feb 6 12:05:07 2002



From: Geoff McAuliffe :      mcauliff-at-umdnj.edu
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 13:00:41 -0500
Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Tom Phillips wrote:

} I think your instructor's hope would be that you figured out the
} answers to class problems on your own. Asking an expert in the field
} and then simply regurgitating that information is a worthless
} exercise. If you are going to invest the time and money required to
} earn a degree, you might want to try to learn something along the
} way. I am a big supporter of listservers but hate to see them used
} in this way.

Good for you!!

I sent the young lady the same message via private e-mail. I wonder if the
instructor knows about this sort of "research"?

} } To whom it may concern:
} }
} } I am an undergraduate student enrolled at the Georgia Institute of
} } Technology.
} } I am in a biomedical engineering class, and we have a problem that we must
} } solve involving electron microscopes. I have a few questions that I hope will
} } get answered ASAP:
} }
} } 1. What are the advantages and disadvantages in using electrons for
} } microscopy
} } rather than light?
} } 2. Does the wavelength of the electrons have anythign to do with the spatial
} } resolution that the microscope produces in the final picture?
} } 3. What is temporal resolution and how is it produced in the electron
} } microscope?
} }
} } Thank you for your time. I greatly appreciate your efforts in helping me
} } understand more of this subject.
} }
} } Sincerely,
} } Jenny Wang
} }
} } -------------------------------------------------
} } Sent through Cyberbuzz- A Server for the Students
} } http://cyberbuzz.gatech.edu/
}
} --
} Thomas E. Phillips, Ph.D.
} Associate Professor of Biological Sciences
} Director, Molecular Cytology Core Facility
}
} 3 Tucker Hall
} Division of Biological Sciences
} University of Missouri
} Columbia, MO 65211-7400
} (573)-882-4712 (voice)
} (573)-882-0123 (fax)

Geoff
--
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Geoff McAuliffe, Ph.D.
Neuroscience and Cell Biology
Robert Wood Johnson Medical School
675 Hoes Lane, Piscataway, NJ 08854
voice: (732)-235-4583; fax: -4029
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From daemon Wed Feb 6 12:33:21 2002



From: curari-at-asu.edu
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 11:27:12 -0700 (MST)
Subject: ISI SX-40 Help w/ type of video signal?

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Dear Lister

I would like to thank those who gave me some input to my first
delimma.

I found that there are a ton of different frame grabbers out
there. What I dont know is what kind of output signal the scope produces, as
far as my understanding of the ISI SX-40 SEM it puts a signal out to the
CRT. Some of the venders' questions have been if it is an NTSC, PAL, or
RS170 type signal.I am slightly familiar with the first two, but the latter I
have no idea. I do know that there are a couple of "off the shelf" products
from GW Electronics and Image Slave, but these setups are priced at
$4000+. So what I am looking for is if someone
can point me in the direction of where I can reseach this information.



Wil

This email was sent with 100.00% recycled electrons.

P.S. This is a project that hopefully will get students involved with
microcopy from our Biology and Chemistry departments in order to familiarize
the students with instrumentation available in their area of study.



From daemon Wed Feb 6 13:38:25 2002



From: Jinguo Wang :      jqw11-at-psu.edu
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 15:27:20 -0500
Subject: Epson scanner

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Torino 06 February 2002

Dear Dr. P. Van Osta,

you could try this website of Florence University:

http://www.unifi.it/unifi/dbag/lbs1/lbsdip.htm

(sorry...it is in Italian)
and mail to Dr. Stefano Bianchi at this address:
stefano.bianchi-at-dbag.unifi.it

Good luck.
Best Regards,
Ing. Massimo Tosi
----- Original Message -----
} From: "Peter Van Osta" {pvosta-at-unionbio-eu.com}
To: "Microscopy" {Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com}
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 9:17 AM


Dear Lister:

I have a Epson scanner (Perfection 1200 Photo) with a transparency adaptor.
Recently, we have some problems when we scan the negative films. The
pre-scan image looks pretty nice after some adjustment, but the final scan
image is too dark almost just a piece of black stuff.
Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks

Jinguo Wang










From daemon Wed Feb 6 14:35:22 2002



From: tartenon-at-netscape.net
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 15:28:35 -0500
Subject: RE: Nikon Coolpix vs Olympus C-3030 et al.

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Nikon Coolpix 995 has 2.3Megapixels non-interpolated

Tina Carvalho {tina-at-pbrc.hawaii.edu} wrote:

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From daemon Wed Feb 6 15:03:04 2002



From: NPGSlithography-at-aol.com
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 15:54:32 EST
Subject: Re: Environmental Noise Impacting JEOL 848 SEM

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Dear Curtis,

} I operate a JEOL 848 SEM but am limited to less than 30,000x due to at
least
} two frequencies of external noise. The service engineers from JEOL have
} determined the noise is not due to the SEM. I will be conducting as much of
a
} room survey as possible later in February but I am hoping to obtain some
} insight into common testing formats, noise sources, and solutions. From
what
} I have been able to learn so far, this noise reduction is something of an
art
} rather than science. Thank you in advance from this microscopist with much
to
} learn.

I agree that the other responses have very good points.

In addition, if the problem is actually caused by magnetic fields interacting
with the beam, it should get worse at lower kV and at longer working
distances. Do you know the frequencies of the interference? If so, that can
be a very good clue as to its source.

Also, a digital gauss meter that I have found very useful for locating
sources of magnetic fields can be purchased for under $100 US [see the Extech
Model #480823 at www.MetersandInstruments.com, (800) 773-0370, - I have no
financial interest in this company]. This meter makes frequency independent
RMS readings between 30 and 300 Hz. Since line frequency and harmonics are
the most common fields, it works very well.

With such a digital meter, or even a coil of wire connected to an
oscilloscope to act as an uncalibrated magnetic field meter, you can first
check for field strength near the chamber. If a significant magnetic field
(i.e., } 1 mG rms) is observed, it can often be tracked back to the source by
moving the meter around. If the field simply "fills the room", it may be
from a power line with an unbalanced load. For example, if the current runs
on the "hot" wire, but does not return on the neutral or ground wire, then a
large magnetic field will be generated, while normally there are equal and
opposite currents which cancel at any significant distance. In this case,
the wires themselves can be outside the room and the actual wiring problem
may be anywhere in the building!

As a final comment, a good check on environmental problems is simply to come
in after hours when other equipment is more likely to be turned off (or to go
around and turn off everything that you can, but that is typically limited to
your immediate lab). For example, I have watched a gauss meter go from
showing a low field to a significant field simultaneously as an image at high
mag degraded with line frequency interference. The source of the field was
discovered to be power lines outside the SEM room that supplied power to a
laser several labs away. When the laser operator started working in the
morning and increased the laser power, the meter and SEM display clearly
showed the interference.

Good luck.

Joe
_________________________________________
Joe Nabity, Ph.D.
JC Nabity Lithography Systems
E-Beam Lithography using Commercial SEMs & STEMs
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From daemon Wed Feb 6 15:11:24 2002



From: Tina Carvalho :      tina-at-pbrc.hawaii.edu
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 11:05:00 -1000 (HST)
Subject: RE: Nikon Coolpix vs Olympus C-3030 et al.

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****************************************************************************
* Tina (Weatherby) Carvalho * tina-at-pbrc.hawaii.edu *
* Biological Electron Microscope Facility * (808) 956-6251 *
* University of Hawaii at Manoa * http://www.pbrc.hawaii.edu/bemf*
****************************************************************************




From daemon Wed Feb 6 15:39:50 2002



From: Dusevich, Vladimir :      DusevichV-at-umkc.edu
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 15:30:35 -0600
Subject: RE: measurement and calibration onthe SEM

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} -----Original Message-----
} From: Brian Wajdyk [mailto:electronmicroscopist-at-hotmail.com]
} Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:47 AM
} To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: measurement and calibration onthe SEM
}
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}
} Fellow Microscopists,
}
} SEM has historically been used for metrology of various
} structures. I can't
} seem to find much literature about the artifacts associated
} with this type
} of measurement. We do use the NIST standards to check the
} calibration of
} our equipment, but I haven't characterized how the different
} beam or sample
} parameters effect the measurements. What do you do? Has
} anyone figured out
} his or her actual accuracy and precision? We have found that
} we can safely
} give measurements within +/-5% taking into account most human
} and equipment
} errors. This is based on the precision of measurements made of NIST
} structures, measured the same way, over several years. On
} the other hand,
} the smallest structure we can measure on the standard is 2um
} (line and
} space. How do you determine at what magnification you will no longer

Cheap grating replicas with 2600 lines per mm give 0.46 um per line,
and this is not too bad for calibrating 50,000 magnification. I am
happy I do not need certified standards.

} guarantee the measurement? I see that my MRS-3 from Geller
} says it's for
} 10x to 50kX. How do they figure out that the max magnification it is
} useful? Maybe it as simple as being able to fit the structure on the

Maximum useful magnification is very specimen dependant, especially
for low voltage and low vacuum modes. Of course, for digital images
it is possible to check brightness profiles and if they have slopes
on edges of features, then measure "size" on half height of the slope.
But I am not aware about publications which dependably justify this kind
of measurements (manipulations with brightness and contrast and
specimen tilt could change slopes significantly).

} screen. If that were true, you would expect that the
} instrument would also
} be calibrated to a much higher magnification. How high could
} I say it is
} accurate to? Can I safely measure a 1000A line assuming no

It depends on resolution for your microscope/specimens and on
calibration standard you are using. And I think periodic lines with
spacing 2 um not really good standard to measure feature with
the size of 0.1 um.

} obvious issues
} (i.e. drift)? Can anyone educate me more on this topic or

If you have visible drift during single exposure, then something
wrong with microscope or specimen preparation technique.

} point me to
} resources?
}
}
} Things that could effect measurements (feel free to add to list):
} Drift (mechanical / beam)-

exposure time should be small for significant drift.

} Charging (obvious or stretching of image from a slow scan)
} Magnification (adjusted for each set of lens relays)

Could be eliminated with proper calibration.

} kV (surface vs. subsurface image)
} Working Distance

Could be eliminated with proper calibration.

} Delineation method (raised vs. depression, materials contrast)
} Amount of delineation (3D effect)
} Resolution (near resolution limit of SEM?)
} Contrast (or lack of, bright / dark line)
} Edge effect (bright line)
} Consistency between tools (calibration, etc.)
} Consistency between methods (SEM, TEM, ellipsometry, AFM, etc.)
} Operator's eye (where to measure. Measure outside to inside,
} center to
} center, out to out, in to in?)
} Variance in measured layer thickness (topography, sloped
} profile (i.e. base
} larger than top))
} Angle to beam
} Preparation methods (polish (i.e. smearing), cleave (i.e.
} pull of soft
} material), FIB (i.e. angle))
} Type of algorithm if doing it automatically (i.e. %50 threshold)

Some of the things you have mentioned relate to specimen/experiment,
to stereology, but not to microscope. For example, if I need to measure
size of depression without sharp edges, I have to find (or at least to
declare)right procedure for it's measurements. May be I have to perform
stereo measurements and define an edge as a place, where a depth of
depression become equal to 0.1 um (or 10% of total depth, or
whatever else, depending on a study).

And thank you for your extensive list - it is very helpful for
observation of the problem. And about additions to your list -
I think everybody can say something. For example recently I tried
to measure in ESEM thickness of a layer which, as it turned out,
was a viscous liquid...

Regards,

Vladimir


Vladimir M. Dusevich, Ph.D.
Electron Microscope Lab Manager
3127 School of Dentistry
650 E. 25th Street
Kansas City, MO 64108-2784

Phone: (816) 235-2072
Fax: (816) 235-5524
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From daemon Wed Feb 6 15:41:31 2002



From: Tina Carvalho :      tina-at-pbrc.hawaii.edu
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 11:35:53 -1000 (HST)
Subject: RE: Nikon Coolpix vs Olympus C-3030 et al.

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On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 tartenon-at-netscape.net-at-sparc5.microscopy.com wrote:

} Nikon Coolpix 995 has 2.3Megapixels non-interpolated

You made me check into this! Nikon advertises 3.2 megapixels for the
Coolpix 995, and Olympus advertises 4 megapixels for the C-4040, but BOTH
really deliver 2048 x 1536 pixels. Interesting marketing.

They are basically the same technology, with the only difference being the
menus and availability of adapters, I guess. And now all the adapters are
available all kinds of places, so I guess it's a matter of taste. There
aer other manini (a manini is a small fish) differences in number of
threads, recording media, stuff like that.

Mahalo,
Tina

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From: Marti, Jordi :      jordi.marti-at-honeywell.com
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 14:55:44 -0700
Subject: Ceramic Insulator for Hitachi H800 TEM

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Hello!

We have a Hitachi H800 TEM (200 Kev,LaB6) and a few days ago we started having problems with the HV. Static discharges
in the gun area (even at 75 KeV) were traced back to the failed insulator. Hitachi is trying to get us new one, but they
tell me it could take several months since this is normally not a stock item. If any body out there has one that they
are willing to part with (for money) or if any body has other suggestions I would really appreciate your input.

Thanks

Jordi Marti


From daemon Wed Feb 6 17:59:53 2002



From: Mark YEADON :      m-yeadon-at-imre.org.sg
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:49:15 +0800
Subject: RE: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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RS-170 refers to composite b/w video. NTSC refers
to composite color video added to the RS-170 format.
Composite means that the video signal and sync
pulses (H & V & blanking) are conveyed via a single wire.

If I recall the SX-40 correctly (let me know if I am
wrong on this), it has a TV rate display for focusing
and stig and eye-ball viewing, but image recording is/was
via the slow scan high rez short persistence 2K line
film recorder CRT. This poses a significant problem
for image capture.

RS-170 video is interlaced between even/odd lines (fields).
One frame (two fields) is not presented
at the same time. The rapid scan (60/s per field)
and the persistence of the viewing CRT, fool the eye
into being able to see integrated sets of lines. A
frame grabber can't be fooled. The purpose of interlacing
is to reduce flicker which would occur if the whole frame
were sent at one time.

The RS-170 format is essentially a frame of 640x480
pixels. But the problem is that to capture the whole
frame, one needs to store the even and odd fields
and then grab the frame. This feature is typically
called an image buffer or frame buffer. Its output
is RS-170 but consisting of a full frame, either
realtime or the result of slow scan.

I don't think you have this in the SX-40. Your only
option, as I see it, is to get a passive capture
system which is attached to the recording CRT.
The passive capture systems connect to the
recording CRT's H & V sync pulses and the
blanking pulse. GW makes passive capture systems,
Soft Imaging does, as do others. But as you have
found, these are not cheap systems. In some
cases, the hardware is not particularly complex.
But the software is.

The passive system follows the scan pulses
from the SEM's scan generator and uses an
A/D converter to sequentially digitize the output
of the SE detector. A challenge with this is
to obtain fidelity between what is seen versus
what is captured. i.e., same contrast and
brightness on the viewing screen as on the
captured image. Doable, once set up properly.

Perhaps you could elicit the assistance of the
Electrical Engineering Department? Some
clever grad student might love to undertake a
project to digitize your SEM.

gary g.


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Wil,

the answer is fairly simple:

A "video signal" is commonly referred to if the signal follows the standards
set for commercial TV. This allows you to take a camera and connect it
directly to a TV or VCR. As you probably know, there are different standards
in the US and Europe. NTSC is the signal used for color data in the US and
Japan, PAL is the signal used for color data in Europe and other places,
RS170 is for b/w signals. Some frame grabbers can understand all of these
signals, others only one or two.

The problem with a video signal is, that the resolution is very low
(480x640x8bits for NTSC).

If you use the SEM in "slow scan mode", most frame grabbers will not be able
to detect the correct signal because it does not conform to the NTSC or PAL
standards anymore. Then you need to get special electronics, which is not
made in large numbers and is therefore more expensive.

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Dear Lister

I would like to thank those who gave me some input to my first
delimma.

I found that there are a ton of different frame grabbers out
there. What I dont know is what kind of output signal the scope produces,
as
far as my understanding of the ISI SX-40 SEM it puts a signal out to the
CRT. Some of the venders' questions have been if it is an NTSC, PAL, or
RS170 type signal.I am slightly familiar with the first two, but the latter
I
have no idea. I do know that there are a couple of "off the shelf" products
from GW Electronics and Image Slave, but these setups are priced at
$4000+. So what I am looking for is if someone
can point me in the direction of where I can reseach this information.



Wil

This email was sent with 100.00% recycled electrons.

P.S. This is a project that hopefully will get students involved with
microcopy from our Biology and Chemistry departments in order to familiarize
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Dear Jenny,

We're glad that you are interested in microscopy, and that you did some
research to find this list: below are a few pointers to get you started.
There are some excellent texts on the subject, some of which I cite below
from my own lecture course, but check out your own library too. Also, there
are some very well known electron microscopists at Georgia Tech whom you
could consult with - be brave and go say hi! You will find the majority of
scientists (microscopists included) are always glad of an excuse to wax
eloquent on their favorite subject, esp over coffee. I guess the best
advice is always to talk to the experts, unless forbidden by your instructor
(which I would doubt - our instructors always encouraged our intiative in
these matters!)

Best wishes for your studies,

Mark

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} I am in a biomedical engineering class, and we have a problem that we must
}
} solve involving electron microscopes. I have a few questions that I hope
} will
} get answered ASAP:
}
} 1. What are the advantages and disadvantages in using electrons for
} microscopy
} rather than light?
[Mark YEADON]
couple of advantages: electrons have a shorter wavelength (much
shorter); since resolution in this case is dependent on wavelength (Abbe's
expression - resolution ~ 0.61 x wavelength / sin alpha [see texts for
fuller explanation]) - in principle we can resolve distances of a fraction
of an atom with 100kV electrons). Also, electrons are IONIZING radiation,
and we can detect signals arising from ionization processes when they
interact with our sample (such as characteristic x-rays, charcteristic of
the atoms the electron has interacted with in your sample)

couple of disadvantages: electrons require a vacuum if you want
them to travel enough distance to be of use in an electron microscope. this
is expensive and requires substantial maintenance. electron guns and
columns are much bigger and more complex than a regular light microscope -
equates to dollars!

However, because the value of alpha (in above equation) is so much
smaller for electron microscopes you also get an amazingly high depth of
field (see texts below for a derivation - esp the first three). ie, you can
see 3D objects such as bugs in clear focus over the entire sample in a
scanning electron microscope with marvelous resolution, whereas in the light
microscope only one small part of the bug will be in focus at high
magnification...

} 2. Does the wavelength of the electrons have anythin to do with the
} spatial
} resolution that the microscope produces in the final picture?
[Mark YEADON] Absolutely - see above.

} 3. What is temporal resolution and how is it produced in the electron
} microscope?
}
[Mark YEADON] Spatial resolution relates to dimensions of distance,
for a 200kV TEM with thermionic emission gun you would expect about
2Angstroms spatial resolution. Temporal resolution would relate to time,
and I'm guessing you're thinking of the time taken to capture images - this
would depend upon the imaging system you are using. How quickly can you
record 'frames', one after the other. We get 1/30s temporal resolution for
in-situ experiments quite ok. In principle you can go much better than this
with a very fast CCD camera and a high intensity electron beam. (The more
electrons you have per unit time, the more electrons you can get per frame,
and the better the signal to noise ratio - the limit is usually the
recording equipment (signal to nosie ratio of the CCD chip) and not the TEM.

} Thank you for your time. I greatly appreciate your efforts in helping me
} understand more of this subject.
[Mark YEADON]
You're most welcome. We love our subject and are delighted to help
you in your understanding. See if you have any of the following in your
library, although there are many other good ones also:

Transmission Electron Microscopy, DB Williams and CB Carter
Electron Microscopy and Analysis, Goodhew and Humphreys
Light and Electron Microscopy, Slayter and Slayter
Handbook Of Microscopy, ed. by S. Amelinckx et al., Wiley -VCH

} Sincerely,
} Jenny Wang
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From: pjfenneran-at-msn.com ()
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 00:39:32 -0600
Subject: Ask-A-Microscopist:TEM of Ecoli bacteria

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Below is the result of your feedback form (NJZFM-ultra-55). It was
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Email: pjfenneran-at-msn.com
Name: Patrick Fenneran

Organization: Florida Institute of Technology

Education: Graduate College

Location: Melbourne, Florida

Question: I am using an Zeiss 900m TEM looking at E.coli and have the
following questions:

1. The formvar/carbon grids keep on getting blown out, like there is
too much power or the beam is too concentrated.

2. When I am taking pictures, the bacteria do not have resolution,
which adjustments should I make?

3. Do you know of any paperwork that can be obtained that explains
the operation the components of the machine, the only book I have is
the one that came with the machine and it is partly in German.



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From: Ron Doole :      ron.doole-at-materials.oxford.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 08:48:55 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
Subject: Re: Ceramic Insulator for Hitachi H800 TEM

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Hi Jordi,

Sorry to hear about the insulator.

It depends exactly what you mean by 'failed' but we have
had success cleaning ceramic insulators that have been
subjected to tracking of the HT. Even quite deep arcing
tracks have been cleaned out and when returned to service
have worked OK. If they are on the vacuum side they are
just left alone, if they are on a greased joining surface
we ensure that the grease gets well down into the cleaned
track.

I don't know the type of insulator Hitachi use on your
machine but you may be able clean tracks out by polishing
with Al2O3 paste (5um Al2O3 in alcohol). If this does not
work try shot blasting the ceramic with clean Al2O3 beads.
After polishing or blasting blow off with clean N2 (from a
regulated cylinder), clean in several washes of alcohol in
an ultrasonic bath until there is no trace of alumina in
the alcohol and bake out in a clean vacuum oven overnight.
If you cannot get a vacuum oven then heating in air and a
very long pumpout in a vacuum rig may work. It will take a
couple of days but it may get you up and running and may
even save you buying a replacement insulator.

Disclaimer: I take no responsibility for people not
applying common sense to any of the procedures descibed. If
you do not have good technical experience and skills you
are likely to cause further damage.

Good luck,
Ron

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{jordi.marti-at-honeywell.com} wrote:

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} We have a Hitachi H800 TEM (200 Kev,LaB6) and a few days ago we started having problems with the HV. Static discharges
} in the gun area (even at 75 KeV) were traced back to the failed insulator. Hitachi is trying to get us new one, but they
} tell me it could take several months since this is normally not a stock item. If any body out there has one that they
} are willing to part with (for money) or if any body has other suggestions I would really appreciate your input.
}
} Thanks
}
} Jordi Marti
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From: Windland, Mark J (MN14) :      Mark.Windland-at-honeywell.com
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 07:32:30 -0600
Subject: EDS system pricing

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We have blown the window on our old Noran EDS detector. I would like to
find out an approximate price on a new system within about 10k. We would
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From: Donald Lovett :      lovett-at-tcnj.edu
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 08:31:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Tom:

I read Ms Wang's message, thought the same thoughts you articulated here,
and deleted the message. I think that we as a group should agree not to
do homework for students. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us and
raising the issue.

Don


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} } I am an undergraduate student enrolled at the Georgia Institute of
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} } I am in a biomedical engineering class, and we have a problem that we must
} } solve involving electron microscopes. I have a few questions that I hope will
} } get answered ASAP:
} }
} } 1. What are the advantages and disadvantages in using electrons for
} } microscopy
} } rather than light?
} } 2. Does the wavelength of the electrons have anythign to do with the spatial
} } resolution that the microscope produces in the final picture?
} } 3. What is temporal resolution and how is it produced in the electron
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} } Thank you for your time. I greatly appreciate your efforts in helping me
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From: Visitec-at-t-online.de (Martin Klein)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 15:08:09 +0100
Subject: AW: Ceramic Insulator for Hitachi H800 TEM

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Hi Jordi,

We had the same problem with the ceramic insulator (sounds like a law of
nature...). A big help in our case was a dentist. He has much experience in
cleaning ceramic and the perfect tools for doing this job. So my advice is
to bring the part to be cleaned to a dentist in your neighborhood.

Best regards
Martin

VisiTec Microtechnik GmbH
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Hi Jordi,

Sorry to hear about the insulator.

It depends exactly what you mean by 'failed' but we have
had success cleaning ceramic insulators that have been
subjected to tracking of the HT. Even quite deep arcing
tracks have been cleaned out and when returned to service
have worked OK. If they are on the vacuum side they are
just left alone, if they are on a greased joining surface
we ensure that the grease gets well down into the cleaned
track.

I don't know the type of insulator Hitachi use on your
machine but you may be able clean tracks out by polishing
with Al2O3 paste (5um Al2O3 in alcohol). If this does not
work try shot blasting the ceramic with clean Al2O3 beads.
After polishing or blasting blow off with clean N2 (from a
regulated cylinder), clean in several washes of alcohol in
an ultrasonic bath until there is no trace of alumina in
the alcohol and bake out in a clean vacuum oven overnight.
If you cannot get a vacuum oven then heating in air and a
very long pumpout in a vacuum rig may work. It will take a
couple of days but it may get you up and running and may
even save you buying a replacement insulator.

Disclaimer: I take no responsibility for people not
applying common sense to any of the procedures descibed. If
you do not have good technical experience and skills you
are likely to cause further damage.

Good luck,
Ron

On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 14:55:44 -0700 "Marti, Jordi"
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} Hello!
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} We have a Hitachi H800 TEM (200 Kev,LaB6) and a few days ago we started
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} in the gun area (even at 75 KeV) were traced back to the failed insulator.
Hitachi is trying to get us new one, but they
} tell me it could take several months since this is normally not a stock
item. If any body out there has one that they
} are willing to part with (for money) or if any body has other suggestions
I would really appreciate your input.
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From daemon Thu Feb 7 08:39:27 2002



From: Lou Bustillos :      lbustillos-at-amalab.com
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 09:52:48 -0500
Subject: Carbon Coater Help

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Hello,

I have just been given the approval to purchase a new carbon coater. We are looking for a model that doesn't use a water source. We have an existing Denton 502A that we are going to change to a backup system. It has been a workhorse for us for the past 14 years.(Up and running six hours a day.)

At your lab, what has been a proven carbon coater that will last?

I need to submit three vendors to my boss before he will approve a purchase of a new carbon coater. As you can see I have been out of the loop on carbon coaters for fourteen years so any information will help me tremendously.

Thank you for your help.

Luis Bustillos
AMA Analytical Services, Inc.
lbustillos-at-amalab.com


From daemon Thu Feb 7 08:43:07 2002



From: Leona Cohen-Gould :      lcgould-at-med.cornell.edu
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 09:36:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Epson scanner

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}
} Dear Lister:
}
} I have a Epson scanner (Perfection 1200 Photo) with a transparency
} adaptor. Recently, we have some problems when we scan the negative
} films. The pre-scan image looks pretty nice after some adjustment,
} but the final scan image is too dark almost just a piece of black
} stuff.
} Any help will be appreciated.
}
} Thanks
}
} Jinguo Wang
********
I have an Epson Expression 1600 and had the same problem. My
solution was to select "TPU for Pos film" which does not do the
automatic inversion. I then use the Invert function in Photoshop to
reverse the contrast from negative to positive. It works beautifully.
Lee

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Director, Electron Microscopy Core Facility
Manager, Optical Microscopy Core Facility
Joan & Sanford I. Weill Medical College
of Cornell University
voice (212)746-6146
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From daemon Thu Feb 7 09:00:58 2002



From: Donald Lovett :      lovett-at-tcnj.edu
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 09:54:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Polaroid Sprintscan 45 Ultra film holders

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About a year ago there was a valuable discussion of negative scanners.
One concern raised about the Polaroid Sprintscan 45 Ultra was the absence
of a film holder for 3 1/4 x 4 1/4 film. A message was sent that said
that John Warren at Polaroid sent several of you free negative holders.

Last year I purchased this scanner and included a 3 1/4 x 4 1/4 negative
holder on the P.O., and have been waiting for the holder. Polaroid told
my sales rep that such a holder never existed and that John Warren no
longer worked a polaroid.

I have (and love) the Polaroid scanner, but am frustrated about not having
the appropriate film holder. Have any of you received this item, does it
have a part number, and how did you come to have it?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Don

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From daemon Thu Feb 7 10:05:44 2002



From: Lou Ross :      RossLM-at-missouri.edu
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 09:59:46 -0600
Subject: Microbeam Analysis Society information

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Hi all,

The Microbeam Analysis Society's home page has a new url,
http://www.microbeamanalysis.org. We apologize for this inconvience and I
want to thank John Mansfield for his prompt attention in establishing our
new domain name. If you are a subscriber to the MAS listeserver, John
autimatically changed your subscription to the new address at
microprobe-at-microbeamanalysis.org.

Also, the MAS membership email service (masmembership-at-excite.com ) was
interrupted for a few weeks in January but is fully functional again.

Lou Ross
MAS Membership Services
masmembership-at-excite.com
1-800-4MASMEM (1-800-462-7636)
www.microbeamanalysis.org


From daemon Thu Feb 7 10:40:49 2002



From: Gib Ahlstrand :      giba-at-puccini.cdl.umn.edu
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 10:45:01 -0500
Subject: Re: Ask-A-Microscopist:TEM of Ecoli bacteria

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Patrick,

Sounds to me like both points 1. and 2. could be explained if the condenser
aperture is out of the column. Its the uppermost adjustable aperture
sticking out of the side of most TEM's. If thats out, you get huge beam
current down the column, big loss of resolution, and its easy to blow out
the sections or support films.

Or even if the condenser aperture is in, if the next adjustable aperture
down the column, the objective aperture, is out, that also could result in
blown out films, and loss of contrast in the image.

As for the German, best to find someone there who can give you a few
pointers - in English,

Good luck,

Gib

--
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35 Snyder Hall, St. Paul, MN. USA. 55108 (612)624-3454
(612)625-5754 FAX, giba-at-puccini.cdl.umn.edu
http://www.cbs.umn.edu/ic/

} Email: pjfenneran-at-msn.com
} Name: Patrick Fenneran
}
} Organization: Florida Institute of Technology
}
} Education: Graduate College
}
} Location: Melbourne, Florida
}
} Question: I am using an Zeiss 900m TEM looking at E.coli and have the
} following questions:
}
} 1. The formvar/carbon grids keep on getting blown out, like there is
} too much power or the beam is too concentrated.
}
} 2. When I am taking pictures, the bacteria do not have resolution,
} which adjustments should I make?
}
} 3. Do you know of any paperwork that can be obtained that explains
} the operation the components of the machine, the only book I have is
} the one that came with the machine and it is partly in German.
}




From daemon Thu Feb 7 10:47:44 2002



From: Comstock, Robert J. :      comstorj-at-westinghouse.com
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 11:42:38 -0500
Subject: Database/image analysis for digital images

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We have progressed during the past few years to where the majority of our
optical and SEM images are digital rather than Polaroid prints. In addition,
we also scan TEM negatives and store them digitally. I am interested in
some recommendations for software that can store the images in a database so
they can be easily retrieved by keywords and also software for image
analysis (e.g., particle size, image analysis, etc.) What options are
available that people have experience with. I'd be interested in hearing
both pro and con.

Thanks,

Bob Comstock
Westinghouse Electric Co.
Pittsburgh, PA 15235


From daemon Thu Feb 7 11:04:23 2002



From: Gordon Vrololjak :      gvrdolja-at-nature.Berkeley.EDU
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 08:58:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Ask-A-Microscopist:TEM of Ecoli bacteria

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Were the bacteria fixed and stained? Did you carbon coat your formvar
grids before use? What mesh size grids are you using? I have no
information on that particular microscope, but if you have never used any
TEM, you normally use a spread weak beam rather than a concentrated one
for imaging (spread the beam with the condensor lense). Electron
microscopes work best in the dark.

We have some procedures on our website you may wish to browse:
http://biology.berkeley.edu/EML

\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Gordon Ante Vrdoljak Electron Microscope Lab
ICQ 23243541 http://nature.berkeley.edu/~gvrdolja 26 Giannini Hall
gvrdolja-at-nature.berkeley.edu UC Berkeley
phone (510) 642-2085 Berkeley CA 94720-3330
fax (510) 643-6207 cell (510) 290-6793

On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 pjfenneran-at-msn.com wrote:
} 1. The formvar/carbon grids keep on getting blown out, like there is
} too much power or the beam is too concentrated.
}
} 2. When I am taking pictures, the bacteria do not have resolution,
} which adjustments should I make?
}
} 3. Do you know of any paperwork that can be obtained that explains
} the operation the components of the machine, the only book I have is
} the one that came with the machine and it is partly in German.
}
}
}
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}



From daemon Thu Feb 7 11:08:37 2002



From: tartenon-at-netscape.net
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 12:02:19 -0500
Subject: RE: RE: Nikon Coolpix vs Olympus C-3030 et al.

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Sorry You're Right I miss type the numbers it really is 3.2 Megapixels where 2048 X 1536 = 3,145,728 (3.2 Megapixels) I'm using Nikon 995 and I can Photograph Bright, Fluorescence Images My Understanding is that you can increase that resolution using Interpolation, but the real resolution of the image will be 3.2 Megapixels with the Nikon 995. I do not belive Olympus has 4 Megapixels non-interpolated (nor any available digital camera)

Regards

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From: Mike Bode :      mb-at-Soft-Imaging.com
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 12:02:33 -0700
Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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I agree with Don and Tom.


Donald Lovett wrote:

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} Tom:
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} I read Ms Wang's message, thought the same thoughts you articulated here,
} and deleted the message. I think that we as a group should agree not to
} do homework for students. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us and
} raising the issue.
}
} Don
}
} On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Tom Phillips wrote:
}
}
} } I think your instructor's hope would be that you figured out the
} } answers to class problems on your own. Asking an expert in the field
} } and then simply regurgitating that information is a worthless
} } exercise. If you are going to invest the time and money required to
} } earn a degree, you might want to try to learn something along the
} } way. I am a big supporter of listservers but hate to see them used
} } in this way.
} }
} } }
} } } To whom it may concern:
} } }
} } } I am an undergraduate student enrolled at the Georgia Institute of
} } } Technology.
} } } I am in a biomedical engineering class, and we have a problem that we must
} } } solve involving electron microscopes. I have a few questions that I hope will
} } } get answered ASAP:
} } }
} } } 1. What are the advantages and disadvantages in using electrons for
} } } microscopy
} } } rather than light?
} } } 2. Does the wavelength of the electrons have anythign to do with the spatial
} } } resolution that the microscope produces in the final picture?
} } } 3. What is temporal resolution and how is it produced in the electron
} } } microscope?
} } }
} } } Thank you for your time. I greatly appreciate your efforts in helping me
} } } understand more of this subject.
} } }
} } } Sincerely,
} } } Jenny Wang
} } }
} } } -------------------------------------------------
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} }
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Hello Listers,

While I agree with what has been said so far in that nobody should do
somebody else's work, especially not homework for students, I am wondering
if that is not being interpreted a bit too narrowly here. After all, this
listserver **IS** a great resource and the students show some initiative in
finding and posting to it. Wouldn't it be better to help the students find
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this issue. Try reading any one of these books (...) or talk to anyone who
is doing electron microscopy."

Then again, these are my thoughts, and if you disagree, please send me an
email.

mike

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Tom:

I read Ms Wang's message, thought the same thoughts you articulated here,
and deleted the message. I think that we as a group should agree not to
do homework for students. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us and
raising the issue.

Don


On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Tom Phillips wrote:

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} I think your instructor's hope would be that you figured out the
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} exercise. If you are going to invest the time and money required to
} earn a degree, you might want to try to learn something along the
} way. I am a big supporter of listservers but hate to see them used
} in this way.
}
}
} }
} }
} } To whom it may concern:
} }
} } I am an undergraduate student enrolled at the Georgia Institute of
} } Technology.
} } I am in a biomedical engineering class, and we have a problem that we
must
} } solve involving electron microscopes. I have a few questions that I hope
will
} } get answered ASAP:
} }
} } 1. What are the advantages and disadvantages in using electrons for
} } microscopy
} } rather than light?
} } 2. Does the wavelength of the electrons have anythign to do with the
spatial
} } resolution that the microscope produces in the final picture?
} } 3. What is temporal resolution and how is it produced in the electron
} } microscope?
} }
} } Thank you for your time. I greatly appreciate your efforts in helping me
} } understand more of this subject.
} }
} } Sincerely,
} } Jenny Wang
} }
} } -------------------------------------------------
} } Sent through Cyberbuzz- A Server for the Students
} } http://cyberbuzz.gatech.edu/
}
} --
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} Associate Professor of Biological Sciences
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}
} 3 Tucker Hall
} Division of Biological Sciences
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} Columbia, MO 65211-7400
} (573)-882-4712 (voice)
} (573)-882-0123 (fax)
}
}

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From daemon Thu Feb 7 14:03:35 2002



From: Michael O'Keefe :      MAOKeefe-at-lbl.gov
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 13:47:36 -0800
Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Greetings,
I would like to find a distributor for Cargille Laser Liquids (series
5610). I would like to do some experiments involving immersion oils of
varied RI in combination with mountants of differing RI in a manner similar
to the method employed in:

Scalettar, Swedlow, Sedat & Agard. 1996. Dispersion, abberation and
deconvolution in multi-wavelength fluorescence images. Journal of
Microscopy. 182:1, 50-60.

Any advice regarding sources of reagents and techniques to adjust the RI of
immersion media appropriate for LSCM/MP is welcome. Thanks in advance.
-Karl G.

_______________________________________________
Karl Garsha
Light Microscopy Specialist
Imaging Technology Group
Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and Technology
University of Illiniois at Urbana-Champaign
405 North Mathews Avenue
Urbana, IL 61801
Room B650J
Tel: (217) 244-6292
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Bob:
You're likely to get a ton of vendor responses on this one, but I'll throw
in a couple of general thoughts.

Disclaimer: the commercial products mentioned here are EXAMPLES. This use
does not constitute any endorsement by myself or Dow Chemical or imply
anything about the quality or applicability of the product. It also does
not imply anything about the competitive products that are NOT mentioned.

First off, for image analysis, you need to keep ImageJ
(http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/) in mind. It is public domain, is fully
customizable (using Java language) has a wide range of users/developers
around the world and works nicely. The user community is doing a lot of
cool stuff, much of which gets back onto the ImageJ download page and is
available for everyone else. This is the next generation of NIH Image, but
it is now a Java app and runs well on MacOS, Windows, UNIX, Linux and any
other OS that supports Java. You are likely to want something commercial
for your "turnkey" stuff, like Image Pro+ (http://www.mediacy.com/), but
ImageJ is a great tool to keep handy.

As for database/archive, I encourage you to do some math:
How many images do you collect per year?
How much additional information do you need to keep with those images in
order for them to be useful?
How many times do you need those images back after the project is complete?
How long do you want to keep the images in on-line storage?
How much on-line storage are you able to afford?
Who will be administering the database and how much will that administration
cost?

We deal with the issue by using our LIMS project number, then burning a
CD(s) with all the images related to that project so that we can pull out
the CD to retrieve the images. We leave the images on the network file
server until the project is complete, then burn the CD and delete the
on-line files.

If we have "definitive" or reference images, we keep those in on-line
storage. These are the ones that really need to be part of a database.

One tool that has been useful is Thumbs+ (http://www.cerious.com/). We can
make an image directory of the project CDs, then browse that to see if we
can find the image we want. Thumbs+ is really aimed at a "smaller"
operation of just a few people. One company that I know of with a product
for maintaining a large-scale database is Advanced Database Systems
(http://www.adsdb.com/), but there are others out there as well. Cost is
proportional to scale!

Bill
William A. Heeschen, Ph.D.
The Dow Chemical Company
Microscopy, Digital Imaging
1897 Bldg, E-84 / 2040 Bldg, 1330
waheeschen-at-dow.com

-----Original Message-----
} From: Comstock, Robert J. [mailto:comstorj-at-westinghouse.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 11:43 AM
To: MicroscopyListserver (E-mail)


We have progressed during the past few years to where the majority of our
optical and SEM images are digital rather than Polaroid prints. In addition,
we also scan TEM negatives and store them digitally. I am interested in
some recommendations for software that can store the images in a database so
they can be easily retrieved by keywords and also software for image
analysis (e.g., particle size, image analysis, etc.) What options are
available that people have experience with. I'd be interested in hearing
both pro and con.

Thanks,

Bob Comstock
Westinghouse Electric Co.
Pittsburgh, PA 15235


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Don:

I'm afraid I disagree with you and Tom. Part of a scientist's training is to learn
how to identify and use resources. And we (collectively) are a resource that I
believe should be made available to all who can benefit. Of course, that leaves open

the question of whether the student benefits more by working things out in isolation,

or by seeking guidance from experts and either really understanding the answers or
(hopefully not) merely regurgitating them by rote. One hopes that the intelligent
student will reject the latter course.

Mike

Donald Lovett wrote:

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} } }
} } } 1. What are the advantages and disadvantages in using electrons for
} } } microscopy
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} } } resolution that the microscope produces in the final picture?
} } } 3. What is temporal resolution and how is it produced in the electron
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} } }
} } } Thank you for your time. I greatly appreciate your efforts in helping me
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} } }
} } } Sincerely,
} } } Jenny Wang
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From daemon Thu Feb 7 18:57:46 2002



From: DrJohnRuss-at-aol.com
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 19:50:12 EST
Subject: Re: Nikon Coolpix vs Olympus C-3030 et al.

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In a message dated 2/7/02 12:22:59 PM,
tartenon-at-netscape.net-at-sparc5.microscopy.com writes:

} My Understanding is that you can increase that resolution using
Interpolation,
} but the real resolution of the image will be 3.2 Megapixels with the Nikon
} 995. I do not belive Olympus has 4 Megapixels non-interpolated (nor any
} available digital camera)

It's really a lot more complicated than that. The actual spatial resolution
of digital cameras is not simply the number of transistors on the chip (and
in that regard I have the new Sony DSC-f707 which has 5 megapixels on the
chip and produces awesome images, as compared to my Nikon 995). The problem
is that the single chip cameras use an array of filters to expose some
transistors to red, green and blue light. In order to get the image that is
stored, they use interpolation to fill in the color information where it was
not directly measured. The filters have broad wavelength coverage, and the
interpolation schemes are pretty good (lots of patents in that area). But by
direct measurement based on the Fourier power spectra none of these cameras
has a spatial resolution that approaches the value you would expect based on
the number of pixels in the stored image (which is usually the same as the
number of transistors, except for Fuji who save images that have even more
than that). For the Nikon and Sony cameras it is typical to find that the
actual resolution elements across an image - beyond which you have empty
magnification - number about 2/3 of the number of pixels. So a camera with
2000 transistors on each line (e.g., 2000 x 3000 = 6 megapixels) would
probably measure as having about 1300-1350 elements of resolution (in other
words, if you reduced the image to that size you would not really be
discarding any information, and any enlargement beyond that size is empty).

The spatial resolution of the 5 M-pixel Sony is not as good as a 35 mm film
camera, but it is extremely good all the same and certainly represents the
best quality available now (and probably good enough for a great many
applications) provided you store the image as uncompressed tif and don't
throw away the important details by allowing the camera to use jpeg
compression (which all of these cameras will do by default, to save memory).
The tonal resolution - range of brightness values from dark to bright - is
much more problematic. I have had good experience using high end consumer
digital cameras for bright field microsopy, but they don't begin to have
enough range for darkfield or fluorescence work. Remember that 8 bits is 256
grey levels, and even the cameras with internal 10 bits or more only produce
about 8 bits on output because of the conversion from a linear detector to a
film-like log output. Film easily covers several thousand discernible
brightness steps, which would require a 12 bit or more range. That's why
cooled cameras are used for these applications, and why the tiny chips used
in consumer cameras won't work (the small transistors simply can't hold
enough electrons to give that kind of dynamic range).

If you want to compare consumer type cameras, there is a wealth of unbiased
information available online at {http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs.asp} .
The discussion is centered on more typical photographic applications but
there are comparative images, and a lot of info.

Digital cameras are great, and they save a lot of time and money. But don't
expect an inexpensive consumer type camera to cover all applications.


From daemon Thu Feb 7 20:32:43 2002



From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 18:28:04 -0800
Subject: RE: RE: Nikon Coolpix vs Olympus C-3030 et al.

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Pixera 600-series digital camera produce non-interpolated
honest/real 5.8M pixels, RGB.

gary g.


At 09:02 AM 2/7/2002, you wrote:

} Sorry You're Right I miss type the numbers it really is 3.2 Megapixels
} where 2048 X 1536 = 3,145,728 (3.2 Megapixels) I'm using Nikon 995 and I
} can Photograph Bright, Fluorescence Images My Understanding is that you
} can increase that resolution using Interpolation, but the real resolution
} of the image will be 3.2 Megapixels with the Nikon 995. I do not belive
} Olympus has 4 Megapixels non-interpolated (nor any available digital camera)




From daemon Thu Feb 7 21:41:54 2002



From: Beauregard :      beaurega-at-westol.com
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 22:28:19 -0500
Subject: Re: Polaroid Sprintscan 45 Ultra film holders

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Hi Don,

Polaroid will not deliver the holder insert. Period. They did make a few
of them. I saw a metal one, photocopied it and measured it.
I have the insert spec's but not at home here. I could scan it and post it
on my web page.
The thing is only a thin but sturdy piece of sheet metal with rounded edges
that has two slots to fit the two pegs in the 4X5 holder. The holder is
bent or stamped to be slightly recessed, to equal the thickness of a sheet
of film and the recess is the size of a sheet of film. This recess depth
matches the rubberized surface of the regular 4X5 holder. You can make one
from copper sheet stock or brass shim. You would make the outer thin and
slotted piece the thickness of your film. Then solder on a thin piece of
copper below the first piece to hold the film 'recessed'. I bought the
copper material but then it did this:

} From a previous email:
I have a Sprintscan 45i using binuscan as a driver 1.0.3 (wish I didn't).
I could not get Polaroid to furnish any type of holder for 3.25 by 4 inch
cut film, like SO-163. I put the film in sideways and use that. That
raises questions about the focal plane of the film and it bending in the
holder. These are minimal problems for me. However sometimes when the
film is dried, it can be bent. So, I also have my own economy fix that you
can build yourself.

Materials needed:
1 or 2 sheets of the cardboard that come with Kodak SO-163 film.
An old exposed sheet or a new yellow sheet of SO-163 film.
One clear sheet of developed clear and colorless SO-163 film.
20 inches of double back tape.
A roll of 3M Scotchbrand® magic mending tape.
One pair of scissors.
Access to a paper cutter, optional.
One 6 inch ruler with metric millimeters on it.
One Sprintscan 45i 4X5 metal film holder.
One magic marker to blacken all surfaces of the cardboard above (optional).

Cut one sheet of the cardboard so that it is square, 93 mm long and 36 mm
high. It should fit snuggly in the opening of the film holder towards the
locking nut or screw end. Once fitted, place a strip of 3M mending tape on
the length of it so that only half of the tape is pressed onto the 93 mm
long side by the opening for the film. Fold the tape over tightly, no
wrinkles, and press the rest of the tape unto the opposite side of the
blackened cardboard. This 93 mm edge will not fray from now on. Cut off
any excess tape overhanging the ends. Take your colored film sheet and
cut two pieces from the two good 4 inch straight edge sides. One piece
will be "4 inches" ( actually 3 and 7/8ths) by 27 mm. The other will be "4
inches" by 12 mm. Take a piece of scrap 3 1/4 X 4" TEM film with an image
on it and decide how much viewing area you are willing to sacrifice or lose
at the edge of the micrograph that will go up against the cardboard side.
1-2 mm should be about right for a Philips CM12 piece of SO-163 3 ¼ X 4"
cut film.

Place a 4 inch piece of double back tape on the back of the 27 mm wide
piece so that it is flush against the 4 inch edge of it. Place it on the
cardboard so that this 4 inch edge is recessed 1-2 mm from the 4 inch edge
of the cardboard and centered so that 2-3 mm is overhanging the ends of the
cardboard. Repeat this with the 12 mm piece and place it exactly on top of
the first colored film piece. You now have a piece of cardboard with two
pieces of centered colored film taped to it but inset 1-2 mm. The
overhanging film edges will support this template holder in the Polaroid
4x5 holder, when installed.

(You can install more cardboard on the bottom of the first cardboard piece,
if you want the holder to be more rigid.)

Take the 3.25 inch edge of the scrap colorless or developed film and cut a
piece off 3 ¼ inches by 10 mm. Using double backed tape, install the tape
so that it's length covers all 3.25 inches and it is set back 1-2 mm from
the straight 3.25 inch edge of this colorless film piece. Turn it over,
center it lengthwise over the dual stack of film and so that the colorless
film's 3.25 inch edge is flush with the edge of the cardboard, not the
colored dual film pieces. Press it into place on top of the colored film
stack. You have now created a two film thick slot to insert your next TEM
film into that you want to scan and it will be automatically aligned. The
top piece is colorless to provide a view of how you are inserting the
negative being mounted.

One job needs to be done. There is a peg on the 4x5 holder that your film
to be scanned will rest up against. There is another one over by the
locking mechanism. Cut the edge of the new template you made so that it
has a notch that lines up with the peg nearest the locking screw. Press
the ends of the template down onto the holder making sure it is square in
the holder. You should now have an opening that is about 93 mm by 76 mm.
That will be the area of your film that will be scanned. You will notice
that the white or blackened cardboard is below the edge of the metal
holder. Put a few pieces of mending tape around the template to hold it in
place permanently and to keep it from sliding around.

To load the film holder:
Slide the new film into the slot so that it is above the white cardboard
and below the clear film piece. Slide the rest of the film up until it
hits the one peg nearest the hinge. Square up the film if needed. Close
the film holder. The film will be centered in the holder and flat all
around the edges.
The best part is this holder is FREE and only should take an hour or two to
make.

My Polaroid scanner lasted 1½ years and is now defunct. When I turn it on,
it moves the holder in and out continuously. It never initializes. It's
not my favorite piece of equipment. I use a Powerlook III and it's much
faster to scan with it. It does not have the OD range and resolution is
worse but it didn't cost $7000. My customers don't complain.
Use the Fuji setting for low constrast negs. Use regular transmission on
high contrast negs. and invert.

Info on ordering UMAX scanner PLASTIC cut film holders that won't scratch
the glass on your flat bed:
Umax Phone: Area 510 - 651 - 4000 ext 3038
Parts are ordered from Fremont, Calf. only.

#SKIT-29002 PKG of 3 4" by 5" plastic cut film holders. $39.99

??? PKG of 5 2.25" by 3.25" holder
$49.99
These holders can be routed out to make a 3 1/4 X 4" holder. It takes some
skill to do this.
Placing the 3x4 film in sideways in a 4x5 holder works just fine and that's
what I use.

Paul Beauregard
Sr. Research Associate
PPG Industries
Monroeville, PA 15146




} Last year I purchased this scanner and included a 3 1/4 x 4 1/4 negative
} holder on the P.O., and have been waiting for the holder. Polaroid told
} my sales rep that such a holder never existed and that John Warren no
} longer worked a polaroid.
}
} }
} Any help would be appreciated.
}
} Thanks,
}
} Don
}
} ______________________________________________________________________
} Donald L. Lovett e-mail: lovett-at-tcnj.edu
} Assoc. Professor, Dept. of Biology voice: (609) 771-2876
} P.O. Box 7718 fax: (609) 637-5118
} The College of New Jersey
} Ewing, NJ 08628-0718
}
}
}
}
}
}

} Last year I purchased this scanner and included a 3 1/4 x 4 1/4 negative
} holder on the P.O., and have been waiting for the holder. Polaroid told
} my sales rep that such a holder never existed and that John Warren no
} longer worked a polaroid.
}
} I have (and love) the Polaroid scanner, but am frustrated about not having
} the appropriate film holder. Have any of you received this item, does it
} have a part number, and how did you come to have it?
}
} Any help would be appreciated.
}
} Thanks,
}
} Don
}




From daemon Thu Feb 7 23:44:00 2002



From: gtg990a-at-prism.gatech.edu
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 00:36:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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I assure all of you who responded to me that I will NOT be just regurgitating
the information you have sent me. All the information was greatly appreciated,
and hopefully I can understand it all to apply to my assignment. This is NOT
just a homework assignment, and there is still much more that I am required to
research and think about and discuss with my group before producing a final
solution. The goal of our class is to learn how to research using different
types of sources, and one of the ways we are told, when one has a limited
amount of time to learn something, is to ask others who are more knowledgeable
in the subject, professionals like yourselves. So thank you for your time for
those who were kind enough to help me.
Sincerely,
Jenny

Quoting Michael O'Keefe {MAOKeefe-at-lbl.gov} :

} Don:
}
} I'm afraid I disagree with you and Tom. Part of a scientist's training
} is to learn
} how to identify and use resources. And we (collectively) are a resource
} that I
} believe should be made available to all who can benefit. Of course,
} that leaves open
} the question of whether the student benefits more by working things out
} in isolation,
} or by seeking guidance from experts and either really understanding the
} answers or
} (hopefully not) merely regurgitating them by rote. One hopes that the
} intelligent
} student will reject the latter course.
}
} Mike
}
} Donald Lovett wrote:
}
} }
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} } Tom:
} }
} } I read Ms Wang's message, thought the same thoughts you articulated
} here,
} } and deleted the message. I think that we as a group should agree not
} to
} } do homework for students. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us
} and
} } raising the issue.
} }
} } Don
} }
} } On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Tom Phillips wrote:
} }
} } }
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} } }
} } } I think your instructor's hope would be that you figured out the
} } } answers to class problems on your own. Asking an expert in the
} field
} } } and then simply regurgitating that information is a worthless
} } } exercise. If you are going to invest the time and money required
} to
} } } earn a degree, you might want to try to learn something along the
} } } way. I am a big supporter of listservers but hate to see them
} used
} } } in this way.
} } }
} } }
} } } }
} } } }
} } } } To whom it may concern:
} } } }
} } } } I am an undergraduate student enrolled at the Georgia Institute
} of
} } } } Technology.
} } } } I am in a biomedical engineering class, and we have a problem that
} we must
} } } } solve involving electron microscopes. I have a few questions that
} I hope will
} } } } get answered ASAP:
} } } }
} } } } 1. What are the advantages and disadvantages in using electrons
} for
} } } } microscopy
} } } } rather than light?
} } } } 2. Does the wavelength of the electrons have anythign to do with
} the spatial
} } } } resolution that the microscope produces in the final picture?
} } } } 3. What is temporal resolution and how is it produced in the
} electron
} } } } microscope?
} } } }
} } } } Thank you for your time. I greatly appreciate your efforts in
} helping me
} } } } understand more of this subject.
} } } }
} } } } Sincerely,
} } } } Jenny Wang
} } } }
} } } } -------------------------------------------------
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} } } --
} } } Thomas E. Phillips, Ph.D.
} } } Associate Professor of Biological Sciences
} } } Director, Molecular Cytology Core Facility
} } }
} } } 3 Tucker Hall
} } } Division of Biological Sciences
} } } University of Missouri
} } } Columbia, MO 65211-7400
} } } (573)-882-4712 (voice)
} } } (573)-882-0123 (fax)
} } }
} } }
} }
} }
} ______________________________________________________________________
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} } Assoc. Professor, Dept. of Biology voice: (609) 771-2876
} } P.O. Box 7718 fax: (609) 637-5118
} } The College of New Jersey
} } Ewing, NJ 08628-0718
}
}


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From daemon Fri Feb 8 00:29:37 2002



From: Manuel E. Brito :      manuel-brito-at-aist.go.jp
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 15:38:12 +0900
Subject: Macro-, Micro- and Meso-porous Materials

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Dear Colleagues,

The deadline for abstract submission for the Microscopy &
Microanalysis 2002 (Quebec City, Canada) is rapidly approaching.
Among the featured Symposia at this year meeting, "Electron
Microscopy of Macro-, Micro- and Meso-porous Materials"
will address the current state of the art.

The deadline for electronic abstract submission is
February 15th. We look forward to seeing you in Quebec City!


Manuel E. Brito, AIST, Japan
Douglas Blum, ORNL, USA Dear Colleagues,


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Moriyama-ku, Nagoya 463-8687 JAPAN
Tel: +81-52-739-0135 Fax: +81-52-739-0136
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From daemon Fri Feb 8 02:21:44 2002



From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Old=F8ich_Benada?= :      benada-at-biomed.cas.cz
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 09:19:31 +0100
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Hi,
I think you have meant 2160 lines per mm giving 0.46 um between two
adjacent lines (a standard replica grating); 2600 lines per mm should
give .38 um spacing.

Best regard from Prague
Oldrich



On 6 Feb 2002 at 15:30, Dusevich, Vladimir wrote:

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} } Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:47 AM
} } To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} } Subject: measurement and calibration onthe SEM
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} }
} } Fellow Microscopists,
} }
} } SEM has historically been used for metrology of various
} } structures. I can't
} } seem to find much literature about the artifacts associated
} } with this type
} } of measurement. We do use the NIST standards to check the
} } calibration of
} } our equipment, but I haven't characterized how the different
} } beam or sample
} } parameters effect the measurements. What do you do? Has
} } anyone figured out
} } his or her actual accuracy and precision? We have found that
} } we can safely
} } give measurements within +/-5% taking into account most human
} } and equipment
} } errors. This is based on the precision of measurements made of NIST
} } structures, measured the same way, over several years. On
} } the other hand,
} } the smallest structure we can measure on the standard is 2um
} } (line and
} } space. How do you determine at what magnification you will no longer
}
} Cheap grating replicas with 2600 lines per mm give 0.46 um per line,
} and this is not too bad for calibrating 50,000 magnification. I am
} happy I do not need certified standards.
}
} } guarantee the measurement? I see that my MRS-3 from Geller
} } says it's for
} } 10x to 50kX. How do they figure out that the max magnification it is
} } useful? Maybe it as simple as being able to fit the structure on the
}
} Maximum useful magnification is very specimen dependant, especially
} for low voltage and low vacuum modes. Of course, for digital images
} it is possible to check brightness profiles and if they have slopes
} on edges of features, then measure "size" on half height of the slope.
} But I am not aware about publications which dependably justify this kind
} of measurements (manipulations with brightness and contrast and
} specimen tilt could change slopes significantly).
}
} } screen. If that were true, you would expect that the
} } instrument would also
} } be calibrated to a much higher magnification. How high could
} } I say it is
} } accurate to? Can I safely measure a 1000A line assuming no
}
} It depends on resolution for your microscope/specimens and on
} calibration standard you are using. And I think periodic lines with
} spacing 2 um not really good standard to measure feature with
} the size of 0.1 um.
}
} } obvious issues
} } (i.e. drift)? Can anyone educate me more on this topic or
}
} If you have visible drift during single exposure, then something
} wrong with microscope or specimen preparation technique.
}
} } point me to
} } resources?
} }
} }
} } Things that could effect measurements (feel free to add to list):
} } Drift (mechanical / beam)-
}
} exposure time should be small for significant drift.
}
} } Charging (obvious or stretching of image from a slow scan)
} } Magnification (adjusted for each set of lens relays)
}
} Could be eliminated with proper calibration.
}
} } kV (surface vs. subsurface image)
} } Working Distance
}
} Could be eliminated with proper calibration.
}
} } Delineation method (raised vs. depression, materials contrast)
} } Amount of delineation (3D effect)
} } Resolution (near resolution limit of SEM?)
} } Contrast (or lack of, bright / dark line)
} } Edge effect (bright line)
} } Consistency between tools (calibration, etc.)
} } Consistency between methods (SEM, TEM, ellipsometry, AFM, etc.)
} } Operator's eye (where to measure. Measure outside to inside,
} } center to
} } center, out to out, in to in?)
} } Variance in measured layer thickness (topography, sloped
} } profile (i.e. base
} } larger than top))
} } Angle to beam
} } Preparation methods (polish (i.e. smearing), cleave (i.e.
} } pull of soft
} } material), FIB (i.e. angle))
} } Type of algorithm if doing it automatically (i.e. %50 threshold)
}
} Some of the things you have mentioned relate to specimen/experiment,
} to stereology, but not to microscope. For example, if I need to measure
} size of depression without sharp edges, I have to find (or at least to
} declare)right procedure for it's measurements. May be I have to perform
} stereo measurements and define an edge as a place, where a depth of
} depression become equal to 0.1 um (or 10% of total depth, or
} whatever else, depending on a study).
}
} And thank you for your extensive list - it is very helpful for
} observation of the problem. And about additions to your list -
} I think everybody can say something. For example recently I tried
} to measure in ESEM thickness of a layer which, as it turned out,
} was a viscous liquid...
}
} Regards,
}
} Vladimir
}
}
} Vladimir M. Dusevich, Ph.D.
} Electron Microscope Lab Manager
} 3127 School of Dentistry
} 650 E. 25th Street
} Kansas City, MO 64108-2784
}
} Phone: (816) 235-2072
} Fax: (816) 235-5524
} Web: http://www.umkc.edu/dentistry/microscopy
}
}
}


+-----------------------------------+
Oldrich Benada
Acad. Sci. CR
Institute of Microbiology
Laboratory of electron microscopy
Videnska 1083
CZ - 142 20 Prague 4 - Krc
Czech Republic
+------------------------------------+
Phone: +420-2-4752399
Fax: +420-2-4752347
WEB:http://www.biomed.cas.cz/mbu/lem113/lem.htm



From daemon Fri Feb 8 06:18:33 2002



From: Shea Miller :      millers-at-EM.AGR.CA
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 07:14:20 -0500
Subject: help with buffer

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Greetings all;
can anyone provide the formulation for Hank's buffer? I have looked in all of my books (most, but not all of which, admittedly, lean towards plants) and can't find a single reference. It is called for in a protocol for controlling autofluorescence in aldehyde fixed tissue.

thanks in advance
shea


Dr. S. Shea Miller
Agriculture & AgriFood Canada
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Ottawa, Ontario,
Canada K1A 0C6
Phone: (613)759-1760
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From daemon Fri Feb 8 06:52:08 2002



From: ÏæÁÕ :      Xianglin_Li-at-student.uml.edu
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 7:47:2 -0500
Subject: Do you have any recommended books?

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Hi all;

I have two sets of data to interpreted:
1) X-ray rocking curve data, to analyze the defect (damage) of the wafer surface.
2) XPS data, to trace how the wafer surface composition will change with the increasing of sputtering time.

I need to have some fundamental idea of these two theories to interpreted data. Do you have any recommendations of the textbooks, or other papers I should read?

Any kind of help will be appreciated!

Xianglin Li

Xianglin_Li-at-student.uml.edu



From daemon Fri Feb 8 07:34:32 2002



From: Scott Whittaker :      Whittaker.scott-at-nmnh.si.edu
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 08:27:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Database/image analysis for digital images

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I have been quite happy with SIS Analysis package and database. We generate about 10-15k images a year here and it does a nice job managing it all and keeping relevant data with the images. My users may place a copy of the full program on their PC and run the analysis offline hooking directly to the network served db (MS Access based) and a new option will soon allow my users to log in with a web browser and query the db for their data directly- password protected and everything (hit a couple of snags and don't have it worked out yet). All three SEM's capture directly into the db, TEM data is dragged and dropped after capture, and I hope to soon have the LM directly capturing into it as well. I just haven't gotten it installed yet.

Hitachi distributes PCI quartz which seems very similar though I have no experience with it.

On the cheap side there is a program called thumbs+ from Cerious software for simple archiving.

Scott Whittaker
SEM Lab Manager
Smithsonian Institution
PO Box 37012 MRC104
National Museum of Natural History
Washington DC 20560-0104
202-357-1651


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We have progressed during the past few years to where the majority of our
optical and SEM images are digital rather than Polaroid prints. In addition,
we also scan TEM negatives and store them digitally. I am interested in
some recommendations for software that can store the images in a database so
they can be easily retrieved by keywords and also software for image
analysis (e.g., particle size, image analysis, etc.) What options are
available that people have experience with. I'd be interested in hearing
both pro and con.

Thanks,

Bob Comstock
Westinghouse Electric Co.
Pittsburgh, PA 15235




From daemon Fri Feb 8 07:48:17 2002



From: Oakley, Jeff :      oakleyj-at-rayovac.com
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 07:42:30 -0600
Subject: RE: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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I'm rather embarrassed that some of the members of this listserver were too
narrow minded and/or arrogant to see that Ms. Wang was using this group of
experts as a source, just as one would use a book. And besides, if she were
just going to "regurgitate" the information learned here, wouldn't she just
be doing the same with information pulled from a book?

I suddenly feel dirty somehow... Oh my God... It won't wash off!


Jeff (I'm in for it now) Oakley



} } I think your instructor's hope would be that you figured out the
} } answers to class problems on your own. Asking an expert in the field
} } and then simply regurgitating that information is a worthless
} } exercise. If you are going to invest the time and money required to
} } earn a degree, you might want to try to learn something along the
} } way. I am a big supporter of listservers but hate to see them used
} } in this way.
} }
} } }
} } } To whom it may concern:
} } }
} } } I am an undergraduate student enrolled at the Georgia Institute of
} } } Technology.
} } } I am in a biomedical engineering class, and we have a problem that we
must
} } } solve involving electron microscopes. I have a few questions that I
hope will
} } } get answered ASAP:
} } }
} } } 1. What are the advantages and disadvantages in using electrons for
} } } microscopy
} } } rather than light?
} } } 2. Does the wavelength of the electrons have anythign to do with the
spatial
} } } resolution that the microscope produces in the final picture?
} } } 3. What is temporal resolution and how is it produced in the electron
} } } microscope?
} } }
} } } Thank you for your time. I greatly appreciate your efforts in helping
me
} } } understand more of this subject.
} } }
} } } Sincerely,
} } } Jenny Wang



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From daemon Fri Feb 8 09:02:35 2002



From: Jim Quinn :      jquinn-at-www.matscieng.sunysb.edu
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 09:53:12 -0500
Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Don -

College students should not broadcast messages seeking answers
to elementary questions. Additionally, the use of "ASAP"
was a bad idea.

JQuinn

PS: I sent Jenny Wang's message to her Chairperson and UG Program Director.

} From Microscopy-request-at-sparc5.microscopy.com Fri Feb 8 03:44:15 2002
} Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 13:47:36 -0800
} From: "Michael O'Keefe" {MAOKeefe-at-lbl.gov}
} Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
} To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope
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}
} Don:
}
} I'm afraid I disagree with you and Tom. Part of a scientist's training is to learn
} how to identify and use resources. And we (collectively) are a resource that I
} believe should be made available to all who can benefit. Of course, that leaves open
}
} the question of whether the student benefits more by working things out in isolation,
}
} or by seeking guidance from experts and either really understanding the answers or
} (hopefully not) merely regurgitating them by rote. One hopes that the intelligent
} student will reject the latter course.
}
} Mike
}
} Donald Lovett wrote:
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} } Tom:
} }
} } I read Ms Wang's message, thought the same thoughts you articulated here,
} } and deleted the message. I think that we as a group should agree not to
} } do homework for students. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us and
} } raising the issue.
} }
} } Don
} }
} } On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Tom Phillips wrote:
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} } }
} } } I think your instructor's hope would be that you figured out the
} } } answers to class problems on your own. Asking an expert in the field
} } } and then simply regurgitating that information is a worthless
} } } exercise. If you are going to invest the time and money required to
} } } earn a degree, you might want to try to learn something along the
} } } way. I am a big supporter of listservers but hate to see them used
} } } in this way.
} } }
} } }
} } } }
} } } }
} } } } To whom it may concern:
} } } }
} } } } I am an undergraduate student enrolled at the Georgia Institute of
} } } } Technology.
} } } } I am in a biomedical engineering class, and we have a problem that we must
} } } } solve involving electron microscopes. I have a few questions that I hope will
} } } } get answered ASAP:
} } } }
} } } } 1. What are the advantages and disadvantages in using electrons for
} } } } microscopy
} } } } rather than light?
} } } } 2. Does the wavelength of the electrons have anythign to do with the spatial
} } } } resolution that the microscope produces in the final picture?
} } } } 3. What is temporal resolution and how is it produced in the electron
} } } } microscope?
} } } }
} } } } Thank you for your time. I greatly appreciate your efforts in helping me
} } } } understand more of this subject.
} } } }
} } } } Sincerely,
} } } } Jenny Wang
} } } }
} } } } -------------------------------------------------
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} } }
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} } } (573)-882-0123 (fax)
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From daemon Fri Feb 8 09:18:58 2002



From: DrJohnRuss-at-aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:13:16 EST
Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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In a message dated 2/8/02 10:07:03 AM, jquinn-at-www.matscieng.sunysb.edu writes:

} College students should not broadcast messages seeking answers
} to elementary questions.

Some of them do things even worse than that. As the author of a moderately
well known book on image analysis I get several messages each week asking
questions that boil down to something like this:

"I've been asked to report on X. Could you give me a concise answer so I
won't have to read and digest all of the information in your text? Oh, and I
need it by tomorrow.

The only question that is even more annoying is "I can't afford your book.
Would you please send me a copy?"

The art of reading, digesting and combining information from multiple sources
is vital in education. To try to short cut this and get someone else to chew
the food for you and then regurgitate it is not only lazy and dishonest, it
also prevents students from learning to think, which is a more important part
of education than the factual stuff they seem to be dealing with.



From daemon Fri Feb 8 09:26:49 2002



From: Hendrik O. Colijn :      colijn.1-at-osu.edu
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 10:21:24 -0500
Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Hi all,

While Jenny's questions were rather vague and sounded like she was looking
for an easy answer to an assignment, we should probably give students the
benefit of the doubt. How many times have *we* presented ill-formed
questions when we were not quite sure of what we were asking?

I agree that we should not do a student's assignment for him, but perhaps
we can somewhat more gently steer them to the source of the answers rather
than flame them. I think that if the questions sound inappropriate, we can
make a comment to the effect that we're not going to provide the answer,
but only the source of the info. The ensuing discussion may lead to a
sharpening of the question as the student thinks though what he is trying
to ask. While there are, indeed, students looking for the easy way out, we
need to be careful not to flame the student who framed the question poorly.

Cheers,
Henk Colijn

{...much deleted material...}


Hendrik O. Colijn colijn.1-at-osu.edu
Campus Electron Optics Facility Ohio State University
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Fools are pleased when they discover error.
The wise are pleased when they discover truth.



From daemon Fri Feb 8 09:31:40 2002



From: Tom Phillips :      PhillipsT-at-missouri.edu
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 09:26:06 -0600
Subject: RE: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Jeff: I am assuming from your rayovac.com you are not an educator.
That doesn't disqualify your opinion but I would be more worried if
other currently teaching academics widely expressed this view.
Learning to look something up in the library is part of the teaching
assignment. Finding the correct information and distilling it is not
trivial. Most experts on the listserver could answer each of those
questions in a few concise sentences. You would be hard pressed to
find any source in a library in which you found the question followed
by the answer. When you read the literature, lots of time you end
up reading additional information on peripheral topics that add to
the learning process. More importantly, students constantly give me
sentences in their papers that are clearly paraphrased from the
literature. I am not suggesting this constitutes plagiarism but it
is often apparent from the sentence that they don't really understand
what it means. They think they do but when I discuss it with them,
they are unable to explain the sophisticated sentence in basic terms.
Students frequently comment in my teaching evaluations that the most
important thing they learned in class was that memorizing and
rephrasing the literature doesn't equate to real understanding. If
the instructor wanted them simply to ask an expert to get the bottom
line answer, why didn't the instructor simply say it in lecture or
give them a handout? Don't you think the instructor knew? Do you
think a bioengineering class was designed to teach web surfing tools.
I don't know if you should feel dirty but I think your batteries need
recharging. Tom Phillips


}
}
} I'm rather embarrassed that some of the members of this listserver were too
} narrow minded and/or arrogant to see that Ms. Wang was using this group of
} experts as a source, just as one would use a book. And besides, if she were
} just going to "regurgitate" the information learned here, wouldn't she just
} be doing the same with information pulled from a book?
}
} I suddenly feel dirty somehow... Oh my God... It won't wash off!
}
}
} Jeff (I'm in for it now) Oakley
}
}
}
} } } I think your instructor's hope would be that you figured out the
} } } answers to class problems on your own. Asking an expert in the field
} } } and then simply regurgitating that information is a worthless
} } } exercise. If you are going to invest the time and money required to
} } } earn a degree, you might want to try to learn something along the
} } } way. I am a big supporter of listservers but hate to see them used
} } } in this way.
} } }
} } } }
} } } } To whom it may concern:
} } } }
} } } } I am an undergraduate student enrolled at the Georgia Institute of
} } } } Technology.
} } } } I am in a biomedical engineering class, and we have a problem that we
} must
} } } } solve involving electron microscopes. I have a few questions that I
} hope will
} } } } get answered ASAP:
} } } }
} } } } 1. What are the advantages and disadvantages in using electrons for
} } } } microscopy
} } } } rather than light?
} } } } 2. Does the wavelength of the electrons have anythign to do with the
} spatial
} } } } resolution that the microscope produces in the final picture?
} } } } 3. What is temporal resolution and how is it produced in the electron
} } } } microscope?
} } } }
} } } } Thank you for your time. I greatly appreciate your efforts in helping
} me
} } } } understand more of this subject.
} } } }
} } } } Sincerely,
} } } } Jenny Wang

--
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Associate Professor of Biological Sciences
Director, Molecular Cytology Core Facility

3 Tucker Hall
Division of Biological Sciences
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211-7400
(573)-882-4712 (voice)
(573)-882-0123 (fax)


From daemon Fri Feb 8 09:34:17 2002



From: Gary M. Easton :      gary.easton-at-scannerscorp.com
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:27:56 -0500
Subject: Looking for used EDS Detector

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Listers,
I am in need of a used but functional EDS detector ported for an ETEC
AUTOSCAN SEM. Preferences being Tracor/Noran, Kevex, PGT or EDAX, T/W if
possible. If anyone has any leads, please feel free to contact me off line.
Thanks in advance.



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From daemon Fri Feb 8 09:36:44 2002



From: Peter Van Osta :      pvosta-at-unionbio-eu.com
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 16:30:49 +0100
Subject: Re: Database/image analysis for digital images

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Hi,

There is a collection of image analysis software available on my
"microscopy and imaging" webpage and also several links to image
databases:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/pvosta/pcrimg.htm

Which software environment you choose depends largely on your needs.
Most people need a standard package which is easy to use and there are
several software packages on the market. Do you want to do basic image
analysis or do you ever want to do more complicated analysis on large
datasets, this will influence your choice. Most users "use" imaging
software and don't do a lot of basic image algorithm development
themselves.

Most of the software is available for both Windows and Macintosh, like
the "NIH-Image" family. There is also AnalySIS and ImagePro Plus. For EM
there is specialised software from Gatan and a software package like
KHOROS is also suitable.

There are several image databases available, I believe there are now
several packages available with a web based interface which enables you
to browse the database through a webbrowser.

Best regards,

Peter


} -----Original Message-----
} } From: Comstock, Robert J. [mailto:comstorj-at-westinghouse.com]
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} To: MicroscopyListserver (E-mail)
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} We have progressed during the past few years to where the majority of our
} optical and SEM images are digital rather than Polaroid prints. In addition,
} we also scan TEM negatives and store them digitally. I am interested in
} some recommendations for software that can store the images in a database so
} they can be easily retrieved by keywords and also software for image
} analysis (e.g., particle size, image analysis, etc.) What options are
} available that people have experience with. I'd be interested in hearing
} both pro and con.
}
} Thanks,
}
} Bob Comstock
} Westinghouse Electric Co.
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From daemon Fri Feb 8 09:39:44 2002



From: Curtis Olson :      COlson-at-scpglobal.com
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 08:31:24 -0700
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Mike,

I am new to this listserve so I hesitated to respond, but here it goes. I think a student's questions should be answered in a fashion as you suggest. Mining all resources for information (including media such as this) is a very necessary skill in todays (and definitely tomorrows) world. Whether we agree or not, searching table of contents in the hardcopy library is becoming less and less valuable. Having high school students as children, I have been exposed to a tremendous opportunity for expeditious research covering a broad spectrum of resources using this media. At this time, a combination of hardcopy library and electronic media seems appropriate.

The concern of regurgitation may be moot. After all, from what I have read, this student may very well have the best of intentions and will list this server as her information source. This is an ethical question only she can answer for herself. In addition, it's certainly possible that this is a small fraction of her group's assignment and gleaning the answers to preliminary questions here will only open doors to deeper understanding later.

Obviously, to use a resource such as this to do frequent homework assignments is a mis-use of our time. However, the natural and logical consequences are for the student to deal with when he/she reconciles with the ethical questions and attempts to enter the job market.

Thank you.

Curtis Olson



From daemon Fri Feb 8 09:40:15 2002



From: Bruce Ingber :      bingber-at-srrc.ars.usda.gov
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 09:37:21 -0600
Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Jenny, you are to be commended on your fine response to the negative comments of some of "my" listserver colleagues. Those of us with 10-25 years of "hand's on experience" in various aspects of microscopy are a valuable asset of knowledge for new students in our field. Likewise, there is much we can hopefully learn your age group. Good luck!




Bruce F. Ingber, Biologist
USDA-ARS, SRRC
1100 Robert E. Lee Blvd.
New Orleans, LA 70124
bingber-at-srrc.ars.usda.gov
504-286-4270 phone
504-286-4419 fax



From daemon Fri Feb 8 09:52:36 2002



From: Windland, Mark J (MN14) :      Mark.Windland-at-honeywell.com
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 09:50:35 -0600
Subject: calibration standard

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We need to purchase a new calibration standard for our SEM that gets us down
to the next level. We need to have accuracy down to 0.010 microns. We have
been using the Geller MRS-3 and now are considering purchasing the MRS-4
traceable standard.
I believe this will give us what we need but I was wondering if there are
other standards out there that are better, the same, worse? I need to hear
from the calibration specialists out there.
Thanks,

Mark Windland
Honeywell
Minneapolis, Minnesota
763-954-2845


From daemon Fri Feb 8 11:08:58 2002



From: Beavers, Roy :      rbeavers-at-post.cis.smu.edu
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:45:47 -0600
Subject: Semiconductor Images

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Group,

I am looking for some SEM images of semiconductor circuits. Would like to
have a range of magnifications and view angles from those that show whole
die with bond pads and leads to close-ups of circiut elements. Looking for
interesting features and topography. These will be used as guides to build
some 3D models for a SEM animation video I am working on. If anyone can
supply images for this project please send them to me via E-mail.

Thanks for your help!

Roy Beavers
Southern Methodist University
Dept. of Geological Sciences
Electron Microprobe Lab
P.O. Box 750395
Dallas, Tx 75275
voice: 214-768-2756
fax: 214-768-2701
E-mail: rbeavers-at-mail.smu.edu





From daemon Fri Feb 8 11:09:49 2002



From: Darrell Miles :      milesd-at-US.ibm.com
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:04:35 -0500
Subject: RE: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Though I was not in on the discussion, I am going to throw in my
two cents.

When I read the original post, it looked like someone had a test
sheet, or assignment sheet, with those questions on it. The request
appeared to be for direct answers to those questions. It did not
surprise me that this fine collection of knowledge would conclude
that someone was trying to shortcut the leaning process, and
avoid really learning a subject. If the student was going to just
"regurgitate" something from a book, then we have not contributed
to the current decay in the quality of the knowledge, and understanding,
in the students receiving degrees. Those posts that did give excellent
research sources, ignoring the APPARENT shortcut, did well in my
view. If the request was for help in understanding a concept, function,
process, etc., then a more direct answer from an expert becomes
extremely valuable.

I don't think ANYBODY on the list should be embarrassed or ashamed.
Had Ms. Wang requested help in a different manner, she would have
gotten a stream of replies with all sorts of information, and the simple,
fill out the test, answers probably would have been in there, also.

Darrell

"Oakley, Jeff" {oakleyj-at-rayovac.com} on 02/08/2002 08:42:30 AM

To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
cc:


I'm rather embarrassed that some of the members of this listserver were too
narrow minded and/or arrogant to see that Ms. Wang was using this group of
experts as a source, just as one would use a book. And besides, if she
were
just going to "regurgitate" the information learned here, wouldn't she just
be doing the same with information pulled from a book?

I suddenly feel dirty somehow... Oh my God... It won't wash off!


Jeff (I'm in for it now) Oakley



} } I think your instructor's hope would be that you figured out the
} } answers to class problems on your own. Asking an expert in the field
} } and then simply regurgitating that information is a worthless
} } exercise. If you are going to invest the time and money required to
} } earn a degree, you might want to try to learn something along the
} } way. I am a big supporter of listservers but hate to see them used
} } in this way.
} }
} } }
} } } To whom it may concern:
} } }
} } } I am an undergraduate student enrolled at the Georgia Institute of
} } } Technology.
} } } I am in a biomedical engineering class, and we have a problem that we
must
} } } solve involving electron microscopes. I have a few questions that I
hope will
} } } get answered ASAP:
} } }
} } } 1. What are the advantages and disadvantages in using electrons for
} } } microscopy
} } } rather than light?
} } } 2. Does the wavelength of the electrons have anythign to do with the
spatial
} } } resolution that the microscope produces in the final picture?
} } } 3. What is temporal resolution and how is it produced in the electron
} } } microscope?
} } }
} } } Thank you for your time. I greatly appreciate your efforts in helping
me
} } } understand more of this subject.
} } }
} } } Sincerely,
} } } Jenny Wang







From daemon Fri Feb 8 11:15:22 2002



From: Geoff McAuliffe :      mcauliff-at-umdnj.edu
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 12:11:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Hi Roy:

"Beavers, Roy" wrote:

} Gentlemen,
}
} I disagree and find this attitude somewhat surprising coming from educators.
} I took the time to answer her questions and encourage her in her studies. I
} believe this list is just as valuable a resource as any other method she
} could have used. I believe students should feel comfortable in using it in
} the attempt to "learn something along the way".

Her instructor wanted her to research the answer, otherwise he would have
told her the answers (to her very elementary questions) himself. Asking someone
other than her instructor is not research. The way her questions were asked
indicated to me that she was merely repeating questions she had been asked. As
for identifying sources of information, a college-level biology text would have
the answers she wanted. A text book on EM would have the answers. Even a web
site on EM would have the answers. She did not look for any of those, she tried
to get the answers handed to her with no more effort than a e-mail. She probable
still does not know that all of those other resources exist. What will she do if
her server goes down? At my institution, we insist that students look up simple,
straightforward facts for themselves rather than using the faculty as
encyclopeidas. That is what the textbook is for. Once they are in possession of
the facts, we then ask them to use them to solve problems. We don't view
reciting facts to students as higher education.

} Roy Beavers
} Southern Methodist University
} Dept. of Geological Sciences
} Electron Microprobe Lab
} P.O. Box 750395
} Dallas, Tx 75275
} voice: 214-768-2756
} fax: 214-768-2701
} E-mail: rbeavers-at-mail.smu.edu
}
}
}
} -----Original Message-----
} From: Geoff McAuliffe [mailto:mcauliff-at-UMDNJ.EDU]
} Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 11:59 AM
} To: Donald Lovett
} Cc: Tom Phillips; Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope
}
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} I agree with Don and Tom.
}
} Donald Lovett wrote:
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} } Tom:
} }
} } I read Ms Wang's message, thought the same thoughts you articulated here,
} } and deleted the message. I think that we as a group should agree not to
} } do homework for students. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us and
} } raising the issue.
} }
} } Don
} }
} } On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Tom Phillips wrote:
} }
} }
} } } I think your instructor's hope would be that you figured out the
} } } answers to class problems on your own. Asking an expert in the field
} } } and then simply regurgitating that information is a worthless
} } } exercise. If you are going to invest the time and money required to
} } } earn a degree, you might want to try to learn something along the
} } } way. I am a big supporter of listservers but hate to see them used
} } } in this way.
} } }
} } } }
} } } } To whom it may concern:
} } } }
} } } } I am an undergraduate student enrolled at the Georgia Institute of
} } } } Technology.
} } } } I am in a biomedical engineering class, and we have a problem that we
} must
} } } } solve involving electron microscopes. I have a few questions that I
} hope will
} } } } get answered ASAP:
} } } }
} } } } 1. What are the advantages and disadvantages in using electrons for
} } } } microscopy
} } } } rather than light?
} } } } 2. Does the wavelength of the electrons have anythign to do with the
} spatial
} } } } resolution that the microscope produces in the final picture?
} } } } 3. What is temporal resolution and how is it produced in the electron
} } } } microscope?
} } } }
} } } } Thank you for your time. I greatly appreciate your efforts in helping
} me
} } } } understand more of this subject.
} } } }
} } } } Sincerely,
} } } } Jenny Wang
} } } }
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From daemon Fri Feb 8 12:03:35 2002



From: Mardinly, John :      john.mardinly-at-intel.com
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 09:57:29 -0800
Subject: Re: Nikon Coolpix vs Olympus C-3030 et al.

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John;
You are correct about the small CCDs of consumer digital cameras
have sever performance deficiencies due to their small pixel size. The F707
and other consumer digital cameras that use the same chip (2/3"-Nikon 5000
and Olympus E20N) suffer from noise even in visible light photographs. The
Nikon D1X and the new Canon EOS 1D(advertised 11.5 µm pixels) are
significant improvements, but cost $6000 just for the camera body! One
organization addressing this problem is
http://www.fredmiranda.com/Action_profilesPage/index.html where they discuss
and sell Photoshop plug-ins for noise reduction. Another digital camera site
I really like is:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/


John Mardinly
Intel


-----Original Message-----
} From: "DrJohnRuss%aol.com"-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
[mailto:"DrJohnRuss%aol.com"-at-sparc5.microscopy.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:50 PM
To: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com



In a message dated 2/7/02 12:22:59 PM,
tartenon-at-netscape.net-at-sparc5.microscopy.com writes:

} My Understanding is that you can increase that resolution using
Interpolation,
} but the real resolution of the image will be 3.2 Megapixels with the Nikon
} 995. I do not belive Olympus has 4 Megapixels non-interpolated (nor any
} available digital camera)

It's really a lot more complicated than that. The actual spatial resolution
of digital cameras is not simply the number of transistors on the chip (and
in that regard I have the new Sony DSC-f707 which has 5 megapixels on the
chip and produces awesome images, as compared to my Nikon 995). The problem
is that the single chip cameras use an array of filters to expose some
transistors to red, green and blue light. In order to get the image that is
stored, they use interpolation to fill in the color information where it was

not directly measured. The filters have broad wavelength coverage, and the
interpolation schemes are pretty good (lots of patents in that area). But by

direct measurement based on the Fourier power spectra none of these cameras
has a spatial resolution that approaches the value you would expect based on

the number of pixels in the stored image (which is usually the same as the
number of transistors, except for Fuji who save images that have even more
than that). For the Nikon and Sony cameras it is typical to find that the
actual resolution elements across an image - beyond which you have empty
magnification - number about 2/3 of the number of pixels. So a camera with
2000 transistors on each line (e.g., 2000 x 3000 = 6 megapixels) would
probably measure as having about 1300-1350 elements of resolution (in other
words, if you reduced the image to that size you would not really be
discarding any information, and any enlargement beyond that size is empty).

The spatial resolution of the 5 M-pixel Sony is not as good as a 35 mm film
camera, but it is extremely good all the same and certainly represents the
best quality available now (and probably good enough for a great many
applications) provided you store the image as uncompressed tif and don't
throw away the important details by allowing the camera to use jpeg
compression (which all of these cameras will do by default, to save memory).

The tonal resolution - range of brightness values from dark to bright - is
much more problematic. I have had good experience using high end consumer
digital cameras for bright field microsopy, but they don't begin to have
enough range for darkfield or fluorescence work. Remember that 8 bits is 256

grey levels, and even the cameras with internal 10 bits or more only produce

about 8 bits on output because of the conversion from a linear detector to a

film-like log output. Film easily covers several thousand discernible
brightness steps, which would require a 12 bit or more range. That's why
cooled cameras are used for these applications, and why the tiny chips used
in consumer cameras won't work (the small transistors simply can't hold
enough electrons to give that kind of dynamic range).

If you want to compare consumer type cameras, there is a wealth of unbiased
information available online at {http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs.asp} .

The discussion is centered on more typical photographic applications but
there are comparative images, and a lot of info.

Digital cameras are great, and they save a lot of time and money. But don't
expect an inexpensive consumer type camera to cover all applications.


From daemon Fri Feb 8 12:03:36 2002



From: Marti, Jordi :      jordi.marti-at-honeywell.com
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:56:43 -0700
Subject: RE: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Having read the comments on both sides I tend to think that part of the problem was due to quite a bit of
misunderstanding (mainly on our part). I too had the same negative reaction when I first read Ms. Wang's e-mail. The way
the first e-mail read I felt that the student was trying to have others solve her assignment problem ( which is why I
did not respond to her request). My reaction changed however when I read her latest e-mail explaining more the nature of
the exercise. I hope I learned from this experience and that in the future I will have a better attitude and ask first
for more information before I decide to give an answer.

Jordi

-----Original Message-----
} From: Oakley, Jeff [mailto:oakleyj-at-rayovac.com]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 8:43 AM
To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


I'm rather embarrassed that some of the members of this listserver were too
narrow minded and/or arrogant to see that Ms. Wang was using this group of
experts as a source, just as one would use a book. And besides, if she were
just going to "regurgitate" the information learned here, wouldn't she just
be doing the same with information pulled from a book?

I suddenly feel dirty somehow... Oh my God... It won't wash off!


Jeff (I'm in for it now) Oakley



} } I think your instructor's hope would be that you figured out the
} } answers to class problems on your own. Asking an expert in the field
} } and then simply regurgitating that information is a worthless
} } exercise. If you are going to invest the time and money required to
} } earn a degree, you might want to try to learn something along the
} } way. I am a big supporter of listservers but hate to see them used
} } in this way.
} }
} } }
} } } To whom it may concern:
} } }
} } } I am an undergraduate student enrolled at the Georgia Institute of
} } } Technology.
} } } I am in a biomedical engineering class, and we have a problem that we
must
} } } solve involving electron microscopes. I have a few questions that I
hope will
} } } get answered ASAP:
} } }
} } } 1. What are the advantages and disadvantages in using electrons for
} } } microscopy
} } } rather than light?
} } } 2. Does the wavelength of the electrons have anythign to do with the
spatial
} } } resolution that the microscope produces in the final picture?
} } } 3. What is temporal resolution and how is it produced in the electron
} } } microscope?
} } }
} } } Thank you for your time. I greatly appreciate your efforts in helping
me
} } } understand more of this subject.
} } }
} } } Sincerely,
} } } Jenny Wang



From daemon Fri Feb 8 12:26:16 2002



From: Geoff McAuliffe :      mcauliff-at-umdnj.edu
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 13:20:01 -0500
Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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"Oakley, Jeff" wrote:

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} I'm rather embarrassed that some of the members of this listserver were too
} narrow minded and/or arrogant to see that Ms. Wang was using this group of
} experts as a source, just as one would use a book.

Thank you. Do all disagreements with your educational philosophy fall under this
umbrella?

} And besides, if she were
} just going to "regurgitate" the information learned here, wouldn't she just
} be doing the same with information pulled from a book?

The point is, she didn't use a book. Rather than look it up for herself she
tried to get someone else to give her the answers. Rather like the old rubric
about teaching a man to fish instead of giving him a fish.

} I suddenly feel dirty somehow... Oh my God... It won't wash off!
}
} Jeff (I'm in for it now) Oakley
}
} } } I think your instructor's hope would be that you figured out the
} } } answers to class problems on your own. Asking an expert in the field
} } } and then simply regurgitating that information is a worthless
} } } exercise. If you are going to invest the time and money required to
} } } earn a degree, you might want to try to learn something along the
} } } way. I am a big supporter of listservers but hate to see them used
} } } in this way.
} } }
} } } }
} } } } To whom it may concern:
} } } }
} } } } I am an undergraduate student enrolled at the Georgia Institute of
} } } } Technology.
} } } } I am in a biomedical engineering class, and we have a problem that we
} must
} } } } solve involving electron microscopes. I have a few questions that I
} hope will
} } } } get answered ASAP:
} } } }
} } } } 1. What are the advantages and disadvantages in using electrons for
} } } } microscopy
} } } } rather than light?
} } } } 2. Does the wavelength of the electrons have anythign to do with the
} spatial
} } } } resolution that the microscope produces in the final picture?
} } } } 3. What is temporal resolution and how is it produced in the electron
} } } } microscope?
} } } }
} } } } Thank you for your time. I greatly appreciate your efforts in helping
} me
} } } } understand more of this subject.
} } } }
} } } } Sincerely,
} } } } Jenny Wang

Geoff
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**********************************************




From daemon Fri Feb 8 12:52:03 2002



From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 10:55:15 -0800
Subject: Answers to Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Tom,

You are correct, I am not an educator. I also agree with you whole
heartedly that when someone reads a text in search of information, they
learn a great deal more than they had planned on... It happens to me every
time I pick up a book in search of an answer to a question. I'm sure this
probably was the intent of the instructor.

The point I should have made in my previous post is that instead of shutting
someone down and "scolding" them (which is exactly what some of the listers
did) for what appeared to be a Cliff's Notes research method, the person
should have been guided to useful web pages or texts that would have made
them find the answers for themselves (which other posters did - kudos to
those).

It is possible to be helpful while at the same time not giving someone a
free ride.

I don't think my batteries are dead, Tom, I just think we are operating at
different voltages.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
} From: Tom Phillips [mailto:PhillipsT-at-missouri.edu]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:26 AM
To: Oakley, Jeff
Cc: Microscopy-at-msa.microscopy.com


While I am no longer in academia, were that not
the case, I might have a different view. However,
consider the future relative to all students.

If they are aspiring to science, microscopy, etc.,
given their experience with MSA as a student,
what might their opinion be when they become
professionals? Isn't it possible that they could
have a bad taste in their mouth about MSA
in particular and the list specifically?

I don't belive that professionals should answer
student's questions in a concise and packaged
format. Rather, professionals should be used
primarily as pointers to sources of information.
Sometimes, they might provide specific data.
Either way, it should (emphasis) stimulate the
student towards their goal. If their motivation
for seeking information from professionals
is simply to get their assignment done, this
could lead to several consequences. One of
these is that they will not know the material
and will be unable to perform as an employee.

It seems that this point is what most listers
should be concerned about--and probably are.

Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.




From daemon Fri Feb 8 12:59:59 2002



From: Dusevich, Vladimir :      DusevichV-at-umkc.edu
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:54:46 -0600
Subject: RE: measurement and calibration onthe SEM

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Thank you,
Sure, I meant 2160 lines.

Vladimir

} -----Original Message-----
} From: Oldrich Benada [mailto:benada-at-biomed.cas.cz]
} Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 2:20 AM
} To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: RE: measurement and calibration onthe SEM
}
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} I think you have meant 2160 lines per mm giving 0.46 um between two
} adjacent lines (a standard replica grating); 2600 lines per mm should
} give .38 um spacing.
}
} Best regard from Prague
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}
}
} On 6 Feb 2002 at 15:30, Dusevich, Vladimir wrote:
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} } } -----Original Message-----
} } } From: Brian Wajdyk [mailto:electronmicroscopist-at-hotmail.com]
} } } Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:47 AM
} } } To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} } } Subject: measurement and calibration onthe SEM
} } }
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} } }
} } } Fellow Microscopists,
} } }
} } } SEM has historically been used for metrology of various
} } } structures. I can't
} } } seem to find much literature about the artifacts associated
} } } with this type
} } } of measurement. We do use the NIST standards to check the
} } } calibration of
} } } our equipment, but I haven't characterized how the different
} } } beam or sample
} } } parameters effect the measurements. What do you do? Has
} } } anyone figured out
} } } his or her actual accuracy and precision? We have found that
} } } we can safely
} } } give measurements within +/-5% taking into account most human
} } } and equipment
} } } errors. This is based on the precision of measurements
} made of NIST
} } } structures, measured the same way, over several years. On
} } } the other hand,
} } } the smallest structure we can measure on the standard is 2um
} } } (line and
} } } space. How do you determine at what magnification you
} will no longer
} }
} } Cheap grating replicas with 2600 lines per mm give 0.46 um per line,
} } and this is not too bad for calibrating 50,000 magnification. I am
} } happy I do not need certified standards.
} }
} } } guarantee the measurement? I see that my MRS-3 from Geller
} } } says it's for
} } } 10x to 50kX. How do they figure out that the max
} magnification it is
} } } useful? Maybe it as simple as being able to fit the
} structure on the
} }
} } Maximum useful magnification is very specimen dependant, especially
} } for low voltage and low vacuum modes. Of course, for digital images
} } it is possible to check brightness profiles and if they have slopes
} } on edges of features, then measure "size" on half height of
} the slope.
} } But I am not aware about publications which dependably
} justify this kind
} } of measurements (manipulations with brightness and contrast and
} } specimen tilt could change slopes significantly).
} }
} } } screen. If that were true, you would expect that the
} } } instrument would also
} } } be calibrated to a much higher magnification. How high could
} } } I say it is
} } } accurate to? Can I safely measure a 1000A line assuming no
} }
} } It depends on resolution for your microscope/specimens and on
} } calibration standard you are using. And I think periodic lines with
} } spacing 2 um not really good standard to measure feature with
} } the size of 0.1 um.
} }
} } } obvious issues
} } } (i.e. drift)? Can anyone educate me more on this topic or
} }
} } If you have visible drift during single exposure, then something
} } wrong with microscope or specimen preparation technique.
} }
} } } point me to
} } } resources?
} } }
} } }
} } } Things that could effect measurements (feel free to add to list):
} } } Drift (mechanical / beam)-
} }
} } exposure time should be small for significant drift.
} }
} } } Charging (obvious or stretching of image from a slow scan)
} } } Magnification (adjusted for each set of lens relays)
} }
} } Could be eliminated with proper calibration.
} }
} } } kV (surface vs. subsurface image)
} } } Working Distance
} }
} } Could be eliminated with proper calibration.
} }
} } } Delineation method (raised vs. depression, materials contrast)
} } } Amount of delineation (3D effect)
} } } Resolution (near resolution limit of SEM?)
} } } Contrast (or lack of, bright / dark line)
} } } Edge effect (bright line)
} } } Consistency between tools (calibration, etc.)
} } } Consistency between methods (SEM, TEM, ellipsometry, AFM, etc.)
} } } Operator's eye (where to measure. Measure outside to inside,
} } } center to
} } } center, out to out, in to in?)
} } } Variance in measured layer thickness (topography, sloped
} } } profile (i.e. base
} } } larger than top))
} } } Angle to beam
} } } Preparation methods (polish (i.e. smearing), cleave (i.e.
} } } pull of soft
} } } material), FIB (i.e. angle))
} } } Type of algorithm if doing it automatically (i.e. %50 threshold)
} }
} } Some of the things you have mentioned relate to specimen/experiment,
} } to stereology, but not to microscope. For example, if I
} need to measure
} } size of depression without sharp edges, I have to find (or
} at least to
} } declare)right procedure for it's measurements. May be I
} have to perform
} } stereo measurements and define an edge as a place, where a depth of
} } depression become equal to 0.1 um (or 10% of total depth, or
} } whatever else, depending on a study).
} }
} } And thank you for your extensive list - it is very helpful for
} } observation of the problem. And about additions to your list -
} } I think everybody can say something. For example recently I tried
} } to measure in ESEM thickness of a layer which, as it turned out,
} } was a viscous liquid...
} }
} } Regards,
} }
} } Vladimir
} }
} }
} } Vladimir M. Dusevich, Ph.D.
} } Electron Microscope Lab Manager
} } 3127 School of Dentistry
} } 650 E. 25th Street
} } Kansas City, MO 64108-2784
} }
} } Phone: (816) 235-2072
} } Fax: (816) 235-5524
} } Web: http://www.umkc.edu/dentistry/microscopy
} }
} }
} }
}
}
} +-----------------------------------+
} Oldrich Benada
} Acad. Sci. CR
} Institute of Microbiology
} Laboratory of electron microscopy
} Videnska 1083
} CZ - 142 20 Prague 4 - Krc
} Czech Republic
} +------------------------------------+
} Phone: +420-2-4752399
} Fax: +420-2-4752347
} WEB:http://www.biomed.cas.cz/mbu/lem113/lem.htm
}
}
}


From daemon Fri Feb 8 14:07:03 2002



From: Michael O'Keefe :      MAOKeefe-at-lbl.gov
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 12:00:35 -0800
Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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No offence Jeff, but does anyone else think that this thread has taken on some
of the aspects of the Energizer Bunny?
;-)

"Oakley, Jeff" wrote:

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} Tom,
}
} You are correct, I am not an educator. I also agree with you whole
} heartedly that when someone reads a text in search of information, they
} learn a great deal more than they had planned on... It happens to me every
} time I pick up a book in search of an answer to a question. I'm sure this
} probably was the intent of the instructor.
}
} The point I should have made in my previous post is that instead of shutting
} someone down and "scolding" them (which is exactly what some of the listers
} did) for what appeared to be a Cliff's Notes research method, the person
} should have been guided to useful web pages or texts that would have made
} them find the answers for themselves (which other posters did - kudos to
} those).
}
} It is possible to be helpful while at the same time not giving someone a
} free ride.
}
} I don't think my batteries are dead, Tom, I just think we are operating at
} different voltages.
}
} Jeff
}
} -----Original Message-----
} } From: Tom Phillips [mailto:PhillipsT-at-missouri.edu]
} Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:26 AM
} To: Oakley, Jeff
} Cc: Microscopy-at-msa.microscopy.com
} Subject: RE: Questions on the Electron Microscope
}
} Jeff: I am assuming from your rayovac.com you are not an educator.
} That doesn't disqualify your opinion but I would be more worried if
} other currently teaching academics widely expressed this view.
} Learning to look something up in the library is part of the teaching
} assignment. Finding the correct information and distilling it is not
} trivial. Most experts on the listserver could answer each of those
} questions in a few concise sentences. You would be hard pressed to
} find any source in a library in which you found the question followed
} by the answer. When you read the literature, lots of time you end
} up reading additional information on peripheral topics that add to
} the learning process. More importantly, students constantly give me
} sentences in their papers that are clearly paraphrased from the
} literature. I am not suggesting this constitutes plagiarism but it
} is often apparent from the sentence that they don't really understand
} what it means. They think they do but when I discuss it with them,
} they are unable to explain the sophisticated sentence in basic terms.
} Students frequently comment in my teaching evaluations that the most
} important thing they learned in class was that memorizing and
} rephrasing the literature doesn't equate to real understanding. If
} the instructor wanted them simply to ask an expert to get the bottom
} line answer, why didn't the instructor simply say it in lecture or
} give them a handout? Don't you think the instructor knew? Do you
} think a bioengineering class was designed to teach web surfing tools.
} I don't know if you should feel dirty but I think your batteries need
} recharging. Tom Phillips
}
} }
} }
} } I'm rather embarrassed that some of the members of this listserver were too
} } narrow minded and/or arrogant to see that Ms. Wang was using this group of
} } experts as a source, just as one would use a book. And besides, if she
} were
} } just going to "regurgitate" the information learned here, wouldn't she just
} } be doing the same with information pulled from a book?
} }
} } I suddenly feel dirty somehow... Oh my God... It won't wash off!
} }
} }
} } Jeff (I'm in for it now) Oakley
} }
} }
} }
} } } } I think your instructor's hope would be that you figured out the
} } } } answers to class problems on your own. Asking an expert in the field
} } } } and then simply regurgitating that information is a worthless
} } } } exercise. If you are going to invest the time and money required to
} } } } earn a degree, you might want to try to learn something along the
} } } } way. I am a big supporter of listservers but hate to see them used
} } } } in this way.
} } } }
} } } } }
} } } } } To whom it may concern:
} } } } }
} } } } } I am an undergraduate student enrolled at the Georgia Institute of
} } } } } Technology.
} } } } } I am in a biomedical engineering class, and we have a problem that we
} } must
} } } } } solve involving electron microscopes. I have a few questions that I
} } hope will
} } } } } get answered ASAP:
} } } } }
} } } } } 1. What are the advantages and disadvantages in using electrons for
} } } } } microscopy
} } } } } rather than light?
} } } } } 2. Does the wavelength of the electrons have anythign to do with the
} } spatial
} } } } } resolution that the microscope produces in the final picture?
} } } } } 3. What is temporal resolution and how is it produced in the
} electron
} } } } } microscope?
} } } } }
} } } } } Thank you for your time. I greatly appreciate your efforts in
} helping
} } me
} } } } } understand more of this subject.
} } } } }
} } } } } Sincerely,
} } } } } Jenny Wang
}
} --
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} Associate Professor of Biological Sciences
} Director, Molecular Cytology Core Facility
}
} 3 Tucker Hall
} Division of Biological Sciences
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} (573)-882-4712 (voice)
} (573)-882-0123 (fax)



From daemon Fri Feb 8 14:43:08 2002



From: Stefan Geimer :      stefan.geimer-at-yale.edu
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 15:33:21 +0100
Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Sending Jenny Wang's message to her Chairperson and UG Program Director was, in my eyes,
really unnecessary. Maybe it was just a nice try from Jenny Wang to get her homework done,
but this is really overdone.

Regards,

Stefan



Jim Quinn wrote:

} Don -
}
} College students should not broadcast messages seeking answers to elementary questions.
} Additionally, the use of "ASAP"
} was a bad idea.
}
} JQuinn
}
} PS: I sent Jenny Wang's message to her Chairperson and UG Program Director.

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From daemon Fri Feb 8 14:49:01 2002



From: Stefan Geimer :      stefan.geimer-at-yale.edu
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 15:39:32 +0100
Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Sending Jenny Wang's message to her Chairperson and UG Program Director
was, in my eyes,
really unnecessary. Even if it was just a nice try from Jenny Wang to
get her homework done,
this is really overdone.

Regards,

Stefan



Jim Quinn wrote:

} Don -
}
} College students should not broadcast messages seeking answers to
elementary questions.
} Additionally, the use of "ASAP"
} was a bad idea.
}
} JQuinn
}
} PS: I sent Jenny Wang's message to her Chairperson and UG Program
Director.



°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°
Stefan Geimer
MCDB Dept.
Yale University
P.O. Box 208103
New Haven, CT 06520-8103
U.S.A.

Tel.: 203/432-3473
Fax.: 203/432-6210

e-mail: stefan.geimer-at-yale.edu
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From daemon Fri Feb 8 15:28:58 2002



From: Cavin Mooers :      cavinm-at-vsl.cua.edu
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 16:05:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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My feeling is that those of you who lack a positve and constructive
response to a question that is posed, simply should not respond. I
have seen plenty of queries by "experts" which could be answered rather
simply by opening a book, but I certainly do not stoop to condescension.


Cavin Mooers, Research Assistant
Vitreous State Laboratory
The Catholic University of America
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From daemon Fri Feb 8 15:38:08 2002



From: Ladd Research :      sales-at-laddresearch.com
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 16:32:58 -0500
Subject: Re: help with buffer

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Shea,

I believe you may be looking Hanks' Balanced Salt Solution. We can get
it for you if you are looking to buy it, or contact me direct if you
just need some information on it.

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} can anyone provide the formulation for Hank's buffer? I have looked in all of my books (most, but not all of which, admittedly, lean
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From daemon Fri Feb 8 15:47:27 2002



From: Doug Anderson :      danderson-at-schnabel-eng.com
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 16:41:15 -0500
Subject: RE: vibration isolation standards

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List Members,

The killer in vibration impact on sensitive equipment is resonance. We
(Schnabel Engineering) have worked on many projects with varying equipment
vibration problems. The common denominator in all of them is that
resonances in the source, the vibration path (whether geological or
structural) and the receiver (the equipment and its mountings) combine to
produce an impact that must be ascertained. It is certainly desirable for
the impact to be determined in advance, because the range of mitigation
techniques is broader then. However, various retrofits are available. The
key is to use the appropriate retrofit.

Vibration, travelling in waves, is different than heat, and a solution of
just packing "stuff" around the site is generally inadequate; sometimes it
works, but that is then just dumb luck. I have used TEM equipment (in grad
school) and know that the column for a 100kV microscope has a substantially
different construction and configuration, and therefore substantially
different vibration response from a 1.2MV microscope. The taller tower of
the 1.2MV instrument will most probably have lower resonant frequencies than
the 100kV instrument. I am not sure if such information (mechanical
resonance) is available for them, but it certainly can be measured.

Mitigation techniques range from modification of the source, to barriers
(trenches or caissons around the facility), to floating floors, to dynamic
or passive absorbers. Each has its place, and the best (including cost!)
solution may be a combination of the above. Again, the reduction of
resonances is the key to successful vibration mitigation. I would be happy
to discuss such solutions with those interested.

As a side note, I first became acquainted with this list about a year and a
half ago, with respect to optical microscope standards. I am impressed with
the quality and quantity of contributions to the list.

Regards,

Doug Anderson

Douglas A. Anderson, PhD
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} -----Original Message-----
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} } We are setting up a totally new EM/LM lab - being built from the ground
} } up. We have told our engineers that we need to have a vibration-free
} } environment for optimum equipment operation. They would like to know
} } exactly what vibration is tolerable and what isn't. Are there any
} } standards or measurements out there that detail what limits can be
} } tolerated and what can't?
} }
} } Thank you!
} }
} } Lesley
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From daemon Fri Feb 8 17:05:48 2002



From: Xianglin Li :      Xianglin_Li-at-student.uml.edu
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 17:57:09 -0500
Subject: Do you have any recommended books?

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Hi all;

I have two sets of data to interpreted:
1) X-ray rocking curve data, to analyze the defect (damage) of the
wafer surface.
2) XPS data, to trace how the wafer surface composition will change
with the increasing of sputtering time.

I need to have some fundamental idea of these two theories to
interpreted data. Do you have any recommendations of the textbooks, or
other papers I should read?

Any kind of help will be appreciated!

Xianglin Li

Center for Advanced Material
Department of Chemical Engineering
University of Massachusetts, Lowell
Xianglin_Li-at-student.uml.edu
Tel: 978-934-3411




From daemon Fri Feb 8 17:23:40 2002



From: Beauregard :      beaurega-at-westol.com
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 18:46:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Polaroid Sprintscan 45 Ultra film holders

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Hello Listers:

Looks like there are different opinions out there. Before this turns into a
flame war, I would personally like to know what the general opinion is. I
therefore propose a poll. Just send me an email with nothing but one of the
following numbers in the subject line, and I will tally those votes and
provide a summary in a week (if I get enough emails):

1) Students should work through their assignments alone. Let's not support
laziness at all.
2) We should help them help themselves by pointing them to general
microscopy books.
3) We should take their questions and point them to specific microscopy
books dealing with their problems
4) We should encourage them to contact us offline so we can test their
sincerity and then either help them or not. This should be posted on the
server to avoid redundancy.
5) We should help them with their questions by trying to answer them in a
general way
6) We should go all out and answer their questions as best as we can.

I hope the statistics will not be skewed by a zillion students who send me
"6" as an answer ;-)

Any suggestions are welcome! I also promise not to misuse the email
addresses!

} } } please send the email to mb-at-soft-imaging.com { { { { { {

mike

} } } } } } } } } } WE HAVE MOVED { { { { { { { { {
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-----Original Message-----
} From: Oakley, Jeff [mailto:oakleyj-at-rayovac.com]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:46 AM
To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


Tom,

You are correct, I am not an educator. I also agree with you whole
heartedly that when someone reads a text in search of information, they
learn a great deal more than they had planned on... It happens to me every
time I pick up a book in search of an answer to a question. I'm sure this
probably was the intent of the instructor.

The point I should have made in my previous post is that instead of shutting
someone down and "scolding" them (which is exactly what some of the listers
did) for what appeared to be a Cliff's Notes research method, the person
should have been guided to useful web pages or texts that would have made
them find the answers for themselves (which other posters did - kudos to
those).

It is possible to be helpful while at the same time not giving someone a
free ride.

I don't think my batteries are dead, Tom, I just think we are operating at
different voltages.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
} From: Tom Phillips [mailto:PhillipsT-at-missouri.edu]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:26 AM
To: Oakley, Jeff
Cc: Microscopy-at-msa.microscopy.com


At 10:28 PM 02/07/02 -0500, Beauregard wrote:
} Polaroid did make a few of them. I saw a metal one, photocopied it
} and measured it. I have the insert spec's but not at home here. I
} could scan it and post it on my web page.

Hi Don,

I have scanned in the photocopy of the special insert for the 4X5 holder.
I made a mistake about it being recessed. The SS45 comes with one (2¼x2¼?)
holder that is recessed and that was what I recalled at home as being
recessed. After looking at the photocopy of an official insert, I realized
my mistake.

The holder is nothing but a totally flat piece of steel with 6 pins
sticking up, a rectangular hole in it to allow transmitted light to shine
through the negative, and along the one outside edge of the insert are two
slots that fit into the two pins on the 4x5 holder.

I will post two JPG images of the insert(s) at:

http://www.westol.com/~beaurega/ss45.htm

I included a scanned image of a steel insert / holder that came standard
with the scanner. Notice the two holders have identical slot alignment in
my one image. Adjust the DPI of the image to get your laserjet printed
insert image to line up with the two pins in the 4x5 holder. Then use this
accurate template to make or have made the insert.

One could use a double layer of old film to make the equivalents of the pin
posts to keep the film in register.
The whole thing is painted black. Use a Dremel tool cut off wheel to make
the slots.

Hope this helps.

Paul Beauregard




From daemon Fri Feb 8 18:19:33 2002



From: Tindall, Randy D. :      TindallR-at-missouri.edu
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 18:12:07 -0600
Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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I agree, Stefan. Not only overdone, but ugly. Since when did we become proctors of other people's courses? I was satisfied with Jenny's answer. If she had ever considered a career in electron microscopy, I'll bet she's reconsidering now.

Randy Tindall
EM Core
University of Missouri

-----Original Message-----
} From: Stefan Geimer
To: MSA Listserver
Sent: 2/8/2002 8:39 AM


Sending Jenny Wang's message to her Chairperson and UG Program Director
was, in my eyes,
really unnecessary. Even if it was just a nice try from Jenny Wang to
get her homework done,
this is really overdone.

Regards,

Stefan



Jim Quinn wrote:

} Don -
}
} College students should not broadcast messages seeking answers to
elementary questions.
} Additionally, the use of "ASAP"
} was a bad idea.
}
} JQuinn
}
} PS: I sent Jenny Wang's message to her Chairperson and UG Program
Director.



°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°
Stefan Geimer
MCDB Dept.
Yale University
P.O. Box 208103
New Haven, CT 06520-8103
U.S.A.

Tel.: 203/432-3473
Fax.: 203/432-6210

e-mail: stefan.geimer-at-yale.edu
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From daemon Fri Feb 8 19:42:15 2002



From: Helvey, Marc :      Marc.Helvey-at-vlsistd.com
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 17:33:35 -0800
Subject: calibration standard

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Hi Mark -

VLSI Standards is in the midst of releasing (the product is in beta at this
juncture) a NIST Traceable, 100 nm pitch standard for use with SEMs. The
accuracy is equal to or less than 1 nm in most cases. Besides 100 nm, it
will also be certified for 4 other pitch values. It will come in various
wafer / die form factors to be able to accommodate CD-SEMs utilizing
automated handlers, as found in the Semiconductor and related industries.

Please contact me directly offline and I'd be glad to provide you
information on this exciting new product.

Regards -

Marc Helvey
Strategic Accounts Manager
VLSI Standards, Inc.
3087 North First Street
San Jose, CA 95134-2006
Phone: (408) 428-1800, ext. 108
E-Mail: marc.helvey-at-vlsistd.com {mailto:marc.helvey-at-vlsistd.com}
Internet: http://www.vlsistandards.com




-----Original Message-----
} From: Windland, Mark J (MN14) [mailto:Mark.Windland-at-honeywell.com]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 7:51 AM
To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


We need to purchase a new calibration standard for our SEM that gets us down
to the next level. We need to have accuracy down to 0.010 microns. We have
been using the Geller MRS-3 and now are considering purchasing the MRS-4
traceable standard.
I believe this will give us what we need but I was wondering if there are
other standards out there that are better, the same, worse? I need to hear
from the calibration specialists out there.
Thanks,

Mark Windland
Honeywell
Minneapolis, Minnesota
763-954-2845


From daemon Fri Feb 8 21:12:10 2002



From: Dr Deborah Stenzel :      d.stenzel-at-qut.edu.au
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 22:57:06 -0600
Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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I don't think it is a simple answer to your questions. If the request is
like
the subject of these discussions, then I would say number three. If the
student has researched the basic information (showing an earnest effort
at learning), and asks for help with understanding what they have found,
or carrying it further, then I see no problem with the experts discussing
and feeding information to the student. Giving them "food for thought"
should not be a problem.

Darrell

Mike Bode {mb-at-Soft-Imaging.com} on 02/08/2002 06:19:42 PM

To: "'Microscopy-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com'" {Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com}
cc:


Hello Listers:

Looks like there are different opinions out there. Before this turns into a
flame war, I would personally like to know what the general opinion is. I
therefore propose a poll. Just send me an email with nothing but one of the
following numbers in the subject line, and I will tally those votes and
provide a summary in a week (if I get enough emails):

1) Students should work through their assignments alone. Let's not support
laziness at all.
2) We should help them help themselves by pointing them to general
microscopy books.
3) We should take their questions and point them to specific microscopy
books dealing with their problems
4) We should encourage them to contact us offline so we can test their
sincerity and then either help them or not. This should be posted on the
server to avoid redundancy.
5) We should help them with their questions by trying to answer them in a
general way
6) We should go all out and answer their questions as best as we can.

I hope the statistics will not be skewed by a zillion students who send me
"6" as an answer ;-)

Any suggestions are welcome! I also promise not to misuse the email
addresses!

} } } please send the email to mb-at-soft-imaging.com { { { { { {

mike

} } } } } } } } } } WE HAVE MOVED { { { { { { { { {
please make a note of the new address below

Michael Bode, Ph.D.
Soft Imaging System Corp.
12596 West Bayaud Avenue
Suite 300
Lakewood, CO 80228
===================================
phone: (888) FIND SIS
(303) 234-9270
fax: (303) 234-9271
email: mailto:info-at-soft-imaging.com
web: http://www.soft-imaging.com
===================================



-----Original Message-----
} From: Oakley, Jeff [mailto:oakleyj-at-rayovac.com]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:46 AM
To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


Tom,

You are correct, I am not an educator. I also agree with you whole
heartedly that when someone reads a text in search of information, they
learn a great deal more than they had planned on... It happens to me every
time I pick up a book in search of an answer to a question. I'm sure this
probably was the intent of the instructor.

The point I should have made in my previous post is that instead of
shutting
someone down and "scolding" them (which is exactly what some of the listers
did) for what appeared to be a Cliff's Notes research method, the person
should have been guided to useful web pages or texts that would have made
them find the answers for themselves (which other posters did - kudos to
those).

It is possible to be helpful while at the same time not giving someone a
free ride.

I don't think my batteries are dead, Tom, I just think we are operating at
different voltages.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
} From: Tom Phillips [mailto:PhillipsT-at-missouri.edu]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:26 AM
To: Oakley, Jeff
Cc: Microscopy-at-msa.microscopy.com


Dear all

I've been reading the discussions on this topic with interest, as a
lecturer who sets similar EM assignment questions for undergraduate
students.

Last year, a couple of my students posted their assignment questions
to the listserver. After an initial feeling of annoyance that the
students were being lazy, and not seeking out information for
themselves, I eventually decided that this probably wasn't such a bad
thing - as Mike said in his email, we are supposed to be teaching
students to identify and utilize different sources of information!

In my case, I hadn't directly told the class about the listserver, so
my students had either sought it out by themselves, or had actually
read through a list of suggested reference texts and websites which
had been given to them early in the semester. Either way, this was
something to be encouraged!

I certainly don't think the listserver is the place where we should
provide full and detailed answers to students' assignment questions -
and particularly not when demanded "ASAP", and without evidence of
the student having done any of their own homework on the topic!

However, I also share the views expressed in some earlier messages
that we are a useful "resource" for students. For those who have the
time and inclination to respond to students' requests, I support the
approach of offering some basic information (brief, easy to
understand) as a starting point, and then suggesting that the student
refer to texts, papers or other sources. Indeed, this is exactly
what happened with my students, and both presented assignments with
information gleaned from a wide variety of sources. Many thanks to
those of you who responded in this way.


Cheers
Deb
*****************************************************
Dr Deborah Stenzel
Lecturer (Microbiology)
School of Life Sciences
and
Applications Specialist (Biological)
Analytical Electron Microscopy Facility
Queensland University of Technology
GPO Box 2434
Brisbane 4001
Australia

Phone + 61 7 3864 5036
Fax + 61 7 3864 5100
email d.stenzel-at-qut.edu.au

http://www.sci.qut.edu.au/aemf


From daemon Fri Feb 8 23:09:18 2002



From: Peter Ingram :      p.ingram-at-cellbio.duke.edu
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 22:26:07 -0600
Subject: LKB Ultratome

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We have a perfectly good LKB Ultramicrotome ("Ultratome")
Model #2088 (circa. 1976) for which we have no need. We have several
others and we DO need the space! It also has most of the parts for a
cryokit.

If anyone is interested: its yours for FREE! Just come and
pick it up or arrange for shipment.

Please feel free to call or leave a message at any time.
--
Peter Ingram
Sr. Physicist, RTI
Adj. Professor of Pathology,
Duke University Medical Center
Box 90319
LaSalle Street Extension
DURHAM NC USA 27708-0319

Tel: (919) 660-2695
Fax: (919) 660-2671
e-mail: p.ingram-at-cellbio.duke.edu
http://152.3.167.174/AEM_LAB.html


From daemon Sat Feb 9 01:39:40 2002



From: pjp6 :      pjp6-at-dana.ucc.nau.edu
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 00:33:41 -0700
Subject: RE: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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In much less time than it took to find addis for Jenny Wang's chairperson and
program director he could have referred Jenny to Bozzola/Russell or any other
EM text for the answers. This string has become more about those who want to
educate and help vs. those who would judge and punish.

Still listening and learning.
Pete Polsgrove



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Pete Polsgrove
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micro2001p-at-netscape.net



From daemon Sat Feb 9 05:28:22 2002



From: Chris Jeffree :      c.jeffree-at-ed.ac.uk
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 11:23:33 -0000
Subject: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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I have been stunned by how many would deny answers to a student. I
have to confess that I did not analyse the enquirer's motives, and
offered some simple answers to her questions

Is the objection that the enquiry came via the internet, so was
directed to all on the list?
Would your reaction have been the same if the student made a more
personal, targeted approach
a) Called at your lab/office to ask questions
b) Wrote asking questions
c) Phoned/Faxed you asking questions

I think we have to acknowledge that the pre-internet world of the
printed page and the post-internet
world are totally different. Students are under immense pressure, not
least under the burgeoning weight of the paper literature, and simply
cannot afford the time to plough through roomfuls of books, however
good this would be for their souls. They need entry points to a
problem, and they should be congratulated for using all of the
facilities currently at their disposal to get there. If that changes
the way educators have to go about assessment of project work so be
it. That is our professional problem, not the student's problem. This
list has a significant educational role at all levels within research
and tertiary education, and I would be saddened if barriers are
erected against enquiries from students.


Dr. Chris Jeffree
University of Edinburgh
Biological Sciences EM Facility

Inveresk Cottage
26, Carberry Road
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Dr. Chris Jeffree
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Inveresk
Musselburgh
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EH21 8PR
Tel: +44 131 665 6062
FAX +44 131 653 6248
Mobile 07710 585 401



From daemon Sat Feb 9 05:40:39 2002



From: Ken Tiekotter :      tiekotte-at-up.edu
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 03:32:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Answers to Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Dear Gary and All,

As for "bad taste" from the MSA response, I taste no such displeasure.

I must say the questions asked were vague and rather general. Have I
missed something? In all this communication, have we heard from the course
professor explaining, defending, or otherwise making a statement as to
what he or she was requiring of the student?! Why is not the professor
explaining this material to the student? The professor should be the
FIRST resource, or at least provide the student with a rudimentary
understanding of the topic and perhaps assigning readings from handouts or
materials on reserve in the library.

I teach a dedicated biomicroscopy course (optical light microscopy, TEM
amd SEM) to upper division biology students, and have for 9 years. I
would never just suggest students be turned out to fend on their own. I
provide a a number of reserve textbooks and a huge number of handouts. I
ALWAYS suggest if students are having a difficult time finding answers to
questions I have proposed, they come to me FIRST!! In this manner, I
have control over the ratio of student ability and information available.

I believe the hallmark of an educator is to entice and DIRECT the student
in a manner of investigation, not to just through out a bunch of
questions, allowing the student to randomly be come up with the answers,
some of which depending of the source may be incorrect.

I must admit, when I saw the original email, my thoughts were divided into
two direction: 1) here is a student who is looking for quick answers to
some vague, rather general questions; and 2) here is a professor who is
too busy with something else and has not put forth the foundation from
which the student could asked specific questions about the general topics,
e.g., "I have read this about the subject and do not understand. Is there
someone on the listserver who can explain it differently from how I
interpret the subject?"

Again, to some extent this is the responsibility of the professor.

Enough said...

Ken
--
Ken Tiekotter, Adjunct Professor
The University of Portland
Department of Biology
5000 N. Willamette Blvd.
Portland, OR 97203





From daemon Sat Feb 9 05:58:56 2002



From: Ken Tiekotter :      tiekotte-at-up.edu
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 03:50:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: help with buffer

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Shea,

According to 'Staining Procedures', Edited by George Clark, 4th
edition, Williams and Wilkins, 1981, page 22:

Hanks' Balanced Salt Solution (Hanks' BSS)

1) CaCl2- 2H2O 185.5 mg/liter
2) KCl 400.0 mg/liter
3) KH2PO4 60.0 mg/liter
4) MgSO4-7H2O 200.0 mg/liter
5) NaCl 8000.0 mg/liter
6) NaHCO3 350.0 mg/liter
7) Na2HPO4 47.5 mg/liter
8) Dextrose 1000.0 mg/liter
9) Phenol Red, Na 17.0 mg/liter

Good luck!
Ken


--
Ken Tiekotter, Adjunct Professor
The University of Portland
Department of Biology
5000 N. Willamette Blvd.
Portland, OR 97203





From daemon Sat Feb 9 10:35:42 2002



From: rnessler :      rnessler-at-blue.weeg.uiowa.edu
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 10:27:25 -0600
Subject: RE: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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} ===== Original Message From Dr Deborah Stenzel {d.stenzel-at-qut.edu.au} =====
Hello Group,
I agree with Deb's post. Following this thread, I got to thinking that it
is maybe time WE (as educator/citizens) do a little reading. Times they are a
changin'. Try to find this article: Get Ready for the Net Generation, by Mark
L. Alch, taken from the February 2000 issue of Training & Development. I
found it in the Human Resources 01/02 Annual Editions, ISBN 0-07-243342-6.
The way the new generations are learning happens to be a little different than
the way most of us did. We not only have to understand how they learn, but we
will also have to understand what motivates them once we hire them.
Randy



} Dear all
} Last year, a couple of my students posted their assignment questions
} to the listserver. After an initial feeling of annoyance that the
} students were being lazy, and not seeking out information for
} themselves, I eventually decided that this probably wasn't such a bad
} thing - as Mike said in his email, we are supposed to be teaching
} students to identify and utilize different sources of information!
}
} In my case, I hadn't directly told the class about the listserver, so
} my students had either sought it out by themselves, or had actually
} read through a list of suggested reference texts and websites which
} had been given to them early in the semester. Either way, this was
} something to be encouraged!
}
} I certainly don't think the listserver is the place where we should
} provide full and detailed answers to students' assignment questions -
} and particularly not when demanded "ASAP", and without evidence of
} the student having done any of their own homework on the topic!
}
} However, I also share the views expressed in some earlier messages
} that we are a useful "resource" for students. For those who have the
} time and inclination to respond to students' requests, I support the
} approach of offering some basic information (brief, easy to
} understand) as a starting point, and then suggesting that the student
} refer to texts, papers or other sources. Indeed, this is exactly
} what happened with my students, and both presented assignments with
} information gleaned from a wide variety of sources. Many thanks to
} those of you who responded in this way.
}
}
} Cheers
} Deb
} *****************************************************
} Dr Deborah Stenzel
} Lecturer (Microbiology)
} School of Life Sciences
} and
} Applications Specialist (Biological)
} Analytical Electron Microscopy Facility
} Queensland University of Technology
} GPO Box 2434
} Brisbane 4001
} Australia
}
} Phone + 61 7 3864 5036
} Fax + 61 7 3864 5100
} email d.stenzel-at-qut.edu.au
}
} http://www.sci.qut.edu.au/aemf



From daemon Sat Feb 9 12:58:27 2002



From: Richard Cole :      rcole-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 13:51:23 -0500
Subject: RE: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Dear All

I can not believe all the unnecessary and self-righteous email one student
has generated by asking a few questions! For those of you out there who
feel it was "wrong" for a student to ask these questions, don't answer them.
But as for emailing her Dept. head, when did this list become some sort of
regulated police like forum? If this is what it has degraded to, I what
off! As I tell my children and student alike there are no stupid or bad
questions. As professional (at least I thought we all were before this) I
believe that it is not only out duty but our obligation to help other learn.
I don't mean doing there homework for them, but the response that this
girl/women received embarrassed and ashamed me. I simple reply guiding her
were to search for the answers could have saved everyone a lot of time and
seem energy as well. As for people in general asking questions that the
answers can be found in books, again if you don't want to answer them,
don't. As for me, I am not the smartest man in the world nor do not know
every thing and naively thought that this is what forum/list servers like
this one were for. Guess I was wrong

Richard Cole
Research Scientist III
Director of the Laser Microsurgery and Advanced Light Microscopy Core Unit
Wadsworth Center
P.O. Box 509 Albany N.Y. 12201-0509
518-474-7048 Phone
518-486-4901 Fax



From daemon Sat Feb 9 14:13:30 2002



From: Tina Carvalho :      tina-at-pbrc.hawaii.edu
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 10:06:34 -1000 (HST)
Subject: RE: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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I looked into the background of the student's course early on and sent a
brief explanation to the List, twice, but it never arrived, as far as I
can tell. I'll tack in on below. One of the points of this biomedical
engineering course that has been overlooked is that it is a PBL course.

PBL is a new philosophy of teaching that is being used, in part, by
various medical schools and othe programs. I don't know a whole lot about
it, but I know it exists because the University of Hawaii was the first
place to embrace PBL wholly, instead of partially as at other
institutions. Basically, the medical students here have no formal courses,
but are thrown directly out into the clinics from day one, and are
encouraged to learn what they need to know to do their "jobs" fairly
independently. I'm sure this is an oversimplification, but not by a
lot. There was a hue and cry from many of the instructors - how do you
learn gross anatomy without a gross anatomy class and a cadaver? But I
guess they worked it out. When I ask the current crop of students if they
like it, they say they do. There's more of an emphasis on learning by
doing and asking than just sitting in classrooms all day and with books
all night.

However, here's the point - they are encouraged to go out and learn how to
find answers in the world, using all resources from the library to asking
experts to the Internet. And they are told not to just ask the
teacher".

Do I agree with this method? Mostly no, probably because I didn't learn
that way, and I'm old enough to be kinda set in my ways. . Is it
working? Apparently yes. Now that I'm not an official student, is that
the way I learn *now*? Yes, it is!

This is not an endorsement of the PBL system (y'all need to do some
research on it to understand how the philosophy, as do I), but merely an
explanation of why the students are asking the questions. And then ignore
or guide them, whatever you wish.

Aloha,
Tina


Message that did not reach the List:

I have received several emails recently about TEMs, as have several of you
as well as this List. At first I dismissed tham as being at about the same
level as Mrs. Jones' 6th grade science class who each individually emailed
me to ask "How does an electron microscope work?" However, I looked into
this and found out that this recent spate are from a Biomedical
Engineering class at Georgia Tech. There are 60 students, split up into
teams, involved in a Problem Based Learning curriculum, which encourages
using all resources available, from the library to interviewing
experts. Their project is an interesting one - although I deleted the
original questions, I think it involves designing an original, viable
improvement for the electron microscope, especially in areas that would
allow them to create a 4D database of living cells and their cellular
functions.

I received a couple of messages from students who had apparently done
their library research and were able to ask thoughtful, reasoned
questions. I feel that the ones who simply regurgitate the instructors'
list of questions *do* need to do more background research and then
formulate specific questions and direct them to the particular experts
in the field. But they have only a couple of weeks on this assignment, so
I guess I understand their "spamming" the List to find those experts!

I thought giving you all the background on the project would help you
decide how to respond to the messages. It is an interesting mental
exercise to think about how to build such an electron microscope. Perhaps
they will!


****************************************************************************
* Tina (Weatherby) Carvalho * tina-at-pbrc.hawaii.edu *
* Biological Electron Microscope Facility * (808) 956-6251 *
* University of Hawaii at Manoa * http://www.pbrc.hawaii.edu/bemf*
****************************************************************************






From daemon Sun Feb 10 11:39:53 2002



From: flcy-at-att.net
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 17:21:38 +0000
Subject: Re: help with buffer

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From daemon Sun Feb 10 20:31:57 2002



From: max.sidorov-at-amd.com
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 18:22:04 -0800
Subject: TEM: ctfExplorer update (v. 0.999a)

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Dear All:

FYI: ctfExplorer has been updated and it is still free for all.

New features/improvements/fixes:

- Corrected an error in the formula used for Focal Spread calculation which caused too strong damping by temporal envelope at high frequencies. Thanks to Michael O'Keefe, Peter Tiemeijer and Uwe Lucken for pinpointing this error.

- Added a posibility to change values for high voltage and objective lens current instabilities (along with chromatic aberration and energy spread they affect the value of focal spread)

- Added a possibility of editing/saving/restoring of the microscope list

To the best of my knowledge, the software does not have any nasty bugs. It
is tested under Windows 95/98/NT4/2000.

Please give it a try. Please DO direct your suggestions and comments to sidorov-at-yahoo.com
I hope you'll find the software useful.

Here is the link: http://clik.to/ctfexplorer (always use this link. it will
direct you to the right location). Direct link: http://www.maxsidorov.com/ctfexplorer

Enjoy,
__________________________________
Max Sidorov, Ph.D.
max.sidorov-at-amd.com


----------Additional Info----------
ctfExplorer is a highly interactive program which calculates/displays the contrast
transfer function of TEMs. I know that there are similar programs floating
around but ctfexplorer does not only 1d but also 2d calculations/display
with 2-fold and 3-fold astigmatism imposed. There are other unique features
to it. All parameters (defocus, voltage, Cs, etc) can be changed
interactively.

Features
- Calculates 1-Dimensional CTF
- Calculates 2-Dimensional CTF
- Calculates Defocus Map
- Calculates point-to-point resolution, Lichte defocus and info limit
- Shows the effects of 2-Fold and 3-Fold astigmatism
- Allows to change Defocus, 2-Fold and 3-Fold astigmatism in real time
- Shows what happens to 1D CTF in different directions when there's astigmatism
- Displays the damping envelopes
- Allows to select a microscope from a list of microscopes
- Allows to create a custom microscope
- Allows to change HT, Cs, Cc, Energy Spread, Convergence for any microscope
- 2 modes of operation: CTF Explorer (to see everything) and CTF Plotter
- Compares 2 microscopes or 2 settings for 1 microscope
- Saves 1D CTF, 2D CTF and "Defocus Map" as bitmaps or metafiles
- Exports 1D plots to tab-delimited text format





From daemon Sun Feb 10 22:01:41 2002



From: hazrat.hussain-at-iw.uni-halle.de ()
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 21:55:57 -0600
Subject: Ask-A-Microscopist:TEM block copolymer

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Below is the result of your feedback form (NJZFM-ultra-55). It was
submitted by (hazrat.hussain-at-iw.uni-halle) from
http://www.msa.microscopy.com/Ask-A-Microscopist.html on Sunday,
February 10, 2002 at 11:35:50
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Email: hazrat.hussain-at-iw.uni-halle
Name: Hussain

Organization: University of Halle

Education: Graduate College

Location: Germany

Question: Dear Sir,
I have stained a block copolymer isothermally crystallized samples
with RuO4 vapors. The block copolymers constitute poly(ethylene
oxide)(semicrystalline block) and poly(perfluorohexylethyl
methacrylate) as second block.
The structure is as
PFMA-b-PEO-b-PFMA
PEO block length is 227 EO units(20000 g/mol) and each PFMA block
was 5-7 PFMA units.
The TEM morphology that we got from this sample was showing a
layered or lamellar structure.There are dark lines and bright lines.
Now I dont know, which block has been stained with RuO4.
The second question is again the staining assigning problem, I got
TEM pictures from solutions of the same block copolymers, the samples
were stained again with the same dye. we got some spherical micelles
in the TEM picture, but we dont know, the staining blocks.
I hope u will consider answer my questions. I will be grateful
with my best regards
Hussain

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From: Dr Adam Papworth :      ajp5-at-liverpool.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:08:15 +0000
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From daemon Mon Feb 11 06:55:12 2002



From: James M. Ehrman :      jehrman-at-mta.ca
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:48:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Answers to Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Gee, maybe this whole thread is just a Sociology experiment to gauge
the response of a small group of specialists to a contentious issue! For
my $0.02 ($0.033 Canadian), pick up a copy of "Silicon Snake Oil" by
Cliff Stoll. Relevant reading, I think.

Cheers,

Jim

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From daemon Mon Feb 11 07:50:21 2002



From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:40:08 -0500
Subject: staining of block copolymers

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-- [ From: Garber, Charles A. * EMC.Ver #3.1 ] --

Hussain Hazrat wrote:
============================================
Question: Dear Sir,
I have stained a block copolymer isothermally crystallized samples
with RuO4 vapors. The block copolymers constitute poly(ethylene
oxide)(semicrystalline block) and poly(perfluorohexylethyl
methacrylate) as second block.
The structure is as
PFMA-b-PEO-b-PFMA
PEO block length is 227 EO units(20000 g/mol) and each PFMA block
was 5-7 PFMA units.
The TEM morphology that we got from this sample was showing a
layered or lamellar structure.There are dark lines and bright lines.
Now I dont know, which block has been stained with RuO4.
The second question is again the staining assigning problem, I got
TEM pictures from solutions of the same block copolymers, the samples
were stained again with the same dye. we got some spherical micelles
in the TEM picture, but we dont know, the staining blocks.
I hope u will consider answer my questions. I will be grateful
with my best regards
Hussain
========================================================
This kind of question is extremely difficult to "call" on the basis of first
principles (or logic). You really need to see one or two "knowns", and then
you can see which way the area percent of the dark vs. white changes.

If you are seeing some "spherical" features from solution precipitation, and
it is just a guess, it might be that you are seeing segregation of
homopolymer into a more traditional kind of morphology for these kinds of
systems. At least when we have seen such features in other block copolymer
systems that was our conclusion.

Chuck

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From daemon Mon Feb 11 07:50:26 2002



From: Jon Ekman :      ekman-at-bio.fsu.edu
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:45:19 -0500
Subject: EM: Exploding Kevex LN2 level sensor

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Hi all,

Just wanted to give a heads up for anyone with older Kevex LN2 cooled
EDS systems. On Friday, our Kevex LN2 level sensor just exploded after
15years of service. Normally we remove the sensor (unplugged from the
system) and place it horizontal in a special holder while we fill the
LN2 then we dry it off and put it back in place. Today the metal top
blew off and hit me in the leg. No injuries except the loud bang may
have shaved a year or so off my life. Luckly, we had a second sensor
on hand for replacement.

If any one has a good explanation why the metal cover decided to tear
itself away from the Styrofoam insulation after all these years we would
like to hear from
you.

TIA

Jon Ekman
Florida State University
Biological Science Imaging Resource
119 Bio Unit I, 4370
Tallahassee, FL 32306
tel: 850.644.6519
fax: 850.644.0481



From daemon Mon Feb 11 07:51:48 2002



From: Petr Schauer :      Petr-at-isibrno.cz
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 14:46:09 +0100
Subject: Microscopy Laboratories

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Dear Microscopists,

Let me inform you the list of microscopy laboratories at the "Petr's
Microscopy Resources" has been completely rebuilt. You can check it
at the
http://www.petr.isibrno.cz/microscopy/laboratories.php .

Furthermore, the form for a new link submission has been revised to a
great extent. Therefore, the addition of a new link to your
laboratory is very easy and safe now, and your submission will be
very appreciated. You can find the submission form at the new location
http://www.petr.isibrno.cz/microscopy/PMRform.php .

Regards,

Petr Schauer
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From daemon Mon Feb 11 07:57:10 2002



From: Michael Herron :      herro001-at-umn.edu
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 07:51:11 -0600
Subject: Re: Nikon Coolpix vs Olympus C-3030 et al.

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All,

OK so it is a given that consumer grade cameras have relativly poor low
light performance. That said, are there cameras that have better than
average lowlight performance? Are any of the consumer cameras capable
of binning?

Mike


"Mardinly, John" wrote:
}
}
} John;
} You are correct about the small CCDs of consumer digital cameras
} have sever performance deficiencies due to their small pixel size. The F707
} and other consumer digital cameras that use the same chip (2/3"-Nikon 5000
} and Olympus E20N) suffer from noise even in visible light photographs. The
} Nikon D1X and the new Canon EOS 1D(advertised 11.5 µm pixels) are
} significant improvements, but cost $6000 just for the camera body! One
} organization addressing this problem is
} http://www.fredmiranda.com/Action_profilesPage/index.html where they discuss
} and sell Photoshop plug-ins for noise reduction. Another digital camera site
} I really like is:
} http://www.imaging-resource.com/
}

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/ 612-626-4321 Mpls MN 55455 /
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From daemon Mon Feb 11 08:00:06 2002



From: Paul.Nolan-at-alcan.com
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:54:12 -0500
Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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I see we have the equivalent of a prison snitch in our midst ..or more
appropriately in this case ..a school yard tattle-tale
Jim Quinn wrote:

} Don -
}
} College students should not broadcast messages seeking answers to
elementary questions.
} Additionally, the use of "ASAP"
} was a bad idea.
}
} JQuinn
}
} PS: I sent Jenny Wang's message to her Chairperson and UG Program
Director.



Paul D. Nolan
Electron Optics

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P.O.Box 8400, 945 Princess Street
Kingston, Ontario K7L 5L9

Tel: (613) 541-2066
Fax: (613) 541-2134
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From daemon Mon Feb 11 08:39:37 2002



From: sterling stoudenmire :      sstouden-at-thelinks.com
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:37:55 -0600
Subject: RE: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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yes, "Education is a bueaucracy, learning is a biological activity!
The instructor serves as a resource with the ability to interact with and
to direct the inquiry of the student, but learning happens only at the
pleasure of the student. Sterling Stoudenmire, 1982.


At 10:27 AM 2/9/02 -0600, rnessler wrote:
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From daemon Mon Feb 11 10:01:05 2002



From: Mike Bode :      mb-at-Soft-Imaging.com
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:55:14 -0700
Subject: RE: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Listers,

I have been getting emails with responses, but right now the numbers are
probably too low to be statistically significant. I'll wait until the end of
the week.

Also, please note: I had requested the emails to be sent directly to me,
because I did not want to overload the listserver. Again, please send the
responses to mb-at-soft-imaging.com.

mike

} } } } } } } } } } WE HAVE MOVED { { { { { { { { {
please make a note of the new address below

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From daemon Mon Feb 11 10:31:59 2002



From: David R Hull :      David.R.Hull-at-grc.nasa.gov
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:25:10 -0500
Subject: Re: EM: Exploding Kevex LN2 level sensor

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The only thing I could think that could cause this would be ice
trapping LN2 in the sensor tube that then warmed up causing N2 gas
pressure high enough to pop the top. The design of our sensors have
the BNC connection on the top of the cap. Did the wires come out
with the metal top?



}
} Hi all,
}
} Just wanted to give a heads up for anyone with older Kevex LN2 cooled
} EDS systems. On Friday, our Kevex LN2 level sensor just exploded after
} 15years of service. Normally we remove the sensor (unplugged from the
} system) and place it horizontal in a special holder while we fill the
} LN2 then we dry it off and put it back in place. Today the metal top
} blew off and hit me in the leg. No injuries except the loud bang may
} have shaved a year or so off my life. Luckly, we had a second sensor
} on hand for replacement.
}
} If any one has a good explanation why the metal cover decided to
} tear itself away from the Styrofoam insulation after all these years
} we would like to hear from
} you.
}
} TIA
}
} Jon Ekman
} Florida State University
} Biological Science Imaging Resource
} 119 Bio Unit I, 4370
} Tallahassee, FL 32306
} tel: 850.644.6519
} fax: 850.644.0481


--
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NASA Glenn Research Center at Lewis Field
Advanced Metallics Branch
Mail Stop 49-1
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Cleveland, OH 44135

(216) 433-3281
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From daemon Mon Feb 11 10:55:54 2002



From: Geoff McAuliffe :      mcauliff-at-umdnj.edu
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:50:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Name-calling is not appropriate in this fourm. You own Mr. Quinn and the
entire list an apology

'"Paul.Nolan-at-alcan.com"-at-sparc5.microscopy.com wrote:

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} I see we have the equivalent of a prison snitch in our midst ..or more
} appropriately in this case ..a school yard tattle-tale
} Jim Quinn wrote:
}
} } Don -
} }
} } College students should not broadcast messages seeking answers to
} elementary questions.
} } Additionally, the use of "ASAP"
} } was a bad idea.
} }
} } JQuinn
} }
} } PS: I sent Jenny Wang's message to her Chairperson and UG Program
} Director.
}
} Paul D. Nolan
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From daemon Mon Feb 11 11:06:02 2002



From: Leona Cohen-Gould :      lcgould-at-med.cornell.edu
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:56:41 -0500
Subject: digging up OLD techiniques

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Hi Listers,
I have a client who is writing a grant and has "re-discovered" some
old techniques that could be very useful in her research. The
problem is, I'm having trouble finding a source or sources for the
reagents. Any ideas on where we could get the following?
Thoria Sol ( aqueous colloidal thorium, once sold by Polysciences. It
does not appear in their on-line catalog, nor in any of the other
catalogs I've checked) to be used for pinocytotic uptake to label
lysosomes. We could use ferritin, but that's so messy (in my hands,
anyway).
the full protocol for Gomori's method of acid phosphatase labelling.
I have the citation on order from Inter-Library loan (Arch.
Pathol.1941!!!) but don't know when it will come it.
Are the reagents still available? Has anyone out there done either
of these techniques? Any suggestions for alternates (preferably not
immuno)?
Thanks a million,
Lee


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From daemon Mon Feb 11 11:10:19 2002



From: Chris Jeffree :      cjeffree-at-srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:04:00 +0000
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Couldn't find a paper copy in our library so
I downloaded a synopsis from the web, along with the reviews.
Very, very funny, but not true. His dinosaurian heritage is showing,
and paper is definitely dead. Silicon is the world's commonest
material, not cellulose. Scientific publishing has ripped us all off.
We have ownership of the content, we did all the work, and they
charge us so much for the journals our libraries cannot afford the
subscriptions. Nor can universities afford the upkeep of the
libraries. There used to be departmental libraries here in every
department. Not any more. There was a time when Universities
could afford the upkeep of their physical establishments. Now
they're selling of the paintings to keep up with the maintenance.
The revolution is coming, and when it does paper journals will be
first against the wall. Twenty years from now, maybe sooner,
scientists will publish online, and the last 50 years of publishing
will be accessible online from anywhere in the world, and many
tertiary education courses will be distributed, campusless,
attended by students wherever they happen to live in the world.
And the educators? They'll be made by Intel ......

jmtc
Chris

} Gee, maybe this whole thread is just a Sociology experiment to gauge
} the response of a small group of specialists to a contentious issue! For
} my $0.02 ($0.033 Canadian), pick up a copy of "Silicon Snake Oil" by
} Cliff Stoll. Relevant reading, I think.
}
} Cheers,
}
} Jim
}
} --
} James M. Ehrman
} Digital Microscopy Facility
} Mount Allison University
} Sackville, NB E4L 1G7
} CANADA
}
} phone: 506-364-2519
} fax: 506-364-2505
} email: jehrman-at-mta.ca
} www: http://www.mta.ca/~jehrman
}
}
}


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Institute of Cell and Molecular Biology
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King's Buildings, Mayfield Road
EDINBURGH, EH9 3JN, Scotland, UK
Tel. #44 (0) 131 650 5554
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Mobile 07710 585 401
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From daemon Mon Feb 11 11:18:52 2002



From: Warren E Straszheim :      wesaia-at-iastate.edu
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:29:17 -0600
Subject: Re: EM: Exploding Kevex LN2 level sensor

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Mike,
#3, keeping in mind the possible limited sources available to the student
(high school students may not have *any* EM books available in their
library---so they need to be pointed to alternate information sources).
Henry

Henry Eichelberger, Manager
Electron Microscopy Facility
Department of Biological Sciences
Binghamton University
Binghamton, NY 13902-6000

phone: (607) 777-2682
fax: (607) 777-6521
e-mail: heichelb-at-binghamton.edu

-----Original Message-----
} From: Mike Bode [mailto:mb-at-soft-imaging.com]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 6:20 PM
To: 'Microscopy-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com'


Hello Listers:

Looks like there are different opinions out there. Before this turns into a
flame war, I would personally like to know what the general opinion is. I
therefore propose a poll. Just send me an email with nothing but one of the
following numbers in the subject line, and I will tally those votes and
provide a summary in a week (if I get enough emails):

1) Students should work through their assignments alone. Let's not support
laziness at all.
2) We should help them help themselves by pointing them to general
microscopy books.
3) We should take their questions and point them to specific microscopy
books dealing with their problems
4) We should encourage them to contact us offline so we can test their
sincerity and then either help them or not. This should be posted on the
server to avoid redundancy.
5) We should help them with their questions by trying to answer them in a
general way
6) We should go all out and answer their questions as best as we can.

I hope the statistics will not be skewed by a zillion students who send me
"6" as an answer ;-)

Any suggestions are welcome! I also promise not to misuse the email
addresses!

} } } please send the email to mb-at-soft-imaging.com { { { { { {

mike

} } } } } } } } } } WE HAVE MOVED { { { { { { { { {
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-----Original Message-----
} From: Oakley, Jeff [mailto:oakleyj-at-rayovac.com]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:46 AM
To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com


Tom,

You are correct, I am not an educator. I also agree with you whole
heartedly that when someone reads a text in search of information, they
learn a great deal more than they had planned on... It happens to me every
time I pick up a book in search of an answer to a question. I'm sure this
probably was the intent of the instructor.

The point I should have made in my previous post is that instead of shutting
someone down and "scolding" them (which is exactly what some of the listers
did) for what appeared to be a Cliff's Notes research method, the person
should have been guided to useful web pages or texts that would have made
them find the answers for themselves (which other posters did - kudos to
those).

It is possible to be helpful while at the same time not giving someone a
free ride.

I don't think my batteries are dead, Tom, I just think we are operating at
different voltages.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
} From: Tom Phillips [mailto:PhillipsT-at-missouri.edu]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:26 AM
To: Oakley, Jeff
Cc: Microscopy-at-msa.microscopy.com


I vaguely recall the cap coming off of our Kevex cap years ago, but without
near so much excitement. I think it just worked loose. A check of the wires
and a little bit of epoxy and the cap was on again and has been fine since.

I can't remember if the dipstick was glued tightly into the Styrofoam plug.
If it was, I could see pressure building up under the cap. I don't think
the metal on ours was not glued all the way around.

Warren

At 11:25 AM 2/11/02 -0500, you wrote:

} The only thing I could think that could cause this would be ice trapping
} LN2 in the sensor tube that then warmed up causing N2 gas pressure high
} enough to pop the top. The design of our sensors have the BNC connection
} on the top of the cap. Did the wires come out with the metal top?
}
} }
} } Hi all,
} }
} } Just wanted to give a heads up for anyone with older Kevex LN2 cooled
} } EDS systems. On Friday, our Kevex LN2 level sensor just exploded after
} } 15years of service. Normally we remove the sensor (unplugged from the
} } system) and place it horizontal in a special holder while we fill the
} } LN2 then we dry it off and put it back in place. Today the metal top
} } blew off and hit me in the leg. No injuries except the loud bang may
} } have shaved a year or so off my life. Luckly, we had a second sensor
} } on hand for replacement.
} }
} } If any one has a good explanation why the metal cover decided to tear
} } itself away from the Styrofoam insulation after all these years we would
} } like to hear from
} } you.
} }
} } TIA
} }
} } Jon Ekman
} } Florida State University
} } Biological Science Imaging Resource
} } 119 Bio Unit I, 4370
} } Tallahassee, FL 32306
} } tel: 850.644.6519
} } fax: 850.644.0481



From daemon Mon Feb 11 13:32:00 2002



From: gary.m.brown-at-exxonmobil.com
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:25:25 -0600
Subject: Re: staining of block copolymers

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Hussain,

To answer your question you need to know, among other things, the
specificity of interaction between RuO4 and the comonomers that comprise
your block copolymer. I suggest that you consult the literature for
reactivity of RuO4 with your materials. I usually start with Sawyer and
Grubbs book, Polymer Microscopy. I know that the first edition has
information that should help you.

Good luck,

Gary M. Brown
ExxonMobil Chemical Company
Baytown Polymers Center
5200 Bayway Drive
Baytown, Texas 77520-2101
phone: (281) 834-2387
fax: (281) 834-2395
e-mail: Gary.M.Brown-at-ExxonMobil.com



"Garber,
Charles A." To: MICROSCOPY BB
{cgarber-at-2spi.c {Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com}
om} cc:
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Hussain Hazrat wrote:
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Question: Dear Sir,
I have stained a block copolymer isothermally crystallized samples
with RuO4 vapors. The block copolymers constitute poly(ethylene
oxide)(semicrystalline block) and poly(perfluorohexylethyl
methacrylate) as second block.
The structure is as
PFMA-b-PEO-b-PFMA
PEO block length is 227 EO units(20000 g/mol) and each PFMA block
was 5-7 PFMA units.
The TEM morphology that we got from this sample was showing a
layered or lamellar structure.There are dark lines and bright lines.
Now I dont know, which block has been stained with RuO4.
The second question is again the staining assigning problem, I got
TEM pictures from solutions of the same block copolymers, the samples
were stained again with the same dye. we got some spherical micelles
in the TEM picture, but we dont know, the staining blocks.
I hope u will consider answer my questions. I will be grateful
with my best regards
Hussain
========================================================
This kind of question is extremely difficult to "call" on the basis of
first
principles (or logic). You really need to see one or two "knowns", and
then
you can see which way the area percent of the dark vs. white changes.

If you are seeing some "spherical" features from solution precipitation,
and
it is just a guess, it might be that you are seeing segregation of
homopolymer into a more traditional kind of morphology for these kinds of
systems. At least when we have seen such features in other block copolymer
systems that was our conclusion.

Chuck

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From daemon Mon Feb 11 14:48:22 2002



From: Mike Jercinovic :      mjj-at-geo.umass.edu
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:39:23 -0500
Subject: Post-Doc announcement

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All,
Here is an announcement for a post-doc opportunity here at UMass. Please
pass this along to anyone who you think might be interested.

thanks!
Mike Jercinovic


POST-DOC POSITION: MICROPROBE MONAZITE GEOCHRONOLOGY

The Department of Geosciences at the University of Massachusetts invites
applications for a Post-Doctoral Position in Geology. This two-year
position is specifically aimed at the rapidly emerging techniques of
electron microprobe analysis in geochronologic applications. UMass is
currently developing an optimized electron microprobe with Cameca, France
that is specifically designed for the exploration of techniques for age
mapping and dating of minerals (e.g. monazite, zircon) and trace element
analysis. This project includes optimization on virtually all fronts,
hardware, software, and technique development. One future direction will
involve synthesis and analysis of standards for calibration and background
measurement studies. The successful applicant will collaborate with UMass
Geosciences faculty (and associates) and with Cameca, and will be directly
involved with improvements and modifications to software, continued
evaluation of analytical techniques, synthesis and characterization of
standard materials, and application of the new techniques to geologic
problems. Applicants must have completed a Ph.D. in Geology, materials
science, or other physical science, with preference given to those with
significant experience in electron microprobe analysis, x-ray spectrometry,
materials microanalysis, and/or scientific programming.

Please send a letter of application, resume, and two reference letters to
Michael L. Williams, Dept. of Geosciences, University of Massachusetts, 611
North Pleasant Street, Amherst, MA 01003-9279. The University of
Massachusetts is an Equal-Opportunity Affirmative -Action Employer; women
and members of minority groups are encouraged to apply.

Review of applicants will begin March 15th; the position will remain open
until a successful candidate is identified.


****************
Michael J. Jercinovic
Assistant Professor
Department of Geosciences
University of Massachusetts
611 North Pleasant Street
Amherst, MA 01003-9297
E-Mail: mjj-at-geo.umass.edu
Phone: (413) 545-2431
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Electron Microprobe Laboratory
http://www.geo.umass.edu/probe/probe.html




From daemon Mon Feb 11 14:48:27 2002



From: John Twilley :      jtwilley-at-sprynet.com
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:50:08 -0500
Subject: Re: Nikon Coolpix vs Olympus C-3030 et al.

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For a look at what's coming down the path, see today's (Monday, February
11th) New York Times article on Foveon or that company's website. (I
have no financial interest in the company and was previously unaware of
them.)

John Twilley
Conservation Scientist

Michael Herron wrote:

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} All,
}
} OK so it is a given that consumer grade cameras have relativly poor low
} light performance. That said, are there cameras that have better than
} average lowlight performance? Are any of the consumer cameras capable
} of binning?
}
} Mike
}
}
} "Mardinly, John" wrote:
}
} }
} } John;
} } You are correct about the small CCDs of consumer digital cameras
} } have sever performance deficiencies due to their small pixel size. The F707
} } and other consumer digital cameras that use the same chip (2/3"-Nikon 5000
} } and Olympus E20N) suffer from noise even in visible light photographs. The
} } Nikon D1X and the new Canon EOS 1D(advertised 11.5 µm pixels) are
} } significant improvements, but cost $6000 just for the camera body! One
} } organization addressing this problem is
} } http://www.fredmiranda.com/Action_profilesPage/index.html where they discuss
} } and sell Photoshop plug-ins for noise reduction. Another digital camera site
} } I really like is:
} } http://www.imaging-resource.com/
} }



From daemon Mon Feb 11 15:03:29 2002



From: Greg Barclay :      gbarclay-at-trinidad.net
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:55:26 -0500
Subject: Wanted: Critical Point Freeze Drier and Sputter Coater

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Hello,
I am setting up a TEM/SEM lab and I need a vacuum coater and
critical point freeze drier for the SEM. I cannot afford new equipment and I will
consider any used but still functioning equipment, complete with manuals.

Thank you.

Greg Barclay

Dr.G.F. Barclay
Plant Science Unit, Dept. of Life Sciences
University of the West Indies
St. Augustine,
Trinidad and Tobago, West Indies




From daemon Mon Feb 11 15:42:50 2002



From: Ayten Celik :      celik-at-students.uiuc.edu
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:36:21 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Suggestions on sapphire samples

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Dear all,

I'm trying to prepare tem samples from sapphire.
There is a thin metal film on the sapphire substrate, as well.
I don't have too much experience in this field so, I would greatly
appreciate any suggestions about preparing tem samples from sapphire.

Previously, I have prepared couple of Si samples but, sapphire seems to be
much harder and difficult to deal with.


Thank you very much,
Ayten C. Aktas.



From daemon Mon Feb 11 16:53:05 2002



From: cassel-at-biology.queensu.ca ()
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:35:17 -0600
Subject: Ask-A-Microscopist: Recommendation Needed LM

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Below is the result of your feedback form (NJZFM-ultra-55). It was
submitted by (cassel-at-biology.queensu.ca) from
http://www.msa.microscopy.com/Ask-A-Microscopist.html on Monday,
February 11, 2002 at 15:05:08
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Email: cassel-at-biology.queensu.ca
Name: Stephen Casselman

Organization: Queen's University

Education: Graduate College

Location: Kingston, Ontario, Canada

Question: I am involved in a project which is examining sperm in
fish, we will be using a video camera and a microscope to film motile
sperm. Much of this work will be done in remote locations. We are
interested in buying a new microscope that would able to handle
frequent transportation to these remote locations. Ideally the scope
would have a padded case specifically for it to be transported in.
We generally use a 40 X objective lense. Does such a durable scope
exist?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------


From daemon Mon Feb 11 16:53:12 2002



From: ekomarnicki-at-MacDermid.com
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:35:31 -0600
Subject: Re: Carbon Coater Help

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Lou, have you looked at the Denton Desktop II as a backup or is that too
small for your needs?

Ed


From daemon Mon Feb 11 16:56:10 2002



From: zaluzec-at-microscopy.com
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:52:03 -0600
Subject: Administrivia:Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Colleagues

I think this thread has run it's course, let's bring it to a close.

Nestor
Your Friendly Neighborhood SysOp
-Waving Hi to Everyone from Sunny Sydney-




From daemon Mon Feb 11 16:58:38 2002



From: Geoff McAuliffe :      mcauliff-at-umdnj.edu
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:52:14 -0500
Subject: Re: digging up OLD techiniques

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Hi Lee:

Leona Cohen-Gould wrote:

} Hi Listers,
} I have a client who is writing a grant and has "re-discovered" some
} old techniques that could be very useful in her research. The
} problem is, I'm having trouble finding a source or sources for the
} reagents. Any ideas on where we could get the following?
} Thoria Sol ( aqueous colloidal thorium, once sold by Polysciences. It
} does not appear in their on-line catalog, nor in any of the other
} catalogs I've checked) to be used for pinocytotic uptake to label
} lysosomes. We could use ferritin, but that's so messy (in my hands,
} anyway).

How about peroxidase followed by a DAB reaction? Shows pinocytosis well. The
method should be in Hyatt's book? Most histology texts (Weiss for one) will
have an EM of capillary endothelium with peroxidase showing the vesicles. It
may be a Karnovsky technique.

} the full protocol for Gomori's method of acid phosphatase labelling.
} I have the citation on order from Inter-Library loan (Arch.
} Pathol.1941!!!) but don't know when it will come it.

Gomori had a book out about 1950 or so, I suspect your library will have it.
Also, any edition of Lillie's "Histopathological Technique and Practical
Histochemistry" should do. Also John Kiernan's book should have it. Maybe
even Humason's book will have it.

} Are the reagents still available?

Fisher, Sigma, Aldrich.

} Has anyone out there done either
} of these techniques?

Not since grad school.


} Any suggestions for alternates (preferably not
} immuno)?
} Thanks a million,
} Lee
}
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From daemon Mon Feb 11 17:25:39 2002



From: Edward_Principe-at-amat.com
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:16:06 -0800
Subject: Re: Answers to Questions on the Electron Microscope

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Now you got me going Jim,

I was just sitting back (but intrigued) but now I must share that I had a
very similar thought as your own.

Yeah, I imagined Jenny's actual assignment was to conduct a psychology
experiment, the question refined beautifully to elicit a response. Maybe
we should name this technique to gauge personality and opinion after
her....The Jenneric Response Factor. It might even be good for extra
credit on her report. anyway, it gave me quite a chuckle. Even if the
original intent was not to extract a slice of humanity, it will perhaps be
the most valuable life lesson. Fun stuff.

antiflame disclamer: I am not making light of anyone's serious and
passionate responses, just a perspective.

I also find it interesting which questions generate the most responses on
the listserver.

Regards,
Ed




"James M. Ehrman" {jehrman-at-mta.ca} on 02/11/2002 04:48:27 AM


To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
cc:


Gee, maybe this whole thread is just a Sociology experiment to gauge
the response of a small group of specialists to a contentious issue! For
my $0.02 ($0.033 Canadian), pick up a copy of "Silicon Snake Oil" by
Cliff Stoll. Relevant reading, I think.

Cheers,

Jim

--
James M. Ehrman
Digital Microscopy Facility
Mount Allison University
Sackville, NB E4L 1G7
CANADA

phone: 506-364-2519
fax: 506-364-2505
email: jehrman-at-mta.ca
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From daemon Mon Feb 11 19:03:27 2002



From: Edy Junop Widjaja :      ejw923-at-casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 18:55:19 -0600 (CST)
Subject: DM3 -> RAW

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Can anybody help with file conversion?
I need to convert Gatan Format (.dm3) file from Digital Micrograph to RAW
format.

Thanks,

Edy Widjaja
Materials Science and Engineering
Northwestern University
reply to : e-widjaja-at-northwestern.edu
office : 847-491-7809 lab : 847-491-3281
http://www.numis.nwu.edu/internet/Staff/edy



From daemon Mon Feb 11 22:23:58 2002



From: Stephen Edgar :      s.edgar-at-auckland.ac.nz
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:14:54 +1300 NZDT
Subject: Re: digging up OLD techiniques

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On 11 Feb 02, at 11:56, Leona Cohen-Gould wrote:

} Any ideas on where we could get the following?
} Thoria Sol ( aqueous colloidal thorium, once sold by Polysciences. It
} does not appear in their on-line catalog, nor in any of the other
} catalogs I've checked) to be used for pinocytotic uptake to label
} lysosomes.

Hello Leona,

If you have it available, take a look at pp 116-117 (Section 3.5.5c
"Staining acidic carbohydrates with colloidal thorium dioxide") of
PR Lewis & DP Knight (1992) "Cytochemical staining methods for
electron microscopy", Volume 14 of the "Practical Methods in
Electron Microscopy" series.

They state that colloidal thorium was also known as Thorotrast,
and was formerly used for medical X-ray diagnosis but is now
difficult to obtain (it proved carcinogenic in the patients). Although
Lewis & Knight refer to Thorotrast as 'colloidal thorium', other
sources indicate that it is colloidal thorium dioxide - go to:
http://brighamrad.harvard.edu/Cases/bwh/hcache/161/full.html

Lewis & Knight offer a recipe for home-made colloidal thorium
dioxide as an alternative (CARE: RADIOACTIVE), and I have used
this exact method myself to stain acidic carbohydrates. It worked a
treat. Perhaps it would work in your application too? To make the
thorium dioxide I used a very old bottle of thorium nitrate from BDH -
a quick search of the WWW suggests it is no longer in their
catalogue. Perhaps safety and disposal concerns make it difficult
to obtain today. The EM labs on your campus might have a bottle
tucked away, if you still want to try it.

Back to the ferritin perhaps? ;-)


Regards

Stephen Edgar

Pathology Department
Faculty of Medicine & Health Sciences
University of Auckland
Private Bag 92019
Auckland
New Zealand

email address: s.edgar-at-auckland.ac.nz
Phone : +64-9-3737599 extn 6473 (GMT + 12h)
Fax : +64-9-3737459


From daemon Mon Feb 11 23:16:39 2002



From: Rosemary White :      rosemary.white-at-csiro.au
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:13:45 +1100
Subject: Re: digging up OLD techiniques

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Dear Lee,

} Hi Listers,
} I have a client who is writing a grant and has "re-discovered" some
} old techniques that could be very useful in her research. The
} problem is, I'm having trouble finding a source or sources for the
} reagents. Any ideas on where we could get the following?
} Thoria Sol ( aqueous colloidal thorium, once sold by Polysciences. It
} does not appear in their on-line catalog, nor in any of the other
} catalogs I've checked) to be used for pinocytotic uptake to label
} lysosomes. We could use ferritin, but that's so messy (in my hands,
} anyway).

This is thorium dioxide, I think. Rather toxic, carcinogenic and
radioactive (alpha-emitter) too. It's in the Alfa Aeser catalogue
(www.alfa.com) under thorium (IV) oxide.


} the full protocol for Gomori's method of acid phosphatase labelling.
} I have the citation on order from Inter-Library loan (Arch.
} Pathol.1941!!!) but don't know when it will come it.
} Are the reagents still available? Has anyone out there done either
} of these techniques? Any suggestions for alternates (preferably not
} immuno)?


In "Plant Cell Biology: a Practical Approach" (1994), p. 62, is a full
protocol for doing this - I dug this up once before for a student. The
authors say there are several methods based on the Gomori reactions, and
this is one of them, and that a variety of substrates can be used, giving
different coloured products for LM. It looks very straightforward, I guess
you'd just have to be careful of artefacts. Ingredients: acetate buffer
(acetic acid + Na acetate), naphthol AS-MX phosphate, Fast Red TR, Tris-HCl
buffer, dimethylformamide.

If you're after a TEM protocol, "Electron Microscopy of Plant Cells" (1991)
gives details on pp. 125-131, recipe p. 161, in which case Pb is
precipitated in the reaction - also derived from Gomori. Many cautions
about artefacts. Ingredients: beta-glycerophosphate, acetate or
Tris-maleate buffer, lead nitrate solution. Or, can use cerium chloride in
acetate buffer preincubation, this buffer plus beta-glycerophosphate stain.

Don't think there would be a huge difference between plant and animal (incl
human!) cells....

cheers,

Rosemary White
Microscopy Centre
CSIRO Plant Industry
GPO Box 1600
Canberra, ACT 2601
Australia

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fax 61-2-6246 5000
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From daemon Mon Feb 11 23:30:46 2002



From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:27:00 -0800
Subject: Re: Nikon Coolpix vs Olympus C-3030 et al.

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It is CMOS, not CCD, as I read it. This leads to
an entirely different venue.

gary g.


At 12:50 PM 2/11/2002, you wrote:
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From daemon Tue Feb 12 03:28:31 2002



From: Faerber Jacques :      Jacques.Faerber-at-ipcms.u-strasbg.fr
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:19:23 +0100
Subject: RE : Nikon Coolpix vs Olympus C-3030 et al

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Hi all

I just want to point out two problems with either of these camera, and
with other too, from the cheapest to the most expensive :

1- Someone point out the probleme with the JPG compression. Right, but in
practice you are obliged to use the best resolution to be alowed to save
in TIFF format. If you need some memory to take a lot of pictures (dynamic
process), or if you don't need 1500x2000 pixel, you cannot have the tiff
format. And why don't these "new", "modern" camera use formats like JEPEG
2000 or SPIFF which let the choice of compressing (lossy or lossless) or
not ?

2- An other point, more discreet, is that the picture is adjusted to the
"best" dynamic scale before saving. The brighter pixel will be put to
"white", i.e. level 255 in 8 bit BW , and the darker to "black", i.e.
level 0, or something so. It's probably more sophisticated than that.
The important result is that you CANNOT make quantitative mesures on
brightness between different pictures. This is never said in commercial or
technical shits. You can choice between auto adjustement, normal (what
does it mean ?), more or less contrast or brightness, but you cannot put
that fonction off (see p 104 of the Coolpix 995 manual). Cheapest camera
have no settings, and do simply that adustement. More expensive one let
you choice "something" but don't say what they really do. We have our
Coolpix only since two month, so I had no time to try if there is a way to
bypass this problem. Has someone a experience about that ? We had soon the
same problem with the Fuji FinePix S1Pro. But we made only short tests
with it.


J. Faerber
IPCMS-GSI
(Institut de Physique et Chimie des Matériaux de Strasbourg
Groupe Surface et Interfaces)
23, rue de Loess
67037 Strasbourg CEDEX
France

Tel 00 33(0)3 88 10 71 01
Fax 00 33(0)0 88 10 72 48
E-mail Jacques.Faerber-at-ipcms.u-strasbg.fr



From daemon Tue Feb 12 03:42:09 2002



From: Faerber Jacques :      Jacques.Faerber-at-ipcms.u-strasbg.fr
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:35:03 +0100
Subject: RE : self coating of EM viewing screen

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For those who may bee interested, I have such a receipt (which I sent to
Peter). Please ask off-line, an I can send it.

If some one else have one, I am too interrested. Our receipt works, but
has its deffects !


By the way, Edwards remarked about an other topic (EM quest. ...)

"I also find it interesting which questions generate the most responses on
the listserver."
..and which questions generate less (or no) responses.

I find it's difficult to know when it's useful to give an answer, when it
is better to give it off-line or on the list. Those who use the list since
years have perheps an advice about that.


J. Faerber
IPCMS-GSI
(Institut de Physique et Chimie des Matériaux de Strasbourg
Groupe Surface et Interfaces)
23, rue de Loess
67037 Strasbourg CEDEX
France

Tel 00 33(0)3 88 10 71 01
Fax 00 33(0)0 88 10 72 48
E-mail Jacques.Faerber-at-ipcms.u-strasbg.fr



From daemon Tue Feb 12 06:28:37 2002



From: Rachel Gouttebaron :      Rachel.Gouttebaron-at-umh.ac.be
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:18:14 +0100
Subject: job position to be in charge of microscopy department (SEM - TEM)

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The "MATERIA NOVA a.s.b.l." research Center, located in Mons - Belgium

recruits

1 Ph.D. or civil engineer - chemist or physicist

to set up and to be in charge of its Department of electronic microscopy
(SEM and TEM)

Initiated in 1995 in close collaboration with the University of Mons-Hainaut
and the Polytechnic Faculty of Mons, Materia Nova got its own identity in
2000 and has opened up largely its activities to the industrial world.
Materia Nova activities rely upon two main research fields: interfacial
aspects of materials and polymeric materials.

The main objectives of the Department of electronic microscopy can be
summarized as follows:
+ To reinforce the research Center capacity in materials analysis and
characterization : ion and electron spectroscopy - local probe microscopy -
ellipsometry - calorimetric methods - optical spectroscopy -
chromatographic methods - ...
+ To contribute to the formation/education in the field of surface and
interface chemistry.

Letter of application (preferably written in French) and C.V. have to be
addressed to:

Monsieur Joseph LEMINEUR - General Manager - MATERIA NOVA a.s.b.l., Parc
Initialis, Avenue Nicolas Copernic, B-7000 Mons, Belgium
e-mail: joseph.lemineur-at-umh.ac.be
Phone : ++32 (0)65 373800

To find more information concerning MATERIA NOVA" research center, please
visit : http://www.materia-nova.com


-----------------------------------------------------------
Rachel Gouttebaron
laboratoire d'Analyses de Surfaces par Spectroscopie Ionique et Electronique
(LASSIE)
Materia Nova
Parc Initialis
Avenue Nicolas Copernic
7000, mons, belgium
tel : +32 65 37 38 52
fax : +32 65 37 38 41
e-mail : rachel.gouttebaron-at-umh.ac.be



From daemon Tue Feb 12 07:04:37 2002



From: Chris Jeffree :      cjeffree-at-srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:58:10 +0000
Subject: Colloidal gold probes in FESEM

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Dear All

I have been examining immunogold labelled cell and virus surfaces
in a Hitachi S4700 FEG SEM, and would be grateful for your help/
wisdom in interpreting what I see. In SE mode, labelled sites are
decorated with rounded blobs about 45-50nm diameter. Clear 10nm
gold particles are visible by YAG BSE imaging in the centre of
each blob. Blobs/gold are absent in unlabelled controls.
Presumably the blob represents the IgG shell surrounding the gold
particle? What is the "official" diameter for this shell? (I am trying
to estimate how much I have grown it by carbon coating).
At least as many labelled locations as are labelled with single gold
probes are labelled with binary or ternary probes. Mostly these are
pairs or triplets of overlapping blobs, with gold particle centres
separated by, typically, 22-24 nm. Occasionally two gold particles
appear to be very close together (i.e. touching or separated by 1-3
nm) at the centre of what appears to be a single blob. I assume
these latter represent pairs of gold particles that were cross-linked
by protein at the time of manufacture of the conjugate. Would that
be a fair conclusion? Intermediate spacings seem infrequent (I
haven't done any stats on this). Does anyone have a handle on
how close individual gold probes can approach each other before
being sterically excluded? This would have a bearing on the
quantitative relationship between label numbers and closely-spaced
epitopes. Is the answer by any chance somewhere in the 22-24 nm
region?

Many thanks in advance
Chris


==========================================
Dr. Chris Jeffree
University of Edinburgh
BIOSEM - Biological Sciences Electron Microscope Facility
Institute of Cell and Molecular Biology
Waddington Building
King's Buildings, Mayfield Road
EDINBURGH, EH9 3JN, Scotland, UK
Tel. #44 (0) 131 650 5554
FAX. #44 (0) 131 650 6563
Mobile 07710 585 401
email c.jeffree-at-ed.ac.uk
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From daemon Tue Feb 12 08:13:06 2002



From: Lucille A. Giannuzzi :      lag-at-mail.ucf.edu
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:04:52 -0500
Subject: Final Call for Short Course

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UCF TEM Specimen Preparation Short Course - 2002

A Short Course With Emphasis on Recent Innovations in Tools and Methods

(Including tripod polishing, ion milling, and FIB techniques.)

Instructors:
Ron Anderson, IBM (retired);
Fred Stevie, NC State;
Lucille Giannuzzi, UCF


At the University of Central Florida (prior to the FL AVS/FL Society for
Microscopy Meeting)
Orlando, FL

Friday, Saturday and Sunday, March 8,9,10, 2002


for registration information please contact: Lucille Giannuzzi,
lag-at-mail.ucf.edu

*******************************************************************
Lucille A. Giannuzzi, Ph.D.

Associate Professor, Mechanical, Materials, and Aerospace Engineering
Director, UCF/Cirent Materials Characterization Facility
University of Central Florida
12443 Research Parkway, Suite 305
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Experience comes from making bad judgement."

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From daemon Tue Feb 12 08:42:26 2002



From: Philip Oshel :      peoshel-at-facstaff.wisc.edu
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:42:40 -0600
Subject: Re: DM3 -> RAW

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If you have a Mac, try the latest version (or at least higher than
4.0.9) of Graphic Converter.
http://www.lemkesoft.com
shareware, an excellent graphics file-converter program with basic
image-manipulation tools.
For PCs, there's Irfanview
http://www.irfanview.com/english.htm
freeware, but there's a more complete shareware version, I *think*. I
don't know if Irfanview will convert Gatan to other formats, though.

Phil

} Can anybody help with file conversion?
} I need to convert Gatan Format (.dm3) file from Digital Micrograph to RAW
} format.
}
} Thanks,
}
} Edy Widjaja
} Materials Science and Engineering
} Northwestern University
} reply to : e-widjaja-at-northwestern.edu
} office : 847-491-7809 lab : 847-491-3281
} http://www.numis.nwu.edu/internet/Staff/edy
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Department of Animal Sciences
University of Wisconsin
1675 Observatory Drive
Madison, WI 53706 - 1284
voice: (608) 263-4162
fax: (608) 262-5157 (dept. fax)


From daemon Tue Feb 12 08:47:17 2002



From: Stacy Darnell :      stacy-at-boeckeler.com
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 07:41:49 -0700
Subject: 7th Annual Materials Microtomy Course

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This year we will be hosting the 7th annual RMC Materials Microtomy Short
Course in Tucson, Arizona from April 16-19, 2002.

For those of you residing in colder climes, Tucson has just the weather to
chase away the onset of those winter-time blues.

Join us, and our internationally renowned course faculty, in sunny Tucson to
participate in this unique event. This short course is designed
specifically for researchers in the field of materials science who wish to
gain exposure to advances in specimen preparation for electron microscopy.

Please email me at stacy-at-boeckeler.com to receive full details and a course
brochure.

Warm Regards,

Stacy Darnell
Administrative Assistant
RMC Products Division
Boeckeler Instruments, Inc.
stacy-at-boeckeler.com
4650 S. Butterfield Drive
Tucson, AZ 85714, USA
Tele: 520-745-0001
Fax: 520-745-0004



From daemon Tue Feb 12 08:53:21 2002



From: Leona Cohen-Gould :      lcgould-at-med.cornell.edu
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:45:32 -0500
Subject: Re: digging up OLD techniques

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Hi Listers
Thanks to all of you who responded to my inquiry. As always, you
all have risen to the challenge, but after further discussion, my
client is going to try an approach using fluorescent labelling and
FRAP on the confocal. Neither of us wanted to deal with thorium if
we didn't have to.
If she does need the acid phosphatase for the EM. we'll do an AB-DAB method.

Lee
--
Lee Cohen-Gould
Electron & Optical Microscopy Facilities
Weill Medical College of Cornell U.
(212)746-6146
Rms A-105, LC-207


From daemon Tue Feb 12 09:32:31 2002



From: Dave Hall :      daveh-at-restechimage.com
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:22:53 -0500
Subject: Re: Nikon Coolpix vs Olympus C-3030 et al.

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For a fairly easy read regarding CMOS vs. CCD technology, please check
the following PDF.

The article is a reprint from Photonics Spectra, January 2001. I'm sure
a few things may have changed, but the general ideas have held for a
while, and continue to do so.

http://www.dalsa.com/markets/Photonics_Spectra_CCDvsCMOS_Litwiller.pdf

*Kind Regards,
*Dave Hall
*Resolution Technology, Inc - (614) 921-0045


-----Original Message-----
} From: Gary Gaugler [mailto:gary-at-gaugler.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 12:27 AM
To: John Twilley
Cc: MSA listserver



It is CMOS, not CCD, as I read it. This leads to
an entirely different venue.

gary g.


At 12:50 PM 2/11/2002, you wrote:
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From daemon Tue Feb 12 10:30:05 2002



From: William P. Sharp :      wsharp-at-asu.edu
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:22:35 -0700
Subject: Balzers HPF Planchet Source

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Hello listers -

Can anyone put me in touch with a source for "clam shell" interlocking gold
alloy planchets used in the Balzers High Pressure Freezing apparatus - HPM
010? My search for the Swiss Precision company (our previous source)
yielded an address in Palo Alto CA (908 Industrial Drive) and a phone
number that proved to be that of a private home. The number associated with
the company that was given on a web site that accurately described the
planchets as Craig Type and as a product of that company was 650-493-0440.

Thanks for any help you can give me in tracking these folks down.

Regards,
Bill Sharp
William P. Sharp
Arizona State University
Dept. Plant Biology, box 871601
Tempe, AZ 85287-1601
Phone - (480)-965-3210
Fax - (480)-965-6899



From daemon Tue Feb 12 10:53:01 2002



From: Chris Jeffree :      cjeffree-at-srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:46:03 +0000
Subject: Paper vs the net

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By the way, my posting yesterday about paper vs the net was
more than just a rant. The following urls may give you some idea
where I am coming from:

http://www.lib.ed.ac.uk/lib/news/curldoc.html
http://www.arl.org/sparc

Best wishes
Chris Jeffree

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University of Edinburgh
BIOSEM - Biological Sciences Electron Microscope Facility
Institute of Cell and Molecular Biology
Waddington Building
King's Buildings, Mayfield Road
EDINBURGH, EH9 3JN, Scotland, UK
Tel. #44 (0) 131 650 5554
FAX. #44 (0) 131 650 6563
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From daemon Tue Feb 12 11:28:52 2002



From: Rick Mott :      rickmott-at-alumni.princeton.edu
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:35:22 -0500
Subject: Re: The true intent of the question now revealed: Answers to Questions

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"Edward_Principe-at-amat.com"-at-sparc5.microscopy.com wrote:

}
} "James M. Ehrman" {jehrman-at-mta.ca} on 02/11/2002 04:48:27 AM
} ... pick up a copy of "Silicon Snake Oil" by
} Cliff Stoll. Relevant reading, I think.
}

I've met Cliff Stoll. He's a very interesting character,
and an archetypal hacker (in the classic favorable sense
of technically proficient and inventive, before the word
was co-opted by the ignorant press to mean people who break
into computer systems). That someone with his background
should be so negative about on-line communities is unusual.
His "Cuckoo's Egg" book on computer security makes a dry
subject very entertaining.

For another perspective, look at "The Cathedral and the
Bazaar" by Eric Raymond. While the nominal subject is
the open-source and Linux paths for software development,
he is a keen observer of the behavior of on-line groups.
His key insight is that, rather like academia but much
less structured, reputation is the coin of the realm
online as well, which is why so many people will spend
so much time in what seems like unproductive activity
in traditional career terms. Posts pile up as "publications"
of a sort. Peer review is immediate and severe, as we've
seen. :)

Rick Mott


From daemon Tue Feb 12 11:33:30 2002



From: Tony Garratt-Reed :      tonygr-at-mit.edu
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:28:55 -0500
Subject: New England Society for Microscopy

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The New England Society for Microscopy announces that the next meeting of
the Society will be held at 6.00 p.m. on Tuesday March 12th. 2002 at the
Lexington Laboratory of Raytheon Corporation. The theme of the program
will be Scanned Probe Microscopies.

Full details of the meeting, including the program, and information about
the New England Society may be found on the Society's Web pages, located at
http://www.msa.microscopy.com/MSALAS/NESM/NESMHome.htm

All interested persons are welcome, and invited to attend.

Tony Garratt-Reed
President Elect


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* Anthony J. Garratt-Reed M.A., D.Phil.
* MIT, Room 13-1027
* 77 Massachusetts Avenue
* Cambridge, MA 02139-4307
* USA
* Phone: (617) 253-4622
* Fax: (617) 258-6478
*




From daemon Tue Feb 12 12:32:29 2002



From: Gordon Nord :      gnord-at-mindspring.com
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:24:38 -0500
Subject: NYC Source for TEM Film

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Dear List,

We need a New York City source for Kodak Electron Microscope film 4489
(3.25" x 4").

Arkin Medeo was our previous source but their phones are disconnected
and we can't find them.

Thanks,
Gordon Nord

--
Gordon L. Nord Jr.
Environmental Sciences Laboratory
Brooklyn College




From daemon Tue Feb 12 12:48:33 2002



From: David Henriks :      henriks-at-southbaytech.com
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:37:57 -0800
Subject: Suggestions on sapphire samples

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Dear Ayten:

We have a few application notes on preparing sapphire for TEM that you
can download from our website. Go to www.southbaytech.com and navigate
to "Applications Support". Then select "Application Notes". You are
looking for Application Notes 34 and 55. Number 34 deals with Tripod
Polishing and number 55 deals with MicroCleaving.

DISCLAIMER: South Bay Technology produces equipment and supplies as
described above and, therefore, has a vested interest in promoting their
use.

Best regards-

David

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Dear all,

I'm trying to prepare tem samples from sapphire.
There is a thin metal film on the sapphire substrate, as well.
I don't have too much experience in this field so, I would greatly
appreciate any suggestions about preparing tem samples from sapphire.

Previously, I have prepared couple of Si samples but, sapphire seems
to be
much harder and difficult to deal with.

Thank you very much,
Ayten C. Aktas.

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South Bay Technology, Inc. FAX: +1-949-492-1499
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From daemon Tue Feb 12 15:32:08 2002



From: Ayten Celik :      celik-at-students.uiuc.edu
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 15:19:18 -0600 (CST)
Subject: More detail..Re: Suggestions on sapphire samples

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Hi,

I will be preparing both plane view and cross sectional samples. My main
concern is to keep the metal film in its initial state throughout the
sample preparation steps (as much as possible). The metal films are
generally 200-300 Angstrom thick.

Can dimpler alter/damage the thin film?

Second problem is the hardness of the sapphire. Do I have to use diamond
products to reduce the thickness of the sapphire substrates? The
substrates are 0.5 mm to start with.

For grinding and polishing few different type of equipment are available
(from hand polising to automatic polishing machines). Getting access to
equipment is not the main concern.


Thanks
Ayten C. Aktas


On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Ayten Celik wrote:

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} Dear all,
}
} I'm trying to prepare tem samples from sapphire.
} There is a thin metal film on the sapphire substrate, as well.
} I don't have too much experience in this field so, I would greatly
} appreciate any suggestions about preparing tem samples from sapphire.
}
} Previously, I have prepared couple of Si samples but, sapphire seems to be
} much harder and difficult to deal with.
}
}
} Thank you very much,
} Ayten C. Aktas.
}
}




From daemon Tue Feb 12 16:33:42 2002



From: rnessler :      rnessler-at-blue.weeg.uiowa.edu
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:28:49 -0600
Subject: Polypyrrole films

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Hi all,
Does anyone have experience using polypyrrole films in lieu of
formvar/collodion in TEM applications? They sound like the best thing since
sliced bread, as they are very thin and conductive. Too good to be true?
Comments?
Randy


From daemon Tue Feb 12 17:39:00 2002



From: gerard.d.gagne-at-abbott.com
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:30:27 -0600
Subject: Summer Microscopy Internships at Abbott Laboratories

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----- Forwarded by Gerard D Gagne/LAKE/PPRD/ABBOTT on 02/12/02 05:28 PM -----

Jane A
Fagerland To: Gerard D Gagne/LAKE/PPRD/ABBOTT-at-ABBOTT
cc:
02/12/02 Subject: internships
05:25 PM








The Department of Microscopy and Microanalysis at Abbott Laboratories will
sponsor two summer internships for students interested in experiencing
microscopy in the healthcare industry. One internship will be in Biological
Microscopy, and one will be in Materials/Surface Science.

The department houses state-of-the-art equipment including field emission and
environmental scanning electron microscopes with energy dispersive x-ray
spectroscopy, transmission electron microscopes, several types of fluorescence
technologies (including conventional fluorescence, confocal, and flow
cytometry), light microscopy (including polarized light and interference
contrast), laser capture microdissection, and all ancillary preparatory
equipment such as microtomes, cryostat, and evaporative coaters. Surface
analytical capabilities include x-ray photoelectron spectrometry and atomic
force microscopy. We have several image analysis systems, including MetaMorph
and AnalySIS. The department consists of nine microscopists with expertise in
cell biology, materials analysis, surface chemistry, ultrastructural
pathology, in vitro toxicology, and all the associated technical skills.

For details about summer internships at Abbott and for application forms and
instructions, please visit www.abbott.com and follow the instructions there.
Please note: the deadline for applications is March 1!

IN ADDITION, please send a copy of your resume with cover letter either by
snail mail or e-mail to:

Jane A. Fagerland, Ph.D.
Abbott Laboratories
D-R45M/AP31
200 Abbott Park Rd.
Abbott Park IL 60048-6202

jane.a.fagerland-at-abbott.com




From daemon Tue Feb 12 17:59:22 2002



From: JLCastner-at-aol.com
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 18:52:56 EST
Subject: Coolpix 995 and Compound Microscopes

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Hello,

Would anyone using a Nikon Coolpix 995 digital camera on a Nikon Eclipse
series compound microscope please contact me regarding your experiences with
this setup. I'd like to know the pro's and con's of working with this system
to produce publishable images.

Thanks very much.

Jim Castner
Gainesville, FL
jlcastner-at-aol.com


From daemon Tue Feb 12 18:32:16 2002



From: Tom Malis :      malis-at-nrcan.gc.ca
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:25:53 -0500
Subject: Re: More detail..Re: Suggestions on sapphire samples

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Mary, find someone with a focused ion beam (FIB) system that is willing to
try non-semiconductor applications, otherwise it will take you just this
side of forever to produce both plan view and cross section specimens.
Failing that, you have a real challenge on your hands, I'm afraid. If you
can make do with cross sections only, do a Listserver search on tripod
polishing.

Tom Malis
Materials Technology Lab
Ottawa, Canada

} From: Ayten Celik {celik-at-students.uiuc.edu}
} Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 15:19:18 -0600 (CST)
} To: {Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com}
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}
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} Hi,
}
} I will be preparing both plane view and cross sectional samples. My main
} concern is to keep the metal film in its initial state throughout the
} sample preparation steps (as much as possible). The metal films are
} generally 200-300 Angstrom thick.
}
} Can dimpler alter/damage the thin film?
}
} Second problem is the hardness of the sapphire. Do I have to use diamond
} products to reduce the thickness of the sapphire substrates? The
} substrates are 0.5 mm to start with.
}
} For grinding and polishing few different type of equipment are available
} (from hand polising to automatic polishing machines). Getting access to
} equipment is not the main concern.
}
}
} Thanks
} Ayten C. Aktas
}
}
} On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Ayten Celik wrote:
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} }
} } Dear all,
} }
} } I'm trying to prepare tem samples from sapphire.
} } There is a thin metal film on the sapphire substrate, as well.
} } I don't have too much experience in this field so, I would greatly
} } appreciate any suggestions about preparing tem samples from sapphire.
} }
} } Previously, I have prepared couple of Si samples but, sapphire seems to be
} } much harder and difficult to deal with.
} }
} }
} } Thank you very much,
} } Ayten C. Aktas.
} }
} }
}
}



From daemon Tue Feb 12 20:08:32 2002



From: Tina Carvalho :      tina-at-pbrc.hawaii.edu
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:00:02 -1000 (HST)
Subject: PBL in education

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Hi, All-

I had a couple of people ask me about the PBL curriculum at the UH medical
school as part of the thread about answering the questions from the
students at Georgia Tech. For those who are interested, a statement about
the philosophy can be found by visiting http://hawaiimed.hawaii.edu
and clicking on the Medical Education link.

I'm not associated with the medical school, but the med students I've know
have been very happy with it. However, I haven't had to visit any of them
in an emergency, yet...!

Aloha,
Tina

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* Biological Electron Microscope Facility * (808) 956-6251 *
* University of Hawaii at Manoa * http://www.pbrc.hawaii.edu/bemf*
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From daemon Wed Feb 13 04:05:39 2002



From: Peter Van Osta :      pvosta-at-unionbio-eu.com
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 10:55:22 +0100
Subject: Re: Nikon Coolpix vs Olympus C-3030 et al.

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Hi,

I can only give a personal opinion based on my own experience with
fluorescence microscopy. For low-light applications I personally prefer
intensified cameras like the Isis-3 from Photonic Science (
http://www.photonic-science.ltd.uk/zzt_isis3.html ). These cameras allow
you to work in extreme dim working conditions, which will keep your
biological assay simple. You will not need to use several intensifying
steps by using multiple layers of antibodies in an assay to get enough
signal to get over the detection limit of your camera. These cameras
will also allow you to keep up the speed of your image acquisition as
you will not need to integrate the signal and thereby slow down the
image capture process.

The main disadvantage of this approach is the relatively low S/N ratio
in your images, but this can be compensated for with the proper digital
filters and analysis algortihms.

When using cameras without image intensifier, you will probably need to
integrate the signal over a certain period of time, which will slow down
the acquisition proces and won't allow you to analyse "fast" dynamic
processes. The benefit of this approach is a better S/N ratio than with
intensified cameras and subsequent a more simplified analysis.

One of the issues under consideration is however the size of the
CCD-elements on the camera, which are a measure of how much photons can
be accumulated. There is an inverse relation between the size of the
CCD-elements and the Nyquist sampling rate. For a given resolution (~
N.A.) of a microscope, you will need to magnify you image more if the
CCD-elements are bigger than with smaller CCD-elements on the chip. You
need to match the resolution of your microscope to that of your camera
to obtain optimal results.

But there is also an inverse relation between the magnification and the
amount of light (~I) hitting your camera ( I am not quite sure anymore,
but it is something like this: I = N.A.^4 / M^2). So, the more you
magnify your image, the more light you lose. Low-light fluorescence
microscopy with immersion-oil lenses (high N.A.) and intensified cameras
gives exciting results, but is sometimes a bit messy ;-)

Best regards,

Peter Van Osta


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Union Biometrica N.V./S.A.
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} OK so it is a given that consumer grade cameras have relativly poor low
} light performance. That said, are there cameras that have better than
} average lowlight performance? Are any of the consumer cameras capable
} of binning?
}
} Mike


From daemon Wed Feb 13 06:01:46 2002



From: paques-at-nizo.nl
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 12:52:45 +0100
Subject: Food Structure & Functionality Forum short course 2002: second

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From daemon Wed Feb 13 07:59:56 2002



From: Jacqueline D. Garfield :      JGarfield-at-lifecell.com
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 08:45:07 -0500
Subject: re: NYC Source for TEM film

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Gordon,

Any local Kodak distributor should be able to order the 4489 film. It takes
2-4 weeks for delivery. They probably will not keep it in stock, however
most places should be a able to order it. You could try Kodak's main office
Rochester, NY for names and phone numbers of local distributors.
Good Luck.

Jackie Garfield
Lifecell Corporation


From daemon Wed Feb 13 08:00:01 2002



From: Peter Steele :      STEELEP-at-allkids.org
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 08:50:13 -0500
Subject: Cameras, Brightfield, DN100, DXC390, Micropublisher

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I am assessing vastly different systems that use the Nikon DN100, the Sony DXC390, or the Q-Imaging Micropublisher cameras for capturing bright field microscopy (mainly frozen biopsies). I am seeking any comments or experiences (benefits/limitations) about any of these three cameras (or others). For example, ease of use, software friendliness, quality, robustness, . . .

Please feel free to send responses offline, if they are not appropriate for the list.

Thank you,

Peter O. Steele, Ph.D.
Pathology and Laboratory Medicine
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St. Petersburg, Fl


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From: Pea9000-at-aol.com
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 09:34:08 EST
Subject: Re: Polypyrrole films

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Randy,
Of course it's too good to be true...for now. We are currently working on new ways to synthesize polypyrrole (and polyaniline, also a conducting polymer). Unfortunately, these and related conducting polymers are sensitive to temperature, and only conduct if doped properly (in certain pH ranges with certain dopants). Plus, the films themselves are quite brittle and somewhat difficult to manipulate.
Like all new materials, though, it is a promising technology, and applications such as the one you mentioned is a definite possibility. File the provisonal patent now!

Paul E. Anderson
Post-doctoral Research Associate
Northeastern University
Department of Chemistry
102 Hurtig Hall
Boston, MA 02115


From daemon Wed Feb 13 08:57:57 2002



From: Leona Cohen-Gould :      lcgould-at-med.cornell.edu
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 09:49:59 -0500
Subject: Re: NYC Source for TEM Film

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Gordon,
I get my 4489 from VWR and Electron Microscopy Sciences. The Med.
School contracts with VWR, so we get a bit of a discount from them,
but sometimes they don't have it in stock.
Lee
--
Lee Cohen-Gould
Electron & Optical Microscopy Facilities
Weill Medical College of Cornell U.
(212)746-6146
Rms A-105, LC-207


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From: paques-at-nizo.nl
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 18:03:43 +0100
Subject: short course announcement

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From: Tindall, Randy D. :      TindallR-at-missouri.edu
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:17:48 -0600
Subject: NYC Source for TEM Film

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Gordon,

If I'm not mistaken, National Graphic Supply in Albany carries this film in stock. In the past, George Laing has been our contact there for photographic supplies. The number I have for them is 1-800-223-7130, and George's extension is 3109. I haven't been in touch with them for awhile, but George has always been very helpful in the past.

Randy

Randy Tindall
EM Specialist
Electron Microscopy Core Facility
W122 Veterinary Medicine
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211
Tel: (573) 882-8304
Fax: (573) 884-5414
Email: tindallr-at-missouri.edu
Web: http://www.biotech.missouri.edu/emc/




-----Original Message-----
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Dear List,

We need a New York City source for Kodak Electron Microscope film 4489
(3.25" x 4").

Arkin Medeo was our previous source but their phones are disconnected
and we can't find them.

Thanks,
Gordon Nord

--
Gordon L. Nord Jr.
Environmental Sciences Laboratory
Brooklyn College




From daemon Wed Feb 13 11:36:07 2002



From: Mardinly, John :      john.mardinly-at-intel.com
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 09:30:20 -0800
Subject: More detail..Re: Suggestions on sapphire samples

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Ayten;
I prepared some silicon on sapphire samples at Lockheed a number of
years ago using dimple and ion mill techniques, but it is extremely
challenging. The sapphire is nearly as hard as diamond, so the polishing
rates are extremely slow. If you get aggressive, then it cracks. If you want
to look at a metal film on top of the sapphire, you should cap it with SiO2,
or it will be corroded/eroded and destroyed by the time the sapphire gets
thin. I never tried plan views, but they should be similarly challenging.
You will also find ion milling rates to be extremely slow, and must be done
with the beam crossing the sapphire first, using rocking of the sample
(never rotating) or the metal film will be lost. Tom Malik's suggestion of
finding a FIB should be taken very seriously.

John Mardinly
Intel



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Hi,

I will be preparing both plane view and cross sectional samples. My main
concern is to keep the metal film in its initial state throughout the
sample preparation steps (as much as possible). The metal films are
generally 200-300 Angstrom thick.

Can dimpler alter/damage the thin film?

Second problem is the hardness of the sapphire. Do I have to use diamond
products to reduce the thickness of the sapphire substrates? The
substrates are 0.5 mm to start with.

For grinding and polishing few different type of equipment are available
(from hand polising to automatic polishing machines). Getting access to
equipment is not the main concern.


Thanks
Ayten C. Aktas


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} I'm trying to prepare tem samples from sapphire.
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From daemon Wed Feb 13 12:32:40 2002



From: tartenon-at-netscape.net
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 13:25:05 -0500
Subject: RE: RE : Nikon Coolpix vs Olympus C-3030 et al

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One possible way to bypass automatic adjustment with the coolpix 995 is to set it to manual operation,and turn off the awb (auto white balance).

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Alfredo

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From: Frank Macaluso :      macaluso-at-aecom.yu.edu
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 13:51:55 -0500
Subject: Re: NYC Source for TEM Film

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Gordon,
Arkin Medo changed their number.
The new number for Arkin Medo is (718) 445-4000.
Frank

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From daemon Wed Feb 13 13:23:21 2002



From: Baggethun, Paul :      Paul.Baggethun-at-alcoa.com
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:15:13 -0500
Subject: SEM/TEM: Measurement of oxide film thickness by WDS

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Microscopy Experts,

I am searching for references on measurement of oxide film thickness on
metals by WDS in the SEM or TEM (as an alternative to XPS/Auger). Does
anyone have advice on the "best" journal papers on this topic?

Sincerely,
Paul Baggethun
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From daemon Wed Feb 13 14:19:39 2002



From: Paula Sicurello :      patpxs-at-gwumc.edu
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:37:03 -0500
Subject: In the dark about my Densi-timer

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Dear Ayten,

One of my former students developed a very nice technique to make both plan
view and cross sectional samples based on the Tripod Polisher from South Bay
Technology. It is a high angle polishing technique that works particularly
well for samples where the film and the substrate have very different
hardness and milling rate. With this technique you can also monitor the
actual thickness of the thinned part of the sample. We have successfully
used the technique to make samples of sapphire as well as Si (particularly
good for this technique), LaAlO3, SiC, GaAs, SrTiO3, etc. The reference for
the description of the technique is

"The Concept of High Angle Wedge Polishing and Thickness Monitoring in TEM
Sample Preparation," Hao Li, and L. Salamanca-Riba, Ultramicroscopy 88,
171-8 (2001).

If you want to see TEM images of samples made with this technique let me
know and I will e-mail you some off line.

Good luck,

Lourdes Salamanca-Riba




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Hi Listers,

This appeal goes out to all the old timers out there who remember back when all pictures were created in the darkroom (I still think film and paper give a better picture and you techies out there can't change my mind ;-) ).

I have an old Densi-timer model PTM-4A made by Lektra Laboratories, Inc. It is a swell little thing that helps determine the exposure time for a print by using some sort of magic using a red light pointed at a medium gray tone of the negative and several knobs geared towards what grade of paper is being used.

Now I'm an old hand a printing and am used to just kind of knowing what time and what kind of paper to use to make a pretty picture, but my young helpers aren't. Does anyone know of a similar type device that is new & modern? This puppy has tubes and is on it's last legs.

I have money buring a hole in my pocket and Uncle Sam will take it back if I don't spend it soon. Any suggestions as to where to look and what's out there are greatly appreciated. Folks I talked to out here just gave me a blank stare.


Help keep me in the dark(room),

Paula :-)

Paula Sicurello
George Washington Univ. Medical Center
Dept. of Pathology, Ross Hall rm 505
Electron Microscope Lab
2300 Eye St.
Washington, DC 20037
202-994-2930 phone
202-994-2518 fax



From daemon Wed Feb 13 15:33:37 2002



From: Joel Mancuso :      mancuso-at-biology.utah.edu
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:23:46 -0700
Subject: Repost jobs please

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From daemon Wed Feb 13 16:25:18 2002



From: Mardinly, John :      john.mardinly-at-intel.com
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:18:50 -0800
Subject: Summer Internship at Intel

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We are pleased to announce the availability of a Summer Internship at Intel
Santa Clara for the Summer of 2002. The successful candidate will develop
techniques for TEM Electron Tomographic 3D imaging of microelectronic
structures. This work will involve everything from focused ion beam specimen
preparation, imaging, reconstruction, rendering, and presentation via
digital movies. The ideal candidate should be a graduate student in
Materials Science, Physics, or equivalent, with experience in general theory
and use of transmission electron microscopes, and be particularly facile
with PCs and image processing. Unix/Linnux/SG experience would be a great
asset. This work is being conducted in collaboration with the Agard
Laboratories at UCSF, and frequent travel between Santa Clara and San
Francisco will be required. Non-citizen candidates must have a Green Card or
other legal right to work in the United States. Interested candidates should
contact me and submit resumes as soon as possible either by e-mail, phone,
or at the below mailing address. Thank you.

John Mardinly
John.Mardinly-at-Intel.com
Intel Corp.
2200 Mission College Blvd. SC9-7
Santa Clara, CA 95054
Desk: 408-765-2346
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From: hina-at-ohio.edu ()
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:25:07 -0600
Subject: Ask-A-Microscopist: osmolarity and TEM fixation

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Below is the result of your feedback form (NJZFM-ultra-55). It was
submitted by (hina-at-ohio.edu) from
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Email: hina-at-ohio.edu
Name: Sarah Hina

Organization: Ohio University

Education: Graduate College

Location: Athens, OH USA

Question: I work in a lab where we are investigating hair bundles of
the utricle (inner ear). I have a question regarding osmolarity and
TEM fixation. We are using the De Groot fixative, which contains 3%
Glutaraldehyde, 2% Paraformaldehyde, 1% Acrolein, and 2.5% DMSO in
0.8M Sodium Cacodylate-HCL buffer. The total osmolarity is 1149
mmol/kg, considerably more hypertonic than the extracellular fluid
(about 280 osmoles). I have read that glutaraldehyde and
formaldehyde do not contribute significantly to the effective osmotic
pressure of the fixative. Is this true? Does anyone know if
acrolein and DMSO contribute to the effective pressure? We measured
the osmolarity of our buffer alone, and it was a more reasonable 415
mmol/kg. Is this the more important value? Also, we are fixing by
way of vascular perfusion, which according to what I have read,
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From: Henry Eichelberger :      heichelb-at-binghamton.edu
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:58:04 -0500
Subject: NYC Source for TEM Film

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Gordon,
Although not in NYC, National Graphic Supply of Albany keep EM film in
stock and can ship the same day of order. They give a special discount price
for Colleges and Universities.
Phone: 1-800-223-7130 or check their web site at
http://www.ngscorp.com

Disclaimer: I have no commercial interest in the firm. They have supplier
us satisfactorily for many years .
Henry

Henry Eichelberger, Manager
Electron Microscopy Facility
Department of Biological Sciences
Binghamton University
Binghamton, NY 13902-6000

phone: (607) 777-2682
fax: (607) 777-6521
e-mail: heichelb-at-binghamton.edu

-----Original Message-----
} From: Gordon Nord [mailto:gnord-at-mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:25 PM
To: Microscopy-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com


Dear List,

We need a New York City source for Kodak Electron Microscope film 4489
(3.25" x 4").

Arkin Medeo was our previous source but their phones are disconnected
and we can't find them.

Thanks,
Gordon Nord

--
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Environmental Sciences Laboratory
Brooklyn College






From daemon Wed Feb 13 19:38:16 2002



From: Gary Gaugler :      gary-at-gaugler.com
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:33:38 -0800
Subject: Re: In the dark about my Densi-timer

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I use an X-Rite densitometer for critical neg analysis
and printing. Sorry, not TEM or SEM negs. But the
trick is to collect the D of highlights and shadows and
then determine the total D range of the neg. This then
leads to the optimal contrast factor for print paper and
how much dodging and burning is necessary for a
final print.

If you scan the original neg at high rez, you can get
a good idea of its range from PS histogram. Then,
adjust accordingly.

gary g.




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From: Peter Van Osta :      pvosta-at-unionbio-eu.com
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:26:06 +0100
Subject: JPEG, TIFF and nonlinearity of a camera

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Hi,

Adaptive behaviour and non-linearity of the response of a camera are
common problems in digital microscopy. Most of the cameras I prefer to
use have the option to disable this adaptive behaviour, but also the
framegrabber/digitizer can have an adaptive response. For quantitative
microscopy I prefer to disable the adaptive behaviour on both the camera
and the framegrabber.

In general it is best to calibrate the response of a camera and
framegrabber with a "dark" image and a "white" image which corresponds
with the dynamic range of the microscope image(s) you intend to acquire
after disabling the adaptive behaviour. Afterwards you can use these
images for calculation of the optimal dynamic range.

For JPEG and TIFF file formats, it is generally a bad idea to use JPEG
compression for images that need to be analysed afterwards, certainly
for color images as this will introduce artefacts. For B/W images, JPEG
compression can be used, depending on the kind of analysis that follows
or if the images are only meant for displaying and printing. In my
opinion it is no use to acquire an image with a 100X high N.A.
oil-immersion lens and afterwards destroy the fine detail with
JPEG-compression. One of the advantages of JPEG-compression however is
that there are hardware compression engines available, which allow you
to do the compression in real-time which might be useful if speed is an
issue.

For images that are meant to be analysed, I personally prefer lossles
LZW-compression on TIFF images, certainly for color images. It gives you
less data-compression than is possible with JPEG-compression, but the
quality of the iamges is better preserved.

In general one needs to be aware of the difference between lossy and
lossles compression algorithms and what the images are meant for in the
end.

Best regards,

Peter

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