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From: azriel gorski :      azrielg-at-cc.huji.ac.il
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 08:24:52 +0200 (GMT+0200)
Subject: Re: cover slip thickness

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} Hi,
}
} I have a question about the importance of cover slip thickness. Namely,
} how important is it to use a cover slip thickness for which the
} objective
} is designed? For example, if I'm using a 40X, NA 1.3 oil immersion
} objective which has the number 0.17 on it (corrected for a 170 micron
} cover slip thickness), what would be the effect on image quality if I
} used a cover slip with, say, a 300 micron thickness?

It is important. You are using a precision optical instrument and
the cover slip is an indespensible part of the optical correction. Since
you are using an oil immersion objective at 40 X (with oil I hope) it
appears you want as much defined and clear detail as posible. Using any
lense above about 40 X you can see the difference between #1 cover slips
(0.13 to 0.17mm thick), #1 1/2 coverslips (0.16 to 0.19mm thick), and #2
cover slips (0.17 to 0.25mm thick). Now having said that, there is an
assumption implicit in that. That is that the sample adhears directely to
the underside of the coverslip. So don't "flood" with mounting medium.

As an asside, I know one microscopist who measures his coverslips with a
micrometer and only uses the ones which are actually 0.17mm.

} Also, what is the definition of "working distance?" I understand it to
} be the distance between the top of the cover slip and the lens of the
} objective, but I want confirmation of this definition.

You are basically correct.... to be a "sticler" it is the nearest part of
the lense, not any optical center of it.

}
} Thank you very much,
}
} Brian Haab
} U.C. Berkeley
} bhaab-at-zinc.cchem.berkeley.edu
}

Good luck,

Shalom from Jerusalem,
Azriel

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Division of Identification and Forensic Science
Israel National Police
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From: Mary Mager :      mager-at-unixg.ubc.ca
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 16:52:57 -0800
Subject: Re: hand care for microscopists

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Dear James,
Most microscopists have white, nylon gloves used for handling high vacuum
parts, which also cannot tolerate fingerprints. They are comfortable and
breathe and do not shed much lint. Try an EM catalogue.
You wrote:
}
}
} Here's a new thread. Hand care for microscopists.
}
} I spend most of each day preparing and analyzing samples using light
} microscopy and FT-IR microscopy. Fingerprints are more than a nuisance,
} so its frequent trips to the sink for a little soap and water. In the
} winter I find my fingertips become dry and cracked. Lotion is out during
} work hours. Cotton gloves shed linters. Finger cots provide some relief.
}
} Anybody have other suggestions?
}
} James "Fingers" Martin :)
} Williamstown Art Conservation Center
}
Regards,
Mary





From: Paul E. Fischione :      paul.fischione-at-internetmci.com
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 05:35:47 -0500
Subject: Fw: Plasma Etching Procedure: A Different Opinion & Longish...

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With all due respect to the members of this Listserver, I do feel compelled
to provide additional insight into plasma processing and its related
effects on TEM specimens. This response is largely due to Dr. Nestor
Zaluzec's recent posting.

Both previous and recent experimentation clearly indicates effective
cleaning times for TEM specimens of as little as 15 seconds. This factor
is highly dependent on the type of plasma system used, since all plasma
types are not equivalent. For those of you that are interested, I would
suggest that you reference a book written by Michael A. Lieberman and Allan
J. Lichtenberg entitled "Principles of Plasma Discharges and Materials
Processing". It provides a great deal of insight into the various types of
plasma and their applications.

Regarding the gas type and concentration, we have conducted quantitative
measurements of contamination rates using Parallel Electron Energy Loss
Spectrometry which indicates equivalent performance of a one minute
processing time using a 25% oxygen 75% argon mixture, to a 5 minute
cleaning with argon followed by a 5 minute cleaning with 100% oxygen.

When one considers input power into the plasma, whether it is DC or high
frequency (HF), other factors such as chamber size and configuration, gas
type, plasma processing chamber pressure, electrode style and placement,
and Faraday shielding also provide significant contributions to the plasma
physics (ion energy, plasma potential, plasma density, electron
temperature, and floating potential).

In an non-equilibrium, inductively coupled plasma, increasing the high
frequency input power actually decreases the ion energy, which is the most
critical parameter for optimal plasma processing. When the proper
execution of plasma formation occurs, ion energies of {20 eV are achieved
which results in negligible specimen heating and no sputtering effects
either from or onto the specimen. On the reverse side, both sputtering and
oxygen ion implantation are very real possibilities when the ion energies
become excessive.

When considering the safety issues associated with pure oxygen, let us not
forget the utilization of pressure regulators certified for oxygen usage,
and the avoidance of oils in the pressurized portion of the system.

To conclude, I would be happy to discuss both any data that we have
obtained to date, and anyone's issues related to the plasma processing of
EM
specimens. At this juncture, I do believe that it would be most
appropriate to conduct these activities off the Listserver by contacting me
directly as follows.

Thank you for your consideration.

Best regards,

Paul

Paul E. Fischione, President
E.A. Fischione Instruments, Inc.
9003 Corporate Circle
Export, PA 15632
Phone 412-325-5444
FAX 412-325-5443
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From: Darrell Miles :      milesd-at-US.ibm.com
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:42:07 -0500
Subject: Re: SEM- IR Chamber Camera?

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We have GW Electronics chamber cameras on Hitachi and Jeol
SEM's. They work great. Just remember to turn the LED
illumination off for doing EDX work, as they affect the
EDX detector.

Darrell
(no connection, just satisfied customer)




From: bozzola-at-siu.edu (John J. Bozzola)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 00:30:10 -0600
Subject: Atomic Force MIcroscopes

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We seek information on atomic force microscopes for a future purchase.

Specifically information from:

(a) vendors: models available, capabilities and specs, housing requirements,
pricing, references of users, etc.

(b) individual users: models to avoid, positive experiences
with a particular model, maintenance, software available, etc.

I shall compile this information for others who may have similar interests.
Thank you.


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Center for Electron Microscopy
Neckers Building, Room 146 - B Wing
Southern Illinois University
Carbondale, IL 62901
U.S.A.
Phone: 618-453-3730
Fax: 618-453-2665
Email: bozzola-at-siu.edu
Web: http://www.siu.edu/departments/shops/cem.html
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From: ekurz-at-mail.ims.uconn.edu (Ed Kurz)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:37:39 -0500
Subject: Paper sample Preparation

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Does anyone have suggestions concerning how to prepare a sample of paper
laminated with Latex and Saran for examination by SEM/EDX, optical
microscopy and micro FTIR. Ideally I would like to observe the sample in
cross section with a surface similar in quality to those we prepare by
metallographic techniques. Simply cutting by razor smears the surface.
The sample was still ductile while submerged in LN2 so we could not obtain
a fracture surface. We have had some success cutting with razor while
under LN2 but there are still signs of smearing. We could microtome under
LN2. Does anyone have other suggestions concerning sample preparation? Are
metallographic techniques (embed, grind and polish) feasible? The embedding
material must not affect the sample.

Thanks in advance,

Ed Kurz
Institute of Materials Science, U-136
University of Connecticut
97 North Eagleville Road
Storrs, CT 06269-3136
ekurz-at-mail.ims.uconn.edu
(860) 486-4186 phone
(860) 486-4745 fax









From: Darrell Miles :      milesd-at-US.ibm.com
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 16:11:57 -0500
Subject: Re: SEM- IR Chamber Camera?

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I think the positioning of the camera depends on the reason you
have for using the camera. I have mine looking parallel to the
axis of stage tilt, just below the bottom of the pole piece. I
can see the gap between my sample and the pole piece as I raise
and tilt the sample. I can also see the proximity of the various
detectors to the sample. This saves on destroyed samples and
detectors!

Darrell.




From: Randi Olsen :      Randio-at-fagmed.uit.no
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 23:57:17 +0100
Subject: TEM Liposomes. Neg.staining.

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Dear fellow microscopists.

A young student working in my lab want to study some liposomes using
negativ staining.
So far with no luck. So if someone out there could help, we would be
most grateful.
Up til now she has used 2 %PTA pH 7.6 on formvar film coated with
carbon.
A suspension of liposomes is added on top of the grid, excess liquid
removed followed by PTA.
We have so far seen only the biggest liposomes, but it seems to be
difficult to 'catch' the solicited solution of small particles.

Tips n' tricks would be greatly appreciated.

Best wishes
Randi Olsen

Department of Electron Microscopy
Faculty of Medicine
University of Tromsoe, Norway

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From: Randi Olsen :      Randio-at-fagmed.uit.no
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 00:08:39 +0100
Subject: TISSUE PROSESSOR

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Dear all.
We are in the lucky situation in my department to have 'spare' money
this year, and want to replace our 'old' LKB Tissue Processor who
'died' earlier this fall.
It seems like the new RMC or the Lynx machine are the two most current
ones. It would be of great help if anyone would share their experiments
with us. I'm especially interested in the reliability of the plastic
tubes for the processors. We've had lots of problems with the LKB
because of lack of accuracy of the plastic ware.

Thanks in advance.

Randi Olsen
Department of Electron Microscopy
Faculty of Medicine
University of Tromso
Norway





From: Doug Keene :      DRK-at-shcc.org
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 00:26:57 -0600 (cst)
Subject: Re: TISSUE PROSESSOR

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Hi Randy...we have one of the RMC processors which is about
one generation old. Ours allows one to pre-cool (or
warm) the solution tube in which your sample will go
into next, as well as the current tube. The new
machine only controls the temperature of the current
tube (which has never made sense to me).

We like our machine and have had few problems. We
also had one of the previous machines with the LKB
nameplate (they were both made by the same company),
and the tubes, with very thin walls, would bend and
cause the specimen containing stacking rings to get
stuck and left behind. This would raise havoc in
the machine, with samples often getting mixed up. The
RMC tubes are thicker, and we have not experienced a
return of the problem. We are careful to put holes in
the caps when the solution tube contains a highly
evaporative solvent such as propylene oxide. We found
that the vapor pressure would dislodge the caps and
cause them to go askew. They would then not be lifted
off correctly and would topple into the machine,
invariably causing a jam.

I have no experience with the Lynx processor.

It must be nice to have extra money!

Good luck in your decision,

Doug
----------------------
Doug Keene
DRK-at-shcc.org






From: ScottE57-at-aol.com
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:36:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: help on picture-taking using a stereo microscope

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Check with your Zeiss rep. They used to make a stage platform that was
tiltable to correct for this problem for use with flat samples.

Scott E. Berman
Advanced Imaging Concepts
Princeton NJ
(609) 21-3629 x26
email: scotte57-at-aol.com




From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 97 23:38:29 -0500
Subject: Preparation of laminate for SEM examination

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-- [ From: Garber, Charles A. * EMC.Ver #3.1 ] --

Ed Kurz asked:
================================================
Does anyone have suggestions concerning how to prepare a sample of paper
laminated with Latex and Saran for examination by SEM/EDX, optical
microscopy and micro FTIR. Ideally I would like to observe the sample in
cross section with a surface similar in quality to those we prepare by
metallographic techniques. Simply cutting by razor smears the surface. The
sample was still ductile while submerged in LN2 so we could not obtain a
fracture surface. We have had some success cutting with razor while under
LN2 but there are still signs of smearing. We could microtome under LN2.
Does anyone have other suggestions concerning sample preparation? Are
metallographic techniques (embed, grind and polish) feasible? The embedding
material must not affect the sample.
===================================================
We have been cutting these kinds of samples for some years and have come to
the conclusion that there is only one "right" way! I am assuming you have a
"paper" substrate, one impregnated with latex and the whole layer is
laminated to a layer of "Saran". If the goal is to obtain the "perfect
cross-section" then this can be done only via the methods of ultramicrotomy,
using cryo techniques, and a diamond knife.

Our step by step procedure would be the following:
1] Sputter coat gold (or preferably Pt but gold is OK) on both sides, the
paper side to keep the embedding resin from interacting and possibly
dissolving some component in the paper substrate, or even swelling it and
the Saran (PVDF) side to act as a superb "decorator" to show the
Saran/embedding media interface.

2] We would recommend our own SPI-Pon(TM) 812 Epoxy Embedding Resin but a
good number of the other readily available Epon (R) 812 "substitute"
materials should work just as well, ones offered by other EM supply firms.
Epon Araldite(R) and perhaps other resin systems will "work" too, but the
"812" system seems to result in being able to obtain what you want in the
shortest possible period of time in terms of learning curve development.

3] Because paper has inorganics in it (e.g. clays, etc.), you surely don't
want to use a brand new life science knife to do the cutting. We would
recommend saving money and purchasing a materials science diamond knife for
this purpose. However, the availability of a beat up life science knife,
in need of resharpening, might be quite satisfactory (the quality of the
knife edge need not be to the standard as if you were to be looking at the
sections, but if the knife is too far gone, you will pick up an intolerable
number of defects on the final block you are going to examine.

4] In your case the sections would be thrown out. This brings tears to our
eyes since it has been our experience, for these kinds of laminated samples,
that the TEM results often times contain much more useful information than
the SEM results! But the "faced-off-block" is now the ideal sample for
insertion into the SEM (after some metallization or carbon coating).

5] When you look by SEM, you will not have any distortion or interaction of
the resin with the sample itself. You might be disappointed in the contrast
and to improve it, you might give it a 30 second oxygen plasma etching
exposure, so that the gold lines stand up in "relief" better highlighting
the location of your sample. If the latex is a polyBD type, then you can
expose the sample to osmium tetroxide which could provide additional
contrast to the sample, at least in terms of the penetration of the latex.

6] If you have either a "stone" or "fisheye" in either of the layers, if
you have successfully cut through the center of the defect, then it will be
ideally exposed for EDS, LM, or micro FT/IR analysis. Unlike the case if
you were to look at the lateral surface, in this instance, the defect is not
being covered up with anything.


This really is a straight forward procedure and has literally "worked" on
numerous samples of this and similar types.

Disclaimer: SPI Supplies offers embedding resins, materials science diamond
knives, and plasma etchers for doing this kind of work. So we would have a
vested interest in the promotion of this kind of approach.

Chuck

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From: DUNNTEM-at-aol.com
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 00:08:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: TEM Liposomes. Neg.staining.

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In a message dated 97-11-03 20:57:11 EST, you write:

{ { Subj: TEM Liposomes. Neg.staining.
From: Randio-at-fagmed.uit.no (Randi Olsen)

Dear fellow microscopists.

A young student working in my lab want to study some liposomes using
negativ staining.
So far with no luck. So if someone out there could help, we would be
most grateful.
Up til now she has used 2 %PTA pH 7.6 on formvar film coated with
carbon.
A suspension of liposomes is added on top of the grid, excess liquid
removed followed by PTA.
We have so far seen only the biggest liposomes, but it seems to be
difficult to 'catch' the solicited solution of small particles.

Tips n' tricks would be greatly appreciated.

Best wishes
Randi Olsen

Department of Electron Microscopy
Faculty of Medicine
University of Tromsoe, Norway

} }

I have a couple of suggestions:

1] Apply your suspension to the Formvar surface of the support film rather
than the carbon surface. You may 'catch' more of the particles that way.

2] Treat your support films with POLY-L-LYSINE before applying the liposome
suspension. To do this use a .01% aqueous solution of POLY-L-LYSINE.

Apply a drop to the carbon surface of the support film and after 5 mins
remove excess liquid.

Allow another five minutes for the surface to dry thoroughly (can be speeded
up by placing in an oven at 40 degrees centigrade for one minute).

Now apply your suspension and carry out the negative staining as before.

I am finding that the most stubborn material can be examined using this
process.

Good luck,

Ted Dunn




From: Majid Ghoddusi :      vp092327-at-student.uq.edu.au
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 15:09:00 +1000 (GMT+1000)
Subject: TEM: Problem with Spurr's resin (update)

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Some time ago I asked for advice on how to tackle our problem with
soft resin (see the following e-mail). I received numerous helpful hints
and advice which I am very thankful for. One particular advice I was
given (by Dr Bronwen Cribb, CMM, UQ) was to replace the alcohol in
dehydration series with acetone. Apparently, a small amount of alcohol
gets trapped in the block (why??) which causes some blocks to remain soft
at the end. The first series of specimens we did with acetone did not show
any problem. I thought it was worth sharing this with everybody.

Majid




+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dear All

We are doing TEM on cultured Koala lymphocytes. We are having an on going
problem with Spurr's resin (we use medium Spurr's). In some cases resin
doesn't get polymerised and stays soft even after 3-4 days in sixty degree
oven. The interesting point is that it doesn't happen with every sample.
Even in a series of different samples which are processed at the same
time and embeded in the same batch of resin, some remain soft while the
others are quite Ok.

We heard that some components of culture media may interfere with resin
polymerisation so we have been careful to wash the cultured cells properly
but it did not eliminate the problem. Any advice on how to tackle the
problem is highly appreciated. I would also be thankful if you suggest a
way to revive those samples which are embeded in soft resin.

Regards

M. Ghoddusi


Majid Ghoddusi
Division of Veterinary Pathobiology
The University of Queensalnd
QLD 4072
Australia

Tel: (07) 3365 2569
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From: Stephen A. Shaffer :      sshaffer-at-microdataware.com
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 22:39:45 -0800
Subject: Re: cover slip thickness

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azriel gorski wrote:
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} }
} } I have a question about the importance of cover slip thickness. Namely,
} } how important is it to use a cover slip thickness for which the
} } objective
} } is designed? For example, if I'm using a 40X, NA 1.3 oil immersion
} } objective which has the number 0.17 on it (corrected for a 170 micron
} } cover slip thickness), what would be the effect on image quality if I
} } used a cover slip with, say, a 300 micron thickness?
}
} It is important. You are using a precision optical instrument and
} the cover slip is an indespensible part of the optical correction. Since
} you are using an oil immersion objective at 40 X (with oil I hope) it
} appears you want as much defined and clear detail as posible. Using any
} lense above about 40 X you can see the difference between #1 cover slips
} (0.13 to 0.17mm thick), #1 1/2 coverslips (0.16 to 0.19mm thick), and #2
} cover slips (0.17 to 0.25mm thick). Now having said that, there is an
} assumption implicit in that. That is that the sample adhears directely to
} the underside of the coverslip. So don't "flood" with mounting medium.
}
} As an asside, I know one microscopist who measures his coverslips with a
} micrometer and only uses the ones which are actually 0.17mm.
}
} } Also, what is the definition of "working distance?" I understand it to
} } be the distance between the top of the cover slip and the lens of the
} } objective, but I want confirmation of this definition.
}
} You are basically correct.... to be a "sticler" it is the nearest part of
} the lense, not any optical center of it.
}
} }
} } Thank you very much,
} }
} } Brian Haab
} } U.C. Berkeley
} } bhaab-at-zinc.cchem.berkeley.edu
} }
}
} Good luck,
}
} Shalom from Jerusalem,
} Azriel
}
} ********************************************************
} Azriel Gorski, Head azrielg-at-cc.huji.ac.il
} Optical Microscopy Laboratory
} Division of Identification and Forensic Science
} Israel National Police
} Jerusalem
} ISRAEL

OK, but wait a minute. Brian also said he is using oil immersion, as
well he should be with the lens he described. Oil immersion is
sometimes known as "homogeneous immersion" because the optical medium
from (and including) the objective front element all the way through to
(and including) are of homogeneous optical character. In other words,
they are of the same refractive index. The immersion oil is of the same
RI as the objective front element, the same as the cover slip, the same
as the slide, the same as the condenser front element and (usually)
about the same as the mounting medium. Thus, in the special case of oil
immersion, it is generally held that the cover slip thickness is
irrelevant within reasonable bounds. This is why very often on oil
immersion objectives there is no indication of best cover slip
thickness. Where cover slip thickness is important is with high
numerical aperture _dry_ lenses. The cover slip is always an integral
part of the optical system and, as such, its characteristics (including
thickness) are incorporated in the calculations of the entire objective
lens system. But with high NA lenses there is less tolerance for the
aberrations introduced by improper cover slip thickness. Here is an
excerpt from the Particle Atlas Electronic Edition (You will note a
slight difference in opinion from mine of c.s. thickness with oil
immersion):

Chapter 1. Optics and the Microscope
Section D. Compound Microscope
Subsection 1. Objectives
Subsection g. Cover slip thickness

"An important consideration in using different objectives is cover slip
thickness. Just how important is the cover slip in the formation of
sharp microscopical images? Spinell and Loveland answer this question
very completely in a paper entitled "Optics of the Object Space in
Microscopy." For the average skilled microscopist, cover slip thickness
should be close to the recommended thickness of 0.17 mm (continental and
oriental microscopes) or 0.18 mm (U.S. and British microscopes). The
allowable variation before detectable image deterioration occurs depends
on the numerical aperture of the objective: it is +/- 8 micrometers for
a 0.95 NA dry objective; +/-15 micrometers for 0.85 NA; +/-45
micrometers for 0.65; for objectives of NA less than or equal to 0.25 it
makes little difference whether a cover slip is used or not. It is also
best to use a cover slip of correct thickness for immersion objectives.

"Cover slips vary greatly in thickness and some manufacturers' cover
slips are better than those of others. In one test reported by
Loveland, a group of Corning No. 1-1/2 cover slips averaged 184
micrometers in thickness and about half of the slips were suitable for
use with the 0.95 NA dry objective; nearly 95% were suitable with a 0.85
NA objective (assuming that the objectives are corrected for use with
0.18 mm cover slips). It is best to buy No. 1-1/2 cover slips and to
micrometer them when doing critical work."

(The cited Spinel and Loveland paper will be found at J. Roy. Micros.
Soc., 79:59-80, 1960.)

By the way, IMHO, Brian's question well illustrates why it is deplorable
that in modern universities there is usually no place for a student to
learn the fundamentals of light microscopy. Maybe now that you can
actually spend $100K on a light microscope, and now that confocal and
other "modern" techniques are being used in genetic and other intensely
popular research areas, science may once again begin to take the light
microscope seriously. Perish the thought, but could we actually see
some thought being given to serious instruction on how to use the
instrument? There's a radical notion!

(Sorry, its late at night and I'm tired and grumpy. :-p No fault of
yours Brian. How could you know better when you've nowhere to turn for
education on the subject.)

--

Stephen A. Shaffer
MicroDataware
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From: Michel Deschuyteneer :      deschuyt-at-sbbio.be
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 97 08:37:12 +0100
Subject: Re: TEM Liposomes. Neg.staining.

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Randi:

A few suggestions.

1. Procedure: I float my grids on top of a drop of solution on Parafilm in a
wet chamber for 10-15 min., then pick the grid and blot out the excess
solution with Whatman 1 filter. I transfer on the stain solution for 30
sec., blot and dry. In my hands this works better than the other way
(solution on grid) which seems to favor uneven spread of the material.
2. Dilution of the liposome solution: find the right dilution which will
allow sufficient dispersion of the material on the grid. With a diluted
solution you may have to search a little more but there is a far better
chance to see the full range of sizes present in your sample. This should
prevent the big guys to mask the little ones.
3. Stains: I have used both UAc 2% / trehalose 1% in ddH2O or PTA 2% /
trehalose 1% in ddH2O (according to J. Robin Harris) with some success.

I hope this helps.
Best regards,
Michel

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From: Stephan Coetzee :      stephan-at-gecko.biol.wits.ac.za
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:53:06 GMT+2
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Dear all
Just my view. I have been using Pegasus mail. The latest version is
very versatile and free. Have two different options in the filtering
which will look at closed and open folders, with option for including
and excluding certain mail if certain key words appear in either the
text, heading or subject field.
I am a mere happy user.
} }
} } Has anyone figured out how to segregate from other mail the e-mail
} } originating in this forum?
} }
} } I use Internet Mail & News (v4.70) bundled with Microsoft IE 3.02. The
} } "Inbox Assistant" in "Mail" menu is meant to assist in automatic
} } segregation to sub-folders, but I have been unable to make it work with
} } stuff from the MSA list server.
} }
} } Any thoughts, suggestions, or recommendations for mail browsers better able
} } to do the job?
} }

} }
}
} I use Eudora as my email system, so I don't know if the following will work
} with Internet Mail & News.
}
} In Eudora you can set filters which can look at any part of the message
} (header, sender, body, etc.) and take one of several actions (e.g. send to
} a specified mailbox).
} I have set up a mailbox "microscopy" and a filter which looks in the body
} of each incoming message for the prologue which is added by the Microscopy
} list server, in particular for the words "Microscopy ListServer". If these
} words are found, the message is automatically sent from the "In" mailbox to
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} Your system should have an equivalent feature. If not, I suggest you take a
} look at Eudora (I have no financial interest in the company, I just like
} the product).
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From: Giles Sanders :      pazghs-at-pan1.pharm.nottingham.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 07:56:04 GMT0BST
Subject: Re: Atomic Force MIcroscopes

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John,
the majority of the makers of AFM systems can be found on the Web and
they provid a good background to the instruments they sell. Namely
...

Digital Instruments - www.di.com
Topometrix - www.topometrix.com
Park Scientific (now part of thermospectra) - www.park.com

These are the three main companies, through Burleigh now make a
research grade AFM as well as low priced personal AFM and STMs. DME
a danish company make the Rasterscope which is a resonably priced
machine with mid range capabilities. Recently on the market are
Molecular devices and Tools which are a Russian company - i haven't
seen their machine in action - but a contact email address for the
states is howard-at-ktecintl.com.

As for which machine is the best - I would say that would depend to a
degree on you application and the amount of money you wish to spend.
Some of the companies' research instruments are for example better
for working in liquid than others, others allow for larger samples.
I would recomend you get a demonstatration by as many of the
manufacturers as you can before making any decision.


Dr. Giles Sanders
Laboratory of Biophysics and Surface Analysis
School of Pharmacy
Nottingham University
England




From: Dr Eric E. Lachowski :      che136-at-abdn.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:53:14 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: Paper sample Preparation

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On Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:37:39 -0500 Ed Kurz
{ekurz-at-mail.ims.uconn.edu} wrote:



} Does anyone have suggestions concerning how to prepare a sample of paper
} laminated with Latex and Saran for examination by SEM/EDX, optical
} microscopy and micro FTIR. Ideally I would like to observe the sample in
} cross section with a surface similar in quality to those we prepare by
} metallographic techniques. Simply cutting by razor smears the surface.
} The sample was still ductile while submerged in LN2 so we could not obtain
} a fracture surface. We have had some success cutting with razor while
} under LN2 but there are still signs of smearing. We could microtome under
} LN2. Does anyone have other suggestions concerning sample preparation? Are
} metallographic techniques (embed, grind and polish) feasible? The embedding
} material must not affect the sample.
}
} Thanks in advance,
}
I've had good results from embedding paper in epoxy resin
and polishing, finishing with quarter micron alumina. I
also tried LR White, which did not make such good blocks.
It doesn't seem to make much difference whether or not you
vacuum impregnate.

Regards,
Eric
----------------------
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From: Frieda Christie :      f.christie-at-rbge.org.uk
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:44:42 BST
Subject: Zeiss SEM Vacuum problem

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We have a problem with our Zeiss DSM 962 which our engineers are, as
yet, unable to solve. The turbo pump switches off and an error
message indicates that there is "...no 220v supply or the supply line
is interrupted". This supply has been checked and found to be normal.

The problem was initially intermittent, occurring immediately or
several minutes after the instrument was switched on from cold. It
also occurred occasionally after chamber evacuation. However,
recently the problem has become so bad that the error message does
not respond to the reset button and will only clear when the
microscope is switched off at the rear.

The engineers at LEO suspect a fault on the circuit board relating to
the vacuum system. I would be interested to hear directly from
anyone who has had a similar experience or who might offer advice.

Frieda Christie




From: Bob Hertsens :      bobH.jeolbxl-at-pophost.eunet.be
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 14:06:56 +0100
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Also JEOL has a long experience with AFM and STM. Please contact your
local sales office.

You can find us on our webside : http://www.jeol.co.jp or http://www.jeol.com


Good luck.


Dr. R. Hertsens



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From: Greg Erdos :      gwe-at-biotech.ufl.edu
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 08:57:23 -0500
Subject: Re: TEM Liposomes. Neg.staining.

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You might try floating the grid on a drop of the suspension on a piece of
Parafilm or other hydrophobic surface. You can also try adding a wetting
agent like Bacitracin. Or you could charge the surface of the grid with
polylyine if the liposomes are negatively charged. I have always used 1-2%
uranyl acetate for neg. staining of liposome.
Maybe the suspension needs to be diluted as well.

It is possible that you only have large ones in your suspension despite
assurances from whoever made them that they should be small. Have they been
sized by light scattering or some other method?

Greg Erdos


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From: Walt Bobrowski (313) 996-7814 :      bobroww-at-aa.wl.com
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 09:59:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Automated Tissue Processor Protocols

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For current users of automated tissue processors:
I would be very interested to know processing protocols and any special resin
formulation that is particularly suited for the processor.
TIA

Walt Bobrowski
Parke-Davis Research
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From: Robert Fisher :      rmfisher-at-u.washington.edu
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 08:26:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: ICEM Website.

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The revised website for ICEM 14 in Cancun is

http://icem.inin.mx

It nicely conveys the unique and sunny flavour of
this meeting

Technicians in particular are advised to push the
"New" button when you check out the meeting notice.

Nice little surprise there.

Bob Fisher






From: Stephen Griffiths :      s.griffiths-at-ucl.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:26:24 -0000
Subject: Re: MSA: MISC. how to segregate MSA mail?

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} } Has anyone figured out how to segregate from other mail the e-mail
} } originating in this forum?
} }
} } I use Internet Mail & News (v4.70) bundled with Microsoft IE 3.02. The
} } "Inbox Assistant" in "Mail" menu is meant to assist in automatic
} } segregation to sub-folders, but I have been unable to make it work with
} } stuff from the MSA list server.
} }
} } Any thoughts, suggestions, or recommendations for mail browsers better
able
} } to do the job?
} }

Sorry to post this to the list. But I did not read the original e-mail and
the subsequent reply doesn't include the information to allow me to reply
to the originator personally.

I use Microsoft IE 3.02 and the Internet Mail and News(v4.70) too.
I have been able to segregate most of the MSA mailings using the Inbox
assistant.
You do need to use more than one instruction to take care of most of the
possiblities.
I use the following, which seems to filter over 95% of MSA messages into my
"MICROSCOPY" box

Move to "MICROSCOPY" if "TO" contains Microscopy-at-Sparc5.microscopy.com
Move to "MICROSCOPY" if CC contains Microscopy-at-Sparc5.microscopy.com
Move to "MICROSCOPY" if "TO" contains Microscopy and Listserver

I get an occasional rogue MSA message that does not conform to the above
but they are rare.
It might be worth a try before going to the trouble of changing over your
e-mail browser.

Regards
Stephen Griffiths

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From: Ginger Baker :      lizard-at-okway.okstate.edu
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 97 10:40:45 -0600
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The Oklahoma Microscopy Society (OMS) will be holding its fall
technical meeting in conjunction with the Oklahoma Academy of Science
(OAS) at the University of Arts and Sciences of Oklahoma in Chickasaw,
Oklahoma on Friday, November 7, 1997. Any and all are welcome to
attend.

Key note speakers for this meeting include: (1) Dr. Biao Ding
(Department of Botany, Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, OK)
speaking on "Elucidating Intercellular Communications in Plants: Role
of Microscopy" and (2) Dr. Robert Nordquist (Department of
Ophthalmology, University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center, Oklahoma
City, OK) speaking on "The Ultrastructure of Laser/Tissue Interactions
and Clinical Applications".

Other points of business:

-OMS will be celebrating its 20th Anniversary at the meeting.

-Students will be competing for the annual Timpano Award which is
an all expense paid trip to the national MSA meeting the following
year.

-Items regarding the upcoming joint spring meeting with the Texas
Society will be discussed.


Any questions, please contact Ginger Baker (Secretary/Treasurer) at
(918) 561-8232 or Phoebe Doss (President) at (405) 744-6765.







From: Ginger Baker :      lizard-at-okway.okstate.edu
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 97 10:40:45 -0600
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The Oklahoma Microscopy Society (OMS) will be holding its fall
technical meeting in conjunction with the Oklahoma Academy of Science
(OAS) at the University of Arts and Sciences of Oklahoma in Chickasaw,
Oklahoma on Friday, November 7, 1997. Any and all are welcome to
attend.

Key note speakers for this meeting include: (1) Dr. Biao Ding
(Department of Botany, Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, OK)
speaking on "Elucidating Intercellular Communications in Plants: Role
of Microscopy" and (2) Dr. Robert Nordquist (Department of
Ophthalmology, University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center, Oklahoma
City, OK) speaking on "The Ultrastructure of Laser/Tissue Interactions
and Clinical Applications".

Other points of business:

-OMS will be celebrating its 20th Anniversary at the meeting.

-Students will be competing for the annual Timpano Award which is
an all expense paid trip to the national MSA meeting the following
year.

-Items regarding the upcoming joint spring meeting with the Texas
Society will be discussed.


Any questions, please contact Ginger Baker (Secretary/Treasurer) at
(918) 561-8232 or Phoebe Doss (President) at (405) 744-6765.







From: Marti, Jordi :      MartiJ-at-MTOMP201.Research.Allied.com
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 97 15:12:00 EST
Subject: Superalloy/TEM

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I need to prepare TEM specimens of Inconel 718 superalloy . I was
going to start with perchloric and ethanol at about - 35 C. I would however
appreciate getting "recipes" from people with more experience on this
matter.

Thanks

Jordi Marti




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From: garyliechty-at-worldnet.att.net
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 13:37:18 -0800
Subject: Re: Tripod Polishing

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} After polishing my sample I immersed it in acetone to dissolve the cement
} and after it had separated from the glass support I examined it by OM .
} At that point I noticed that a thin solid film of the colloidal,
} non-crystallizing silica, had formed on the surface of the sample. Is there
} a safe way of removing this film ?? I've tried soaking the sample in the
} colloidal suspension and in water but it did no seem to help.
}
} I suspect the film formed because I failed to wash the sample properly
} before putting it in the acetone but I hate the idea of starting all over
} again.
}
} I would appreciate any suggestions.
}
} Jordi Marti
Dear Jordi,

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I have also heard Methanol works sometimes.

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From: Dr. Mark W. Lund :      lundm-at-physc2.byu.edu
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 15:25:55 MST/MDT
Subject: Re: cover slip thickness

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So how do you tell if you have spherical aberration due to cover glass
thickness? You look at a tiny particle as you go in and out of
focus. Spherical aberration will give you a small white spot in
the center when you are out of focus one way, and not the other. Also
the diffraction pattern around the particle will be different on one
side of focus than the other--it is not symmetric in out-of-focus direction.

best regards
mark

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From: jmkrupp-at-cats.ucsc.edu (Jon Krupp)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:01:10 -0800
Subject: SEM Looking for Radiolarians

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Hi:

A user in our lab wishes to image radiolarians (nearly pure SiO2) and
separate them from the matrix (smectite to illite clay) in order to do an
analysis of area/volume ratios.

In fractured samples we can see the radiolarians easily in the SEM, but he
wants to be able to do image analysis on a picture and pick out the rads by
doing some thresholding. In our pictures, the rads and the matrix are all
similar in gray value.

Whole rads are 60 - 80 um in diameter, but they are also found as 'chunks'
as small as 3 um. The clay particles of the matrix are from 1 - 5 um in
size. He wants to separate even small particles of rads to get a measure of
displacement and volume changes. I suggested that he may have to prepare a
polished surface to examine, but he would like to avoid doing that since
the samples are somewhat friable and he is not sure how to proceed.

We tried SEI and BSE imaging in the SEM, but the gray values are too close
to do much thresholding. We tried doing some x-ray mapping, but Si is
abundant in both the rads and the matrix so not much to go on there. Any
elements unique to either the rads or the matrix seem to be present in
concentrations too low to make a good separation using x-ray maps.

I have told him that I think this is a hard problem, but that I would send
a message to the list to see if anyone had any ideas or leads on
techniques. So, what do you think?

Jonathan Krupp
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From: wise-at-vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 18:25:47 -0600 (CST)
Subject: rebuilt filaments

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I'm considering buying some rebuilt SEM filaments (W). I am seeking input
from users as to how they compare to new (manufacturers or second source).

TIA

Bob

Dr. Robert R. Wise
Department of Biology
University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
Oshkosh, WI 54901

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From: Gerroir,Paul :      Paul_Gerroir-at-xn.xerox.com
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 20:02:13 -0600
Subject: Open discussion forum for microscopy community

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Hello fellow microscopists,

I would like to hear from anyone who has experience in the staining of
poly(4-vinyl pyridine). The material in question is a copolymer
diblock of poly(styrene-b-4-VP). If anyone out there can offer
assistance I'd appreciate hearing from you. Thanks.

Paul Gerroir
Xerox Research Centre of Canada
Subscibe Microscopy Paul_Gerroir-at-xn.xerox,com






From: Michel Deschuyteneer :      deschuyt-at-sbbio.be
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 97 08:46:50 +0100
Subject: Re: Re[2]: TEM Liposomes. Neg.staining.

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Hi Manoj.

Good question: Not readily, I'm afraid.
It is actually difficult to assess whether liposomes are uni- or
multi-lamellar with neg staining.
Actually, the best method to answer this is cryo-EM of a frozen hydrated
suspension of the liposomes.

Regards,
Michel

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} Michel,
}
} I wonder how readily do you get to see if your liposomes are
} multilamellar or not?
}
} Manoj
}
} Dr. Manoj MISRA,
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From: S.Hillmer :      shillme-at-uni-goettingen.de
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 97 09:19:29 -0000
Subject: Zeiss 902 problem

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Dear microscopists,

I was asked recently if it is possible to get a final image on a Zeiss
902 that shows signs of astigmatism just in one half of the negative, the
other half appears to be OK. Could this situation occur in a microscope
that is OK due to misalignment of the energy filtering system by the
user, or is this definitely a hardware problem?

Thank you for your help,
Stefan


Dr. Stefan Hillmer
Albrecht-von-Haller Institut fuer Pflanzenwissenschaften
Universitaet Goettingen
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Deutschland

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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:46:47 +0100
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From: Energy Beam Sciences, Inc. :      ebs-at-ebsciences.com
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 07:18:58 -0500
Subject: rebuilt filaments

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Dear fellow microscopists,

At 06:25 PM 11/4/97 -0600, Bob Wise wrote:
} I'm considering buying some rebuilt SEM filaments (W). I am seeking input
} from users as to how they compare to new (manufacturers or second source).

This issue comes up from time to time. Energy Beam Sciences has been
manufacturing new and rebuilt tungsten filaments for EMs for more than 25
years, and I am regularly asked this question. I can't speak for other
manufacturers, but I can state categorically that *our* rebuilt filaments
are functionally identical to *our* new filaments. The bases are cleaned,
identical filament loops are welded to the posts, and the finished filaments
are aligned, vacuum annealed, then checked again for alignment. In blind
tests, there was no variation at all between the performance of new and
rebuilt filaments in the same microscope.

That being said, there may well be differences in *design* between filaments
sold by the column manufacturer and rebuilt filaments manufactured by a
third party. These differences can very well influence filament
performance, both positively and negatively. If I were considering the use
of rebuilt filaments, I would ask the manufacturer if the loop configuration
differs from the filaments sold by the EM manufacturer and, if so, why.

Best regards,
Steven E. Slap, Vice-President
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From: F.C. Thomas :      thomasf-at-AGC.BIO.NS.CA
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 08:34:13 -0800
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Further to the "Dry hands" thread I've seen lately, I think there's a
general humidity problem in a lot of labs, at least in colder climates
where the central heating is on all winter. In my own lab, in a large
building built in the late '70s, the humidity can get down to 15 - 20%
by February or early March. This is probably a good environment for,
say, preserving Lenin's corpse, but is not generally appropriate for
living non-communist microscopists.
I don't work with a lot of chemicals or irritants of any kind
(except the Admin people), so when my hands get dry and chapped, I think
it's just because of the dessicating environment. I'm thinking of
installing a humidifier in the lab here, at least for winter use.
Has anyone out there been able to successfully regulate a
comfortable humidity level in a cool-climate lab?
I'm going to have to be careful about approaching management to pay
for a humidifier, though, because our building is just now going through
some major renovation to take care of a minor outbreak of Stachybotras
(a damp-loving mold that can be quite toxic to some people) that
occurred in another, much moister part of the complex. So when they hear
anything about me wanting to increase a humidity level somewhere, they
may get a little squirrely on me.




From: Marcel Paques :      Marcel.Paques-at-unilever.com
Date: 11/5/97 7:04 AM
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Dear Manoj,

It is well documented in literature that negative staining deteriorates the
original structure of liposomes. The technique should not be used for their
observation!!!!!!.

I always perform the LT observation in TEM of vitrified thin films in parallel
with freeze fracture. Discrimination between uni- and multi-lamellar in thin
films is straight forward. The freeze fracture in parallel is to have a
confirmation of your findings in thin film. The thin film preparation can
introduce various artefacts, e.g.:
1 selection of diameter size ( Determined by the film thickness the liposomes
are ordered in their diameter. Diameters larger than the thickness of the film
are excluded from the thin film and will not be visible in the TEM.
2.in case of viscous liquids, mechanical stresses are applied during thin film
preparation, which can cause phase inversion.
3.Diameter sizes larger than the film thickness present in the film can be
deformed and have lost their spherical shape (have become flattened between
both air/water interfaces of the film. Tilting of the grid in the beam is
needed to check on the shape of the vesicles.
In the freeze fracture replica all sizes are present in their actual shape and
distribution in the dispersion. Replication is limited in discrimination between
uni- and multi-lamellar vesicles. Insight in this aspect is only obtained in
case of cross-fractures through vesicles.

Success,

Marcel Paques
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Hi Manoj.

Good question: Not readily, I'm afraid.
It is actually difficult to assess whether liposomes are uni- or
multi-lamellar with neg staining.
Actually, the best method to answer this is cryo-EM of a frozen hydrated
suspension of the liposomes.

Regards,
Michel

At 18:21 4/11/97 +0100, you wrote:
}
} Michel,
}
} I wonder how readily do you get to see if your liposomes are
} multilamellar or not?
}
} Manoj
}
} Dr. Manoj MISRA,
} Unilever Research
} 45 River Road
} Edgewater, NJ 07020
} (201)840-2702 (voice)
} (201)840-8299 (fax)
} Manoj.Misra-at-unilever.com
}
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From: Reffner, John :      rsrj2r-at-rohmhaas.com
Date:
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PHILADELPHIA SOCIETY FOR MICROSCOPY
MEETING NOTICE: Wednesday Night, NOVEMBER 12, 1997

RESOLVING CHEMISTRY WITH INFRARED MICROSPECTROSCOPY

John A. Reffner, Ph.D., Spectra-Tech, Inc. 2 Research Drive, Shelton, CT
06484
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Members and Non-Members Welcome -
Location and Reservation Information at end of this note.
Reservation deadline Friday at 12:00.

Newsletter is also available at:
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Abstract

Infrared microspectrometry (IMS) is the measurement of infrared spectra
through a microscope coupled to Fourier transform spectrometer. This
FT-IR microscope is a tool used to visually detect microscopically small
samples or domains and to record their infrared spectra. This
instrumentation unites two sciences, microscopy and spectroscopy. IMS
has been applied to analysis of adhesives, cosmetics, copy toners,
drugs, explosives, fibers, inks, paints, plastics and soils on a truly
ultra-microscopic scale. Samples weighing a few nanograms are routinely
identified and quantified. When microscopy and spectroscopy are used
together, scientists have a greater discrimination power. Infrared
spectroscopy resolves chemistry, while microscopy resolves shape and
form. IMS is used identify a single fiber or to differentiate a nylon-6
fiber from nylon-6,6 fiber. Today that is not too impressive but, using
IMS to separate single acrylic fibers into 23 unique compositional
classes has been a major advance for identification of trace evidence in
forensic investigations.

IMS places new demands on the analyst --- you must be both microscopist
and spectroscopist. Microscopy has a long and distinguished history of
measuring, evaluating and comparing materials. Microscopes lets you see
more detail, detect unseen structure and solve problems. Add the
ability to get infrared spectra of any microscopic domain and your power
expands to resolve molecular chemistry.

Microscopy can be defined as the art and science of creating, recording
and interpreting magnified images. The combination of SEM with EDX gave
us the ability to do elemental analysis, now the molecular chemistry can
be probed using the combination of light microscopy with infrared
spectroscopy.

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UPENN,
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(We have made arrangements with UPENN, they say they will not tow)
Cost of Dinner:
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Schedule:
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Menu:
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DEADLINE for RESERVATIONS is 5:00 PM Thursday November
6th.
Reservations are required. We cannot guarantee you a meal if you do
not make a reservation prior to the deadline.

About the Speaker

For the past ten years Dr. Reffner has been employed by Spectra-Tech,
first as a Corporate Fellow and for the last three years as Research
Director. In this role Dr. Reffner has led the technical development of
infrared microspectroscopy. Prior to joining Spectra-Tech, he was a
Principal Scientist with American Cyanamide (1977 - 87), Assistant
Director of the Institute of Material Sciences at the University of
Connecticut (1966 - 77) and Research Director at McCrone Associates,
Chicago, Illinois (1958 - 66). His undergraduate education was at Akron
University. He received a master's degree at Illinois Institute of
Technology and a doctorate from the University of Connecticut. In
addition to infrared microspectroscopy include polymer science,
microscopy and forensic science. He is a Special Consultant to the
Connecticut State Police and is on the editorial board of the Journal of
Forensic Science.




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From: Soumitra Ghoshroy :      ghoshroy-at-mcbsgi.bio.sunysb.edu
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 09:18:38 -0500
Subject: Technical advance

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Hi Fellow Microscopists,

I need some advice. What would be a good journal to publish a technical
advance type of paper which reports a methodological improvement for
immunoEM studies of plant tissues ?

Thanks in advance,

Soumitra

Soumitra Ghoshroy
Department of Biochemistry and Cell Biology
State University of New York at Stony Brook
Stony Brook, NY 11794-5215
Tel: 516-632-9536
Fax: 516-632-8575






From: Lou Ann Miller :      lamiller-at-uiuc.edu
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 08:33:06 -0700
Subject: Re[4]: TEM Liposomes. Neg.staining.

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Do you fix your membranes before negative staining?

We do negative stain our fixed samples, and we get beautiful results, and
yes, it is easy for us to see the lamination.

Though we've seen nice results from unfixed samples as well.

We use Amonium Molybdate, at pH 6.3

Lou Ann


} [Marcel Paques:]
} It is well documented in literature that negative staining deteriorates the
} original structure of liposomes. The technique should not be used for their
} observation!!!!!!.

Lou Ann Miller
Center for Microscopy & Imaging
College of Veterinary Medicine
Dept. of Veterinary Biosciences
University of Illinois
Rm 1108 Basic Sciences Bld
2001 S Lincoln Ave.
Urbana, Illinois 61802

Phone: 217-244-1566
fax: 217-244-1652
email: lamiller-at-uiuc.edu

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Central States Microscopy Society:
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From: Paula Allan-Wojtas :      AllanWojtasP-at-em.agr.ca
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 09:33:01 -0500
Subject: EM life expectancy

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Hello, everyone,

For the purposes of equipment replacement, costing for microscopy, as
well as other reasons our Admin people have asked me to tell them what
the life expectancy of electron microscopes is. We need to know this
value because it is an integral part of any calculations we have to do with
respect to our microscopes.

I have worked on both TEMs and SEMs that have been close to 25 years
old, and still running well enough to allow us to get the information we
required. I have also talked with some colleagues who have given 10
years as the expectancy, when the equipment, although it still may be
working well, is considered to be "outdated".

In this vein, I would be interested to hear from colleagues and commercial
folks alike to see what the general consensus is, and what a reasonable
value for life expectancy is. This is important because this is the value I
will always use in all my calculations from now on.

Thank you.

Paula Allan-Wojtas
Food Microstructure Specialist
Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada
Atlantic Food and Horticulture Research Centre
Kentville, Nova Scotia Canada B4N 1J5

Tel: (902) 679-5566
FAX: (902) 679-2311

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From: J.A.Manston :      J.A.Manston-at-qmw.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 14:35:50 +0000
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Dear Manoj

How to tell if liposomes are uni or multi-lamellar ?

Freeze fracture.


Regards

John
John Manston
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Queen Mary and Westfield College
University of London
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London E1 4NS
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From: Manoj Misra :      Manoj.Misra-at-unilever.com
Date: 11/5/97 7:04 AM
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Dear Marcel

Yes I realize that. And we do do freeze fracture and cryo-TEM to see
lamellar structures in liposomes. However, we negatively stain
liposomal preps prior to freezing to perform preliminary assessment of
their quality and density. Often in such collapsed vesicles one gets
to see muti-lamellar striations.

Manoj



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Dear Manoj,

It is well documented in literature that negative staining deteriorates the
original structure of liposomes. The technique should not be used for their
observation!!!!!!.

I always perform the LT observation in TEM of vitrified thin films in parallel
with freeze fracture. Discrimination between uni- and multi-lamellar in thin
films is straight forward. The freeze fracture in parallel is to have a
confirmation of your findings in thin film. The thin film preparation can
introduce various artefacts, e.g.:
1 selection of diameter size ( Determined by the film thickness the liposomes
are ordered in their diameter. Diameters larger than the thickness of the film

are excluded from the thin film and will not be visible in the TEM.
2.in case of viscous liquids, mechanical stresses are applied during thin film
preparation, which can cause phase inversion.
3.Diameter sizes larger than the film thickness present in the film can be
deformed and have lost their spherical shape (have become flattened between
both air/water interfaces of the film. Tilting of the grid in the beam is
needed to check on the shape of the vesicles.
In the freeze fracture replica all sizes are present in their actual shape and
distribution in the dispersion. Replication is limited in discrimination between
uni- and multi-lamellar vesicles. Insight in this aspect is only obtained in
case of cross-fractures through vesicles.

Success,

Marcel Paques
Vlaardingen
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Hi Manoj.

Good question: Not readily, I'm afraid.
It is actually difficult to assess whether liposomes are uni- or
multi-lamellar with neg staining.
Actually, the best method to answer this is cryo-EM of a frozen hydrated
suspension of the liposomes.

Regards,
Michel

At 18:21 4/11/97 +0100, you wrote:
}
} Michel,
}
} I wonder how readily do you get to see if your liposomes are
} multilamellar or not?
}
} Manoj
}
} Dr. Manoj MISRA,
} Unilever Research
} 45 River Road
} Edgewater, NJ 07020
} (201)840-2702 (voice)
} (201)840-8299 (fax)
} Manoj.Misra-at-unilever.com
}
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From: allen.white-at-amd.com
Date: 05 Nov 1997 08:51:45 -0600
Subject: RE: SEM Looking for Radiolarians

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It's been 25 years since I've been in a micropaleontology prep lab but
I do remember that rads are quite durable. They would be soaked them for
a couple of days in Quaternary-O, I think a petroleum based dispersant.
The clay was dispersed in a blender and then the rads filtered out with
a 300 or so mesh sieve. I have seen rads removed from well indurated rocks
bordering on chert by an overnight soaking in dilute HF followed by siving.

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Hi:

A user in our lab wishes to image radiolarians (nearly pure SiO2) and
separate them from the matrix (smectite to illite clay) in order to do an
analysis of area/volume ratios.

In fractured samples we can see the radiolarians easily in the SEM, but he
wants to be able to do image analysis on a picture and pick out the rads by
doing some thresholding. In our pictures, the rads and the matrix are all
similar in gray value.

Whole rads are 60 - 80 um in diameter, but they are also found as 'chunks'
as small as 3 um. The clay particles of the matrix are from 1 - 5 um in
size. He wants to separate even small particles of rads to get a measure of
displacement and volume changes. I suggested that he may have to prepare a
polished surface to examine, but he would like to avoid doing that since
the samples are somewhat friable and he is not sure how to proceed.

We tried SEI and BSE imaging in the SEM, but the gray values are too close
to do much thresholding. We tried doing some x-ray mapping, but Si is
abundant in both the rads and the matrix so not much to go on there. Any
elements unique to either the rads or the matrix seem to be present in
concentrations too low to make a good separation using x-ray maps.

I have told him that I think this is a hard problem, but that I would send
a message to the list to see if anyone had any ideas or leads on
techniques. So, what do you think?

Jonathan Krupp
Microscopy and Imaging Lab
University of California
Santa Cruz, CA 95064
(408) 459-2477
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From: Warren Straszheim :      wesaia-at-iastate.edu
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 09:10:17 -0600
Subject: Re: SEM Looking for Radiolarians

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What about using the Al in the clay to note the difference? There should be
enough.

Certainly doing x-ray maps is not as fast as SEI or BSE imaging, but it can
work. We have done it routinely to pick out phases in cement paste for image
analysis.

At 04:01 PM 11/4/97 -0800, you wrote:
} Hi:
}
} A user in our lab wishes to image radiolarians (nearly pure SiO2) and
} separate them from the matrix (smectite to illite clay) in order to do an
} analysis of area/volume ratios.
}
} In fractured samples we can see the radiolarians easily in the SEM, but he
} wants to be able to do image analysis on a picture and pick out the rads by
} doing some thresholding. In our pictures, the rads and the matrix are all
} similar in gray value.
}
} Whole rads are 60 - 80 um in diameter, but they are also found as 'chunks'
} as small as 3 um. The clay particles of the matrix are from 1 - 5 um in
} size. He wants to separate even small particles of rads to get a measure of
} displacement and volume changes. I suggested that he may have to prepare a
} polished surface to examine, but he would like to avoid doing that since
} the samples are somewhat friable and he is not sure how to proceed.
}
} We tried SEI and BSE imaging in the SEM, but the gray values are too close
} to do much thresholding. We tried doing some x-ray mapping, but Si is
} abundant in both the rads and the matrix so not much to go on there. Any
} elements unique to either the rads or the matrix seem to be present in
} concentrations too low to make a good separation using x-ray maps.
}
} I have told him that I think this is a hard problem, but that I would send
} a message to the list to see if anyone had any ideas or leads on
} techniques. So, what do you think?
}
} Jonathan Krupp
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From: schmutzm-at-lear.u-strasbg.fr (Schmutz Marc)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:18:56 +0900
Subject: TEM-liposomes Neg Staining

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Hi,



Here are my two cents, I would say that: as it's so easy to do cryo EM on
liposomes you should never try Neg. Staining. You will just loose your
time...
And cryoEM give you much more results about the structure of your suspension.

A cryo EMist








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From: Marti, Jordi[SMTP:MartiJ-at-MTOMP201.Research.Allied.com]
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:21:48 -0500
Subject: Superalloy/TEM

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Good start. As an iteration on your basic recipe, add more viscosity
by using 4 vol% perchloric in equal parts ethanol/methanol/butanol.
This can improve the polish, but not always....

David B. Snow
Pratt & Whitney
Materials & Mechanics Engineering
400 Main St. (MS 114-45)
East Hartford, CT 06108
860 565 7823
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From: Woody.N.White-at-mcdermott.com
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:33:00 -0600
Subject: Re: Dry hands/Humidifier

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Consider the potential dust problem with any but an evaporative humidifer
(or used distilled water). Misting units will cause dissolved minerals
in the water to precipitate and mineral "snow" will eventually cover
everything. Could be a problem in an EM lab.

Woody White, Electron Microscopist SEM/EDS/WDS

Work: Mcdermott Technology, Inc.
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{snip}

I'm thinking of installing a humidifier in the lab here, at least for
winter use.
Has anyone out there been able to successfully regulate a
comfortable humidity level in a cool-climate lab?
I'm going to have to be careful about approaching management to pay
for a humidifier, though, because our building is just now going through
some major renovation to take care of a minor outbreak of Stachybotras
(a damp-loving mold that can be quite toxic to some people) that
occurred in another, much moister part of the complex. So when they hear
anything about me wanting to increase a humidity level somewhere, they
may get a little squirrely on me.




From: ldb94001-at-uconnvm.uconn.edu (Lisa Brown)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:54:49 -0400
Subject: TEM - embedding lipososomes

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A fellow student working in our lab is looking for protocols for embedding
liposomes in resin. Anyone familiar with protocols other than cryoEM that
will work?

Lisa D. Brown
University of Connecticut
Physiology and Neurobiology Department
Electron Microscopy Laboratory
Box U-131, Rm 129 Beach Hall
Storrs, Ct 06269-2131
Tel. (860)486-2914
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From: mtdineen-at-dow.com
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:28:46 -0500
Subject: Want to Rent Microtome Time, Long Island NY vicinity

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We may need a microtome periodically (rm. temp. for now, cryo in the
future) while we are performing experiments at Brookhaven National Lab,
Upton, NY. We may be in need of the microtome as early as Monday,
November 10th. We would have our own supplies, including knives, and
our own operator with 15 years microtomy experience. It would need to
be within approximately a one hour drive of Brookhaven, readily
available and rentable by the hour. If anyone has suggestions please
contact me.


Michael T. Dineen
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From: steven-at-calvin.niams.nih.gov (steven)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:08:36 -0500
Subject: Position available

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Technical specialist in support of high resolution macromolecular electron
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Responsibilities involve maintaining/operating/ testing/development of
instrumentation (transmission electron microscopes, cryo-holders, freeze-etch
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From: John Arnott :      ladres-at-worldnet.att.net
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} I'm considering buying some rebuilt SEM filaments (W). I am seeking input
} from users as to how they compare to new (manufacturers or second source).
}
} TIA
}
} Bob
}
} Dr. Robert R. Wise
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Dr. Wise,

Since Ladd Research has been providing both new and rebuilt tungsten
filaments for many years we feel we have no bias either way in this
matter.
For rebuilt filaments we clean the bases, afix the same configyration of
tungsten loop as the EM manufacturer and anneal the filament. The life
and preformance should be the same for new and rebuilt.
We would suggest rebuilt filaments unless the base is contaminated and
can not be cleaned. Some of the older scopes use porous ceramic bases
which are differcult to clean and should be replaced.

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From: Judy Trogadis :      judy-at-playfair.utoronto.ca
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:47:37 -0500 (EST)
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I Have sections of fluorescently labelled rat spinal cord and would like to
counterstain the entire section to show a general morphological outline
that accentuates white/grey matter, etc. The stain can be either fluorescent,
or, more likely, visualized with a light microscope. I am having difficulty
finding a genral histology stain which is not autofluorescent.

Any suggestions?

Judy Trogadis
Eye Research Institute and
University of Toronto
Toronto Hospital, Western Div.
399 Bathurst St.
Toronto, Canada M5T 2S8

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From: ejb11-at-psu.edu (Edward J. Basgall)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:12:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Technical advance

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Hi Soumitra,
You might consider sending your Technical Advance paper to the Journal of
Microscopy Research and Technique.

John E. Johnson is the editor and the editorial office address is:
165 Cervantes Road
Redwood City, CA 94062
ph: 415-366-1644
FAX: 415-367-9630

cheers
ed

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From: Long Liang :      LLIANG-at-mail.arco.com
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:34:47 -0600
Subject: Cathodoluminescence (CL) detector

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Dear Microscopists,

I have a CL detector attached to my ISI SEM.
The detector is not a mirror-type detector. It consists of an acrylic
light pipe and a photomultiplier tube.
Lately the CL image signals are getting weaker and noisy. I am thinking
that the light pipe may get contaminated.
How can I clean the detector ? Thanks.

Long Liang
ARCO EPMA/SEM Lab






From: wise-at-vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 17:06:24 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Interaction volume question

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In Posteket al., as well as other SEM texts, it is stated that
characteristic x-rays are emitted from a deeper zone in the interaction
volume than backscattered electrons. If the depth at which signals are
emitted is a function of the energy of that signal, why are the lower
energy X-rays (which have energies of ~1kV to ~20 kV at an accelerting
voltage of 25 kV) coming from a deeper depth than BSE (which would have
energies of ~25 kV)?

Bob

Dr. Robert R. Wise
Department of Biology
University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
Oshkosh, WI 54901

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From: Robert Underwood :      underwoo-at-u.washington.edu
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:14:21 -0800 (PST)
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Hi, Judy

If you are using FITC, I have had good success couterstaining with .01%
Evans Blue. It is fluorescent with texas red filter set and works great
as a total counterstain with tissue labelled with FITC.

Bob

On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Judy Trogadis wrote:

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} I Have sections of fluorescently labelled rat spinal cord and would like to
} counterstain the entire section to show a general morphological outline
} that accentuates white/grey matter, etc. The stain can be either fluorescent,
} or, more likely, visualized with a light microscope. I am having difficulty
} finding a genral histology stain which is not autofluorescent.
}
} Any suggestions?
}
} Judy Trogadis
} Eye Research Institute and
} University of Toronto
} Toronto Hospital, Western Div.
} 399 Bathurst St.
} Toronto, Canada M5T 2S8
}
} phone: 416-603-5088
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From: cook-at-aaem.amc.anl.gov (Russell E. Cook)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:47:45 -0500
Subject: Re: rebuilt filaments

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Bob Wise wrote:
}
} I'm considering buying some rebuilt SEM filaments (W). I am seeking input
} from users as to how they compare to new (manufacturers or second source).
} -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
} -----------------------------

I've bought reconditioned filaments for several years and I have not
noticed any differences compared to new filaments. Occasionally I have
bought new filaments from a "second source".

Russell E. Cook
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From: Sara Miller :      saram-at-acpub.duke.edu
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:44:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: TEM of muscle and nerve

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I don't believe this has been mentioned yet(???):

The Fine Structure of the Nervous System: The neurons and Supporting Cells.

A. Peters, S. L. Palay, H. deF. Webbster

W. B. Sauders Co., Philadelphia

ISBN 0-7216-7207-8


Sara E. Miller, Ph. D.
P. O. Box 3020
Duke University Medical Center
Durham, NC 27710
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From: Tom Phillips :      tphillips-at-biosci.mbp.missouri.edu
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:17:09 -0500
Subject: Balzar's address/email???

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Anybody out there know how to contact a Balzar's rep in the US. I am
interested in getting info on their high pressure freezer.


Thomas E. Phillips, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Biological Sciences
Director, Molecular Cytology Core Facility
3 Tucker Hall
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211
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From: gcruz-at-imm.hokudai.ac.jp (Ginny)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:21:31 +0000
Subject: help

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From: Marek Malecki :      malecki-at-MACC.WISC.EDU
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:28:11 -0700
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Tom,
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From: Chun Hua Kong :      kong-at-materials.unsw.edu.au
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 16:20:36 +1100
Subject: Re: Interaction volume question

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Hi, Bob

This is a good question, but you are not the first person asking it.

I think that the answer is simple. You have only considered the
absorption of the sample to the signals rather than the primary electron
beam.

We know that the BSE signal is produced by the interaction between the
primary electrons and the atomic nuclei of the sample, while the X-ray
signal is the side product of the interaction between the primary electron
beam and the outer layer electrons of the atoms in the sample. As the depth
increased, the primary electrons would loss some energy, they would loss the
qualification to produce the high energy BSE at some stage, but they can
still create the X-ray in a deeper or/and wider zone. Then, yes, you are
right, we should also consider the absorption of the sample to the signals.

Hope this can help.

Regards,

Charlie Kong

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} characteristic x-rays are emitted from a deeper zone in the interaction
} volume than backscattered electrons. If the depth at which signals are
} emitted is a function of the energy of that signal, why are the lower
} energy X-rays (which have energies of ~1kV to ~20 kV at an accelerting
} voltage of 25 kV) coming from a deeper depth than BSE (which would have
} energies of ~25 kV)?
}
} Bob
}
} Dr. Robert R. Wise
} Department of Biology
} University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
} Oshkosh, WI 54901
}
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From: Mary Mager :      mager-at-unixg.ubc.ca
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 22:27:06 -0800
Subject: Re: Interaction volume question

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Dear Bob,
That's easy, Bob. X-rays travel further through solid material than
electrons, probably because they are heavier ;-)
You wrote:
} In Posteket al., as well as other SEM texts, it is stated that
} characteristic x-rays are emitted from a deeper zone in the interaction
} volume than backscattered electrons. If the depth at which signals are
} emitted is a function of the energy of that signal, why are the lower
} energy X-rays (which have energies of ~1kV to ~20 kV at an accelerting
} voltage of 25 kV) coming from a deeper depth than BSE (which would have
} energies of ~25 kV)?
}
} Bob
}
} Dr. Robert R. Wise
} Department of Biology
} University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
} Oshkosh, WI 54901
Regards,
Mary
Mary Mager
Electron Microscopist
Metals and Materials Engineering
University of British Columbia
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Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4
CANADA
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From: nigel.chaffey-at-genfys.slu.se (Nigel Chaffey)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:24:56 +0200
Subject: Conical molybdenum insert cap...

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Dear fellow microscopists,

I wonder if anybody can help a colleague of mine? She is in need of=
:

"a conical molybdenum insert cap for a Wehnelt asembly used in a Philips
500 series SEM, when fitted with a low kV anode"

I don't understand the question, so please can any replies be
addressed directly to:


Ann.Hayes-at-bbsrc.ac.uk


Many thanks in advance!

Nigel Chaffey

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S-901 83 Ume=E5,
Sweden
Phone: +46-90-786-6305
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From: Marcel Paques :      Marcel.Paques-at-unilever.com
Date: 11/5/97 8:11 PM
Subject: EM life expectancy

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Dear Paula,

The opinion of my company is a life expectancy of 10 years. The
depreciation is calculated based on that period and the microscope
will be replaced after 10 years.

Success,

Marcel Paques


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Hello, everyone,

For the purposes of equipment replacement, costing for microscopy, as
well as other reasons our Admin people have asked me to tell them what
the life expectancy of electron microscopes is. We need to know this
value because it is an integral part of any calculations we have to do with
respect to our microscopes.

I have worked on both TEMs and SEMs that have been close to 25 years
old, and still running well enough to allow us to get the information we
required. I have also talked with some colleagues who have given 10
years as the expectancy, when the equipment, although it still may be
working well, is considered to be "outdated".

In this vein, I would be interested to hear from colleagues and commercial
folks alike to see what the general consensus is, and what a reasonable
value for life expectancy is. This is important because this is the value I
will always use in all my calculations from now on.

Thank you.

Paula Allan-Wojtas
Food Microstructure Specialist
Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada
Atlantic Food and Horticulture Research Centre
Kentville, Nova Scotia Canada B4N 1J5

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From: :      cdu-at-nsun1.hmi.de
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:01:10 +0100
Subject: TEM-Superalloy

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} } Jordi Marti wrote:

} } I need to prepare TEM specimens of Inconel 718 superalloy . I was
going to start with perchloric and ethanol at about - 35 C. I would however
appreciate getting "recipes" from people with more experience on this
matter. { {

Hi Jordi,

we routinely prepare TEM specimen from superalloys, both single crystal and
poly crystalline (e.g. SC16, IN738 etc.) for our study of deformation
substructure. We use twin jet polishing technique under following condition and
get good sucess:

10% perchloric acid + 90% ethanol at 263 K and 23 V

It should work equally good for IN718. Wish you sucess.








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From: Dr P. Echlin :      pe13-at-cus.cam.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:49:43 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: Technical advance

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The best journal for your paper if it is good science is, of course the
Journal of Microscopy. Contact Sue Betteridge at jmicrosc-at-rms.org.uk for
details.

Patrick Echlin
General Editor
Journal of MicroscopyOn Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Soumitra Ghoshroy wrote:

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} I need some advice. What would be a good journal to publish a technical
} advance type of paper which reports a methodological improvement for
} immunoEM studies of plant tissues ?
}
} Thanks in advance,
}
} Soumitra
}
} Soumitra Ghoshroy
} Department of Biochemistry and Cell Biology
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From: Oldrich Benada :      benada-at-sun1.biomed.cas.cz
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:50:00 +0100
Subject: Silica particles

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Hi Fellow Microscopists,

I need some advice. I was asked to do some analysis of silica
particles (size distribution) for chemist in our institute. Particle
size should be in the range of 3 to 6 um. I do not have any
experiences with such sample. Could someone give me a tip how to
prepare sample for TEM (or SEM)?

Thanks in advance,
O. Benada

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From: Johncatino-at-aol.com
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 06:51:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Paper sample Preparation

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There are few ways that I have had sucess at preparing paper cross-sections.
The most commonly use method involves embedding in a low viscosity resin
(Spurr's) and facing the cross-section with an diamond ultramicrotomy knife.
The alternative method is to prepare the sample similary to a metallurgical
specimen. Again using a low viscosity resin rather than standard epoxies.

The problem with epoxies will arrise with the FT-IR analysis. I have nerver
tried this method, but you might infiltate sample with water and try
cryomicrotomy. This will work as long as you do not mind swelling of the
paper.

If you need more information, contact me at john_catino-at-ucamp.com

Good Luck,
John




From: chris gilpin :      cgilpin-at-fs1.sem.man.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:19:47 BST
Subject: Image storage problems

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Dear List

3D reconstruction from TEM images requires high resolution digital
images. With the use of scanners with spot sizes of down to 7 microns
a single sheet of em film produces a huge image file. With the need
to collect hundreds/thousands of such images to improve
resoultion/noise in reconstructs what are peole doing to store all
these files?
The files need to be stored so that they can be retrieved sensibly so
tape archiving is not suitable.
Is the technology available and at what cost?

Looking forward to a stimulating discussion.


Chris


Chris Gilpin
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From: Woody.N.White-at-mcdermott.com
Date: 11/5/97 5:06 PM
Subject: Interaction volume question

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From all sources which I have read indicate that all else being
equal, x-rays are more penetrating than electrons. That is to say
that for electrons and x-rays of equal energy electrons are more
easily shielded. "Hair splitter": Emission of x-rays and
generation of BSEs can occur anywhere in the volume, only the more
penetrating x-rays make it to the surface from a larger volume.


Woody White, Electron Microscopist SEM/EDS/WDS

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In Posteket al., as well as other SEM texts, it is stated that
characteristic x-rays are emitted from a deeper zone in the interaction
volume than backscattered electrons. If the depth at which signals are
emitted is a function of the energy of that signal, why are the lower
energy X-rays (which have energies of ~1kV to ~20 kV at an accelerting
voltage of 25 kV) coming from a deeper depth than BSE (which would have
energies of ~25 kV)?

Bob

Dr. Robert R. Wise
Department of Biology
University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
Oshkosh, WI 54901

(920) 424-3404 tel
(920) 424-1101 fax
wise-at-uwosh.edu




From: dusevich :      dusevich-at-ncsu.edu
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 10:02:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Interaction volume question

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Message-ID: {3461CDEB.5FF9-at-ncsu.edu}

Absorbance of X-rays is lower then absorbance of electrons.

wise-at-vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu wrote:
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} characteristic x-rays are emitted from a deeper zone in the interaction
} volume than backscattered electrons. If the depth at which signals are
} emitted is a function of the energy of that signal, why are the lower
} energy X-rays (which have energies of ~1kV to ~20 kV at an accelerting
} voltage of 25 kV) coming from a deeper depth than BSE (which would have
} energies of ~25 kV)?
}
} Bob
}
} Dr. Robert R. Wise
} Department of Biology
} University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
} Oshkosh, WI 54901
}
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From: Patricia Meadows :      pmusa-at-udel.edu
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:28:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: TEM Position Available

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We have an immediate opening for an electron microscopist to perform
microstructure studies on magnetic materials, including small particles,
thin films/multiilayers, and permanent magnets. The Electron Microscopy
Lab (Physics and Astronomy Dept., University of Delaware) consists of
a Jeol JEM 2000 FX, a Jeol JEM 100 CX, and an Amray 1200 SEM.

The position is for one year initially, and can be renewed for the next
three years.

Interested parties please respond by sending a resume and names
and contact information for three references:

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From: A. Kent Christensen :      akc-at-umich.edu
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:31:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Technical advance

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Another fine microscopy journal, if it is good science, is MICROSCOPY AND
MICROANALYSIS, the official journal of the Microscopy Society of America,
the Microbeam Analysis Society, the Canadian Microscopical Society, and
the Mexican Microscopy Society. It is published by Springer-Verlag.

For information you can consult the journal's web site:

http://link.springer.de/link/service/journals/10005/index.htm

A. Kent Christensen
Department of Anatomy and Cell Biology
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} }
} } Hi Fellow Microscopists,
} }
} } I need some advice. What would be a good journal to publish a technical
} } advance type of paper which reports a methodological improvement for
} } immunoEM studies of plant tissues ?
} }
} } Thanks in advance,
} }
} } Soumitra
} }
} } Soumitra Ghoshroy
} } Department of Biochemistry and Cell Biology
} } State University of New York at Stony Brook
} } Stony Brook, NY 11794-5215
} } Tel: 516-632-9536
} } Fax: 516-632-8575
} }
} }
} }
}
}





From: edelmare-at-casmail.muohio.edu
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:32:55 -0500
Subject: Re: TEM: Q: Specimen Prep.Cultured Cells.

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Wolfgang,

Sorry for being a little slow, but I see no one else has responded
to the list regarding your inquiry.

With regards to your question about "loosinging" the cells that's
easy. I've worked with flask grown cultured cells a number of times,
the easiest method for dealing with surface attached cells (generally
in the retangular, lay-down 'plastic' culture flasks) is to:

(1) dump out the media

(2) add the fixative directly into the flask (make sure you use
enough to cover the cell layer)

(3) Wait for the recommended primary fix length (hopefully someone
else will provide information on appropriate fix and times) and dump
out fix.

(4) rinse with appropriate rinse agent (i.e. buffer? unless ddH2O is
preferred).

(5) Dump out first rinse, add second (to reduce residual
fixative remaing, and make things safer) With a flask scraper (ask
the dermatologist providing the sample for one - they look like tiny
rubber window washer squeegies attached with a small hinge on the end
of a plastic handle, they use these for transferring cells from one
flask to another, and are designed to gentlely remove cells adherent
to flasks) gentlely scrap the cells from the surface of the flask.
Following fixation I have found that confluent cell layers adhear
toe ach other very nicely and come off as strips and small sheets
(i.e. 1-3mm x 1-3 mm x 1-3 cells deep). With extra buffer rinse
these cell 'strips' into a test-tube or vial.

(6) Allow the cells chunks to settle, or breifly centrifuge LIGHTLY.
And remove most of the excess rinse buffer. This should give you a
concentrated suspension to work with.

(7) Mix the concentrated cell suspension with ~ equal amount of COOL
(~ 45 -50 C) 2-4% agar/agarose in H2O. NOTE: Agar/agarose must be
heated to ~100 C to get it into suspension but then doesn't gel until
~41C. I have found a 45C water bath ideal for keeping agar/agarose
molten and at the right temperature. BUT it will set up very
rapidly if you add cold cell suspension to 45 C agar/agarose. Since
the cells are grown at 37C any way warming the fixed cells to 45C
with the Agar/agarose should not cause problems.

(7) You can use epindorf tubes to mold the cell/agar mix or mix
rapidly and poor out into a clean/sterile petri dish. Dice up either
solidified mixture with a razor blade, and treat the agar/cell blocks
just like any other tissue. If you osmicate, the agar will not turn
black but the cells will (making them easier to find!). Remember
that the 'agar' will be ~1-2% stuff and 98-99% empty space so
infiltration into the agar is not much of a problem.

(8) The agar doesn't pick up much EM staining (little more LM
staining) and exhibits only slightly greater electron density than
empty resin.

Good luck.



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From: O.Oshea-at-Queens-Belfast.AC.UK
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 11:56:37 GMT
Subject: Uranyl acetate.

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Would anyone know details of suppliers where Uranyl acetate can be obtained
already in solution i.e. a saturated solution in 50% ethanol. We previously
made this up ourselves from dry powder and ethanol, but we are trying to
reduce the potential hazzard to health by purchasing ready made solution.
Thanks on advance
Orla O'Shea, Dept of Anatomy, QUB
o.oshea-at-qub.ac.uk




From: corwinl-at-pt.cyanamid.com
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 09:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re[2]: SEM Looking for Radiolarians

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I was just reading a section in Russ's book (Handbook of Image
Processing, CRC Press) on using some gray-processing kernels that are
sensitive to texture. I haven't tried this, and have no idea about
software, but the examples in the book make it seem worth a try.




From: Gerroir,Paul :      Paul_Gerroir-at-xn.xerox.com
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 06:58:25 PST
Subject: TEM - Staining of poly(4-vinyl pyridine)

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TEM - Input required for procedure to stain poly(4-vinyl pyridine).

I am interested in observing domain size in a block copolymer film of
composition; poly(styrene-b-4-vinyl pyridine).
So far I have made an attempt using OsO4 without any success. I could
give RuO4 a try but I understand that it will likely stain the
polystyrene as well. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Paul Gerroir




From: Soumitra Ghoshroy :      ghoshroy-at-mcbsgi.bio.sunysb.edu
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 10:37:08 -0500
Subject: Thank you

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Thanks to all of you who responded to my inquiry about where to publish a
technical advance paper. It was a great help.

Soumitra

Soumitra Ghoshroy
Department of Biochemistry and Cell Biology
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Stony Brook, NY 11794-5215
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From: Anthony James Bentley :      Anthony-at-surface.demon.co.uk
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:19:30 +0000
Subject: Re: Interaction volume question

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In message {2.2.32.19971106062706.008f35bc-at-pop.unixg.ubc.ca} , Mary Mager
{mager-at-unixg.ubc.ca} writes
} That's easy, Bob. X-rays travel further through solid material than
} electrons, probably because they are heavier ;-)

Photons are only heavier in reciprocal space of course. Outside of the
electron microscope they will revert to their normal mass :-)

The mechanism of absorbtion is somewhat different. Electrons are simply
scattered to lower and lower energy. You get a typical 1/E2 billiard
ball kinematics curve for the absorbtion. But photons can be absorbed as
quanta so the absorbtion curve for x_rays is a complex shape with
distinct 'edges'.

The matter of incident beam path is an additional factor, significant
but not primary (I think).

-- Usual disclaimers.
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From: wise
Date: Wednesday, November 05, 1997 5:06PM
Subject: Interaction volume question

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Bob,

The generation of X-rays in terms of depth in the interaction volume is
determined by several factors. X-rays will be produced throughout the
volume until the energy of the x-ray is below the ionization energy of the
core level responsible for that x-ray. Characteristic x-rays from different
elements are generated from different volumes having different depths and
the depths are strongly dependent on composition of the sample. In general,
the depths of these volumes are deeper for lower edge energies and are
deeper for lower average atomic number samples. The x-rays have a longer
mean free path in a material than an electron; the measure of this is in
the value of the cross section for scatterring. The absorption of an x-ray
is an all or nothing proposition, once it is absorbed, it is gone. However,
the electron can lose some of its energy during a scatterring event. The
backscatterring process is occurring deeper in the sample, but the electron
is loosing its energy on the way out of the sample. All of the electrons
having energies from 50 eV (by definition) up to the primary are essentially
backscattered electrons. There is a peak in the distribution near the
primary energy. The electrons in this peak are coming from the near surface
region because they haven't lost much energy. Incidently, this is why Auger
electron spectroscopy is so suface dependent. The Auger electron generation
process is also occurring with in the electron interaction volume below the
surface, but they loose their characteristic energy on their trek to escape
from the sample surface. They just get lost in the middle of the
backscattered electron distribution and contribute to the background in the
Auger spectrum.


In terms of imaging, a backscattered image will always have a poorer spatial
resolution for a bulk sample than the secondary electron image. The lower
the atomic number of the sample, the poorer the backscattered resolution
will be for a given energy. If you lower the beam energy, you will improve
the backscattered resolution, but you will be sacrificing detection
efficiency of the backscattered elctrons. An x-ray map image will have
poorer spatial resolution than a backscattered image.

Hope this helps.

-Scott


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In Posteket al., as well as other SEM texts, it is stated that
characteristic x-rays are emitted from a deeper zone in the interaction
volume than backscattered electrons. If the depth at which signals are
emitted is a function of the energy of that signal, why are the lower
energy X-rays (which have energies of ~1kV to ~20 kV at an accelerting
voltage of 25 kV) coming from a deeper depth than BSE (which would have
energies of ~25 kV)?

Bob

Dr. Robert R. Wise
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From: Gary Radice :      gradice-at-richmond.edu
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:25:30 -0400
Subject: Haydinger's Cross

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This is more visual optics than microscopy, but can anyone direct me to a
good explanation of the visual phenomenon called Haydinger's Cross? This
refers to the ability of the human eye to visualize a maltese cross pattern
when looking at a white field, with a blue bar in one direction and a
yellow bar at 90 degrees. It is apparently caused by some kind of dichroism
in the eye.

Gary Radice, Associate Professor gradice-at-richmond.edu
Department of Biology 804-289-8107 (voice)
University of Richmond VA 23173 804-289-8233 (FAX)






From: Woody.N.White-at-mcdermott.com
Date: 11/6/97 6:19 AM
Subject: Image storage problems

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You didn't mention the file size, but for large images files I have been
using a
writeable CD (CD-R). It is anyone's guess how long technology will be
around to
read the CDs, but seems the best bet at this time. DVDs are a coming
possibility for even more storage. The last blank CDs I bought were {$1.50
each. For 650 megs of storage, "that ain't bad".

Woody White, Electron Microscopist SEM/EDS/WDS

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3D reconstruction from TEM images requires high resolution digital
images. With the use of scanners with spot sizes of down to 7 microns
a single sheet of em film produces a huge image file. With the need
to collect hundreds/thousands of such images to improve
resoultion/noise in reconstructs what are peole doing to store all
these files?
The files need to be stored so that they can be retrieved sensibly so
tape archiving is not suitable.
Is the technology available and at what cost?

Looking forward to a stimulating discussion.


Chris


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From: Martin J. Roe :      mi596-at-mluri.sari.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:40:09 +0000
Subject: Film thickness monitors

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Comments: Authenticated sender is {mi596-at-highgate}

Can anybody explain to me exactly how a film thickness
monitor for Au and C coating works. I understand it consists of an
oscillating crystal -what is it made of? I have heard accuracy is
poor but reproducability is good using same conditions (time,
current, working distance etc.).
Thickness of C is important from the point of view of
quantitative analysis and that unknowns must be coated with the
same thickness as the reference standards. Is it sufficient to
say to NAMAS or ISO accreditors that the same coating conditions were
used for the standards as well as unknowns.
Many thanks in advance.

Martin J. Roe
MLURI
Craigiebuckler
Aberdeen
AB158QH
Scotland
U.K.




From: Raymond F Egerton :      egerton-at-phys.ualberta.ca
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:19:28 -0700 (MST)
Subject: EELS in the TEM: 2 corrections

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There is a error in the listing of the program LENZPLUS.BAS on page 429
of the second edition of Electron Energy-Loss Spectroscopy in the
Electron Microscope (Plenum, 1996): line 135 should contain ^3*, not ^*.
However, this is a typographical error and the program listing at the ftp
site (ftp.phys.ualberta.ca) has always been correct.

In addition, error-free execution of the Kramers-Kronig program
KRAKRO.FOR, as listed on p.415, requires that the array D be dimensioned
as D(8192) in the FFT subroutine, not D(4096) as required on p.413. I have
recently made this change to the ftp-site listing.

I am not aware of any other significant errors in the Second Edition but
would be grateful for any feedback from readers.

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From: Martin J. Roe :      mi596-at-mluri.sari.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 19:09:54 +0000
Subject: Re: Silica particles

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You wrote

} I need some advice. I was asked to do some analysis of silica
} particles (size distribution) for chemist in our institute. Particle
} size should be in the range of 3 to 6 um. I do not have any
} experiences with such sample. Could someone give me a tip how to
} prepare sample for TEM (or SEM)?
}
} Thanks in advance,


} Probably the best way to prepare these samples is to dilute them
in a solution of distilled water and to disperse them for several
minutes in an ultrasonic bath. Pipette a small drop of the suspension
on to a small glass slide (mounted on to a SEM stub by means of a
carbon adhesive tab) and allow sample to dry. Coat the samples with a
thin layer of Au or Au-Pd and examine in the SEM.
You could also try dipping an SEM stub (with a carbon adhesive tab
stuck on it) directly in to the sample and blowing off the excess
with a Dust-off spray and then coat the sample.
I suggest you try the latter of these two options first

Best of luck!

Martin J. Roe
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From: corwinl-at-pt.cyanamid.com
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 13:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Silica particles

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Re: particle sizing. I don't do EM, but I do particle size
measurements by light scattering and other techniques, using LM to
confirm measurements qualitatively for micron sized particles.
Microscopy looks at very few particles, so if you care about a
measurement that will be valid for a much larger quantity, you really
have to think hard about getting a representative sample. This is not
easy.

A possibly useful reference is "Sampling for Chemical Analysis," B.
Kratochvil, D. Wallace, & J. K. Taylor, Anal Chem. vol 56, 113R-129R
(1986).


Leonard Corwin
Fort Dodge Animal Health
Princeton NJ 08543-0400




From: lakis-at-sol1.lrsm.upenn.edu (Rollin Lakis)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:52:53 -0400
Subject: Want to Rent Microtome Time, Long Island NY vicinity

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We are more than an hour from Brookhaven, but can help if you can't find a
place closer.

Good Luck,
Rollin

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From: r.g.white-at-sci.monash.edu.au (Rosemary White)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 08:16:25 +1200
Subject: dry glutaraldehyde

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Dear all,

Does anyone know of a source of glutaraldehyde powder? We would like to
try glut in acetone and other solvents for freeze-substitution, but glut
comes only in ethanol as far as I can tell. I suppose we could dry it down
from 70% solution, or does this alter it chemically??

TIA,


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From: Roberta K. Brabec :      brabec-at-umich.edu
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:14:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: TEM cultured cells prep

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Hello, I just read a reply to your inquiry. I have prepared cultured
cells, too. I suggest initially using a rubber policeman pushing with
constant pressure..and not lifting anymore than necessary to get sheets of
cells off the dish. Use the solution in dish to flush cells to one edge. I
then use a large bore pipette to pick up cells and place into a microfuge
(Eppendorf) tube, let the cellular material settle for a minute or two.
Then take off the supernatant, leaving cells and just enough solution to
keep them covered. Now add your fixatice, ten times the cellular volume,
gently mixing. I usually used a modified Karnovsky in buffer for our
cells, then centrifuge at a low speed, about 500 rpms, for 10 minutes. If
you have enough cells to have a pellet then you don't have to add agar.
Continue to fix for at least an hour. If your pellet is large, you will
need to loosen it carefully so subsequent solutions can get in from top
and bottom. If pellet size is small, all processing can be done in the
tube, even the embedding. Just don't fill tube to top, for the
polymerizing step, with more media than one would put into a BEEM capsule.
After polymerizing, the tube can be cut off and the sides can be trimmed
flat to fit into a microtome chuck.

I found that if I first fixed the cells, then tried to scrape them,
that too many of them were ruptured. It may be that your cells are not
so fragile. Anyway, I then would only recommend a very brief fix before
scraping. Kaye


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From: Fatima Merchant :      merchant-at-persci.com
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:29:14 -0500
Subject: 3-CCD RGB Camera

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Hi All:

I am looking to use a 3-CCD RGB camera that will integrate
for at least 5 seconds.

I need to use it to image 3-color FISH samples.

I was wondering if anyone out there has any experience with
3-CCD RGB cameras and can give me some information on
a camera that will perform well in terms of resolution, image quality, etc.

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From: Peiyi WANG :      pw2-at-soton.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:49:30 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: Superalloy/TEM

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Hi Jordi,

We use a twin-jet electropolishing unit to prepare TEM foils of
superalloy. We tested several polishing solutions employing a variety
of conditions. The best results for our alloys (SRR99 and Udimet 720)
were obtained in the use of a solution and condition as following:

Solution: 25% Nitric acid in 75% Methanol
Current 0.10 mA
Voltage 34~36 V
Temperature -35 ~ -45 0C

Good Luck!


Peiyi Wang

Research Fellow
Dept. of Engineering Materials
University of Southampton
Southampton SO17 1BJ
UK

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From: Andy Duft :      andyd-at-mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:07:10 -0500 (EST)
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Our lab does a lot of work with semiconductors. My concern is with the
preparation of InP, InGaAsP, GaAs, GaP, etc. What are the hazards with
these materials? What sort of precautions are required when cutting,
grinding and polishing the wafers? I'm finding it difficult finding any
safety related information regarding the use of these materials in an EM
lab.
Thanks in advance.

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Date: 11/6/97 17:05
Subject: TEM - Semiconductor Sample Prep Safety

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I have lots of experience preparing GaP and GaAs TEM samples. One precaution,
GaP reacts with water to produce phosphine, a particularly nasty gas. Phosphine
is pyrophoric, so don't be surprised if your samples explode on you if you core
out 3 mm disks using an ultrasonic disk grinder. It's happened to me on several
occasions. Also, do all your sample prep in a fume hood. While the levels of
phosphine emitted by the sample are small (so I assume since I haven't killed
myself, yet). You'll get a painful headache from small exposures to the gas.
For GaAs, I'm unaware of any similar health issues and have had no difficulties
working with this material on an open bench top.

Good luck !

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Our lab does a lot of work with semiconductors. My concern is with the
preparation of InP, InGaAsP, GaAs, GaP, etc. What are the hazards with
these materials? What sort of precautions are required when cutting,
grinding and polishing the wafers? I'm finding it difficult finding any
safety related information regarding the use of these materials in an EM
lab.
Thanks in advance.

Andy



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Brockhouse Institute for Materials Research
McMaster University
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Canada L8S 4M1

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From: ROBERT WILLIS :      WILLIS.ROBERT-at-EPAMAIL.EPA.GOV
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:12:26 -0600
Subject: ultrafine particles

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Fellow microscopists:

I 've been asked if it's possible to use microscopy to count ultrafine
particles (smaller than 0.1 microns) and to measure their size
distributions in an automated fashion. The primary goal is to characterize
ultrafines in ambient air. Particles larger than 0.1 microns are typically
collected on a screen membrane such as polycarbonate. Most of the
ultrafines however would pass through the smallest pores in
screen-type membranes. My question is really two-fold: 1) Is it even
possible to collect ultrafines for microscopy, and 2) Which technique
would be best suited to count and size the ultrafines -- SEM, FE-SEM,
TEM, AFM? Or should we just forget microscopy and purchase some
particle sizing/counting instrumentation? Thanks for your ideas.






From: South Bay Technology :      Henriks-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 22:40:04 -0500
Subject: TEM/SEM: Plasma Cleaning Workshop

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South Bay Technology, Inc. is offering a series of TEM Sample Preparation=

Workshops which will be kicked off with a workshop on RF Plasma Cleaning
for TEM and SEM applications. This workshop will be held on Monday
December 1, 1997 in Boston, MA.

For a detailed workshop description and registration information on the
Plasma Cleaning workshop, please contact me off line and I will forward t=
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Other upcoming workshops include:

Tripod Polishing for TEM March 13-14, 1998 San Clemente, CA
Low Energy on Milling March 12, 1998 San Clemente, CA
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For information on any of these workshops, please contact me.

Thank you!

Best regards-

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From: South Bay Technology :      Henriks-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 22:40:04 -0500
Subject: TEM/SEM: Plasma Cleaning Workshop

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TEM Sample Preparation Workshops

South Bay Technology, Inc. is offering a series of TEM Sample Preparation=

Workshops which will be kicked off with a workshop on RF Plasma Cleaning
for TEM and SEM applications. This workshop will be held on Monday
December 1, 1997 in Boston, MA.

For a detailed workshop description and registration information on the
Plasma Cleaning workshop, please contact me off line and I will forward t=
he
information to you.

Other upcoming workshops include:

Tripod Polishing for TEM March 13-14, 1998 San Clemente, CA
Low Energy on Milling March 12, 1998 San Clemente, CA
Plasma Cleaning for TEM March 11, 1998 San Clemente, CA
MicroCleave Techniques =

for TEM Sample Preparation March 10, 1998 San Clemente, CA

For information on any of these workshops, please contact me.

Thank you!

Best regards-

David =

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From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 97 22:47:15 -0500
Subject: Silica particle sample preparation

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Oldrich Benada wrote:
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I need some advice. I was asked to do some analysis of silica particles
(size distribution) for chemist in our institute. Particle size should be in
the range of 3 to 6 um. I do not have any experiences with such sample.
Could someone give me a tip how to prepare sample for TEM (or SEM)?
======================================================
The problem is that those pesky silica particles don't know that they are
supposed to separate and stay away from each other when dispersed in a
liquid followed by a droplet of this liquid suspension being placed on a
solid surface. They tend to agglomerate very quickly leading to a difficult-
to-analyze situation, especially using automated means of analysis. You are
correct in that the size range expected could be on the order of 3-6 nm.

This is the ideal application for the camphor/naphthalene method which I
described several years ago. Credit for the technique, or at least the one
who taught it to me was an innovative microscopist then working at the
DuPont Experimental Station in Wilmington, DE by the name of Robert P.
Schatz, in about 1968, now deceased. Take a 60% camphor/40% naphthalene
mixture and heat it to twenty or so degrees above room temperature on a hot
plate in a small beaker or flask, the two organics are miscible in each
other and this is the eutectic composition.

Once a clear liquid, add a small amount of the silica (not more than 0.1%),
which disperses quite readily. Then, using a pipette, take out some liquid
and put a drop onto a carbon coated glass slide, at which time the drop is
instantly frozen solid (it is at room temperature). Put the slide into your
vacuum evaporator to pump out all night, and the "magic" is that the solid
eutectic sublimes at room temperature at a rate that by morning, it is
completely gone, leaving the silica particles uniformly dispersed on the
carbon film!

The rest is obvious. You can pick this up on a grid, as is, or in order to
bring out more contrast, Pt/C shadow, probably using an angle not more than
30 degrees. You can float the "replica" off of the slide directly onto a
grid and viola! you have particles completely dispersed, virtually no
doublets or triplets, and a field quite amenable for automated image
analysis (as a bonus).

One important further suggestion: Some times these silica particles tend to
fuse together as little "chains". If you suspect this is happening, be sure
to take the micrographs as stereo pairs because you can in fact capture this
three dimensional spatial information.

Disclaimer: We do not sell either the camphor or naphthalene so have no
vested interest in whether people use this method or not. It is just a
really neat method for the preparation of fine particle samples in this size
range. We are obviously set up to use this method as a service for others,
however.

Chuck

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From: Mary Mager :      mager-at-unixg.ubc.ca
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 20:07:19 -0800
Subject: Re: Film thickness monitors

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Dear Martin,
I believe the film thickness monitors are quartz crystal oscillators that
have the characteristic of changing their frequency of oscillation as their
mass changes. As you evaporate carbon onto the monitor its mass goes up and
the frequency of oscillation goes down. I don't know about the requirements
of NAMAS or ISO.
You wrote:
}
} Can anybody explain to me exactly how a film thickness
} monitor for Au and C coating works. I understand it consists of an
} oscillating crystal -what is it made of? I have heard accuracy is
} poor but reproducability is good using same conditions (time,
} current, working distance etc.).
} Thickness of C is important from the point of view of
} quantitative analysis and that unknowns must be coated with the
} same thickness as the reference standards. Is it sufficient to
} say to NAMAS or ISO accreditors that the same coating conditions were
} used for the standards as well as unknowns.
} Many thanks in advance.
}
} Martin J. Roe
} MLURI
} Craigiebuckler
} Aberdeen
} AB158QH
} Scotland
Regards,
Mary
Mary Mager
Electron Microscopist
Metals and Materials Engineering
University of British Columbia
6350 Stores Road
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4
CANADA
tel: 604-822-5648
fax: 604-822-3619
e-mail: mager-at-interchg.ubc.ca





From: Mary Mager :      mager-at-unixg.ubc.ca
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 20:11:24 -0800
Subject: Re: TEM - Semiconductor Sample Prep Safety

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Dear Andy,
When we worked with GaAs the only precautions were to gather all bits for
proper disposal and avoid generating or inhaling any dust, ie. grind and
polish wet. Also avoid excess heating because of the possibility of driving
off As.
You wrote:

} Our lab does a lot of work with semiconductors. My concern is with the
} preparation of InP, InGaAsP, GaAs, GaP, etc. What are the hazards with
} these materials? What sort of precautions are required when cutting,
} grinding and polishing the wafers? I'm finding it difficult finding any
} safety related information regarding the use of these materials in an EM
} lab.
} Thanks in advance.
}
} Andy

} Andy M. Duft
} Brockhouse Institute for Materials Research
} McMaster University
} 1280 Main St. West
} Hamilton Ontario
} Canada L8S 4M1
}
} 905-525-9140, X24609
Regards,
Mary
Mary Mager
Electron Microscopist
Metals and Materials Engineering
University of British Columbia
6350 Stores Road
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4
CANADA
tel: 604-822-5648
fax: 604-822-3619
e-mail: mager-at-interchg.ubc.ca





From: wise-at-vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 16:32:48 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: TEM - Semiconductor Sample Prep Safety

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Thanks to all who answered my question about interaction volumes, X-rays,
and BSEs.

Stephanie Wind McCray (Moltech Corp) probably had the best answer (or at
least the one I understood the best), "keep in mind that backscattered
electrons are electrons, and x-rays are photons. There are somewhat
different rules for their relative travels through matters of varying
atomic numbers" There were a lot of other good answers too.

So (he says with a light bulb over his head), this is why hospitals take
X-ray photographs of broken bones and not electron-graphs.

Thanks again

Bob

Dr. Robert R. Wise
Department of Biology
University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
Oshkosh, WI 54901

(920) 424-3404 tel
(920) 424-1101 fax
wise-at-uwosh.edu






From: hiltrud-at-ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Hiltrud Mueller-Sigmund)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:47:17 +0200
Subject: looking for thin section storage boxes

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Hello everybody,
a question to the mineralogists on the list:
as the German provider (Krantz) for storage boxes for mineralogical
standard thin sections cannot provide them any longer I am looking for some
other source, preferably in Europe.
What I call "standard thin sections" are 28 x 48 mm sized.
Thank you in advance
Hiltrud

Dr. Hiltrud Mueller-Sigmund
Institut fuer Mineralogie, Petrologie und Geochemie
Albertstrasse 23b, 79104 Freiburg (Germany)
Tel.: (+49)-203-6388/-6396 Fax: -6407






From: Walck. Scott D. :      walck-at-ppg.com
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 97 11:33:00 PST
Subject: Re: Film thickness monitors

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I gave a paper at the ICMCTF-93 meeting entitled,

"Calibration of an Off-Axis Quartz Crystal Thickness Monitor for a Pulsed
Laser Deposition System Using a High Resolution Scanning Electron
Microscope", S. D. Walck, J. S. Zabinski, M. S. Donley, and J. E. Bultman,
Thin Solid Films, 236, pp. 125-9, 1993.

If you look that paper up, I bleive that there are two excellent references
in there on how a thickness monitor works. One of them is a journal article
that apparently is a classic and the other is a reference manual for the XTC
quartz crystal thickness monitors. These references talk about some of the
limitiations on the technique and accuracies etc. I would give you the
references myself, but my papers are still boxed up from my move to PPG
-sorry. You could contact Jeff Zabinski at Wright Patterson AFB and get a
reprint of that paper since they have it on file there. He can be reached
vis Email at
zabinsj-at-ml.wpafb.af.mil

-Scott Walck

Scott D. Walck
PPG Industries, Inc.
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(412) 820-8161 (fax)


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From: Virginia Tanner Crocker :      vtanner-at-codon.nih.gov
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:29:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: TEM Grids

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Good Afternoon,
I've enjoyed reading the many postings on the Microscopy Listserver. Now
I have a question for all of you...

Has anyone noticed a change in the quality of TEM Grids?

For years we've ordered our TEM grids from Biorad.... We've used the
Thin bar Hexagonal 460 mesh copper and nickel grids for years. They were
always very clean, very consistent in thin bar width, and of excellent
quality.

Now that they are no longer selling them, we've been trying grids from
several sources. I have done a comparison of grids from different
companies. A number of them are close, but not quite as thin as the
original Biorad grids. Others have too much variation in grid width (even
within the same vial) and some are unacceptable, too wide, more like
normal grid bars, and not thin bars....

Does anyone know the original source of the grids that Biorad used to sell?
None of the companies we've tried have the quality we are looking for...
some are close, but even within the same vial of grids, we've found too
much variation in the grid bar width.

Thank you for your assistance,

Virginia Tanner Crocker


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From: Andrew Buechele :      andrew-at-rsrch.vsl.cua.edu
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:56:44 EST
Subject: Haydinger's Cross

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There is a description of the phenomenon of "Haidinger's brush" (or
cross) in "Condepts of Classical Optics" by John Strong, Freeman, San
Francisco, 1958, P.111f. He quotes from a book by Minnaert, "The
Nature of Light in the Open Air," Dover, New York. It demonstrates
the ability of the naked eye to percieve polarization in light and
the orientation of the plane of polarization. To quote from Minnaert:
"If you have a Nicol (prism) at your disposal,then look through it at
a white cloud - or at an evenly illuminated (white) surface and try
to distinguish the figure by the fact that the it revolves when the
Nicol is rotated......."
"Haidenger's brush is caused by the dichroism of the yellow spot
on our retina. That all observers do not, apparently, see this
remarkable figure in the same way no doubt depends on the difference
in shape and structure of this yellow spot...."
Hope this helps.
All the best,
Andy
Andy Buechele
The Catholic University of America
409 Hannan Hall
Washington, D.C. 20064
(202) 319-4995 FAX: (202) 319-4469




From: EM Lab :      EMLAB-at-vet.ksu.edu
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:51:53 CST6CDT
Subject: SEM of Seeds

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We have recently received samples of freeze-dried guar seeds for SEM
processing. The researcher would like the seeds cut in half and
evaluated with SEM. In their current state, the seeds crumble when
cut. If anyone has any suggestions for processing, we could use the
help!

Thanks in advance,
Beckie Anderson
Kansas State University
College of Veterinary Medicine
Department of Diagnostic Medicine/Pathobiology
Electron Microscopy Laboratory




From: valdemar :      valdemar-at-fast.net
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 01:15:49 -0500
Subject: MISC. How to segregate MSA mail - thank you.

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Thank you to Massimo Sassaroli, Rober Mixon, Richard Mount, Stephan
Coetzee, Stephen Griffiths, and others who responded to the query on how to
segregate the MSA e-mail from the rest.

With the help, I was able to set the IE e-mail browser ("Internet Mail and
News") to recognize the "microscopy" keyword in either the "TO:" or the
"CC" - fields which are invisible by default. It has worked without a
glitch for a week now, so no need to try a different browser. It mystifies
me why it has worked in few circumstances as I'm unable to manually find
the keyword in either of the fields - maybe "it's a feature and not a bug",
but that's beside the point.

Thank you.

Valdemar
valdemar-at-fast.net




From: tom moninger :      moninger-at-emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:28:53 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: dry glutaraldehyde

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Electron Microscopy Sciences has Anhydrous Glut. (10% in acetone) in 10ml
ampules, cat# 16530.

Tom

Thomas Moninger moninger-at-emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu
University of Iowa Central Microscopy Research Facility
http://www.uiowa.edu/~cemrf
Views expressed are mine.
On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Rosemary White wrote:

}
} Dear all,
}
} Does anyone know of a source of glutaraldehyde powder? We would like to
} try glut in acetone and other solvents for freeze-substitution, but glut
} comes only in ethanol as far as I can tell. I suppose we could dry it down
} from 70% solution, or does this alter it chemically??
}
} TIA,
}
}
} Rosemary White
} Department of Biological Sciences
} Monash University, Melbourne, Victoria 3168, Australia
} phone 61-3-9905 5670
} fax 61-3-9905 5613 email r.g.white-at-sci.monash.edu.au
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From: kszaruba-at-MMM.COM
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 13:12:36 -0600
Subject: Re: Uranyl acetate.

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Please post responses to the list; I want to be safe too! :)
Karen

o.oshea-at-queens-belfast.ac.uk wrote:
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} Would anyone know details of suppliers where Uranyl acetate can be obtained
} already in solution i.e. a saturated solution in 50% ethanol. We previously
} made this up ourselves from dry powder and ethanol, but we are trying to
} reduce the potential hazzard to health by purchasing ready made solution.
} Thanks on advance
} Orla O'Shea, Dept of Anatomy, QUB
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From: Daraporn Arayasantiparb :      darayasa-at-stevens-tech.edu
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:51:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Philips CM20

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Dear All,

I have a question maybe someone could help me... I want to measure
the size of my probe, but I collected the wrong image... i.e., I collected
the image of the probe in the diffraction mode... Is it possible to find
actual size of the probe? I think if I know the distance between the
objective aperture and the selected area aperture and the point of
convergence of the convergence angle, I should be able to calculate it
from there... but where can I find all these information?... Can anyone
help me?

Your suggestions is greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,
Daraporn Arayasantiparb





From: Dale Callaham :      dac-at-bio.umass.edu
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:02:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: SEM - algal cell prep help req.

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Hi.

I've done preps of individual cells on filters before with no particular
problems. This one has me stumped.

I'm trying to get a prep of Scenedesmus cells onto a filter membrane for
fixation, CPD, sputtering. Seems straightforward. These cells fly away from
the Nucleopore (PC) or Millipore (cellulose ester) membranes when I transfer
to a liquid after depositing the cells by gentle suction. One protocol I
tried called for poly-L-lysine treated glass, but the cells failed to stick
to this also. The microbiologist who is involved tells me that the cell
surface is nearly pure cellulose and does not have the substances that give
a negative charge and would make the polylysine work. SOME cells do stick to
the filter surface but many do not and we don't know if this gives a
selection for a subset (and we want to see them all).

Are algae this different? Are there tricks with the polylysine? Is there
another method?

If anyone has any suggestions that could help me I would really appreciate
hearing them.

Thanks in advance!

Dale Callaham (dac-at-bio.umass.edu)
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dale A. Callaham
Central Microscopy Facility
The University of Massachusetts
Amherst, MA 01003
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From: Gib Ahlstrand :      giba-at-puccini.crl.umn.edu
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:08:42 -0600
Subject: AFM: MMS meeting

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Minnesota Microscopy Society Meeting
November 20, 1997, Thursday

Atomic Force Microscopy & Related Techniques:
Introduction, Instrumentation & Application to Polymeric Materials
by Inga Holl Musselman,
Assistant Professor of Chemistry, University of Texas, Dallas

University of Minnesota, St. Paul Campus
Student Center, The Pendergast Room

5:30 - 6:00 Social with Appetizers
Cheese - Crackers - Hot Apple Cider

6:00 - 7:00 Customized Dinner Buffet
Broiled Salmon Fillet
Stir Fry Vegetable Blend - Au Gratin Potatoes
Orange Almond Salad with Poppyseed Dressing
Coffee, Tea, Milk - Dessert

7:00 - 8:00 Presentation, Inga Holl Musselman

Atomic force microscopy (AFM) was introduced by Binnig, Quate and Gerber in
1986. In this method, a sample is scanned beneath a small probe attached to the
apex of a flexible cantilever. Cantilever deflection is measured to give height
information corresponding to the sample topography. Since AFM relies on
tip-sample force interaction, the technique can be applied to insulators as well
as to conducting and semiconducting materials. AFM therefore extends local
probe studies to an important class of materials which can be difficult to
investigate by electron microscopy and spectroscopy techniques owing to problems
with sample charging.

During the past decade, related force microscopy methods have been developed to
facilitate the study of surfaces in a variety of environments using a number of
contrast mechanisms. Among others, these methods include contact, non-contact
and TappingMode atomic force microscopy, lateral force microscopy, force
modulation, phase imaging, electrostatic force microscopy, magnetic force
microscopy, scanning capacitance microscopy, scanning near-field optical
microscopy, and scanning near-field thermal microscopy. This presentation will
review the theory and instrumentation for some of these microscopy methods and
will emphasize their application to polymer materials.

Biography: Inga Holl Musselman is an Assistant Professor of Chemistry at the
University of Texas at Dallas. She received a Ph.D. in Analytical Chemistry in
1988 from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Her Ph.D. research
project, concerning molecular and quantitative aspects of laser microprobe mass
spectrometry (LAMMS), was conducted at the National Institute of Standards and
Technology. During a postdoc in the Department of Materials Science and
Engineering and Precision Engineering Center at North Carolina State University,
her research efforts concerned the fabrication of controlled geometry tips for
scanning tunneling microscopy (STM) (patent and license awarded). In
collaboration with Hoechst Celanese, she also investigated the application of
scanned probe techniques to the characterization of polymer surfaces. Currently,
Dr. Musselman's research group is investigating the fundamentals of STM image
contrast. In addition, they are using atomic force microscopy and other
microscopy methods to characterize the microstructure of synthetic and
biopolymers including gas separation membranes and paired helical filaments from
Alzheimers diseased brains.

PLEASE MAKE RESERVATIONS by November 18th.
Contact: Gib Ahlstrand at (612)625-8249, 625-9728FAX, or:
giba-at-puccini.crl.umn.edu.

Dinner and Social Hour: $10.00 per person, payable at the door. Free for current
student members or with new sudent membership,payable at the door. Presentation
is free for those who come later for the talk only.

Social hour, dinner and the presentation will all be held in the Pendergast
Room, second floor level of the St. Paul Campus Dining Center (across hall from
Cherrywood Room) of the University of Minnesota. This location will be familiar
to some who have attended our meetings there before. Parking is available in the
lots indicated with cross-hatching below:


Directions: From I-94, take I-280 a few miles north and exit onto Larpenteur
Ave., go eastbound 1 mile to Cleveland Ave. plus 1 block to Gortner Ave. From
I-35W or Hiway 36 take Cleveland Ave. south to Larpenteur, turn left go 1 block
to Gortner Ave.
Turn right onto Gortner and go south to Buford Ave., turn right , go 1 block to
Buford Circle, turn right and proceed 1 block to parking lots (see map). Enter
Dining Center as indicated.


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From: :      yoyodine-at-UNM.EDU
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:29:39 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: Haydinger's Cross

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On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Andrew Buechele wrote:

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} There is a description of the phenomenon of "Haidinger's brush" (or
} cross) in "Condepts of Classical Optics" by John Strong, Freeman, San
} Francisco, 1958, P.111f. He quotes from a book by Minnaert, "The
} Nature of Light in the Open Air," Dover, New York. It demonstrates
} the ability of the naked eye to percieve polarization in light and
} the orientation of the plane of polarization. To quote from Minnaert:
} "If you have a Nicol (prism) at your disposal,then look through it at
} a white cloud - or at an evenly illuminated (white) surface and try
} to distinguish the figure by the fact that the it revolves when the
} Nicol is rotated......."
} "Haidenger's brush is caused by the dichroism of the yellow spot
} on our retina. That all observers do not, apparently, see this
} remarkable figure in the same way no doubt depends on the difference
} in shape and structure of this yellow spot...."
} Hope this helps.
} All the best,
} Andy
} Andy Buechele
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} 409 Hannan Hall
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} (202) 319-4995 FAX: (202) 319-4469
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There is another description of what is called an "Optic Axis Interference
Figure" in Nesse, William D, Introduction to Optical Mineralogy, Second
Edition 1991, Oxford university press. While I realize the application
may be different, the figure is the same (caused the same way) and the
book gives a somewhat detailed account of how the figure (cross) is
formed, and what the colors (blue and yellow) and the positions of the
colors in the cross mean. Along with a description of how these crosses
are used to help identify minerals in petrographic sections (though most
of you could probably care less :)).

Hope it helps,
Christopher.





From: wise-at-vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 15:32:08 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Uranyl acetate.

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Reichert makes an automatic grid stainer that uses prepared stains (called
the "Ultrostainer"). Maybe they would be a potential supplier for premixed
uranium stains.

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From: John Arnott :      ladres-at-worldnet.att.net
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 16:44:35 -0500
Subject: Re: dry glutaraldehyde

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Rosemary White wrote:
}
}
} Dear all,
}
} Does anyone know of a source of glutaraldehyde powder? We would like to
} try glut in acetone and other solvents for freeze-substitution, but glut
} comes only in ethanol as far as I can tell. I suppose we could dry it down
} from 70% solution, or does this alter it chemically??
}

Dear Rosemary,

Glutaraldehyde monomer is notoriously unstable in aqueoussolutions above
70%. Glut polymerizes at high concentraions and is next to impossible to
depolymerize. For these reasons I believe it would be inadvisable to
dehydrate your 70% Glut.
We at Ladd currently offer 20% Glut in anhydrous methanol (catalog #
20257 & 20258). We have produced a wide variety of glutaraldehyde
combinations through the years and would be willing to prepare some glut
in acetone and in other solvents.
If you are interested please contact me direct and we can work out the
particulars.

Dr. Charles Duvic
Ladd Research
13 Dorset Lane
Williston, VT 05495 USA
tel 1-802-878-6711
fax 1-802-878-8074
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From: Randy Tindall :      rtindell-at-NMSU.Edu
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:49:43 -0700
Subject: SEM/EDS/Fiberglass

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Greetings to All,

I've recently been handed a sample consisting of dust collected near a
suspected pollution source. The sample was picked up on cotton swabs in an
extremely non-scientific manner (off the hood of a car in the desert, and
they want to know if silicon is present---go figure), and the client is
looking for fiberglass particles, among other things. I have found fibers
in the sample about 10-12 microns in diameter which resemble SEM photos I
have seen of fiberglass.

My question is this: What elements would one expect to find in fiberglass,
other than (obviously) silicon? I'm aware of calcium and aluminum being
used in glass, but are there other commonly used elements? Specifically,
barium? (5 distinct Ba peaks in this one!)

The sample is on a carbon stub using carbon adhesive tape. We're using a
variable pressure SEM with 7 Pa of pressure. The EDS on the fibers is
being done in spot analysis mode at a mag of 3000x. I'm reasonably
confident that most of the signal is coming from the fiber itself, allowing
of course for beam skirting, etc.

Thanks in advance for any advice.


Randy Tindall
Electron Microscope Laboratory
Box 3EML
New Mexico State University
Las Cruces, NM 88003




From: Martin J. Roe :      mi596-at-mluri.sari.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 19:34:53 +0000
Subject: Film monitors -thankyou

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Thank you to all the people who responded to my question about
how film thickness monitors work. I am now a lot more knowlegeable
about the subject.
All your replies were greatly appreciated.

Kind regards

Martin J. Roe

MLURI
Craigiebuckler
Aberdeen
AB158QH
Scotland
U.K.






From: L. Kirstein :      NESM-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 13:54:04 -0500
Subject: NESM December Meeting

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The New England Society for Microscopy (NESM) presents its 31st Annual Fa=
ll
Symposium and Business Meeting on December 5, 1997 at the Hyatt Regency
Cambridge, 575 Memorial Drive, Cambridge, MA 02139, Tel. (617) 492-1234.

PROGRAM:
Friday, December 5, 1997

Session I =

9:00 am Registration and Continental Breakfast
Note: The Registration Desk will close at 10:45 am and
reopen for =

Session II from 1:00 to 1:30 pm

9:55 am Welcome =

Ann Hein, NESM President

10:00am "Characterization of Graphitic Carbon Spheres and Tubes
Synthesized =

by a Mixed-Valent Oxide Catalytic Carbonization Process"
Dr. Z. L. Wang
School of Material Science and Engineering
Georgia Institute of Technology

11:00am "Pathology of Laser Tissue Interaction"
Thomas J. Flotte, MD
Associate Professor of Dermatology, =

Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA
Director of Dermatopathology, Massachusetts General
Hospital
=

12:15pm Luncheon with wine: Poached Atlantic Salmon, Chicken
Picatta, or =

Vegetarian selections
=

Session II =

1:00 pm Registration =


1:30 pm "Characterization of Translucent Polycrystalline Alumina
Using SEM, =

Electron Probe and TEM" =

Dr. George Wei, Osram Sylvania

2:15 pm "Confocal Microscopy of Live Subjects"
Robert H. Webb
Wellman Laboratories of Photomedicine, MGH
Schepens Eye Research Institute, Boston, MA

3:00 pm Coffee Break

3:15 pm "What Project MICRO Can Do For You"
Caroline Schooley, MSA Education Outreach Coordinator
=

NESM Annual Business Meeting
4:15 pm Counting of Ballots =

Reading of Minutes of 1996 Annual Business Meeting =

Report of the President
Report of the Treasurer
Introduction of New Officers
=

5:00 pm Adjournment
Louis Kerr, Incoming NESM President

For more information or to register, contact L. Kirstein at
NESM-at-compuserve.com =

or by phone at (508) 473-9673. (Please include your fax number if you ha=
ve
not =

received our November newsletter). =





From: Stephen A. Shaffer :      sshaffer-at-microdataware.com
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:48:18 -0800
Subject: Re: SEM/EDS/Fiberglass

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Randy Tindall wrote:

{snip}

} The sample was picked up on cotton swabs in an
} extremely non-scientific manner (off the hood of a car in the desert, and
} they want to know if silicon is present---go figure)

Carnack says, "Yes!"

} ... the client is looking for fiberglass particles, among other things.

Randy, how can I put this? Um, "you're driving a thumb tack in with a
sledge hammer?" Or, perhaps.... Nevermind. An SEM with EDXA is
overkill for finding fiberglass. It is a trivial task with a polarized
light microscope as all glass is transparent and isotropic and various
other fibrous materials are either opaque or birefringent. In addition,
the morphology will tell you if it is mineral wool, a course fibrous
glass used most often in insulation, or true fiberglass, a more
carefully prepared fibrous glass product used in a wider range of
applications. The size you mention (10-12 microns) is certainly within
the range one can encounter with either of these products, or other
fibrous materials.

If you still have a bit of the swab(s) left, I would suggest the
following. Place a portion of the soiled swab in a small centrifuge
tube, add a bit of water with dilute detergent, ultasonicate for a few
minutes, remove the swab, centrifuge, wash a couple of times, re-suspend
and pipet a bit of the particulate debris onto a microscope slide.
Mount in virtually anything and examine under a PLM with slightly
uncrossed polars. Look for isotropic, fibrous strands. It takes longer
to describe than it does to do!


} My question is this: What elements would one expect to find in fiberglass,
} other than (obviously) silicon? I'm aware of calcium and aluminum being
} used in glass, but are there other commonly used elements? Specifically,
} barium? (5 distinct Ba peaks in this one!)
}

But on the other hand, if an SEM is all you have....

As I mentioned, mineral wool is a fairly crude product. Consequently,
it can contain a lot of "junk" elements, among them Ca, K, Na, Al, Mg,
Fe, S, Cl. I don't know about barium but nothing would surprise me.
Because of the elemental "ambiguity" of fibrous glass, PLM is really the
way to go here.

Reference (of course): The Particle Atlas Electronic Edition.

--

Stephen A. Shaffer
MicroDataware
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From: :      yoyodine-at-UNM.EDU
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 13:44:55 -0700 (MST)
Subject: rebuilt filaments

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We are looking for sources for rebuilt Filaments for a JEOL 5800LV SEM.
Can anyone give us info on this?? (Where to get them and how much they
are if possible).


Thanx
Christopher





From: Frank Macaluso :      macaluso-at-aecom.yu.edu
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:31:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Excessive dust in EM rooms

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Has anyone had experience with eliminating excessive amounts of dust in
their EM rooms?

I moved into a newly renovated suite of rooms over a year ago. Since that
time we have been plagued by dust and dirt. It has become almost impossible
to maintain uncontaminated grids or negatives and prints without dust or
scratches. For example you cannot leave a negative on a light box overnight
because it is covered by a thin film of dust by the next day.

The Engineering department had the ductwork cleaned and higher efficiency
filters installed on the fan units supplying air to the suite during
renovations. They claim the supply air is the same quality as that in my
previous location in another building (where excessive dust was not a problem).

An outside consultant has monitored the rooms and found particle counts
between 20,000 and 50,000 in the 0.5 micron size range, per cubic foot.
They recommend installing HEPA filters on all supply air ducts to reach
class 1,000 conditions.

The Engineering department is reluctant to install 10 or more HEPA filter
units due to the cost and the necessary ductwork reworking. They claim the
supply air is clean and the filters will not solve the problem. They would
like to install electrostatic particle precipitators in each room to scrub
the air clean.

Does anybody have any experience with electrostatic precipitators and which
type is best?

Is there a standard for airborne particles within a microscopy facility?

Is the class 1,000 condition recommended by the consultant excessive?

We are about to begin renovations for our light microscope area which will
have a number of digital imaging stations in addition to film and video.
What recommendations can I make to engineering in the design of the HVAC
system to address this issue during construction?

Sorry for the excessive bandwidth of this message but I wanted to be as
explicit as possible.

Thanks in advance for your help,
Frank Macaluso
****************************************************************************
Frank Macaluso tel: 718-430-3547
Analytical Imaging Facility fax: 718-430-8996
Albert Einstein College of Medicine e-mail: macaluso-at-aecom.yu.edu
1300 Morris Park Avenue
Bronx, NY 10461
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From: Stephen A. Shaffer :      sshaffer-at-microdataware.com
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:45:51 -0800
Subject: Re: Excessive dust in EM rooms

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Frank Macaluso wrote:

} Has anyone had experience with eliminating excessive amounts of dust in
} their EM rooms?
}

Frank, better responses may be forthcoming from others, but one quick
thought occured to me. You might ask your Engineers if the return air
passes through a "plenum" above the ceiling or below the floor. This is
just a fancy word for saying that the open space (above or below) acts
as the return duct. If this is the case, and it often is, that might be
the source of a large part of your problem. You've probably seen, or
can imagine, the cleanliness of these areas! If so, regardless of
filtration systems, you should probably start with a dedicated HVAC
system for the microscopy rooms and incorporating duct work for both
supply and return sides. Then add filtration as necessary to achieve
acceptable cleanliness. It may be that, in your circumstances, Class
1000 is more than really necessary but you're probably in for some
expensive retrofitting in any event.

--

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From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 97 21:55:30 -0500
Subject: Is it affects or effects the way things adhere?

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-- [ From: Garber, Charles A. * EMC.Ver #3.1 ] --

Dale Callaham wrote:
===================================================
I'm trying to get a prep of Scenedesmus cells onto a filter membrane for
fixation, CPD, sputtering. Seems straightforward. These cells fly away from
the Nucleopore (PC) or Millipore (cellulose ester) membranes when I transfer
to a liquid after depositing the cells by gentle suction
===================================================
While there are no guarantees, you might want to consider the following:

a) Polycarbonate "track etch" (PCTE) membrane filters, irrespective of who
has made them, including the SPI-Pore(tm) membrane filters are treated with
PVP (polyvinylpyrrolidone) to serve as a wetting agent, making the surface
more hydrophilic and enhancing the filtration rates. We have special
requests for supplying the membrane filters without PVP (for several
different reasons) which can be done and apparently, in some instances,
affects the way things adhere. Not wanting to be too commercial about it,
it is my understanding that at least one other supplier of PCTE membrane
filters can supply their products without PVP as well. In order not to
mislead, there are in fact different production processes in use and not all
PCTE membrane filters are identical. This is an instance where if you have
tried one, you have certainly not tried them all. I am not saying this is a
matter of good vs. bad, this is just a matter of membrane filters from
different sources can be expected to behave "different".

b) Silver membrane filters also seem, at least in some instances, to provide
better attachment possiblities than the polymer membranes. I have been
intrigued as to why that is the case, but the silver membranes can be
handled in a surprisingly similar way as are the polymer membrane filters,
anything you can do, including critical point drying, to a polymer membrane
you can do to a silver membrane. A bonus with the use of silver membrane
filters is that much less metallization or no metallization is required. I
have also been told that there are indications that a plasma etching
("cleaning"), presumably because of a removal of adsorbed organics, also
enhanced cell adhesion.

Disclaimer: SPI offers PC and silver membrane filters as well as the a
plasma etcher, details about which can be found on our website below.

Chuck
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From: Debra J. Caires :      enceph-at-encephalitis.org
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 21:11:08 -0700
Subject: TEM: Stool samples: viral identification

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Dear All,

Currently, I am searching for protocols that deal with collecting
stool samples and preparing them for TEM. Does anyone have such an item?
My purpose for using this protocol is to eventually isolate viral structure
in patients with Acute Disseminated Encephalomyelitis.

Thank you,
Debra Caires
The National Encephalitis Foundation

San Jose State University
Biological Sciences
One Washington Square
San Jose, CA 95192
=46AX (408) 298-3263

=7F






From: Peter Hawkes :      hawkes-at-cict.fr (by way of Nestor J. Zaluzec)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 23:23:47 -0600
Subject: EUREM-11 Proceedings will be published.

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The proceedings of EUREM-11 (Dublin 1996) will shortly be published by
CESM, with the full backing of IFSEM. The 3-volume set will be available
for a maximum price of 400 French Francs (approx US$ 70); the exact price
will depend on the number of orders received and since the books will be
printed in France, the price in francs is definitive.

If you are interested, please request an order form from Peter Hawkes
E-mail: hawkes -at-cict.fr or hawkes-at-cemes.fr
Fax: (+33) 562 25 79 99

Be sure to give your fax number or full postal address. Please respond
IMMEDIATELY as we hope to print these proceedings very soon indeed
and only a limited number will be available once orders have been serviced.

Dr Peter W. Hawkes
CEMES-LOE du CNRS
B.P. 4347
31055 TOULOUSE cedex 4 (France)






From: Mary Mager :      mager-at-unixg.ubc.ca
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 21:02:08 -0800
Subject: Re: SEM/EDS/Fiberglass

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Dear Randy,
In my experience in looking at fiberglass, I would expect some Na, which is
a common part of most glasses. The Ba may be from BaSO4, which is a common
whitener or may also be in glass. The fiberglass fibers should be
unnaturally smooth and uniform. Rock wool, which was also mentioned, is very
coarse, more like 20 microns, and dark in color.
You wrote:
} Greetings to All,
}
} I've recently been handed a sample consisting of dust collected near a
} suspected pollution source. The sample was picked up on cotton swabs in an
} extremely non-scientific manner (off the hood of a car in the desert, and
} they want to know if silicon is present---go figure), and the client is
} looking for fiberglass particles, among other things. I have found fibers
} in the sample about 10-12 microns in diameter which resemble SEM photos I
} have seen of fiberglass.
}
} My question is this: What elements would one expect to find in fiberglass,
} other than (obviously) silicon? I'm aware of calcium and aluminum being
} used in glass, but are there other commonly used elements? Specifically,
} barium? (5 distinct Ba peaks in this one!)
}
} The sample is on a carbon stub using carbon adhesive tape. We're using a
} variable pressure SEM with 7 Pa of pressure. The EDS on the fibers is
} being done in spot analysis mode at a mag of 3000x. I'm reasonably
} confident that most of the signal is coming from the fiber itself, allowing
} of course for beam skirting, etc.
}
} Thanks in advance for any advice.
}
}
} Randy Tindall

Regards,
Mary
Mary Mager
Electron Microscopist
Metals and Materials Engineering
University of British Columbia
6350 Stores Road
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4
CANADA
tel: 604-822-5648
fax: 604-822-3619
e-mail: mager-at-interchg.ubc.ca





From: O.Oshea-at-Queens-Belfast.AC.UK
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:08:34 GMT
Subject: Uranyl Acetate.

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Thankyou to those who replied to my query re pre-prepared Uranyl Acetate, I
was asked to post replies to server and here they are. Charles Garber Presidentof SPI Supplies wrote that his company had considered pre-prepared uranyl ace-
tate some years ago but found the cost to be extremely high, another suggestion
was that as Reichert make an automatic grid stainer, they may be able to supply
uranyl acetate in this form. Thanks again, Orla O'Shea.




From: CIARA_MULLAN-at-Non-HP-UnitedKingdom-om2.om.hp.com
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 97 11:13:05 +0000
Subject: Replication techniques and their resolution

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Hello

I am interested in looking at tape heads used in digital data storage systems
via a light interferometry system. We wish to measure parameters such as head
profiles, gap widths and other issues to less than a micron resolution. To do
this accurately we need to know the refractive index of the different materials
in the heads. Some of them are exotic alloys which makes this difficult, and I
am trying to think of alternative techniques to assist us. Coating the samples
would be one idea since the light would be effectively incident upon the same
material but they have a rather fiddly cross section and I am not convinced that
we could coat the samples without any shadowing. Replication seemed like a
good idea, apart from the resolution worries, or would we have the same
shadowing problems? Does anyone have any knowledge about this?


Thanks in advance

Ciara



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From: jss :      jss-at-siva.bris.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:57:51 +0000
Subject: SEM/EDS Fibre glass

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Dear Randy,

It is not uncommon to findphosphates and borates in significantly high
quantities in the fibreglass materials. As to, morphological
identification anisotropy of fibres makes it easy to identify. However
beware that fibres morphology may contain gas bubbles. So btoken fibres
may look jagged with curved edges

Jitu Shah




From: Woody.N.White-at-mcdermott.com
Date: 11/10/97 11:46 AM
Subject: SEM/EDS/Fiberglass

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Randy,

Is it possible to acquire typical samples from the suspected
"pollution source". ...May help narrow the possibilities.

Woody White

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Greetings to All,

I've recently been handed a sample consisting of dust collected
near a suspected pollution source.

{snip}

Randy Tindall
Electron Microscope Laboratory
Box 3EML
New Mexico State University
Las Cruces, NM 88003




From: Energy Beam Sciences, Inc. :      ebs-at-ebsciences.com
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 08:29:41 -0500
Subject: rebuilt filaments

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Dear fellow microscopists,

At 01:44 PM 11/10/97 -0700, Christopher wrote:
} We are looking for sources for rebuilt Filaments for a JEOL 5800LV SEM.
} Can anyone give us info on this?? (Where to get them and how much they
} are if possible).

Energy Beam Sciences has been manufacturing both new and rebuilt filaments
for JEOL SEMs for more than 25 years. I will respond to the pricing
question directly to Christopher and hope the other manufacturers will
follow the same policy {grin}

Best regards,
steven E. Slap, Vice-President
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From: Ming Chen :      mingchen-at-gpu.srv.ualberta.ca
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 08:18:46 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: TEM: Stool samples: viral identification

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Hi Debra,

I do it rountinely in my EM lab for animal clinics.

-use a disposal pipe to pick a tiny sample and dispense in a vial containing
0.5-1 ml of 0.1% glutaraldehyde in buffer, mix the sample well and let it
sits for 15-30 min.

-do negative staining as usual from the supernatant in 1-2% PTA.

Good luck.


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From: shAf :      mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 08:14:39 -0800
Subject: SEM/LaB6: cleaning wehnelt

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I am finding that lifetime for my FEI LaB6 cathode exceed 1000hrs,
but after 100hr the gun becomes unstable (... constant tilt/shift
alignments ...) to the point I have to get into the gun and clean the
wehnelt, which remedies the problem.
The deposits are difficult to remove and I have to resort to judicious
use of diamond paste. I'd much rather find an agent which would remove
these deposits over-night and not attack the SS metal. Has anyone a
better idea??? ... TIA ...


cheerios, shAf
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From: ja94-at-maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 16:54:50 +0100
Subject: info

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Dear Sirs
I am an undergraduate Physicist at King's College London.
As a final year student, we are expected to complete a major laboratory project.We have come up against a problem which we feel is beyond our capabilities.
In order to measure accurately the thickness of some thick films we have made,
we need to interface our TEM with the P.C, via a printer board electronic circiut. We as physics undergrads are unable to write the correct syntax for the
programme for the interface and would be grateful if you could help us with it.
If your archive has the bit we need in "C" please e-mail it to me. If you are
unable to help, thankyou anyway.
Regards, Jennifer Ayriss.




From: ejb11-at-psu.edu (Edward J. Basgall)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:58:42 -0500
Subject: Re: SEM -PCTE filters & PVP.- reply reply

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} -- [ From: Garber, Charles A. * EMC.Ver #3.1 ] --
}
} Your are right, the background is not going to be smooth structureless and
} featureless like on a TE membrane. However, I have seen fragile features on
} certain life science samples that could not survive the level of
} metallization that would other wise be required. I was addressing my
} comments to those kinds of situatons.
}
} What do you think about the belief that there is better attachment to non-
} PVP treated membranes, is that possible or just an old wive's tale?
}
} Chuck

Hi Chuck,
I can't comment on the above belief. You are the first who has mentioned
it to me. I'd have to conduct an empirical comparison between treated and
non-treated, I'd also include poly-L-lysine and collagen treated membranes
as long as I was going to the trouble. Has any of the collective ever
looked at this?

I haven't put any metal on an SEM sample in about a year, I've been doing
uncoated LVFESEM with pretty decent results. Of course I'm not going up to
50,000x either. I need to be able to shuttle back and forth between SEM
and TOF-SIMS instruments.

I do pre-coat some PC membranes with AuPd for conductivity prior to
applying samples. Again, I don't know what adsorbtion changes may be
induced. Particulate samples (yeast) are still present after freeze
drying.

cheers
ed

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From: ejb11-at-psu.edu (Edward J. Basgall)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:19:24 -0500
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} Dear All,
}
} Currently, I am searching for protocols that deal with collecting
} stool samples and preparing them for TEM. Does anyone have such an item?
} My purpose for using this protocol is to eventually isolate viral structure
} in patients with Acute Disseminated Encephalomyelitis.
}
} Thank you,
} Debra Caires
} The National Encephalitis Foundation
}
} San Jose State University
} Biological Sciences
} One Washington Square
} San Jose, CA 95192
} FAX (408) 298-3263
}
Hi Deb,
There are numerous references available on this. I did a poster on the
subject at MSA in 1988, Basgall, E.J., Scherba,G., and Gelberg, H.B.
"Diagnostic Virology in Veterinary Pathology: Techniques for Negative
Staining." I will FAX you a copy of the abstract with references today.

good luck
cheers
ed

Edward J. Basgall, PhD
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From: Scott Whittaker :      sdw-at-biotech.ufl.edu
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:43:57 -0500
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i have archived a recent discussion on this at the following URL (Tips &
Tricks site):

http://www.biotech.ufl.edu/icbr/emcl/db/lab6crud.html


Good luck



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From: ejb11-at-psu.edu (Edward J. Basgall)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:09:27 -0500
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}
} } Ed -
} } Did you make the "bread" part of the sandwich yourself? A lab I
} } worked in ages ago had special Millipore snap-together units to do this
} } same thing; I've never been able to track them down from any vendors. i
} } would like to see how you do this - the homemade sandwiches I've tried
} } always loosen partway through fixation.
} }
} } Thanks!
} }
} } Tamara Howard
} } CSHL
}
} Yes Tamara,
}
} I remember those snap together units. Thomas Scientific (800-345-2100)
} still sells them, CAT # 4626-N20 13mm, p585 in 96-97 catalog. 10/pk list
} price $30. Made from polycarbonate plastic.
}
} No affiliation or financial interest, yadda, yadda, yadda....
}
} I will have the filter sandwich details posted to my website by Friday (11-14)
}
} cheers
} ed
}
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From: shAf :      mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:05:26 -0800
Subject: Re: SEM/LaB6: cleaning wehnelt

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Scott Whittaker wrote:

} i have archived a recent discussion on this at the following URL (Tips &
} Tricks site):
}
} http://www.biotech.ufl.edu/icbr/emcl/db/lab6crud.html
}
} ...

Thanx ... it appears the consensus is dilute HCl for short periods together
with H2O rinses, and I can't imagine this being much of a problem for
stainless steel ... but it *was* strange to see someone else suggest ammonia
... that is, base over an acid attack ... and can I assume the "soap-scum
remover" suggestion is also basic. I can't imagine ammonia being a problem
either, 'cept its suggested use is an over-nite bath ...

thanx again, shAf
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From: shAf :      mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:05:26 -0800
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Scott Whittaker wrote:

} i have archived a recent discussion on this at the following URL (Tips &
} Tricks site):
}
} http://www.biotech.ufl.edu/icbr/emcl/db/lab6crud.html
}
} ...

Thanx ... it appears the consensus is dilute HCl for short periods together
with H2O rinses, and I can't imagine this being much of a problem for
stainless steel ... but it *was* strange to see someone else suggest ammonia
... that is, base over an acid attack ... and can I assume the "soap-scum
remover" suggestion is also basic. I can't imagine ammonia being a problem
either, 'cept its suggested use is an over-nite bath ...

thanx again, shAf
--
{\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} cogito, ergo zZOooOM {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/}
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http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~mshaf/






From: Kevin Mackenzie :      nhi691-at-abdn.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:18:07 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Scottish Microscopy Symposium Abstracts

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Hello

If you want to view the abstracts from our meeting on the 12th November 97.
The web address is http://www.abdn.ac.uk/~nhi691/97abst.htm

Kevin Mackenzie

Tillydrone E.M. Unit
University of Aberdeen
Tillydrone Avenue
Aberdeen
AB9 2NT

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From: Crossman, Harold :      crossman-at-OSI.SYLVANIA.com
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:38:53 -0500
Subject: cleaning wehnelt

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The site listed below is an expert system for determining cleaning
procedures. Great stuff. If dilute HCL doesn't work, then this web
site might a good place to get direction.

http://clean.rti.org/


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From: Scott Whittaker :      sdw-at-biotech.ufl.edu
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:41:31 -0500
Subject: Re: SEM/LaB6: cleaning wehnelt

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Another alternative you may consider still used the polish paste. Our
sevice eng. taught us this one.
Take a dremel and put a Q-tip in it (drill may work too) put on some paste
and let her rip. We don't run lab6 so I have no experience with that
aspect, just the usual crud in any biologic EM.



At 10:05 AM 11/11/97 -0800, you wrote:
} Scott Whittaker wrote:
}
} } i have archived a recent discussion on this at the following URL (Tips &
} } Tricks site):
} }
} } http://www.biotech.ufl.edu/icbr/emcl/db/lab6crud.html
} }
} } ...
}
} Thanx ... it appears the consensus is dilute HCl for short periods together
} with H2O rinses, and I can't imagine this being much of a problem for
} stainless steel ... but it *was* strange to see someone else suggest ammonia
} ... that is, base over an acid attack ... and can I assume the "soap-scum
} remover" suggestion is also basic. I can't imagine ammonia being a problem
} either, 'cept its suggested use is an over-nite bath ...
}
} thanx again, shAf
} --
} {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} cogito, ergo zZOooOM {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/}
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} http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~mshaf/
}
}
}
}




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From: shAf :      mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:05:40 -0800
Subject: Re: SEM/LaB6: cleaning wehnelt

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Scott Whittaker wrote:

} Another alternative you may consider still used the polish paste. Our
} service eng. taught us this one.
} Take a dremel and put a Q-tip in it (drill may work too) put on some paste and
} let her rip. ...

My service rep reccommended against this as it can be quite abrasive. However,
the technique is okay if you buy the variable speed dremel and use its slow speed
... saves quite a bit of elbow grease ...
cheerios, shAf
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From: bozzola-at-siu.edu (John J. Bozzola)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 02:57:34 -0600
Subject: Re: SEM/LaB6: cleaning wehnelt

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} Another alternative you may consider still used the polish paste. Our
} sevice eng. taught us this one.
} Take a dremel and put a Q-tip in it (drill may work too) put on some paste
} and let her rip. We don't run lab6 so I have no experience with that
} aspect, just the usual crud in any biologic EM.

Be careful if you use this technique because it can quickly enlarge and
distort the aperture of the Wehnelt shield or cap. Once enlarged, the gun
geometry is degraded until you replace the cap with a new one.

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From: paulc-at-gps.caltech.edu (Paul K. Carpenter)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:32:29 -0800
Subject: Re: Cleaning wehnelt

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Concerning cleaning the wehnelt:

We have been using the ultrasonic bath with "Micro" cleaning solution
(Catalog #6731, International Products Corp, 609-386-8770) to clean the
wehnelt, apertures, etc.

I used to use the metal polish and much scrubbing with q-tips, cotton,
followed by ultrsonic rinsing with isopropanol. This cleaning solution
does a great job, and removes tungsten deposits that I could not previously
remove.

The solution works best when warm, and I must confess that I use a stronger
mix than the instructions dictate (instructions say 2%, I use about 10% or
so in distilled water). I put this brew into a big glass beaker, heat it
up on the hot plate, put in the parts, and immerse in the ultrasonic bath.
I follow that by sonication in distilled water with a finish using
isopropanol. We just did a column routine on our Jeol 733 using the
solution and it also removed deposits from little crevices that were not
cleaned that well before.

I have not observed any detrimental effects on the pieces we have cleaned,
and am especially interested in hearing about it if it does happen.

The solution smells of ammonia but the ingredients show more than that.

I think I paid about $10 for 1 quart. Highly recommended.

Paul Carpenter



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From: Jim Darley :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 08:46:34 +1100
Subject: Re: Replication techniques and their resolution

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Ciara:
If you can rotate the specimen during C evaporation rather complex
specimens can be coated with no 'shadows' remaining.
The replication technique too should work. Plastic replicas can cope with
difficult shapes too and they are quite easy to produce. A basic outline of
the process is given under 'replication' (see index or "V" page) in our
online catalogue. Replicating materials and instructions are provided by us
and I expect all other EM suppliers. You would probably later angle shadow
the replica with metal to show depths. With a known angle you can estimate
height and the incorporation of latex spheres would provide an internal
scale. Plastic replicas are accurate to better than 0.1um.
Jim Darley

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}
} I am interested in looking at tape heads used in digital data storage
systems
} via a light interferometry system. We wish to measure parameters such as
head
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To do
} this accurately we need to know the refractive index of the different
materials
} in the heads. Some of them are exotic alloys which makes this difficult,
and I
} am trying to think of alternative techniques to assist us. Coating the
samples
} would be one idea since the light would be effectively incident upon the
same
} material but they have a rather fiddly cross section and I am not
convinced that
} we could coat the samples without any shadowing. Replication seemed
like a
} good idea, apart from the resolution worries, or would we have the same
} shadowing problems? Does anyone have any knowledge about this?
}
}
} Thanks in advance
}
} Ciara
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From: Jerome Freed :      jjfreed-at-netreach.net
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:24:59 -0500
Subject: Re: Excessive dust in EM rooms

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Be careful of electrostatic precipitators. They may produce low
concentrations of ozone and contribute to rapid deterioration of rubber
parts of equipment. Best test is the lifetime of a stretched rubber
band; compare to control prep'n perhaps at home.

Air-conditioner type filters treated with a polyethylene glycol spray
may stop the dirt to a great extent without going to the expense of HEPA
filters. Under the conditions you describe, the initial cost might not
be as big a burden as the cost of frequent replacements!

Jerry Freed




From: Stephen A. Shaffer :      sshaffer-at-microdataware.com
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 16:38:51 -0800
Subject: SFMS Meeting Announcement

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San Francisco Microscopical Society
November Meeting Announcement

Annual Swap Meet
November 15, 1997 =

=

Place: Rockridge Branch
Oakland Public Library
5366 College Avenue
Oakland CA

Time: 10:00 A.M.

Everyone has old microscope parts, equipment, supplies, and associated
items that they would like to get rid of =96 and all microscopists have
room in the microscopical cabinets for that perfect gizmo that the next
persons
wants to be rid of. This is your opportunity to get rid of those things
you don=92t want any more, and replace them with those invaluable items
that other people will bring.

Bring all of you tradeables to the meeting on Saturday and see what you
can get rid off, and see what you can take home with you.

For further information, you may contact Peter Barnett at 510-222-8883
or visit the SFMS Meeting Web Page at:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/steve_shaffer/announce.htm
The web page contains further information, maps, directions via car and
public transportation, etc.

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From: Nestor J. Zaluzec :      zaluzec-at-Sparc5.Microscopy.Com
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 23:11:11 -0500
Subject: October ListServer Archives On-Line

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Colleagues...

Sorry, but I've been running a bit behind this month. The
October Archives are now on-line at the MSA WWW Site.

http://www.msa.microscopy.com

The October 97 Archive contains 524 postings and will eat up ~ 1.1 Mbytes
of your hard drive should you decide to download it.

Nestor
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From: cliffjp-at-juno.com (Cliff J Priebe)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 21:26:01 -0700
Subject: LM: Wanted-Info on Olympus PMS-II Photomicrographic System

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Per chance, does anyone have a manual for this setup?
As it is somewhat dated (1969) even the manufacturer
cannot provide one.
Thanks,
Cliff Priebe




From: ROBIN CROSS :      EURC-at-giraffe.ru.ac.za
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 08:27:04 GMT+0200
Subject: MSSA '97

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For those interested, the authors and titles of presentations to
be given at the Microscopy Society of Southern Africa's 37th
Annual Conference is available at:

http://www.uct.ac.za/depts/emu/mssa/contents.htm

Abstracts of these presentations are published in the conference
proceedings.

The conference will take place from December 2 to 5, 1997, at
the University of the Western Cape in Bellville, near Cape Town.






Robin H Cross
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From: Paolo Castano :      clsmteam-at-imiucca.csi.unimi.it
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:13:09 +0100
Subject: Keratinocite antibody

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Dear all,

I am looking for a human pan-keratin antibody to recognise both epidermal
and hair keratinocites. Can somebody suggest me a good, possible,
policlonal antibody?

I thank you in advance,

Cristiano

________________________________________________________________________

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Istitute of Human Anatomy
Via Mangiagalli 31
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Italy
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From: Sara Prins :      SPrins-at-csir.co.za
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:42:23 +0200
Subject: STM/AFM substrates

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I am busy with a literature study on STM/AFM and epitaxial grown Au
layers. I have a few questions on using gold substrates in STM/AFM.

1. If you use gold evaporated onto mica as a substrate, do you need to
separate the gold and mica before you can use the atomically flat gold as
a substrate? Or do you stick it ont some kind of stub for the STM?
2. Is there a minimum/maximum thickness of gold foils suitable for
substrates?
3. If you want to use atomically flat gold as substrate, do you buy it or
make it yourself (and to all the vendors, I'm not interested in buying, just
asking...).

Thanx
Sara Prins








From: edelmare-at-casmail.muohio.edu
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 08:56:05 -0500
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Disclamer: I am NOT a vendor, I sell nothing (except perhaps my
soul), I have done my best to come up with reasonable current market
pricing in all the following comparisons and this is a LONG email.

Yes, high resolution images (which maintain their resolution, i.e.
not subjected to 'losey-compresion') do take up alot of storage space
- as my students are constantly shocked at. Storage of these images
is problematic, and presently there is no ideal soloution, but here
are some for consideration:

Definitions: Mb= Megabit (Divide by 8 to get MB), MB = MegaByte,
GB=Gigabyte, 1000MB = 1GB (Hey some of us are really just starting
out) and $ = U.S.D.

In order to make some sense in comparison I have choosen the
simplistic view in regards to data transfer rates (i.e. the speed for
transfering data between the storage device and the computer
system/software) and simply have relied on manufacturers reported
transfer rates. Things to keep in mind with these numbers (1) you'll
never see these speeds in reality - they are all determined in ideal
situations not real world usage, but they are comparable with each
other; (2) Actual transfer rates will vary depending on the
interface used (i.e. the max. throughputs for the interfaces are
EIDE (1-10MB/sec) vs SCSI (5-10MB/sec) vs SCSI-Wide (20MB/Sec) vs
SCSI-UltraWide (40MB/Sec) vs parallel ports ( {1 vs Fiber Coupling
(a.k.a. Fire Wire, 100+MB/Sec), (3) System configuration will also
effect this; i.e. what CPU, what BUS speed, how much memory (RAM)
what other components are in the system, what operating system, etc.
, (4) the biggest factor in the data transfer numbers game is
"Maximum Burst" transfer speed vs "Throughput speed". My only hope
in presenting this information is that is gives you a starting point
for comparisons.

1) Zip drives are cheap ($140 for drive) but cartridges are
expensive ($13 / 100MB - I'll use 100MB as the standard unit for
price comparison). 100MB is not very much storage capacity, and the
transfer speeds are very slow -at- 1MB/Sec NOTE: unless you have min.
650MB free HD space you can NOT record an entire CD directly (On
-The-Fly) from a a zip drive, you'll have to record in multisession
mode (and lose 13MB in "overhead" for each session after the first
one, i.e. a 640MB CD-R would require 6 Sessions thus loosing 65 MB).


2) Iomega JAZ drives: $300/400 (Int/Ext) with 6.73MB/sec transfer, 1GB
cartridge-at-$124 [$12/100MB] (Expensive AND slow!)

3) Don't be so quick to reject tape storage. Tape storage can be
extremely cost effective in larger formats, speed can be a problem
but going back to older work-around solutions, users wishing to work
on files on Tuesday could transfer the data from tape to HD Monday
night, and then transfer back - alternately, utilizing a file server
for this task (File Server: HD's, Tape drives, CD-drives for
handleing just data storage: reading and writing only, no running of
other software) would free up workstations for computational work.
Yes, random access is limited but if you're looking at serial section
reconstruction you'll be accessing sequentially anyway. CON: You
have to a have a drive to read and write the data (unlike ubiquitous
CD-ROM readers).

Some general tech specs:

2GB drives ($600), 11MB/sec, tapes -at- $10 [ $0.50/100MB]

2-4GB drives ($350-600), 29-42MB/sec, tapes -at- $31-10
[$1.50-0.25/100MB] NOTE: Cheaper drives + More $ tapes

4-8GB drives ($750-1,200), 32-66MB/sec, Tapes -at- $16-28 [$0.40
- 0.22/100 MB]

7-14GB drives ($700-1,600), 60-120MB/sec, tapes -at- $16 [$0.22 -
0.11/100MB]

12-24GB drives ($1,000-1,300), 120-132MB/sec, tapes -at- $32-42 [$0.35 -
0.13/100MB]

Drives go upto the following: 20-40GB, 32-64GB, 70-150GB, 100-200GB,
140-280GB -at- $2,000-9,000.

NEW Iomega Ditto Max drives: upto 7GB* drives -at- $200, upto 10GB*
drives -at- $300, (*these are compressed data values, compression will
slow down transfer speeds) with transfer speeds upto 36MB/sec and
tapes running $20/3gb - $35/10GB [$0.20-$0.30/100MB].



4) CD-ROM storage: This makes alot of sense, since 99% of all
computers come with CD-ROM readers. If you (or your users) have
older CD-ROM readers, then they will need to cough up $80-150 to buy
a newer one (10x IDE drive - 16x SCSI). For comparison sake a 1x
refers to the standard speed of an Audio CD and allows for
150kilbytes of data transfered per second. Therefore a 10x CD-ROM
would allow for upto 1.5MB/second transfer. Actual transfer rates
will vary depending on the interface used (i.e. IDE vs SCSI, etc.).

CD-Recorders (CD-R's): these vary ALOT in recording speeds (1x-4x
-6x?) and prices follow ($340 - $800), plus you'll need recording
software ($50-100), and its recommended that you have a dedicated
temporary storage drive for the higher recording speeds ($180-500).
CD-R's are sensitive to recording errors, but they have become much
more routinely reliable in the last 1-2years (particularly with a
dedicated temp storage disk). CD-R's are WORM disks (Write Once
Read Many), that means if you record practice images, you can't
erase them and re-use the space. However, the recording media is
reasonably cheap -at- 3.50-5.00/640MB disk [$0.54-0.78/100MB].

CD-ReWriteables (CD-RW): These are new to market as of this spring
they do allow for re-writing to the media. There are still only a
few manufactures and they record at 1-2x presently and cost ~$500.
The media is also very expensive ($25/disk) but is expected to drop
too reasonable prices by early next year. However! CD-RW's
apparently can only be read in CD-RW drives and NOT normal CD-ROM
drives. Ricoh does offer a drive which fuctions as CD-ROM, CD-R, and
CD-CW (MediaMaster ~$550).



5) DVD anyone? (and NO "DVD" is not a an anacronym, it once was but
had three different definitions so the powers that be decided to just
leave it as DVD). This ones easy: NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME YET.
Currently readers only are available, and recorders MIGHT be come
available late 1998, however the major manufactiring groups have had
a falling out again after coming up with a "standard" recording
format, and there are two incompatible (?) formats heading our way
so it might be until 1999-2000 before this becomes a
reality and affordable. However, it may offer the best solution to
todays image storage problems, in that the DVD storage capacity is
4.7GB for single sided and 7GB for double sided. But we shall see,
eh?

6) Optical Drives: Currently available optical dirves are
ReWritable (there are still some WORM drives though) fall into two
major categories: Mageneto-Optical (MO) drives and PD Drives. MO
drives come in various sizes from 128MB upto 4.6GB, I would suggest
that only drive 640MB and larger be considered. PD drives come in
640-650MB sizes, these sizes are very nice because they match the
CD-R size. Therefore you could use the MO or PD for temporary
storage and then archive to CD-R. However, once again you need to
have a drive to read these MO or PD's as well as write them. Most of
the drives will handle the next 2 or 3 sizes smaller capacity disks,
i.e. the 2.6GB MO's will read/write 1.3 & 650 disks. Prices are as
follows (Internal/External):

MO Drives:

640MB, $430/500, disks -at- $30 [$4.68/100MB]

1.3GB , $1,200/1,300, disks -at- $33 [$2.54/100MB]

2.6GB, $1,550/1,650, disks -at- $45 [$1.73/100MB]

4.6GB, $1,450/1,550, disks -at- $99 [$2.15/100MB]
[MediaStore has the Mitsubishi 4200 4.6GB on sale for $999!
4.2MB/sec transfer]

640/650 PD drives: $350/440, disk -at- $34 [$5.20/100MB]

Toray has a 650 PD, 900kilobyte/sec which is also a CD-ROM reader for
$315/405.

7) Removable hard disk frames: Another alternative, one which has
been choosen by Hollywood (See Advanced Imaging October 1997, P.74)
is the usage of removable harddrives. Frames for making HD's
removable run: $20:IDE; $30:SCSI; $70:SCSI-Wide. However this does
not include the cost of the drive (obviously). Secondly, HD's are
delicate instruments and care must be taken when moving them about,
but a rack close to a user accessible computer system (say one with a
CD-Recorder?) would be a useful solution for the highest speed data
transfer. 2-6GB IDE's -at- $7-5/100MB, 2-10GB SCSI -at- $7-10/100MB,
2-23GB SCSI Ultra-Wides -at- $7-20/100MB (On all HD's Bigger drives
have lowest costs per MB).


There are a few other, less common solutions, and each faclity will
need to develope their own prefered solution. However, I'm sure
there are a number of vendors out there who'd love to sell you a
turn-key system package for $20-40k.



Richard E. Edelmann, Ph.D.
Electron Microscopy Facility Supervisor
352 Pearson Hall
Miami University, Oxford, OH 45056
Ph: 513.529.5712 Fax: 513.529.4243
E-mail: edelmare-at-muohio.edu


"640K ought to be enough for anybody."
-- Bill Gates, 1981




From: Ray D. Twesten :      twesten-at-uiuc.edu
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 08:17:10 -0600
Subject: Re: Philips CM20

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Daraporn,
I think the answer is no. I am assuming that you took a diffraction pattern
with the probe focused on the sample (i.e. you have a BF CBED disk). In this
case, you have only measured the convergence angle of the probe. If you had
an infinitely small source, knew you were in focus and fully stigmated, and
knew the Cs of the probe forming lens, you could determine the theoretic probe
size. But, for a non-FEG TEM, the probe size is mainly determined by the
demagnification of the finite source (i.e. the spot size selected). You might
be able to go back and image probe under similar conditions to get an
approximate value for the probe.

Hope this helps,
--
Ray D. Twesten Center For Microanalysis of Materials
(217) 244-6177 University of Illinois
(217) 244-2278 (fax) 104 S. Goodwin Ave.
(217) 359-4035 (home) Urbana, IL 61801

Daraporn Arayasantiparb wrote:
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} Dear All,
}
} I have a question maybe someone could help me... I want to measure
} the size of my probe, but I collected the wrong image... i.e., I collected
} the image of the probe in the diffraction mode... Is it possible to find
} actual size of the probe? I think if I know the distance between the
} objective aperture and the selected area aperture and the point of
} convergence of the convergence angle, I should be able to calculate it
} from there... but where can I find all these information?... Can anyone
} help me?
}
} Your suggestions is greatly appreciated.
}
} Sincerely,
} Daraporn Arayasantiparb




From: cjzeissl-at-email.nist.gov (Cynthia J. Zeissler)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:19:52 -0500
Subject: Re: Excessive dust in EM rooms

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You say that an outside consultant reports that your EM room averages 20K -
50K particles in the 0.5 micron range per cubic foot. From experience, I
would be surprised if you get a visible film of dust observed on a light
background overnight, but perhaps a visible film of dust on a dark shiny
negative as you describe sounds reasonable, especially when viewed by
scattered light. You definitely shouldn't get anything you can feel with
your fingers overnight.

I recommend the article "Particulate Fallout Predictions for Clean Rooms"
by Otto Hamburg in The Jour. of Environmental Sciences, May/June 1982
pp.15-20.

You can set out "witness plates" for various lengths of time and observe
the amount of fallout you get and compare these results with environments
of different load suspensions. Your witness plates should be identical to
the substrates of interest....TEM grids and negatives, and be in the same
place in your room. This can make a big difference. Particulate
characteristics, air flow, humidity, substrates, etc. will be different
from one person's environment to another's, meaning you cannot readily
expect one person's experiences to be applicable to yours.

We have a particle prep lab that ranges between 1K-50K particles } = 0.5
micron per cubic foot, depending where you are and what phase the moon is
in. We then have { Class 10 areas embedded within that where samples may
be exposed to air. (Assuming that my laser counter's calibration is still
good). Within the 20-50K areas that would be somewhat similar to yours, I
would not expect to find significant dust accumulation on negatives
overnight. However, I would guess that if the air was very dry, and there
was plenty of air flow across the negatives, perhaps they would
electrostatically collect enough by the next day to be a problem. I would
not leave TEM grids out in this air if I was concerned about contamination.


Typical unfiltered office and home air where there is no smoke has about a
few billion particles } = 0.5 microns per cubic foot. So if you have a
rough idea of how rapidly dust accumulates there, you can apply the rules
of 10 to get a VERY ROUGH idea of what you would get in the same
environment if it had a few orders of magnitude less particulate. Again, I
repeat, very rough.

I also have a story. I once worked in a cleanroom that had about 10,000
particles } = 0.5 micron per cubic foot in most areas (Class 10,000), and
some Class 10 areas. About once every several days, I would find an
enormous amount of dust on everything in the Class 10,000 areas and the
clean room would have to be thoroughly cleaned. It appeared to be caused
by "burps" in the plenum structure, caused by momentary pressure
differentials, that allowed dust that had accumulated there to burp through
seams in the ceiling. Solution: seal the seams. So your average dust
suspension measurements may not reflect momentary, but significant, surges,
for whatever reason.

Other useful references are:

FED-STD-209E Federal Standard for Clean Room and Work Station Requirements
for Controlled Environments

MIL-STD 1246 Military Standard for Product Cleanliness Levels

Hope this helps.

Cynthia J. Zeissler
Physical Scientist
National Institute of Standards and Technology
cynthia.zeissler-at-nist.gov
301-975-3910






From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:09:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Excessive dust in EM rooms

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Dear Frank,
}
} Has anyone had experience with eliminating excessive amounts of dust in
} their EM rooms?
}
} I moved into a newly renovated suite of rooms over a year ago. Since that
} time we have been plagued by dust and dirt.
}
Since you are now experiencing a problem, the simplest thing would
be to put something like cheesecloth (Optic-wipe cloth works for us) over
the AC input & return ports. This will cut down on the air flow, but will
remove a lot of particles. If this works, there may be no need for more
expensive remedies, and the worst case will be insufficient improvement.
}
} Does anybody have any experience with electrostatic precipitators and which
} type is best?
}
My father had a dust allergy, and we had a precipitator in his room.
They are very efficient at removing particles, but the air has to flow
through the plates, so in your case they would have to be installed in the
AC inputs. (It's different conditions when the particles are continuously
introduced than when they are stirred up off the floor.) Furthermore, the
ozone production already mentioned is a problem; activated charcoal filters
after the precipitators could solve it. If you go this route, there will
have to be regular maintenance of both the precipitators & the filters.
Good luck.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




From: Tom Phillips :      tphillips-at-biosci.mbp.missouri.edu
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:46:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Image storage problems -followup on CD comment

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Richard E. Edelmann, Ph.D. wrote:
}
} 4) CD-ROM storage: This makes alot of sense, since 99% of all
} computers come with CD-ROM readers. If you (or your users) have
} older CD-ROM readers, then they will need to cough up $80-150 to buy
} a newer one (10x IDE drive - 16x SCSI).
}
I don't get why users would have to buy a 10x IDE or 16x SCSI drive. Can't
the CD's be written in a standard format that can be read at any speed?? I
am about to buy a CD writer and apparently have missed something here.
TIA, Tom

Thomas E. Phillips, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Biological Sciences
Director, Molecular Cytology Core Facility
3 Tucker Hall
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211
(573)-882-4712 (voice)
(573)-882-0123 (fax)






From: cjzeissl-at-email.nist.gov (Cynthia J. Zeissler)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:23:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Excessive dust in EM rooms

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You say that an outside consultant reports that your EM room averages 20K -
50K particles in the 0.5 micron range per cubic foot. From experience, I
would be surprised if you get a visible film of dust observed on a light
background overnight, but perhaps a visible film of dust on a dark shiny
negative as you describe sounds reasonable, especially when viewed by
scattered light. You definitely shouldn't get anything you can feel with
your fingers overnight.

I recommend the article "Particulate Fallout Predictions for Clean Rooms"
by Otto Hamburg in The Jour. of Environmental Sciences, May/June 1982
pp.15-20.

You can set out "witness plates" for various lengths of time and observe
the amount of fallout you get and compare these results with environments
of different load suspensions. Your witness plates should be identical to
the substrates of interest....TEM grids and negatives, and be in the same
place in your room. This can make a big difference. Particulate
characteristics, air flow, humidity, substrates, etc. will be different
from one person's environment to another's, meaning you cannot readily
expect one person's experiences to be applicable to yours.

We have a particle prep lab that ranges between 1K-50K particles } = 0.5
micron per cubic foot, depending where you are and what phase the moon is
in. We then have { Class 10 areas embedded within that where samples may
be exposed to air. (Assuming that my laser counter's calibration is still
good). Within the 20-50K areas that would be somewhat similar to yours, I
would not expect to find significant dust accumulation on negatives
overnight. However, I would guess that if the air was very dry, and there
was plenty of air flow across the negatives, perhaps they would
electrostatically collect enough by the next day to be a problem. I would
not leave TEM grids out in this air if I was concerned about contamination.


Typical unfiltered office and home air where there is no smoke has about a
few billion particles } = 0.5 microns per cubic foot. So if you have a
rough idea of how rapidly dust accumulates there, you can apply the rules
of 10 to get a VERY ROUGH idea of what you would get in the same
environment if it had a few orders of magnitude less particulate. Again, I
repeat, very rough.

I also have a story. I once worked in a cleanroom that had about 10,000
particles } = 0.5 micron per cubic foot in most areas (Class 10,000), and
some Class 10 areas. About once every several days, I would find an
enormous amount of dust on everything in the Class 10,000 areas and the
clean room would have to be thoroughly cleaned. It appeared to be caused
by "burps" in the plenum structure, caused by momentary pressure
differentials, that allowed dust that had accumulated there to burp through
seams in the ceiling. Solution: seal the seams. So your average dust
suspension measurements may not reflect momentary, but significant, surges,
for whatever reason.

Other useful references are:

FED-STD-209E Federal Standard for Clean Room and Work Station Requirements
for Controlled Environments

MIL-STD 1246 Military Standard for Product Cleanliness Levels

Hope this helps.

Cynthia J. Zeissler
Physical Scientist
National Institute of Standards and Technology
cynthia.zeissler-at-nist.gov
301-975-3910






From: James Martin :      James.S.Martin-at-williams.edu
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:15:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: tagging substrates with metals,

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A student will be assessing the penetration of various adhesive
consolidants into egg tempera based paint layers. The consolidants would
likely include animal glue, cellulosic ethers, and acrylics.

She has considered tagging the consolidant with one or more dyes to allow
visual microscopic examination of depth penetration in samples cut in
cross-section. Another means of assessing penetration would be micro-FTIR
step-scan analysis of bulk cross-sections or thin-sections (1-5 microns).

Here's a question for the TEM folk on the list. Can anyone think of a
feasible way to dope the consolidants with a metal(s) to allow mapping of
depth penetration by SEM-EDS, TEM, or another technique?

I have only a limited knowledge of the use of metal-labelled antibodies to
mark specific antigens using EM, and know this application I describe is
quite different.

Thanks for your assistance with this inquiry.

James Martin








From: Warren Straszheim :      wesaia-at-iastate.edu
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:22:56 -0600
Subject: Re: Image storage problems -followup on CD comment

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At 09:46 AM 11/12/97 -0500, Tom Phillips wrote:

} Richard E. Edelmann, Ph.D. wrote:
} }
} } 4) CD-ROM storage: This makes alot of sense, since 99% of all
} } computers come with CD-ROM readers. If you (or your users) have
} } older CD-ROM readers, then they will need to cough up $80-150 to buy
} } a newer one (10x IDE drive - 16x SCSI).
} }
} I don't get why users would have to buy a 10x IDE or 16x SCSI drive. Can't
} the CD's be written in a standard format that can be read at any speed?? I
} am about to buy a CD writer and apparently have missed something here.
} TIA, Tom

I think Richard was saying that it may be worth the $100 or so necessary to
upgrade the older 1X to 4X units to the faster speeds. I worked with a 1X
for a few years. It was better than nothing, but it was slow!

Now a question for Richard. Do the tape drives really achieve 20 MB/sec or
did you mean 20 MB/min? Our Ditto 2GB is on a flopy port and is doing well
if it does 10 MB/min.
----------------------------------------------------
Warren E. Straszheim
23 Town Engineering
Iowa State University
Ames IA, 50011
Phone: 515-294-8187 FAX: 515-294-8216

E-Mail: wesaia-at-iastate.edu (or: wes-at-ameslab.gov)
http://www.marl.iastate.edu/marl/ (re: SEM)
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~iprt_info/cfce/ (re: coal)

electron microscopy, x-ray analysis, image analysis, computer applications





From: Michael Dunlap :      mrdunlap-at-ucdavis.edu
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:07:22 -0700
Subject: Instrument rates and # of Technicians

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To the List,

Several of the members in the past have asked questions about Instrument
rates and personal salaries. I recently saw a breakdown done on Mass
Spectrometers. The breakdown was by three sectors - Industry, Government,
and Universities. The data was presented for each instrument in each of
the three sectors. The data was summarized including rates, the average
age of the instruments and the staff to instrument ratio. Our lab was
below the mean for most of the categories and now much effort is being
place in trying to remedy the situation. With any luck we will acquire a
new Mass Spec. and a staff member.

I was wondering if someone had a breakdown of this information handy on
Microscopes and their support personal. I would like to see if we could do
the same for the microscopy portion of the lab.

Thanks

Mike


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Facility For Advanced Instrumentation fax (530) 752-4412
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From: Barbara Foster :      mme-at-map.com
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:49:06 -0800
Subject: Article: Web (image) Gymnastics

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Needed: Tips, hints, great microscopy web sites

We are in the process of preparing an article for the next "Focus on
Microscopy" column for American Lab and would like your input. If you
have
1. suggestions for image format or procedures for transporting images via
the Internet or intranets,
2. tips and hints for using the inter/intranets for image libraries
3. tips and hints for communicating ideas on inter/intranets
4. microscopy or imaging Internet sites which you really enjoy
please email me. If we can quote you, please add a line which gives us
permission to use your name and your institution. If you have an extra
minute or two, jot down a few comments about the type of work you do and
what impact electronic media such as the Internet and/or intranets have
had on your work.

Thanks!
Barbara Foster
Contributing editor
American Laboratory




From: Tony Garratt-Reed :      tonygr-at-MIT.EDU
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:31:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Philips CM20

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Ray Twesten says, in his response to Daraporn Arayasantiparb, that:

"...for a non-FEG TEM, the probe size is mainly determined by the
demagnification of the finite source (i.e. the spot size selected). "

A few years ago I was involved in some work with a colleague where we made
this assumption and generated some peculiar data. In the end we concluded
that the probe size was, in fact, determined by the Cs of the objective lens
and the convergence of the probe was too large. Depending upon where the
collector aperture is placed, the convergence angle either increases or
stays constant with increasing demagnification (i.e. smaller spot size
settings). In our case, the probe size was in fact independant of the
setting of the spot size control! (at least for the smaller sizes). It is
essential to select an appropriate condenser aperture which matches the spot
size setting, if that control is to have any meaning.



Tony Garratt-Reed






Anthony J. Garratt-Reed
MIT Room 13-1027
77 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02139-4307
United States of America

Ph: 617-253-4622
Fax: 617-258-6478





From: Karen Rethoret :      rethoret-at-yorku.ca
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:32:42 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Particle Size Analysis, More Info.

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Is there anyone out there that currently does particle size analysis by
both Microscopy and Laser/Light Scattering techniques that can tell me if
there is a listserver or newsgroup that deals with PSA specifically?

Thank you in advance!







From: Richard Lander :      richard.lander-at-stonebow.otago.ac.nz
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:30:04 +1200
Subject: TEM: Osmium Vapour staining.

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Dear all,
Sorry if this has been discussed on the list before BUT.......

Does anyone know of a good method for Osmium Vapour staining/Osmium droplet
staining for immuno-labelled grids? I am currently working on labelling
some brain material from a honey bee, and have good signal, however I need
to enhance the membranes a little more to accurately localise the
labelling, than conventional staing with UA and Pb gives. Fixation is good
and the tissue has been processed into Lowicryl K4M by PLT.

Like an inquisitive technician, I tried staining some Lowicryl sections of
this tissue on some drops of OsO4 (with rinses afterwards) but came away
with lots of tiny ppts all over the tissue! (non-specific ppts too! :-) )

So if someone could enlighten me with some trusty methods/references, that
would be great!


Look forward to hearing from you,


Rich.

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Electron Microscope Technician
South Campus Electron Microscope Unit
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P.O. Box 913
Dunedin
New Zealand.
Tel. National 03 479 7301 Fax. National 03 479 7254

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From: laura.rhoads-at-wku.edu (Laura Rhoads)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:46:14 -0600
Subject: Drive Belt for OmU2

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Hey there,

Do any of you Reichert afficianados out there happen to know where=
I can obtain a drive belt for an OmU2? I called Leica and they told=
me parts are no longer available: This of course was after they=
got over the shock of hearing one of these babies hasn't been turned=
into a boat anchor yet. This little darling cuts like a hot knife=
through butter, at least it did before the belt self-destructed=
so I'd hate to see it go just because the belt is finished. If anyone=
knows where I might be able to get a new belt, say for example when=
you got that new Ultracut and left the OmU2 parts in that back drawer,=
or make a replacement part of susbtitute goods (such as rubber bands,=
duct tape, etc) I'd really like to hear from you.

Thanks a lot!


************************************************************
Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.
************************************************************
Laura Rhoads
Electron Microscopy Facility Director
Department of Biology
Western Kentucky University
1 Big Red Way
Bowling Green, KY 42101-3576

(502) 745-6501 (502) 745-6856 fax






From: Bob Holthausen :      Bob_Holthausen-at-Pall.com
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:32:04 -0500
Subject: Re: Image storage problems -followup on CD comment

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It is my experience that CDs written with our HP 4020 drive cannot be read
on 1X CD readers. I have even encountered some 2X drives that don't like
the written discs. (Discs are written at 1x speed.) We have 2 writers and
the same holds true for CDs written by either drive. Never had a problem
with a 4X or higher reader.

Bob Holthausen
Pall Corporation
Port Washington, NY


I think Richard was saying that it may be worth the $100 or so necessary to
upgrade the older 1X to 4X units to the faster speeds. I worked with a 1X
for a few years. It was better than nothing, but it was slow!
Now a question for Richard. Do the tape drives really achieve 20 MB/sec or
did you mean 20 MB/min? Our Ditto 2GB is on a flopy port and is doing well
if it does 10 MB/min.
----------------------------------------------------
Warren E. Straszheim
23 Town Engineering
Iowa State University
Ames IA, 50011
Phone: 515-294-8187 FAX: 515-294-8216
E-Mail: wesaia-at-iastate.edu (or: wes-at-ameslab.gov)
http://www.marl.iastate.edu/marl/ (re: SEM)
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~iprt_info/cfce/ (re: coal)
electron microscopy, x-ray analysis, image analysis, computer applications


wesaia-at-iastate.edu on 11/12/97 12:22:56 PM

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From: Jeff Ingeman :      jingeman-at-uci.edu
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:16:31 -0800
Subject: Re: Image storage problems - Oh, no not again!

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At 08:56 AM 11/12/97 -0500, edelmare-at-casmail.muohio.edu wrote:
} 3) Don't be so quick to reject tape storage. Tape storage can be
} extremely cost effective in larger formats, speed can be a problem
} but going back to older work-around solutions, users wishing to work
} on files on Tuesday could transfer the data from tape to HD Monday
} night, and then transfer back - alternately, utilizing a file server
} for this task (File Server: HD's, Tape drives, CD-drives for
} handleing just data storage: reading and writing only, no running of
} other software) would free up workstations for computational work.
} Yes, random access is limited but if you're looking at serial section
} reconstruction you'll be accessing sequentially anyway. CON: You
} have to a have a drive to read and write the data (unlike ubiquitous
} CD-ROM readers).
}
} Some general tech specs:
}
} 2GB drives ($600), 11MB/sec, tapes -at- $10 [ $0.50/100MB]
}
} 2-4GB drives ($350-600), 29-42MB/sec, tapes -at- $31-10
} [$1.50-0.25/100MB] NOTE: Cheaper drives + More $ tapes
}
} 4-8GB drives ($750-1,200), 32-66MB/sec, Tapes -at- $16-28 [$0.40
} - 0.22/100 MB]
}
} 7-14GB drives ($700-1,600), 60-120MB/sec, tapes -at- $16 [$0.22 -
} 0.11/100MB]
}
} 12-24GB drives ($1,000-1,300), 120-132MB/sec, tapes -at- $32-42 [$0.35 -
} 0.13/100MB]
}
} Drives go upto the following: 20-40GB, 32-64GB, 70-150GB, 100-200GB,
} 140-280GB -at- $2,000-9,000.
}
} NEW Iomega Ditto Max drives: upto 7GB* drives -at- $200, upto 10GB*
} drives -at- $300, (*these are compressed data values, compression will
} slow down transfer speeds) with transfer speeds upto 36MB/sec and
} tapes running $20/3gb - $35/10GB [$0.20-$0.30/100MB].


I think you may have misquoted the above tape speeds. Based on my
experience, it is more likely that the above speeds are in MB/minute
instead of MB/second. That would place typical tape-drive speed more
in line with that of the Zip-drive. Also, most tape-drive software
accesses the tape in a sequential fashion, not randomly like the other
media. This means when you wish to relocate a particular file, it will
take a lot longer to get it from tape than from conventional media.


Jeff Ingeman Development Engineer
Department of Anatomy & Neurobiology
Department of Physiology & Biophysics
University of California - Irvine
(714) 824-7536
jingeman-at-uci.edu
jingeman-at-aol.com
jingeman-at-yahoo.com





From: Walck. Scott D. :      walck-at-ppg.com
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 97 18:20:00 PST
Subject: Polaroid Sprintscan 45 Negative Scanner-TEM film carrier?

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Does anyone know if a TEM negative carrier is available for the Polaroid
Sprintscan 45 Negative Scanner yet? Anyone having any experience with the
carrier (if it exists) and this scanner, could you send me a little message
on what you think of the system?

Thanks.

-Scott Walck

Walck-at-PPG.com

Scott D. Walck
PPG Industries, Inc.
Guys Run Rd. (packages)
P.O. Box 11472 (letters)
Pittsburgh, PA 15238-0472

(412) 820-8651 (office)
(412) 820-8161 (fax)


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Inc. nor of any PPG-associated companies."




From: bozzola-at-siu.edu (John J. Bozzola)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 05:46:38 -0600
Subject: Re: Drive Belt for OmU2

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} Do any of you Reichert afficianados out there happen to know where I can
} obtain a drive belt for an OmU2? I called Leica and they told me parts are
} no longer available: This of course was after they got over the shock of
} hearing one of these babies hasn't been turned into a boat anchor yet.
} This little darling cuts like a hot knife through butter, at least it did
} before the belt self-destructed so I'd hate to see it go just because the
} belt is finished. If anyone knows where I might be able to get a new belt,
} say for example when you got that new Ultracut and left the OmU2 parts in
} that back drawer, or make a replacement part of susbtitute goods (such as
} rubber bands, duct tape, etc) I'd really like to hear from you.

Hi Laura,

We also have a Reichert OmU2 that we loaned out to another department. It
still is operating. We did replace the drive belt (and even the shock
absorbing motor mounts) before we loaned the instrument out. (Yes, it
worked fine after our repair.) If I recall properly, the drive belt from
the motor to the microtome is really just a large O-ring and we found one
at a truck bearings repair place. So, take the belt to your local hardware
store or contact an O-ring supplier (I can give you the address if you need
one). You should also be aware that there is an O-ring kit available to
make any size O-ring by simply cutting the stock to desired length and
gluding the ends together. They do work well.



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John J. Bozzola, Ph.D., Director
Center for Electron Microscopy
Neckers Building, Room 146 - B Wing
Southern Illinois University
Carbondale, IL 62901
U.S.A.
Phone: 618-453-3730
Fax: 618-453-2665
Email: bozzola-at-siu.edu
Web: http://www.siu.edu/departments/shops/cem.html
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From: Doug Keene :      DRK-at-shcc.org
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:51:30 -0600 (cst)
Subject: Re: TEM: Osmium Vapour staining.

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Hello Richard...we also had some problems with inadequate
contrast of K4M embedded tissue which had been
immunolabeled. Our solution was to stand the grids up on
edge (in a slot cut into a wax sheet), to put the grids
with the wax in a petri dish, then to add a few drops of
OsO4 (2% aqueous) before covering the petri. We found that
the osmium vapors imparted good contrast after about 30
minutes at room temperature.

Good luck!

Doug Keene
Shriners Hospital for Children
----------------------
Doug Keene
DRK-at-shcc.org






From: Sara Miller :      saram-at-acpub.duke.edu
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 19:36:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: TEM: Stool samples: viral identification

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See
Hayat & Miller, Negative Staining, McGraw-Hill, 1990.

Doane & Anderson, Electron Microscopy in Diagnostic Virology, Cambridge U
Press, 1987.

Miller, J EM Technique (now Microsc Res & Tech) 4:265-301, 1986.

Tyrrell & Kapikian, Virus Infections of the Gastrointestinal Tract,
Marcel Dekker, 1982.


I would NOT, I repeat ***NOT*** recommend fixing any virus sample before
attaching it to the grid. If you are concerned with pathogenicity, you
can fix it after allowing it to adhere to the grid, then wash with water
and stain, or you can UV both sides of the grid after staining. For
speed in reporting clinical results (we do almost 1000/year), we look at
negative stains of potentially infectious material without fixing by
keeping a separate specimen holder for "dirty' grids and another for
nonpathogenic material such as sections. The grids are then UV'ed before
storage.

Anything fixed by aldehydes, especially glutaraldehyde becomes less
sticky after fixation. The most important reason that viruses in a
clinical sample should not be fixed before gridding is that you decrease
the numbers that stick to the support film. If you are close to the
threshold of detection, you may decrease the numbers below that level.

Many of the described methods for fixing viruses before gridding include
ultracentrifugation to concentrate them. This may be fine for samples
such as stool from gastroenteritis patients where there are likely to be
lots of virus, but for cerebrospinal fluid and other liquid samples,
likely to have few viruses, you don't want to take the chance of losing
any. If I were looking for an unknown virus in any sample, not knowing
beforehand whether it were positive or negative, I would not want to
lower my chances of finding something.

Further, adding fix to a dirty sample like stool can glue contaminants
together. You can form large clumps that trap viruses and then are
pelleted out in a low speed spin, effectively decreasing the number to
see on your grid. Also, junk can be glued to viruses coating them so
that they're unrecognizable.

It has been reported that some viruses have altered morphology after
fixation. If you are looking for a novel virus, you should look at fixed
and unfixed virus.

Misc. facts:
We use uranyl acetate which fixes and preserves viral structure; it does
NOT kill all viruses, but we use it because PTA is known to destroy some
viruses, particularly reo- and rotaviruses. While you can observe them
immediately after PTA staining, if you want to store them to show the
prof or the medical student tomorrow or next week, you have to fix them
and then wash with water before staining--adding more steps. Uranyl
acetate is radioactive. PTA stains the spikes on viruses better (e.g.,
paramyxoviruses).

NOTE WELL:
Finally, looking in stool for a virus that may be in brain may or may not
yield positive results. If your question is "Does the patient who has
viral encephalitis also shed virus in stool," then your search is valid.
If your question is "Does the patient who has encephalitis have viral
encephalitis," then you can't be sure a negative result from stool
examination is valid. Not all viruses that cause viral encephalitis are
shed in stool. Some never are; some are shed only for a short window of
time. Some viruses that cause encephalitis could not be identified in
stool, even if they were shed (e.g., alphaviruses, flaviviruses,
bunyaviruses). Stool is just too dirty; there are too many membranes and
vesicles that resemble viruses, and these viruses don't have a
morphologically recognizable nucleocapsid. Finally some viruses cause a
post infectious encephalomyelitis which appears to have an autoimmune
component, and little or no virus is seen--even in brain. The only
viruses you're really likely to see in feces of encephalitis patients are
Picornaviruses (e.g., enteroviruses, Coxsackie viruses).

Feel free to call or email if you have questions.

Sara


Sara E. Miller, Ph. D.
P. O. Box 3020
Duke University Medical Center
Durham, NC 27710
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From: Kerry Gascoigne :      Kerry.Gascoigne-at-flinders.edu.au
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:40:09 +0930
Subject: Re: Drive Belt for OmU2

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} Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:46:14 -0600
} To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} From: laura.rhoads-at-wku.edu (Laura Rhoads)
} Subject: Drive Belt for OmU2

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} Hey there,
}
} Do any of you Reichert afficianados out there happen to know where I can
} obtain a drive belt for an OmU2? I called Leica and they told me parts are no
} longer available: This of course was after they got over the shock of hearing
} one of these babies hasn't been turned into a boat anchor yet. This little
} darling cuts like a hot knife through butter, at least it did before the belt
} self-destructed so I'd hate to see it go just because the belt is finished. If
} anyone knows where I might be able to get a new belt, say for example when you
} got that new Ultracut and left the OmU2 parts in that back drawer, or make a
} replacement part of susbtitute goods (such as rubber bands, duct tape, etc)
} I'd really like to hear from you.
}
} Thanks a lot!
}
The material that is used for the drive on the Omu2 is quite different to the
material that is used for O rings, and has quite different damping properties
to the nitrile rubber oring cord.
It can be successfully rejoined by melting the ends against a heated copper
plate (or similar) and pressed together and then trimmed. We have also
sucessfully used "superglue" after trimming the ends with a grease free
razorblade. Very little length is lost.
Similar material to the original is also supplied at places that specialize in
Vbelt drives, and it too, is also normally joined by melting

Kerry Gascoigne
*****************************************************
Kerry Gascoigne
Flinders Microscope and Image Analysis Facility.
Ph (08)8204-4858 Fax (08)8277-0085
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From: hefeh-at-Rcs1.urz.tu-dresden.de
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:21:34 +0100
Subject: TEM - HEPES buffer for lung tissue fixation

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Hello everyone !
We want to change our fixation and processing protocol for pulmonary tissues
and cells to use HEPES buffer instead of sodium cacodylate buffer. Is anybody
out there who has made her/his experience with HEPES buffer in conventional
epoxy resin embedment. We are especially interested in experience of lipid
retention/extraction.

Heinz Fehrenbach (Inst. of Pathology, TU Dresden, Germany)






From: Giles Sanders :      pazghs-at-pan1.pharm.nottingham.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:31:50 GMT0BST
Subject: Re: STM/AFM substrates

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Sara,
in reply to the gold questions.

1. Generally you use the gold on the mica and just stick the mica to
the sample stub (in STM ensuring there is electrical contac between
the gold and the stub). Then you generally image downwards finding
large islands and flat areas of gold.

An alternative method, making larger areas of flat gold, is to remove
the upper layers of gold from the mica - see " Uniformly flat gold
surfaces: Imaging the domain structure of organic monolayers using
scanning force microscopy" by Stamou_D, Gourdon_D, Liley_M,
Burnham_NA, Kulik_A, Vogel_H, Duschl_C in LANGMUIR, 1997,
Vol.13, No.9, pp.2425-2428 for a clearer description of this method.

2. I don't think there is.

3. Make it youself.


Giles Sanders
Laboratory of Biophysics and Surface Analysis
School of Pharmaceutical Sciences
University of Nottingham




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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:41:40 +0100
Subject: financial support for postdoctoral

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From: annica.dahlstrom-at-clavicula.mednet.gu.se (Annica =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dahlstr=F6m?= )
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:23:51 +0200
Subject: Re: Article: Web (image) Gymnastics

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Dear Barbara Foster,

We are using the BioRad confocal microscopes to collect stacks of 2-D
pictures, transform these into 3-D using a Silicon Grapho=3DEDcs based syste=
m
with the VoxelWiew software. One of our interests is pathological
conditions of the human brain, and we collect stacks os pictures from
individual pyramidal or non-pyramidal neurons, visualized by intracellular
injections of e.g. Lucifer Yellow, which spreads to every part of the
neuron, including all spines. The neurons are collected with a presice
location registered from an identified cortical (so far) region, dissected
from either peroperative material or postmortem cases.

Characteristic morphological abberrations have been noted in cases of e.g.
irretractible epilepsy, and Rett's syndrom. We are further looking to
collect infantile autism cases and schizophrena cases.

We have in store many thousands of identified neurons with patient history
and other data, which can be transferred to researchers in other parts of
the world, for comparison with their own data, and for increasing case
numbers to improve statistics. We have done succsssful transfers via the
internet.

References:

Atypical pyramidal cells in epileptic human cortex: CFLS and 3-D
reconstructions.
P Belichenko, A Dahlstr=3DF6m, C von Essen, S Lindstr=3DF6m, C=
Nordborg =3D
and
P Sourander
NeuroReport, (1992) 3: 765-768

Application of confocal microscopy for the study of neuronal
organization in human cortical areas after microinjection of lucifer
yellow
P. V. Belichenko, A. Dahlstr=3DF6m, and P. Sourander
In: Biotechnology Applications of Microinjection, Microscopic Imagin=
=3D
g
and Fluorescence. Ed. P.H. Bach et al. Plenum Press, New York,(1993)
pp.29-35.

Dual channel confocal laser scanning microscopy of lucifer yellow-
microinjected human brain cells combined with Texas red
immunofluorescence
P. Belichenko & A. Dahlstr=3DF6m. J. Neurosci. Meth.(1994) 52: 111-1=
18

Rett syndrome: 3-D confocal microscopy of cortical pyramidal
dendrites and afferents
Pavel V. Belichenko, Anders Oldfors, Bengt Hagberg, and Annica
Dahlstr=3DF6m
NeuroReport (1994) 5: 1509-1513

Dendritic morpholgy in epileptogenic cortex from TRPE patients,
revealed
by intracellular Lucifer Yellow microinjection and confocal laser
scanning microscopy.
Pavel V. Belichenko, Patrick Sourander, Kristina Malmgren, Claes
Nordborg, Claes von Essen, Bertil Rydenhag, Sivert Lindstr=3DF6m, A=
nd=3D
ers
Hedstr=3DF6m, Paul Uvebrant, Annica Dahlstr=3DF6m.
Epilepsy Research (1994) 18: 233-247

Micromapping of the Human Brain: Three-Dimension Imaging of
Immunofluorescence and Dendrictic Morphology Using Dual- Channel
Confocal Laser Scanning Microscopy
Pavel V. Belichenko and Annica Dahlstr=3DF6m
Human Brain Mapping (1994) 1: 185-193

Morphological aberrations in therapy resistant partial epilepsy
(TRPE);
Confocal laser scanning and 3-D reconstructions of Lucifer yellow
injected atypical pyramidal neurons in epileptic human cortex
P Belichenko, P Sourander and A Dahlstr=3DF6m.
Molec. Neurobiol.(1994) 9: 245-251

Studies on the 3-dimensional architecture of dendritic spines and
varicosities in human cortex by confocal laser scanning microscopy =
=3D
and
Lucifer Yellow microinjections.
Pavel V. Belichenko , Annica Dahlstr=3DF6m
J. Neurosci. Methods (1995) 57: 55-61

Contacts between serotoninergic fibres and dorsal horn spinocerebell=
ar
tract neurones in the cat and rat; a confocal microscopic study.
Jankowska, DJ Maxwell, S Dolk, P Krutki, PV Belichenko and A Dahlstr=
=3D
=3DF6m.
Neuroscience,(1995) 67: 477-487,

Mild cortical dysplasia: A three-dimensional study of dendritic
morphology
Pavel V. Belichenko and Annica Dahlstr=3DF6m
Dysplasia of cerebral cortex and epilepsy , Eds. R. Guerrini et al
Lippincott-Raven Philadelphia-New York (1995) pp.65-70,

Mapping of the human brain in normal and pathological situations: t=
=3D
he
single cell and fiber level, employing lucifer yellow microinjection=
=3D
,
carbocyanine dye tracing, immunoflourescence, and 3D confocal laser
scanning microscopy reconstraction.
Pavel V. Belichenko and Annica Dahlstr=3DF6m
Neurosci. Protocols (1995), 95-050-03-01-30

Confocal laser scanning microscopy and 3-D reconstructions of
neuronal
structures in human brain cortex.
Pavel B. Belichenko and Annica Dahlstr=3DF6m
NeuroImage (1995) 2: 201-207

Calretinin-positive Cajal-Retzius cells persist in the adult human
neocortex
P.V.Belichenko, D.M. Vogt Weisenhorn, J. Myklossy and M.R. Celio
Neuroreport (1995) 6, 1869-1874

Morphological study of neocortical areas in Rett syndrome.
P V Belichenko, B Hagberg, A Dahlstr=3DF6m
J Neuropathol (1997) 93: 50-61

Interested parties may contact us at this e-mail address.


Annica Dahlstr=3DF6m, MD, PhD and Pavel Belichenko, MD, PhD
Prof., G=3DF6teborg University Prof. Brain Res. Institute, Moscow

Annica Dahlstr=3DF6m, MD, PhD
Professor
Inst. of Anatomy and Cell Biology
Div of Neurobiology
Medicinaregatan 3-5
S-413 90 G=3DF6teborg

Phone: +46-31-773 3378
secr.+46-31-773 3366
=3D46ax: +46-31-82 96 90






From: Steve Chapman :      PROTRAIN-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 07:49:25 -0500
Subject: Cleaning Electron Guns

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I have been involved with the maintenance of electron microscopes for 33
years. Firstly as a service engineer and then through my own training
organisation where we train both operators and service engineers. We run=

regular maintenance courses around the world when we get a good idea of
which cleaning materials and solvents are available.
=

I have been watching the discussions with interest to see if there were
many holes in the cleaning explanations. That said may I toss in my few
pennies (cents) worth?

TUNGSTEN Gun Systems

The cathode assembly should be cleaned every filament change, the anode
every other change and the electron gun at least once a year.

Materials - Almost any metal polish may be used to clean electron gun
components however it must not be LONG LIFE. Long life additives coat th=
e
cleaned item with a polymer that causes chaos in the electron gun. Look
out for any indication on the bottle or tube that the manufacturer is
claiming that you will not need to clean the metalwork so often after usi=
ng
their product!

Method - Almost more important than the cleaning efficiency is our abilit=
y
to completely remove the polishing media. So many service call outs are
due to problems caused through inefficient removal of the media. For thi=
s
reason it makes sense to use a metal polish that is easily removed by a
solvent for tungsten. In this way we not only remove the metal polish bu=
t
also clean the areas that are difficult to approach with the polish, nook=
s
and crannies! Also very important is the need to clean without damaging
the component, scratching it or placing cotton hairs within the "traps"
that the manufacturers seem to put in our way. The best cleaning techniq=
ue
is a wet clean, that is to use solutions and an ultrasonic cleaner. In
this way the damage that mechanical forces apply to the components are
minimised. Sure the cathode aperture may need a little more encouragemen=
t
to give up its deposit but only do this if the wet cleaning procedure fal=
ls
short. We like "Silvo" or "Bluebell" or "Brasso", liquid metal polishes
that will mix with a dilute ammonia solution to form a cleaning media, b=
ut
a solution that may be removed with further washes in dilute ammonia. Th=
e
mix - 10% metal polish in 90% ammonia solution - where the solution is 1=
0%
ammonium hydroxide in water. Place the components, one at a time, in the=

solution with their least important face down wards. Never put gun
components together in the solution as they will damage each other. Do n=
ot
put an aluminium cathode in ammonia as it will go black, oxide! After 20=

minutes in an ultrasonic the component should be clean, wash off in runni=
ng
water and run for another 5 minutes in straight 10% ammonium hydroxide i=
n
water. Swill off with running water and then wash in alcohol and dry. =

NEVER throw away your solutions until you have reassembled the cathode as=

it is quite possible for the small screws to have fallen out and to resid=
e
in the debris at the base of one of the cleaning containers. If you do
have a deposit remaining in the aperture area of the cathode a little
mechanical effort with the cleaning media may be required,

The gun chamber IS important and this should be cleaned through disassemb=
ly
once a year, particularly with a TEM. Dirty guns hold gas and induce mic=
ro
discharge which spoils images. Clean the gun chamber with metal polish,
remove the metal polish with dilute ammonia and buff up the walls with a
clean chamois or dear skin leather. To retain the cleanlyness of the
chamber, each time you change a filament buff up the walls with the
leather. If the chamber smells, oily-ozone smell, but is not visibly
stained, this is the result of discharge and all traces of the smell shou=
ld
be removed with dilute ammonia.

Look after your gun, it is probably the dirtiest area of the microscope,
other than the specimen area in a SEM or the camera chamber in a TEM, its=

state will determine the ultimate performance of the instrument and your
filament life.

LANTHANOM HEXABORIDE
Technique developed by Biology E.M. Unit Canberra

Clean the cathode with 25% hydrochloric acid in water by immersing for 60=

seconds and then cleaning with a weak alkaline (ammonia or sodium
hydroxide). Wash with water and then alcohol before drying.

LaB6 sources should last a long time (1000 hours plus) but they do need a=
n
intermediate cleaning session about every 250 to 350 hours. Some people
amaze us by getting away with 1100 hours without cleaning but this is the=

exception not the rule.

Good luck!

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Subject: fwd: Spurr Resin Toxicity

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Dear fellow microscopists,

I received this inquiry today, and wondered if any of you could help.
Please respond directly to Margaret, and not to the listserv.

Best regards,
Steven Slap

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} At the suggestion of my doctor, I have been searching the internet
} for information on the long-term effects of exposure to Spurr Resin.
} From your web page, I was able to obtain the ingredients list, and
} also a comment about a carcinogenic risk. This is the only
} information I have found so far.
}
} Would you perhaps know of other sites I might try, or of physicians
} or researchers who might know of others who have had an exposure to
} this resin. I have not worked in the field of electron microscopy
} for over 11 years, but the ramifications of the resin spill to my
} legs (manifesting as spontaneous bruising) continues. I'm wondering
} if others have experienced this, and what the future may hold. (What
} sort of carcinogenic risk does this resin carry?)
}
} I'd be greatful if you could put me in touch with someone who might
} have some useful information to share, and/or with a researcher
} studying these questions who would be interested in my experiences.
} Thanks for your time.
}
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From: Kathrin Augenstein :      augenstk-at-ruf.uni-freiburg.de
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:04:17 -0600
Subject: LM: staining blood cells

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Dear ladies and gentlemen!

I am an undergraduate and need help on staining blood cells which are fixed
with 0.5% glutardialdehyde.
My intention is to distinguish between monocytes and lymphocytes.
Please do not tell me to use immunohistochemistry because it is not
possible.
The reason for this is that I also use very bright fluorescent latex
beads ( FL-1 ) together with the cells and because of that I cannot take
another fluorescent marker ( FL-2 ).
I tried to stain my cells with Azur-B Eosin ( Romanowsky staining )
but it did not work.
The cells just looked black or something like a very dark violet and
I was unable to tell cytoplasm from nucleus. I think my problem is the
glutardialdehyde but I have to use that!!!
Does anyone have an idea about how to stain these fixed cells??????

Another solution could be that I separate lymphocytes and monocytes
before I apply them for the microscope. Could anyone help me with that???
To isolate mnc from whole blood I use a Ficoll-Paque gradient centrifugation
technique.
I tied adhesion assays to separate monocytes from lymphocytes ( that
means that the monocytes adhere to the petri dishes and the lymphocytes
are mostly in the supernatant ), but the monocyte fraction is not very
pure ( FACS analysis ) and I have a lot of debris because I have to use
EDTA and a rubber policeman to get the monocytes off the plate.

Thank you very much!


Yours sincerely,
Kathrin Augenstein



Institute of Immunobiology
Stefan-Meier-Str. 8
79104 Freiburg
Germany
Fax. no.: 0041-761-2035446
e-mail: augenstk-at-ruf.uni-freiburg.de






From: James Pawley :      jbpawley-at-facstaff.wisc.edu
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:13:32 -0600
Subject: Announcement: 3rd Annual UBC Live Cells Course, June 17-28

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Announcing the Third Annual

10-Day Short Course on
3D Microscopy of Living Cells

June 17 - 28, 1998



and the Second, Post-course Workshop on

3D Image Processing
June 30 - July 2



in association with the

UBC BioSciences Microscopy Facility

and the

Department of Computer Science

University of British Columbia
Vancouver, BC, Canada

Organized by Prof. James Pawley
University of Wisconsin-Madison

THE PURPOSE OF THE COURSE

Modern methods of 3D light microscopy promise a revolutionary improvement
in our ability to view living cells. To help convert this promise to
reality for a wider selection of biological scientists, an intensive ten
day residential course concentrating on all aspects of the 3D Microscopy of
Living Cells will be again held at the University of British Columbia, in
June of 1998. The course will cover every-thing from basic microscopy to
the highest levels confocal microscopy.

The course will cover:

* Quantitative 2D light microscopy
* 3D imaging in confocal and widefield
* Fluorescent and backscattered light
* Pixelation: The Nyquist Criterion
* Lasers and laser tweezers
* Objectives and aberrations
* Scanning-systems: AODs and mirrors
* Wide field/deconvolution techniques
* Detectors: operation and performance
* Optimal pinhole size/photon efficiency
* Dye design, characteristics and use
* How to keep your cells alive
* Two-photon excitation
* Video-rate confocal imaging
* Measuring ion concentrations
* Display and measurement of 3D data
* Digital hard copy and storage

Morning lecture/demonstrations will lead to hands-on laboratory exercises
each after-noon that will utilize most of the commercial instruments
currently available for 3D micro-scopic imaging. Students will work in
groups of 3 or 4 throughout the discussion and labo-ratory sessions, and
will complete a live-cell 3D study on their own specimen.

Last year, 11 separate 3D microscopical workstations were available for
student use under the supervision of an international faculty of 15. We
expect to have even more workstations in 1998. Including manufacturers
representatives, the teacher/ student ratio will be more than 1:1.

International Academic Faculty

* Jon Art University of Illinois
* Pin Ching Cheng State U. of New York, Buffalo
* Rachel Errington University of Nijmegen
* Jim Pawley University of Wisconsin-Madison
* Ernst Stelzer EMBL, Heidelberg
* Michael Weis Agriculture Canada
* Nick White Oxford University

International Commercial Faculty

* Dan Focht Bioptechs, PA
* Ted Inou=E9 Universal Imaging, PA
* Larry Keenan Cell Robotics, NM
* Paul Millard Molecular Probes, OR
* Sigrid Myrdal Multidimensional Imaging, WA
* Paul Negulescu Aurora Biosciences, CA
* Hans Van der Voort Scientific Volume Imaging, NL


TUITION

Course tuition is $1,950 US and includes lunches. On receipt of 50%
deposit, all students will receive preliminary group assignments and a
copy of the textbook, Handbook of Biological Confocal Microscopy, (Plenum,
1995). The tuition fee includes single tickets for the Opening Reception,
the Manufacturer's Reception and the Beach Party, the textbook and all
handouts. Accommodations and meals other than lunch are not included in
the tuition fee.
APPLICATIONS

Applicants will complete a questionnaire to assess knowledge level and
field of interest. Enrollment will be limited to about 24 participants.
Selection will be made on the basis of background and perceived need.
Those without previous LM experience will be provided with basic texts on
request to read before the course begins.
Application forms can be down-loaded from the WWW site at

http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/ladic/
course/bulletin.html

or obtained from:

Prof. James Pawley, Rm. 1235,
1500 Johnson Dr., Madison, WI, USA 53706.
Phone: 1-608-263-3147, Fax 1-608-265-5315,
Email: jbpawley-at-facstaff.wisc.edu

Application deadlines:
Application forms
must be received by March 1, 1998!

Successful applicants will be notified by April 1, and a deposit of 50%
must be received by April 15, 1998 to reserve your position. In general,
refunds of the deposit will only be possible if your position can be filled
from the Waiting List. The remainder of the fees are due before
registration.

DATES:

Applications must be received by Mar. 1/98
Deposit due Apr. 15/98
Registration 8:00 - 7:00 pm Wednesday, June 17/98
Last class will end with lunch Sun., June 28/98


WHO SHOULD ATTEND?

The course is designed for biological research scientists and advanced
graduate students who use, or plan to apply 3D microscopy in studies
involving living cells. No previous experience in advanced light
microscopy is required but applicants will be asked how they plan to use 3D
microscopy and to describe a short research project involving living cells
that they plan to carry out during the course. Students with other
interests in 3D light microscopy will be welcomed if space permits but
usually the course is heavily oversubscribed.

Classes meet from 8:30 -12:00 and 1:00 - 6:00 with lecture-demonstrations
in the morning and laboratory sessions in the afternoon. On average, only
four topics will be covered in each morning session. There will be enough
3D microscopy setups to permit groups of 3-4 students to "learn-by-doing"
during a carefully designed set of laboratory sessions. Lab handouts will
include detailed questions to stimulate group discussions.

=46rom Sunday to Friday, facilities and supervision will be available until
11:00 pm, for those students who wish to work on their own projects.There

USE OF LEARNING GROUPS

Prior to the course, students will be organized into groups and encouraged
to communicate by email/ phone, about the "Living-cell" group projects that
they will pursue in the evenings and that will be presented to the class on
the last day of the course. It has been found that group interactions
make best use of students' prior experience and can be very effective in
teaching the practical skills covered in a hands-on course of this type.

ARRANGEMENTS FOR LIVING SAMPLES

Students must contact the Course Organizer to make necessary arrangements
for the transport and maintenance of cell lines etc. needed for their
projects. Organisms linked in any way with human disease are not permitted
because of safety considerations. Transport and customs arrangements for
living specimens are entirely the responsibility of the student.

****************************************************************************=
*
3D Image Processing Workshop
June 30 - July 2

The course will cover 3D image processing
for measurement and display. Enrollment is limited to those attending the
3D Micro-scopy course. Tuition : $700 US (lunch incl.)
Live-cell Course

WHO SHOULD ATTEND?

The course is designed for biologists working with multidimensional and
possibly multicolor microscopical data sets. Getting the data is only half
of the battle. Image data in 3, 4 or even 5 dimensions may be difficult to
store let alone analyze or display. This course is to help students
understand the hardware and software aspects of this problem and give them
the techniques they need to make the most of their data.

The course is designed for biologists who need to make measurements on 3D
microscopical data sets and then display the results in an effective
manner. The course will be taught in a computer laboratory belonging to
the Computer Sciences Department at the University of British Columbia
which contains 27 SGI Indy workstaions and much of the other equipment
needed for the measurement and display of 3D digital image data. Software
from a variety of vendors serving the 3D microscopy market will be
described, demonstrated and available for use.

Course Organizers
* Nick White Oxford University
* Hans Van der Voort Scientific Volume Imaging, NL

=46aculty
* Pin Ching Cheng State U. of New York, Buffalo
* Rachel Errington University of Nijmegen
* Alain Fournier Computer Science, UBC
* Sigrid Myrdal Seattle, WA

PLAN OF INSTRUCTION

Classes will meet from 8:30 -12:00 and 1:00 - 6:00 with
lecture-demonstrations followed immediately by hands-on laboratory sessions
using SGI work-stations. Students will "learn-by-doing" with two to a
machine. Lab handouts will describe specific exercises to be performed on
"canned" data sets.

Students also attending the 3D Microscopy Course, will be able to analyze,
process and display the 3D data they have collected from their own
specimens. Facilities and supervision will be available until 11:00 PM,
for students to work on their own data.

***********************************************************************

ACCOMMODATIONS

Campus accommodations are student rooms or suites situated in the Walter
Gage Residence located two blocks from the lecture-lab facilities and one
block from the Student Union Building. The Union contains a large
cafeteria, lounge, bank, etc.
Many of the rooms in the Gage Residence have breath-taking views of the
mountains of North and West Vancouver, and of the Pacific Ocean. A variety
of accommodation types are available:
$Cdn ($US)

- Single room w/shared washroom $30(23)

- Single room w/private bath $59(44)

- Double room (kitchenette, priv. bath,
TV, phone, double bedroom plus
separate sitting room) $85(63)

- Triple suite (twin bedroom and queen
Murphy bed in sitting room, balcony,

kitchen, bath, TV, phone) $99(74)

(All fees are per night. Add 15% VAT. US rates are approximate and vary
with exhange rate.)


Students are encouraged to bring friends or family members to enjoy the
pristine beauty of the Vancouver area and the miles of lovely beaches that
surround the campus. Arrangements can easily be made to extend your stay
before or after the course.

MEALS

Lunches and morning and afternoon snacks are provided. Other meals can be
purchased in the Union Cafeteria or any of a number of nearby restaurants.
The Opening Reception and the Beach Party and the Manufacturer's Reception
are included in the tuition fee. Additional tickets can be purchased for
spouses and accompanying persons.

TRAVEL

Air:

Since the normalization of airfares between Canada and the US, fares to
Vancouver from other parts of North America have been substantially
reduced. The University campus is a 20-minute taxi ride from Vancouver
International Airport. Students will receive a comprehensive selection of
tourist information after their application has been accepted.

Bus:

=46or family members wishing to see the many sights, Vancouver has an
excellent system of inexpensive and convenient public transportation.

Tours: Tours of Vancouver and environs can be arranged.

For more information & application forms,
please contact the Course Organizer:

Prof. James Pawley,
1500 Johnson Dr., Madison, WI 53706.
Phone: 1-608-263-3147/265-5315 fax.
Email: jbpawley-at-facstaff.wisc.edu.



Or check out our WWW site at:

http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/ladic/course/bulletin.html

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Prof. James B. Pawley, Ph. 608-263-3147
Room 1235, Engineering Research Building, FAX 608-265-5315
1500 Engineering Dr., Madison, WI, 53706 JBPAWLEY-at-FACSTAFF.WISC.EDU
"A scientist is not one who can answer questions
but one who can question answers." Theodore Schick Jr.,

Skeptical Enquirer, 21-2:39






From: Peiyi WANG :      pw2-at-soton.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:06:05 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: Particle Size Analysis, More Info.

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Hi, there,

Most recently I have done a lot of particle size analysis in the use of
either TEM or OP. The particles actually are such sort of precipitate in
metallic systems. Would you put more details in terms of what would you
really want to know, especially for what kind of materials you are
working for.


Peiyi Wang

Research Fellow
Department of Engineering Materials
University of Southampton
Southampton SO17 1BJ
UK

Tel: +44 (01703) 595101
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From: Tom Phillips :      tphillips-at-biosci.mbp.missouri.edu
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:54:26 -0500
Subject: Re: TEM - HEPES buffer for lung tissue fixation

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I switched to HEPES about 14 years ago for both my
Paraformaldehyde/Glutaraldehyde buffer and for my osmium buffer. Safer,
better for environment, and cheaper (I think). I noticed no difference
compared to cacodylate (which I had previously used). A couple of years
ago, I got into a discussion in which a colleague was touting PIPES as a
better alternative. The logic is that HEPES has a pKa of 7.5. I use it at
7.4 for my fixes. Aldehyde fixes tend to acidify over time, therefore,
since you start on the low side of the pKa and continue to fight a drop on
that side, you have less buffering capacity. PIPES on the other hand, has
a pKa of 6.8 so if you started at 7.4, you would have more buffering
capacity (0.5 on both sides of the pKa). This is good logic but I didn't
bother switching. Good luck.

-------------.
}
} Hello everyone !
} We want to change our fixation and processing protocol for pulmonary tissues
} and cells to use HEPES buffer instead of sodium cacodylate buffer. Is anybody
} out there who has made her/his experience with HEPES buffer in conventional
} epoxy resin embedment. We are especially interested in experience of lipid
} retention/extraction.
}
} Heinz Fehrenbach (Inst. of Pathology, TU Dresden, Germany)


Thomas E. Phillips, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Biological Sciences
Director, Molecular Cytology Core Facility
3 Tucker Hall
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211
(573)-882-4712 (voice)
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From: Geoff McAuliffe :      mcauliff-at-UMDNJ.EDU
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:12:59 -0800
Subject: re: LM of blood cells

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Dear Kathrin:

You may be able to circumvent the effects of glutaraldehyde on
the 'stainability' your cells with borohydride reduction:

"The pH dependence of borohydride as an aldehyde reductant" Bayliss, O.B.
and C.W.M. Adams. Histochemical Journal 11:111-116, 1979.

Remember that borohydride solutions deteriorate VERY quickly,
within minutes of preparation. Good luck!

Geoff
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From: Sam Coker :      Sam_Coker-at-Pall.com
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:33:49 -0500
Subject: LM: staining blood cells

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You may want to try the following options

MONOCLONAL ANTIBODY

I am not sure whether you have a flow cytometer or not, but a fluorescent
microscope will work as well. You can stain your Monocytes with CD14
monoclonal antibody that is conjugated to either FITC FL-1) or PE (FL-2).
Your lymphocytes can be stained with CD3 monoclonal antibody that is
conjugated to either FITC or PE. You can use the two monoclonal antibodies
together in which case the monoclonal antibodies will have to be conjugated
to different fluorochromes, for example CD14-FITC combined with CD3-PE
You can obtain the monoclonal antibody combination from Becton Dickinson
Immunocytometry Systems, 2350 Qume Drive, San Jose, CA 95131-1807, Phone
Number ( 800) 223-8226 .

In addition Becton Dickinson also sell the "TriTest" in which three
different leukocyte specific monoclonal antibodies are combined together,
CD45 is conjugated to a very bright red fluorochrome PerCP and monocytes
and lymhocytes have different binding capacities for the CD45 monoclonal
antibody. Note CD45 is Pan leukocyte monoclonal antibody that identifies
all leukocytes.


FIXATIVE

Try using paraformaldehyde instead of glutaraldehyde.


I hope the above information is of help to you. Good Luck.






Bob Holthausen
11/13/97 11:52 AM

To: Sam Coker/SLSNY/Pall/US-at-Pall
cc:

Yours sincerely,
Kathrin Augenstein


Institute of Immunobiology
Stefan-Meier-Str. 8
79104 Freiburg
Germany
Fax. no.: 0041-761-2035446
e-mail: augenstk-at-ruf.uni-freiburg.de












From: Randy Tindall :      rtindell-at-NMSU.Edu
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:00:35 -0700
Subject: SEM/EDS/Conductive epoxies

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Hi,

Yet another question from the unpredictable world of multi-user facilities.
One of our users embeds samples in epoxy and polishes them to eliminate
topographical variables. He requires both imaging and EDS, which precludes
metal coating for conductivity.

He was wondering about the availability of epoxies containing conductive
components, which might allow us to use high-vacuum SEM with secondary
electron imaging. Does such a thing exist? Has anyone ever used a
standard epoxy and added their own conductive "secret recipes" before
polymerizing?

I'm aware that carbon coating is an option, as well as painting conductive
stripes of colloidal carbon or silver to the edge of the embedded materials
and down to the aluminum stub. The idea of a conductive epoxy is
intriguing, though, for the time and mess-saving possibilities.

As usual, thanks in advance for the always helpful replies I get to these
queries.


Randy Tindall
Electron Microscope Laboratory
Box 3EML
New Mexico State University
Las Cruces, NM 88003




From: CANTINO-at-ORACLE.PNB.UCONN.EDU (MARIE CANTINO)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:05:28 -0400
Subject: TEM - HEPES buffer for lung tissue fixation

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We have been experimenting with the use of HEPES as a non-toxic substitute
for NaCacodylate for TEM during the past 6 months. So far the results have
been good for mammalian and amphibian tissues (cardiac muscle, pancreas,
heart, tongue). The membranes look good and we seem to have no trouble
retaining lipid droplets in frog atrial muscle. I would be interested in
anything anyone else has to offer. Also, I am assuming that HEPES is less
toxic than Cacodylate. If anyone knows otherwise, I would like to hear
about it.

Dr. Marie E. Cantino
Dept. of Physiology and Neurobiology, U-131
University of Connecticut
Storrs, CT 06269
Ph: 860-486-3588
Fax: 860-486-1936







From: Jacky Larnould :      larnould-at-mnet.fr
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:36:56 +0100
Subject: RE:Image storage problem

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Hi everybody
Here is my (short)experience on CDR.
I have a Sony CDR 928 on IDE Bus ( all my system is IDE not SCSI)and the
first pb I encounter is that my old Windows95 version never never recognize
this CDR. So I installed an OSR2 version on a new disk and all was OK.
The software is easy CD pro from adaptec (upgraded for IDE). First writing
(600Mo) no problem but impossible to read the datas on my 1 years old CD
8x. I check on many other even on a very old 2x Mitsumi and all was OK.
So I change for a 24x Pionneer (the CDs were from Sony).
All that takes at least one week late at night!
My conclusions are the following:
Writting speed doesn't affect reading, it's just a safety, the slower the
safest.
Never use Multisession, the price of CDs is now as low as 2$ and doesn't
justify that.
I use different manufacturer for CDs (SONY TRAXDATA...) without PB.
You can never be sure that your work can be read on all CD for example
I've made an Audio which is readable by all CD except on a JVC CD!
I enclose a part of my Easy CD pro user's manual that prove that
manufacturers know the problem.
I have no interrest in any of the above company (just problem with some!)
and this is my personnal opinion.
If more information needed pls Email me.

FROM EASY CD PRO VERSION 2.0 ADAPTEC USER'S GUIDE

Problems Reading Recordable CDs
If you have successfully written a CD but have problems reading it,
there are a number of possible reasons :
* If the CD can be read on the CD recorder but not on a standard CD-ROM
drive, check in Disc Info and Tools to make sure that the session
containing the data you just wrote is closed. CD-ROM drives cannot read
data from a session which is not closed.
=95 If your CD is ejected, or you receive an error message, or you have
random problems accessing files from the CD, the problem may be that your
CD-ROM drive is not well calibrated to read recordable CDs.

a If you recorded the CD using the DOS filenames option in the File Names
tab, but there are nonetheless difficulties in reading back the CD on DOS
or Windows OR 3.1 system, it may be that you have an older version of
MSCDEX (before version 2.23) on your system.

Problems Reading Multisession CDs
If you can see only data recorded in the first session on the CD but not in
subsequent sessions, it may be that
=95 You recorded the CD in CD-ROM (Mode 1) format, while your multisession
CD-ROM drive only recognizes CD-ROM XA (Mode 2) multisession CDs.

or,
=95 Your CD-ROM drive does not support muti session at all.

If you can see only data recorded in the last session, you may have
forgotten to link your new data with data previously recorded on the CD.
Make sure to select a track in the Load Contents tab before recording.

CD-ROM Drive Incompatibility with Recordable CDs
Sometimes, it appears that you wrote a CD without trouble and can read it
on your CD recorder ; however, when you put it in a standard CD-ROM drive,
the CD is ejected, or you get error messages such as no CD-ROM or not ready
reading, or you have random problems accessing some files or directories.
You may find that the problems vanish completely when reading the CD on a
different CD-ROM drive.
This maybe due to compatibility problems with some CD-ROM drives,
especially older ones, and recordable CDs. Some CD-ROM drives' lasers are
not calibrated to read recordable CDs, whose surface is different from that
of factory-pressed CDs. If your CD-ROM drive reads mass-produced (silver)
CDs but not recordable CDs, check with the CD-ROM drive manufacture to
determine whether this is the problem. In some cases , an upgrade is
available which will solve the problem.
The combination of CD brand and CD recorder can make a difference. Use CD
media recommended by your CD recorder manufacturer.

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From: Warren Straszheim :      wesaia-at-iastate.edu
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:46:34 -0600
Subject: HP M-O Drive help needed

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I know this isn't strictly microscopy, but in light of the recent discussion
about data storage, perhaps someome will be able to help.

We have an HP 1300T (1.3 GB, 650 MB on each side) magneto-optical drive that
has failed us. It still reads and writes the disks okay, BUT ONLY when it
accepts the disks. Normally (99+%), it tries three times to load the disk
and then gives up.

We blew a lot of dust out of the unit and have opened it up and cleaned
every place we could easily find (and a few more that we couldn't). Yet it
still fails to accept cartridges.

HP has told us that the unit can only be replaced at a net cost of $650. I
have also been told that encountering a failure after 2-1/2 years, with use
a couple times a week over that period, is about par for the course. To say
the least, that sounds quite short to me. I don't particularly wish to
invest more money in such a short-lived option. (There was always the
question of obsolescence but apparently there is also one of short working
life.)

So the request-
Does anyone out there have a drive that we could make some arrangements with
to retrieve the data from our library of cartridges. We have about 10 GB of
data to pull off. Then we would like to get away from the M-O drive and go
to another media, probably CD-rewritable.

If perchance we could borrow someone's drive for a short period, I think we
would be glad to leave you with our inventory of cartridges after we are
done with the exercise. Any takers?

----------------------------------------------------
Warren E. Straszheim
23 Town Engineering
Iowa State University
Ames IA, 50011
Phone: 515-294-8187 FAX: 515-294-8216

E-Mail: wesaia-at-iastate.edu (or: wes-at-ameslab.gov)
http://www.marl.iastate.edu/marl/ (re: SEM)
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~iprt_info/cfce/ (re: coal)

electron microscopy, x-ray analysis, image analysis, computer applications





From: Warren Straszheim :      wesaia-at-iastate.edu
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:46:35 -0600
Subject: Re: SEM/EDS/Conductive epoxies

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We used to use some copper-filled diallyl pthallate (sp?) to embed coal. It
was a hot-preesed, thermosetting material from Beuhler or Leco. However,
there was still a substantial fraction of the surface that was
nonconductive. I don't recall if we could count on it providing a conducting
path to ground. I think we C-coated most of our samples anyway.

At that time I was looking at S in coal and had little trouble from the C
coating.

At 11:00 AM 11/13/97 -0700, you wrote:
} Hi,
}
} Yet another question from the unpredictable world of multi-user facilities.
} One of our users embeds samples in epoxy and polishes them to eliminate
} topographical variables. He requires both imaging and EDS, which precludes
} metal coating for conductivity.
}
} He was wondering about the availability of epoxies containing conductive
} components, which might allow us to use high-vacuum SEM with secondary
} electron imaging. Does such a thing exist? Has anyone ever used a
} standard epoxy and added their own conductive "secret recipes" before
} polymerizing?
}
} I'm aware that carbon coating is an option, as well as painting conductive
} stripes of colloidal carbon or silver to the edge of the embedded materials
} and down to the aluminum stub. The idea of a conductive epoxy is
} intriguing, though, for the time and mess-saving possibilities.
}
} As usual, thanks in advance for the always helpful replies I get to these
} queries.
}
} Randy Tindall
----------------------------------------------------
Warren E. Straszheim
23 Town Engineering
Iowa State University
Ames IA, 50011
Phone: 515-294-8187 FAX: 515-294-8216

E-Mail: wesaia-at-iastate.edu (or: wes-at-ameslab.gov)
http://www.marl.iastate.edu/marl/ (re: SEM)
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~iprt_info/cfce/ (re: coal)

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From: JMARDINL-at-IMO.Intel.Com
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 12:50:46 PST
Subject: Hand Care

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I have a suggestion for the poor fellow who gets dry, cracked skin on his
fingers in the winter: cut off your fingers. All of them. An ax should work finebut you could also use a power saw. Then you will never have to worry about dry
cracked skin on your fingers. It will also be difficult for you to type, so I
will probably get slightly fewer stupid e-mails about non-microscopy subjects.




From: Michael K. Cinibulk :      cinibumk-at-ML.WPAFB.AF.MIL
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 15:51:26 -0500
Subject: Re: SEM/Conductive Epoxies

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Epoxy Technology, Inc. manufactures a complete spectrum of epoxies
including at least four that are electrically conductive; all contain
silver. I have not used any of them myself. BTW, their EPO-TEK 353ND is
the same as Gatan's G-1, which I do use.

Call them at 800 227 2201 for a catalog.




Michael K. Cinibulk
UES, Inc.
Air Force Research Laboratory
Materials and Manufacturing Directorate
Wright-Patterson AFB, OH 45433-7817
937 255 9339 phone
937 656 4296 fax
cinibumk-at-ml.wpafb.af.mil




From: Sally Shrom :      sally-at-retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:01:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: TEM opening

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There is a position open now for an electron microscopy specialist .
Prepare ultra thin
sections, and photogragh them using JEOL 1200EX. Darkroom, Adobe
Illustrator/Photoshop.

Salary commensurate with experience.

Mail or fax resume and two letters of recommendation to:

Dr. Peter Sterling
123 Anatomy/Chemistry BLDG
Department of Neuroscience
University of Pennsylvania
Philadelphia, PA 19104-6058

FAX # 215-898-9871







From: Wil Bigelow :      bigelow-at-engin.umich.edu
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:25:01 -0400
Subject: Cleaning LaB6 guns

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The matter of cleaning parts and components of vacuum systems is discussed
in considerable detail on p. 69 - 74 of my book 'Vacuum Methods in Electron
Microscopy' (Ashgate Pub. Co. Tel: 800-535-9544 ). Cleaning methods are
extremely important in determining the pumpdown characteristics of vacuum
systems, and the practical ultimate vacuum attainable in them, because of
the overriding contribution of the outgassing phenomenon to these processes.

In particular, on p. 72 I cite a recommendation by Peter Sewell, of Lab-6
Inc. (a company that deals extensively with lanthanum hexaboride), that
lanthanum hexaboride deposits can be effectively removed from Wehnelt
cylinders by soaking them for about a minute in a solution consisting of
one part by volumne of concentrated hydrochloric acid and four parts water,
followed sequentially by thorough rinses with water, dilute ammonia,
deionized water, and isopropyl alcohol, whereupon they are dried with a
jet of clean hot air.

Wilbur C. Bigelow, Prof. Emeritus
Materials Sci. & Engr., University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2136 e-mail: bigelow-at-umich.edu;
Fx:313-763-4788; Ph:313-764-3321






From: Caroline Schooley :      schooley-at-mcn.org
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:03:00 -0700
Subject: Re: fwd: Spurr Resin Toxicity

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} I received this inquiry today, and wondered if any of you could help.
} Please respond directly to Margaret, and not to the listserv.
} }
} } At the suggestion of my doctor, I have been searching the internet
} } for information on the long-term effects of exposure to Spurr Resin.

I'd like to see the responses to this query on the listserver, in addition
to the direct response, please.


Caroline Schooley
Educational Outreach Coordinator
Microscopy Society of America
Box 117, 45301 Caspar Point Road
Caspar, CA 95420
Phone/FAX (707)964-9460
Project MICRO: http://www.MSA.microscopy.com/ProjectMICRO/Books.html
Intertidal invertebrates: http://www.fortbragg.k12.ca.us/AG/PCI/






From: Luc Nocente :      ln-at-noesisvision.com
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:14:10 -0500
Subject: unsubscribe

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From: wgong :      wgong-at-UNM.EDU
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:03:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: unsubscribe

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Hi, everybody!

Do you now if we have a newgroup on glass sciences? Currently I am
editing some data on glass transition temperatures on some simple systems
such as Al2O3-P2O5 and MgO-SiO2. If anyone have referrences on these
glass transition temperatures or viscocity or know if we have a glass
news group, please let me know.

Thank you very much in advance.

W.L. Gong




From: Scott Schwinge :      schwinge-at-fhl.washington.edu
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:46:52 -0800
Subject: SEM/EDS/Conductive epoxies

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Acme Conductive Adhesives (Division of Allied Products Corp. / New Haven,
CT) used to sell a product called "E-Solder No. 3022," which is a
conductive epoxy containing silver. It was intended as a substitute for
solder in electronics repair when soldering isn't possible. I haven't
used it for SEM. Hope this is helpful.

Scott Schwinge
University of Washington
Friday Harbor Labs
360-378-2165


} Yet another question from the unpredictable world of multi-user facilities.
} One of our users embeds samples in epoxy and polishes them to eliminate
} topographical variables. He requires both imaging and EDS, which precludes
} metal coating for conductivity.
}
} He was wondering about the availability of epoxies containing conductive
} components, which might allow us to use high-vacuum SEM with secondary
} electron imaging. Does such a thing exist? Has anyone ever used a
} standard epoxy and added their own conductive "secret recipes" before
} polymerizing?
}
} I'm aware that carbon coating is an option, as well as painting conductive
} stripes of colloidal carbon or silver to the edge of the embedded materials
} and down to the aluminum stub. The idea of a conductive epoxy is
} intriguing, though, for the time and mess-saving possibilities.
}
} As usual, thanks in advance for the always helpful replies I get to these
} queries.
}
}
} Randy Tindall
} Electron Microscope Laboratory
} Box 3EML
} New Mexico State University
} Las Cruces, NM 88003







From: Hermann Reese :      iacsa_df-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 20:18:35 -0500
Subject: RE: SEM/EDS/Conductive Epoxies

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Randy Tindall wrote:
} He was wondering about the availability of epoxies containing conductiv=
e
} components, which might allow us to use high-vacuum SEM with secondary
} electron imaging. Does such a thing exist? =


Allied High Tech Products has a Conductive Mounting Powder (order #
169-10005) with carbon particles.
Allied High Tech (800) 950-9347 or (310) 635-2466

or

Electron Microscopy Sciences has a Conductive Cold Mount (# 50452-01) wit=
h
copper particles.
EMS (800) 523-5874 or (215) 646-1566


"I have no commercial or financial interest in the companies stated above=
,
except within Mexico."

Hermann Reese
IACSA Mexico-City




From: James Martin :      James.S.Martin-at-williams.edu
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 21:33:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Hand Care

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On Thu, 13 Nov 1997 JMARDINL-at-IMO.Intel.Com wrote:

} I have a suggestion for the poor fellow who gets dry, cracked skin on his
} fingers in the winter: cut off your fingers. All of them. An ax should
} work finebut you could also use a power saw. Then you will never have to
} worry about dry cracked skin on your fingers. It will also be difficult
} for you to type, so I will probably get slightly fewer stupid e-mails
} about non-microscopy subjects.

Thank you for your kind suggestion, which I will add to the summary list
of responses that I posted to the list. We can only hope the suggestion
will be archived for future generations of microscopists.

I trust that _no one_ will feel the need to unnecessarily clutter the list
with redundant thanks.

The suggestion was certainly novel, but I would be remiss in not pointing
out (so to speak) the unexpected downside. When using my new voice
recognition software, I find my lips chap more easily. I will, however,
seek advice for this problem elsewhere.

James "No-Fingers" Martin





From: Joan Clark :      j.clark-at-zoology.unimelb.edu.au
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:15:38 +1100 (EST)
Subject: H & E staining of epon araldite sections - help needed

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Does anyone have a method for the H and & E staining of resin sections. I
would appreciate any methods or references
TIA Joan Clark






From: Witold Zielinski :      WIZIEL-at-inmat.pw.edu.pl
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 09:45:55 CET
Subject: Re: SEM/EDS/Conductive epoxies

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From: Witold Zielinski :      WIZIEL-at-inmat.pw.edu.pl
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 09:45:55 CET
Subject: Re: SEM/EDS/Conductive epoxies

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Hi,

Well, this is maybe not exactly an unswer which one may excpect,
but it may give an idea how to deal with the problem.
We are using old electric discharge machine and it requires from
time to time the samples to be glued. So to make, the glue or
epoxy conaductive some carbone powder is add.

Regards

Witold Zielinski
Warsaw University of Technology
Narbutta 85, O2-524 Warszawa
Poland




From: DrJohnRuss-at-aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 03:07:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: ANNOUNCE: Image analysis workshops

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Workshops on Quantitative Image Analysis

May 21-23 and May 25-27, 1998
North Carolina State University
Raleigh, North Carolina, USA

and

June 15-18, 1998
Danish Technological Institute
Taastrup, Denmark

This highly regarded hands-on course taught by expert faculty has
been presented annually for more than 15 years. It deals with all phases
of quantitative and computer-assisted imaging from acquisition and
processing through measurement and stereological interpretation.
Attendees receive The Image Processing Handbook plus a CD-ROM
containing images, algorithms (Photoshop-compatible for Mac and
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scientists,
technicians and administrators using or intending to use these techniques.
Attendees typically come from materials science, geology, biological and
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own images for the hands-on lab sessions.

For detailed information and registration contact Alice Warren,
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Information is available on-line at the following sites:

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From: Stephen Griffiths :      s.griffiths-at-ucl.ac.uk
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 08:40:24 -0000
Subject: Re: Hand Care

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JMARDINL-at-IMO.Intel.Com wrote:-

} I have a suggestion for the poor fellow who gets dry, cracked skin on his
} fingers in the winter: cut off your fingers. All of them. An ax should
work finebut you could also use a power saw. Then you will never have to
worry about dry
} cracked skin on your fingers. It will also be difficult for you to type,
so I
} will probably get slightly fewer stupid e-mails about non-microscopy
subjects.
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--------------------------------------

I assume the writer, who did not sign his name, is trying to be funny.
Frankly I think these remarks are offensive and purile.

E-mails about safety and the side effects of chemicals used in microscopy
are entirely "on-subject".
There are many reagents used in microscopy which cause many workers a lot
of problems and will continue to do so long after the exposure has ceased.
Dry skin problems and dermatitis are often caused by exposure to microscopy
laboratory reagents.

I share this problem of dry, cracking, bleeding and painful finger tips
caused by exposure over many years to Lowicryl K4M, even though I used
gloves. I no longer use the chemical but any adverse stimulus such as cold,
drying or exposure dehydrating agents can cause a flare up of the
condition.

Information on the best way to alleviate such problems from fellow
sufferers and/or occupational health experts is useful and relevant. The
list is not just for "techie-talk". It is about the subject as a whole, and
that includes safety and health.
If you don't want to read the e-mails use the delete key before opening, as
I and many of us do, on many subjects on this list which don't interest or
concern us.

Stephen Griffiths.

{} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {}
Stephen Griffiths
Visual Science Department
Institute of Ophthalmology
Bath Street, London. EC1V 9EL
e-mail:- s.griffiths-at-ucl.ac.uk (work address)
or stephen.griffiths-at-dial.pipex.com (home address)
{} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {} {}





From: Wolfgang Muss :      W.Muss-at-lkasbg.gv.at
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:07:14 +-100
Subject: Re/fwd:SPURR Toxicity

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} I received this inquiry today, and wondered if any of you could help.
} Please respond directly to Margaret, and not to the listserv.
} }
} } At the suggestion of my doctor, I have been searching the internet
} } for information on the long-term effects of exposure to Spurr Resin.

Caroline Schooley WROTE:
Educational Outreach Coordinator
Microscopy Society of America
Box 117, 45301 Caspar Point Road
Caspar, CA 95420
Phone/FAX (707)964-9460
Project MICRO: http://www.MSA.microscopy.com/ProjectMICRO/Books.html
Intertidal invertebrates: http://www.fortbragg.k12.ca.us/AG/PCI/

"I'd like to see the responses to this query on the listserver, in addition
to the direct response, please."

I would like to have this/these informations too (either via MSA-server or directly to
my e-mail-box: W.Muss-at-lkasbg.gv.at)
Thank you very much for your efforts!

Wolfgang MUSS, A-5020 SALZBURG, Austria











From: Arthur Schuessler :      schueslr-at-sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:39:21 +0100
Subject: addition Image storage problems - Oh, no not again!

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Only an addition: the new (actual) EIDE Bus ("DMA33")has a throughput of
33MB/sec and is thus nearly as fast as UW-SCSI.

Richard E. Edelmann wrote:
Things to keep in mind with these numbers (1) you'll
never see these speeds in reality - they are all determined in ideal
situations not real world usage, but they are comparable with each
other; (2) Actual transfer rates will vary depending on the
interface used (i.e. the max. throughputs for the interfaces are
EIDE (1-10MB/sec) vs SCSI (5-10MB/sec) vs SCSI-Wide (20MB/Sec) vs
SCSI-UltraWide (40MB/Sec) vs parallel ports ( {1 vs Fiber Coupling
(a.k.a. Fire Wire, 100+MB/Sec), (3) System configuration will also
effect this; i.e. what CPU, what BUS speed, how much memory (RAM)
what other components are in the system, what operating system, etc.
, (4)


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From: DUNNTEM-at-aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 05:00:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: TEM Liposomes. Neg.staining.

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In reply to a question on the staining of liposomes posted on Nov 03, I
replied with the following on Nov 04:

} .......I have a couple of suggestions:

} 1] Apply your suspension to the Formvar surface of the support film rather
} than the carbon surface. You may 'catch' more of the particles that
way......etc. etc.

It only showed up in my mail box today - November 13 (I am assuming it
appeared in everyone's box today also). Does anyone else experience delays
like this in their postings?


Ted Dunn




From: Bart Cannon :      cannonmp-at-accessone.com
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:11:34 -0800
Subject: Conductive Epoxy

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Master Bond EP 75 is a graphite filled two part epoxy which is
electrically conductive. It is rated at 50 ohm/cm, but I measure about
10k ohms/cm.

Metal particles cast and polished in this material show no charging when
imaged at fast or slow rates in BSE or SE mode in my SEMQ. Nice to see
the original colors of a material through the light optics. X-ray count
rates seem OK.

It may be suitable for high vacuum since it contains no solvents. I
can't melt a hole in the stuff with a 100 nA focused beam.

Adhesion is excellent. In fact, it sticks to silastic mold perimeters.

Mixing is a little fussy. 3 parts to 100. A perfect mix might get the
50 ohm/cm value. Shelf life is supposed to be less than a year and it's
expensive.

The grain size of the carbon filler is relatively coarse. Colloidal
graphite might be better.

This posting is definitely to help you people and not Master Bond, a
company I did not find especially cooperative toward experimenters.

Master Bond is located in Hackensack, NJ. Phone 201 343 8983.

Bart Cannon
Cannon Microprobe
Seattle




From: rschoonh-at-sph.unc.edu (Robert Schoonhoven)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 08:15:39 -0500
Subject: Re: H & E staining of epon araldite sections -reply

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Joan,

Knowing the specific resin would be a help. I have several methods for H&E
staining and they are dependant on the type of plastic the tissue in embedded
in.

-- Begin original message --

} Does anyone have a method for the H and & E staining of resin sections. I
} would appreciate any methods or references
} TIA Joan Clark
}
}
}

-- End original message --


regards,
Bob
Robert Schoonhoven
Laboratory of Molecular Carcinogenesis and Mutagenesis
Dept. of Environmental Sciences and Engineering
University of North Carolina
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Chapel Hill, NC 27599
Phone
office 919-966-6343
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From: Woody.N.White-at-mcdermott.com
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 8:43:00 -0600
Subject: Re: SEM/EDS/Conductive epoxies (longish)

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If ever an intrinsically conductive polymer is developed which can
be cast or hot pressed, I want to know. Conductive polymers are
not uncommon these days, but not in a form useable for specimen
mounting. Current conductive resins use tricks like adding iodine
to the polymer chain to free-up some conductance electrons. ...A
nice "tracer" too - unless you need to analyze for I. I have only
found them in milled, "set" powder form.

I have used the silver epoxy and it does work. The Ag flakes are
usually rather large, however, leaving lots of epoxy to charge at
high mag. It can also be rather expensive to use for large "met"
mounts. For economy, embed the specimen in a small amount of
Ag/epoxy, mount in conventional mount, prepare, then carbon paint
the remaining insulator.

The carbon loaded thermoset also works in a limited way. I have
had problems with this material being difficult to clean. It is
extremely difficult NOT to leave a nearly (optically) transparent
film on a polished metal surface. The compounds I have tried
*seem* to be slightly soluble in alcohols. If dried on the surface
(often blowing w/N2 is not enough), it is back to the polishing
wheel for removal.

Of the commercially available materials, I have had the best
success with copper loaded hopt press resin. I used to get mine
from Struers, but I understand they no longer make it. It does
have the problem of charging resin islands as the structure is a
network of Cu surrounding "islands" of resin. Still tough if you
need to be near an edge. The bulk conductivith is excellent.

I understand there is a similar material using iron loading, but I
have not tried that one....


I have also "brewed" my own conductive "cold-set" resin by adding a
very rich loading of zinc DUST to acrilic/polyester type resins.
The bulk conductivity is poor, but was sufficient to prevent
charging in my application. BEWARE of zinc dust. It is reactive,
like many metal powders/dusts. Be sure it will not cause problems
(boom!, fire!, etc:) with a resin you may choose to combine with
it!

Whenever possible, I just "paint" around the specimen using carbon
paint. Using a 0000 sable brush, C paint thinned to an appropriate
viscosity, and a 20x stereo optical scope, it is possible to "run"
the paint right to the specimen edge. If you are lucky, surface
tension and the mount/specimen discontinuity will cause the paint
to stop at the interface. Don't have too many cups of coffee
before attempting this!

Woody White, McDermott Technology, Inc.
http://www.mtiresearch.com

Also woody.white-at-worldnet.att.net
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From: Louie Kerr :      lkerr-at-mbl.edu
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:22:07 -0500
Subject: Re: Drive Belt for OmU2

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A good source of belts of different types (and lots of other useful items)
is the company:

Small Parts, Inc.
6891 N.E. Third Ave
PO Box 381966
Miami, FL 33238-1966
305-751-0856

You should be able to find their catalog in your local machine shop. They
have round polycord belts that can be cut to length and melted together,
timing belts, and viton and Buna-N o-rings.

Hope this helps,
Louie

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From: Wolfgang Muss :      W.Muss-at-lkasbg.gv.at
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 16:39:00 +-100
Subject: AW: H & E staining of epon araldite sections - help needed

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Salzburg, 14th Nov.1997
Dear Joan,
I saw your posting and from the "Conc:" I know you are dealing with =
Epon-Araldite
sections (hydrophobic resin) to be stained with H&E (which stains well =
on=20
deparaffinized sections, but more/less no staining on hydrophobic resins =
is
achievable). I do not know for which purpose it should/must be H&E =
(maybe I could=20
offer you alternative staining methods),=20
but eventually 2 methods maybe will be successful:

1st one I didn=B4t test as yet (but if o.k., it would be a short and =
elegant way):
(I=B4m not sure about the reactions on the araldite component of your =
resin mixture)

prerequisite: resin sections should adhere very strongly to the slide: =
be sure that=20
sections are "glued" properly by heat (approx. 100-140 degr. C) by means =
of a hot
plate without folds.

Try: - Oxidize the sections (e.g. 1 -2% KMnO4 in A.bidest) for 2-5 min
- wash by jet-stream (A.bidest) thoroughly
the sections now will exhibit brownish to brown appearance (KMnO)
- Bleach by 0.5 to 1.0 % Oxalic acid (in a. bidest) for at least 3-5 =
min,
move/gentle agitate your slide at some time within this incub.time.
The sections have to be totally decolorized, maybe bleach a minute=20
or so more to be sure, no KMnO is within your section.
- Jet stream washing (or slide incubation in a coplin jar, change at =
least 2-3
times)
- you don=B4t have to let dry the sections
- try to stain with H&E. Maybe there is a staining effect (hopefully; =
maybe it depends on the polymerization quality of your sections, the =
thickness, the
concentration/time of oxidation (solution) etc.......).
IF NOT:
-you have to remove, at least in part, resin components of your =
sections:
- you have to use protocols like
saturated Na-or K-MetOH (Na-or K-methylate) or=20
saturated Na-or K-EtOH (Na- or K-ethylate)
(receipts of LANE and EUROPA, 1960ies or so.....100 years ago)
that means: oversaturated solution of absolute methanol or ethanol by=20
adding NaOH- or KOH pastilles more than the solution product is.
Let stand in a brown lab glass flask (plastic stopper!!) about 2-3 =
days.
The overlaying phase turns more and more to a brown color. Don=B4t =
swurl
up the solution when handling flask for removal of solute!
BE CAREFUL in PIPETTING the SOLUTE because IT IS STRONGLY =
CORROSIVE!!
Place one to two drops of the "Etching solution" (Na-/K-methylate =
or ethyl-
ate) unto the sections and let "work" for 1-3 min (you have to =
test; depends
on the section thickness, polymerization quality, bla, bla....)
After incubation (please be aware of the corrosive properties: =
shield eyes,
fingers, etc.) jet-wash with absolute MetOH or EtOH, respectively.
Do this washing vigorously/thoroughly/extended (since highly =
alkaline solu-
tions stick a long time on a glass surface or elsewhere!)
If your sections adhere until that step, you=B4ll be lucky!
Best then would be jet-washing (or even incubation into a coplin =
jar) by=20
say 70% or 50% MetOH or EtOH, then down into a. bidest. Let stand =
a
while and be sure about no alkaline etching solution has remained =
on your=20
section or slide.
Then try H&E. Maybe this will yield sufficient staining for the =
purpose you
intended.
Would greatly appreciate receiving a short note on the background =
of using
H&E on your EPON/ARALDITE sections.

Hope this helps
best regards

Dr. Wolfgang MUSS
Department of Pathology, LKA
EM-Laboratory
Muellner Hauptstrasse 48
A-5020 SALZBURG
AUSTRIA/Europe

phone: ++43++ 662 + 4482 + 4720 Ext
fax: ++43++ 662 + 4482 + 882 Ext.
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Does anyone have a method for the H and & E staining of resin sections. =
I
would appreciate any methods or references
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From: Randy Tindall :      rtindell-at-NMSU.Edu
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:16:13 -0700
Subject: SEM/EDS/Conductive epoxies

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Hi,

Many thanks for the helpful replies after my recent inquiry about
conductive epoxies for SEM specimen embedding. I am passing on the replies
for other listmembers who may have an interest in this.

From Mark Darus:

} I use "PolyFast" available from Struers. The description on
} the container states; Phenolic hot mounting resin with carbon filler
} for edge retention and examination in SEM.
} A code on the container is: FAPSA
} 40100036
} 6062-5754
} Look in a Struers catalog for more information, or call them for one
} at 1-888-Struers.
}


From Matthew Libera:

} I had a similar problem when I was a grad student. I used conductive
} epoxies from a company called Epotek in Billerica, Massachusetts. I
} never had great success getting the conductive epoxy to cure properly,
} however. Perhaps you will have more success.
}
}
}
From Phil Oshel:

} Various companies make silver-impregnated epoxy for making conductive
} joins--such as gluing a new target onto an (old) Hummer sputter-coater
} electrode. Don't know if this would work directly for embedding, but it
} suggests that you could buy silver painting for mounting specimens that's
} dissolved in acetone (EMS sells this, I think, others likely do also), and
} use it in the embedding resin.

From Winton Cornell:

} what about simply mixing graphite into the epoxy as it's prepared?
}
}
From Brian Demczyk:

} Yes, there most certainly are conductive epoxies (containing, for example,
} silver). Check any of the EM supply houses. You might also want to check
out a company called EPON-Tek, or something
} of the like.
}
}
From John Hunt:

}
} Sure. Buehler and probably Struers, LECO etc. make conductive
} material for mounts. The copper ones were removed from the market
} some years ago but Al filled and Carbon filled ones are still
} available, I believe. The powder is used in a hot hydraulic ram type
} mold. The specimen is placed with the side of interest face down. The
} mounts are usually inch or inch and a quarter diameter. The sample
} is then ready for polishing. Coating is not necessary unless the
} sampled is non-conductive in which case one might as well use epoxy.
}

From Eunsung Park:

} I usually use a Ag-dispersed epoxy (from SPI) to embed small specimens
} for both SEM and TEM work. Howver, it doesn't eliminate the necessity of
} conductive coating since the epoxy contains non-conducting polymers. Another
} problem is that the eopxy is not cheap (I fon't have the price list in
handy).
} It is surely worth to try, though. Good luck.
}

From Warren Straszheim:

} We used to use some copper-filled diallyl pthallate (sp?) to embed coal. It
} was a hot-preesed, thermosetting material from Beuhler or Leco. However,
} there was still a substantial fraction of the surface that was
} nonconductive. I don't recall if we could count on it providing a conducting
} path to ground. I think we C-coated most of our samples anyway.
}
} At that time I was looking at S in coal and had little trouble from the C
} coating.
}
}
From Michael Cinibulk:

}
} Epoxy Technology, Inc. manufactures a complete spectrum of epoxies
} including at least four that are electrically conductive; all contain
} silver. I have not used any of them myself. BTW, their EPO-TEK 353ND is
} the same as Gatan's G-1, which I do use.
}
} Call them at 800 227 2201 for a catalog.
}
}
From Scott Schwinge:

} Acme Conductive Adhesives (Division of Allied Products Corp. / New Haven,
} CT) used to sell a product called "E-Solder No. 3022," which is a
} conductive epoxy containing silver. It was intended as a substitute for
} solder in electronics repair when soldering isn't possible. I haven't
} used it for SEM. Hope this is helpful.
}

From Hermann Reese:

} Allied High Tech Products has a Conductive Mounting Powder (order #
} 169-10005) with carbon particles.
} Allied High Tech (800) 950-9347 or (310) 635-2466
}
} or
}
} Electron Microscopy Sciences has a Conductive Cold Mount (# 50452-01) with
} copper particles.
} EMS (800) 523-5874 or (215) 646-1566
}
}
} "I have no commercial or financial interest in the companies stated above,
} except within Mexico."
}
}
From Witold Zielinski:

} Well, this is maybe not exactly an unswer which one may excpect,
} but it may give an idea how to deal with the problem.
} We are using old electric discharge machine and it requires from
} time to time the samples to be glued. So to make, the glue or
} epoxy conaductive some carbone powder is add.
}
}

This is what I have received to date. Thanks to all and my apologies if I
missed anybody.


Randy Tindall
Electron Microscope Laboratory
Box 3EML
New Mexico State University
Las Cruces, NM 88003




From: Arthur Schuessler :      schueslr-at-sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 18:12:27 +0100
Subject: addition to "Image storage problems"

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Only one addition to complete:
the actual EIDE Bus ("DMA33")has a throughput of 33MB/sec and is thus
nearly as fast as UW-SCSI and also has many of the features before only
given by SCSI (less processor-power usage etc.)

Richard E. Edelmann wrote:
Things to keep in mind with these numbers (1) you'll
never see these speeds in reality - they are all determined in ideal
situations not real world usage, but they are comparable with each
other; (2) Actual transfer rates will vary depending on the
interface used (i.e. the max. throughputs for the interfaces are
EIDE (1-10MB/sec) vs SCSI (5-10MB/sec) vs SCSI-Wide (20MB/Sec) vs
SCSI-UltraWide (40MB/Sec) vs parallel ports ( {1 vs Fiber Coupling
(a.k.a. Fire Wire, 100+MB/Sec), (3) System configuration will also
effect this; i.e. what CPU, what BUS speed, how much memory (RAM)
what other components are in the system, what operating system, etc.
, (4)



Dr. Arthur Schuessler
University of Heidelberg
Zellenlehre
D-69120 Heidelberg
Germany




From: Arthur Schuessler :      schueslr-at-sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 18:18:08 +0100
Subject: immunofluorescence - UNICRYL-problems

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Dear Microscopists,

since we have a serious problem with immunofluorescence, I hope somebody
can help us.
We used 0.5 and 1 micron sections of Unicryl embedded plant tissues for
immunofluorescence. Sections were cut with an diamond knife / ultracut on
water.
We did labelings with second Antibodies (anti-rabbit) conjugated to FITC or
Cy3. Once we had nice pictures, but 10 times we had
--} } } } horrible spots ("stars") as background all over the regions the
incubation drop was located, and very weak labeling. Also there are
fluorescing droplets when using Cy3, I wonder if it is not ok. However, the
FITC conjugated also shows the "stars". It really looks very bad - all is
full of "dirt".

What could be the reason? In controls without first antibody the sections
are always clean. We use TBS with 0.1 or 1% Casein, polylysin coated or
uncoated coverslips, heat dried or not heated etc. With no first antibody
always no stars. Is the antigen floating around?

Thanks a lot if there are any ideas ...
Arthur
Dr. Arthur Schuessler
University of Heidelberg
Zellenlehre
D-69120 Heidelberg
Germany




From: Mukul KUMAR :      kumarm-at-kjhsgi.me.jhu.edu
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:09:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Dimplers

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We are trying to evaluate a number of dimpler grinders for both plan
view and cross-section TEM specimens and would like the opinion of
people who might have used the models put out by the following 2
companies: VCR Group (Model 500i) and EA Fischione (Model 2000).
These can be compared with the Gatan model (656) if the person has
experience with those as well.

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From: lewis coons :      LCOONS-at-msuvx2.memphis.edu
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:15:58 -0400
Subject: Positive charge

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I need a positive charge on formvar and or carbon coated copper grids. Any
suggestions or references would be appreciated.

Lewis Coons
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University of Memphis
Memphis TN
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From: lewis coons :      LCOONS-at-msuvx2.memphis.edu
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:15:58 -0400
Subject: Positive charge

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I need a positive charge on formvar and or carbon coated copper grids. Any
suggestions or references would be appreciated.

Lewis Coons
Ingetrated Microscopy Center
Life Sciences Bldg.
University of Memphis
Memphis TN
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From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 16:56:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Positive charge

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Dear Lewis,
}
} I need a positive charge on formvar and or carbon coated copper grids. Any
} suggestions or references would be appreciated.
}
Poly-l-lysine should do the job (unless you are going to apply a
*very* high pH specimen). Just put a few microliters of 0.1% aqueous
solution on the grid and air-dry. Good luck.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




From: ejb11-at-psu.edu (Edward J. Basgall)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:14:30 -0500
Subject: Conducting adhesives

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Greetings,
FWIW, I use either isopropyl based colloidal graphite or silver paint mixed
1:1 as a slurry with Duco household cement to affix samples to SEM stubs.
It's not epoxy but it dries quickly, provides good conductivity and is
easily scraped off to re-use stubs.

cheers
ed

Edward J. Basgall, PhD
The Pennsylvania State University
Surface Chemistry Group ejb11-at-psu.edu
Materials Research Institute Building Ph: 814-865-0493
University Park, PA 16802-7003 FAX: 814-863-0618
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Privilege does not absolve one of ecological responsibility.






From: David Bentley :      dlb-at-u.Arizona.EDU
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:42:49 -0700
Subject: Re: Hand Care

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I agree with Stephen Griffiths reply and would like to see this thread
kept open a little longer. Most of the biological types have acquired some
sort of allergy or dermatitis along the way if they have been in the field
for any period of time, and those who haven't need to be reminded that the
three most important assets a microscopist has is their brain, eyes, and
hands. Without all of these, you can no longer ply your trade. The
"chapped hand" syndrome is not trivial, the skin is a line of defense for
chemical and for pathogens, once broken, both are free to penetrate. I
would reinforce use of proper gloving as a way to avoid major problems in
the future for those whose hands haven't gone by the way. In addition, I
would like to remind that we are liable for what happens to our
subordinates and severe dermatitis can, in fact, be a handicap if it limits
range of motion.
Like most, Lowicryl started my dermatitis, although I noticed the effects
within months of first starting to use it. Little seems to help.
Superglue and Eucerin are my mainstays.
I would like to thank James Martin for asking the question as well as
those who responded. I have been looking over the pharmacy shelves,
picking up some of the suggested remedies to try.




From: Mary Mager :      mager-at-unixg.ubc.ca
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 21:35:56 -0800
Subject: Re: tagging substrates with metals,

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Dear James,
I have experience with penetration of glues, preservatives, etc. into wood,
and the best label was bromide. This shows up well in EDX, is completely
soluble and you can brominate most organic compounds quite well. We also
used it the trace the movement of epoxy resin in prepreg layup parts
(composite materials). Brominate the consolidant, then trace the presence of
bromine with an EDX linescan or careful P/B analysis of bromine. It works
equally well in TEM for individual wood cell wall layers (brominate the
lignin) or SEM for overall penetration depths.
You wrote:
} A student will be assessing the penetration of various adhesive
} consolidants into egg tempera based paint layers. The consolidants would
} likely include animal glue, cellulosic ethers, and acrylics.
}
} She has considered tagging the consolidant with one or more dyes to allow
} visual microscopic examination of depth penetration in samples cut in
} cross-section. Another means of assessing penetration would be micro-FTIR
} step-scan analysis of bulk cross-sections or thin-sections (1-5 microns).
}
} Here's a question for the TEM folk on the list. Can anyone think of a
} feasible way to dope the consolidants with a metal(s) to allow mapping of
} depth penetration by SEM-EDS, TEM, or another technique?
}
} I have only a limited knowledge of the use of metal-labelled antibodies to
} mark specific antigens using EM, and know this application I describe is
} quite different.
}
} Thanks for your assistance with this inquiry.
}
} James Martin
Regards,
Mary Mager
Electron Microscopist
Metals and Materials Engineering
University of British Columbia
6350 Stores Road
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4
CANADA
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From: Mary Mager :      mager-at-unixg.ubc.ca
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 21:35:54 -0800
Subject: Re: SEM/EDS/Conductive epoxies

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Dear Randy,
I have used the conductive cold-curing resin: "Technovit 5000" for several
years, but the last time I tried, my usual suppliers no longer carried it.
Electron Beam Sciences Inc. informed me that they have it available, when I
asked on the listserver. Several other suppliers of mounting media have
hot-press, conductive mounting media (Leco, etc.). For my usual
metallurgical mounts, I mount in normal epoxy, poloish, then paint all of
the top epoxy surface with carbon paint, overlapping the metal slightly.
Then run a stripe down the side to the stub to connect. I use the carbon
evaporative coating if I want to look at the very edge of the sample or if
the sample is not conductive, and only use the conductive resin if the
sample cannot be coated and the edge is important.
You wrote:
}
} Hi,
}
} Yet another question from the unpredictable world of multi-user facilities.
} One of our users embeds samples in epoxy and polishes them to eliminate
} topographical variables. He requires both imaging and EDS, which precludes
} metal coating for conductivity.
}
} He was wondering about the availability of epoxies containing conductive
} components, which might allow us to use high-vacuum SEM with secondary
} electron imaging. Does such a thing exist? Has anyone ever used a
} standard epoxy and added their own conductive "secret recipes" before
} polymerizing?
}
} I'm aware that carbon coating is an option, as well as painting conductive
} stripes of colloidal carbon or silver to the edge of the embedded materials
} and down to the aluminum stub. The idea of a conductive epoxy is
} intriguing, though, for the time and mess-saving possibilities.
}
} As usual, thanks in advance for the always helpful replies I get to these
} queries.
}
}
} Randy Tindall
} Electron Microscope Laboratory
} Box 3EML
} New Mexico State University
} Las Cruces, NM 88003
}
Regards,

Mary Mager
Electron Microscopist
Metals and Materials Engineering
University of British Columbia
6350 Stores Road
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4
CANADA
tel: 604-822-5648
fax: 604-822-3619
e-mail: mager-at-interchg.ubc.ca





From: Paul Thomson :      tsi-at-werple.mira.net.au
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 18:26:01 +1100
Subject: Our Website

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Dear Listserver Readers,
I note with interest that a competitor (Evex Analytical) has registered
the following URL: http://www.thomson-scientific.com/ for their own use.

As a director of Thomson Scientific Instruments Pty Ltd I wish to state
quite categorically that this company is in no way associated with us. Our
website is in fact located at: http://www.werple.net.au/~tsi/

I shall leave it up to readers to make their own judgment regarding the
ethics of Evex Analyticals action.



Thank you,


Paul Thomson
Technical Director
Thomson Scientific Instruments
http://werple.net.au/~tsi/






From: LSFY69A-at-PRODIGY.COM (MR KARL H BERGER)
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 05:40:46, -0500
Subject: Zeiss EM902

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We have a Zeiss 902 filter scope for sale. 6 years old. In excellent
condition. Asking 28K.
Will also deliver to your location. Presently on West coast. Call 732-
370-8082 for info.




From: Gregory.Argentieri-at-sandoz.com
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:16:02 -0600
Subject: Sorensens Buffer:

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Question/debate of the day:

What is the actual formula Sorensen used to make Sorensen's phosphate
buffer? Not what you think it is, but What Dr. Sorensen stated in his
paper in 1909, and what many of us have or thought we have been
referencing for the past 88 years.

Some references say (Hayat) to use sodium phosphate and Potassium
phosphate

Most other references state Sorensens Phosphate buffer has being made
with sodium monobasic and sodium dibasic salts.


If anyone has the original reference to sorensens (biochem, 22, 253,
1909) on hand, I would be most appreciative if they would be kind
enough to email or fax it to me.

Thanks in advance
Gregory Argentieri
Novartis Pharmaceuticals Corp
59 Rt 10 East Hanover, NJ 07936

Phone: 973-503-8617
Fax 973-503-6339
Email Gregory.Argentieri-at-pharma.novartis.com






From: DrFlea-at-aol.com
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 13:28:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: cathodoluminescence

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Does anyone know of any references describing the current state-of-the-art of
cathodoluminescence?

Please respond to barletta-at-mte.ncsu.edu

Thank you in advance.




From: Bart Cannon :      cannonmp-at-accessone.com
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 00:23:51 -0800
Subject: Conductive Epoxy

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Master Bond EP 75 is a graphite filled room temp setting, two part epoxy
which is electrically conductive. It is rated at 50 ohm/cm, but I
measure about 10k ohms/cm.

Metal particles cast and polished in this material show no charging when
imaged at fast or slow rates in BSE or SE mode in my SEMQ. Nice to see
the original colors of a material through the light optics. X-ray count
rates seem OK.

It may be suitable for high vacuum since it contains no solvents. I
can't volatilize a hole in the stuff even with a 100 nA focused beam.

Adhesion is excellent. In fact, it sticks to silastic mold perimeters.

Mixing is a little fussy. 3 parts to 100. A perfect mix might get the
50 ohm/cm value. Shelf life is supposed to be less than a year and it's
expensive.

The grain size of the carbon filler is relatively coarse. Colloidal
graphite might work better.

Master Bond is located in Hackensack, NJ. Phone 201 343 8983.

Bart Cannon
Cannon Microprobe
Seattle




From: Gregory.Argentieri-at-sandoz.com
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:16:02 -0600
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Question/debate of the day:

What is the actual formula Sorensen used to make Sorensen's phosphate
buffer? Not what you think it is, but What Dr. Sorensen stated in his
paper in 1909, and what many of us have or thought we have been
referencing for the past 88 years.

Some references say (Hayat) to use sodium phosphate and Potassium
phosphate

Most other references state Sorensens Phosphate buffer has being made
with sodium monobasic and sodium dibasic salts.


If anyone has the original reference to sorensens (biochem, 22, 253,
1909) on hand, I would be most appreciative if they would be kind
enough to email or fax it to me.

Thanks in advance
Gregory Argentieri
Novartis Pharmaceuticals Corp
59 Rt 10 East Hanover, NJ 07936

Phone: 973-503-8617
Fax 973-503-6339
Email Gregory.Argentieri-at-pharma.novartis.com







From: DrFlea-at-aol.com
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 13:28:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: cathodoluminescence

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Does anyone know of any references describing the current state-of-the-art of
cathodoluminescence?

Please respond to barletta-at-mte.ncsu.edu

Thank you in advance.





From: Bart Cannon :      cannonmp-at-accessone.com
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 00:23:51 -0800
Subject: Conductive Epoxy

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Master Bond EP 75 is a graphite filled room temp setting, two part epoxy
which is electrically conductive. It is rated at 50 ohm/cm, but I
measure about 10k ohms/cm.

Metal particles cast and polished in this material show no charging when
imaged at fast or slow rates in BSE or SE mode in my SEMQ. Nice to see
the original colors of a material through the light optics. X-ray count
rates seem OK.

It may be suitable for high vacuum since it contains no solvents. I
can't volatilize a hole in the stuff even with a 100 nA focused beam.

Adhesion is excellent. In fact, it sticks to silastic mold perimeters.

Mixing is a little fussy. 3 parts to 100. A perfect mix might get the
50 ohm/cm value. Shelf life is supposed to be less than a year and it's
expensive.

The grain size of the carbon filler is relatively coarse. Colloidal
graphite might work better.

Master Bond is located in Hackensack, NJ. Phone 201 343 8983.

Bart Cannon
Cannon Microprobe
Seattle





From: DrFlea-at-aol.com
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 13:28:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: cathodoluminescence

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Does anyone know of any references describing the current state-of-the-art of
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Please respond to barletta-at-mte.ncsu.edu

Thank you in advance.






From: Gregory.Argentieri-at-sandoz.com
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:16:02 -0600
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Question/debate of the day:

What is the actual formula Sorensen used to make Sorensen's phosphate
buffer? Not what you think it is, but What Dr. Sorensen stated in his
paper in 1909, and what many of us have or thought we have been
referencing for the past 88 years.

Some references say (Hayat) to use sodium phosphate and Potassium
phosphate

Most other references state Sorensens Phosphate buffer has being made
with sodium monobasic and sodium dibasic salts.


If anyone has the original reference to sorensens (biochem, 22, 253,
1909) on hand, I would be most appreciative if they would be kind
enough to email or fax it to me.

Thanks in advance
Gregory Argentieri
Novartis Pharmaceuticals Corp
59 Rt 10 East Hanover, NJ 07936

Phone: 973-503-8617
Fax 973-503-6339
Email Gregory.Argentieri-at-pharma.novartis.com








From: Bart Cannon :      cannonmp-at-accessone.com
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 00:23:51 -0800
Subject: Conductive Epoxy

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Master Bond EP 75 is a graphite filled room temp setting, two part epoxy
which is electrically conductive. It is rated at 50 ohm/cm, but I
measure about 10k ohms/cm.

Metal particles cast and polished in this material show no charging when
imaged at fast or slow rates in BSE or SE mode in my SEMQ. Nice to see
the original colors of a material through the light optics. X-ray count
rates seem OK.

It may be suitable for high vacuum since it contains no solvents. I
can't volatilize a hole in the stuff even with a 100 nA focused beam.

Adhesion is excellent. In fact, it sticks to silastic mold perimeters.

Mixing is a little fussy. 3 parts to 100. A perfect mix might get the
50 ohm/cm value. Shelf life is supposed to be less than a year and it's
expensive.

The grain size of the carbon filler is relatively coarse. Colloidal
graphite might work better.

Master Bond is located in Hackensack, NJ. Phone 201 343 8983.

Bart Cannon
Cannon Microprobe
Seattle






From: Nestor J. Zaluzec :      zaluzec-at-Sparc5.Microscopy.Com
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 10:41:19 -0600
Subject: Bouncing Email... I'm working on it

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G'day All

Yes I see the bouncing message. It is all coming from one host
and I am attempting to contact the system adminstrator there
a bit hard on a Sunday Morning.

I have temporairly disabled all mail to subscribers at that site
and I hope that that will mitigate the problem in the short term.

Nestor
Your Friendly Neighborhood SysOp






From: mektech-at-visionol.net (Mektech Inc.)
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 12:20:54 -0500
Subject: Fraudulent Website

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Dear readers,

After reading Paul Thomson's posting we have discovered that Evex Analytical
is also using domain name www.mektech.com. Needless to say that Mektech
Inc. was NOT, is NOT, nor will it ever be associated in
any way with Evex Analytical. Mektech's true website is located at
http://www.visionol.net/~mektech.

It is very regrettable that deception has been chosen as a tactic by an
unscrupulous company claiming
to serve the scientific community.


Mektech Inc.
http://www.visionol.net/~mektech

--------------------------------
Paul Thomson wrote:

} Dear Listserver Readers,
} I note with interest that a competitor (Evex Analytical) has registered
} the following URL: http://www.thomson-scientific.com/ for their own use.

} As a director of Thomson Scientific Instruments Pty Ltd I wish to state
} quite categorically that this company is in no way associated with us. Our
} website is in fact located at: http://www.werple.net.au/~tsi/

} I shall leave it up to readers to make their own judgment regarding the
} ethics of Evex Analyticals action.






From: Paul Thomson
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 13:45:59 -0500
Subject: Our Website

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Thomson Scientific is a wholly owned Research & Development subsidiary of Evex Analytical Inc.,



----------

Dear Listserver Readers,
I note with interest that a competitor (Evex Analytical) has registered
the following URL: http://www.thomson-scientific.com/ for their own use.

As a director of Thomson Scientific Instruments Pty Ltd I wish to state
quite categorically that this company is in no way associated with us. Our
website is in fact located at: http://www.werple.net.au/~tsi/

I shall leave it up to readers to make their own judgment regarding the
ethics of Evex Analyticals action.



Thank you,


Paul Thomson
Technical Director
Thomson Scientific Instruments
http://werple.net.au/~tsi/








From: Melvyn Dickson :      M.Dickson-at-unsw.edu.au
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 07:45:56 +1100
Subject: Re: Positive charge on Formvar

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At 14:15 14/11/97 -0400, you wrote:
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"The mounting of Macromolecules for Electron Microscopy with particular
reference to surface phenomena and the treatment of support films by glow
discharge"

Jacques DuBochet, Michael Groom, & Shirley Mueller-Neuteboom. 1982

in

Advances in Optical and Electron Microscopy Vol. 8

Barer & Cosslet eds.
Academic Press


Mel Dickson
President, Australian Society for Electron Microscopy
Director, Electron Microscope Unit,
University of New South Wales.
Sydney NSW 2052 Australia

Phone (+612) 9385-6383
Fax (+612) 9385-6400

Website {http://emunit1.babs.unsw.edu.au/emu_top.htm}




From: William R Oliver :      oliver-at-cpt.afip.mil
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 13:15:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Fraudulent Website

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You know, there *is* some sort of legal redress for this. I'm not sure
what it is, since I really didn't care about my own name (Yes, believe
it or not, some guy in British Columbia bought up all the names of
people who posted to a newsgroup I frequent. The domain "oliver.net"
is owned, along with about 500 others, by a firm in Vancouver which
markets email forwarding, I think).


If you are interested in looking further to see if others have your
name, look at the internic site:

http://rs.internic.net/rs-internic.html and use the WhoIs function.


Here are some good sites re legal issues:

http://www.pitt.edu/~lawrev/58-4/articles/domain.htm (from the Pittsburgh Law Review)
http://www.mindspring.com/~iprop/webdoc1.htm (a review of the NSI conflict resolution
policy)
http://rs.internic.net/domain-info/internic-domain-6.txt (the NSI document)



The Law Review Article is great. Here's an excerpt for the section on
"squatters."

1. Squatters - Dilution to the "Rescue"

All the written decisions involving squatters involve one individual, Dennis Toeppen,
who registered numerous trademarks of others as domain names, including "americanstandard.com,"
"panavision.com," "aircanada.com," and "yankeestadium.com."(367) In Panavision, the defendant
registered plaintiff's trademark "Panavision" as a domain name, and used his WWW site to display
an "aerial view[] of Pana, Illinois."(368) Toeppen demanded $13,000 to discontinue use of the
domain name.(369)

The court found that Toeppen had violated state and federal anti-dilution statutes and ordered
a preliminary injunction.(370) The marks, having been used since 1954, were in the eyes of the
general public and producers, directors and movie studios, "famous" marks within the meaning of
the act.(371) Toeppen's use of the domain name lessened the capacity of the mark to " 'identify
and distinguish goods or services' " under the Dilution Act, and further diluted the mark by preventing
Panavision from using its trademark verbatim as a domain name.(372)

...

and "parasites"


2. Parasites

a. Use of the Same Name Between Competitors - Infringement

Parasites who obtain a domain name corresponding to the trademark of a competitor will rightly be found
liable for infringement.(390) In Comp Examiner Agency, Inc. v. Juris, Inc.,(391) the Central District of
California granted a preliminary injunction against a defendant who used plaintiff's federally registered
trademark as a domain name to "sell, distribute, advertise, and/or market its goods and services to Juris'
target market of lawyers and law firms."(392) Although the court provided no explanation, its finding of
trademark infringement under sections 32(1) and 43(a) of the Lanham Act is reasonable: the use of A's
registered trademark by B to market the same products as A, to A's target market, is the paradigm of
infringement and "passing off." The court enjoined the defendant from using "Juris" or any confusing
variant; nonetheless, defendant was granted three months to continue using the domain name and web
site to post a text-only referral notice to defendant's new site.(393)








On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, Mektech Inc. wrote:

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}
}
} Dear readers,
}
} After reading Paul Thomson's posting we have discovered that Evex Analytical
} is also using domain name www.mektech.com. Needless to say that Mektech
} Inc. was NOT, is NOT, nor will it ever be associated in
} any way with Evex Analytical. Mektech's true website is located at
} http://www.visionol.net/~mektech.
}
} It is very regrettable that deception has been chosen as a tactic by an
} unscrupulous company claiming
} to serve the scientific community.
}
}
} Mektech Inc.
} http://www.visionol.net/~mektech
}
} --------------------------------
} Paul Thomson wrote:
}
} } Dear Listserver Readers,
} } I note with interest that a competitor (Evex Analytical) has registered
} } the following URL: http://www.thomson-scientific.com/ for their own use.
}
} } As a director of Thomson Scientific Instruments Pty Ltd I wish to state
} } quite categorically that this company is in no way associated with us. Our
} } website is in fact located at: http://www.werple.net.au/~tsi/
}
} } I shall leave it up to readers to make their own judgment regarding the
} } ethics of Evex Analyticals action.
}
}





From: William R Oliver :      oliver-at-cpt.afip.mil
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 13:43:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: RE: Our Evex Websites

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On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, Evex Analytical wrote:

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} Thomson Scientific is a wholly owned Research & Development subsidiary of Evex Analytical Inc.,
}


Interesting. No doubt Mektech is one also. How many of your "wholly-owned subsidiaries"
"just happen" to be the names of competitors?


Just curious, of course. I'm sure your ethical stance is spotless.


billo





From: William R Oliver :      oliver-at-cpt.afip.mil
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 14:07:22 -0500 (EST)
Subject: RE: Our Evex Websites

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Well, I really don't usually follow up on *myself*, but I went ahead and
did a WhoIs on EVEX. It turns out that EVEX, happens to have registered
the following names:

EVEXTG.COM
TNSERVICE.COM
MEKTECH.COM
IXRF.COM
EDAX-EDS.COM
NORAN-EDS.COM
THOMSON-SCIENTIFIC.COM
EVEX.COM


billo





From: Jerome Jasso :      jjasso-at-akron.infi.net
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:55:39 -0600
Subject: TEM Rates

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I would be interested in the going rates for typical TEM charges , from
reception of the specimen to the generation of prints, irregardless of
interpretation. Has anyone accurate costing information on this?

Best regards,
Jerome Jasso
Children's Hospital Medical Center of Akron
(330) 379-8279






From: Buskes, Harry HA :      Buskes.Harry.HA-at-bhp.com.au
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:44:23 +1100
Subject: TEM Rates

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From: hiltrud-at-ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Hiltrud Mueller-Sigmund)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:01:55 +0200
Subject: Re: thin sectin boxes

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I wish to thank those three people who answered my request which I repeat
below. All three pointed me to suppliers in the U.S. (which is a bit
expensive due to postage) or to standard EM-suppliers but there I have only
found boxes for biological standard size thin sections (the 76 mm long
ones). I am really surprised that this German Company should have been the
only one to provide boxes for 28x48 mm size. Or are there so few Europeans
on the list??

}
} Hello everybody,
} a question to the mineralogists on the list:
} as the German provider (Krantz) for storage boxes for mineralogical
} standard thin sections cannot provide them any longer I am looking for some
} other source, preferably in Europe.
} What I call "standard thin sections" are 28 x 48 mm sized.
} Thank you in advance
} Hiltrud
}
} Dr. Hiltrud Mueller-Sigmund
} Institut fuer Mineralogie, Petrologie und Geochemie
} Albertstrasse 23b, 79104 Freiburg (Germany)
} Tel.: (+49)-203-6388/-6396 Fax: -6407
}
}
} hiltrud-at-ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Hiltrud Mueller-Sigmund)

Dr. Hiltrud Mueller-Sigmund
Institut fuer Mineralogie, Petrologie und Geochemie
Albertstrasse 23b, 79104 Freiburg (Germany)
Tel.: (+49)-203-6388/-6396 Fax: -6407






From: hiltrud-at-ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Hiltrud Mueller-Sigmund)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:01:55 +0200
Subject: Re: thin sectin boxes

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I wish to thank those three people who answered my request which I repeat
below. All three pointed me to suppliers in the U.S. (which is a bit
expensive due to postage) or to standard EM-suppliers but there I have only
found boxes for biological standard size thin sections (the 76 mm long
ones). I am really surprised that this German Company should have been the
only one to provide boxes for 28x48 mm size. Or are there so few Europeans
on the list??

}
} Hello everybody,
} a question to the mineralogists on the list:
} as the German provider (Krantz) for storage boxes for mineralogical
} standard thin sections cannot provide them any longer I am looking for some
} other source, preferably in Europe.
} What I call "standard thin sections" are 28 x 48 mm sized.
} Thank you in advance
} Hiltrud
}
} Dr. Hiltrud Mueller-Sigmund
} Institut fuer Mineralogie, Petrologie und Geochemie
} Albertstrasse 23b, 79104 Freiburg (Germany)
} Tel.: (+49)-203-6388/-6396 Fax: -6407
}
}
} hiltrud-at-ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Hiltrud Mueller-Sigmund)

Dr. Hiltrud Mueller-Sigmund
Institut fuer Mineralogie, Petrologie und Geochemie
Albertstrasse 23b, 79104 Freiburg (Germany)
Tel.: (+49)-203-6388/-6396 Fax: -6407






From: hefeh-at-Rcs1.urz.tu-dresden.de
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:57:23 +0100
Subject: ImmunoLM - CD4/CD8-antibodies

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Hello everybody !

We are looking for antibodies against CD4 and CD8 that can be used with
formalin fixed, paraffin embedded rat tissues - with or without application
of antigen retrieval procedures.
Has anybody some helpful experience ?

Thanks alot.

Heinz

****************************************************************************
Dr. Heinz Fehrenbach
Institute of Pathology
University Clinics "Carl Gustav Carus"
Technical University of Dresden

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From: lapena :      lapena-at-crmc2.univ-mrs.fr (by way of Nestor J. Zaluzec)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 07:31:59 -0600
Subject: maximum tilt angle available onto the JEOL JEM 2010 FEG UHR?

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What is the maximum tilt angle available onto the JEOL JEM 2010 FEG UHR
(Ultra High Resolution)? The technical specs in the brochure give us +/-
25=B0? Is there any special TEM sample holder use to reach this values?

Salutations.


Laurent Lapena tel (33) 04 91 17 28 69
fax (33) 04 91 41 89 16

C.R.M.C.2 - C.N.R.S.
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From: Evex Analaytical :      mail-at-evex.com
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:25:15 -0500
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It is not Evex Analytical's intention to deceive anyone.



Promotion of Evex Analytical Inc., is promoted only at

www.evex.com



Evex Analytical does own many other websites but promotes its products at

www.evex.com



http://www.evex.com/971117.htm






From: Ann-Fook Yang (Ann-Fook Yang) :      YANGA-at-em.agr.ca
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:24:33 -0500
Subject: SEM adhesive

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Hi, everyone:

I am planning to do immunogold on brassica pollen grains. I
am looking for an adhesive that remain tacky when dried and
would hold pollen through out the process of washing,
fixing, immuno-treatment, postfixing, dehydrating and critical
point drying.

Any suggestions will be appreciated.
Thanks.



Ann Fook Yang
EM Unit,
ECORC
Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada,
Central Experimental Farm,
Ottawa, Ontario,
Canada K1A 0C6

Tel: 1-613-759-1638
Fax: 1-613-759-1701
e-mail: yanga-at-em.agr.ca




From: kennedy-at-nsi.edu (Grace Kennedy)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 08:40:34 -0800
Subject: polymerization time

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I'm trying to adapt a resin recipe for use in a processor. Right now, I'm
adding 3%BDMA which gives a nice block but polymerizes too quickly. Will
decreasing this to 2% slow this down a bit? Yes, I could spend the next 3
days experimenting but I'd like to get some material processed by the end
of the week. Many thanks Grace






From: Ricky L Vaughn :      RLVAUGHN-at-MAIL.UNMC.EDU
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:05:54 -0600
Subject: RE cost analysis

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Hello everyone

I would like to see some more conversation on this cost analysis thread.

I am in the middle of trying to justify hiring another tech to help me get out
of this back log of work I'm into. The powers to be want me to determine
how much time I spend working on each project and investigator. I am
spending an exorberant amount of time doing this as I typically do
multitasking of different steps on different samples for different
investigators essentially at the same time. This they say will tell them
what is taking up my time and what another tech would need to be hired
for (I already know this info) . Even if I generate the numbers for them
they have nothing to compare my workload with to say yes you have
more samples coming in than you can take care of. As we know EM is
very time consuming. I would like to see what volume of work other
department run (but service for entire campus) facilities are producing vs
the number of techs producing that work. And because some places
may have advanced equipment, it should be limited to producing standard
blocks and negative staining techniques. Would any facilities like to help
me out on this?

My technique for the cost analysis was to break up the service costs into
major steps: processing and embedding, survey sections, thin sections,
and scope time. Each step was divided into cost of: materials, and labor,
per sample or block where I timed my self performing each step on
average. There was also a category for specialized techniques and
training of students or others.

Maybe this type of material could be a tutorial or subject at a future MSA
meeting ? I was unable to go to the last one that had a round table on
facility management (Cincinnati ?). Was this information discussed ?

People looking for costs on equipment should look up the Technologist
Forum's Facilities and Equipment list that is available.
Thanks for any advice out there.

Rick Vaughn

Electron Microscopy Research Facility
Dept Cell Biology & Anatomy
Univ Neb Med Ctr
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From: METENGR-at-aol.com
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:56:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Zero-Stat

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Hello all---

Does anyone still sell the Zero-Stat gun? If anyone has any information on
where I can purchase one or if it's still on the market please let me know.
Thank you for your help.

Laura L. Estok
M.E. Taylor Engineering, Inc.
21604 Gentry Lane
Brookeville, MD 20833
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From: Warren Straszheim :      wesaia-at-iastate.edu
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:20:50 -0600
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That still doesn't answer the question as to why the other web sites take me
directly to the EVEX page. It may not be an intentional deception since I am
aware that you service other manufacturers' equipment. But it sure pushes
the envelope of what is proper.

At 10:25 AM 11/17/97 -0500, you wrote:
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From: Crossman, Harold :      crossman-at-OSI.SYLVANIA.com
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:36:15 -0500
Subject: RE: RE cost analysis

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Rick,

This looks like a job for activity based costing (ABC) analysis. I
suggest that you see if any of your school's accounting students (or
professors) need a project. ABC accounting can be fairly complicated
for a large organization, but your situation seems manageable enough for
a small project team. A broad outline is as follows: list the
activities each person does (including non-value-added time such as
waiting for results!) with the percentage of time spent on each
activity, then divide each person's fully loaded salary by the time
spent on each activity (everything should total 100%), then add the
costs for each activity. At this point you will have a pretty good
estimate of what it costs for each activity. Then map (flowchart) the
process including all decision points to show where the money goes and
why. From this point, standard TQM tools (storyboarding, Pareto
analysis, etc.) can be used to improve the process. It's a lot of work,
but if you need to argue a case for more money, the powers that be need
something they can see, with dollar signs attached. As far as backlog
cost calculations, try to find out from the customer what is not being
done (i.e. projects not completed, papers not completed, etc.) and their
best estimate on how much their time is worth.

I think if you approach the powers that be on the premise that the
objective is not to increase costs by hiring a tech, but rather to
improve customer service by allowing the process improvements pay for
the tech, then you will have a better chance of getting support. If
somebody in a position of power can gather support for the
cross-functional effort involved in such a project, then their
reputation will be enhanced as well. You could conceivably get the tech
you know you need, make your leaders look good, get free/low-cost
accounting help (without you doing all the work), employ a deserving
technician, help an accounting student get valuable process improvement
experience, reduce your backlog, and improve your service to customers.
Win/win all around.

my two cent.


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From: paulc-at-gps.caltech.edu (Paul K. Carpenter)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:43:37 -0800
Subject: Re: Fraudulent Website

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Concerning Evex' use of other web site names:

When I attempted to reach the IXRF website several months ago, I found
myself staring in disbelief at the Evex web page. Thinking I must be
totally stupid, I retyped the web address "www.ixrf.com" into Netscape, and
there it was again, the Evex web page. At first it reflected badly on the
IXRF name, to me.

This was confirmed by Kenny Witherspoon at IXRF, who lamented that they
essentially lost their site name to Evex, because one can officially
license a site name now, and IXRF had not done so. It is my understanding
that Evex scarfed "www.ixrf.com" that was already in use. (To reach IXRF'
web page you have to use www.ixrfsystems.com, by the way)

Does Evex claim to represent IXRF, sell IXRF products, etc. What is the story?

Just what does "Evex" mean anyway? As in (K)evex?

Anyways, customers find deceptive strategies similar to this to be a real
turn-off, and when they are purchasing equipment, they wonder how this
reflects on issues related to service, repair, etc. It is poor business
practice and doesn't fool anybody in the end.

My own personal opinion this time around.

Paul Carpenter







From: Yury Shipilov :      yury-at-yury.ame.arizona.edu
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:22:34 -0700
Subject: (no subject)

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Dear Microscopists,

Does anybody have a used sputter coater for sale?
I would be eternally grateful to any offer.
Thanks,
Yury Shipilov.




From: Wolfgang Muss :      W.Muss-at-lkasbg.gv.at
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:48:35 +-100
Subject: AW: Sorensens Buffer (long mail):

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Salzburg, 17th Nov. 1997

Dear Gregory,
are you quite sure about your question which seems to be really a =
centennial
question ???
I made my lession now and the passed 2 hours in studying a lot of =
("old") literature
(originals starting in the late 50ies) as well as textbooks of =
histology, EM etc.,=20
etc....This problem amazed me since I had a personal question about this =
when
starting my "carrier" as Electron Microscopist in 1981: you are right in =
that there are
variable formulas in mixing up "Soerensen=B4s" Buffer solution: sodium =
and potassium
phosphate (basic, acid) as well as sodium (acid) and sodium (basic) on =
the other hand (as well, might be, other substances).

Unfortunately I don=B4t have at hand Soerensen=B4s original paper. If =
this is a *must* for
you, I could try to get the original publications, since they are =
written in "German"
journals of the turn of the 19th to 20th century and therefore my be =
available more
likely in Austrian or German libraries (please let me know).

Follows now a Sherlock Holmes story (maybe only a story by his =
assistent, whose name unfortunately I don=B4t remember now):


I didn=B4t read, but had a short "insight" to appr. 10 textbooks of =
histology, histo-
chemistry, etc., incl. PEARSE A.G.E.(Ed) Histochemistry Theoretical and =
Applied,
Vol. 1: Preparative and Optical Technology, CHURCHILL-LIVINGSTONE, 4th =
Ed,=20
1980 (see p. 236: BUFFERS: pH 5.29 to 8.04: Soerensen (1909-12): Na2HPO4 =

0.06M and KH2PO4 0.06M-mixture) since other book and paper sources =
quoted
PEARSE (1953) as reference. Unfortunately PEARSE did NOT include a =
bibliographic reference for that formula, but, in fact, he mentioned =
"1909-12"; o.k.
next step:
Another paper cited: "Soerensen=B4s phosphate buffer, adapted from =
LILLIE and=20
FULLMER ( Histopathologic Technic and Practical Histochemistry, 4th Ed., =

McGRAW-HILL Book Company, 1976)":
there I found in Chapter 20: "Buffers and Buffer Tables", p. 878 the =
following:
} } Table 20-12: Soerensen=B4s phosphate"s" *(ref. for foot note): "the =
mixtures on this
page were made by P. Jones, and read electrometrically on a Beckman =
pH-meter.=20
Readings are corrected to 25 degr. C and slightly smoothed. Phosphate =
buffer*s*=20
above 8 and below 5.3 are considered unreliable for histologic use, and =
readings are
omitted. { {
The given formulas in the table are:

Left side: "Dry salt mixtures for field use* (ref. to footnote:): =
follows amounts in=20
milligrams of Na2HPO4 + *NaH2PO4.H2O* as well as Na2HPO4 + *KH2PO4*=20
(different milligrams for different pH-values ranging from 5.3 to 8.0). =
The footnote pays
attention to "The dry salt mixtures calculated from Soerensen=B4s 0.067 =
M data. They=20
are to be dissolved in rain water at 1% concentration, ca. 0.070M; if =
higher dilutions
are used, pH values may be approximated by the following table":

follows grams and milligrams per liter for 0.1 M, 0.067 M and 5 mM, =
respectively.

Right side of Table 20-12:
} } *Phosphates* at 0.1M, 0.067 M and 5 mM { {
The table consists of 5 rows of data:
first row (1): second row (2): pH values at specified dilutions (row =
3-5):

(1)KH2PO4 *OR* (2)Na2HPO4 (ml) (3) 0.1M (4) 0.067M =
(5) 5mM
(1)NaH2PO4.H2O
(ml)

In that Chapter 20 a lot of Buffer Formula=B4s one can find. Some =
formulas are
referenced solitary like: "Gomori(Goemori):personal communication, =
....unpublished"
etc. As Main References there are given:
W. M. CLARK (Ed): "The determination of Hydrogen Ions", 3rd Ed., =
Williams=20
& Wilkins, Baltimore, 1928, and A.G.E.PEARSE (Ed):Histochemistry, 2nd =
ed., Little
Brown, Boston, 1960.
Unfortunately: NO direct reference to an ORIGINAL PAPER of Soerensen.

Therefore: another book:

PERRIN D.D., DEMPSEY B. (Eds): Buffers for pH and Metal Ion Control: =
SCIENCE=20
PAPERBACKS # 157 (Chapman & Hall, London, N.Y.), 1974 (1st ed., maybe =
there=20
is a newer one now) approx. 180 pp, incl. subject index.
Searching the subject index:
for } } Soerensen { {: only "Soerensen p*s*H scale" (p. 26) is mentioned:
mentioned there (after a statement what the usual standards for =
pH-measurement
are: (0.05M) K-hydrogen phalate- and (0.01M) Na-borate-buffers and what =
"strictly=20
the standards of the US NBS are based on (molalities/moles per kg =
solvent) and the=20
British standards are based on (molarity/moles per litre of solution)" =
and some=20
information on the concentration vs. buffer capacity there follows a =
next paragraph
} } Buffer values on "the original Soerensen "p*s*H" scale" can be =
converted=20
approximately to the agreed standard scale *by adding 0.04* { {

No word more about *Soerensen* or *Soerensen psH-scale": I checked the =
text of the whole book on another quoting of a hint on Soerensen: =
nothing.

Next: searching for } } phosphate buffers" { {:=20
references to p. 27: "The pH 7.4 phosphate buffer given in Table 3.3 =
(p.41) is useful=20
as a reference in measuring the pH of blood..."...... nothing about=20

*Soerensen*....because Table 3.3. p 41 is entitled: NBS phosphate =
buffers as pH=20
standards* (*footnote: BATES 1962): it consists of given mixtures "Soln. =
I" and "Soln
II", whereby "Soln I" is given as } } 0.025 M KH2PO4 (3.388g) and 0.025M =
Na2HPO4
(3.533g) in 1 l of solution at 25 degr.C { { and "Soln II" is given as } } =
0.00869M=20
KH2PO4 (1.179g) and 0.0304 M Na2HPO4 (4.302 g), in 1 l of solution at 25 =

degr.C { {. These solutions at different degrees C make different ranging =
pH-values =20
for 0-95 degr. C for Soln I, and 0- 50 degr. C for Soln II, resp.=20
Nothing more about *Soerensen*.

Without notice in the subject index: Table 3.15 (p.53, but indexed by =
"phosphate=20
buffers"):
} } pH values of isotonic Soerensen*(footnote) buffers+(footnote) { {: =20

The formula uses "Na2HPO4 and NaH2PO4.H2O or NaH2PO4.2H2O, respectively,
the final mixture also containing NaCl (mg/100 ml) to adjust the =
tonicity to 0.92 at 37 degr.C". pH values are given for 25 degr.C as =
well as for 37 degr.C and differ at same=20
pH levels/mixtures in the range 0.01 - 0.02 (e.g. pH -at- 25 degr.C =3D =
5.76, -at- 37 degr.
C =3D 5.74; -at- 80 degr.C. 7.33, -at- 37 degr. C 7.32)
footnote *: refers to SOERENSEN (1909), footnote "+": mentions CUTIE &=20
SCIARRONE (1969): No hint on "KH2PO4 and/or Na2HPO4......."

Next step: searching the "references index" for "Soerensen": uncredible, =
there it is:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=
!!!!!!!!!!!

Soerensen (1909): no title, "Biochem. Zeits." (which means "Biochemische =

Zeitschrift"), *21*, p. 131 & !!!!!!!!!!!BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!

there is another reference too:

Soerensen (1912), no title, "Ergebn.Physiol." (which means "Ergebnisse =
[in] der=20
Physiologie"),*12*, p. 393 &

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=
!!!!!!!!!!


Now I thought that there had to be another, second "Soerensen" reference =
within the=20
text or tables. Subject index for "phosphate buffers" in addition said: =
p. 138, 139,=20
151:

p. 138 displays: Table 10.24: "Phosphate buffer (25 degr.C)*(footnote: =
refers to:=20
GOMORI, 1955)", uses: Na2HPO4 and NaH2PO4 (range pH 5.8 - 6.8)

p. 139 displays: Table 10.25: "KH2PO4, NaOH buffer (25 =
degr.C)*(footnote, refers to:
BOWER and BATES, 1955)", uses: KH2 PO4 and NaOH (range pH 5.8 - 8.00)

p. 151 displays: Table 10.43: "Na2HPO4, NaOH buffer(25 =
degr.C)*(footnote: refers to
BATES and BOWER, 1956)", uses Na2HPO4 and NaOH (range pH 10.90 -12.00).

No citation of the second "Soerensen" reference: but then: I found it =
on page 132
(not indexed anyhow) :

Table 10.14: "Citric acid, sodium citrate buffer (25 degr.C)*(footnote, =
refers to=20
GOMORI 1955)", uses citric acid, Na3-citrate (range pH 3.0 - 6.2).

Additionally, the footmark reads:

} } For disodium hydrogen citrate, NaOH, HCl buffers covering the pH =
range 2.2 -=20
6.8, see *Soerensen (1909, 1912)* { {

Got it.

So at the end, despite not owning the original papers of Soerensen, I =
think those=20
must be experimental papers dealing with concentrations, temperatures, =
dilutions,=20
diverse buffer substances (according to PERRIN/DEMPSEY 1974, p. 1, the =
term=20
"buffering" was created by FERNBACH and HUBERT 1900, cf. Compt. rend. =
*131*,=20
p 293 &) and the so called "psH" -scale of Soerensen is most probably a =
protocol of=20
his measurements, dealing also with a variety of phosphates (at least K- =
and Na-
PO4), which sometimes is referred to as "Soerensen=B4s buffer" for =
sympathetic, "historical", "respectful" or "ancient" reasons, but still =
is 0.1 M or 0.067 M or =20
0.005 M buffer (see above) exhibiting slight modifications in pH and =
maybe in buffer=20
capacity by concentrations as well as temperature.
Some authors=B4 tables or their infos I went through state there is no =
or even little=20
difference in using Na-Phosphates instead of K-Phosphates, provided that =
the molar
ratios are kept.

So I wouldn=B4t worry about either *Na-Na-PO4* or *KPO4 -NaPO4* =
ingredients.
Most important conditions for me are buffer capacity at a given =
concentration and +/- isotonicity (which sometimes has to be increased =
by adding substances like glucose, sucrose or even NaCl). I am using =
Millonig=B4s 0.13M and 0.10M for buffering my specimens, osmication =
and/or washing solutions. Millonig=B4s buffer solution is
either prepared by mixing Na-Na-PO4 or also formulas using only NaH2PO4 =
(acidic) and NaOH (basic, alkaline component; Formula, if wanted, on =
request).

Just for completion of the reference list I give the reference for =
GOMORI 1955,=20
because he was obviousely a very famous scientist and worker in that =
field=20
(histochemistry and histochem. staining reactions), maybe that book is =
more readily
accessable to you (library) and you can find there valuable =
informations:

GOMORI (1955): Methods in Enzymology *1*, p. 141 &.

Hope this helps,
if I should have a look for getting those (certainly) "German written" =
original papers (which will be a little bit difficult, but.....and it =
will take some time to get it),=20
please don=B4t hesitate to send me your e-mail request.

Best regards to you and yours,=20
have a nice day

Dr. Wolfgang MUSS
Department of Pathology, LKA
EM-Laboratory
Muellner Hauptstrasse 48
A-5020 SALZBURG
AUSTRIA/Europe

phone: ++43++ 662 + 4482 + 4720 Ext
fax: ++43++ 662 + 4482 + 882 Ext.
e-mail: W.Muss-at-lkasbg.gv.at (note: "l" right to "-at-" is a small "L")=09


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Von: Gregory.Argentieri-at-sandoz.com[SMTP:Gregory.Argentieri-at-sandoz.com]
Gesendet: Samstag, 15. November 1997 19:16
An: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
Betreff: Q:Sorensens Buffer:

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Question/debate of the day:

What is the actual formula Sorensen used to make Sorensen's =
phosphate
buffer? Not what you think it is, but What Dr. Sorensen stated in =
his
paper in 1909, and what many of us have or thought we have been
referencing for the past 88 years.

Some references say (Hayat) to use sodium phosphate and Potassium
phosphate

Most other references state Sorensens Phosphate buffer has being =
made
with sodium monobasic and sodium dibasic salts.


If anyone has the original reference to sorensens (biochem, 22, =
253,
1909) on hand, I would be most appreciative if they would be kind
enough to email or fax it to me.

Thanks in advance
Gregory Argentieri
Novartis Pharmaceuticals Corp
59 Rt 10 East Hanover, NJ 07936

Phone: 973-503-8617
Fax 973-503-6339
Email Gregory.Argentieri-at-pharma.novartis.com








From: Wolfgang Muss :      W.Muss-at-lkasbg.gv.at
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:07:53 +-100
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Dear Greg,
unfortunately I found one data jam in my mail to you:

In the paragraph 8 lines above
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=
!!!! (followed by the original Soerensen references) instead of:

The formula uses "Na2HPO4 and NaH2PO4.H2O or NaH2PO4.2H2O, respectively,
the final mixture also containing NaCl (mg/100 ml) to adjust the =
tonicity to 0.92 at 37 degr.C". pH values are given for 25 degr.C as =
well as for 37 degr.C and differ at same=20
pH levels/mixtures in the range 0.01 - 0.02 (e.g. pH -at- 25 degr.C =3D =
5.76, -at- 37 degr.
C =3D 5.74;=20

-at- 80 degr.C. 7.33, -at- 37 degr. C 7.32)


footnote *: refers to SOERENSEN (1909), footnote "+": mentions CUTIE &=20
SCIARRONE (1969): No hint on "KH2PO4 and/or Na2HPO4......."

Next step: searching the "references index" for "Soerensen": uncredible, =
there it is:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=
!!!!!!!!!!!

it should be read:

"-at- 25 degr. C. 7.33, -at- 37 degr. C. 7.32"
Sorry!
Bye
W.





From: Bruce L. Wagner :      bwagner-at-iastate.edu
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:17:10 -0600
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To all concerned:
Here at the Bessey Microscopy Facility at Iowa State University, we have
determined the costs for all of our operations and what to charge our users
for the equipment, tech services, etc. If anyone wishes a copy of our
charges and/or basis for the figures, please send a FAX # or address and I
will send you the information. Cheers!
Bruce Wagner




From: Ritchie Sims :      r.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:36:58 GMT+1200
Subject: Re: Evex Analytical Press Release

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} November 17, 1997
}
} It is not Evex Analytical's intention to deceive anyone.
}
} Promotion of Evex Analytical Inc., is promoted only at
} www.evex.com
}
} Evex Analytical does own many other websites but promotes its products at
} www.evex.com
}
} http://www.evex.com/971117.htm


So how come you're insufficiently upfront to personally sign your
emails to the listserver?

While I'm on the subject, there have been a few postings recently
signed only with a nom-de-plume.
Is this ok? Doesn't seem quite reasonable to me.

cheers

Ritchie

Ritchie Sims phone: 64 9 3737599 ext 7713
Department of Geology fax: 64 9 3737435
University of Auckland
Private Bag 92019
Auckland
New Zealand




From: Jim Darley :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:47:05 +1100
Subject: Parasite domain web addresses

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Oops, Evex was just deleted from our site of microscopy related links.
Jim Darley

ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS
PO Box 111, Thuringowa QLD 4817 Australia
Phone +61 77 740 370 Fax: +61 77 892 313
Great microscopy catalogue, 500 Links, MSDS, User Notes
************************ http://www.proscitech.com.au
}
}
} Well, I really don't usually follow up on *myself*, but I went ahead and
} did a WhoIs on EVEX. It turns out that EVEX, happens to have registered
} the following names:
}
} EVEXTG.COM
} TNSERVICE.COM
} MEKTECH.COM
} IXRF.COM
} EDAX-EDS.COM
} NORAN-EDS.COM
} THOMSON-SCIENTIFIC.COM
} EVEX.COM
}
}
} billo





From: Randy Tindall :      rtindell-at-NMSU.Edu
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:48:46 -0700
Subject: SEM adhesive

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Ann,

There is a product called Mikrostik sold by Ted Pella, Inc. (800-243-7765
is the toll-free number for Canada). Other vendors might sell this, also.
This is designed for small particle adhesion on stubs and is not supposed
to bury the things, like some tapes and tabs do. I have used it
successfully a couple times for things like phytoliths. I have no idea if
it would survive the washing, fixation, etc. processes, but it might be
worth a try.

I have no financial interest, etc.


Randy Tindall
Electron Microscope Laboratory
Box 3EML
New Mexico State University
Las Cruces, NM 88003




From: Schibler, Matthew :      mschibler-at-bri.medsch.ucla.edu
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:27:54 -0800
Subject: RE: Zero-Stat

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Laura,

SIgma sells the Zero-Stat gun: page 2050 of their 1997 catalogue.

Matthew J. Schibler Ph.D.
UCLA Brain Research Institute
73-384 CHS 951761
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1761

(310) 825-9783
FAX (310) 206-5855
E-mail: mschibler-at-bri.medsch.ucla.edu

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From: DKITTLESON-at-PILLSBURY.COM
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 19:07:08 -0600
Subject: LM - Hessian Bordeaux

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I am looking for a supplier who carries Hessian Bordeaux. This stain is
reportedly used to differentiate damaged starch. Any information
regarding the staining protocol would also be appreciated.

Thank you,

Diana Kittleson
Pillsbury Technology East
dkittleson-at-pillsbury.com






From: ard-at-ansto.gov.au (Arthur Day)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:18:04 +1100
Subject: Re: Evex Analytical Press Release

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}
} It is not Evex Analytical's intention to deceive anyone.
}
}
}
} Promotion of Evex Analytical Inc., is promoted only at
}
} www.evex.com
}

Well then why when these other "websites" are visited, which just happen to
contain your competitor's brand names, do we end up AT YOUR HOME PAGE which
is promoting "your" products? That's not deceptive I suppose.

}
} Evex Analytical does own many other websites but promotes its products at
}
} www.evex.com
}

Put "own" in inverted commas. The web page you get using your competitor's
names in a URL is identical, at least to the limit of my ability to
distinguish between two images on a PC screen, to the web page you get
using www.evex.com. The links are the same too. So how could I be
reasonably expected to know that your intention is only to promote your
products through www.evex.com.

Your Press Release is an insult to our collective intelligence.

}
} http://www.evex.com/971117.htm







From: ard-at-ansto.gov.au (Arthur Day)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:19:14 +1100
Subject: Re: Evex Analytical Press Release

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} November 17, 1997
}
} It is not Evex Analytical's intention to deceive anyone.
}
} Promotion of Evex Analytical Inc., is promoted only at
} www.evex.com
}
} Evex Analytical does own many other websites but promotes its products at
} www.evex.com
}
} http://www.evex.com/971117.htm

There is more....

In the context of the preceeding messages in this thread, the curious might
want to take a look at screenshots of the Evex "VIDX X-ray Microanalysis
System" that can be viewed at either of the following identical websites,
both "owned" by Evex:

http://www.evex.com/anal.htm

and

http://www.thomson-scientific.com/anal.htm


and the screenshot of the WinEDS Version 3.0 microanalysis system marketed
by the real (and I imagine the original) Thomson Scientific at the
following totally unrelated website:

http://werple.net.au/~tsi/brochure.htm

Not making any allegations here, but WHAT GIVES??
Spooky stuff.







From: Jim Darley :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:49:41 +1100
Subject: Spurr's toxicity / allergy

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Dear Microscopists:
I have not noted any replies to the question posed and expect this is
because Spurrs' has four components and two (ERL and DMAE) are regarded as
fairly toxic. Information about these chemicals is given in our online
MSDS. The bigger problem is that some people apparently become allergic and
the symptoms of allergies can vary a great deal and the allergy could be in
response to different components as well.

I have no idea how common allergies to Spurr's components are, but I have
never personally met anybody who had such an allergy. Allergies can be very
troublesome but they do not reflect on the toxicity of a product. An
(off-topic) example: Our mangos are about to ripen which reminds me that
among "mango eaters" about 1 in 50 people develop a progressively nasty
allergy. Ripe mangos are excellent food, but to some people they are
disastrous.

Toxicity (and carcinogenicity, ERL) of Spurr's is undisputed and basic lab
technique should include use of a fumehood and wearing gloves. Clean
techniques should avoid wetting the gloves with the liquid resin. Using
good working practices should reduce any absorption to such a tiny dosage
that non-allergic people should worry about diesel fumes, sunlight, excess
iron, lack of certain vitamins and, if life-expectancy was the issue, a
drastic reduction of food intake.

While other embedding resins may be a little less toxic, it should be
appreciated that all epoxies (including household glues) are toxic. The
point is that you as lab personnel have the facilities and the knowledge to
dramatically reduce if not eliminate any dangers; spare a thought for the
multitudes not in that position and weigh dangers in the lab against
activities in your spare time.

I do not criticise microscopist for trying to learn about lab risks; quite
the opposite. However, I urge to 1. take precautions and 2. see it all in
perspective.
Cheers?
Jim Darley

ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS
PO Box 111, Thuringowa QLD 4817 Australia
Phone +61 77 740 370 Fax: +61 77 892 313
Great microscopy catalogue, 500 Links, MSDS, User Notes
************************ http://www.proscitech.com.au


}
} } I received this inquiry today, and wondered if any of you could help.
} } Please respond directly to Margaret, and not to the listserv.
} } }
} } } At the suggestion of my doctor, I have been searching the internet
} } } for information on the long-term effects of exposure to Spurr Resin.
}
} I'd like to see the responses to this query on the listserver, in
addition
} to the direct response, please.
}
}
} Caroline Schooley
} Educational Outreach Coordinator
} Microscopy Society of America
} Box 117, 45301 Caspar Point Road
} Caspar, CA 95420
} Phone/FAX (707)964-9460
} Project MICRO: http://www.MSA.microscopy.com/ProjectMICRO/Books.html
} Intertidal invertebrates: http://www.fortbragg.k12.ca.us/AG/PCI/





From: Stephen A. Shaffer :      sshaffer-at-microdataware.com
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 19:27:48 -0800
Subject: Re: RE cost analysis

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Krzysztof Jan Huebner

{hubner-at-IOd.krakow.pl} :-)

FOUNDRY RESEARCH INSTITUTE
Research Materials Department
Structural and Physical Research Laboratory

Zakopianska 73 Call +48 12 2605022 ext. 356
30-418 KRAKOW - POLAND Fax +48 12 2665478, +48 12 2660870

---------- Forwarded message ----------

Crossman, Harold wrote (in part):
} Rick,
}
} This looks like a job for activity based costing (ABC) analysis... but
} your situation seems manageable enough for a small project team.....
} From this point, standard TQM tools (storyboarding, Pareto analysis, etc.)....

Yeah, and Rick, don't forget to have your "small project team" of
consultants factor ABC and TQM into the cost analysis. Then, PDQ,
you'll be right up there with the "powers that be" in management
intellegence. Maybe they'll even give you your own key to the Executive
WC!

(I'm sorry. This was just too good for someone with a slightly twisted
sense of humor to pass up! All the best, sincerely, to everyone. Even
you, Harold. ;-) )
--

Stephen A. Shaffer
MicroDataware
sshaffer-at-microdataware.com (business)
http://www.microdataware.com (temporarily out of service)
steve_shaffer-at-compuserve.com (personal)
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From: r.g.white-at-sci.monash.edu.au (Rosemary White)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:57:09 +1200
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Dear all,

I agree with Jim Darley that toxicity and carcinogenic properties are
well-specified for Spurr's and other chemicals used in TEM, but that
allergies are less easy to define. In my own case, I have become allergic,
or perhaps I should say, sensitive (over about 15 years) to aldehyde
fixatives, most resins - including Spurr's - and their components and also
to darkroom chemicals, the latter so much so that I can do only very
limited darkroom processing at one stretch. The visible effects are like
sunburn; red, tender, itchy skin on face and hands or any part not
well-covered by clothes (or gloves). Takes a couple of days to fade. This
is despite taking precautions - only work in fume hood, always wear gloves,
etc. It's a good thing we do mostly freeze-sub work these days...

And some of us (e.g. yours truly) are indeed sensitive to a seemingly
ridiculous range of things besides the TEM chemicals - paint, petrol and
other oil-based organic solvents and creams, car fumes (yep), most
perfumes, etc. etc.

I'd guess that allergic symptoms are quite variable, and that people have
quite a range of susceptibilities. Haven't looked but also suspect there
may not be much literature on this - other than anecdotes like mine. Vague
memories of a similar discussion about maximum safe limits of exposure to
various toxic stuff, and about people developing allergies, on this list
not long ago. You can never take too many precautions....

cheers,

Rosemary White
Department of Biological Sciences
Monash University, Melbourne, Victoria 3168, Australia
phone 61-3-9905 5670
fax 61-3-9905 5613 email r.g.white-at-sci.monash.edu.au






From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9gis_Ravelle-Chapuis?= :      ravelle-at-jeol-sa.worldnet.fr
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:03:49 +0100
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R=E9gis RAVELLE-CHAPUIS
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ravelle-at-jeol-sa.worldnet.fr

JEOL (Europe) S.A.
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9gis_Ravelle-Chapuis?= :      ravelle-at-jeol-sa.worldnet.fr
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:53:41 +0100
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The maximum tilt angle available on the JEOL JEM-2010 F URP is + - 25=B0 =
even
on the edge of the grid.
This holder is quite new, but it have the specifications for the standard
double tilt holder.
The part number of this holder is EM-31031.

The system used to fix the sample on the holder is also different : it is
now easier .


R=E9gis RAVELLE-CHAPUIS
Application Engineer


ravelle-at-jeol-sa.worldnet.fr

JEOL (Europe) S.A.
All=E9e de Giverny
Espace Claude Monet
78290 Croissy sur Seine
FRANCE






From: Jouko =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E4ki?= :      jouko.maki-at-utu.fi
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:52:59 -0600
Subject: EM-costs

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Hi everyone

I have calculated the costs for our different equipments and they can be
found on our web-page at:
URL http://www.utu.fi/med/em/fees.html
The currency is FIM and approximate exchange course is 1USD=3D5,30FIM
There are two categories for prices: A subvented price for university
research and another for "outsiders" (this includes also wages).
The costs are calculated for 5 years lifetimes of the instruments. Service
costs, energy, room rents, etc. are included.

I hope this will help

Regards,
Jouko


Jouko K. M=E4ki, Ph.D., Laboratory Manager
University of Turku, Laboratory of Electron Microscopy
Kiinamyllynkatu 10 FIN-20520 TURKU FINLAND
Tel: + 358 (0)2 333 7318 GSM: + 358 (0)40 505 2521 FAX: + 358 (0)2
333 7380






From: Jouko =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E4ki?= :      jouko.maki-at-utu.fi
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:41:45 +0200
Subject: EM-costs

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Hi everyone

I have calculated the costs for our different equipments and they can be
found on our web-page at:
URL http://www.utu.fi/med/em/fees.html
The currency is FIM and approximate exchange course is 1USD=3D5,30FIM
There are two categories for prices: A subvented price for university
research and another for "outsiders" (this includes also wages).
The costs are calculated for 5 years lifetimes of the instruments. Service
costs, energy, room rents, etc. are included.

I hope this will help

Regards,
Jouko


Jouko K. M=E4ki, Ph.D., Laboratory Manager
University of Turku, Laboratory of Electron Microscopy
Kiinamyllynkatu 10 FIN-20520 TURKU FINLAND
Tel: + 358 (0)2 333 7318 GSM: + 358 (0)40 505 2521 FAX: + 358 (0)2
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From: Keith Ryan :      KPR-at-wpo.nerc.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:01:57 +0000
Subject: Re: Spurr's toxicity / allergy -Reply

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Dear All
I suspect that details on allergies etc. might be obtained through the Safety Listserver; to subscribe,send

SUB SAFETY {your name}

to LISTSERV-at-UVMVM.UVM.EDU

To unsubscribe, send: UNSUB SAFETY to the LISTSERV address above.

It is a good source of information but brought me about 30-50 messages per day when I was on it over a year ago!

Keith Ryan
Plymouth Marine Lab, UK




From: Tamara Howard :      howard-at-cshl.org
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:32:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Job:technician:mostly TEM

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Electron Microscopy Technician - EM technician needed by state-of-the-art
laboratory studying the organization of proteins and nucleic acids in cell
nuclei. The individual should be competent in thin sectioning with a
diamond knife, fixation and embedding methods, darkroom work and have some
experience in imunofluorescence microscopy. Experience in cell culture is
also desirable. Please send resume and two letters of reference to: Dr.
David L. Spector, Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, P.O. Box 100, Cold Spring
Harbor, New York 11724.

***********Please do not respond to this e-mail address.******

Tamara Howard
CSHL






From: tflore-at-lsumc.edu (Flores, Teresa)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:19:57 -0600
Subject: ? Zinc Formalin

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Fellow Netters, Someone has "borrowed" my Frieda Carson book and Sheehan
does not have the procedure on how to prepare Zinc Formalin.
I know most of the labs that I have spoken to locally and have switched to
it, purchase it commercially (Anatech). I am getting ready to give a
Histotechnology Workshop/Course in Panama. And in previous Workshops in
Central and South America one question has begun to be asked, "How does one
prepare Zinc Formalin" I hope to have the answer incase I am asked again
this time.
Thank you for all your help, Teresa






From: Scott Holt :      102467.2752-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:41:53 -0500
Subject: Website Parking

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I have been watching the thread on website parasites and
website parking with great interest, as BUEHLER has also
gone through a similar situation. Since this does relate to
your ability to access our website and gather information on
metallographic and microscopy products, I think it is appropriate
to mention here.

Two years ago, when BUEHLER tried to register our trademark
name, BUEHLER.COM, we discovered that the name had been
purchased by a company called MOZES, CLEVELAND & CO.
This is a website hosting firm. They claimed that they had
purchased the name for a company called Buehler Books (which
does not exist, and the domain name has never been actively in use).
This seemed innocent enough, until we discovered that
MOZES, CLEVELAND & CO. had registered the name LECO.COM;
another metallographic supplier (LECO has subsequently purchased
their name back from MOZES, CLEVELAND & CO.). This all
seemed highly coincidental, given the fact that the supposed company,
Buehler Books was not a metallography supplier.

We then discoved that our main competitor, STRUERS, was actively
doing business with MOZES, CLEVELAND & CO., using their services
to host the STRUERS website. More coincidence! Turns out that
the name STUERS.COM is owned by STRUERS, but is administered,
wholly, by, you guessed it, MOZES, CLEVELAND & CO.

I do not in any way suggest that STRUERS had something
to do with MOZES, CLEVELAND & CO. purchasing the domain names
(trademarks, I might add...) of their two chief competitors. This could
have been a clever idea of an independent company who did their
research on one of their client's competitors. However, this does
not change the fact that our trademark is unavailable to us for use
as a domain name.

We have addressed the legal situation with
MOZES, CLEVELAND & CO., and have received a decidedly
chilly response from the owner, Jeno E. Mozes (webmaster-at-clevelandoh.com).
He has offered to sell our name back to us for an outrageous fee,
which seems to suggest that his story about Buehler Books was
a bit of un-truth. We have not ruled out further legal action in this
matter.

If you have searched for BUEHLER by typing www.buehler.com,
you have been looking in the wrong place. You can find us at:
www.buehlerltd.com

Sincerely,
Scott D. Holt
BUEHLER, LTD.
PO Box 1
41 Waukegan Rd.
Lake Bluff, IL 60044
(847)295-6500
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From: rpowell-at-ns1.lihti.org (Rick Powell at Nanoprobes)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:26:26 -0500
Subject: Re: tagging substrates with metals,

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James:

If metal nanoparticles (~1 nm) would be appropriate for tagging the
substrates, we can label some of the substrates with our 1.4 nm Nanogold
cluster label, which we have cross-linked to a number of small molecules
before (hope this doesn't sound too much like a commercial plug - we are
interested in this type of experiment from a research perspective as well).


Rick Powell
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From: Arthur Schuessler :      schueslr-at-sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:41:39 +0100
Subject: EM: high pressure freezing, where possible?

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Dear "freeze substitution microscopists",
is ther any facility, where we could do some (not many) high pressure
freezings of plant roots and/or a fungus? We could do the further
preparation in our labs, but it makes not much sense to freeze by
"conventional" methods, to much ice crystals.
Anybody interested in such a kind of cooperation in Germany (or countries
near to Germany)???
Arthur
Dr. Arthur Schuessler
University of Heidelberg
Zellenlehre
D-69120 Heidelberg
Germany




From: Jacky Larnould :      larnould-at-worldnet.fr
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:46:48 +0100
Subject: FRaudulent site

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HI everybody
Althought this message has nothing to see with Microscopy It's very
interresting for an European (we are a bit late on Internet) to see the
fight for the names of Web sites.
Shall we rename World War Web?
I'm not surprise that some genius has licensed some name in order to hack
or to sale in a next future to the involving company.
Just have a look on what you think is the web site of KLM (Dutch airline
company)
http://www.klm.com
and you will be surprise of the link.
I guess this name was licensed and KLM buy the right to link to his
official site was bought
http://www.klm.nl
Anyway that kind of practices are not very commercial /or for money maker
but who can complain in that word of monkey businees we've created.
Of course this is my opinion and not my company opinion....etc
Regards
==========================================================
Jacky Larnould
mailto:larnould-at-worlnet.fr
voice:33 (0)4 67 72 28 26
fax :33 (0)4 67 79 54 90




From: MICHAEL DELANNOY :      delannoy-at-welchlink.welch.jhu.edu
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 17:08:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: inert conductive material?

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Friends,
A peer is looking for a inert heat conducive material
for layering onto silica wafers with sub-micron bumps to make
this bumpy surface smooth. The reason is to accurately measure
temp with a smooth surface probe (smooth to smooth surface for
accurate measuring). The conditions are 300 celsius and under
vaccuum. Here is the problem: once the measurement is done, the
material must be removable leaving absolutely no trace, exposing
once again the bumpy surface. Are we dreaming or is there such
a material out there? All responses (fictional or non) will be
appreciated.

Mike D.





From: laura.rhoads-at-wku.edu (Laura Rhoads)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:26:59 -0600
Subject: mystery column???

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I wanted to take the time to thank everyone who contacted me regarding=
my Reichert OmU2 woes. At this time I have passed along the suggestions=
to my crack repair team who are on it.

In the meantime, while we were rummaging through the lab in search=
of the elusive yet non existent spare belt, my archaeology team=
discovered the eighth wonder of the Chemistry World. This would=
be in the form of a silvered glass vacuum column, about a meter=
long, with an outside taper on the bottom, inside taper on the top,=
and through intentionally missing patches of silver on the side=
one can see some type of distilation array running down the length=
of the middle. "Oldershaw column" is written on the box and the=
only other markings are HGF from Stafford TX on the tube. I looked=
in American Laboratory but HGF isn't there, so since it's probably=
older than I am, can anyone tell me what this is? It looks new but=
for all I know was used on the Manhattan Project, or at least during=
that epoch.

Thanks again,

Laura

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Department of Biology
Western Kentucky University
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Bowling Green, KY 42101-3576

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From: S.B.Abd-Razak :      S.B.Abd-Razak-at-durham.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 00:04:15 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: unsubscribe

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From: Chris Gilpin :      cgilpin-at-fs1.sem.man.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 00:12:02 -0000
Subject: EVEX

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Dear All


The following WEB sites all have the same IP address of 165.254.117.137
www.evex.com
www.ixrf.com
www.mektech.com
www.noran-eds.com
www.thomson-scientific.com


No wonder they all look the same!


Chris






From: Dr. Mark W. Lund :      lundm-at-acousb.byu.edu
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:57:47 MST/MDT
Subject: RE: inert conductive material?

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There are several poyimides and photoresits available that are
used for "planarizing." They all can be easily removed, but the amount
of planarization depends on the size of the bumps. 300 degrees C should
not be a problem.

best regards
mark

Mark W. Lund, PhD
Director } } Soft X-ray Web page http://www.moxtek.com { {
MOXTEK, Inc.
452 West 1260 North
Orem UT 84057 801-225-0930 FAX 801-221-1121
lundm-at-xray.byu.edu

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wealth. It has far more trouble reaching inside individuals and making them
good." Doug Bandow




From: Melvyn Dickson :      M.Dickson-at-unsw.edu.au
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:36:39 +1100
Subject: Bal-Tec accessories

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Hello world,

In the early '90's Balzers had a subsidiary called Bal-Tec which sold EM
accessories. In particular a flat (45 mm) round (190 mm diam) desiccator
for storing SEM stubs cat No. BU 014 053-T. Now I want some more, I find
Balzers no longer sell them.

Has the BAL-Tec agency passed into other hands? Does anyone else sell
these? It will help our storage situation greatly.


TIA,



Mel Dickson
Electron Microscope Unit,
University of New South Wales.
Sydney NSW 2052 Australia

Phone (+612) 9385-6383
Fax (+612) 9385-6400

Website {http://emunit1.babs.unsw.edu.au/emu_top.htm}




From: Steve Beck :      becks-at-sunynassau.edu
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 22:32:52 -0500
Subject: Philips EM 300 Parts

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Dear Colleagues:

Approximately 2 years ago my institution received a Philips EM 300 as a
donation. After 2 years of cutting through miles of red tape I am finally
ready for installation. Upon uncrating and opening all of the boxes, we
discovered that the film loading and receiver boxes are both missing along
with the photographic plate carriers/holders (31/4 x 41/4"). In addition, a
tool kit was missing - I was informed that the most important component is
a long rod-like tool with a square endpiece for working on the vacuum
system.

Does anyone know whether these items are still available (I intend to
inquire at Philips) or would anyone be willing to donate or sell these
items from an old Philips which has been put out of service. Am I limited
to EM 300 boxes and plate carriers or are they interchangeable with other
Philips TEM's.

Any assistance/suggestions would be greatly appreciated!



Stephen J. Beck
Associate Professor
Bio-Imaging Center/Electron Microscopy
Department of Biology
Nassau Community College
Garden City, NY 11530
Voice Mail: (516) 572-7829
Email: {becks-at-sunynassau.edu}
URL: {http://www.sunynassau.edu/webpages/biology/becks.htm}






From: Marek Malecki :      malecki-at-MACC.WISC.EDU
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 23:11:25 -0700
Subject: Re: Bal-Tec accessories

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Hello Mel,
They do exist in Lichtenstein. Technotrade represents them in the USA. You
may contact Mr. Auwaerter for the details by email: AAuwaerter-at-aol.com.
Sincerely,
Marek.
PS
Thanks for the reprint, just arrived.


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From: Marek Malecki :      malecki-at-MACC.WISC.EDU
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 23:11:25 -0700
Subject: Re: Bal-Tec accessories

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Hello Mel,
They do exist in Lichtenstein. Technotrade represents them in the USA. You
may contact Mr. Auwaerter for the details by email: AAuwaerter-at-aol.com.
Sincerely,
Marek.
PS
Thanks for the reprint, just arrived.


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From: Wolfgang Muss :      W.Muss-at-lkasbg.gv.at
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:51:29 +-100
Subject: AW: ? Zinc Formalin

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Salzburg, 19th Nov., 1997

Dear Teresa,
maybe meanwhile you got the formula for mixing up Zinc Formalin.
If not: here you get one:

1% Zinc Sulfate in 10% unbuffered Formalin, pH 3.7

Ref.:=20
HERMAN, CHILIPALA, BOCHENSKI, SABIN, ELFONT: Zinc Formalin Fixative for =
Automated Tissue Processing: J. Histotechnol. Vol. 2/No.2, June 1988, p. =
85-89

BANKS, CARON: The use of Metallic Salts as an Adjunct to Formalin For =
Routine Tissue Fixation; Mayo Clinic, Mayo Foundation (unpubl. summary =
of Results)


If you want to have a Protocol for a hand-out on:
Restoration of Estrogen Receptor Sensitivity in Formalin-fixed, =
Paraffin-Embedded Breast Carcinomas,
Procedure for Restoring Antigenicity of Over-Processed Formalin-Fixed =
Paraffin Blocked Tissues (Antigen Retrieval)
then please send your Fax number via E-mail .

Hope this helps,
best regards

Dr. Wolfgang MUSS
Department of Pathology, LKA
EM-Laboratory
Muellner Hauptstrasse 48
A-5020 SALZBURG
AUSTRIA/Europe

phone: ++43++ 662 + 4482 + 4720 Ext
fax: ++43++ 662 + 4482 + 882 Ext.
e-mail: W.Muss-at-lkasbg.gv.at (note: "l" right to "-at-" is a small "L")





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Von: Flores, Teresa[SMTP:tflore-at-lsumc.edu]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. November 1997 16:19
An: histonet-at-pathology.swmed.edu
Cc: microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
Betreff: Q:Fix: Zinc Formalin, formula

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Fellow Netters, Someone has "borrowed" my Frieda Carson book and Sheehan
does not have the procedure on how to prepare Zinc Formalin.
I know most of the labs that I have spoken to locally and have switched =
to
it, purchase it commercially (Anatech). I am getting ready to give a
Histotechnology Workshop/Course in Panama. And in previous Workshops in
Central and South America one question has begun to be asked, "How does =
one
prepare Zinc Formalin" I hope to have the answer incase I am asked again
this time.
Thank you for all your help, Teresa








From: Wolfgang Muss :      W.Muss-at-lkasbg.gv.at
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:30:00 +-100
Subject: Re: Bal-Tec accessories

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Dear Melvyn,
glad to help you:

Due to consolidation processes you maybe will be informed by the company =
listed below the name of "Balzers" and "BAL-Tec" (for Vacuum sector) has =
changed to:


PFEIFFER Vacuum Ltd.
Their representatives in Austria/Europe sell, besides the "BALZERS =
Instruments"-Components, in Austria "exclusively" also the "complete =
program" components sold hitherto under " BALZERS OPHTHALMIK AG", =
specimen preparation app. for EM of the "BAL-TEC AG" as well as the =
"vacuum-metallurgic apps." of the "PFEIFFER VAKUUMANLAGENBAU GmbH".

I own a PFEIFFER "VACUUM TECHNOLOGY 1997"-Cat (German ed.) which shows =
the USA-Representative

PFEIFFER Vacuum Technology Inc.
24 Trafalgar Square
NASHUA NH 03051 USA

phone: +603+578-6500
fax: +603 578-6550
unfortunately, no e-mail is given

I think, they should sell the old programme of BALT-TEC, you need.

Good luck, best regards

Dr. Wolfgang MUSS
Department of Pathology, LKA
EM-Laboratory
Muellner Hauptstrasse 48
A-5020 SALZBURG
AUSTRIA/Europe

phone: ++43++ 662 + 4482 + 4720 Ext
fax: ++43++ 662 + 4482 + 882 Ext.
e-mail: W.Muss-at-lkasbg.gv.at (note: "l" right to "-at-" is a small "L")


=09


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Von: Melvyn Dickson[SMTP:M.Dickson-at-unsw.edu.au]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. November 1997 02:36
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Hello world,

In the early '90's Balzers had a subsidiary called Bal-Tec which sold EM
accessories. In particular a flat (45 mm) round (190 mm diam) =
desiccator
for storing SEM stubs cat No. BU 014 053-T. Now I want some more, I =
find
Balzers no longer sell them.

Has the BAL-Tec agency passed into other hands? Does anyone else sell
these? It will help our storage situation greatly.


TIA,



Mel Dickson
Electron Microscope Unit,
University of New South Wales.
Sydney NSW 2052 Australia

Phone (+612) 9385-6383
Fax (+612) 9385-6400

Website {http://emunit1.babs.unsw.edu.au/emu_top.htm}







From: Alexander Spuskanyuk :      alex-at-hpress.dipt.donetsk.ua
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:05:28 +0200
Subject: Need some info on image processing software

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Does anybody know of any free or shareware software for processing
microscopy images that allows, for instance, to distinguish between
grains in metallic materials or determine the phase contents of the
material, etc.?

The image source is the digital camera or scanned photography image.

I would very much appreciate having any information in this or related
fields.

Yours,




From: PECZ Bela :      pecz-at-falcon.mufi.hu
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:55:53 +0100
Subject: Bal-Tec

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Dear Dr. Muss,

I am afraid that you are just partly right at the Bal-Tec story.
Bal-Tec was bankrupt more than a year ago. Then a new owner has bought the
properties of the former firm during the consolidation process. Then ha
says, according to the law in Lichenstein he was able to launch a new firm
under the same name as earlier: Bal-Tec. So, there is a Bal-Tec firm which
produces EM accecories and units and this is different form Balzers-Pfeiffer
which is based in Austria.
Their addresses:=20
BAL-TEC AG
F=F6hrenweg 16
Postfach 62
FL-9496 Balzers
F=FCrstentum Lichenstein
Tel: 41-75-388 12 12
Fax: 41-75-388 12 60

in US: TECHNOTRADE
7 Perimeter Road
Manchester
NH 03103-3343
Tel: 1-603-622 5011
Fax: 1-603-622 5211

in Germany: BAL-TEC GmbH
Wielsiepen 38
D-58579 Shalksm=FCle
tel: 49- 1722 78 36 51
fax: 49- 2355 90 30 74

Sincerely Yours, Bela Pecz
19th November 1997
-----------------------------------------
Dr. Bela Pecz
Research Institute for Technical Physics
H-1325 Budapest, POBox 76
Hungary
phone: 36-1-2332 865
fax: 36-1-2332-794
E-Mail: pecz-at-mufi.hu
-----------------------------------------





From: ROBERT WILLIS :      WILLIS.ROBERT-at-EPAMAIL.EPA.GOV
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 07:59:40 -0600
Subject: volcanic ash vs. desert dust

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Fellow Microscopists,

I've been asked to distinguish volcanic ash from Saharan desert dust in
particles collected on air filters using SEM/EDX. I have requested
samples from both sources to provide "source signatures", but don't
know if these will be available. In the meantime, are there morphological
or chemical differences which can distinguish these two types of
particles? Thanks very much for your suggestions!






From: Scott Holt :      102467.2752-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:30:12 -0500
Subject: Website Parking

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Thanks to those who expressed their concern about the
website parking issue. I mentioned it because it seems
to be a rather common practice, and it interferes with
the free flow and sharing of information.

Although a few people have sent me suggestions as to
how I might 'adjust' the situation, and I thank them, I think
spamming the offenders email may not be anything more
than sinking to their level. And, it might backfire! As Nestor
pointed out, spamming from listserver users might cause a
response which would overload the server.

I wanted to inform...not to incite. We will continue to
persue legal means of regaining use of our trademark.

Thanks to all.

Sincerely,

Scott D. Holt
BUEHLER, LTD.
PO Box 1
41 Waukegan Rd.
Lake Bluff, IL 60044
(847)295-6500
http://www.buehlerltd.com




From: TIMOTHY.M.BOURETT-at-usa.dupont.com
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:40:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Making Fab Fragments with IgMs

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Greetings,

We are doing whole-mount immunofluorescence of walled fungal cells, and
have run into problems of permeability of a IgM antibody we wish to label with.
We have no problems with our IgG antibodies, but this IgM simply does not get
in (at least not consistently and evenly). I was told that it may be possible
to digest the IgM with trypsin to generate Fab fragments. I was also told that
it is difficult to control the activity of the protease to prevent unwanted
cleaving. Does anyone have any experience with this approach? A reference
with a protocol would be greatly appreciated!! Likewise, any additional
advice/comments would be welcome. Thanks.

Tim Bourett
DuPont Experimental Station
Wilmington, DE USA




From: Alexandr G. Domantovski :      DOMAN-at-nw.oirtorm.net.kiae.su
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 17:18:08 +300 (MSK)
Subject: radial distribution function (RDF)

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Hi, dear colleagues!
For radial distribution function (RDF) method I need a
receipt to take coherent part of electron scattering curve.
Any suggestions or literature references (journals,
conferences, etc.-it is better) would be appreciated.
Thank you very much for attention to my problem.

Alexsandr Domantovski.
RRC "Kurchatov institute", Russia.







From: William R Oliver :      oliver-at-cpt.afip.mil
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:16:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Website Parking

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On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Scott Holt wrote:

}
}
} Although a few people have sent me suggestions as to
} how I might 'adjust' the situation, and I thank them, I think
} spamming the offenders email may not be anything more
} than sinking to their level. And, it might backfire! As Nestor
} pointed out, spamming from listserver users might cause a
} response which would overload the server....
}

I would like to pipe up with some agreement here. Using bad
net behavior in response to bad net behavior is a lose-lose
proposition. In the non-commercial arena, it is pretty much
useless and indefensible. In the commercial arena, it is
useless and often actionable.

For the most part, the best response is simple openness.
When people act like asses, the ethical status of the
behavior is pretty obvious *and* they don't want it known.
Since the actions speak for themselves, it is not necessary
to run around and say "This is bad!!" It is only necessary
to point out that "This is."

In the case of domain-name parasites, one really only needs
to make sure that *everyone* knows what the parasite is
doing. The very act of parasitism then becomes its own
anti-advertisement -- or if not, it becomes its own
defense. In the case at hand, for instance, it is not
really necessary for a person who thinks that EVEX's
use of www.mektech.com is real parasitism to say so,
and EVEX's denial is equally unnecessary. The act
speaks for itself. If one really cared about it, one
need only bruit it about without comment, perhaps in
a sig line.

If it is obviously parasitic, the result will be negative.
People on the net react so strongly to parasitism that
the downside will overcome any positive effects of
misdirection. If it is not obviously parasitic, then
there will be appropriately little reaction. For instance,
let's say I posted with the sig:

"Beware of domain-name hoarders! The following registrations
use my name:

oliver.com belongs to George Oliver
billo.com belongs to Bill O'Brien
oliver.net belongs to "Mailing Services, Inc."

Which one is hoarding names, do you think?"

I don't think that George Oliver or Bill O'Brian really need to
run out to defend themselves here (the names above are
approximations, by the way).

If, on the other hand, one starts playing nasty games,
these things can escalate. For an example of how bad
it can get, take a look at

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/6172/helpjane.htm

or go to the AltaVista search engine (www.altavista.digital.com,
**not** www.altavista.com) and do an advanced search for
Woodside AND Hitchcock.

billo





From: shAf :      mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 08:13:39 -0800
Subject: Re: volcanic ash vs. desert dust

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ROBERT WILLIS wrote:

} ...
} I've been asked to distinguish volcanic ash from Saharan desert dust ...

The volcanic ash should primarily be amorphous glass, whereas the dust
should be the result of physical weathering and abrasion and therefore be
relatively resistant minerals. SEM/EDX should therefore show similar "glassy"
composition for all particles whereas the dust would show a variety of (eg)
qtz, feldspar and oxides. I would have to believe XRD would be the best
analytical method and much quicker.

... hope this helps ...

cheerios, shAf
--
{\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} cogito, ergo zZOooOM {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/}
Michael Shaffer, R.A. - University of Oregon Electron Probe Facility
mshaf-at-oregon.uoregon.edu -or- mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~mshaf/






From: shAf :      mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 08:33:56 -0800
Subject: Re: Need some info on image processing software

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Alexander Spuskanyuk wrote:

} ...
}
} Does anybody know of any free or shareware software for processing
} microscopy images ...

You don't mention your computer preference but if you follow some of the
links provided at: {http://www.ou.edu/research/electron/www-vl/} I think
you'll find what you're looking for ...


cheerios, shAf
--
{\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} cogito, ergo zZOooOM {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/}
Michael Shaffer, R.A. - University of Oregon Electron Probe Facility
mshaf-at-oregon.uoregon.edu -or- mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~mshaf/






From: Paula Allan-Wojtas :      AllanWojtasP-at-em.agr.ca
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:57:00 -0500
Subject: EM life expectancy - summary

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Hello, all,

Thanks to all who responded to my recent question. The responses I
received came from what appears to be a good cross section of the EM
population, covering university, industry and government users as well as
EM suppliers.

Some folks said that there were a number of 20-30 year old scopes which
were still in active use, were in good shape and working well.

Most defined technical obsolescence (i.e., the newer equipment available
had significantly improved capabilities) as 7-10 years, while operational
obsolescence (frequently required, difficult to get parts and service) was
defined as 12-15 years.

Most folks who were lucky enough to be able to replace their EM's
regularly used a 10 year depreciation schedule for accounting purposes.
One person suggested a 5 year schedule for SEMs and a 10 year
schedule for TEMs to address the fact that there have been more
advances in a shorter time frame in the development of SEMs than TEMs.

In an interesting twist, a couple of people talked about the psychological
phenomenon where users or collaborators are more keen to do their
work, or have their work done on "new" equipment rather than "old"
equipment. I was particularly interested in this phenomenon, since we are
being urged by our Administrators to attract Industry collaborators, and
this may prove to be an important point in this regard.

I have saved the responses I have received, and will submit them along
with my request for new EM equipment. Thanks for the ammunition and
the informative discussion.

Paula.

Paula Allan-Wojtas
Food Microstructure Specialist
Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada
Atlantic Food and Horticulture Research Centre
Kentville, Nova Scotia Canada B4N 1J5

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From: wcornell-at-centum.utulsa.edu (Winton Cornell)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:04:24 -0600
Subject: Ash vs. dust

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Robert:

There is enough literature out there on "dust" and "volcanic ash" to choke
a horse, so to speak.....I guess for you it's a matter of where to start.
Here are some tips:

1. the morphology of volcanic ash and "dust", the latter of which could
comprise - in part - volcanic ash, are very different, for example:

a. volcanic ash largely derives from explosive fragmentation of magma
(better known as lava when emitted to earth's surface as a lava flow) -
accordingly textures reflect this process......seeing as the mechanical
energy for this explosion derives from rapid decompression of magma and
attendant gas exsolution, you should expect - almost always - to find
remnant outlines of gas bubbles (vesicles).....also, because the magma is
quenched by the process, the ash is glassy (+/- crystals)...so, basically
you've got broken glass with bubbles and/or bubble outlines (also, glass
often breaks with conchoidal fracture)

b. "dust" on the other hand, if it does not contain volcanic particles,
should comprise mainly minerals and/or mineral fragments derived from the
surface weathering of rocks.....the overwhelming remnant component of
weathering is quartz (silica = SiO2), but what you see depends on both the
weathering environment and available source rock for the "dust".....I
suppose if one had to generalize, it could be said that "dust" should
comprise mainly mineral fragments with surface mechanical defects derived
from a combination of chemical etching (chemical weathering, as in
dissolution) and mechanical collisions (as generated during movement by
wind and water = often recognizable as mini-impact features)....sometimes
chemical alteration products of primary minerals are retained on mineral
surfaces (as, for example, Fe-oxide or Fe oxyhydroxide might be.....or
manganese oxide = desert varnish), so things get tricky

2. as far as chemistry goes, generalizations can again be made:

a. volcanic ash, as indicated above, comprises glass and crystals......the
latter could be very similar to minerals derived from (or liberated by) the
weathering of rocks, whereas glass on the other hand is fairly distinct
compositionally from minerals (save for a few "trash" minerals, like
amphibole group minerals, that are "kitchen sinks" that contain up to 10
elements in fairly important abundances)....look for the following

1.magma that produces ash by explosion is somewhere from:

"andesitic" in composition, meaning that it probably has } 55% SiO2, with
important levels of Al2O3 (approx. 15%, or more), FeO and MgO (10%-15%,
between them), CaO (5%-10%), TiO2 (2%) and Na2O and K2O (4%-6%, between
them)

to

"rhyolitic" in composition (sometimes a derivative product of andesite),
meaning that it has } 67% SiO2, with important levels of Al2O3 (approx.
10%-15%), FeO and MgO (5%-10%, between them), CaO (2%), TiO2 ( {1%) and Na2O
and K2O (5%-8%, between them).

These are sweeping generalizations, with data off the top of my head, but
will serve you fairly well.

2. crystals, on the other hand, are usually not so robust in the sense that
their compositions are more restricted, for example:

Na-K feldspars comprise Na, K, Al and Si, with minor Ca and very low Fe

Ca-Na feldspars comprise Ca, Na, Al and Si, with minor K......notably, Fe
and Mg are not important for feldspar group minerals, whereas

Fe-Mg silicates of many silicate families comprise Fe, Mg, Ca, Al and Si,
with the Al and Ca most variable, along with lesser Ti and
Mn........notably, Na and K are not important for most common silicates
(amphiboles are an exception)

clay minerals are mainly Al and Si and quartz, of course, is Si only (note:
when geologists refer to any element in a mineral we invariably imply that
it is associated with oxygen....thus Si in quartz is actually SiO2....we
express all chemical analyses of rocks as oxides as oxygen is the most
abundant element in Earth)

Whew! Geology 101 in an e-mail. Contact me if you have specific questions.

Winton


Dr. Winton Cornell
Senior Research Associate & Supervisor, Microanalysis Laboratory
Department of Geosciences
The University of Tulsa
600 South College
Tulsa, OK 74104-3189

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From: scott.wight-at-nist.gov (Scott Wight)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:32:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: volcanic ash vs. desert dust

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Robert and listers

Generally speaking high temp sources like volcanoes create spectacular
spheres in a range of sizes but air sampling preferentially selects the
midrange 0.5 to 10 micron with the larger setttling out and the smaller
agglomerating. All this depends on atmospheric conditions. Wind blown
dusts generally are all shapes and sizes, rarely spheres, with rounded
edges from banging into each other. Composition in both cases is largely
dependant on the source.

Greg Meeker (USGS) has a paper which discusses morphology and composition
of volcanic plume particles - I highly recommend it:

Meeker, GP, Hinkley, TK "The Structure and Composition of Microspheres From
the Kilauea Volcano, Hawaii" American Minerologist, Vol 78, Pg 873-876,
1993.

You may find the particle atlas usefull also.

Scott


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From: Donald Lovett :      lovett-at-tcnj.edu
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:42:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Paraffin embedding stations--recommendations sought

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My ancient paraffin embedding station recently died. I nearly suffered a
heart attack when I saw the price of a replacement.

I am looking for a paraffin dispenser+hot plate+cold plate+forceps warmer.
Although a work station is inviting because it has a trough system to
collect all the drips, the $8,700 price that I was quoted is out of the
question.

I have a separate embedding oven and vacuum embedding oven, so I do not
need a cadillac model. I also am considering buying the units
individually. Is there a hot plate or hot plate plus cold plate with a
trough?

If you are a vendor (for either the work station or components), please
contact me directly.

If you are a user/recent purchaser of any of the above, your comments
would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Don

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From: Katharine Kato :      kkato-at-mail.arc.nasa.gov
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:13:07 -0900
Subject: Wanted: JEOL 2000FX tilt/rotate stage

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We are looking for a tilt/rotate stage for our JEOL 2000FX. If you have
one that you would like to dispose of, please contact me directly at:
kkato-at-mail.arc.nasa.gov.

Katharine Kato

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From: ard-at-ansto.gov.au (Arthur Day)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:15:38 +1100
Subject: Evex web sites: VIDX system screenshot replaced

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In a message posted yesterday, the URL for a screenshot of the VIDX X-ray
microanalysis system located on the Evex web site(s) was listed. Evex very
quickly replaced the particular screenshot referred to in that posting with
another one soon afterwards. The replacement screenshot has exactly the
same URL as before. This coincidence in timing was extremely fortunate all
around because the few curious enough to take a look at the original one
might have been deceived into thinking that the Evex VIDX system looked
very similar to their competitor's Win EDS system. Fortunately very few
would have had the potential chance to be so deceived.

The screenshot in question has been replaced in a very timely fashion and
the URLs mentioned in yesterday's message now draw point to a newer
screenshot of the Evex "VIDX X-ray Microanalysis System" on the various web
sites owned by Evex. These URLs are for example

http://www.thomson-scientific.com/anal.htm
and
http://www.evex.com/anal.htm
etc
etc

The screenshots of the competing Thomson Scientific WinEDS Microanalysis
System on the site owned by the long-established Australian company,
Thomson Scientific Instruments Pty Ltd, at

http://werple.net.au/~tsi/brochure.htm

remain unchanged. The recently updated image on the Evex sites makes it
clearer that the VIDX system, in my opinion, no longer bears such a strong
apparent similarity to the WinEDS system after all. The updated VIDX image
suggests that there is at least one additional feature since yesterday, and
since yesterday the system now apparently sports a significantly different
user interface involving the transposition of two pairs of control buttons.
The revised image seems to be a more accurate representation since some
previously incorrect peak identification labels on the EDS spectrum have
also been corrected. Any remaining apparent visual similarities to WinEDS,
such as the graphics on the control buttons and elsewhere that are fairly
distinctive and complex, but not necessarily intentionally identical since
they could be derived independently, could be entirely coincidental. This
is particularly the the case now, since the current VIDX screenshot image
has an even lower displayed resolution than yesterday's version. There is
now an even less likely chance that potential customers could be
accidentally deceived into thinking that there was any visual similarity
between the two competing X-ray analysis systems. We should all thank Evex
for making this especially timely effort to improve the perceived
credibility of the information on their website(s).

Apologies for cluttering the list further with this topic but in the name
of ethical business practices and fair competition, there is an obligation
to make sure that Evex's very timely and commendable efforts to reduce any
possible misunderstandings should not go unnoticed.

I shall now immediately cease any further participation in discussions on
this or other Evex-related topics. It is not my intention to deceive
anyone...

} } November 17, 1997
} }
} } It is not Evex Analytical's intention to deceive anyone.
} }
} } Promotion of Evex Analytical Inc., is promoted only at
} } www.evex.com
} }
} } Evex Analytical does own many other websites but promotes its products at
} } www.evex.com
} }
} } http://www.evex.com/971117.htm
}
} There is more....
}
} In the context of the preceeding messages in this thread, the curious might
} want to take a look at screenshots of the Evex "VIDX X-ray Microanalysis
} System" that can be viewed at either of the following identical websites,
} both "owned" by Evex:
}
} http://www.evex.com/anal.htm
}
} and
}
} http://www.thomson-scientific.com/anal.htm
}
}
} and the screenshot of the WinEDS Version 3.0 microanalysis system marketed
} by the real (and I imagine the original) Thomson Scientific at the
} following totally unrelated website:
}
} http://werple.net.au/~tsi/brochure.htm
}
} Not making any allegations here, but WHAT GIVES??
} Spooky stuff.






From: Serge Oktyabrsky :      serge_oktyabrsky-at-ncsu.edu
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 18:53:01 -0500
Subject: Re: radial distribution function (RDF)

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Alexandr G. Domantovski wrote:
Hi, dear colleagues!

} For radial distribution function (RDF) method I need a
} receipt to take coherent part of electron scattering curve.
} Any suggestions or literature references (journals,
} conferences, etc.-it is better) would be appreciated.
} Thank you very much for attention to my problem.
}
} Alexsandr Domantovski.
} RRC "Kurchatov institute", Russia.

I think, the classical papers on RDF calculations are:
1. J.Konnert and J. Karle, Acta Crystalographica A29 (1973) 702 (and other
papers by J. Karle) It contains a very detailed procedure for optimization
of the extraction of coherent part of the scattering. This procedure can be
used in full or partially.

2. R.Kaplow et al. Phys.Rev. 138 (1965) A1336. A very useful paper
describing the sources of errors in RDF calculation.

3. D.J.H.Cockayne, D.R.McKenzie Acta Crystal. A44 (1988) 870; and Phil. Mag.
B54 (1986) 113. More recent papers giving a complete procedure and some
underlying problems.

I'll appreciate any information you'll get from the listserver.

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From: Nestor J. Zaluzec :      zaluzec-at-Sparc5.Microscopy.Com
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 19:04:54 -0600
Subject: Close Discussion on WWW Site Names

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Colleagues...

I think the ethics of this have now been adequitely
discussed. Let us now close the discussion.

Of course, should anyone discover other
misleading URL's it would be appropriate to
let the listserver community know.

Nestor
Your Friendly Neighborhood SysOp






From: Sara Miller :      saram-at-acpub.duke.edu
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 19:53:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Making Fab Fragments with IgMs

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If you can't do ultracryotomy, why don't you take off the cell wall with
enzymes (check out refs by Laura Davis and others; you might also treat
the cytoplamsic membrane with detergents like saponin. Of course
chewing your antibody to smaller bits would help too--but that's not my
area, sorry.

Sara


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} We are doing whole-mount immunofluorescence of walled fungal cells, and
} have run into problems of permeability of a IgM antibody we wish to label with.
} We have no problems with our IgG antibodies, but this IgM simply does not get
} in (at least not consistently and evenly). I was told that it may be possible
} to digest the IgM with trypsin to generate Fab fragments. I was also told that
} it is difficult to control the activity of the protease to prevent unwanted
} cleaving. Does anyone have any experience with this approach? A reference
} with a protocol would be greatly appreciated!! Likewise, any additional
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}
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From: Sara Miller :      saram-at-acpub.duke.edu
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 20:02:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: ImmunoLM - CD4/CD8-antibodies

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Try Linscott's Directory of Immunological and Biological Reagents.

ISBN: 0-9604920-8-9
Phone: 707-544-9555
FAX 415-389-6025

4877 Grange Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95404

Sara

On Mon, 17 Nov 1997 hefeh-at-Rcs1.urz.tu-dresden.de wrote:

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} We are looking for antibodies against CD4 and CD8 that can be used with
} formalin fixed, paraffin embedded rat tissues - with or without application
} of antigen retrieval procedures.
} Has anybody some helpful experience ?
}
} Thanks alot.
}
} Heinz
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From: Ewald Eipper :      ewald.eipper-at-uni-tuebingen.de
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:04:27 +0100
Subject: Standards for Light elements

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Hallo,

I search standards for an electron-microprobe. We will analyse different
ceramic samples.


My adress:
Ewald Eipper
Institute for Mineralogy, Petrology and Geochemistry
Universty of Tuebingen
Wilhelmstr. 56
72074 Tuebingen
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From: Wharton Sinkler :      sinkler-at-apollo.numis.nwu.edu
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:55:51 -0600 (CST )
Subject: Re: radial distribution function (RDF)

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Some recent work showing RDF's for amorphous Pd-Si using electron
diffraction is in

M. Matsushita, Y. Hirotsu, K. Anazawa, T. Ohkubo and T. Oikawa, "Electron
diffraction intensity analysis of amorphous Pd75Si25 alloy thin films
with imaging-plate technique", Materials Transactions JIM vol 36 (1995)
pp 822-827

The authors correct for inelastically scattered intensity based on EELS
measurements. The figures in the article plot both total and elastic
intensity as functions of Q, which may be of some help. I am not sure if
there is more recent work along these lines, but a search of some of
these authors might provide additional material.

Wharton Sinkler

On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Serge Oktyabrsky wrote:

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} Hi, dear colleagues!
}
} } For radial distribution function (RDF) method I need a
} } receipt to take coherent part of electron scattering curve.
} } Any suggestions or literature references (journals,
} } conferences, etc.-it is better) would be appreciated.
} } Thank you very much for attention to my problem.
} }
} } Alexsandr Domantovski.
} } RRC "Kurchatov institute", Russia.
}
} I think, the classical papers on RDF calculations are:
} 1. J.Konnert and J. Karle, Acta Crystalographica A29 (1973) 702 (and other
} papers by J. Karle) It contains a very detailed procedure for optimization
} of the extraction of coherent part of the scattering. This procedure can be
} used in full or partially.
}
} 2. R.Kaplow et al. Phys.Rev. 138 (1965) A1336. A very useful paper
} describing the sources of errors in RDF calculation.
}
} 3. D.J.H.Cockayne, D.R.McKenzie Acta Crystal. A44 (1988) 870; and Phil. Mag.
} B54 (1986) 113. More recent papers giving a complete procedure and some
} underlying problems.
}
} I'll appreciate any information you'll get from the listserver.
}
} *****************************
} Dr. Serge Oktyabrsky
} Visiting Scientist
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} fax 919-515-7642
} e-mail: serge_oktyabrsky-at-ncsu.edu
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}
}
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}
}


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From: Wayne England :      wengland-at-ortech.on.ca
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:51:00 -0500
Subject: BIOHAZARDS

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Hello micro-colleagues,

We are examining doing some cryo-SEM on biohazardous material and have some
concerns regarding the sterilization of equipment after use. Once the
samples are in the cryo-prep unit and fractured for coating, the excess
sample will remain in the unit and of course will eventually melt and be
deposited on chamber components. There is also the potential for small
fractions of the material to break off and enter into the vacuum system and
be vented out.? Does anyone have experience in this area and can make some
recommendations? Greatly appreciated.

Wayne England
ORTECH CORP.
wengland-at-ortech.on.ca




From: Steve Beck :      becks-at-sunynassau.edu
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:52:57 -0500
Subject: Philips EM 300 Parts Response

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Dear Colleagues,

I would like to thank everyone for responding to my urgent need for parts
for the ongoing installation of a Philips EM 300 at my institution. I have
a number of leads on the required parts which I am currently following up
with.

As you all know, this listserver is quite a valuable resource. Nestor is to
be applauded for his efforts in keeping this 'online'. I sent off my
original message at approximately 10:00pm (U.S. Eastern time) and couldn't
begin to imagine that early the next morning I had five responses and later
a phone call, with many offers to donate the needed parts.

Thanks again to all!

Steve

Stephen J. Beck
Associate Professor
Bio-Imaging Center/Electron Microscopy
Department of Biology
Nassau Community College
Garden City, NY 11530
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From: Garry Burgess :      GBurgess-at-exchange.hsc.mb.ca
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:14:52 -0600
Subject: TEM of Human Sperm Cilia

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Does anyone have a method for the processing of human sperm for
ultrathin sectioning to allow examination of the cilia?




From: Janusz Chris Terlecki :      aas-at-pacbell.net
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:32:23 -0800
Subject: WDS Microspec WDX-2A spectrometer controller

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I am looking for the controller for the Microspec WDX-2A Wavelength
Dispersive Spectrometer. Any information on the subject will be greatly
appreciated. Thank you very much in advance.


Chris Terlecki

Applied Analytical Sciences
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From: Andrew Shaw :      andrewsh-at-cancerboard.ab.ca
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:58:54 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time)
Subject: Confocal manager

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From: zhang-at-cvlab.harvard.edu (Dorothy Zhang)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:46:42 -0600
Subject: Adhesion of LM slide

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Dear microscopists:
Is there anyone knowing how to keep aorta tissue stay on the glass
microscopic slide? I have tried poly-L-lysion caoted and SectionLock
(positive charged) slides for either immunohistochemistry and in situ
hybridazation (sometimes both on the same slide). I don't know how to avoid
tissue falling off.
Thanks in advance.

Dorothy Zhang
Harvard School of public Health
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677 Huntington Ave,
Boston, MA 02115
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From: wise-at-vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:01:32 -0600 (CST)
Subject: non-wettable grids

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I have a vial of copper TEM grids that are very hydrophobic. Does anyone
know how I can make them wettable? Acid rinse? Alcohol rinse? Detergent
rinse? Buy new grids?

TIA

Bob

Dr. Robert R. Wise
Department of Biology and Microbiology
University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
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From: Greg Erdos :      gwe-at-biotech.ufl.edu
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:21:30 -0500
Subject: Re: Adhesion of LM slide

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Have you tried the amino silane treated slides activated with glutaraldehyde?
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From: Woody.N.White-at-mcdermott.com
Date: 11/20/97 11:29 AM
Subject: WDS Microspec WDX-2A spectrometer controller

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FWIW... Once upon a time, Kevex also produced a control system for
the '2A. Was called "Sesame". Horrible firmware bugs were never
fixed, but it is usable once you become familiar with the special
"features". Quant was handled, however, by the EDS processor.
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From: Tina Carvalho :      tina-at-pbrc.hawaii.edu
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:23:46 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Re: non-wettable grids

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On Thu, 20 Nov 1997 wise-at-vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu wrote:

} I have a vial of copper TEM grids that are very hydrophobic. Does anyone
} know how I can make them wettable? Acid rinse? Alcohol rinse? Detergent
} rinse? Buy new grids?

I barbecue my grids just before I pick up sections.
Pass them several times quickly over the flame from an alcohol lamp or
disposable lighter. With a little practice, you'll have clean,
hydrophilic grids with no melted bars! Even with slim bar grids.

Aloha,
Tina

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From: bozzola-at-siu.edu (John J. Bozzola)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 04:21:29 -0600
Subject: Re: non-wettable grids

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} I have a vial of copper TEM grids that are very hydrophobic. Does anyone
} know how I can make them wettable? Acid rinse? Alcohol rinse? Detergent
} rinse? Buy new grids?

Several ways to skin this cat.

If using uncoated grids, when ready to pick up sections, simply pass the
grid through an alcohol (not gas) flame to cherry color (almost
instantaneously). This may slightly discolor the grid but it is now
extremely hydrophilic. This takes some practice since most people tend to
overheat and damage the grids but it is very convenient.

Individual grids may also be cleaned as needed by dipping (5-10x) into 4%
nitric acid and then dipping several times in distilled water.

Groups of grids may be cleaned by swirling in 4% nitric acid for several
minutes and rinsing in distilled water. Then rinse in ethanol and dry in an
oven.



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From: bozzola-at-siu.edu (John J. Bozzola)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 05:04:54 -0600
Subject: Computers: 230 MB mag optical drives

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We have a 230 MB magneto optical drive on a Noran V-III EDX system and need
a second drive in order to use the disks on a Macintosh. Pinnacle Micro no
longer makes the 230 MB Tahoe, so we are looking for another manufacturer.
Anyone care to recommend a 230 MB model MO and vendor to purchase this
device? Thanks.

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From: Raymond F Egerton :      egerton-at-phys.ualberta.ca
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 16:58:02 -0700 (MST)
Subject: re: non-wettable grids

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I have a vial of copper TEM grids that are very hydrophobic. Does anyone
know how I can make them wettable? Acid rinse? Alcohol rinse? Detergent
rinse? Buy new grids?
TIA
Bob

Holding each grid in tweezers, dip it into the mouth of a bottle
containing concentrated nitric acid, for about 1 second. The fumes will
render the grid hydrophilic without tarnishing the copper.

Ray Egerton, Physics Dept, University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada T6G 2J1
Phone: 403-492-5095, FAX: 403-492-0714, e-mail: egerton-at-phys.ualberta.ca
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From: Ritchie Sims :      r.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:42:55 GMT+1200
Subject: Savillex PTFE vessels

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Hi

Anybody got a fax or email address or website for the makers of
Savillex PTFE labware?

thanks

Ritchie

Ritchie Sims phone: 64 9 3737599 ext 7713
Department of Geology fax: 64 9 3737435
University of Auckland
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Auckland
New Zealand




From: Zhiyu Wang :      wangz-at-pulsar.cs.wku.edu
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 21:02:22 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Computers: 230 MB mag optical drives

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How about consider the regular hard drive. I bought a
3.5GB hard drive for $169 in Bowing Green, KY.

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Electron Microscope Lab
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Bowling Green KY 42101

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} longer makes the 230 MB Tahoe, so we are looking for another manufacturer.
} Anyone care to recommend a 230 MB model MO and vendor to purchase this
} device? Thanks.
}
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From: Melvyn Dickson :      M.Dickson-at-unsw.edu.au
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:26:44 +1100
Subject: Re: non-wettable grids- Flame them!

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From: Monique.Repoux-at-cemef.cma.fr (Monique Repoux)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:37:02 +0100
Subject: High temperature heating in a SEM

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We project to heat metal alloys up to about 1200 C under mechanical
constraints in order to observe phase transformation in situ in a MEB.
In such experimental conditions (heat and light emitted from the sample), I
guess there will be many problems with the detectors (Everhart-Thornley,
BSE, EDX, EBSP).
I ask me if, for this goal, there would be some advantages to work with an
environnemental MEB (ESEM - gaseous secondary electron detector).

Any kind of experience in this field would of great interest for us.
Many thanks for your answers.

Monique
repoux-at-cemef.cma.fr

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From: jd :      wa5ekh-at-cyberramp.net
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 03:39:31 -0800
Subject: Temperature Control Stages for Optical Microscopy

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It has been a few years since I have been involved with temperature
control stages on optical microscopes. Last I remember there were issues
such as surface area temperature mapping(variations) functions, isolation,
target range overshooting, steady state vs. drift functions, heating and
cooling techniques, depth of focus and other optical issues, maximum and
minimum feasible temperatures, heating and cooling techniques, etc. Can
anyone refresh my memory , bring me up to date ,and refer me to journal and
review articles on the subject.
I would like references to current manufacturers. Also I would be
interested in personal experiences with specific current equipment
manufacturers of both microscopes and control stages for this use
(preferably any potentially negative feedback opinions sent only to my
personal email address below, so no manufacturer is embarrassed or damaged
by personal opinions in this forum/possibly an obvious point of
controversy).
Finally does anyone have any personal experience with modifications to
existing designs or references to in house construction of these devices.
I also might be prospect for use equipment of this nature.

JD
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From: Nikolai Kinaev :      nick-at-mama.minmet.uq.oz.au
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 20:31:27 +1100
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The experience I had while performing the in-situ experiments on the
hot-filament CVD growth of diamond films in the ESEM showed, that in case
of Danilatos's detector (ESD for ESEM) the major problem at high
temperatures is the thermal electron emission. If your material would not
have a high thermal electron emission at this temperature, you can succeed.
But the major problems with the metals is their ability to emmit electrons
at high temperature. The low energy of thermal electrons does not matter,
thay will be accelerated by the EDS detector. If you will be able to
supress somhow the thermal electron emission, ESEM (ESD detector) may be
extremely helpfull. Possible solution is to apply some positive voltage to
the sample (the voltage should be slighly higher than the exit work).

Best regards and a good luck.
If you have any other questions about ESEM in-situ experiments you are
welcome.

Nick Kinaev (The university of Queensland, Australia)

} We project to heat metal alloys up to about 1200 C under mechanical
} constraints in order to observe phase transformation in situ in a MEB.
} In such experimental conditions (heat and light emitted from the sample), I
} guess there will be many problems with the detectors (Everhart-Thornley,
} BSE, EDX, EBSP).
} I ask me if, for this goal, there would be some advantages to work with an
} environnemental MEB (ESEM - gaseous secondary electron detector).
}
} Any kind of experience in this field would of great interest for us.
} Many thanks for your answers.
}
} Monique
} repoux-at-cemef.cma.fr
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From: scott.wight-at-nist.gov (Scott Wight)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:09:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: High temperature heating in a SEM

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Monique
The ESEM secondary electron detector, ESD in the older instruments and GSED
in the newer instruments, is not light sensitive as the other detectors
(E-T, BSD, and light element EDS) are very light sensitive. The ESEM has a
special high temp ESD for use with the hot stage and I believe the heat
shield is recommened for that temp. I would also take care to protect your
EDS window from not only the light but also heat (IR) and projectiles.
Good luck,
Scott Wight

ESEM/PVSEM page {http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/3429/PVSEM.html}

}
} We project to heat metal alloys up to about 1200 C under mechanical
} constraints in order to observe phase transformation in situ in a MEB.
} In such experimental conditions (heat and light emitted from the sample), I
} guess there will be many problems with the detectors (Everhart-Thornley,
} BSE, EDX, EBSP).
} I ask me if, for this goal, there would be some advantages to work with an
} environnemental MEB (ESEM - gaseous secondary electron detector).
}
} Any kind of experience in this field would of great interest for us.
} Many thanks for your answers.
}
} Monique
} repoux-at-cemef.cma.fr
}
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From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:42:08 -0500 (EST)
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} I have a vial of copper TEM grids that are very hydrophobic. Does anyone
} know how I can make them wettable? Acid rinse? Alcohol rinse? Detergent
} rinse? Buy new grids?
}
Dear Bob,
I put the grids in a plasma cleaner for ~1 min; this may be more
difficult than the other methods suggested.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




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} I have a vial of copper TEM grids that are very hydrophobic. Does anyone
} know how I can make them wettable? Acid rinse? Alcohol rinse? Detergent
} rinse? Buy new grids?
}
Dear Bob,
I put the grids in a plasma cleaner for ~1 min; this may be more
difficult than the other methods suggested.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




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} I have a vial of copper TEM grids that are very hydrophobic. Does anyone
} know how I can make them wettable? Acid rinse? Alcohol rinse? Detergent
} rinse? Buy new grids?
}
Dear Bob,
I put the grids in a plasma cleaner for ~1 min; this may be more
difficult than the other methods suggested.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




From: Linda Fox :      lfox1-at-wpo.it.luc.edu
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:43:16 -0600
Subject: confocal 2 cents

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Hello Friends,
I would be interested in hearing opinions about the features
that microscopists consider essential on a new purchase of a confocal
microscope for biological work.

Which scopes do you consider worthy, user friendly, cost efficient
and the best quality optically ? Are there any features or scopes
that have proved, in use, not to perform up to expectations ?
I would welcome input from users and vendors.
Thanks,

Linda M. Fox
lfox1-at-wpo.it.luc.edu
Loyola University Medical Center
Dept. of CBN and Anatomy
2160 S. First Ave.
Maywood, Illinois 60153
1-708-216-3395 or
Dr. John A. McNulty
1-708-216-5161




From: John J. Bozzola :      bozzola-at-siu.edu
Date: Thursday, November 20, 1997 6:33 PM
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John,

I have not used them so I don't know if I can recommend them but APS
Technologies makes a 230 MB MO drive that says can be used on Mac, PC or NT
systems. Costs are between $300 and $400 depending on the one you get.
Their phone number is 800-766-8427 and is available 7 days/wk. 24 hrs./day.
They also sell many other drives and accessories including hard drives CD
ROM and writeable CD drives.

I have no interest in APS or their products.

Michael D. Standing
BYU Microscopy Lab
e-mail: Michael_Standing-at-byu.edu
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From: Andrew Buechele :      andrew-at-rsrch.vsl.cua.edu
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:18:51 EST
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Some years ago I did some observations of crystalization in waste
glass at about 1000 C through the generosity of Electroscan
Corporation which had developed the ESEM (It has now gone over to
Philips). I also did some additional observations at 700-800 C of
crystallization in other glasses. I has absolutely no trouble making
the observations. I would presume the detector would work well in
your application as well.
I have no personal interest in Philips/Electroscan. This is just
my personal experience.
Andy Buechele
The Catholic University of America
409 Hannan Hall
Washington, D.C. 20064
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From: Bill Chissoe :      wchiss-at-ou.edu
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Bob,
A lot of good suggestions, but I keep a stock of 3% HCl in 95% Et-OH
on hand for this purpose. In bulk, I swirl them in a small amount of the
cleaning solution for ~30 sec., rinse several times with DH2O and dry
them using a Buchner funnel with a piece of filter in the bottom. They
remain hydrophylic for quite a while (days,weeks?) before they need to
be treated again. Individually, they may be dipped 2-3 times in the
cleaning solution, dipped several times in DH2O, dried on filter paper
and used.
Bill
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} know how I can make them wettable? Acid rinse? Alcohol rinse? Detergent
} rinse? Buy new grids?
}
} TIA
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} Bob
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From: Tony Garratt-Reed :      tonygr-at-MIT.EDU
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:20:01 -0500
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Our 230Meg Optical drive is a Fujitsu Dynamo, bought about two years ago
from one of the large computer places (Insight, PC Warehouse, etc., etc - I
don't remember which specific one now). I've no idea, though, if it is
still available.

Tony Garratt-Reed


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From: Tony Garratt-Reed :      tonygr-at-MIT.EDU
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:22:25 -0500
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} I was interested to see the various responses to this question, as my own
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From: Stuart McKernan :      mckernan-at-cems.umn.edu
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:41:54 -0600
Subject: Re: High temperature heating in a SEM

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Responding to the message of
{3.0.3.32.19971121203127.006b0328-at-mama.minmet.uq.oz.au}
from Nikolai Kinaev {nick-at-mama.minmet.uq.oz.au} :
}
[...]
}
} The experience I had while performing the in-situ experiments on the
} hot-filament CVD growth of diamond films in the ESEM showed, that in case
} of Danilatos's detector (ESD for ESEM) the major problem at high
} temperatures is the thermal electron emission. If your material would not
} have a high thermal electron emission at this temperature, you can succeed.
} But the major problems with the metals is their ability to emmit electrons
} at high temperature. The low energy of thermal electrons does not matter,
} thay will be accelerated by the EDS detector. If you will be able to
} supress somhow the thermal electron emission, ESEM (ESD detector) may be
} extremely helpfull. Possible solution is to apply some positive voltage to
} the sample (the voltage should be slighly higher than the exit work).
}
} Best regards and a good luck.
} If you have any other questions about ESEM in-situ experiments you are
} welcome.
}

I believe this is what has been done for the ESEM 1500 degree hot stage. We have
used the regular hot stage (1100 degrees max), and a prototype of the high
temperature one at the Electroscan factory to look at melting of films on
ceramic substrates. As I remember, 1100 - 1200 is the regime where it became
crucial to suppress the thermal electrons in order to get a useable image with
the GSED.



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From: psic-at-uclink4.berkeley.edu (Paula Sicurello)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:19:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Let There Be Light!

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Webbers please illuminate me,


I need to find replacement bulbs for a 1977 Leitz HM-LUX light
microscope. Where do I find bulbs to replace the one that burned out. Is
there a one stop light bulb source?
Thanks for any information you might send my way.


I'll see you later,


Paula = )

Paula Sicurello
UC Berkeley
Electron Microscope Lab
psic-at-uclink4.berkeley.edu






From: Paul Tiseo :      tiseo.paul-at-mayo.edu
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:20:28 -0500
Subject: Re: confocal 2 cents

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At 09:43 AM 11/21/1997 -0600, you wrote:
} I would be interested in hearing opinions about the features
} that microscopists consider essential on a new purchase of a confocal
} microscope for biological work.

Our lab is also thinking of purchasing a confocal. I'd love to be
included in this discussion if it goes to private mail.
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From: Tom Phillips :      tphillips-at-biosci.mbp.missouri.edu
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:58:57 -0500
Subject: Good bulb supplier

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I find the following company a great source of low cost bulbs. I pay less
than 1/2 of what I had been paying at other sources. One of my microscope
dealers told me the last bulb I got was for less than he gets them for!
They give quotes over e-mail.

-------------------------------------------
Janet Connolly Lamp Technology, Inc.
lamptech-at-panix.com 1-800-KEEP-LIT
"We a have bulb for every socket"
http://www.webscope.com/lamptech/
-------------------------------------------


Thomas E. Phillips, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Biological Sciences
Director, Molecular Cytology Core Facility
3 Tucker Hall
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211
(573)-882-4712 (voice)
(573)-882-0123 (fax)






From: Caroline Schooley :      schooley-at-mcn.org
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:50:56 -0800
Subject: Free journals

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I have ~3 years of the journal Microscopy Research & Technique, It's
current; altho I resigned as an editor a year ago, I've continued to
receive them. I'll send them to someone who is willing to pay UPS shipping
costs.

Caroline Schooley
Educational Outreach Coordinator
Microscopy Society of America
Box 117, 45301 Caspar Point Road
Caspar, CA 95420
Phone/FAX (707)964-9460
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Intertidal invertebrates: http://www.fortbragg.k12.ca.us/AG/PCI/






From: wise-at-vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:41:11 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Summary-non wettable grids

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Boy, did this one fill up my in box. Thanks for all the replies. We're
going to try the alcohol lamp first and see how that works for us.

Thanks again

Bob Wise

**************

I barbecue my grids just before I pick up sections.
Pass them several times quickly over the flame from an alcohol lamp or
disposable lighter. With a little practice, you'll have clean,
hydrophilic grids with no melted bars! Even with slim bar grids.

Tina (Weatherby) Carvalho

****************

Wash in 100% EtOH, maybe followed by 100% Acetone. Or Ac 1st, then EtOH,
doesn't matter. If really bad, do a wash with distilled water and dilute
mild detergent first. To be honest, I forget if I sonicated or just swirled
(been a while since I had to do this). Dry thoroughly.

When I've had this problem, it was because of an organic film that
collected on the grids, usually air borne crud.

Phil Oshel

***************

I usually rinse them in acetone before I use them. This cleans the oils off
of them.

Jane Glamp

***************

If using uncoated grids, when ready to pick up sections, simply pass the
grid through an alcohol (not gas) flame to cherry color (almost
instantaneously). This may slightly discolor the grid but it is now
extremely hydrophilic. This takes some practice since most people tend to
overheat and damage the grids but it is very convenient.

Individual grids may also be cleaned as needed by dipping (5-10x) into 4%
nitric acid and then dipping several times in distilled water.

Groups of grids may be cleaned by swirling in 4% nitric acid for several
minutes and rinsing in distilled water. Then rinse in ethanol and dry in an
oven.

John J. Bozzola

***********************
"etch" them in 1n HCl for a few minutes (they will turn shiny!), rinse
in dist. water and dry from ethanol.
They will turn hydrophobic in a few days, a pain.
My trick is to pull the grid through an alcohol flame (next to the
microtome) just befor pick up. They will colorize (oxidise), but I never
had a problem with contamination etc. It's a dream to pick up the
sections!

Markus F. Meyenhofer

***************
Holding each grid in tweezers, dip it into the mouth of a bottle
containing concentrated nitric acid, for about 1 second. The fumes will
render the grid hydrophilic without tarnishing the copper.

Ray Egerton
****************
A real easy way to make them hydrophilic is to use a small flame from
e.g. an ethanol spirit lamp. Whisk each grid through the flame so it
flashes red. Too long and its oxide! Makes them quite hydrophilic.

Melvyn Dickson
******************
what works best: try to 'glow-discharge' them. These units can be
made in a workshop, but you also can buy them, are easy to use,
and work reliably. (you can get the address of a supplier on request)

What may work (and can be tried instantly):
rinse in ~ 10% sulfuric acid briefly, or for a 1 or 2 minutes,
then in water, finally in acetone (pure) for a few min.
(the latter treatment is used in our lab to clean gold carriers for
freeze-etching; with copper grids, it might be a problem ...)

Reinhard Rachel
***************
I would suspect that they have some type of an oil coating to (presumably)
prevent oxidation, in which case a sonication in acetone should do the trick.

Brian G. Demczyk
***************
I put the grids in a plasma cleaner for ~1 min; this may be more
difficult than the other methods suggested.

Bill Tivol
***************
My own solution has been to wash the grids in fairly concentrated NaOH for a few
seconds, followed by several distilled water rinses.

Tony Garratt-Reed
***************
I keep a stock of 3% HCl in 95% Et-OH
on hand for this purpose. In bulk, I swirl them in a small amount of the
cleaning solution for ~30 sec., rinse several times with DH2O and dry
them using a Buchner funnel with a piece of filter in the bottom. They
remain hydrophylic for quite a while (days,weeks?) before they need to
be treated again. Individually, they may be dipped 2-3 times in the
cleaning solution, dipped several times in DH2O, dried on filter paper
and used.

Bill Chissoe
***************
We clean our grids by dipping them into 0.1N HCL(or 1.0N HCL, if you
want them really clean) for 10 times; followed by few dips in 95%ETOH;
followed by few dips in acetone. You can use this technique with a few grids
one at a time or you can clean an entire vial of 100. When cleaning grids
in a vial, you can pipette the solutions into and out of the vial, cap the
vial and shake between solutions..

Brendalyn Bradley-Kerr
**************
I usually just dip my grids in a 0.1N solution of
HCl just prior to picking up sections...that's it. I don't rinse them
or anything!

Beth Fischer

Dr. Robert R. Wise
Department of Biology and Microbiology
University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
Oshkosh, WI 54901

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From: Bill Neill :      110155.1253-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 00:02:52 -0500
Subject: SEM lists

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Is there such a thing out there as a reasonably complete listing of SEMs =
in
the USA, by type, User, whatever?
Many Thanks
Bill Neill




From: rgriffin-at-eng.uab.edu
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 12:18:28 -0600
Subject: Supplies for manual stereology

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1) Does anyone know where to get special order reticles and graticles?
My microscope supplier does not have what I need.

2) I also need to know where to buy a counter (I have no idea what the
correct name is!) that allows you to keep track of the number of
intersections you count in a field placement. These are small
mechanical devices with a button that increases the counter.

Thanks in advance,

Robin Griffin
UAB Materials and Mechanical Engineering




From: Melvyn Dickson :      M.Dickson-at-unsw.edu.au
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 08:12:45 +1100
Subject: Re: non-wettable grids- Flame them!

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At 09:16 21/11/97 +0001, you wrote:
} I would advance that the reason that flaming tghe grid renders it
} hydrophillic is that the surface is roughened (either small distortions
} in the grid during heating or the presence of carbonaceous residue on
} the surface), which may be undesirable in the long run as this surface
} would be prone to pick up contaminants that may subsequently outgas in the
} microscope. Perhaps treatment in a non-destructive (to the grid) solvent
} would be preferable.


I always thought that flaming burned off a thin film of organic matter on
the grids. They dont distort visibly on flaming. Neither do they turn
black from carbonaceous reside, as the alcohol flame burns cleanly. But
they change colour with formation of a copper oxide film.

As for the risk of picking up contaminants they are already contaminated
with the material which makes them hydrophobic. Also the time elapsed
between flaming and insertion into the microscope is only about an hour as
staining and washing proceeds so there is small opportunity for contamination.

If you want guaranteed good adhesion to flamed grids, you should
deliberately "contaminate" them with "scotch"tape adhesive dissolved on
chloroform.

I suspect any organic solvent will leave a trace of organic matter so avoid
them where I can.



Mel Dickson
Electron Microscope Unit,
University of New South Wales.
Sydney NSW 2052 Australia

Phone (+612) 9385-6383
Fax (+612) 9385-6400

Website {http://emunit1.babs.unsw.edu.au/emu_top.htm}




From: H.BRINKIES :      hbrinkies-at-lucy.cc.swin.edu.au
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:19:31 +0000
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I like to hear of your experience (if any) when placed into a similar
situation.

For more than 40 years I have been polishing specimens for
metallographic and geological examinations by optical and electron
microscopical methods. Various standard techniques were used in
the past and are still being applied; in addition, I teach my
students these techniques. In may circumstances I also use diamond
paste with ethanol as lubricant.

However, one of our safety officers suddenly 'discovered' that
ethanol has a carcinogenic classification. As a result he wants all
polishing with ethanol stopped unless we polish inside a fume
cupboard and wear gloves.

He even suggested that we issue breathing masks to my students before
they can polish samples using ethanol.

How would you react to a similar situation ?


Hans Brinkies
Senior Lecturer
SWINBURNE, University of Technology
Industrial Microscopy
HAWTHORN, Vic. 3122 - Australia
hbrinkies-at-swin.edu.au




From: shAf :      mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 15:28:58 -0800
Subject: Re: Ethanol

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H.BRINKIES wrote:

} ...
}
} However, one of our safety officers suddenly 'discovered' that
} ethanol has a carcinogenic classification. As a result he wants all
} polishing with ethanol stopped unless we polish inside a fume
} cupboard and wear gloves.
}
} ...

Excuse me??? ... grain alcohol ... a carcinogen??? This may be the
case for 200proof (100%) ETOH, because I think they may use drying
agents ... but I can't imagine this being true for 190proof (95% -
5%H2O) ETOH!!!

Let's straighten this out and get the facts ...

cheerios, shAf
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From: oshel-at-ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Philip Oshel)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 20:06:53 -0600
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Take him to the pub and buy him a drink.

Phil

} I like to hear of your experience (if any) when placed into a similar
} situation.
}
} For more than 40 years I have been polishing specimens for
} metallographic and geological examinations by optical and electron
} microscopical methods. Various standard techniques were used in
} the past and are still being applied; in addition, I teach my
} students these techniques. In may circumstances I also use diamond
} paste with ethanol as lubricant.
}
} However, one of our safety officers suddenly 'discovered' that
} ethanol has a carcinogenic classification. As a result he wants all
} polishing with ethanol stopped unless we polish inside a fume
} cupboard and wear gloves.
}
} He even suggested that we issue breathing masks to my students before
} they can polish samples using ethanol.
}
} How would you react to a similar situation ?
}
}
} Hans Brinkies
} Senior Lecturer
} SWINBURNE, University of Technology
} Industrial Microscopy
} HAWTHORN, Vic. 3122 - Australia
} hbrinkies-at-swin.edu.au

}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{

Philip Oshel
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From: Barbara Foster :      mme-at-mail.map.com
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 21:42:46 -0500
Subject: Re: High temperature heating in a SEM

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} We project to heat metal alloys up to about 1200 C under mechanical
} constraints in order to observe phase transformation in situ in a MEB.
} In such experimental conditions (heat and light emitted from the sample), I
} guess there will be many problems with the detectors (Everhart-Thornley,
} BSE, EDX, EBSP).
} I ask me if, for this goal, there would be some advantages to work with an
} environnemental MEB (ESEM - gaseous secondary electron detector).
}
} Any kind of experience in this field would of great interest for us.
} Many thanks for your answers.
}
} Monique
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Monique,

Is it necessary that you use electron microscopy? Years ago, when I
worked for Cambridge Instruments (now Leica), we had a vacuum furnace
which fit on an inverted metallograph for just such a purpose. It could
handle temperatures up to 1800 degrees C and had gas inlet/outlets so
that you could purge the chamber with inert gases to minimize secondary
chemical reactions. The chamber, itself, was made by the Reichert part
of the Cambridge family (Austria).

I don't know if it is still produced, but if it would be of use, you
might be able to find one in Europe by contacting the Reichert factory
in Vienna. Norbert Wacht is probably a good technical contact there.

Best of luck!

Barbara Foster
Microscopy/Microscopy Education
53 Eton Street Springfield, MA 01108 USA
PH: (413)746-6931 FX: (413)746-9311 email: mme-at-map.com

DISCLAIMER: We do not sell or have any commercial interest in this
device.




From: Larry Stoter :      LPS-at-teknesis.demon.co.uk
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 07:37:06 +0000
Subject: Re: Ethanol

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} I like to hear of your experience (if any) when placed into a similar
} situation.
}
} For more than 40 years I have been polishing specimens for
snips ...
} polishing with ethanol stopped unless we polish inside a fume
} cupboard and wear gloves.
}
} He even suggested that we issue breathing masks to my students before
} they can polish samples using ethanol.
}
} How would you react to a similar situation ?
}
}
} Hans Brinkies

As an experiment, you could try polishing with high proof vodka. The safety
officer could hardly put that out of bounds:)

Regards,

--
Larry Stoter
17, Rocks Park Road, Uckfield, E. Sussex, TN22 2AT, UK
email: LPS-at-teknesis.demon.co.uk
Phone/Fax: +44 (0)1825 767967






From: Keith Ryan :      KPR-at-WPO.NERC.AC.UK
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 08:55:04 +0000
Subject: Ethanol -Reply

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Hans

I already saw the 'Buy him a drink' message!

That could be a double-edged sword - it is true, I guess, that heavy
exposure by drinking does induce cirrhosis (I can't spell that at this time
of the morning!) of the liver. This could be a long-term strategy for getting
rid of safety officers! Also a 'life-time' of heavy exposure to the vapour
may have the same effect. But come on, where's reality? I have had this
with my opposite number here, who wants to preserve us (admirably)
from the local hospice, yet he drinks a lot!

It is a question of degree and exposure. In the UK, under the Control of
Substances Hazardous to Health Regulations 1994, the Occupational
Exposure Standard is 1000 ppm (1920 mg per cu. m.) averaged over an
8 hour reference period. There is no short-term limit (10 minutes),
implying that it is not a serious hazard. It is possible to buy a Draeger
hand pump and relevant glass tubes containing an indicator to monitor
the air-borne concentration, but I would think that common sense can
prevail! Providing there is some ventilation, exposure should be no more
than that experienced when taking a strong drink!

Keith Ryan
Plymouth Marine Lab, UK




From: Owen P. Mills :      opmills-at-mtu.edu
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 07:34:29 -0500
Subject: Materials - stereo imaging software

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Good morning,

I need to measure the height of {10um volcanic ash particles. Can anyone
recommend software (preferably shareware) that will accurately make these
measurements from a SEM stereo pair? Also, references for relevant
research papers would be appreciated, too.

TIA from Michigan's snowy Upper Peninsula.

Owen




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Michigan Technological University
Metallurgical & Materials Engineering
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Houghton, MI 49931
906-487-2002
906-487-2934 FAX
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From: rgarcia-at-nova.wright.edu
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 08:52:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Ethanol

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Hans,

I checked the MSDS sheet that I have for ethanol and under
Carcinogen Status it says NONE. They may have changed that ruling lately
but you can surf the web for MSDS sites and find one that is more up to
date. Your safety officer may be concerned because it is a solvent. Good
luck trying to straighten this one out.

Roberto Garcia
Electron Microscopy Facility Manager
Wright State University




From: David_Bell-at-Millipore.com
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:42:06 -0400
Subject: Ethanol

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On the more serious side, is it possible that your safety officer has
ethanol and IPA mixed up? According to Fisher's MSDS sheets on line, this
is what they say about Carcinogenicity of various alcohols:


Carcinogenicity:
Ethyl Alcohol -
Not listed by ACGIH, IARC, NIOSH, NTP, or OSHA.
Methyl alcohol -
Not listed by ACGIH, IARC, NIOSH, NTP, or OSHA.
Isopropyl alcohol -
IARC: Group 3 carcinogen

This is taken from the Fisher Scientific website at

http://www.fisher1.com/

I have no connection to fisher.

David

Hans Brinkies wrote:




hbrinkies-at-lucy.cc.swin.edu.au on 11/24/97 04:19:31 AM

To: microscopy-at-Sparc5.Microscopy.Com
cc: (bcc: David Bell)

I like to hear of your experience (if any) when placed into a similar
situation.

For more than 40 years I have been polishing specimens for
metallographic and geological examinations by optical and electron
microscopical methods. Various standard techniques were used in
the past and are still being applied; in addition, I teach my
students these techniques. In may circumstances I also use diamond
paste with ethanol as lubricant.

However, one of our safety officers suddenly 'discovered' that
ethanol has a carcinogenic classification. As a result he wants all
polishing with ethanol stopped unless we polish inside a fume
cupboard and wear gloves.

He even suggested that we issue breathing masks to my students before
they can polish samples using ethanol.

How would you react to a similar situation ?


Hans Brinkies
Senior Lecturer
SWINBURNE, University of Technology
Industrial Microscopy
HAWTHORN, Vic. 3122 - Australia
hbrinkies-at-swin.edu.au








From: Ramin Rahbari 313 998-3383 :      rahbarr-at-aa.wl.com
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:08:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject: methyl salicylate

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I am interested to hear from individuals that have used methyl salicylate (?
conc.) to clarify tissue in particular skin.





From: Vladimir Dusevich :      dusevich-at-ncsu.edu
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:56:26 -0400
Subject: Re: Ethanol

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I got ethanol from AlfaAesar one month ago.
The MSDS says 'Not listed as carcirogen by OSHA, IARC or NTP'. And it's
for the usual mixture of 90% of ethanol, 5% of methyl alcohol and 5%
isopropil alcohol, which is sold under name of ethanol (ethil alcohol)
and wich most of us are using for metallography, microscope cleaning
(but not drinking).
By the way, I have another question conserning ethanol.
In which cases it's preferable to use real 96% ethanol (prohibited for
unauthoriside sale by goverment) and not denaturated alcohol described
above (not in biology)?

Vladimir Dusevich
Senior Analyst
North Carolina State University




From: Vladimir Dusevich :      dusevich-at-ncsu.edu
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:56:26 -0400
Subject: Re: Ethanol

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I got ethanol from AlfaAesar one month ago.
The MSDS says 'Not listed as carcirogen by OSHA, IARC or NTP'. And it's
for the usual mixture of 90% of ethanol, 5% of methyl alcohol and 5%
isopropil alcohol, which is sold under name of ethanol (ethil alcohol)
and wich most of us are using for metallography, microscope cleaning
(but not drinking).
By the way, I have another question conserning ethanol.
In which cases it's preferable to use real 96% ethanol (prohibited for
unauthoriside sale by goverment) and not denaturated alcohol described
above (not in biology)?

Vladimir Dusevich
Senior Analyst
North Carolina State University




From: Edmund Glaser :      eglaser-at-umabnet.ab.umd.edu
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:06:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Supplies for manual stereology

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You should be able to get assistance from MicroBrightField in Colchester
VT. Their phone # is (802) 655 9360 and their email address is
info-at-microbrightfield.com. Their web address is www.microbrightfield.com/.

On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 rgriffin-at-eng.uab.edu wrote:

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} My microscope supplier does not have what I need.
}
} 2) I also need to know where to buy a counter (I have no idea what the
} correct name is!) that allows you to keep track of the number of
} intersections you count in a field placement. These are small
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From: James.Passmore-at-grace.com
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 97 11:12:22 -0500
Subject: RE: Ethanol

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According to my references, effective 5-18-96, ethanol listed on the
ACGIH Carcinogenicity list. However, it's classification code is
A4, or "not classifiable as a human carcinogen." I have no record
of it being listed by any other agency (IARC, NTP, OSHA, NIOSH,
or MAK). I of course can't vouch for the reliability of the data in my
third party database.

Perhaps you should ask your safety officer WHO classified ethanol
as carcinogenic, and check into the accuracy yourself.

Jim Passmore

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From: corwinl-at-pt.cyanamid.com
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 12:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Ethanol

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A similar situation prevailed here for a while: we had to treat
ethanol as a carcinogen because of certain legal requirements related
to its being on an official list of carcinogens or suspect ones
(National Toxicology Program). However, a glimmer of intelligence
appeared somewhere, and it was decided (I use the passive because I
have no idea who) that the carcinogenic activity was related to
excessive ingestion rather than inhalation, and that the inhalation
hazard was similar to other solvents. So it disappeared from the list.

We still have to keep it locked up.


My opinions...
Leonard Corwin
Fort Dodge Animal Health (Analytical Research)
Princeton, NJ 08543-0400 corwinl-at-pt.cyanamid.com





From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:26:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Materials - stereo imaging software

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Dear Owen,

} I need to measure the height of {10um volcanic ash particles. Can anyone
} recommend software (preferably shareware) that will accurately make these
} measurements from a SEM stereo pair? Also, references for relevant
} research papers would be appreciated, too.
}
We have a program called STERECON which does precisely what you
want. It is not shareware (& our version may run only on a mainframe).
There should be many papers with Mike Marko &/or Karolyn Buttle which
use this program, & I can ask them for a list of references. I'm not
sure of the availability of STERECON, but it is always possible to use
it at our place (we're a NIH-funded biotechnological resource).
Yours,
Bill Tivol




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Subject: US Census on 1 CD

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From: corwinl-at-pt.cyanamid.com
Date: 11/23/97 2:18 PM
Subject: Supplies for manual stereology

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For reticles, try McCrone Accessories, 800-622-8122. For counters, any
large scientific supplier, e.g., VWR.

No commercial interest...
My opinions...
Leonard Corwin
Fort Dodge Animal Health (Analytical Research)
Princeton, NJ 08543-0400 corwinl-at-pt.cyanamid.com




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1) Does anyone know where to get special order reticles and graticles?
My microscope supplier does not have what I need.

2) I also need to know where to buy a counter (I have no idea what the
correct name is!) that allows you to keep track of the number of
intersections you count in a field placement. These are small
mechanical devices with a button that increases the counter.

Thanks in advance,

Robin Griffin
UAB Materials and Mechanical Engineering




From: Mark Farmer :      farmer-at-emlab.cb.uga.edu
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:48:53 +0000
Subject: Microscopist Position

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Message-Id: {199711242208.RAA15237-at-emlab.cb.uga.edu}
Comments: Authenticated sender is {farmer-at-emlab.cb.uga.edu}

MICROSCOPIST. The University of Georgia invites applications for the
position of Laboratory Coordinator of the Center for Ultrastructural
Research. As this facility serves both the physical and biological
sciences, familiarity with both disciplines is highly preferred.
Primary responsibilities include assisting faculty and students in the
use of the facility for teaching and research, and overseeing the
upkeep and use of TEM, SEM, Confocal and specimen preparation
facilities, including the analytical SEM (EDX and EBSP). Applicants
should have demonstrated abilities in the field of microscopy with
expertise in SEM, confocal, TEM, fluorescence microscopy and related
techniques. This position is a full-time, 12-month appointment with
full benefits. An M.S. in the biological or physical sciences and a
minimum of three years experience is desired. Interested applicants
should submit a letter of interest, a curriculum vitae, and names of
three professional references to: Mark Farmer, Center for
Ultrastructural Research, 151 Barrow Hall, University of Georgia,
Athens, GA 30602. email: kundell-at-emlab.cb.uga.edu Applications
received before December 31, 1997 will be given full consideration.
The University of Georgia is an Equal Opportunity Employer.




From: Barry Searle :      b.searle-at-unsw.edu.au
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:10:37 +1100
Subject: Microscopist Position

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Ethanol - no it should have been SVR.

Mix with 500 g sugar + water 800 mL + alcohol about 800 mL + 1 mL pepermint
oil gives a nice drop of liquer after aging - but perhaps could be a health
hazard.

Regards

Barry





From: shAf :      mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:49:01 -0800
Subject: Metallography: inclusions in Al

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We are examining inclusions in polished aluminium metal with SEM/EDX,
and besides a small amount of naturally common oxides we are also seeing
5 to 15 uM diameter inclusions of SiC (... positively ID'd with u-probe
...).
I am now re-polishing with 30uM diamond having skipped the grit stages
and when I get to 6uM diamond I start seeing these inclusions. Can
anyone imagine a possible source for these???

TIA and cheerios, shAf
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From: wise-at-vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:04:43 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Question: high pressure freezing

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Dear biological ultrastructuralists,

I have a series of related questions that probably have no easy answers,
but I'd like some input none-the-less.

Given that high pressure freezing (HPF) and freeze substitution (FS) have
been shown to provide superior fixation of biological structures in a
number of studies, of what value are other fixation techniques to modern
scientific inquiry? Should studies using conventional chemical fixation
(CCF), microwave fixation, propane jet freezing, plunge freezing, or any
preparation technique other than HPF/FS be pursued? Is there any concensus
in the scientific community on which systems, organelles, or structures can
be adequately fixed with CCF and which require HPF/FS? If so, what
criteria do we use in deciding whether or not a particular fixation
protocol is "good enough"? I have read Crang and Klomparens (Artifacts in
Biological EM) but have not been able to find answers to such questions.

This issue interests me from more than a mere philosophical perspective. I
recently had a paper rejected solely because I used conventional chemical
fixation and not HPF/FS (although both reviewers thought that the subject
matter was well worthy of investigation, and one recommended acceptance).
My access to a high pressure freezer is both limited and inconvenient so
conducting HPF studies is no trivial matter (and I suspect this is true for
most of the other biological microscopists on this list).

What's a scientist to do?

Bob

Dr. Robert R. Wise
Department of Biology and Microbiology
University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
Oshkosh, WI 54901

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(920) 424-1101 fax
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From: Lisa Olivia :      LOlivia-at-FEICO.COM
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:53:56 -0600
Subject: Job Openings at FEI

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Hello:

Please post the following positions on the MSA's Listserver. Thank you.
_____________________________________________________________

TITLE: Scientist, Electron Optics, FEI Company, Hillsboro, Oregon
DEPT: Components R&D
REPORTS TO: Columns R&D Director

1) Job Summary:

Primarily works on projects requiring knowledge of beam technology and
electron optics calculation capability. This is an intermediate level
non-supervisory engineering/scientist position. It may involve some
project leadership, but does not include management or supervision of a
permanent or established organizational unit.

2) Position Objectives And Major Responsibilities:

a) Perform electron optical calculations to support design of electron
and ion focusing columns, primarily using point sources (LMIS, Schottky
emitters).

b) Perform electron optical calculations to support the design of high
speed beam blanking, deflection and mass filters associated with such
columns.

c) Perform and/or supervise experimental measurements of the performance
of electron and ion columns. Determine if the measurements support the
theoretical calculations.

d) Develop new experimental techniques to prove column performance.

3) SECONDARY RESPONSIBILITIES:

a) Maintain and upgrade electron optical calculation capability

b) Support marketing and sales with calculations for present products
and future possible products.

c) Contribute to group understanding of HV, vacuum, mechanical,
materials and particle beam technologies by interaction with group
members and attendance at professional conferences and short courses.
Distribute knowledge through in-house seminars.

d) Support customers with calculations for various methods of operating
columns.


4) Minimum Education And Experience:

a) Advanced degree in physics or engineering (MS or PhD).

b) Familiarity with electron and/or ion focusing column design

c) Familiarity with experimental techniques associated with electron
and/or ion beam characterization.

d) Experience with numerical methods for electronmagnetic field
calculations.

e) Due to possibility of travel, must be able to obtain a passport.

5) Additional Desirable Qualifications:

a) Familiar with high brightness field emission electron and ion
sources.

b) Familiar with UHV design.

c) Familiar with high voltage breakdown phenomena.

d) Familiar with surface physics and analysis techniques.

Interested candidates should either:
Email: to Lisa Olivia at lolivia-at-feico.com
FAX: to Lisa Olivia at 503-640-7509
Mail: to Lisa Olivia at FEI Company, 7451 N.W. Evergreen Parkway,
Hillsboro, OR 97124
______________________________________________________________


FEI Company, Hillsboro, Oregon

Position Title: Electrical Engineering Manager

Job Duties/Responsibilities: (Functional Manager) Establish written
electrical engineering standards and procedures which are consistent
with those used throughout FEI and which can meet ISO standards.
Support New Product Development teams by providing leadership, timely
planning, schedule updates, design, documentation, and support to the
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From: George Sibbald :      geos-at-goldrush.com (by way of Nestor J. Zaluzec)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 19:39:18 -0600
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Does anyone know of a good source of skin tissue (epitheal cell) samples
that would be suitable for in situ molecular imaging of transdermic
medication, application of creams and ointments, etc?

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From: Vachik Hacopian :      vhacopian-at-wellesley.edu
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 21:32:08 -0500
Subject: Re: confocal 2 cents

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} } I would be interested in hearing opinions about the features
} } that microscopists consider essential on a new purchase of a confocal
} } microscope for biological work.
} }
} } Which scopes do you consider worthy, user friendly, cost efficient
} } and the best quality optically ? Are there any features or scopes
} } that have proved, in use, not to perform up to expectations ?
} } I would welcome input from users and vendors.
} } Thanks,
} } Linda M. Fox

} Our lab is also thinking of purchasing a confocal. I'd love to be
} included in this discussion if it goes to private mail.
} Paul Tiseo

Please count me in, too.

Vachik Hacopian






From: r.g.white-at-sci.monash.edu.au (Rosemary White)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 14:04:14 +1200
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Dear Bob and others,

This is a serious question. Like Bob, we had some difficulty getting a
paper accepted recently because we had used conventional chemical fixation,
even though in a previous paper on a very similar topic (immuno-EM of
cytoskeleton) we showed that the density of antibody label (5 nm gold) was
very similar in chem fixed and rapid (plunge) frozen/freeze sub (RF/FS)
material. The only difference between chem fix and RF/FS was in the
density of background label, which was lower in RF/FS. At the time we did
the more recent work, we did not have access to RF/FS apparatus, and felt
that the considerable extra time required to get the almost identical
results on RF/FS material was not warranted.

I certainly do not deny that RF/FS gives superior preservation, but with
some larger tissues when you are looking at structures/cells deep in the
tissue and do not want to induce artefacts due to cutting the tissue,
chemical and other non-freezing methods are the only way to go. We deal
with plant tissues, which have severe freezing damage at the EM level below
about 20 or so =B5m in plunge frozen material, and below maybe 40 or so =B5m=
in
high pressure frozen (HPF) material (can get much deeper preservation in
certain tissues). THe quality of preservation is extremely variable at the
EM level, and you have to section through lots of material, even after
processing using automated apparatus, in order to get cells with minimal
ice damage. I guess what we need to know is what are the consistent
artefacts induced by chemical or other non-freezing fixation, and can we
take these into account and still get useful information from this work.

Now for light microscope work, esp. immunofluorescence (at least of plant
tissues), RF/FS is great, giving consistently superior preservation and
antigenicity than after chemical fixation, even for large tissues.

Re. HPF - there are some consistent, worrying artefacts. In HPF/FS plant
material, the ER always seems to look "blown up" like little sausages or
balloons, and the ER membrane is often almost impossible to see. Is this
effect seen in animal tissues processed in this way? Other work has shown
that a tubular membrane network, seen after RF/FS (plunging or slamming),
was broken into a series of vesicles by HPF/FS. Unsupported membranes seem
to be a problem.

So I guess you have to argue your case each time. We are currently
spending some time doing a useful if somewhat tedious study comparing
various fixation methods with RF/FS and HPF/FS for just this reason. It is
important because the fine ultrastructure of some cell structures is still
contentious, and we need to know if differences reported by different
groups are due to various fixation artefacts or to differences in species
used, tissue type, etc.

I would also be interested to hear of others' experiences and opinions.

regards,

Rosemary


Rosemary White
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Monash University, Melbourne, Victoria 3168, Australia
phone 61-3-9905 5670
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From: Heinz Fehrenbach :      hefeh-at-Rcs1.urz.tu-dresden.de
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 09:42:44 +0100
Subject: Re: Question: high pressure freezing

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}
} Dear biological ultrastructuralists,
}
} I have a series of related questions that probably have no easy answers,
} but I'd like some input none-the-less.
}
} Given that high pressure freezing (HPF) and freeze substitution (FS) have
} been shown to provide superior fixation of biological structures in a
} number of studies, of what value are other fixation techniques to modern
} scientific inquiry? Should studies using conventional chemical fixation
} (CCF), microwave fixation, propane jet freezing, plunge freezing, or any
} preparation technique other than HPF/FS be pursued? Is there any concensus
} in the scientific community on which systems, organelles, or structures can
} be adequately fixed with CCF and which require HPF/FS? If so, what
} criteria do we use in deciding whether or not a particular fixation
} protocol is "good enough"? I have read Crang and Klomparens (Artifacts in
} Biological EM) but have not been able to find answers to such questions.
}
} This issue interests me from more than a mere philosophical perspective. I
} recently had a paper rejected solely because I used conventional chemical
} fixation and not HPF/FS (although both reviewers thought that the subject
} matter was well worthy of investigation, and one recommended acceptance).
} My access to a high pressure freezer is both limited and inconvenient so
} conducting HPF studies is no trivial matter (and I suspect this is true for
} most of the other biological microscopists on this list).
}
} What's a scientist to do?
}
} Bob
}
} Dr. Robert R. Wise
} Department of Biology and Microbiology
} University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
} Oshkosh, WI 54901
}
} (920) 424-3404 tel
} (920) 424-1101 fax
} wise-at-uwosh.edu
} www.uwosh.edu/departments/biology/wise/wise.html



Hello Robert,

I think - although I did not yet have the opportunity to experience it -
high pressure freezing (HPF) followed by freeze substitution (SF) is a
technique that provides most excellent results. However, it is also one of
the most highly sophisticated techniques - not to mention the costs of
high pressure freezer (in Germany about 250 000.- DM) and substitution
unit (about 50 000.- DM), roughly estimated.

As with every technique, it has its limitations. And reminding what I have
seen in the literature, the most severe restriction is that you need very
small sample sizes (see e.g. Hohenberg et al. J. Microscopy Vol.175: 34-43,
1994). Largest samples sizes are 400 micron in thickness reported to be well
preserved (e.g. Studer et al., Scanning Microsc. Vol.3: 253-69, 1989).

So what to doe if the specimen of interest is larger than 400 micron ?

If you cut it down to pieces of that small size, you have to face the problem
that this induces alterations in ultrastructure that will increase severely
with time until fixation. From a microanalytical point of view, Thomas von Zglinicki (J. Microsc. Vol.141:79-90, 1986) has shown that stopping blood flow
for more than 10 s (!!) results in ion shifts between cells and extracellular
space in rat heart and liver. And there is also a stereological paper that I
cannot find at the moment which describes changes within a short period of
time after death of the experimental animal.

If you use cryosnappers or other devices to cryofix small samples in situ
with the blood still flowing, you have to face the problem that you may only
reach the cortex of your object of interest - but what to do if your are
interested in the ultrastructure of the medulla ? Further, you will be able
to collect only a limited number of samples - is this collection representative
of your object or is it a rather biased collection (see sterelogy literature -
e.g. Exp. Physiol. Vol.76:639-65, 1991; J. Anatomy Vol.188,1-15, 1996) ?
If you are looking for differences between groups of animals (developmental
stages, treatments etc.) your comparison may rely on excellently preserved
ultrastructure, but you will not be able to exclude that the differences seen
between groups are due to the biasedness of your sample collection.

So I conclude that for most purposes conventional chemical fixation still
has its merits, and is frequently the only way to obtain any ultrastructural
data.

I will not accept that HPF/SF has to be performed in any study of biological
material.


Heinz


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From: L.D.Marks :      ldm2-at-apollo.numis.nwu.edu
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 06:59:57 -0600 (CST )
Subject: Penrose Tiling in 2D

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Does anyone have a good reference about how to do
a two-dimensional Penrose Tiling as in Decagonal
Quasicrystals?

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From: Ana Maria Gennaro :      agennaro-at-intec.unl.edu.ar
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:52:46 -0800 (PST)
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I am buying a Carl Zeiss transmission trinocular microscope
with a video camera. I asked the seller to include an adaptor
ring, just in the case we can gather some more money to
buy a photo camera in the future.
The seller asks me to specify a trademark, because the ring is
specific for each camera. I am completely ignorant about this
facts, so I am asking for your advice.

In short: what do you consider the best camera relating
cost/performance, so as to order the corresponding adaptor?
We intend to photograph
erythrocytes submitted to strain, and also crystalline samples.

Thank you very much in advance for any help you may give to me.

Ana
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From: Scott Holt :      102467.2752-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:31:29 -0500
Subject: Metallography: inclusions in Aluminum

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Michael Shaffer asked about possible sources of
SiC contamination in polished aluminum samples.

Michael,
You mentioned that originally you found
SiC after using SiC papers and you positively
identified these particles using microprobe. Then
you stated that you switched to diamond, eliminating
the SiC papers from the procedure. Did you then
do microprobe analysis again? The reason I ask is
that embedded diamond particles and SiC particles
do look very similar in bright field LOM. In addition,
diamond does polish diamond, and you may be seeing
a flat face on the particles, therefore assuming
they are SiC.

If you have possitively identified this second batch
of particles as SiC, and there is no possibility of these
particles coming from the melt, then I would have to
suggest that contamination from the polishing system
may be the culprit. (Time to clean the lab).

Good luck and Best regards,

Scott D. Holt
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From: Arthur Schuessler :      schueslr-at-sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:48:53 +0100
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Dear People,
since I originated the discussion I also want to add, what is our need for
high pressure freezing.
It is NOT the ultrastructure alone in our case, we want to do high
resolution ( {= 1 micron) resolution element mappings AND quantification.
The probelm is, that this is a resolution already disturbed by ice
crystals. On the other hand, if HPF is limited to 40-400 microns (one
probably has to try?), it is at the limit also for things like roots - if
not Arabidopsis ;-).
However there will probably be much less ice damage and thus more
information - if it will be possible to cut the samples frozen or if freeze
substitution itself causes not to many loss (or REDISTRIBUTION) of material.
A lot of problems I think, but therefore one probably should use the best
method.
However, who is able to pay it...
Arthur

Dr. Arthur Schuessler
University of Heidelberg
Zellenlehre
Im Neuenheimer Feld 230
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From: Stephen A. Shaffer :      sshaffer-at-microdataware.com
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 09:02:06 -0800
Subject: Re: LM - searching advice about adaptor rings...

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Ana Maria Gennaro wrote:

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} I am buying a Carl Zeiss transmission trinocular microscope
} with a video camera. I asked the seller to include an adaptor
} ring, just in the case we can gather some more money to
} buy a photo camera in the future.
} The seller asks me to specify a trademark, because the ring is
} specific for each camera. I am completely ignorant about this
} facts, so I am asking for your advice.
}
} In short: what do you consider the best camera relating
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} We intend to photograph
} erythrocytes submitted to strain, and also crystalline samples.
}
} Thank you very much in advance for any help you may give to me.
}
} Ana
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Ana, in your present circumstances (unsure what to buy, not ready to buy
now, etc.) the best course is to maximize your future compatibility with
minimal current expenditure (that might be made useless by the emergence of
new equipment or standards). Ask your Zeiss Rep to provide two couplings:
For 35 mm film photography ask for a standard "T-Mount" adapter on the
microscope. For video micrography or digital photomicrography, as for a
standard "C-Mount" adapter. You can later get a T-Mount adapter for
virtually any 35 mm camera you buy which will mate with the one on the
microscope. Similarly, most digital and video cameras come with a C-Mount
thread which should mate directly to the one on the microscope. When you
shop for a video or digital camera, be sure that it has a removable lens and
a standard C-Mount thread so that you can mount your own lenses or the
adapter to the microscope easily.

Hope this helps.

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Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:37:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: need information

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Hi, there,

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From: Snow, David B. :      snowdb-at-pweh.com
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 14:00:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Metallography: inclusions in Al

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All,

if you are interested in this workshop please respond directly to
Xavier Llovet {xavier-at-giga.sct.ub.es} , who is *not* subscribed to the
microscopy list. 1 USD = about 125 pesetas.

regards, YM.

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shAf:

Please pardon the simplicity of these suggestions, as you may have
thought of
them already....

1. Could the SiC be intrinsic to your specimen? There is more DRA Al
alloy in
the world today than people realize. "DRA" is "Directionally
Reinforced
Aluminum;" the usual reinforcement is SiC particles. Have you thought
of
electropolishing your specimen surface deeply enough to access
unaltered
material, then checking for SiC particles on that surface with
SEM+EDXS,
or EMP?

2, Are SiC particles still being introduced during grinding/polishing
as a
contaminant within the nap, or on the surface, of one or more of your
diamond
wheels?

Dave Snow

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From: ejb11-at-psu.edu (Edward J. Basgall)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 14:20:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Question: high pressure freezing

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} Given that high pressure freezing (HPF) and freeze substitution (FS) have
} been shown to provide superior fixation of biological structures in a
} number of studies, of what value are other fixation techniques to modern
} scientific inquiry? Should studies using conventional chemical fixation
} (CCF), microwave fixation, propane jet freezing, plunge freezing, or any
} preparation technique other than HPF/FS be pursued? Is there any concensus
} in the scientific community on which systems, organelles, or structures can
} be adequately fixed with CCF and which require HPF/FS? If so, what
} criteria do we use in deciding whether or not a particular fixation
} protocol is "good enough"?

} What's a scientist to do?
}
} Bob
}
} Dr. Robert R. Wise
} Department of Biology and Microbiology
} University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
} Oshkosh, WI 54901

Hi Bob,
I've had to address this question recently while assisting a colleague with
a grant proposal. It is true that the HPF/FS is a superior combination
technique regarding the preservation of antigenicity and ultrastructure for
many tissues both plant and animal. If only every lab had a HPF device....
But......FWIW

HPF and FS are not without their own artifacts and pitfalls. HPF is most
useful for freezing easily accessed, small samples no larger than ~1mm dia
due to sample holder constraints. Not every sample can fit this
requirement. Conventional chemical fixation still is a viable
stabilization means, depending upon what you are ultimately investigating.


My position is to always, if possible, use multiple fixation techniques on
duplicate samples. If there is a question regarding possible artifact or
interpretation of a non-conventional sample then one has an alternate
sample or samples to query. Besides, as you mention equipment
accessibility is also an issue.

I'm not absolutely convinced that the "number of studies" indicating
superior fixation with HPF/FS constitues an absolute criteria to abandon
all other fixation methods. If it's available by all means use it but I
would want to keep conventionally fixed backup samples in reserve, just in
case. The most important step is the initial treatment of the sample. In
any protocol something can always go awry.

In my opinion, there are still too few comparative studies to adequately
come to a consensus. My bottom line is: It depends on what I am trying to
demonstrate, what resolution level I need and
what means are available to me.

cheers
ed

Edward J. Basgall, PhD
The Pennsylvania State University
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Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 14:29:03 -0500
Subject: Instrument Collage

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Dear Folks,
I am looking for an image (electronic, hard copy etc.) of a collage of
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Dear Folks,
I am looking for an image (electronic, hard copy etc.) of a collage of
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From: George Sibbald :      geos-at-goldrush.com
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:48:01 -0700
Subject: Re: Question: high pressure freezing

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Dear Molecular Biologists

This discussion raises the question of why freeze?

Is this the bastion of SEM?

Or are many molecular biologists not aware of in situ Molecular Imaging
biological samples at 37 C?

George

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From: shAf
Date: Monday, November 24, 1997 2:49PM
Subject: Metallography: inclusions in Al

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My guess would definitely be the grinding media. Aluminum, being so
soft, is certainly a likely candidate for embedded grinding media.

Honey Nut Cheerios,
Harry


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We are examining inclusions in polished aluminium metal with SEM/EDX,
and besides a small amount of naturally common oxides we are also seeing
5 to 15 uM diameter inclusions of SiC (... positively ID'd with u-probe
...).
I am now re-polishing with 30uM diamond having skipped the grit stages
and when I get to 6uM diamond I start seeing these inclusions. Can
anyone imagine a possible source for these???

TIA and cheerios, shAf
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Michael Shaffer, R.A. - University of Oregon Electron Probe Facility
mshaf-at-oregon.uoregon.edu -or- mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~mshaf/






From: Kalman Rubinson :      rubinsnk-at-is2.nyu.edu
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:44:19 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: LM - searching advice about adaptor rings...

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On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Ana Maria Gennaro wrote:

} I am buying a Carl Zeiss transmission trinocular microscope
} with a video camera. I asked the seller to include an adaptor
} ring, just in the case we can gather some more money to
} buy a photo camera in the future.
} The seller asks me to specify a trademark, because the ring is
} specific for each camera. I am completely ignorant about this
} facts, so I am asking for your advice.
}
} In short: what do you consider the best camera relating
} cost/performance, so as to order the corresponding adaptor?
} We intend to photograph
} erythrocytes submitted to strain, and also crystalline samples.

The question also depends on what type of camera you are considering: a
standard SLR body or a dedicated auto/manual microscope camera.

Kal





From: Doug Keene :      DRK-at-shcc.org
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 20:42:04 -0600 (cst)
Subject: Re: Question: high pressure freezing

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Regarding ultrastructure revealed by cryopreservation vs
chemical fixation:

We have also struggled with this issue in our laboratory.
We have been fortunate to prepare several types of
connective tissue by HPF and indeed, the ultrastructure in
well frozen areas is VERY different from that following
chemical fixation and also microwave processing. For
example, when viewing basement membranes, we and other
laboratories have noticed an immense difference in
ultrastructure. The region termed lamina densa is
determined to be an artifact, probably caused by the
precipitation of the many concentrated molecules present in
this general region which are involved in the adhesion of
epithelium to CT. The lamina lucida is also a fixation
artifact, arising as the epithelial cell shrinks away from
the underlying CT matrix. These are examples of serious
artifacts directly attributable to chemical processing
which one does not see in well frozen tissue. However,
interestingly, there are several structures which may be
seen in chemically processed tissue are generally not visible
in cryoprocessed tissue. Ironically, if we had started out
using cryoprocessing, we might not know of the existence of
these structures. Two fiber systems in the CT matrix come
to mind. Anchoring fibrils, which "staple" the epithelium
onto the underlying CT; another are matrix microfibrils,
which ensheathe elastin bundles. The concentration of
proteoglycans in the matrix is so dense (and well retained
by HPF) that these structures are virtually invisible
(masked by such a high PG concentration). These
proteoglycans are extracted in most chemical fixation
protocols, allowing the visualization of anchoring fibrils
and microfibrils. The lack of anchoring fibrils causes a
severe blistering disease, and the defect of a microfibril
component called fibrillin results in Marfans syndrome.

It is currently unrealistic for all Investigators to
examine tissue by HPF. It is technically difficult, very
expensive and quite time consuming to find well frozen
areas. However, we should all be aware of the structure
revealed by cryopreservation methodology so that we might
most adequately be aware of the artifacts present in the
tissues we examine.
----------------------
Doug Keene
Director EM
Portland Shriners Hospital
DRK-at-shcc.org






From: Kenneth Converse :      qualityimages-at-netrax.net
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 19:18:07 -0800
Subject: Re: Metallography: inclusions in Al

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} We are examining inclusions in polished aluminium metal with SEM/EDX,
} and besides a small amount of naturally common oxides we are also seeing
} 5 to 15 uM diameter inclusions of SiC (... positively ID'd with u-probe
} ...).
} I am now re-polishing with 30uM diamond having skipped the grit stages
} and when I get to 6uM diamond I start seeing these inclusions. Can
} anyone imagine a possible source for these???
}
} TIA and cheerios, shAf
} --
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} http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~mshaf/

I would u probe my 6u "diamond" just to be sure, especially since it
"shows up" after a 6u diamond polish.

Ken Converse
owner
Quality Images
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From: South Bay Technology :      Henriks-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:49:25 -0500
Subject: M-Bond 610

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From: Kenneth Converse :      qualityimages-at-netrax.net
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 19:33:20 -0800
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} I just filled out an electronic subscription form for membership to
} listserver, but about 10 minutes ago sent an e-mail with two position
} openings my company has. I sent the email with the jobs before I
} subscribed. I want to make sure that since I did this backwards that
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} know if I have to resend? Thank you.
Yup,
They got out.

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From: Barbara Foster :      mme-at-mail.map.com
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 21:33:23 -0500
Subject: Re: LM - searching advice about adaptor rings...

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Ana Maria Gennaro wrote:
}
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} I am buying a Carl Zeiss transmission trinocular microscope
} with a video camera. I asked the seller to include an adaptor
} ring, just in the case we can gather some more money to
} buy a photo camera in the future.
} The seller asks me to specify a trademark, because the ring is
} specific for each camera. I am completely ignorant about this
} facts, so I am asking for your advice.
}
} In short: what do you consider the best camera relating
} cost/performance, so as to order the corresponding adaptor?
} We intend to photograph
} erythrocytes submitted to strain, and also crystalline samples.
}
} Thank you very much in advance for any help you may give to me.
}
} Ana
} _________________________________________________________________
}
} Ana Maria Gennaro Grupo de Fisica- INTEC
}
} Home address: Sarmiento 6602 Work address: INTEC - Guemes 3450
} 3000 - Santa Fe 3000 - Santa Fe
} Argentina Argentina
} Phone: 54-42-606764 Phone: 54-42-559175/6/7
} Fax: 54-42-550944
}
} _________________________________________________________________
}
}
Dear Ana,

The type of camera you purchase depends on a number of parameters.
First, you need to decide if you want to rely on regular photography or
to investigate videomicroscopy. For




From: Yves Maniette :      yves-at-giga.sct.ub.es
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:49:51 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Re: need information

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Measurements Group.****************************************************

Tel 1 919 365 3800
Fax 1 919 365 3945

P.O. BOX 27777
Raleigh, North Carolina, 27611 USA.

International customer service specialist: Marsha GAYHARDT (09 95).

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} My friend need a glue for sectional TEM specimen
} preparation. I could not find a easy way to contact
} the company listed following. If you happen to know
} the phone Num. and/or email address of this company,
} please send me an email.
}
} Thanks
}
} ***************************************************
} M:M M-LINE accessories
} measurements group, INC., RALEIGH, N.C.
} M-BOND 610 ADHESIVE KIT CONTENTS:4 Unmixed,
} Premeasured Units
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From: jd :      wa5ekh-at-cyberramp.net
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 03:56:04 -0800
Subject: Light Microscopes and Temperature Control Stages

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It has been a few years since I have been involved with temperature control
stages on optical microscopes. Last I remember there were issues such as
surface area temperature mapping(variations) functions, isolation, target
range overshooting, steady state vs. drift functions, heating and cooling
techniques, depth of focus and other optical issues, maximum and minimum
feasible temperatures, heating and cooling techniques, etc. Can anyone
refresh my memory , bring me up to date ,and refer me to journal and review
articles on the subject.
I would like references to current manufacturers. Also I would be
interested in personal experiences with specific current equipment
manufacturers of both microscopes and control stages for this use
(preferably any potentially negative feedback opinions sent only to my
personal email address below, so no manufacturer is embarrassed or damaged
by personal opinions in this forum/possibly an obvious point of
controversy).
Finally does anyone have any personal experience with modifications to
existing designs or references to in house construction of these devices.
I also might be prospect for use equipment of this nature.

JD
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From: labsoft :      labsoft-at-ikp.atm.com.pl
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:51:04 +0100
Subject: Hermes sandpaper...

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Dear microscopists - metallografists

We would appreciate any info about possible source in Europe of buying
regularly all ranges of sandpaper
made by German company named HERMES. The best would be manufacturers
direct contact.
...or other manufacturer of round shaped (230 mm, 300mm) selfadhesive,
waterproof sandpaper.

kind regards

Krzysztof M. Herman
LabSoft S.c. 05-500 Piaseczno, 21 Kosciuszki Str., Poland
tel/fax: (48 22) 7502024, 7502028, 7570671, mobile: (48 90)213438
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From: Andy GRIGG [Genito-Urinary Medicine] :      a.grigg-at-ic.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 14:38:44 +0000
Subject: UV Microscopy filters

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I am intending to examine cells treated with an acridine-linked DNA
oligonucleotide via UV microscopy. If possible I would like any information
you may have regarding the filter sets I will require.
Any help would be gratefully received.
_______________________________________________
Andrew GRIGG
Genito-Urinary Medicine
Imperial College School of Medicine (St.Mary's)
Norfolk Place, LONDON W2 1PG
Email: a.grigg-at-ic.ac.uk
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From: garyliechty-at-worldnet.att.net
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:15:30 -0800
Subject: Re: need information

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SUI-at-rhoda.lbl.gov wrote:
}
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} Hi, there,
}
} My friend need a glue for sectional TEM specimen
} preparation. I could not find a easy way to contact
} the company listed following. If you happen to know
} the phone Num. and/or email address of this company,
} please send me an email.
}
} Thanks
}
} ***************************************************
} M:M M-LINE accessories
} measurements group, INC., RALEIGH, N.C.
} M-BOND 610 ADHESIVE KIT CONTENTS:4 Unmixed,
} Premeasured Units
} ***************************************************
}
} Sui
}
} * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
} * Haixin Sui, Ph.D * Phone: (510)486-6597 (o) *
} * 112 Donner Lab. * (510)528-0918 (h) *
} * Lawrence Berkeley Lab. * Fax : (510)486-6488 *
} * One Cyclotron Road * Email: sui-at-rhoda.lbl.gov *
} * Berkeley, CA 94720 * sui-at-peter.lbl.gov *
} * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Dear Dr. Sui,

You can purchase the M-Bond 610 from us, or call MicroMeasurements
Group at (919) 365-3800.

I hope this helps.


Sincerely,

Gary Liechty
Product Application Specialist
Allied High Tech Products, Inc.




From: wcornell-at-centum.utulsa.edu (Winton Cornell)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 11:45:27 -0600
Subject: Li analysis - by EDS?

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Listers:

My problem: a Li-Co-Oxide deposited on Al was submitted as an "unknown" to
a local analytical lab. Outfitted with an SEM and an EDS capable of light
element characterization, the lab reported back an analysis without any Li.


Examination of the printout of the spectrum shows a peak centered at very
low keV (Li k-alpha is at 0.05391 keV). This low-energy peak apparently was
not "characterized" during the peak analysis routine. As plotted (energy
scale is from 0-10 keV), the peak is truncated on its low-energy side, thus
only about 3/4 of the peak is displayed.

My question has two parts:

1. is Li amenable to analysis by EDS?, and, if Li is amenable to such,

2. is the lack of Li in the analysis due to the inability of the peaking
routine to 'identify' (quantify) a peak which is not fully displayed? (to
fully display the peak, the energy scale would have to begin at approx.
-0.5 keV).

Winton Cornell

P.S. the analysis shows 'good' results for O, low Al (as hoped, because the
substrate was nicely coated), significant carbon (because of the carbon
coating), no Li, and 'low' Co........all in all, not a 'good', or
representative analysis as far as we're concerned


Dr. Winton Cornell
Senior Research Associate & Supervisor, Microanalysis Laboratory
Department of Geosciences
The University of Tulsa
600 South College
Tulsa, OK 74104-3189

phone: 918-631-3248
fax: 918-631-2091
e-mail: wcornell-at-centum.utulsa.edu






From: nancy buening :      buening-at-topaz.ucdavis.edu
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:30:25 -0700
Subject: TEM "Glue"

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I am analyzing calcite shells in the TEM. I am having difficulty gluing the
calcite samples onto the grid. I have been using colloidal silver liquid,
but it either dries before I can get the calcite in place or I get too much
liquid and the grid "drowns". Is this just a matter of practice, or is
there another gluing material that I can try that is more forgiving ?

Thanks.

Nancy Buening

Nancy Buening E-mail: buening-at-geology.ucdavis.edu
Department of Geology Phone: (530) 752-0350
University of California Fax: 530 752-0951
Davis, CA 95616

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From: John F. Mansfield :      jfmjfm-at-umich.edu
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 13:42:23 -0500
Subject: Apertures for 2000FX

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Hi there we are looking for a very small objective aperture for our JEOL
2000FX. Since these apertures come in strips there is a limited selection
and the "standard" set comes with a 20micorn aperture as the smallest. We
can get a 10micron from JEOL, does anyone know of a smaller one say
5microns?
I have not called all of the Microscope Spares and Equipment suppliers yet,
I thought I would solicit commnets for the community. Many thanks.
Reply by email and I will summarize to the list if there is sufficient
interest and response.

Cheers

Jfm.


John Mansfield
North Campus Electron Microbeam Analysis Laboratory
417 SRB, University of Michigan
2455 Hayward, Ann Arbor MI 48109-2143
Phone: (313) 936-3352 FAX (313) 936-3352
Cellular Phone: (313) 715-2510
(Leaving a phone message at 936-3352 is preferable to 715-2510)
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From: wcornell
Date: Wednesday, November 26, 1997 11:45AM
Subject: Li analysis - by EDS?

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It's not possible to analyze for Li in a normal bulk sample. To generate a
K-alpha x-ray, you need an electron transition from the 2p to the 1s state.
If you look at the periodic table, Li has only a single 2s electron. You
can't have a 2s to 1s transition because the x-ray has 1 h/(2*pi) of angular
momentum and this transition would violate conservation of angular momentum.


The peak that you see at that low energy is low energy noise.

-Scott

Scott D. Walck
PPG Industries, Inc.
Guys Run Rd. (packages)
P.O. Box 11472 (letters)
Pittsburgh, PA 15238-0472

(412) 820-8651 (office)
(412) 820-8161 (fax)


"The opinions expressed are those of S.D. Walck and not of PPG Industries,
Inc. nor of any PPG-associated companies."




----------
-----------------------------------------------------------------------.

Listers:

My problem: a Li-Co-Oxide deposited on Al was submitted as an "unknown" to
a local analytical lab. Outfitted with an SEM and an EDS capable of light
element characterization, the lab reported back an analysis without any Li.


Examination of the printout of the spectrum shows a peak centered at very
low keV (Li k-alpha is at 0.05391 keV). This low-energy peak apparently was
not "characterized" during the peak analysis routine. As plotted (energy
scale is from 0-10 keV), the peak is truncated on its low-energy side, thus
only about 3/4 of the peak is displayed.

My question has two parts:

1. is Li amenable to analysis by EDS?, and, if Li is amenable to such,

2. is the lack of Li in the analysis due to the inability of the peaking
routine to 'identify' (quantify) a peak which is not fully displayed? (to
fully display the peak, the energy scale would have to begin at approx.
-0.5 keV).

Winton Cornell

P.S. the analysis shows 'good' results for O, low Al (as hoped, because the
substrate was nicely coated), significant carbon (because of the carbon
coating), no Li, and 'low' Co........all in all, not a 'good', or
representative analysis as far as we're concerned


Dr. Winton Cornell
Senior Research Associate & Supervisor, Microanalysis Laboratory
Department of Geosciences
The University of Tulsa
600 South College
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From: Warren Straszheim :      wesaia-at-iastate.edu
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 14:05:08 -0600
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Our Link Isis system has a "zero strobe" peak which occurs at 0.0 kV. Since
it is not indicative of anything in the sample, we usually cut it off when
we plot our spectra. Our spectra pretty well tail off at 0.1 kV and the zero
strobe runs up to 0.1 kV under our conditions.
So no, Li could not be handled with our detector, as good as it is. There
seem to be some experimental detectors on their way that could do Li, but I
doubt that your service lab was running one of them.

At 11:45 AM 11/26/97 -0600, you wrote:
} Listers:
}
} My problem: a Li-Co-Oxide deposited on Al was submitted as an "unknown" to
} a local analytical lab. Outfitted with an SEM and an EDS capable of light
} element characterization, the lab reported back an analysis without any Li.
}
}
} Examination of the printout of the spectrum shows a peak centered at very
} low keV (Li k-alpha is at 0.05391 keV). This low-energy peak apparently was
} not "characterized" during the peak analysis routine. As plotted (energy
} scale is from 0-10 keV), the peak is truncated on its low-energy side, thus
} only about 3/4 of the peak is displayed.
}
} My question has two parts:
}
} 1. is Li amenable to analysis by EDS?, and, if Li is amenable to such,
}
} 2. is the lack of Li in the analysis due to the inability of the peaking
} routine to 'identify' (quantify) a peak which is not fully displayed? (to
} fully display the peak, the energy scale would have to begin at approx.
} -0.5 keV).
}
} Winton Cornell
}
} P.S. the analysis shows 'good' results for O, low Al (as hoped, because the
} substrate was nicely coated), significant carbon (because of the carbon
} coating), no Li, and 'low' Co........all in all, not a 'good', or
} representative analysis as far as we're concerned
}
}
} Dr. Winton Cornell
} Senior Research Associate & Supervisor, Microanalysis Laboratory
} Department of Geosciences
} The University of Tulsa
} 600 South College
} Tulsa, OK 74104-3189
}
} phone: 918-631-3248
} fax: 918-631-2091
} e-mail: wcornell-at-centum.utulsa.edu
}
}
}
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From: Vladimir Dusevich :      dusevich-at-ncsu.edu
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 16:32:52 -0400
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Li analysis impossible, the "low energy peak" you saw is background.

Vladimir Dusevich
North Carolina State University




From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 15:34:54 -0500 (EST)
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Dear Winton,

} My problem: a Li-Co-Oxide deposited on Al was submitted as an "unknown" to
} a local analytical lab. Outfitted with an SEM and an EDS capable of light
} element characterization, the lab reported back an analysis without any Li.
}
} Examination of the printout of the spectrum shows a peak centered at very
} low keV (Li k-alpha is at 0.05391 keV). This low-energy peak apparently was
} not "characterized" during the peak analysis routine. As plotted (energy
} scale is from 0-10 keV), the peak is truncated on its low-energy side, thus
} only about 3/4 of the peak is displayed.
}
} My question has two parts:
}
} 1. is Li amenable to analysis by EDS?, and, if Li is amenable to such,
}
54 eV photons may not be analysable due to the inability of a
Si(Li) detector to produce enough electron-hole pairs (EHP) to produce a
measurable pulse. At 3 eV energy loss per EHP there would be only 18+-4
EHP produced if all the Li k-alpha photon energy was lost in the active
volume. Recombination would reduce this number somewhat, and the re-
maining EHP must be significantly more than the dark current of the
detector. This best-case (!) scenario assumes that there is no dead
layer in the detector and that the photon is produced at the surface of
the specimen (no absorption). EELS is a better way to analyse for Li,
but you would need a thin specimen so that plasmon losses don't obli-
terate the signal (Al has ~15 eV plasmons, so the 4-plasmon peak would
overlap the signal, which is the k-ionization energy--slightly } 54 eV).

} 2. is the lack of Li in the analysis due to the inability of the peaking
} routine to 'identify' (quantify) a peak which is not fully displayed? (to
} fully display the peak, the energy scale would have to begin at approx.
} -0.5 keV).
}
My guess is that at 54 eV there is too much noise in a Si(Li)
detector, even at LN2 temperature, and in the electronics to get a real
peak. The FWHM of the peak would be ~20 eV (I don't have the # of SD's
in a FWHM memorized or nearby), so all the noise within this region must
be compared to the expected signal. The experts in the EDX field would
know for sure. Comments from WDS experts would be good too.
Yours,
Bill Tivol





From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 15:37:37 -0500 (EST)
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Dear Nancy,

} I am analyzing calcite shells in the TEM. I am having difficulty gluing the
} calcite samples onto the grid.

Have you tried folding grids? This may hold the calcite without
glue. Good luck.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




From: GoodWolf :      goodwolf-at-bigfoot.com
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 12:55:56 -0800
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} ...
} At 11:45 AM 11/26/97 -0600, Dr. Winton Cornell wrote:
} } Listers:
} }
} } My problem: a Li-Co-Oxide deposited on Al was submitted as an "unknown" to
} } a local analytical lab. Outfitted with an SEM and an EDS capable of light
} } element characterization, the lab reported back an analysis without any Li.
} }
} }
} } Examination of the printout of the spectrum shows a peak centered at very
} } low keV (Li k-alpha is at 0.05391 keV). This low-energy peak apparently was
} } not "characterized" during the peak analysis routine. ...
} } My question has two parts:
} }
} } ...
}

Our Oxford EDX synthetically generates a "zero" peak for the purpose of
properly offsetting the energy axis. The computer will*not* label this peak.
So as not to cause confusion we generally label it "00" ...


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From: Pat Hales :      hales-at-medcor.mcgill.ca
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 15:55:56 -0800
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We have an LKB 2178 Knifemaker II that needs servicing - it takes a lot of
pressure before it will score the glass and then chips the glass edge rather
than a clean fracture. Does anyone know of someone who services these in the
Montreal, Canada area?

Secondly, we need parts for a Reichert FC4 unit - specifically the upper
part of the cryo knife holder and the specimen (not chuck) set screw and
allen key. Again, does anyone know who sells these to the Montreal area?

Thanks in advance,

Pat Hales
McGill University
Dept. of Anatomy & Cell Biology
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From: Kenneth Converse :      qualityimages-at-netrax.net
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 21:26:47 -0800
Subject: Re: Li analysis - by EDS?

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Winton Cornell wrote:
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} Listers:
}
} My problem: a Li-Co-Oxide deposited on Al was submitted as an "unknown" to
} a local analytical lab. Outfitted with an SEM and an EDS capable of light
} element characterization, the lab reported back an analysis without any Li.
}
} Examination of the printout of the spectrum shows a peak centered at very
} low keV (Li k-alpha is at 0.05391 keV). This low-energy peak apparently was
} not "characterized" during the peak analysis routine. As plotted (energy
} scale is from 0-10 keV), the peak is truncated on its low-energy side, thus
} only about 3/4 of the peak is displayed.
}
} My question has two parts:
}
} 1. is Li amenable to analysis by EDS?, and, if Li is amenable to such,
}
} 2. is the lack of Li in the analysis due to the inability of the peaking
} routine to 'identify' (quantify) a peak which is not fully displayed? (to
} fully display the peak, the energy scale would have to begin at approx.
} -0.5 keV).
}
} Winton Cornell
}
} P.S. the analysis shows 'good' results for O, low Al (as hoped, because the
} substrate was nicely coated), significant carbon (because of the carbon
} coating), no Li, and 'low' Co........all in all, not a 'good', or
} representative analysis as far as we're concerned
}
} Dr. Winton Cornell
} Senior Research Associate & Supervisor, Microanalysis Laboratory
} Department of Geosciences
} The University of Tulsa
} 600 South College
} Tulsa, OK 74104-3189
}
} phone: 918-631-3248
} fax: 918-631-2091
} e-mail: wcornell-at-centum.utulsa.edu
Li is not only below the detection level of the latest light element EDS
detectors but is also below the detection limits for WDS detectors. With
the right crystals they will go to Be, but no lower. The "peak" you
were looking at was unsupressed amplifier noise. You will need to look
at something besides x-rays if you wish to look for Li.
Ken Converse
owner
Quality Images
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From: Caroline Schooley :      schooley-at-mcn.org
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 20:49:21 -0800
Subject: Re: LKB/Reichert Parts and Service Wanted

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Do you have the instruction card? Sounds like it just needs a new scoring
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From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 97 00:40:05 -0500
Subject: Small size aperture holes

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John Mansfield wrote:
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.......we are looking for a very small objective aperture for our JEOL
2000FX. Since these apertures come in strips there is a limited selection
and the "standard" set comes with a 20micorn aperture as the smallest. We
can get a 10micron from JEOL, does anyone know of a smaller one say 5microns
?
=================================================
There are some production issues that make it difficult, if not impossible,
to produce the smaller size holes on a strip. Is there any way to convert
such strip aperture holders to "take" disc apertures? We have several
persons wanting to use our 1 and 2 um hole (no, that is not a typo) gold
foil thin film apertures but can't since their scopes take only the strips.

Chuck

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From: Larry Stoter :      LPS-at-teknesis.demon.co.uk
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 07:28:13 +0000
Subject: Re: Apertures for 2000FX

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} Hi there we are looking for a very small objective aperture for our JEOL
} 2000FX. Since these apertures come in strips there is a limited selection
} and the "standard" set comes with a 20micorn aperture as the smallest. We
} can get a 10micron from JEOL, does anyone know of a smaller one say
} 5microns?
} I have not called all of the Microscope Spares and Equipment suppliers yet,
} I thought I would solicit commnets for the community. Many thanks.
} Reply by email and I will summarize to the list if there is sufficient
} interest and response.
}
} Cheers
}
} Jfm.
}
}
} John Mansfield

Hi John,

Agar certainly sell strips for the 2000FX down to 5 micron. I would expect
SPI to sell them as well and the others.

The problem with these very small apertures is they get dirty very quickly,
even on microscopes with 'clean' vacuum systems, since they sit very close
to the specimen. For objective use, thin film gold apertures are better
than solid apertures, as they 'self clean' and last a reasonable amount of
time. I don't think these are available in strip form, only as singles for
aperture rods like Philips. Of course, they are not much good in the
condenser, as it is too easy to punch holes in them with the beam, although
I can't think of a reason to go this small at the condenser.

Regards,

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From: Stephan Helfer :      S.Helfer-at-rbge.org.uk
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:18:09 BST
Subject: Re: LKB/Reichert Parts and Service Wanted

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} We have an LKB 2178 Knifemaker II that needs servicing - it takes a lot of
} pressure before it will score the glass and then chips the glass edge rather
} than a clean fracture. Does anyone know of someone who services these in the
} Montreal, Canada area?
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Dear Pat

You should not have to apply pressure at all, this is what's causing
the edges to chip. A small adjustment of the scoring mechanism (check
that the wheel is ok) should do the trick. Also make sure that the
block does not slip during breaking e.g. don't put oil on the block
holder!!! These knife makers outlive most microscopists.

Sincerely
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From: svepet :      svepet-at-ikp.liu.se
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 15:12:26 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Thinning of TEM specimens

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I am interested in your opinion about electrolyhtic thinning apparatues and
their performance. I am planning to by a jet polishing machine to be used
for making thin foils from 3mm disks. The material I am interested in is
High strength Aluminium alloys, steels, stainless steels.

Best wishes=20
Sten Johansson

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From: Judy Trogadis :      judy-at-playfair.utoronto.ca
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:32:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: protocol for bone

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Does anyone have a good basic reference for processing bone for immuno-
cytochemistry? Either a paper, even an author perhaps a Web site or
personal experience. It would be highly appreciated.

Thank you

Judy Trogadis
Eye Research Institute and
University of Toronto
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399 Bathurst St.
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From: Ziel Rainer :      Rainer.R.Ziel-at-Obernburg.ARLO.akzo.nl (Tel 49\(0\)6022-812645)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 17:05:28 +0100
Subject: Re: SEM - Recording video sequences

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Dear Mr Vellinga,

first thank to all the answers to my question how to record video sequences in
PAL norm which are coming from a Philips ESEM FEG using the NTSC norm. We are
looking to bye a video recorder from AIWA, which costs about 1800DM and which
should do what we want. Until now we have no experiences with that system.

Kind Reagards

Rainer Ziel

(Rainer.Ziel-at-Akzo.NL)

Rainer Ziel, Akzo Nobel Central Research, 63784 Obernburg, Germany

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Mr. Vellinga wrote:

some time ago you posted the message below on the microscopy list. I am in the
process of buying a similar system, and ran into the same problem. Which
solution have you chosen? And what are you experiences? Regards, Willem-Pier
Vellinga

Materials Technology, Mechanical Engineering Eindhoven University of Technology

} Dear all,
} we want record video sequences on a video tape. Unfortunably the video norm
used at the Philips SEM XL30 ESEM FEG is the NTSC-norm, whereas the video norm
in Germany is PAL. Are there any experiences using an NTSC to PAL converter?
What is about the image quality? Are video recorder available, which can
understand the NTSC-norm and writing the video signal in PAL-norm to the video
tape and where to get them in Germany? Do you know a software running at
Windows NT, which can record video sequences comming from the SEM and which can
be stored to hard disc? I would appreciate any answers and comments, especially
if you have other ideas to solve the problem. Kind Regard Rainer




From: isabeln-at-alfa.ist.utl.pt (Isabel Nogueira)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 15:49:39 +0100
Subject: TEM Carbon folding grids

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I work with a TEM and I'm currently observing and performing EDS analysis
on gold samples.
The problem is that the samples don't stick to the grids.
I need folding grids but the ones I've seen so far are Cu, Ni, Au or Ag.

I need carbon folding grids and would appreciate if anyone can tell me
where I can get them.



Isabel Nogueira
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PORTUGAL
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McCrone Research Institute has begun a certification program in Applied
Chemical Microscopy. The program has been developed in response to growing
student and employer interest in formal individual assessment by the
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with documented student performance and skill assessment. Students have also
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Certification in Applied Chemical Microscopy is based on (1) successful
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From: RCHIOVETTI-at-aol.com
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 15:53:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: UV Microscopy filters

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Andy,

Most microscopes with incident fluorescence illumination have some kind of a
self-contained filter set or filter cube arrangement. The filter sets have
three components: (1) Excitation filter (for proper excitation wavelength);
(2) Dichroic mirror (reflects UV into objective, transparent to longer
wavelength emission; and (3) Suppression filter (absorbs short wavelength
excitation light which is reflected back into the objective, but permits
passage of the emission signal).

Try to get some information on the excitation and the emission spectra of
your specific acridine dye, if possible. If not, try to match the following:

To excite in the blue range, use an excitation filter in the 450-490nm range.
To get into the violet range, use an excitation filter in the neighborhood
of 420-490nm. I believe most of the acridine dyes only need violet-blue
light for excitation (acridine yellow, acridine orange). There is an
acridine blue dye which excites in the UV range at 340-380nm.

The dichroic mirror for most of the acridines should have a cutoff around
510nm; if you use acridine blue (needs UV excitation), the cutoff for the
mirror should be around 400nm.

The suppression filter for acridines should be a longpass filter around
515nm. Once again, the exception is acridine blue (UV excitation), which
requires a longpass filter around 425nm.

I hope this is of some help. Good luck, and let us know how things work out!

Best regards,

Bob Chiovetti
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From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 97 23:54:53 -0500
Subject: Hinged carbon grids

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Isabel Nogueira wrote:
==================================================
I work with a TEM and I'm currently observing and performing EDS analysis on
gold samples. The problem is that the samples don't stick to the grids. I
need folding grids but the ones I've seen so far are Cu, Ni, Au or Ag.

I need carbon folding grids and would appreciate if anyone can tell me where
I can get them.
===================================================
I guess I could always be wrong about this, but the only folding grids I
have ever seen or heard of are in the above mentioned elements referenced
above. Carbon grids are extremely brittle and there would be no such thing
as a ductile "hinge" for a carbon grid. That is one of several reasons why
folding carbon grids have never been made.

If the goal would be to have a grid that would not contribute x-ray lines,
while Be would in theory "work", no one (at least to my knowledge) has ever
made a folding Be grid and although technically we could make one, the
reality check here would be the extraordinarily high cost to make the first
one. And we would have concern about the ultimate ductility of the "hinge"
here too.

With regard to your problem, I am surprised that the gold particles,
assuming they are less than 30-40 nm in size, are not adhering to the grid.
When we have applied gold particles in this size size range to either carbon
or Formvar(R) films, we have not had such difficulties. Or I guess I should
more correctly say, we have not been aware of any such difficulties being
present. Some many years ago we had some non-conductive colloid (MgO) that
was not adhering and what solved the problem was to disperse on Formvar,
after which we exposed the film to the vapors of some solvent, if I remember
correctly, chloroform. This seemed to be just enough to cause the needed
adhesion between particle and support film. Hence the final film could be
supported with either Be or diamond grids (see our website below for details
), neither of which would contribute anything to the final EDS spectrum.

In any case, much as I would like the opportunity to produce an exotic
custom made grid, there might be a more simple and less expensive approach
to solving the problem.

Chuck

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From: Ron Doole :      ron.doole-at-materials.oxford.ac.uk
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 08:18:54 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: TEM carbon folding grids?

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Hi Isabel,

I assume that the x-ray lines from the available folding grids
will affect your analysis (for example - you could prove there was no
Cu using a gold grid then use Cu grids for your analysis).

I don't think carbon grids will fold. If you have to use C then
how about making a sandwich of the specimen between two (aligned) carbon
grids and (carefully) glueing the edges of the grids together.

Good Luck
Ron

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From: Jim Darley :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 15:19:41 +1100
Subject: Re: TEM Carbon folding grids

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Dear Isabell -
I don't think that oysters grids in carbon exist. Carbon grids are
extremely brittle and could not work unless somebody finds a very differe=
nt
kind of carbon grid.
Since you are not trying for truly quantitative work, I would check which
metal grid would give least peak overlap. Nylon grids (not available as
oysters either) contain a little Ti and they are not rigid enough for mos=
t
material specimens.=20
Specimens suitable to be held within an oyster type grid are likely to be
too thick for TEM unless they are ion beam thinned. In which case, fixing
the specimen to a large single hole grid with a bit of superglue is a
better alternative.=20
The large single hole option could also avoid almost all grid related
X-rays. TEM holder permitting, you could make a sandwich with a second
single large hole grid glued on top. For gluing use superglue and a low
power dissecting scope.
Cheers
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I work with a TEM and I'm currently observing and performing EDS analysis
on gold samples.
The problem is that the samples don't stick to the grids.
I need folding grids but the ones I've seen so far are Cu, Ni, Au or Ag.

I need carbon folding grids and would appreciate if anyone can tell me
where I can get them.



Isabel Nogueira
Dep. Materiais, Instituto Superior T=E9cnico
Av. Rovisco Pais, 1
1096 Lisboa Codex
PORTUGAL
Tel: 351-1-8412120/4
Fax: 351-1-8412120
e-mail: isabeln-at-alfa.ist.utl.pt


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From: Lesley Weston :      lesley-at-unixg.ubc.ca
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 17:10:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: TEM Carbon folding grids

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Could you put a formvar film *over* the sample? Maybe by putting the
sample onto the film while it is floating on the water, then putting the
grid, already coated, onto the sample, then picking up the whole sandwich
and cutting round the grid. Just a thought.

Lesley Weston.

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From: DUNNTEM-at-aol.com
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 01:05:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: TEM "Glue"

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Dear Nancy Buening:

The technique that I find works well almost always (except on Friday
afternoons!) using the colloidal silver liquid adhesive, is to position your
specimen first - a fraction off the final position. Then apply a small drop
of adhesive using the point of a sewing needle and gently push the edge of
the specimen into that drop. At this point you must wait until the glue
dries, then apply another two drops of adhesive to form three roughly equally
spaced drops.

Hope this helps.

Ted Dunn




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From: isabeln-at-alfa.ist.utl.pt
Date: Thursday, November 27, 1997 9:49AM
Subject: TEM Carbon folding grids

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Isabel:

I am not aware of C- folding grids.

When you say gold samples, are they powders or foils. If you are talking
about powders (or dispersions) you will need some sort of support such as a
formvar support or a holey grid . You can make this in your lab or
purchase them from suppliers. Otherwise, you might try applying an
adhesive coating to the grid by dissolving scotch tape in acetone and
immersing the C-grids in this solution so that it will coat the grid bars
and make them sticky enough.

Jordi Marti
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I work with a TEM and I'm currently observing and performing EDS analysis
on gold samples.
The problem is that the samples don't stick to the grids.
I need folding grids but the ones I've seen so far are Cu, Ni, Au or Ag.

I need carbon folding grids and would appreciate if anyone can tell me
where I can get them.



Isabel Nogueira
Dep. Materiais, Instituto Superior Tecnico
Av. Rovisco Pais, 1
1096 Lisboa Codex
PORTUGAL
Tel: 351-1-8412120/4
Fax: 351-1-8412120
e-mail: isabeln-at-alfa.ist.utl.pt





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