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From: Murphy, Judy :      murphy-at-sjdccd.cc.ca.us
Date: 1 Feb 1996 17:14:08 -0800
Subject: SEM/EDX Technologist Opening

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"EM Lab" {emlab-at-sjdccd.cc.ca.us} ,
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Altera Corporation
SEM/EDX Technologist (Reliability Technician Opportunity)


COMPANY: Altera Corporation is a leader in advanced programmable logic
devices and software. Our continued growth and success necessitates the need
for the
following talented individual to join our team.

JOB DESCRIPTION: In this position you will work with product, reliability and
technology engineers to identify appropriate failure analysis techniques,
provide physical analysis service to identify the root causes of the failures,

document the results, and inform the engineers of the root causes for
corrective actions. You will also coordinate the maintenance of failure
analysis equipment.

QUALIFICATIONS: The ideal candidate will have one plus years related
experience in physical analysis. Also they will be familiar with usage of
analysis equipment including SEM, EDX, precision cross sectioning, RIE, Jet
Etcher and chemical de-processing set-up. Good communication skills, ability
to handle multiple projects and interact effectively with others is a must.

BENEFITS: Altera offers a challenging environment along with comprehensive
benefits which include profit sharing, company matching 401(k) plan and an
Employee Stock Purchase Plan.

CONTACT: Principals only please. EOE.
Send resume to:

Altera Corporation,
Human Resources,
Attn: JG/SJDC295,
2610 Orchard Parkway,
San Jose, CA 95134-2020.
FAX: 408-435-5065.







From: rlmarkgraf-at-ucdavis.edu (Rick Markgraf)
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:16:37 -0800
Subject: Re: cleaning LM lenses

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} Diana van Driel wrote:
} I was recommended to clean any gunked up lens with a knob of polystyrene
} foam - no chemicals, just the dry foam rubbed in a circular motion onto the
} lens. Over the years none of my Zeiss lenses has suffered any damage from
} this.

Have you inspected the front lenses of your objectives under
magnification to see if there are scratches in the coating? If there are
none, is is a testament to the durability of the Zeiss coatings.

I have seen too many microscope lenses (yes, even Zeiss) marred by
rubbing with dry materiels. I don't recommend this for any lens. The dust
particles that settle on lenses, particularly uncovered oculars, act like
sandpaper when rubbed across the lens surface. Solutions such as lens
cleaners lubricate these particles and reduce their abrasive effect. Cotton
buds tend to lift the particles into their fibers, while, I believe,
polystyrene would tend to keep them at the lens surface where they can do
damage.

This discussion of cleaning gunked immersion lenses misses the real
problem, in my mind. I care for 2100 microscopes constantly in use by
university students. We use only synthetic immersion oils. Despite
warnings, a certain number of these microscopes end up with immersion oil on
the high dry (40X) objectives, rendering them useless until cleaned. Since
the microscopes may be of 8 different brands, of varied models and ages, my
cleaning method has to work for them all, and be applicable in a classroom
situation. Cotton buds and glass cleaner (Windex or something similar) used
in a wash and dry pattern, work well for cleaning all lenses and is
relatively benign to microscope and student. Glass cleaner doesn't work
well for immersion oil on the 40X, because it requires repeated application
of the glass cleaner to remove all traces, a time-consuming effort.
The US Government, and particularly the state of California, have
stringent safety rules governing use of chemicals. While xylene, may be the
best cleaner for immersion oil, its toxicity is a drawback and I hesitate to
recommend it for students in a classroom environment. Same goes for pet
ether, methyl-ethyl ketone, acetone or chloroform. Alcohol would be a
preferred solution, but, because of warnings about its use with older
microscopes, I hesitate to recommend it. Perhaps when the older microscopes
are completely phased out of our inventory ...
Immersion oil seems to be a popular thread with this list. I would
appreciate any comments or ideas.

Rick Markgraf
Microscope Services
University of California, Davis
rlmarkgraf-at-ucdavis.edu
PH. (916)752-3477 FAX (916)752-6363







From: vpdravid-at-casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:23:46 -0600
Subject: Position Open

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"Matthew Libera" {mlibera-at-vaxa.stevens-tech.edu} ,
"Eric Lifshin" {lifshin-at-crd.ge.com} , "Charlie Lyman" {cel1-at-lehigh.edu} ,
"Tom Malis" {Tom.Malis-at-cc2smtp.emr.ca} , "Jon McCarthy" {jonm-at-noran.com} ,
"Stuart McKernan" {stuartm-at-maroon.tc.umn.edu} ,
"Mike Miller" {xkm-at-ornl.gov} , "John Mansfield" {jfmjfm-at-umich.edu} ,
"Joe Mayer" {jmayer-at-vaxww1.mpi-stuttgart.mpg.de} ,
{Microscopy-at-aaem.amc.anl.gov} , "Joe Michael" {jrmicha-at-sandia.gov} ,
"Terry Mitchell" {temitchell-at-lanl.gov}

Dear Friends:

There is an immediate opening in our group at Northwestern
University for a Postdoctoral Scholar or a Research Associate, in the area
of Analytical Electron Microscopy/Materials Science. I would greatly
appreciate it if you could pass on the following information to interested
parties. Please have anyone interested contact me at the
address/e-mail/phone below.

Thanks !

Vinayak
============================================================================

POSITION OPEN: Postdoctoral Scholar or Research Associate

Area: Analytical Electron Microscopy & Materials Science

Qualification: A PhD in Materials Science/Physics or related area. Very
strong hands-on experience in various AEM techniques is required, including
transmission EELS, x-ray microanalysis and CBED. Experience in specimen
preparation of variety of materials, especially x-sectional TEM is
required. Preference will be given to those who have demonstrated skills
and publications using FEG TEM/STEM/SEM and interfacial/defect phenomena in
solids.

Instrumentation available at NU in the newly restructured Electron
Probe Instrumentation Center (EPIC) includes: A Hitachi HF-2000 FEG
TEM/STEM with x-ray, EELS, in-situ IV/LHe holder and e- holography set-up,
a Hitachi S4500-II FEG SEM with x-ray, EBSP/OIM and LHe stage with in-situ
IV probes, a Hitachi H8100 cTEM, and access to various other TEMs/SEMs and
other analytical instrumentation.

Research involves use of diverse AEM techniques to probe problems
of thin film growth, interfaces & grain boundaries in oxide systems.

The position is open immediately for at least one year, renewable
upon mutual agreement for longer period. Salary and benefits will
commensurate with experience and skills.

Please contact immediately:

*******************************************************
(Vinayak P. Dravid)
Associate Professor, Materials Science & Engineering
Director, Electron Probe Instrumentation Center (EPIC)
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL 60208, USA
Ph.: (847) 467-1363, Fax: (847) 491-7820
E-mail: v-dravid-at-nwu.edu
*******************************************************


Thanks,

(NOTE THE NEW AREA CODE)
*******************************************************
(Vinayak P. Dravid)
Associate Professor, Materials Science & Engineering
Director, Electron Probe Instrumentation Center (EPIC)
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL 60208, USA
Ph.: (847) 467-1363, Fax: (847) 491-7820
E-mail: v-dravid-at-nwu.edu
*******************************************************






From: DonPfield-at-aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 07:50:17 -0500
Subject: XRF Upgrade

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Thanks for all the help. I will contact each suggestion.

DonPfield




From: Michaela Just :      MICHAELA-at-MOON.OVI.AC.ZA
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:54:46 CAT
Subject: unsubscribe

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unsubscribe microscopy newsgroup, thanx
Michaela Just
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From: kelloes-at-emlab.cb.uga.edu
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 11:54:10 +0000
Subject: Short (8-15 pages) Electron Microscopy Article

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Hello on the Net:

I need help in either getting articles or article references
on a good, short EM paper that would be useful for teaching
students. In the July-August 1992 American Scientist Magazine,
there was an excellent article, entitled "The New Vision of Light
Microscopy". This is an excellent paper on LM and image analysis
for students and also for technician references. If anyone out
there has any suggestions or ideas, please let me know. Thank you in
advance. Cathy Kelloes




From: Leo Marin :      leo-at-spine.med.utoronto.ca
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:34:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Heat Pen

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In the past I have used chloroform routinely for expanding thin sections.
Because of the hazardous nature of this chemical I tried a heat pen
(amps - .125), but it was totally ineffective. Would a more powerful
heat pen be effective in reducing compression ? I would appreciate
some feed back on this.
Thanks
Leo




From: John Gabrovsek :      gabrovj-at-cesmtp.ccf.org
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 10:31:02 -0500
Subject: TEM,Staining problem

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While discussion is going on about the precipitate that is forming on
grids even when ultrapure boiled water is used (Cartwright, Lovett).
I have another question. I see sometimes grids jumping in plastic
dish becose of static electricity. I imagine that if we place charged
grid on stain solution that some stain will precipitate.Is out there
anybody who would comment for this possibility?
John Gabrovsek





From: Joiner Cartwright, Jr., Ph.D. :      joiner-at-bcm.tmc.edu
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 10:59:27 -0600
Subject: Re: stain problem

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At 04:28 PM 2/1/96 -0600, you wrote:

"Do you wet your grids before putting them in your methanolic uranyl acetate?"

No, we haven't been wetting the grids first. But that sounds like a
reasonable thing to do. If Mollenhauer suggested it, it must be good.

*********************

"I also have one caution about using acetic acid to clean grids. If you
leave the grids in the acetic acid too long, you'll get flakes of copper on
your sections."


Yes, we're careful about that. One thing that may be contributing to the
problem is that we're using the thin bar "Super 200" grids because we need
to maximize the open space. These grids are difficult to wash as thoroughly
as we'd like because there is less metal for the sections to adhere to and
they are easily washed off the grid. But we've been using these grids and
stain procedure successfully for years. We are looking for things in the
laboratory environment that have recently changed. Our pay scale is not high
on the list of suspects.

Thank you, Jane.

* * Joiner Cartwright, Jr. * *





From: Shea Miller :      MILLERS-at-em.agr.ca
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 09:21:32 -0500
Subject: freeze substitution to retain soluble components

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Greetings all!
I am trying to use freeze substitution to retain soluble
oligosaccharides in plant tissues, and am not yet convinced that I
have been successful, partly because of embedding/infiltration
problems (I think!). We have tried a variation of the tannic acid
fixation with Kaeser's substitution cocktail, and stuff seems to
look ok (tough to really assess when the scope has been down,
unfortunately), although we have been advised that probably LR
White is easier to work with than Lowycryl K4M, which is what we
used the last time, and it doesn't section happily. Would like to
try another run (just got some fresh LR White) and thought it
would be useful to ask for some input from the group. It's
probably of interest to more than me, but if folks prefer to
respond directly, I will summarize the responses and post them.
I'm certainly looking forward to your input!

TIA
shea

S.Shea Miller
Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada
Centre for Food and Animal Research
Central Experimental Farm
Ottawa, Ontario
Canada K1A 0C6
Phone: 613-759-1760
Fax: 613-759-1765
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From: Joiner Cartwright, Jr., Ph.D. :      joiner-at-bcm.tmc.edu
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 14:14:01 -0600
Subject: Re: Stain problem

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At 08:55 AM 2/2/96 -0800, you wrote:

} Could the UA somehow have been cross-contaminated with Pb?
} Sometimes a weak wash with 0.02 N NaOH will help with Pb deposits-if that
} is the source of the problem.
}
}
} Doug Davis
}
**********************
Doug,

We've been pretty careful not to cross contaminate. We may have to resort to
after-the-fact cleaning, but I would like to eleminate the problem before it
occurs. Thanks for the suggestion.

* * Joiner Cartwright, Jr. * *





From: Andy Blackwood
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 12:00:15 -0500
Subject: Audit at U of Hawaii

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2 February 1996


To: Microscopy BB

I think there is something about the circumstances described over the last
few days by Tina Carvalho that recalls some of the recent discussion of
ethical values.

No matter how high and noble our calling, we all work within rules. Some of
them are institutional, some professional and some come from the laws of our
state and our nation. Whatever their source, however, the rules are what the
rules are.

If we don't like the rules, we can work to change them, but none of us has a
license to violate them. Auditors, internal or external, are in the business
of finding violations of the rules, and some of them do a very good job of
doing just that. All of us are tempted from time to time to bend or to break
the rules under which we operate, sometimes for a very good purpose. In the
case of our microscopy supplies business, for example, we may be asked to
sell the components of a sputter coating system separately so that they can
be bought out of a budget intended for consumables, when the rules say that
the system is capital equipment, to come out of another budget. Is this
right? Or is it a conspiracy to defraud? Does the noble purpose (the fact
that the funds will go back to the sponsor) make any difference? How about
the request that we predate or postdate the invoice, to get it into the
"right" year?

It seems to me that we are all better off if we just force ourselves to live
within the rules instead of trying to rationalize our efforts to get around
them.

BTW, am I the only person who wonders which is the chicken and which is the
egg when Tina comments about the lack of commercial EM facilities within her
state?

Andy

Andrew W. Blackwood, Ph.D.
Structure Probe, Inc.
63 Unquowa Road
Fairfield, CT 06430-5015
Ph: 1 203 254 0000
FAX: 1 203 254 2262
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From: CSENCSITS-at-aaem.amc.anl.gov
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 16:55:14 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Pt TEM grids

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Does anyone make Pt TEM grids? They are needed for high temperature
experiments-other grids oxidize.

Roseann Csencsits
Argonne National Laboratory
Argonne, IL
708-252-4977




From: CSENCSITS-at-aaem.amc.anl.gov
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 16:53:52 -0600 (CST)
Subject: JEOL 4000-double tilt holders

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Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase some used double tilt
top entry specimen holders for a JEOL 4000 EX? Is there someone
decommissioning a JEOL 4000EX that would like to sell their specimen holders?

Roseann Csencsits
Argonne National Laboratory
Argonne, IL
708-252-4977




From: Cheri Owen :      cowen-at-cmb.biosci.wayne.edu
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 16:16:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: TEM Embedding question (fwd)

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Does anyone have a protocol for using (HPMA?) instead of propylene oxide and
embedding coverslips directly in cell wells, and then using liquid
nitrogen to remove the coverslip after plastic is polymerized?





From: Paul Webster :      Paul.Webster-at-quickmail.yale.edu
Date: 2 Feb 1996 17:40:07 -0500
Subject: Re: freeze substitution

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Dear Shea,

Have you considered fixing the tissue in aldehyde and embedding in one of the
other (hydrophobic) Lowicryl resins (e.g. HM 20, HM 23). They polymerize at
lower temperatures and cut very well. We have had some success with soluble
proteins in the pancreas and there are published examples of this method.

Here are a few references which might be of interest:
van Genderen et al, 1991 J. Cell Biol. 115:1009-1019.
Oprins et al, 1994 J. Histochem. Cytochem. 42:497-503.

There is also a recent paper in Microscopy Research & Technique which covers
this subject but omits to refer to the above papers. The paper is in MRT, 1996
33:251-261. Look too at the work by Humbel & Schwarz which is cited in the MRT
paper.





From: :      oliver-at-ipas2.afip.mil
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 17:26:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Audit at U of Hawaii

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On Fri, 2 Feb 1996 AWBlackwoo-at-aol.com wrote:

} 2 February 1996
}
} From: Andy Blackwood
}
} To: Microscopy BB
}
} I think there is something about the circumstances described over the last
} few days by Tina Carvalho that recalls some of the recent discussion of
} ethical values.
}
} No matter how high and noble our calling, we all work within rules. Some of
} them are institutional, some professional and some come from the laws of our
} state and our nation. Whatever their source, however, the rules are what the
} rules are.
}
} If we don't like the rules, we can work to change them, but none of us has a
} license to violate them.

On the contrary. The idea that the existence of arbitrary rules defines
ethical behavior is incorrect by construction. The classic examples,
of course are in the realm of human rights violations -- where the
ethical actions are explicitly those which are against the rules imposed
by an unethical or irrational government.

It is *not* necesarily unethical to break rules, particularly
when those rules are arbitrary, capricious, or in themselves
unethical.


} It seems to me that we are all better off if we just force ourselves to live
} within the rules instead of trying to rationalize our efforts to get around
} them.
}

When you call efforts to get around irresponsible regulations
"rationalization" you beg the question that sometimes getting
around the regulation is the only ethical thing to do. Sometimes
finding an excuse for observing the regulations, and thus avoiding
actions which involve personal risk, is the rationalization.

Ethics and rules are not orthogonal, but I, at least, refuse to
let arbitrary bureacrats and supercilious functionaries get away
with calling me "unethical" if I am not sufficiently obsequious
to their dictates.

billo




From: oshel-at-ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Philip Oshel)
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 20:41:03 -0500
Subject: Re: More on database S/W

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} Considering the number of comments and questions I received concerning my
} recent recommendation of Q&A database software...
} Don Grimes, Microscopy Today

I have used Q&A, and must agree with Don Grimes. Most database
programs have a lot of unnecessary bells and whistles.

&&& Illigitimi non carborundum &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
Philip Oshel
Center for Electron Microscopy
University of Illinois
(217)244-3145
oshel-at-ux1.cso.uiuc.edu






From: GVKM07A-at-PRODIGY.COM (DR CHARLES A GARBER)
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 23:50:36 EST
Subject: Platinum grids

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-- [ From: Charles A. Garber, Ph. D. * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

On February 20 was written:

} Subject: Pt TEM grids
}
} Does anyone make Pt TEM grids? They are needed for high temperature
} experiments-other grids oxidize.
}
} Roseann Csencsits
} Argonne National Laboratory
} Argonne, IL
} 708-252-4977
}
}
Pt grids are not in our printed catalog but are to be found in our all-
electronic catalog on our WWW website as indicated below, in several
different mesh sizes.


Chuck

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From: HENRY P ADAMS :      hadams-at-nmsu.edu
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 10:36:17 -0700 (MST)
Subject: DBC box for Hitachi H7000

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I am in the proces of purchasing a digital image acquisition system for a
Hitachi H7000 stem. To do this I need a digital beam control box to
interface the microscope to the acquisition system. The later models, eg.
Hitachi H7100 have this circuitry built in but the older models (H7000)
need the DBC box which Hitachi made but no longer does. Does anyone
out there have one that they don't use anymore or know of any extras
collecting dust on a shelf somewhere? I am slightly desparate and have
some money (not much) to pay for such a beast.
Thanks in advance for info or sources,
Hank Adams
EML, New Mexico State Univ
email: hadams-at-nmsu.edu
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From: emccjb-at-ttuhsc.edu (Charles J. Butterick)
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 11:44:45 -0600
Subject: Re: Audit at U of Hawaii

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Andrew W. Blackwood, Ph.D. Structure Probe, Inc. wrote:
"......It seems to me that we are all better off if we just force
ourselves to live within the rules instead of trying to rationalize our
efforts to get around
them........".

Andy is correct. The rules and laws must be followed. Those we
don't agree with we can work to change. But am I the only one who reads
Andy's entire commentary (that only mentions what academics do to get
around some regulation in order to purchase an item) and feels resentment?
I have been approached many times by vendors who ask me to write
lock-out specifications so I will buy from only one source. Other vendors
have informed me that if I bought a certain dollar amount of supplies, they
would throw in the instrument for free that uses those supplies. More than
once I have successfully appealed to the State of Texas on a bid where an
unscrupulous vendor misrepresents their instrumentation and/or the price.
Some vendors are as eager to earn the academic dollar as the academic is to
stretch what little he/she has.
What about vendors/business people who appeal to the government
and/or granting agencies to restrict the activities of the academics, thus
reducing competition? Chuck Garber will readily inform you of the meeting
that promulagated the rule that says instrumentation purchased with federal
dollars cannot be used for commercial purposes. When that rule was made,
there was no academic representation (the perspective of scientists at
NSF/NIH is different than that of scientists in colleges and universities).
Is that fair? What about the politically incorrect white vendor(s) who set
up, or use, minority/women fronts in order to sell their products? Is
there any noble purpose for vendors who abuse the system for profit and
gain?
A more important question would ask why is there such a strident
militancy against academics among certain individuals at SPI? Let it out,
guys, so maybe we can feel your pain......

Chuck




Charles J. Butterick (Chuck)
Electron Microscopy Center
Department of Cell Biology
and Biochemistry
Texas Tech University Health
Sciences Center
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Lubbock, Texas 79430

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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:21:16 -0500
Subject: Re: Anonymous Inquiry

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In response to the inquiry from anonymous subscriber,
ratyrg-at-esvax.dnet.dupont.com, posted on 96-01-24 (regarding availability of
cryomicrotomy courses), please be advised that AMC Group offers a series of
intensive hands-on workshops on cryomicrotomy on a regular basis. We also
offer other advanced workshops including the FIB cross-sectioning and
wedge-polishing for site-specific TEM specimen preparation. For the
workshops schedule and other informative material on the general subject of
specimen preparation, please see our page on WWW at the Microscopy-Online
site (http:// www.Microscopy-Online.com/). For further information, please
contact me directly. Thanks.

Renee E. Nicholas
Workshops Coordinator
AMC Group




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Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 14:51:40 -0500 (EST)
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From: oshel-at-ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Philip Oshel)
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 13:03:54 -0500
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} What about vendors/business people who appeal to the government
} and/or granting agencies to restrict the activities of the academics, thus
} reducing competition?
} Charles J. Butterick (Chuck)

Or, as an actual experience, the SEM vendor who threatened--the
correct word--to file a complaint with US Customs, and force a *previous*
employer to pay a multi-thousand-dollar penalty if we didn't buy a US-made
SEM.
(Needless to say, we didn't, and they didn't, since it was a
fatuous threat. And a permanent loss of business.)
Phil Oshel
(Not at U. Ill. at above the time)

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Philip Oshel
Center for Electron Microscopy
University of Illinois
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From: MicroToday-at-aol.com
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 17:36:11 -0500
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Group:
I am sure that many of you are familiar with the nifty microscopy images
produced by David Scharf. If not, allow me to note that they have been
featured in Life, Time, National Geographic, Scientific American, Discover,
Natural History, Harpers, The Saturday Evening Post, etc.
As it happens, I am in the process of producing a series of 16 of his
best images - typically as 23 in x 19 in, HIGH quality, lithographic prints.
Descriptions, etc. of the series is contained in the next issue of
Microscopy Today, which will be mailed in a week's time. Should you,
including our international associates, not be receiving the newsletter and
have a potiential interest in the prints, kindly advise by eMail and I would
be delighted to send you a no cost description of the series.
And, should the publication of microscopy prints be an "enjoyable"
hobby, I may extend the series. Should you have microscopy images that you
consider worthy of reproduction, I would appreciate hear from you.
Understanding that there is a bit of "commercialism" in this note, I
hope that the uniqueness of the subject causes not many of you to be
offended.
Best regards to all,
Don Grimes, Microscopy Today






From: Mobiewan-at-aol.com
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 19:43:46 -0500
Subject: SEM for sale

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Do you know anyone who might be interested in an ISI Super III-A SEM that's
in excellent operating condition for only $8,000? We are in the St. Paul, MN
area and would be happy to demo the scope in our location on your specimen.
This workhorse would be an excellent instrument for a small
college/lab/hobbyist or manufacturer. Contact me for more specs or info.
Ask me about a $300 travel rebate offer.

Mark Overmyer
Kevmar Equipment Co.




From: dianavd-at-eye.usyd.edu.au (Diana van Driel)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 11:53:02 +1100
Subject: Re: Heat Pen

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} In the past I have used chloroform routinely for expanding thin sections.
} Because of the hazardous nature of this chemical I tried a heat pen
} (amps - .125), but it was totally ineffective. Would a more powerful
} heat pen be effective in reducing compression ? I would appreciate
} some feed back on this.
} Thanks
} Leo

The heat pen I use is fine as long as it is held close to the section and
used for around 30 secs (longer for some sections).


Diana van Driel
Dept Ophthalmology
Sydney University 2006
NSW, AUSTRALIA






From: Keith Moulding :      mcmouldk-at-uxmail.ust.hk
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 15:40:10 +0800
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Sixth Asia-Pacific Conference On Electron Microscopy.

Under the Auspices of The International Federation of Societies
for Electron Microscopy (IFSEM) and The Committee of Asia-Pacific
Societies for Electron Microscopy (CAPSEM).

The Sixth Asia-Pacific Conference on electron Microscope will be
held at the Chinese University of Hong Kong, to be held on
July 1-5, 1996.

Final call for abstracts.

The deadline for abstracts has been extend to 15th February, 1996.
If you are close to the deadline, please use an express mail service
to submit your abstracts. Faxed abstracts cannot be accepted.


The conference will provide a forum for the dissemination of new
information on the application of scanning and transmission electron
microscopy, diffraction and microanalysis in life and materials
sciences. The conference will include scientific sessions (plenary
lectures, symposia oral presentations and posters). There will also
be an exhibition of scientific instruments together with workshops
and open laboratories.

*******************************************************************
Contact address:

The 6APEM conference,
Secretariat,
Chintek Promotion Services,
13/C Trust Tower,
68 Johston Road,
Wanchai,
Hong Kong.

FAX: (852) 28611022, attention Ms. Karina Ng.
(852) 25296045


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Please contact the above address only. Please do not send requests
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From: Joiner Cartwright, Jr., Ph.D. :      joiner-at-bcm.tmc.edu
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 11:01:57 -0600
Subject: Re: Staining Problems

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At 02:41 PM 2/4/96 -0500, you wrote:

} Dear Joiner,
} If you find a solution to your staining problems, could you please let me
} know? I have used the same receipe for UA and LC for over 20 years without
} problems. But recently, have been haunted by the symptoms you relayed, with
} always using ddwater and trying NaOH washes, different grid suppliers... I am
} ready to record the position of the planets when I get good staining. I
} wonder if such can be related to low humidity and increased static
} electricity???????????? I hope you are able to solve this curse and that you
} will share such with me. Needless to say, I will let you know if I have any
} luck.
}
} Best regards,
}
} Robyn Rufner, Ph.D.
} Deborah Research Institute, 20 Pine Mill Rd., Browns Mills, NJ 08015
} 609-893-1016, fax: 609-893-2441, email: rrufner-at-aol.com
}
********************
Robyn -

I will indeed share what I've gleened from this thread, but as I told Dwight
Beebe, not until you all have solved my problem. No, actually I will pass it
on. That's what this listserver is for. The static charge sometimes found on
grids has been suggested to be causing precipitation of the stain. If I can
find one of those antistatic guns that we used to de-charge our LP's with,
I'll try it, being the student of reason and logic that I am and staunch
supporter of the scientific meathod. Then at the next full moon I'm going to
nail a dead cat to the north side of an oak tree....

* * Joiner Cartwright, Jr. * *





From: John_R_Reffner-at-rohmhaas.com (John R Reffner)
Date: 1/31/96 5:58 AM
Subject: CD ROM for archiving

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I'm also looking in to CDR's for archiving. I think we will get the Pinnacle
5040, a 2x write 4x read, which runs about $1300 ($1000 internal). HP makes
one for about the same cost, Yamaha and Sony have models for a bit more $.

Any comments from people already using any of these?


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Dear subscribers,

Is anyone able to assist me in finding a CD ROM writer for image archieving
in the price range of about 1000 $?
Would be possibile to send me addresses where are those available?

Thanks for Your help

LAjos Pogany
pogany-at-power.szfki.kfki.hu






From: Steinmeyer-at-mbox.biophysik.uni-hannover.de
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 18:14:12 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Ca2+-Measurements with fura

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Hello all,

does anyone know if there is a newsgroup or a listserver discussing problems
of measuring Ca2+ with fura?
Perhaps a group dealing with fluorescence microscopy in general would help.

Thanks for any help

--
Ralf Steinmeyer (Steinmeyer-at-mbox.biophysik.uni-hannover.de)
UNI Hannover Herrenhaeuser Str. 2
Inst. f. Biophysik 30419 Hannover




From: Glen Macdonald :      glenmac-at-u.washington.edu
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 10:03:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: cleaning LM lenses

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We use Kodak lens cleaner for routine cleaning, plastic dropper bottles
are refilled from the more affordable quart containers. Chloroform is
reserved for obstinate deposits, like when someone immerses a non-DPX
lens into the DPX or Permount.

A couple of microscope technicians that have worked on our equipment use
lighter fluid. It dries without leaving a film and yet is claimed not to
attack lens adhesives or coatings. Has anyone else used lighter fluid on
lenses? Personally, I've only used to take scuff marks of vinyl
flooring.

Regards,


Glen MacDonald
Research Scientist
Hearing Research Laboratories of the
Virginia Merrill Bloedel Hearing Research Center
Box 35-7923
University of Washington
Seattle, WA 98195-7923
(206) 616-4156
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From: William R Oliver :      oliver-at-ipas4.afip.mil
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 17:43:21 -0500 (EST)
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On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, Don Chernoff at ASM wrote:

} Recent messages by Blackwood and Oliver are examples of two opposing points
} of view about ethics and philosophy. On one side is the normative view:
} that there exist absolute standards ('norms') for conduct. On the other
} side is the relative view: standards depend on the situation.

I'm not so sure that it's a question of absolute versus situational
ethics as much as *who* defines the "right" and "wrong." My position
is not that ethics are situational; my position is that bureaucratic
rules and ethics are not the same. Thus, noncompliance is not prima
facie evidence that someone has done something "wrong." My primary
concern is with the increasing criminalization of noncompliance, leading
to allegations of "fraud," "scientific misconduct," and such.

I am not a scofflaw, and I certainly try to live within rules within
reason. However, I don't mistake regulatory pronouncements for divine
dispensation. Not confusing the two does not equate to the support of
anarchy, nor does necessarily make it easy to rationalize any actions,
as a different respondent suggests. Indeed, I might suggest the
opposite -- that recognizing and accepting individual responsibility
for individual ethical decisions independent of an external rulemaking
bureaucracy might lead to more careful consideration of action, not less.
Relying on legalistic justifications is perhaps not the last, but certainly
one of the favorite refuges of a scoundrel.

} Let me remind the reader that we are not talking about human rights
} violations, tyranny or murder here. We are only talking about money. It
} really isn't worth doing more than 'blowing off steam'. I say follow the
} rules that exist and work to change the rules that appear improper.

You bring up another interesting idea, that we are not talking about
human rights, but, instead, "We are only talking about money."

In fact, we *are* talking about human rights. It isn't "only money" if a
governmental agency, by its regulatory or enforcement rights, deprives you
of your livelihood, appropriates your possessions, and criminalizes
violation. When investigations result in allegations of fraud there is
resultant criminal liability; the only question then is whether or not the
regulatory agency wants to take you down bad enough to expend the effort.
It may be only money, but when legal fees and seizures destroy life
savings it is more than a mere inconvenience. When allegations of fraud
or "scientific misconduct" based on technical violations of regulatory
pronouncements leads to the destruction of a career, it is a nontrivial
life event. For me, at least, it would not be "only money" at risk. As
ex-Secretary Donovan said after the trials that destroyed his career in
spite of finding him innocent, "Where do I go to get my reputation back?"

When the time and effort it takes to attempt to satisfy the voracious
appetitite of a regulatory agency detracts from scientific investigation,
patient care, or stifles innovation and experimentation, it is a loss to
more than a single investigator. When regulatory demands and limitations
force new intellectual exploration and development off the shores of the
US, it hurts this nation badly.

In spite of all of this, I would take a more sanguine attitude about
today's regulatory atmosphere were it not for the problem that, in my
personal opinion, in many areas the regulatory morass is so byzantine and
self-contratictory that it is fundamentally impossible to remain in
compliance given limited time and resources to devote to doing so. In
many a regulatory setting, particularly an investigation, the person being
investigated is by no means considered "innocent until proven guilty."
Instead, the assumption is that the worst possible interpretation is the
correct one, and it is the burden of the person being investigated to
prove his or her innocence. And the investigators have all the
resources. It is no surprise that even the innocent plea bargain when
they face financial ruin in the face of defending themselves against the
charges of "fraud," "conspiracy," etc., etc., etc.

In such an atmosphere, simply trying to do one's best is just not good
enough. A person who thinks he or she is working within the rules simply
doesn't know all the rules. There are no innocent, only the untargeted,
and obscurity is a weak defense.

Of course, I could be wrong.

billo







From: WARRENJ1-at-cliffy.polaroid.com
Date: 2/3/96 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: Audit at U of Hawaii

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I believe that I am one of the vendors that Chuck Butterick is
referring to that offered *free* equipment with the purchase of a
certain amount of supplies. It has been a a year or two since I
offered the program to Chuck.

He is correct that the idea was to get around budget rules that allow
unlimited purchase of supplies but no capital or equipment purchases.
In this particular instance, if you bought the equipment and the
supplies(film, in this case), paying the lowest available pricing, you
would spend the same $ as you would if we gave you the hardware and
you paid the premium price for the requisite cases of film.

I will admit that we have a vested interest in placing our equipment
with customers so that we sell film. However, I would suggest that if
our customers have a need for any of our products and due to various
constraints are unable to acquire it through equipment purchase
funding, we are working to meet the customers needs-we cant make the
customer invest in equipment or participate in a program if they do
not want to.

Yes, I am in sales and my livelihood depends on what I sell. I believe
that what I sell offers my customers a better way of doing their
job;more effectively and more efficiently-if I didnt, I'd quit.

Certainly I would agree that some vendors may have unscrupulous
practices and I do not condone that. I am asking you to consider that
the intent behind our program and possibly others is to benefit you-so
you can have the tools you need to do your job.

John D. Warren
Eastern US Sales Manager
Helios Scientific Group
Polaroid Corporation
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Andrew W. Blackwood, Ph.D. Structure Probe, Inc. wrote:
"......It seems to me that we are all better off if we just force
ourselves to live within the rules instead of trying to rationalize our
efforts to get around
them........".

Andy is correct. The rules and laws must be followed. Those we
don't agree with we can work to change. But am I the only one who reads
Andy's entire commentary (that only mentions what academics do to get
around some regulation in order to purchase an item) and feels resentment?
I have been approached many times by vendors who ask me to write
lock-out specifications so I will buy from only one source. Other vendors
have informed me that if I bought a certain dollar amount of supplies, they
would throw in the instrument for free that uses those supplies. More than
once I have successfully appealed to the State of Texas on a bid where an
unscrupulous vendor misrepresents their instrumentation and/or the price.
Some vendors are as eager to earn the academic dollar as the academic is to
stretch what little he/she has.
What about vendors/business people who appeal to the government
and/or granting agencies to restrict the activities of the academics, thus
reducing competition? Chuck Garber will readily inform you of the meeting
that promulagated the rule that says instrumentation purchased with federal
dollars cannot be used for commercial purposes. When that rule was made,
there was no academic representation (the perspective of scientists at
NSF/NIH is different than that of scientists in colleges and universities).
Is that fair? What about the politically incorrect white vendor(s) who set
up, or use, minority/women fronts in order to sell their products? Is there
any noble purpose for vendors who abuse the system for profit and gain?
A more important question would ask why is there such a strident
militancy against academics among certain individuals at SPI? Let it out,
guys, so maybe we can feel your pain......

Chuck




Charles J. Butterick (Chuck)
Electron Microscopy Center
Department of Cell Biology
and Biochemistry
Texas Tech University Health
Sciences Center
3601 4th Street
Lubbock, Texas 79430

vox (806) 743-1633
fax (806) 743-1219
email emccjb-at-ttuhsc.edu or
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From: Richard.Larker-at-mb.luth.se (Richard Larker)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 17:32:04 +0100
Subject: TEM spec. prep. by Gatan Disc Grinder on SBT diamond films

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This is a request for information from colleagues experienced with the
thinning of TEM specimens held by a Gatan Disc Grinder against South Bay
Technology (or 3M Imperial) diamond abrasive films. First some information:


My TEM specimens are taken from joints that have been diffusion bonded by
Hot Isostatic Pressing, using the method described in J. Mater. Sci. 29
(1994) 4404-4414. The diffusion couples are as paired semicylinders fitted
into a small metal tube (3 mm outer diameter) of stainless steel or nickel.
This tube acts as an encapsulation for the isostatic argon pressure (200
MPa) during HIP, and afterwards the capsule is simply sliced with diamond
saw before thinning,leaving the capsule as a stabilizing collar around the
diffusion couples avoiding cracking for materials having very different
coefficients of thermal expansion, such as silicon nitride and Ni-base
superalloys. The materials joined so far include Ni-base superalloys (both
single crystal and polycrystalline), silicon nitride, titanium nitride, as
well as CMC (Si3N4/TiN) and MMC (TiN/Ni) compositionally graded materials
(FGM´s).

In June 1995, I participated in a very informative TEM Spec. Prep. Course
(lead by Ron Anderson, IBM, East Fishkill Lab, NY, USA) held at BAL-TEC AG
in Liechtenstein. After that, I decided to change the type of thinning
abrasives from diamond spray on a soft cloth to SBT diamond abrasive films
with fixed diamonds (30µm, 15µm, 6µm, 3µm, 1µm and 0.5µm grain sizes),
finally followed by colloidal silica on a soft cloth.

However, due to the usefulness of retaining the stabilizing collar of
capsule tube, I still want to use the Gatan Disk Grinder (GDG) for parallel
thinning, instead of the otherwise impressive SBT Tri-pod polisher
demonstrated at the course. Regarding the glue for fixing the specimen on
the specimen mount of the GDG, I have changed from wax to Crystalbond 509,
in order to avoid remaining films after cleaning in aceton. Finally, I
intend to perform low-angle ion beam milling using the BAL-TEC RES 010,
possibly preceeded by dimple grinding.


Based on this, I would like your comments on the following questions:

-What are the experiences from the combination Gatan Disc Grinder and South
Bay Technology (or 3M Imperial) diamond abrasive films (8´´, plain back),
adhering by capillary forces to a slowly (50-100rpm) rotating glass plate?

-Is it always (or exclusively for ductile materials) necessary to use all
of the above grain size steps and/or remove a damage layer from the
previous step corresponding up to three times the grinding grain size? (If
so, given a cutting wheel such as Struers 330CA having 68µm (Grit #220)
diamonds, it seems necessary to cut samples thicker than 400µm!)

-Is it necessary/unsuitable to press the GDG against the diamond abrasive
film, or is the weight of the GDG itself (660g) sufficient? (If the
specimen area would carry the total weight, it would correspond to a
pressure of approx. 1MPa (135psi).

-Is it beneficial to rotate the GDG itself during polishing?

-Is it beneficial to grind down the specimen continously or incrementally
(50µm steps are recommended by Gatan). If stepwise, should the steps be
related to the diamond film grain size?

-Is the fit between the specimen mount and the GDG itself crucial for the
integrity of the glued specimen? Which tolerances (after wear) can be
tolerated?


Thanks in advance,

/Richard
________________________________________________________________________
Dr. Richard Larker, Ph.D. Phone: +46 920 91107
Research fellow Fax: +46 920 99309
Division of Engineering Materials
Lulea University of Technology E-mail: Richard.Larker-at-mb.luth.se
S-97187 Lulea, SWEDEN
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From: ldm2-at-apollo.numis.nwu.edu (L.D.Marks)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 16:02:50 -0600
Subject: Textbook(s)

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I am going to be teaching a mixed TEM/SEM course to undergraduates
in Materials Science next quarter. I am sending this note out to ask
for comments/suggestions about textbooks, both from people who have taught
and those who have been at the recieving end.

NOTE: For obvious reasons, please respond directly to me rather than
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From: elaine.levy-at-well.ox.ac.uk (Elaine Levy)
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 09:20:56 +0000
Subject: subscribe

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Please would someone send me the list serv address for subscribing to this list.

Thank you

Elaine Levy
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From: CSEDAX-at-ARCRIDE.EDU.AR
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 08:08 -0300
Subject: Need information about CIT ALCATEL difussion pumps oil

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Hi everyone,

our group has received 2 bottles of CIT ALCATEL 220
diffusion pumps oil for free. We have no information at all about how good
it would be for our JEOL SEM and we have found no cataloges around. If any of
you knows something about vapor presion of this oil, or has experience using
it, and has a little time for writing to us, we would appreciate it very
much. Thanks in advance,


Silvia Montoro
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From: Stephan Helfer :      S.Helfer-at-rbge.org.uk
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 09:48:44 BST
Subject: Re: Ethics

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Bill Oliver wrote:

} ... recognizing and accepting individual responsibility
} for individual ethical decisions ...

To me this seems to be the key; together with a well estabished line
of accountability (very important). We will still make mistakes, but
hopefully won't be alone in them...

Stephan




From: GVKM07A-at-PRODIGY.COM (DR CHARLES A GARBER)
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 07:08:50 EST
Subject: Comments of Chuck Butterick

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-- [ From: Charles A. Garber, Ph. D. * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

I would like to set the record straight about "militancy against
academics among certain individuals at SPI" and also, the record with
regard to the true complexion of those at NSF who were resonsibile for
the drafting and implimentation of NSF Important Notice 91.

First, there is no such "militancy", indeed our firm relies on the
graduates of the nation's academic institutions just like any other
employer. Our future business prospects in fact are closely
intertwined with the future prospects of our academic customers. So
any suggestion to the contrary, as they say on the other side of the
ocean, is just pure rubbish.

If there is indeed any "militancy" at all, it is on the part of a small
handfull of individuals and departments who are literally running
businesses out of their university laboratories and who feel threatened
should anyone suggest that what they are doing is not right.

So surely there is concern about anyone using university equipment in
competition against private sector laboratories such as our own. For
the most part, people I know in academia are on "our" side of this
issue and hold the view that the university's instrumentation in fact
should not be used this way. They seem to feel that those projects that
are basic and fundamental in nature and suitable for inclusion in a
student's thesis (e.g. those projects that do contribute to educational
objectives) take up the available time for their instrumentation anyhow
and that outside commercial work just gets in the way and interferes
with the progress of the students and the quality of the work being
done. So those who advocate some contrary view are clearly on the
wrong side of the tracks on this issue, and are also on the wrong side
with respect to their own academic peers.

Second, at the time of the drafting of NSF Important Notice 91, the
Director of NSF was Prof. George Pimentel, perhaps one of the most
respected and published academicians ever to head NSF. He came to NSF
from the Chemistry Department at the University of California-Berkeley.
He was an "academic" and represented "academic interests" in every
sense of the word. To suggest otherwise is to misrepresent Dr.
Pimentel's attitudes, perspectives, and outlook.

The Associate Direrctor at the time was Dr. Donald Langenberg. Prior
to his position at NSF he was a full professor of physics (at the U. of
Pennsylvania, if I remember correctly), and after his tenure at NSF
moved on to serve as President of the American Association for the
Advancement of Science, the Chancellor (I think that was the postion)
of the University of Illinois - Chicago and from there to his present
position of Chancellor of the University of Maryland system, with over
sight over all state universities in the State of Maryland.

Both Drs. Pimentel and Langenberg were in attendence at most of the
meetings that led up to the drafting of NSF Important Notice 91. And
their participation in the drafting of the document was certainly in no
way to be thought of as being passive. So for anyone to suggest that
in some way the academic community was not properly represented is
again "pure rubbish".

But intentional or not, it is obvious that there are still some who
would try to discredit the NSF Important Notice 91 document in every
possible way, in this case, by suggesting there was a lack of academic
representation among those involved with its drafting and
implimentation.

With regard to some of Chuck Butterick's other comments, unethical
behavior of any type should not be tolerated in any environment where
high quality research is being conducted. Vendors guilty of the kinds
of infractions described in Chuck's posting should be reported to the
appropriate procurement officials who have in place mechanisms by which
such abuses of process can be rooted-out and stopped. Of course it
does take two to tango and therefore the other side of the equation,
that is, the customer who is encouraging such inappropriate practices
should also be reported. While the wheel of "justice" might move
slowly, the wheel does move, but please don't paint the behavior of the
entire vendor community with the same brush. The electron optics
industry of manufacturers and distributors by and large is highly
professional and honest and when instances do occur that do not fit
this pattern, there is a process by which one can keep that kind of
circumstance from recurring in the future.

As a final comment, for anyone not personally familiar with NSF
Important Notice 91, I would be happy to FAX you a copy, just send me
your FAX number.


Chuck (Garber)
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From: Joiner Cartwright, Jr., Ph.D. :      joiner-at-bcm.tmc.edu
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 10:56:47 -0600
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At 08:21 AM 2/6/96 EST, you wrote:
} Joiner-
} If you *do* find an old Zerostat gun (which is a little like searching for
} brontosaurus chow), it's probably not going to be any good any more. The same
} effect can be acheived by using glow discharge. Have you got that on an old
} evaporator or coater? Good luck!
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From: Joiner Cartwright, Jr., Ph.D. :      joiner-at-bcm.tmc.edu
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 10:56:45 -0600
Subject: Re: Staining Problems

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At 09:06 AM 2/6/96 -0500, you wrote:
} Good Morning.
}
} Further to the note I sent you last week where I fingered the grids as my
} most likely suspect for the introduction of Pb hexagons:
}
} My understanding is that these things are made by a plating method. We had a
} program here for a while looking at the microstructure of thin film magnetic
} media for one of our then subsidiaries. The magnetic media is deposited on
} plated substrates.
}
} One of the things we struggled with, is that the plating procedure was done
} in baths contained by tanks soldered together with (you guessed it) Pb. The
} Pb impurities found their way into the plated metal (concentrating at the
} surface), and when I would microtome these things, I'd get hexagons aplenty!
}
} Perhaps the source of contamination in the grids?
}


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That has been proposed (the grids being the source) and we are gearing up to
improve our grid washing.

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From: emccjb-at-ttuhsc.edu (Charles J. Butterick)
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 11:16:35 -0600
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On June 22, 1995, Chuck Garber wrote, "A special committee, made up
of top NSF officials (the late Dr. George Pimentel played a key role in the
formulation of the final document as did also Dr. Donald Langenberg, now
Chancellor of the University of Maryland system), lawyers representing the
NSF (Mr. Charles Herz who is still at NSF in that same capacity), members
of the independent laboratory community (including myself) plus some other
knowledgeable people came up with the first draft of NSF Important Notice
91."

I still stand by my statement, no academic representation existed.
Chuck Garber was once a part of academics, but he doesn't represent
academic interests. NSF scientists, though academics at one time, are
representing NSF and no one else. That committee appears to have been a
stacked deck of cards. This is a democracy. Bad law can be overturned.




Charles J. Butterick (Chuck)
Electron Microscopy Center
Department of Cell Biology
and Biochemistry
Texas Tech University Health
Sciences Center
3601 4th Street
Lubbock, Texas 79430

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Date: 06 Feb 1996 14:02:39 -0400 (EDT)
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Dear Shea,

Low temrerature embedding/infiltration is not an easy procedure. The
concetration and the distribution of the soluble proteins play an important
role of successful LT embedding. I have had some success to retain soluble
proteins in different type of plant tissues. Enzyme activity in vacuoles
and in cell wall,using post-embedding techniques is our interest. Lowicryl
resins: HM23 and K4M, as well as LR White were used at different temperatures
and times (-80 to -20C; 2days to 2 weeks) after "mild" GA fixation OR cryo-
fixed plant tissues, using PLT techniques (dehydration at progressively
lower temperatures). LR White, after UV polymerization developed very small
air (?) "packets". It doesn't section happily, yet not a major problem.
"An Osmium-free Method of Epon Embedment That Preserves both Ultrastructure
and Antigenicity for Post-embedding Immunocytochemistry", Phen, K.D.,
Rustioni.A., and Weinberg, R.J., J. Histochem.Cytochem. 42, 1995. You may
adopt this procedure to LR White. It should work well. Good luck!
Any other ideas, please let me know.
Regards,

Laszlo J. Veto
Electron Microscopist
Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada
Summerland, BC
Ph: 604-494-7711
Fax: 604-494-0755
e-Mail: veto-at-bcrssu.agr.ca




From: John Menzies :      jmenzies-at-spartan.ac.brocku.ca
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 14:57:54 +0001 (EST)
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Thanks






From: Joiner Cartwright, Jr., Ph.D. :      joiner-at-bcm.tmc.edu
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 10:56:48 -0600
Subject: Re: Staining Problems & static

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} Robyn -
}
} I will indeed share what I've gleened from this thread, but as I told Dwight
} Beebe, not until you all have solved my problem. No, actually I will pass it
} on. That's what this listserver is for. The static charge sometimes found on
} grids has been suggested to be causing precipitation of the stain. If I can
} find one of those antistatic guns that we used to de-charge our LP's with,
} I'll try it, being the student of reason and logic that I am and staunch
} supporter of the scientific meathod. Then at the next full moon I'm going to
} nail a dead cat to the north side of an oak tree....
}
} * * Joiner Cartwright, Jr. * *

Barring a Zero-Stat gun, which I've still seen advertised
somewhere, try touching your charged grid to a bit a metal on a grounded
piece of electrical equipment. It's safe (this is how some powerbars drain
your personal static charge so you don't zap your computer).
Phil

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From: Liang, Long :      LLIANG-at-is.arco.com
Date: 06 Feb 1996 15:45:15 CST
Subject: SEM/cathodoluminescence

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Dear Microscopists,

I received a used ISI DS-130 SEM equipped with a cathodoluminescence
(CL) detector. This detector has no ellipsoidal mirror coupling to it.
I guess this must be a "diode" detector which can detect CL directly
from the sample.

(1) Does anyone have information about this type of detector ? How does
it compare to the detector with an ellipsoidal mirror ?

(2) Does anyone have experience taking CL images of quartz? I know we
cannot focus the CL, but at least we can use proper settings (by
adjusting accelerating voltage, beam current, etc) to optimize the CL
resolution. Thanks.

Long Liang
ARCO EPMA/SEM Lab
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From: sassaroli-at-msvax.mssm.edu
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 17:46:18 -0500
Subject: Re: Battle of the Chuck's

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} On June 22, 1995, Chuck Garber wrote, "A special committee, made up
} of top NSF officials (the late Dr. George Pimentel played a key role in the
} formulation of the final document as did also Dr. Donald Langenberg, now
} Chancellor of the University of Maryland system), lawyers representing the
} NSF (Mr. Charles Herz who is still at NSF in that same capacity), members
} of the independent laboratory community (including myself) plus some other
} knowledgeable people came up with the first draft of NSF Important Notice
} 91."
}
} I still stand by my statement, no academic representation existed.
} Chuck Garber was once a part of academics, but he doesn't represent
} academic interests. NSF scientists, though academics at one time, are
} representing NSF and no one else. That committee appears to have been a
} stacked deck of cards. This is a democracy. Bad law can be overturned.
}
}
}
}
} Charles J. Butterick (Chuck)
} Electron Microscopy Center
} Department of Cell Biology
} and Biochemistry
} Texas Tech University Health
} Sciences Center
} 3601 4th Street
} Lubbock, Texas 79430
}
} vox (806) 743-1633
} fax (806) 743-1219
} email emccjb-at-ttuhsc.edu or
} chuck-at-micron1.lubb.ttuhsc.edu

Dear Chuck's (Butterick and Garber),

I really believe that this sort of dialog (?!) does not belong here.

Thank you for the excitement, though!!!

Best regards

Massimo Sassaroli, D.Sc.
Dept. of Physiology & Biophysics
Box 1218
Mount Sinai School of Medicine
1 Gustave L. Levy Pl.
New York, NY 10029-6574

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From: richard.easingwood-at-stonebow.otago.ac.nz (Richard Easingwood)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 14:06:49 +1100
Subject: EM: Silver screens for 3D images

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We would like to know if anyone has an opinion on the effectiveness of
using a silver screen and double projectors for 3D imaging. We do not want
to commit ourselves to buying a screen (which is quite expensive) and then
find it has been a waste of money.

We intend to use the system for illustrating talks to members of the the
public visiting the Unit and also for student classes. We would be
projecting mainly SEM images.

We would like to hear from anyone who has tried this or any other
alternative method of displaying 3D images to groups of people.

Thanks in advance,

Mark Gould


Richard Easingwood
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From: James S MArtin :      James.S.Martin-at-williams.edu
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 21:55:04 -0500 (EST)
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I am seeking facilities for SEM-EDS and/or SEM-WDS in proximity to
Berkshire county, Massachusetts (to include western MA, southern VT and
eastern NY). Anyone knowing of a commercial, industrial or academic
facility in this area, please contact me directly.

Thanks.

James Martin




From: Richard.Larker-at-mb.luth.se (Richard Larker)
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 22:48:38 +0100
Subject: More on TEM spec prep for matls science by polishing

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Dear Dr. Hendriks, (and other colleagues interested in the topic related to
the first question (Q1) below),

I have the following comments/questions (C1-6) caused by your answers
(A1-6) to my questions (Q1-6):

Q1: What are the experiences from the combination Gatan Disc Grinder and
SouthBay Technology (or 3M Imperial) diamond abrasive films (8´´, plain
back), adhering by capillary forces to a slowly (50-100rpm) rotating glass
plate?

A1: While I have not used the Gatan tool myself, I can answer you in
terms of using our SBT Polishing Fixtures. Other than the Tripod Polisher
(R) we also have other fixtures which are similar in size and weight to the
Gatan. We have had very good experience in having the films remain firmly
attached - which I presume is your question. We typically recommend that
people use the plain back films as they adhere well, are easy to remove
without damaging them and then can be re-used. This is important as the
films are not inexpensive! You may also want to note that the bottom of
the Gatan fixture is stainless steel (I believe) and it will wear when
polishing with diamond. The SBT fixtures described above have tungsten
carbide feet at the bottom to help resist wear. However, even the tungsten
carbide will wear when polishing diamond. For final polishing on samples
less than a few microns thick, it is best to use a much slower wheel - ie
less than 5 rpm.

Comment 1: In my tests so far, the SBT diamond films were firmly attached
to the wet glass plate by squeezing the water out simply by pressing a PMMA
ruler in several directions on the films. In spite of this, the specimen
(glued to the mount by Crystalbond 509 at 130 C) sticked several times to
the 30 micron diamond film and loosened from the mount, causing expensive
scratches in the film!
I tried to reduce both the incremental steps (from initially 25 micron
down to 5 micron steps) and the rotational speed from 100 rpm to 50 rpm,
but with limited success. I experienced the same problem with the 6 micron
diamond film (but not with the intermediate 15 micron!) when using 2.5
micron steps. The feeling during this "seizure" was that the whole GDG was
sucked (by capillary forces?) firmly to the film, twisting it loose,
causing scratches and loosening of the specimen from the mount. This kind
of experiences did not occur earlier when using diamond spray on soft
cloths! Perhaps I have used a little too high pressure on the GDG, but the
unpleasant tendency for it to "follow" the film was noticeable even without
any extra load. It was even noticeable when trying without any specimen
mount present in the middle of the GDG!
This was peculiar, since the instructions inside the cover of the Gatan
Disc Grinder 623 specify the following: "Polish specimen preferably using
3M Imperial Lapping films". Furthermore, the instructions recommend as
large increments as 50 micron!
Concerning your comment that the WC-Co feet of the SBT fixtures should
wear less than the large SS plate of the GDG does; supposing that is true,
what does it imply for the wear of the soft Delrin feet of the Tripod?
How is it then possible to know that the micrometer is not
"underestimating" the thinning of the specimen?
What is the influence of the specimen/feet area ratio?


Q2: Is it always (or exclusively for ductile materials) necessary to use
all of the above grain size steps and/or remove a damage layer from the
previous step corresponding up to three times the grinding grain size? (If
so, given a cutting wheel such as Struers 330CA having 68 micron (Grit
#220) diamonds, it seems necessary to cut samples thicker than 400 micron!)


A2: The short answer is NO. You do not need to use every grain size. You
do however, need to be mindful of the 3x rule when polishing. I assume
that you are interested in the microstructure of the sample being polished.
You can polish a sample from 500 microns thick down to 5 microns thick by
using only 0.5 micron film. The problem is that it will take you many,
many, many hours and consume many pieces of film. Reason the many steps
are used is to minimize the polishing time. You can obviously remove
material much faster with a 30 micron film than with a 1 micron film, but
you will also cause more damage. The polishing sequence is determined by
1) amount of material to be removed 2) desired final thickness 3) budget
for film 4) level of patience. I do not fully understand your example of
the Struers 330CA so I won't address that here.

C2: The example of the Struers 330CA diamond cutting wheel, which I have
used for slicing my samples up to now, was after some investigation found
to have a diamonds of 68 micron size (Grit #220), and if this causes 3x68
micron of damage on each side, and you follow the 3x rule with
30-15-6-3-1-0.5 micron diamond films, you simply need to cut thicker (} 740
micron!) than I have been doing so far (400 micron) to end up with any
specimen thickness at all! However, may it be the case that the cutting
wheel causes less than the anticipated 3x diamond grain size damage, due to
the low level of normal force against the surface during cutting, when
compared to polishing conditions?
Regarding thinning of ceramics like silicon nitride, which diamond grain
size steps might be omitted ? Can any step be omitted for Ni-base
superalloys?


Q3: Is it necessary/unsuitable to press the GDG against the diamond
abrasive film, or is the weight of the GDG itself (660g) sufficient? (If
the specimen area would carry the total weight, it would correspond to a
pressure of approx. 1MPa (135psi)).

A3: In general, it may be advisable to add some additional pressure
during the rough grinding stages, however, the during final polishing
stages it is best to minimize the load on the sample. Unfortunately, the
Gatan Disc Grinder has no facility which will allow you to reduce the
specimen load below the weight of the fixture. If you have had problems
with samples cracking when thinning at the final stages, excessive load is
probably the problem.

C3: Due to the experiences given in C1 above, I am not confident with
adding any extra pressure at all! Regarding the thickness of the water
film between the GDG and the diamond film, are there any estimations of the
"regimes of lubrication" (hydrodynamic, partial or boundary lubrication, as
related to the diamond grain size) below the GDG or SBT polishing fixtures,
or even below the specimen itself?


Q4: Is it beneficial to rotate the disc grinder itself during polishing?

A4: Yes, for several reasons. It is best to continually introduce new
cutting faces will increase removal efficiency and also reduce preferential
scratching in the surface. However, in some instances, people will
continue polishing in 1 orientation per grit size. This will provide a
scratch pattern in one direction. When changing to the next size film, you
can rotate the sample 90 degrees and see a new scratch pattern develop.
Once the new scratch pattern covers the surface, you know that you have
removed the scratches from the previous grit size - but not the damage!
Remember the 3x rule.

C4: For the GDG, the specimen mount may not be unambigously prevented
from rotating relative to the GDG orientation; is this also the case for
the SBT polishing fixtures that you have described?


Q5: Is it beneficial to grind down the specimen continuously or incrementally?

A5: This is a question which is peculiar to the Gatan Disc Grinder. With
the Gatan Disc Grinder your specimen is mounted to a post which DOES NOT
freely float inside the larger outside ring. Polishing is accomplished by
extending the sample below the surface of the larger outside ring. This
means that the entire weight of you fixture is resting on your sample.
There is a great likelihood that you will damage your sample and/or round
the edges of your sample. Because of this inadequacy, Gatan recommends an
incremental procedure which minimizes the effect, but maximizes the effort!
In more thoughtful designs (such as the South Bay Technology Fixtures
:-)) the sample is mounted to a free floating rod which is gravity fed into
the abrasive surface. The load on the specimen is thus spread across the
entire base of the fixture. Edge rounding is eliminated because the edges
of the sample are protected by the base of the fixture. Using this type of
fixture, the incremental polishing is not necessary.

C5: How are the SBT polishing fixtures designed to stop further thinning
of the specimen after reaching the intended thickness in each step?


Q6: Is the fit between the specimen mount and the disc grinder crucial
for the integrity of the glued specimen? What tolerances can be tolerated?


A6: Think of the disc grinder as a 2 part device 1) the piston with a
sample mounted at the bottom 2) an outside ring with a center hole. The
fit between the piston and the center hole should be very precise. This
precision is increased by making a longer contact area between the 2.
Unfortunately, the Gatan Disc Grinder has a very short contact area which
will magnify any problems. As the Gatan piston/hole are nearly in contact
with the abrasive surface, I would think the chance for abrasive wearing
away the center hole is rather likely. The sample mount is replaceable so
that part is not a big problem. I would think that if you do wear the
center hole uniformly, you could make special sample mounts to correspond
to the new center hole size. Certainly the accuracy in these 2 areas is
crucial - especially when polishing very thin.
I did notice that you are familiar with Tripod Polishing and that you
said you did not want to do that because you wanted to retain the
stabilizing collar. Since you attended Ron Anderson's course, he probably
spoke to you primarily about "wedge polishing". You may like to know that
it is also possible to use the Tripod Polisher (R) for parallel polishing
by mounting the sample in the center of the 3 micrometers. In fact, this
was the way Tripod Polishing originated. The "L" brackets and wedge
polishing techniques were later developments.
You also mentioned that you now use Crystalbond 509 for mounting your
sample to the holder. As a matter of interest, we supply an identical
product called QuickStick 135 which can be purchased in a package of 20
small (3" x .25" x .25") unwrapped sticks under part no. MWH135. An
alternative may be to use "super glue" or any cyanoacrylate. It bonds
quickly and removes completely in acetone. The only problem is that
removing it is somewhat unpredictable. Sometimes it can come off quickly,
other times it may take quite some time. It is also important to be sure
to use fresh super glue. We use super glue for wedge polishing of our TEM
samples. You can pick it up at a local hardware store.
If you would like information on any of our products, you can contact me
directly or you may contact our office in Sweden, Tudor Barnard (snip)

C6"+": How useful is the Tripod for parallel (not wedge) polishing,
compared to the other SBT polishing fixtures that you have described?
Regarding your representative in Sweden, Tudor Barnard, I bought my SBT
diamond films through him, but he was at that time (august ´95) not able to
find a cyanoacrylic glue that was soluble in acetone (but only in
di-methylformamide or tetra-chlormethane, which I consider to be far more
harmful substances!)


Thanks in advance,

/Richard
________________________________________________________________________
Dr. Richard Larker, Ph.D. Phone: +46 920 91107
Research fellow Fax: +46 920 99309
Division of Engineering Materials
Lulea University of Technology E-mail: Richard.Larker-at-mb.luth.se
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From: Jay Jerome :      jjerome-at-bgsm.edu
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 23:42:17 -0500 (EST)
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We have used the silver screen method of projecting 3-D slides of all
varieties for over 10 years. We find it by far the best method for
displaying 3-D material to a large group of people. We use separate
projectors with cross polarizers (I have heard of but not seen large
screen projector wich takes a single slide containing two images).The down
side of the procedure is the time it takes to align the two projectors
and the necessity that all slides be exactly aligned in the same way.
Nothing will make an audience sea sick faster than realigning projectors
between stereo-pairs to accomodate different alignments. We sometime
spend an entire day making sure a group of slides is all set up
similarly. For this reason, for showing one or two people our stereo
work we use premounted pairs in small, hand held viewers. However, this is
not nearly as dramatic as a huge image on a screen. Any one who has ever
stood in front of an audience and presented a stereo presentation will
also tell you that the second down side of the method is trying to keep
your composure while looking out at an audience full of people wearing
silly dark glasses in darkened room.

I hope this helps-

Jay Jerome
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On Wed, 7 Feb 1996, Richard Easingwood wrote:

}
} We would like to know if anyone has an opinion on the effectiveness of
} using a silver screen and double projectors for 3D imaging. We do not want
} to commit ourselves to buying a screen (which is quite expensive) and then
} find it has been a waste of money.
}
} We intend to use the system for illustrating talks to members of the the
} public visiting the Unit and also for student classes. We would be
} projecting mainly SEM images.
}
} We would like to hear from anyone who has tried this or any other
} alternative method of displaying 3D images to groups of people.
}
} Thanks in advance,
}
} Mark Gould
}
}
} Richard Easingwood
} South Campus Electron Microscope Unit
} Otago Medical School
} PO Box 913
} Dunedin
} NEW ZEALAND
}
} Telephone: 64-03-479 7301
} Facsimile: 64-03-479 7254
}
} SOUTHERNMOST E.M UNIT IN THE WORLD
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
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}




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From: Keith Ryan :      KPR-at-wpo.nerc.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 09:48:12 +0000
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Dear Richard

A simple way of projecting stereo images is to get a friendly photographer to
double expose your stereo pair through red and green filters onto slide film.
All you need then is to hand out the old red green glasses and appeal for
them to be returned! Its cheaper that way!

The other main item that you need to know is that there is a convention as
to which way around the exposures are made so as to register re. the red
and green and whch way around the glasses are held.

Keith Ryan
Plymouth Marine Lab.
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From: Richard.Larker-at-mb.luth.se (Richard Larker)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:20:19 +0100
Subject: Is Gatan active on the net?

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Does anybody know if Gatan has a WWW-site with FAQ´s on the net, or even
just an E-mail address?

Thanks in advance,

/Richard
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From: Manoj.Misra-at-urlus.sprint.com
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 08:36:00 -0500
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We are encountering problems in disposal of uranium salts as our site
safety officer considers it as a mixed/radioactive waste. I wonder
what is the experience of other microscopists regarding
radioactivity/disposal of uranium compounds.


Manoj MISRA
Unilever Research US
Edgewater NJ




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From: geosclmr-at-showme.missouri.edu (Lou Ross)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 09:10:10 -0600
Subject: X-sectioning of filter paper

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A student in Chemical Engineering wants to examine pore membranes in the
SEM. Currently we are looking at the membrane surfaces but he was wondering
about viewing the membranes in cross-section. Does anyone know a method to
prepare such a section? Please respond to his email address at the
University of Missouri at c517837-at-showme.missouri.edu or you can contact me
directly.

Thanks in advance.

Lou Ross

101 Geological Sciences Bldg.
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211
(314) 882-4777, 882=5458 fax






From: ppons-at-cmefcm.uncor.edu (Patricia Pons)
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 12:16:37 -0500
Subject: Jeol 100B manual

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We have recived a JEOL 100B electron microscope (Series 155037-30) as a gift
from University of Pennsylvania. Although this microscope is in good
conditions, it needs complete rehabilitacion. We have highly qualified
personnel to do this job but we found that the instruction manual and
circuits diagrams we have recived, do not much with the specifications of
the microscope.
If somebody has these manuals from JEOL 100B electron microscope (with the
series number higher than ours) which is not longer useful, we can do good
use of them in this part of the third world.

Dra Patricia Pons
Centro de Microscopia Electronica
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From: huffe-at-carbon.chem.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:08:01 -0500
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} From: Richard.Larker-at-mb.luth.se (Richard Larker)
} Subject: Is Gatan active on the net?

In Netscape navagator, I clicked on "net search"

http://home.netscape.com/home/internet-search.html

waited a moment, typed "gatan" into the search field,
pressed return, and immediately received

http://guide-p.infoseek.com/WW/NS/Titles?qt=gatan&col=WW

which also had a "similar pages" button:

http://guide-p.infoseek.com/WW/NS/frames/Titles?qt=gatan&rel=278189&col=WW&st=0

The text under "Gatan Inc" points to

http://www.macfaq.com/vendor/software/1449.html

and also gives a home page and e-mail address.

http://www.gatan.com/

I would say that it is not necessary to ask mailing lists
or Usenet news groups for www addresses. Use net search.






From: Terri_Mengelt-R26202-at-email.sps.mot.com
Date: 7 Feb 96 07:54:00 -0600
Subject: TMAH for Back Metal Etch

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Fellow Microscopists:

Does anyone have information on TMAH as a back-etch for silicon devices? I have
one paper "A New Back-Etch for Silicon Devices" P. Malberti, M. Ciappa , P.
Scacco. Also, in this paper it refers to a "bain marie". Can anyone tell me
exactly what it is? I am assuming it is like a double boiler.


Terri Mengelt
Motorola COM 1
Phoenix, Arizona 85201

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From: ldm2-at-apollo.numis.nwu.edu (L.D.Marks)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 10:00:54 -0600
Subject: Textbook(s) - Follow up

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I would like to thank everyone who responded to my earlier email
(see the end). A number of you were interested in the responses, which I
am including here (with editorial comments omitted). As a follow up, I
heard almost exclusively from faculty and only one student - how about
a few more comments from the students (I will preseverse anonimity).

This is a list of the responses:

4 Responses suggesting (but SEM only)
"Scanning Electron Microscopy and X-Ray Microanalysis", by Goldstein, et.al.,
Plenum Press

3 Responses suggesting
"Electron microscopy and analysis"
P.J.Goodhew and F.J.Humphries, Taylor and Francis 1988.

"Light and Electron Microscopy" by Slaytor and Slaytor.

"Scanning Electron Microscopy and X-Ray Microanalysis" by Robert E. Lee

"Scanning and Transmission Electron Microscopy,"
by Flegler, Heckman and Klomparens (W.H. Freeman and Co., 1993)

"Electron Beam Analysis of Materials" by Mike Loretto

---- Copy of Original Message -----

I am going to be teaching a mixed TEM/SEM course to undergraduates
in Materials Science next quarter. I am sending this note out to ask
for comments/suggestions about textbooks, both from people who have taught
and those who have been at the recieving end.

NOTE: For obvious reasons, please respond directly to me rather than
everyone on the listserver unless you really intend to do the latter.




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From: Joiner Cartwright, Jr., Ph.D. :      joiner-at-bcm.tmc.edu
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 10:59:52 -0600
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At 05:46 PM 2/6/96 -0500, you wrote:

} Dear Chuck's (Butterick and Garber),
}
} I really believe that this sort of dialog (?!) does not belong here.
}
} Thank you for the excitement, though!!!
}
} Best regards
}
} Massimo Sassaroli, D.Sc.
}
********************************

Massimo -

At the risk of adding UNNECESSARY fuel to the fire, I'm going to disagree
with you. These are issues that are indeed important, and if these two
gentlemen (and they ARE gentlemen) can hash them out without resorting to
nastiness, we will all benefit. It is easy for us academics to overlook the
position of the commercial/for profit operator, and I assume that the
converse is also true.

I would point out that there may be more than two sides to the question, or
at least an intermediate position. My lab, for example, is in a medical
school and I work WITH investigators who pay me for my services with their
grant money. My lab receives no direct grant funding, either in its capital
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From: Gib Ahlstrand :      giba-at-puccini.crl.umn.edu
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I am a microscopist with 21 years experience in Scanning Electron Microscopy in
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support technician. If you have or know of a position available that would
utilize these basic qualifications, and to receive a copy of my resume, please
contact me:

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From: slc6-at-lehigh.edu (Sharon Coe)
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1996 Lehigh Microscopy Short Courses
June 10-21, 1996
SEM, X-ray Microanalysis, AFM and SPM, AEM
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From: colijn-at-kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Henk Colijn)
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 09:03:53 -0500 (EST)
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I have projected stereo images successfully by creating red/green anaglyphs
on transparency material. We took our digital images, combined them using
PhotoShop or similar program, and printed them on a dye-sublimation
printer. Using a standard overhead projector and the red/green glasses,
the images greatly impressed my audience. The dual projector system seems
a bit specialized.

Henk

} We would like to know if anyone has an opinion on the effectiveness of
} using a silver screen and double projectors for 3D imaging. We do not want
} to commit ourselves to buying a screen (which is quite expensive) and then
} find it has been a waste of money.
}
} We intend to use the system for illustrating talks to members of the the
} public visiting the Unit and also for student classes. We would be
} projecting mainly SEM images.
}
} We would like to hear from anyone who has tried this or any other
} alternative method of displaying 3D images to groups of people.
}
} Thanks in advance,
}
} Mark Gould
}
}
} Richard Easingwood
} South Campus Electron Microscope Unit
} Otago Medical School
} PO Box 913
} Dunedin
} NEW ZEALAND
}
} Telephone: 64-03-479 7301
} Facsimile: 64-03-479 7254
}
} SOUTHERNMOST E.M UNIT IN THE WORLD
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
}

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From: jbpawley-at-facstaff.wisc.edu (Jim Pawley)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 18:33:38 -0600
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} I have projected stereo images successfully by creating red/green anaglyphs
} on transparency material. We took our digital images, combined them using
} PhotoShop or similar program, and printed them on a dye-sublimation
} printer. Using a standard overhead projector and the red/green glasses,
} the images greatly impressed my audience. The dual projector system seems
} a bit specialized.
}
} Henk

The Anaglyph system is indeed simple and easy to use and requires only an
ordinary projector and screen but it does have at least two snags. Apart
from the opportunities that it gives to "Murphy" to attack when two
exposures must be recorded on the same piece of film in register and
through different colored filters, many people get very uncomfortable when
the color of the image presented to one eye is very different from that
presented to the other. The phenomenon is referred to as "color
bombardment" and was much discussed by Vernon Barber in the late
seventies/early eighties with reference to Scanning Electron Microscopy.

The second snag is that you cannot show colored images using this system.
For instance you cannot use it to show stereo views of confocal data in
which you have superimposed separate 3D images obtained from 2 or 3
different fluorescent dyes in the same specimen. Likewise, you cannot show
stereo SEM images in which the SE signal is recorded in tones of grey while
the BSE image is superimposed in shades of red.

In addition, although there is usually less overlap between the red and
blue filters than between the red and the green, the light output in the
blue from most projectors is insufficient to convey many grey levels to the
screen and back.

Once you accept the difficulty of finding an "aluminized" screen, the Pol
system has much to recommend it.

Jim Pawley

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From: jerry-at-biochem.dental.upenn.edu
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 10:43:19 -0500
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Hello Mark Gould and Richard Easingwood,

I have done just as you suggest. Using a portable silver lenticular
(sp?) screen (~$200.00) which does not depolarize the images, a beautiful 3D
image slide show can be projected.

In our department, we have had the capability of mixing 2D and 3D images in
a single slide presentation for about 5 years now and I have even done a few
3D demonstrations at a local high school -- with great success (held their
attention from start to finish)!

As you have outlined, two matched projectors are required as well as
polaroid transparancy sheets and glasses. Using a single piece of Scotch
Tape to attach (hang) a piece of the polaroid transparancy over the front of
the objective lens of each slide projector (each piece oriented 90 degrees
to the other) is sufficient to project a polarized image on the screen.

The glasses, which each person viewing the projected images must have,
represents a bit of work. I made a template for the eyes (no ear
supports/hangers needed - see below dowell sticks) and traced the template
image for as many glasses as I needed on firm, but flexible, cardboard that
could be cut with a good pair of sharp tipped sissors.

After tracing and cutting the cardboard, using carefully applied small
pieces of Scotch Tape, I taped the polaroid 'lens pieces' from the same
sheet of polaroid material used in front of the projector lenses [CORRECTLY
ORIENTED] for left and right eye. By correctly oriented, I referring to the
necessity of having all glasses with the angular orientation of the polaroid
pieces identical -- all left and right eye orientation must be the same in
the glasses and matched to the orientation of the pieces in front of the
projector lenses. This way, all observers receive the same (correct) image
in the left and right eye.

When the 'lenses' were all taped in place, I then taped these glasses by
their right or left edge (makes no difference) to a 12 inch length of 1/4
inch wooden dowell stick so that viewers could hold the glasses in front of
their eyes (and personal prescription glasses if that's the case) much like
holding those small masks at a masquerade party. This may seem a little
amusing, and sometimes gets a laugh at the beginning of a 3D presentation,
but it was the method I developed to circumvent any health hazard concerns
from the repeated public use these glasses -- this is why there are no ear
supports as on regular glasses.

From the SEM image standpoint, I take two photos of the same subject
(carefully aligned to be nearly the same field) at angles of +/- 5 degrees
off verticle by stage tilts. I can then make direct positive slide
transparancies with B/W 35 mm microfilm for projection. Both images are
matched for size when projected on the screen and simply superimposed -- the
glasses and polaroid pieces do all the separation of images to create a very
clear and satisfactory 3D image for the viewers.

Hope this helps. This note has been a sort of 'stream of thought'
description so please don't hesitate to ask any questions.

Good luck -- Jerry Harrison






From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 13:37:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Uranyl Acetate

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} We are encountering problems in disposal of uranium salts as our site
} safety officer considers it as a mixed/radioactive waste. I wonder
} what is the experience of other microscopists regarding
} radioactivity/disposal of uranium compounds.
}
Dear Manoj,
The law in New York allows us to pour uranyl acetate down the regular
sink for the amounts used for staining. For larger amounts, they have speci-
fied procedures, and our responsibility is to give the material to them with
the activity listed on a data sheet--they do the rest.
Yours,
Bill Tivol





From: Scott Holt :      102467.2752-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: 07 Feb 96 18:53:12 EST
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Dear Dr. Larker,

In response to you questions regarding the use of a GATAN disc grinder on
diamond lapping films:

While I don't mean for this response to be an advertisement for product, I must
preface my remarks by mentioning that the experiences and methods described here
occurred using the products of my employer: BUEHLER, LTD in our development
laboratory. Therefore, I, like Mr. Henriks, do have a commercial interest in
your successful specimen preparation.

A1: In response to your query on experiences with GATAN's disc grinder on
Diamond Lapping Films, I also have not used the GATAN fixture; however, I have
tried (successfully, I might add) to grind metallurgically mounted samples
(1-1/4" in diameter) on BUEHLER's ULTRA-PREP diamond films. The problem of
adhesion between the sample and the film, when water is used as a lubricant,
does cause movement of the diamond film on the glass wheel. Our experiences
indicate that wheel speed makes no difference. However, success was achieved by
using a PSA (Pressure Sensitive Adhesive) backed film, attached to the surface
of a POLIMET Pad. It was determined that the diamond films are extremely flat
compared to comparably sized silicon carbide papers, and therefore a thin film
of water between sample and abrasive film causes the sticking problem. Breaking
up this film of water is the key to stopping the sticking. The POLIMET pad is
perforated, leaving small depressions in spots under the film, while maintaining
the rigidity needed to keep the sample flat. Another option for you is to
break up the smooth, flat surface in contact with the film; i.e. the bottom of
your GATAN fixture (this may not be the more convenient option, however).

With regard to your question about the DELRIN feet of tripodding type
polishers, I have had experience here as well. BUEHLER's TRIPOINT POLISHER(TM)
also uses DELRIN feet. These DO wear when held against the diamond films.
However, the purpose of the TRIPOINT POLISHER(TM) type fixtures was originally
to cross-section microelectronic materials. While the DELRIN does abrade
slowly, it does not abrade anywhere near the rate of silicon, GaAs, etc. The
micrometers on which the feet are mounted are there for the purpose of adjusting
tilt and pitch of the sample, as well as adjusting for the insignificant (when
polishing most materials) wear encountered on the feet.

The influence of the DELRIN foot area is important with regard to the sticking
problem. Obviously, the smaller the feet, the less sticking that will occur.
However, another variable should be considered: The abrasive size. On a 30
micron diamond film, the TRIPOINT POLISHER(TM) does not stick because the
diamond is large enough to allow air to break up the water film between foot and
diamond film. However, when you get in the smaller sizes, e.g. 1 to 0.5
microns, the DELRIN feet become 'polished', and the sticking problem begins to
increase. This is sometimes felt as a steadily growing chattering of sample on
abrasive surface. My suggestion is to cut grooves in the DELRIN feet in order
to break up the large surface area found there.

A2: The 3X rule of abrasive damage removal was proposed by a competing
metallurgical supply company a number of years ago. It is a very good guideline
to work with, but it is not a scientifically proven rule, as far as I am aware.
Of course ductile materials will tend to follow the rule more than hard, tough
materials. Therefore, I don't see any reason why you must use every abrasive
size while grinding your materials. However, for samples where edge retention
is important, or where a cross-section of extremely thin layers is being
attempted, I have found that the prescribed steps of 30, 15, 6, 3, 1 and 0.5
micron diamond films are necessary. Especially the latter case.

If you would like to eliminate a significant portion of the grinding that is
necessary, you may want to try a diamond wafering blade which contains a finer
abrasive than the 68 micron diamond you are currently using. We offer a blade
which contains diamond about 1/13th this size, and which is designed for exactly
this purpose. We call this the L5 series blade. You can contact me directly by
e-mail, phone or fax for more info. The surface finish produced is close to
that produced by a 3 micron abrasive film. I do have a BUEHLER produced,
technical brochure (Note: contains info on only our products) which describes
the effects of cutting force, speed, abrasive size, etc., if you would be
interested.

A3: Our experience has been that low loads give better results on diamond
lapping films than high loads. This is especially true with ductile materials.
Cleaning the films with a fresh, folded paper towel during the grinding step
also improves the result obtained on most materials. The towel captures loose
diamond and swarf before it can be reintroduced to the sample; causing scratches
or embedding. Make sure to use a fresh towel with every abrasive size change.

A4: I differ with Mr. Henriks on this question. I don't suggest rotating the
specimen during each grinding step. Rotating the specimen does not introduce
fresh abrasive to the sample. Only the wheel rotation does this.

When the scratch pattern from the previous abrasive is removed, the damage may
or may not be removed (again, depending on the material). However, this may not
be relevant in the case of ceramics such as the silicon nitride you mentioned.
This is because the damage mechanisms are different between ductile and
hard/tough materials.

A5: I do agree with Mr. Henriks on this question. I was, at one time,
Application Engineer at SBT, and have had the opportunity to work with all of
their carbide footed grinding fixtures. The free-floating nature of their
fixtures does reduce the load on the specimen. I believe they still offer a
fixture with spring counterbalancing, which further reduces the specimen load.
These fixtures have an adjustable lock-nut which is dialed to a relative depth.
This nut contacts the piston housing when the piston reaches it's lowest point.
This stops the polishing.

A6: I am not familiar enough with the GATAN fixture to answer this question
fully. However, my experience with using a tripod type device (as Mr. Henriks
suggested) with the sample mounted in the middle of the fixture produces a
sample damaging instability during polishing. Shifting of the fixture from a
base created by the sample and two DELRIN feet to the sample and another set of
feet causes edge chipping if not carefully monitored.

If I can answer any questions for you regarding diamond lapping films,
fixturing, etc., please don't hesitate to contact me directly.

Best regards,

Scott D. Holt
BUEHLER, LTD.
41 Waukegan Rd.
Lake Bluff, IL 60044
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From: South Bay Technology :      73531.1344-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: 07 Feb 96 18:36:13 EST
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Dear Dr. Larker:

Here are my respones R1-6 to your comments C1-6 from my answers A1-6 to your
questions Q1-6:

Response 1: As you may have read in the response from Scott Walck:

"If you use the diamond films with the GDG, when the sample becomes planar with
the base of the grinder, then the grinder tends to stick to the film by surface
tension because of the large area. This is even more of a problem at the lower
grit sizes."

This will not happen on a soft cloth with diamond spray because you are not
able to form a vacuum as you can with our film. The downside is that you will
end up with rounded edges on your sample. The vacuum problem is exacerbated by
using the small increments which are best to use with the gatan Disc Grinder.
As you polish the sample down or use very small increments, the entire base
becomes nearly co-planar which causes the vacuum to form. On the SBt fixtures,
there is a space between the outside ring and the center piston which minimizes
this contact area and hence the vacuum effect.

I am not surprised that Gatan recommends 3M films, they are not too likely to
refer their customers to SBT! As far as the 50u increments go, that may be an
advisable number to use where it minimizes rocking on the sample caused by the
sample sticking out below the bottom of the fixture, but also may minimize the
vacuum effect. I'm guessing that is the reason.

RE: The Tripod Polisher (R)
The sof t delrin feet of the Tripod Polisher are actually made to wear out. The
idea is that you don't want any material which is harder than your sample to
make contact with the wheel. We use this logic in Tripod Polishing because the
sample becomes very thin and fragile and we do not want any particles from WC-Co
feet to containate the film. Furthermore, the Tripod Polisher (R) has the
facility to adjust for the change in level of the feet. The fixtures with the
tungsten carbide do not have the ability to be adjusted after polishing has
begun so we try to maintain the parallelism as best we can by resisting wear.
The measurements on the micrometer are, for the most part, not used. You make
"relative" adjustments with the micrometers, but you do not actually measure
your sample thickness with them. Sample thickness is typically determined
optically.

The delrin feet on the Tripod Polisher (R) can also create a vacuum if the are
polished flat and co-planar. In fact, we sometimes grind facets onto the feet
to maintain more of a point contact with the film. One of our competitors sells
a tripod Polisher with "non-rotating" micrometers. They charge you more for
them and they are counterproductive. By utilizing non-rotating micrometers you
are creating the very situation you are trying to avoid.

Response 2: If I understand this now, you are cutting your sample with 68u
diamonds which would indicate a damage layer of 3 x 68 or 204u. I suppose you
would need a fairly thick sample if you need to cut on both sides of the sample.
I'm not sure how to avoid this. Of course, this 3x rule is a general rule and
will vary with sample type. Perhaps you would like to do a little study for us
in your spare time?! :} ) Assuming that you are looking for a 1u final thickness
and that you will use each of these steps, the process would then be something
like this:

30u: Polish until 105u thick
15u: Polish until 51u thick
6u: Polish until 21u thick
3u: Polish until 10u thick
1u: Polish until 4u thick
0.5u: Polish until 2u thick
Colloidal silica for final polish.

The rough formula I use is (3 x current particle size) + particle size of next
film in sequence. This gives me the amount of material I need remaining after a
particular step in order to remove thedamage and still have "good" material to
work with. Of course, you may want to be a little more conservative or
aggressive depending on your confidence level. You can remove film steps and
apply the same formula to come up with alternative sequences.

Response 3: You got me on this one. Actually, you probably got me on the other
ones too, but at least I could come up with some reasonable answer for you! : {)

Response 4: No. The SBT polishing fixtures have specimen mounts that are
maintain in a single orientation by way of 2 locating pins that come out of the
center piston and fit into holes in the back of the removable mouting block.
The piston does not rotate because there is a slot in the piston. A set screw
then passes through the outside ring and into the slot to prevent rotation of
the piston relative to the outside ring.

Response 5: We have a micrometer type arrangement at the top of the piston which
allows you to dial in an amount of material to remove. This is done after a
simple zeroing procedure. The dial at the top of the piston will stop the
polishing process at the desired thickness by making physical contact with the
outside ring. This prevents the piston was moving down any further.

Response 6: The Tripod Polisher is extremely effective in polishing very flat
and parralel samples. You have great ability to make adjustments to correct for
any errors in sample mounting and other inaccuracies in the process. However,
since you have the ability to make the changes, you generally need to make them
which makes the process a bit more cumbersome. You can definitely get a great
sample, but you do have to work for it.

Our other fixtures rely more heavily on minimizing the variables. We have a
mounting press of sorts that you use to firmly press your sample against your
mounting block minimizing glue thickness and maximizing parallelism. We also
recommend that you polish your mounting block while mounted in the fixture prior
to mounting your sample. This ensures that your moutning block is parallel to
the plane of the tungsten carbide feet. As there are no adjustments possible,
it is best to follow the entire procedure carefully. Even with no adjustments,
you can get a pretty darn parallel sample! Wealso make a polishing machine
(Model 920) that can be fitted with workstations to hold and rotate the
fixtures. We also build custom attachments (for less than you might think!)
which allow a cusomer to polish 2 sides parallel to each other by simply
flipping the sample over and not re-mounting.

RE: Cyanoacrylate
My understanding is that any cyanoacrylate will be acetone soluble. Perhaps
they just don't list acetone on the label for some reason? A sure bet is to get
something like a nail bonding glue that is used to fix fingernails or attach
fake nails. Check the cosmetic counter. I will try to put a tube of super glue
in the mail to you, but I am not certain if it will still be good when it
arrives. I have tried this before and had problems. That's the reason we
stopped supplying it - it seemed a little silly to make an unhappy customer
because of a $3 bottle of glue that we don't even make!

Well I think I am worn out. You have asked a lot of very good questions and it
is obvious that you take your sample preparation very seriously. I am always
pleased to help in any way i can and i encourage you to contact me whenever i
may be of assistance. Of course, next time i wouldn't mind if talked about your
application for some South bay Technology equipment! : {)

Best regards-

P.S. I would love to get a copy of other responses you get concerning this
topic. Thank you!

David Henriks TEL: 800-728-2233 (toll-free in USA)
South Bay Technology, Inc. 714-492-2600
1120 Via Callejon FAX: 714-492-1499
San Clemente, CA 92673 USA e-mail: 73531.1344-at-compuserve.com
sbt-at-msa.microscopy.com

Manufacturers of Precision Sample Preparation Equipment and Supplies for
Metallography, Crystallography and Electron Microscopy.





From: Richard E. Edelmann :      edelmare-at-CASMAIL.MUOHIO.EDU
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:51:23 -500
Subject: Sputter Coater Comments?

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At the risk of getting the vendors upset ....


I am getting ready to purchase a replacement sputter coater and I
was hoping to sollicit user comments (either good or bad or general)
regarding either the Pellco SC-7 Automatic sputter coater or the
EMITech K550 automatic sputter coater (aka EMS 550) and/or the
integration of the thickness monitors available for each unit.

PLEASE EMAIL ME DIRECTLY !!!!

ALL COMMENTS WILL BE KEPT PRIVATE !!!!

(I am not looking to publically condemn nor praise either instrument
- I like both companies, but without having worked with either
instrument, I'm looking for comments from those out there who have.)

Thank you in advance.


Richard E. Edelmann
Electron Microscopy Facility Supervisor
352 Pearson Hall
Miami University, Oxford, OH 45056
Ph: 513-529-5712 Fax: 513-529-4243
E-mail: edelmare-at-muohio.edu

int.




From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 13:29:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: EM: Silver screens for 3D images

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} We would like to know if anyone has an opinion on the effectiveness of
} using a silver screen and double projectors for 3D imaging. We do not want
} to commit ourselves to buying a screen (which is quite expensive) and then
} find it has been a waste of money.
}
} We would like to hear from anyone who has tried this or any other
} alternative method of displaying 3D images to groups of people.

Dear Mark,
We have two large screens--they are aluminum, but look silvery; I
assume these are what you want--for 3D display with polarized light & dual
projectors. The images are quite spectacular and always make a big impres-
sion. If you have many 3D images to display, this kind of system may be
well worth the initial investment. The screens last for a very long time;
ours are } ~25 years old and are as good as ever. I have no idea of the
current price for these screens.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




From: Interface Analysis Centre :      K.R.Hallam-at-bristol.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 08:53:50 GMT
Subject: Uranyl Acetate (fwd)

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We are encountering problems in disposal of uranium salts as our site
safety officer considers it as a mixed/radioactive waste. I wonder
what is the experience of other microscopists regarding
radioactivity/disposal of uranium compounds.


Manoj MISRA
Unilever Research US
Edgewater NJ

Here in Bristol, we are, as long as the University Safety Office knows, and keeps
some control over it, allowed to dispose of up to 100g of uranium per week (I think
it is) in with the normal office/laboratory rubbish. I was surprised when I first found
this out, but it has allowed us to dispose of a collection of unwanted uranium
oxides and the like.
Keith






From: Halldor Gudmundsson :      Halldor.Gudmundsson-at-iti.is
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:03:54 GMT
Subject: Looking for SEM-Cryopreparation systems

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I am looking for suppliers of SEM cryopreparation and cryo-transfer systems.
Vendors, suppliers or colleagues with e-mail or fax numbers please respond
directly to me. And yes, I have done the obligatory netsearch with very few
direct scores.

Your sincerely,

Halldor Gudmundsson
Halldor Gudmundsson | Halldor.Gudmundsson-at-iti.is
Project manager |
Technological Institute of Iceland tel: +354 - 587 - 7000
Keldnaholti, IS-112 Reykjavik fax: +354 - 587 - 7409
Iceland





From: cioni-at-dst.unipi.it
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 13:02:50 +0100
Subject: MicroWord News e-mail newsletter

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Yes, please. I would like receive MicroWord News e-mail newsletter.

cioni-at-dst.unipi.it



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From: ENERGY BEAM SCIENCES, INC :      75767.640-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: 08 Feb 96 08:23:48 EST
Subject: Re: re: bain marie

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Terri-
A bain marie *is* a double boiler. It was invented by a medieval Jewish
alchemist known as Mary the Prophetess, hence the name. Aren't you glad you
asked?
Steven Slap
102134,1660-at-compuserve.com





From: nano-at-ns1.LIHTI.ORG (Nanoprobes Inc.)
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:53:33 -0500
Subject: Mechanisms of fluorescence quenching

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Does anyone know a good reference on the possible mechanisms of
fluorescence quenching? Especially processes which involve the interaction
of fluorophores with transition metal complexes or colloidal particles,
from a chemistry perspective (electron transfer, molecular orbitals and so
on).

Thanks,

Rick Powell






From: CSEDAX-at-ARCRIDE.EDU.AR
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:22 -0300
Subject: TEM/SEM: particle size distribution - Request

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Hi everyone,

I was wondering whether any of you could help giving me
some tips or references where to look for counting strategy for particles (such
as number of particles to be counted regarding the size and/or magnification).
At this moment I'm trying to obtain polystherene particles size distributions
by TEM and SEM.

Has anyone experience in working with SIGMA SCAN PRO, made by Handel, for
such a distribution? and for images analysis? I would like to hear any comment
about it or about any other software suggested for the subject.

Thanks a lot.
Silvia Montoro
CERIDE - Centre for Research and Development
Santa Fe - Argentina
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From: Joiner Cartwright, Jr., Ph.D. :      joiner-at-bcm.tmc.edu
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 10:46:45 -0600
Subject: Re: Battle of the Chuck's

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At 07:39 PM 2/7/96 -0600, you wrote:

.....Do you have any info, printed or otherwise, regarding your pricing
structure?

***************
No, I don't have anything formalized. I just sat down and calculated what we
were spending to get one case done (costs, including salaries, supplies,
overhead, etc., divided by total number of micrographs, and then how many
micrographs were shot per case). To that I add what I think is reasonable to
support equipment replacement. That's what I charge. For clinical cases the
department adds a professional component.

Joiner





From: WINDLAND-at-odin.ssec.honeywell.com
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 11:53:07 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Polysilicon etch on SOI

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I have a question on etching polysilicon on SOI material. I need to find an
etch that will etch the polysilicon and not the silicon on the buried oxide.
Feel free to call me or send your phone number. Thanks,
Mark Windland
Honeywell
612-954-2845




From: cxb41-at-po.CWRU.Edu (Christine H. Block)
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 12:33:19 -0500
Subject: Affinity

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I am looking for a phone number/ address of Affinity Labs.
who supposedly produce a monoclonal antibody for nitric oxide synthase?

Any information would be appreciated, including other sources for
NOS antibodies for immunohistochemistry.

Thanks!


Christine H. Block, Ph.D.
VA Medical Center
Cleveland OH 44106


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From: images1-at-biosci.mbp.missouri.edu (Michael Stanley)
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 11:19:57 -0600
Subject: 3d images(silver screens)

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We followed the same procedure as Henk (using PhotoShop to produce
red/green anaglyphs from pixel shifted z-sections) but then digitized the
images onto slide film (Kodak Elite) using a Polaroid Palette. A single
projector then did a great job (in fact it actually worked with red/blue
glasses...)


Hank Colijn wrote:
I have projected stereo images successfully by creating red/green anaglyphs
on transparency material. We took our digital images, combined them using
PhotoShop or similar program, and printed them on a dye-sublimation
printer. Using a standard overhead projector and the red/green glasses,
the images greatly impressed my audience. The dual projector system seems
a bit specialized.

Henk


C. Michael Stanley, Ph.D.
Coordinator, Associate Director
Molecular Cytology Core Facility
Molecular Biology Program
2 Tucker Hall
University of Missouri-Columbia
Columbia, MO. 65211
(314) 882-4895
fax= 314-882-0123






From: slakmon-at-scottscientific.com (P. Slakmon)
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 15:04:40 -0500
Subject: Automatic LN Refill systems

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Does anyone know of a commercial vendor of an Automatic LN Refill system?


Regards,


Paul Thomson
Thomson Scientific Instruments


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From: Jay Jerome :      jjerome-at-bgsm.edu
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:10:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: EM: Silver screens for 3D images

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A few comments on this thread from our experience:

We have mounted on polarizers on the ends of cardboard tubes. The tubes
are approximately the diameter of the Kodak projector lens barrel. We put
a lenght of the thin packing sponge material that our hazzardous chemicals
come wrapped in around the inside of the tube to provide friction and
hold the tube in place. This allows the polarizers to be rotated to get
maximum extinction with the glasses. We order bulk glasses for a nominal
cost. Most come with the polarizers set at 45 degrees to the horizon.
However, some glasses come with the polarizers horizontal and vertical.
The tube system allows us to adjust or projector polarizers to match
either set of glasses.

Jay Jerome
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From: wise-at-vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 09:12:37 +0000
Subject: Minor Problems

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} Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 16:31:59 -0500
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} G'day Subscribers...
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} We've got a minor glitch in the subscribe/unsubscribe system.
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Vacation? VACATION?! That's pretty cheeky. And 34C? Last week we had
MINUS 34 C! Enjoy your break, Nestor.

Bob






From: Fermin, Cesar :      fermin-at-TMC.Tulane.Edu
Date: 8 Feb 1996 08:17:18 -0500
Subject: Regulations galore!

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After reading a few of the messages on this server from users in different
states representing various regions of the USA, I think about the growing
pains we are facing with what it seems "inconsistent regulation in the UNITED"
deserves a revisit? Two items are worth recollecting: osmium and uranyl
disposal. If you think that the disposal of these chemical (which by all means
are hazardous) think about the follwing. During one my visits to California
(NASA AMES RESEARCH CENTER) I was prohibited (and instructed so formally) from
pouring SALINE (That's right PBS!) down the drain! Thus, I immediately asked
where I should urinate (you know amonia, amino acids, etc). Even though the
biosafety officer did not have a good answer (take that back... regulations)
he was rather upset. The moral of the story: I learn quickly after arriving
to the states long ago, that -the outcome of a procedure matters less than the
implementation of the regulation that requires it-. That is the good news, the
bad one is thatit will get worse if we do not inject a tiny bit of common
sense into all of this mess and others. My two daughters were taught at
school already that animals are terribly mistreated by industry and
researchers, but I had to point out to her the reality behind the production
of a juicy burger and/or taste fried chicken nudget? This was easy for me
because when I was her age I butchered the chickens we ate and witness the
killing and butchering of the pigs, cows, etc. Go on, make your contribution,
and get started now-tell as really is!


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From: Evelyn Clausnitzer :      clausnz-at-itsa.ucsf.edu
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 15:03:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: TISSUE ADHESIVE

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A visitor to our lab from Switzerland brought us an adhesive used for
sealing wounds, called HISTOACRYL Blue. We have found it to be very
useful and would like to find a supplier in the US. Any leads will be
appreciated.

Evelyn Clausnitzer
U. C. San Francisco




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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 16:17:30 -0500
Subject: Re: Antibody to Nitric Oxide Synthase

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Dear Christine H. Block:

This question was asked before, and I replied direct to the poster not to
the listserver. Your supplier for polyclonal nitric oxide synthetase
antibody is:

AFFINITY BIOREAGENTS, INC
14818 West 6th Avenue, #13A
Golden, CO 80401

Tel: (800) 527-4535, (303) 278-4535
Fax: (303) 278-2424
Email: affinity-at-bioreagents.com

In addition, you could check out:

We have just received the new (1996) Lindscott's Directory of Immunological
and Biological reagents (Order from Lindscott's Directory, 4877 Grange
Road, Santa Rosa, CA 95404; phone (707) 544-9555, Fax (415) 389-6025) which
is a good place to start looking for antibodies. Some entries for
anti-nitric oxide synthetase antibodies:

POLYCLONALS:

Rabbit antibody against inducible NOS, mouse macrophage:

Alexis Corp.
P.O. Box 927190, San Diego, CA 92192, USA
Tel: (619) 658-0065, Fax (619) 658-9224

Rabbit antibody against inducible, neuronal or endothelial NOS:

Oxford Biomedical Research
P.O. Box 522, Oxford, MI 48371
Tel (in US) 800-692-4633, Fax (810) 852-4466

MONOCLONALS:

IgG2A against brain NOS, against mac, inducible NOS, against NOS EC:

Transduction Laboratories
133 Venture Crescent #5, Lexington, KY 40510, USA
Tel (606) 259-1550, Fax (606) 259-1413

Against inducible NOS:

Research and Diagnostic antibodies
P.O. Box 8300, Berkeley, CA 94707
Tel (510) 262-9000, Fax (510) 262-9127

Since I've never used these I can't tell you whether they work, but they
are probably good places to start.

Richard D. Powell
*************************************************************
NANOPROBES, Incorporated
25 East Loop Road, Suite 124, Stony Brook, NY 11790-3350, USA
http://www.lihti.org/research/ecodev/incubten/nano/home.html

} } Does anyone in cyberspace know where I can obtain and antibody to Nitric
} } Oxide Synthase which will work on mouse brain.
} }
} } Dr Terry Robertson
} } Electron Microscopist
} } Department of Pathology
} } University of Western Australia
} } Nedlands 6009
} }
} } phone 346 2935
} } Fax 346 2891
} } email troberts-at-eosin.path.uwa.edu.au
}






From: nano-at-ns1.LIHTI.ORG (Nanoprobes Inc.)
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 18:30:11 -0500
Subject: Re: affinity/antibodies for nitric oxide synthetase

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(If this appears twice, please ignore the earlier version-my mistake for
E-mailing Microscopy-at-Sparc5 instead of MSA. My apologies)

Dear Christine Block:

Someone else asked about antibodies to nitric oxide synthetase, and I
replied direct to the poster not to the listserver. Affinity Bioreagents
supplies a polyclonal antibody to nitric oxide synthetase; their address
is:

AFFINITY BIOREAGENTS, INC
14818 West 6th Avenue, #13A
Golden, CO 80401

Tel: (800) 527-4535, (303) 278-4535
Fax: (303) 278-2424
Email: affinity-at-bioreagents.com

For other polyclonal and monoclonal antibodies (in reply to the earlier
question):

We have just received the new (1996) Lindscott's Directory of Immunological
and Biological reagents (Order from Lindscott's Directory, 4877 Grange
Road, Santa Rosa, CA 95404; phone (707) 544-9555, Fax (415) 389-6025) which
is a good place to start looking for antibodies. Some entries for
anti-nitric oxide synthetase antibodies:

POLYCLONALS:

Rabbit antibody against inducible NOS, mouse macrophage:

Alexis Corp.
P.O. Box 927190, San Diego, CA 92192, USA
Tel: (619) 658-0065, Fax (619) 658-9224

Rabbit antibody against inducible, neuronal or endothelial NOS:

Oxford Biomedical Research
P.O. Box 522, Oxford, MI 48371
Tel (in US) 800-692-4633, Fax (810) 852-4466

MONOCLONALS:

IgG2A against brain NOS, against mac, inducible NOS, against NOS EC:

Transduction Laboratories
133 Venture Crescent #5, Lexington, KY 40510, USA
Tel (606) 259-1550, Fax (606) 259-1413

Against inducible NOS:

Research and Diagnostic antibodies
P.O. Box 8300, Berkeley, CA 94707
Tel (510) 262-9000, Fax (510) 262-9127

Since I've never used these I can't tell you whether they work, but they
are probably good places to start.

Richard D. Powell
*************************************************************
NANOPROBES, Incorporated
25 East Loop Road, Suite 124, Stony Brook, NY 11790-3350, USA
http://www.lihti.org/research/ecodev/incubten/nano/home.html

} } Does anyone in cyberspace know where I can obtain and antibody to Nitric
} } Oxide Synthase which will work on mouse brain.
} }
} } Dr Terry Robertson
} } Electron Microscopist
} } Department of Pathology
} } University of Western Australia
} } Nedlands 6009
} }
} } phone 346 2935
} } Fax 346 2891
} } email troberts-at-eosin.path.uwa.edu.au
}






From: Ted Boden -at-MR.SEMATECH.Org
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 10:57:00 CST
Subject: op3

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The Materials Analysis group at SEMATECH in Austin, TX has an
immediate opening for a TEM lab Technician. SEMATECH is a
government/industry consortium working on advanced projects related
to the fabrication of 0.25/0.35um CMOS integrated circuits.

For more information please contact Carolyn Gondran -at- 512-356-3149
, Philippe Maillot -at-512-356-3944 or Ted Boden 512-356-3324 or
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JOB DESCRIPTION:
Sample preparation of semiconductor materials and devices, both
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sample preparation. TEM operation to facilitate this development
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JOB REQUIREMENTS:
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while maintaining precise records and tracking procedure.
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From: Ronald Cohn (415) 8556059 :      Ronald.Cohn-at-syntex.com
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 17:25:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: LM - Detection of apoptotic cells

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List subscribers,

We need to identify apoptotic cells in cultures of cells grown in suspension.
We would like to do this using the TUNEL (terminal transferase-mediated
dUTP-biotin nick end labeling) technique with either fluoresence or
enzyme-substrate reaction product as the read-out. I would appreciate hearing
from anyone who has used this technique regarding which commercial labeling
kits may be better than others, recommended protocols, etc. Thanks in advance.

Ron Cohn
Structural Biology Laboratory
Roche Bioscience
Palo Alto, CA
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From: Peter.Stalmans-at-med.kuleuven.ac.be (Peter Stalmans)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 09:55:27 +0100
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On March 8, 1996, a workshop on confocal microscopy will be held in the
Laboratory of Physiology, KULeuven, Belgium.

Program:

08.30: Registration
09.00: Welcome: Prof. Dr. J. Janssens, Dean of the Faculty of Medicin KU Leuven
09.15: Confocal vs conventional microscopy.
H. van der Voort, J. Bauman, H. Vrolijk, W. Sloos & H. Tanke,
SVI Hilversum, UA & RU Leiden, The Netherlands
09.45: Spontaneously spreading calcium waves in rat cardiac myocytes:
implications of the data acquisition by confocal microscopy.
W. Wussling, Martin Luther University, Halle, Germany
10.15: Coffee and demonstrations on confocal microscopes
11.00: Confocal laser scanning in the reflection mode.
Z. Mischal, CNRS, Villejuif, France
11.30: Free communications
12.00: Lunch
13.15: Demonstrations on confocal microscopes
14.00: Confocal fluorescence life time imaging with two-photon excitation.
H. Gerritsen, J. Sytsma & J. Vroom. Universiteit Utrecht, The Netherlands
14.30: Manipulation, N-dimensional visualisation and measurement of the
living cell with super-resolution and super-contrast.
P. Van Oostveldt, U Gent, Belgium
15.00: Coffee and demonstrations on confocal microscopes
15.45: Free communications
17.00: Final conclusions and farewell. B. Himpens, KU Leuven

Date and location:
The workshop will be held on Friday, March 8th, 1996 at the KULeuven
Lab Physiology, 8th floor
Onderwijs & Navorsing, Gasthuisberg
Herestraat 49
B - 3000 Leuven
Belgium

Contact person:
B. Himpens
Lab Physiology
Herestraat 49
B - 3000 Leuven
tel + 32 16 34 57 27 or + 32 16 34 71 46
fax + 32 16 34 59 91
E-mail: Bernard.Himpens-at-med.kuleuven.ac.be

More information and online registration:
See URL: http://www.kuleuven.ac.be/kuleuven/news/wcm/

Peter Stalmans
Peter.Stalmans-at-med.kuleuven.ac.be
Laboratory of Physiology KULeuven
Herestraat 49
B-3000 Leuven
Belgium
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From: Peter.Stalmans-at-med.kuleuven.ac.be (Peter Stalmans)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 10:19:07 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: No microscopy - active waste disposal

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Dear All,
A few of you have expressed surprise at my comment on disposal of active waste here in Bristol. I thought (though there is no direct microcsopy content - shouldn't
this be in one of the safety groups??) you might like a couple of quotes from the relevant University safety handbook.
"Aqueous waste. Our primary waste disposal route is via the sink... This is
both the least restrictive and the least environmentally damaging" It then goes
on about how this would be diluted by all the other waste water the University
discharges into the sewars.
"Very low levels of solid radioactive waste disposal are permitted by out authorisation from HMIP (Her Majesty's Inspectors of Pollution) to the normal waste
bins.""No visible radioactive signs are to be present on the box or bag used for
disposal and please try to ensure that the package does not look interesting..."
There are records that have to be kept, and regulations on there being no
external contamination, maximum permitted levels, only one lot per waste bin, etc.

--
Dr. Keith R. Hallam University of Bristol, Interface Analysis Centre, Oldbury
House, 121, St. Michael's Hill, Bristol, BS2 8BS, England
Telephone: + 44 (0)117 925 5666 | E-mail: k.r.hallam-at-bristol.ac.uk
Facsimile: + 44 (0)117 925 5646 | URL: http://zeus.bris.ac.uk/~phkrh/




From: Neal Nicklaus :      nnicklaus-at-nova.sarnoff.com
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 09:08:36 -0500
Subject: Image Processing Software

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Does anyone know of some "good" PC bases image processing software designed
for microscopy applications? I need to do some time based studies on
fluorescent DNA strands.

I have an optical trap set up to hold and maneuver the strands as attached
to sub micron latex beads. I want to study the effects of various enzymes
and environments on the DNA while in the trap.

Any suggestions as to software and its required (desired) hardware would be
appreciated.






Neal Nicklaus

SEQ Limited

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From: Neal Nicklaus :      nnicklaus-at-nova.sarnoff.com
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 09:15:15 -0500
Subject: UV Microscope Objectives

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Does anyone know of custom or commercially available UV microscope
objectives for use in Laser Induced Fluorescence studies?

I have contacted Zeiss, Nikon, Olympus and Leica. Zeiss has the best of the
group but the UltraFluars all fluoresce in my UV laser beam (266 nm). I
want as high an NA as possible, i.e. immersed optics, so the reflective
designs, e.g. Ealing, I have seen are not fast enough.

Fluorescence excitation wavelengths are tunable between 260 and 290 nm.
Fluorescence emissions are from 300 to 500 nm.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. I can afford a custom design after I
prove the concept at more limited wavelengths.





Neal Nicklaus

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From: tphillips-at-biosci.mbp.missouri.edu (Tom Phillips)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 09:43:13 -0500
Subject: PolyCutEase or SureCut Plastic additives

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Any comments from cyberspace on the additives that EM supply houses sell to
add to epoxy resins that are supposed to improve sectioning properties? I
am referring to products such as Poly Cut Ease (Polysciences) or SureCut
(EMS). Do people think they actually help? Are there any disadvantages?


Thomas E. Phillips, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Biological Sciences
Director, Molecular Cytology Core Facility
3 Tucker Hall
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211
(314)-882-4712 (voice)
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From: gbza40-at-udcf.gla.ac.uk
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 13:24:00 GMT
Subject: Aluminised screens for 3D projection

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With regard to using 3D aluminised screens for projecting polarised images ,
I can only add in support of Jim Pawley's comments on the advantages for
imaging colour - in my case cell reconstructions with colour coded
organelles - which come out only with the polarised system.

As regards sourcing a screen try your Chemistry colleagues who probably have
one lurking somewhere as they may project molecular graphics in this way for
teaching. This is where I borrow my portable screen from here in Glasgow !

Laurence Tetley
Dr Laurence Tetley
IBLS EM Centre
Joseph Black Building
University of Glasgow
Glasgow G12 8QQ

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From: Sheryl K. Brining :      skb-at-helix.nih.gov
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 12:57:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Suscribe

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Please send to: skb-at-helix.nih.gov Thanks.





From: bsgphy3-at-uconnvm.uconn.edu (JIM ROMANOW)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 12:58:09 -0500
Subject: Critical Point Drying

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I am searching for the most comprehensive articles about critical point
drying techniques. All suggestions are appreciated.

Any problems with going directly from ethanol into carbon dioxide or is
amyl acetate useful in between? My specimens look OK using just ethanol.

Also: I am experiencing a run of failing (most often between 400 and 800
psi) front window Dowty seals on my drying unit even if I do only 'dry'
(carbon dioxide only) test runs. Is anyone else having this problem? This
device has been operating for 17 years with few leaks. All sealing surfaces
are smooth and clean.

Thank you in advance.

Jim Romanow
Electron Microscopy Facility
Physiology and Neurobiogy Department
The University Of Connecticut
Storrs
bsgphy3-at-uconnvm.uconn.edu






From: Jay Jerome :      jjerome-at-bgsm.edu
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 11:11:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Pol Stereo Glasses

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I have had over a dozen requests for this information so I am posting it
directly to the list:

We have always purchased our stereo glasses from Ted Pella
1-800-237-3526 outside of California
They are in cardboard mounts and relatively inexpensive.
However, I did not see them listed in the current catalog. I hope they
still carry them. Any one know of an alternate supplier?


Jay Jerome
**************************************************************
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* Dept. of Pathology *
* Bowman Gray School of Medicine of Wake Forest University *
* Medical Center Blvd *
* Winston-Salem, NC 27157-1092 *
* 910-716-4972 *
* jjerome-at-bgsm.edu *
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From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 16:16:10 -0500
Subject: Pol Stereo Glasses

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From: jbpawley-at-facstaff.wisc.edu (Jim Pawley)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 12:30:41 -0600
Subject: Interested in purchasing cold stage for Philips microscope

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Hello all,

I have prototype LVSEM that employs the stage mechanism from a Philips EM
430 TEM. I would like to purchase a cold stage for this instrument if I
can find one (standard Philips rod). Anyone out there about to
"decommission" one?

Jim Pawley

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Room 1235, Engineering Research Building, FAX 608-265-5315
1500 Johnson Dr., Madison, WI, 53706 JBPAWLEY-at-FACSTAFF.WISC.EDU






From: Glenn Poirier :      glennp-at-eps.mcgill.ca
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 13:14:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: MULTIPLE USERS ON THE SEM

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Hello Everyone,
I'd just like to put in my two cents on the subject of multiple users of
an SEM (or in my case an electron microprobe)

Our instrument is used at least 16 hours a day and since I'm only paid
for eight almost all our users are trained to use the machine
independantly. This allows them faster access to the machine and saves them
or their advisors money. The only people we don't encourage to become
independant users are those who will only use the machine once or twice.
Most users require 3-4 daytime shifts before i will let them use the
machine independantly (I give them my home phone number too).

In the six years I've been running the lab I can't recall one incident
where the machine has actually been damaged by inexperienced users. On
several occasions it has been temporarily put out of commission (computer
problems, etc) but usually I can get it back on line immediately the next
day. Although there is the potential for a user to damage the instrument
(i.e during a sample change) most of the rest of the instrument is fairly
fool proof. It is easy to screw up your analyses, but difficult to hurt
the machine.

I'm sure the machine would last longer and require less service if I was
the only one operating it, but we don't have that option. I also feel
that users are much better off acquiring their own data, they know what
they want and can change their strategy if they find something unexpected

Hope this is useful.

Glenn





From: mager-at-unixg.ubc.ca (Mary Mager)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 21:23:55 -0800
Subject: Re: MULTIPLE USERS ON THE SEM

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} I'd like some input, opinions etc. on the pitfalls of having multiple
} operators on an SEM.

Dear Bonnie,
I run a Materials Engineering EM lab at the University of British
Columbia, with two SEMs and a TEM. Most of the researchers who use the
instruments are graduate students and Research Engineers. I have always
encouraged these people to do their own research on the SEMs, as much as
possible, since only they know exactly what they want and that way one me
can keep three instruments optimally used. After I show them how to use the
SEM, I watch and encourage them to ask me for further instruction for
picture taking, higher mag, etc. Some people, who have a lot of work to do,
may gain my permission to use the SEM after hours, but only after I feel
they have gained a lot of experience during working hours, when I am there
to supervise, and only after I have instructed them on how to properly shut
down and what to do in the event of problems. I also purchased the
instruments originally with ease-of-use in mind. They are fully automatic
and easy to get good results on.
I must feel that the person has a good understanding of the important
issues and knows how to properly handle the instrument. Mind you, I don't
have a field emission SEM. I have had damage, but only once in 15 years and
it could have happened in normal hours.. It also helps to scare them, be
"the ogre of the EM lab". Mind you, we are a teaching lab, so the learning
is as important as the doing.
I know many EM operators do not like the idea of letting any ham-fisted
graduate student or engineer loose on their instrument, but modern SEMs
really can be operated by any intelligent being.
So long as you satisfy yourself as to this person's knowledge,
experience and caring, I'd see no harm.
Hope this helps.

Regards,
Mary

Mary Mager
Electron Microscopist
Metals and Materials Eng, UBC
309 - 6350 Stores Rd.
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4
CANADA
tel: 604-822-5648, fax: 604-822-3619
email: mager-at-unixg.ubc.ca






From: Joiner Cartwright, Jr., Ph.D. :      joiner-at-bcm.tmc.edu
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 15:29:24 -0600
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Staining Problems & static

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At 10:17 AM 2/8/96 EST, you wrote:

".....to form yellow, iridescent hexagonal prisms of lead iodide....."

I stained one grid with our lead stain alone, and another with our uranyl
acetate stain alone. The lead stained grid had the hexagonal deposits and
the other did not. So it's not the uranyl acetate. It's interesting that
lead iodide forms hexagonal crystals.
*******************

".....Perhaps these are your crystals - a bit of a long shot since you did
not mention iodine in our elemental analysis of the crystals...."

No, there is no iodine in either of our stains, or any of the sample
preparation steps; and I did not get an iodine peak with the microprobe.
*******************


I have borrowed an anti static gun like the Zerostatic Eliminator that you
suggest. We are in the process of trying it out. At least the grids don't
jump up and cling to the lid of the plastic petri dish any more.


* * Joiner Cartwright, Jr. * *





From: gwe-at-biotech.ufl.edu (Greg Erdos)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 15:15:04 GMT
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These things help a great deal when using a glass knife. We use lecithin in
the epoxy accelerator . ( use eual weight of lecithin and accelerator, then
double the volume for use) A glass knife will last a long time if you
have it in the resin. It was a great help to students just learning to
section, They could get usable stuff the first day at the microtome. It
can give a blotchy look to empty resin areas or those that have little
density, but most tissues are "busy " enough that you never notice it. See
Mollenhauer , 1986, J. EM Tech 3:217-222
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Greg Erdos Phone: 352-392-1295
Scientific Director,
ICBR Electron Microscopy Core Lab
218 Carr Hall Fax: 352-846-0251
University of Florida E-mail: gwe-at-biotech.ufl.edu
Gainesville, FL 32611
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From: K. M. Anisur Rahman :      anis-at-execpc.com
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 16:13:35 -0800
Subject: Does tin-oxide dissolve in Acetone?

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Hi,
Can anybody let me know if SnO2 and Sb2O5 would dissolve in
Acetone at about 100°C? Many thanks,

-Anis.




From: Bonnie Davis - Kennametal Inc. :      bld_kmt-at-prlc.org
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 13:09:08 -0500 (EST)
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I'd like some input, opinions etc. on the pitfalls of having multiple
operators on an SEM. My situation is that I am part of a materials
analysis group that provides analytical services to corporate
technology. Our group consists of a number of engineers and technicians
with expertise in a variety of analytical areas. Our company has
recently hired a young PhD to do materials research in another department .
He is pushing very hard to be allowed to use our SEM at night and on weekends. He has 'used
an SEM before' and doesn't see a problem in using ours. It has always
been our practice to encourage researchers to come into the lab while
their samples are being analyzed, but not to allow individuals to use the
instrument themselves. I believe that the analysis is done more effectively
by individuals whose expertise is in that area. However, management
appears to be leaning towards changing the rules for this individual, and
having me train him on the instrument.

We have a four year old JEOL 6400 instrument with a Link eXL analyzer,
UTW detector, complete stage automation. We also have a computer system
attached for collecting digital images, we do not use polaroid film.
While this individual has used and SEM he has not used either a JEOL or
LINK system before. I feel that training would be extensive. This is currently the only SEM we have. It
is used approximately 12 hours per day by myself and my staff. Quite
often EDS analysis is carried out using computer control and stage
automation overnight. However, management feels that if someone is
willing to utilize the instrument in those few hours a week when it is
not being used, they need to take advantage of that to receive a maximum
benefit from the asset.

Several years ago we had two older SEMS and due to 'corporate
downsizing', we had only one operator. At them time I trained
approximately 2 dozen engineers who desired to use the 'extra' SEM on
their own. We disposed of the instrument about a year ago when it had
not been touched for almost a year. The time I spent in training
all of those individuals was probably greater than the time they as
a group spent using the instrument. Hindsight being perfect I wish we had
kept the old instrument!

Anyway, I would appreciate any input both pro and con from the list
regarding opening up an instrument to multiple infrequent users.




From: James S MArtin :      James.S.Martin-at-williams.edu
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 17:53:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Thanks for SEM-EDS info

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Thank you to all who provided information on SEM-EDS services in and
around western Massachusetts.

James Martin




From: AMCGroup2-at-aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 20:41:36 -0500
Subject: Microscopy Online's URL

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As a correction to my message of 02-04, please note that the URL for the
Microscopy Online Web-journal is:

http://www.Microscopy-Online.com/

Please accept my apologies.

Rene E. Nicholas
Spec. Prep. Workshop Coordinator
AMC Group




From: AMCGroup2-at-aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 20:33:11 -0500
Subject: Re: R. Larker's Spec. Prep. Ques

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For your information, the following two companies also sell the
“wedge-polishing” tool, supplies, and various consumables (diamond lapping
films/suspensions, mounting wax/glues, etc.) for TEM specimen preparation of
materials:

UltraMetrix
4802 E. Ray Rd., No. 23-267
Phoenix, AZ 85044
(602) 706-5745
FAX (602) 496-6505
e-Mail ULTMTRX-at-aol.com

Allied High-Tech Products
P.O. Box 4608
2376 E. Pacifica Place
Rancho Dominguez, CA 90220
(310) 635-2466
FAX (310) 762-6808

Rene E. Nicholas
Spec. Prep. Workshop Coordinator
AMC Group




From: rw9-at-psu.edu (Rosemary A. Walsh)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 18:50:21 GMT
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At 1:09 PM 2/9/96 -0500, Bonnie Davis - Kennametal Inc. wrote:
} I'd like some input, opinions etc. on the pitfalls of having multiple
} operators on an SEM. My situation is that I am part of a materials
} analysis group that provides analytical services to corporate
} technology. Our group consists of a number of engineers and technicians
} with expertise in a variety of analytical areas. Our company has
} recently hired a young PhD to do materials research in another department .
} He is pushing very hard to be allowed to use our SEM at night and on weekends.
} He has 'used
} an SEM before' and doesn't see a problem in using ours. It has always
} been our practice to encourage researchers to come into the lab while
} their samples are being analyzed, but not to allow individuals to use the
} instrument themselves. I believe that the analysis is done more effectively
} by individuals whose expertise is in that area. However, management
} appears to be leaning towards changing the rules for this individual, and
} having me train him on the instrument.
}
} We have a four year old JEOL 6400 instrument with a Link eXL analyzer,
} UTW detector, complete stage automation. We also have a computer system
} attached for collecting digital images, we do not use polaroid film.
} While this individual has used and SEM he has not used either a JEOL or
} LINK system before. I feel that training would be extensive. This is
} currently the only SEM we have. It
} is used approximately 12 hours per day by myself and my staff. Quite
} often EDS analysis is carried out using computer control and stage
} automation overnight. However, management feels that if someone is
} willing to utilize the instrument in those few hours a week when it is
} not being used, they need to take advantage of that to receive a maximum
} benefit from the asset.
}
} Several years ago we had two older SEMS and due to 'corporate
} downsizing', we had only one operator. At them time I trained
} approximately 2 dozen engineers who desired to use the 'extra' SEM on
} their own. We disposed of the instrument about a year ago when it had
} not been touched for almost a year. The time I spent in training
} all of those individuals was probably greater than the time they as
} a group spent using the instrument. Hindsight being perfect I wish we had
} kept the old instrument!
}
} Anyway, I would appreciate any input both pro and con from the list
} regarding opening up an instrument to multiple infrequent users.

Bonnie,
Since we encourage use of the JEOL TEM and SEM by trained users, we
run into this situation often. Currently, we require training on our
instruments plus a minimum of 15 hours of daytime use prior to an approval
of use during off hours. The principal investigator (of the grad. student
or postdoc) is also asked to agree to cover costs should any malfunction
necessitate lengthy (costly) alignment procedures. I constructed a form
for this purpose and the signed agreement is kept with the log book at the
scope. This has given me some control over the situation and those users
who agree to our demands are usually competent users. If the SEM uses a
LaB6 or is a FE, I would be more cautious, i.e., demand more daytime use
and obtain written consent to replace the crystal/filament.
One last thing to consider---an estimate of costs incurred by your
unit during the required "daytime" use if your unit does not charge other
units for instrument use.
Regards,
Rosemary Walsh






From: Richard Beanland +44 1327 356363 :      richard.beanland-at-gecm.com
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 09:01:00 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: TEM: ferroelectric materials

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Hello all,
I am currently doing TEM of ferroelectric materials (PZT, PST etc.)
and seem to be seeing domains or domain walls in thin TEM samples but not in
thick ones. I know that TEM of ferroelectrics has been done for some years -
does anyone on the listserver know of any references which describe the
contrast mechanism which makes them visible in TEM?

Many thanks in advance,

RIchard Beanland,
GMMTL Caswell,
Towcester,
Northants NN12 8EQ,
UK
Tel. +44 1327 356363
Fax. +44 1327 356775
Email richard.beanland-at-gecm.com





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From: Henrik Kaker, SZ - Metal Ravne :      Henrik.Kaker-at-guest.arnes.si
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 09:43:08 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Database

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Dear All,

All modern EDS systems include in the quantitative procedures an option
"standardless analysis". When standardless analysis is performed, tipically
the analysis of stainless steel is demonstrated with measuring transition
elements Fe, Cr, Ni, Mn, Co and V. The K-lines of these elements span in
the range 5 - 7.5 keV where the spectrometer efficiency is constant and
close to unity. The product is well behaved, and a reasonably accurate
analysis can be obtained, especially if the procedure has been "optimized"
for steel analyses. For testing standardless programs we need suitable data
base of measured intensity data with detailed information about analysis
(accelerating voltage, geometry) and detector constants. Unfortunately no
systematic collection of such data to be available in the area standardless
analysis. This is a sad situation in comparison with , for example analysis
with standards were there is an large collection of data. For this reason we
are in our laboratory decided to collect the intensity data for testing
standardless programs. Your help in adding new data sets would be much
appreciated. The rules for the data in the collection are very simple:

a) only experimental data from certified samples are included.

b) all data must be collected under known experimental conditions:
acclerating voltage, geometry (tilt angle, take-off angle) and
detector constants (Be window or other thickness, Au layer
thickness, Si dead layer thickness and Si crystal thickness).

c) only pure intensity data (after background substraction and peak
deconvolution procedure) are included.

d) weight fraction of analyzed elements must be known.

Final database will be available at EMMPDL (Electron Microscopy and
Microanalysis Public Domain Library) on anonymous FTP server WWW.AMC.ANL.GOV (Argonne
National Laboratory, IL, USA). We have no any commercial interest with
this database.

Thank you.

Henrik Kaker
Metal d.o.o.
SEM/EDS Laboratory
Koroska c.14
62390 Ravne
Slovenia

Phone: + 386 602 21 131 int.5562
Fax: + 386 602 20 436
E-mail: kaker-at-ctklj.ctk.si
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From: Richard Beanland +44 1327 356363 :      richard.beanland-at-gecm.com
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 12:40:43 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: TEM: Ferroelectric materials

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Hello all,
I am currently doing TEM of ferroelectric materials (PZT, PST etc.)
and seem to be seeing domains or domain walls in thin TEM samples but not in
thick ones. I know that TEM of ferroelectrics has been done for some years -
does anyone on the listserver know of any references which describe the
contrast mechanism which makes them visible in TEM?

Many thanks in advance,

RIchard Beanland,
GMMTL Caswell,
Towcester,
Northants NN12 8EQ,
UK
Tel. +44 1327 356363
Fax. +44 1327 356775
Email richard.beanland-at-gecm.com





From: Joe D Geller :      geller-at-world.std.com
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 08:40:01 +0001 (EST)
Subject: Re: USGS TEM Lab - Free

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IS the Gatan Ion mill still available?
Joe Geller
508 887-7000


On Thu, 11 Jan 1996, Gordon L. Nord Jr. wrote:

} Dear Microscopists,
}
} Because of the recent downsizing of the US Geological Survey the TEM lab
} must go. In addition, because the last remanents of the Bureau of Mines (may
} it rest in peace) are coming to the USGS in Reston the lab space is needed for
} other purposes by next week (gasp). All or part of the following are available
} for transfer to US academic institutions. The USGS has not mentioned any
} possibility of help with respect to shipping but I could be surprised.
}
} (1) JEOL 200B Transmission Electron Microscope in working condition (1974) with
} STEM attachment (1978).
}
} (2) Multiple stages including Be double-tilt stage by Gatan and heating stage
} by JEOL.
}
} (3) Technics Ion Mill, 1974 (works)
}
} (4) Gatan Duo Ion Mill with low voltage guns and cooling stage, 1983 (works)
}
} (5) Tracor Northern 2000 Multichannel analyser and detector 1978 (works)
}
} (6) LogEtronics enlarger 1974 (works)
}
} Contact me at the following address.
}
} Cheers,
} Gordon
}
}
} Gordon L. Nord Jr.
} 959 National Center
} U. S. Geological Survey
} Reston, VA 22092
}
} Office: 703-648-6745
} FAX: 703-648-6789
}
} gnord-at-mactem.er.usgs.gov
}
}




From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 10:48:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: message with no text

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Dear All,
It seems that I inadvertantly posted a message to this news-
group with no text. Please ignore.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




From: Stephan Helfer :      S.Helfer-at-rbge.org.uk
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 15:30:01 BST
Subject: histology techniques (for botany) etc.

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Dear Microscopists
Could anyone advise me on current developments in the embedding (wax
or otherwise) sectioning and staining of botanical specimens for
histological and anatomical examination. We have got as far as
Histoclear, but most other techniques seem to be more than fifty
years old [and working satisfactorily, I may add]. Some of the old
stains are fading though and we have to replace old slides, and this
might be an opportunity to apply any up to date technique.

Cheers

Stephan Helfer
Royal Botanic Garden
Edinburgh
Scotland UK




From: waheeschen-at-dow.com (Bill Heeschen 517-636-4005 Materials/ASL)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 12:07:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Multiple User Question

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I must echo Bob Craig's observations about "external" users. He could have
easily written that word-for-word as a fellow employee here. Our back-up
plan for extended use of high-demand instruments is to go to an informal
swing schedule. Fortunately we have not had to resort to that officially,
but most of our gang have a lot of "after hours" time logged. One method
we have utilized for increasing throughput on our "automated" instruments
is to dial in from home with Timbuktu and AppleTalk Remote Access to check
on progress. If something has gone amuck, we can either fix it remotely or
zip in to work, fix it and resume the experiment. It's not pleasant to
come in at midnight instead of going to bed, but our customer's anxiety
(hence ours!) is greatly diminished the next day.

Bill
==========================
Bill Heeschen/Analyt. Sci.- Mat. Char. -----
1897-F Building / The Dow Chemical Co. --- ---
Midland, MI 48667 U.S.A. --- D O W ---
phone: (517)636-4005 fax: (517)636-5453 --- ---
Email: waheeschen-at-dow.com -----
========================== R




From: Igor Polyakov :      Igor_Polyakov-at-qmgate.arc.nasa.gov
Date: 12 Feb 1996 11:28:50 -0800
Subject: Antibody to TRH

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Subject: Time:11:04 AM
OFFICE MEMO Antibody to TRH Date:2/12/96

Hello Everybody,
I am looking for antibody to Thyrotropin-releasing-hormone for
immunocytochemistry which will work on rat brain. Does anyone know where I can
get it?
I. Polyakov
NASA-Ames Research Center
FAX: (415)604-0046
Email:Igor_Polyakov-at-qmgate.arc.nasa.gov





From: Dave King 857-1248 T37/257-3C Ext DEKING-at-VNET.IBM.COM
Date: 12 Feb 1996 09:29:02 EST
Subject: Multiple SEM Users

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This has been a problem for us at times. The real issues are; the
ability of people to work together, and the cost of maintenance,
and keeping the instrument in top condition. We find it possible
to have up to about 3 operators, as long as they can work
together well. They also need to be in the same department (i.e.
financed together). Pride in the condition of the instrument and
the quality of results is critical.

There can be other issues, like job security. If allowing someone
access you are putting someone else out of work...........

When the machine breaks, whoever had their hand on it, must
immediately get it fixed. This works best when there's a service
contract.If there's an assigned technician, this may not be a
problem for you.

My overall impression is that the number of operators must be
limited to a couple who can work together well, and not quibble
over who did what.

{
} { {
} } ===========} Dave King { { {
} } } ------------------------------------------------------ { { { {




From: bozzola-at-siu.edu (John. J. Bozzola)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 17:03:43 -0600
Subject: ALL M: Detecting Fly Ash in River Sediment

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We have a researcher who wishes to determine if coal fly ash is present in
river water and river sediment. By LM I detect some "pearly" particulates
not present in control river sediment. Next step will be examination by
SEM.

My question: is there an established protocol for detecting and quantifying
fly ash in river water and sediment?

I will post any responses not sent to the server directly - unless
otherwise directed. Many thanks.

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From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 10:38:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: MULTIPLE USERS ON THE SEM

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To: Richard Beanland +44 1327 356363 {richard.beanland-at-gecm.com} ,
Microscopy list {microscopy-at-Sparc5.Microscopy.Com}

[various snips]
} I'd like some input, opinions etc. on the pitfalls of having multiple
} operators on an SEM.
} Our company has
} recently hired a young PhD to do materials research in another department .
} He is pushing very hard to be allowed to use our SEM at night and on weekends.

He has to be trained very well to use the machine when no staff mem-
ber is around. It is much easier to have him use the SEM during the day, and
I would insist that he do so after training until you are absolutely satis-
fied that he is competant before allowing him to work without a net.

} He has 'used
} an SEM before' and doesn't see a problem in using ours. It has always
} been our practice to encourage researchers to come into the lab while
} their samples are being analyzed, but not to allow individuals to use the
} instrument themselves.

For our facility--a NIH biotech resource--we have several clas-
sifications for outside users, from novice, for whom the staff does every-
thing, to expert, who can use the instrument without supervision. We train
the user in many steps, the first being the basics for tilting and transla-
ting the specimen, focussing and taking a picture, then changing specimens,
later changing film, starting and shutting down the scope, etc. All this
takes several months for an in-house user, and longer for someone who visits
occasionally.

} This is currently the only SEM we have. It
} is used approximately 12 hours per day by myself and my staff. Quite
} often EDS analysis is carried out using computer control and stage
} automation overnight. However, management feels that if someone is
} willing to utilize the instrument in those few hours a week when it is
} not being used, they need to take advantage of that to receive a maximum
} benefit from the asset.

There is a large negative benefit if anything goes wrong; try to
impress management that a conservative approach is best.

} Anyway, I would appreciate any input both pro and con from the list
} regarding opening up an instrument to multiple infrequent users.

This will take a *lot* of your time. Good luck, you'll need it.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




From: Greg2NJ-at-aol.com
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:54:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Image Processing Software

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Yes, there are various programs on the market. Depending on your budget, and
your need for continued support.
Probably the most ecconomic of the bunch is Image Pro Plus, soon to be
available using 32 bit, and windows 95.

The second PC based system, that I find very intuitive and has excellent
support is Kontron's KS 400 IA system. Kontron KS versions are distributed
and supported by Zeiss, Thornwood NY. The best person to contact is Uli
Kolhaaus, or Elise Shumpsy at Zeiss.

Gregory Argentieri
Sandoz Pharmaceuticals Corp
East Hanover, NJ
201-503-8617




From: Marilee.Sellers-at-nau.edu
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 15:14:18 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Embedding Problems

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Hello everyone,
I have been embedding pinon pine root tips for mycorrhiza research.
We are close to solving most of our problems but still seem to have some
left. And I was wondering if some fresh ideas may help.
Problem: Portions (it seemed to be mainly the cortical tissue) of
the root tip will not completely infiltrate and polymerize. The mantel
looks okey and central vascular area seems to embed okey. The cortical
cells seem to be our main source of infiltration problems. Some of the
samples float (even after hours or days in a vacuum). At first, we used
Spurrs resin with graded Etoh. We have not used acetone or propylene oxide
(yet).

Figuring we were not getting all the water out of the tissue nor
getting our resin into the tissue we have tried the following procedures:
1. Cut our root tip sample even smaller.
2. We obtained some Z-6040 which has been mentioned several times on this
list for helping to infiltrate impervious biological specimens. We used it
at 1% as advised by Virginia Lindley's article. But we also continued its
use in the LR White resin as recommended by Stacie Kirsch at EMS.
3. We found we had to extend our Abs. ETOH times to over night and several
days of changes of LR White. We switched to LR White as recommended in
Lindley's article.

At this point, we had some success, but still had some root tips
that wanted to float (even under vacuum). I have not worked with root tips
or mycorrhiza before, but I may be doing more in the future. Do we need to
use acetone or propylene oxide to remove all the water?

Thank-you for any comments or helpful suggestions. If you should
like respond to me at my local address, I shall summarize for the listserver.

Good day,
Marilee

Marilee Sellers
Manager, Electron Microscope Facility
Northern Arizona University
Flagstaff, AZ 86011
E-mail marilee.sellers-at-nau.edu





From: Bob Citron :      Bob_Citron-at-cc.chiron.com
Date: 2/9/96 5:05 PM
Subject: Critical Point Drying

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I am searching for the most comprehensive articles about critical point
drying techniques. All suggestions are appreciated.

Any problems with going directly from ethanol into carbon dioxide or is
amyl acetate useful in between? My specimens look OK using just ethanol.

Also: I am experiencing a run of failing (most often between 400 and 800
psi) front window Dowty seals on my drying unit even if I do only 'dry'
(carbon dioxide only) test runs. Is anyone else having this problem? This
device has been operating for 17 years with few leaks. All sealing surfaces
are smooth and clean.

Thank you in advance.

Jim Romanow
Electron Microscopy Facility
Physiology and Neurobiogy Department
The University Of Connecticut
Storrs
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From: Joiner Cartwright, Jr., Ph.D. :      joiner-at-bcm.tmc.edu
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 15:54:21 -0600
Subject: Staining problem & static

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Thanks, Gib, for your message.

"....that some stray electrostatic charges floating around on these low
humidity winter days can precipitate beautiful hex lead crystals just
doesn't click for me...."

As I had said before, I also don't think that static charges would cause
inappropriate stain precipitation, but then as you can see from the response
on the listserver, a lot of people have experienced this problem and the
cause(es) have not been determined. At this point I am willing to try
anything and the suggestion didn't seem unreasonable.
***********************

"....I say chuck the whole damn works and switch to the Ted Pella "Grid
Stick" kit to do your uranium and lead staining...."

We have tried Pella's Grid Stick. However that procedure washes the sections
off of our grids. Our type of work necessitates the use of large sections
and 200 mesh "Super Grids" (grids with very thin grid bars). The use of
these grids results in much reduced area of contact between grid and
section, and the sections just do not adhere to the grids well. Now, if you
have any suggestions as to how we can get the sections to stick to the grids
better, I would appreciate them very much. Then perhaps we could institute a
more vigerous wash.
***********************

"....For lead, I use the Sato triple lead stain, not straight Reynold's lead
citrate...."

I do know of the Sato tripple lead stain, but would appreciate the
reference, if you have it handy. We have tried both the Reynold's recipe as
well as the recipe from Dr. Chandler Fulton. I don't have that reference.
However nothing could be simpler. To 10 ml of decarbonated, distilled water
you just add 0.02 gm lead citrate powder (EMS cat no. 17800), followed by
0.1 ml of 10N NaOH. This stain worked very well for me throughout my
graduate school experience.


Joiner Cartwright, Jr., Ph.D.

Director, Electron Microscopy tel.: (713)798-4658
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From: Bob Citron :      Bob_Citron-at-cc.chiron.com
Date: 2/9/96 8:07 PM
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I'd like some input, opinions etc. on the pitfalls of having multiple
operators on an SEM. My situation is that I am part of a materials
analysis group that provides analytical services to corporate
technology. Our group consists of a number of engineers and technicians
with expertise in a variety of analytical areas. Our company has
recently hired a young PhD to do materials research in another department .
He is pushing very hard to be allowed to use our SEM at night and on weekends.
He has 'used
an SEM before' and doesn't see a problem in using ours. It has always
been our practice to encourage researchers to come into the lab while
their samples are being analyzed, but not to allow individuals to use the
instrument themselves. I believe that the analysis is done more effectively
by individuals whose expertise is in that area. However, management
appears to be leaning towards changing the rules for this individual, and
having me train him on the instrument.

We have a four year old JEOL 6400 instrument with a Link eXL analyzer,
UTW detector, complete stage automation. We also have a computer system
attached for collecting digital images, we do not use polaroid film.
While this individual has used and SEM he has not used either a JEOL or
LINK system before. I feel that training would be extensive. This is currently
the only SEM we have. It
is used approximately 12 hours per day by myself and my staff. Quite
often EDS analysis is carried out using computer control and stage
automation overnight. However, management feels that if someone is
willing to utilize the instrument in those few hours a week when it is
not being used, they need to take advantage of that to receive a maximum
benefit from the asset.

Several years ago we had two older SEMS and due to 'corporate
downsizing', we had only one operator. At them time I trained
approximately 2 dozen engineers who desired to use the 'extra' SEM on
their own. We disposed of the instrument about a year ago when it had
not been touched for almost a year. The time I spent in training
all of those individuals was probably greater than the time they as
a group spent using the instrument. Hindsight being perfect I wish we had
kept the old instrument!

Anyway, I would appreciate any input both pro and con from the list
regarding opening up an instrument to multiple infrequent users.





From: cgarri-at-mastnet.net (Craig Garrison)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:21:13 -0600
Subject: Multiple SEM Users

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A different perspective:

In a commercial organization, an instrument is a resource for all. The
question can not be is a person allowed to use a resource because they
are or are not a member of a particular work group. The question must
be how do we maximize productivity. Working within this framework, here
are two observations to balance:

It is typically counter-productive to have relatively inexperienced users
operate instruments which are either finicky or complex.

It is typically counter-productive to have expert users repeatedly perform
a relatively simple analysis.

Now for the reduction to practice. We have trained researchers from a
variety of groups to use our microscopes, OM, SEM, and TEM. This has
included training an inexperienced researcher on a FEG-SEM. We have never
had a mishap which cost us more than a few hours of instrument time. The
OM and SEM training has benefited productivity. However, TEM training has
been another story. Inexperienced researchers were repeatedly retrained,
resulting in an inefficient use of expert personnel.

Good luck to all,

Craig Garrison
The Dow Chemical Company
Bldg. B-1225
2301 N. Brazosport Blvd.
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From: petford-at-vax.ox.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 09:23:25 +0000
Subject: TEM postdoc position

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I am looking for a postdoctoral researcher to fill the following post. Please
could any interested parties contact me directly.

Thankyou, Amanda Petford-Long.

*************************************************************
Advertisement for postdoctoral research post in the Department of
Materials, University of Oxford, UK funded by Hewlett-Packard.

A post is available, in the first instance for 1 year, to study layered films
for magnetoresistive read head applications. This will form part of an ongoing
collaboration with Hewlett-Packard Laboratories in Palo Alto, involving both
experimentalists and modellers within the Department of Materials.

The research will involve the characterisation of the microstructure and
magnetic domain structure, by electron optical techniques, of films grown at
HPL by sputter deposition. The films under investigation will be spin-valve
structures, and the interest lies in the role of microstructure on giant
magnetoresistance and magnetic properties. The microstructure of the films will
be analysed using high resolution electron microscopy, and we have already had
some considerable success in quantifying the nature of the interfaces between
the layers in the spin valve using imaging processing techniques on HREM
images, and would hope that this work could be continued. The magnetic domain
structure of the films will be studied using our extensive Lorentz transmission
electron microscopy facilities. These include facilities for in situ
magnetising and heating, and also for the collection of quantitat- ive
magnetisation maps. Some experience in electron microscopy (preferably HREM) is
therefore essential.

The post is fully funded by HPL on a rolling grant basis, so that further
funding after the 1 year period is extremely likely but cannot be guaranteed at
this time.

The post is available from 1st July 1996 and will be on the University salary
scale GBP14,317 - 21,511 p.a.

Interested applicants should submit their applications, including a curriculum
vitae and the names and addresses of two referees to the Administrator,
Department of Materials, Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3PH, UK. Please quote ref.
AKPL. The University is an Equal Opportunities employer.

For informal queries please contact Dr Amanda Petford-Long in the Department of
Materials. e-mail address: amanda.petford-long-at-materials.ox.ac.uk




From: nano-at-ns1.LIHTI.ORG (Nanoprobes Inc.)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 07:34:05 -0500
Subject: Re: antibody to thyrotropin-releasing hormone

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Dear Dr. Polyakov:

Polyclonal antibodies to thyrotropin-releasing hormone are sold by:

AMERICAN RESEARCH PRODUCTS
489 Common Street
Belmont, MA 02178

Tel: (800) 832-2611, (617) 489-1120
Fax: (617) 489-5120

(Probably the best since it supplies them as IgG rather than serum).

A number of companies supply this antibody as serum, including

ACCURATE CHEMICAL AND SCIENTIFIC CO.
300 Shames Drive,
Westbury, NY 11590.

Tel: (800) 645-6264, (516) 333-2221, (619) 235-9400 (West Coast)
Fax: (516) 997-4948

(They also supply antibody to the free acid).

Others you might try:Arnel Products Company (Tel. 212-620-4622), Biogenesis
Ltd. (Tel. 603-887-4600, Email biogenesis-at-ltd.co.uk), Chemicon
International (Tel. 800-437-7500), Eurodiagnostics Lab (Sweden, fax
46-409231000), Cappel-Organon Technica (Tel. 800-523-7620) and UCB
Bioproducts (carried by Accurate Chemical and Scientific Corp, see above).

All these were raised in rabbit, so they should work on rat brain, although
I havn't tried any.


This is from the 1996 Lindscott's Directory of Immunological and Biological
reagents (Order from Lindscott's Directory, 4877 Grange Road, Santa Rosa,
CA 95404; phone (707) 544-9555, Fax (415) 389-6025), one of the best places
to start looking for this kind of information.

Richard D. Powell
*************************************************************
NANOPROBES, Incorporated
25 East Loop Road, Suite 124, Stony Brook, NY 11790-3350, USA
http://www.lihti.org/research/ecodev/incubten/nano/home.html






From: RMacKay :      RMACKAY-at-AC.DAL.CA
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 10:06:14 +0000
Subject: Multiple Users

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RE: Multiple Users

Dear Bonnie,

We have operated a JEOL 733 electron microprobe ( presently with
a Link eXL system ) for the past 11 years, and prior to that a
Mark V. Our policy has always been to allow multiple users including
graduate and undergraduate students. In 25 years we have had only
one bad experience.

Best Regards,

Bob MacKay
Robert MacKay
Department of Earth Sciences
Dalhousie University
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
B3H 3J5
Tel: 902 494-7087
e-mail rmackay-at-ac.dal.ca




From: Marilee.Sellers-at-nau.edu
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 09:45:31 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: Embedding problems

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} Marilee, A microwave protocol is especially well suited for your work. I
} recommend checking the recent article by Giberson RT, Demaree RS, Jr.
Microwave
} fixation: understanding the variables to achieve rapid reproducible results.
} Microsc Res Tech 1995;32: 246-54.
}
} Gary R. Login, Beth Israel Hospital, Pathology
} 617-667-2034; glogin-at-bih.harvard.edu

Gary, This is one alternative I hadn't even considered. Thank-you. I do
not have a research microwave. But will see if ours would do. Marilee

Marilee Sellers
Manager, Electron Microscope Facility
Northern Arizona University
Flagstaff, AZ 86011
E-mail marilee.sellers-at-nau.edu





From: ldm2-at-apollo.numis.nwu.edu (L.D.Marks)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 12:24:53 -0600
Subject: Ion Beam Damage

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I have a question which maybe someone can answer. Assuming
constant angle during ion-beam thinning, which of these two leads to
less nett damage (point defects etc) within a sample, assuming that
both remove the same amount of material:
a) A longer time at low energy
b) A shorter time at higher energy
?




From: ln-at-noesisvision.com (Luc Nocente)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 12:45:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Image PRocessing Software

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You can also try Visilog from Noesis Vision Inc. It provides the widest
selection of algorithms on the market along with an easy to use GUI and
macro language. We are soon coming out with a 32 bit version on both Unix
and Windows NT. You can contact me for more information.
Luc Nocente Tel: 514 345 1400
Noesis Vision Inc. Fax: 514 345 1575
e-mail: ln-at-noesisvision.com http://www.cam.org/~noesis
6800 Cote de Liesse, Suite 200
St-Laurent, PQ
H4T 2A7,Canada





From: Marilee.Sellers-at-nau.edu
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 09:40:43 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Embedding Problems

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} Marilee,
}
} A year or so ago, we were working on a similar sounding project looking
} at mycorrhizal associations in pine roots (different pine). We were
} interested mainly in the composition of some inclusions but prepared material
} for general morphology too. We used a "standard glut/Fa" primary fix and an Os
} tet secondary followed by acetone dehydration and embedment in Spurr'Us or
} our own variant thereof (VCD and Quetol). We had no problem with infiltration
} or sectioning.
}
} Here's my twenty questions:
}
} 1. Do you use vacuum during fixation? I generally bounce the tissue
} during primary fixation by cycling the vacuum until the tissue stays
} submerged up to the boiling pressure of the fixative.

We have not used vacuum during fixation. Most of the time the tissue did
not float until after the Abs. Etoh. We shall include this.

} 2. Did you try to embed any of the floating material? I generally don't
} try to embed "floaters". My thinking is that if they have enough air in them
} to float after Os tet density increase, they've got too much air for good
} transfer of any thing into or out of the tissue.

We did embed some floaters. And they were poorly infiltrated.

} 3. When do you notice the problem in infiltration? i.e. during
} sectioning, or after observation. I've had occasional problems with LR white
} bonding to cell walls. Usually we can get enough to hold still for a picture
} if we carbon coat them after labeling and staining and before viewing. The
} stuff is supposed to be able to handle some water as an impurity, but I'm not
} sure I believe it.
} 4. What kind of knife do you use? I used glass since our root samples came
} from the real world and had entrained some sand as well as air. If yours don't
} have anything hard in them (or you'Uve got lots of money;-)) might use a
} diamond if youUre ot now. I cut a lot of hydroponically grown roots for class
} and generally get O.K. sections in regular resin with my diamond knife. Even
} they hydroponically grown tips have considerable exhaustible air in them.

We notice the problems immediately upon sectioning. These root tips are
from sandy soil, and the tips are cleaned as much as possible before
processing. As a precaution, we use glass knives to cut them.

} John Heckman
} TEM supervisor
} Center for Electron Optics
} Michigan State UniversityMarilee,
}
} heckman-at-pilot.msu.edu

Thank-you John. We will be incorporating your suggestions.
Marilee
Marilee Sellers
Manager, Electron Microscope Facility
Northern Arizona University
Flagstaff, AZ 86011
E-mail marilee.sellers-at-nau.edu





From: Bruce Cutler :      BCutler-at-eureka.chem.ukans.edu
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 16:06:17 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Multiple users

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View From A University Central Service Microscopy Lab

As the Director (and only employee) in a lab with a TEM, SEM,
confocal, imaging equipment, photographic darkroom, and the
usual ancillary equipment, and no service contracts, I could not
function if I had to do everything for users.
Ninety percent plus of my users operate the equipment
themselves. However, less than 5 users are 100% qualified to operate
the EM's when I am not present. I insert and remove specimens, and
for the TEM, process the negatives. Obviously, users undergo training,
and during training one can pick up cues as to the user's future
behavior. Our equipment is very user friendly, and that makes a big
difference.
Obviously in industry where down time is unacceptable, this approach
would not work.
Bruce Cutler, Microscopy Lab, Univ. Kansas, Lawrence







From: images1-at-biosci.mbp.missouri.edu (Michael Stanley)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 16:28:51 -0600
Subject: calcium on suspension cells

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Hello All,

We have a couple of users who want to look at calcium and/or pH changes on
suspension cells (culture cells). Does anyone know of specific tricks for
trying to stabilize single/suspension cells in a perfusion chamber. We
would like to follow a single/small group of cells throughout treatment
with different agents. We have tried both charged and coated coverslips
(silane and gelatin) without sucess. Any and all help would be greatly
appreciated.

TIA,

C. Michael Stanley, Ph.D.
Coordinator, Associate Director
Molecular Cytology Core Facility
Molecular Biology Program
2 Tucker Hall
University of Missouri-Columbia
Columbia, MO. 65211
(314) 882-4895
fax= 314-882-0123






From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 16:56:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Database Posting

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} The silicon 'dead layer' in a detector is a mathematical concept to
} describe a region in the detector of reduced sensitivity to the incoming
} x-rays (the Glasgow people coined a term for this which now eludes me).
} The 'dead layer' varies with the detector bias, and cannot be measured
} directly - it is possible only to deduce it from experiments fitting
} measured bremsstrahlung shapes to theoretical predictions.

Dear Tony,
The dead layer of a Si detector can, indeed, be measured experi-
mentally--at least in principle. Using an alpha source, measure the
energies when the alphas are incident on the detector both normal to
its face and at another angle for which the alphas still penetrate the
dead layer. From these measurements the thickness of the dead layer
(plus the gold) can be determined--at a number of bias voltages if
desired. Personally, I'd never subject my detector to this measure-
ment, but it is possible. We used to do this all the time for detec-
tors when I was in grad school.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




From: MelanieOwl-at-aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 22:49:26 -0500
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This is an interesting problem. I have had to train other users to use my
SEM, but have always found it to be a waste, since they didn't use it enough
to remember the training. I had to go over things each time they wanted to
use it.

However, if you are forced to let this person use the SEM, here are some
guidelines.
Mark the saturation point clearly, and make it a rule to not go past that
mark.
Have a log book handy for the part time user to record any 'unusual'
occurences in operation, or to write questions down.
Have an emergency number to call for help. (I know this is a pain for you,
but could save on instrument downtime and repair costs.)

That's all I could think of right now, but I hope it helps.

Regards,
Melanie Behrens
Senior Chemist
Texaco, Inc.
Beacon, NY
behrema -at- Texaco.com




From: Brett W. Cockman :      bcockman-at-uniwa.uwa.edu.au
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 13:50:12 +0700 (WAST)
Subject: Fax No. needed

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Hello all,
I need to obtain the address and fax number of 'Triarch Slides' in Wisconsin, USA if
they are still in business.
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards,

Brett Cockman



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From: CHAFFEYN :      NIGEL.CHAFFEY-at-bbsrc.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 10:27:45 +0000
Subject: toluidine blue-quenching: a thank you

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Dear All,

Many thanks to all those who responded to my query re mode of action of
toluidine blue in quenching autofluorescence, particularly Bill Tivol and
Bridget Southwell who gave an answer that I can trot out if ever asked again!
In response to those who requested further details of the way I use
tol. blue: it is applied as a 0.01% (w/v) solution made up in
phosphate-buffered saline (pH nominally 7.3 - 7.6) to the sections (I routinely
use 6 um thick methacrylate-embedded Aesculus hippocastanum root sections).
Leave the stain to impart a 'light-blue' colour to the sections, ie, let them
'just stain', that takes about 90 sec with my tissue. Sections then mounted in
anti-fade mountant and viewed - stored if necessary in a fridge (at c. 4 C).
[Sections having been processed for visualisation of tubulin using FITC-linked
secondary antibody, and usually stained with DAPI prior to tol. blue-quenching]
"It works for me"...
I do not know if tol. blue itself fluoresces under some excitation
wavelengths, but it does reduce some of the background/native autofluorescence
present in my tissue (for Sally Stowe).
The reference I have used for this procedure is Baluska, F, Parker,
JS, Barlow, PW, 1992. Specific patterns of cortical and endoplasmic
microtubules associated with cell growth and tissue differentiation in roots of
maize (Zea mays L.). J. Cell Sci. 103, 191-200. Of course, if anybody can
provide an earlier (more definitive?) reference to its first use, I would be
grateful.
Hope the above is useful,

With best regards,

Nigel Chaffey [eMail: nigel.chaffey&bbsrc.ac.uk]




From: Stanley L Flegler :      flegler-at-pilot.msu.edu
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 09:55:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: LM needed

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I'm posting this request for a friend that needs to buy a light microscope. He
specifically is looking for a microscope with a large stage that will allow a
long working distance for using a micromanipulator. Does anyone have a used
microscope that they want to sell? Also, does anyone know the address or
telephone number of equipment brokers that might have light microscopes? If
so, please respond to Irv Widders, Michigan State University, E-mail
22457iew-at-msu.edu




From: Ciara Mullan :      mullanc-at-mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 09:53:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Ion Beam Damage

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I have found that (a), a longer time at low energy, is
better for my samples- III-V semiconductors.

Ciara

On Tue, 13 Feb 1996, L.D.Marks wrote:

} I have a question which maybe someone can answer. Assuming
} constant angle during ion-beam thinning, which of these two leads to
} less nett damage (point defects etc) within a sample, assuming that
} both remove the same amount of material:
} a) A longer time at low energy
} b) A shorter time at higher energy
} ?
}




From: george.braybrook-at-ualberta.ca (George Braybrook)
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 08:21:24 -0700
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Hi Bonnie,
One point that everyone seems to have missed on this subject of
multiple users is output quality. There is no substitute for the skill
gained with experience.
We tried running two SEM's in our lab, and found the overall
quality of the images produced by our "trained" multiple users was not as
good as the images produced by an experienced technician.

Cheers
:)
George
Department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences
University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta T6G 2E3
Canada
ph: 403-492-5746
fax: 403-492-2030






From: cvierret-at-misn.com
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 08:23:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Multi-User for SEM etc.

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There has been alot of comments on the matter of multi-user of and SEM. I
have been on both sides of that fence. I operated and SEM for years at the
Bureau of Mines until I took a research position. With my position I had the
need for SEM work. This I was able to do most by myself. I am now with a
company that does not have an SEM so I have to use the one at the university.
While I was the operator I was very choosey about who could use it. Only a
hand full of people asked to use it and when I started the training they
decided it was to much to remember and that I should do it because they did
not have the time to do it correctly. Now that I use someoneelses I am very
carful to follow all the instructions, I want to be able to come back. I also
felt very uncomfortable the first few times I was left alone with this
instrument, now I am familiar with it and use it much more. I guess what I am
trying to say is some people have no idea about an instrument and are hot shot
scientist, newly graduated PhD's and others. These are people to be aware of.
Multi-users are okay depending on the type of business you are in and the
personnal. I thought an opion from the other side should be expressesd.

Clarissa Vierrether
Analytical Development Chemist
The Doe Run Company
P.O. Box 500
Viburnum, MO 65566
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From: JOY-at-UTKVX.UTCC.UTK.EDU (DAVID JOY)
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 10:08:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Dead Layers in EDS detectors

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As Tony Garratt-Reed pointed out the 'dead layer' in an EDS detector is an
unfortunately chosen name. As first shown by Goulding (Nucl.Instrum. and Methods
142, 213, 1977) the 'dead layer' is simply the region over which drift anf
diffusion approximately cancel each other. The behavior of this region is
crucial when good resolution at low energy ( {2keV) is required. The MAS
Fiori Memorial volume "Xray Microanalysis in Electron Beam Instruments"
published by PLENUM contains two papers which discuss this in detail, and
also contain a bibliography of relevant references - one

Joy DC, "Modeling the Energy Dispersive X-ray detector", in "Xray
Spectrometry in Electron Beam Instruments", ed D B Williams, J I Goldstein
and D E Newbury, (Plenum Press:New York), 53-64, (1995)

which discusses a Monte Carlo simulation of this type of effect, and a second by
Jon McCarthy of NORAN which examines the practical implications of 'dead
layer' behavior. The dead layer can be estimated in several quite convenient
ways, including spectral measurements, matching to simulation ot, best of
all, by an electron beam measurement described in

Joy D C, "The EDS Detector - A Quantitative Model", Rev. Sci. Instrum. 56,
p1772-1779, 1985


As an interesting aside note that the dead layer in silicon at room
temperature is only 700 angstroms or so compared to 2800 A or more at
liquid nitrogen
temperatures

David Joy EM Facility, University of Tennessee





From: ychen-at-MACC.WISC.EDU
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 12:57:39 -0600
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} I'd like some input, opinions etc. on the pitfalls of having multiple
} operators on an SEM.

Bonnie,

The Integrated Microscopy Resource (IMR) is an NIH biomedical research
technology resource. We have a Hitachi S-900 FESEM with cryo-capability and
a YAG backscatter detector. As one of the few microscopy facilities open
for biologists, the novel instruments at the IMR are made available to
users world wide for biomedical research projects. Our user base consists
of senior investigators, post-docs, and graduate students.

As an NIH resource, the use of instruments is reserved for medical research
projects that require the specialized aspects of the available instruments.
Our SEM usage policy consists of three levels of approval: basic use,
backscatter detector use, and cryo-stage use. I provide user training and
supervise the use of the SEM for the first 20 hours. After this time,
approved users may be upgraded to unsupervised users who are permitted to
work independently after hours. Facility keys (either short or long term)
are available for unsupervised users. For this system to work it is
critical to give each user comprehensive instructions on use of the
equipment, to establish clear rules with regard to general use of the
facility, and most importantly to have an individual with the authority to
monitor and enforce these rules.

Our open use policy has been in place for 9 years with the SEM and 25 years
at our facility. Project approval and user training prior to equipment
usage has resulted in much success and very few problems. When problems
have arisen the solution has been for me to re-train the user and continue
to supervise them for longer time.

Hope this information answers your question.




Ya Chen

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IMR WWW Home Page: http://www.bocklabs.wisc.edu/imr/imr.html
IMR Symposium on integrated microscopy '96: Sept. 20-22, 1996
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From: bozzola-at-siu.edu (John. J. Bozzola)
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 17:48:30 -0600
Subject: EM: Calicivirus info

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Anyone have any good references re: Calicivirus? Especially interested in
classical virilogical studies (morphology, chemical characterization,
pathology, vectors, control measures) and current press releases on the
"epidemic" in Australia. Many thanks.


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From: Mark Wall :      Mark.Wall-at-quickmail.llnl.gov
Date: 14 Feb 1996 16:13:18 -0800
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Is it ok to post a call for papers/abstracts/exhibits on this microscopy
listing?

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From: Brett W. Cockman :      bcockman-at-uniwa.uwa.edu.au
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 09:28:10 +0700 (WAST)
Subject: Re: Triarch contact details

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Hello all,
Thank you to all who contributed info on Triarch. If anybody knows of other
competitively priced prepared slide manufacturers I would appreciate their
contact details also.
Regards,

Brett Cockman




From: Greg :      greg-at-umic.umic.sunysb.edu
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 17:18:10 EST5DST
Subject: Digitizing SEM images

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Hi Everyone,
I have a JEOL 5300 SEM to which a beam controlled image
acquistion system has been added. Images are acquired at
640x512 by frame averaging. It takes 1min 20sec. to
collect five frames. This is about the same time it takes
to do a Polaroid.
Here is the problem. At magnifications above 5000x the
images are fuzzy due to some kind of drift. At lower mags
the drift is not noticeable. Polaroids do not show the
drift. The drift rate is 100-500u per five minutes. I
have the SEM manufarturer working on this too. So far I
have not gotten acceptable results
Now for the questions. Has anyone had this problem on
other image acquisition systems? Am I trying to do
something that can't be done due to drift that all SEMs
have to some degree?
Thanks for your answers in advance.

Gregory Rudomen
Greg-at-umic.umic.sunysb.edu
University Microscopy Imaging Center
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From: caron-at-lisa.polymtl.ca (Mario Caron)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 23:25:47 -0500
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I am looking for good references whose discuss about the experimental setup
(hardware, specimen preparation, experimental conditions, bias etc.) for
voltage contrast and EBIC experiments.
I am particularly involved in the fabrication of III-V high-speed devices
for signal capture (CCD and Sample&Hold).

Mario


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From: James S MArtin :      James.S.Martin-at-williams.edu (by way of zaluzec-at-Microscopy.Com (Nestor J. Zaluzec))
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Thank you to all who provided information on SEM-EDS services in and
around western Massachusetts.

James Martin







From: K. M. Anisur Rahman :      anis-at-execpc.com (by way of zaluzec-at-Microscopy.Com (Nestor J. Zaluzec))
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 23:25:29 -0600
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Hi,
Can anybody let me know if SnO2 and Sb2O5 would dissolve in
Acetone at about 100=B0C? Many thanks,

-Anis.







From: Joiner Cartwright, Jr., Ph.D. :      joiner-at-bcm.tmc.edu (by way of zaluzec-at-Microscopy.Com (Nestor J. Zaluzec))
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At 10:17 AM 2/8/96 EST, you wrote:

".....to form yellow, iridescent hexagonal prisms of lead iodide....."

I stained one grid with our lead stain alone, and another with our uranyl
acetate stain alone. The lead stained grid had the hexagonal deposits and
the other did not. So it's not the uranyl acetate. It's interesting that
lead iodide forms hexagonal crystals.
*******************

".....Perhaps these are your crystals - a bit of a long shot since you did
not mention iodine in our elemental analysis of the crystals...."

No, there is no iodine in either of our stains, or any of the sample
preparation steps; and I did not get an iodine peak with the microprobe.
*******************


I have borrowed an anti static gun like the Zerostatic Eliminator that you
suggest. We are in the process of trying it out. At least the grids don't
jump up and cling to the lid of the plastic petri dish any more.


* * Joiner Cartwright, Jr. * *








From: Bonnie Davis - Kennametal Inc. :      bld_kmt-at-prlc.org (by way of zaluzec-at-Microscopy.Com (Nestor J. Zaluzec))
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 23:26:11 -0600
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I'd like some input, opinions etc. on the pitfalls of having multiple
operators on an SEM. My situation is that I am part of a materials
analysis group that provides analytical services to corporate
technology. Our group consists of a number of engineers and technicians
with expertise in a variety of analytical areas. Our company has
recently hired a young PhD to do materials research in another department .
He is pushing very hard to be allowed to use our SEM at night and on
weekends. He has 'used
an SEM before' and doesn't see a problem in using ours. It has always
been our practice to encourage researchers to come into the lab while
their samples are being analyzed, but not to allow individuals to use the
instrument themselves. I believe that the analysis is done more effectively
by individuals whose expertise is in that area. However, management
appears to be leaning towards changing the rules for this individual, and
having me train him on the instrument.

We have a four year old JEOL 6400 instrument with a Link eXL analyzer,
UTW detector, complete stage automation. We also have a computer system
attached for collecting digital images, we do not use polaroid film.
While this individual has used and SEM he has not used either a JEOL or
LINK system before. I feel that training would be extensive. This is
currently the only SEM we have. It
is used approximately 12 hours per day by myself and my staff. Quite
often EDS analysis is carried out using computer control and stage
automation overnight. However, management feels that if someone is
willing to utilize the instrument in those few hours a week when it is
not being used, they need to take advantage of that to receive a maximum
benefit from the asset.

Several years ago we had two older SEMS and due to 'corporate
downsizing', we had only one operator. At them time I trained
approximately 2 dozen engineers who desired to use the 'extra' SEM on
their own. We disposed of the instrument about a year ago when it had
not been touched for almost a year. The time I spent in training
all of those individuals was probably greater than the time they as
a group spent using the instrument. Hindsight being perfect I wish we had
kept the old instrument!

Anyway, I would appreciate any input both pro and con from the list
regarding opening up an instrument to multiple infrequent users.







From: gwe-at-biotech.ufl.edu (Greg Erdos) (by way of zaluzec-at-Microscopy.Com (Nestor J. Zaluzec))
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} } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } } }

These things help a great deal when using a glass knife. We use lecithin in
the epoxy accelerator . ( use eual weight of lecithin and accelerator, then
double the volume for use) A glass knife will last a long time if you
have it in the resin. It was a great help to students just learning to
section, They could get usable stuff the first day at the microtome. It
can give a blotchy look to empty resin areas or those that have little
density, but most tissues are "busy " enough that you never notice it. See
Mollenhauer , 1986, J. EM Tech 3:217-222
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Greg Erdos Phone: 352-392-1295
Scientific Director,
ICBR Electron Microscopy Core Lab
218 Carr Hall Fax: 352-846-0251
University of Florida E-mail: gwe-at-biotech.ufl.edu
Gainesville, FL 32611
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From: mager-at-unixg.ubc.ca (Mary Mager) (by way of zaluzec-at-Microscopy.Com (Nestor J. Zaluzec))
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 23:26:34 -0600
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} I'd like some input, opinions etc. on the pitfalls of having multiple
} operators on an SEM.

Dear Bonnie,
I run a Materials Engineering EM lab at the University of British
Columbia, with two SEMs and a TEM. Most of the researchers who use the
instruments are graduate students and Research Engineers. I have always
encouraged these people to do their own research on the SEMs, as much as
possible, since only they know exactly what they want and that way one me
can keep three instruments optimally used. After I show them how to use the
SEM, I watch and encourage them to ask me for further instruction for
picture taking, higher mag, etc. Some people, who have a lot of work to do,
may gain my permission to use the SEM after hours, but only after I feel
they have gained a lot of experience during working hours, when I am there
to supervise, and only after I have instructed them on how to properly shut
down and what to do in the event of problems. I also purchased the
instruments originally with ease-of-use in mind. They are fully automatic
and easy to get good results on.
I must feel that the person has a good understanding of the important
issues and knows how to properly handle the instrument. Mind you, I don't
have a field emission SEM. I have had damage, but only once in 15 years and
it could have happened in normal hours.. It also helps to scare them, be
"the ogre of the EM lab". Mind you, we are a teaching lab, so the learning
is as important as the doing.
I know many EM operators do not like the idea of letting any ham-fisted
graduate student or engineer loose on their instrument, but modern SEMs
really can be operated by any intelligent being.
So long as you satisfy yourself as to this person's knowledge,
experience and caring, I'd see no harm.
Hope this helps.

Regards,
Mary

Mary Mager
Electron Microscopist
Metals and Materials Eng, UBC
309 - 6350 Stores Rd.
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4
CANADA
tel: 604-822-5648, fax: 604-822-3619
email: mager-at-unixg.ubc.ca









From: Glenn Poirier :      glennp-at-eps.mcgill.ca (by way of zaluzec-at-Microscopy.Com (Nestor J. Zaluzec))
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 23:26:53 -0600
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Hello Everyone,
I'd just like to put in my two cents on the subject of multiple users of
an SEM (or in my case an electron microprobe)

Our instrument is used at least 16 hours a day and since I'm only paid
for eight almost all our users are trained to use the machine
independantly. This allows them faster access to the machine and saves them
or their advisors money. The only people we don't encourage to become
independant users are those who will only use the machine once or twice.
Most users require 3-4 daytime shifts before i will let them use the
machine independantly (I give them my home phone number too).

In the six years I've been running the lab I can't recall one incident
where the machine has actually been damaged by inexperienced users. On
several occasions it has been temporarily put out of commission (computer
problems, etc) but usually I can get it back on line immediately the next
day. Although there is the potential for a user to damage the instrument
(i.e during a sample change) most of the rest of the instrument is fairly
fool proof. It is easy to screw up your analyses, but difficult to hurt
the machine.

I'm sure the machine would last longer and require less service if I was
the only one operating it, but we don't have that option. I also feel
that users are much better off acquiring their own data, they know what
they want and can change their strategy if they find something unexpected

Hope this is useful.

Glenn








From: jbpawley-at-facstaff.wisc.edu (Jim Pawley) (by way of zaluzec-at-Microscopy.Com (Nestor J. Zaluzec))
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 23:27:00 -0600
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Hello all,

I have prototype LVSEM that employs the stage mechanism from a Philips EM
430 TEM. I would like to purchase a cold stage for this instrument if I
can find one (standard Philips rod). Anyone out there about to
"decommission" one?

Jim Pawley

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From: rw9-at-psu.edu (Rosemary A. Walsh) (by way of zaluzec-at-Microscopy.Com (Nestor J. Zaluzec))
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 23:27:06 -0600
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At 1:09 PM 2/9/96 -0500, Bonnie Davis - Kennametal Inc. wrote:
} I'd like some input, opinions etc. on the pitfalls of having multiple
} operators on an SEM. My situation is that I am part of a materials
} analysis group that provides analytical services to corporate
} technology. Our group consists of a number of engineers and technicians
} with expertise in a variety of analytical areas. Our company has
} recently hired a young PhD to do materials research in another department .
} He is pushing very hard to be allowed to use our SEM at night and on weekends.
} He has 'used
} an SEM before' and doesn't see a problem in using ours. It has always
} been our practice to encourage researchers to come into the lab while
} their samples are being analyzed, but not to allow individuals to use the
} instrument themselves. I believe that the analysis is done more effectively
} by individuals whose expertise is in that area. However, management
} appears to be leaning towards changing the rules for this individual, and
} having me train him on the instrument.
}
} We have a four year old JEOL 6400 instrument with a Link eXL analyzer,
} UTW detector, complete stage automation. We also have a computer system
} attached for collecting digital images, we do not use polaroid film.
} While this individual has used and SEM he has not used either a JEOL or
} LINK system before. I feel that training would be extensive. This is
} currently the only SEM we have. It
} is used approximately 12 hours per day by myself and my staff. Quite
} often EDS analysis is carried out using computer control and stage
} automation overnight. However, management feels that if someone is
} willing to utilize the instrument in those few hours a week when it is
} not being used, they need to take advantage of that to receive a maximum
} benefit from the asset.
}
} Several years ago we had two older SEMS and due to 'corporate
} downsizing', we had only one operator. At them time I trained
} approximately 2 dozen engineers who desired to use the 'extra' SEM on
} their own. We disposed of the instrument about a year ago when it had
} not been touched for almost a year. The time I spent in training
} all of those individuals was probably greater than the time they as
} a group spent using the instrument. Hindsight being perfect I wish we had
} kept the old instrument!
}
} Anyway, I would appreciate any input both pro and con from the list
} regarding opening up an instrument to multiple infrequent users.

Bonnie,
Since we encourage use of the JEOL TEM and SEM by trained users, we
run into this situation often. Currently, we require training on our
instruments plus a minimum of 15 hours of daytime use prior to an approval
of use during off hours. The principal investigator (of the grad. student
or postdoc) is also asked to agree to cover costs should any malfunction
necessitate lengthy (costly) alignment procedures. I constructed a form
for this purpose and the signed agreement is kept with the log book at the
scope. This has given me some control over the situation and those users
who agree to our demands are usually competent users. If the SEM uses a
LaB6 or is a FE, I would be more cautious, i.e., demand more daytime use
and obtain written consent to replace the crystal/filament.
One last thing to consider---an estimate of costs incurred by your
unit during the required "daytime" use if your unit does not charge other
units for instrument use.
Regards,
Rosemary Walsh









From: loewe-at-uni-bonn.de (Andreas Loewe)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 02:58:22 -0600
Subject: Re: Ion Beam Damage

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I tried almost every possibility on our Baltec RES010.
I have found that (a), a longer time at low energy with one gun set to a
low angle and one gun to a rather high angle worked best on my ceramic
materials.

Andreas

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Inorganic Material Research
Roemerstr. 164
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Germany http://www.elmi.uni-bonn.de/
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From: James R. Stets :      stetsjr-at-ttown.apci.com
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 07:54:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Drift in Digitized SEM Images

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I'm responding to Greg Rudomen's posting about fuzzy digital images on
his JEOL 5300.

Greg, can you give us some more details on your problem? It sounds like
you are using a slow scan to do your frame averaging since you say it
takes 1 min. 20 sec. to collect five frames.

Are you really seeing drift? Drift will generally be blurred in one
direction; if the images are just not sharp, that may be another problem.

When you say the Polaroids do not show the drift, are these Polaroids of
the analog or the digitized image? If the analog image is okay,
something is happening during digitization.

Another item to check is the power and magnetic field situation in your
lab. If the drift is more noticeable at low accelerating voltages, you
may have a field problem.

Feel free to contact me directly about this. I'm using a JEOL 6300F with
a Vision system, and it's no problem to obtain a clean 100K digital image.

Jim Stets
Air Products and Chemicals, Inc.
Allentown, PA
stetsjr-at-ttown.apci.com

Ye Olde Disclaimer: I speak for myself, not my employer.




From: EmLab :      EMLAB-at-OPUS.MCO.EDU
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 10:42:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: EM: Calicivirus info

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Dear John,

I was once employed at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, Texas in the
Division of Molecular Virology. One proffessor there did many studies on
Calicivirus. Her name is Mary K. Estes. I do not know her email address
but it is avaiable through Baylor's Web page address'. Hope you can obtain
the info you need through her.

Best of Luck,
Ed Calomeni
Medical College of Ohio
Dept. Pathology
Toledo, OH
emlab-at-opus.mco.edu




From: keller-at-boulder.nist.gov (Bob Keller)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 08:42:48 -0700
Subject: Digitizing SEM images

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Regarding the apparent drift problem in Greg Rudomen's images:

We have seen similar effects with a JEOL 6100 interfaced to a Voyager
EDS/image acquisition system. The effect is also noticeable when using the
image capture features of the SEM itself. Slow scans over a minute or two,
whether for a Polaroid or for digitizing, do not show the problem, as the
digitization occurs only once at each beam location and a small drift would
be unnoticeable in terms of seeing a distorted image; however, for
elemental mapping using single scans, with long dwell times resulting in
acquisitions taking hours, the drift/distortion is extremely evident.
Averaging, integrating or other algorithms which entail multiple scans show
the diffuseness very strongly. Most frustrating is that the problem is
sometimes worse during some sessions compared to others, with no obvious
differences in specimens or operating conditions.

This problem was suggested by the SEM manufacturer to be one of charging or
poor grounding in our specimens. Not likely, though, as we were observing
Si and GaAs crystals when the problem was most noticeable in images. The
problems were most notable with these because the magnifications were
considerably higher than other routine work done here. Decreasing the beam
energy to ca. 1-5 keV did not improve the problem, suggesting that charging
plays no role.

The problem is as yet unresolved, but I wanted to add our observations.
For the time being, I acquire images using slow scans only. Maybe it has
something to do with imaging on every third Tuesday of months ending with
the letter "y"...

My opinions only.

Bob Keller
NIST
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From: Warren Straszheim :      wesaia-at-iastate.edu
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:30:40 -0600
Subject: Re: Drifting SEM images

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I got caught with some drift the other day on an E-SEM. The image was
drifting slowly in one direction. I half suspected charging, although the
drift was only in one direction and varying the pressure and cutting back
the beam did not help.

The problem was eventually tracked back to the modeling clay that I had used
to support the irregularly shaped sample. I was not aware that it outgassed
fast enough to change dimensions in the SEM. Now I know better.
----------------------------------------------------
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270 Metals Development, Ames Lab/ISU, Ames IA, 50011
Phone: 515-294-8187 FAX: 515-294-3091
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coal characterization and processing
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From: randy nessler :      rnessler-at-emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 12:33:18 -0600 (CST)
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} I'd like some input, opinions etc. on the pitfalls of having multiple
} operators on an SEM.

Hi all,
I snipped the above lines from Ya Chen's response to Bonnie. As
Nestor posted last week, there have been some difficulties with the
server, and it seems that I have missed some of the posts.
I hold a position at the University of Iowa's Central Microscopy
Research Facility. We are a multi-user resource for microscopy related
techniques. We have two SEMs that we train people to operate. ANYONE can
use our facility, as long as we train them, or/and they prove themselves
competent in the operation of the instrument. At that point, they are
issued keys, and can reserve the instrument to suit their schedule. We have
never had to ask for keys back from an individual, and any problems that
have occured were corrected with additional training.
We do have service contracts on our microscopes, and I can be
fairly handy with a tool box. Knock on wood, we have yet to have a
catastrophic event (one SEM is a field emitter). With the robust design
of modern electron microscopes, I don't anticipate any, either.
For more on the operating philosophy of our lab, as well as
instrumentation available, I suggest you visit our website at
http://www.uiowa.edu/~cemrf/.

Randy Nessler
rnessler-at-emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu








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} I'd like some input, opinions etc. on the pitfalls of having multiple
} operators on an SEM.

Hi all,
I snipped the above lines from Ya Chen's response to Bonnie. As
Nestor posted last week, there have been some difficulties with the
server, and it seems that I have missed some of the posts.
I hold a position at the University of Iowa's Central Microscopy
Research Facility. We are a multi-user resource for microscopy related
techniques. We have two SEMs that we train people to operate. ANYONE can
use our facility, as long as we train them, or/and they prove themselves
competent in the operation of the instrument. At that point, they are
issued keys, and can reserve the instrument to suit their schedule. We have
never had to ask for keys back from an individual, and any problems that
have occured were corrected with additional training.
We do have service contracts on our microscopes, and I can be
fairly handy with a tool box. Knock on wood, we have yet to have a
catastrophic event (one SEM is a field emitter). With the robust design
of modern electron microscopes, I don't anticipate any, either.
For more on the operating philosophy of our lab, as well as
instrumentation available, I suggest you visit our website at
http://www.uiowa.edu/~cemrf/.

Randy Nessler
rnessler-at-emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu








From: Richard W. Fonda :      fonda-at-anvil.nrl.navy.mil
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 12:15:49 -0600
Subject: Postdoctoral Position at NRL

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POSTDOCTORAL POSITION (US citizens only)

The Physical Metallurgy Branch of the Naval Research Laboratory is currently
looking for a postdoctoral researcher to study solid-solid phase
transformations. The ideal candidate would have a strong background in both
transmission electron microscopy and materials science (preferably with a
concentration in physical metallurgy). Current research interests center on the
study of solid-solid phase transformations in conventional and advanced metallic
alloys, ranging from fundamental studies of martensite and precipitate
morphologies in steels to microstructural analysis of low-carbon steel
weldments, advanced shape memory alloys, new beta-titanium alloys, and metallic
thin film and multilayer materials. Please contact either myself
(Fonda-at-anvil.nrl.navy.mil, 202-767-2622) or Dr. George Spanos
(Spanos-at-anvil.nrl.navy.mil, 202-767-5799) for further details about these and
other research programs.


EQUIPMENT
JEOL 200CX, Philips CM30, and Hitachi 9000 TEMs
Isothermal heat treatment facility for the study of rapid phase transformations
in an inert environment
Quenching and deformation dilatometer
Hitachi FEG-SEM
Auger electron spectroscope

PROGRAM
Descriptions of the postdoctoral programs at NRL may be obtained from Lesley
Renfro, Program coordinator, Code 1005.7, Naval Research Laboratory, Washington,
DC, 20375 (Renfro-at-utopia.nrl.navy.mil, 202-767-3865). Dr. Spanos is listed as
research advisor for the NRC program descriptions.

ELIGIBILITY
The postdoctoral programs at NRL are open only to US citizens.

_____________________________________________________________
Richard W. Fonda Naval Research Laboratory
(202) 767-2622 Code 6324
(202) 767-2623 fax Washington DC 20375
_____________________________________________________________





From: Patty Jansma :      plj-at-manduca.neurobio.arizona.edu
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 15:45:14 -0700 (MST)
Subject: mounting media

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Could someone explain the difference between DEPEX and DPX mounting
media or are they used interchangeably?
If you have a fluorescently labelled sample cleared in methyl salicylate,
does anyone have a protocol for mounting in DPX? Do you have go back to
xylene before mounting in DPX or can you go directly to DPX from methyl
salicylate? How long does the DPX taken to harden on a 100 um sample?
Thanks.

Patty Jansma Tel:602-621-6671
plj-at-manduca.neurobio.arizona.edu
Arizona Research Labs Division of Neurobiology
University of Arizona






From: Denis Baskin :      baskindg-at-u.washington.edu
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 15:29:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: meeting announcement

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The following meeting may be of interest to some readers of this listerv.


WORKSHOP

PCR-IN SITU HYBRIDIZATION: =20
What you need to know to make it work

As part of the Histochemical Society Annual Meeting,=20
August 2-3, 1996,=20
Place: Hyatt Regency Hotel, Bethesda, MD

=09Topic: The use of PCR has revolutionized study of low-abundance=20
DNA and RNA molecules and recent advances have made it possible to=20
amplify DNA and cDNA targets in fixed cells and paraffin-embedded tissues=
=20
on slides. The use of these techniques is beginning to have a major=20
impact in both cell biology and diagnostic pathology. The workshop=20
will deal with: =20
=09=A5methodologies to label and detect nucleic acids using=20
non-radioactive primers=20
=09=A5advantages and disadvantages of PCR-ISH, pitfalls, controls,=20
optimal protocols, effects of fixatives, protease digestion, primers,=20
nucleotides, relevant enzymes and related issues. =20
=09=A5planned format includes lectures, question periods and=20
interactive demonstrations of in situ-PCR, PCR-in situ hybridization=20
and reverse transcriptase-in situ PCR. Thermocycling systems appropriate=
=20
for processing selected tissue specimens will be utilized and will=20
generally be available during the workshop. =20
=09=A5A syllabus will be provided for workshop participants.=20

=09Organizer: G. J. Nuovo, SUNY at Stony Brook


A related symposium will be on=20

ENHANCEMENT METHODS FOR IN SITU HYBRIDIZATION=20

=09Topic: Fluorescent in situ hybridization (FISH) techniques have=20
been utilized for the past decade and offer a widely used microscopical=
=20
tool providing high sensitivity and resolution, as well as the ability to=
=20
detect multiple targets. To increase the sensitivity of FISH, indirect=20
amplification by immunological methods has often been the method of=20
choice. This symposium will include the presentation of several novel=20
approaches using the enzymatic deposition of fluorescent reporter=20
molecules to amplify target localization. These methods may offer a new=20
approach to increase both the detection, resolution, and sensitivity of=20
the FISH method.=20
=09Organizer: S.L. Erlandsen
=09Speakers:=20
=09S. L. Erlandsen, University of Minnesota, Introduction.
=09A.K. Raap, Leiden University, Sensitive and high resolution FISH=20
=09B. Schmidt, Carnegie Mellon University, Signal amplification in=20
the detection of single copy DNA + RNA by enzyme catalyzed deposition=20
(CARD) of the novel fluorescent reporter substrate, Cy 3.29-tyramide.
=09V.L. Singer, Molecular Probes, Inc., The ELF alkaline=20
phosphatase substrate provides a bright, photostable, fluorescent signal=20
amplification method for FISH.=20

Another symposium will be on=20

APPLICATIONS OF MOLECULAR TECHNOLOGIES TO DIAGNOSTIC AND INVESTIGATIVE=20
PROBLEMS OF BREAST CANCER.=20

=09Topic: The symposium will include presentations on in situ=20
analysis of control of cell proliferation in breast cancer, molecular=20
markers of apoptosis and their correlation with hormone receptor=20
expression and other histologic prognostic markers and the structure of=20
breast tissue as it related to breast cancer development.=20
=09Organizer: A. M. Gown
=09Speakers:=20
=09H. Wolfe, Tufts University, Molecular markers of apoptosis and=20
their correlation with hormone receptor expression and other histologic=20
prognostic
markers.
=09R. Jensen, Vanderbilt University, BRCA1 gene expression in breast cancer
cells.
=09A.M. Gown, University of Washington, In situ analysis of control=20
of cell proliferation in breast cancer.
=09J.W. Gray, UC San Francisco, Applications of molecular techniques=20
to diagnostic and investigative problems of breast cancer.

POSTERS ON TOPICS RELATED TO THE WORKSHOP AND SYMPOSIA are welcome =20
(abstract deadline: March 15, 1996) and abstracts will be published as=20
Proceedings of the Histochemical Society Meeting in the Journal of=20
Histochemistry and Cytochemistry. .

CONTACT:=20
Inquiries about program matters and requests for registration materials=20
or abstract forms, and hotel accommodations should be sent to: The=20
Histochemical Society, 4 Barlows Landing Rd., Pocasset, MA 02559=20
(Telephone: 508-563-1155; FAX 508-563-1211 or e-mail: lmaser-at-mbl.edu). =20
or inquiries related to the scientific program to: Dr. W.L. Stahl=20
(e-mail: wlstahl-at-u.washington.edu).=20
=20






From: mager-at-unixg.ubc.ca (Mary Mager)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 22:45:50 -0800
Subject: Re: Digitizing SEM images

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Dear Greg,
Can you see the image drift at high mag. in TV-rate? Is this perhaps EM
field ripple? or mechanical vibration? The image acquisition system can
only acquire what the SEM puts out, so this drift will certainly wipe out
the benefits of frame averaging. If it takes so long to acquire a
frame-averaged image, why not just acquire one long frame? I have a
passive system and usually take a 10 sec., 1024X768 single frame, but the
image certainly shows up any drift of the SEM stage. This can always be
traced to the specimen not being secured well enough. Sticky tabs are often
guilty of this. If the SEM doesn't drift, the image is perfect to 50,000X.

One problem I have had in the past is bad vibration problems at 20 minutes
past the hour on class days. This is when classes change and two hundred
undergrad engineers tromp through the halls. People doing critical hi-res,
low kV work know to do it after hours, when the building is quieter and the
elevators aren't running.
Good luck,
Mary

Mary Mager
Electron Microscopist
Metals and Materials Eng, UBC
309 - 6350 Stores Rd.
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4
CANADA
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From: leeman-at-VOEDING.TNO.NL
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 17:08:47 EST
Subject: LM - mounting medium

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Dear microscopists,

I am looking for a mounting medium which can be used for coverslipping
Giemsa stained cells containing latex microspheres. Xylene containing
mounting media cannot been used because of the solubility of the latex
microspheres. On the other hand, water soluble mounting media, like
gelatin/glycerin, destain the Giemsa. The staining is important to me to
clearly locate (for counting) the microspheres within the cell borders.
Counting without coverslip can be done but I prefere using a 40x/1.0
objective (oil).

Does anyone have experience with this problem?

Thanks in advance,

Winfried Leeman




From: Rick Markgraf :      rlmarkgraf-at-ucdavis.edu
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:00:58 -0800
Subject: LM Pooling Teaching Microscopes

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I'm looking for other microscope pools, where teaching microscopes are
shared to maximize usage. I've worked for 20 years at Microscope Services
at the University of California, Davis. We have about 2100 optical
microscopes of high quality, and move 600-700 around every quarter from
classrooms where they aren't needed to those where they are. We also
provide preventive maintenance and repairs, short courses microscopes for
research, recharging for our services.
This arrangement works well at UC Davis, so it must be duplicated at
other schools. I just don't know where. If any of you know of schools with
similar arrangements, would you please post a contact for me? I would very
much like to hear from someone with similar tasks and problems.
Richard L. Markgraf
Microscope Services
University of California, Davis
Ph. (916)752-3477 Fax (916)752-6363
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From: Larry Maser :      lmaser-at-mbl.edu
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 10:51:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Microscopy & Microanalysis '96, Minneapolis, Minnesota

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Microscopy & Microanalysis '96

Joint Annual Meeting of the Microscopy Society of America,
Microbeam Analysis Society and the Microscopical Society of
Canada/Societe de Microscopie du Canada, August 11-15, 1996,
Minneapolis, Minnesota.

Deadline for receipt of Extended Abstracts: March 15, 1996.

Approximately 7,000 Registration Bulletin / Call for Papers
packages have been mailed, most on February 2, to: the
memberships of the three Sponsoring Societies; the memberships of
four Local Affiliates of the Microscopy Society of America
(Northwestern Ohio Microscopy Society, Minnesota Microscopy
Society, Southern California Society for Electron Microscopy -
Technologists, and the Iowa Microscopy Society); individuals who
attended Microscopy & Microanalysis '95, Kansas City; and other
individuals who have requested one.

Please contact our office if you should have received the
Registration Bulletin / Call for Papers but haven't, or if you
would like to. We'll respond to your request immediately.
Please note that the deadline for receipt of Extended Abstracts
is March 15, 1996.

Hope to see you in Minneapolis,

Larry Maser

Microscopy & Microanalysis '96
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From: Warren Straszheim :      wesaia-at-iastate.edu
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 10:28:14 -0600
Subject: Re: MULTIPLE USERS ON THE SEM

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From another university lab:

We too allow users on the scope after training as many in academic settings
appear to do. I routinely query the potential users about the realistic
duration of their work as we have trained some at their insistence only to
find out they have no specific project in mind, or that their actual SEM
usage was not nearly what they first imagined. Of course, since they are
charged for operator assistance, I guess we will continue to train them if
they care to pay for it.

Now a question,
We have adopted the practice of leaving the filament current control on our
JEOL 840A at the proper saturation point (for our normal 15 kv operating
point) and just turning off the high voltage control for exchanging samples.
We have thus avoided problems from inexperienced operators over-saturating.
It appears to be working as our filament lifetimes have increased to the
values for when only experienced users operated the scope. My question to
the list is whether there might be any adverse consequences from this
practice as there do not appear to be any.

----------------------------------------------------
Warren E. Straszheim
270 Metals Development, Ames Lab/ISU, Ames IA, 50011
Phone: 515-294-8187 FAX: 515-294-3091
E-Mail: wes-at-ameslab.gov (or: wesaia-at-iastate.edu)

coal characterization and processing
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From: Phil Elizondo :      PELIZONDO-at-svc.com
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:42:38 PST
Subject: SEM Analysis position: Engineer

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Immediate Opening for SEM Analysis Engineer at SVC:


Principal Duties & Responsibilities:

SEM analysis of display components; basic failure analysis.
Responsible for upkeep of JSM 820, with full JEOL service contract;
Supervision & training of other SEM users.



Special work circumstances:

It is preferred that candidate be able to work either an early (start
-at- 6AM) or late (finish -at- 8PM) shift.



Experience & Education Requirements:

B.S. in Physical Science or Engineering or equivalent.
Minimum 3 yrs. experience in Electron Microscopy.


Company Background:

In just 4 years Silicon Video Corp. has become on of the hottest
start ups in Silicon Valley. We are developing a new class of flat
panel displays - Thin CRT. Millions in funding from the government
have been obtianed. Large corporate partners in industry and
academia connections have been secured. We're searching for highly
qualified candidates to join our team.

Please send resume response to both,

pelizondo-at-svc.com
dcaraway-at-svc.com







From: sfzane-at-unccvm.uncc.edu (Sandra F. Zane)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 14:28:27 -0500
Subject: SEM/stainless steel ball

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Hello All,
A graduate student here has been given the task of looking at the
surface of a highly polished stainless steel ball which is used in hip
replacements. The ball is about 2.5-3 cm in diameter and as you might
imagine, is extremely reflective. Since all I have ever examined in an SEM
are biological samples, I haven't been able to help her very much. This
morning we got what appeared to be a grid image on the surface and I am
wondering if this might not be a reflection of the interior surface of the
specimen chamber. I suggested sputter coating the surface to cut down on
reflection and mounting it on some double stick tape to keep it stable; but
she doesn't think the person who assigned her this task would want that.
Without regard to the wants of the person assigning the task, do any of you
in the materials science have any suggestions which might be helpful to this
young lady. She and I would both be very grateful.
TIA, Sandra Zane
Sandra F. Zane, EM Tech. sfzane-at-unccvm.uncc.edu
Dept of Biol., UNC Charlotte (704) 547-4051
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From: ychen-at-MACC.WISC.EDU
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 10:57:17 -0700
Subject: RE:Digitizing SEM images

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} Hi Everyone,
} I have a JEOL 5300 SEM to which a beam controlled image
} acquisition system has been added. Images are acquired at
} 640x512 by frame averaging. It takes 1min 20sec. to
} collect five frames. This is about the same time it takes
} to do a Polaroid.
} Here is the problem. At magnifications above 5000x the
} images are fuzzy due to some kind of drift. At lower mags
} the drift is not noticeable. Polaroids do not show the
} drift. The drift rate is 100-500u per five minutes. I
} have the SEM manufarturer working on this too. So far I
} have not gotten acceptable results
} Now for the questions. Has anyone had this problem on
} other image acquisition systems? Am I trying to do
} something that can't be done due to drift that all SEMs
} have to some degree?
} Thanks for your answers in advance.
}
} Gregory Rudomen
} Greg-at-umic.umic.sunysb.edu
} University Microscopy Imaging Center
} S.U.N.Y. at Stony Brook
}

Gregory,
There are 3 kinds of averaging techniques used in SEM digitization: frame
averaging, line averaging and pixel averaging. For most of "built-in"
acquisition system, the frame capture is used, so only support frame
averaging. The drawback for using frame averaging is to produce a fuzzy
image as long as drafting exist. Pixel averaging is mostly suitable to
overcome this situation.

Ya Chen


Ya Chen
Cryo/SEM project Coordinator TEL : 608-263-8481
Integrated Microscopy Resource (IMR) FAX : 608-265-4076
University of Wisconsin-Madison Email:YChen-at-macc.wisc.edu
IMR WWW Home Page: http://www.bocklabs.wisc.edu/imr/imr.html
IMR Symposium on integrated microscopy '96: Sept. 20-22, 1996






From: mager-at-unixg.ubc.ca (Mary Mager)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 20:19:25 -0800
Subject: Re: SEM/stainless steel ball

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Dear Sandra,
It is very difficult to look at the surface of any highly-polished metal,
since there is nothing to focus on. However, you cannot get a reflection
image in an SEM except by charge buildup, so if you did get a grid image
from your secondary detector, it implies the ball is not well grounded. If
you stick it down, use conductive sticky-tabs or make a connection useing
silver or carbon dag. One help to focusing is to draw on the top surface
with a felt-tip pen, so you can find the initial focus. My experience
though, is that a good reflextive surface gives you very little to see,
even at high mag.
Good luck,
Mary

Mary Mager
Electron Microscopist
Metals and Materials Eng, UBC
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From: mager-at-unixg.ubc.ca (Mary Mager)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 20:19:57 -0800
Subject: Re: MULTIPLE USERS ON THE SEM

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} Now a question,
} We have adopted the practice of leaving the filament current control on our
} JEOL 840A at the proper saturation point (for our normal 15 kv operating
} point) and just turning off the high voltage control for exchanging samples.
} We have thus avoided problems from inexperienced operators over-saturating.
} It appears to be working as our filament lifetimes have increased to the
} values for when only experienced users operated the scope. My question to
} the list is whether there might be any adverse consequences from this
} practice as there do not appear to be any.
Dear Warren,
We always leave the filament current up to the saturation point (or just
under it for maximum filament life). In fact, to stop little fingers, I
removed the filament current knob from my console years ago. I can change
it with a screwdriver when I need to. I always turn the acc. voltage on and
off and I get at least a month out iof a filament at 20kv. I don't know if
I would do it on my 200kv TEM, but SEM is fine.
Best of luck,
Mary

Mary Mager
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From: zaluzec-at-Microscopy.Com (Nestor J. Zaluzec)
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 10:02:09 -0600
Subject: Low energy vs high energy ion milling

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......Multiple Lines Removed.......

} The maximum energy available to impart to an atom in the bulk is given by the
} expression,
}
} E = E0 * 4* (Mm)/(M+m)^2,
}
} where M is the bulk atom mass, m is the ion mass and E0 is the ion energy.
}
} It seems to me that if you have sufficient energy for removal of ions, that you
} will always exceed the minimum threshold energy for displacent of atoms.

.........
Not true!

The sputtering rate/cross-section at the SURFACE of a material
is not the same as the displacement rate/cross-section in the bulk. The
simple way to
think about this is that a surface you only have ~ 1/2 the number of bonds
that you have in the interior of a bulk. Thus the energy needed to remove a
surface atom is LESS than that needed to remove one from the bulk. There
is extensive literature on this unfortunatley, I don't have the references
readily at hand here at home.

Charlie Bradley and I did work on this at ANL (for case of electron sputtering)
back in the late 80's some of which was published in the (E)MSA proceedings.
There is also an ANL Technical Report which tabulates both sputtering and
displacement cross-sections for the entire periodic table. The computer
programs which do the calculations for this are in the Software Library
which is accessible by anonymous ftp at

ftp.msa.microscopy.com

they are in the path /pub/3-MMSLib/HVEM

look for the files on DMottCS, TotCS, Recoil. Like I said, these programs
were written
for the case of electron sputtering, however, they could be modified for
the ion-beam case, if one were sufficiently interested. At any rate, you will
not displace the atoms in the bulk, but only the surface and near suface atoms.

There is another program called TRIM which is used by the Ion-Beam Analysis
community
to calculate bulk displacements in solids by Ions. I'll dig up the
references and
post them next week when I get back into the lab.

Nestor
Your Friendly Neighborhood SysOp.









From: GVKM07A-at-PRODIGY.COM (DR CHARLES A GARBER)
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 12:59:51 EST
Subject: MultiUsers of EM equipment

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-- [ From: Garber, Charles A. * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

In response to:

} I'd like some input, opinions etc. on the pitfalls of having multiple
} operators on an SEM.

During the years 1963-1967, at what was then Case Institute (now CWRU),
during the conduct of my MS and Ph. D. thesis work, I did with my own
two hands, all of my own TEM work which at times involved in excess of
thirty hours instrument time per week over extended periods of time.
As a lowly (yes, we were definitely made to feel lowly) graduate
student, to this day, I remember how I had to tip-toe around the
manager of the EM facility. All of the graduate students had their own
keys both to the EM lab and also the darkroom, but one snap of the
manager's fingers could have keys snatched away in an instant. And for
the entire four years of my career as a graduate student, I did have my
own keys and for the most part, that part of my thesis work requiring
EM was done between the hours of 6:00 pm to 12:00 midnight (often times
later), and without supervision. Indeed virtually any graduate student
who had need for EM work was issued keys and for the most part, their
work was done during these "off hours" as well.

Indeed, to have the experience of actually being responsible for the
health and well-being of the instrument, and to be held accountable for
it, I always considered an important part of my own graduate
experience and education.

And sitting there, night after night, peering at the green image on the
screen, and experiencing that electrifying feeling that comes only when
seeing something for the first time, something perhaps no one else has
previously seen, was a part of my own life I will never forget. The
challenge of proving first to myself and then to others that what I
thought I had seen was in fact "real" and was not an "artifact" has had
a lasting positive impression on my own life and my own career for that
matter. After all, how else can one learn to be their own worst (best?)
"devil's advocate" if they have not done the work themselves?

How else can one "sell others" on the idea that what they have indeed
seen is real and not some preparation artifact? How many times have I
listed to presentations by one of those arm chair EM people and when
asked a question, could not even tell whether a sample was gold coated
or not! Or with what a TEM sample might have been stained. Not too
long ago I witnessed a speaker not being able to answer whether a
micrograph was by SEM or TEM. Such responses hardly evoke high levels
of confidence in someone else's conclusions.

Yet I can also remember some students who did not have research
projects depending that much on EM, perhaps their use of EM being
confined to closing a few lose ends, and where the inclusion of some EM
work was just a small part of their overall project. Indeed, either
because of less interest in doing it with their own two hands, or
perhaps other reasons, these students had that laboratory manager, the
one who made us jump through hoops, do the work, during daylight hours
with the student peering over his shoulders. On the other hand, there
were those who did have minimal need for EM work, but underwent the
extensive training voluntarily and with enthusiasm as part of their
overall graduate training experience.

I appreciated that lack of bureaucracy that existed in those days, and
the climate was such that the highest levels of curiosity were
encouraged. There is no question that if I was not able to have done
my own work, in the way that I did it, yes, perhaps even late at night
when there were fewer building vibrations and toilets flushing, I
would be a much different person. After all, at 1:00 am, when something
does go wrong, to deal with it, on your own, responsibily, to make
judgemental decisions, with no one else to turn to, is in itself an
important part of the educational process.

And what about down time? Of course there was the normal down time and
probably there was more down time than might have other wise been the
case because there were multiple users. But it was never an excessive
amount of downtime. And these were during the times when instruments
were not engineered like they are today, and if anything, relative to
modern instruments, the amount of downtime experienced should have
inherently been significantly more than would be the case today. But
excessive downtime never happened. Indeed seeing the way some of these
judgemental decisions were handled in those days has been valuable in
the management of my own analytical laboratory services business today.

I have followed the discussion on this listserver. I am really quite
surprised with the bureaucracies that seem to have evolved to somehow
"protect" the equipment from mere ordinary "mortals". What happened to
the ability to use the same kind of good judgment that abounded in the
EM laboratories of thirty years ago? Of course it is always easier to
go by way of a script and never deviate. Go by the book. After all,
no decision making has to be done at all. But something very very
valuable and fundamental is lost when those with the interest are not
able to sit down and take their own data, at their own speed, and on
their own terms.

I can appreciate the concern about minimizing downtime more than most
people, in my case, such costs come right out of my own pocket. It is
a very real concern. However, be it in industry or academia, give a
lot of thought before you shut out that inquisitive researcher who just
might make that big discovery that moves us all forward another notch.
A well managed industrial laboratory should have made provision for
emergency scope access anyhow so even if there was a bit of additional
downtime, surely that can not be thought of as throwing a monkey wrench
into that company's ability to have an instrument available to work on
solving emergency plant problems. If you have an instrument that is
that sensitive to multiple users, perhaps the time has come to look at
insturments made by some other manufacturer.

Chuck

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From: South Bay Technology :      73531.1344-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: 17 Feb 96 13:23:53 EST
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Dear Dr. Peiro-

At South Bay Technology we manufacture a Single Vertical Jet Electropolisher
which can be used for either electrolytic or chemical polishing. It is possible
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From: Paul.Fischione-at-internetmci.com
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 18:18:22 -0500
Subject: Ion Beam Damage

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To: "Sandra F. Zane" {sfzane-at-unccvm.uncc.edu} ,
Microscopy list {microscopy-at-Sparc5.Microscopy.Com}

-- [ From: Paul E. Fischione * EMC.Ver #2.3 ] --

To expand on the ion energy vs. damage discussion, we have found that by
reducing the ion energy, a decrease in ion damage is experienced at a given
angle. During our research effort in developing the Hollow Anode Discharge
(HAD) ion source, we concentrated on achieving a broad range of ion energy
operation. Currently, the HAD source will operate with a minimum voltage
(accelerating) of between 500 and 800 volts and produce ion energies on the
order of a few microamps/square cm. At the maximum energy (6 kV), ion
current is in excess of 400 microamps/sq.cm resulting in very high milling
rates which are preferable when milling at low angles.

As with any preparation procedure, the key is defining the proper
parameters. Having a versatile ion mill that can effectively mill at
low/high angles, low/high voltages, and with liquid nitrogen cooling
affords the required flexibility.

There are some good references in the MRS Specimen Preparation Proceedings.

Regards,

Paul Fischione
E.A. Fischione Instruments, Inc.
9003 Corporate Circle
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From: ldm2-at-apollo.numis.nwu.edu (L.D.Marks)
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 17:55:50 -0600
Subject: Re: MultiUsers of EM equipment

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I would like to express very strong agreement with the sentiments of
Chuck Gabor; certainly within the academic setting protecting microscopes
from students is counterproductive. One thing I will argue is a credit
to our current system here is that we allow undergraduates to have
hands on experience using SEM's and TEM's.
While it is true that there are dangers of breakages, so what! To my
knowledge almost all the "big names" in electron microscopy made stupid
mistakes at one time or another - one example that I know of involved
switching of the vacuum and water lines on a TEM.

Laurie Marks




From: dianavd-at-eye.usyd.edu.au (Diana van Driel)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 11:07:34 +1100
Subject: Re: Email virus...beware

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Read-Receipt-To: Jean-Louis Beek {ah56-at-solo.pipex.co.za}
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} There is a virus being sent about through the email system, it is
} usually sent with the subject (good news....). I received the below mail
} from my brother, who works with ICL. ICL sent the below message to all
} of it's employees.
}
} Please see the attached and take appropriate action.
}
}
} Issued by IT Services
}
}
} COMPUTER VIRUS
}
} There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If
} you receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Good Times," DO
} NOT read the message, DELETE it immediately. Please read the messages
} below.
}
} Some miscreant is sending e-mail under the title "Good Times"
} nationwide. If you get anything like this, DON'T DOWNLOAD THE FILE!
} It has a virus that rewrites your hard drive, obliterating anything
} on it.
}
} Please be careful and forward this mail to anyone you care about.
}
} *************************************************************
}
} WARNING!!!!!!! INTERNET VIRUS
}
} The FCC released a warning last Wednesday concerning a matter of major
} importance to any regular user of the Internet. Apparently a new
} computer virus has been engineered by a user of AMERICA ON LINE that
} is unparalleled in its destructive capability. Other more well-known
} viruses such as "Stoned," "Airwolf" and "Michaelangelo" pale in
} comparison to the prospects of this newest creation by a warped
} mentality. What makes this virus so terrifying, said the FCC, is the
} fact that no program needs to be exchanged for a new computer to be
} infected. It can be spread through the existing e-mail systems of the
} Internet. Once a computer is infected, one of several things can
} happen. If the computer contains a hard drive, that will most likely
} be destroyed. If the program is not stopped, the computer's processor
} will be placed in an nth-complexity infinite binary loop - which can
} severely damage the processor if left running that way too long.
} Unfortunately, most novice computer users will not realize what is
} happening until it is far too late. Luckily, there is one sure means
} of detecting what is now known as the "Good Times" virus. It always
} travels to new computers the same way in a text e-mail message with
} the subject line reading "Good Times." Avoiding infection is easy
} once the file has been received - do not read it! The act of loading
} the file into the mail server's ASCII buffer causes the "Good Times"
} mainline program to initialize and execute.
}
} The program is highly intelligent - it will send copies of itself to
} everyone whose e-mail address is contained in a receive-mail file or a
} sent-mail file, if it can find one. It will then proceed to trash the
} computer it is running on. The bottom line here is - if you receive a
} file with the subject line "Good Times," delete it immediately! Do
} not read it! Rest assured that the name was on the "From" line was
} surely struck by the virus. Warn your friends and local system users
} of this newest threat to the Internet! It could save them a lot of
} time and money.
}
} E N D O F N O T E
}
} --
} Tomaz Pereira Garcez (u01tp-at-abdn.ac.uk) +44 1224 632549

Diana van Driel
Dept Ophthalmology C09
Sydney University 2006
NSW, AUSTRALIA






From: ROBIN CROSS :      EURC-at-giraffe.ru.ac.za
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 08:22:09 GMT+0200
Subject: digitizing SEM images

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From the various symptoms that have been described I think that
Rick Mott's last suggested source of this problem is most likely
to be correct. In conventional scanning the scan is usually
synchronized to the line frequency to minimize distortions
resulting from stray fields. When using an external scan
generator for acquiring digitized images some of the scan
speeds will be asynchronous with the line frequency. If there
are stray fields in the vicinity of the SEM these will then
cause some sort of image distortion on the screen, often showing
as a uniformly jagged appearance of what should be straight
edges. If one then averages a number of such frames it could
lead to what has been described as a fuzzy image.

In order to establish if this is the problem it will be
necessary to test for stray A/C fields around the SEM. These
usually arise from sources such as large power supply cables
running under the floor or in a nearby wall, but as Rick Mott
has suggested, could simply be a problem of bad or wrongly
routed earthing. If one doesn't have access to a proper magnetic
field testing coil an old EM lens coil connected to an
oscilloscope, although not calibrated, nevertheless does very
well for comparing one area with another for frequency and
magnitude of fields.

Good luck!


Robin Cross
Director : EM Unit, Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
eurc-at-giraffe.ru.ac.za (tel: +27 461 318168 - fax: +27 461 24377)




From: ROBIN CROSS :      EURC-at-giraffe.ru.ac.za
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 12:27:47 GMT+0200
Subject: multiple users of EM's

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I have run an EM service unit for over 25 years during time which
the question of hands-on usage of the instruments has often been
discussed. This unit's size (4 EM's and a staff of four) is
probably common to many throughout the world and from what I
have seen of the present discussion on this issue our
problems/experiences/solutions are similarly shared by many
people elsewhere.

While there is no doubt that instruments will be better off if
only operated by trained full time EM Unit staff this policy is
seldom practical. Policies in force 25 years ago, when it usually
required the skills of regular operators to get the best out of
electron microscopes, no longer need to be so rigidly applied.
Today, not only is it easier for practically anyone to get good
results out of modern EM's with a minimum of training but also
it is much less likely that an inexperienced user will cause
any serious damage (with instruments such as our JEOL 1210,
filament saturation is pre-programmed and even if finger-happy
users create havoc with the beam the correct alignment can be
fully restored in one simple operation). We have found that to
work effectively the policy needs to be flexible and dependent
largely on two important factors:

- the nature and extent of the work
- the aptitude of the user for using this instrumentation.

In very general terms the policy successfully applied here is
that if a user's project is of the "once-off" variety (likely to
involve only one or two sessions) we will carry out or closely
supervise almost everything involving our equipment, but at the
same time encourage the user to share in the viewing,
interpretation and photography of images, etc. If the project
will require repeated use of the EM (more than, say, 3 or 4
sessions) then we find it worth our while to train that user to
operate the instrument more-or-less by themselves. The extent to
which this training extends depends on the anticipated amount of
usage and the perceived ability of that user to handle these
instruments. What generally happens is that the longer that
person uses the instrument the more procedures he/she will be
taught to perform. For a while this operation is confined to
just viewing and micrography with assistance being given in
other necessary operations such as specimen and film exchange.
Seldom, however, does user training extend to anything beyond
actual operation procedures (specimen exchange, viewing and
micrography). Although specimen preparation by properly trained
people is routinely allowed after hours in the EM Unit, use of
the EM's is very seldom permitted when no members of the EM Unit
staff are in the vicinity, mainly because of the validity of the
university's insurance cover (both for the user and the
instruments) in the event of an emergency under such
circumstances. Maintenance operations such as start- up,
alignment, filament exchange, etc, are not carried out by users.

Although it is sometimes seen to be discriminatory to have
one policy for one group of users and another for others, as
soon as the rationale behind the policy has been made clear
we have seldom had any further problems. As a result this
compromise policy works well and as long as our circumstances
remain as they are I see no reason to make any significant
changes.


Robin Cross
Director : EM Unit, Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
eurc-at-giraffe.ru.ac.za (tel: +27 461 318168 - fax: +27 461 24377)




From: Ostertag Tom :      ostertag_tom-at-mn15-gw.mavd.honeywell.com
Date: 19 Feb 1996 07:47:22 U
Subject: RE: Carl Zeiss Jena

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Jean-Louis Beek wrote:

} I have recently purchased an old Carl Zeiss Jena compound microscope , =

While on the subject, we have a Jenavert microscope that we inherited that is
in need of some parts to maintain tension in the stage adjustment. Our local
service provider has been waiting 6 months for these parts. Anyone have any
news about when we can expect to see our parts? How about any news about Carl
Zeiss Jena itself?

Tom Ostertag
ostertag_tom-at-mn15-gw.mavd.honeywell.com
Tom.Ostertag-at-mavdmh.honeywell.com
tostertag-at-tcm.mn.org
Minneapolis, MN










From: Walt Bobrowski (313) 996-7814 :      bobroww-at-aa.wl.com
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 08:33:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Email virus..HOAX!

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The Good Times Virus threat is a complete fabrication that was started by some
members of America Online. Members should completely disregard posted messages
that perpetuate this myth that has assumed a life of it's own.

Walt Bobrowski






From: Vladimir Dusevich :      dusevich-at-astro.ocis.temple.edu
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 10:40:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: SEM/stainless steel ball

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Optical reflectivness make no sense for SEM. Metallic samples are almost
ideal for SEM observation. I suppose, the only problem you have is focusing
on specimen which is about couple cm above stage surface. Try using full
focus range at minimum magnification.

Vladimir Dusevich
dusevich-at-astro.ocis.temple.edu


On Fri, 16 Feb 1996, Sandra F. Zane wrote:

} Hello All,
} A graduate student here has been given the task of looking at the
} surface of a highly polished stainless steel ball which is used in hip
} replacements. The ball is about 2.5-3 cm in diameter and as you might
} imagine, is extremely reflective. Since all I have ever examined in an SEM
} are biological samples, I haven't been able to help her very much. This
} morning we got what appeared to be a grid image on the surface and I am
} wondering if this might not be a reflection of the interior surface of the
} specimen chamber. I suggested sputter coating the surface to cut down on
} reflection and mounting it on some double stick tape to keep it stable; but
} she doesn't think the person who assigned her this task would want that.
} Without regard to the wants of the person assigning the task, do any of you
} in the materials science have any suggestions which might be helpful to this
} young lady. She and I would both be very grateful.
} TIA, Sandra Zane
} Sandra F. Zane, EM Tech. sfzane-at-unccvm.uncc.edu
} Dept of Biol., UNC Charlotte (704) 547-4051
} 9201 University City Blvd. Fax (704) 547-3128
} Charlotte, NC 28223-0001
}
}
}
}




From: John Getty :      jgetty-at-du.edu
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:13:37 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Virus hoax

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Greetings,

An interesting article about the good times "virus" is located at:

http://www.du.edu/~buffer/jan96/goodtime.html

The bottom line is that the good times virus is a hoax. . . and
has received more time and attention from the Internet community
than it deserves.

John Getty
University of Denver
jgetty-at-du.edu






From: gwe-at-biotech.ufl.edu (Greg Erdos)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 11:54:07 GMT
Subject: Pathology/TEM

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A question for those doing thin section TEM for diagnostic pathology:

Is there a standard protocol for rapid processing of tissues where
overnight ( or sooner) results are required? I am talking straight morpholgy.
-at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at--at-
Greg Erdos Phone: 352-392-1295
Scientific Director,
ICBR Electron Microscopy Core Lab
218 Carr Hall Fax: 352-846-0251
University of Florida E-mail: gwe-at-biotech.ufl.edu
Gainesville, FL 32611
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From: Nina S Allen :      nallen-at-unity.ncsu.edu
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 11:39:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: RE: Carl Zeiss Jena

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As most of you know, when Germany was reunited so was Zeiss aus Jena and
Zeiss aus Oberkochen. They are now one company. They are gradually
moving to East Germany. Nina Allen

On 19 Feb 1996, Ostertag Tom wrote:

} Jean-Louis Beek wrote:
}
} } I have recently purchased an old Carl Zeiss Jena compound microscope , =
}
} While on the subject, we have a Jenavert microscope that we inherited that is
} in need of some parts to maintain tension in the stage adjustment. Our local
} service provider has been waiting 6 months for these parts. Anyone have any
} news about when we can expect to see our parts? How about any news about Carl
} Zeiss Jena itself?
}
} Tom Ostertag
} ostertag_tom-at-mn15-gw.mavd.honeywell.com
} Tom.Ostertag-at-mavdmh.honeywell.com
} tostertag-at-tcm.mn.org
} Minneapolis, MN
}
}
}
}
}
}
}




From: Warren Straszheim :      wesaia-at-iastate.edu
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:17:58 -0600
Subject: Re: Email virus...beware

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Personally, my taste in humor runs in a different direction.

The "Good times virus" is a hoax. It has been around for several years now.
About once a month I hear about it again. And as often, those who know
better point out that it is a hoax. The most damage that comes from it is
the cluttering of the mail system with its false alarm and the
clarifications that it is a fake.

Viruses have to be executed, not just downloaded, to infect a machine.
Therefore, it is a good idea not to automatically open, execute, or run
attachments. Our "convenient" mail programs with their auto-this and that
features could do us a disservice.

The Macro viruses ARE making the rounds. These viruses hide out in
autoexecute macros in Word and Excel documents. Lest you think Microsoft
alone has a problem, any software that has such a macro capability is
potentially at risk. Still the document has to be opened for the macros to
execute.

I continue to see warnings about AOL-Gold and PKZip 3.0 viruses. I have not
seen them personally, but have been informed by reliable sources (CICA, et
al) that they are legitimate. PKZip's current version is 2.04; the 3.0
designation is bogus and carries the virus. AOL-Gold has a virus hidden in
the alleged install procedure. I thought AOL had pretty well stomped it out
and warned their subscribers.
----------------------------------------------------
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270 Metals Development, Ames Lab/ISU, Ames IA, 50011
Phone: 515-294-8187 FAX: 515-294-3091
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coal characterization and processing
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From: jfmjfm-at-umich.edu (John F. Mansfield)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 22:14:51 -0400
Subject: Re: Email virus...ignore, it's a hoax.

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I would ignore this it is a resurfacing of a hoax from last year.


At 11:07 AM 2/19/96, Diana van Driel wrote:
} } There is a virus being sent about through the email system, it is
} } usually sent with the subject (good news....). I received the below mail
} } from my brother, who works with ICL. ICL sent the below message to all
} } of it's employees.
} }
} } Please see the attached and take appropriate action.
} }
} }
} } Issued by IT Services
} }
} }
} } COMPUTER VIRUS
} }
} } There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If
} } you receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Good Times," DO
} } NOT read the message, DELETE it immediately. Please read the messages
} } below.
} }
} } Some miscreant is sending e-mail under the title "Good Times"
} } nationwide. If you get anything like this, DON'T DOWNLOAD THE FILE!
} } It has a virus that rewrites your hard drive, obliterating anything
} } on it.
} }
} } Please be careful and forward this mail to anyone you care about.
} }
} } *************************************************************
} }
} } WARNING!!!!!!! INTERNET VIRUS
} }
} } The FCC released a warning last Wednesday concerning a matter of major
} } importance to any regular user of the Internet. Apparently a new
} } computer virus has been engineered by a user of AMERICA ON LINE that
} } is unparalleled in its destructive capability. Other more well-known
} } viruses such as "Stoned," "Airwolf" and "Michaelangelo" pale in
} } comparison to the prospects of this newest creation by a warped
} } mentality. What makes this virus so terrifying, said the FCC, is the
} } fact that no program needs to be exchanged for a new computer to be
} } infected. It can be spread through the existing e-mail systems of the
} } Internet. Once a computer is infected, one of several things can
} } happen. If the computer contains a hard drive, that will most likely
} } be destroyed. If the program is not stopped, the computer's processor
} } will be placed in an nth-complexity infinite binary loop - which can
} } severely damage the processor if left running that way too long.
} } Unfortunately, most novice computer users will not realize what is
} } happening until it is far too late. Luckily, there is one sure means
} } of detecting what is now known as the "Good Times" virus. It always
} } travels to new computers the same way in a text e-mail message with
} } the subject line reading "Good Times." Avoiding infection is easy
} } once the file has been received - do not read it! The act of loading
} } the file into the mail server's ASCII buffer causes the "Good Times"
} } mainline program to initialize and execute.
} }
} } The program is highly intelligent - it will send copies of itself to
} } everyone whose e-mail address is contained in a receive-mail file or a
} } sent-mail file, if it can find one. It will then proceed to trash the
} } computer it is running on. The bottom line here is - if you receive a
} } file with the subject line "Good Times," delete it immediately! Do
} } not read it! Rest assured that the name was on the "From" line was
} } surely struck by the virus. Warn your friends and local system users
} } of this newest threat to the Internet! It could save them a lot of
} } time and money.
} }
} } E N D O F N O T E
} }
} } --
} } Tomaz Pereira Garcez (u01tp-at-abdn.ac.uk) +44 1224 632549
}
} Diana van Driel
} Dept Ophthalmology C09
} Sydney University 2006
} NSW, AUSTRALIA

John Mansfield
North Campus Electron Microbeam Analysis Laboratory
413 SRB, University of Michigan
2455 Hayward, Ann Arbor MI 48109-2143
Phone: (313)936-3352 FAX (313)936-3352
jfmjfm-at-engin.umich.edu, John.F.Mansfield-at-umich.edu
or jfmjfm-at-umich.edu they all reach me!
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From: philf-at-NEWTON.UMSL.EDU (Philip Fraundorf)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:40:28 -0600
Subject: HREM of randomly-oriented 2D crystals

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Hi,

Can anyone suggest beam-stable specimens consisting of randomly-oriented
2D (i.e. molecule-thick) crystals for HREM (and other kinds of high
resolution) imaging? Simulations we've done (cf. Jun'95 Image of the Month
at {http://newton.umsl.edu/stei_lab/} ) suggest that they will give some
interesting contrast edge-on, even without sub-2A point resolution! I am
particularly interested in getting a TEM specimen of some large polycyclic
aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHS), like dicoronene, for comparison with images of
"2D graphite" in the cores of presolar interstellar graphite onions (cf.
Jan'96 Image of the Month, ibid.).

If anyone has any ideas how one might affect an abrupt transition from 2D
to 3D graphitic growth in the environs just outside the surface of a
carbon-rich red giant, I would love to hear them as well.

Cheers. /philf :)

//\/\/\/\---}
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From: bozzola-at-siu.edu (John. J. Bozzola)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 18:09:57 -0600
Subject: TEM: Ultramicrotome Part

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We were given a Sorval MT-2 ultramicrotome which we have repaired and are
making ready for use. We need to locate a specimen chuck. Can anyone help?
Many thanks.

#############################################################################
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Center for Electron Microscopy
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U.S.A.
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From: Greg2NJ-at-aol.com
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 20:07:56 -0500
Subject: TEM related courses

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Looking for TEM related courses, seminars to attend for beginner to advanced
other than MAS and Scanning Inc.
Use and applications to Biological TEM
Biological Applications, specimen prep etc as related to TEM
Immunocytochemistry, autoradiography, etc. as related to TEM

Any and all leads would be appreciated.

Thanks
Greg2NJ-at-AOL.com
Gregory Argentieri
Sandoz Pharmaceuticals Corp
Electron Microscopy Lab
East Hanover, NJ 07936
201-503-8617





From: Donald Lovett :      lovett-at-trenton.edu
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 21:54:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Rapid processing of tissue samples for TEM

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REGARDING "Good Times"
To all;

This thing is the vampire of the net, it keeps showing up, sucking up
bandwidth and frightening people. I'd like to drive a virtual stake through
the heart of the individual or group that began this. The attachment to
this letter, I don't know if attachments show up on the server, has some
good information sources for virus information on this hoax and in general.

Where ever I go, there I
am.
Bob Lawrence




I know most of you know this, but you might like the phone #s


{ISWORLD-at-IRLEARN.BITNET}

Here is another view on the supposed e-mail virus circulating the
internet. Read through the forwarding notes to the CIAC newsletter.

--Jim

P.S. At this time of the year many of us accept student projects via
diskette or FTP. This latest virus scare provides us with a good reminder
that we should ALWAYS virus check anything we get off the net or from
our students.

=========================================================================

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} To: ciac-at-ncar.ucar.edu
} Subject: CIAC Notes 94-04
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}
} Number 94-04 December 6,
1994
}
} ------------------- A - T - T - E - N - T - I - O - N -------------------
} | CIAC is available 24-hours a day via its two skypage numbers. To use
|
} | this service, dial 1-800-759-7243. The PIN numbers are: 8550070 (for
|
} | the CIAC duty person) and 8550074 (for the CIAC manager). Please keep
|
} | these numbers handy.
|
} -------------------------------------------------------------------------
}
} Welcome to the fourth issue of CIAC Notes! This is a special edition to
} clear up recent reports of a "good times" virus-hoax. Let us know if you
} have topics you would like addressed or have feedback on what is useful
and
} what is not. Please contact the editor, Allan L. Van Lehn, CIAC,
} 510-422-8193 or send E-mail to ciac-at-llnl.gov.
}
} $-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$
} $ Reference to any specific commercial product does not necessarily $
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} $-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$
}
} THE "Good Times" VIRUS IS AN URBAN LEGEND
}
} In the early part of December, CIAC started to receive information
requests
} about a supposed "virus" which could be contracted via America OnLine,
simply
} by reading a message. The following is the message that CIAC received:
}
}
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} | Here is some important information. Beware of a file called Goodtimes.
|
} |
|
} | Happy Chanukah everyone, and be careful out there. There is a virus on
|
} | America Online being sent by E-Mail. If you get anything called "Good
|
} | Times", DON'T read it or download it. It is a virus that will erase
your |
} | hard drive. Forward this to all your friends. It may help them a lot.
|
}
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}
} THIS IS A HOAX. Upon investigation, CIAC has determined that this message
} originated from both a user of America Online and a student at a
university
} at approximately the same time, and it was meant to be a hoax.
}
} CIAC has also seen other variations of this hoax, the main one is that any
} electronic mail message with the subject line of "xxx-1" will infect your
} computer.
}
} This rumor has been spreading very widely. This spread is due mainly to
the
} fact that many people have seen a message with "Good Times" in the header.
} They delete the message without reading it, thus believing that they have
} saved themselves from being attacked. These first-hand reports give a
false
} sense of credibility to the alert message.
}
} There has been one confirmation of a person who received a message with
} "xxx-1" in the header, but an empty message body. Then, (in a panic,
because
} he had heard the alert), he checked his PC for viruses (the first time he
} checked his machine in months) and found a pre-existing virus on his
machine.
} He incorrectly came to the conclusion that the E-mail message gave him
the
} virus (this particular virus could NOT POSSIBLY have spread via an E-mail
} message). This person then spread his alert.
}
} As of this date, there are no known viruses which can infect merely
through
} reading a mail message. For a virus to spread some program must be
executed.
} Reading a mail message does not execute the mail message. Yes, Trojans
have
} been found as executable attachments to mail messages, the most notorious
} being the IBM VM Christmas Card Trojan of 1987, also the TERM MODULE Worm
} (reference CIAC Bulletin B-7) and the GAME2 MODULE Worm (CIAC Bulletin
B-12).
} But this is not the case for this particular "virus" alert.
}
} If you encounter this message being distributed on any mailing lists,
simply
} ignore it or send a follow-up message stating that this is a false rumor.
}
} Karyn Pichnarczyk
} CIAC Team
} ciac-at-llnl.gov
}
}
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}
} If you require additional assistance or wish to report a vulnerability,
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For years I have been using a protocol that allows me to section
materials the next day. It is modified from a booklet by Millonig:

Fix in buffered GA (3-4 hrs), rinse (45 min), osmicate (2 hrs), rinse and
dehydrate in acetone (3 hrs), infiltrate and embed in Spurr's (about 1 hr).
Instead of agitating each solution for several hours on a rotator to
infiltrate, Millonig recommends using a clinical centrifuge at 2,500 rpm
for 10-15 min for each solution. Polymerize overnight at 70oC. You can
section the next morning (though I prefer curing for an additional week).

This technique also eliminates the need to make multiple batches of resin
or to freeze the unused resin overnight.

Feel free to contact me directly for more details.


______________________________________________________________________
Donald L. Lovett e-mail: lovett-at-trenton.edu
Assoc. Professor, Dept. of Biology voice: (609) 771-2876
Trenton State College, NJ 08650-4700 fax: (609) 771-2674






From: Gerd Schreiter :      G.Schreiter-at-mikrobiologie.uni-halle.de
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 08:56:48
Subject: RE: Carl Zeiss Jena

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} As most of you know, when Germany was reunited so was Zeiss aus Jena and
} Zeiss aus Oberkochen. They are now one company. They are gradually
} moving to East Germany. Nina Allen
}
Right.

Their address:

Carl Zeiss Jena GmbH
Zeiss Gruppe
Tatzendpromenade 1 a
07745 Jena
Germany

Phone: +49 3641 64 0
Fax: +49 3641 642856

Sorry, but I can't find the email address.

Gerd

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From: Frik Koch :      FKoch-at-csir.co.za
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 15:31:16 +0200
Subject: Please subscribe

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From: Wil Bigelow :      Wil_Bigelow-at-mse.engin.umich.edu
Date: 20 Feb 1996 09:24:34 -0400
Subject: More on Alcatel 220 DiffPmp

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Subject: Time: 9:10 AM
OFFICE MEMO More on Alcatel 220 DiffPmpOil Date: 2/20/96

In my last message I apparently gave some people the impression that Alcatel
220 diffusion pump oil is a polyphenyl ether fluid. This is not correct. It
is the synthetic hydrocarbon compound eicosyl naphthalene. As shown in the
graph of pump fluid characteristics on page 182, and as discussed on p 183,
of the reference previously cited (I've been asked to stop mentioning this
source directly, since some people think it smacks of commercialism), it has
vapour pressure and boiling point characteristics very similar to the
polyphenyl ether fluids Santovac-5 and Convalex-10, and is perhaps as good as
these fluids in regard to thermal and oxidative stability. I believe it is
also significangly less expensive than the PPE fluids. Factors to be
considered in changing from one pump fluid to another are also discussed on
p. 189 of said reference.
W. C. Bigelow (bigelow-at-umich.edu)





From: Scott Holt :      102467.2752-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: 20 Feb 96 10:57:20 EST
Subject: SEM of Stainless Steel Ball.

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Sandra,

The grid pattern that you said is appearing as a reflection of the SEM chamber's
interior sounds like a 'charge mirror'. This usually occurs if you have a
highly insulative surface which has been hit with a high energy beam to build up
a charge. Then, when the beam energy is reduced to 1 or 2 KeV, the beam is
repelled by the charge surface, scanning the screen of the secondary electron
detector instead. Since the reflected beam continues to raster normally, you
get an image of the detector screen instead of the sample. The problem is that
you are viewing a metallic surface which shouldn't be charging. Is there a
non-conductive coating on the ball?

One other possiblity...This is really unlikely, but I have done it before...
The opening of the chamber to the diffusion pump may have a screen covering it
(My JEOL 840A does). I have made the error of missing the sample altogether and
imaging this screen. Sounds ridiculous, but it's true. You may want to consider
this (like checking for your keys in the refrigerator).

Good Luck.

Scott D. Holt
BUEHLER, LTD.
41 Waukegan Rd.
Lake Bluff, IL 60044
Phone: (847)295-4546...New area code!





From: EmLab :      EMLAB-at-OPUS.MCO.EDU
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 10:16:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Pathology/TEM

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From: ENERGY BEAM SCIENCES, INC :      75767.640-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: 20 Feb 96 12:30:51 EST
Subject: Re: TEM: Sorvall Ultramicrotome Part

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John-
I recommend you call Bill McGee at Microtome Sevice Co (315-451-1404). Bill
used to work for DuPont-Sorvall and is very experienced with parts and service
for the MT-2.
Steven Slap
102134,1660-at-compuserve.com





From: ldm2-at-apollo.numis.nwu.edu (L.D.Marks)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 13:54:31 -0600
Subject: Electron Beam cleaning

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I have been persuaded (now to my regret) to give a talk about
electron beam cleaning. Having posted requests for information to a number
of logical sources (e.g. the surface science listserver) and only recieved
information requesting that I send THEM anything useful, let me try here -
at least we use electron beams! Has anyone heard of this and know any
useful references or links ?




From: levin-at-ecsuc.ctstateu.edu (Martin Levin)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 11:21:12 -0600
Subject: Calculating Area

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I would like to calculate the individual areas of muscle fibers in frozen
muscle sections. In the past I have used a planimeter and/or a simple grid
transparency. I would like to switch to a more "1990's" method, presumably
using a graphics tablet and the appropriate software. Basically, the
software would not only have to calculate individual fiber areas, but also
what percent of the entire muscle is made up of one fiber type or another.
Certainly a built in statistical package would be useful. If anyone could
recommend a set-up for use with a Macintosh, I would greatly appreciate it.
If there is another way besides a graphics tablet, I would certainly
consider that as well.

Thank you,

Martin A. Levin
Department of Biology
Eastern Connecticut State University
Willimantic, CT 06226
Phone: (860)465-4324 FAX: (860)465-5213






From: Tina Carvalho :      tina-at-pbrc.hawaii.edu
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 09:48:46 -1000 (HST)
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The boss is ready to send a manuscript off to a journal and has asked
for the definition of High Resolution SEM vs regular good res SEM. He's
looking at intramembrane particles of 10-20 nm on our Hitachi S-800
Field Emission SEM, which I lovingly always introduce as our Hi-res
SEM. Are there definitions in place for hi-res SEM and TEM? I see all
kinds of terms bandied about, but no numbers...

We also have a related query; Is anyone aware of any papers on non-cryo
SEM of intramembrane particles? Not freeze-fracture, not frozen,
hydrated, cryo SEM, and not AFM. We want to make sure to reference any
related work.

Thanks and aloha,
Tina

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From: dbd1-at-uclink4.berkeley.edu
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 13:59:28 -0800
Subject: Chuck for Bozz

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I have a few extras. Flat or standard?


Doug Davis
Staff Research Associate
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University of California
Berkeley, CA 94720
(510) 642-2085
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From: Elinor Solit :      cambrex-at-world.std.com
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:22:22 +0001 (EST)
Subject: Re: Carl Zeiss Jena

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Mr. Beek,

Suggest you try Ernst Keller at Zeiss in Thornwood, New York. If he
can't help you directly, I'll bet he can put you in touch with those who can.

Their 800 # is 356-1090.

Good luck,

Ellie Solit
The Cambrex Group

On Sun, 18 Feb 1996, Jean-Louis Beek wrote:

} Hello everyone,
}
} Yet again I am resorting to the listserv for advise as it has never let me down.
}
} I have recently purchased an old Carl Zeiss Jena compound microscope , and would like
} to establish the value of it by a true connoisseur.
} A brief description:
} It is brass with a black base, a mirror as a light source, and a separate condenser for each
} objective. A circular stage with poloriser and analyzer.
} Complete in wooden box with extra eyepieces and objectives.
}
} Is anyone able to assist me over the net or do I have to resort to antique dealers.
} Looking forward to any help I can get.
}
} Regards,
} Jean-Louis Beek
} jlbeek-at-solo.pipex.co.za
}
}
}
}
}
}




From: EmLab :      EMLAB-at-OPUS.MCO.EDU
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 11:17:14 -0500 (EST)
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Dear Greg,
When I need to rapid process tissues I use the following protocol:

1) Fix in 3% glut for 5 min. with a 30 sec. Microwave (MW) blast. (temp of solution
not to excede 50 C)
2) Rinse 2X with sodium cacodylate for 30 sec. each.
3) Post-fix in 1% OsO4 for 15 min. including a 30 MW.
4) Rinse in s-collidine 2X for 30 sec. each.
5) Tertiary fix in saturated UA for 15 min. with a 30 sec. MW.
6) Dehydrate in ethanol (30,50,70,90,95,32X-100%) for 30 sec. each using the
microwave for each step.
7) De-ethanate (like this word?) with 100% acetone 4X for 30 sec. each using
the microwave.
8) Infilitrate with a 1:1 mixture of acetone:Spurr's resin (rapid cure) for
1 hour with a MW blast every 10 min.
9) Place tissue in filled BEEM capsules and place in convection oven at 70 C.
10) Every 10 min. increase temp 2.5 C and at the end of 1.5 hrs remove blocks
and section. (do not excede 100 C)

Tissue should not be any bigger than 2mm, and assuming that you receive it in
formalin. If not received in Formalin, increase the glut fixation to
about 15 min.

In our lab any thing that is not done on the same day that we receive it, is
not considered STAT. We routinely try and get samples out (at least
on the scope) within 24 hrs of receiving them.

Hope this protocol works for you,

Best of luck
Ed Calomeni
Dept. Pathology
Medical College of Ohio
Toledo, OH 43699
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From: Sarka Lhotak :      lhotaks-at-fhs.csu.mcmaster.ca
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:46:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: TEM/Pathology

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On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, Greg Erdos wrote:

} A question for those doing thin section TEM for diagnostic pathology:
}
} Is there a standard protocol for rapid processing of tissues where
} overnight ( or sooner) results are required? I am talking straight morpholgy.

In our lab we use the following processing procedure for those occasional
rush clinical specimens:
It is assumed that the specimen is delivered to the lab in 2% GA. Cut
material into smaller pieces than for routine, approx. 1/2 mm3. Follow
the procedure bellow:

-sodium cacodylate (0.2M pH7.4) 2x3 min 4C
-osmium tetroxide (1%) in 0.1M NaCac 1x40 min 4C
-70% EtOH 2x5 min RT
-95% EtOH 2x5 min RT
-100% EtOH 3x10 min RT
-propylene oxide 3x5 min RT
-50:50 Spurr's:propylene oxide 1x20 min RT
-75:25 Spurr's:propylene oxide 1x20 min RT
-100% Spurr's 1x30 min RT

Embed in fresh 100% Spurr's and polymerize in an oven at 85 C for 1 - 1
1/2 hours.

Sarka Lhotak
EM Facility, Mc Master University
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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From: South Bay Technology :      73531.1344-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: 20 Feb 96 13:24:57 EST
Subject: Ion Milling Damage

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While I do not have the definitive answer to the beam energy/angle incidence
debate, I do have several references that may be of help:

All of the following are by Dr. Arpad Barna of the Research Institute of
Technical Physics of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences. If you have an
interest, please contact me off-line and I can send you copies at no charge.

1) Topographic Kinetics and Practice of Low Angle Ion Beam Thinning

2) The Possibility of Surface Polishing by Ion Beam Thinning

3) Ion Beam Thinning on the Bases of Topographic Kinetics

4) Model Considerations of Ion Beam Thinning for Preparing TEM Samples

There are other papers dealing with specific sample sets such as diamond
coatings and other materials that may be of interest also. There is a lot of
good information in these papers but I don't recommend them for those who are
fainthearted as the math can be a bit intimidating at times!

South Bay Technology does sell the IV3 Ion Mill which is produced in Hungary and
is based on work done by Dr. Barna. Some proceeds, I believe, go to fund
research at the Research Insitute of Technical Physics. That being said, please
be aware that these are technical reports and NOT brochures on the ion mill!
The theory is applicable to any ion mill. I hope this information helps!

Best regards-

David Henriks TEL: 800-728-2233 (toll-free in USA)
South Bay Technology, Inc. 714-492-2600
1120 Via Callejon FAX: 714-492-1499
San Clemente, CA 92673 USA e-mail: 73531.1344-at-compuserve.com
sbt-at-msa.microscopy.com

Manufacturers of Precision Sample Preparation Equipment and Supplies for
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From: Sarka Lhotak :      lhotaks-at-fhs.csu.mcmaster.ca
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:39:48 -0500 (EST)
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On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, Greg Erdos wrote:

} A question for those doing thin section TEM for diagnostic pathology:
}
} Is there a standard protocol for rapid processing of tissues where
} overnight ( or sooner) results are required? I am talking straight morpholgy.

In our lab we use the following processing procedure for those occasional
rush clinical specimens:
It is assumed that the specimen is delivered to the lab in 2% GA. Cut
material into smaller pieces than for routine, approx. 1/2 mm3. Follow
the procedure bellow:

-sodium cacodylate (0.2M pH7.4) 2x3 min 4C
-osmium tetroxide (1%) in 0.1M NaCac 1x40 min 4C
-70% EtOH 2x5 min RT
-95% EtOH 2x5 min RT
-100% EtOH 3x10 min RT
-propylene oxide 3x5 min RT
-50:50 Spurr's:propylene oxide 1x20 min RT
-75:25 Spurr's:propylene oxide 1x20 min RT
-100% Spurr's 1x30 min RT

Embed in fresh 100% Spurr's and polymerize in an oven at 85 C for 1 - 1
1/2 hours.

Sarka Lhotak
EM Facility, Mc Master University
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
lhotaks-at-fhs.mcmaster.ca




From: lag-at-pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Lucille A. Giannuzzi) (by way of zaluzec-at-Microscopy.Com (Nestor J. Zaluzec))
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 20:58:39 -0600
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I have spare parts (sorry, an inventory of assorted stuff is not available)
from an Hitachi HU-11E TEM that is available for anyone who wants them.
Just pay for the shipping and it's yours.

Please respond to:


*************************************************************************
Lucille A. Giannuzzi, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor

Materials Science and Eng. Program
Dept. of Mechanical and Aerospace Eng. phone (407) 823-5770
University of Central Florida fax (407) 823-0208
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From: zaluzec-at-Microscopy.Com (Nestor J. Zaluzec)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 21:23:08 -0600
Subject: Re: Calculating Area

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} I would like to calculate the individual areas of muscle fibers in frozen
} muscle sections. In the past I have used a planimeter and/or a simple grid
} transparency. I would like to switch to a more "1990's" method,


The infinitely valuable (& Mac Native) image processing/analysis computer
program
called NIH Image written by Wayne Rasband, will readily do this work for
you. You will have to
first digitize an image of the muscle sections ( & a variety of options are
available to you here, flat bed scanners, TV cameras, slow scan CCD's) to
get the data
on to the Mac, but this should be easier than using the graphics tablet.
This will be your limiting step, but once done then you can digitize
areas & tabulate the results. By writing a simple macro you can automatically
compute % or export the results to a spreadsheet program.

Using various Operating System Emulators (Executor for the PC, MAE for Unix)
the program can also be run on Unix boxes & Windoze Machines. One commerical
manufacturer is developing a port of this program to the PC platform.


You can download a free copy of Image (current version number is 1.60)
from either the NIH ftp site
(zippy.nimh.nih.gov)
or the MSA ftp site
(ftp.msa.microscopy.com)
or the ANL AAEM WWW Site
(www.amc.anl.gov)
in all cases you should look for the "public" directory then filter
down the directory paths until you see the imaging/data processing area.

The documentation is extensive and very good.


Nestor Zaluzec
Your Friendly Neighborhood SysOp

P.S. I have no commerical interest in NIH ;-)






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From: John M. Libert :      jlibert-at-cpcug.org
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 07:39:49 -0800
Subject: Re: Calculating Area

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Message-ID: {312B3CC5.3A33-at-cpcug.org}

Martin,
Any respectable image analysis software should be suitable. IPLab
Spectrum from Signal Analytics would be good for MacIntosh. Try NIH Image
first as it is free. In any case, the difficulty will be measuring the
individual fibers as segmenting the individuals from the mass via
thresholding may prove difficult without clearly defined boundaries. Some
image enhancement might be useful. Manual tracing might be necessary.

I can supply you with IPLab spectrum. I can supply you NIH Image with a
frame grabber board for your MacIntosh. SCION supplies Image with its
boards.

John
Martin Levin wrote:
}
} I would like to calculate the individual areas of muscle fibers in frozen
} muscle sections. In the past I have used a planimeter and/or a simple grid
} transparency. I would like to switch to a more "1990's" method, presumably
} using a graphics tablet and the appropriate software. Basically, the
} software would not only have to calculate individual fiber areas, but also
} what percent of the entire muscle is made up of one fiber type or another.
} Certainly a built in statistical package would be useful. If anyone could
} recommend a set-up for use with a Macintosh, I would greatly appreciate it.
} If there is another way besides a graphics tablet, I would certainly
} consider that as well.
}
} Thank you,
}
} Martin A. Levin
} Department of Biology
} Eastern Connecticut State University
} Willimantic, CT 06226
} Phone: (860)465-4324 FAX: (860)465-5213




From: rutledge phil :      prutle1-at-gl.umbc.edu
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 10:12:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: TEM/Pathology

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As far as "RUSH" processing tissue for diagnostic EM here is the method
I've used for 15 years in a diagnostic EM lab. We routinely got good
results and 8x10 glossies by 4 that afternoon. Hope this helps.

"RUSH" Processing for EM
3
Tissue must be no larger than 1.5mm . Well fixed.(2.5% glut in
Dulbecco's PBS, pH7.3)

WASH...............PBS..................2X5 MIN.
1%OsO4 in PBS...........................20 MIN RTEMP.
WASH...............PBS..................2X5 MIN
*70% ETOH...............................3 MIN
95% ETOH................................3 MIN
100% ETOH...............................2X5 MIN
PROPYLENE OXIDE.........................2X5 MIN
1:1 P.O.:ARALDITE 502...................30 MIN (REMOVE Caps)
1:3 " " ...................20 MIN
PURE ARALDITE 502.......................10 MIN

EMBED

CURE IN 75C OVEN FOR 50 MIN. PLACE IN 95C OVEN FOR 50 MIN.
PLACE IN FREEZER AND LET COOL 10 MIN.

*ALCOHOLS MUST BE FRESH.

This method worked rather well when I was at GW University. If you have
any questions, call or e-mail me.

Peace,

Phil Rutledge, Director voice: (410) 455-3582
Center for Electron Microscopy e-mail: prutle1-at-gl.umbc.edu
UMBC
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From: mdubey-at-FTMON.ARL.MIL (Dubey, Madan)
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 14:13 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Isotro Wet etch Palladium

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Does any one know an isotropic wet etch for Palladium? I am trying to
make an etched pattern on Pd deposited on GaAs. The Pd is coated with
photoresist and should be wet etched for making the patterns.

Thanks;

M. Dubey
Research Physical Scientist
Physical Science Directorate
Advanced Devices Fabrication Division
AMSRL-PS-DB
Fort Monmouth, NJ 07703
Ph. 908-427-4040
Fx. 908-427-4306






From: Scott Williams :      scott_williams-at-pch.gc.ca
Date: 2/21/96 7:35 AM
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Does anyone know of a source for an infrared microscope? I have a professor
here that wants one.

Thanks

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From: Diana van Driel
Date: 2/18/96 9:22 PM
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From: leeman-at-VOEDING.TNO.NL
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 08:24:55 EST
Subject: LM - BLOCKING ENDOGENOUS PEROXIDASE

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Dear microscopists,

A colleague of me is struggling with an immunostaining procedure.

Problem: Blocking the endogenous peroxidase in intestines from rats and mice in
cryo sections. Untill now we've tried Perhydrol in different concentrations,
vari‹ng between 0.3 and 2.4% with or without 0.1% sodium azide before, during
and after fixation. Upto now we did not succeed blocking the endogenous
peroxidase in cryo sections.

Who can help????


Winfried Leeman
TNO Food & Nutrition Research Institute
PO box 360
3700 AJ Zeist
the Netherlands
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From: Microscopy-request
Date: Wednesday, February 21, 1996 2:13PM
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Does any one know an isotropic wet etch for Palladium? I am trying to
make an etched pattern on Pd deposited on GaAs. The Pd is coated with
photoresist and should be wet etched for making the patterns.

Thanks;

M. Dubey
Research Physical Scientist
Physical Science Directorate
Advanced Devices Fabrication Division
AMSRL-PS-DB
Fort Monmouth, NJ 07703
Ph. 908-427-4040
Fx. 908-427-4306






From: Neal Nicklaus :      nnicklaus-at-nova.sarnoff.com
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:31:18 -0500
Subject: Re: Infrared microscope

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Depends upon your definition of "infrared". A near infrared (e.g. around 1
um) microscope may be purchased from Research Devices (NJ). Telephone
908-572-4800 and fax 908-572-4808.

Many standard microscope will also work in the near IR, just with poorer
quality. In fact, Research Devices used to take standard microscope
objectives, disassemble, re-space the components and reassemble.

You may adapt a standard microscope for near IR work by using a CCD camera
without color correction filter at the camera port or by using an image
converter. You need to check the optics of the specific microscope you have
to make sure there are no selective spectral coatings, etc.

Looking in a copy of the Photonics Buyers Guide (should be in your library)
yields a list of about a dozen vendors under "microscopes,infrared".
Depending upon your requirements you might also call them.

-----------------------------------
At 07:35 AM 2/21/96 CST, you wrote:
}
} Does anyone know of a source for an infrared microscope? I have a professor
} here that wants one.
}
} Thanks
}
}

Neal Nicklaus

SEQ Limited

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From: Bob Citron :      Bob_Citron-at-cc.chiron.com
Date: 2/21/96 12:42 PM
Subject: EDX sum peak

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I'm looking at fused silica, quartz, trying to identify an inclusion

which I think is iron. I have a good K alpha iron peak, so all is well so

far, but also I have a large peak in an area where either Al or a sum peak

for the L alpha line of iron should be, but I have no peak at the area

where the L alpha should be.

My question is, can you have a sum peak, on EDX, for a particular

element, and not have a peak where the one should be that is causing the sum
peak?
I think the answer is yes, perhaps my counts are coming in too fast

and its doubling everything and showing a sum peak, but I thought I would ask.

Thanks,

Mark Darus

General Electric Co.

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From: randy nessler :      rnessler-at-emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 10:29:35 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Dissolving polymerized acrylic?

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Hello Everyone,
I need to find out what solvent can be used to dissolve polymerized LR
White or Lowicryl. I am not sure which resin is the culprit. We have a
Reichert-Jung CS auto cryo-substitution unit, whose specimen substitution
chamber has become stuck in the substitution container (terminology taken from
the owners manual). Since it has been stuck for some time, and I wasn't
informed of the resin being used at the time the problem started, I can only
limit it to LR White or Lowicryl. A vendor of LR White suggested that 'acrylic
paint remover' might be the only hope. What common lab chemicals are in 'acrylic
paint remover'. Any other suggestions?
Thanks in advance,


Randy Nessler
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From: roy-at-bayou.uh.edu (Roy Christoffersen)
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:31:07 -0500
Subject: HRTEM with cryogenic sample holders

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What is the shared experience out there with HRTEM imaging using a
cryogenic (LN2) sample holder? I have used the ubiquitous Gatan-type of
cryogenic holder for reducing certain types of beam damage for CTEM and
AEM, but now I would like to do some lattice-fringe imaging using the
holder to limit beam-induced reduction of my oxide samples. How much will
my point-to-point resolution be degraded by vibration, drift or other
effects induced by the holder? On Gatan's Web page they seem to quote a
guaranteed resolution of around 0.5 nm with 0.34 "attainable". This is not
too encouraging for imaging oxide lattice spacings. I will try anyway, but
perhaps I'm bound to be disappointed....Can someone predict my future?

Roy Christoffersen
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3201 Cullen
Houston, TX 77204-5932
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From: philf-at-NEWTON.UMSL.EDU (Phil Fraundorf)
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:29:09 -0600
Subject: Re: Infrared Microscope

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Robin Griffin wrote:
} Does anyone know of a source for an infrared microscope? I have a professor
} here that wants one.

Do you want a system which images things, counts things, takes spectra of
small regions, or all three? What sizes are the things you want to look at?
In or on what kind of substrate?

These are questions to answer before I even know if I could point you in the
right direction. For example, there are IR systems which can count solid
state defects only 20nm in size, even providing spatial coordiants for them
in three dimensions, but nonetheless form neither images (certainly not at
THAT resolution!) nor spectra.

Cheers. /philf :)

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From: Katherine.S.Connolly-at-Dartmouth.EDU (Katherine S. Connolly)
Date: 22 Feb 96 15:00:53 EST
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I get rid of errant L.R. White with 95% ethanol soaking.
Kate Connolly




From: David.Rothbard-at-ipst.edu (David Rothbard)
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:58:43 -0500
Subject: Re: ISO 9000 Certification

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Contrary to the suggestion that this discussion be off-line, I feel this is
an area that needs greater awareness and implementation in microscopy
laboratories. There are two issues here: the quality system chosen, and
the method of implementation.

The ISO 9000 series is production and supply oriented, but does contains
standards applicable for the laboratory. ISO/IEC Guide 25 is more
laboratory oriented. In a short paper at a 1994 Paper Industry conference,
one of my colleagues compared these with each other and the ANSI-ASCQ Q2
standards for laboratory quality.

Regardless of the system chosen there are many things that need doing in a
microscopy laboratory to establish a quality program. They include
documentation of operating procedures, regular checks of microscope and
EDX performance (signal strength, resolution, magnification calibration),
logging of all instrument repairs and adjustments, analytical data review,
etc.. As a practical matter it has been difficult to achieve the
discipline and establish priority to execute performance tests on a regular
basis.

I would like to hear from others who have implemented quality programs as
to their experiences.

David Rothbard

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From: RonMervis-at-aol.com
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:24:35 -0500
Subject: Mounting media for coverslipping

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Hi Netters...
I have a question for you histology/microscopy mavens out there... we have
been embedding our Golgi-stained tissueblocks in low viscosity
nitrocellulose...the cut sections are cleared in alpha-terpineol and after
several thorough rinses in xylene we have coverslipped the tissue using
Permount (Fisher Scientific)...
Recently, we have also tried using Shandon mounting mediums [Shandon-Mount
and E-Z Mount] (which are methacrylate polymer-based)...we have noticed an
occasional cloudiness in the rim of nitrocellulose surrounding the
tissue....is there something that we can do to eliminate this??? (although
it's more noticable in the nitrocellulose rim, I concerned that the
cloudiness may extend into the tissue itself and might impair
observations...)
Thanks in advance....
Ron Mervis (RonMervis-at-aol.com)
NeuroMetrix Research
tel: 614-486-6080
fax: 614-486-6020




From: Rudolf Oldenbourg :      rudolfo-at-mbl.edu
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:18:53 -0500
Subject: Postdoc Position at MBL

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At the Marine Biological Laboratory in Woods Hole, Massachusetts, is a
Postdoc position available for developing 3-D optical sectioning,
deconvolution and reconstruction techniques applicable to polarized
light microscopy. The techniques will be based on image data obtained
with the New Pol Scope described in a recent article in J. Microscopy,
Nov. 1995, Vol. 180, p. 140-147.

More information on the postdoc position can be obtained at the
Biophysical Society Employment Service:

http://biosci.cbs.umn.edu/biophys/employ.html

Look under "Positions", "Postdoc", "**Marine_Bio-MA-microscopy"
_____________________________________________________________
Rudolf Oldenbourg, PhD
Architectural Dynamics in Living Cells Program
Marine Biological Laboratory, Woods Hole, MA 02543, USA
Tel:508-289-7426, Fax:508-540-6902, E-mail:rudolfo-at-mbl.edu




From: Mark Wall :      Mark.Wall-at-quickmail.llnl.gov
Date: 22 Feb 1996 15:16:04 -0800
Subject: Frontiers Conference

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Call for papers / exhibitors

6th Frontiers conference on electron microscopy in materials science
June 4-7th, Hyatt Regency Oak Brook Hotel, Oak Brook, IL, USA.
Sponsored by ANL, LLNL, LBL, UOP, ORNL, and LANL

This conference will provide an international forum on the appliction of
advanced EM techniques to problems in materials science. Plenary lectures will
summarize the principles and practices of specific techniques used in the
field. Additional presentations will give examples of applications.

Organizing committee: C. W. Allen ANL, W. E. King LLNL, T. E. Mitchel LANL, S.
A. Bradley UOP, T. Nolan ORNL, U. Dahmen LBL, M. Wall (exhibits) LLNL

Program Committee: Magnetic materials-R. Sinclair, Quantitative-HREM U.
Dahmen,
Orientation imaging-H. Weiland, Advanced techniques-S. Bradley, Energy
filtered imaging-J. Mayer.

Subject areas for solicited papers: Metals, HREM, XEDS, Ceramics, Electronic
materials, OIM, Surfaces, EELS, Magnetic materials, CBED, Holography, Specimen
preparation, etc.

For registration information contact Karen Sitzberger at LLNL, 510-423-7988

For exhibitor information contact Mark Wall at LLNL, 510-423-7162, or
Mark.Wall-at-quickmail.llnl.gov
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Good day all.

I have a client who wishes to measure the volume of a liquid wetting a rough
surface.

The liquid fills the "troughs" in the surface, but due to surface tension,
overfills them.

Can anyone suggest a suitable technique for making this measurement?

I've been thinking along the lines of a focus calibrated scanning stage
optical technique (laser confocal?), but this is by no means my area, and I'm
not sure the instrument exists to do the job.

Any suggestions of optical, electron optical, or scanning probe techniques
would be appreciated.

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From: chender-at-umich.edu (Carl Henderson)
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 15:14:22 -0500
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Mark Darus writes:}
} I'm looking at fused silica, quartz, trying to identify an inclusion
} which I think is iron. I have a good K alpha iron peak, so all is well so
} far, but also I have a large peak in an area where either Al or a sum peak
} for the L alpha line of iron should be, but I have no peak at the area
} where the L alpha should be.
} My question is, can you have a sum peak, on EDX, for a particular
} element, and not have a peak where the one should be that is causing the
} sum peak?
} I think the answer is yes, perhaps my counts are coming in too fast
} and its doubling everything and showing a sum peak, but I thought I would ask.

You should also see an Fe L-alpha peak if you are seeing a sum peak for Fe
L-alpha, *unless* the lower level discriminator on your EDS system is set
so high as to cut off low energy lines.

If you suspect that the detector window is absorbing the Fe L-alpha lines,
that detector would still absorb the two photons arriving simultaneously to
create a sum peak, since each photon still only has the energy of the Fe
L-alpha x-ray line.

Lowering the accelerating voltage below the critical excitation voltage for
Fe K-alpha does not necessarily eliminate the possibility of a Fe L-alpha
sum peak since the Fe L-alpha line will still be generated.

The best way to decide if it is a Fe L-alpha sum peak or not is to lower
the x-ray count rate to reduce the incidence of two photons arriving at the
same time. A simple tweaking of the beam current using a condensor lens
control will do this.

(Of course an even better method would be to make the observations with a
wavelength dispersive spectrometer where sum peaks are not a problem.)

Good luck,

Carl


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University of Michigan
Electron Microbeam Analysis Laboratory
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From: W.L. Steffens :      STEFFENS.B-at-calc.vet.uga.edu
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 09:29:48 EST
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In response to Randy Nessler's query on solvents for acrylic-type resins,
methylene chloride works very well. This solvent can be used to
completely solubilize Plexiglas and other acrylic polymers. It is a
principal ingredient in commercial paint strippers.

-=W.L. Steffens=-
Department of Veterinary Pathology
College of Veterinary Medicine
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From: hagler.herb-at-pathology.swmed.edu (Herb Hagler, Ph.D.)
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:38:13 -0600
Subject: Re: Calculating Area

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Martin,
The use of a point counting grid for measuring areas is certainly a 1990's
approach and one advocated by the 'new stereology' group in Europe. Point
counting is the most efficient use of time to get excellent estimates and
takes less time than using thresholding or tracing of individual muscle
fibers. If you combine NIH Image with some of the point counting macros on
the NIH Image server you can capture video images of your tissue, overlay a
point counting grid, score the hits within NIH image and export the data to
excell. In general the maximum number of points that are needed for a good
estimate is between 50 to 100. This combined with proper sampling of your
tissue will yield quick and accurate results. See some of the more recent
papers by Gunderson and group. You will find that this technique gives a
more precise answer than the methods of planimetry or thresholding an
image.

} I would like to calculate the individual areas of muscle fibers in frozen
} muscle sections. In the past I have used a planimeter and/or a simple grid
} transparency. I would like to switch to a more "1990's" method, presumably
} using a graphics tablet and the appropriate software. Basically, the
} software would not only have to calculate individual fiber areas, but also
} what percent of the entire muscle is made up of one fiber type or another.
} Certainly a built in statistical package would be useful. If anyone could
} recommend a set-up for use with a Macintosh, I would greatly appreciate it.
} If there is another way besides a graphics tablet, I would certainly
} consider that as well.
}
} Thank you,
}
} Martin A. Levin
} Department of Biology
} Eastern Connecticut State University
} Willimantic, CT 06226
} Phone: (860)465-4324 FAX: (860)465-5213

Herb Hagler, Ph.D.
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for Southwestern Medical School
UT Southwestern Medical Center
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From: Liang, Long :      LLIANG-at-is.arco.com
Date: 23 Feb 1996 10:36:10 CST
Subject: SEM + laser Raman ?

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Dear Microscopists,

I read an article published many years age. It mentioned that
techniques such as laser-raman spectrometry coupled with electron
microscopy can offer a chance to identify molecule structures of "in
situ" organic matter. Does anyone know of such kind of instrument
available ? Thanks.

Long Liang
ARCO EPMA/SEM Lab
Plano, TX






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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 12:10:36 -0500 (EST)
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Hi all,

A fellow researcher is interested in purschasing either a SyQuest drive or a
Zip drive. Are there any of you kind folks out there that have either/both.
Any comments regarding either system will be much welcomed.

If this subject has been discussed before, please accept my apoligies(sp).

Thanks,
Ed Calomeni
Dept Pathology
Medical College of Ohio
Toledo, OH 43699
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From: EmLab :      EMLAB-at-OPUS.MCO.EDU
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 12:10:36 -0500 (EST)
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Hi all,

A fellow researcher is interested in purschasing either a SyQuest drive or a
Zip drive. Are there any of you kind folks out there that have either/both.
Any comments regarding either system will be much welcomed.

If this subject has been discussed before, please accept my apoligies(sp).

Thanks,
Ed Calomeni
Dept Pathology
Medical College of Ohio
Toledo, OH 43699
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Thanks to those who have responded to my request for technique suggestions
for the measurement of a liquid wetting a rough surface.

I'm afraid "volume" was perhaps a poor choice of words on my part for the
measurement I wish to make. I'm also interested in knowing how far above the
nominal surface the wetting liquid is (due to surface tension), and hopefully
wish to map this over a defined area. I'm expecting the cross section to be
something like:
___
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/\ / \ /
substr. _/ \/ \__/


What do you think about a profilometer trace over a frozen sample, followed
by a trace over the same, cleaned area?

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From: ldettin-at-cmefcm.uncor.edu (Luis Ernesto Dettin)
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 16:54:21 -0500
Subject: SURFACE WETTING

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From: Katherine.S.Connolly-at-Dartmouth.EDU (Katherine S. Connolly)
Date: 23 Feb 96 15:27:14 EST
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The 100 meg Zip drive from Iomege is terrific, you can carry an enormous
amount of information, including particularly greedy TIFF images, in your
pocket.
Kate Connolly




From: Bob Citron :      Bob_Citron-at-cc.chiron.com
Date: 2/22/96 4:18 PM
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Hello Everyone,
I need to find out what solvent can be used to dissolve polymerized LR
White or Lowicryl. I am not sure which resin is the culprit. We have a
Reichert-Jung CS auto cryo-substitution unit, whose specimen substitution
chamber has become stuck in the substitution container (terminology taken from
the owners manual). Since it has been stuck for some time, and I wasn't
informed of the resin being used at the time the problem started, I can only
limit it to LR White or Lowicryl. A vendor of LR White suggested that 'acrylic
paint remover' might be the only hope. What common lab chemicals are in
'acrylic
paint remover'. Any other suggestions?
Thanks in advance,


Randy Nessler
rnessler-at-emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu






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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 17:35:01 -0600
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To all confocal and optical microscope users:

Kovex corporation is currently developing a low-cost confocal
microscope system that will provide real-time 3D images on a PC based
platform. The system eliminates the use of an optical microscope in its
design and is completely portable.

We are interested in receiving feedback from users and purchasers of
microscope equipment in order to determine the usefulness of our products.
We currently use a fixed wavelength system that reduces the flexibility of
our system for the fluorescence user, but provides more opportunities for
cost reduction to the user of reflectance microscopy. A complete system
including software, PC, and external microscope apparatus will sell for
$68,000. It is our intention to make this technology more accessible for
use in quality control environments, and in industrial surface analysis. We
believe our system will be used as a primary analytical tool in R&D
environments where optical systems currently dominate.

Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Matthew C. Boettner
President and CEO
Kovex Corporation

E-mail: boettner-at-spacestar.com
Voice-at- (612) 730-0468
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From: Paul Webster :      paul.webster-at-yale.edu
Date: 23 Feb 1996 16:23:55 -0500
Subject: Re: Calculating Area

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Re} Martin Levin
} I would like to calculate the individual areas of muscle fibers in frozen
} muscle sections. In the past I have used a planimeter and/or a simple grid
} transparency.

I agree with the reply given by Herb Hagler, the overlay counting methods are
efficient, easy to use, and belong to the 1990's battery of techniques. They
can be easily used on digitized images too.

However, I would like to add an additional point. If you are interested in
individual fiber areas then working with the selected fibers is OK. If you are
more interested in the mean fiber volume then you must take care to properly
sample the whole population. Working on a few selected pictures or tracings will
add a bias to your result and thus disqualify it.

To properly eliminate bias requires a defined sampling strategy which starts at
the animal (or culture dish) level and continues through embedding and
sectioning to photography. One paper to cover this point in a readable way is in
J. Histochem. Cytochem. 40:1929-1936 1992 and is written by John Lucocq.

Best regards,
Paul Webster, Ph.D.
Center for Cell Imaging,
Yale School of Medicine.





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Date: 23 February 1996 10:07
Subject: Re: EDX sum peak

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Mark,
You do not say if you have a detector capable of detecting low energy=20
( {1keV) x-rays. If you do not then the peak cannot be an Fe L sum peak as=20
the Fe L x-ray will not reach the detector crystal and therefore cannot the=
n=20
cannot create signals which can contribute to the sum peak .
Eric
----------

{ {File Attachment: UUCP_ENV.TXT} }
Mark Darus writes:}
} I'm looking at fused silica, quartz, trying to identify an=20
inclusion
} which I think is iron. I have a good K alpha iron peak, so all is well so
} far, but also I have a large peak in an area where either Al or a sum peak
} for the L alpha line of iron should be, but I have no peak at the area
} where the L alpha should be.
} My question is, can you have a sum peak, on EDX, for a particular
} element, and not have a peak where the one should be that is causing the
} sum peak?
} I think the answer is yes, perhaps my counts are coming in too fas=
t
} and its doubling everything and showing a sum peak, but I thought I would
ask.

You should also see an Fe L-alpha peak if you are seeing a sum peak for Fe
L-alpha, *unless* the lower level discriminator on your EDS system is set
so high as to cut off low energy lines.

If you suspect that the detector window is absorbing the Fe L-alpha lines,
that detector would still absorb the two photons arriving simultaneously to
create a sum peak, since each photon still only has the energy of the Fe
L-alpha x-ray line.

Lowering the accelerating voltage below the critical excitation voltage for
Fe K-alpha does not necessarily eliminate the possibility of a Fe L-alpha
sum peak since the Fe L-alpha line will still be generated.

The best way to decide if it is a Fe L-alpha sum peak or not is to lower
the x-ray count rate to reduce the incidence of two photons arriving at the
same time. A simple tweaking of the beam current using a condensor lens
control will do this.

(Of course an even better method would be to make the observations with a
wavelength dispersive spectrometer where sum peaks are not a problem.)

Good luck,

Carl


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University of Michigan
Electron Microbeam Analysis Laboratory
2501 C.C. Little Bldg.
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From: bozzola-at-siu.edu (John. J. Bozzola)
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:35:34 -0600
Subject: LM: fluorescence filter for Leica

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I am trying to locate a Leica microscope dealer for info on a slide-in
filter to remove the endogenous fluorescence produced by chloroplasts when
using a Rhodamine filter-pak.

Anyone have any info on the characteristics of such a filter? On another
brand of microscope, such a filter is numbered 575DF40 and 9336. I assume
the 575 refers to the wavelength allowed to pass.

Thank you.

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From: Phil Elizondo :      PELIZONDO-at-svc.com
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 16:24:07 PST
Subject: SEM Analysis Engineer Opening

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Immediate Opening for SEM Analysis Engineer at SVC:


Principal Duties & Responsibilities:

SEM analysis of display components; basic failure analysis.
Responsible for upkeep of JSM 820, with full JEOL service contract;
Supervision & training of other SEM users.



Special work circumstances:

It is preferred that candidate be able to work either an early (start
-at- 6AM) or late (finish -at- 8PM) shift.



Experience & Education Requirements:

B.S. in Physical Science or Engineering or equivalent.
Minimum 3 yrs. experience in Electron Microscopy.


Company Background:

In just 4 years Silicon Video Corp. has become one of the hottest
start ups in Silicon Valley. We are developing a new class of flat
panel display - Thin CRT. Millions in funding from the government
have been obtained. Large corporate partners in industry and
academia connections have been secured. We're searching for highly
qualified candidates to join our team.

Please send resume response to both,

pelizondo-at-svc.com
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From: bozzola-at-siu.edu (John. J. Bozzola)
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 16:49:41 -0600
Subject: Re: external computer drives

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QUESTION:
}
} A fellow researcher is interested in purschasing either a SyQuest drive or a
} Zip drive. Are there any of you kind folks out there that have either/both.
} Any comments regarding either system will be much welcomed.
}
} If this subject has been discussed before, please accept my apoligies(sp).
}
} Ed Calomeni

RESPONSE:

I use both. I have far more experience with SyQuest. No problems with SQ
ever. I tend to favor SyQuest because the head is never in contact with the
platter which is rigid and substantial. SyQuest has a tremendously larger
user base and they are the standard in the publishing industry. There are
presently more of the larger (5.25") SQ platters than the 3.5" SQ's. ZIP
drives use a floppy medium which is held away from the heads by air flow.
Speed wise they are both similar. Replacement platters (disks) are
considerably cheaper with ZIP drives - about half. So, it dependends on
whether price is an issue or if ready exchange of disks is the concern.
ZIP's are new and so we don't know yet if they will be as reliable as SQ's.
Costs for the drives are similar ($200 for the 100 MG drives). You know,
the ZIP folks, IOMEGA, have now come out with the JAZ drive, a 1 GB disk
that is very cheap and the drive costs $400-500.





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From: bob-at-befvax.uchicago.edu
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 17:28:22 EST
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Postdoctoral Position Available at the University of Chicago

in the following areas of research


} RED CELL CYTOSKELETON

} Red cells are able to elastically deform. The extraordinary
} importance of this property can be appreciated from recalling that,
} although the human red cell is a biconcave disk eight microns in
} diameter, it can easily pass through capillaries half this size.
} This remarkable feat is accomplished by the red cell transiently changing
} its shape during passage after which its well-known biconcave
} form spontaneously and nearly instantly recovers. We are studying
} the structural basis of this property using cryoelectron microscopy.
}
} McGough, A. and Josephs, R. (1990) On the structure of
} erythrocyte spectrin in partially expanded skeletons. Proc. Notl.
} Acad. Sci. USA 87: 5208-5212.
}
} Li Li and Robert Josephs. Cryo-Electron Microscopy of Human
} Erythrocyte Membrane Skeletons. Proceedings of the 51st annual
} meeting of the Microscopy Society of America San Francisco
} Press, San Francisco. p. 116 (1993).
}
} SICKLE CELL HEMOGLOBIN

} Sickle cell anemia is caused by the intracellular polymerization of
} sickle cell hemoglobin to form rod-like fibers. A knowledge of the
} fiber structure could be used for the design of an agent that could
} block fiber formation. We have combined the structure of hemoglobin
} (known from X-ray crystallography) and the molecular coordinates
} of the fiber (determined from electron microscopy) in order to
} synthesize a model which shows the intermolecular contacts of the fiber.
} This approach has allowed us to determine the contacts which form
} between molecules in the fiber. We are now studying how various mutations
} (some obtained by site directed mutagenesis) affect fiber structure.
} Such studies are expected to account for the structural and chemical
} properties of fibers in terms of intermolecular interactions.
}
} Watowich, S., Gross L., and Josephs, R. (1989) Intermolecular
} Contacts within Sickle Hemoglobin Fibers. J. Mol. Biol. 209: 821-828.
}
} M. R. Lewis, L. J. Gross, and R. Josephs. Variable Pitch in Frozen
} Hydrated Sickle Hemoglobin Fibers: An Image Analysis Model
} Study. Ultramicroscopy, 56 303-317 (1994).
}
} Michael R. Lewis, Leon J. Gross, and Robert Josephs. Cryo-
} Electron Microscopy ofDeoxy-Sickle Hemoglobin Fibers.
} Microscopy Research and Technique 27 459 - 467 (1994).
}
}
} ACETYLCHOLINE RECEPTOR
}
} The acetylcholine receptor is responsible for transduction of the nerve
} impulse to muscular contraction. The receptor lies at the neuromuscular
} junction in the muscle membrane. It has five subunits denoted as
} a1,a2,b,d,g. Current work in our lab involves labeling different
} subunits with monoclonal antibodies against defined defined sequences
} in order to determine the subunit arrangement (which appears to
} still be a matter of debate in spite of the considerable
} work done in other labs). We are using two dimensional crystalline
} tubes in order to determine the location of the labels.


} Interested individuals please contact

} E-mail: Bob-at-befvax.Uchicago.Edu
}
} } Robert Josephs
} The University of Chicago
} 920 East 58th Street
} Chicago, IL 60637
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From: Dr P. Echlin :      pe13-at-cus.cam.ac.uk
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 09:53:28 +0000 (GMT)
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I am by no means an expert in this field but I understand there is a
process known as Electron Beam energy filtering. You might try this as it
could take out all the nasty bits and may clean the electron beam.Patrick
Echlin
Cambridge UKOn Tue, 20 Feb 1996, L.D.Marks wrote:

} I have been persuaded (now to my regret) to give a talk about
} electron beam cleaning. Having posted requests for information to a number
} of logical sources (e.g. the surface science listserver) and only recieved
} information requesting that I send THEM anything useful, let me try here -
} at least we use electron beams! Has anyone heard of this and know any
} useful references or links ?
}




From: John M. Libert :      jlibert-at-cpcug.org
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 06:54:28 -0500
Subject: Re: external computer drives

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EmLab wrote:
}
} Hi all,
}
} A fellow researcher is interested in purschasing either a SyQuest drive or a
} Zip drive. Are there any of you kind folks out there that have either/both.
} Any comments regarding either system will be much welcomed.
}
} If this subject has been discussed before, please accept my apoligies(sp).
}
} Thanks,
} Ed Calomeni
} Dept Pathology
} Medical College of Ohio
} Toledo, OH 43699
} emlab-at-opus.mco.edu

Syquest drives are fine, but media will cost about the same as for
rewritable magneto-optical media ($200 / cartridge). Syquest, of course,
is comparatively lower priced than magneto-optical. However, for serious
image storage, Pinnacle Micro's 4.6 GByte M/O drive is great! At around
$1700 it is more than a Syquest, but when one considers the cost of
media, may actually be quite economical. I will send you additional
information via mail.

John Libert




From: John M. Libert :      jlibert-at-cpcug.org
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 07:05:27 -0500
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EmLab wrote:
}
} Hi all,
}
} A fellow researcher is interested in purschasing either a SyQuest drive or a
} Zip drive. Are there any of you kind folks out there that have either/both.
} Any comments regarding either system will be much welcomed.
}
} If this subject has been discussed before, please accept my apoligies(sp).
}
} Thanks,
} Ed Calomeni
} Dept Pathology
} Medical College of Ohio
} Toledo, OH 43699
} emlab-at-opus.mco.edu

Regarding my last message about Pinnacle Micro magneto-optical drives,
you can check out Pinnacle at http://www.pinnaclemicro.com.

John Libert




From: :      VFN6T-at-DMT03.mcc.Virginia.EDU
Date: 25 Feb 96 10:58:10 EST
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Dear Colleagues,
I am using plastic-embedded (Lowicryl or JB-4) sections of fetal kidneys
and would like to use standard avidin-biotin-peroxidase techniques for
immunohistochemistry. To date, we are unable to achieve specific staining.
We have tried two different etching protocols and a few of the JB-4 (but none
of the Lowicryl) sections survive, but still no staining. Most references
give little information regarding incubation times, etc. Can anyone help me
trouble-shoot or point me towards a good reference? Thanks in advance.
Victoria F. Norwood, M.D.
Department of Pediatrics
University of Virginia
vfn6t-at-dmt03.mcc.virginia.edu





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From: levin-at-ecsuc.ctstateu.edu (Martin Levin)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 13:08:46 -0600
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Ed,
I have the SyQuest EZ135 at home. I've had no problems with it at
all. Access time is fast (the manufacturer claims it is significantly
faster than the Zip drive). As a matter of fact, its so fast that I use it
as a working hard drive. The 135 Mb cartridges are about $23.00 each (less
if you buy in bulk). It is also quite small; about the size of an external
CD ROM drive. I have never used a ZIP drive, so I can't make any real
comparisons. I can only assure you that the EZ135 is a great little drive.


Marty

PS I don't work for or have stock in SyQuest.



} Hi all,
}
} A fellow researcher is interested in purschasing either a SyQuest drive or a
} Zip drive. Are there any of you kind folks out there that have either/both.
} Any comments regarding either system will be much welcomed.
}
} If this subject has been discussed before, please accept my apoligies(sp).
}
} Thanks,
} Ed Calomeni
} Dept Pathology
} Medical College of Ohio
} Toledo, OH 43699
} emlab-at-opus.mco.edu

Martin A. Levin
Department of Biology
Eastern Connecticut State University
Willimantic, CT 06226
Phone: (860)465-4324 FAX: (860)465-5213






From: oshel-at-ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Philip Oshel)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:00:03 -0600
Subject: Re: Dissolving polymerized acrylic?

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From Bob Citron:
} Hi Randy;
}
} I would suggest using methylene chloride. This works best for our PMMA
} (acrylic)lens products.
}
We have the same problem. The trouble with suggesting solvents like
MeChloride, Chloroform, or other such things is that the R.-J.
cryo-substitution unit is a good-sized piece of floor-occuping equipment,
and can't be put in a fume hood. I wouldn't particularly want to be in a
lab full of (e.g.) MeChloride fumes; we're exposed to enough toxins and
carcinogens as it is.
Any less noxious ideas?
Phil Oshel

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From: allardlfjr-at-ornl.gov (Larry Allard)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:26:37 -0500
Subject: external computer drives

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Ed:

Regarding which removable storage drive to choose: be advised that Iomega
Zips are outselling EZs all across the country by a large margin, and also
that every EZ drive sold by Syquest *loses* a significant sum ($50-$100)
for the company. Syquest recently announced such poor earnings (a loss of
about $3.00 per share) that they have *laid off 60% of their world wide
work force*. The media used for the Syquest cartridges is defective 270MB
disks (one side is used) and has *no chance* of becoming the next
"standard" which replaces the 1.4MB floppy, while there is an excellent
chance that the Zip 100MB disk *will* become the new standard. It is
expected by many that Syquest cannot continue to bleed money if they are to
remain a viable company, and may have to abandon the EZ as a competitive
product.

Our laboratory has adopted Zips almost universally (I know of only 1 EZ
locally), and to date all of our external users are following suit. Among
a 7 member group, we have 20 or more Zips either in the lab, our offices,
or at home. Check your local retailers (Circuit City, CompUSA, etc.) and
see what is selling. I think you will find that if you purchase a Syquest
EZ, you will become a member of a small minority, and will run the risk
that you have an obsolete drive that uses media which will not be
compatible with the future standard (whatever it may be). Of course, you
only risk a couple of hundred bucks, and 20 bucks per cartridge, so it is
not a large risk.....


good luck.

Larry
PS as I have posted here before, I *do* own (and continue to recommend)
Iomega stock, so do your own homework.... ;-)







From: baskin-at-biosci.mbp.missouri.edu (Tobias Baskin)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:05:05 -0600
Subject: Re: Immunohistochemistry in plastic

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} Dear Victoria,
Many antigens can be stained in JB-4 or Lowicryl without
etching of any kind. Many etching procedures are bad for antigenicity, so
you might try seeing what you get without etching at all.

And, you did not say if you were amining for light microscopy or
em. But if you are working in light microscopy and you find that you are
unable to get good staining from Lowicryl or JB-4, you might try the
removable methacrylate system. This is a mixture of methacryates without
crosslinker, so you can remove the resin nearly completely with a 10 min
incubation in acetone. We have had very nice results with this for
immunocytochemistry at the light level. If you are interested, I can
provide more details.

Cheers,
Tobias

} I am using plastic-embedded (Lowicryl or JB-4) sections of fetal kidneys
} and would like to use standard avidin-biotin-peroxidase techniques for
} immunohistochemistry. To date, we are unable to achieve specific staining.
} We have tried two different etching protocols and a few of the JB-4 (but none
} of the Lowicryl) sections survive, but still no staining. Most references
} give little information regarding incubation times, etc. Can anyone help me
} trouble-shoot or point me towards a good reference? Thanks in advance.


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From: oshel-at-ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Philip Oshel)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:52:11 -0600
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Allow me to add my voice to the chorus for Zip drives. I use one at
home, and it works well. Two points I haven't seen mentioned: the 100MB
discs aren't much larger (mostly thicker) than regular floppies, but are
rugged, and the drive itself is small enough to take with you if you
travel. Take the Zip Tools & Install discs with the drive & you can use
your Zip anywhere others have the same computer as you (Mac or DOS).
Phil Oshel

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From: Giorgio :      giocar-at-risc990.bologna.enea.it
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 10:41:43 +0100
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I'm looking for titres of books on BIOLOGY LABORATORY TECHNIQUES.
I opened a site for amateur scientists www.best.com/~funsci
and I need information about experimental techniques in biology,
microscopy, etc... suitables for scool or research applications.
Can you help me?
Please, send the answers here: funsci-at-best.com
Thanks George





From: David.Rothbard-at-ipst.edu (David Rothbard)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:34:22 -0500
Subject: Storage Media

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In the discussion of removable media I have not read anything about
"storage life" of data. Does anyone know about predicted life for
data/images stored on Syquest, Zip, CD, or magnetic tape cartridges? Will
all of these media require re-copying every five years to ensure data
integrity? That also begs the question as whether of any of these drives
will around in five years to read them.

David Rothbard

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From: Warren Straszheim :      wesaia-at-iastate.edu
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:27:12 -0600
Subject: Re: external computer drives

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Can't answer your question exactly. We have an internal Syquest drive and it
is rather old (3-years). We have come to question its reliability because
two of the drives had to be reformatted after about six months of use.

I have been pleased with the IOMEGA products. We have some older Bernoulli
drives around. One of the five drives we have apparently developed a sticky
mechanism after about 5 years, but otherwise has been good.

} A fellow researcher is interested in purschasing either a SyQuest drive or a
} Zip drive. Are there any of you kind folks out there that have either/both.
} Any comments regarding either system will be much welcomed.
}
} If this subject has been discussed before, please accept my apoligies(sp).
}
} Thanks,
} Ed Calomeni
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From: David.Rothbard-at-ipst.edu (David Rothbard)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:34:22 -0500
Subject: Storage Media

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From my reading it seems that magnetic media has an archival lifespan of about 10 years whereas data
archived on CD-ROM has an archival lifespan of 30 years. Since I plan on retiring in 25 years, my bet is to
archive on CD-ROM and not have to repeat the archival process every 8-10 years.

The upside of magnetic media is the speed at which you can archive I guess, the latest CD-R drives appear to
need about 40minutes to "burn" the data on disk.


Kevin McCarthy


Regarding lifespan of magnetic media, David Rothbard wrote:


In the discussion of removable media I have not read anything about
"storage life" of data. Does anyone know about predicted life for
data/images stored on Syquest, Zip, CD, or magnetic tape cartridges? Will
all of these media require re-copying every five years to ensure data
integrity? That also begs the question as whether of any of these drives
will around in five years to read them.

David Rothbard

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From: Beverly E Maleeff
Date: 26 Feb 96 13:58:16 EDT
Subject: Re: ISO9000 Certification

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FYI:
The MSA Technologists' Forum is sponsoring a Roundtable discussion at this
year's Microscopy & Microanalysis meeting in Minneapolis. The theme of the
roundtable is "Coping with Regulations: ISO and OSHA". As the session chair,
I'm glad to see this thread on the Listserver. I encourage everyone with an
interest in how regulations govern our lives in microscopy labs to attend this
session. Further details will be available prior to the meeting.

Regards,
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From: Paul Webster :      paul.webster-at-yale.edu
Date: 26 Feb 1996 12:27:11 -0500
Subject: Re: calculating area

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Don Chernoff writes
"Could someone explain how the overlay counting methods can give areas of
individual fibers?"

Cross-lattice overlays (see Weibel, E. R. 1979. Steeological methods, vol 1.
Practical methods for biological morphometry. Academic Press, New York.) are
transparent sheets which have grids (or lines) of known dimensions on them. A
simple overlay would be a square grid. For area counts, the corner of the grid
is taken to represent the whole square. Therefore if the points over the
structure to be sampled are counted this is the same as counting the number of
squares. On samples of properly randomized specimens, this is a very accurate
way of estimating area.

Since the sections that are sampled have a thickness, the area can also be used
to estimate volumes.

The test lines can also be used to accurately estimate length and thus surface
area.

Only small numbers of micrographs are required to do these analyses, counting
(unlike tracing) does not need to be accurate, and estimations can be rapidly
performed.







From: Walt Bobrowski (313) 996-7814 :      bobroww-at-aa.wl.com
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:29:11 -0400 (EDT)
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All interested persons in removable, mass storage medias should check out the
March issue of PC World. It includes a very comprehensive article on this very
topic including speed, storage capacity, durability, archival quality, etc.

Walt Bobrowski
Parke-Davis Research






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From: agoldsch-at-tamarugo.cec.uchile.cl (GOLDSCHMIDT DE LA MATTA ALFONSO)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 18:28:37 +0400
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Hello
I need information about,condition of analysis , about voltage,current,time deat, size of beam in Quantitative analysis and calibration
For analysis , in alluvial-gold (free gold).
For analysis on silicates .
Anybodi are using X-PHI software ? i have problem, with K alpha line and "K"
kalium .
My name is Alfonso Goldschmidt i am working in the University of Chile
in the GEOLOGICAL DEPARTAMENT.
I am working with the old microprobe CAMECA 46 and i am try of restart
the use, of this machine.

Thanks very much .




From: BARBARA.HARTMAN-at-1773.220.SCHERING-PLOUGH.sprint.com
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 16:46:47 -0500
Subject: EM of HCV protease

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I have been asked to do TEM and/or SEM on Hepatitis C virus protease. I
have a biology background that deals with tissues not crystals. They would
like to examine the crystal structure of this protease. I understand that
it does not form a pellet and does not separate out no matter how hard you
spin it. The concentration of the sample is approximately 1 mg/ml. Where
should I begin ???? Could I do an air dried sample for scanning ??

Thank You,

Barbara Hartman
Schering-Plough Research
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From: allardlfjr-at-ornl.gov (Larry Allard)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:37:15 -0500
Subject: media lifetime

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I agree that magnetic media has a lifetime of 10 years or so, whereas
optical media is far longer, say 30 years. However, I don't believe I have
*ever* accessed original data (say negatives) for any useful purpose even 5
years after original recording. Magnetic media has an overwhelming
advantage in daily usage, because of its speed, portability (the frisbee
test), and competitive price of media and drives. However, for the
convenience of our users, in our lab we record archival data (TEM images
etc) at present on CD-ROMs, and provide either Zips or CDs to our users to
carry their data home. But I certainly do not worry about how I will read
that archived data 25-30 years from now, because there is no question that
many generations of drive devices will supplant anything that is currently
available. We no longer use enlargers to print our negatives, but have
scanners that handle transparencies to use if we want to make some new
prints. When the time comes, we will transfer our archived images and
other data to the next generation of storage devices.

BTW, recently I installed a 400K diskette containing data from May 1984
recorded from my old 128K Macintosh. My Powerbook Duo288c running MacWrite
II opened a MacWrite file with no problem, and a recent version of MacPaint
opened an old MacPaint file. Of course, I had absolutly *no* interest in
any of that data after nearly 12 years.

Larry






From: baskin-at-biosci.mbp.missouri.edu (Tobias Baskin)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 10:07:19 -0600
Subject: LM/removable methacrylate

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Greetings,
I mentioned a removable methacylate system for immunocytochemistry
and several netters have asked me for more information. For this reason, I
am posting the reply publicly, in case others are interested as well.

The basic resin is simply a mixture of butyl and methyl
methacrylate (80% butyl). This was a resin much used in the em *before* the
invention of epoxies, and now generally abandoned. But with the upsurge of
immuno techniques at the light microscope level, several groups in the late
80's ressurected this simple resin system because it has the advantage of
being easily removed after sectioning by a brief rinse in an organic
solvent, such as acetone. Removablility is an advantage because you gain
great access for your antibody to your antigen. In this respect, the
removable methacylate system is like paraffin embedding; only with
methacrylate, the structural preservation of the sample is generally much
better than with wax. So, if you are going after sub-cellular detail, then
methacrylate could be the resin for you.

If this sounds interesting, here are some references:

Baskin et al 1992 Planta 187:405 - 403.
Gubler 1989 Cell Bio Int Rep 13:137-145.
Van de Kant et al 1988 Histochem J. 20, 335 - 340. (animal tissue).

A protocol where protein localizations and in situ RNA localizations are
done on alternate sections:
Kronenburger et al. 1993 Cell Biol Intern. 17: 1013-1021.

A few notes. We drive polymerization of the methacrylate with UV
light (a catalyst is added to the resin), and this is a free radical based
mechanism. We were only able to get this method to work reliably with plant
material by including 10 mM DTT in the resin. This seems to prevent
radicals from attacking the tissue but not to prevent them from doing their
polymerization thing.
Also, polymerization is inhibited by oxygen. In the reference to my
own work above, polymerization was done in flat molds in a box exposed to a
flow of nitrogen gas. We now do embedding in capsules, under normal air
with no problems.
Also, as far as practical details go, compared to what we published
in the Planta paper above, we have found that there is no need to put DTT
in the ethanol series for dehydration, and we can compress the entire
dehydration infiltration and embedding schedule to two days, rather than
six.

I hope the above helps. If anyone has questions about specific
steps or other details, please feel free to contact me.

Cheers,
Tobias



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From: vickie-at-MACC.WISC.EDU
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:25:12 -0600
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The Second Annual Symposium on

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on

September 20 - 22, 1996

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* 2-photon excitation imaging
* 4D DIC imaging
* Cryo-SEM
* High pressure freezing
* Reversible embeddment for SEM and TEM

Workshop attendence will be limited to 20 participants.

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This year's symposium will be co-hosted by :

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and

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From: paulc-at-arms.gps.caltech.edu (Paul K. Carpenter)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 16:35:12 -0800
Subject: Zip vs. Syquest (longish)

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Hi all,

In the analytical facility at Caltech we have used both the Syquest 44 Mb
and the Zip 100 Mb removable-cartridge units. I have also used a Syquest
270 Mb unit for a few days. My selection of these units has been based on
performance, speed, reliability, and cost of the media for outside users.

My observations (all these systems were used on primarily on Macintosh
systems, except as noted):

1. The Syquest 44 became an early standard among the Macintosh crowd, many
people had them and they were used to transfer all sorts of software, data,
digital images, etc. The MAS computer workshop sort of settled on this
format for about 2-4 years, and we could count on being able to transfer
things with our collegues. The units were nearly bulletproof with a few
exceptions. Cartridges formatted on your unit at home could potentially
have problems on another drive if the head alignment differed drastically.
I observed this fewer than 3 times in the 5 years I have used these units.
As far as reliability, I have two units that were on continuously for about
5 years with no problems. The units are loud and noisy, but have speeds
rivaling older hard drives. The 44 Mb format is essentially history now,
although many have $$ invested in cartridges (I have 45 of them...being
consolidated onto Zip 100's now). There have been other formats available
(88Mb, 105Mb, 200Mb, 270Mb), and I think the 270 Mb format is the only one
that has achieved any kind of "standard" status.

Which reminds me to comment on the "longevity of media xyz". I think that
currently the technology is evolving more rapidly than the useful life of
any given media. For example, I have some Apple II disks with some
important stuff on them, but there are no Apple II's around here...so even
though the media is still (probably) ok, I don't have access to the devices
used to read/write this information. Same goes for all the DEC floppy
disks, RL02 platters, TK50 tapes...etc. The bottom line is that we now
have the obligation to periodically transfer *all* our important archived
data to the current "standard" which (probably) won't be in use 10 years
from now. The question "will the data on a floppy be readable 25 years
from now" is just plain academic, because those floppy drives will be found
only in the Smithsonian. The worst part is that by the time you *realize*
that you have archaic media, you find that it is obsolete in the sense that
you cannot find a system to read it on. And as the capacity of media ever
increases, so does the possiblity of losing really large sets of data. But
this is a discussion best held over a few beers, I guess :)

2. The Syquest 270 is nice, but I found the unit to be very noisy, and the
ejection lever felt as if it was going to break off every time I used it.
The quality level is not what I would expect (but bear in mind this is a S
270 mechanism in some vendors box, so the packaging quality and noise level
may vary by manufacturer). I had an insurmountable level of difficulty
trying to format and *mount* PC-format 270 disks on my Powermac 8100.
There are a number of drivers out there, all advertising that they mount
everything, but few of them actually do the job. In our facility we have
mostly Mac users, but some PC users, so we must be able to provide both
formats.

3. I have had a Zip 100 Mb unit for about 9 months. It is quiet, fast and
almost trouble free (a pre-formatted cartridge refused to mount and had to
be reformatted; I have not had this problem with any other disks). I
observed roughly similar levels of performance for a Zip 100 on a 486 PC
(parallel port) and the SCSI version on a Powermac 8100; they both rival
hard drive speeds. Using the Iomega driver software on the Mac, the disks
can be either formatted for the Mac, or by using the 'erase disk' menu on
the Mac, a disk can be PC formatted, so this unit essentially solves the
Mac-PC format problems that the Syquest units apparently have more
difficulty with (I'm not an expert here, just giving you my experience).

The Zip unit is nice because it has auto mount and auto eject features.
Put the disk in the unit and it appears on the Mac desktop; drag it to the
trash and it dismounts and ejects. The Syquest units require fooling
around with that eject lever, and novices nearly always seem to want to
eject the cartridge before it is dismounted (and therefore spun down -- a
good way to damage the disk). This is a matter of convenience, but it adds
up over the years in cumulative hassle factor.

There are caveats with the Zip 100 unit. There is no power on/off switch,
just a 12 volt converter plug and line cord, so the unit must be left on
all the time unless you set up a power strip and use that switch to turn
the thing on and off. The unit has only SCSI device numbers 6 and 7
available, which may cause ID conflict problems on some systems, but has
not been a problem with our setup.

Perhaps one of the biggest limitations is for those who plan to use the Zip
100 for backup rather than just external storage. My understanding is that
you can only backup 100 Meg maximum with the Iomega backup software (i.e.
100 Meg maximum as a contiguous save set), so you are out of luck if you
have a larger hard drive (which almost everyone has now). So you would
have to do a backup manually.

4. The Iomega Jaz drive (about $500-600 for the drive, 1 Gig cartridge
about $90) sounds like the best solution for our facility, where users can
amass lots of digital images and analytical data. I have not seen one in
action.

5. I just started seeing ads for another Iomega cartridge drive on tv (not
the Zip, and not the Jaz, and I forget the name). Does anyone know about
this?

From my experience base, I would recommend the Zip 100 for the super cheap
external storage solution -- when it becomes history, we will not have
invested big bucks and can simply copy to a new system and move on. The
Jaz drive sounds good for those with bigger storage needs, and I anticipate
getting one if there are no bad reviews. I was a long time Syquest fan,
but I'm not convinced that they are in for the long haul anymore, and have
been really sluggish to respond to the Iomega market pressure. Syquest has
no competition for the Jaz drive that I know of...

Remember that one of my main priorities is to offer cheap high capacity
media to users of the facility, some of whom come to visit only once and
need to take all their data away with them. More expensive fancy optical
disks etc. are not reasonable to ask these people to purchase, because they
have to go read all this data back at their lab on an equivalent system.
So my decision for external storage automatically commits others to
purchasing the same hardware. A cd writer would be great, but these are
still expensive relative to the cheap Zip solution (for example).

My opinions only, and I have not the slightest financial interest in any of
this, except as a consumer. I'd rather go flying than pay big money for
storage media!

Paul Carpenter


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From: allardlfjr-at-ornl.gov (Larry Allard)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 21:26:53 -0500
Subject: Ditto drives

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Paul Carpenter:} } I just started seeing ads for another Iomega cartridge
drive on tv (not the Zip, and not the Jaz, and I forget the name). Does
anyone know about this? { {

Paul:

I'm jealous; you have probably seen the new TV ad blitz by Iomega which
highlights the Ditto Easy 800 tape drives. These drives offer 800 MB for
about $149, and have elegant software which continually backs up your work
even while you are on-line, as I understand. Since Iomega can make plenty
of these, the supply pipeline is easily kept filled, and even though they
are the hottest selling tape backup these days, Iomega has initiated an
advertising campaign to establish their name (sort of like Intel Inside) in
the data storage area, prior to future advertising for Zip and Jaz when
they become more plentiful. I haven't used the Ditto drive as yet, but
plan to purchase one for each of my 3 Macs at home. The Zip travels around
with me at present. At the lab, we have networked tape backup which is
done automatically every night. I think the drives are Colorado units,
which are currently being outsold by the new Dittos. There is also a Ditto
Easy 3200 which offers 3.2MB for about $450, for those with more formidable
backup needs.

BTW, enjoyed your post.

Larry






From: GVKM07A-at-PRODIGY.COM (DR CHARLES A GARBER)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 23:10:42 EST
Subject: ISO Guide 25 Accreditation: Experience

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Bob Craig wrote:



} The first question that one must ask is why do I need registration,
} certification or accreditation? The answer to this question is
usually
} market driven, at least it was in our situation.

Bob is quite right about everything that he said, however there are
still more reasons why one might want to get accredited.

Let me give some additional reasons:

1] As an independent laboratory, our big fear is professional
liability risk. It is, I am convinced a generally under appreciated
risk, but anyone offering professional opinions and advice, including
microscopy, takes on a certain greater-than-zero risk. Sometimes the
risk can be considerable especially if you have an unhappy client. I
have found in our own analytical laboratories that having the A2LA Iso
Guide 25 accreditation in place is the cornerstone of the very best
loss prevention program imaginable. It sets the standard for quality
and excellence, and there are outside inspectors who come in once every
two years to make sure that all procedures are being followed.

Now this will not guarantee that one won't be sued, but the program
surely does eliminate a good many of the weak spots that exist in the
typical microscopy laboratory operation. Although I might beg, cajole,
encourage, talk nice, talk harsh to certain individuals in our
laboratories, nothing has more impact than having that outside assessor
say the same thing as part of an audit!

2] For those in the laboratory analytical (services) business, from an
insurance and underwriting standpoint, we have found that to whatever
degree we incur costs associated with the accreditation, at least some
of those costs come back to us by way of reductions in the premiums
paid for our professional liability insurance.

3] Furthermore, since the A2LA accreditation and adherence to ISO
Guide 25 is entirely consistent with any good TQM process, to the
degree that the accreditation makes our TQM approach that much more
effective, our cost of rework goes down.


There is a bottom line here that might come as a surprise: At least in
our case, there does not seem to be any "net" cost to become
accredited. Whatever money is spent to become accredited, and to fill
out the extra paperwork, we believe it comes back to us "with
interest" by way of increased business (from clients where quality
really counts), lower insurance costs, and a smaller number of samples
that have to be done over again because they weren't done right the
first time.

Chuck

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From: Rui Costa :      ruicosta-at-esb.ucp.pt
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 10:41:21 +0000 (WET)
Subject: LM-Freeze Drying Technique

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Does any one knows any reference about Freeze Drying Technique, for
preparation of sections for LM ?

Thanks

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From: John M. Libert :      jlibert-at-cpcug.org
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:17:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Storage Media

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David Rothbard wrote:
}
} In the discussion of removable media I have not read anything about
} "storage life" of data. Does anyone know about predicted life for
} data/images stored on Syquest, Zip, CD, or magnetic tape cartridges? Will
} all of these media require re-copying every five years to ensure data
} integrity? That also begs the question as whether of any of these drives
} will around in five years to read them.
}
} David Rothbard
}
} --
} Institute of Paper Science and Technology

Pinnacle Micro claims 30 years for its magneto-optical storage media.

John Libert




From: Owen P. Mills :      opmills-at-mtu.edu
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:38:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Mass Storage Media

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Hello,

I want to install a SyQuest drive (currently on a Mac) on a PC. Who, other
than SyQuest, sells an easy to use software driver package for that purpose?
Is any freeware available?

Thanks.


Owen P. Mills
Michigan Technological University
Metallurgical & Materials Engineering
Rm 512 MME Building
Houghton, MI 49931
906-487-2002
906-487-2934 FAX
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From: Richard Beanland +44 1327 356363 :      richard.beanland-at-gecm.com
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 13:20:05 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: RE: TEM prep

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Hello Pacqui,
we are a commercial lab doing TEM of semiconductors. We still use
'old' techniques, i.e. we don't use Ron Anderson's tripod polisher and 3M
diamond impregnated plastic polishing films. This is partly due to inertia,
and partly because of cost; we can make up to 10 cross-sections per day per
person just using a few glass slides and two polishing wheels. It would be
nice to upgrade to the tripod technique, but at the moment we can get by with
the cheap and cheerful method (and our charges to external customers are about
1/2 to 1/3 of most other labs). Our main weakness is imaging small devices -
an individual device below about 20um in size is very difficult to hit without
high precision polishing techniques. If you're intending to do individual
devices for failure analysis, then you will do better with the tripod
polisher; otherwise, you may do better using the money to employ someone to
make samples full-time. There are many stages in making a good specimen, and
the best samples come with practice!
We also make diamond TEM grids which are very useful for etching and
ion-milling III-Vs and II-VIs which need good cooling.


Regards,

Richard Beanland
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Northants
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UK
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 09:23:42 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: EM of HCV protease

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 10:02:13 -0700
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Does anyone know of a procedure for tuning vertical wavelength dispersive
spectrometers,
specifically JEOL WD spectrometers? These are older, 2-crystal
spectrometers on a 733.

Thanks

Mike Spilde
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From: Warren Straszheim :      wesaia-at-iastate.edu
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 16:55:02 -0600
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My thanks to all who replied to my question about leaving the filament
control knobbed turned up to the saturation point on our JEOL 840A (with W
filament). The consensus appears to be that there is no problem with the
practice.

Note to Bill T.,
We have been leaving our filament current knob turned up over days on
non-use and don't appear to be losing any filament life for it. Therefore,
it appears that the current is turned off internally when the high voltage
is turned off.

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From: huw-at-cemmsa.adelaide.edu.au (Huw Rosser)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 13:54:30 +1000
Subject: Used EM equipment

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G'day
Would anybody in EM land know of the addresses and contact numbers of
dealers in second hand (used) EM's and EM equipment anywhere, not just
Australia.
Reply directly to me if you can.

Huw Rosser
CEMMSA
The University of Adelaide
South Australia





From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 15:29:33 -0500 (EST)
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} ......Multiple Lines Removed.......
...... " " " .......

} Not true!
}
} The sputtering rate/cross-section at the SURFACE of a material
} is not the same as the displacement rate/cross-section in the bulk. The
} simple way to
} think about this is that a surface you only have ~ 1/2 the number of bonds
} that you have in the interior of a bulk. Thus the energy needed to remove a
} surface atom is LESS than that needed to remove one from the bulk. There
} is extensive literature on this unfortunatley, I don't have the references
} readily at hand here at home.
}
Dear Nestor,
In addition to removing the surface atom, do you not also create a
new surface atom from a previously buried atom? If a single atomic layer
were removed, wouldn't this be the equivalent of removing a single layer
from the bulk and rejoining the atoms? I guess if you could remove an atom
from the bulk, but not rearrange the remaining atoms, that would require
more energy. Is that what you mean by "remove one from the bulk"?
Yours,
Bill Tivol




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} I agree that magnetic media has a lifetime of 10 years or so, whereas
} optical media is far longer, say 30 years.



Dear Larry, list, et. al,

I remember an article in Scientific American about a year ago
which mentioned responsible estinates that were MUCH MORE PESSIMISTIC:

and on the order of 2 years for tape, 5 years for magnetic disk and
about 10 years for CD.

Todays recording densities make for far more fragile records.
in the "old days" ten years ago, the energy used to store each bit was 10's
of 1000's (!!) times greater than that used today. RAM designers, as a
paralell example, are discussing quantum limits ( 1 electron) of data
cells.

This is NOT a simplistic topic, but one lying under layers and layers of
systems design.

Regards,



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From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
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} Now a question,
} We have adopted the practice of leaving the filament current control on our
} JEOL 840A at the proper saturation point (for our normal 15 kv operating
} point) and just turning off the high voltage control for exchanging samples.
} [snip] My question to
} the list is whether there might be any adverse consequences from this
} practice as there do not appear to be any.

Dear Warren,
I assume the filament can be switched off with the current control
in the appropriate position, as is the case for our EM's. If so, there will
be no adverse effect for W, and presumably LaB6. If the filament is still
drawing current with the HV off, there should only be the effect on filament
lifetime equal to the number of cumulative hours of specimen exchange and
the occasional disaster when the filament is not turned off over a weekend.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




From: peggy-at-research.nj.nec.com (Peggy Bisher)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 14:03:03 -0400
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We need to calibrate our Gatan heating holder.

Could anyone suggest suitable standard specimens that will help us
calibrate the holder at temperatures up to 800 Celsius?

Many thanks,



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From: dshubito-at-d.imap.itd.umich.edu (Dennis Shubitowski)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 13:04:18 -0500
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Has anyone successfully "unstuck" Polaroid Type 55 negatives
that have stuck together while drying? A water soak did not
seem to help nor did Photoflo.

Thanks,

Dennis Shubitowski
University of Michigan
School of Dentistry






From: philf-at-NEWTON.UMSL.EDU (Philip Fraundorf)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:19:13 -0600
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 15:02:47 -0500
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Thank you to everyone who responded to my request for critical point drying
references and information.

Jim Romanow
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From: Sally Shrom :      sally-at-retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 15:49:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: LM and EM tech schools

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Posted-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 15:58:08 -0500

Are there any 2 year tech schools in the Philadelphia area?
Sally Shrom




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From: evansnd-at-ornl.gov (Neal D. Evans)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 08:57:43 -0500 (EST)
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Peggy,

There is a straightforward way of calibrating local specimen temperatue when
using a heating holder:

D. C. Paine, D. J. Howard, and N. D. Evans, "In Situ TEM Studies of the
Effect of Misfit Strain on the Kinetics of Si1-xGex Solid Phase Epitaxy:
Temperature Calibration & Surface Effects," Electron Microscopy 1992: Proc.
50th Annual Meeting of the Electron Microscopy Society of America, G. W.
Bailey, J. Bentley, and J. A. Small, eds., San Francisco Press, (1992), 1344-45.

To summarize, the thermocouple provides an accurate measure of the furnace
temperature. However, actual specimen temperature, as a function of furnace
temperature, will vary (at best) slightly from specimen to specimen. This
is due to differences from specimen to specimen in the conduction path, that
is, differences in contact resistance at the furnace/specimen interface as
well as specimen geometry affects.

Specimens having cracks or other features which would restrict or alter heat
flow will have greater uncertainty associated with actual temperatures.

Regards,

Neal





From: Krueger, Eugene :      krueger.eugene-at-mayo.edu
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 16:01:01 -0600
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Hello All

Help!

I have been injecting cultured hepatocytes with antibodies and I am seeing
interesting morphological changes on the LM. I now need to prepare injected
cells for the TEM (not a problem). I am wondering what electron dense
material(s) could be included in the injectate to show that a particular cell
was injected (I want non-injected cells included on the coverslip as
controls). The material must not interfere with good specimen appearance,
and it also must be injectable (not toxic or clog my needles). Any help will
be greatly appreciated!!!



Thanks in advance!
Eugene Krueger
Mayo Foundation
GI Research
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From: sbarlow-at-sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Steve Barlow)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:16:48 -0800
Subject: TEM;phosphate ppt in seawater

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Howdy all

a user brought me a sample of gelatinous unicellular algae she
preserved in 2% phosphate buffered glutaraldehyde. Unfortunately, it was a
marine sample, so when she fixed it, the salts in the seawater
precipitated. She can't repeat the experiment. Any way to salvage her
sample--i.e., separate the cells from the ppt, or get the salts back into
soln without detroying the cells? We appreciate that the precipitation may
have ruined her cell preservation as well, but we won't know for sure till
we can embed and section.

thanks in advance

steve

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From: richard.easingwood-at-stonebow.otago.ac.nz (Richard Easingwood)
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:47:49 +1100
Subject: SEM: Microwave fixation of articular cartridge

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Has anyone on the List had any experience with microwave fixing /processing
of articular cartilage for scanning electron microscopy?

We have a user wishing to do this and so we can't find any references to
this technique.

If anyone can help with ideas or protocols we would like to hear from you.

Thank you very much.

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 15:06:19 -0500 (EST)
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} Hi Mark;
}
} [snip] but are you sure you don't have
} aluminum present? I would do a couple of things to check this;
}
} 1) Collect a "blank" spectrum of the matrix and see if you get a peak at
} 1.49 keV. If you do, you either have some aluminum in the matrix,

To add a bit to Bob's reply, Br has an L-peak overlapping the Al
K-peak. Although it is likely that a peak at ~1.49 keV is Al, check the
10-20 keV range for other peaks at the Br K alpha & beta positions. I
have seen sediments with Al and no Br in one grain and Br in a nearby grain.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




From: erik-at-uclink.berkeley.edu (Erik Pauls)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 20:59:54 -0800
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If you are using a Mac, there are several different resources as part of
NIH's Image freeware. I believe the best access is at
http://rsb.info.nih.gov/nih-image/ This is a very good program for image
manipulation for Macsters (that's why I'm posting to the list). A PC
version is in the works too.

I know that I've seen stereo pairs, of the red/green variety, discused in
the recent past. If there is nothing directly listed at NIH's web page
there is an Image list that should have archives. The listproc address is
LISTPROC-at-SOILS.UMN.EDU, and the list is NIH-IMAGE. (Cap.s not necessary.)

Erik
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 22:59:30 EST
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On Feb. 28, Sally Shrom wrote:


--Subject: LM and EM tech schools
}
} Are there any 2 year tech schools in the Philadelphia area? Sally
Shrom

I would suggest you contact the following:

West Chester University
West Chester, PA 19380

Attn: Prof. Arthur Smith
Dept. of Geology

e-mail: asmith2-at-wcupa.edu

They have an outstanding program, Prof. Smith has been doing this for
some years and his students have no difficulty finding jobs, even in
today's difficult job climate.

Hope this helps. BTW, no connection here with West Chester University!

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From: Gib Ahlstrand :      giba-at-puccini.crl.umn.edu
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:17:57 -0600
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In message {v02120d01ad5a491be151-at-[141.211.157.94]} Dennis Shubitowski writes:
} Has anyone successfully "unstuck" Polaroid Type 55 negatives
} that have stuck together while drying? A water soak did not
} seem to help nor did Photoflo.
}
} Thanks,
}
} Dennis Shubitowski
} University of Michigan
} School of Dentistry
}
}

Dennis, Yes, I have successfully unstuck pairs of Polaroid negs. Actually, the
water soak will work, but you have to soak them for a long time, at least
overnight, say 12-16 hours. Then you have to slowwwwwwwly pull them apart to
avoid pulling the emulsion off. A "pucker" mark may remain where they were
joined, but usually its translucent so that a positive print will seldom reveal
the pucker mark, especially on "busy" image detail, and as long as original
image density was not disturbed.

When this happens to my negs, its usually in a spot no larger than the size of a
quarter (25 cent piece). If its most of the area of the negs, that is serious
trouble.

When I dry Polaroid negs in racks, I skip slots so that there is lots of space
between adjacent negs to prevent sticking from occuring as the negs "wiggle" as
they air dry.


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From: Steven D. Majewski :      sdm7g-at-Virginia.EDU
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:31:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: media lifetime

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On Tue, 27 Feb 1996, Ed Monberg wrote:

} } I agree that magnetic media has a lifetime of 10 years or so, whereas
} } optical media is far longer, say 30 years.
}
} Dear Larry, list, et. al,
}
} I remember an article in Scientific American about a year ago
} which mentioned responsible estinates that were MUCH MORE PESSIMISTIC:
}
} and on the order of 2 years for tape, 5 years for magnetic disk and
} about 10 years for CD.
}

Also, you should read the 'fine print' when it comes to statements
about media lifetime estimates. DAT DDS tapes, for example, have
a 10 year estimated lifetime. What that actually means is that if
you use a tape once to record and put it on a shelf in a temp. and
humidity controlled environment, you are likely to be able to
read it back in 10 years. Divide that by some factor if stored
under less than ideal conditions. I was interested in archival
use, rather than backups, where I may need to read back the data
many times over that decade. Ask about how many passes of tape
over the heads, including rewinding and forwarding, the tape is
rated for, and you get a figure that may translate into only a
few years of use (depending).

Data format is another problem. I think the ISO CD-ROM standard is
in wide enough use to rely upon, but for magneo-optical disks,
my experience has been that changing SCSI controller, operating
system or other software, even ( with our Pinnacle MO drives )
chaning from one version of DOS to another, is enough to make
the data effectively unreadable. ( The documentation necessary
to write a program to retrieve that data is available, but not
from Pinnacle -- we had to talk to their suppliers to get any
useful information. ) I was also told by Pinnacle that they
had changed suppliers for their SCSI controller cards, and if
we bought a newer model, they would not guarantee that we would
be able to read old data on the new drive. I don't know that
Pinnacle is any worse that any other supplier -- that's just
who I had my unhappy experience with. However, none of the
salespeople will bring up the subject, and few will even understand
your concerns, if you try to ask them how likely you are to be
able to read your data 10 years from now.


ISO 9660 CD format and 'tar' files on DDS tapes (in that order)
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From: Mount, Richard :      MOUNTR-at-hermes.is.sickkids.on.ca
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 08:50:00 -0500
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{Text_1}
Dennis Shubitowski asked "Has anyone successfully "unstuck"
Polaroid Type 55 negatives that have stuck together while
drying?"

I have had limited success with an overnight Photoflo soak
followed by ultrasonication. Films stuck emulsion to film
back seem to separate easier than those stuck emulsion to
emulsion.

------------------------------------------------------------
Richard J. Mount Phone: 416-813-6551
Auditory Science Laboratory
Department of Otolaryngology FAX: 416-813-5036
The Hospital for Sick Children
555 University Ave.
Toronto, ON, Canada M5G 1X8

e-mail:richard.mount-at-mailhub.sickkids.on.ca




From: Joe D Geller :      geller-at-world.std.com
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:42:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Science Fair Projects- Grade 8

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My family would be gratefull for suggestions involving the SEM. We are
thinking about putting iron and stainless steel strips into various pH
solutions to measure material loss and corrosion. SEM photos of the etch
pits should make good illustrations.

Do you metallurgical/material science types have any suggestions to
help? pH choices, time of exposure, how to introduce oxygen to enhance
corrosion, etc.

Thanks,
Joe Geller
Geller MicroAnalytical Lab
426e Boston St.
Topsfield, Ma 01983-1216
508 887-7000 fax 887-6671




From: Cheri Owen :      cowen-at-cmb.biosci.wayne.edu
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 11:33:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Used EM equipment

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On the subject of used EM equipment, we have an old Phillips TEM that we
were considering putting up for sale. We were unsure whether there would
be any demand for these instruments. (It needs a new condenser lens).
I'm not sure of the model number, but I can get specifics if anyone is
interested.

Cheri Owen
Detroit Neurotrauma Institute
Wayne State University
Detroit, MI
313-577-4648




From: randy nessler :      rnessler-at-emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:01:09 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Origin of carbon? film?

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Hi All,
I have a sample that I need some help with. We have received some
samples that are from private homes. The residents are reporting a film (soot)
forming on the wall above heat registers, on windows, and settling on furniture.
These homes have newly installed high-effiency furnaces, and the question is
whether the deposits are from the furnace, or some other source. We have
analyzed some of the soot, and found it to be carbon with EDS. Now comes the
tough part, is it possible to determine the source of this carbon (whether it
comes from the burning of natural gas, a cigarette, or a candle). Any help in
sampling and analyzing techniques would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,

Randy Nessler
rnessler-at-emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu





From: W.L. Steffens :      STEFFENS.B-at-calc.vet.uga.edu
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:58:41 EST
Subject: Re: Software for Display of Stereo Pairs

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I have successfully done this on a PC and Mac using Adobe Photoshop and 2
appropriately parallaxed images. Both must be changed to RGB color, the
left (or zero degree) image saturated to red, and the other image
saturated to either green or blue. Copy one image to the clipboard and
then paste it to the other. Set the composite controls to 50% opacity
with preview on. Viewing the image through red/green glasses, you can
then properly register the pair.

It's a fairly crude technique, but it does work.

-=W.L. Steffens=-
Department of Veterinary Pathology
College of Veterinary Medicine
University of Georgia




From: Owen P. Mills :      opmills-at-mtu.edu
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 15:32:10 -0500
Subject: Replacement Bulbs for Vickers Microscopes

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Hello,

A colleague asked if I would submit this to the listserver.

snip..
} I am looking for replacement bulbs for 20-year old Vickers reflected light
} petrographic microscopes. The bulbs we have been using are encoded
} Phillips-Holland 13702C 6 volt 15 watt. Any help in locating such bulbs
} will be greatly appreciated.
snip..

Thanks in advance.

Owen
Owen P. Mills
Michigan Technological University
Metallurgical & Materials Engineering
Rm 512 MME Building
Houghton, MI 49931
906-487-2002
906-487-2934 FAX
opmills-at-mtu.edu





From: Owen P. Mills :      opmills-at-mtu.edu
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 15:32:10 -0500
Subject: Replacement Bulbs for Vickers Microscopes

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Hello,

A colleague asked if I would submit this to the listserver.

snip..
} I am looking for replacement bulbs for 20-year old Vickers reflected light
} petrographic microscopes. The bulbs we have been using are encoded
} Phillips-Holland 13702C 6 volt 15 watt. Any help in locating such bulbs
} will be greatly appreciated.
snip..

Thanks in advance.

Owen
Owen P. Mills
Michigan Technological University
Metallurgical & Materials Engineering
Rm 512 MME Building
Houghton, MI 49931
906-487-2002
906-487-2934 FAX
opmills-at-mtu.edu





From: lag-at-pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Lucille A. Giannuzzi)
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:42:34 -0500
Subject: grad student needed

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Graduate Student is Needed!!!

University of Central Florida
Dept. of Mech. and Aero. Eng.
Materials Science and Engineering Program

A M.S. or Ph.D. level graduate student is needed to perform research in the
area of thin films with applications in electronic materials in
collaboration with Lucent Technology (formerly AT&T Microelectronics).
Research will be performed on Campus at the University of Central Florida,
Orlando, and at the research facilities of Lucent also in Orlando.
Research may begin in the Summer 1996 semester. Please address
inquiries/resumes to:


*************************************************************************
Lucille A. Giannuzzi, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor

Materials Science and Eng. Program
Dept. of Mechanical and Aerospace Eng. phone (407) 823-5770
University of Central Florida fax (407) 823-0208
4000 Central Florida Blvd. email lag-at-pegasus.cc.ucf.edu
Orlando, FL 32816-2450 USA
*************************************************************************







From: Yi Huang :      yi_huang-at-QMGATE.ANL.GOV
Date: 29 Feb 1996 15:59:29 -0600
Subject: Mo aperture grids

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Subject: Time:3:40 PM
OFFICE MEMO Mo aperture grids Date:02/29/96

Hi,
I am looking for TEM grids with single hole of 0.8, 1.0 and 1.5 mm in diameter
and slot of 1x2 and 0.5x2 mm. I tried several vender and did not succeed.
Anybody know a source of these grids?
Thank you in advance for your help.

Yi Huang
Argonne National Lab/MSD 212
Argonne, IL 60439
tel: 708-252-5181
fax: 708-252-4798
yi_huang-at-qmgate.anl.gov





From: Yi Huang :      yi_huang-at-QMGATE.ANL.GOV
Date: 29 Feb 1996 16:00:27 -0600
Subject: Mo aperture grids

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Subject: Time:3:40 PM
OFFICE MEMO Mo aperture grids Date:02/29/96

Hi,
I am looking for Mo TEM grids with single hole of 0.8, 1.0 and 1.5 mm in
diameter and slot of 1x2 and 0.5x2 mm. I tried several vender and did not
succeed. Anybody know a source of these grids?
Thank you in advance for your help.

Yi Huang
Argonne National Lab/MSD 212
Argonne, IL 60439
tel: 708-252-5181
fax: 708-252-4798
yi_huang-at-qmgate.anl.gov





From: Warren Straszheim :      wesaia-at-iastate.edu
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:08:20 -0600
Subject: Re: Partitioning Hard Drives

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Partitioning becomes a balancing act. There are two rules to remember that
govern partitioning.

Rule 1 - You are allowed a maximum of 64K clusters per partition and each
cluster has to be a power of 2 bytes long, hence 2048, 4096, 8192, etc.

Rule 2 - About half a cluster (on the average) is wasted per file.

Now the balancing act - If you will be storing lots of small files then
small partitions are good in order to not waste too much space. But you want
large enough partitions to do you some good. Of course, most EM image data
files are quite large so that the number of clusters per file will be larger
and the fractional wasted space less. You will want a large partition just
to get a reasonable number of files on it.

There is also the hassle of trying to keep track of all the partitions.
System and application files can reside on one partition, smaller data files
on another, large image files on a third. But how do you use the remaining
partitions? Perhaps they can be used to assign a partition to each user.
However, I still have a PDP-11 system with a 170 MB drive (it was big back
then) which *had* to be partitioned into segments no larger than 32 MB. We
distributed users around as space was availabe. But it was hard to remember
where we put them without a good search utility (which we used).

Practically, we have three 850 MB drives in our group that I have
partitioned into 4 pieces each. We defined 1 127 MB segment for smaller data
files, and split the remainder up into 3 partitions of about 240 MB each;
one is used for system files, one for large images, and the third is used
for temporary projects but is mostly empty.

Hope this helps. BTW, Partition Magic caught my eye the other day. It would
be nice to adjust such things on the fly.

At 11:06 AM 2/28/96 -0800, you wrote:
}
} I have been following the CD thread etc. I thought someone might be
} interested in this: Bought a notebook with 800MB HD and the usual installed
} software taking up about 60 MB. Using Partition Magic 2.0, I was able to
} repartition the HD on-the-fly and created 500MB and 250MB partitions (42 MB
} reserved for suspend mode). In doing so, I recovered an extra 10 MB due to
} the smaller sector sizes used. That's a nice feature of PM in that it can
} change sector sizes on- the-fly. What I mean by "on-the-fly" is that you
} don't have to backup the HD, re-partition it, and then reinstall the
} software; you just run the software, create whatever partitions and sizes
} you want, and you are done. It can do a lot more than that but you can get
} information from the vendor.
}
} Since the sector size changes with partition size (the break points are at
} 128, 256, and 512 or some such numbers), has anyone partitioned a large HD
} into 128 MB drives for the greatest storage efficiency or are there down
} sides to that? Would be interested in hearing your thoughts on that.
}
} Disclaimer: I have no financial interest in PowerQuest (mfg. of Partition
} Magic).
}
} Damian Neuberger
} neuberd-at-baxter.com
}
----------------------------------------------------
Warren E. Straszheim
270 Metals Development, Ames Lab/ISU, Ames IA, 50011
Phone: 515-294-8187 FAX: 515-294-3091

E-Mail: wes-at-ameslab.gov (or: wesaia-at-iastate.edu)
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~iprt_info/cfce/ (re: coal)
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wesaia/marl/ (re: SEM)

coal characterization and processing
electron microscopy, x-ray analysis, image analysis
computer applications





From: South Bay Technology :      73531.1344-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: 29 Feb 96 18:53:20 EST
Subject: Re: Mo aperture grids

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Yi-

You may want to try SPI Supplies. They have a nice section on their TEM grids
which can be found on their WWW Site. You can reach it as follows:

WWW: http://mail.cccbi.chester.pa.us/spi/spihome.html

Good Luck!

Best regards-

David Henriks TEL: 800-728-2233 (toll-free in USA)
South Bay Technology, Inc. 714-492-2600
1120 Via Callejon FAX: 714-492-1499
San Clemente, CA 92673 USA e-mail: 73531.1344-at-compuserve.com
sbt-at-msa.microscopy.com

Manufacturers of Precision Sample Preparation Equipment and Supplies for
Metallography, Crystallography and Electron Microscopy.





From: emccjb-at-ttuhsc.edu (Charles J. Butterick)
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 11:48:03 -0600
Subject: Re: Locating injected cells on TEM

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I worked with an electrophysiologist who used procion brown. Didn't seem
to harm the ultrastructure but did make the cells more electron dense than
the surrounding retinal neurons. Ken-iche Naka would stick and record
retinal neurons with a dye loaded micropipette. Once the recording was
done, then he injected the dye into that cell. Recovering the cells was a
bit arduous.


} Hello All
}
} Help!
}
} I have been injecting cultured hepatocytes with antibodies and I am seeing
} interesting morphological changes on the LM. I now need to prepare injected
} cells for the TEM (not a problem). I am wondering what electron dense
} material(s) could be included in the injectate to show that a particular cell
} was injected (I want non-injected cells included on the coverslip as
} controls). The material must not interfere with good specimen appearance,
} and it also must be injectable (not toxic or clog my needles). Any help will
} be greatly appreciated!!!
}
}
}
} Thanks in advance!
} Eugene Krueger
} Mayo Foundation
} GI Research
} krueger.eugene-at-mayo.edu



Charles J. Butterick (Chuck)
Electron Microscopy Center
Department of Cell Biology
and Biochemistry
Texas Tech University Health
Sciences Center
3601 4th Street
Lubbock, Texas 79430

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