We plan to buy a cryo-ultramicrotome for polymer TEM sample preparation. Is anybody familiar with RMC MT-X cryo-ultramicrotome? Any suggestion or any comments for other cryo-ultramicrotome would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Zhiqiang Chen Institute of Advance Materials and New Energy University of Louiville Louisville, KY 40292
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X-from: Ken Converse [mailto:kenconverse-at-qualityimages.biz] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 11:47 AM To: 'plarson-at-ou.edu'
Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone on the board had any advice for venting electron microscope columns/sample chambers. In particular, we want a system that allows the column or sample chamber to reach atmospheric pressure by venting with dry N2 but does not allow the chamber to over pressurize above atmosphere to protect seals, thin window on EDS detectors, etc.
I'm aware that there are on-demand gas regulators that can control this sort of thing. Does anyone have any suggestions for a good vendor or model number for this sort of regulator?
Alternatively, I've also heard that demand valves that divers use are good for this sort of application as it only supplies gas when the diver
breathes or sucks through the mouthpiece (or in this case when the chamber is still under vacuum). Does anyone know a particular brand or type of diver demand valve that works well for this application and is easy to modify (i.e. relatively easy to install standard fittings on the
ends like NPT, etc.)?
Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance,
preston
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DJ, In November 2000 I donated an ETEC Autoscan to the Red Lion Area Sr. High School in Red Lion, PA along with a very old (vacuum tube logic) Varian vacuum evaporator. They have been using it ever since and I have been providing free service.
This was the school system that my kids went to and the deal was that I would treat them as a full service contract for at least as long as my kids were in the school system. They're all graduated and I've since moved to Maine, but continue to service the scope, just not promising as prompt service due to the current distance involved.
IMHO the problem isn't getting the equipment. It's really not all that unusual for this stuff to come up free. The problem is service. I would encourage anyone who is familiar with servicing SEMs, TEMs and other "high tech" equipment to adopt a school, find them some free equipment and give them free service. If you want to get kids interested in the sciences then they need to have the opportunity to play with the toys that scientists play with. After all, many of us were drawn to our areas of interest by the cool toys.
Ken Converse owner
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I've been asked several times the following question:
How many high schools in the world actually have equipment such as SEM's
or other fairly sophisticated scientific equipment for use in the classroom?
If you are a high school, or know of a high school that has this kind of
capability, can you please post that information. I would like to know where you are, contact information, and what equipment you use.
I think it will be of interest for our whole scientific community to know the answer to that question, so I suggest that you post the answer to the group as a whole.
If you prefer to answer me directly, please indicate if you prefer information to be shared or not as the case may be.
Thank you,
dj
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a: find an exhaustive listing of the Smithsonian reference materials (and their reference compositions)
b: find out exactly how I can lay my hands, no, my tweezers, on some of them?
I have searched the Smithsonian website but to no avail.
all the best
Ritchie
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Gene Jarosowich wrote a short article on the history of the Smithsonian standards in the NIST Journal of Research (proceedings of a NIST-MAS topical workshop that is well worth looking at, about accuracy in epma) in 2002 -- that has an appendix with a list of the standards. You can download that article and others from my probe class web site www.geology.wisc.edu/~johnf/g777/777NISTarticles.html the fifth article down.
John
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To Owners/Users of Sorvall MT2B or RMC MT2C ultramicrotomes:
Does anyone have any current information regarding third-party repair services in the St. Louis/Kansas City/Chicago area? We need someone that will do the service onsite as we have three or four machines requiring maintenance.
Thank you so much,
Jaclynn Lett Senior Research Technician Research Center for Auditory and Vestibular Studies Department of Otolaryngology Washington University School of Medicine 660 S. Euclid Ave., Campus Box 8115 St. Louis, MO 63110
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Colin, I suspect you can get strong thin-section staining of cellulose and other polysaccharides with our favorite, KMnO4 followed by Pb (citrate ok, but we prefer Sato's Lead formula; Essential to avoid NMA (MNA?) in your epoxy mixture; best to use Araldite; my favorite is Araldite 506). I know this Mn-Pb sequence strongly stains the spiral chitin rib in micron and submicron tracheoles of insect muscle, and also stains the dextran (MW 500,000; lovely little wormy threads excluded to the extra-fibrillar space) we've used at 3% to osmotically squeeze the myofilament lattice in the glycerol-detergent-permeabilized muscle fibers. During aqueous fixation, the dextran is lost, rinsed away, but is nicely preserved in situ by freeze-substitution. I think it may even stain, though with less contrast, using the lead stain alone, come to think of it. I seem to recall that lead citrate alone stains glycogen, something I never see any more when working with permeabilized muscle.
Part of our staining success (and certainly our ultimate high contrast) might also be due to our preferred 2-step fixation (works for both aqueous and in -80 acetone for freeze-substitution) using tannic acid followed by uranyl acetate. No additional fix is needed for extracellular structures or well-anchored internal components of permeabilized cells; but you can use OsO4 after TA instead of UrAc. However, OsO4 toxicity and vapor makes it less popular with us than the equally effective UrAc.
I tried Googling got 60 seconds on permanganate staining of cellulose and it looks promising; hit #7 includes "becomes visible as permanganate is a stain for cellulose fibrils ... ". this 1979 reference attributes a 1975 paper DESHPANDE, B. P. (1976). Observations on the fine structure of plant cell walls. I. Use of permanganate staining. Ann. Bot. 40, 433-437.
I leave you to sift through the rest.
-mike reedy-
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I'm sorry I didn't reply earlier, but if your model of LKB 7801A works like mine then I'm sure this will solve it.
A1. I assume that you have the black handled locking lever to 45 deg forward from vertical and the score selector to || //.
If this doesn't work then it's probably because the clamping head needs loosening off: I hope you have the same diagrams as me so (if not - get back to me): B1. Undo the silver cover (domed flat blade screw head) screw - labelled 7 in Fig 1. B2. using the correct hexagonal allen wrench loosen the screw inside the hole. B3. Now you can loosen the barrel of the locking head by putting something in one of 4 holes around the cylinder at the base of the shaft for the black handled locking lever. Turn it one or two rotations clockwise and you should see it loosen a bit.
Now if you go back to A1 above it should be possible to remove the head easily because it is not clamped so tightly.
If this works remember to re-adjust the barrel tension (B3 above) so that the black handled locking lever is clamped at about 90 to 100 deg from vertical. Effectively do B3, B2 and B1 in reverse.
Please come back to me if my instructions are too vague or vary from your model.
I have copied this to the microscopy list just in case anyone else has this problem.
Malcolm
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Hi, All: Please let me know if any body has a second TEM with CCD for sale. Thank you for your attention.
Zhiqiang Chen Institute for Advance Materials and Renewable Energy University of Louisville Louisville, KY 40292
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I would like to look at actin structure in fish skin epithelial cells. I usually use 2%GA-2%PFA fixative and spurr's resin, but I think actin structure is not clear enough. If anyone knows or experienced well preserved morphology, please give me any advice.
Thank you so much.
--------------------- Fumi KATOH post doctoral research fellow St. Francis Xavier University fkatoh-at-stfx.ca
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] CamScan Model Cs44
Question: Does anyone have info on this SEM? Specs/year of manufacture? Thank you, Marie
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] SEM (filament/image issues)
Question: Please help a newbie out a little...
Our regular SEM operator isn't here anymore (can't contact them) so i'm now in charge of running it. (used it sparingly in college)
We have a Hitachi S-570 (yeah a very old one). When i first started it up after about a month downtime, the filament was burnt. So i replaced the filament according to the settings in the manual. Well after starting it up again, i used the filament image mode to find the saturation point and everything. my settings were 20KV and WD of 30mm. I have a fairly circular filament image when the current gets up to only 60 micro amps... then there is a totally seperate half circle pertruding out from the side of the screen. When i turn the fillament knob to get a current above about 80, the image stays the same shape but starts to dissapear.
So when i go back to the best filament image (only 50 micro amps) and switch to normal mode to see an image, i can only see a very faint outline of my specimen. Focusing and gun allignments do nothing.
I'm pretty sure my problem has to do with when i set the new filament, but it was done exactly by the manual.
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I am interested in gathering advice from members of the list serve about lighting for our new FE TEM. We currently have a 3X3 grid of fluorescent lights for general lighting, and servicing the instrument etc. We've installed clean electrical service - back to the building ground with good wiring and checked for fields. In particular, I'd be interested in hearing from members about their experience with spot lighting installations to illuminate the TEM and workstations while in operation. In the past we have just installed track lighting with high intensity halogen spotlights mounted in movable heads to direct the light where we need the illumination. The spotlights were controlled with a dimmer switch to adjust the intensity to the desired level. I understand that mounting the dimmer switch to the microscope can lead to ground loop problems. What I'd like to hear is if anybody has experience with new installations, things to watch out for (ground loops, fields that effect the microscope etc.), and also any recomendations for lighting systems and or components. Thanks in advance,
Greg
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} I am interested in gathering advice from members of the list serve } about } lighting for our new FE TEM. } We currently have a 3X3 grid of fluorescent lights for general } lighting, } and servicing the instrument etc. We've installed clean electrical } service - back to the building ground with good wiring and checked for } fields. } In particular, I'd be interested in hearing from members about their } experience with spot lighting installations to illuminate the TEM and } workstations while in operation. In the past we have just installed } track lighting with high intensity halogen spotlights mounted in } movable } heads to direct the light where we need the illumination. The } spotlights were controlled with a dimmer switch to adjust the intensity } to the desired level. } I understand that mounting the dimmer switch to the microscope can lead } to ground loop problems. } What I'd like to hear is if anybody has experience with new } installations, things to watch out for (ground loops, fields that } effect } the microscope etc.), and also any recomendations for lighting systems } and or components. } Dear Greg, We have two fixtures each with two 4' fluorescent lights and six track lighting fixtures with 50 W halogen flood lights. The fluorescents are controlled by either a wall switch or a switch mounted on the scope, and the halogens are controlled by a dimmer mounted on the scope--the wires to the switches are run through conduit along the scope frame. We have not seen any adverse effect from the scope-mounted switches on either our FEI T12 or FEI TF30H. Yours, Bill Tivol, PhD EM Scientist and Manager Cryo-Electron Microscopy Facility Broad Center, Mail Code 114-96 California Institute of Technology Pasadena CA 91125 (626) 395-8833 tivol-at-caltech.edu
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My lab is setup somewhat like yours, with fluorescents and incandescent track lighting.
I don't have a dimmer, but the track lighting is low brightness. When I need to see something under high light conditions, I use the fluorescents. To make this easy, I have a switch at the operating position (RF/wireless) to control the fluorescents. The track lights are on all the time.
Dimmers should not generate ground loops. However, most are pretty good at generating electrical noise that can be radiated, conveyed over the power line, or both. This may or may not be a problem depending on the dimmer quality, the lab layout and the susceptibility of the TEM. A noise free dimmer is a variable autotransformer (Variac TM). Nothing is perfect... They can generate magnetic fields. Fields tend to be small, however, due to the steel shielding and the torrodial core.
Another caveat... New high efficiency fluorescents use solid state switching devices instead of the old saturatable transformer "ballasts". If poorly designed, these can also generate electrical noise. FWIW, The ones I have (brand unknown) do not affect my SEM.
Regards, Woody BWXT Services
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Hi everyone,
I am interested in gathering advice from members of the list serve about
lighting for our new FE TEM. We currently have a 3X3 grid of fluorescent lights for general lighting,
and servicing the instrument etc. We've installed clean electrical service - back to the building ground with good wiring and checked for fields. In particular, I'd be interested in hearing from members about their experience with spot lighting installations to illuminate the TEM and workstations while in operation. In the past we have just installed track lighting with high intensity halogen spotlights mounted in movable
heads to direct the light where we need the illumination. The spotlights were controlled with a dimmer switch to adjust the intensity to the desired level. I understand that mounting the dimmer switch to the microscope can lead to ground loop problems. What I'd like to hear is if anybody has experience with new installations, things to watch out for (ground loops, fields that effect
the microscope etc.), and also any recomendations for lighting systems and or components. Thanks in advance,
Greg
-- -- ================================================================== Greg Strout Research Scientist, University of Oklahoma Past President, Oklahoma Microscopy Society (OMS) e-mail: gstrout-at-ou.edu Opinions expressed herein are mine and not necessarily those of the University of Oklahoma ==================================================================
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Email: ngohad-at-clemson.edu Name: Neeraj V. Gohad
Organization: Dept. Biological Sciences, Clemson University
Title-Subject: [Filtered] Confocal Microscopy
Question: Dear All,
I am going to purchase some DVDs and Tapes from MSA on various topics in microscopy. Could any one please recommend a DVD or tape from MSAs list on Confocal microscopy. There are a buch on confocal microscopy. I am getting to be an advanced user so I want something that will lecture on advanced techniques.
Please let me know,
Thank you in advance,
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] The protocol for fixing the plant sample
Question: I would like to have the standard procedure for fixing the plant material. I need to fix the maple leaf sample. Thanks LD
Hello, I am so very grateful to all who send me advices and hints how to solve our trouble with the knifemaker. Our LKB 7801A is now working fine. Thanking you, again.
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Thanks to all those who replied to my query regarding the sectioning of cotton fibres for TEM. As usual the replies were exceptionally useful and have given us a number of leads to follow.
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Hi Dang, Your question is impossible to answer without more information. What do you want to observe in the plant, and with what type of microscopy? The choice of protocol is guided by the answers to those questions.
By the way, to find a lot of information about this in a small space, search your library catalog for "microtechnique". That word sounds like it means delicate surgery or something but in fact it is what books about fixation protocols are often titled. There probably are one or two at your library (try Plant or Botanical Microtechnique).
Good luck, Tobias
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Looking for methods or experiences in measuring the total surface area of 1 gram of mineral (diopside) powder with grain sizes between 150 and 250 microns. I have heard of SEM techniques but not sure how that is done. Any Ideas?
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The University of Wisconsin Milwaukee is searching for a full time probationary senior instrumentation specialist to train and assist faculty, research and technical staff and students in use of electron and atomic force microscopes, vacuum systems, and specimen preparation instruments; to install, operate, update, maintain and repair scientific instruments; to administer instrument use and enforce lab and chemical safety protocols. Candidates must have a Bachelor's degree with course work in physical or biological sciences, a post-bachelors certificate or degree in electron microscopy; at least four years of experience in microscopy and /or surface science; ability to effectively operate research instruments and computers; strong written and verbal communication skills to work with lab users from diverse backgrounds. Well qualified applicants will have training and/or experience with HRTEM, AFM, SQUID, vacuum leak checkers, preparation of surface and TEM specimen. Minimum salary of $46,191, commensurate with qualifications. UWM is an AA/EEO employer
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Version 2.0.0 of the 2dx software for image-processing for 2D crystals is now available here: http://2dx.org/download/2dx-software
This version contains numerous new features, and has included all the bugfixes, suggestions, and better algorithms that were brought to us from several users.
A 13-minute movie that demonstrates the basic usage of 2dx is available here: http://2dx.org/documentation/2dx-software/tutorial/2dx_image-primer
A description of 2dx in JSB can be found here: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jsb.2006.07.020
Bryant, Xiangyan and Henning.
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} Just wanted to ask for your recommendation of a good } brand/model of UPS for an SEM system. } } We have a Phillips/FEI Quanta 200 ESEM and we are thinking of } buying an uninterrupted power supply for voltage surge protection.
Our Quanta 400 is getting along well with a Powerware 9125 6000VA. I sometimes wish it offered a little more headroom because the initial pumpdown sequence will infrequently trigger an overload warning, but under normal operating conditions, 24/7, it is fine. Powerware support is excellent. They replaced a UPS that was frequently giving me overload warnings with a UPS that subsequently hasn't issued a warning yet. Ours also supports 2 computers along with an EDX system, and if your installation is like mine, there's no need to support a chiller, so the same KVA may be all you need.
It is also the case that our UPS, with only a pair of batteries, is only intended to save power for relatively short 15 minute outages, which covers ~99% of our problems. If you want extended operation, then Powerware offers additional battery modules for this same model.
A UPS this size can be noisy, and possibly emit detrimental EM radiation. Ours is in a different room along with the 208-to-230V step-up transformer. 230V is the input voltage for the UPS.
See: http://www.powerware.com/UPS/9125RM_UPS.asp
HTH, Michael Shaffer :o)
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If your concern is surges or sags in power supply, you don't need an UPS. What you would need is a stabilizer like Topaz makes. This is a magnetic resonance system that adjusts output voltage to be at specified output. It also includes input spike protection and EMI/RFI removal.
If you do want an UPS, and these are very nice to have, there are several makers. I use two Liebert Nfinity 8KVA units with redundant power and control modules. SEM and its PC are on one UPS while EDS, EBSD and other PCs and chiller and compressor are on another one. Each UPS runs at about 25% total capacity and will run the whole system for about 250 minutes if power fails--which it usually does in winter and summer here in California. These units regulate output voltage to within about 2% of specified value. They are double conversion in that they take in AC, convert it to DC and invert the DC to AC output. When input AC fails, DC from the batteries is inverted to AC output. Along with this is spike protection, sag protection and EMI/RFI protection.
These units work on 208-240VAC input and output similar voltage. I take 240VAC in and output 240VAC and 120VAC.
Hope this helps.
gary g.
At 02:35 AM 10/9/2006, you wrote:
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David, sorry for my late answer; I had been on holidays in Italy :-)))
The DSMs are very nice instruments but from what I know a little complicated in trouble-shooting. If you need some original service manuals I can try and copy these from a friend of mine.
Yes, definitely there should be more high-tech available at high-schools or some joint-ventures between high-schools and universities to share possibilities...
In a kind of way I am running out of "service-time" adopting more than the existing two schools, but - thinking of all those field-engineers out there from different manufacturers someone at FEI, HITACHI, JEOL or ZEISS NTS should think about doing some adoption of schools...
Modells for integration within the school system very largely depend on the teachers there (my experience) and your time available for coaching kids and teachers and doing updates sometimes a year. Get the machines known throughout the school, do some nice image and put it on floor walls....
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I was very interested in the several different ways people have developed for back-filling SEM specimen chambers with dry nitrogen gas. I think, however, that years ago we developed a method that is even simpler and less expensive than any of those described so far. This method is described in detail on page 65 of my book Vacuum Methods in Electron Microscopy (available from SPI Supplies, M. E. Taylor, Ladd, etc.)
What we did was to run a flexible hose (ordinary polyethylene tubing does just fine) from a stopper in the mouth of the Dewar flask of an EDS detector (you could alternatively connect to the bleed-off line on a liquid nitrogen storage tank) to the gas inlet on the SEM's specimen chamber. A large flexible plastic container, such as an inflatable plastic toy or beach ball, was connected to a T-junction in this line by means of a piece of soft, flexible surgical rubber tubing, and a straight, clean slit about 100 mm long was made in this tubing with a sharp razor blade or scalpel. This slit will normally stay closed tightly enough so that the nitrogen boiling off from the liquid nitrogen container will flow into the plastic ball. When the ball becomes full, the slit will open enough to prevent the system from becoming over pressurized, thus serving as a primitive pressure relief valve. When the inlet valve to the specimen chamber is opened, the plastic ball will collapse and the nitrogen will flow into the specimen chamber, but only under atmospheric pressure so there will be no danger of over pressurization. A small weight can be placed on the plastic ball to maintain a small flow of nitrogen after the system reaches atmospheric pressure, if desired. A beach ball about 0.5 m in diameter will hold enough nitrogen to fill most vacuum chambers several times, and it turns out to be lots of fun explaining to visitors why you have the ball connected to your electron microscope.
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Question: All,
Where can I purchase an old SEM specimen exchange chamber? I want to modify it and use as a quick load chamber on my existing Kratos AXIS Ultra XPS system.
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I don't see Topaz much either. I replaced the Topaz unit several years ago and do not have the model number here any longer. It probably got replaced by a new one or the line shut down. What you need is a ferroresonant transformer like:
These are USA links but probably TSI or Sola have international outlets.
If you check the data on the links, these are probably what you seek rather than an UPS. If power is on all the time but dirty, the ferroresonant units are the ticket. They can be much cheaper than an UPS of same capacity. Plus, they easily can handle three phase input power if you have it.
gary g.
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} Hi gary, } } Can you give me a more specific model of this Topaz stabilizer? I only } saw a single model at the web and it didn't post the technical details. } } Thanks again, } Melina } } } -----Original Message----- } From: Gary Gaugler [mailto:gary-at-gaugler.com] } Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:36 PM } To: Melina Miralles } Cc: MSA listserver } Subject: Re: [Microscopy] SEM : UPS model for Fei E-SEM Quanta 200 } } If your concern is surges or sags in power supply, you } don't need an UPS. What you would need is a stabilizer } like Topaz makes. This is a magnetic resonance system } that adjusts output voltage to be at specified output. } It also includes input spike protection and EMI/RFI } removal. } } If you do want an UPS, and these are very nice to have, } there are several makers. I use two Liebert Nfinity } 8KVA units with redundant power and control modules. } SEM and its PC are on one UPS while EDS, EBSD and other } PCs and chiller and compressor are on another one. Each } UPS runs at about 25% total capacity and will run the } whole system for about 250 minutes if power fails--which } it usually does in winter and summer here in California. } These units regulate output voltage to within about 2% of } specified value. They are double conversion in that they } take in AC, convert it to DC and invert the DC to AC output. } When input AC fails, DC from the batteries is inverted to AC } output. Along with this is spike protection, sag protection } and EMI/RFI protection. } } These units work on 208-240VAC input and output similar } voltage. I take 240VAC in and output 240VAC and 120VAC. } } Hope this helps. } } gary g.
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] Decacifying teeth
Question: Hi All,
I am debating whether or not to decalcify a root of a tooth in a formic acid/formaldehyde decal such as CalRite, or to go the slow route with EDTA/glut. The root will then be processed for TEM studies in hopes to identify microorganisms. No other studies are planned. From your experience will formic acid be the way to go or will it compromise my results?
Thank you so much in advance. Rob Clark E.M. Technologist Sharp HealthCare San Diego CA
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Perhaps we could exchange our views about the optimal buffers to use during fixations for TEM. Cacodylate is a traditional buffer, but it is not really healthy and perhaps it is time to update our knowledge. I have read that PIPES offered the lowest extraction but on the downside a less effecient buffering. Phosphate buffer does not allow the use of Ca and Mg, which could help stabilize some structures. HEPES buffer...well I don't know the downside, perhaps it offers only advantages ;-)but it is used pretty scarcely by the electron microscopists. Some other parameters can be taken into account: the storage, bench (or fridge) life, morphology {} immunology, plants {} animals cells and so on.
Lets talk about salts!
Personally I use Cacodylate for classical fixation of cells for morphology because it has also been used in the laboratory but I am eager to change. There is certainly some room for improvements in the morphology (especially of the membranes). HEPES seems to be a good candidate.
Stephane
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Question: Dear Microscopist, I have a few specimens (Charcoal and virgin wood) of which the sizes are 100x100x50(mm) and 30x30x100(mm). What should I prepare for those specimens before bringing them to the Lab for SEM scanning? Can the SEM machine's chamber accomodate such specimens? Should I reduce the size? Thank you and Best Regards. Winnie
Buffers have been on my mind lately too. In this laboratory, we have switched our buffer system over to Dulbecco's DMEM cell culture medium. In large part this is a matter of convenience. We do quite a few immunocytochemistry experiments, labeling culture cell membranes with a variety of antibodies, and we dilute these antibodies and subsequent colloidal gold conjugates with DMEM. The cells remain viable during incubations in antibody and secondary conjugates. It seemed reasonable to us to continue with DMEM during fixation, and we therefore dilute our cacodylate buffered 3%glut/3%paraformaldehyde stock solution with DMEM and also our OsO4 in DMEM. We have been pleased with the quality of the fixation and now we also use DMEM for buffering fixatives of tissues with equally pleasing results. But I have to admit to a nagging feeling that I am breaking some kind of microscopy law and would appreciate comments.
Thanks,
Doug
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Wealthy colleagues (yes: knowledge is a wealth!),
Perhaps we could exchange our views about the optimal buffers to use during fixations for TEM. Cacodylate is a traditional buffer, but it is not really healthy and perhaps it is time to update our knowledge. I have read that PIPES offered the lowest extraction but on the downside a less effecient buffering. Phosphate buffer does not allow the use of Ca and Mg, which could help stabilize some structures. HEPES buffer...well I don't know the downside, perhaps it offers only advantages ;-)but it is used pretty scarcely by the electron microscopists. Some other parameters can be taken into account: the storage, bench (or fridge) life, morphology {} immunology, plants {} animals cells and so on.
Lets talk about salts!
Personally I use Cacodylate for classical fixation of cells for morphology because it has also been used in the laboratory but I am eager to change. There is certainly some room for improvements in the morphology (especially of the membranes). HEPES seems to be a good candidate.
Stephane
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For 40 years we have used the physiological or experimental buffer solution, often with MOPS as the pH buffer, as our main vehicle for primary fixatives composed with aldehydes, aldehyde-tannic-acid, or tannic acid alone, because we believe this offers the best hope for preserving native structure of various muscle structural states (but also effective with other cells and tissues). "Physiological" mostly implies proper ions: for extracellular salines (Na+ at ~100-145 mM; K+ absent or below 2 mM; Mg++ and Ca++ at 1-4 mM); or intracellular rest-state salines (EGTA and no inadvertent Ca++; Mg at ~5-7 mM; K+ (or Na+) up to 150 mM if desired; chloride, propionate, acetate, or methane-sulfonate as anion).
So for intact frog leg muscle (or insect flight muscle!) we used frog Ringer solution, for mammalian muscle we used mammalian Ringer, with either phosphate or MOPS buffer, adjusting pH with a "dirty" (fixative only) pH electrode to discover the amount of alkali or acid needed to restore original pH after adding various fixative at various concentrations. The presence of up to 3 mM calcium and up to 10 mm magnesium, as dictated by various buffers, was essential in Ringer recipes, and presented no problem. We were happy because the fiber x-ray diffraction pattern and the EM itself showed these fixatives to give good preservation of various distinct pre-fixation native structural states, and i think this was not so for our brief long-ago trials of phosphate or s-collidine buffer. We usually ignored adjustments to osmolarity, but if tried, was always done by adding the osmolytge to the formulation, sucrose top Ringer, 500,000 MW dextran to intracellular buffer.
For secondary fixation, buffer choice need not be physiological. For aldehyde-only or aldehyde-TA primary fixation, post-fixing in OsO4 has routinely employed a Maupin-Pollard good-for-actin buffer (0.1M phosphate, pH 6, with 10 mM MgCl2, used ice cold).
Most of our work has been with chemically demembranated ("skinned"; by detergent-glycerol) muscle of rabbit, frog or insect, so we chose various composition of intracellular buffer to keep the organelles happy and in the desired functional state of the muscle machinery (rigor, Mg-ATP relaxed, Mg-ATP-Ca activating, or modified with nucleotide analogs (like AMPPNP) phosphate analogs (like vanadate). We have for 30 years used nothing but 20 mM MOPS buffer (relatively inexpensive, and good for pH 6.5-7.5; we prefer 6.8 for insect) for both the physiological and fixative versions of our solutions, typically with 5 mM each of additives like MgCl2, EGTA, Ca-EGTA, ATP, Na azide (stops microbial growth, arrest ATPase consumption by mitochondria). For years we strictly used potassium salts in preference to sodium to honor the cell's intracellular habit, but lately have slipped away from this dogma without bad results, drifting to more frequent use of sodium (as hydroxide to adjust pH of EGTA, ATP, MOPS, etc. Sometimes we use salt to approximate intracellular ionic strength, typically using KCl (now NaCl) at 100 or 150 ml, but we often use no extra salt at all, because its presence or absence has so far made little or no difference to the fiber x-ray diffraction patterns which are our gold standard for native and preserved structure.
We have always steered clear of Tris because glutaraldehyde reacts with it, changing pH (?? and what else?), and because Tris-buffered pH alters with changing temperature.
0.2% tannic acid alone in the physiological (intracellular type) buffer works well on skinned cells to fix all but soluble components. It is blocked or complexed so it becomes unavailable for fixation when Triton X-100 or PVP are included in the same solution. TA-fix should be followed after rinse-out by uranyl acetate (typically in DI water) or OsO4 (in Maupin-Pollard good-for-actin buffer) as a secondary fixative.
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This discussion takes me back to my doctoral research, in which I was concerned about the morphology of dissociated chick retina cells as they reassociated to form tissue-like aggregates. (Develop. Biol. 23:36-61, 1970(!)).
As part of that study, we fixed suspensions of cells in various concentrations of phosphate buffer, and measured the cell size distribution in the population with a Coulter Counter. We then chose to fix in 0.08 molar phosphate with 2.5% glutaraldehyde since that distribution matched the result with living cells.
It is clear that one can't just calculate osmotic strength for these systems, since the fixative alters the membrane behavior in a non- linear way during the fixation process.
Joel
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Dear Winnie, The biggest problem with wood and, to a lesser extent charcoal, is that it is very porous, has water in its structure and will out-gas a lot of water vapour. Fresh concrete has the same problem. I have had to cut my wood samples down to less than 10 mm. cube in order to get the SEM to pump down to high vacuum. If you are looking at the wood samples in a variable-pressure SEM it should not be such a big problem. Most modern SEMs, unless they are very high resolution, will look at a 100 mm square sample, it is the pumping capability that might be a problem. Regards,
Mary Mager Electron Microscopist Materials Eng. UBC #419 - 6350 Stores Rd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 CANADA Phone: 604-822-5648 Fax: 604-822-3619 email: mager-at-interchange.ubc.ca -----Original Message----- X-from: winnie.wino-at-gmail.com [mailto:winnie.wino-at-gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 6:20 AM To: mager-at-interchange.ubc.ca
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Title: Sample preparation
Question: Dear Microscopist, I have a few specimens (Charcoal and virgin wood) of which the sizes are 100x100x50(mm) and 30x30x100(mm). What should I prepare for those specimens before bringing them to the Lab for SEM scanning? Can the SEM machine's chamber accomodate such specimens? Should I reduce the size? Thank you and Best Regards. Winnie
I have used serum free media for many cell culture fixations. I think it works fine. After fix I go into CaCo so that I do not have any interactions with my TC media and any post-fix steps. David
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I have read that PIPES offered the lowest } extraction but on the downside a less effecient } buffering. Phosphate buffer does not allow the use of } Ca and Mg, which could help stabilize some structures. } HEPES buffer...well I don't know the downside, perhaps } it offers only advantages ;-)but it is used pretty } scarcely by the electron microscopists. } Some other parameters can be taken into account: the } storage, bench (or fridge) life, } morphology {} immunology, plants {} animals cells and so } on. } } Lets talk about salts! } } Personally I use Cacodylate for classical fixation of } cells for morphology because it has also been used in } the laboratory but I am eager to change. There is } certainly some room for improvements in the morphology } (especially of the membranes). HEPES seems to be a } good candidate. } } Stephane } } __________________________________________________ } Do You Yahoo!? } Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Greetings, Mike Reedy mentioned that he uses MOPS for a buffer at pH 7 for fixations. I have always used PIPES. Has anyone ever compared the performance of these two Good buffers around neutral pH?? Are there reasons to choose one vs the other?
On Oct 11, 2006, at 10:04 AM, baskin-at-bio.umass.edu wrote:
} Mike Reedy mentioned that he uses MOPS for a buffer at pH 7 } for fixations. I have always used PIPES. Has anyone ever compared the } performance of these two Good buffers around neutral pH?? Are there } reasons to choose one vs the other? } Dear Tobias, The ability of a buffer to maintain pH depends on how many groups there are on the molecule that can take up or release H+ and the pK of each of these groups. For most buffers there are one or a few of these groups that have different pKs; e.g. PO4--- with pKs of ~12, ~7, and ~3. I don't know offhand what pKs are available for either MOPS or PIPES, but the closer a pK is to the pH you want, the better the buffer will be at maintaining that pH. The reason for this is easily seen from the mass action law, which can be written
K = [A][H]/[AH]
from which it can be seen that for [H] = K, [A] = [AH], and if [H] = K, then pH = pK. When the protonated and unprotonated species are at equal concentration, the addition of a small amount of acid or base will change the [A]/[AH] ratio less than if they are at unequal concentration. Therefore, the performance of either Good buffer will equal that of the other one if the desired pH is the same amount away from either pK. Another reason to choose one over another is if one of them affects the process you are trying to perform. It may be that one will react with your fixative--which I do not think is the case for MOPS or PIPES and either glut or OsO4. Yours, Bill Tivol, PhD EM Scientist and Manager Cryo-Electron Microscopy Facility Broad Center, Mail Code 114-96 California Institute of Technology Pasadena CA 91125 (626) 395-8833 tivol-at-caltech.edu
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What is your experience with the film camera? How many successful film cassettes do you average between camera jams? Please quote for each TEM model (100CX, 2000FX, 3100, etc).
Thanks, Roseann
Roseann Csencsits, PhD. Donner TEM Facility Manager Lawrence Berkeley Lab 510-486-4548
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I have been reading this thread with interest in the hope of learning something new. The theory of buffers as explained by Bill Tivol, doesn't seem to be useful when applied to electron microscopy. The reason is that we judge the effects of different buffers on their effect on morphology (as Mike Reedy subtly puts it in his message), not on the final pH of the specimens.
Judged on buffering capacity alone, sodium cacodylate would fail miserably as a buffer. The Good buffers (PIPES, HEPES etc) appear to be excellent buffers for keeping solutions at a stable pH. However, even if PIPES or HEPES is used to buffer aldehyde, when the solution encounters biological material there is a sudden drop in pH that is not affected at all by the buffer in use. Anyone who has fixed cell cultures in the presence of medium containing pH indicator can attest to the rapid color change that occurs.
It is worth noting that the pH to which buffers are adjusted, and the pH at which they are most effective, is not always 7.2 or 7.4. For example, the use of PIPES at a pH higher than 6.8 will greatly reduce its buffering capacity.
I liked the idea of comparing the sizes of fixed cells with living cells to determine which concentration of buffer is "best" to use. There was no mention of what the intracellular morphology looked like and if it was acceptable. I am sure that the best concentration will differ between cell types. The great disadvantage of this method for determining "correct' buffer concentrations is that most of our work involves tissues composed of many different cell types that are all attached to each other.
Another issue touched on by Mike Reedy is the state of aldehyde-fixed biological material. Is is really osmotically inactive as assumed (e.g. "...buffer choice need not be physiological.")? Could aqueous solutions of osmium tetroxide be used in post-fixation steps? Are aldehyde-fixed membranes osmotically inactive?
Our final evaluation of buffers will depend on what we are looking at, or looking for, in our specimens. Sometimes we need to extract lots of cytoplasmic components to give high-contrast images. Other times we need to retain as many proteins as possible so that we can perform immunocytochemical labeling. Other important considerations for immunolabeling are the need to retain all antigens at their "natural" site, yet enable complete antibody accessibility to antigens.
For the record, our routine fixation protocols involve glutaraldehyde and sodium cacodylate for morphology, and double-strength aldehyde (formaldehyde or glutaraldehyde, or mixtures of both) in double strength HEPES buffer for immunocytochemistry. The double-strength fixative is added to culture medium, ringer or other physiological medium. There routine fixatives work well for us, but we do not work with sharks, molluscs or plants.
Any EM laboratory involved in many projects may find that one fixation protocol is insufficient for all users. Instead, different protocols involving different buffers gradually evolve in the lab to cope with each specimen as needed. What we need is a good understanding of how buffers and cross-linking chemicals affect the specimens we apply them to.
Regards,
Paul Webster
Paul Webster, Ph.D House Ear Institute 2100 West Third Street Los Angeles, CA 90057 (213) 273 8026 pwebster-at-hei.org
The ability of a buffer to maintain pH depends on how many groups there are on the molecule that can take up or release H+ and the pK of each of these groups. For most buffers there are one or a few of these groups that have different pKs; e.g. PO4--- with pKs of ~12, ~7, and ~3. I don't know offhand what pKs are available for either MOPS or PIPES, but the closer a pK is to the pH you want, the better the buffer will be at maintaining that pH. The reason for this is easily seen from the mass action law, which can be written
K = [A][H]/[AH]
from which it can be seen that for [H] = K, [A] = [AH], and if [H] = K, then pH = pK. When the protonated and unprotonated species are at equal concentration, the addition of a small amount of acid or base will change the [A]/[AH] ratio less than if they are at unequal concentration. Therefore, the performance of either Good buffer will equal that of the other one if the desired pH is the same amount away from either pK. Another reason to choose one over another is if one of them affects the process you are trying to perform. It may be that one will react with your fixative--which I do not think is the case for MOPS or PIPES and either glut or OsO4. Yours, Bill Tivol, PhD
For 40 years we have used the physiological or experimental buffer solution, often with MOPS as the pH buffer, as our main vehicle for primary fixatives composed with aldehydes, aldehyde-tannic-acid, or tannic acid alone, because we believe this offers the best hope for preserving native structure of various muscle structural states (but also effective with other cells and tissues). "Physiological" mostly implies proper ions: for extracellular salines (Na+ at ~100-145 mM; K+ absent or below 2 mM; Mg++ and Ca++ at 1-4 mM); or intracellular rest-state salines (EGTA and no inadvertent Ca++; Mg at ~5-7 mM; K+ (or Na+) up to 150 mM if desired; chloride, propionate, acetate, or methane-sulfonate as anion).
So for intact frog leg muscle (or insect flight muscle!) we used frog Ringer solution, for mammalian muscle we used mammalian Ringer, with either phosphate or MOPS buffer, adjusting pH with a "dirty" (fixative only) pH electrode to discover the amount of alkali or acid needed to restore original pH after adding various fixative at various concentrations. The presence of up to 3 mM calcium and up to 10 mm magnesium, as dictated by various buffers, was essential in Ringer recipes, and presented no problem. We were happy because the fiber x-ray diffraction pattern and the EM itself showed these fixatives to give good preservation of various distinct pre-fixation native structural states, and i think this was not so for our brief long-ago trials of phosphate or s-collidine buffer. We usually ignored adjustments to osmolarity, but if tried, was always done by adding the osmolytge to the formulation, sucrose top Ringer, 500,000 MW dextran to intracellular buffer.
For secondary fixation, buffer choice need not be physiological. For aldehyde-only or aldehyde-TA primary fixation, post-fixing in OsO4 has routinely employed a Maupin-Pollard good-for-actin buffer (0.1M phosphate, pH 6, with 10 mM MgCl2, used ice cold).
Most of our work has been with chemically demembranated ("skinned"; by detergent-glycerol) muscle of rabbit, frog or insect, so we chose various composition of intracellular buffer to keep the organelles happy and in the desired functional state of the muscle machinery (rigor, Mg-ATP relaxed, Mg-ATP-Ca activating, or modified with nucleotide analogs (like AMPPNP) phosphate analogs (like vanadate). We have for 30 years used nothing but 20 mM MOPS buffer (relatively inexpensive, and good for pH 6.5-7.5; we prefer 6.8 for insect) for both the physiological and fixative versions of our solutions, typically with 5 mM each of additives like MgCl2, EGTA, Ca-EGTA, ATP, Na azide (stops microbial growth, arrest ATPase consumption by mitochondria). For years we strictly used potassium salts in preference to sodium to honor the cell's intracellular habit, but lately have slipped away from this dogma without bad results, drifting to more frequent use of sodium (as hydroxide to adjust pH of EGTA, ATP, MOPS, etc. Sometimes we use salt to approximate intracellular ionic strength, typically using KCl (now NaCl) at 100 or 150 ml, but we often use no extra salt at all, because its presence or absence has so far made little or no difference to the fiber x-ray diffraction patterns which are our gold standard for native and preserved structure.
We have always steered clear of Tris because glutaraldehyde reacts with it, changing pH (?? and what else?), and because Tris-buffered pH alters with changing temperature.
0.2% tannic acid alone in the physiological (intracellular type) buffer works well on skinned cells to fix all but soluble components. It is blocked or complexed so it becomes unavailable for fixation when Triton X-100 or PVP are included in the same solution. TA-fix should be followed after rinse-out by uranyl acetate (typically in DI water) or OsO4 (in Maupin-Pollard good-for-actin buffer) as a secondary fixative.
-mike reedy-
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Roseann; My experience is that it is more a function of care and attention to detail of loading film into the cassettes than anything else.
John Mardinly Intel Corporation
Disclaimer: This is the opinion of this individual, not the opinion of Intel Corporation.
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Dear JEOL film camera users:
What is your experience with the film camera? How many successful film cassettes do you average between camera jams? Please quote for each TEM model (100CX, 2000FX, 3100, etc).
Thanks, Roseann
Roseann Csencsits, PhD. Donner TEM Facility Manager Lawrence Berkeley Lab 510-486-4548
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] Fixation problem
Question: I am working with cardiac myocytes. To perform immunofluorescence, I have permeabilized cells with saponin without fixation, and could get nice signal. The signal was blocked when I used blocking peptide (original immunogen for primary antibody). To look at the localization pattern more in detail, I want to do electron microscopy. In this case, I need to fix the cells. To check whether fixation affects antibody interaction, I fixed cells with 4% paraformaldehyde and 0.1% glutaraldehyde, permeabilized cells with saponin, and then performed immunofluorecence. I saw a permeabilization problem with this experiment so that I tried 0.1% triton instead of saponin. Still, I am not getting the same staining pattern that I got from unfixed cells. How can I solve this problem? Can I just try EM?
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We have a Hitachi H-600 TEM, 1983. For the past year we've been operating with a faulty CRT data display unit. Each morning the display would come on for about ten minutes, then it would become unstable and disappear for the rest of the day. Finally it appears to have died completely which makes operating the TEM tricky. Our in-house electrician has had several attempts at fixing the problem but without success. The microscope itself is completely functional so operations such as column alignment, resetting number of unexposed negatives, etc are still possible but have to be done blind. As you can imagine this is frustrating and there is great potential for a mix-up with regard to matching specimens to negative numbers.
I have some questions for you...
Are these CRT data display units unique for this Hitachi model or are units from other models compatible with the H-600? Can CRT units from other electrical equipment be sourced, eg radiology machines? Can new CRT units be bought today that would be compatible? Does anyone have an old working unit that they would be willing to part with? Has anyone had similar experiences with CRT units? Does our unit sound fixable or are we wasting our time?
Thanks,
John Brealey Queen Elizabeth Hospital EM Unit Adelaide South Australia Australia
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I run several JEOL TEMs with film cameras (200CX, 2000FX, 2010, 4000) with a large contingent of new users every year. We do get the occasional jam due to misloaded film cassettes by one of the new users. Apart from that we rarely experience camera jams and I would estimate that at the height of our film use the number of films between jams was well in the 10,000's. Film use has declined over the past few years as we have some digital cameras. As far as I can see the camera mechanism has not changed since our 100B so there is no reason to have a different failure rate on any instrument you listed.
If you are experiencing problems with camera jams then check that your cassettes and boxes are not damaged. Check that the films are firmly held in all four corners when they are loaded, very occasionally we get undersized film that will not fit properly. If these are OK then there may be a problem with your camera mechanism, possibly damaged when freeing off a jammed cassette. If you know how to remove the mechanism check that the leaf springs on the pushers are OK and that the tracks are not damaged.
Ron
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Dear JEOL film camera users:
What is your experience with the film camera? How many successful film cassettes do you average between camera jams? Please quote for each TEM model (100CX, 2000FX, 3100, etc).
Thanks, Roseann
Roseann Csencsits, PhD. Donner TEM Facility Manager Lawrence Berkeley Lab 510-486-4548
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It is not really surprising that you see a difference between the 2 protocols. Please keep in mind that without fixation and with mild permeabilization the antibodies probable have access only to a few compartments of the cell. Using other treatments perhaps allows the antibodies to have better access to the antigens. On the contrary, it is possible that fixation has hidden some antigenic sites. Or perhaps a combination of both effects! Also, be careful using glutaraldehyde in fluorescence since it gives background. I would suggest you try directly in immunoEM and don't lose too much time playing around with protocols because it can be that your antibody simply doesn't work in EM. If you get a signal in EM, you can always discuss its pattern and compare it with the pattern obtained in IF.
Good luck
Stephane
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Email: kychung2-at-wisc.edu Name: Ka Young Chung
Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison
Title-Subject: [Filtered] Fixation problem
Question: I am working with cardiac myocytes. To perform immunofluorescence, I have permeabilized cells with saponin without fixation, and could get nice signal. The signal was blocked when I used blocking peptide (original immunogen for primary antibody). To look at the localization pattern more in detail, I want to do electron microscopy. In this case, I need to fix the cells. To check whether fixation affects antibody interaction, I fixed cells with 4% paraformaldehyde and 0.1% glutaraldehyde, permeabilized cells with saponin, and then performed immunofluorecence. I saw a permeabilization problem with this experiment so that I tried 0.1% triton instead of saponin. Still, I am not getting the same staining pattern that I got from unfixed cells. How can I solve this problem? Can I just try EM?
An important topic. I'd like to step in with a reply to just the point about "Could aqueous solutions of osmium tetroxide be used in post-fixation steps?" Yes. Not only have I known folks who make their OsO4 in distilled water for TEM, I have studied cultured cells in high-resolution SEM using OsO4 in distilled water, not buffer, for post-fixation. Usually with 1% monomeric tannic acid (for plasma membrane preservation), but not always. Works fine. The colligative properties of the plasma membrane seem to be pretty much eliminate by fixation.
pH isn't the only confusing issue here -- osmotic properties are, too. 3% glut is about 300 mOsM itself, more if there are impurities and after adding buffer. Yet, this hypertonicity doesn't seem to cause osmotic problems.
Worse, something I've never seen discussed: what are the osmotic effects of different pHs? Changing the pH will change the flow of ions and water in and out of cells. If a fixative is present as the pH changes, then the changes in the membrane proteins affecting the osmotic properties will be fixed. So potentionally, a correct pH may in fact not be the physiological pH of the living cell, but the pH that maintains the correct osmotic pressure(s) during fixation.
Phil
} Dear all, } } I have been reading this thread with interest in the hope of learning } something new. The theory of buffers as explained by Bill Tivol, doesn't } seem to be useful when applied to electron microscopy. The reason is that we } judge the effects of different buffers on their effect on morphology (as } Mike Reedy subtly puts it in his message), not on the final pH of the } specimens. } } Judged on buffering capacity alone, sodium cacodylate would fail miserably } as a buffer. The Good buffers (PIPES, HEPES etc) appear to be excellent } buffers for keeping solutions at a stable pH. However, even if PIPES or } HEPES is used to buffer aldehyde, when the solution encounters biological } material there is a sudden drop in pH that is not affected at all by the } buffer in use. Anyone who has fixed cell cultures in the presence of medium } containing pH indicator can attest to the rapid color change that occurs. } } It is worth noting that the pH to which buffers are adjusted, and the pH at } which they are most effective, is not always 7.2 or 7.4. For example, the } use of PIPES at a pH higher than 6.8 will greatly reduce its buffering } capacity. } } I liked the idea of comparing the sizes of fixed cells with living cells to } determine which concentration of buffer is "best" to use. There was no } mention of what the intracellular morphology looked like and if it was } acceptable. I am sure that the best concentration will differ between cell } types. The great disadvantage of this method for determining "correct' } buffer concentrations is that most of our work involves tissues composed of } many different cell types that are all attached to each other. } } Another issue touched on by Mike Reedy is the state of aldehyde-fixed } biological material. Is is really osmotically inactive as assumed (e.g. } "...buffer choice need not be physiological.")? Could aqueous solutions of } osmium tetroxide be used in post-fixation steps? Are aldehyde-fixed } membranes osmotically inactive? } } Our final evaluation of buffers will depend on what we are looking at, or } looking for, in our specimens. Sometimes we need to extract lots of } cytoplasmic components to give high-contrast images. Other times we need to } retain as many proteins as possible so that we can perform } immunocytochemical labeling. Other important considerations for } immunolabeling are the need to retain all antigens at their "natural" site, } yet enable complete antibody accessibility to antigens. } } For the record, our routine fixation protocols involve glutaraldehyde and } sodium cacodylate for morphology, and double-strength aldehyde (formaldehyde } or glutaraldehyde, or mixtures of both) in double strength HEPES buffer for } immunocytochemistry. The double-strength fixative is added to culture } medium, ringer or other physiological medium. There routine fixatives work } well for us, but we do not work with sharks, molluscs or plants. } } Any EM laboratory involved in many projects may find that one fixation } protocol is insufficient for all users. Instead, different protocols } involving different buffers gradually evolve in the lab to cope with each } specimen as needed. What we need is a good understanding of how buffers and } cross-linking chemicals affect the specimens we apply them to. } } Regards, } } Paul Webster } } } Paul Webster, Ph.D } House Ear Institute } 2100 West Third Street } Los Angeles, CA 90057 } (213) 273 8026 } pwebster-at-hei.org } } } } } } } ____________________________________________________________________ } } The ability of a buffer to maintain pH depends on how many groups } there are on the molecule that can take up or release H+ and the pK of } each of these groups. For most buffers there are one or a few of these } groups that have different pKs; e.g. PO4--- with pKs of ~12, ~7, and } ~3. I don't know offhand what pKs are available for either MOPS or } PIPES, but the closer a pK is to the pH you want, the better the buffer } will be at maintaining that pH. The reason for this is easily seen } from the mass action law, which can be written } } K = [A][H]/[AH] } } from which it can be seen that for [H] = K, [A] = [AH], and if [H] = K, } then pH = pK. When the protonated and unprotonated species are at } equal concentration, the addition of a small amount of acid or base } will change the [A]/[AH] ratio less than if they are at unequal } concentration. Therefore, the performance of either Good buffer will } equal that of the other one if the desired pH is the same amount away } from either pK. Another reason to choose one over another is if one of } them affects the process you are trying to perform. It may be that one } will react with your fixative--which I do not think is the case for } MOPS or PIPES and either glut or OsO4. } Yours, } Bill Tivol, PhD } } ___________________________________________________________________ } } For 40 years we have used the physiological or experimental buffer } solution, often with MOPS as the pH buffer, as our main vehicle for } primary fixatives composed with aldehydes, aldehyde-tannic-acid, or } tannic acid alone, because we believe this offers the best hope for } preserving native structure of various muscle structural states (but } also effective with other cells and tissues). "Physiological" mostly } implies proper ions: for extracellular salines (Na+ at ~100-145 mM; } K+ absent or below 2 mM; Mg++ and Ca++ at 1-4 mM); or intracellular } rest-state salines (EGTA and no inadvertent Ca++; Mg at ~5-7 mM; K+ } (or Na+) up to 150 mM if desired; chloride, propionate, acetate, or } methane-sulfonate as anion). } } So for intact frog leg muscle (or insect flight muscle!) we used frog } Ringer solution, for mammalian muscle we used mammalian Ringer, with } either phosphate or MOPS buffer, adjusting pH with a "dirty" } (fixative only) pH electrode to discover the amount of alkali or acid } needed to restore original pH after adding various fixative at } various concentrations. The presence of up to 3 mM calcium and up to } 10 mm magnesium, as dictated by various buffers, was essential in } Ringer recipes, and presented no problem. We were happy because the } fiber x-ray diffraction pattern and the EM itself showed these } fixatives to give good preservation of various distinct pre-fixation } native structural states, and i think this was not so for our brief } long-ago trials of phosphate or s-collidine buffer. We usually } ignored adjustments to osmolarity, but if tried, was always done by } adding the osmolytge to the formulation, sucrose top Ringer, 500,000 } MW dextran to intracellular buffer. } } For secondary fixation, buffer choice need not be physiological. For } aldehyde-only or aldehyde-TA primary fixation, post-fixing in OsO4 } has routinely employed a Maupin-Pollard good-for-actin buffer (0.1M } phosphate, pH 6, with 10 mM MgCl2, used ice cold). } } Most of our work has been with chemically demembranated ("skinned"; } by detergent-glycerol) muscle of rabbit, frog or insect, so we chose } various composition of intracellular buffer to keep the organelles } happy and in the desired functional state of the muscle machinery } (rigor, Mg-ATP relaxed, Mg-ATP-Ca activating, or modified with } nucleotide analogs (like AMPPNP) phosphate analogs (like vanadate). } We have for 30 years used nothing but 20 mM MOPS buffer (relatively } inexpensive, and good for pH 6.5-7.5; we prefer 6.8 for insect) for } both the physiological and fixative versions of our solutions, } typically with 5 mM each of additives like MgCl2, EGTA, Ca-EGTA, ATP, } Na azide (stops microbial growth, arrest ATPase consumption by } mitochondria). For years we strictly used potassium salts in } preference to sodium to honor the cell's intracellular habit, but } lately have slipped away from this dogma without bad results, } drifting to more frequent use of sodium (as hydroxide to adjust pH of } EGTA, ATP, MOPS, etc. Sometimes we use salt to approximate } intracellular ionic strength, typically using KCl (now NaCl) at 100 } or 150 ml, but we often use no extra salt at all, because its } presence or absence has so far made little or no difference to the } fiber x-ray diffraction patterns which are our gold standard for } native and preserved structure. } } We have always steered clear of Tris because glutaraldehyde reacts } with it, changing pH (?? and what else?), and because Tris-buffered } pH alters with changing temperature. } } 0.2% tannic acid alone in the physiological (intracellular type) } buffer works well on skinned cells to fix all but soluble components. } It is blocked or complexed so it becomes unavailable for fixation } when Triton X-100 or PVP are included in the same solution. TA-fix } should be followed after rinse-out by uranyl acetate (typically in DI } water) or OsO4 (in Maupin-Pollard good-for-actin buffer) as a } secondary fixative. } } -mike reedy- } } } ==============================Original Headers============================== } 31, 18 -- From PWebster-at-hei.org Wed Oct 11 16:18:24 2006 } 31, 18 -- Received: from hi0sml1.hei.org } (House-Ear-Institute-1114861.cust-rtr.pacbell.net [71.136.31.242]) } 31, 18 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with } ESMTP id k9BLIOUn006955 } 31, 18 -- for {microscopy-at-msa.microscopy.com} ; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 } 16:18:24 -0500 } 31, 18 -- Received: from 10.10.42.113 ([10.10.42.113]) by } hi0sml1.hei.org ([10.10.40.106]) with Microsoft Exchange Server } HTTP-DAV ; } 31, 18 -- Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:18:23 +0000 } 31, 18 -- User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.5.060620 } 31, 18 -- Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 14:18:23 -0700 } 31, 18 -- Subject: Re: debating about buffers for TEM fixation } 31, 18 -- From: "Webster, Paul" {PWebster-at-hei.org} } 31, 18 -- To: {microscopy-at-msa.microscopy.com} } 31, 18 -- Message-ID: {C152ADAF.C5ED%PWebster-at-hei.org} } 31, 18 -- Thread-Topic: debating about buffers for TEM fixation } 31, 18 -- Thread-Index: AcbteshdByXfOlluEdua3wANk7Zh7g== } 31, 18 -- Mime-version: 1.0 } 31, 18 -- Content-type: text/plain; } 31, 18 -- charset="US-ASCII" } 31, 18 -- Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit } ==============================End of - Headers==============================
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Email: U.J.Potter Name: Ursula Potter
Organization: University of Bath
Title-Subject: [Filtered] Neg carriers jamming in JEOL EM
Question: Dear All,
I managed to erase Rosannes message about negative cassettes jamming in JEOL TEM film cameras before I had replied - so hope she sees it here.
We have had this problem and found it was due to warped cassettes. We scratched a very fine number on each cassette and then found it was the same cassette or couple of cassettes causing the problem every time. Since numbering the cassettes and weeding out the troublesome ones we have had very few jamming problems.
Hope this helps.
Ursula ------------------------- CEOS University of Bath UK
I cannot recall having any camera jams with our JEOL 2011. Our older Philips EM420 has periodic jams- usually due to bent film plates or poorly loaded film.
Cheers Roger A. Ristau, PhD Electron Microscopy Specialist Institute of Materials Science 97 North Eagleville Road University of Connecticut Storrs, CT 06269
} } Dear JEOL film camera users: } } What is your experience with the film camera? } How many successful film cassettes do you average between camera jams? } Please quote for each TEM model (100CX, 2000FX, 3100, etc). } } Thanks, } Roseann } } Roseann Csencsits, PhD. } Donner TEM Facility Manager } Lawrence Berkeley Lab } 510-486-4548
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Roseann I have a JEOL 100 CX II, that was installed in 1982. I've been its guardian since 1988. The only time I experience camera jams is when one of my users decides to be "helpful" and reload the cassettes for me. Inevitably, one plate in the pile will have a loose corner that catches in the mechanism. As a rule, I just don't let anyone other than me and my technician load the film, and we are fine. A little care in the darkroom goes a long way. Lee -- Leona Cohen-Gould, M.S. Sr. Staff Associate Director, Electron Microscopy & Histology Core Facility Manager, Optical Microscopy Core Facility Joan & Sanford I. Weill Medical College of Cornell University voice (212)746-6146 fax (212)746-8175 http://www.cornellcelldevbiology.org http://www.cornellbiochem.org
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Hi Roseann, I also have an ancient 120CX (installed 1979) as well as a newer 2011. I did have problems with the camera on the old machine occasionally (perhaps once every 10,000 plates or so), and the problem was invariably caused by my putting the film carriers in the wrong way round or not making sure the film was in the carrier properly. I find concentration does tend to drift after the first few thousand... We ran two film boxes with 50 plates, but just filling the empty one with the plates we had just taken, typically between 10 and 20 at a time. So I guess we had a problem maybe once every 500 cassette swaps. However getting the thing unstuck did also cause damage to one of the 'nails' once, and I took the camera unit out of the microscope to fix it. (Also, I have to admit, I was curious as to how it worked!) If you are having a lot of problems it may be worth it for you - it is not difficult and can be done with the machine running. It has been a while but I can give you some instructions if you want. When you have the unit out of the microscope you can feed through all of your carriers one at a time, if you like, and see if any particular ones are causing a problem. I have no problems with the 2011 camera, but I have taken less than 20 negatives in 3 years (all digital)!
Cheers
Richard
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I have been trying to help a student do Cryo-SEM on cultured T-cells - he extracts human blood, collects T-cells, cultures them in a medium containing serum and then exposes them for varying lengths of time to chemokines. After culturing the cells were washed briefly in PBS (to remove serum)then fixed in 1% glutaraldehyde in PBS for 15mins then applied to a filter where as much liquid as possible is removed immediately before freezing in nitrogen slush and carrying out Cryo-SEM. We have the problem that the cells appear in the SEM round, smooth & without psuedopodia!
We have previously done TEM on the same cells (different extraction) and had good results showing cells with interesting psuedopodia. The difference with the TEM prep was that the fixative was added to the culture medium and the cells fixed for 2hrs at room temp then overnight in the fridge.
We intend to try conventional SEM on the cells next using the initial TEM prep method then Critical Point Drying after dehydration. However I am concerned that serum will be fixed to the surface of the cells if they are not washed prior to fixation.
I would appreciate any advice on the above.
Regards Ursula ------------------------
Ursula J. Potter Centre for Electron Optical Studies (CEOS) Building 3 West 2.15 The University of Bath Claverton Down Bath BA2 7AY UK Tel: 01225 385651 Email: U.J.Potter-at-bath.ac.uk
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I have learnt a lot about buffers used in fixative and in general about buffers in sample preparation. This is very helpful discussion. We work with mollusks (Oysters) and our oysters are reared at 860 mOSM of sea water, and a pH of near about 8.2, the cells I look at in SEM/TEM have very fine pseudopodia and the preservation of this structure in my primary concern. Could any one please suggest a buffer that works best at a pH higher than 8? After making up the buffers we measure the osmolality and adjust it, but now from the discussion I feel the need to know a buffer that can work at a higher pH.
Thank you,
Neeraj V. Gohad.
Graduate Research Assistant Department of Biological Sciences, 132 Long Hall, Clemson University, Clemson, SC-29634
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Neeraj, In the late 1970's I worked with Mitilus and Thyone sperm in the lab of Lew Tilney. At that time the primary fixative that I used was 1% glutaraldehyde, if I remember correctly, in filtered sea water. The samples were then washed in Millonig's Phosphate Buffer and post fixed in 1% OsO4 in Phosphate Buffer -at- a pH 6.2. on ice and in the dark.
My initial reaction when I received the protocol was very strong but it worked well in this system. It may work for you also.
Pat Connelly EM Core Facility NHLBI/NIH Bethesda, MD 20892 301-496-3491
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Roseann, I just had a jam on a 100CX II caused by someone loading a plate in backwards and subsequent damage to a spring. This was the first in at least a year with 40--50 film loads and a couple thousand films exposed. I would rate the system as very reliable. Larry
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On Oct 12, 2006, at 8:43 AM, ngohad-at-CLEMSON.EDU wrote:
} I have learnt a lot about buffers used in fixative and in general about } buffers in sample preparation. This is very helpful discussion. We } work } with mollusks (Oysters) and our oysters are reared at 860 mOSM of sea } water, } and a pH of near about 8.2, the cells I look at in SEM/TEM have very } fine } pseudopodia and the preservation of this structure in my primary } concern. } Could any one please suggest a buffer that works best at a pH higher } than 8? } After making up the buffers we measure the osmolality and adjust it, } but now } from the discussion I feel the need to know a buffer that can work at a } higher pH. } Dear Neeraj, I don't have access to a table of the pKs of all the Good buffers, but I seem to remember that there are some with pKs in the range you want. Failing that, the Handbook of Chemistry and Physics gives the pH for a .1N solution of NaCO3 as 8.4--of course, many cations will precipitate bicarbonate--morpholine has a pK of 8.33, several dipeptides have pKs in this range with leucylglycine at 8.28, and many alkaloids have pKs near 8.2, but explaining why you want morphine (8.21), strychnine (8.26), or codeine (8.21) may not be worth it. Yours, Bill Tivol, PhD EM Scientist and Manager Cryo-Electron Microscopy Facility Broad Center, Mail Code 114-96 California Institute of Technology Pasadena CA 91125 (626) 395-8833 tivol-at-caltech.edu
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Try skipping the glut fix. You're cryofixing the cells, so a chemical fixation should not also be needed. I assume the cells are cultured on something nice and thin and heat conductive, yes? Little metal coupons, formvar-coated TEM grids, bits of coverslip sized to the SEM stage before culturing, or the like. Rinse the cells briefly with serum-free buffer, best is the same buffer they're cultured in, just without serum. Make sure the temperature of the wash buffer is the same as the temperature of the incubation medium. Remove from the buffer and immediatey plunge into the slush nitrogen. Don't blot off the excess buffer too much -- just quick touch of the edge of the grid, etc.. There won't be much, and rapid plunging into slush nitrogen freezes fast enough that a thin layer of buffer won't interfer with good freezing. The buffer water gets vacuum sublimated during cryocoating, and if you're looking at the cells uncoated, they can still be sublimated. The conventional fixation/CPD method also works well, but I strongly suggest adding 1% monomeric tannic acid to the 1% glutaraldehyde as well as to the osmium (although OsO4 is not necessarily needed for high-resolution low-voltage SEM of cells). You are correct, the serum must be washed away however you fix the cells. Otherwise, you get these wonderful, stringy strands of serum proteins obscuring everything. Especially with chemical fixation.
Phil
} Dear All, } } I have been trying to help a student do Cryo-SEM on cultured T-cells - he } extracts human blood, collects T-cells, cultures them in a medium } containing serum and then exposes them for varying lengths of time to } chemokines. After culturing the cells were washed briefly in PBS (to } remove serum)then fixed in 1% glutaraldehyde in PBS for 15mins then applied } to a filter where as much liquid as possible is removed immediately before } freezing in nitrogen slush and carrying out Cryo-SEM. We have the problem } that the cells appear in the SEM round, smooth & without psuedopodia! } } We have previously done TEM on the same cells (different extraction) and } had good results showing cells with interesting psuedopodia. The difference } with the TEM prep was that the fixative was added to the culture medium and } the cells fixed for 2hrs at room temp then overnight in the fridge. } } We intend to try conventional SEM on the cells next using the initial TEM } prep method then Critical Point Drying after dehydration. However I am } concerned that serum will be fixed to the surface of the cells if they are } not washed prior to fixation. } } I would appreciate any advice on the above. } } Regards } Ursula } ------------------------ } } } Ursula J. Potter } Centre for Electron Optical Studies (CEOS) } Building 3 West 2.15 } The University of Bath } Claverton Down } Bath BA2 7AY } UK } Tel: 01225 385651 } Email: U.J.Potter-at-bath.ac.uk -- Philip Oshel Microscopy Facility Supervisor Biology Department Central Michigan University 024C Brooks Hall Mt. Pleasant, MI 48859 voice: (989) 774-3576 dept. fax: (989) 774-3462
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Dear All, I got a mimosa as a present and I am very fascinated by this plant. I would like to study the function of the movement of the leaves with SEM and TEM. Is anybody out there who has a fixation protocoll or who did work on this plant? Any images available in the net?
Terrific little article on buffers, Good (= Good's) buffers with table or working range and pKs in wikipediat at http://stanxterm.aecom.yu.edu/wiki/index.php?page=About_buffers -mike-
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Dear TEM users, We are a pathology/hospital based TEM facility equipped with a Jeol 1010 electron microscope. We would like to change to a digital camera system, since we find that wet-film technology is slow and expensive. I am hoping that there are users out there that can provide me with opinions about digital camera systems to help educate me about what they like, and what they think is important in a TEM digital camera and its associated computer [hardware/software] system.
I have never used a TEM digital camera, so I have no experience as such with any digital camera system, other than consumer digital cameras, so it's hard for me to judge the merits of a digital camera without "getting my feet wet" so to speak, and trying it out.
I'm open to suggestions, thoughts, and opinions of experienced users or any comments on this topic.
Garry Burgess
Charge Technologist Electron Microscopy Department of Pathology Winnipeg, Canada
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We are about to scrap an Akashi 002A TEM and a 1970's vintage Balzers BAF300 freeze fracture apparatus. Before we do however, is there anyone out there who would like any specific parts or components from either of these instruments. Perhaps to keep one you have going.
You pay the cost of freight.
Regards
Allan
Allan Mitchell Otago Centre for Electron Microscopy Department of Anatomy and Structural Biology School of Medical Sciences P.O. Box 913 Dunedin New Zealand
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Our facility is used both for research and pathology/hospital work. We have a digital camera with telescope (!) software for image collection which I find truly frustrating. You should get the highest resolution camera that you can (the pathologists here want 2K by 2K), but in my opinion you should also give the software interface high priority. I used an AMT camera at my last position and was very happy with the simplicity of use as well as the (virtually) live imaging capabilities. Most people hardly used the fluorescent screen once set up with the camera. Taking a picture was a matter of pushing an onscreen "button" and what you saw is what you got. The software was also calibrated with the microscope and didn't require manually annotating each image with the scale bar. My big complaint with that system was it was only 1K by 1K but you can easily do much better now. Kim
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I'm sure you are going to get a number of answers to your question. As a manufacturer of these cameras, let me point out a few things that I think might help you. I don't want to make this into a "commercial" so I will stay away from specifics and try to provide some generic information that applies to all manufacturers. If some of this sounds too commercial, I apologize. It is not my intention.
1) TEM cameras come in two flavors: Bottom mounted and Side-mounted. The bottom-mount cameras are in general better for high-resolution imaging, while the side-mount cameras give you a better field of view. However, I would not automatically dismiss the bottom-mount cameras, as there are ways to overcome the smaller field of view (automatic image montaging), and you might find that a bottom-mount camera is better for your needs. Bottom-mount cameras are typically more expensive, so your budget will play a significant role.
2) Throughput. Most pathology departments we have talked to put a premium on efficiency so that they can work on as many cases as possible per day. If that is the case for you also, the live speed of the camera is important. It is a lot faster if you can work with the camera in a live mode, then simply push a button to snap a picture, than to work on the microscope in the traditional way (binoculars), then switch to the camera (insert in beam or lift screen), then wait for a few seconds to take a picture. If the picture didn't work out, you would have to go back to the binoculars, adjust the microscope, and start over again. A reasonable fast camera (10 frames per second) let you work on the screen computer screen directly.
3) Organization. Since digital images come cheap, users tend to take more pictures. If you have multiple users it can get quite busy on the hard disk, and you will have to implement some structure to keep users, cases, tissues, etc. apart. Here it might be advantageous to have a way of organizing your images in a database. If that is important to you, make sure that you are not missing out on that later.
4) Other instruments: Most labs have other instruments that are used for the same sample. For example, a grossing station for taking pictures of the tissue and a light microscope for color pictures. If you have that, it might be advantageous to select a system that allows information sharing and the same user interface between electron microscope and other instruments.
5) Hospital. Recently, there has been a push by pathologists to use workflow oriented software for their work, similar to what the radiologists have done for years. If this applies to you, make sure that you have an option to interface with HIS or PACS systems.
6) Reports: In most pathology labs, a technician acquires the images and hands them to the pathologist who then makes a diagnosis based on the images. This can be a critical step. Some pathologists are very particulate how the images need to look like (contrast, brightness, magnification, even paper), others work with multiple formats. Whatever is the case, you need to anticipate this. If the pathologist insists on paper prints in a certain format, the printer becomes an important part of the system. It needs to be fast, and it has to have the right tint. That's not easy to find and you need to talk to the system manufacturers for help. You might also ask the vendors about report capabilities of their software. Predefined and customized reports make it a lot easier to have the "right" format for the pathologist. A digital system, however, allows to get rid of the paper altogether. If you use a database for your images, you can probably install some software on the pathologists desktop computer, they can quickly find the images and make a diagnosis on the computer. If you think that this might be a possibility, ask the vendors about this option.
7) Support: Make sure that you can get good support for your system. Nothing is more frustrating than having to go back to film because you can't get the support you need.
8) Microscope tuning: For newer instruments, there is often an option for tuning the microscope automatically. This can help save time and make imaging easier for new staff. If that is important to you, find out if the software supports tuning the microscope.
9) Advanced features: If you require advanced features such as Tomography, make sure the system you buy supports it, or at least supports a file format that can be accepted by the third party software you use for the advanced features. In most pathology situations this is not of prime importance, though.
Ok, that's all I want to say right now. Sorry for rambling...
Michael Bode, Ph.D.
General Manager
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Dear TEM users, We are a pathology/hospital based TEM facility equipped with a Jeol 1010 electron microscope. We would like to change to a digital camera system, since we find that wet-film technology is slow and expensive. I am hoping that there are users out there that can provide me with opinions about digital camera systems to help educate me about what they like, and what they think is important in a TEM digital camera and its associated computer [hardware/software] system.
I have never used a TEM digital camera, so I have no experience as such with any digital camera system, other than consumer digital cameras, so it's hard for me to judge the merits of a digital camera without "getting my feet wet" so to speak, and trying it out.
I'm open to suggestions, thoughts, and opinions of experienced users or any comments on this topic.
Garry Burgess
Charge Technologist Electron Microscopy Department of Pathology Winnipeg, Canada
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Hi All, By early next year, we will have a surplus Cambridge 250 Mk3 SEM with a Link model E5431 EDS detector [all purchased in 1986] available very cheap to a good home! This SEM is still in operating condition and may be of interest to anyone who is still using an SEM of this model for spare parts, etc. Contact me if you are interested in this equipment. You would have to pay the cost of freight. Regards,
Doug Hopcroft Electron Microscope Unit, Institute of Molecular BioSciences, Massey University, Private Bag 11 222, Palmerston North, New Zealand. Phone 06 356 9099 ext.81098
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Can someone suggest help with sections falling off of Ni grids during Immuno gold staining? Grids are clean and sections are dried overnight to 3 days prior to staining. I have not yet tried a pap pen to adhere the sections...but I'm looking at my "Coat-Quick "G" grid coating pen and beginning to ask.... Why not? Any reasons not to use it?
Thanks, Linda
Linda M. Fox Loyola University Stritch School of Medicine Core Imaging Facility 2160 S. First Ave. Maywood, Il 60153 Bld. 102 Room 0617 1-708-216-3395 lfox1-at-lumc.edu
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There's also a useful booklet from Calbiochem called (you guessed it) Buffers: A guide for the preparation and use of buffers in biological systems. I have the "new" 1995 edition, but it has all the Good buffers, recipes, comments about other issues such as cation chelation, notes on protein pI, etc. Rosemary
} From: mike.reedy-at-cellbio.duke.edu } Reply-To: mike.reedy-at-cellbio.duke.edu } Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:32:18 -0500 } To: rosemary.white-at-csiro.au } Subject: [Microscopy] Re: SEM/TEM-Buffer for a higher pH } } } } } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } The Microscopy ListServer -- CoSponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver } On-Line Help http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } Terrific little article on buffers, Good (= Good's) buffers with } table or working range and pKs in wikipediat at } http://stanxterm.aecom.yu.edu/wiki/index.php?page=About_buffers } -mike- } } } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } The Microscopy ListServer -- CoSponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver } } On-Line Help http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } } } } } On Oct 12, 2006, at 8:43 AM, ngohad-at-CLEMSON.EDU wrote: } } } } } I have learnt a lot about buffers used in fixative and in general about } } } buffers in sample preparation. This is very helpful discussion. We } } } work } } } with mollusks (Oysters) and our oysters are reared at 860 mOSM of sea } } } water, } } } and a pH of near about 8.2, the cells I look at in SEM/TEM have very } } } fine } } } pseudopodia and the preservation of this structure in my primary } } } concern. } } } Could any one please suggest a buffer that works best at a pH higher } } } than 8? } } } After making up the buffers we measure the osmolality and adjust it, } } } but now } } } from the discussion I feel the need to know a buffer that can work at a } } } higher pH. } } } } } Dear Neeraj, } } I don't have access to a table of the pKs of all the Good buffers, but } } I seem to remember that there are some with pKs in the range you want. } } Failing that, the Handbook of Chemistry and Physics gives the pH for a } } .1N solution of NaCO3 as 8.4--of course, many cations will precipitate } } bicarbonate--morpholine has a pK of 8.33, several dipeptides have pKs } } in this range with leucylglycine at 8.28, and many alkaloids have pKs } } near 8.2, but explaining why you want morphine (8.21), strychnine } } (8.26), or codeine (8.21) may not be worth it. } } Yours, } } Bill Tivol, PhD } } EM Scientist and Manager } } Cryo-Electron Microscopy Facility } } Broad Center, Mail Code 114-96 } } California Institute of Technology } } Pasadena CA 91125 } } (626) 395-8833 } } tivol-at-caltech.edu } } } } } } ==============================Original Headers============================== } } 4, 22 -- From tivol-at-caltech.edu Thu Oct 12 12:32:28 2006 } } 4, 22 -- Received: from outgoing-mail.its.caltech.edu } } (outgoing-mail.its.caltech.edu [131.215.239.19]) } } 4, 22 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with } } ESMTP id k9CHWSdd019399 } } 4, 22 -- for {microscopy-at-msa.microscopy.com} ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 } } 12:32:28 -0500 } } 4, 22 -- Received: from fire-dog.caltech.edu (fire-dog [192.168.1.4]) } } 4, 22 -- by earth-ox-postvirus (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3DD310A160 } } 4, 22 -- for {microscopy-at-msa.microscopy.com} ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 } } 10:32:27 -0700 (PDT) } } 4, 22 -- Received: from [192.168.159.233] (jpix-01.caltech.edu } } [131.215.2.133]) } } 4, 22 -- by earth-ox.its.caltech.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F60109DCC } } 4, 22 -- for {microscopy-at-msa.microscopy.com} ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 } } 10:32:25 -0700 (PDT) } } 4, 22 -- Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) } } 4, 22 -- In-Reply-To: {200610121543.k9CFhGta018085-at-ns.microscopy.com} } } 4, 22 -- References: {200610121543.k9CFhGta018085-at-ns.microscopy.com} } } 4, 22 -- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed } } 4, 22 -- Message-Id: {08661d9a0eb4733694944758640e4291-at-caltech.edu} } } 4, 22 -- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit } } 4, 22 -- From: Bill Tivol {tivol-at-caltech.edu} } } 4, 22 -- Subject: Re: [Microscopy] SEM/TEM-Buffer for a higher pH } } 4, 22 -- Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:36:32 -0700 } } 4, 22 -- To: microscopy-at-msa.microscopy.com } } 4, 22 -- X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) } } 4, 22 -- X-Spam-Scanned: at Caltech-ITS on fire-dog by amavisd-2.3.3 } } ==============================End of - Headers============================== } } } -- } -mike reedy- } } ************************ } Michael K. 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Considering that plants have 'rigid' cell walls, its amazing how they achieve sometimes very rapid movement!
I came across a paper on Mimosa pudica a couple of years ago, in relation to the anatomy of the motor organs at the bases of the prtiole, rachis and pinnule. The paper focuses on the vascular tissue, but its a start:
Fleurat-Lessard and Bonnemain (1978) Structural and ultrastructural charactersitics of the vascular apparatus of the sensitive plant (Mimosa pudica L.) Protoplasma 94: 127-143
Hope this helps,
Mark
Mark Talbot CSIRO Plant Industry GPO Box 1600 Canberra, ACT 2601 mark.talbot-at-csiro.au ph: 02-6246 5256 fax: 02-6246 5334
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Michael, I googled neslab and got www.neslab.com . They're apparently part of the Thermo family now (as is nearly everyone in the EM accessories industry). There were also a huge number of used Neslab chillers listed. My customers have generally had good luck with their products and I've found their service to be quite responsive and helpful (along with Haskris).
No stake, just like their stuff.
Ken Converse owner
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] chillers
Question: Hello I need a few companies who would sell used/ refurbished water chillers/recirculators. I need a supply for my LEO 1530 FESEM Does anyone know the heat capaciy required? Does anyone know the Neslabs website or contact info? Thank You M Delannoy 410 955-1365
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Chillers....a really interesting area and quite surprising.
The Thermo units I think across the board have 0.5 gallon reservoirs. If your flow rate is really low, this should not be an issue. I think like .5GPH or so which is what the FEI systems use. They can do this because their systems dump heat into the area where the SEM and expansion racks are located. Zeiss takes a different approach to cooling. They use the Haskris chillers with 5 gallon reservoirs and add some additional interesting options. A key one is the hot gas bypass.
Myself and others have second-guessed the Zeiss folks and come out with the short end of the stick. The hot gas bypass is a feature that dumps hot refrigerant back into the reservoir thus causing the compressor to not shut off. The net results of this are that the compressor rarely shuts off and water temperature at high (30GPM or H, not sure) flow is constant. Also, the chiller takes most all of the SEM plinth heat out to where the chiller is. So, if located in different rooms, the SEM room is easy to cool.
Another factor is that the compressor does not short cycle. This is fatal to the compressor if it does short cycle--on and off in a short period of time. The start relay will eventually burn out and require replacement of the whole compressor unit if this happens. Short cycling happens when the temperature setting has hysterisis. E. g., 65F - 67F. When the water reaches 67F, the compressor starts and cools the water to 65F then shuts off. Depending on the heat load, this can happen very frequently. With low demand systems like FEI, the compressors see the same thing but seem to take it in stride. The Tecumseh compressors in the Haskris chillers apparently do not like this.
Anyway, Haskris has excellent customer service from my experience and the Thermo units are also good for their applications. So, I guess that it just "depends."
Disclaimer: blah, blah.
gary g.
At 04:32 PM 10/12/2006, you wrote:
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Our newer EFTEM has been dead for a few weeks, so I got our venerable old Zeiss 10/A going. This meant loading in old film from 2001, cleaning out the darkroom, making up old (and black) D-19, and generally stepping back into the past. Amazingly, the images are great! We've been very happy with them; giddy, even! However, our stash of old film is nearly gone, and I remember the rant on this list a couple of years ago about the new, "improved" Kodak 4489. Indeed, one user bought new film (no instruction sheet included!) and new D-19 (new plastic packaging), and we are terribly unhappy with the results. I went back through the List's archives, and we tried all the tricks and patiently tried all kinds of dilutions of developer, development times, exposures, etc., all with poor results. We're not getting uneven development; our agitation seems to be fine. It seems that the response curve of the new film is more linear instead of the traditional S-shape, and we're not getting good detail in the darker blacks and whiter whites. And the film seems to have a brown cast!
I would be interested in hearing how any of you have been dealing with this, especially within the past year.
Mahalo, Tina
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I am doing fundamental research with a Megaview III digital camera from Olympus-SIS imaging (side-mounted camera). I find this material just fantastic. No need to observe on the fluorescent screen, with several advantages: - You can take a picture immediately: find a field, take a picture. 1 second later you have your results and can adjust if needed. - the camera being much more sensitive that your eyes on the fluorescent screen, you can reduce the dose of the beam, meaning less damage to your material and better contrast. - Your can organize your results immediately: no need to take notes, numerate your negative, calculate the magnification...
In addition to the camera comes a great software which allows you to organize very efficiently your pictures in databases and reports. The software also allows all sorts of analysis and calculations from your pictures. You want more? Well actually you get more, since the technical assistance is really efficient too!
Important things to consider are the resolution of the camera (although I wonder why a pathologist would need the highest resolution possible - it is an open question, i am not pathologist) and the horizontal transfer of the informations between the camera software and other software used in your hospital
Regards,
Stephane
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Dear TEM users, We are a pathology/hospital based TEM facility equipped with a Jeol 1010 electron microscope. We would like to change to a digital camera system, since we find that wet-film technology is slow and expensive. I am hoping that there are users out there that can provide me with opinions about digital camera systems to help educate me about what they like, and what they think is important in a TEM digital camera and its associated computer [hardware/software] system.
I have never used a TEM digital camera, so I have no experience as such with any digital camera system, other than consumer digital cameras, so it's hard for me to judge the merits of a digital camera without "getting my feet wet" so to speak, and trying it out.
I'm open to suggestions, thoughts, and opinions of experienced users or any comments on this topic.
Garry Burgess
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] Horizontal lines on a Gatan slow-scan TEM camera
Question: Hello. We recently recieved an H-8100 with a bottom mount Gatan slow-scan CCD cooled camera Model 794 multi-scan camera). Before it left its old location the camera was functioning normally, but when it arrived here, it developed some problems, in particular, horizontal lines running across the acquisition screen in all 3 modes. The image that is projected on the camera can be observed between the lines. Has anyone had experience with this problem before. I would appreciate any suggestions before sending the camera back to Gatan for repairs. Thanks for any advice or comments. Mark
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] Surplus DS130 LaB6 SEM
Question: Dear All, we have a Topcon DS130 SEM, with LaB6 filament, in operating condition, available very cheap to interested parties. This instrument has in-lens imaging as well as conventional below-the-lens imaging. Other features as well. Please inquire.
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] Electron Microscopist Salary
Question: I am trying to hire an electron microscopist who has 3-5 years of research and technical experience using TEM. I am having difficulties getting past HR who want to pay this techmician far less than I think reasonable for the position. Can anyone provide me with salary ranges suggested for RA-I type positions, in a university setting, for electron microspists.
I never had any problems with the new 4489 film. I developed it in D-19, diluted 1:2, for 4 min 15 seconds at 70 F. Gentle agitation for the first 30 seconds, then for 5 seconds every 30 seconds. Rinse, fix and wash as usual. They only difference is that I make my D-19 (and all of my other B&W developers) from scratch. Not from the Kodak package, I have the formula, each of the raw ingredients and I weigh them out and dissolve them in the proper order in distilled water. I am surprised you got good results from old, black D-19!
Geoff
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Hi Tina, I use new improved Kodak Estar 4489. I had to change safety light in my dark room from sodium light to a red filter because this film is apparently sensitive to sodium light (according to the manufacturer insert). Dorota
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Microscopy Today magazine published a salary survey in January 2005, attached.* I would add a couple of percent to reflect salary increases between late 2004, when this data was submitted, and now. We'll be doing another survey in about six months.
Ron Anderson, Editor Microscopy Today
Subscribe at http://www.microscopy-today.com, free in North America. *Attached in response to Karen
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You may use any composite video monitor (9" B&W security monitor), given that H-600 takes composite video- I am not 100% certain about H-600, but most data monitors like that use standard composite video 1V p-p; 75 Ohm. Worth checking out IMHO.
Vitaly Feingold SIA 2773 Heath Line Duluth GA 30096 Ph. 770-232-7785 Fax 770-232-1791 www.sia-cam.com ----- Original Message ----- X-from: {john.brealey-at-imvs.sa.gov.au} To: {vitalylazar-at-att.net} Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:03 PM
Dear Colleagues...
We're trying to process skin tissue samples for TEM. Despite several attempts with different protocols, we couldn't achieve fully satisfactory results.Has anybody experienced skin tissue processing? Are there "tips and tricks" for processing skin tissue? Thank you in advance...
Dr. Nejat Yilmaz
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What kind of skin are you processing? We do mouse skin routinely and successfully for TEM. I usually embed in Spurrs resin and do long infiltration steps.
Lesley
Lesley S. Bechtold Senior Manager, Histopathology & Microscopy Sciences The Jackson Laboratory 600 Main St. Bar Harbor, ME 04609 207-288-6322 -----Original Message----- X-from: nyilmaz-at-mersin.edu.tr [mailto:nyilmaz-at-mersin.edu.tr] Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 3:25 PM To: lesley.bechtold-at-jax.org
Dear Colleagues...
We're trying to process skin tissue samples for TEM. Despite several attempts with different protocols, we couldn't achieve fully satisfactory results.Has anybody experienced skin tissue processing? Are there "tips and tricks" for processing skin tissue? Thank you in advance...
Dr. Nejat Yilmaz
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==============================Original Headers============================== 18, 23 -- From lesley.bechtold-at-jax.org Fri Oct 13 14:36:20 2006 18, 23 -- Received: from carmen.jax.org (carmen.jax.org [192.43.249.16]) 18, 23 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k9DJaKC4026581 18, 23 -- for {microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com} ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:36:20 -0500 18, 23 -- Received: from jcs-mid-prod.jax.org (jcs-mid-prod.jax.org [192.43.249.134]) 18, 23 -- by carmen.jax.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k9DIUA01026242; 18, 23 -- Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:36:14 -0400 (EDT) 18, 23 -- (envelope-from lesley.bechtold-at-jax.org) 18, 23 -- Received: from spikey.jax.org by jcs-mid-prod.jax.org 18, 23 -- with ESMTP id 129656101160768136; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:35:36 -0400 18, 23 -- From: "Lesley Bechtold" {lesley.bechtold-at-jax.org} 18, 23 -- To: "nyilmaz-at-mersin.edu.tr" {nyilmaz-at-mersin.edu.tr} 18, 23 -- CC: "Microscopy Network" {microscopy-at-ns.microscopy.com} 18, 23 -- Subject: RE: [Microscopy] Skin processing 18, 23 -- Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:35:35 -0400 18, 23 -- Message-ID: {20061013153535960.00000006260-at-spikey} 18, 23 -- In-Reply-To: {200610131925.k9DJPOxc023765-at-ns.microscopy.com} 18, 23 -- X-Mailer: Oracle Connector for Outlook 10.1.1.0.5 71011 (11.0.8010) 18, 23 -- X-Accept-Language: en-us, en 18, 23 -- MIME-Version: 1.0 18, 23 -- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 18, 23 -- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 18, 23 -- X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ns.microscopy.com id k9DJaKC4026581 ==============================End of - Headers==============================
Hi Nejat I do not have a protocol for TEM of skin, but Pierre Coulombe is the master. Contact him at coulombe-at-jhmi.edu. He can get you what you need. David
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anybody out there believing /considering, that there are differences between human and animal tissue ??....if not, I could send my protocol for human, diagnostic skin tissue (embedding in epoxid resin...Glycidether100/DMSA/MNA/DMP-30)...the differences for embedding method perhaps are not that big......
best regards, Wolfgang Muss SALZBURG, Austria
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Dear colleagues...
We are using Spurrs resin or Araldit resin and we are working on rat skins.
Thanks again
Dr. Nejat Yilmaz
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Thanks to all who replied and gave advice. I'll forward the info to our electrician. BTW, our CRT screen came on for 10 minutes this morning (Monday - the TEM is still relatively cold).
John Brealey
Quote... "I think we have the same scope of the same vintage. Likewise, over the past 2 yrs the CRT has had problems. Unusually long warm up times are the norm. It was about 10min...now it's up to 30 min before the CRT kicks in. After it warms up however..it has not been a problem at all. What I don't understand is how you operate blindly to set up numbers etc. It seems that if the CRT is not on, we cannot even get a beam. I've tried to run blind with it only a few times...maybe I'll have to do it again one day. I hope not. We are still under the Hitachi service contract, and it seems that every time they come over they try something new. They have swapped out the CRT and some electrical component boards. Nothing has worked thus far. I'll be interested in any real solutions that you can share as to using a stand alone monitor. Good luck. Linda"
Linda, we have the opposite problem to you - our CRT comes on when cold then disappears after about 10 minutes. I suspect we have a faulty wire somewhere or a fine crack on a circuit board that expands as it heats up. Despite the lack of illumination on the CRT screen, all functions performed through the CRT keypad are working. Your problem sounds different - maybe a power supply problem.
Quote... "You may use any composite video monitor (9" B&W security monitor), given that H-600 takes composite video- I am not 100% certain about H-600, but most data monitors like that use standard composite video 1V p-p; 75 Ohm. Worth checking out IMHO. Vitaly Feingold"
Thanks for the info Vitaly.
Quote... "Try to replace all the capacitors in the circuit board. It is possible the high voltage is not working for the crt."
Thanks Ray.
Quote... "It sounds like a heat related issue. I had to remember an old trick for a problem we recently had. I turned a duster can upside down and sprayed liquid around at some suspect components. When I sprayed the bad one, the unit snapped back to life momentarily. I could then replace the bad component on the first attempt. I would be careful around a CRT and wouldn't be chilling the glass lest something break, but I suspect something in the driver electronics has gone bad. My next recourse would be to look for a replacement CRT from an old scope. I've had to do that with two different EDS units. Warren"
Thanks Warren.
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] TEM and SEM fixation
Question: I have to treat human stomach biopsies that had been frozen in liquid nitrogen and kept at -85ƒC without any protectant device. I have to fix and embedd some of them for TEM and some for SEM. What should I do? I never had samples like these? I have a traditional ultramicrotome and no cryo devices. Please help thank you annamaria
Annamaria, If these were simply plunged into liquid nitrogen to freeze them, the ultrastructure will be virtually destroyed by ice crystal growth. You might check how they were frozen before you proceed to see if it's worth it. That said you can freeze-substitute them then bring them to room temperature and embed as normal without cryodevices. Get a small Styrofoam cooler (the kind chemicals are shipped in) and some dry ice and you are in business.
A good substitution medium is 1% Osmium tetroxide in dry acetone (dissolve from the crystals). Add about 1 ml of substitution medium to 2 ml cryovials, cap the vials and freeze them upright in liquid nitrogen. Transfer your samples to the top of the frozen substitution medium in a liquid nitrogen bath and loosely cap the vials, making sure there is no liquid nitrogen inside. For the substitution chamber, line a small Styrofoam cooler with some foil then put 2 beakers in, one inside the other. Add acetone to each beaker to about 1/3 full then chill everything by surrounding the beakers with dry ice. Put a few chunks in the acetone, too. Once it's all cooled add your samples with substitution medium then top up the cooler with dry ice and put the lid on. Usually a small cooler holds about 5 pounds of dry ice which will last 2 to 5 days depending on the outside temperature, but this should be enough to complete the substitution. Once the samples warm up to room temperature they are already fixed, dehydrated and ready to embed in the resin of your choice (or to CPD and put in the SEM). Don't forget to rinse a few times in pure acetone to remove the excess Osmium.
Let me know if you need more information. Kim
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I am sure this is an easy one - I need to trace DNA (or RNA) molecules on a digital micrograph to measure their length. Any particular program recommended? NIH Image should do it? Or something maybe better (preferentially free/cheap)?
Thanks,
Michal
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I am posting this question for a friend who is working on yeast using the following (very odd) protocol:
"These yeast are chemically fixed in PB containing 3% paraformaldehyde and 0.5% gluteraldehyde 2 h room temp. Washed twice in PB, placed in 1% sodium meta periodate, rinsed PB, quenched for 30 min in 50 mM NH4Cl in PB, rinsed PB, dehydrated in ETOH 30%, 70%, 95%, and 3x 100%, microwaved 40s, 250W. Allowed to drain dry between each 100% ETOH. Placed in LR White and microwaved 3 min, 250W, placed 4 C overnight, with two more LR White changes, then placed in LE white in embedding capsules at 60 C overnight."
Go to http://www.emc.missouri.edu/lookatthis.htm to see these yeasty beasties.
She is looking for opinions on why the cell membranes are bumpy (I said drying out between 100% ETOH changes), why the vacuoles look so strange, and why the mottled appearance in the background (water in the formvar, she asks?). When reading the above protocol again, note that these samples are NOT destined for immunolabeling.
I can't wait to see the replies to this one!
Rainy day in Columbia. How's Hawaii, Tina?
Randy
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1. I would recommend she use glutaraldehyde instead of gluteraldehyde :) 2. Why is she doing periodate? try skipping this step to see if it impacts the morphology. 3. Why NH4Cl if she isn't going to do immuno? 4. It is hard for me to judge a microwave dehydration protocol but try a conventional non-microwave approach. I would be worried about shrinkage. I agree the drying out step is highly suspect. 5. Why no osmium? 6. Why not use your fancy cryofixation device? - Studer has published gorgeous pictures of cryo-fixed yeast. 7. If no immuno, why not a better resin (epon-substitute or epon-araldite)? 8. Tina probably would need a battery operated computer to get your message!
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My weather comment to Tina was made while having a total blankout on the recent earthquake in Hawaii. It was definitely not meant as a bad joke at the expense of the people who went though it! My apologies if it came across like that. My bad all the way.
Randy
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Dear Listers, I would appreciate an advice on processing Drosophila mutant brain for TEM. I cannot use OsO4 or DMSO, and not sure which cryofixation and cryosubstitution approach would work the best. Thank you, Albina
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1. The protocol is odd, if used for ultrastructure purpose. It is NOT odd at all if it is used for immunolabeling.
2. The "bumpy" cell membranes (looks to me the cell walls) may actually have something to do with the cell culture, rather than EM prep - some cells (the ones with bumpy cell walls) are mostly likely dying. It also explains, in part, the 'strangeness' of the vacuoles.
3. The mottled appearance in the background, if is from the formvar, could be easily checked out by examining the formvar on the grid (no sections).
4. The following is simple method for yeast TEM ultrastructure (especially if you want to avoid osmium). It works really well -
1). Harvested yeast cells are fixed first with 2.5% (v/v) glutaraldehyde in PBS for 40 min at room temperature. 2). Rinse with PBS 3X 3). Cells are further fixed with 2% potassium permanganate in water for 1 h at room temperature. 4). Rinse with water 5). Dehydration as usual 6). Use resin other than LRW for embedding
You can check some images at http://www.uwyo.edu/Microscopy/yatlas/default.htm
Zhaojie Zhang Director, Microscopy Core Facility University of Wyoming Laramie, WY 82072 http://www.uwyo.edu/microscopy
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Dear Listers,
I am posting this question for a friend who is working on yeast using the following (very odd) protocol:
"These yeast are chemically fixed in PB containing 3% paraformaldehyde and 0.5% gluteraldehyde 2 h room temp. Washed twice in PB, placed in 1% sodium meta periodate, rinsed PB, quenched for 30 min in 50 mM NH4Cl in PB, rinsed PB, dehydrated in ETOH 30%, 70%, 95%, and 3x 100%, microwaved 40s, 250W. Allowed to drain dry between each 100% ETOH. Placed in LR White and microwaved 3 min, 250W, placed 4 C overnight, with two more LR White changes, then placed in LE white in embedding capsules at 60 C overnight."
Go to http://www.emc.missouri.edu/lookatthis.htm to see these yeasty beasties.
She is looking for opinions on why the cell membranes are bumpy (I said drying out between 100% ETOH changes), why the vacuoles look so strange, and why the mottled appearance in the background (water in the formvar, she asks?). When reading the above protocol again, note that these samples are NOT destined for immunolabeling.
I can't wait to see the replies to this one!
Rainy day in Columbia. How's Hawaii, Tina?
Randy
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] TEM-Propylene Oxide v. Acetone
Question: Hi, What are the opions on using propylene oxide v. acetone mixed with resin in the final steps of resin infiltration of TEM processing? We use P.O. and have for years. The question came up as I am processing a piece of rubber tubing and am concerned the P.O. may eat away at it?
Used to be a service engineer for Hitachi now full time at U of Kentucky. I also refurbish electron microscopes for resale. I always loved the 600. I have been accumulating 600s for parts and probably have a crt around. I know I have the CRT I/O circuit board.
Couple thoughts on this if you are interested. Not certain on your problem but I suspect something with the CRT circuit unit board housed with the CRT itself. May be something with the CRT I/O board that is with all the other boards in the rack, lower left.
If you have access to a competent electronics guy especially with an oscilloscope you might try some things. On the CRT I/O board there are a couple test points; HD (horizontal drive) and VD (vertical drive). You can look at these. The schematics should tell you the frequencies. I doubt these are the problem however. Best place to look next is where the plug is to the board behind the CRT. Pain to remove the covers to get there. Take the grey large cover off, then the copper colored shroud off over the CRT. Need a long plus screwdriver for this. At the plug you will have HD pin 6, VD pin 9, Video pin 8, and +15 VDC pin 7. Pin 10 is ground. That suggestion of spraying duster upside down is a good idea once the trouble occurs. I would try and look at these when working fine and then again when it quits. I guess you have ten minutes. If you lose the +15 that will definitely cause this. If all these look OK you may be losing the +10KV to the CRT tube? Be careful around the plug and wire as it will wake you up. I would make sure the display power is off when messing with this plug. Even then the CRT will hold a charge. Once unplugged make sure and ground the tube. Usually a lot of carbon build up around the plug. Possible it is finding a way to ground. I would clean this area and the rubber cover. If your electronics guy has a high voltage probe and knows how not to get killed or short things out you should get ~8 to 10KV there when powered up. Don't think it will be right at 10KV if I remember right. Sometimes the wire to this pug and CRT may break down.
One clue to eliminate HD and/or VD is while running, visually inspect the plug end of the tube. Dark room you should some illumination on the grids in the glass.
Good luck. If I can help let me know.
Joel McClintock"
Thanks Joel, great info here. I'll forward this to our electrician - he's very good with oscilloscopes and stuff.
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If you cant find a solution I would talk to these guys. SMH ELECTRONICS CO 508-291-7447 I had a monitor on an old Kevex unit that had a rolling line in it. They fixed it for a flat fee and it has been fine ever since. They specialize in component level repair of ancient electronics. They keep all the stuff from the 60's going for the FAA. They can probably diagnose and fix whatever you have.
Tom Kaye"
Thanks Tom.
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On 16 Oct 2006 at 19:00, bozhilov-at-ucr.edu wrote:
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My guess, for the little that it may be worth, is that if the regular SEM used a diffusion pump, the PMT photocathode and the dynodes would soon become too oily to emit photoelectrons.
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A channel PMT might work in your situation. It eliminates the dynodes and voltage dropping resistors.
What type of application would you have in mind?
gary g.
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I’m passing this on to the microscopy list with some comments.
I forgot to mention that we have a CM120 TWIN, which has a Cs of 2.2 mm, whereas your Biotwin has a Cs around 6 mm. That might explain the difference since Cs is one of the parameters that influence the envelope of the CTF.
On the other hand I don’t think an information limit of 20 Å is good enough even for a biotwin. My suggestion is to make the convergence angle as small as possible (sacrificing illumination intensity) by spreading the beam over a large specimen area. Maybe you have to use a larger spot to compensate for the loss of intensity.
I checked changing only Cs (between 2 and 6 mm) in CTF-explorer (http://clik.to/ctfexplorer) and it didn’t seem to affect the envelope very much, whereas the convergence angle certainly does.
I wonder if we’ll get any comments on this from the rest of the list.
Philip
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Hi Rob,
We have switched almost entirely to acetone for our dehydrating and infiltration steps. It works just fine with our variious permutations of Epon (EMBed), Spuur's, and Araldite and allows us to completely avoid the carcinogenic and hard-to-handle PO steps. We also use it occasionally as a transition between ethanol and resin in the rare cases when we want most of the dehydration done in the somewhat less-extractive ethanol. We use microwave processing for the vast majority of our samples, but it also works with longer procedures.
We have no experience with embedding rubber tubing, however.
Randy
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] TEM-Propylene Oxide v. Acetone
Question: Hi, What are the opions on using propylene oxide v. acetone mixed with resin in the final steps of resin infiltration of TEM processing? We use P.O. and have for years. The question came up as I am processing a piece of rubber tubing and am concerned the P.O. may eat away at it?
Since you are asking it sounds like you have a problem. Having worked with a 100CX and 100S (23 yrs old and still going strong), the answer would have to be well in excess of 3000 plates for either one.
Two things seem to cause plate jams (in JEOL's): (1) plates loaded backwards in the film supply box (i.e. the notch on the wrong side, the boxes have just enough play in them that the weight of ~ 10 plate is enough to force a backwards plate at the bottom into the box. (2) bent plates.
Good luck.
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For a long time at CMU we tried to get a Digital System for our TEM. But out limitation was the lack of a 35mm port on the CM10. I didn't see that as a starting point for analysis.
#1 do you have a 35mm port? If so that's great. If not, open the wallet. As Mike mentioned the bottom mount camera systems typically are much more money.
(before more points another perspective)
Here in our facility we have a digital camera on our Philips 410. It has a 1k x 1k AMT (and no I have no financial interest in any vendors microscope or camera). The contrast and sensitivity means fast screening of images with intensities too low to visualize on the old 'analog' screen. The down side for us is the pixel size. Fewer pixels can mean increased sensitivity and decreased exposure times (faster live rates), but it means you are limited to on screen magnification. That has been the biggest challenge for me switching from film.
Film is great - take the image, and you have plenty of magnification overhead (enlarging). With the 1024x1024 camera, the image that you collect needs to be at the ultimate magnification. The sensitivity of the camera is such that the lower intensities work fine, but, goes counter the old adage of: take the image at the lowest magnification possible with the beam as far from cross over as possible.
With free software like autostich (google it) doing a montage is quite simple and direct (if you work with 8 bit files), but not quite the same as having a 2k or 4k array to work with. Even an automated montage system (assuming you have an automated stage that the camera software can integrate with) can overcome the limitations of few pixels, but potentially can add cost or exposure time, an still is not (in my limited opinion) quite as good as having the image collected on one array (film or CCD).
Last few thoughts to think about...
#2 How do you deal with the negatives: Routinely enlarge?
#3 Final print size (is a 1k x 1k image enough pixels)
#4 Speed and exposure times (goes to what Gary mentioned)
Good luck, and I hope that all makes sense (and I hope I'm not drastically repeating what others have already mentioned).
Geoff Williams Leduc Bioimaging Facility Manager Brown University
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Dear TEM users, We are a pathology/hospital based TEM facility equipped with a Jeol 1010 electron microscope. We would like to change to a digital camera system, since we find that wet-film technology is slow and expensive. I am hoping that there are users out there that can provide me with opinions about digital camera systems to help educate me about what they like, and what they think is important in a TEM digital camera and its associated computer [hardware/software] system.
I have never used a TEM digital camera, so I have no experience as such with any digital camera system, other than consumer digital cameras, so it's hard for me to judge the merits of a digital camera without "getting my feet wet" so to speak, and trying it out.
I'm open to suggestions, thoughts, and opinions of experienced users or any comments on this topic.
Garry Burgess
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Capabilities and features Purchased in 1987 Excellent condition; maintained by JEOL personnel; no serious outstanding or recurring problems 40 kV to 200 kV LaB6 gun Diffusion and ion pumped column and camera Specimen goniometer with 60 travel STEM capability using Polaroid film or 35-mm image acquisition Cold finger for sample EDS compatible TEM is not RS232 capable Air compressor to run pneumatic valves is not available (runs on house nitrogen in our facility) Gatan digital image acquisition system (see below) Equipment for plate camera (see below) Haskris R100 water-cooled chiller (1 year old; uses R134a coolant) Stand-alone film desiccator (without mechanical pump) JEOL speciality tools, includes hoist for gun assembly Documentation
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1) low energy secondary electrons collection will require an additional electrode at some +300V, same as standard SED has;
2) poor vacuum of specimen chamber will likely poison high resistance layer of the channel electron multiplier. These require much better vacuum.
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Actually you may simply skip this step. You can do the infiltration steps with a mixture of resin and 100% ethanol.
Regards,
Stephane
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] TEM-Propylene Oxide v. Acetone
Question: Hi, What are the opions on using propylene oxide v. acetone mixed with resin in the final steps of resin infiltration of TEM processing? We use P.O. and have for years. The question came up as I am processing a piece of rubber tubing and am concerned the P.O. may eat away at it?
I would be careful about this - I have found that traces of alcohol can adversely affect polymerisation. I do have to use ethanol/resin mix when processing cells that have been cultured on plastic dishes, but always give extra changes in pure resin in a vacuum incubator to ensure removal of trace ethanol.
For info - it is our normal practice to use acetone as a link reagent, having changed from using PO some years ago.
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] About the defect contrast in HAADF image
Question: Dear Microscopists,
I observed a strong defect ( possibly inversion domains) contrast in STEM-HAADF image at edge-on condition in GaN. The contrast also exists along {11-20} zone axis, but it is weaker than edge-on condition. I tried to use EDX to see whether any chemical change across the defect, but didn't find obvious change. Could anybody have similar observations or have any idea of the contrast from? Thanks a lot.
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Email: rfklie-at-uic.edu Name: Robert Klie
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] Postdoctoral Position available
Question: Dear all,
I am currently looking for a postdoctoral research associate in the area of STEM/EELS of oxide materials at the University of Illinois - Chicago. Would you please bring the advertisement (see below) to the attention of possible candidates?
Thanks!
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POSTDOCTORAL POSITION AVAILABLE STARTING JANUARY 2007 DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICS UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS - CHICAGO, IL, USA
The University of Illinois ñ Chicago (UIC), Department of Physics, is seeking candidates for a postdoctoral position in transmission electron microscopy of strongly correlated oxides and heterogeneous catalysts systems. Applicants should have a Ph.D. degree in Materials Physics or Materials Chemistry, extensive and demonstrated experience in Z-contrast imaging in combination with electron energy-loss spectroscopy (EELS), and a strong background and interest in materials problem solving. Familiarity with aberration correction and analysis of structural defects and interfaces using electron-microscopy imaging is an advantage.
Facilities at UIC include a JEOL 2010F STEM/TEM, an aberration-corrected VG HB601UX, both with HAADF detectors and EELS spectrometers, a JEOL3010, as well as state-of-the-art sample preparation (for more details see http://www.rrc.uic.edu/).
The position is available starting January, 2007 for a period one year with a possible extension for a second year. The salary is commensurate with experience. Interested candidates should send a curriculum vitae, publication list, and the names of at least three references with their contact addresses to: Professor Robert F. Klie at rfklie-at-uic.edu
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Today, I shot some images of histological sections in a conventional light microscope (Leica Orthoplan 2) using several different digital camera systems (Pixera, Qimaging). None of the images were uniformly in focus (i.e., they were not flat field) even though the microscope image itself was.
Is this a common problem with digital camera optical couplers? If anyone has a system that would work with this microscope setup, I would like to hear about it.
Frustrated in Carbondale,
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The sharpness of EBSD patterns decreases as the SEM kV is reduced.
Does anybody know why?
The only explanation I can come up with is stray fields. The lower kV electrons are going to be more affected by stray fields.
Regards, -- Larry Stoter
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Dear Larry, I would suspect that either you are getting more contribution from the amorphous surface oxide layer as the beam penetrates less at lower kV, or that you are getting more contribution from the thin, deformed layer left over from polishing. The EBSP electrons come from very shallow in the specimen, because the ones from deeper in the sample don't come out with enough energy to contribute to the pattern, so the pattern is very sensitive to the condition of the surface and top micron of the sample. IMHO. Regards,
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The sharpness of EBSD patterns decreases as the SEM kV is reduced.
Does anybody know why?
The only explanation I can come up with is stray fields. The lower kV electrons are going to be more affected by stray fields.
Regards, -- Larry Stoter
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Need some info on the fluid used in the water chilled lens cooling loop of a Jeol 733.
System developed a leak and dumped what at first looked like pump oil on the floor of the lab. After some clean up the fluid evaporated over the next few days which led me to think it was some kind of water based liquid.
Any 733 owners with info please contact me directly.
Thanks
Roy Beavers
Southern Methodist University Department of Geological Sciences P.O. Box 750395 Dallas, TX 75275 Voice: 214-768-2756 Fax: 214-768-2701 Email: rbeavers-at-smu.edu
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Roy, I've not done a whole lot of work on the JXA-733, but the objective lens is definitely OIL cooled. Don't go putting water in there! I'm just not sure what kind of oil. Maybe someone out there can help out with this.
Ken Converse owner
QUALITY IMAGES Servicing Scanning Electron Microscopes Since 1981 474 So. Bridgton Rd. Bridgton, ME 04009 207-647-4348 Fax 207-647-2688 kenconverse-at-qualityimages.biz qualityimages.biz
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Group,
Need some info on the fluid used in the water chilled lens cooling loop of a Jeol 733.
System developed a leak and dumped what at first looked like pump oil on the floor of the lab. After some clean up the fluid evaporated over the next few days which led me to think it was some kind of water based liquid.
Any 733 owners with info please contact me directly.
Thanks
Roy Beavers
Southern Methodist University Department of Geological Sciences P.O. Box 750395 Dallas, TX 75275 Voice: 214-768-2756 Fax: 214-768-2701 Email: rbeavers-at-smu.edu
==============================Original Headers============================== 9, 23 -- From rbeavers-at-mail.smu.edu Wed Oct 18 16:41:20 2006 9, 23 -- Received: from s31xub.systems.smu.edu (s31xub.systems.smu.edu [129.119.70.73]) 9, 23 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k9ILfJGL004997 9, 23 -- for {Microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:41:19 -0500 9, 23 -- Received: from s31xe7.systems.smu.edu ([129.119.70.140]) by s31xub.systems.smu.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); 9, 23 -- Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:41:19 -0500 9, 23 -- X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 9, 23 -- Content-class: urn:content-classes:message 9, 23 -- MIME-Version: 1.0 9, 23 -- Content-Type: text/plain; 9, 23 -- charset="us-ascii" 9, 23 -- Subject: Jeol 733 Microprobe 9, 23 -- Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:41:19 -0500 9, 23 -- Message-ID: {F8AF6BF6CD1CC040AF35B0C2D1680BBB235E4A-at-s31xe7.systems.smu.edu} 9, 23 -- X-MS-Has-Attach: 9, 23 -- X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 9, 23 -- Thread-Topic: Jeol 733 Microprobe 9, 23 -- Thread-Index: Acby/iWDxPLNpHquTV69e0YFSFCLwA== 9, 23 -- From: "Beavers, Roy" {rbeavers-at-mail.smu.edu} 9, 23 -- To: "Microscopy Listserver" {Microscopy-at-microscopy.com} 9, 23 -- X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2006 21:41:19.0350 (UTC) FILETIME=[25A01160:01C6F2FE] 9, 23 -- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 9, 23 -- X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ns.microscopy.com id k9ILfJGL004997 ==============================End of - Headers==============================
==============================Original Headers============================== 22, 24 -- From kenconverse-at-qualityimages.biz Wed Oct 18 18:33:22 2006 22, 24 -- Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) 22, 24 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k9INXMNY017190 22, 24 -- for {Microscopy-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com} ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:33:22 -0500 22, 24 -- Received: from Ken ([24.53.5.33]) by mta10.adelphia.net 22, 24 -- (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP 22, 24 -- id {20061018233318.LZLK14484.mta10.adelphia.net-at-Ken} ; 22, 24 -- Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:33:18 -0400 22, 24 -- From: "Ken Converse" {kenconverse-at-qualityimages.biz} 22, 24 -- To: {rbeavers-at-mail.smu.edu} , "MSA Listserver" {Microscopy-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com} 22, 24 -- Subject: RE: [Microscopy] Jeol 733 Microprobe 22, 24 -- Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:33:14 -0400 22, 24 -- Message-ID: {002501c6f30d$c88ebd40$6401a8c0-at-Ken} 22, 24 -- MIME-Version: 1.0 22, 24 -- Content-Type: text/plain; 22, 24 -- charset="us-ascii" 22, 24 -- X-Priority: 3 (Normal) 22, 24 -- X-MSMail-Priority: Normal 22, 24 -- X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 22, 24 -- X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 22, 24 -- Importance: Normal 22, 24 -- In-Reply-To: {200610182144.k9ILiHfh009872-at-ns.microscopy.com} 22, 24 -- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 22, 24 -- X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ns.microscopy.com id k9INXMNY017190 ==============================End of - Headers==============================
We are using two different couplers made by OPTEM that were designed for the specific digital camera. The couplers (containing lenses) were not inexpensive. For ports, this is the standard trinocular (camera) port on top of the oculars. Previously, it was used with 35 mm cameras and worked beautifully with film....... sigh.....
JB
} I've coupled my digital cameras to several optical microscopes in my } lab without the problem you have expressed. It sounds to me like } whatever port you are using to couple the digital camera to the } microscope has a problem. May I ask how you made the coupling? What } port are you using? What magnification are you working at? } } I actually have a coupler I use in the field when going to outside } labs that I can use to couple my digital camera to their microscopes } if the need arises. I've only had the kind of problem you are } describing when faced with a port that has some kind of problem ... } I will say at high mags, like 1000X and higher, I have run into } problems, but I have felt it is due to the pixel resolution of my } camera.... } } dj } } On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, bozzola-at-siu.edu wrote: } } } } } } } } } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } The Microscopy ListServer -- CoSponsor: The Microscopy Society of America
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Just an update on our faulty Hitachi H-600 CRT. Our electrician, Tony Morgan, has fixed the problem. We didn't have 15V entering the CRT unit. He traced the fault back to circuit board PC-1 in the power box. The volatage regultor for fuse F6 had a "dry joint". He removed PC-1 and resoldered the pins on the voltage regulator and the fuse clips. He also replaced the fuse.
This would explain why the CRT only lasted 10 minutes each morning - as the power box heated, the slightest amount of expansion in the "dry joint" was causing the loss of continuity in the circuit.
Thanks to everyone who provided advice on this issue.
John Brealey Queen Elizabeth Hospital EM Unit Adelaide South Australia
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Isabell and Dravid have considered the problem in a paper on "Resolution and sensitivity of electron backscattered diffraction in a cold field emission gun SEM" in Ultramicroscopy 67 (1997) 59-68.
Concerning the stray fields that you mention as a possible explanation they write: "Some high-resolution SEMs have a strong objective lens field which "spills" onto the specimen. This results in bending of Kikuchi lines due to the excessive magnetic field of the objective lens. This problem, however, can be easily solved by placing a small aperture of permalloy above the specimen, thus trapping the magnetic flux from the lens."
More generally, they conclude that you get a lousy signal-to-noise ratio at low voltages because low energy backscattered electrons are much less efficient in exciting the phosphor than high energy BSEs. Hence the pattern quality is degraded at low voltages.
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The sharpness of EBSD patterns decreases as the SEM kV is reduced.
Does anybody know why?
The only explanation I can come up with is stray fields. The lower kV electrons are going to be more affected by stray fields.
Regards, -- Larry Stoter
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Hi, I'm not sure what JEOL uses on the JXA 733, but on the JXA 8600 they use an oil in that cooling circuit. Is this in part due to the fact that on the 8600 the voltage lines to the lens run inside the cooling lines? Was the 733 designed the same way? If it is the same, JEOL has the oil as:
Catalog Number Description Unit Price 423003 Lens cooling oil (per gallon) $13.96
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Thanks for all the comments. The question was a general one, not related to a specific experiment/instrument, although it does seem to be a widespread observation.
A few more thoughts:
1. The reduction of interation volume at lower kVs leading to a larger proportion of the signal coming from a less than perfect surface (or contaminating surface) seems the most likely explanation. Would electrochemical polishing or glancing-incidence argon ion milling provide a better finish than colloidal silica?
2. I don't think it is related to energy spread in the electron beam - there doesn't seem to be a difference between pattern sharpness on cold FEGs compared with schottkey FEGs or W instruments.
3. While there might be distortion problems with SEMs which don't have fully contained fields, the loss of sharpness at lower kVs still occurs even on SEMs with fully contained fields and at longer working distances.
4. While I agree that the S/N ratio does deteriorate at the lowest kVs, the loss of sharpness is still apparent at kVs where this shouldn't be an issue. For example, the pattern sharpness does deteriorate in going from 30 kV to 10 kV.
5. A customer in the UK has a system where field cancellation is required for image resolution. He's going to check the patterns with and without field cancellation to see the effect - this should clarify whether stray fields have a significant effect on EBSP sharpness - I'll let the list know of the result.
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You need to define "sharpness." What I think you are seeing is reduction of S/N ratio. The Kikuchi patterns are generated by a point source. Thus, moving the phosphor screen of the camera towards or away from the specimen will change the width of the patterns. Likewise, changing WD will also have a similar effect. Higher KV will provide deeper penetration of the specimen (~50nm) and will produce good S/N. So it seems that what you are talking about is contrast or definition of lines. It is not "sharpness."
Ideally, the PC should be about 1/3 down from the top of the scintillator disc. If you are off, that will degrade the pattern quality. Also be sure to set your analysis WD for the WD actually used.
gary g.
At 01:47 PM 10/18/2006, you wrote:
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Helen, No-one seems to have picked up your query, so I'll have a go (even though I'm not a STEM expert..) First, there's not really enough information in your post to give an answer, it would help a lot if you could find a way to let others see the images (as was done recently for a question on backscattered imaging). Second, I believe that the contrast in HAADF-STEM is dominated by differences in atomic number, although strain contrast can be seen as well. There are differences depending upon detector geometry, I have heard that many HAADF detectors are not really 'high angle' (where you detect incoherent scattering and the image is dominated by atomic number); collecting electrons scattered at lower angles gives a stronger signal but at the expense of some coherent scattering effects appearing in your image too (e.g. strain contrast, stacking fault fringes etc.). So your idea of looking for a compositional difference at the boundary is a good one. However, the signal-to-noise ratio for EDX is several orders of magnitude worse for EDX than for HAADF, so there are lots of things you can see in HAADF which you can't distinguish in EDX maps. EELS has a much better S-N ratio and is worth a try. Alternatively you can look at the same defect in HREM. Third, why should a defect which is visible edge-on away from a zone axis (you don't say which crystallographic plane) become less visible when viewed along a zone axis (presumably still seen edge-on?)? The short answer is I don't know, I guess you are picking up coherent scattering effects. It does seem that people generally ignore dynamical electron diffraction in HAADF images (it makes interpretation so much easier), but I have a feeling that you can't get away from those Bloch waves so easily..
Hope this helps
Richard.
P.S. For anyone who isn't a materials TEM person and wants to know, the acronyms are: TEM: transmission electron microscopy STEM: scanning transmission electron microscopy HAADF: High angle annular dark field EDX: Energy dispersive X-ray spectroscopy EELS: Electron energy loss spectroscopy TLA: three letter acronym
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Email: hx213-at-cam.ac.uk Name: Huixin Xiu
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] About the defect contrast in HAADF image
Question: Dear Microscopists,
I observed a strong defect ( possibly inversion domains) contrast in STEM-HAADF image at edge-on condition in GaN. The contrast also exists along {11-20} zone axis, but it is weaker than edge-on condition. I tried to use EDX to see whether any chemical change across the defect, but didn't find obvious change. Could anybody have similar observations or have any idea of the contrast from? Thanks a lot.
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If anyone uses this software and wishes to aid in some trouble shooting, i'd greatly appreciate it.
I'm not as familiar with the software as i would like to be, and i'm pretty sure my problems are software based. Atleast i'm hoping and praying its not the detector!
I can get in to more detail upon request, but for now... Our EDS hasn't been used in over a month and i've never been the primary operator. Upon getting it back up and running, i try to aquire a spectra. It goes straight to 100% deadtime and 0 counts then stops attempting to continue. I had it set for a 180 second run, but yet the finish time stays at 180, and where it says the elapsed time, there is some really big number.
I don't think its the detector, because it's always been well kept and full of LN.
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] Kevex DeltaPlus EDX system -FREE to collect
Question: I was about to put a Kevex DeltaPlus (Fisons Instruments) EDX system in the skip but then thought it may be useful to someone. The serial no of the system is 5500067-0135 (made in USA). There is a computer with 3.5 and 5 inch floppy drives (model PE202F-2; serial no 38151); a keyboard; Okidata Microline-320 9 pin printer and a Fisons Instruments schematics + wiring diagrams manual.Please note there is NO EDX detector. The above items are free to collect but you must arrange shipping with an appropriate courier. First come first served. I am in Nottingham in the UK. By the way, it was never actually used by anyone at this University as it came from elsewhere along with other equipment, but as far as I know it was in a working order when last used. Could be useful for spares for anyone with the same system. Martin Roe
1. turn off the chamberscope if on. fix the problem? if not 2. check the time constant (Acquire--} Setup Pulse processing --} if high (100, 50), set to low (e.g. 3) microsec. fix the problem? if not 3. turn down the beam current ("spot size").
call me that none of that works. 608 265-4798
john
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HI, I wonder any body here has experience on using the two materials Hexamethyldisilizane (HMDS) and tetramethylsilane (TMS) as alternatives to the conventional CO2 CPD? Jun He SEM lab UNMC, Omaha, NE
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I'm using WINEDS software version 4.0 every day more than 8 years without any problems. We using this system with two EDX detector Edax Si(Li) Be window and now with Gresham Sirius SUTW window. One question, was detector over this time filled with the LN2.
Henrik
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} You need to define "sharpness." What I think you are } seeing is reduction of S/N ratio. The Kikuchi patterns } are generated by a point source. Thus, moving the phosphor } screen of the camera towards or away from the specimen will } change the width of the patterns. Likewise, changing WD } will also have a similar effect. Higher KV will provide } deeper penetration of the specimen (~50nm) and will produce } good S/N. So it seems that what you are talking about is } contrast or definition of lines. It is not "sharpness." } } Ideally, the PC should be about 1/3 down from the top of } the scintillator disc. If you are off, that will degrade } the pattern quality. Also be sure to set your analysis } WD for the WD actually used. } } gary g.
I agree that there is a need to separate 'sharpness' from 'contrast'. And 'contrast' does relate to S/N and probe current.
However, there does still seem to be a loss of sharpness at lower kV, as opposed to S/N.
I think the likely explanation relates to surface damage and the smaller interaction volume at lower kV.
Clearly, sample preparation is critical for good EBSPs - and this means a sequence of steps. Any individual process will generate its own surface 'damage'. The key is that each step should remove the damage from the preceeding step while generating a significantly thinner damage layer.
It is also necessary to understand the mechanical properties of the materials being prepared. My personal experience is with austenitic stainless steels, where mechanical processing can easily generate dense dislocation tangles (work hardening) several 100 ums deep. Polishing with colloidal silica or ion milling won't remove even half of the damage layer from the initial mechanical preparation - which is why I spent a lot of time with spark cutter systems .... -- Larry Stoter JEOL (UK) Ltd tel: +44-(0)1707-377117, fax: +44-(0)1707-373254, e-mail: larrys-at-jeoleuro.com
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A couple of other things came to mind after my first posting.
A real killer of patterns is oxidation. With EBSD data coming from only about 50nm deep, it does not take much to reach a point of no patterns at all. I baselined Al on Silicon wafers and after polishing (mechanical down to .02u colloidal silica) the patterns slowly diminished over three days after exposure to air. Then, in about an additional four days, no patterns.
No doubt at all that specimen prep is critical to good patterns and even getting patterns at all. And indeed, different types of specimens require different prep methods. This is learned the hard way.
Another factor is the binning value of the CCD. This works against lower KV in that the patterns can be very sharp without binning but the fps are very low. Like 3-5fps is not uncommon, but the images are great. This is mostly useful for collecting a single nice looking pattern for publication or reporting.
Also, at lower KV you will need to increase camera gain (contrast). This tends to make the final pattern un-even from top to bottom. Doing an initial good adjustment of gain and brightness level along with background subtraction helps a lot in this respect. In some cases, adjusting WD will even out the overall video signal.
Another issue is whether the camera/phosphor is tilted or horizontal. Phosphor should be tilted up, camera down. This way, the incidence angle of the pattern for each point collected is symmetrical. I'm sure that the EBSD gurus can explain it better than I can.
If you can put a link to a pix of what you are working with or one that shows your concern, that would help.
gary g.
At 12:50 PM 10/20/2006, you wrote:
} I agree that there is a need to separate 'sharpness' from 'contrast'. } And 'contrast' does relate to S/N and probe current. } } However, there does still seem to be a loss of sharpness at lower kV, } as opposed to S/N. } } I think the likely explanation relates to surface damage and the } smaller interaction volume at lower kV. } } Clearly, sample preparation is critical for good EBSPs - and this } means a sequence of steps. Any individual process will generate its } own surface 'damage'. The key is that each step should remove the } damage from the preceeding step while generating a significantly } thinner damage layer. } } It is also necessary to understand the mechanical properties of the } materials being prepared. My personal experience is with austenitic } stainless steels, where mechanical processing can easily generate } dense dislocation tangles (work hardening) several 100 ums deep. } Polishing with colloidal silica or ion milling won't remove even half } of the damage layer from the initial mechanical preparation - which } is why I spent a lot of time with spark cutter systems .... } -- } Larry Stoter } JEOL (UK) Ltd } tel: +44-(0)1707-377117, fax: +44-(0)1707-373254, e-mail: larrys-at-jeoleuro.com
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Eleven videos from MAS have now been added to the MSA collection. These are numbers 288-298. The videos are from a 1986 Presidential Symposium on the History of Microanalysis. These were converted to DVD thanks to Paul Carpenter (and NASA). The full titles can be found at the MSA web site (http://www.microscopy.org/) Under Reference and Education. If there is an MAS list server, would someone please forward this information to that list. Greg Erdos gwe-at-ufl.edu 352-466-0843 Micanopy Florida
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Question: I am attempting to ultra-microtome polypropylene and high density polyethylene nanocomposites for examination of the clay dispersion with TEM. The samples are plastic pellets. Using a diamond knife I am able to easily prepare thick sections ~ 250 nm, however these are too thick to see the clay dispersions. When I cut in the range of ~ 90 nm it is difficult to get any sections and the sections I am able to obtain are quite wrinkled. Is there a chemical I can use to ëironí the sections? Should I embed the pellets in something instead of just directly sectioning the pellets? If so what? I have found papers that successfully use both room temperature and cryo-microtome; however I must do these at room temp.
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Question: Can a person with liberal arts degrees but no science courses train to become a microscopist? If yes, what kind of institution provides training?
The short answer is "yes, but you're going to have to take some science classes", mostly physics, chemistry, and biology, if you're interesting in biological/biotech microscopy. Off the top of my head, I know of Central Michigan U. (obviously), Madison Area Technical College in Madison, WI, and San Joaquin Delta College in Stockton, CA. Other universities will have courses in various microscopies, but not so many have majors in microscopy like these 3.
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Dear All, I have been having serious problems embedding cells grown on collagen gels. I have tried increasing my dehydration (EtOH) & infiltration steps. I have tried different resins (Spurr's and LX112). I still end up with gumdrops. These are not thin coatings of collagen as you would use to get finicky cells to grow on coverslips or dishes. These are actually cushions of collagen cast within the confines of cloning rings and probably about 30-50 micrometers thick when fully hydrated. Why should these be so much more problematic than tissue? The PI has also given me the same cells grown on fibronectin, and those are fine. Unfortunately, the cells behave a little differently on FN, and the structures the lab is studying aren't as abundant. HELP. thanks, Lee -- Leona Cohen-Gould, M.S. Sr. Staff Associate Director, Electron Microscopy & Histology Core Facility Manager, Optical Microscopy Core Facility Joan & Sanford I. Weill Medical College of Cornell University voice (212)746-6146 fax (212)746-8175 http://www.cornellcelldevbiology.org http://www.cornellbiochem.org
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There are (at least) 2 technical colleges which offer 2 year programs in electron microscopy (presumably that is what you refer to, not optical microscopy), Madison Area Technical College (here in Madison, WI), matcmadison.edu/electronmicros/ the other is San Joaquin Delta College in California www.deltacollege.edu/dept/electmicro/whatis.html I do not believe they require any science background per se.
John
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Hi Kathryn, With respect to my fellow microscopist, I have to disagree. It would be like trying to become a race car driver without knowing how to drive.
No, you can not train to be a microscopist without a science background. A background in science is fundamental to any specific scientific field. You must acquire an understanding of how science should be conducted, how to learn outside your chosen field and then how to apply your knowledge to solve or accomplish a task. some of these skills you may have, others need to be developed. That were the science background is needed.
This is not to say you can not learn science while you learn microscopy. It's just a longer road.
Best wishes and good luck with your studies.
Frank Karl
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Question: Can a person with liberal arts degrees but no science courses train to become a microscopist? If yes, what kind of institution provides training?
I have had some success with Collagen gel in the TEM.
Tips: Small size, and dehydrate. Days and Days... lots of changes... collagen likes water, and that's where we've had the problem both in the CPD and with the Spurr's.
We found tt was impossible to dehydrate the collagen while it was attached to a coverslip, it held onto the water very strongly.
I don't know if this helps, but other than doing many many 100% ethanol changes prior to infiltration with the resin the samples weren't treated any differently and we had decent results.
HTH
Geoff Williams Leduc Bioimaging Facility Manager Brown University
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Dear All, I have been having serious problems embedding cells grown on collagen gels. I have tried increasing my dehydration (EtOH) & infiltration steps. I have tried different resins (Spurr's and LX112). I still end up with gumdrops. These are not thin coatings of collagen as you would use to get finicky cells to grow on coverslips or dishes. These are actually cushions of collagen cast within the confines of cloning rings and probably about 30-50 micrometers thick when fully hydrated. Why should these be so much more problematic than tissue? The PI has also given me the same cells grown on fibronectin, and those are fine. Unfortunately, the cells behave a little differently on FN, and the structures the lab is studying aren't as abundant. HELP. thanks, Lee -- Leona Cohen-Gould, M.S. Sr. Staff Associate Director, Electron Microscopy & Histology Core Facility Manager, Optical Microscopy Core Facility Joan & Sanford I. Weill Medical College of Cornell University voice (212)746-6146 fax (212)746-8175 http://www.cornellcelldevbiology.org http://www.cornellbiochem.org
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If water is the problem, you might try one of the plastics that do not mind some water. David
On Oct 25, 2006, at 10:46 AM, Geoffrey_Williams-at-brown.edu wrote:
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Days and Days... lots of changes... } collagen likes water, and that's where we've had the problem both } in the } CPD and with the Spurr's. } } We found tt was impossible to dehydrate the collagen while it was } attached to a coverslip, it held onto the water very strongly. } } I don't know if this helps, but other than doing many many 100% } ethanol } changes prior to infiltration with the resin the samples weren't } treated } any differently and we had decent results. } } HTH } } Geoff Williams } Leduc Bioimaging Facility Manager } Brown University } } http://www.brown.edu/Facilities/Leduc_Bioimaging_Facility/ } } -----Original Message----- } X-from: lcgould-at-med.cornell.edu [mailto:lcgould-at-med.cornell.edu] } Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:22 AM } To: Williams, Geoffrey } Subject: [Microscopy] Microscopy: cells grown on collage gels } } } } } ---------------------------------------------------------------------- } -- } ---- } The Microscopy ListServer -- CoSponsor: The Microscopy Society of } America } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- } http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver } On-Line Help http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } ---------------------------------------------------------------------- } -- } ---- } } Dear All, } I have been having serious problems embedding cells grown on collagen } gels. 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Some wonderful folks at Harvard are bequeathing the machine to me if I can make it go away. To do so requires complete dissassembly of the column, (and everything else) into countless small boxes for transport in my little pick-up truck. I plan to mark, tape, label, and photograph everything to the best of my ability, but it will need to be in storage until I move to a new lab space, so I'll need every available crutch when it's time to put it back together. All of the other documentation is complete, but a good set of mechanical drawings would be priceless. Neighborly advice is _always_ appreciated.
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Our company has a Phillips EM-400T but continues to investigate the possibility of upgrading that capability. It is also increasing the members of its team to respond to the growing demand upon its expertise, among which is also a joint venture in Asia. We have just produced a gold hydrosol that has resulted in near-perfect dispersion of gold particles close to five Angstroms in size - probably an unprecedented accomplishment.
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Thank you all for your hints, tips and insight. The general consensus is that collagen gels are just mighty sponges that require very rigorous and prolonged dehydrations. Anything that helps accomplish that is good: releasing the gels from the dish, cutting them into smaller pieces, en bloc staining with UA, using multiple changes of PO before the resin, using a resin with more "tolerance" for a little water. The PI was concerned that the integrity of the cell monolayer would be compromised by removing the gels from the dish and/or cutting them into pieces. I think that I've convinced him that slight damage to a monolayer that I can then cut and we can look at is VASTLY preferable to what we have at the moment.
Thank you again. As always, you guys are a font of information. Lee -- Leona Cohen-Gould, M.S. Sr. Staff Associate Director, Electron Microscopy & Histology Core Facility Manager, Optical Microscopy Core Facility Joan & Sanford I. Weill Medical College of Cornell University voice (212)746-6146 fax (212)746-8175 http://www.cornellcelldevbiology.org http://www.cornellbiochem.org
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We have a investigator who would like to image an oil-in-water nanoemulsion. We have tried SEM and also applying it directly to carbon-coated grids, fixing with osmium, and viewing by TEM. The problem is that the nanoemulsion coalesces during processing. What would be the best technique to process and image this type of sample?
Thanks for your suggestions.
Dotty Sorenson
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The best way to do this is cryoEM. Place a sample on e.g. a TEM grid, plunge into slush nitrogen (almost frozen LN2), place on a cryostage, cryo-sputter coat, and into a low-voltage FESEM. The Philips XL30ESEM at the U Mich North Campus EMAL lists a cryostage, so you might want to contact them to see if they can do your sample. CryoTEM might also work, but I've only done cryoSEM. Any method other than cryo can easily distort the emulsion droplets, and give inaccurate results.
Phil P.S. Sorry, we don't have cryoEM capability here at CMU, or I'd invite you up.
} Hello all, } } We have a investigator who would like to image an oil-in-water } nanoemulsion. We have tried SEM and also applying it directly to } carbon-coated grids, fixing with osmium, and viewing by TEM. The } problem is that the nanoemulsion coalesces during processing. What } would be the best technique to process and image this type of sample? } } Thanks for your suggestions. } } Dotty Sorenson } } Dorothy Sorenson } Microscopy and Image-analysis Laboratory } Department of Cell and Developmental Biology } University Of Michigan Medical School } A807 BSRB } 109 Zina Pitcher Place } Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2200 } (734)763-1170 } FAX (734)763-1166 -- Philip Oshel Microscopy Facility Supervisor Biology Department Central Michigan University 024C Brooks Hall Mt. Pleasant, MI 48859 voice: (989) 774-3576 dept. fax: (989) 774-3462
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Hi, When I worked at a rubber company, we looked synthetic latex by treating with osmium and cryomicrotoming. A small plastic capillary tube held the treated sample in the microtome. this was frozen in the cryomicrotome. Thin sections were cut with a diamond knife and floated on icy cold 50/50 DSMO and water. The thin sections were picked up with a "perfect loop" and transfer to a carbon film grid. Of course the latex spheres were stable after hardening, I don't know about your oil.
We were looking for hollow latex spheres,and we found a few. I was never convinced these rings were real and not some cutting artifact which dropped a section of core out of the hardened skin.
Good luck, let me know how it works out.
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I read your request for manuals on the various Emitech Instruments, and have requested manuals for each piece of equipment to be sent directly to you. For your reference, Quorum Technologies within the last year, purchased Emitech, and now handles both Emitech and the Polaron line of EM preparation equipment. Energy Beam Sciences is the master distributor here in the US, with Soquelec Ltd distributing equipment in Canada.(514) 482-6427.
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MSD is currently searching for an Electron Microscopist to provide support to the National Institutes of Health (NIH) scientific staff. This opportunity is a permanent, full-time position with MSD and it is on-site at the NIH's Rocky Mountain Laboratories in Hamilton, Montana. MSD is an employee-owned company of over 600 professionals who support the diverse scientific, technical, and administrative needs of the Federal government.
Major Duties and Responsibilities: * Complete preparation and imaging of biological specimens for conventional, cryo-, and immuno- SEM and TEM. * Perform TEM sample preparation that includes appropriate fixation, embedding, sectioning and staining of animal tissues and cell culture samples. * Perform SEM sample preparation that includes appropriate fixation, dehydration, critical point drying, and sputter coating. * Perform cryo preparative techniques that include use of a high pressure freezer, freeze substitution equipment, cryo-ultramicrotomy, plunge freezing, and use of cryo-transfer devices and microscope stages. * Perform single or multiple immunolabeling that involves both pre- and post embedding techniques with labeling of unfixed or lightly fixed specimens, resin sections, cryo sections (Tokuyasu), and/or immunocytochemistry. * Additional responsibilities include participation in group meetings to discuss projects, sample and image preparation, data collection, and assistance in micrograph interpretation for scientific staff and database archive.
Position Requirements: * B.A./B.S. in Microbiology, Biology, Biochemistry, or related field required. M.S. or Ph.D. is preferred. * Minimum of two years electron microscopy experience. * Experience with both TEM and SEM. * Experience with conventional, cryo-, and immunolabeling techniques. * Microscopy experience should include sample preparation and image collection. * Experience with a variety of tissue types is preferred. * Expertise in pathology, histology, or biomedical ultrastructural analysis is preferred. * History of research publications preferred. * Excellent communication skills and ability to work in a team environment with all levels of co-workers are essential.
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Question: Hello fellow microscopists,
Back in April we had a thread relating to ethical practices in performing and reporting research. I had felt virtually alone in my concerns until I saw all the responses. I am thankful to all who replied, both on- and offlist. So by popular demand I have, with rapidity characteristic of a thundering herd of turtles, finally gotten around to setting up a Yahoo Group called Integrity in Scientific Research:
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I would like to know how to prepare cross section samples of multilayers on stainless steel substrate. I have the basic knowledge on the sample preparation of layers on silicon wafer using M-bond and ion thinning. However, stainless steel will be difficult to cut and grind. My sample is multilayers (such as Al2O3) on stainless steel substrate, and the thickness of multi-layers is around 3 um. Each layer has several 10 to 1 um in thickness. The other side of the multilayers is also stainless steel. The multi-layers are sandwiched by stainless steel. I will have 5 X 5 X 5 mm cubes. I will try to make TEM samples using ion-thining, and later try to use FIB. I would be appreciate if you could provide me any suggestions.
Thank you,
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We need to upgrade our SEM capabilities to field emission. Most of the imaging would involve nanomaterials (spheres, wires, tubes, etc.) as well as biological macromolecules formed on silicon substrates. Most materials are nonconducting and in need of resolution in the 1-3 nm range. Regarding size of specimens: 3-4 mm to 4-5 inches. In addition, we would be adding ED X-ray microanalytic capability.
I would appreciate input/opinions from users of various brands of field emission SEMs in terms of: reliability (downtime), service support, cost of service contracts, software issues (problems).
Thank you.
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Thanks for bringing up the topic. I am newly returned to this listserver so missed the earlier discussion. Since I am reluctant to get yet another ID I will post my thoughts here.
I read the Science News article listed below and agree with the conclusions of the authors of the JAMA study. Cheers, Roseann
From Science News, Vol. 169, No. 18, May 6, 2006, p. 285., There is an article titled: Study finds bias in peer review. Abstract: Researchers have found evidence of bias when scientists review data and the researcher's name and affiliation are available to the reviewers.
The synopsis was of: JAMA. 2006;295:1675-1680. The authors of the study concluded:
Our study provides evidence of reviewer bias in the open review of abstracts, favoring authors from the United States, from English-speaking countries outside the United States, and from prestigious academic institutions and likely favoring authors from US government agencies and not from private industry. Also, blinded review at least partially reduces bias.
Our results suggest that adoption of blinded peer review by scientific research meetings is a reasonable, low-cost intervention with substantial benefit.
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Hi Listers I have a user who is embedding tissue in spurs, cutting sections, etching away the plastic, staining with antibodies/fluorophors and cover-slipping. My question is, are there any recommendations for anti-fades that he should use? Thank you David
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What type of stainless steel are you preparing. If you have a martensitic stainless steel with any substantial hardness, you will have trouble. If you have a austenitic that is annealed, you will have less of a problem. I have a technique for preparing M50 and 440C substrates, but it is rather involved, so let me know. You have to prevent the sample for distorting because of the high internal stresses in the material.
If you don't have the martensitic SS, then there are a number of ways that you can prepare your samples. One would be to make a stack, slice it, core drill the samples, dimple and then ion mill. Another choice would be to use the Tripod Polisher(R) technique followed by ion milling. And a third method would be to use the Technoorg-Linda method for preparing the samples. All of these have been used to prepare samples of coatings on metals.
Disclaimer: South Bay Technology makes and sells much of the equipment that can be used in these techniques and we can help you with any of them and help you select the best one that may be suited for your laboratory. We have a number of technical papers and application notes available on our website for downloading. If you would like to discuss any of these techniques with me, please feel free to email or phone me.
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I would like to know how to prepare cross section samples of multilayers on stainless steel substrate. I have the basic knowledge on the sample preparation of layers on silicon wafer using M-bond and ion thinning. However, stainless steel will be difficult to cut and grind. My sample is multilayers (such as Al2O3) on stainless steel substrate, and the thickness of multi-layers is around 3 um. Each layer has several 10 to 1 um in thickness. The other side of the multilayers is also stainless steel. The multi-layers are sandwiched by stainless steel. I will have 5 X 5 X 5 mm cubes. I will try to make TEM samples using ion-thining, and later try to use FIB. I would be appreciate if you could provide me any suggestions.
Thank you,
Hiromi Konishi, Ph.D. Laboratory Manager The S.W. Bailey X-ray Diffraction Laboratory Room A353 Weeks Hall Voice: (608) 262-9784, (608) 262-0915 Fax: (608) 262-0693 Department of Geology and Geophysics University of Wisconsin-Madison 1215 W Dayton St. Madison WI 53706
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That may be true, but the person sees quite nice, specific, multi- channel staining (controls in place). I was surprised.
That said, any recommendations for an anti-fade?
David
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} David- } It would be amazing if the person saw any specific staining. Spurr's } is almost impenetrable when it comes to putting a big molecule like an } antibody into the polymerized material. } Carol } }
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David, Maybe there is a reason for using Spurrs, but if your user would like an alternative that will certainly make the etching etching, he or she might like to investigate the butyl methyl methacrylate system that I have worked on for years. Its easy and works well. If your user is interested, I can send some references and a protocol. Contact me off-line.
Tobias
} } Hi Listers } I have a user who is embedding tissue in spurs, cutting sections, } etching away the plastic, staining with antibodies/fluorophors and } cover-slipping. My question is, are there any recommendations for } anti-fades that he should use? } Thank you } David }
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Title-Subject: [Filtered] LR White flat embedding
Question: I have some fibroblasts which were grown on glass coverslips and fixed, dehydrated and infiltrated with LR White. I put a piece of aclar film over the top and polymerized the resin, but now I am having a very difficult time getting the LR White to separate from the coverslip so that I can glue it to an empty BEEM capsule. Does anyone know any good tricks? Thanks.
Two thoughts; 1) not helpful now, but have the cells grown on aclar rather than glass in the future 2) try dry-ice on the glass. This often helps remove the glass, sometimes it just shatters the glass leaving the plastic behind. I have had mixed results. David
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When separating glass from resin I use liquid nitrogen. I dip the coverslip about halfway and hold there for just a few seconds. Then I hold the slip and resin combination between my finger and thumb to begin warming. It seems the warming happens at a different rate and causes the layers to separate. You can then slip the glass away from the resin. Sometimes the glass shatters, but you can still slip it off in pieces.
In future, try growing your fibroblasts on Thermanox coverslips. It works very well and the cells grow just fine. Invert the coverslip over a drop of resin on ACLAR and polymerize. The coverslip and ACLAR are removed easily from the resin. Even if the resin sticks slightly to the coverslip the layer is so thin that you can simply use a razor blade to cut and remove the precise area of the cells that you would like to look at. The rest of the cells can be saved for another time.
Good luck, Jo Dee
Jo Dee Fish Research Technologist III Gladstone Institute of Cardiovascular Disease
Mailing address: The J. David Gladstone Institutes 1650 Owens Street San Francisco, CA 94158
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Question: I have some fibroblasts which were grown on glass coverslips and fixed, dehydrated and infiltrated with LR White. I put a piece of aclar film over the top and polymerized the resin, but now I am having a very difficult time getting the LR White to separate from the coverslip so that I can glue it to an empty BEEM capsule. Does anyone know any good tricks? Thanks.
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Don't know why you think stainless steel should be difficult to cut and grind - it's a lot easier than silicon!
Have you considered spark errosion methods? Most (all?) steels can be cut readily by spark errosion. I would suggest that you follow a similar route to the one you are familiar with for preparing cross-sections from layers on Si wafer except:
1. When cutting the cylindrical core, use a similar trepanning tool but in a spark errosion system.
2. Having glued the core in to the Cu cylinder, slice by spark errosion with moving wire.
You then have 3 mm discs which are easily thinned further by mechanical grinding, if necessary, followed by dimple grinding and polishing.
Final perforation can be achieved either by ion beam thinning or electropolishing - if you layers don't conduct, ion beam thinning is probably better.
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David, I suggest 2% n-propyl gallate in 100% glycerol. I have used it as an anti-fade with many types of samples. It works as well as any commercial product that I have tried. It is easy to make, just stir overnight. It is inexpensive. I use fingernail polish to affix a coverslip to the slide. see the following reference Giloh H, Sedat JW. Fluorescence microscopy: reduced photobleaching of rhodamine and fluorescein protein conjugates by n-propyl gallate. Science. 1982 Sep 24;217(4566):1252-5. Larry
elliott-at-arizona.edu wrote: } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } The Microscopy ListServer -- CoSponsor: The Microscopy Society of America } To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver } On-Line Help http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- } } That may be true, but the person sees quite nice, specific, multi- } channel staining (controls in place). I was surprised. } } That said, any recommendations for an anti-fade? } } David } } } On Oct 30, 2006, at 4:38 PM, heckman-at-bgnet.bgsu.edu wrote: } } } } David- } } It would be amazing if the person saw any specific staining. Spurr's } } is almost impenetrable when it comes to putting a big molecule like an } } antibody into the polymerized material. } } Carol } } } } } } } } ==============================Original Headers============================== } 7, 22 -- From elliott-at-arizona.edu Mon Oct 30 21:17:05 2006 } 7, 22 -- Received: from smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (deagol.email.Arizona.EDU [128.196.133.142]) } 7, 22 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k9V3H5Z3000446 } 7, 22 -- for {Microscopy-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com} ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:17:05 -0600 } 7, 22 -- Received: from localhost (faramir.email.arizona.edu [10.0.0.218]) } 7, 22 -- by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E6211C7F81 } 7, 22 -- for {Microscopy-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com} ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:17:04 -0700 (MST) } 7, 22 -- Received: from [192.168.0.30] (doctorelliott.us [70.57.226.104]) } 7, 22 -- by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F6711C81AD } 7, 22 -- for {Microscopy-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com} ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:17:03 -0700 (MST) } 7, 22 -- Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) } 7, 22 -- In-Reply-To: {1162251520-26358.041.123-smmsdV2.1.2-at-smtp.bgsu.edu} } 7, 22 -- References: {1162251520-26358.041.123-smmsdV2.1.2-at-smtp.bgsu.edu} } 7, 22 -- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed } 7, 22 -- Message-Id: {59D6BD8D-00AE-4957-A48E-D036C9CD94D5-at-arizona.edu} } 7, 22 -- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit } 7, 22 -- From: David Elliott {elliott-at-arizona.edu} } 7, 22 -- Subject: Re: [Microscopy] anti-fade for spurs sections } 7, 22 -- Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:17:01 -0700 } 7, 22 -- To: Microscopy ListServer {Microscopy-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com} } 7, 22 -- X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) } 7, 22 -- X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at email.arizona.edu } ==============================End of - Headers============================== }
-- Larry Ackerman, Associate Specialist UCSF, Dept. of Anatomy, Rm S1347 513 Parnassus Ave., Box 0452 San Francisco, CA 94143
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==============================Original Headers============================== 5, 30 -- From Larry.Ackerman-at-ucsf.edu Tue Oct 31 16:37:22 2006 5, 30 -- Received: from emfmcb01.ucsfmedicalcenter.org (emfmcb01.ucsfmedicalcenter.org [64.54.46.97]) 5, 30 -- by ns.microscopy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k9VMbMQR022501 5, 30 -- for {Microscopy-at-microscopy.com} ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:37:22 -0600 5, 30 -- Received: from 64.54.128.151 by emfmcb02.ucsfmedicalcenter.org with 5, 30 -- ESMTP (Tumbleweed Email Firewall SMTP Relay (Email Firewall v6.1.0)); 5, 30 -- Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:49:16 -0800 5, 30 -- X-Server-Uuid: 44B63953-633F-4500-B2DA-A3E478718104 5, 30 -- Received: from [128.218.123.88] ([128.218.123.88]) by 5, 30 -- exvs06.net.ucsf.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 31 Oct 5, 30 -- 2006 14:37:13 -0800 5, 30 -- Message-ID: {4547D008.8090700-at-ucsf.edu} 5, 30 -- Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:36:56 -0800 5, 30 -- From: "Larry Ackerman" {larry.ackerman-at-ucsf.edu} 5, 30 -- Reply-to: larry.ackerman-at-ucsf.edu 5, 30 -- Organization: UCSF, NeuroAnatomy 5, 30 -- User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Macintosh/20050923) 5, 30 -- X-Accept-Language: en-us, en 5, 30 -- MIME-Version: 1.0 5, 30 -- To: Microscopy-at-microscopy.com 5, 30 -- Subject: Re: [Microscopy] Re: anti-fade for spurs sections 5, 30 -- References: {200610310322.k9V3MAij008163-at-ns.microscopy.com} 5, 30 -- In-Reply-To: {200610310322.k9V3MAij008163-at-ns.microscopy.com} 5, 30 -- X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2006 22:37:13.0624 (UTC) 5, 30 -- FILETIME=[1C4C6980:01C6FD3D] 5, 30 -- X-WSS-ID: 69590D661IO2901398-01-01 5, 30 -- Content-Type: text/plain; 5, 30 -- charset=iso-8859-1; 5, 30 -- format=flowed 5, 30 -- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ==============================End of - Headers==============================
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