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Question: hi, I'm looking for 3 example images (moved out of phase by a 1/3 each) that have been recorded using structured illumination (say using a standing wave or otherwise projected) and the resultant merged hi-res version. I would like to apply the merging formula myself to the 3 images to see whether they turn out the way I hope them to i.e (that they are identical to a provided merged image). Hope you can help....
Sputter Films Inc (805-963-9651) sells a fluid lubricant (Torr Lube) that is advertised as being especially formulated for use on rotating and sliding seals, to have a vapor pressure below 10-6 Pa, and to provide a service life of up to 30 times that of most vacuum greases in such applications (See Vacuum Methods In Electron Microscopy , p. 460).
I have also found that the perfluorinated polyether diffusion pump fluids (ibid. p. 181) such as Fomblin Y-HVAC 25/9 and Krytox 1625 are very good lubricants for use on rotating and sliding vacuum seals, and might cost you a bit less than the Torr Lube. You can get these from most of the suppliers of EM products (Spi, Ladd, M. E. Taylor, etc.etc). -- Wilbur C. Bigelow, Professor Emeritus Materials Sci. & Engr., Univ. of Michigan Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-2136 e-mail: bigelow-at-engin.umich.edu; Fx:734-763-4788; Ph:734-662-5237 Address mail to: 1136 Mixtwood Rd. Ann Arbor, MI 48103-3035
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Question: We had an unfortunate electrical accident that led to 120V going through part of the vacuum logic board from a failed turbo controller on an Amray 1700 Turbo. The console was off but the current blew the tops off of several of the logic chips and made a fuse out of one trace in the ground plane. We have some replacement chips and have found others on the net but are concerned about hidden damage. If anyone has an out-of-service 1700 Turbo or any Amray using the ES-7005-025 Vacuum logic board, we would be interested in purchasing the board.
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Question: We are seeking an engineer in cryo-electron microscopy: The candidate will be in charge of a 200 kV LaB6 electron microscope equipped with a cryo-specimen holder and a post-column energy filter (GIF). He/she will conduct cryo-TEM experiments in biology as well as in physics of complex systems (polymers, colloids, amphiphiles, Ö), from specimen preparation to interpretation and image analysis. He/she must possess good abilities to design new and delicate experiments. Theoretical and practical background in transmission electron microscopy is required. Cryo-EM expertise will be appreciated. The candidate will integrate a multidisciplinary team "Structure and function of condensed DNA" located at the Solid State Physics Laboratory of the Paris-Sud University (Orsay, France). The position could suit either a physicist or a biologist with strong motivation for interdisciplinarity. Mastering of the English and French languages is required (the interview will be in French). Application deadline May 22.
Today's challenge is trying to image platinum nanoparticles in an agarose matrix, in order to see how they distribute themselves and to get a size distribution. TEM and/or SEM are possibilities. So far, my check of the literature finds tons of stuff on nanoparticles in electrophoresis gels, but none of it is relevant, since the particles are removed from the gels and put back into a liquid medium. The one article I found that is comparable to our problem used thin-sectioning and we have tried that.
We have also tried melting the agarose, dipping grids into the particle/agarose mix, then rinsing the grid in hot water to thin the gelatin out. We can get images in the TEM, but the results are inconsistent when repeating with the same sample. Also, there is the chance that the hot water and melting are re-arranging the particles.
We have tried thin sectioning the dehydrated agarose with particles, but finding the particles in a given thin section is a crap shoot with long odds. Also, we may be cutting through aggregations we want to see.
We have tried viewing carbon-coated dehydrated agarose with particles using backscattered electrons in our FESEM. This gives images with particles, but only those on or right at the surface are imaged clearly enough for good size data. Plus, we can't see far into the agarose for good distribution data.
We are going to try increasing the concentration of the particles to increase chances of getting them reliably in thin sections, and we will also try putting the melted mixture on cover slips in a thin layer and re-trying the BSE imaging after carbon coating. (The latter still has the potential problem of redistributing the particles, however.) We could also try doing large thick or semi-thin sections and viewing them in BSE imaging.
However, if someone out there has viewing nanos in agarose down to a fine art, we, as usual, would be delighted to hear about it. In the meantime, I will continue to search the databases.
Thanks to all!
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I have recently had a discussion with a colleague about the best protocol to follow when staining cells during a time course experiment. I don't think there is a single correct answer, however, would like to know current thinking on the following issue:
Live cells were treated with a compound and observed at various time points during a period of 48 hours. At each time point, cells were fixed and immunofluorescently stained for the protein of interest.
Is it a less artefactual procedure to fix cells at each time point and keep in a buffer until the end of 48 hours to stain them all at the same time or fix and stain at each sampling time point? To stain at the same time may would reduce staining differences, however, keeping cells in buffer for different times may induce changes in the protein.
I look forward to hearing your opinions. Thank you. Judy
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Judy, An end run around the problem is to start off the treatments at different times so they all end together and then fix and stain is all done at the same time. This doesn't answer your question but maybe a useful wrinkle?
Good luck, Tobias } } } Dear microscopists } } I have recently had a discussion with a colleague about the best } protocol to follow when staining cells during a time course experiment. } I don't think there is a single correct answer, however, would like to } know current thinking on the following issue: } } Live cells were treated with a compound and observed at various time } points during a period of 48 hours. At each time point, cells were fixed } and immunofluorescently stained for the protein of interest. } } Is it a less artefactual procedure to fix cells at each time point and } keep in a buffer until the end of 48 hours to stain them all at the same } time or fix and stain at each sampling time point? To stain at the same } time may would reduce staining differences, however, keeping cells in } buffer for different times may induce changes in the protein. } } I look forward to hearing your opinions. } Thank you. } Judy } } Judy Trogadis } Bio-Imaging Coordinator } St. Michael's Hospital, 7Queen } 30 Bond St. } Toronto, ON M5B 1W8, Canada } ph: 416-864-6060 x6337 } pager: 416-685-9219 } fax: 416-864-6043 } trogadisj-at-smh.toronto.on.ca } } } ==============================Original Headers============================== } 7, 19 -- From trogadisj-at-smh.toronto.on.ca Tue May 2 14:59:26 2006 } 7, 19 -- Received: from smh.toronto.on.ca (mail.smh.toronto.on.ca } [199.71.175.103]) } 7, 19 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with } ESMTP id k42JxQwa015870 } 7, 19 -- for {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Tue, 2 May 2006 14:59:26 -0500 } 7, 19 -- Received: from ([199.71.171.15]) } 7, 19 -- by beethoven.smh.toronto.on.ca with ESMTP id } KP-GCT47.12851322; } 7, 19 -- Tue, 02 May 2006 15:59:00 -0400 } 7, 19 -- Received: from SMTPOUT-MTA by beethoven.smh.toronto.on.ca } 7, 19 -- with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 02 May 2006 15:59:00 -0400 } 7, 19 -- Message-Id: {s45781c4.036-at-beethoven.smh.toronto.on.ca} } 7, 19 -- X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.2 } 7, 19 -- Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 15:58:48 -0400 } 7, 19 -- From: "Judy Trogadis" {TrogadisJ-at-smh.toronto.on.ca} } 7, 19 -- To: {Microscopy-at-microscopy.com} } 7, 19 -- Subject: time course experiment } 7, 19 -- Mime-Version: 1.0 } 7, 19 -- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII } 7, 19 -- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit } 7, 19 -- Content-Disposition: inline } ==============================End of - Headers==============================
There are some other things to consider. First off, a great deal of this debate will depend on what you are looking for and how it reacts with your fixative. If the cells are 'lightly fixed' there may be some reversal of fixation with prolonged buffer storage. Does that effect the staining? Tobias offered a good suggestion but there might be some chrono effects, cells fixed at different times of the day or night depending on your experimental design. I suggest avoiding all problems and debate by keeping all of the fixation, buffer wash times and staining times the same. Your staining proceedure should be sufficiently standardized so that it is not a variable, or is the least problematic of the potential variables. Finally, people looking for something to criticize in your proceedures will always find something 'wrong'.
Geoff
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I don't know in detail what you want to observe, but isn't there a fluorescent tracker-molecule (such as a Lyso-tracker) available for your purpose? Another more ideal solution might be creating a, for that one protein GFP-positive cell-line?! Than you could make a continuous time-lapse without the need of fixation etc., all depending on your experiment's requests of course!
Anyway, if the fixation is strong enough, does the protein still show activity / are changes still induced? To my opinion and experience, if fixed strong enough and there are no/little changes, it should not matter whether the cells are stained immediately or a few hours later, especially when also stored cold. Best regards,
Sven Terclavers
-----Original Message----- X-from: TrogadisJ-at-smh.toronto.on.ca [mailto:TrogadisJ-at-smh.toronto.on.ca] Sent: dinsdag 2 mei 2006 22:02 To: sven.terclavers-at-med.kuleuven.be
Dear microscopists
I have recently had a discussion with a colleague about the best protocol to follow when staining cells during a time course experiment. I don't think there is a single correct answer, however, would like to know current thinking on the following issue:
Live cells were treated with a compound and observed at various time points during a period of 48 hours. At each time point, cells were fixed and immunofluorescently stained for the protein of interest.
Is it a less artefactual procedure to fix cells at each time point and keep in a buffer until the end of 48 hours to stain them all at the same time or fix and stain at each sampling time point? To stain at the same time may would reduce staining differences, however, keeping cells in buffer for different times may induce changes in the protein.
I look forward to hearing your opinions. Thank you. Judy
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This is a specimen prep question for everyone out there with EM expertise. We are having terrible success with Lead Citrate contrast staining. Principally, we suffer from precipitates showing up all over the specimen. On the advice of EM science technical support, we are double distilling our own water (they say Milli-Q is too pure and also is de-ionized which we don't want for EM). Then we make it CO2 free by autoclaving and capping directly upon removal from the autoclave. We do this the morning of reagent prep--so it doesn't sit in the bottle for longer than it takes to cool down before we begin making up the Reynolds.
We make the Reynolds Lead citrate according to the protocol listed in Ch 5 of Bozzola and Russell's Electron Microscopy (2nd edition) (mix 1.33g lead nitrate, 1.76g sodium citrate, and 30ml CO2 free double distilled water...shake vigorously for a few minutes and then again 5-6 times over the next 30 minutes). Ensure solution is milky white and free of particles. Add 8.0 ml commercially prepared, titrated 1.0 N NaOH--from EM science--solution turns clear. Adjust pH strictly to 12.0+/-0.1 unit. Bring volume to 50ml with CO2-free double distilled water. Stopper tightly with rubber stopper and parafilm until use later that day.
When we stain the grids with lead nitrate, we make sure to wash well before and after with CO2 free double distilled water in addition to surrounding the staining plate (Hiraoka kit) with NaOH pellets. In addition, we centrifuge the Reynolds at 5000xg for 8 minutes prior to use AND we 0.2um filter it into staining plate.
ANY advice or thoughts are welcome...what are we doing wrong?? What can we change about this protocol to ensure ppt free staining?
A thousand thanks in advance!
Danielle Crippen Morphology and Imaging Core Manager Buck Institute for Age Research 8001 Redwood Blvd. Novato, CA 94945 415-209-2046 dcrippen-at-buckinstitute.org
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Are you SURE it's lead citrate precip? There are many other sources of precipitates and "pepper", as I'm sure you're aware. What kind of sample are you preparing? What buffer is being used? Are you osmicating your samples?
We fought a pepper problem for over two years, before finally discovering that adding 2-mercaptoethanol to our buffer solved the problem.
Feel free to email an image, if you like.
Randy
Randy Tindall EM Specialist Electron Microscopy Core Facility---We Do Small Well! W125 Veterinary Medicine University of Missouri Columbia, MO 65211 Tel: (573) 882-8304 Fax: (573) 884-2227 Email: tindallr-at-missouri.edu Web: http://www.emc.missouri.edu
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Dear TEM users,
This is a specimen prep question for everyone out there with EM expertise. We are having terrible success with Lead Citrate contrast staining. Principally, we suffer from precipitates showing up all over the specimen. On the advice of EM science technical support, we are double distilling our own water (they say Milli-Q is too pure and also is de-ionized which we don't want for EM). Then we make it CO2 free by autoclaving and capping directly upon removal from the autoclave. We do this the morning of reagent prep--so it doesn't sit in the bottle for longer than it takes to cool down before we begin making up the Reynolds.
We make the Reynolds Lead citrate according to the protocol listed in Ch 5 of Bozzola and Russell's Electron Microscopy (2nd edition) (mix 1.33g lead nitrate, 1.76g sodium citrate, and 30ml CO2 free double distilled water...shake vigorously for a few minutes and then again 5-6 times over the next 30 minutes). Ensure solution is milky white and free of particles. Add 8.0 ml commercially prepared, titrated 1.0 N NaOH--from EM science--solution turns clear. Adjust pH strictly to 12.0+/-0.1 unit. Bring volume to 50ml with CO2-free double distilled water. Stopper tightly with rubber stopper and parafilm until use later that day.
When we stain the grids with lead nitrate, we make sure to wash well before and after with CO2 free double distilled water in addition to surrounding the staining plate (Hiraoka kit) with NaOH pellets. In addition, we centrifuge the Reynolds at 5000xg for 8 minutes prior to use AND we 0.2um filter it into staining plate.
ANY advice or thoughts are welcome...what are we doing wrong?? What can we change about this protocol to ensure ppt free staining?
A thousand thanks in advance!
Danielle Crippen Morphology and Imaging Core Manager Buck Institute for Age Research 8001 Redwood Blvd. Novato, CA 94945 415-209-2046 dcrippen-at-buckinstitute.org
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Danielle,
I haven't worked in biological electron microscopy for over 25 years. However, I vividly remember a colleague having a terrible time with precipitates from lead citrate staining. Turned out that the problem was his eye-sight. He was extremely near-sighted. To watch his work, his face was only several inches from the staining grid and water rinse. The source of the problem was CO2 from his breath. Another colleague happened to see his proximity to the stain and suggested the source of the problem. The precipitates disappeared once he isolated his exhaust from the process.
Food for thought.
Regards,
Gary M. Brown ExxonMobil Chemical Company Baytown Technology & Engineering - West 5200 Bayway Drive Baytown, Texas 77520-2101 phone: 281 834 2387 fax: 281 834 2395 e-mail: Gary.M.Brown-at-ExxonMobil.com
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Dear TEM users,
This is a specimen prep question for everyone out there with EM expertise. We are having terrible success with Lead Citrate contrast staining. Principally, we suffer from precipitates showing up all over the specimen. On the advice of EM science technical support, we are double distilling our own water (they say Milli-Q is too pure and also is de-ionized which we don't want for EM). Then we make it CO2 free by autoclaving and capping directly upon removal from the autoclave. We do this the morning of reagent prep--so it doesn't sit in the bottle for longer than it takes to cool down before we begin making up the Reynolds.
We make the Reynolds Lead citrate according to the protocol listed in Ch 5 of Bozzola and Russell's Electron Microscopy (2nd edition) (mix 1.33g lead nitrate, 1.76g sodium citrate, and 30ml CO2 free double distilled water...shake vigorously for a few minutes and then again 5-6 times over the next 30 minutes). Ensure solution is milky white and free of particles. Add 8.0 ml commercially prepared, titrated 1.0 N NaOH--from EM science--solution turns clear. Adjust pH strictly to 12.0+/-0.1 unit. Bring volume to 50ml with CO2-free double distilled water. Stopper tightly with rubber stopper and parafilm until use later that day.
When we stain the grids with lead nitrate, we make sure to wash well before and after with CO2 free double distilled water in addition to surrounding the staining plate (Hiraoka kit) with NaOH pellets. In addition, we centrifuge the Reynolds at 5000xg for 8 minutes prior to use AND we 0.2um filter it into staining plate.
ANY advice or thoughts are welcome...what are we doing wrong?? What can we change about this protocol to ensure ppt free staining?
A thousand thanks in advance!
Danielle Crippen Morphology and Imaging Core Manager Buck Institute for Age Research 8001 Redwood Blvd. Novato, CA 94945 415-209-2046 dcrippen-at-buckinstitute.org
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On May 2, 2006, at 12:26 PM, TindallR-at-missouri.edu wrote:
} Today's challenge is trying to image platinum nanoparticles in an } agarose matrix, in order to see how they distribute themselves and to } get a size distribution. TEM and/or SEM are possibilities. So far, my } check of the literature finds tons of stuff on nanoparticles in } electrophoresis gels, but none of it is relevant, since the particles } are removed from the gels and put back into a liquid medium. The one } article I found that is comparable to our problem used thin-sectioning } and we have tried that. } } We have also tried melting the agarose, dipping grids into the } particle/agarose mix, then rinsing the grid in hot water to thin the } gelatin out. We can get images in the TEM, but the results are } inconsistent when repeating with the same sample. Also, there is the } chance that the hot water and melting are re-arranging the particles. } } We have tried thin sectioning the dehydrated agarose with particles, } but } finding the particles in a given thin section is a crap shoot with long } odds. Also, we may be cutting through aggregations we want to see. } } We have tried viewing carbon-coated dehydrated agarose with particles } using backscattered electrons in our FESEM. This gives images with } particles, but only those on or right at the surface are imaged clearly } enough for good size data. Plus, we can't see far into the agarose for } good distribution data. } } We are going to try increasing the concentration of the particles to } increase chances of getting them reliably in thin sections, and we will } also try putting the melted mixture on cover slips in a thin layer and } re-trying the BSE imaging after carbon coating. (The latter still has } the potential problem of redistributing the particles, however.) We } could also try doing large thick or semi-thin sections and viewing them } in BSE imaging. } } However, if someone out there has viewing nanos in agarose down to a } fine art, we, as usual, would be delighted to hear about it. In the } meantime, I will continue to search the databases. } Dear Randy, Thick or semi-thick sections in TEM would be my choice--probably since I have a 300 kV TEM. If you can get to a high-pressure freezer, I would suggest using that to prepare your specimens, followed by freeze-substitution and resin embedding. Assuming that you do not need to image the strands of agarose, just section the embedded specimen and observe. Yours, Bill Tivol, PhD EM Scientist and Manager Cryo-Electron Microscopy Facility Broad Center, Mail Code 114-96 California Institute of Technology Pasadena CA 91125 (626) 395-8833 tivol-at-caltech.edu
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Reaching into my past......We used special analytical grade NaOH, since it seemed to us that the NaOH was picking up carbonate from the air. The analytical grade stuff came in a sealed glass vial, and made quite a difference.
Joel
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This may be shear luck, but I've never had trouble with precipitate (other things yes, but ppte no) - I keep my lead citrate (made up with ordinary distilled water, not specially CO2 free) in a volumetric flask (50ml), which sits in the same place month after month and is never moved. I don't use the stain for 24 hours after it's prepared, but then just carefully take off what's needed from close to the surface using a glass pipette. I wipe the end of the pipette with a tissue before dispensing the stain and then discard the first drop. I put the drops onto Parafilm in a covered glass petri dish. No need for NaOH pellets. Finally wash the grids for 5 seconds in a gentle stream of water from a wash bottle. I probably shouldn't admit this but I've had a bottle of stain last over 2 years (the surface of the bottle becomes cloudy with ppte) and still produce perfect results.
Cheers,
Diana
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We keep lead citrate prepared by reynold's method for months in a volumetric flask, Use Whatman 1 to filter and make drops on a parafilm in a petridish containing NaOH pellets. After staining for 1-3 min, wash the grids in water, then water with about 0.01% NaOH and again water. Never had any precipitates.
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Doesn't anybody else use or recommend Sato's lead stain as a more stable replacement for Reynolds Pb citrate? We've used it since the 1970s. 1968 Sato, T.: J. Electron Microsc. 17:158, 1968. 1968 Sato and others: Proc. XIth Int. Cong. on Electron Microscopy. Kyoto. 1986, pp. 2181-2182. [
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************************ Michael K. Reedy, M.D. Duke Univ. Med. Center Dept. Cell Biology, Box 3011 (for U.S. Mail) 458 Alex Sands Bldg, Research Dr (courier) Durham, NC 27710
since it was not an issue in the replies so far, I would like to ask wether your double distilling apparatus overall is made of quartz glass or does have a destillate } container { bin made from metal (e. g. copper).
I only would like to add this since we had - several years ago - a problem when our destillation apparatus was out of function and on repair for some month and we used } bidistilled { water obtained from our hospital pharmacy. We had a lot of precipitation problems then, which ended not before we changed to the ddH2O from the repaired quartz-glass still used formerly.
When checking the quality of the "pharmacy"-water later on it turned out to contain a high amount of copper-ions (storage bin was made from copper sheets), which IMO perhaps might have had a detrimental precipitating action on the lead-staining performance.
By the way: we use Lead Citrate according to Venable&Coggeshall (1965), store solutions in "ultraclean" snap cap-glass-vials [and also ultraclean plastic snap cap!] which are used only for that purpose, that means we take care of any traces of cleaning substances by washing /cleaning also with chrome-sulfuric acid or a modern substitute but take care by ourselves (not a washing machine) to get rid of any resting traces of substances by vigorously washing several times with bidistilled hot water and a final step with ultrapure water (UHQ). We found also that intermittent air drying of glass vial/bottle creates probably otherwise insoluble incrustations, so we always keep the stuff in wet condition until the final step of cleaning.
Another point we found is that "freshly" made lead citrate solution (Venable&Coggeshall) -if used the same day - will be "more aggressive/more reactive", that means, we decrease staining times (say 30 sec when freshly prepared instead of 2-3 min -at-room temperature, e.g. after one week storage in the dark).
Avoiding or at least some sort of control for the CO2-reaction is obligatory in our lab (NaOH-pellets in a petridish filled with dental wax, the latter always being melted and } flamed/singed { after a staining cycle, but perhaps use of virgin, clean? { {Parafilm} } sheets is the better choice) knowing that some/severely disturbing precipitation nuclei also could be present in previousely uncleaned, and therefore } oily { injection needles, syringes, (plastic) tips, rubber stoppers (especially if always one and the same is used) as well as the surface areas where you are staining/handling your grids.
In general our experience is / was: the more steps you are introducing in your schedule to reduce an anticipated precipitate (or to inhibit the formation of such one) the more you (likely) will initiate precipitation due to unexpected particle impurities.
All best wishes for an excellent result of your next staining series,
Wolfgang Muss Salzburg Austria ---------- Von: dcrippen-at-buckinstitute.org[SMTP:dcrippen-at-buckinstitute.org] Antwort an: dcrippen-at-buckinstitute.org Gesendet: Mittwoch, 03. Mai 2006 00:50 An: W.Muss-at-salk.at Betreff: [Microscopy] TEM--Lead Citrate--HELP!!
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This is a specimen prep question for everyone out there with EM expertise. We are having terrible success with Lead Citrate contrast staining. Principally, we suffer from precipitates showing up all over the specimen. On the advice of EM science technical support, we are double distilling our own water (they say Milli-Q is too pure and also is de-ionized which we don't want for EM). Then we make it CO2 free by autoclaving and capping directly upon removal from the autoclave. We do this the morning of reagent prep--so it doesn't sit in the bottle for longer than it takes to cool down before we begin making up the Reynolds.
We make the Reynolds Lead citrate according to the protocol listed in Ch 5 of Bozzola and Russell's Electron Microscopy (2nd edition) (mix 1.33g lead nitrate, 1.76g sodium citrate, and 30ml CO2 free double distilled water...shake vigorously for a few minutes and then again 5-6 times over the next 30 minutes). Ensure solution is milky white and free of particles. Add 8.0 ml commercially prepared, titrated 1.0 N NaOH--from EM science--solution turns clear. Adjust pH strictly to 12.0+/-0.1 unit. Bring volume to 50ml with CO2-free double distilled water. Stopper tightly with rubber stopper and parafilm until use later that day.
When we stain the grids with lead nitrate, we make sure to wash well before and after with CO2 free double distilled water in addition to surrounding the staining plate (Hiraoka kit) with NaOH pellets. In addition, we centrifuge the Reynolds at 5000xg for 8 minutes prior to use AND we 0.2um filter it into staining plate.
ANY advice or thoughts are welcome...what are we doing wrong?? What can we change about this protocol to ensure ppt free staining?
A thousand thanks in advance!
Danielle Crippen Morphology and Imaging Core Manager Buck Institute for Age Research 8001 Redwood Blvd. Novato, CA 94945 415-209-2046 dcrippen-at-buckinstitute.org
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Hi folks, Strictly this isn't a microscopy question but I think I have a fair chance of catching someone who might be able to help!
I was looking through our boxes of 'historical' samples (there has been a materials analysis lab here for more than 50 years), and I have examples of 1", 2", 3", 4", 6" and 8" Si wafers. Since we stopped getting Si samples to analyse about 5 years ago I don't have any 12" (or 300mm, I should say) wafers. Is there anyone out there willing to swap a 12" wafer for a 1" one? I know it doesn't seem like good value for the amount of material but I hope that would be more than compensated for by the historical interest. Or I could swap odd bits of Ge, GaAs, InP, sapphire, etc. etc. if Si isn't your bag. Perhaps I should start up a little 'Caswell museum'..
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} This may be shear luck, but I've never had trouble with } precipitate (other things yes, but ppte no) - I keep my lead } citrate (made up with ordinary distilled water, not specially } CO2 free) in a volumetric flask (50ml), which sits in the } same place month after month and is never moved. I don't use } the stain for 24 hours after it's prepared, but then just } carefully take off what's needed from close to the surface } using a glass pipette. I wipe the end of the pipette with a } tissue before dispensing the stain and then discard the first } drop. I put the drops onto Parafilm in a covered glass petri } dish. No need for NaOH pellets. Finally wash the grids for 5 } seconds in a gentle stream of water from a wash bottle. I } probably shouldn't admit this but I've had a bottle of stain } last over 2 years (the surface of the bottle becomes cloudy } with ppte) and still produce perfect results. } } Cheers, } } Diana
I use similar protocol, but I do use DI-} distilled-} boiled water and I do put NaOH pellets in the petry dish. Never tried to keep stain for 2 years, but for 6 month it works fine.
Vladimir
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I have been using "calcined lead citrate" (apparently a modification of Sato's lead citrate) for a couple of years, and it certainly is much more stable than traditional Reynold's lead citrate. Takamasa Hanaichi et al. (1986) A Stable Lead by Modification of Sato's Method. J. Electron Microsc., Vol. 35. No. 3. 304-306. --Jan Factor
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mike.reedy-at-cellbio.duke.edu wrote: --| ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --| The Microscopy ListServer -- CoSponsor: The Microscopy Society of America --| To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver --| On-Line Help http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html --| ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --| --| Doesn't anybody else use or recommend Sato's lead stain as a more --| stable replacement for Reynolds Pb citrate? We've used it since the --| 1970s. --| 1968 Sato, T.: J. Electron Microsc. 17:158, 1968. --| 1968 Sato and others: Proc. XIth Int. Cong. on Electron Microscopy. --| Kyoto. 1986, pp. 2181-2182. [ --| --| -mike reedy- --| --| At 5:49 PM -0500 5/2/06, dcrippen-at-buckinstitute.org wrote: --| --|--| ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --|--| The Microscopy ListServer -- CoSponsor: The Microscopy Society of America --|--| To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver --|--| On-Line Help http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html --|--| ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --|--| --|--| Dear TEM users, --|--| --|--| This is a specimen prep question for everyone out there with EM --|--| expertise. We are having terrible success with Lead Citrate --|--| contrast staining. Principally, we suffer from precipitates showing --|--| up all over the specimen. On the advice of EM science technical --|--| support, we are double distilling our own water (they say Milli-Q is --|--| too pure and also is de-ionized which we don't want for EM). Then --|--| we make it CO2 free by autoclaving and capping directly upon removal --|--| --| --|from the autoclave. We do this the morning of reagent prep--so it --| --|--| doesn't sit in the bottle for longer than it takes to cool down --|--| before we begin making up the Reynolds. --|--| --|--| We make the Reynolds Lead citrate according to the protocol listed --|--| in Ch 5 of Bozzola and Russell's Electron Microscopy (2nd edition) --|--| (mix 1.33g lead nitrate, 1.76g sodium citrate, and 30ml CO2 free --|--| double distilled water...shake vigorously for a few miutes and then --|--| again 5-6 times over the next 30 minutes). Ensure solution is milky --|--| white and free of particles. Add 8.0 ml commercially prepared, --|--| titrated 1.0 N NaOH--from EM science--solution turns clear. Adjust --|--| pH strictly to 12.0+/-0.1 unit. Bring volume to 50ml with CO2-free --|--| double distilled water. Stopper tightly with rubber stopper and --|--| parafilm until use later that day. --|--| --|--| When we stain the grids with lead nitrate, we make sure to wash well --|--| before and after with CO2 free double distilled water in addition to --|--| surrounding the staining plate (Hiraoka kit) with NaOH pellets. In --|--| addition, we centrifuge the Reynolds at 5000xg for 8 minutes prior --|--| to use AND we 0.2um filter it into staining plate. --|--| --|--| ANY advice or thoughts are welcome...what are we doing wrong?? What --|--| can we change about this protocol to ensure ppt free staining? --|--| --|--| A thousand thanks in advance! --|--| --|--| Danielle Crippen --|--| Morphology and Imaging Core Manager --|--| Buck Institute for Age Research --|--| 8001 Redwood Blvd. --|--| Novato, CA 94945 --|--| 415-209-2046 --|--| dcrippen-at-buckinstitute.org --|--| --|--|
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I've had a couple of inquiries about calcined lead citrate, so I thought I'd send this to the list in case anyone else is interested. (To be fair, I learned about this method by perusing the EMS Catalog, which has the formulation.) I've pasted the relevant page from my in-house lab manual (below). To prepare the calcined the lead citrate, the unusual step, I simply went up to our chemistry program and asked them to fire up their high-temp oven (which is in a fume hood) for the day. Once you get a successful batch of calcined lead citrate, and I suggest making a good deal more than you need immediately, it can be stored as a powder in a vial for some time (perhaps indefinitely?). This way, you only have to bake it once, and you can make enough for multiple batches of lead citrate stain. I still use the usual precautions when handling lead stain, such as using NaOH pellets, and I spin down the stain in a table-top centrifuge before each use. Hope this is helpful. --Jan
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Calcined lead citrate (Hanaichi et al., 1986)
Calcined lead citrate is a stable, non-precipitating replacement for Reynolds’ lead citrate, which is reportedly free from precipitates for over one year when kept at room temperature. Takamasa Hanaichi et al. (1986) A Stable Lead by Modification of Sato's Method. J. Electron Microsc., Vol. 35. No. 3. 304-306. Calcined lead citrate: Heat crystal lead citrate for several hours in a melting pot (200-300̊C) until the color changes to a light brownish yellow. This takes ~6.5 hrs at 250̊C. Note: Check the color periodically, as overheated lead citrate with a dark brownish or black color can't be used. The calcined lead citrate can be stored and used for repeated batches of stain.
The stock lead solution: 1. The following reagents are placed in a 50 ml volumetric flask and mixed well to produce a yellowish milky solution: CALCINED LEAD CITRATE........0.20 g Prepared from lead citrate Lead nitrate......................................0.15 g Lead acetate....................................0.15 g EMS #17600-25, 25g Sodium citrate.................................1.00 g Distilled water................................ 41.00 ml
2. Then, add: 1.0N NaOH.....................................9.0 ml Carbonate free, EMS #21170-01, 225ml Then 9.0 ml of 1N NaOH (use carbonate free solution) is added to the solution and mixed well until the solution becomes clear with a light yellowish color. The solution is then transferred to an amber glass with screw cap bottle for storage, and can be stored at room temperature or in the refrigerator (recommended) for over 1 year.
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I have a client who would like to do some confocal on GFP-transformed Arabidopsis (no problem) and then some TEM immunolabeling. What do I need to know about buying an anti-GFP antibody conjugated to gold? Any tricks, or is it straightforward? Does anyone have a favorite vendor? Any tips gratefully accepted!
Aloha, Tina
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I am observing the internalization of a fluorescent component in the cells. I thought it would be a good idea to quench the extracellular fluorescence after several hours of incubation. This way I would see only the fluorescence coming from inside the cells. Would you know a substance which quenches Alexa488 dyes and which is not toxic to the cells (and do not enter the cells)? Stéphane-without-an-i
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I am not aware of anti-GFP gold conjugate (although it may be somewhere out there), but you can use the indirect method, i.e. primary antibody/secondary conjugate (protein A/gold or secondary antibody/gold). For the primary, we use Torrey Pines Biolabs purified rabbit Anti-GFP, that works well even after 2% formaldehyde/0.2% glutaraldehyde (that is what we use for Tokuyashu's technique).
Hope this helps,
Michal
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Question: Hello Tina and Everyone:
We don't have a gold probe for this (yet), and can't comment on the best antibodies, but the question comes up occasionally, and we keep an eye out for references. We have reported on several that might be helpful in back issues of our newsletter:
http://www.nanoprobes.com/Newsletter_Archive.html
(1) Follet‚Gueye and co-workers have reported an improved fixation method for the immunogold localization of green fluorescent protein (GFP). The method is a simple one-step procedure which consists of fixing in the dark for 30 min, 60 min, or 120 min at 4ƒC in a solution consisting of 1% glutaraldehyde and 1% osmium tetroxide in 0.1 M Na cacodylate buffer, pH 7.2. This mixture was prepared and used immediately. After washing in distilled water, the samples were gradually dehydrated in 10%, 20%, and 40% aqueous ethanol (10 min in each bath), then in 60% and 80% (20 min in each bath), and finally in anhydrous ethanol for 30 min, and embedded in LR White or Spurr resin. GFP-tagged Golgi glycosyltransferase was localized in transgenic BY-2 cells using rabbit anti-GFP primary and 10 nm gold anti-rabbit secondary antibodies; this method allowed improved structural preservation of the endomembrane system, and anti-GFP antibodies bound with high specificity, allowing the localization of GFP-tagged glycosyltransferases within individual Golgi cisternae.
Reference:
Follet-Gueye, M. L.; Pagny, S.; Faye, L.; Gomord, V., and Driouich, A.: An improved chemical fixation method suitable for immunogold localization of green fluorescent protein in the Golgi apparatus of tobacco Bright Yellow (BY-2) cells. J. Histochem. Cytochem., 51, 931-940 (2003).
Abstract (courtesy of the Journal of Histochemistry and Cytochemistry): http://www.jhc.org/cgi/content/abstract/51/7/931
Reprint (courtesy of the Journal of Histochemistry and Cytochemistry): http://www.jhc.org/cgi/reprint/51/7/931
(2) Luby-Phelps and co-workers describe a procedure for labeling green fluorescent protein (GFP)-expressing cells in 1-micron zebrafish sections for fluorescence and electron microscope observation using a 10 nm gold-labeled secondary antibody. GFP fluorescence survived fixation in 4% paraformaldehyde/0.1% glutaraldehyde and can be visualized directly by fluorescence microscopy. For electron microscopy, thin sections of silver‚gold color were collected on nickel grids and were incubated in anti-GFP antibody at a 1:25 dilution for 2 hr at room temperature, followed by 10-nm immunogold-conjugated goat anti-rabbit IgG for 1 hr. After contrasting with 3% aqueous uranyl acetate solution, the grids were dried and viewed with a Hitachi 600 transmission electron microscope operated at 75 kV.
Reference:
Luby‚Phelps, K.; Ning, G.; Fogerty, J., and Besharse, J. C.: Visualization of Identified GFP-expressing Cells by Light and Electron Microscopy. J. Histochem. Cytochem., 51, 271-274 (2003).
Abstract (courtesy of the Journal of Histochemistry and Cytochemistry): http://www.jhc.org/cgi/content/abstract/51/3/271
Reprint (courtesy of the Journal of Histochemistry and Cytochemistry): http://www.jhc.org/cgi/reprint/51/3/271
(3) Joanne Buchanan and co-workers investigated immuno-EM of GFP with NanogoldÆ secondary antibody conjugates, and described some results at Microscopy & Microanalysis 2002: use of microwave processing greatly shortened all the steps.
Reference:
Buchanan, J.; Micheva, K. D., and Smith, S. J.; Microwave Processing and Pre-embedding Nanogold Immunolabeling for Electron Microscopy. Microsc. Microanal., 8, (Suppl. 2: Proceedings); Lyman, C. E.; Albrecht, R. M.; Carter, C. B.; Dravid, V. P.; Herman, B., and Schatten, H. (Eds.); Cambridge University Press, New York, NY, 2002, 160.
Prior and co-workers prepared their own 5nm gold anti-GFP:
Prior, I. A.; Muncke, C.; Parton, R. G., and Hancock J. F.: Direct visualization of Ras proteins in spatially distinct cell surface microdomains. J. Cell. Biol., 160, 165-170 (2003).
Reprint (Journal of Cell Science): http://www.jcb.org/cgi/reprint/160/2/165
Hope some of this is helpful,
Rick Powell
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I have a client who would like to do some confocal on GFP-transformed Arabidopsis (no problem) and then some TEM immunolabeling. What do I need to know about buying an anti-GFP antibody conjugated to gold? Any tricks, or is it straightforward? Does anyone have a favorite vendor? Any tips gratefully accepted!
Aloha, Tina
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Hi Tina, I have not had very good luck with localizing GFP for on TEM sectios. Hope you will share any good suggestions that you get
Greg
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Dear All, I am looking for a flange to mount a KEVEX EDS detector on my Philips 525 SEM (conical lens). Or for a drawing to help manufacturing the flange.
Hi Tina. We published a detailed protocol : Micheva, Buchanan, Hotz and Smith Nature Neuroscience 2003 Vol 6 #9 p925-32. I have had some good results with anti GFP antibodies from MBL and Roche for TEM. We used Fluro-Nanogold secondaries and silver enhanced and looked at hippocampal neurons in culture, Drosophila salivary glands and mouse brain -all pre-embedding labeling. I don't have any experience with aradadopsis. Good luck let me know if you need more info. JoAnn Buchanan
Department of Molecular and Cellular Physiology Stanford University School of Medicine Stanford, CA 94305 650-723-5856
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I am looking for a method to identify Type IIB skeletal muscle fibers at the electron microscopy level in human muscle biopsies. There are well established techniques for light microscopy, typically detecting ATPase, but I need good fixation and embedding for immunoelectron microscopy. A reasonable fixation compromise is 2% formaldehyde and 0.1% --0.2% glutaraldehyde with embedding in LR White/Gold or one of the Lowicryl resins. Any suggestions? Any experience with a particular antibody for human type IIB fibers?
-- Larry Ackerman, Associate Specialist UCSF, Dept. of Anatomy, Rm S1347 513 Parnassus Ave., Box 0452 San Francisco, CA 94143
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] Independent microscope service engineers for JEOL microsocpes
Question: Is there an independent person servicing JEOL microscopes who on the west coast,specifically Washington.
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] Breakage of section under the beam of TEM H7600 EM
Question: Dear All,
We're recently experiencing breakage of our sections (no matter what the thickness is) while imaging our samples under TEM H7600 Electron Microscope.
The section's thickness is usually 70-90 nm and spread nicely on a 200 mesh square Cu grid.
Our TEM H7600 is only two years old and works very well except for breaking the section. Even though we changed HV from 80 to 100 (Acc. Voltage Control, it didn't help and still broke the section.
We most likely experience this problem while imaging with the BottomMount of AMT542 camera, which used for high magnification samples.
Any comment on how to solve this problem or to control the beam from breaking the sections?
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Organization: Stockholm University, Stockholm, Sweden
Title-Subject: [Filtered] TEM EELS; any old/used spectrometer available?
Question: Hello everyone!
I have a question that I would like to ask and Gerald Kothleitner at Graz recommended this forum to me, i.e. this is my first posting here.
At Stockholm University, we are buying some new TEM and spectrometer equipment. In the purchase process, however, we have an extra microscope. My idea is, if possible, to buy an additional spectrometer, a used one, for example GIF or PEELS to use together with our extra microscope (our old JEOL 3010 LaB6 instrument) so that young scientists can get more access to the instruments as well. So my question is, if you have, or if you know someone who has an old GIF or PEELS or similar that is not or will not be needed anymore at your lab due to for example an upgrade, or if is not needed anymore for any reason. Then "I" would be very interested in somehow purchasing this old/used spectrometer system for an affordable price (because it is not part of our current budget). I am asking this question as a PhD student, but I will happily forward your proposals or give you the contact information to the people who are making the decisions at my university.
Dear Ferri, We have the same instrument and I have seen the problem you are experiencing. We have found it is usually a no more than a specimen clamping problem.You must make sure that the clamping mechanism is correctly located over the grid hole. We always use a pointed wooden spill to gently push it into place , you will hear a 'click' as it locates. It could be that the holder and clamping mechanism just need cleaning so that a good contact can be made.. This is not a unique problem to the H7600 in any TEM if the grid is not firmly clamped this will happen. Hope this solves it for you. Regards
Christine.
Christine Richardson Experimental Officer School of Biological and Biomedical Science Centre for Molecular Imaging University of Durham Science site South Rd Durham England DH1 3LE Tel: 0191 3341285\3341321 Fax:0191 3341201 E-mail: a.c.richardson-at-dur.ac.uk
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Thanks to all who responded with tips. We will try an indirect labeling process, and I will fix more lightly than usual. If we are dramatically successful, I'll post our procedure!
Mahalo, Tina
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Here is the May 2006 Microscopy Today table of contents. I will close the subscription list for this issue on Thursday May 11, 2006.
Microscopists in North America and MSA members anywhere can subscribe for free. Anyone else may subscribe for US$50 per year (to PARTIALLY cover postage). All subscriptions at http://www.microscopy-today.com Thank you.
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Teaching Old Microscopes New Tricks Stephen W. Carmichael, Mayo Clinic
VisBio: a Flexible Open-Source Visualization Package for Multidimensional Image Data Curtis T. Rueden and Kevin W. Eliceiri, U. Wisconsin-Madison
BioImageXD – New Open Source Free Software for the Processing, Analysis and Visualization of Multidimensional Microscopic Images P. Kankaanpää1, K. Pahajoki1, V. Marjomäki2, J. Heino2, D. White2 1University Turku, 2University Jyväskylä, Finland
Novel Developments in High-Frequency Micro-Ultrasound Imaging Tom Little, VisualSonics Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Precise SEM Cross Section Polishing via Argon Beam Milling N. Erdman, R. Campbell, and S. Asahina,* JEOL USA Inc., Peabody, Massachusetts, *JEOL Ltd., Japan
Perfusion Fixation of Research Animals C. W. Scouten,* R. O’Connor,** & M. Cunningham** *MyNeuroLab.com, St Louis, MO, ** Harvard U., Belmont, MA
Three-Dimensional Crystallographic Analysis Beyond EBSD Mapping: The Next Dimension J.J.L. Mulders*, and A. Gholinia**, * FEI, Eindhoven, The Netherlands, ** HKL Technology, Hobro, Denmark
Improved Cutting of One-Micron Plastic Sections using Qwick Glass Knives J. T. McMahon and J. Alsouss, Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Ohio
The Scanning of Colour and B&W Film and Photographs for Image Processing, Analysis and Archiving - On a Tight Budget Keith J. Morris, The Institute of Ophthalmology, UCL, UK
A Comment on AFM vs. Replicas for High Resolution Imaging Don Chernoff, Advanced Surface Microscopy, Inc.
Embedding Cultured Cells Grown in Well Plates Leona Cohen-Gould, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY
Flies in a Box P. S. Connelly & L. Ruggiero,* *Oregon Health and Science U. Portland, OR
A Comment on using FLIM with FRET Karl Garsha, Roper Scientific, Tucson, AZ
Microscopy for Children Carolyn Schooley, MSA Project MICRO
New and Interesting at PITTCON & Industry News
NetNotes Topics
--LM - floaters
--SAMPLE PREPARATION - viral particles
--SAMPLE PREPARATION – cell culture preparation
--SAMPLE PREPARATION - propylene oxide
--SAMPLE PREPARATION - MgO preparation and Fe oxidation
--MICROTOMY – cleaning grids
--MICROTOMY - section thickness
--IMMUNOCYTOCHEMISTRY - nanogold in semithin sections
--EM - microscope cooling lines
--EM – operating voltage
--TEM - Replicas
--TEM - carbon post-coating
--EDS - Low Z peak pileup
Index of Advertisers
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I am new to the listserve and was hoping somebody could give me some advise and/or guidance. I am looking for the best way to embed, cut, and adhere to microscope slides wool/hair fibers. I have tried nitrocellulose/paraffin, Spurr's Resin, Epon, and LR white. I am having an issue with the fibers popping out of the resin during sectioning and/or during the sample processing. I have tried cutting the resin dry and wet - floating off into water. I have tried infiltrating with acetone/resin and ethanol/resin mixtures with the Spurr's resin, acetone/resin infiltration with the Epon and LR white. I seem to get the best cuts with LR white (5 microns) dry but then I have a problem adhering them to a slide for processing. To improve sample adhesion, I have tried albumin, gelatin, and neoprene. Of the three, neoprene seems to work the best. If anybody can offer advice for any or all of these issues, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you, Felicia Dixon
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If I recall my history of optics properly, people in the Middle Ages knew precisely what things looked like at the microscopical level but just couldn't draw accurate pictures of them. So they made the technological decision to develop the microscope so they could show each other what they already knew God had created. Really, it wasn't investigation, it was just confirmation of what they already knew was there. Thus, they were able to illustrate that ontogeny really does recapitulate philogeny. They "illustrated", not "investigated".
I hope we've settled this issue.
-Michael the OHR (Optics Historian of Record)
At 03:22 PM 04/20/06 -0500, you wrote:
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What!? There are several ideas in there that are hard for me to swallow. Of course, I know that my ability to swallow alone does not determine the truth of concept.
I am not so familiar with the early history of microscopy and the thinking surrounding it. (I would not think of challenging you for the position of OHR.) I doubt there was a decision made to develop microscopy to only verify what was suspected of being there. Their preconceptions might be considered hypotheses in need of verification, but we certainly get surprised enough about hypotheses on a macro scale. Microscopy would hardly be more of a sure thing.
I thought that microscopy would have developed more out of a desire to explore. I can guess what might be out there on a microscopic scale, but until I actually go and take a look, it is only conjecture - no matter how accurate the conjecture might be.
Maybe I am misunderstanding Mr. Cammer's point on Ontogeny recapitulating phylogeny. Are you saying that _those_ folks used microscopy to "prove" it? Perhaps they "proved" it to themselves. Or are you saying you still accept the idea yourself? If so, my understanding is that the concept has been discredited for some time. I am not a great fan of Stephen Gould but I found the following comment in an Amazon review of his book, _Ontogeny and Phylogeny_.
"Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny" was Haeckel's answer--the wrong one--to the most vexing question of nineteenth-century biology: what is the relationship between individual development (ontogeny) and the evolution of species and lineages (phylogeny)? In this, the first major book on the subject in fifty years, Stephen Gould documents the history of the idea of recapitulation from its first appearance among the pre-Socratics to its fall in the early twentieth century. -Ernst Mayr.
FWIW, I consider microscopy an important tool for investigation. However, it must be used carefully as many of our observations are quite few. We need to pay attention to the statistics if we are going to generalize.
Warren Straszheim Iowa State University
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Microscopists, Please please forgive me for leaving out the word "only" in my original post. I meant to write ..."it is worth remembering that microscopy can be used for demonstration not ONLY investigation.
I was simply trying to point out that it is reasonable to demand one kind of thing when we are investigating but also have room for another purpose, namely the demonstration, for which demands are different. In no way shape or form was I meaning to suggest that microscopy cannot be used to investigate. Indeed, that suggestion is ludicrous.
I did send an apology after my post and it seems once is not enough. So once more, I am sorry to have wasted time and bandwith with my failure to proofread.
As ever, Tobias
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I agree that EM or LM can and are used for investigation. They are also used for discovery. In the context of IC reverse engineering and technology evaluation, discovery and investigation are biggies. For failure analysis, I suspect that investigation fits the bill better than does discovery--unless investigation leads to the discovery of the failure mechanism.
IMO, I suspect that the early scientists and researchers had a clue that microbes existed but did not know what they looked like. Along comes the microscope. Now they could get a good idea of what they looked like and confirm that they existed. Is this investigation, discovery or both?
gary g.
At 10:23 AM 5/8/2006, you wrote:
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You're too clever by half. I assume that "philogeny" was not a misspelling.
Now, where did I hear that ontology recapitulates phylogeny?
Joel
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] Billing for core services.
Question: As director of a microscopy core, I am also responsible for sending bills/invoices for services provided by core. We have external as well as internal users. We provide TEM, SEM, LM, morphometric analysis, paraffin embedding and methacrylate embedding and sectioning, immuno and enzyme histochemistry. And we have a mix of clinical and basic research to accomodate. My problem is trying to keep the user and techniques together for billing purposes since any particular technique may take several days and different technician's support. Does anyone have a "system" that will help me keep track of everything that is happening around me! Many thanks, Steve Doty, PhD.
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] Zr70Ni10Pd20 metalic glasses - how can they be acid dissolved
Question: Dear colleagues,
Is there anybody who could give me a hint concerning the acid or acid mixture that would be effective in surface etching a piece of ternary metallic glass having the composition Zr70Ni10Pd20 ? I need to reveal the dimensions of grains which are most probably formed in the material after a short aannealing during which an icosahedral quasicrystalline phase was formed (it was revealed by X-ray diffraction). Any suggestion will be very welcome.
Thank you in advance.
Dr. Corneliu Sarbu National Institute for Materials Physics Magurele-Bucharest Romania
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Although we are an academic lab in materials, our problems with billing are very similar. The data, of course, has to feed into the corporate financial management system (SAP, in our case).
After a long period of wondering what to do, and a false start with an almost institute-wide system that promised to be totally comprehensive but was in fact far too ambitious for our resources, we are currently developing an in-house system which will enable us to track usage by instrument, user, date, project, etc. etc., as well, of course, as providing the data for our billing.
It has a MySQL heart, with Visual Basic and Filemaker Pro front-ends (for historical reasons). The data collection part of the system is up and running, and in use for most of our systems. All the instruments should be using it by the end of next month. Then we have to develop the interface to the billing system, and the analysis tools (currently we extract the data from the database by manual SQL calls and generate a text file).
Tony
At 08:40 PM 5/8/2006, you wrote: Email: dotys-at-hss.edu Name: Steve Doty
Organization: Hospital for Special Surgery
Title-Subject: [Filtered] Billing for core services.
Question: As director of a microscopy core, I am also responsible for sending bills/invoices for services provided by core. We have external as well as internal users. We provide TEM, SEM, LM, morphometric analysis, paraffin embedding and methacrylate embedding and sectioning, immuno and enzyme histochemistry. And we have a mix of clinical and basic research to accomodate. My problem is trying to keep the user and techniques together for billing purposes since any particular technique may take several days and different technician's support. Does anyone have a "system" that will help me keep track of everything that is happening around me! Many thanks, Steve Doty, PhD.
*********************************************** Anthony J. Garratt-Reed, M.A., D.Phil. MIT Room 13-1027 77 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA 02139-4307 USA
Good day, Corneliu, Considering Ti as chemically similar to Zr, I found some etchant solutions for Ti alloys in Metals Handbook from ASM. That these might work for Zr alloys is supported by comments in Cotton and Wilkinson, Adv. Inorg. Chem. Anyway, here are a couple that ASM suggests as general purpose etchants:
10 ml HF, 5 ml HNO3, 85ml water 1-3 ml HF, 2-6 ml HNO3, water to 1000 ml
You can also try contacting ATI Wah Chang in Oregon, USA. They've been producing Zr alloys for decades and have plenty of expertise in that area. phone: 1-541-926-4211 www.wahchang.com
Good luck, and BE CAREFUL if you use HF.
Rob Bowen
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Hi, Might any of you know if polyurethane (Festo blue PU) tubing is compatible with P-10 gas. I currently have blue PU 3/16" tubing plumbed from the P-10 tank regulator to the first gfpc WDS on my uProbe. Is anyone 100% sure that this type of tubing should not be used to delivered P-10 gas to gas floow proportional counter detectors?
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CSIRO Plant Industry Black Mountain, Canberra Australia
Reference: 2006/411
We require an experienced microscopist with demonstrated knowledge of plant structure and developmental biology to assist in the Microscopy Centre in the Division of Plant Industry. Ideally, the appointee would have skills in preparation of plant material for light and electron microscopy, especially in cryo-scanning electron microscopy and x-ray microanalysis. The Microscopy Centre currently has light, fluorescence and confocal microscopes, a cryo-SEM with EDX, image analysis software and other ancilliary equipment.
The successful applicant will assist the Manager in training other staff in use of the instruments and in microscopy techniques, and in carrying out microscopy work for specific research projects. He/she will have at least a Bachelor's degree or equivalent training in plant structure and functional plant anatomy and experience in working in a research laboratory. Additional skills required are the ability to collaborate effectively with scientists and members of a research team and strong communication and computer skills.
This position is indefinite after a probationary period, salary $44K - $57K p.a plus Superannuation . To obtain selection documentation or details on how to apply visit http://recruitment.csiro.au/asp/job_details.asp?RefNo=2006%2F411. For further information contact Dr Rosemary White - rosemary.white-at-csiro.au . Responses to the selection criteria accompanied by a CV, must be received by close of business 4 June 2006.
Unfortunately, the powers-that-be have decided it's open to Australian residents only, largely so they don't have to fly people in for interviews. However, if you're interested, or know anyone who might be, contact me anyway.
cheers, Rosemary
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We are considering buying EDX system integrated with EBSD for elemental and "structural" analysis of inorganic materials in SEM. I hope therefore that vendors of such equipment will contact me off the list. However, I would be grateful also for any comments from listers on the possibilities of EBSD as the method of structure identification of individual nanocrystals in composite materials.
Thank you,
Leszek
Leszek Kepinski Institute of Low Temperature and Structure Research, Polish Academy of Sciences, P.O.Box 1410, 50-950 Wroclaw, Poland e-mail: L.Kepinski-at-int.pan.wroc.pl
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Hello, I'm using an older Pelco CPD 2 critical point drier. Anyone use this? It has these gnurled steel knobs for opening/closing the valves. Controlling the valves kills your fingers since the rough metal is hard on your skin. Anyone modified it with plastic knobs or rubber covers or something to make it less of a literal pain to do a critical point drying run?
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Gordon Ante Vrdoljak Electron Microscope Lab AOL/IM rakhasha http://nature.berkeley.edu/~gvrdolja 26 Giannini Hall gvrdolja-at-nature.berkeley.edu UC Berkeley phone (510) 642-2085 Berkeley CA 94720-3330 fax (510) 643-6207 cell (510) 290-6793
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When we had one of those we used pliers to turn the knobs.
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Sending to list--direct msgs bounce. If you have a better address, please advise and I will send any other material off-list.
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What SEM do you plan on using? What type of gun does it use?
What feature sizes are you interested in resolving? Ta and Cu seed layers are not possible to resolve even at .01u step size. I think that this is because no discernable grains have formed as yet. The electrodep Cu for damascene interconnects works well.
I've done single crystal Sapphire, Silicon and micro crystal Si. What would your nano crystals be made of? If the material is non-conductive, this may pose a charging issue. Since EBSD penetrates only about 50nm, this does not leave much depth for coating. The preferred coating is C. However, I rarely coat any insulating material even at 20KV.
There are basically two EBSD choices. TSL/EDAX or HKL/PGT. TSL and EDAX have been integrated for much longer than HKL and PGT (I think HKL connected just this year). TSL's camera/phosphor is round while HKL's camera end is square. This allows the HKL camera screen to get closer to the specimen. But I think that the TSL software complement is much better. AFAIK, only TSL has drift correction during data collection. At high mag and small step size, this is critical. However TSL's drift correction is not always repeatable and its own set of problems. But at least it is there and does usually work.
The SEM is going to be at issue too since higher frames per second need more probe current. However, this is at the expense of probe diameter and lattice resolution.
I'm using EDAX/TSL Pegasus with EDAX Genesis EDS and like it. The SEM is a Zeiss Supra 55VP, which has its own set of issues.
gary g.
At 03:34 AM 5/10/2006, you wrote:
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Hi Gordon - we have that same unit and have well developed calluses! Two simple tricks to keep your skin more or less intact: - I never adjust the coarse vent valve. Permanently leave it halfway open and control venting with the needle valve. - When going through the fill-drain cycles - open the fill valve one-half turn or so and leave it there until you're finished. Then you just open the drain valve to let fluid out, and close it to let fluid in. This cuts the number of knob-turning operations down by half. On our unit, the fill valve is the hardest to operate so this trick is very helpful.
I'd avoid pliers unless you absolutely can't get the knobs to turn. Pliers can strip the knurled texture and just make things harder in the future. And too much force can damage the valves. I do have one user that uses vise-grip pliers on the fill valve, but she is under stern warnings to pad the knob with cloth and not use force to close the valve.
Rick
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All this talk of forcing needle valves and pliers, etc. on CPD systems is scaring me. There used to be a homemade CPD in the Berkeley Microlab which sounds very similar to the unit currently being discussed. It was retired in favor of a Tousimis unit chiefly because of safety concerns. The pressures and explosive-release volumes on these systems are sufficient to cause serious injury in the event of a failed valve or fitting. Trust me - It's Not Worth It. If you find you are using hand tools to adjust needle valves on these systems, you DO have a safety problem.
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Right, it is HKL+Oxford now. Thanks for the correction.
TSL uses a Digiview 1612 Firewire camera that does a good job.
Depending on the grain size you are examining, probe diameter will be critical. Too large and small grains will be missed. Probe current increases frames per second--which is good.
TSL will do multi-phase EBSD. Their expansion of this is their Delphi option. I do not have this. I figure it is more for those trying to discover new things than sorting out what is basically known but not quantified. The plain OIM system comes with the TSL database and accepts the AMCS database....a very huge set of materials indeed.
EDAX EDS has drift correction (maps). This is the same basic shell used by TSL. Without correction, long scans at high mag are IMO useless and impossible. These are easy to spot since the resulting scans are wavy rather than consistent. Coating with C pretty much eliminates that element from analysis and also reduces signal by about 20-30%. High Z coating is not in the cards--too much absorption to produce diffraction patterns. VP is workable. Since one is not doing EDS maps, drift correction during EBSD collection is the key. EDAX/TSL also offers off-line dataset analysis for EBSD like they do for EDS. I'm not sure if HKL has the same option. I would ask about this when shopping.
gary g.
At 10:11 AM 5/11/2006, you wrote: } Gary, } } We're also considering a new EBSD system for an old LaB6 JEOL 840 that } delivers lots of beam current. It's to replace an old TSL system with a } deteriorated SIT camera. We're interested in the phase ID capabilities as } well as grain orientation analysis. } } Your comments on drift correction are especially interesting. I don't know } that a PGT/HKL connection exists any more. (Is PGT still in business?) HKL } is now part of Oxford, and they have at least partially integrated the EBSD } operation with Oxford's EDS software (INCA). INCA does has drift } correction, but I don't believe the combined system does yet. } } Larry } } } Larry Thomas } Pacific Northwest National Laboratory } Richland, WA 99352 } } email: Larry.Thomas-at-pnl.gov } phone: 509 372-0793 } -- } } } } } On 5/11/06 9:23 AM, "gary-at-gaugler.com" {gary-at-gaugler.com} wrote: } } } } } } } } } } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } The Microscopy ListServer -- CoSponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver } } On-Line Help http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } } } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } } } Sending to list--direct msgs bounce. If you } } have a better address, please advise and I will } } send any other material off-list. } } } } ------- } } } } What SEM do you plan on using? What type of } } gun does it use? } } } } What feature sizes are you interested in resolving? } } Ta and Cu seed layers are not possible to resolve } } even at .01u step size. I think that this is because } } no discernable grains have formed as yet. The electrodep Cu for } } damascene interconnects works well. } } } } I've done single crystal Sapphire, Silicon and micro } } crystal Si. What would your nano crystals be made of? } } If the material is non-conductive, this may pose a } } charging issue. Since EBSD penetrates only about 50nm, } } this does not leave much depth for coating. The } } preferred coating is C. However, I rarely coat any } } insulating material even at 20KV. } } } } There are basically two EBSD choices. TSL/EDAX or } } HKL/PGT. TSL and EDAX have been integrated for much } } longer than HKL and PGT (I think HKL connected just this } } year). TSL's camera/phosphor is round while HKL's camera end } } is square. This allows the HKL camera screen to get } } closer to the specimen. But I think that the TSL } } software complement is much better. AFAIK, only TSL } } has drift correction during data collection. At high } } mag and small step size, this is critical. However TSL's } } drift correction is not always repeatable and its own } } set of problems. But at least it is there and does } } usually work. } } } } The SEM is going to be at issue too since higher frames } } per second need more probe current. However, this is } } at the expense of probe diameter and lattice resolution. } } } } I'm using EDAX/TSL Pegasus with EDAX Genesis EDS and like it. } } The SEM is a Zeiss Supra 55VP, which has its own set } } of issues. } } } } gary g. } } } } } } At 03:34 AM 5/10/2006, you wrote: } } } } } } } } } } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } } The Microscopy ListServer -- CoSponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } } } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- } http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver } } } On-Line Help http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } } } } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } } } } } Hi, } } } } } } We are considering buying EDX system integrated with EBSD for } } } elemental and "structural" analysis of inorganic materials in SEM. 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The first question I would ask: WHY are the knobs hard to turn?
Generally it's a couple reasons.
#1 If the threads are lubricated and the grease/oil and enough of the VOCs (even if they aren't very volatile) dissipate the lubricant can turn to glue. -Solution: Disassemble, clean (with WD-40, CRC or other solvating lubricants), and re-apply some lightweight grease (lithium or wheel bearing would be fine), or a touch of heavy oil.
#2 If the threads/valve are damaged, you probably should replace the valve.
These all are extremely simple devices. And as such parts are relatively easy to repair/replace or fix. Assuming you have the patience to source the proper valves. The pressures the CPDs the microscopy community utilizes are relatively insignificant to some of the devices folks in Physics and engineering play with daily, not to mention, McMaster-Carr has a great selection of valves and what not that are rated well above the typical 1500-3000 psi burst limit (safety) on the CPDs.
If the valve was always hard to turn that's one thing, if it is now, make it easy to turn.
Try even spraying the threads with some WD-40 or liquid Wrench and run a cycle or two and see if that helps anything.
I am a big fan of the Polaron type CPD. I've never been let down by one, and it is the best model for 'teaching' the principles... no black boxes and although manual, no sane minded individual should start a CPD run and let it go un-attended... so why not be manual? My apologies to those who sell automatic ones, this is just my opinion.
Geoff Williams Leduc Bioimaging Facility Manager Brown University
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 7:10 PM To: Williams, Geoffrey
Hello, I'm using an older Pelco CPD 2 critical point drier. Anyone use this? It has these gnurled steel knobs for opening/closing the valves. Controlling the valves kills your fingers since the rough metal is hard on your skin. Anyone modified it with plastic knobs or rubber covers or something to make it less of a literal pain to do a critical point drying run?
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I am writing to get information on web-pages which have compiled links to bio-imaging and microscopy facilities both within the US and internationally.
I have searched and located a few such web-sites, but they are not very comprehensive and many of the links are dead.
If anyone in the community may have web-addresses or information on sites of this nature, I would appreciate their input.
Thank you,
David Lowry School of Life Sciences Arizona State University Tempe, AZ 85287-4501 office: 480-727-0725 lab: 480-965-2463
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Title: question on photomicrophotography
Question: I have being trying to find out what photomicrophotography is about. I came across this term in a paper regarding confirmation of PMO getting into the cells. Can you give me a brief exlanation of what is this technique? Thanks
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] Freon113 in Dehydration and Critical Point Drying
Question: I have a question on the role of Froen 113 in the common route of: wet specimen---70% to 100% Ethanol----Freon113--Liduid CO2
CO2 is the common transitional fluid. Ethanol is the dehydration fluid. I know that in some cases people go from Ethanol to CO2 directely. But, Since the above route is also mentioned, I wonder what advantage Froen113 brings to the preparation process.
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Colleagues,
I am writing to get information on web-pages which have compiled links to bio-imaging and microscopy facilities both within the US and internationally.
I have searched and located a few such web-sites, but they are not very comprehensive and many of the links are dead.
If anyone in the community may have web-addresses or information on sites of this nature, I would appreciate their input.
Thank you,
David Lowry School of Life Sciences Arizona State University Tempe, AZ 85287-4501 office: 480-727-0725 lab: 480-965-2463
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We're trying to investigate bacteria biofilms on a latex material (like surgical gloves) with TEM. We couldn't cut the latex material with our regular glass knives. Is there any suggestion about this problem?
Thanks for any comment...
Dr. Necat Yilmaz Mersin University Medical School Histology & Embryolgy Dept.
We are looking for a lab to do some contract work, embedding, sectioning and H&E staining of zebrafish using JB4/GMA plastics. We will provide fixed specimens. Ultimately we would like serial sections but for now we just want to see what sort of results we can expect. Please contact me directly. Nothe that I will be out of the office next week (15th-19th) so my response may be delayed. Thanks.
Geoff
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At the risk of putting my foot in my oversized mouth - - - You need a cryo-microtome and work around -40. This gets you below the glass transistion temperature for most elastomers and the latex will no longer behave like an elastic material, but a hard brittle glass. You may need to fiddle with temperature and pick-up technique. I've sectioned polymer and and used both glycerin/water, mineral spirits/xylene and DMSO/water depending on the temperature and my end goal (Light, SEM or TEM). A diamond knife and boat would be my prefered method. I like to pick up with a "perfect loop" and place on carbon coated grid.
good luck and have fun........
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] Cutting latex for TEM
Question: Hello Everybody...
We're trying to investigate bacteria biofilms on a latex material (like surgical gloves) with TEM. We couldn't cut the latex material with our regular glass knives. Is there any suggestion about this problem?
Thanks for any comment...
Dr. Necat Yilmaz Mersin University Medical School Histology & Embryolgy Dept.
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] Locust brain
Question: Hello ListServers,
Does anyone have a good reference or two for images of the locust brain? It would be great if I could find both LM and TEM images.
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] polymer microtomy
Question: I am forwarding two different questions regarding the microtomy of polymers from associates, and if additional information would be useful, please let me know and I will find out what else I can.
1) polymer embedded ZnO nano-rods. I do not know what type of polymer this specimen contains, which is probably critical to any advice that might be offered. I suspect that we will need to use a cryo-microtome and simply experiment to determine the best temperature to use. Any and all suggestions would be most welcome. Also, does anyone have experience with ZnO nano-rods, especially with regard to whether this material is capable of damaging a diamond knife?
2) poly-styrene beads. Another colleague is potentially interested in sectioning ~6 micron beads. Suggestions about the best way to handle such a sample would be welcome - the proper embedding material, sectioning temperature, etc.
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Title-Subject: TEM Contractor
We are currently seeking an independent TEM analyst, academic/non-profit TEM facility or, commercial TEM lab for contracting ongoing advanced TEM imaging and AEM projects, involving semiconductor materials and devices.
If interested and qualified, please contact me off-line via email.
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] Masson-Fontana staining for melanin
Question: I am wondering if anybody can help me out on a poser that I have.
Melanin is able to reduce the ammoniacal silver nitrate solution without the addition of an external reducing agent. However, as I understand it, melanin exists in 2 forms, both in oxidized form and reduced form. So, is the reduced form only responsible for reducing the silver nitrate? If so, can the addition of a reducing agent result in both forms reducing the silver nitrate and show a better staining profile? Can this method be used to semi-quantify both the reduced and oxidized forms?
I have a project where I need to positively identify human cells that may have mouse cells mixed with them in a tumor. Does anyone have a suggestion for a protocol that will positively identify a cell as mouse or as human. Antibodies that I have tried so far have not worked, post-embedding.
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Ah... I'm disappointed. I thought we were going to have a nice discussion about the transition from human adjustments (knobs) to using the mouse (bar sliders)....
I was already to pull out the link to http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate/ ... suggesting that maybe it is the answer we old school knob aficionados have been waiting for.
Alas I have no suggestions relating to the topic. So please accept or excuse this mild attempt at being funny on a Monday morning.
Geoff Williams Leduc Bioimaging Facility Manager Brown University
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I have a project where I need to positively identify human cells that may have mouse cells mixed with them in a tumor. Does anyone have a suggestion for a protocol that will positively identify a cell as mouse or as human. Antibodies that I have tried so far have not worked, post-embedding.
Thanks, Greg -- Gregory W. Erdos, Ph.D. Assistant Director, Biotechnology Program Scientific Director, EM Core Lab P.O. Box 118525 University of Florida Gainesville, FL 32611 gwe-at-ufl.edu Phone: 352-392-1295 Fax: 352-846-0251
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==============================Original Headers============================== 12, 29 -- From Geoffrey_Williams-at-brown.edu Mon May 15 08:29:50 2006 12, 29 -- Received: from pyxis.services.brown.edu (pyxis.services.brown.edu [128.148.106.154]) 12, 29 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k4FDToxx028190 12, 29 -- for {Microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Mon, 15 May 2006 08:29:50 -0500 12, 29 -- Received: from ex-gateway1-out.AD.Brown.Edu (ex-gateway1.ad.brown.edu [128.148.21.51]) 12, 29 -- by pyxis.services.brown.edu (Switch-3.1.8/Switch-3.1.7/) with ESMTP id k4FDTdO1011626; 12, 29 -- Mon, 15 May 2006 09:29:49 -0400 (EDT) 12, 29 -- Received: from mail1.AD.Brown.Edu ([128.148.21.31]) by ex-gateway1-out.AD.Brown.Edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); 12, 29 -- Mon, 15 May 2006 09:29:47 -0400 12, 29 -- X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 12, 29 -- Content-class: urn:content-classes:message 12, 29 -- MIME-Version: 1.0 12, 29 -- Content-Type: text/plain; 12, 29 -- charset="US-ASCII" 12, 29 -- Subject: RE: [Microscopy] Mouse -vs-Human 12, 29 -- Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 09:29:47 -0400 12, 29 -- Message-ID: {A1A84D541C161C4C988B4E0FB38F5A0F044FFC0C-at-MAIL1.AD.Brown.Edu} 12, 29 -- X-MS-Has-Attach: 12, 29 -- X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 12, 29 -- Thread-Topic: [Microscopy] Mouse -vs-Human 12, 29 -- Thread-Index: AcZ4IoOHi5Mh71SqR4y2kC4rjGtdoAAALxag 12, 29 -- From: "Williams, Geoffrey" {Geoffrey_Williams-at-brown.edu} 12, 29 -- To: {gwe-at-ufl.edu} , {Microscopy-at-microscopy.com} 12, 29 -- X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2006 13:29:47.0713 (UTC) FILETIME=[A2CC6310:01C67823] 12, 29 -- X-Brown-Proofpoint: Not Infected 12, 29 -- X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlx=-1 adultscore=0 adjust=0 reason=safe engine=3.1.0-06042601 definitions=3.0.0-06051209 12, 29 -- X-Brown-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlx=-1 adultscore=0 adjust=0 reason=safe engine=3.1.0-06042601 definitions=3.0.0-06051209 12, 29 -- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 12, 29 -- X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ns.microscopy.com id k4FDToxx028190 ==============================End of - Headers==============================
Does anyone where to find one of the spatial calibration slides that used to be sold by a company called Richardson Technologies? The company appears to be gone but I'm trying to get hold of one the slides.
Thank you!
--David Hitrys QImaging Corporation
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In response to a recent question on the ListServer which, in part, asked about the status of PGT Microanalysis, I would like to reply:
On Nov 17, 2005 Bruker AXS announced the acquisition of Princeton Gamma-Tech Microanalysis and Röntec AG. These two organizations were merged to form Bruker AXS Microanalysis. Bruker AXS develops and manufactures a broad range of analytical X-ray systems including XRF, XRD and now, X-ray Microanalysis.
Customer service and support for both PGT Microanalysis and Röntec have been expanded as part of the Bruker AXS worldwide operation. PGT and Röntec customers should contact Bruker AXS for continued product and applications support.
Bruker AXS Microanalysis is a proud Sustaining Member of MSA and MAS, carrying on the long time support given by PGT Microanalysis and Röntec to these fine professional organizations.
Doug Skinner Assistant Vice President Bruker-AXS Microanalysis 609-771-4400 Doug.Skinner-at-Bruker-AXS.com www.bruker-axs-ma.com
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Does anybody have any experience with this digital microscope camera? I don't see on the webpage I found that the chip is cooled. How opinions about the image quality? Reliability? The price is attractive. Thanks.
Phil -- Philip Oshel Microscopy Facility Supervisor Department of Biology Central Michigan University 024C Brooks Hall Mt. Pleasant, MI 48859 (989) 774-3576
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Email: lewryan-at-gmail.com Name: Ryan
Organization: Dalhousie University
Title-Subject: [Filtered] SEM imaging on sample with magnetic substrate
Question: I have a saple with deposits of an alloy of Sn-Co-C on a magnetic stainless steel substrate (430 stainless steel). I'm using a cold field emission microscope and am having trouble getting high resolution images. Could you suggest what setting I should use to get started?
(honest, that's the page URL, I got it from Googling polaroid dmc2)
is says that it's no longer manufactured.
seems a pity
cheers
rtch
On 15 May 2006 at 16:16, oshel1pe-at-cmich.edu wrote:
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If your purpose is just to identify mouse cells in a human culture, you don't need EM. Actually it would be much easier in LM. Any way, you could think about using HLA marker, they are external (it's just an idea I have no experience with that).
regards,
Stephane
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We are considering Fovea Pro as a set of quantitation plug-ins for Photoshop. Can I ask those who use FP, and who also teach IA, to contact me off list? I'd like to get an idea of the user base, and accumulate any thoughts on re-establishing an FP forum.
Several years ago many (most?) of the EM supply vendors switched the formula for carbon tabs to a "stiff", non-flexible formula. I was told at that time that the old formula used typewriter tape as a component.
These new stiff tabs are unsuitable for many of the preps we do. I was able to find the old formula at Fullam and now they have switched too.
Does anyone know where to find truly flexible carbon tabs. The ones Fullam had were from Nisshin EM, very expensive but quite high quality.
Thanks in advance.
Owen Mills MTU, Houghton MI
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Have you looked at Ted Pella's assortment (Pelco)? Some answers to your questions may be found in his letter above. Best wishes,
Jim
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Several years ago many (most?) of the EM supply vendors switched the formula for carbon tabs to a "stiff", non-flexible formula. I was told at that time that the old formula used typewriter tape as a component.
These new stiff tabs are unsuitable for many of the preps we do. I was able to find the old formula at Fullam and now they have switched too.
Does anyone know where to find truly flexible carbon tabs. The ones Fullam had were from Nisshin EM, very expensive but quite high quality.
Thanks in advance.
Owen Mills MTU, Houghton MI
==============================Original Headers============================== 16, 23 -- From jchalcro-at-neuro.mpg.de Tue May 16 08:26:15 2006 16, 23 -- Received: from neuro.mpg.de (mail.neuro.mpg.de [130.183.250.1]) 16, 23 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k4GDQEre001944 16, 23 -- for {Microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Tue, 16 May 2006 08:26:15 -0500 16, 23 -- Content-class: urn:content-classes:message 16, 23 -- Return-Receipt-To: "James Chalcroft" {jchalcro-at-neuro.mpg.de} 16, 23 -- MIME-Version: 1.0 16, 23 -- Content-Type: text/plain; 16, 23 -- charset="US-ASCII" 16, 23 -- Disposition-Notification-To: "James Chalcroft" {jchalcro-at-neuro.mpg.de} 16, 23 -- Subject: RE: [Microscopy] dbl stick carbon tab blues 16, 23 -- X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 16, 23 -- Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 15:26:13 +0200 16, 23 -- Message-ID: {6BBC089D4E1E87459875FB80D8030031BE21D2-at-s6.neuro.mpg.de} 16, 23 -- X-MS-Has-Attach: 16, 23 -- X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 16, 23 -- Thread-Topic: [Microscopy] dbl stick carbon tab blues 16, 23 -- Thread-Index: AcZ46A6qIDfGYibgSqi1YHWKtSO+WwAA5z8g 16, 23 -- From: "James Chalcroft" {jchalcro-at-neuro.mpg.de} 16, 23 -- To: {opmills-at-mtu.edu} 16, 23 -- Cc: {Microscopy-at-microscopy.com} 16, 23 -- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 16, 23 -- X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ns.microscopy.com id k4GDQEre001944 ==============================End of - Headers==============================
-----Original Message----- X-from: opmills-at-mtu.edu [mailto:opmills-at-mtu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:50 PM To: j.bilde-at-risoe.dk
Several years ago many (most?) of the EM supply vendors switched the formula for carbon tabs to a "stiff", non-flexible formula. I was told at that time that the old formula used typewriter tape as a component.
These new stiff tabs are unsuitable for many of the preps we do. I was able to find the old formula at Fullam and now they have switched too.
Does anyone know where to find truly flexible carbon tabs. The ones Fullam had were from Nisshin EM, very expensive but quite high quality.
Thanks in advance.
Owen Mills MTU, Houghton MI
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I suppose that you have not only a cold FEG SEM, but a so called "semi-in-lens" type of OL on it too. In fact the cold or schottky type of FEG doesn't play a role in the problem. It's only a OL question. That type of OL has a strong magnetic field coming out of it, which enveloppe the sample at short working distance, alouding to work virtuusely at WD0 and to get nice high res images of ..... non magnetic materials, with the "trough the lens" SE detector. The field coming out of the OL can be very strong ; I have measured values such as 3kG at WD2 and 10keV primary energie. With lower beam energy the field decreases and at 3keV, I measured a value of 1.2kG at WD3 mm, and 0.3kG at WD8 mm.
Pratically, you have a few solutions, but all are half solutions.
First, you must avoid to work with short WD. Look at the shortes WD possible without too much astigmatisme. Ask the SEM manufacturer at which WD the sample is quite out of the field. If your shortest WD is 2mm or so, it will bee something like 6-8mm.
Second, you must find a primary energie not to low, which would give a poor resolution, due to the perturbation of the primary beam by the field lignes in the sample, and not too high, to minimase the filed coming out of the OL, wich increases with increasing primary energy. In most cases, you 'll find a good compromise between 5 and 10 keV.
Third, you must play very very much with the astigmatism corrections, at replay again if you move your sample a little bit. And depending of the electronic, you may touch the range limits of the astigmatism corrections. In that case, if you have a CL astigmatism correction setting, you can play on it a little bit, puting astigmatisme at the Cl, in the opposit direction, to gain some margin of the OL astigmatism settings. It's not a clean way to work, but in may help.
Fourth, take the smalest sample possible, not too thick, not too wide, and fix it very securly on the holder. It may land from it and stick to the OL !
Fifth solutions : buy an other SEM for that kind of samples !!!
Don't wait as well resolved images than with ..... gold particles on silicon. If you have a nice picture at x50000, you can be satisfied ! More depends on your particular situation, sample and SEM.
Hope it helps
J. Faerber IPCMS-GSI (Institut de Physique et Chimie des Matériaux de Strasbourg Groupe Surface et Interfaces) 23, rue de Loess ; BP43 67034 Strasbourg CEDEX 2 France
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I have a faculty member at UIC who is looking for a one off image of a purified protein. She has seen this done by rotary shadowing and while we have the instrumentation at the university we do not have the necessary experience. As it is a one off experiment (she needs an image showing to confirm if there is bend in the middle of a mutant) I was wondering if there was a lab out there that regularly uses rotary shadowing who could help us?
Alan
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We have used the AFM to image DNA conformation and think that it might also work for your protein, without all the elaborate preparation.
If you are interested in having us give it a try, contact Dr. Kim Kangasniemi (just call him "Kim") at (972)954-8014 or kim-at-nt-america.com
Hope this was helpful,
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Ted Pella has good ones as does EMS. No experience with SPI tabs.
gary g.
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We have been doing our pre-embedding immunogold localizations incubations for animal tissue in PBS, 0.2% BSA and 10mM Na Azide.
I am working now on some em pre-embedding localizations on plant tissue, for which light microscopy localizations have been done using MTSB buffer (50mM PIPES, 5mM MgSO4, 5mM EGTA, pH~7.0). Is there any reason for which I should not be using this same MTSB buffer for the em work?
Thank you very much for your suggestions. They will definitely save me trial time.
Thanks.
Tea
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Hi, In dealing with plant tissue, EGTA is included in buffers because calcium chelation removes calcium cross bridges and probably some pectin from the cell wall and allows antiboody access. Although protocols for doing this originally called for having EGTA in the fixation buffer, in our hands, we get better preservation if the EGTA is included after the fixation as a separate incubation. The removal of the calcium by the same token makes the cell wall weaker. You may find quite distorted tissue. It may be possible to minimize this distortion by including an incubation in mM CaCl2 after the 2nd antibody and before dehydration.
Note that buffers with pipes, magnesium, and EGTA are not microtubule stablizing (if that is what you mean by MTSB). They are the standard buffers for studying microtubule dynamics in vitro.
Hope this helps.
Tobias } } } We have been doing our pre-embedding immunogold localizations } incubations for animal tissue in PBS, 0.2% BSA and 10mM Na Azide. } } I am working now on some em pre-embedding localizations on plant } tissue, for which light microscopy localizations have been done using } MTSB buffer (50mM PIPES, 5mM MgSO4, 5mM EGTA, pH~7.0). Is there any } reason for which I should not be using this same MTSB buffer for the } em work? } } Thank you very much for your suggestions. They will definitely save } me trial time. } } Thanks. } } Tea } } } } -- } *************************************** } Tea Meulia, PhD } Director } Molecular and Cellular Imaging Center } Ohio State University/OARDC } 1680 Madison Ave. } Wooster OH 44691 } } tel.: 330-263-3836 or -3828 } fax: 330-202-3563 } } http://www.oardc.ohio-state.edu/mcic } } ***************************************** } } ==============================Original Headers============================== } 11, 18 -- From meulia.1-at-osu.edu Tue May 16 13:17:06 2006 } 11, 18 -- Received: from defang9.net.ohio-state.edu } (defang9.net.ohio-state.edu [128.146.216.78]) } 11, 18 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with } ESMTP id k4GIH5xS001081 } 11, 18 -- for {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Tue, 16 May 2006 } 13:17:05 -0500 } 11, 18 -- Received: from [164.107.85.164] } (dhcp-107-85-164.oardc.ohio-state.edu [164.107.85.164]) } 11, 18 -- by defang9.net.ohio-state.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with } ESMTP id k4GIH5AC031731 } 11, 18 -- for {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Tue, 16 May 2006 } 14:17:05 -0400 } 11, 18 -- Mime-Version: 1.0 } 11, 18 -- X-Sender: meulia.1-at-pop.service.ohio-state.edu } 11, 18 -- Message-Id: {p05200f03c08fc56f761a-at-[164.107.85.164]} } 11, 18 -- Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 14:17:12 -0400 } 11, 18 -- To: Microscopy Listserver {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} } 11, 18 -- From: Tea Meulia {meulia.1-at-osu.edu} } 11, 18 -- Subject: em immunolocalizations } 11, 18 -- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" } 11, 18 -- X-Spam-Score: undef - spam scanning disabled } 11, 18 -- X-CanItPRO-Stream: outbound } 11, 18 -- X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.146.216.12 } ==============================End of - Headers==============================
I would suggest setting the specimen at a working distance of at least 15mm so as to be outside the field of the lens. What may also help is to lower the kV as this will also lower the lens field. Of course the kV level will depend upon what you are asking of the specimen?
If you wish to examine the TRUE surface {5kV will be ideal. If you wish to investigate the sub surface detail 15kV backscatter would probably be a good starting point.
Do not try to use an upper detector if fitted tot he instrument as this will require you being close to the lens. Lower detectors in a twin detector system require a higher probe current (weaker C1) than that used for an upper detector.
Good luck
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I need to look at some RBC's using SEM. anyone have a favorite protocol for preparing them? Thanks, Tom
Thomas E. Phillips, PhD Professor of Biological Sciences Director, Molecular Cytology Core 2 Tucker Hall University of Missouri Columbia, MO 65211-7400
We've used poly-l-lysine cover slips and standard fixation/dehydration procedures with good success. I believe some people have used HMDS successfully, too.
Randy
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I need to look at some RBC's using SEM. anyone have a favorite protocol for preparing them? Thanks, Tom
Thomas E. Phillips, PhD Professor of Biological Sciences Director, Molecular Cytology Core 2 Tucker Hall University of Missouri Columbia, MO 65211-7400
Someone wants to send me isolated, fixed rhinovirus on a grid for negative staining and imaging. I have not worked with rhinovirus before. Does anyone have a favorite protocol for fixation and staining? Glut or PFA? Uranyl acetate or PTA?
Mahalo! Tina
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Sorry to bring this topic up again. I know it has been discussed:
What are the additives that can go in a water recirculator for a TEM? I use to use a product called cool-prep and someone said ethylene glycol in the same ratio. Any thoughts on that?
thanks, Beth
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I've got a user who wants to characterize 60-atom Carbon Buckyballs. Now He wants to start by determining if they clump, form larger groupsing etc. when mixed into ultra pure water (Q- water), and then other quality waters. So, any one out there have any idea on how to determine simple sizing? In a hydrated state? In suspension? At potentially nanoscale? Obviously, going EM requires drying them down - which artifically modifys the samples. Cryo- might work but we don't have the capability here. SPM might work but how to adhere to a surface for imaging? Diffraction of some sort?
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance!
Richard E. Edelmann, Ph.D. Associate Editor of EXPO, Microscopy and Microanalysis Supplement Electron Microscopy Facility Director 364 Pearson Hall Miami University, Oxford, OH 45056 Ph: 513.529.5712 Fax: 513.529.4243 E-mail: edelmare-at-muohio.edu http://www.emf.muohio.edu
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Nestor, Finally a question I can answer for someone! RBC = Red Blood Cell (~7 microns or so in size)
Not to be confused with TLA (three letter acronym) or DAP (Parents against Dyslexia) ;o)
Paul
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I use deionized water only (no additives) and have had no problems over the past twenty years. An important note is that we prevent the growth of algae by plumbing all our chillers and microscopes with opaque water hose. We never have algae, or any other, growth in our chillers.
Regards,
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Sorry to bring this topic up again. I know it has been discussed:
What are the additives that can go in a water recirculator for a TEM? I use to use a product called cool-prep and someone said ethylene glycol in the same ratio. Any thoughts on that?
thanks, Beth
********************************************************************** Beth Richardson EM Lab Coordinator Plant Biology Department University of Georgia Athens, GA 30602-7271
"Between the two evils, I always pick the one I never tried before". Mae West (1893-1980) *******************************************************************
"And it's only the giving that makes you what you are". Wond'ring Aloud, Jethro Tull (Aqualung)
I would suggest small-angle x-ray scattering (SAXS). Can be done hydrated.
See, for example:
http://www.uni.aps.anl.gov/usaxs/
Jeffrey A. Fortner, Ph.D. Chemical Engineering Division Argonne National Laboratory Argonne, IL 60439 fortner(at)cmt.anl.gov
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O.k., folks here's an odd problem:
I've got a user who wants to characterize 60-atom Carbon Buckyballs. Now He wants to start by determining if they clump, form larger groupsing etc. when mixed into ultra pure water (Q- water), and then other quality waters. So, any one out there have any idea on how to determine simple sizing? In a hydrated state? In suspension? At potentially nanoscale? Obviously, going EM requires drying them down - which artifically modifys the samples. Cryo- might work but we don't have the capability here. SPM might work but how to adhere to a surface for imaging? Diffraction of some sort?
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance!
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Nester,
RBC is the acronym for "red blood cells".
Cheers,
Gary M. Brown ExxonMobil Chemical Company Baytown Technology & Engineering - West 5200 Bayway Drive Baytown, Texas 77520-2101 phone: 281 834 2387 fax: 281 834 2395 e-mail: Gary.M.Brown-at-ExxonMobil.com
zaluzec-at-aaem.a mc.anl.gov To gary.m.brown-at-exxonmobil.com 05/16/06 03:31 cc PM Subject [Microscopy] Hmmm... what is RBC Please respond to zaluzec-at-aaem.a mc.anl.gov
Human red blood cells respond nicely to fairly routine fixatives. We use cacodylate with Ca, Mg, and NaCl added as buffer system but biological buffers such as PIPES should work also.
However, be aware the RBC's from other animals have different osmotic requirements and may crenellate easily when the H-RBCs are fine. We ran into real problems with mouse RBC's a while back. Only sure way to avoid problems is to check and balance osmolarity of fixatives for the specific host RBCs.
Debby
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} From: {TindallR-at-missouri.edu} } Reply-To: {TindallR-at-missouri.edu} } Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 14:11:02 -0500 } To: {dsherman-at-purdue.edu} } Subject: [Microscopy] RE: SEM of RBC's } } } } } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } The Microscopy ListServer -- CoSponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver } On-Line Help http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } Tom, } } We've used poly-l-lysine cover slips and standard fixation/dehydration } procedures with good success. I believe some people have used HMDS } successfully, too. } } Randy } } -----Original Message----- } X-from: phillipst-at-missouri.edu [mailto:phillipst-at-missouri.edu] } Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:55 PM } To: Tindall, Randy D. } Subject: [Microscopy] SEM of RBC's } } } } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ } ---- } The Microscopy ListServer -- CoSponsor: The Microscopy Society of } America To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- } http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver } On-Line Help http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ } ---- } } I need to look at some RBC's using SEM. anyone have a favorite protocol } for preparing them? Thanks, Tom } } } } Thomas E. Phillips, PhD } Professor of Biological Sciences } Director, Molecular Cytology Core } 2 Tucker Hall } University of Missouri } Columbia, MO 65211-7400 } } 573-882-4712 (office) } 573-882-0123 (fax) } PhillipsT-at-missouri.edu } } } } ==============================Original } Headers============================== } 7, 18 -- From PhillipsT-at-missouri.edu Tue May 16 13:54:11 2006 } 7, 18 -- Received: from um-exproto9.um.umsystem.edu } (um-exproto9.um.umsystem.edu [207.160.151.49]) } 7, 18 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with } ESMTP id k4GIsAWG019726 } 7, 18 -- for {Microscopy-at-msa.microscopy.com} ; Tue, 16 May 2006 } 13:54:10 -0500 } 7, 18 -- Received: from um-exproto9.um.umsystem.edu ([207.160.151.148]) } by um-exproto9.um.umsystem.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); } 7, 18 -- Tue, 16 May 2006 13:54:07 -0500 } 7, 18 -- Received: from phillips-dell.missouri.edu ([128.206.81.132]) by } um-exproto9.um.umsystem.edu over TLS secured channel with Microsoft } SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); } 7, 18 -- Tue, 16 May 2006 13:54:06 -0500 } 7, 18 -- Message-Id: } {6.0.0.22.2.20060516135251.01cc6e50-at-pop.missouri.edu} } 7, 18 -- X-Sender: phillipst-at-pop.missouri.edu } 7, 18 -- X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 } 7, 18 -- Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 13:54:06 -0500 } 7, 18 -- To: Microscopy-at-msa.microscopy.com } 7, 18 -- From: Tom Phillips {phillipst-at-missouri.edu} } 7, 18 -- Subject: SEM of RBC's } 7, 18 -- Mime-Version: 1.0 } 7, 18 -- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed } 7, 18 -- X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2006 18:54:06.0810 (UTC) } FILETIME=[1BBCB3A0:01C6791A] } ==============================End of - } Headers============================== } } } ==============================Original Headers============================== } 16, 24 -- From TindallR-at-missouri.edu Tue May 16 14:08:17 2006 } 16, 24 -- Received: from um-exproto9.um.umsystem.edu } (um-exproto9.um.umsystem.edu [207.160.151.49]) } 16, 24 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id } k4GJ8GxK008815 } 16, 24 -- for {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Tue, 16 May 2006 14:08:17 -0500 } 16, 24 -- Received: from UM-EMAIL09.um.umsystem.edu ([207.160.151.31]) by } um-exproto9.um.umsystem.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); } 16, 24 -- Tue, 16 May 2006 14:08:16 -0500 } 16, 24 -- X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 } 16, 24 -- Content-class: urn:content-classes:message } 16, 24 -- MIME-Version: 1.0 } 16, 24 -- Content-Type: text/plain; } 16, 24 -- charset="US-ASCII" } 16, 24 -- Subject: RE: [Microscopy] SEM of RBC's } 16, 24 -- Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 14:08:16 -0500 } 16, 24 -- Message-ID: } {BA876152E8653240BE8572E897083EE701849FC4-at-UM-EMAIL09.um.umsystem.edu} } 16, 24 -- X-MS-Has-Attach: } 16, 24 -- X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: } 16, 24 -- Thread-Topic: [Microscopy] SEM of RBC's } 16, 24 -- thread-index: AcZ5Gj/IXaM4jxnBT36YosCHI/gn+wAAa8yQ } 16, 24 -- From: "Tindall, Randy D." {TindallR-at-missouri.edu} } 16, 24 -- To: "Phillips, Thomas E." {PhillipsT-at-missouri.edu} } 16, 24 -- Cc: {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} } 16, 24 -- X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2006 19:08:16.0800 (UTC) } FILETIME=[165EE200:01C6791C] } 16, 24 -- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit } 16, 24 -- X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by } ns.microscopy.com id k4GJ8GxK008815 } ==============================End of - Headers==============================
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On May 16, 2006, at 1:22 PM, beth-at-plantbio.uga.edu wrote:
} Sorry to bring this topic up again. I know it has been discussed: } } What are the additives that can go in a water recirculator for a TEM? } I use to use a product called cool-prep and someone said ethylene } glycol in the same ratio. } Any thoughts on that? } Dear Beth, I don't know what is in cool-prep, but if ethylene glycol is a good substitute, it sounds like anti-freeze. The important things for a TEM water additive are to prevent corrosion and growth of bacteria and algae, but the cooling water is not so cold that anti-freeze is necessary. I have added a molybdenum-based corrosion inhibitor and the chemical 2,2'-Methylenebis(4-chloro-phenol), AKA dichlorophene, to inhibit growth with good effect. It is also important to keep the pH at ~8 to prevent Cu from dissolving. Yours, Bill Tivol, PhD EM Scientist and Manager Cryo-Electron Microscopy Facility Broad Center, Mail Code 114-96 California Institute of Technology Pasadena CA 91125 (626) 395-8833 tivol-at-caltech.edu
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Thanks, all, for the suggestions about negative staining of rhinovirus.
With one notorious exception, I have never had to fix virus before staining, but these people want to send me fixed rhinovirus on commercial non-glow-discharged grids (sigh). And it looks like I'll try my usual stable of stains; UrAc, PTA, and NH4M.
Mahalo, Tina
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On May 16, 2006, at 2:50 PM, Yang, Ann-Fook wrote:
} Please let us know how much you put in. Thank you. } Hi Ann-Fook, I aim for 100 ppm of the Mo, as determined by a test kit, K1805, from Taylor Technonogies, Inc. This is somewhat complicated due to not knowing how much water is in the Haskris and how much is in the tubing, lenses, etc., so I add a few hundred ml of the corrosion inhibitor, check it monthly, and add more when necessary. After a few months, you will get a pretty good idea of how much inhibitor it takes to increase the ppm Mo by a given amount. I just float a small amount of the dichlorophene on top of the water in the Haskris--it's not very soluble--and add more when little solid remains. Yours, Bill
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Just wanted to thank everyone for the responses to my posting about the TEM water chiller additives. I'll try just using distilled water and monitoring the system more frequently. Thank you! Beth
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Quite a while ago now I did some pre-embedding immunogold labelling, and fixed in phosphate rather than Pipes buffer, using 2 mM rather than 5 mM Mg and EGTA. I think use the fixative that works best for what you're after, I'd suggest using the same fixative/buffer combination as for the LM work, taking on board Tobias' comments about how EGTA softens the walls causing some tissue distortion if you're not careful.
When I did this, I then cut frozen sections, rinsed in PBS then labelled the sections on slides with antibodies in PBS, after the usual blocking in BSA or gelatin. Then embedded the sections in Spurr's (messy) before sectioning for TEM. I did this to get greater penetration of label into tissue, while avoiding the original cut surface of the tissue block.
good luck, cheers, Rosemary
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} From: meulia.1-at-osu.edu } Reply-To: meulia.1-at-osu.edu } Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 13:19:55 -0500 } To: rosemary.white-at-csiro.au } Subject: [Microscopy] em immunolocalizations } } } } } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } The Microscopy ListServer -- CoSponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver } On-Line Help http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } We have been doing our pre-embedding immunogold localizations } incubations for animal tissue in PBS, 0.2% BSA and 10mM Na Azide. } } I am working now on some em pre-embedding localizations on plant } tissue, for which light microscopy localizations have been done using } MTSB buffer (50mM PIPES, 5mM MgSO4, 5mM EGTA, pH~7.0). Is there any } reason for which I should not be using this same MTSB buffer for the } em work? } } Thank you very much for your suggestions. They will definitely save } me trial time. } } Thanks. } } Tea } } } } -- } *************************************** } Tea Meulia, PhD } Director } Molecular and Cellular Imaging Center } Ohio State University/OARDC } 1680 Madison Ave. } Wooster OH 44691 } } tel.: 330-263-3836 or -3828 } fax: 330-202-3563 } } http://www.oardc.ohio-state.edu/mcic } } ***************************************** } } ==============================Original Headers============================== } 11, 18 -- From meulia.1-at-osu.edu Tue May 16 13:17:06 2006 } 11, 18 -- Received: from defang9.net.ohio-state.edu } (defang9.net.ohio-state.edu [128.146.216.78]) } 11, 18 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id } k4GIH5xS001081 } 11, 18 -- for {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:17:05 -0500 } 11, 18 -- Received: from [164.107.85.164] } (dhcp-107-85-164.oardc.ohio-state.edu [164.107.85.164]) } 11, 18 -- by defang9.net.ohio-state.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id } k4GIH5AC031731 } 11, 18 -- for {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Tue, 16 May 2006 14:17:05 -0400 } 11, 18 -- Mime-Version: 1.0 } 11, 18 -- X-Sender: meulia.1-at-pop.service.ohio-state.edu } 11, 18 -- Message-Id: {p05200f03c08fc56f761a-at-[164.107.85.164]} } 11, 18 -- Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 14:17:12 -0400 } 11, 18 -- To: Microscopy Listserver {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} } 11, 18 -- From: Tea Meulia {meulia.1-at-osu.edu} } 11, 18 -- Subject: em immunolocalizations } 11, 18 -- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" } 11, 18 -- X-Spam-Score: undef - spam scanning disabled } 11, 18 -- X-CanItPRO-Stream: outbound } 11, 18 -- X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.146.216.12 } ==============================End of - Headers============================== }
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The buffer you indicated may be fine, although a word of warning may be in place: be careful when using divalent cations like Mg2+ . We've never actually tested this for gold conjugates but such ions cause aggregates of gold particles even at very low concentrations. The coating proteins should help preventing that but it may still happen. If that buffer, as Tobias Baskin indicates, is used to open cell walls to antibodies, then it may be sufficient if it is applied only to obtain that effect, i.e. fix, treat with the permeabilising buffer and then wash with PBS a few times before proceeding using the same protocol that was used for your animal tissue.
Good luck
Jan
On May 17, 2006, at 6:17 AM, meulia.1-at-osu.edu wrote:
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This should be another interesting AFM experiment, done with liquid cell. It would be helpful, however, to get them to adhere to a substrate first, so that they don't roll around. Contact me off-line and we can probably put together a protocol for you. Also, if you can get samples, we can try to run them here. We have an AFM that can run in liquid.
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Question: We are planning an elementary microscopy lab using a variety of natural and synthetic fibers. I would like to locat some photomicrographs of sample fibers so the kids could compare their observations to know appearance samples. I have been unable to find a good set of micrographs on the web.......are there any common references that might have some useable pictures.
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Question: please let me know, why multilamellar vesicle show maltese crosses when veiwed with crosspolarizing microscopy.?
what is the difference between conoscopy and microscopy with resoect to multilamellar vesicles?
I have a small box of new JEOL 35C electronic parts. Potentiometers, lamps, IC's, transistors,push-button switches, etc. I'll send it to anyone that wants it. Email me at directly.
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I have 2 Jeol M3 cathodes I'll give anyone that wants them. They were bought for a 100CX TEM. Both are new, but have been on a shelf for 20yrs. Let me know if you want them.
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Hello TEM community: I have LEO 912AB TEM and need to order a new LaB6 filament. I can't for the life of me remember or find in my files what I ordered the last time except that it was a Denka. If anyone has this information and would pass it on I would be truly grateful. bob harris
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Have a look at http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/index.html under MENU
It's a bit of struggle with all the links, but under Best Image Galleries & Collections have a look at the SEM (scanning electron microscope) - the first one. They aren't light microscopy but SEMs are great for fibre morphology surface details.
I found things like Cellulose fibers (fibres) in toilet paper, paper towels, T shirt cotton with dirt, asbestos (best to view that on-line), woven silk etc.. [In 'Dennis Kunkel Microscopy, Inc.' link.]
Also search through the microscopy primer site, they have loads of stock images
I found rabbit hair, silk, nylon (all under polarised light microscopy so they appear brightly coloured - rather unlike standard microscope images).
The microscopy primer also tells you loads about microscopes (and you can operate them virtually).
Plus try the hobby site http://www.btinternet.com/~stephen.durr/ as it has links that may provide something (but most sites are interested in things like plants, animals and pond life).
You may be able to get a library loan of an old book that has suitable pictures for scanning, e.g.
Textile fiber atlas : A collection of photomicrographs of old and new textile fibers, by Werner Von Bergen (Jan 1, 1949).
The microscopy of animal textile fibres,: Including methods for the complete analysis of fibre blends. 235 half-tone and ll colour photomicrographs, 88 line drawings by Alec Blakey Wildman (Jan 1, 1954)
I found the book links on amazon.com (both are out of print).
Regards
Keith
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Question: We are planning an elementary microscopy lab using a variety of natural and synthetic fibers. I would like to locat some photomicrographs of sample fibers so the kids could compare their observations to know appearance samples. I have been unable to find a good set of micrographs on the web.......are there any common references that might have some useable pictures.
THANK you for the help!!!
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Ryan, In addition to all the other suggestions about small sample size, out of the lens field, etc., also try running your sample through a degausser just before putting it in the SEM. Any residual magnetism is going to adversely affect a high mag image. I can remember (too many years ago) swearing at the SEM I operated (and didn't particularly like) because my resolution was terrible, then remembering that my sample was a piece of carbon steel. After degaussing, the resolution was fine.
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] SEM imaging on sample with magnetic substrate
Question: I have a saple with deposits of an alloy of Sn-Co-C on a magnetic stainless steel substrate (430 stainless steel). I'm using a cold field emission microscope and am having trouble getting high resolution images. Could you suggest what setting I should use to get started?
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I forwarded your request to Scott Stoeffler, a member of our Optical Microscopy group, and he provided these suggestions:
Any good basic book on textile science will have fiber photomicrographs. Margery Joseph's Introductory Textile Science is a good one and available pretty cheaply.
There is also a CD available with a lot of fiber pictures, but it's pretty expensive:
http://www.atexinc.com/digital_textiles_(cd).htm
Natural fibers such as cotton, linen, wool and silk are easier to distinguish based on morphology alone. Without polarized light, synthetics aren't easily distinguishable, although you can look at cross-sections.
You might also take a look at our on-line Atlas of Microscopic Particles at www.mccroneatlas.com. If you do a basic search on fibers, you'll get some examples of cloth and paper fiber images with some background information.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Elaine
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Question: We are planning an elementary microscopy lab using a variety of natural and synthetic fibers. I would like to locat some photomicrographs of sample fibers so the kids could compare their observations to know appearance samples. I have been unable to find a good set of micrographs on the web.......are there any common references that might have some useable pictures.
The standard configuration of Denka cathode for Leo Microscopes is the M3-CA, which has a 15 micron round tip. For greater brightness, especially in TEM applications, many users prefer the M3-CA sharp 60/10 or M3-CA sharp 60/5. Please feel free to contact me off line if you would like to discuss the differences.
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A question to whose who have made some recent tests on FEG-SEM.
I would have advices about the differences which can be practically seen between the Zeiss Supra 40 et the Supra 55. Resolutions annonced are quite different. I want to know if it's only a spec difference, or if practically it's easy to see it. We have made tests on the 55, but the budget doesn't follow... All other advices are welcome.
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Someone had said that distilled water will cause copper tubing to ionize, and correction will be faster than tap water. Has anybody heard this?
Ann Fook Yang EM Unit/ Unite EM AAFC/AAC 960 Carling Ave, Ottawa,Ontario Canada K1A 0C6 yanga-at-agr.gc.ca Telephone/Téléphone: 613-759-1638 Facsimile/Télécopieur: 613-759-1701
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-----Original Message----- X-from: beth-at-plantbio.uga.edu [mailto:beth-at-plantbio.uga.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 6:50 PM To: Yang, Ann-Fook
Just wanted to thank everyone for the responses to my posting about the TEM water chiller additives. I'll try just using distilled water and monitoring the system more frequently. Thank you! Beth
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The only additive I use is colloidal silver, sold as a health food item by Natural Immunogenics 888-328-8840. This method, suggested to me by Vitaly Feingold has worked very well. I also add a quart or so of tap water to the DI water so it is not so aggressive on the copper.
I have no connection with the silver supplier.
David Rothbard
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Distilled water is fine. It is the deionized water that cause problems to the copper tubing due to the lack of ions in it.
Zhaojie Zhang Microscopy Core Facility University of Wyoming Laramie, WY 82071
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Hi Beth,
Someone had said that distilled water will cause copper tubing to ionize, and correction will be faster than tap water. Has anybody heard this?
Ann Fook Yang EM Unit/ Unite EM AAFC/AAC 960 Carling Ave, Ottawa,Ontario Canada K1A 0C6 yanga-at-agr.gc.ca Telephone/Téléphone: 613-759-1638 Facsimile/Télécopieur: 613-759-1701
Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada - Agriculture et Agroalimentaire Canada
-----Original Message----- X-from: beth-at-plantbio.uga.edu [mailto:beth-at-plantbio.uga.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 6:50 PM To: Yang, Ann-Fook
Just wanted to thank everyone for the responses to my posting about the TEM water chiller additives. I'll try just using distilled water and monitoring the system more frequently. Thank you! Beth
********************************************************************** Beth Richardson EM Lab Coordinator Plant Biology Department University of Georgia Athens, GA 30602-7271
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That is a difficult situation. First off, the Supra 55 was discontinued for some unknown reason, leaving the Supra 55VP still viable. IMO, the 55 is superior to the 55VP. Why the 40 has lower resolution than the 55 is unknown to me. At 200KX-350KX, I rather doubt that one could tell the difference in resolution between the 40 and 55VP. But one probably could see a difference between the 40 and 55. this assumes identical conditions (low current, 30u center aperture, 3mm WD, 20KV, in-lens detector).
gary g.
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The questions you have asked require a whole day lecture on polarized light, but here are the fundamentals.
Materials that respond to polarized light have different refractive indices along different axes. These axes are always perpendicular to each other, but not necessarily to the crystal edges or material directions (although they typically lie along the long and short edges of a fiber and along the direction of draw and perpendicular in a film.. but more about that later). The refractive index is a measurement of the interaction of the electric field in light with the electric field in matter: the greater the interaction, the higher the value. Mathematically, you can calculate RI by dividing the velocity of light in vacuum (300,000 km/s) with the velocity of light in the material.
I can't send diagrams in this email (will do so, if you contact me off line), but imagine a rectangle as representing your object, with the short side having lower RI and the long side having higher RI (Step 1) . (This is highly simplified, but works). Next, imagine the crossed polars, with direction of vibration transmitted through the first polar as vibrating East-West and the permitted direction of vibration through the second polar (the "analyzer") as North-South (Step 2).
Step 3: Cross the polars and put the object in between. Imagine that you are looking down on this "sandwich". a. When either the short side or long side of the rectangle is parallel to the polarizer, only that direction receives energy from the polarized light. Since that light is vibrating E-W, it will not pass the analyzer. Rather, it will be absorbed, so the crystal appears dark in these two orientations. b. Imagine rotating the crystal into any 45 degree position. In this orientation, both RI directions receive energy from the polarizer and, if you complete the rectangle so that you have a resultant vector, you will see that the vector has components that will pass through the analyzer. In this position, the crystal will appear bright between crossed polars.
Now for your multi-lamellar vesicle. The fact that it has areas that appear bright indicates that its internal structure generates differences in electrical field with direction. In other words, it is anisotropic. If you consider how the lamellae are laid down in the vesicle, this makes perfect sense. The maltese cross that you are seeing indicate the two directions of the primary RI's. In each of these positions, only one RI is visible to the incoming polarized light; the same situation as described above in which the short or long side of the crystal is parallel to the direction of the polarizer or analyzer.
Actually, if you removed the analyzer and did RI tests with just the polarizer in place, then rotated the polarizer 90 degrees and did another RI test, you could actually determine the RI in each of those directions.
I don't have direct experience with this type of vesicle, but I would assume that, like starch and polymer spherulites, if you rotate your sample between XPol, the cross will stay in the same orientation indicating that your lamellae are sitting radially within the vesicle.
Hope this was helpful.
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Yes, this can be the case. Distilled water can often be more corrosive to piping than regular tap water, it does depend upon the water chemistry of the tap water. What you really want is de-oxygenated water.
Beth, if you'd like more info, I can send you a synopsis of a recent discussion on this subject from a while back. Or if you prefer, you may email me directly and we could talk more about this, as you wish.
dj
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I am looking for an older Oxford Pulse Processor so I can do some testing of EDX detectors. The model number can go back to #2020 and forward. I don't need the complete analyzer system. If anyone has one of these pulse processors that is available for sale, please contact me directly at my email below. Kind Regards, Jim Nicolino
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As the President, Officers, and only member of the Half-Norwegian (on my Mother's side) Electron Microscopy Society, I would like to wish all you listers a Happy Norwegian Independence Day!!
Also, thank you for all your recent help on nano-particles in agarose and the fascinating string on ethics.
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On May 17, 2006, at 8:38 AM, YANGA-at-AGR.GC.CA wrote:
} Someone had said that distilled water will cause copper tubing to } ionize, and correction will be faster than tap water. Has anybody } heard this? } Dear Ann Fook, I also have heard this. I have not done the experiment, but if [Cu+] = [Cu++] = 0, then any dissolved oxidizing agent will cause Cu to be ionized, so there is good reason to believe that distilled H2O will be more corrosive. I would not advise using it in an EM. Yours, Bill Tivol, PhD EM Scientist and Manager Cryo-Electron Microscopy Facility Broad Center, Mail Code 114-96 California Institute of Technology Pasadena CA 91125 (626) 395-8833 tivol-at-caltech.edu
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On May 17, 2006, at 9:20 AM, ZZhang-at-uwyo.edu wrote:
} Distilled water is fine. It is the deionized water that cause problems } to the copper tubing due to the lack of ions in it.
Dear Zhaojie, Distillation will remove non-volatile ions, so unless the tap water has something like NH4HCO3 in it, it will not have many ions after distillation. Yours, Bill Tivol, PhD EM Scientist and Manager Cryo-Electron Microscopy Facility Broad Center, Mail Code 114-96 California Institute of Technology Pasadena CA 91125 (626) 395-8833 tivol-at-caltech.edu
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Question: I've had the strangest thing happen this past weekend and since and no one who I've talked to (some very experienced with thin sectioning) has been able to help.
I had been sectioning a block of tissue embedded in Poly/Bed 812 at 50 nm without difficulty using a Diatome diamond knife on a Leica Ultracut microtome, getting beautiful silver sections, spredding then by wafting a toothpick dipped in chloroform over them, and picking them up on formvar coated slot grids. All has been well until this weekend. Everything was set-up as it had been the previous day. Same knife, same boat water, same toothpicks, same choroform, same block, etc. As was the case previously, I got beautiful silver sections, but when I when to spread them with chloroform on a toothpick, they ran away as I moved the toothpick close to them, lickety-split. I could chase them around the boat with the toothpick. When I tried to pick them up on a grid, I couldn't. They would just slide off, back onto the water surface in the boat. Arrrrgh! Naturally, this is happening just as I reach the critical spot in the tissue I'm sectioning.
Not to be deterred, I cleaned the boat by washing it with clean water, got new beakers to hold the water I use, and tried again. The same thing happened. At that point I called it quits for the day and hoped it was some strange environmental effect that would disappear the following week. No Joy! When I sat down to section today, the same thing happened. I tried cleaning the knife boat with 0.2% ethanol in water, got new glassware, new chloroform, new toothpicks, etc. Still no joy?
So, my question is, can anyone give me some guidance as to what might be going on? I'm at my wits end.
Oh, one other thing, if I let the chloroform evaporate off the dipped toothpick, the sections don't run away from it.
It sounds to me like a static electricity problem. Is your air suddenly much drier? i.e. did they turn on the air conditioner? We found many years ago that we could block this with those old darkroom "dustfree" brushes with polonium strips in them. I don't know if those are still available.
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I would like to test 3D reconstruction from tilted images (jpeg, tiff or bmp) from an Hitachi S4000 SEM. Does anyone knows a software that could do such thing ? It has to be free, because it is just a test (at the moment) and running under MS-Windows. I know the easiest way yo do that is to paint 2 tilted images (with a tilt difference of about 8 degrees) in red and green with a photoshop-style software and use special glasses, but I would like to display something that looks like an AFM map on the screen. If anyone has experienced that type of job, I would be glad to have advices.
Ludovic Pinier
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For a free program for 3D surface topography have a look at
Measuring Surface Topography with Scanning Electron Microscopy. I. EZEImage: A Program to Obtain 3D Surface Data Ezequiel Ponz,1 Juan Luis Ladaga,2 and Rita Dominga Bonetto1*
which appeared in Microscopy and Microanalysis 12 (2006) 170-177.
Best regards, Jørgen.
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Joergen B. Bilde-Soerensen Senior Research Scientist, Ph. D. Materials Research Department Risoe National Laboratory DK-4000 Roskilde Denmark
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I would like to test 3D reconstruction from tilted images (jpeg, tiff or bmp) from an Hitachi S4000 SEM. Does anyone knows a software that could do such thing ? It has to be free, because it is just a test (at the moment) and running under MS-Windows. I know the easiest way yo do that is to paint 2 tilted images (with a tilt difference of about 8 degrees) in red and green with a photoshop-style software and use special glasses, but I would like to display something that looks like an AFM map on the screen. If anyone has experienced that type of job, I would be glad to have advices.
Ludovic Pinier
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I'll second the notion that your problem is static. In my lab here in Houston, I have the same problem when there is low humidity. On days of high humidity, no "run around" sections.
Mannie Steglich UTMD Anderson Cancer Center
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Email: kempfsc-at-auburn.edu Name: Steve Kempf
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] Running away sections
Question: I've had the strangest thing happen this past weekend and since and no one who I've talked to (some very experienced with thin sectioning) has been able to help.
I had been sectioning a block of tissue embedded in Poly/Bed 812 at 50 nm without difficulty using a Diatome diamond knife on a Leica Ultracut microtome, getting beautiful silver sections, spredding then by wafting a toothpick dipped in chloroform over them, and picking them up on formvar coated slot grids. All has been well until this weekend. Everything was set-up as it had been the previous day. Same knife, same boat water, same toothpicks, same choroform, same block, etc. As was the case previously, I got beautiful silver sections, but when I when to spread them with chloroform on a toothpick, they ran away as I moved the toothpick close to them, lickety-split. I could chase them around the boat with the toothpick. When I tried to pick them up on a grid, I couldn't. They would just slide off, back onto the water surface in the boat. Arrrrgh! Naturally, this is happening just as I reach the critical spot in the tissue I'm sectioning.
Not to be deterred, I cleaned the boat by washing it with clean water, got new beakers to hold the water I use, and tried again. The same thing happened. At that point I called it quits for the day and hoped it was some strange environmental effect that would disappear the following week. No Joy! When I sat down to section today, the same thing happened. I tried cleaning the knife boat with 0.2% ethanol in water, got new glassware, new chloroform, new toothpicks, etc. Still no joy?
So, my question is, can anyone give me some guidance as to what might be going on? I'm at my wits end.
Oh, one other thing, if I let the chloroform evaporate off the dipped toothpick, the sections don't run away from it.
Yesterday was the first time that I tried to cut a "turbinate" nose bone, and I found it extremely hard, and even the poor razor blades were instantly dull when I was trying to trim the block.
Does anyone have any good decalcification schemes for processing of specimens which contain bone for electron microscopy?
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Steve, We gave up smelling chloroform a while ago and switched to using a hot wire. The supply houses sell these, very nice units, but with a little care you could probably make one. They deliver a controlled amount of heat to a thin wire loop. You wave this near the sections and just like chloroform, the heat flattens the sections right out. I realize this isn't a fix for your problem right now, but something to consider for the future. Your liver may thank you!
As ever, Tobias Baskin } } Email: kempfsc-at-auburn.edu } Name: Steve Kempf } } Organization: Auburn University } } Title-Subject: [Filtered] Running away sections } } Question: I've had the strangest thing happen this past weekend and } since and no one who I've talked to (some very experienced with thin } sectioning) has been able to help. } } I had been sectioning a block of tissue embedded in Poly/Bed 812 at } 50 nm without difficulty using a Diatome diamond knife on a Leica } Ultracut microtome, getting beautiful silver sections, spredding } then by wafting a toothpick dipped in chloroform over them, and } picking them up on formvar coated slot grids. All has been well } until this weekend. Everything was set-up as it had been the } previous day. Same knife, same boat water, same toothpicks, same } choroform, same block, etc. As was the case previously, I got } beautiful silver sections, but when I when to spread them with } chloroform on a toothpick, they ran away as I moved the toothpick } close to them, lickety-split. I could chase them around the boat } with the toothpick. When I tried to pick them up on a grid, I } couldn't. They would just slide off, back onto the water surface in } the boat. Arrrrgh! Naturally, this is happening just as I reach the } critical spot in the tissue I'm sectioning. } } Not to be deterred, I cleaned the boat by washing it with clean } water, got new beakers to hold the water I use, and tried again. The } same thing happened. At that point I called it quits for the day and } hoped it was some strange environmental effect that would disappear } the following week. No Joy! When I sat down to section today, the } same thing happened. I tried cleaning the knife boat with 0.2% } ethanol in water, got new glassware, new chloroform, new toothpicks, } etc. Still no joy? } } So, my question is, can anyone give me some guidance as to what } might be going on? I'm at my wits end. } } Oh, one other thing, if I let the chloroform evaporate off the } dipped toothpick, the sections don't run away from it. } } Thanks for any advice, } } Steve } } -
This is a perfect question for Histonet: www.histonet.org to subscribe to the mailing list. There are several "boneheads" on the list who can help you.
Phil
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Although Histo folks use formic acid, it is murder on ultrastructure.
I have better luck with small bone by 1st fixing for an hour or two in regular fixative, then soaking in a buffered EDTA solution overnight, then refixing in Glut, then embed as normal or in a hard epoxy.
Still... Don't use your BEST knife
Lou Ann
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I'm seeking advice from those who have had success corralling small specimens into dialysis tubing for EM processing. We recently tried some samples in 2 different types of tubing that were convenient just because we had them around. The samples were high pressure frozen and freeze substituted but in the end one type of tube just dissolved in the acetone and the other shrunk greatly, crushing the contents. Does anyone have a recommendation for a brand of tubing that is robust in this kind of treatment?
Our thought has been to embed the entire tube and contents for sectioning. Is there any reason that might not work?
Thanks in advance, Jay
Jay Campbell Research Specialist University of Wisconsin Laboratory of Molecular Biology R.M. Bock Labs 1525 Linden Drive Madison, WI 53706 jmcampbe-at-wisc.edu 608 263 8481
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Following 3 days of incubation with a substance, I can observe an important decrease in cell viability by ELISA (resazurin assay, BTW I recommand this test since it is very good and costs nothing). Now I would like to know if the cells die by apopotosis. Unfortunately the commercial kits are very expensive and there seems to be no "home made" solution. I thought about observing the cells in fluorescence using DAPI. I know DNA compaction is a late event of apoptosis, and that microcroscopy does not give quantitative measurements (easily) but it could at least show a clear effect, like Y/N apoptosis is involved in the reduction of cell viability. If I see no sign of apoptosis by fluorescence I can search in another direction and save some money in the process.
I would like to read your comments about my idea.
Regards,
Stéphane (without-the-i)
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We use a Diatome Static LineII (which is an anti static device) with the tip hanging close to where the sections are cut. I use it for room temperature slicing even though it was designed for Cryo slicing. We bought ours through EMS at www.emsdiasum.com. Hope this is helpful. shawn
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On May 17, 2006, at 5:38 PM, Mayya_Saab-at-dps-consulting.com wrote:
} Question: What is this field? How can it help an individual? } Dear Mayya, Dark field imaging is a technique where the unscattered beam (of either light or electrons) is removed from the image, so that the image consists only of the scattered particles. With this technique the most strongly scattering parts of the specimen appear brightest. It is a help for specimens of low contrast, and it can be used to highlight those parts of a specimen that scatter into well-defined areas; e.g., crystals having a particular orientation or heavy atoms. Yours, Bill Tivol, PhD EM Scientist and Manager Cryo-Electron Microscopy Facility Broad Center, Mail Code 114-96 California Institute of Technology Pasadena CA 91125 (626) 395-8833 tivol-at-caltech.edu
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Here in Britain we have a gov't TV advertisement aimed at recruiting teachers, showing young people with "active minds" asking lots of awkward questions. One is:
"What's the difference between dust and fluff?"
WE know the answer - there should be one in every classroom!
*** from the neutrino who always pulls his weight ***,
----------------------------------- Robert H. Olley Reply to: R.H.Olley-at-reading.ac.uk URL: http://www.rdg.ac.uk/~spsolley -----------------------------------
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} -------------- } } For a free program for 3D surface topography have a look at } } Measuring Surface Topography with Scanning Electron } Microscopy. I. EZEImage: A Program to Obtain 3D Surface Data } Ezequiel Ponz,1 Juan Luis Ladaga,2 and Rita Dominga Bonetto1* } } which appeared in Microscopy and Microanalysis 12 (2006) 170-177. } } Best regards, Jørgen. } } = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = } } Joergen B. Bilde-Soerensen } Senior Research Scientist, Ph. D. } Materials Research Department } Risoe National Laboratory } DK-4000 Roskilde } Denmark } } e-mail: j.bilde-at-risoe.dk } phone: +45 4677 5802 (direct) } phone: +45 4677 4677 (switchboard) } fax: +45 4677 5758 } website: http://www.risoe.dk/afm/Personal/jqbi/jqbi.htm
Did anybody tried to use this program? I would greatly appreciate any comments. Examples from the paper were not convincing. I still do not believe that gray level alone could be used for successful 3D reconstruction. I would be glad to change my opinion.
Vladimir M. Dusevich, Ph.D. Electron Microscope Lab Manager 371 School of Dentistry 650 E. 25th Street Kansas City, MO 64108-2784
10% EDTA adjusted with NaOH to PH 7.5 will do the work. Change solution every other day for 1-2 weeks (for small pieces of bone, about 0.5 mm square). Better on a rotator.
As for calcified bone, I trim it with a small file in a fume hood.
Vladimir M. Dusevich, Ph.D. Electron Microscope Lab Manager 371 School of Dentistry 650 E. 25th Street Kansas City, MO 64108-2784
} -------------- } } } Yesterday was the first time that I tried to cut a } "turbinate" nose bone, and I found it extremely hard, and } even the poor razor blades were instantly dull when I was } trying to trim the block. } } Does anyone have any good decalcification schemes for } processing of specimens which contain bone for electron microscopy? } } This e-mail and/or any documents in this transmission is } intended for the address(s) only and may contain legally } privileged or confidential information. Any unauthorized use, } disclosure, distribution, copying or dissemination is } strictly prohibited. If you receive this transmission in } error, please notify the sender immediately and return the original.
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Distilled water does have a slightly acidic pH. While we use distilled water in our cooling systems, we add a bit of sodium bicarbonate to bring the pH up to neutral. I just pull out the pH paper 3-4 times a year and check the cooling systems.
Cheers, Henk
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We are doing a rush job for a client who requires 4.0 um sections from JB 4 blocks. Our ultramicrotomists extraordinaire, Cheryl, is having a dickens of a time getting the sections to remain flat when removing them from the knife. She is cutting on glass and taking sections from the dry edge with a fine forceps. As soon as the sections leave the knife, they curl and won't uncurl when placed on a drop of water on a slide.
Not only is this a rush job in support of a grant proposal, but it requires serial sectioning with no missing sections, and we have, like, no real experience with this resin. Cheryl has tried various sized block faces and different thicknesses for the sections, but nothing is helping.
The thumping sound you hear is a head hitting a wall----repeatedly. Can anyone HEEEELLLLP??
Thanks!
Randy
Randy Tindall EM Specialist Electron Microscopy Core Facility---We Do Small Well! W125 Veterinary Medicine University of Missouri Columbia, MO 65211 Tel: (573) 882-8304 Fax: (573) 884-2227 Email: tindallr-at-missouri.edu Web: http://www.emc.missouri.edu
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The problem of dealing with algal growth in water chillers is discussed in some detail on p. 216 of my book, Vacuum Methods in Electron Microscopy (ISBN 1-85578-052-6, available from SPi, Ladd, Pella, etc.). One basic fact to remember is that algae require light to grow, and so you can go a long way toward reducing algal growth by excluding light from the chiller system (a light-tight cover for the reservoir and opaque tubing leading to and from the instrument). Beyond that, it is simple to add a bit of an algacide such as Chloroamine-T or dichlorophene to the system. These chemicals are available from specialty chemical companies such as Polysciences, Sigma, etc., and perhaps from your local air conditioning or swimming pool service company. For Chloramine-T the recommended concentration is about one gram per gallon of water. It is, of course, advisable to use distilled water to avoid the build-up of scale in the system. -- Wilbur C. Bigelow, Professor Emeritus Materials Sci. & Engr., Univ. of Michigan Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-2136 e-mail: bigelow-at-engin.umich.edu; Fx:734-763-4788; Ph:734-662-5237 Address mail to: 1136 Mixtwood Rd. Ann Arbor, MI 48103-3035
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ah yes, the joys of bmma. i have spent many a pleasant hour cursing the curling sections. in my experience, no change in shape, speed, thickness makes a difference. I learned to be waiting for the section to start cutting and then either grabbing a corner of it with a fine forceps or using the forceps' tines to hold the corner down on to the surface of the knife while it cut. then stopping the microtome, removing the section, and re-starting the cutting motor. very tedious and time-consuming. it does help to listen to NPR while doing this. I know you are stuck to the whims of your client whose blocks are already embedded but I strongly recommend any fans of JB-4 consider switching to the generic (and therefore less expensive) butylmethyl methacrylate resin mix of Tobias Baskin. you can cut on water filled boats and use acetone to extract the resin so the sensitivity is better and the sectioning is trivial. My condolences to Cheryl. Tom
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Whoops - I mistakenly typed the wrong resin name in the first sentence of my last posting - the correct version is below:
} ah yes, the joys of JB-4. i have spent many a pleasant hour cursing the } curling sections. in my experience, no change in shape, speed, thickness } makes a difference. I learned to be waiting for the section to start } cutting and then either grabbing a corner of it with a fine forceps or } using the forceps' tines to hold the corner down on to the surface of the } knife while it cut. then stopping the microtome, removing the section, and } re-starting the cutting motor. very tedious and time-consuming. it does } help to listen to NPR while doing this. I know you are stuck to the whims } of your client whose blocks are already embedded but I strongly recommend } any fans of JB-4 consider switching to the generic (and therefore less } expensive) butylmethyl methacrylate resin mix of Tobias Baskin. you can } cut on water filled boats and use acetone to extract the resin so the } sensitivity is better and the sectioning is trivial. My condolences to } Cheryl. Tom } } At 02:16 PM 05/18/06, you wrote: } } } } } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } The Microscopy ListServer -- CoSponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver } } On-Line Help http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } } } Dear Listers, } } } } We are doing a rush job for a client who requires 4.0 um sections from } } JB 4 blocks. Our ultramicrotomists extraordinaire, Cheryl, is having a } } dickens of a time getting the sections to remain flat when removing them } } from the knife. She is cutting on glass and taking sections from the } } dry edge with a fine forceps. As soon as the sections leave the knife, } } they curl and won't uncurl when placed on a drop of water on a slide. } } } } Not only is this a rush job in support of a grant proposal, but it } } requires serial sectioning with no missing sections, and we have, like, } } no real experience with this resin. Cheryl has tried various sized } } block faces and different thicknesses for the sections, but nothing is } } helping. } } } } The thumping sound you hear is a head hitting a wall----repeatedly. Can } } anyone HEEEELLLLP?? } } } } Thanks! } } } } Randy } } } } Randy Tindall } } EM Specialist } } Electron Microscopy Core Facility---We Do Small Well! } } W125 Veterinary Medicine } } University of Missouri } } Columbia, MO 65211 } } Tel: (573) 882-8304 } } Fax: (573) 884-2227 } } Email: tindallr-at-missouri.edu } } Web: http://www.emc.missouri.edu } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } ==============================Original Headers============================== } } 11, 23 -- From TindallR-at-missouri.edu Thu May 18 14:15:28 2006 } } 11, 23 -- Received: from um-exproto9.um.umsystem.edu } } (um-exproto9.um.umsystem.edu [207.160.151.49]) } } 11, 23 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP } } id k4IJFS1G021560 } } 11, 23 -- for {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Thu, 18 May 2006 14:15:28 } } -0500 } } 11, 23 -- Received: from UM-EMAIL10.um.umsystem.edu ([207.160.151.31]) by } } um-exproto9.um.umsystem.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); } } 11, 23 -- Thu, 18 May 2006 14:15:27 -0500 } } 11, 23 -- X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 } } 11, 23 -- Content-class: urn:content-classes:message } } 11, 23 -- MIME-Version: 1.0 } } 11, 23 -- Content-Type: text/plain; } } 11, 23 -- charset="us-ascii" } } 11, 23 -- Subject: Sectioning JB 4 resin } } 11, 23 -- Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:15:26 -0500 } } 11, 23 -- Message-ID: } } {BA876152E8653240BE8572E897083EE701849FD1-at-UM-EMAIL09.um.umsystem.edu} } } 11, 23 -- X-MS-Has-Attach: } } 11, 23 -- X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: } } 11, 23 -- Thread-Topic: Sectioning JB 4 resin } } 11, 23 -- Thread-Index: AcZ6r2r/IkxeShTKSq2TzE/9tevkIQ== } } 11, 23 -- From: "Tindall, Randy D." {TindallR-at-missouri.edu} } } 11, 23 -- To: {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} } } 11, 23 -- X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2006 19:15:27.0809 (UTC) } } FILETIME=[6C192310:01C67AAF] } } 11, 23 -- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit } } 11, 23 -- X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by } } ns.microscopy.com id k4IJFS1G021560 } } ==============================End of - Headers============================== } } Thomas E. 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Thomas E. Phillips, PhD Professor of Biological Sciences Director, Molecular Cytology Core 2 Tucker Hall University of Missouri Columbia, MO 65211-7400
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Question: I just wanted to thank everyone who replied to my question yesterday. I too thought static charge might be the problem; however, it seemed strange that if that was the case, the sections didn't "run away" when I put the chloroform dipped toothpick next to them after allowing the chloroform to evaporate. At any rate, late yesterday I dismounted the block I had been having the problems with and mounted new one and, guess what, no problems. Everything worked fine. I didn't have time to re-try the block that I had been having the problem with again followng that, so I put it in a 60 degree oven overnight and mounted it this morning. And, as the Gods of sectioning would have it, everything was back to normal with no "running away" problems.
Go figure?
So, if it was static, did just changing the block releave the charge?
At any rate, thanks again for all the suggestions.
I have a client who would like to figure out the composition (in terms of protein, carbohydrates, and nucleic acids) of small (0.2um - 1um) abiotic particles. They have already tried to stain with DAPI and a couple of other things (I don't know what) and look with fluorescence and flow cytometry, but the size/signal is too low.
The only approach I know is microscopy (I'm a one-trick pony). Should they be pursuing other methods, talking to biochemists, geochemists, food nutritionists? Their sample size is very tiny; microscopic.
For microscopy all I can think of is things like antibodies to nucleic acids, hitting it with all kinds of lectins, and other shotgun approaches. They have been able to get some of these on a coated grid with an airfuge; they are pretty electron dense. I shudder to think that I will need to embed and section them, but I can give it a shot. No idea if they also contain metallic particles, but I would not be surprised.
Does anyone have any ideas how to approach this challenge?
Mahalo (thanks), Tina
**************************************************************************** * Tina (Weatherby) Carvalho * tina-at-pbrc.hawaii.edu * * Biological Electron Microscope Facility * (808) 956-6251 * * University of Hawaii at Manoa * http://www.pbrc.hawaii.edu/bemf* ****************************************************************************
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Similar to what Tom suggested below, that is, mechanical restriction to reduce the roll up of the section, is to use a fine tipped artists brush to sort of tamp the section lightly to the surface of the knife as it comes of the knife edge, or to use light pressure on top of section to restrict the roll up. A slow cutting speed would give you more time to do that. Then use the brush to lift it off the knife surface to the slide. I had a microtomist here a year ago who had to do that and I think it was JB-4 or GMA resin that she was cutting. Best of luck to Cheryl!
Gib -- Gilbert (Gib) Ahlstrand, Electron Microscopist, Imaging Center, University of Minnesota 123 Snyder Hall St. Paul, MN 55108 http://www.cbs.umn.edu/ic
phillipst-at-missouri.edu wrote: } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } The Microscopy ListServer -- CoSponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver } On-Line Help http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } ah yes, the joys of bmma [JB-4]. i have spent many a pleasant hour cursing the } curling sections. in my experience, no change in shape, speed, thickness } makes a difference. I learned to be waiting for the section to start } cutting and then either grabbing a corner of it with a fine forceps or } using the forceps' tines to hold the corner down on to the surface of the } knife while it cut. then stopping the microtome, removing the section, and } re-starting the cutting motor. very tedious and time-consuming. it does } help to listen to NPR while doing this. I know you are stuck to the whims } of your client whose blocks are already embedded but I strongly recommend } any fans of JB-4 consider switching to the generic (and therefore less } expensive) butylmethyl methacrylate resin mix of Tobias Baskin. you can } cut on water filled boats and use acetone to extract the resin so the } sensitivity is better and the sectioning is trivial. My condolences to } Cheryl. Tom } } At 02:16 PM 05/18/06, you wrote:
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_____________________________________________ X-from: Randi Olsen Sent: 18. mai 2006 16:04 To: 'Microscopy-at-microscopy.com'
Hi listers,
Our lab wishes to print out b/w images from scanned TEM negatives and bypass completely darkroom enlargements. Printouts should not be expensive but should have a good dynamic range to allow researchers to evaluate fine structures etc. Can anyone suggest (or even recommend) the most suitable monochrome printers for this purpose. We have already a Fujix pictrography system so final (expensive) printouts are no problem here. TIA,
Jim
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I must admit that I have never attempted growing bacteria on grids. But I wonder if the copper of the grids is too reactive. It might both inhibit bacteria and encourage precipitation/reaction products.
You could try a couple of gold grids as a control to see if matters improve.
Good luck
Malcolm
Malcolm Haswell e.m. unit School of Health, Natural and Social Sciences Fleming Building University of Sunderland Tyne & Wear SR1 3SD UK e-mail: malcolm.haswell-at-sunderland.ac.uk
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Dear Randi,
A possible way out of your problem might be the technique I used years ago in the study of thermophilic bacteria in nature. I deposited carbon films in vacuo on small freshly-cleaved mica squares and let them mature for a few days. The films were carefully floated off on the water surface and the bacteria were allowed to settle on and attach to the underside of the carbon. The films were then transferred to other solutions with a fine Pt loop (or even the original mica piece - submerged then lifted up below the film). Staining with aqueous solutions of UA, AM or PTA can be done either before (preferably) or after the films are picked up with TEM grids. Good luck.
Jim
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_____________________________________________ X-from: Randi Olsen Sent: 18. mai 2006 16:04 To: 'Microscopy-at-microscopy.com'
Tina,
If they just need things like "protein" or "carbohydrate", how about cytochemical staining methods for light microscopy? Deposit the particles on slides, and pretend they're bacteria. SEM/EDX ought to pick up metals. Mind, there are things like ninhydrin for protein, and the protein/carbohydrate/fat methods physiological ecologists (and in the Old Days, biochemists) use, if there is enough sample.
Phil
} Hi, All- } } I have a client who would like to figure out the composition (in terms of } protein, carbohydrates, and nucleic acids) of small (0.2um - 1um) abiotic } particles. They have already tried to stain with DAPI and a couple of } other things (I don't know what) and look with fluorescence and flow } cytometry, but the size/signal is too low. } } The only approach I know is microscopy (I'm a one-trick pony). Should they } be pursuing other methods, talking to biochemists, geochemists, food } nutritionists? Their sample size is very tiny; microscopic. } } For microscopy all I can think of is things like antibodies to nucleic } acids, hitting it with all kinds of lectins, and other shotgun approaches. } They have been able to get some of these on a coated grid with an airfuge; } they are pretty electron dense. I shudder to think that I will need to } embed and section them, but I can give it a shot. No idea if they also } contain metallic particles, but I would not be surprised. } } Does anyone have any ideas how to approach this challenge? } } Mahalo (thanks), } Tina } } **************************************************************************** } * Tina (Weatherby) Carvalho * tina-at-pbrc.hawaii.edu * } * Biological Electron Microscope Facility * (808) 956-6251 * } * University of Hawaii at Manoa * http://www.pbrc.hawaii.edu/bemf* } **************************************************************************** -- Philip Oshel Microscopy Facility Supervisor Department of Biology Central Michigan University 024C Brooks Hall Mt. Pleasant, MI 48859 (989) 774-3576
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Hi Jim, We were apprehensive 3-4 years ago when we made this switch, but were quickly satisfied with the plain-paper work-print quality and speed of an HP Laserjet 4100, cost around $2000 back then. You can always treat yourself to a laser paper of higher brightness, like 98-105, than the noticeably dingy photo-copier paper we find ourselves settling for most of the time because "that's what's loaded in the printer". We "never" make glossies any more; a rare inkjet grayscale run of printing is the nearest thing. Publications are all done via digital files now. A local company that is quoting us on a CCD system for Philips EM 420 says their customers are now very satisfied with
$625 Hewlett Packard LaserJet 2420 MonoChrome Laser Printer (optional purchase) * Up to 30 ppm speed, 1200 dpi. Add $375 for network/duplexing capability.
and they advise: "The printer listed is the printer most recommended for gray-scale images. I can quote whatever printer you specify. However, once you are using digital images, you may find that you don't have a need for printing images. Before deciding that you want a high-quality printer, it would be good to speak with a few colleagues using CCD systems and ask how much printing they do.".
There is a frequent rumor among some experts that HP Laser printers have undocumented capability to produce at 1800 dpi. At any event, we print at something like 120-150 lines per inch; 120 would leave each 1200 dpi pixel sized 10 x 10 dots, giving a range of 10x10 gray levels, but we feel no constraints or shortcomings-- output may not be 256 gray levels, but seems very adequate. We scan negatives routinely at 800 ppi, sometimes 1200 ppi using Epson flatbeds via Photoshop plug-in, and we set up our output-screen properties/ preferences using the interface options between Photoshop and the HP printer that show up under Page Setup and Print windows (Macintosh); this and the grayscale display preferences make differences you probably want to explore and choose among. I'm too preoccupied to dig for our exact numerical settings; they have been unchanged for too long to remember the decisions. we settled on.
-mike reedy-
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On May 18, 2006, at 3:07 PM, tina-at-pbrc.hawaii.edu wrote:
} I have a client who would like to figure out the composition (in terms } of } protein, carbohydrates, and nucleic acids) of small (0.2um - 1um) } abiotic } particles. They have already tried to stain with DAPI and a couple of } other things (I don't know what) and look with fluorescence and flow } cytometry, but the size/signal is too low. } } The only approach I know is microscopy (I'm a one-trick pony). Should } they } be pursuing other methods, talking to biochemists, geochemists, food } nutritionists? Their sample size is very tiny; microscopic. } } For microscopy all I can think of is things like antibodies to nucleic } acids, hitting it with all kinds of lectins, and other shotgun } approaches. } They have been able to get some of these on a coated grid with an } airfuge; } they are pretty electron dense. I shudder to think that I will need to } embed and section them, but I can give it a shot. No idea if they also } contain metallic particles, but I would not be surprised. } } Does anyone have any ideas how to approach this challenge? } Dear Tina, There are some very sensitive methods to measure protein, carbohydrate, and nucleic acids that give quantitative information about composition. If the particles can be dissolved, the protein can be separated from the carbs and NAs by centrifugation, then it can be hydrolysed into amino acids and run through a column to get the composition, or it can be subjected to a Lowry determination (or, perhaps, more up-to-date procedures). Similarly, NA can be amplified by quantitative PCR, then quantitated or sequenced. I'm pretty sure that carbs can also be quantitated biochemically, but I am not at all familiar with those methods. Of course, none of these methods will give any structural info, so if that is needed, EM would be indicated. Talking to several members of a biology department should lead to the experts in dealing with the components of the particles, who would be able to give details on how best to proceed. Metals could be determined and quantitated by atomic absorption spectroscopy, but again this gives only overall composition, not structural info. The small sample size makes it essential that the best methods be identified before proceeding; i.e., doing it right is better than doing it fast. Good luck. Yours, Bill Tivol, PhD EM Scientist and Manager Cryo-Electron Microscopy Facility Broad Center, Mail Code 114-96 California Institute of Technology Pasadena CA 91125 (626) 395-8833 tivol-at-caltech.edu
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Hi Tina, The University of Georgia Complex Carbohydrate Research Center (CCRC) may be able to help. They have an amazing state-of-the-art facility - I call it "The Palace";-) Check out www.ccrc.uga.edu to see if someone there can help with advice. best, Beth
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We are looking to purchase some software that will log use of the computers that are interface to our microscopes.
Basically on a per user basis the software would record when the user log on and off, and would record uses of the imaging packages installed on the computer.
Currently we do this using the built in Windows 2000/ XP security event logs. This does the job but is not very user friendly.
All systems in question are PCs (no Mac systems) and the users log on with Windows Active Directory accounts.
Does any one out there know of any package that does this? It would be particularly useful if the software would not only record the data but collate it too, i.e. provide tables of total usage per user over a given time period.
Thanks
Lloyd Williams
Manager of Bio-Imaging Core Facility
Hunter College
695 Park Ave
New York NY 10021
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There are two potential problems with the approach you describe. One is that the copper grids, as pointed out in another reply, may be reacting to the salts in the growth medium. He other problem is that the bacteria are in th eprocess of forming a biofilm on the support film surface during the incubation time.
If you only want to examine the bacteria by negative stain, you can place a drop of the culture on the support film surface, leave for about 30 sec and then replace the drop with a drop of negative stain. You have to be careful to make sure there are no salts in the growth medium that could cause the negative stain, and in particular the uranyl acetate, to precipitate. There is no need to centrifuge the bacteria because there are usually enough in the drop to fall to the surface.
As with most techniques, there are many variations on this simple method, but it is always a good policy to try the easier way first to make sure it is possible to obtain results. The next easiest way is to deposit a carbon film onto a freshly-cleaved mica surface and then allow a drop of bacterial suspension to infiltrate between the carbon film and the mica. If you then place a clean grid on the carbon film you should be able to pick it up onto the support grid and then negative stain. The advantage of this method is that you don't have to worry about the support film being hydrophilic - it already is. The disadvantage is that the carbon film is very fragile so needs a small mesh grid to support it. Even better support comes form holey grids.
If you are interested in examining the bacteria as they grow on the grids, first switch to gold or nickel grids. You may then want to extensively wash the bacteria before you stain them to remove all the extracellular material they secrete in the short time they have been incubated. You can check to see if what I am saying is correct by taking a grid with bacteria on directly from the culture medium (after incubation) and plunge-freezing it in liquid propane. From there you freeze substitute it in ethanol (with a little osmium tetroxide if you wish), warm it slowly to 4 degrees and then critical point dry it and look at it in the SEM. My guess is that the bacteria will be almost invisible because they will be covered in a large amount of slimy looking stuff.
I hope this helps.
Paul Webster.
Paul Webster, Ph.D House Ear Institute 2100 West Third Street Los Angeles, CA 90057 (213) 273 8026 pwebster-at-hei.org
} From: {Randi.Olsen-at-fagmed.uit.no} } Reply-To: {Randi.Olsen-at-fagmed.uit.no} } Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 02:47:23 -0500 } To: {pwebster-at-hei.org} } Subject: [Microscopy] FW: NEGATIVE STAINING ENTEROCOCCI } } } } } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } The Microscopy ListServer -- CoSponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver } On-Line Help http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } } } _____________________________________________ } X-from: Randi Olsen } Sent: 18. mai 2006 16:04 } To: 'Microscopy-at-microscopy.com' } Subject: NEGATIVE STAINING ENTEROCOCCI } } Dear all, } We have problems with negative staining of E. Coli, and have tried two } different approaches with both Uranyl acetate and PTA. } Without being able to detect the flagellas, we see partly collapsed } bacterias and lots of dirt (growing bacterias directly on the grids) } We've also tried embed the E.coli in a mixture of methylcellulose and } uranyl acetate without any luck. } We've used carboncoated formvar films on copper grids. } I enclose the procedure for preparing cells grown on grids, observations } and some questions form the scientist in charge of this project. } We might be wrong trying to grow cells directly on grids? } } } Our aim is to prepare grids for TEM with a suitable cell number for } reliable anaysis without damaging the cells by centrifugation. } We plan to grow the cells directly onto the grids and have performed the } following: } } Inoculate cultures of enterococci in TSB+0.25%glucose and grow overnight } at 37*C without shaking. (TSB is a bacterial growth medium made from } casein and soya peptone). } Dilute cultures 100-fold in 10 ml growth medium in microtiterplate wells } containing TEM grids (should contain ca.107 cells/ml). } Incubate at 37*C without shaking for 1-4 hours. } Pick up grids at different time-points (i.e. 1h, 2h, 3h and 4h) from the } culture. } Dip the grid in particle free water. } Stain the cells with 0.5% uranyl acetate for 30". } Rinse the grids gently in particle free water before air-drying them for } 10-15'. } } Observations made: } 1. there are low cell-numbers on the grids } 2. there's a lot of stained debris or precipitate on the grids and it } seems to increase during the incubation. } } Questions: } 1. What cell density is required to obtain one layer of cells on the } grid but not cells on top of each other? } 2. Are there ways of increasing the bacterial affinity for the grids? } 3. Are there ways to reduce the amount of debris on the grids? } 4. Can grids be incubated on top of a nitrocellulose filter without } beeing damaged? } } } } } Best regards } } Randi Olsen } Department of Electron Microscopy } University of Tromso } Norway } } } ==============================Original Headers============================== } 15, 25 -- From Randi.Olsen-at-fagmed.uit.no Fri May 19 02:42:19 2006 } 15, 25 -- Received: from mux2.uit.no (mux2.uit.no [129.242.5.252]) } 15, 25 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id } k4J7gIuH019283 } 15, 25 -- for {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Fri, 19 May 2006 02:42:19 -0500 } 15, 25 -- Received: from eden5.ad.uit.no (eden5.ad.uit.no [129.242.8.11]) } 15, 25 -- by mux2.uit.no (8.13.6/8.13.6/Mux) with ESMTP id k4J7fx6R032043 } 15, 25 -- for {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Fri, 19 May 2006 09:42:18 +0200 } (CEST) } 15, 25 -- X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 } 15, 25 -- Content-class: urn:content-classes:message } 15, 25 -- MIME-Version: 1.0 } 15, 25 -- Content-Type: text/plain; } 15, 25 -- charset="us-ascii" } 15, 25 -- Subject: FW: NEGATIVE STAINING ENTEROCOCCI } 15, 25 -- Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:42:13 +0200 } 15, 25 -- Message-ID: {6B3D9BCAC4A0F941AC7625C4589F61FC4F7EFB-at-eden5.ad.uit.no} } 15, 25 -- X-MS-Has-Attach: } 15, 25 -- X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: } 15, 25 -- Thread-Topic: NEGATIVE STAINING ENTEROCOCCI } 15, 25 -- thread-index: AcZ6bAOqp+ckv3asTc6wZn588yH8jgAFZmYgACWGKyA= } 15, 25 -- From: "Randi Olsen" {Randi.Olsen-at-fagmed.uit.no} } 15, 25 -- To: {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} } 15, 25 -- X-Virus-Scanned: : ok } 15, 25 -- X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 129.242.5.252 } 15, 25 -- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit } 15, 25 -- X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by } ns.microscopy.com id k4J7gIuH019283 } ==============================End of - Headers==============================
==============================Original Headers============================== 12, 19 -- From PWebster-at-hei.org Fri May 19 13:54:08 2006 12, 19 -- Received: from hi0sml1.hei.org (House-Ear-Institute-1114861.cust-rtr.pacbell.net [71.136.31.242]) 12, 19 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k4JIs7kk027881 12, 19 -- for {Microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Fri, 19 May 2006 13:54:07 -0500 12, 19 -- Received: from 10.10.42.113 ([10.10.42.113]) by hi0sml1.hei.org ([10.10.40.106]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; 12, 19 -- Fri, 19 May 2006 18:54:07 +0000 12, 19 -- User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.3.060209 12, 19 -- Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 11:54:06 -0700 12, 19 -- Subject: Re: [Microscopy] FW: NEGATIVE STAINING ENTEROCOCCI 12, 19 -- From: "Webster, Paul" {PWebster-at-hei.org} 12, 19 -- To: {Randi.Olsen-at-fagmed.uit.no} , {Microscopy-at-microscopy.com} 12, 19 -- Message-ID: {C093625E.A305%PWebster-at-hei.org} 12, 19 -- Thread-Topic: [Microscopy] FW: NEGATIVE STAINING ENTEROCOCCI 12, 19 -- Thread-Index: AcZ7dZp+2UNP6OdoEdqZigANk7Zh7g== 12, 19 -- In-Reply-To: {200605190747.k4J7lNO9026705-at-ns.microscopy.com} 12, 19 -- Mime-version: 1.0 12, 19 -- Content-type: text/plain; 12, 19 -- charset="US-ASCII" 12, 19 -- Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit ==============================End of - Headers==============================
On May 11, 2006, at 1:13 PM, dlowry-at-asu.edu wrote:
} Colleagues, } } I am writing to get information on web-pages which have compiled links } to bio-imaging and microscopy facilities both within the US and } internationally. } } I have searched and located a few such web-sites, but they are not } very comprehensive and many of the links are dead. } } If anyone in the community may have web-addresses or information on } sites of this nature, I would appreciate their input. } } Thank you, } } David Lowry } School of Life Sciences } Arizona State University } Tempe, AZ 85287-4501 } office: 480-727-0725 } lab: 480-965-2463 } Dear David, Our lab web page has links to our work. We do not have links to other labs, AFAIK. The URL is
http://www.jensenlab.caltech.edu/
Yours, Bill Tivol, PhD EM Scientist and Manager Cryo-Electron Microscopy Facility Broad Center, Mail Code 114-96 California Institute of Technology Pasadena CA 91125 (626) 395-8833 tivol-at-caltech.edu
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Email: bxp-at-cfdrc.com Name: Prabhakar Pandian
Title-Subject: [Filtered] X-cite vs Lamda LS vs Hg Lamp
Question: Hello, We are in the market for adding a fluorescent set-up for our microscope and are looking at the X-cite 120 and the Lambda LS from Sutter Instruments. Can anyone provide pros and cons perspective.
We already have a Hg Burner for another microscope and know that is the best for the UV range.
Hello Randi, I do not have answers for all the questions but this is what we have done in the past while negatively staining Gram negative bacteria Questions: } } 1. What cell density is required to obtain one layer of cells on the } } grid but not cells on top of each other? 2. Are there ways of increasing the bacterial affinity for the grids? } } 3. Are there ways to reduce the amount of debris on the grids? } } 4. Can grids be incubated on top of a nitrocellulose filter without } } beeing damaged?
Answer: It might be challenging to achieve a monolayer of bacterial cells on the grid as every bacteria behaves a little differently when it comes to attaching to any surface. In order to view flagella or pili, we grew the bacteria in stationary cultures to prevent mechanical loss of flagella or pili. Once the bacteria were in in their log phase we pipetted out around 100 microliters of the culture and floated a fomvar coated nickle grid on it for about 5 mins and then let the grids dry. We found the incubation time to vary with different strains. These grids were rinsed in distilled water for 30 sec to a min. I have found that rinsing the grids was very important to remove all the debris and residual media from the grid leaving a clean prep. If you find low number of bacterial cells you can try increasing the incubation time and decreasing the rinse time. Staining: The grids were stained for 10 mins with 0.2% UA for 10 mins followed by a 1 min rinse with distilled water. The grids were then air dried before examination.
I found rinsing steps were key to a good prep. You have to play with the innoculation and rinsing steps to obtain desirable results.
Hope that helps. Good luck with your experiments.
regards, Vinod Nair Electron microscopy lab New Mexico State University Las Cruces NM 88003
} } 2. Are there ways of increasing the bacterial affinity for the grids? } } 3. Are there ways to reduce the amount of debris on the grids? } } 4. Can grids be incubated on top of a nitrocellulose filter without } } beeing damaged?
On 5/19/06, PWebster-at-hei.org {PWebster-at-hei.org} wrote: } } } } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } The Microscopy ListServer -- CoSponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver } On-Line Help http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } Hi Randi, } } There are two potential problems with the approach you describe. One is that } the copper grids, as pointed out in another reply, may be reacting to the } salts in the growth medium. He other problem is that the bacteria are in th } eprocess of forming a biofilm on the support film surface during the } incubation time. } } If you only want to examine the bacteria by negative stain, you can place a } drop of the culture on the support film surface, leave for about 30 sec and } then replace the drop with a drop of negative stain. You have to be careful } to make sure there are no salts in the growth medium that could cause the } negative stain, and in particular the uranyl acetate, to precipitate. There } is no need to centrifuge the bacteria because there are usually enough in } the drop to fall to the surface. } } As with most techniques, there are many variations on this simple method, } but it is always a good policy to try the easier way first to make sure it } is possible to obtain results. The next easiest way is to deposit a carbon } film onto a freshly-cleaved mica surface and then allow a drop of bacterial } suspension to infiltrate between the carbon film and the mica. If you then } place a clean grid on the carbon film you should be able to pick it up onto } the support grid and then negative stain. The advantage of this method is } that you don't have to worry about the support film being hydrophilic - it } already is. The disadvantage is that the carbon film is very fragile so } needs a small mesh grid to support it. Even better support comes form holey } grids. } } If you are interested in examining the bacteria as they grow on the grids, } first switch to gold or nickel grids. You may then want to extensively wash } the bacteria before you stain them to remove all the extracellular material } they secrete in the short time they have been incubated. You can check to } see if what I am saying is correct by taking a grid with bacteria on } directly from the culture medium (after incubation) and plunge-freezing it } in liquid propane. From there you freeze substitute it in ethanol (with a } little osmium tetroxide if you wish), warm it slowly to 4 degrees and then } critical point dry it and look at it in the SEM. My guess is that the } bacteria will be almost invisible because they will be covered in a large } amount of slimy looking stuff. } } I hope this helps. } } Paul Webster. } } } Paul Webster, Ph.D } House Ear Institute } 2100 West Third Street } Los Angeles, CA 90057 } (213) 273 8026 } pwebster-at-hei.org } } } } From: {Randi.Olsen-at-fagmed.uit.no} } } Reply-To: {Randi.Olsen-at-fagmed.uit.no} } } Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 02:47:23 -0500 } } To: {pwebster-at-hei.org} } } Subject: [Microscopy] FW: NEGATIVE STAINING ENTEROCOCCI } } } } } } } } } } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } The Microscopy ListServer -- CoSponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver } } On-Line Help http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } } } } } } } _____________________________________________ } } X-from: Randi Olsen } } Sent: 18. mai 2006 16:04 } } To: 'Microscopy-at-microscopy.com' } } Subject: NEGATIVE STAINING ENTEROCOCCI } } } } Dear all, } } We have problems with negative staining of E. Coli, and have tried two } } different approaches with both Uranyl acetate and PTA. } } Without being able to detect the flagellas, we see partly collapsed } } bacterias and lots of dirt (growing bacterias directly on the grids) } } We've also tried embed the E.coli in a mixture of methylcellulose and } } uranyl acetate without any luck. } } We've used carboncoated formvar films on copper grids. } } I enclose the procedure for preparing cells grown on grids, observations } } and some questions form the scientist in charge of this project. } } We might be wrong trying to grow cells directly on grids? } } } } } } Our aim is to prepare grids for TEM with a suitable cell number for } } reliable anaysis without damaging the cells by centrifugation. } } We plan to grow the cells directly onto the grids and have performed the } } following: } } } } Inoculate cultures of enterococci in TSB+0.25%glucose and grow overnight } } at 37*C without shaking. (TSB is a bacterial growth medium made from } } casein and soya peptone). } } Dilute cultures 100-fold in 10 ml growth medium in microtiterplate wells } } containing TEM grids (should contain ca.107 cells/ml). } } Incubate at 37*C without shaking for 1-4 hours. } } Pick up grids at different time-points (i.e. 1h, 2h, 3h and 4h) from the } } culture. } } Dip the grid in particle free water. } } Stain the cells with 0.5% uranyl acetate for 30". } } Rinse the grids gently in particle free water before air-drying them for } } 10-15'. } } } } Observations made: } } 1. there are low cell-numbers on the grids } } 2. there's a lot of stained debris or precipitate on the grids and it } } seems to increase during the incubation. } } } } Questions: } } 1. What cell density is required to obtain one layer of cells on the } } grid but not cells on top of each other? } } 2. Are there ways of increasing the bacterial affinity for the grids? } } 3. Are there ways to reduce the amount of debris on the grids? } } 4. Can grids be incubated on top of a nitrocellulose filter without } } beeing damaged? } } } } } } } } } } Best regards } } } } Randi Olsen } } Department of Electron Microscopy } } University of Tromso } } Norway } } } } } } ==============================Original Headers============================== } } 15, 25 -- From Randi.Olsen-at-fagmed.uit.no Fri May 19 02:42:19 2006 } } 15, 25 -- Received: from mux2.uit.no (mux2.uit.no [129.242.5.252]) } } 15, 25 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id } } k4J7gIuH019283 } } 15, 25 -- for {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Fri, 19 May 2006 02:42:19 -0500 } } 15, 25 -- Received: from eden5.ad.uit.no (eden5.ad.uit.no [129.242.8.11]) } } 15, 25 -- by mux2.uit.no (8.13.6/8.13.6/Mux) with ESMTP id k4J7fx6R032043 } } 15, 25 -- for {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Fri, 19 May 2006 09:42:18 +0200 } } (CEST) } } 15, 25 -- X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 } } 15, 25 -- Content-class: urn:content-classes:message } } 15, 25 -- MIME-Version: 1.0 } } 15, 25 -- Content-Type: text/plain; } } 15, 25 -- charset="us-ascii" } } 15, 25 -- Subject: FW: NEGATIVE STAINING ENTEROCOCCI } } 15, 25 -- Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:42:13 +0200 } } 15, 25 -- Message-ID: {6B3D9BCAC4A0F941AC7625C4589F61FC4F7EFB-at-eden5.ad.uit.no} } } 15, 25 -- X-MS-Has-Attach: } } 15, 25 -- X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: } } 15, 25 -- Thread-Topic: NEGATIVE STAINING ENTEROCOCCI } } 15, 25 -- thread-index: AcZ6bAOqp+ckv3asTc6wZn588yH8jgAFZmYgACWGKyA= } } 15, 25 -- From: "Randi Olsen" {Randi.Olsen-at-fagmed.uit.no} } } 15, 25 -- To: {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} } } 15, 25 -- X-Virus-Scanned: : ok } } 15, 25 -- X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 129.242.5.252 } } 15, 25 -- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit } } 15, 25 -- X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by } } ns.microscopy.com id k4J7gIuH019283 } } ==============================End of - Headers============================== } } } ==============================Original Headers============================== } 12, 19 -- From PWebster-at-hei.org Fri May 19 13:54:08 2006 } 12, 19 -- Received: from hi0sml1.hei.org (House-Ear-Institute-1114861.cust-rtr.pacbell.net [71.136.31.242]) } 12, 19 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k4JIs7kk027881 } 12, 19 -- for {Microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Fri, 19 May 2006 13:54:07 -0500 } 12, 19 -- Received: from 10.10.42.113 ([10.10.42.113]) by hi0sml1.hei.org ([10.10.40.106]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; } 12, 19 -- Fri, 19 May 2006 18:54:07 +0000 } 12, 19 -- User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.3.060209 } 12, 19 -- Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 11:54:06 -0700 } 12, 19 -- Subject: Re: [Microscopy] FW: NEGATIVE STAINING ENTEROCOCCI } 12, 19 -- From: "Webster, Paul" {PWebster-at-hei.org} } 12, 19 -- To: {Randi.Olsen-at-fagmed.uit.no} , {Microscopy-at-microscopy.com} } 12, 19 -- Message-ID: {C093625E.A305%PWebster-at-hei.org} } 12, 19 -- Thread-Topic: [Microscopy] FW: NEGATIVE STAINING ENTEROCOCCI } 12, 19 -- Thread-Index: AcZ7dZp+2UNP6OdoEdqZigANk7Zh7g== } 12, 19 -- In-Reply-To: {200605190747.k4J7lNO9026705-at-ns.microscopy.com} } 12, 19 -- Mime-version: 1.0 } 12, 19 -- Content-type: text/plain; } 12, 19 -- charset="US-ASCII" } 12, 19 -- Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit } ==============================End of - Headers============================== }
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Thanks to all for the advice on sectioning JB 4 resin, with its tendency to fold and curl. I am summarizing the replies below:
1) From Glen McDonald: "For serial sections, which thankfully I haven't had to do with JB-4 in many, many years, I got a tackle box, found in any small parts supplier or fishing supply shop - a clear plastic box with 2x6 or 4x6 array of compartments about 2 inches square. Fill with deionized water or 3% ethanol. As the section comes off of the knife edge, either lay an eyelash across the bottom edge to prevent the curling, or grab with a pair of Dumont #55 forceps. move the eyelash or forceps along with the motion of the section, then lift the section and drop onto the liquid. Place one section in each compartment to fill the tackle box, then mount them by immersing the slide and bringing it up under the section. *Gently* touch one corner of the section to guide into position. If not gently enough, the section will cling to the eyelash and wad up like a used tissue during a bad cold." There were a couple other variations on this technique of lifting slides up underneath the sections. Off to the Bass Pro Shops electron microscopy department for me!
2) Several people described helping the section come off the block by pulling with a forceps on one corner during the cutting stroke or holding it flat with an eyelash or brush, then flicking the section quickly onto a drop of water or water/ethanol mixture. Dexterity required, methinks.
3) Another repeated suggestion was to put the sections onto drops of water with a little ammonium hydroxide in it.
4) As mentioned above, putting sections into water with ethanol, up to 50%, was mentioned several times, sometimes followed by transferring sections to distilled water afterwards.
5) Don't use JB 4. (My favorite.)
6) Tobias Baskin has published his own formulation of BMM resin which apparently sections much better. He uses DTT in the mix and says he is happy to help anyone with this resin. We haven't tried this, yet, but we intend to. Tobias posts to the list often, but if you can't find his email, let me know and I'll forward your questions to him.
7) Humidity should be in the 40-50% range and the block should neither be too wet or too dry or "sectioning is nearly impossible". From Ralph Common. Humidity? In Missouri? Who could have guessed?
8) Related to 7, if the block is too soft, it won't cut well. This one did it for us! Four more hours in the oven solved the worst of the problem. Sections coming off flat and staying flat. These sections did fold when placed on 50% ethanol/water, but did not fold when placed on distilled water. Yaaaaaayy! Thanks, Teri Johnson!!
This was a crash course in JB 4 emergency microtomy. Our client is happy, and Cheryl is tired. Cheryl gets a free lunch at the restaurant of her choice (in Columbia, anyway).
Thanks again to all who responded. You guys are great!
Randy Tindall EM Specialist Electron Microscopy Core Facility---We Do Small Well! W125 Veterinary Medicine University of Missouri Columbia, MO 65211 Tel: (573) 882-8304 Fax: (573) 884-2227 Email: tindallr-at-missouri.edu Web: http://www.emc.missouri.edu
==============================Original Headers============================== 16, 24 -- From TindallR-at-missouri.edu Mon May 22 09:08:06 2006 16, 24 -- Received: from um-exproto9.um.umsystem.edu (um-exproto9.um.umsystem.edu [207.160.151.49]) 16, 24 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k4ME86Yd017418 16, 24 -- for {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Mon, 22 May 2006 09:08:06 -0500 16, 24 -- Received: from UM-EMAIL09.um.umsystem.edu ([207.160.151.31]) by um-exproto9.um.umsystem.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); 16, 24 -- Mon, 22 May 2006 09:08:05 -0500 16, 24 -- Content-class: urn:content-classes:message 16, 24 -- MIME-Version: 1.0 16, 24 -- Content-Type: text/plain; 16, 24 -- charset="us-ascii" 16, 24 -- X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 16, 24 -- Subject: JB 4 sections: Summary (long) 16, 24 -- Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 09:08:05 -0500 16, 24 -- Message-ID: {BA876152E8653240BE8572E897083EE701849FEE-at-UM-EMAIL09.um.umsystem.edu} 16, 24 -- X-MS-Has-Attach: 16, 24 -- X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 16, 24 -- Thread-Topic: JB 4 sections: Summary (long) 16, 24 -- Thread-Index: AcZ9qSVYx+R/zjlKQ7+NK+p6LgTVXA== 16, 24 -- From: "Tindall, Randy D." {TindallR-at-missouri.edu} 16, 24 -- To: {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} 16, 24 -- Cc: "Jensen, Cheryl A." {JensenC-at-missouri.edu} 16, 24 -- X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2006 14:08:05.0976 (UTC) FILETIME=[258FBD80:01C67DA9] 16, 24 -- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 16, 24 -- X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ns.microscopy.com id k4ME86Yd017418 ==============================End of - Headers==============================
We are seeking a biological scientist with experience in electron microscopy and other imaging techniques to direct the Rothamsted Centre for Bioimaging. This state of the art facility opened in 2003 and houses 3 electron microscopes, a confocal microscope, digital imaging and associated image analysis software, a laser capture system and a fully equipped cryo-preparation laboratory. The centre provides a high quality service for a wide range of users both inside and outside the research Institute. The Institute is the largest agricultural research centre in the United Kingdom. The scientific research ranges from studies of genetics, biochemistry, cell biology and soil processes to investigations at the ecosystem and landscape scale.
You will be responsible for developing innovative research projects in collaboration with other staff and for providing scientific and technical advice on bioimaging within institute research programmes. You will need to keep abreast of technologies and instrumentation to ensure that the Centre develops new science and imaging applications and remains at the cutting edge. The post also entails management of two support staff.
Applicants should have a PhD or other higher qualification in a relevant biological science, plus at least 5-7 years' postdoctoral experience in microscopy, imaging or structural biology. You must be well versed in both conventional and cryo-preparative techniques and their application to biological samples. Experience in running a microscopy facility would be an advantage.
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Hello, Does anyone have some experience with the: Balzers RES 010 Rapid Etching System I was wondering if it could be used for coating of samples for SEM as well as etching?
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Gordon Ante Vrdoljak Electron Microscope Lab AOL/IM rakhasha http://nature.berkeley.edu/~gvrdolja 26 Giannini Hall gvrdolja-at-nature.berkeley.edu UC Berkeley phone (510) 642-2085 Berkeley CA 94720-3330 fax (510) 643-6207 cell (510) 290-6793
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Email: roderi_co-at-yahoo.com Name: Roman Derico
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] TEM - Problem with heating specimen holder
Question: Hi! I have a weird problem. I have two heating specimen holders and recently I tried to use them on Jeol JEM200CX TEM (both holders are original parts from Jeol; last time they have been used on this microscope several years ago). When I inserted the holder in microscope, the electron beam disappeared from screen. I moved the holder step-by-step from position I to position II and changed the x and y position systematically (with specimen shifting knobs), but no beam appeared on screen. The beam doesn't appear on screen even when heating holder is empty (with specimen grid removed from it). The strange thing is that hole on heating holder matches exactly in position with holes on specimen holders of other types (it corresponds to specimen position I hole), and all other types of specimen holders work well. Does anyone have idea why beam doesn't pass through heating holder?
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Question: I am doing some experiments in electron microscopy and I am having a hard time removing wrinkles from my resin(thicks) sections. Can you help.
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Email: jacqui.ross-at-auckland.ac.nz Name: Jacqueline Ross
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] Job posting: Lecturer position in Auckland, New Zealand
Question: The Department of Anatomy with Radiology has a vacancy as detailed below. This person will also be associated with the Biomedical Imaging Research Unit. Please see the link to the job description if you are interested.
LECTURER
Anatomy with Radiology
School of Medical Sciences
Faculty of Medical and Health Sciences
The University of Auckland
Vacancy Number A304-06
We require a Lecturer to facilitate imaging research in cellular and molecular imaging and assist in providing for the ongoing development of imaging technologies within the Biomedical Imaging Research Unit and the wider faculty. The appointee will also be expected to provide leadership to both undergraduate and postgraduate teaching programmes, to assist in the development, planning and management of courses and programmes relevant to their field of expertise and to act in a supervisory role to graduate students.
Applications are invited from PhD qualified candidates with a track record of research and teaching in the areas of cellular/molecular imaging and cell and tissue biology.
For further information and to apply online, please visit http://www.vacancies.auckland.ac.nz/ or alternatively call +64 9-373 7599 ext 83000.
Please quote the vacancy number. Applications close 23 June 2006.
The University has an equal opportunities policy and welcomes opportunities policy and welcomes applications from all qualified persons.
I would suggest that you post the details for "foreign" applicants as they are not likely to be acceptable to your solicitation.
There are restrictions on US jobs as well on non-US jobs. I think that each solicitation should identify the nuances of their particular geopolitical/geographic location.
That might save many folks a lot of wasted time. Just MO.
gary g.
At 07:24 PM 5/22/2006, you wrote:
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Okay, I'm a biologist and have absolutely no idea of how to go about setting up a Philips CM-10 for dark field imaging. Now I have a user who needs it and we need some help.
I would appreciate some suggestions for basic settings to get us started such as aperture sizes, spot size, tilt angles, etc.
Thanks in advance, Debby
Debby Sherman, Manager Phone: 765-494-6666 Life Science Microscopy Facility FAX: 765-494-5896 Purdue University E-mail: dsherman-at-purdue.edu S-052 Whistler Building 170 S. University Street West Lafayette, IN 47907 http://www.agriculture.purdue.edu/microscopy
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Hi, I think that operation in dark-field (DF) mode on CM10 is similar to CM12.
Simply, we are using following procedure for beginners in DF on our CM12: -start with well aligned microscope, C2 aperture 100-200 µm, spot size 2, 80kV -insert suitable sample (it should be thin!! e.g. DNA on carbon support film) -adjust eucentric height of the sample -check rotation center and pivot points in bright-field mode -check stigmators -switch to diffraction mode and center diffraction spot -insert and center OBJ aperture -press DF button on CM10 panel -press RESET button under OPCON to center diffraction spot in DF mode -move the diff. spot with Multifunction knobs just behind the rim of the aperture disk on main screen -switch to imaging mode and you should see dark-field image of your sample -focus the sample and adjust illumination with Intensity button
You should try different OBJ apertures to get optimal image in DF with your sample. I hope the procedure will work for you.
Best regards from Prague Oldrich
----------------------------------- Oldrich Benada Institute of Microbiology Acad. Sci CR Videnska 1083 142 20 Prague 4 Czech Republic
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Email: jeger-at-bgu.ac.il Name: Rina Jeger
Organization: Ben Gurion University of the negev
Education: Graduate College
Location: City, State, Country
Question: We have a problem with blocks damaging the diamond knife. Cell cultures grown in flasks and processed without any glass cause us much damage. We don't use molecular sieves. We use Araldite and just the blocks of cells from the flasks cause the damage. Please help!
We had that problem and it turned out to be the microtome rather than the blocks. If bearings are worn out or advance motors are not working properly you can get enough instability in the cutting stroke to cause fine damage to the knife.
Debby
Debby Sherman, Manager Phone: 765-494-6666 Life Science Microscopy Facility FAX: 765-494-5896 Purdue University E-mail: dsherman-at-purdue.edu S-052 Whistler Building 170 S. University Street West Lafayette, IN 47907 http://www3.agriculture.purdue.edu/microscopy
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Hi, I always request that tissue culture flasks/dishes are rinsed with a sterile PBS prior to growing any cell lines to remove any debris that is in there. I had problems like that and I rinsed the flask, spun the content and checked under light microscope. There was plenty of debris, probably of plastic origin. It might ease the problem but it will not eliminate it 100%. If it is really bad I'd use a glass knife. Dorota
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I had this problem. The problem diminished when I switched from smashing osmium ampoules to dissolve the crystals to buying made up solutions.
Dave
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Email: jeger-at-bgu.ac.il Name: Rina Jeger
Organization: Ben Gurion University of the negev
Education: Graduate College
Location: City, State, Country
Question: We have a problem with blocks damaging the diamond knife. Cell cultures grown in flasks and processed without any glass cause us much damage. We don't use molecular sieves. We use Araldite and just the blocks of cells from the flasks cause the damage. Please help!
A simple trick to eliminate smashing osmium vials is to dip the sealed ampoule into liquid nitrogen. This releases the osmium crystals from the glass walls. Then simply break the vial using an ampoule cracker (available through EM supply houses) and pour the osmium crystals into your bottle containing the water.
Debby
Debby Sherman, Manager Phone: 765-494-6666 Life Science Microscopy Facility FAX: 765-494-5896 Purdue University E-mail: dsherman-at-purdue.edu S-052 Whistler Building 170 S. University Street West Lafayette, IN 47907 http://www3.agriculture.purdue.edu/microscopy
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==============================Original Headers============================== 8, 23 -- From dsherman-at-purdue.edu Tue May 23 09:24:30 2006 8, 23 -- Received: from 1061exfe01.adpc.purdue.edu (1061exfe01.adpc.purdue.edu [128.210.63.221]) 8, 23 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k4NEOTLs019419 8, 23 -- for {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Tue, 23 May 2006 09:24:30 -0500 8, 23 -- Received: from exchange.purdue.edu ([128.210.63.234]) by 1061exfe01.adpc.purdue.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); 8, 23 -- Tue, 23 May 2006 10:24:29 -0400 8, 23 -- Received: from 128.210.161.94 ([128.210.161.94]) by EXCH02.purdue.lcl ([128.210.63.237]) via Exchange Front-End Server exch.itap.purdue.edu ([128.210.63.239]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; 8, 23 -- Tue, 23 May 2006 14:24:28 +0000 8, 23 -- User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.3.060209 8, 23 -- Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 10:24:28 -0400 8, 23 -- Subject: Re: [Microscopy] RE: AskAMicroscopist: Help, 8, 23 -- From: Debby Sherman {dsherman-at-purdue.edu} 8, 23 -- To: {David.Patton-at-uwe.ac.uk} , 8, 23 -- "message to: MSA list" {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} 8, 23 -- Message-ID: {C098935C.10B8F%dsherman-at-purdue.edu} 8, 23 -- Thread-Topic: [Microscopy] RE: AskAMicroscopist: Help, 8, 23 -- Thread-Index: AcZ+dJlO16nmvupnEdq7bQARJN08Mg== 8, 23 -- In-Reply-To: {200605231410.k4NEA2OE013293-at-ns.microscopy.com} 8, 23 -- Mime-version: 1.0 8, 23 -- Content-type: text/plain; 8, 23 -- charset="US-ASCII" 8, 23 -- Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit 8, 23 -- X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2006 14:24:29.0124 (UTC) FILETIME=[99F9F840:01C67E74] ==============================End of - Headers==============================
On May 22, 2006, at 8:07 PM, dsherman-at-purdue.edu wrote:
} Okay, I'm a biologist and have absolutely no idea of how to go about } setting } up a Philips CM-10 for dark field imaging. Now I have a user who } needs it } and we need some help. } } I would appreciate some suggestions for basic settings to get us } started } such as aperture sizes, spot size, tilt angles, etc. } Dear Debby, I have only used dark field on our Tecnai scopes, which have a push-button to select dark field, but the process is likely to be the same on the CM10. The settings used will depend on what the user is trying to see. To get an idea, take a typical area of the specimen--or a positive control--and look in diffraction mode with no objective aperture to see where the signal you want is. When dark field is activated, the diffraction pattern shifts by an amount that varies with the tilt angle, so if you increase the tilt from zero, there will be a value that puts the signal you want to see at the position that the unscattered beam occupies for zero tilt, and this will be the tilt angle you want. If you now turn off dark field, insert and center an objective aperture, and turn on dark field, you will see what part of the diffracted beam will constitute the dark field image. The smaller the aperture, the more selective it will be, but the smaller the signal that will get through. In any case, you want an aperture that blocks the unscattered beam, and its maximum size will depend on the dark field tilt angle you chose. If you have crystalline material, the aperture will select signal from only a subset of possible orientations, which could either be what you want or just a nuisance. If the latter, dynamical dark field, AKA hollow-cone illumination, will solve it, but on the Tecnai scopes, it is only available with STEM. Spot size should be selected to give you sufficient signal, and other than that it will have little effect on the DF image unless you are using an extremely small objective aperture, in which case, a smaller spot size number will smear the diffraction rings or spots and lessen the amount and selectivity of the signal. For taking DF images of terbium, a 1 deg tilt and 70 um objective aperture allowed me to see the terbium as bright areas with faint gray corresponding to places where lower-Z material was and very few counts corresponding to blank areas of the grid. Good luck. Yours, Bill Tivol, PhD EM Scientist and Manager Cryo-Electron Microscopy Facility Broad Center, Mail Code 114-96 California Institute of Technology Pasadena CA 91125 (626) 395-8833 tivol-at-caltech.edu
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Hello, I'm seeking reccomendations for a small CO2 incubator to use in an imaging facility to hold samples waiting for their turn on the microscope. This period could be as long as several hours. Any suggestions for 1 cubic foot (0.028 m^3) to 1.4 cubic foot (0.039 m^3) incubator? Have air jacketed been sufficient or does anyone wish they'd purchased a water jacketed incubator instead?
thanks, glen
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Have you got the holder connected to the power supply, temperature sensor, etc?
It's possible the outer part of central furnace is grounded via the the electrical connections - if you don't have it connected up, it may be charging up and deflecting the beam. Even if you have it plugged in, if the holder hasn't been used for several years, there may be a broken connection.
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Email: istillma-at-bidmc.harvard.edu Name: Isaac E Stillman
Organization: BIDMC/Harvard Medical School
Title-Subject: [Filtered] Advice
Question: Hi-
I am a renal pathologist who is purchasing a new instrument for our diagnostic EM unit. The choice has come down to FEI (Phillips) Morgagni vs JEOL JEM-1011. Of course, we would be adding a 2K digital camera. I would be most grateful to hear your thoughts on this choice, off list if you prefer.
Thanks! Isaac E Stillman MD Dept. of Pathology - BIDMC/HMS
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Email: huisheng.jiao-at-gmail.com Name: Ding
Organization: The University of Birmingham
Title-Subject: [Filtered] Suva 124 (R124)?
Question: Does anybody have experience in Suva 124 (R124) as cryogen for rapid freezing?
In the late 80's early 90's M. Parthasarathy, Cornell University, & Theo Muller, BAL-TEC AG published a paper examining using SUVA 124 for cryofixation.
Best,
Al Coritz, Technical Engineer Electron Microscopy Sciences www.emsdiasum.com
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Dear Al, dear Huisheng,
I'v found in the MSA listserver-Archives cf: http://www.microscopy.com/cgi-bin/ReadPrintEmailHTML.pl?filename=9807.txt
a short thread on the possible use of SUVA, in which perhaps also the Article mentioned below has been referenced: It says (for the whole thread use "FREON" or "replacement" as a search phrase): } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } { { { { { { { { { { { { { { { { { { { { { { { { Re: Freon replacements for cryo
Try Muller T, Moser S, Vogt M, Daugherty C & Parasarathy MV (1993). Optimisation and application of jet freezing. Scanning Microscopy 7, 1295-1310.
Using HCFC 124 (SUVA 124-CHClFCF3) with thin titanium supports, cooling rates were obtained similar to those from propane and standard copper supports. This was suggested (I hesitate to plug this !!) in Ryan KP (1992) Cryofixation of tissues for electron microsocpy: a review of plunge cooling methods. Scanning Microsc. 6, 715-743. See next-to-last page , p. 742 in Discussion with Reviewers section..
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In the late 80's early 90's M. Parthasarathy, Cornell University, & Theo Muller, BAL-TEC AG published a paper examining using SUVA 124 for cryofixation.
Best,
Al Coritz, Technical Engineer Electron Microscopy Sciences www.emsdiasum.com
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Micromavens,
Has anyone on the list had recent experience shipping small flowers fixed for EM? Or bringing such samples along as baggage on an airplane? I've done similar things in the past, but not recently, and times and regulations have changed. What's allowed? What's not? This is specifically for flowers (small ones) and flights or courier shipments originating and ending in the USA. Thanks.
Phil -- Philip Oshel Microscopy Facility Supervisor Department of Biology Central Michigan University 024C Brooks Hall Mt. Pleasant, MI 48859 (989) 774-3576
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I've been asked to seek opinions from folks who have used 2 or more of the currently available knife-makers: The GMK triangular knife maker sold by Energy Beam Sciences, and the two "balanced break" knife-makers, the Leica EM KMR 2 and the RMC GKM (an unfortunately confusing model designation). What do folks think of them, and how easily can novices be taught to consistently make good knives usable for thin sectioning? Of these, I've only used the GMK, formally known as the Sorvall brick. Thanks.
Phil -- Philip Oshel Microscopy Facility Supervisor Department of Biology Central Michigan University 024C Brooks Hall Mt. Pleasant, MI 48859 (989) 774-3576
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We're plannig to build a sterotaxic instrument for animal brain studies. It must be adaptable for mouse, rat and rabbit. We're looking for plans, drawings etc. anything beneficial. Does anybody know this kind of materials reachable on internet or another source?
Thanks in advance...
Dr. Necat Yilmaz Mersin University School of Medicine Histology and Embryology Dept. Mersin/TURKEY
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Dear friends I am intersted in the following pdf reprint or xerox if possible (fax is in the signature). As well I use this occasion to remind that we have two schools in Genoa, namely: Fluorescence 19-22 June; Confocal and Multiphoton microscopy 4-7 July. SInce the number of partecipants is limited, please have a check at www.lambs.it or send an e.-mail to me for reservations. All my best Alby
paper ref Squeezing in two photon absorption from a strong coherent beam G. S. Agarwal Optics Communications Pages 190-192, Volume 62, Issue 3, 1 May, 1987.
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We have been using a flatbed scanner for documenting rock core before processing it for other analytical techniques. Now, we want to explore the technique a bit further, possibly towards applied image analysis, but need one last ingredient for better quality scans. We want to use some akin to immersion oil for the interface between rock and flatbed, but want to find something inexpensive, non-toxic and easy to clean. Any thoughts?
Hi, Our lab has been using Leica EM KMR 2 for a few years now. So far we have no problem with the machine. It is reliable and makes consistently good knives. Dorota
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If you feel you would like to use immersion oil, why don't you - non fluorescent immersion oil is pretty cheap from the likes of Zeiss and Cargille, and isn't particularly toxic (the anti-fluorescent variety is a little more toxic). As long as you keep the oil in the centre of the glass platen and don't shut the platen lid down, it's not going anywhere. In fact you can get quite good scans of things like fruit, seeds, leaves, calculators, small toys etc.. using film scanning flatbeds in reflective mode at high resolutions (certainly better than the likes of that from an $80 QX-5 toy microscope). You may need to use Silverfast.com twain software to overcome the scanners reluctance to go above 1,200 dpi with a reflective A4 scan though. Also many scanners are fine focussed a little above the glass platen, as it is assumed you are using film in holders. The superb Epson V750 pro flatbed scanner even has optional little legs on the film holders to help with this. I'm pretty sure that the scanner optics aren't optimised for oil immersion though, it being an air interface on the underneath of the scanner. You won't get good scan results with a cheap LiDE type scanner (no depth of field), you really need a film scanner type flatbed.
You can easily remove immersion oil with 50:50 alcohol water and tissues, in fact I use 50:50 propanol and water regularly on my Canon 9950F and Epson 4990 photo flatbeds (naturally avoiding the platen edges when spraying). This mixture also cleans all our imaging workstation's VDU CRT screens (removing all finger marks). Also try 100% ether for stubborn stains. Fingermarks are a similar oily mess to immersion oil, but it's only non removable scratches from sharp rocks that are the real pain (try using the sample on glass cover slips or slides perhaps ?). You can try using things like thin plastic strips (or thin card with film) to scoop under the sample to remove it, without touching the platen glass.
Keith
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We have been using a flatbed scanner for documenting rock core before processing it for other analytical techniques. Now, we want to explore the technique a bit further, possibly towards applied image analysis, but need one last ingredient for better quality scans. We want to use some akin to immersion oil for the interface between rock and flatbed, but want to find something inexpensive, non-toxic and easy to clean. Any thoughts?
Glycerin comes to mind as being cheap, non-toxic, easier to clean, clear, refractive index ~1.47 and just all around more "friendly" than a traditional refractive index liquid. I've never used it, but it comes to mind as something I have seen mentioned as usable for immersion media. There are lots of household liquids that you might also consider, vegetable oil, olive oil, and mineral oil come to mind.
Good Luck, Bryan Bandli
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You could try water as well. Glycerol can be diluted in it. We regularly use water or glycerol immersion and it works great with special water/glycerol immersion objectives.
On a scanner in reflected mode, oil can really shine sometimes though (particularly at oil/air interfaces). Some vegetable oils such as corn oil also evaporate to leave a very hard resin residue that can't easily be removed (naturally immersion oil doesn't) - so the glass must be cleaned well afterwards. If your sample is huge (6 inches or more) I would have thought any cheap clear mineral oil would be ideal (there are plenty to chose from, even baby oil). On a flat polished sample you shouldn't need much oil.
If a sample is very very thin (we used annular saws with our hard human bone samples and ground the surfaces flat - so I'm thinking along those lines) - and you can get some light through it (or you are looking at something like loose soil particles), running the scanner in transmission film scan mode might work. You have more than half a centimetre or so between the platen glass and the film scanner lid with an Epson 4990 photo, so you can get a thin sheet of glass (e.g. slide thickness) and a thin sample in there. Samples in oil appear to scan better in this film scan mode than in reflected mode, particularly at air/oil surfaces.
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Michael,
Glycerin comes to mind as being cheap, non-toxic, easier to clean, clear, refractive index ~1.47 and just all around more "friendly" than a traditional refractive index liquid. I've never used it, but it comes to mind as something I have seen mentioned as usable for immersion media. There are lots of household liquids that you might also consider, vegetable oil, olive oil, and mineral oil come to mind.
Good Luck, Bryan Bandli
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Normal mineral oil from the drug store has RI 1.51. I would try it on a glass surface other than the scanner bed first, to make sure that you don't get moire patterns. Also, try various cleaning methods. I think that wiping it dry first then using either Windex or rubbing alcohol should do the trick.
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Hi Mike, I have been exploring and having success using a flatbed scanner for particle analysis, but actually started out in this endeavor by scanning rocks and rock cores. We now use an Epson XL 1640 scanner, which has a focus function, essentially allowing us to get right on the surface of the samples. However, a pretty flat cut is needed to get overall excellent quality. I found that this works much better than greasing up the bed with oils, glycerin or other sticky stuff. We used a thin plastic sheet (same material as thin clear view-foils) to protect the glass from the rocks. As a side note, I too saw some strange artifacts with oils, which could (?) be due to "internal" reflections or interference patterns between the glass-plastic or micro-bubbles on or close the sample surface. My major concern was contaminating the samples with oils, especially when doing trace element work or isotope analysis for age dating purposes of the rock cores. Not that the oil itself would be the major culprit, but more the rock dust flying around everywhere in the cutting lab sticking to the greasy surfaces. Rock cores sometimes have oil on them from the drilling process and is usually washed off with sulfo. However, the porosity of the sample may contribute to deeper contamination, especially is if the sample shows cracks or micro-fractures. I had to consider this for archival purposes and potential future analysis on the same samples as new technologies emerge.
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Question: Good Afternoon,
I am looking for comment's in regards to embedding in Lowicryl HM-20 in the Leica AFS. I have done some reading, but have never attempted it before. We will be using HPF-AFSyeast samples at first. Fixative's will be 2% Gluteraldehyde/0.5% Uranyl Acetate in acetone (for morphology) and a 0.1% Gluteraldehyde/0.1% Uranyl acetate in acetone. My question's are:
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We are using the Leica EM KMR2 without problems. It is easy to learn and to use and is a reliable instrument.
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My answer will deal with confocal microscopy: I use to insert my negative control and choose the lasers and detection settings so that I get no signal. Then I insert my samples and won't change the settings. To compare fluorescence intensities, I use to draw a profile line and compare the peaks (maximum intensities). I do it because I observe compact homogeneous bodies, but I suppose I would draw a ROI in the case I had to compare the total intensity of cell cytoplasm for example. It all depends on what and how you measure, there is no general rule I think, it must be adapted to be as "ethical" (yes again ;-)) as possible.
regards,
Stéphane
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I have a triple labeling in fluorescence (green-red-blue), but I take pictures in epifluorescence with a B/W camera, which is more sensitive than the colour camera. Now for presentation purposes I would like to give colours to my B/W pictures in the 3 colours originally used and (perhaps) merge them in the end. What is the procedure in Photoshop?
Stéphane
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It's a bit of a fag in Photoshop - much easier in MetaMorph or ImagePro Plus (and probably in ImageJ/NIHImage for poor people). Photoshop also gets cross with 12-bit B&W images (they go black and it's not worth bringing the image back with contrast adjustment) so export at 8-bit (256 grey) TIF.
I'll email the complete pdf on 'how to do it' that includes VDU screen dumps. For the listserver the basic text is appended below. I have the Bio-Rad PIC plug-ins for Photoshop if anyone would like them.
Keith ---------------------------------------------------------- Dr Keith J Morris Imaging Facilities Manager Cell Biology Division Institute of Ophthalmology University College London 11-43 Bath Street London EC1V 9EL
Text from the pdf file 'Colouring B&W pictures in photoshop'
Creating Combined RGB Bio-Rad images in Photoshop
(You may need the Bio-Rad Plugin for *.PIC files otherwise use *.TIF) Load images (via import, Bio-Rad PIC Import) Convert both to RGB (Image, Mode,RGB Color) Find the image size (Image, Image Size – 1024x1024 in this case)
Create a new Image for the blue channel (1024x1024 – black) File, New (White, 1024x1024 – it must be the same size as the red and green images) Select Color Picker (left menu – black/white boxes) and change the foreground colour to black (click OK). Right Click over the new image and select all.
Select Edit,Fill and click OK. Image will now be black (the unused blue channel).
Select Windows, Show Channels (to see RGB channels for all images)
Go to the black (blue) image (right click to select all if necessary, and Edit, Copy Select the Green Channel Image and highlight its blue channel
Select Edit, Paste and the blue channel is ‘removed’ on the target image.
Repeat this pasting the black into the red channel (leaving the Green channel left)
Now right click select all over the ‘red channel’ B&W image. Select Edit, Copy
Reselect the ‘green channel’ image (that has black over its red and blue channels).
Select the blackened red channel in the ‘green’ image. Now Edit, Paste (and the red channel is pasted into the red channel of the green image creating a Red and Green combined RGB image (black for blue).
I also adjusted the Image, Adjust, brightness/Contrast for both the red and green images prior to combining them. You must select the red or green channel when adjusting. Once finished select and copy the red image into the red channel of the green image to combine as before. This time the green brightness/contrast has been reduce and the red increased. See resulting image below and compare with the unadjusted original intensities above.
Author: Dr Keith J Morris, Imaging Facility Manager, Cell Biology Division, the institute of Ophthalmology, 11-43 Bath Street, London EC1V 9EL.. Telephone: 020 7608 4050. Email: keith.morris-at-ucl.ac.uk.
Please advise me of any errors found and/or difficulties encountered when using this help document.
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Dear listers,
I have a triple labeling in fluorescence (green-red-blue), but I take pictures in epifluorescence with a B/W camera, which is more sensitive than the colour camera. Now for presentation purposes I would like to give colours to my B/W pictures in the 3 colours originally used and (perhaps) merge them in the end. What is the procedure in Photoshop?
Stéphane
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It's not really possible to get quantitative measurements of epi-fluorescence. The gel fluorescence standards commonly used are simply to check that your camera/detector and electronics are genuinely linear in response (something quite important to know) - they are no use as standards for calibrating fluorescence within the cell (although you can use things like BCECF in solution at known pH's to roughly calibrate intracellular pH). To properly calibrate cellular fluorescence you need standards that are essentially known concentrations and masses of labelled protein etc.. within cells, not something that's easy to get. You will always have problems with laser power variation, differential bleaching, uneven inconsistent labelling, internal quenching etc.. so you will probably never be able to say that one cell has exactly twice the mass (total pixel brightness) or concentration (mean pixel brightness) of a given protein compared to another. However it is reasonable to assume that a very brightly labelled cell has definitely more labelled fluorochrome in it than a poorly fluorescent cell or intracellular region (and you could say something like 'suggesting' x times concentration etc.). Also try measuring something simple like concentrations of fluorescent beads to see how (badly) the image analysis results work out (these do have the advantage that you can actually count them as well).
You will probably have to use regions of interest to include darker as well as bright areas if comparing regions, plus you can use peak values as described by Stephane (but often the bright sample fluorescence area has to be very clearly defined to one region to get this to work). You can also try things like what % of the cell is brighter than a set grey level. Co-localisation (i.e. the % of bright pixels in both the red and green channel across the cell) is also useful. Generally each set of samples require their own image analysis protocols depending on what you want to find out, plus you need simple stats to say if the difference is significant to 95% level.
When looking at optical density, this can be more easily calibrated - here you are measuring optical white light transmission though a sample. So you can create black (metal disk), white (free space) and have a selection of known density materials like polythene (grey) etc. in the image. You can therefore assign a grey level to a particular density. We have used this to estimate things like bone density, assuming your can get very evenly sliced samples.
Keith ---------------------------------------------------------- Dr Keith J Morris Imaging Facilities Manager Cell Biology Division Institute of Ophthalmology University College London 11-43 Bath Street London EC1V 9EL
Hello, I've been processing some small plant roots for scanning electron microscopy. I use Glutaraldehyde fixation followed by 0.8% KFerrocyanide and 1% OsO4 - otherwise standard fixation. I get great root preservation, but I've found that the root hairs all look very collapsed. I can send a picture if you like, but was wondering if anyone had experience in this area.
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Have you considered cryo-SEM? This would seem to the ideal method - maintaining the sample in its hydrated state and avoiding mechanical damage that critical point drying can cause some delicate samples.
This is quite an old image and at one time (now lost) there was a companion image showing the clean surface after controlled etching (sublimation) of the ice.
Declaration of commercial interest: Quorum Technologies are manufacturers of the PP2000 and PP2000T cryo-SEM systems.
Best regards,
Mike Wombwell Quorum Technologies Newhaven, East Sussex, UK Tel: +44(0)1273 510535 Fax: +44(0)1273 510536 mike.wombwell-at-quorumtech.com http://www.quorumtech.com E & O E
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Hello, I've been processing some small plant roots for scanning electron microscopy. I use Glutaraldehyde fixation followed by 0.8% KFerrocyanide and 1% OsO4 - otherwise standard fixation. I get great root preservation, but I've found that the root hairs all look very collapsed. I can send a picture if you like, but was wondering if anyone had experience in this area.
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] FDA
Question: Dear listers, some time ago I decided to distinguish between dead and living cells in plant roots using FDA (fluorescein diacetate) combined with PI (propidium iodide). But it seems cells showing the brigtest FDA fluorescence are those that are prone to die, forming strange fluorescing vesicles or even their whole cell content fluoresces. But haven't found enough supporting information in literature. Does any of you have similar experience (or any citations) showing the activity of esterases would more refer to physiological changes (let's say connected with cell death) of the cell than just to its viability? Thanks in advance for your help,
I don't know the real answer to your question but I suspect it's something to do with the toxicity of propidium iodide. Do you use PI and FDA at the same time? PI on it's own is a fairly reliable live/dead marker in Arabidopsis roots when used at 5 micrograms/ml. Living cells exclude it and so remain outlined while dead cells fill with the stain and fluoresce brightly. The problem with PI is that it will kill the cells if they are left too long in it (greater than 30-45 minutes). Maybe that is why the wierd FDA effect. What happens when you use the stains on their own?
Regards, John.
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} Email: lenoska1-at-seznam.cz } Name: Zuzana Lenochova } } Organization: Charles UNiversity in Prague, Czech Republic } } Title-Subject: [Filtered] FDA } } Question: Dear listers, } some time ago I decided to distinguish between dead and living cells in plant roots using FDA (fluorescein diacetate) combined with PI (propidium iodide). But it seems cells showing the brigtest FDA fluorescence are those that are prone to die, forming strange fluorescing vesicles or even their whole cell content fluoresces. But haven't found enough supporting information in literature. Does any of you have similar experience (or any citations) showing the activity of esterases would more refer to physiological changes (let's say connected with cell death) of the cell than just to its viability? } Thanks in advance for your help, } } Zuzana } } }
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As Keith implies, it is quite easy to do the kind of work you want with ImageJ. There is a function under the Image Menu} Colors, called RGB merge. Using that, you can assign any b/w image to one of the three color channels, or to none. This does, however, presuppose that your three images are properly aligned. There is also a plugin for ImageJ that will allow you to align the images.
To replace a single b/w image with a colored one, you can use the ImageJ LookUpTables, which will remap the 8-bit gray scale to a color of your choosing.
Check with me if you need more information.
Joel
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I have the } Bio-Rad PIC plug-ins for Photoshop if anyone would like them. } } Keith } ---------------------------------------------------------- } Dr Keith J Morris } Imaging Facilities Manager } Cell Biology Division } Institute of Ophthalmology } University College London } 11-43 Bath Street } London EC1V 9EL } } Tel: 020 7608 4050 } Fax: 020 7608 4034 } email: keith.morris-at-ucl.ac.uk } } } Text from the pdf file 'Colouring B&W pictures in photoshop' } } Creating Combined RGB Bio-Rad images in Photoshop } } (You may need the Bio-Rad Plugin for *.PIC files otherwise use *.TIF) } Load images (via import, Bio-Rad PIC Import) Convert both to RGB } (Image, Mode,RGB Color) Find the image size (Image, Image Size – } 1024x1024 in this case) } } Create a new Image for the blue channel (1024x1024 – black) } File, New (White, 1024x1024 – it must be the same size as the red and } green images) Select Color Picker (left menu – black/white boxes) and } change the foreground colour to black (click OK). Right Click over the } new image and select all. } } Select Edit,Fill and click OK. Image will now be black (the unused } blue channel). } } Select Windows, Show Channels (to see RGB channels for all images) } } Go to the black (blue) image (right click to select all if necessary, } and Edit, Copy Select the Green Channel Image and highlight its blue } channel } } Select Edit, Paste and the blue channel is ‘removed’ on the target } image. } } Repeat this pasting the black into the red channel (leaving the Green } channel left) } } Now right click select all over the ‘red channel’ B&W image. } Select Edit, Copy } } Reselect the ‘green channel’ image (that has black over its red and } blue channels). } } Select the blackened red channel in the ‘green’ image. } Now Edit, Paste (and the red channel is pasted into the red channel of } the green image creating a Red and Green combined RGB image (black } for blue). } } I also adjusted the Image, Adjust, brightness/Contrast for both the } red and green images prior to combining them. You must select the red } or green channel when adjusting. Once finished select and copy the red } image into the red channel of the green image to combine as before. } This time the green brightness/contrast has been reduce and the red } increased. See resulting image below and compare with the unadjusted } original intensities above. } } Author: Dr Keith J Morris, Imaging Facility Manager, Cell Biology } Division, the institute of Ophthalmology, 11-43 Bath Street, London } EC1V 9EL.. Telephone: 020 7608 4050. Email: } keith.morris-at-ucl.ac.uk. } } Please advise me of any errors found and/or difficulties encountered } when using this help document. } } } } } } -----Original Message----- } X-from: nizets2-at-yahoo.com [mailto:nizets2-at-yahoo.com] } Sent: 26 May 2006 09:33 } To: keith.morris-at-ucl.ac.uk } Subject: [Microscopy] coloring B/W pictures with photoshop } } } } } ---------------------------------------------------------------------- } ------ The Microscopy ListServer -- CoSponsor: The Microscopy Society } of America To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- } http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver On-Line Help } http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } ---------------------------------------------------------------------- } ------ } } Dear listers, } } I have a triple labeling in fluorescence } (green-red-blue), but I take pictures in } epifluorescence with a B/W camera, which is more } sensitive than the colour camera. Now for presentation } purposes I would like to give colours to my B/W } pictures in the 3 colours originally used and } (perhaps) merge them in the end. } What is the procedure in Photoshop? } } Stéphane } } } } ==============================Original } Headers============================== 30, 27 -- From } keith.morris-at-ucl.ac.uk Fri May 26 03:59:23 2006 30, 27 -- Received: } from vscani-e2.ucl.ac.uk (vscani-e2.ucl.ac.uk [144.82.108.34]) 30, 27 } -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id } k4Q8xNJN004178 30, 27 -- for {Microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Fri, 26 May } 2006 03:59:23 -0500 30, 27 -- Received: from cell23.ioo.ucl.ac.uk } ([144.82.134.123] helo=keithhigrade) 30, 27 -- by vscani-e.ucl.ac.uk } with esmtp (Exim 4.60) 30, 27 -- (envelope-from } {keith.morris-at-ucl.ac.uk} ) 30, 27 -- id 1FjYAA-0002GJ-7X 30, 27 -- } for Microscopy-at-microscopy.com; Fri, 26 May 2006 09:59:18 +0100 30, 27 } -- From: "Keith J Morris" {keith.morris-at-ucl.ac.uk} 30, 27 -- To: } {Microscopy-at-microscopy.com} 30, 27 -- Subject: RE: [Microscopy] } colouring B/W pictures with Photoshop 30, 27 -- Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 } 09:59:17 +0100 30, 27 -- Message-ID: } {000301c680a2$ab5a58c0$7b865290-at-keithhigrade} 30, 27 -- MIME-Version: } 1.0 30, 27 -- Content-Type: text/plain; 30, 27 -- } charset="iso-8859-1" 30, 27 -- X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 } 30, 27 -- X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 30, } 27 -- Thread-Index: AcaAnvRj1DvV6/0CTNSms6Zt0Pb/DAAARgAw 30, 27 -- } In-Reply-To: {200605260832.k4Q8WZNd000976-at-ns.microscopy.com} 30, 27 -- } X-UCL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the UCL Helpdesk, } helpdesk-at-ucl.ac.uk for more information 30, 27 -- X-UCL-MailScanner: } Found to be clean 30, 27 -- X-UCL-MailScanner-From: } keith.morris-at-ucl.ac.uk 30, 27 -- X-Spam-Status: No 30, 27 -- } Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 30, 27 -- X-MIME-Autoconverted: from } quoted-printable to 8bit by ns.microscopy.com id k4Q8xNJN004178 } ==============================End of - } Headers==============================
Joel B. Sheffield, Ph.D. Biology Department, Temple University 1900 North 12th Street Philadelphia, PA 19122 jbs-at-temple.edu (215) 204 8839, fax (215) 204 0486 http://astro.temple.edu/~jbs
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I would like to transfer 16 bit sun raster files into TIF format without loosing the resolution !. Anybody aware of a technique/software which can do that?
Regards,
Jafar
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Folks- Can anyone advise us who can service older ultramicrotomes in the Midwest? We have Sorval MT-2 and MT-2B and LKB Ultrotome III ultramicrotomes. Carol Heckman -- __ Carol A. Heckman, Ph.D. Professor of Biological Sciences Director, Center for Microscopy & Microanalysis Bowling Green State University, Bowling Green, OH 43403 fax: (419) 372-2024 email: heckman-at-bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/biology/facilities/MnM ___________________________________________________________________________
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This is a great email to bring back up the ethics of imaging!
What *color* was really collected? For a merged image the interpretation is great using color as described in the follow up emai. BUT, for single image display on a computer (PDF or Powerpoint) the information content is much more accessible to the viewer as grayscale than when displayed in color.
Why? RGB. When you have a grayscale image on the monitor it uses all three equally to make the image. When you have only the R channel on, the intensity is cut by 1/3. The issue there becomes detectable differences. Its a simple exercise. And I encourage everyone to try it: Take a grayscale image (any will do, assuming it has a close to normal distributed histogram) and then make it one color (just Red for example). For many of you this is a normal and obvious statement.
If you are overlaying color it makes sense to convert to color. If you are collecting an image with a color camera, and it is looking at the color (is it a real color or just the filtered spectrum defined by the bandpass filters), okay. But why reduce the information displayed in a single channel.
Maybe my personal bias against such practices as displaying the single chanel GFP label as green is unjust, but I ask: If displaying as a color makes it more difficult to see the information in the micrograph, Why do it? (suggesting that it is less confusing for the viewer doesn't cut it - that's what figure legends and labels do very successfully).
-Geoff
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Dear listers,
I have a triple labeling in fluorescence (green-red-blue), but I take pictures in epifluorescence with a B/W camera, which is more sensitive than the colour camera. Now for presentation purposes I would like to give colours to my B/W pictures in the 3 colours originally used and (perhaps) merge them in the end. What is the procedure in Photoshop?
Stéphane
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==============================Original Headers============================== 18, 30 -- From Geoffrey_Williams-at-brown.edu Fri May 26 11:21:21 2006 18, 30 -- Received: from pyxis.services.brown.edu (pyxis.services.brown.edu [128.148.106.154]) 18, 30 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k4QGLLcJ008286 18, 30 -- for {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Fri, 26 May 2006 11:21:21 -0500 18, 30 -- Received: from ex-gateway2-out.AD.Brown.Edu (ex-gateway2.ad.brown.edu [128.148.21.53]) 18, 30 -- by pyxis.services.brown.edu (Switch-3.1.8/Switch-3.1.7/) with ESMTP id k4QGLI95019717 18, 30 -- for {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Fri, 26 May 2006 12:21:18 -0400 (EDT) 18, 30 -- Received: from mail1.AD.Brown.Edu ([128.148.21.30]) by ex-gateway2-out.AD.Brown.Edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); 18, 30 -- Fri, 26 May 2006 12:21:18 -0400 18, 30 -- X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 18, 30 -- Content-class: urn:content-classes:message 18, 30 -- MIME-Version: 1.0 18, 30 -- Content-Type: text/plain; 18, 30 -- charset="iso-8859-1" 18, 30 -- Subject: RE: [Microscopy] coloring B/W pictures with photoshop 18, 30 -- Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 12:21:18 -0400 18, 30 -- Message-ID: {A1A84D541C161C4C988B4E0FB38F5A0F032FD36A-at-MAIL1.AD.Brown.Edu} 18, 30 -- X-MS-Has-Attach: 18, 30 -- X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 18, 30 -- Thread-Topic: [Microscopy] coloring B/W pictures with photoshop 18, 30 -- Thread-Index: AcaAnuwFVGcNirdkTqCZhP6k/m6woQAP8BCZ 18, 30 -- References: {200605260832.k4Q8WNVh000630-at-ns.microscopy.com} 18, 30 -- From: "Williams, Geoffrey" {Geoffrey_Williams-at-brown.edu} 18, 30 -- To: {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} 18, 30 -- X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 May 2006 16:21:18.0824 (UTC) FILETIME=[6B528E80:01C680E0] 18, 30 -- X-Brown-Proofpoint: Not Infected 18, 30 -- X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlx=-1 adultscore=0 adjust=0 reason=safe engine=3.1.0-06050800 definitions=3.0.0-06052603 18, 30 -- X-Brown-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlx=-1 adultscore=0 adjust=0 reason=safe engine=3.1.0-06050800 definitions=3.0.0-06052603 18, 30 -- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 18, 30 -- X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ns.microscopy.com id k4QGLLcJ008286 ==============================End of - Headers==============================
Dear Stephane, the simplest manner in Photoshop is to open all 3 images then convert 1 to RGB and paste in the other channels. Some acquisition software automatically exports monochrome images as 24-bit RGB, saving you this step. Different steps may be needed for the various formats in which captured images are saved.
In Photoshop, view the Channels window, If you have the "red" image converted to RGB, select its "green" channel, then go to the "green" image, 'Select All', 'Copy', return to the green channel in the target image and 'Paste'. Repeat with the "Blue" channel and you are done. Now, select the "RGB" channel at the top of the Channels window to observe the merged image. Open the Levels command to adjust histogram stretch and gamma for each channel in the merged image (be certain to note gamma changes in methods or caption). If you have 16-bit images, John and Christian Russ have available a plugin to scale from 16-bit to 8-bit.
Regards Glen
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On May 26, 2006, at 1:30 AM, nizets2-at-yahoo.com wrote:
} Dear listers, } } I have a triple labeling in fluorescence } (green-red-blue), but I take pictures in } epifluorescence with a B/W camera, which is more } sensitive than the colour camera. Now for presentation } purposes I would like to give colours to my B/W } pictures in the 3 colours originally used and } (perhaps) merge them in the end. } What is the procedure in Photoshop? } } Stéphane
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Jafar F. Al-Sharab asked: "I would like to transfer 16 bit sun raster files into TIF format without loosing the resolution!"
Jafar, what application generated your 16 bit Sun raster files?
Everything I have seen concerning '.ras' files specifies a header structure that does NOT include a 16 bit per pixel option. For example, the excellent site at the University of Rochester's EE site (http://www.earth.rochester.edu/ees254/gmt/doc/html/GMT_Docs/node119.html) lists the ras_depth member of the header structure as having values "Depth (1, 8, 24, 32 bits) of pixel". Likewise, the SunRasterDecoder at the Code Project site (http://www.codeproject.com/bitmap/SUN_Raster_File_Decoder.asp) has also notes that ras-depth is "Depth (1, 8, 24 or 32 bits) of each pixel".
If there is an updated specification or your application "cheats" in handling the format (for instance using 16 bits of a 24 bit pixel, I suspect most of the free converters will not work.
Jafar, if you send me directly (not to the list, please) a small (e.g. 512x512) 16 bit sun raster file, I'll try the tools I have and let you know if any work...
Best regards, John Minter jrminter_at_rochester.rr.com (replace the _at_ with -at-; I'm hoping to avoid the address harvesting bots and minimize spam. My apologies for the inconvenience)
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There is a very good FREE Image converter program called Imagemagick which I use on Unix, Linux, & Mac's. It has also been ported to Windoze.
http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php
If you go to the above site you will be able to download a version for SUN which should let you do the job.
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On Fri, 26 May 2006 11:31:37 -0600, {zaluzec-at-aaem.amc.anl.gov} wrote:
} There is a very good FREE Image converter program called } Imagemagick which I use on Unix, Linux, & Mac's. It } has also been ported to Windoze. } } http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php } } If you go to the above site you will be able to download } a version for SUN which should let you do the job.
In addition to the excellent ImageMagick toolset Mr. Zaluzec has just recommended, I'd like to encourage you to investigate the Gimp ( http://www.gimp.org ). It is an open-source project intended to provide functionality very similar to Photoshop. It has been ported to just about everything: I use it daily on Mac OS X (under Apple's X11), and prior to that I used it on both Solaris and Windows 98 and XP.
It is a downright invaluable tool, and would still be invaluable at twice the price. Having said that, it's also free, and free is a property that excuses many faults (even though there aren't many faults to object to here!). Precompiled binaries are available at the Gimp web site as well.
It is well worth checking out, especially for those in academia with limited budgets for image manipulation software. Between ImageMagick and the Gimp, you can do an astonishing amount of work.
Hope that helps!
-skod
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Thanks Geoffrey for this remark. In the present case the merging of the 3 colors is meaningful because I look for colocalisation (I will add "or not", to remain ethically objective ;-)), but your remark makes sense. Please could you answer to the following considerations?
- What if you make color photo films of TIFF images to project them (classical slide projectors)? - What if you project a TIFF image with a projector directly coupled to the computer instead of a monitor? - Would it be ethically correct to increase the intensity of one color 3 fold in order to compensate the decrease due to RGB pictures displayed on a monitor?
Stéphane
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The issue there becomes detectable } differences. Its a simple exercise. And I } encourage everyone to try it: Take a grayscale image } (any will do, assuming it has a close to normal } distributed histogram) and then make it one color } (just Red for example). For many of you this is a } normal and obvious statement. } } If you are overlaying color it makes sense to } convert to color. If you are collecting an image } with a color camera, and it is looking at the color } (is it a real color or just the filtered spectrum } defined by the bandpass filters), okay. But why } reduce the information displayed in a single } channel. } } Maybe my personal bias against such practices as } displaying the single chanel GFP label as green is } unjust, but I ask: } If displaying as a color makes it more difficult to } see the information in the micrograph, Why do it? } (suggesting that it is less confusing for the viewer } doesn't cut it - that's what figure legends and } labels do very successfully). } } -Geoff } } } -----Original Message----- } X-from: nizets2-at-yahoo.com [mailto:nizets2-at-yahoo.com] } Sent: Fri 5/26/2006 4:32 AM } To: Williams, Geoffrey } Subject: [Microscopy] coloring B/W pictures with } photoshop } } } } } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } The Microscopy ListServer -- CoSponsor: The } Microscopy Society of America } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- } http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver } On-Line Help } http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } Dear listers, } } I have a triple labeling in fluorescence } (green-red-blue), but I take pictures in } epifluorescence with a B/W camera, which is more } sensitive than the colour camera. 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Question: Hi,
We have a SIS Megaview III camera attached to our Tecnai and we use AnalySIS to record the images. Since we only have a full version of AnalySIS installed on the microscope's PC we usually treat ours images with ImageJ. ImageJ can perfectly read the TIFF images but is unable to read the spatial calibration of the image. Do you know how this spatial calibration is written in the image ?
I Googled GSED and couldn't find anything related to SEM, so for those of us who are acronym-challenged, could you (or someone else on the list) please define GSED?
Thanks, Bryan Bandli MVA Scientific Consultants
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GSED = Gaseous Secondary Electron Detector. It is the secondary electron detector of the ESEM which works at poor vacuum unlike a conventional SE detector.
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I Googled GSED and couldn't find anything related to SEM, so for those of us who are acronym-challenged, could you (or someone else on the list) please define GSED?
Thanks, Bryan Bandli MVA Scientific Consultants
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You cannot use GSED in high vac; it is only for low vac. I have a XL30 ESEM and never use the backscatter detector (BSD) since installation six years ago for morphological study, except using it to compare with GSED at the very beginning. A GSED produces images a lot better than a BSD. If I were you, the pick would have been a GSED. If you need a BSD for another reason, then that is another matter to consider. As for software, you don't have to worry; just put in a new GSED and off you go. I have checked with my service engineer.
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Question: Hello I' d like to know is GSED is used in ESEM with tungesten filament and if it can be used in both low and high vacuum mode because the BSD in my XL30 TMP instrument is damaged and I want to know iif it is best to buy back scatter detectors or GSED and is it need a new software.
The TIFF standard allows for spatial resolution data to be saved in the fields XResolution (no of pixels per measurement unit in X dir) and YResolution (no of pixels per measurement unit in Y dir). The measurement unit data is contained in the ResolutionUnit field (usually inch or cm). From these you should be able to calculate the pixel size, magn or image width. There are a number of free TIFF tag viewers available, for example, http://www.awaresystems.be/imaging/tiff/astifftagviewer.html, or just Google 'tiff tag viewer' . Hope this helps.
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} Name: Eric Leroy } } Organization: CNRS - LCMTR } } Title-Subject: [Filtered] AnalySIS TIFF images } } Question: Hi, } } We have a SIS Megaview III camera attached to our Tecnai and we use } AnalySIS to record the images. Since we only have a full version of } AnalySIS installed on the microscope's PC we usually treat ours images } with ImageJ. ImageJ can perfectly read the TIFF images but is unable to } read the spatial calibration of the image. Do you know how this spatial } calibration is written in the image ? } } Thanks } } Eric } } --------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } ==============================Original Headers============================== } 9, 12 -- From zaluzec-at-microscopy.com Tue May 30 08:08:56 2006 } 9, 12 -- Received: from [206.69.208.22] (mac22.zaluzec.com [206.69.208.22]) } 9, 12 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP } id k4UD8s0s005952 } 9, 12 -- for {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Tue, 30 May 2006 08:08:56 } -0500 } 9, 12 -- Mime-Version: 1.0 } 9, 12 -- X-Sender: (Unverified) } 9, 12 -- Message-Id: {p06110404c0a1f45139b1-at-[206.69.208.22]} } 9, 12 -- Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 08:08:49 -0500 } 9, 12 -- To: microscopy-at-microscopy.com } 9, 12 -- From: eric.leroy-at-glvt-cnrs.fr (by way of MicroscopyListserver) } 9, 12 -- Subject: viaWWW: AnalySIS TIFF images } 9, 12 -- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" } ==============================End of - Headers==============================
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We have the same system. The easiest way to keep the magnification in my pictures I found is to "burn" the scale bar into the image (on your screen it is just in overlay) before saving the picture in jpg or TIFF format. It is a little bit a pain, I would appreciate a method to automatize it, but I don't know if it is possible (I work only for 8 months with this system). It is clear that the pixels "behind" the scale bar will be burned and the information lost.
- Choose "Image" in the Menu bar --} Scale bar... --} draw into overlay Then save your image
Sorry if I misunderstood your question and did not answer it (ask it in french it will be clearer ;-)).
Stéphane
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-at-Eric: There is a viewer that can be downloaded from the SIS webpage[1], which can handle the image files (and databases) created with the full version. This viewer also shows you the data listed in the TIFF header.
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Thank you for the information. I downloaded the software you told me but unfortunately, the information written int Xresolution tag is allways 200 and the ResolutionUnit is 0. So it seems that the saptial calibration is stored elsewhere.
Best regards
Eric
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} Eric, } } The TIFF standard allows for spatial resolution data to be saved in the } fields XResolution (no of pixels per measurement unit in X dir) and } YResolution (no of pixels per measurement unit in Y dir). The measurement } unit data is contained in the ResolutionUnit field (usually inch or cm). } From these you should be able to calculate the pixel size, magn or image } width. There are a number of free TIFF tag viewers available, for example, } http://www.awaresystems.be/imaging/tiff/astifftagviewer.html, or just } Google 'tiff tag viewer' . } Hope this helps. } } David Vowles } Electron Microscope Unit } Dept of Materials Science and Metallurgy } University of Cambridge } Pembroke St Cambridge } UK CB2 3QZ } Tel: +44 (0)1223 334325 } Fax: +44 (0)1223 334567 } Email: djv23-at-cam.ac.uk } } } } } Name: Eric Leroy } } } } Organization: CNRS - LCMTR } } } } Title-Subject: [Filtered] AnalySIS TIFF images } } } } Question: Hi, } } } } We have a SIS Megaview III camera attached to our Tecnai and we use } } AnalySIS to record the images. Since we only have a full version of } } AnalySIS installed on the microscope's PC we usually treat ours images } } with ImageJ. ImageJ can perfectly read the TIFF images but is unable to } } read the spatial calibration of the image. Do you know how this spatial } } calibration is written in the image ? } } } } Thanks } } } } Eric } } } } --------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } } } ==============================Original Headers============================== } } 9, 12 -- From zaluzec-at-microscopy.com Tue May 30 08:08:56 2006 } } 9, 12 -- Received: from [206.69.208.22] (mac22.zaluzec.com [206.69.208.22]) } } 9, 12 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP } } id k4UD8s0s005952 } } 9, 12 -- for {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Tue, 30 May 2006 08:08:56 } } -0500 } } 9, 12 -- Mime-Version: 1.0 } } 9, 12 -- X-Sender: (Unverified) } } 9, 12 -- Message-Id: {p06110404c0a1f45139b1-at-[206.69.208.22]} } } 9, 12 -- Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 08:08:49 -0500 } } 9, 12 -- To: microscopy-at-microscopy.com } } 9, 12 -- From: eric.leroy-at-glvt-cnrs.fr (by way of MicroscopyListserver) } } 9, 12 -- Subject: viaWWW: AnalySIS TIFF images } } 9, 12 -- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" } } ==============================End of - Headers============================== }
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The problem of Eric brings a new question to me: The TEM pictures may be saved in JPG or TIFF formats. I know that TIFF format keeps all the information without compression. But does JPG without compression (quality 12) deteriorates the quality of the picture? I thought that JPG without compression was as good as TIFF.
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Question: [Commercial disclaimer - we make silver enhancement reagents]
Hello Fabio:
Silver enhancement will work on other metals - in our experience, particularly those with an active redox chemistry, or those that are present as nanoparticles.
A good name to search is Gorm Danscher, who is one of the originators of the silver enhancementmethod and has used this, and similar chemistry, to reveal other heavy metals in tissue section (search "Danscher G" on PubMed). I couldn't find any references to cadmium, but he has published several papers on the autometallographic tracing of zinc, which is right above cadmium in the periodic table and would be expected to have similar chemistry:
Danscher, G., and Stoltenberg, M.: Zinc-specific Autometallographic In Vivo Selenium Methods: Tracing of Zinc-enriched (ZEN) Terminals, ZEN Pathways, and Pools of Zinc Ions in a Multitude of Other ZEN Cells. J. Histochem. Cytochem., 53141-153 (2005).
Other papers describe the histochemical tracing of mercury and bismuth using similar techniques.
Hope this helps,
Rick Powell
Dear all,
Is it possible to use a immunogold purpose silver enhancement kit for revealing other heavy metals, such as cadmium, on paraffin or resin sections?
Best wishes
Fabio
Dr. Fabio D'Amico Dept. Biomedical Sciences University of Catania Via Androne 87/a I-95124 Catania ITALY tel/fax +39 095312017 email: f.damico-at-unict.it
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Please be advised that there is no implementation of JPG with lossless compression anywhere in the world that I know of. The last time I saw a program that actually was lossless was in DOS 3.3 almost twenty years ago.
Saving with JPG at a setting of 12 removes data. period
If you load an image and make adjustments and then resave it, the image file will have compression on top of compression. The situation gets worse and worse. JPG is an evil format that is not supported for scientific imaging by the Society for really good reasons. If a system produces a different format, the first time you save it should ALWAYS be to tiff if you want to save it.
JPG is for email and web pages and is good for nothing else
Luckily I don't have strong opinions
John
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At 02:25 AM 5/31/2006, h.dierke-at-tu-braunschweig.de wrote:
} If you save to TIFF file format there is an option you can select in the } "Save..." dialog to burn the overlay into the image data. (The other } option is to convert to 8bit TIFF file, which sometimes may be helpful, } too.)
On our AnalySIS-based systems, "burning in" the overlay also automatically converts the file to 8 bit. The original quantitative image data is lost in the conversion. This gave us fits a few years ago until we found out what was gong on. If I may personify a little, it seems like AnalySIS desperately wants to convert images to 8 bit - the only sure strategy we have found for preserving the 16 bit images is to save them immediately after acquisition, then save again under a different name after any manipulation in AnalySIS.
I should also mention that we are several versions out of date on the software; newer versions of AnalySIS / iTEM / whatever may have changed this behavior.
Best wishes, Paul Voyles
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Good one John! Now I have an image of Buffy the JPEG Slayer working to save us all from the 'evil JPG.' John.
john_mackenzie-at-ncsu.edu wrote:
} } Stephanie: } } Please be advised that there is no implementation of JPG with lossless } compression anywhere in the world that I know of. The last time I saw a } program that actually was lossless was in DOS 3.3 almost twenty years ago. } } Saving with JPG at a setting of 12 removes data. period } } If you load an image and make adjustments and then resave it, the image } file will have compression on top of compression. The situation gets } worse and worse. } JPG is an evil format that is not supported for scientific imaging by } the Society for really good reasons. If a system produces a different } format, the first time you save it should ALWAYS be to tiff if you want } to save it. } } JPG is for email and web pages and is good for nothing else } } Luckily I don't have strong opinions } } John } } } }
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Just a reminder that TIFF is the officially recognized format by the Microscopy Society. Basic rule of thumb: save the original in TIFF then save a copy in JPEG for easier email communication etc.
The big problem with JPEG used to be degradation of the image on resizing, etc. I don't know if this is still the case with their new algorithms.
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Good evening, dear Fabio, in addition to the helpful message of Rick Powell on Silver Amplifying / Autometallographic localization of metals / Gorm Danscher papers etc. I would like to comment on your problem (since silver precipitation alone is more/less unspecific and will label a lot of metals in your specimen)....
Perhaps my message does not help you really, but if your } silver enhance kit { alone is not able to localize Cd qualitatively / quantitatively (and your Cd-concentration in the probe likely is very small) you could use also perhaps a precipitating method
} By means of crystalline precipitation as Cd (TH)2 [Cr (NH3)2 (CNS)4]2,1 0,1% of cadmium can be detected, without previous separation, in the presence of the metals of the ammonium sulphide group and the alkaline earths. Moreover, about 0,2% of cadmium can be detected by aid of a simple separation, in the presence of whatsoever metals of the hydrochloric acid and hydrogen sulphide groups. { source: Microchimica Acta Publisher: Springer Wien ISSN: 0026-3672 (Paper) 1436-5073 (Online) DOI: 10.1007/BF01471844 Issue: Volume 3, Number 4
Assuming that precipitation of Cd as CdS (with ammoniumsulfide, and -perhaps -using also KCN for masking copper) is not the method of your choice, I have had a look into PubMed and found the following reference: Biomarkers. 2002 Nov-Dec;7(6):491-500. Autometallography and metallothionein immunohistochemistry in hepatocytes of turbot (Scophthalmus maximus L.) after exposure to cadmium and depuration treatment. Amaral AF, Alvarado N, Marigomez I, Cunha R, Hylland K, Soto M. Section of Ecology, Department of Biology, University of the Azores, R Mae de Deus, 9500 Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. Abstract: In this study, autometallography and immunohistochemistry were used to localize and quantify cadmium and metallothionein (MT) levels, respectively, in cellular compartments of turbot liver on exposure to cadmium for 7 days and further depuration treatment for 14 days. Metals weakly bound to proteins (i.e. MTs) in hepatocyte lysosomes were visualized as black silver deposits (BSDs) using a light microscope. With the aid of a newly developed immunohistochemical procedure, MTs were localized and semi-quantified in both the cytosolic and the lysosomal compartments of hepatocytes. The BSD extent in the lysosomes of hepatocytes increased significantly as a result of cadmium exposure. This response was evidenced after 1 h. Further, a progressive increase in the volume density of BSDs occurred up to the seventh day. Total MT immunohistochemical levels increased at a lower rate, starting after 1 day of cadmium exposure. BSD extent values recovered after depuration, whilst MT levels remain unchanged. It is possible that the detoxification rate of metals via lysosomes was diminished, whilst MT levels remained unchanged, at least after 14 days of depuration. It can be concluded that autometallography and MT immunohistochemistry are good tools for clarifying metal and metal-MT trafficking routes in hepatocytes, and also that BSD extent and MT immunohistochemical levels in the lysosomes and cytosol of fish hepatocytes can be considered to be useful biomarkers of metal exposure.
Unfortunately this is an article published in a Taylor and Francis Journal, so I was not able to retrieve the article as pdf.......but you can find the Abstract and Journal reference at: http://taylorandfrancis.metapress.com/link.asp?id=efeg34kqvvyn0vtg
The search in Pubmed for "cadmium localiz" resulted only with 17 hits.
Also I have found (for: "cadmium" and "EM" only 14 results) at: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6TCP-4HHGNPH-1 &_coverDate=06%2F30%2F2006&_alid=408694459&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_q d=1&_cdi=5176&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000057295&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_ userid=2450241&md5=5a4679d3894972bb9ba28a4ab1f88de4
an article dealing with Cd-localization perhaps), also there only the abstract is available.
When using: } "cadmium" and "TEM" { as search phrase, I found a paper, entitled } Bioaccumulation and localization of exogenous cadmium in a teleost by electron microscopy (TEM) and its specific quantitation by electron probe X-ray microanalysis (EPMA) {. Bioorg Med Chem. 2000 Mar;8(3):475-82. by Tayal AK, Kaur I, Mathur RP.
the abstract of which tells us: } A cadmium bioconcentration study was carried out in a fresh water teleost, Colisa fasciatus, to study the bioaccumulation kinetics and fate of exogenous cadmium (Cd) in biological tissues. Study shows that on exposure of the fish to a sublethal concentration of cadmium in test water, Cd uptake results in its bioconcentration in gills, liver and muscle tissues. To explore whether the accumulated Cd reaches the membranes or inside the cells, transmission electron microscopy (TEM) of the thin sections of tissues was done after histochemical localization of Cd in cells by modified SST method.
TEM studies of sections of gills, liver and muscle tissues showed the deposits of exogenous Cd (visualized as dense clouds) in biological cells. This suggests the presence of free or loosely bound Cd on the membranes and inside the cells, which in the presence of Na2S is converted into insoluble metal sulfides. Electron probe X-ray microanalysis (EPMA) studies confirmed the presence of Cd on the membrane surface as well as inside the cells of bioindicator organs suggesting involvement of membrane transport of exogenous Cd inside the cells and its deposition as loosely bound insoluble metal complexes.
SST-Method: excerpt out of the pdf (which I am able to send to you, if you allow): } } } The SST process employs a developer with a low pH, silver nitrate as silver ion donator and a protecting colloid, gum arabic. The developer involves the use of small amounts of hydroquinone as reduction molecules. The SST results in reduced silver ion magnfications at specfic sites with gum arabic reducing the autocatalytic activity in the developer itself and the catalytic activity of the zone between the developer and the surface of the section [6,8]. However, SST visualizes only a certain fraction of heavy metals represented by free or loosely bound metal that in the presence of Na2S is converted into insoluble metal sufdes. The metal that is strongly bound to organic/inorganic ligands may not be sulfidated and remains histochemically invisible. The visualization of the fraction of Cd in fish tissue presented herein support Danscher and Norgaard [18] in that SST could be used for the demonstration of trace amounts of certain heavy metals at ultra-structural level and that the metal sufides can be shown by the technique. In their investigation, George et al.,[9] using the precipitation reactions (sufide for heavy metals), reported precipitation of Cd as a sufide in bivalve tissues. They also reported that precipitation reactions result in a better localization with a loss of 14% as compared to .....
Also, with this search phrase, you will discover some older references, like } Cellular alterations in collembolan midgut cells as a marker of heavy metal exposure: ultrastructure and intracellular metal distribution. { Sci Total Environ. 1996 Mar 29;181(3):187-200. by Pawert M, Triebskorn R, Graff S, Berkus M, Schulz J, Kohler HR. (which you can find at: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V78-3VWF92S-1 P&_coverDate=03%2F29%2F1996&_alid=408705808&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_ qd=1&_cdi=5836&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000057295&_version=1&_urlVersion=0& _userid=2450241&md5=77742f5cebfe3a73991ef90c3973adff )
the .pdf of which I also could send to you (please send } allowance { mail)
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Is it possible to use a immunogold purpose silver enhancement kit for revealing other heavy metals, such as cadmium, on paraffin or resin sections?
Best wishes
Fabio
Dr. Fabio D'Amico Dept. Biomedical Sciences University of Catania Via Androne 87/a I-95124 Catania ITALY tel/fax +39 095312017 email: f.damico-at-unict.it
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A user wants to remove the data bar from a stored image. Can anyone remind me whether this is possible apart from cropping?
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My recent response to ESEM detectors was subjective and incomplete. My errors have brought Daniel Phifer, the application specialist of FEI to my rescue. Please read below. Daniel, thank you.
Ann Fook Yang EM Unit/ Unite EM Bldg 20, AAFC/AAC 960 Carling Ave, Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1A 0C6 Telephone/Téléphone: 613-759-1638 Facsimile/Télécopieur: 613-759-1701 yanga-at-agr.gc.ca
Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada - Agriculture et Agroalimentaire Canada ============================================================================
AnnFook, I was forwarded your list server response and wanted to give you some info to better respond.
For your samples which have little to no atomic contrast, there is likely no need for the BSE except when looking for gold labels, etc. This is usually on dried prepared biological samples. With the majority of your samples at Agri-Food Canada, the BSE and SE images may be similar as the atomic composition is very similar.
The query could be from a customer who has lots of atomic differences and thus may need a BSE detector to show the atomic differences. Maybe not, but this should be qualified to give the best response.
FEI has two detectors for picking up BSE signal. The solid state BSE crystal can be used in high and low vacuum but not in ESEM (as it requires the gas to amplify the signal. As the pressure is increased above 2-3 Torr in the chamber, the BSE crystal will get less of the signal reaching the detector as the BSE collide with the gas and scatter. For this situation, there is an optional Gaseous Backscattered Detector (GBSD) which can be used in ESEM mode (4-7Torr optimum). The GBSD will give atomic contrast (even in fully hydrated samples) using a patented detection mechanism. If BSE is desired, these two detectors are the best options. The GSED (Gaseous Secondary Electron Detector) only picks up secondary electrons which yield surface information, not composition.
It is my impression from the question that the terminology is getting confused in translation. Hopefully this information will allow you to clarify your response. Please feel free to paraphrase or plagiarize my words and make them your own if you like. I just want you to have the information. If you have questions about the technology and would like me to help you answer a query, please do not hesitate to contact me directly.
Hope all is well in Ottawa.
Daniel
Daniel Phifer
FEI Company
-----Original Message----- X-from: Yang, Ann-Fook Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 11:38 AM To: Yang, Ann-Fook
You cannot use GSED in high vac; it is only for low vac. I have a XL30 ESEM and never use the backscatter detector (BSD) since installation six years ago for morphological study, except using it to compare with GSED at the very beginning. A GSED produces images a lot better than a BSD. If I were you, the pick would have been a GSED. If you need a BSD for another reason, then that is another matter to consider. As for software, you don't have to worry; just put in a new GSED and off you go. I have checked with my service engineer.
Ann Fook Yang EM Unit/ Unite EM Bldg 20, AAFC/AAC 960 Carling Ave, Ottawa,Ontario Canada K1A 0C6 Telephone/Téléphone: 613-759-1638 Facsimile/Télécopieur: 613-759-1701 yanga-at-agr.gc.ca
Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada - Agriculture et Agroalimentaire Canada
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] ESEM-detectors
Question: Hello I' d like to know is GSED is used in ESEM with tungesten filament and if it can be used in both low and high vacuum mode because the BSD in my XL30 TMP instrument is damaged and I want to know iif it is best to buy back scatter detectors or GSED and is it need a new software.
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More exactly ... It is the ^uncompressed^ TIFF that is the MSA standard format ... Presumably because the bitmap is intact, while compression algorithms come and go.
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Sorry, I was incommunicado for a few days and just saw this posting.
The resolution information is not stored in the tags mentioned below for the following reason: Many word processing and page layout programs use that tag to print something at the "right" size (for example MS Word). If you enter the calibration value in this field, the software will try to print the image with a width of a few microns, resulting in a single dot on the paper. We ran into this behavior a few years ago and were forced to store the calibration values in a private tag. If you want to know what the tag is, let me know, I can find out for you.
ananlySIS does not automatically convert images to 8 bit, unless instructed to do so. One option is, as already mentioned, the possibility to automatically convert to 8-bit when saving the image. Of course, if that is selected, the software will do that.
Michael Bode
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David,
Thank you for the information. I downloaded the software you told me but unfortunately, the information written int Xresolution tag is allways 200 and the ResolutionUnit is 0. So it seems that the saptial calibration is stored elsewhere.
Best regards
Eric
Le 30/05/06 17:58, « David Vowles » {djv23-at-cam.ac.uk} a écrit :
} Eric, } } The TIFF standard allows for spatial resolution data to be saved in the } fields XResolution (no of pixels per measurement unit in X dir) and } YResolution (no of pixels per measurement unit in Y dir). The measurement } unit data is contained in the ResolutionUnit field (usually inch or cm). } From these you should be able to calculate the pixel size, magn or image } width. There are a number of free TIFF tag viewers available, for example, } http://www.awaresystems.be/imaging/tiff/astifftagviewer.html, or just } Google 'tiff tag viewer' . } Hope this helps. } } David Vowles } Electron Microscope Unit } Dept of Materials Science and Metallurgy } University of Cambridge } Pembroke St Cambridge } UK CB2 3QZ } Tel: +44 (0)1223 334325 } Fax: +44 (0)1223 334567 } Email: djv23-at-cam.ac.uk } } } } } Name: Eric Leroy } } } } Organization: CNRS - LCMTR } } } } Title-Subject: [Filtered] AnalySIS TIFF images } } } } Question: Hi, } } } } We have a SIS Megaview III camera attached to our Tecnai and we use } } AnalySIS to record the images. Since we only have a full version of } } AnalySIS installed on the microscope's PC we usually treat ours images } } with ImageJ. ImageJ can perfectly read the TIFF images but is unable to } } read the spatial calibration of the image. Do you know how this spatial } } calibration is written in the image ? } } } } Thanks } } } } Eric } } } } --------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } } } ==============================Original Headers============================== } } 9, 12 -- From zaluzec-at-microscopy.com Tue May 30 08:08:56 2006 } } 9, 12 -- Received: from [206.69.208.22] (mac22.zaluzec.com [206.69.208.22]) } } 9, 12 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP } } id k4UD8s0s005952 } } 9, 12 -- for {microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Tue, 30 May 2006 08:08:56 } } -0500 } } 9, 12 -- Mime-Version: 1.0 } } 9, 12 -- X-Sender: (Unverified) } } 9, 12 -- Message-Id: {p06110404c0a1f45139b1-at-[206.69.208.22]} } } 9, 12 -- Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 08:08:49 -0500 } } 9, 12 -- To: microscopy-at-microscopy.com } } 9, 12 -- From: eric.leroy-at-glvt-cnrs.fr (by way of MicroscopyListserver) } } 9, 12 -- Subject: viaWWW: AnalySIS TIFF images } } 9, 12 -- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" } } ==============================End of - Headers============================== }
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Email: afaf_mahdi-at-hotmail.com Name: Afaf Ibrahim Mahdi
Organization: Cairo Univ
Title-Subject: [Filtered] ESEM detectors
Question: Hello all I have already recieved answers from some scientists for my question about GSED and it was valuable. I'am a mieralogist and I used ESEM XL30 TMP in examining geological samples and also biological samples. I used BSD fo about 90% of my work. For about 6 years I used BSD in both high vacuum and low vacuum modes by converting Key no 4 and I used only carbon sticker tofix samples. it gives satisfied EDX analyses but images some time satisfactory and sometimes it is very bad. The magnification dont exceed 8000X. Now the back scatter detector is damage and I want to buy one suitable for both modes because I don' have enough moner to buy 2 detectors. Is there one detector can used in both modes taking into account that i still have GSD or it is better to buy BSD. In the last monty I noticed that the two pumps are begging to heat severly, could be the detector is the reason. thank you
} Just a reminder that TIFF is the officially recognized format by the Microscopy Society. Basic rule of thumb: save the original in } TIFF then save a copy in JPEG for easier email communication etc. } } The big problem with JPEG used to be degradation of the image on resizing, etc. I don't know if this is still the case with their new } algorithms.
JPEG2000 is no more lossless than the original JPEG - only the method of compression has changed.
Also - I warn people to beware of TIFFs from unknown programs. The TIFF 6 specification does allow for storing JPEG compressed data in the TIFF wrapper - there is a flag that indicates the compression level.