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From: Keith Ryan :      kpr-at-WPO.NERC.AC.UK
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 08:31:25 +0100
Subject: Re: I can't focus on the task -Reply

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Further to Randy's suggestions: use a long shutter time if you can- it
helps! Also, I believe I have done the job looking at the waveform rather
than a normal image, because you're looking at something you know.

Keith Ryan




From: Reinhard Windoffer :      windoff-at-goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:02:09 +0200 (MET DST)
Subject: gfp antibody, glutaraldehyde

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Hi,
can anyone tell me about experience with anti-gfp antibodies on
glutaraldehyde fixed cells or tissue?
I am looking for an antibody which is suitable for electron
microscopical gold labelling.
Someone out there who has already tried it with or without success?
thanks
reinhard
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From: Ruska Space Project :      Ruska1-at-NASA.gov
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 11:59:27 +0100
Subject: Ruska Space Project

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Dear fellow researcher,

we have been informed that You work on the structural investigation
of proteins by high resolution electron microscopy.
According to recently found unpublished notes traceable to Ernst Ruska
the resolution limitation of a transmission electron microscope due to
spherical aberration can be overcome by placing the microscope into a
highly inhomogenous magnetic field such as at the poles of the larger
planets of our solar system. Additionally one can expect extremely
stable cryo-conditions around 4 Kelvin in the outer regions of our
solar system.
The National Aeronautics and Space Agency of the United States of
America has therefore launched a project to install a Philips CM200FEG
inside an unmanned satellite to be sent to Jupiter where it will be
held in orbit for the duration of the experiment. All manipulations
such as alignment and specimen insertion will be carried out by a
remotely controlled robotic arm.

We are currently seeking suitable specimens for these undertaking
and would appretiate contributions from Your department in exchange
for a co-authorship in all resulting publications.

Yours sincerely,

Walter Choke




From: Emilio Pastore :      epastore-at-ux1.unipd.it
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:03:48 +0200
Subject: Ruska Space Project

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I wish to receive notice about the book
"Manual of microscopic Analysis of Feedstuffs. 3rd Ed.
The Amer. Assoc. of Feed Microscopists, 1922, p. 73-93"
or the articles in the same book, autors BATES L.e coll.
Feed ingredient descriptions of animal origin.





From: CHANDRASEKHAR GORLA :      gorla-at-usa.net
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 13:31:41
Subject: TEM wedge polishing for sapphire

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Hello everyone,
I am trying to make cross-section TEM samples of thin films (ZnO) on sapphire. So far I have tried to make the samples by the traditional method ie., glue two pieces face-to-face, polish to 15 micron, and then ion-mill. I have had some problems with this method. Some of the people I have contacted about this told me to try using the wedge polishing method. Has anyone out there used this technique for making cross-section samples of films on sapphire? I was informed by another person that this might not work as sapphire is very brittle when it is thin, and we might not get a very good wedge.
I would greatly appreciate any hints that you can give.

Sincerely

Chandrasekhar (chandu) Gorla
Rutgers University
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Piscataway, NJ 08855
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From: Microscopy Center :      emcenter-at-btny.purdue.edu
Date: 1 Apr 1998 08:57:03 -0500
Subject: FWD>Unicryl Resin -Reply

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From: My Account :      me-at-leidecker.gsfc.nasa.gov
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 98 09:03:36 -0500
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Unicryl is made by BBInternational and distributed in the USA by Vector
Laboratories, Inc. (1-800-227-6666). They are a CA based company and are not
open yet today. I did call there yesterday and asked for a method booklet on
Unicryl and the individual who I talked to did not indicate that the resin was
unavailable. In fact, I just recieved a promotional brochure on the resin
yesterday which prompted me to look into it further.

For those that are not familiar with Unicryl, it is a resin that is
supposed to be more all purpose. The company claims that it is good for light
and electrom microscopy, immunolabeling, in situ hybridization and
histochemistry. It is a one component resin,of low viscosity and can be
polymerized with UV light at 4o C or at 55oC.

This all sounds good but I did want to benefit from others experience as to
how it compares with other resins such as Epon generic, Spurr's, LR White, and
the various lowicryls like HM20 (my favorite for low temp.ICC).

Debby Sherman, manager
Microscopy Center in Agriculture
Purdue University

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And a happy April 1 to you too. Very amusing.

Henning Leidecker




From: Linda Fox :      lfox1-at-wpo.it.luc.edu
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:00:21 -0600
Subject: resin etching,immuno

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Dear Walter
I feel there must be an easier way! However,
I have despatched for your personal attention a live sample of
the new mutant AIF strain of Ebola virus, which has a novel and
enigmatic structure we are anxious to elucidate. I assume NASA has
the appropriate containment resources to deal with the consignment on
arrival. Although I don't expect to hear from you again immediately,
I would appreciate it if you could keep me informed of progress with
the experiment.
Chris



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Hello Friends,
Need your advice again! Can Spurr resin be etched like some of
the Epon-type resins can for Immuno work? If so does anyone have a
recipe? I have a difficult specimen, candida, that is great in
Spurr, so-so in Epoxy, horrible in Lowicryl and this is getting
frustrating. I don't know if Unicryl or LRwhite would work.
The problem with the hydrophilic resins seems to be that the
resin swells slightly as the sections are cut and the sharp
distinction between the resin and the wall of the candida causes a
split from the resin. The candida either fold over or fall out,
leaving so few good ones that I can't proceed to immuno work and hope
for any results.
Thanks,
Linda M. Fox
lfox1-at-wpo.it.luc.edu


Hi Linda,

We used Unicryl resin for many years on several yeasts with good
results. We do not remove the cellwall of the cells but "etch" it a
little by an incubation with 0.1% meta periodate for 5 minutes prior
to the dehydration.
See the paper of Evert van Tuinen Journal of Histochem. & Cytochem.
vol. 35/3, page 327-333 (1987).

Good Luck.






From: Nestor J. Zaluzec :      zaluzec-at-Sparc5.Microscopy.Com
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:34:42 -0600
Subject: Administrivia: Enough of the April 1st stuff

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Enough said !

You should also I have filed a formal complaint to the originator's postmaster
of this message since it was signed by a bogus account from
"rumble.csb.ki.se" and was sent in a way to attempt to both hide detection
and also illegally represented an agency of the US Government.

It is obvious this was a joke, but it broke all the Listserver Rules, which
everyone
agrees to when they sign on.

Jokes I can put up with, but not changing addresses, attempting to hide and
impersonating a government agency!

Nestor






From: Karl R. Umstadter :      fro-at-lanl.gov
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:37:46 -0600
Subject: HV cables

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Does anyone know where one can find 100kV DC Cables?
Multicore cables that will hold off the 100kV?

Your assistance is appreciated.

-Karl

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if I knew what I was doing."
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From: mdwarfield-at-mail.hac.com
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:38:21 -0600
Subject: LEO 435 VPi with ISIS 300 X-Ray Analysis System

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Hello to all,

We have been using a LEO 435 VPi SEM with an Oxford Inst. ISIS 300
integrated system since December of 1996. Since day one, we have had a
series of problems with this integrated system, apparently caused by
the common operating systems (first Win 3.1, then WIN95). It appears
that the two systems do not like being integrated under one computer,
as the sharing of resources seems to cause lurking problems that
randomly appear, and cause system failures. I would be interested if
any other users of the ISIS 300 system have had any other similar
problems. Oxford claims that we are alone with our troubles, but I
find this very hard to believe.

The first incarnation of our system used WIN 3.1 as the operating
environment. This seemed optimum for the LEO as we encountered no
system problems here. The ISIS though, would constantly run out of
system resources and crash, usually without warning and lock up the
system. It turned out that the ISIS is a resource hog (perhaps due to
being written in Visual Basic), and the upgrade to ver 3.2 did not
help at all. We then upgraded the system to Win 95, and the resource
problem with the ISIS appears cured, but we have uncorked a beast in
the LEO. The LEO is being upgraded to a full win95 system soon, but I
am seeing more and more bugs with the ISIS.

Am I alone in believing the ISIS to be a poorly conceived and executed
system? We have had endless conflicts with the operating system, to
the point of having to reinstall win95 several times after apparent
simple crashes, which seem to render several ISIS modules unavailable
after that. The user interface appears haphazard from module to
module, with no user definable defaults to customize operation to our
preferences. The Labbook system forces users to collect data according
to the x-ray system parameters. We like to structure our data by
customer and job parameters, and keep all x-ray and microscope data
under one directory. This is impossible under the ISIS Labbook system.

I am greatly disappointed with the integration of these two products.
The LEO has been a fine system, with the operating environment keyed
to usability, and endlessly customizable by the user. The ISIS is user
unfriendly, and rigid in structure. Unless the user follows the
Labbook protocols exactly, the system is unavailable to them.

Has anyone heard of a replacement operating environment for the Oxford
system? Our complaints to Oxford have been dismissed, and LEO is
unable to effect changes to the abysmal Oxford operating system. I
wonder if I am alone in my frustration with this unfriendly and
quixotic x-ray system.

Mike Warfield
Hughes Space & Communications
M&P Laboratory






From: CHANDRASEKHAR GORLA
Date: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 8:31AM
Subject: TEM wedge polishing for sapphire

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You didn't say if your were dimpling the sample before ion milling and
you didn't say what your ion milling conditions were -these are
important. 15 um is a lot of material to ion mill through and you can
minimize or eliminate differential sputtering effects by using low
angles. You should precision dimple the sample down to less than 5 um
and you can probably get close to 1 um. Then ion mill. If you have an
older ion mill, you are going to need a sector control stage. If you
have a newer ion mill, use low angles but remember that you have to
clear the rim of the dimple. This means that if you have a 100 um thick
sample and dimple on one side, you can't get below about 4 degrees.
Double-sided dimpling and thinner sample allows you to go lower.

You can do the Tripod technique but it takes an investment in time and
some equipment to learn it. It is best to learn from someone who knows.
South Bay Technology has a periodic short course taught by Ron Anderson.
You should contact them to see what is involved.

Sapphire also works with the Small Angle Cleavage Technique. I've done
ZnO on Si and glass coverslip substrates this way and it works well.
You should be able to do it with sapphire easily enough. This technique
has a lot of advantages, but one of the best is that it is very cheap.
South Bay Technology has a kit for getting started on this technique
called the MicroCleaving Kit. John McCaffrey and I have a detailed
pictorial tutorial on how to do it in the "Specimen Preparation for TEM
of Materials IV" book Vol 480 from MRS that should be able to get you
started on it. I always try this technique first; if it works, it's
great.

Good luck.


Scott Walck

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Hello everyone,
I am trying to make cross-section TEM samples of thin films (ZnO) on
sapphire. So far I have tried to make the samples by the traditional
method ie., glue two pieces face-to-face, polish to 15 micron, and then
ion-mill. I have had some problems with this method. Some of the people
I have contacted about this told me to try using the wedge polishing
method. Has anyone out there used this technique for making
cross-section samples of films on sapphire? I was informed by another
person that this might not work as sapphire is very brittle when it is
thin, and we might not get a very good wedge.
I would greatly appreciate any hints that you can give.

Sincerely

Chandrasekhar (chandu) Gorla
Rutgers University
Dept. of Ceramic and Materials Science
Piscataway, NJ 08855
TEl: (732)445-3663


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From: Luc Harmsen :      anaspec-at-icon.co.za
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:53:31 +0200
Subject: Topcon HT problems.

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Dear Listers.
Re: Topcon / ISI electronic faults.

We look after a number of Topcon / ISI systems and find that we have a repeat
problems of the Power Transistors for the Bias, filament and EHT control
blowing.
These are the four transistors that sit in the small box on top of the EHT tank
on the Sx SS and ABT range of E.M.'s We have tried a number of transistors and
ways of mounting these, but they continue to give problems.
Does anybody else have the same problem, but more importantly has any one
solved this problem ?

Thanks
Luc Harmsen
Anaspec, South Africa
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From: scott.wight-at-nist.gov (Scott Wight)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:19:27 -0500
Subject: news: unusual microbes found in antarctic ice core

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If you havent seen the ESEM images from the Vostok ice core samples, the
NASA news story is at:

http://science.msfc.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast12mar98_1.htm

The presence of microbes in the deep core is significant to considerations
of life elsewhere. See the story for more information.

Scott

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From: Harrison :      littlebear-at-mindspring.com
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 08:59:04 -0700
Subject: Re: Ruska Space Project

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At 11:59 AM 4/1/98 +0100, you wrote:
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From: Caroline Schooley :      schooley-at-mcn.org
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:25:43 -0800
Subject: Re: Unicryl Resin

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} Can someone tell me a bit more about Unicryl?
} I'm not a biologist, I work in a Geology department, would love a non-
} viscous resin which would soak well into crumbly, porous rocks and
} wouldn't polymerise until told to.

Ritchie -

I suggest that you try LR White, Hard grade. It works well for things like
zeolite catalysts, for example. Check these refs for details:

Csencsits, R., Schooley, C.,& Gronsky, R. (1985) An improved method for
thin sectioning of particulate catalysts. J.E.M. Technique 2:643-644.

Ulan, J.G., Schooley, C., & Gronsky, R. (1990) Microtomy of large
particle zeolites for TEM. Mat. Res. Soc. Symp. Proc. 199:153-156

Ulan, J.G., Schooley, C., & Gronsky, R. (1990) Modified embedment
procedure for microtomy of large particle zeolites. J.E.M. Technique
16:254-255


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From: Ruska1
Date: 01 April 1998 15:56
Subject: Ruska Space Project

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Dear researcher

I would suggest that we could examine the Good Times virus or we may still
have some Pilt Down Man bones in the basement.

Thanks for the opportunity to collaborate but I would prefer the air miles
if NASA is in that scheme.

Malcolm Haswell
University of Sunderland
UK
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Dear fellow researcher,

we have been informed that You work on the structural investigation
of proteins by high resolution electron microscopy.
According to recently found unpublished notes traceable to Ernst Ruska
the resolution limitation of a transmission electron microscope due to
spherical aberration can be overcome by placing the microscope into a
highly inhomogenous magnetic field such as at the poles of the larger
planets of our solar system. Additionally one can expect extremely
stable cryo-conditions around 4 Kelvin in the outer regions of our
solar system.
The National Aeronautics and Space Agency of the United States of
America has therefore launched a project to install a Philips CM200FEG
inside an unmanned satellite to be sent to Jupiter where it will be
held in orbit for the duration of the experiment. All manipulations
such as alignment and specimen insertion will be carried out by a
remotely controlled robotic arm.

We are currently seeking suitable specimens for these undertaking
and would appretiate contributions from Your department in exchange
for a co-authorship in all resulting publications.

Yours sincerely,

Walter Choke





From: Sara Miller :      saram-at-acpub.duke.edu
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:10:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Seems like old "TIME"s

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Refs for virus pix:

Palmer EL, Martin ML. Electron Microscopy in Viral Diagnosis. CRC
Press, Boca Raton. 1988. (Ebola in here)

Doane FW, Anderson N. Electron Microscopy in Diagnostic Virology.
Cambridge Press, New York. 1987. (Marburg here)

Miller SE. Detection and identification of viruses by electron microscopy
J Electron Microsc Tech (now J Microscopy Research and Technique)
1986;4:265-301.

Miller SE. Diagnosis of viral infections by electron microscopy. In
Lennette EH, Lennette DA, Lennette ET (eds). Diagnostic PRocedures for
Viral, Rickettsial, and Chlamydial Infections. American Public Health
Assoc, Washington, DC. pp 37-78. (Ebola here)

Murphy FA;, Fauquet CM, Bishop DHL, Ghabrial SA, Jarvis AW, Martelli GP,
Mayo MA, Summers MD (eds).
Virus taxonomy, 6th Report of the International Committee on Taxonomy of
Viruses. Springer-Verlag, New York. (Marburg and Ebola here0

Sara E. Miller, Ph. D.
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From: Tony Garratt-Reed :      tonygr-at-MIT.EDU
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 12:22:11 -0500
Subject: Re: I can't focus on the task

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Paula -

We use a simple ground glass screen with a magnifying lens built into a
plastic housing which fits on the back of the camera in place of the
Polaroid 545 back. It was cheap, and came from our local photographic
supply house. It works fine.

Tony Garratt-Reed

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From: Robert Underwood :      underwoo-at-u.washington.edu
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:07:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: staining of LRWhite

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Hi,

We use LRWhite alot. The stains rinse out very quickly. Use just 10 dips
in 2 beakers of distilled water. then dry.

Bob Underwood
Derm Imaging center

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From: Garry Burgess :      GBurgess-at-exchange.hsc.mb.ca
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:25:03 -0600
Subject: H&E Like Stain for Epon/Araldite

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In our diagnostic EM lab we currently use Paragon stain to stain our
epoxy semi-thin sections, but it would be very nice if we had some kind
of rapid H&E like stain that could give that kind of polychrome
differentiation between the nucleus and the cytoplasm.

The Paragon stain is supposed to be a polychrome stain, but what we in
effect see is more of a monochrome direct stain.

Does anyone know of a quick yet superior stain that might give us better
results here?

} Garry




From: laura.rhoads-at-wku.edu (Laura Rhoads)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:29:50 -0600
Subject: Ruska in Space

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What I would like to know is how Philips scored this cherry deal=
to get their scope in orbit, and, in what way they reduced costs=
in order to get below NASA's ceiling for non-competitive action?=
Considering the application I suppose the vacuum pump system could=
be deleted: Who needs a rotary pump when for backing vacuum you=
can "vent to space"...

The question is would Balzers, Edwards and other members of the High=
Vacuum Equipment Consortium initiate a Congressional Oversight Committee=
Investigation into the matter? If so, our samples destined to be=
launched with the probe could be lost for a decade or so in this=
legislative morass!

Even with the reduction in maintenance-requiring systems did NASA=
obtain a service contract through Philips or, in an effort to contain=
costs, get one with another third party service provider? I pity=
the poor service technician whose service region this unit falls,=
or rather orbits, in. Then again, just think of the mileage reimbursement.=
=20

The question lingering, however, will be if FedEx will be able to=
deliver replacement parts still by P1 Overnight Express...


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Department of Biology
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From: Simon Watkins :      swatkins+-at-pitt.edu
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:49:03 -0800
Subject: ITO glass

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Folks, do any of you know of a supplier for ITO glass for making heated
culture chambers
Thanks
Simon


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From: Christopher :      yoyodine-at-UNM.EDU
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:13:12 -0700 (MST)
Subject: CITZAF

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Does any one have any info on a CITZAF type package that includes a thin
film correction and is NOT CITZAF3 by John Armstrong?? We are interest in
anything, Commercial or Freeware.

I am not currently part of the list, so please mail to me directly.

Christopher

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From: Charlie Ginsburg :      cgins-at-Yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:53:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Axiomatic advice

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I am currently in the process of restoring a
Zeiss Axiomat LM. We do not have the screw rings/adapters required
for attaching a camera, and are still waffling over film vs. digital
cameras. If I go with with film, do I absolutely need a low momentum
shutter? Can anyone give me advice on where to look for the adapters?
I know that it will be difficult to find parts for a twenty-something
year old
scope, but it seems to be in good working order. Thanks for any help

Charlie Ginsburg
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From: beth-at-dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Beth Richardson)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:06:10 -0500
Subject: get a job

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Hi,
I just received a job announcement from the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN.
by snail mail. They are looking for an Electron Microcopy Technologist to
work at their Core Facility .
Please contact Kaine Kerkhoff {kerkhoff.kaine-at-mayo.edu} if you are
interested in this position.
thought some of you might like to know,
beth


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From: A.P. Alves de Matos :      mtlopes-at-fc.ul.pt
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 00:18:14 +0200
Subject: Re: Powder deposition

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There are reliable methods to make coloidal gold in suspension. The gold
particles are very regular in size and show little aggregation. Also
aggregates can be removed by centrifugation.
Your problem would seem to be to deposit these particles onto the silica
substrate without aggregation. I guess it should not be impossible by
adjusting concentration and charge of the particles in suspension. Also,
they probably adsorb to the film if you put the suspension briefly in
contact with the substrate. If everything fails, may be they can be
centrifuged into the silica.
It is possible that the coloidal gold is more stable in solution than
the gold you are using, but I do not know if it is possible to make it
as large as you want. Usually the particles have up to 15nm.
May be they can be grown after they are deposited in the silica.

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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:58:55 +1000
Subject: Re: I can't focus on the task

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I make a focusing screen for a homemade "roberts lens focuser" for a nikonos
underwater camera, by grinding a 1.5" x 3" microscope slide using some
grinding compound. Worked fine for that purpose, but you'd have to
determine the plane of focus and make sure the glass you use will span the
width. It may not have to cover the entire surface.

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} } I am in need of a type 545 Polaroid camera back that has a frosted
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} } but if I make a print from the neg. it looks slightly out of focus.
} } I've been told that I need to focus the camera to match the screen
} } & this fancy camera back with the glass helps you do that. I know they
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} } I called Polaroid and they were confused.
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} }
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} } My future looks fuzzy & so do my prints,
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} } Paula :-)
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From: Diana van Driel :      dianavd-at-eye.usyd.edu.au
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:01:28 +1000
Subject: gfp antibody, glutaraldehyde

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By GFP, I presume you mean glial fibrillary acidic protein. If you don't,
ignore the rest of this! If you do, then you're in luck. GFAP is one of the
toughest antigens there is, surviving in OsO4 fixed tissue, embedded in
resin and left in a cupboard for 15 years. I've done a lot of labelling for
GFAP. The best antibody I've tried is Dako's polyclonal rabbit anti-cow.
Others I've tried include Amersham monoclonal mouse anti-human and Sigma
polyclonal rabbit; they weren't as effective. You can label glut fixed
whole tissue - assuming, of course, that you either use vibratome sections
or permeabilise the tissue. You can label any old resin sections - if you
can see the filaments, then there should be enough GFAP to label. Pretreat
with NaIO4 first, then immunolabel as usual. If you're interested I can
send you the method(s) I use. I've labelled with 10nm gold conjugate and
also 1nm with Ag enhancment. Both methods work well.

Diana

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From: Jim Darley :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:59:02 +1000
Subject: Re: I can't focus on the task

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It is important that the ground part of the glass is precisely in the focal
plane. The ground glass should be facing the lens and sit on the film
guides.
A ground glass screen is easily made by grinding the face of a cut
(perhaps larger than standard) microscope slide. Say 800 grid grinding
compound (as used for grinding geol. section) does the job very well.

First the magnifier should be focused onto the ground screen.

Then press photo (no beam required) and use a line scan at low
intensity as an "image" on the screen.

Adjust the distance between CRT and camera to bring the image into focus.
Alternatively, the lens on the camera can be focused.

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} plastic housing which fits on the back of the camera in place of the
} Polaroid 545 back. It was cheap, and came from our local photographic
} supply house. It works fine.
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} Tony Garratt-Reed
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} At 02:45 PM 3/31/98 -0800, you wrote:
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} }
} } Listers,
} }
} } I am in need of a type 545 Polaroid camera back that has a frosted
} } glass where the film holder usually is. My SEM pix look OK on the screen
} } but if I make a print from the neg. it looks slightly out of focus.
} } I've been told that I need to focus the camera to match the screen
} } & this fancy camera back with the glass helps you do that. I know they
} } exist because I saw one on an ESEM. Does anyone know where I can buy one?
} } I called Polaroid and they were confused.
} } Can anyone help me with this problem?
} }
} }
} } My future looks fuzzy & so do my prints,
} }
} } Paula :-)
} }
} } Paula Sicurello
} } UC Berkeley
} } Electron Microscope Lab
} } psic-at-uclink4.berkeley.edu







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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 08:32:59 +0200
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All information and registration details (participation fee, date, special
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From: Linda Fox :      lfox1-at-wpo.it.luc.edu
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:00:21 -0600
Subject: resin etching,immuno

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Hello Friends,
Need your advice again! Can Spurr resin be etched like some of
the Epon-type resins can for Immuno work? If so does anyone have a
recipe? I have a difficult specimen, candida, that is great in
Spurr, so-so in Epoxy, horrible in Lowicryl and this is getting
frustrating. I don't know if Unicryl or LRwhite would work.
The problem with the hydrophilic resins seems to be that the
resin swells slightly as the sections are cut and the sharp
distinction between the resin and the wall of the candida causes a
split from the resin. The candida either fold over or fall out,
leaving so few good ones that I can't proceed to immuno work and hope
for any results.
Thanks,
Linda M. Fox
lfox1-at-wpo.it.luc.edu


Hi Linda,

We used Unicryl resin for many years on several yeasts with good
results. We do not remove the cellwall of the cells but "open" it a
little by an incubation with 0.1% sodium meta periodate (w/v in
water) for 5 minutes prior to the dehydration.
See the paper of Evert van Tuinen Journal of Histochem. & Cytochem.
vol. 35/3, page 327-333 (1987).

Good Luck.

Klaas A.Sjollema.




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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 09:48:34 +0100
Subject: Apology:Enough of the April 1st stuff

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From: mdwarfield-at-mail.hac.com [SMTP:mdwarfield-at-mail.hac.com]
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:05:43 +0200
Subject: LEO 435 VPi with ISIS 300 X-Ray Analysis System

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Good day Mike.

The problem you describe is something we saw with a S440i system about 3 years
ago.
As is usual, the SEM manufacturer and the ED manufacturer will both say the
intergration works before you place the order and then both deny it is their
system crashing after you have paid. ( please don't sue me for this !!!!??? )
Sorry to say it but you must simply de-integrate the two. Isis was designed
around the HP type PC. So let it run on that. The Leo will run happily on the
PC. We must remember that P.C. stands for Personal Computer. So documents and
games work ......reasonably well !!???....... But if you load a P.C. with real
work, it gets a bit of a speed wobble and crashes fairly often.
The Leo, on it's own, should have 64Mbytes of memory fitted to make it work
comfortably and ISIS needs the HP.
We did this on the system here and found we have far less problems. With
computers we always expect a few crashes.

Luc Harmsen
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Hello to all,

We have been using a LEO 435 VPi SEM with an Oxford Inst. ISIS 300
integrated system since December of 1996. Since day one, we have had a
series of problems with this integrated system, apparently caused by
the common operating systems (first Win 3.1, then WIN95). It appears
that the two systems do not like being integrated under one computer,
as the sharing of resources seems to cause lurking problems that
randomly appear, and cause system failures. I would be interested if
any other users of the ISIS 300 system have had any other similar
problems. Oxford claims that we are alone with our troubles, but I
find this very hard to believe.

The first incarnation of our system used WIN 3.1 as the operating
environment. This seemed optimum for the LEO as we encountered no
system problems here. The ISIS though, would constantly run out of
system resources and crash, usually without warning and lock up the
system. It turned out that the ISIS is a resource hog (perhaps due to
being written in Visual Basic), and the upgrade to ver 3.2 did not
help at all. We then upgraded the system to Win 95, and the resource
problem with the ISIS appears cured, but we have uncorked a beast in
the LEO. The LEO is being upgraded to a full win95 system soon, but I
am seeing more and more bugs with the ISIS.

Am I alone in believing the ISIS to be a poorly conceived and executed
system? We have had endless conflicts with the operating system, to
the point of having to reinstall win95 several times after apparent
simple crashes, which seem to render several ISIS modules unavailable
after that. The user interface appears haphazard from module to
module, with no user definable defaults to customize operation to our
preferences. The Labbook system forces users to collect data according
to the x-ray system parameters. We like to structure our data by
customer and job parameters, and keep all x-ray and microscope data
under one directory. This is impossible under the ISIS Labbook system.

I am greatly disappointed with the integration of these two products.
The LEO has been a fine system, with the operating environment keyed
to usability, and endlessly customizable by the user. The ISIS is user
unfriendly, and rigid in structure. Unless the user follows the
Labbook protocols exactly, the system is unavailable to them.

Has anyone heard of a replacement operating environment for the Oxford
system? Our complaints to Oxford have been dismissed, and LEO is
unable to effect changes to the abysmal Oxford operating system. I
wonder if I am alone in my frustration with this unfriendly and
quixotic x-ray system.

Mike Warfield
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:06:51 -0500
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From: Barbara Foster :      mme-at-map.com
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 09:05:26 -0500
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What you are looking for is a "focusing screen". It can be made following
one of a number of materials, ranging from frosted glass to fresnel lenses
to just a translucent piece of plastic --- anything which will allow you to
catch the aerial image formed by the microscope. You can usually buy a
piece of fresnel material at a science shop (most of the local malls have
them now) or from a photographic store (I am not sure that they have one
big enough to fit your Polaroid back. In any event, remove your film
cassette and mount the screen in the plane where the film would be. If the
adapter holding the camera system is adjustable, raise or lower the camera
system until the image is in focus on the screen. (For more critical
focus, try using either an 8x loop, available at any photographic store, or
a simple 5x eyepiece from a light microscope). Once you have found this
focal plane, lock the camera in position. You have now made your
microscope and your camera system parfocal.

Being a light/confocal microscopist, I am unfamiliar with EM optics and how
the image is formed at the film plane. In a light microscope, the depth of
focus at the image plane is directly related to the magnification squared.
As a result, using a low power objective gives the shallowest and most
accurate focus in the image formed at the film plane and guarantees that
all higher mags will automatically be in focus.
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From: Garry Burgess
Date: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 2:25PM
Subject: H&E Like Stain for Epon/Araldite

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Garry,
I, too, use the Paragon stain, but I do get a polychrome effect.
I was wondering if you use a saturated Sodium Borate solution to enhance
your staining. After drying the section on the hotplate, I put a 3 to 4
drops of Paragon stain and one drop of sodium borate on the slide (still
on the hotplate). The combination of heat and sodium borate enhance the
Paragon stain quite nicely. You might want to try this before adding H
& E to your "to do" list.

Sharron G. Chism HT (ASCP)
Electron Micropscopy Lab
Harris Methodist Fort Worth
Fort Worth, Texas
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In our diagnostic EM lab we currently use Paragon stain to stain our
epoxy semi-thin sections, but it would be very nice if we had some kind
of rapid H&E like stain that could give that kind of polychrome
differentiation between the nucleus and the cytoplasm.

The Paragon stain is supposed to be a polychrome stain, but what we in
effect see is more of a monochrome direct stain.

Does anyone know of a quick yet superior stain that might give us better
results here?

} Garry




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From: Anton Gutakovskii :      gut-at-thermo.isp.nsc.ru
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 19:34:07 +0600
Subject: needed help for JEM-4000EX

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We have the problems with our JEM-4000EX: independent shut down after
10-30 minute of work.
The possible cause is disturbance of logical schemes work of vacuum
system.
Does anybody else have the same problem, but more importantly has any
one
solved this problem ?
Does anyone know how to make testing of vacuum system by CRT of
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t.c.?
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From: George Lawton :      GLAWTO-at-MEDNET.SWMED.EDU
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 09:18:02 -0600
Subject: Durst light bulbs

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We have a Durst Laborator 138 S enlarger. The lamp recently
blew and we don't have a backup. We have tried to find a
source for the special bulb but with no luck.
Is Durst still in business? We have tried the Internet.
The blown bulb is not the one that belongs in the enlarger.
Thanks for any leads on Durst.

George Lawton




From: Kerstin Brismar :      Kerstin.Brismar-at-vf.slu.se
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:14:26 +0200 (MET DST)
Subject: EM - Vacant position

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VACANT POSITION!

Researcher in the area of "Electron microscopy in plant research".
Reference number 1716/98-4599.

At the Electron Microscopy Unit, Department of Plant Breeding
Research, The Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences,
Sval=F6v/Alnarp, Sweden. The EM Unit will be a common resource
for the university's departments in Southern Sweden.

The candidate must have a doctor's degree, primarily not earlier
than five years ago. Experience of work with plant material is a
merit. Of importance are the scientific, pedagogic, adminstrative
and other capacities of relevance for this occupation.
Of importance also is the capacity to inform about scientific
research in a popular way.=20

The appointment is first for two years, followed by another period
of two years and the possibility for a further prolongation. The
salary is individually determined (at least 20 000 Swedish crowns
a month, before taxes). Women are engouraged to apply.

Together with the application, a short account on the applicant's
scientific and pedagogic activities should be given. The application
marked with the above-mentioned reference number, together with a
certified C.V., merit and publication lists, and other documents
(including scientific and pedagogic works) should be sent in two
copies so that they reach the "Registrator, SLU, Box 7070,
S-750 07 Uppsala, Sweden" at the latest on April 23, 1998.

For further information contact professor Waheeb Heneen,
tel +46 418 667064 or fax +46 418 667081.





From: Chris MacLean :      cmaclean-at-vaytek.com
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:32:37 -0600
Subject: Fw: 3-D reconstruction using TEM

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Hello.

I work for VayTek, and would like to respond to Alex Black's
question on 3D reconstruction using TEM.

Yes it's possible. You must aquire a series of images in sequence and
equidistant from each other. They must be all the same size, resolution,
and magnification.

I'm aware that this is a tall order. I've just completed doing a 3D
reconstruction of some TEM images with great results. The process involved
some very tricky TEM work, and some sofisticated image processing using
three software packages.

I'm not at liberty to give you more details on the TEM work, but if you're
interested in knowing more about the process, please e-mail me directly.
I'll contact the lab doing this and ask them to contact you. I'll also fill
you in on the software involved.

Best regards

Patrick Guerin
Customer Technical Support Engineer
VayTek, Inc.
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From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:25:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: cell growth on Au grids

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Dear Sara,
}
} Does anyone have experience growing tissue culture cells on gold grids
} with support films? We want to do IEM of filaments after digestion of
} the cytoplasmic membrane,
}
The one time I tried this (and succeeded) I just spread the carbon-
formvar-coated gold grids on the bottom of a culture dish, added PTK1 cells
and let the cultures sit at 37 degrees. YMMV, if your cells do not grow
over carbon-formvar; however, if you grow your cells on a treated culture
dish to promote adhesion, treating the carbon-formvar film the same way
should work (IMVVHO).

} Articles describing this technique mention specific kinds of reagents,
} grids, etc. Are there better brands, methods? We'd appreciate any tips
} to avoid a lot of trial and error.
}
} Source of gold grids? (supplier)

Probably makes no difference unless the "gold" in the grids contains
different impurities, and if these affect cell growth.

} Type of support film? Formvar/collodion)

If the hydrophobicity, texture, etc. of the film matches that of the
usual culture surface, you are likely to get the best results.

} Carbon coat? (heavy/light)

I'd reccommend it, unless you need uncoated formvar to match adhesion
conditions.

} Method of sterilization? (UV/gas)

Probably irrelevant, unless the surface is affected adversely.
Bear in mind that I am most definitely not an expert. Good luck.
Yours,
Bill Tivol





From: Ricky L Vaughn :      RLVAUGHN-at-MAIL.UNMC.EDU
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 11:36:22 -0600
Subject: EM scope in orbit "Ruska reply"

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I know we should drop this subject but...........This is like dejavu.
Several years back I was teaching the microscope structure/function
section of an EM course and began thinking how to explain the theory of
resolution, trying to make it interesting and not too complicated. My mind
wandered (as it does quite often these days) and got to thinking about
the effects of space and the resolution potential of an electron
microscope, The Phillips engineer happened to be here and blew it past
him. He wasn't sure what effects it would have but thought it
interesting. He said the main limitation in current scopes was the quality
of the lenses, but could we make better lenses in space then add that to
the vacuum, cold, and magnetic/gravitational variable and get a
significant increase in resolution? Just a thought, I realy don't want us
to get into the physics of this.

Rick




From: jennifer_wall-at-goodyear.com
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:57:53 -0500
Subject: ITO glass

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I know Elf Atochem in PA makes ITO. Don't know if it's for culture ch=
ambers
though....

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"swatkins/-at-pitt.edu" on 04/01/98 04:03:10 PM
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cc:

Folks, do any of you know of a supplier for ITO glass for making heated=

culture chambers
Thanks
Simon


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Director, Center for Biologic Imaging
University of Pittsburgh
Pittburgh PA 15261
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fax:412-648-2004
URL: http://sbic6.sbic.pitt.edu


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From: Nancy Zjaba :      Nancy.Zjaba-at-nsc.com
Date: 02 Apr 1998 13:25:00 -0800
Subject: SEM -- Lab design questions

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As a class project, I am writing a proposal for a (fictitious) SEM lab for a
university geosciences department. I am attempting to obtain the Alderson book
on EM lab design, but would like additional references. Any citations would be
appreciated.

Also, if any geoscientists have any suggestions for how they would like to see
an SEM/EDS lab equipped, I would be happy to hear them.

Thanks for your help.

Nancy Zjaba




From: CANTINO-at-ORACLE.PNB.UCONN.EDU (MARIE CANTINO)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:01:22 -0400
Subject: BSA in immunolabelling

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I have noticed that in EM immunogold-labelling protocols, BSA is often used
in buffer as an initial blocking step. In some protocols a BSA buffer
rinse is also used before the secondary antibody, and/or is added to the
primary and secondary antibody solutions. In other cases it is omitted.
My question, to immuno experts on the listserver, is whether there is a
DISadvantage to adding the BSA after the initial blocking step. As I
understand it BSA reduces non-specific binding, so it would seem prudent to
add it whenever possible.

Marie

Dr. Marie E. Cantino
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University of Connecticut
Storrs, CT 06269
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From: Alwyn Eades :      jae5-at-lehigh.edu
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 17:46:40 -0500
Subject: Microscopes in space

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In the mid-1970's NASA did send to universities a request for suggestions
for experiments to put into space. At the time I was at Bristol and put it
to my colleagues that would should submit a proposal to put a TEM into
space. My argument was that all the instability problems would go away.
No vibrations from vacuum pumps because there are no vacuum pumps - no
vibration from anything else either. No instabilities in the lens coils
because they would all be superconducting with no need for cooling
equipment. No sample contamination because the vacuum is clean. It would
make for perfect images. I was motivated by the thought that I might get
to go into space to operate it (I was younger then). I could not persuade
my colleagues to take me seriously.
Alwyn Eades
Department of Materials Science and Engineering
Lehigh University
5 East Packer Avenue
Bethlehem
Pennsylvannia 18015-3195
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From: Margaret Springett :      hukee.margaret-at-mayo.edu
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:49:17 -0600
Subject: BSA as a blocker

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Marie

You wrote: I have noticed that in EM immunogold-labelling protocols, BSA
is often used
in buffer as an initial blocking step.

If BSA is a problem i.e. failing to block non-specificity , there are
several other blockers that can be used. Ovalbumin and fish gelatin are
often "cleaner" blocking agents for gold labeling procedures. Also the
purity of BSA can be a factor, I always buy a grade of BSA that contains
greater than 95% BSA of MW 66,000. If I can be of further help, feel free
to contact me off the listserver.
Marge

Margaret Springett
e-mail hukee.margaret-at-mayo.edu
IEM Specialist at Mayo Foundation
1426 Guggenheim
Rochester, Mn. 55905






From: SALLY STOWE :      STOWE-at-rsbs.anu.edu.au
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 09:27:30 +1000 GMT
Subject: cameras for 300kV TEM

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We are looking at hi-res CCD cameras, preferably with video-rate
output as well, for 300kV TEMS (1000 x 1000 pixel, 12 bit minimum),
and would appreciate the benefit of other's experience regarding
quality, ease of use. longevity, radiation problems, value-for
-money, etc.
TIA
Sally Stowe
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From: CANTINO-at-ORACLE.PNB.UCONN.EDU (MARIE CANTINO)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:25:44 -0600
Subject: BSA in immunolabelling

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I have noticed that in EM immunogold-labelling protocols, BSA is often used
in buffer as an initial blocking step. In some protocols a BSA buffer
rinse is also used before the secondary antibody, and/or is added to the
primary and secondary antibody solutions. In other cases it is omitted.
My question, to immuno experts on the listserver, is whether there is a
DISadvantage to adding the BSA after the initial blocking step. As I
understand it BSA reduces non-specific binding, so it would seem prudent to
add it whenever possible.

Marie

Dr. Marie E. Cantino
Dept. of Physiology and Neurobiology, U-131
University of Connecticut
Storrs, CT 06269
Ph: 860-486-3588
Fax: 860-486-1936






From: Craig Lending :      clending-at-acs.brockport.edu
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 20:23:37 -0800
Subject: Re: BSA in immunolabelling

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I always use it in all solutions where antibodies and/or colloidal gold are
used, and as an initial blocking solution. I don't know of any reason not
to use it to reduce nonspecific staining, although cost might become an
issue if you do your washes in between steps in very large volumes.



At 05:01 PM 4/2/98 -0400, MARIE CANTINO wrote:

} I have noticed that in EM immunogold-labelling protocols, BSA is often used
} in buffer as an initial blocking step. In some protocols a BSA buffer
} rinse is also used before the secondary antibody, and/or is added to the
} primary and secondary antibody solutions. In other cases it is omitted.
} My question, to immuno experts on the listserver, is whether there is a
} DISadvantage to adding the BSA after the initial blocking step. As I
} understand it BSA reduces non-specific binding, so it would seem prudent to
} add it whenever possible.
}
} Marie
}
} Dr. Marie E. Cantino
} Dept. of Physiology and Neurobiology, U-131
} University of Connecticut
} Storrs, CT 06269
} Ph: 860-486-3588
} Fax: 860-486-1936
}
}
}
}
}
_____________________________________
Craig Lending
SUNY Brockport
Department of Biological Sciences
Brockport, NY 14420

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From: Ron Doole :      ron.doole-at-materials.oxford.ac.uk
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:15:12 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Re: cameras for 300kV TEM

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On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, SALLY STOWE wrote:
} We are looking at hi-res CCD cameras, preferably with video-rate
} output as well, for 300kV TEMS (1000 x 1000 pixel, 12 bit minimum),
} and would appreciate the benefit of other's experience regarding
} quality, ease of use. longevity, radiation problems, value-for
} -money, etc.
}
Sally,
I am also interested in this information, please forward anything not
posted to the list.
Ron
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Department of Materials, phone +44 (0) 1865 273701
University of Oxford, fax +44 (0) 1865 283333
Parks Road.
Oxford. OX1 3PH. UK.
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From: Armelle Gollotte :      a.gollotte-at-ed.sac.ac.uk
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:20:40 GMT
Subject: Re: BSA in immunolabelling

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Dear Marie,
I think the protocol you need to use depends on your primary antibody. If
BSA fails to block aspecific binding, skimmed milk powder can be a better
blocking agent. But whatever blocker I use, I include it in all the
reaction steps.
Armelle

Armelle Gollotte
Biotechnology Department
Scottish Agricultural College
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Edinburgh EH9 3JG
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Fax: (44) 131 667 2601
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From: Bo Johansen :      boj-at-bot.ku.dk
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 09:13:13 (=UT+2)
Subject: Re: BSA as a blocker

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Hi,

Magaret Springett wrote:

} If BSA is a problem i.e. failing to block non-specificity , there are
} several other blockers that can be used. Ovalbumin and fish gelatin are
} often "cleaner" blocking agents for gold labeling procedures. Also the
} purity of BSA can be a factor, I always buy a grade of BSA that contains
} greater than 95% BSA of MW 66,000.

In order to get a very 'clean' blocking I always use modified BSA-C
(Aurion) It is more expensive than quality grade BSA and Cold Fish
gelatin but I find it is much easier to use (you get it as a
non-sticky solution) and it gives a very clean and efficient block. I
have never had any problems using modified BSA-C.

Bo

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Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:02:32 -0700
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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 13:06:34 +0200
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From: Barbara Foster :      mme-at-map.com
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 09:09:46 -0500
Subject: Benchmarks

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Dear Confocalists,

Do any of you have benchmarks which you use when evaluating cameras,
digitizing boards, or image analysis systems? Also, are you using any type
of standardized slides for comparing systems?

Thanks

Barbara Foster
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From: Barbara Foster :      mme-at-map.com
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Subject: Benchmarks

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Dear Listserver members,

Do any of you have benchmarks which you use when evaluating cameras,
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of standardized slides for comparing systems?

Thanks

Barbara Foster
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From: Randy Tindall :      rtindell-at-NMSU.Edu
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 08:29:10 -0700
Subject: Re: Durst light bulbs

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Durst headquarters is at 10 County Line Road, Suite 29, Branchburg, NJ
08876. Phone is (800) 463-8778, and their fax is (908) 429-0777. You can
find a web site for them at http://www.photoshopper.com/durst/index.html.

If this fails to help in your bulb search, try such distributors as Bulbman
(sorry, don't have their address handy) or another of the specialists in
lighting equipment and bulbs. They have catalogs available and the one's
I've dealt with are very willing to track down obscure bulb types if you
can provide them with descriptions, identifying numbers, applications, etc.

Good luck.

Randy


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From: Ann-Fook Yang (Ann-Fook Yang) :      YANGA-at-em.agr.ca
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 10:49:40 -0500
Subject: BSA in immunolabelling -Reply

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Marie,

First of all , I am no immuno expert.
I use ovalbumin for initial blocking and wash grids on porcelain spot plat
filled with buffer and use blocking step again before secondary antibody
reaction. I see no merit of adding BSA or any other blocking agent during
washing.

Ann Fook

} } } MARIE CANTINO {CANTINO-at-ORACLE.PNB.UCONN.EDU} 04/02/98
04:01pm } } }

I have noticed that in EM immunogold-labelling protocols, BSA is often
used
in buffer as an initial blocking step. In some protocols a BSA buffer
rinse is also used before the secondary antibody, and/or is added to the
primary and secondary antibody solutions. In other cases it is omitted.
My question, to immuno experts on the listserver, is whether there is a
DISadvantage to adding the BSA after the initial blocking step. As I
understand it BSA reduces non-specific binding, so it would seem
prudent to
add it whenever possible.

Marie

Dr. Marie E. Cantino
Dept. of Physiology and Neurobiology, U-131
University of Connecticut
Storrs, CT 06269
Ph: 860-486-3588
Fax: 860-486-1936








From: Brad Tinkham :      tink-at-mail.utexas.edu
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:42:56 -0600
Subject: TEM sample prep

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I am preparing cross-sectional TEM samples of sapphire. I am trying to
find a good way to measure the samples' thickness when I am under about 70
micron. Any ideas?


Thanks,

Brad Tinkham






From: A. Kent Christensen :      akc-at-umich.edu
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:11:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: BSA in immunolabelling -Reply

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Marie,

For ICC blocking I use gelatin (Sigma Gelatin, G-9382, from bovine skin,
type III, approx. 225 bloom). This preference results from a sabbatical
year (1985-86) I spent in the lab of Daniel Louvard, then at the Pasteur
Institute in Paris. They had tried a good many blockers and decided on
this gelatin (easy to obtain and use, few cross reactions, etc.). They
blocked with 2% gelatin in PBS, and thereafter maintained 0.2% in washes
and vehicle for primary/secondary antibodies. A 10% gelatin stock was
stored in the refrigerator, and was warmed (for example under hot tap
water) to liquify for use.

Kent

A. Kent Christensen
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Medical Sciences II Building
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} } } } MARIE CANTINO {CANTINO-at-ORACLE.PNB.UCONN.EDU} 04/02/98
} 04:01pm } } }
}
} I have noticed that in EM immunogold-labelling protocols, BSA is often
} used
} in buffer as an initial blocking step. In some protocols a BSA buffer
} rinse is also used before the secondary antibody, and/or is added to the
} primary and secondary antibody solutions. In other cases it is omitted.
} My question, to immuno experts on the listserver, is whether there is a
} DISadvantage to adding the BSA after the initial blocking step. As I
} understand it BSA reduces non-specific binding, so it would seem
} prudent to
} add it whenever possible.
}
} Marie
}
} Dr. Marie E. Cantino
} Dept. of Physiology and Neurobiology, U-131
} University of Connecticut
} Storrs, CT 06269
} Ph: 860-486-3588
} Fax: 860-486-1936





From: Lesley Weston :      lesley-at-unixg.ubc.ca
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:07:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: RE: H & E Like Stain for Epon/Araldite

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What is Paragon stain, and where can I get it? It sounds like it's exactly what
I need, and I'm sure it would be usefulto the rest of the list if it's as
wonderful as it sounds. TIA.
Lesley Weston.



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} I, too, use the Paragon stain, but I do get a polychrome effect.
} I was wondering if you use a saturated Sodium Borate solution to enhance
} your staining. After drying the section on the hotplate, I put a 3 to 4
} drops of Paragon stain and one drop of sodium borate on the slide (still
} on the hotplate). The combination of heat and sodium borate enhance the
} Paragon stain quite nicely. You might want to try this before adding H
} & E to your "to do" list.
}
} Sharron G. Chism HT (ASCP)
} Electron Micropscopy Lab
} Harris Methodist Fort Worth
} Fort Worth, Texas
} ----------
} From: Garry Burgess
} To: 'Microscopy'
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} Date: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 2:25PM
}
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} In our diagnostic EM lab we currently use Paragon stain to stain our
} epoxy semi-thin sections, but it would be very nice if we had some kind
} of rapid H&E like stain that could give that kind of polychrome
} differentiation between the nucleus and the cytoplasm.
}
} The Paragon stain is supposed to be a polychrome stain, but what we in
} effect see is more of a monochrome direct stain.
}
} Does anyone know of a quick yet superior stain that might give us better
} results here?
}
} } Garry
}





From: valdemar :      valdemar-at-fast.net
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:39:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Integrated ISIS EDS System

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Dear all,

In a counterpoint to Mike Warfield's message, we have been very happy
customers of Oxford (Link Systems in its previous incarnation) since 1985.


We have one integrated and one stand alone ISIS systems. The stand alone
is a 2 y.o. ISIS 3.00 EDS replacement of an obsolete Noran on a 16 y.o.
AMRAY 1600 SEM. The other unit is a brand new ISIS 3.2 integrated into an
AMRAY 3200/C ECO SEM. (We also operate a 1985 vintage AN10 on a VG STEM
from the era.)

I was intimately involved in evaluation and purchase of both ISIS systems.
During the last five years, we have evaluated in exhausting detail every
brand of EDS equipment and found the Oxford detectors to offer the best
spectral resolution, and the software to be the most comprehensive and
useful. The Oxford software worked flawlessly in all demos and in our lab.
under Windows 3.1, 95 and NT 4.0.

We are an industrial lab serving several of our plants and many of the
plants' customers. A high throughput, very high reliability, and good
rapid service on our analytical equipment are paramount. In 1997, our old
SEM was used to examine over 2,100 samples, each a unique specimen, and
more than 90% required EDS analysis. During that time, the ISIS 3.00
performed very well and operated without a mishap.

As is the case in any new installation, we ran into initial problems, but
Oxford has bent over backwards to help us out through both installations.

In the 1996 Noran upgrade, we purchased a used (demo) ISIS 3.00 analyzer
sans the detector to inexpensively replace a third party kludge fix up of
an obsolete Noran EDS system, but we were keeping the old detector as it
seemed to work just fine. Following the installation, transient high noise
levels were experienced in the EDS spectra. Over the next few weeks,
Oxford engineers replaced every board on the system and, suspecting an
incompatibility with the modified Noran detector, Oxford provided us gratis
a brand new 30 mm2 thin window detector with 126 eV peak resolution. In the
end, it turned out that an intermittent noise originated from a flaky pulse
processor power supply, but Oxford let us keep the $20,000+ detector; well
above and beyond the call of duty. Since the replacement of the power
supply in February 1996, the system has operated flawlessly and it easily
adapted to an upgrade from Windows 3.1 to 95.

In the ISIS 3.2 integrated installation on the AMRAY 3200/C ECO SEM, we ran
into a problem of insufficient x-ray count rate. The detector resolution
was just fine (118 eV), but we needed to acquire spectra for 200 seconds
with a higher beam current for counts comparable to 50 s acquisition on the
old SEM. It turns out that I goofed and specified a 10 mm2 detector for an
operator used to working with 30 mm2. Also, the Oxford detector is aligned
for a sweet spot at a 25 mm working distance (from the objective polepiece
to the sample plane) and a tightly focused collimator prevented us from
getting x-rays at working distance shorter than 20 mm or greater than 30.
To compound the problem, an interference from a third party add-on, a
Robinson back-scatter detector, required the nosepiece of the Oxford EDS
detector to be withdrawn above the bottom of the objective polepiece when
the Robinson was inserted. The combination of smaller detector area and a
huge detector to sample distance killed the x-ray count rate. When we
contacted Oxford with our dissatisfaction of the system performance, the
response was initially slow and unfocused until we got past the newly
expanded inexperienced service staff once it became clear that our problems
went beyond the standard garden variety. An experienced service engineer
flew in from outside his working area within 10 days of our initial call,
and with an aid of a knowledgeable sales rep., helped to fully diagnose the
problem. The collimator on the detector nose piece has been modified and
we have tested it to our satisfaction at the sample to objective pole piece
working distance range of 15 to 40 mm. Oxford has also promised to make in
a short order a new EDS detector mounting flange to remove the interference
between the EDS and the Robinson backscatter detectors.

Having been there, I empathize with Mike Warfield's frustrations with his
equipment not working as well as it should. However, I think that not the
full story has been exposed here and that the finger pointing at Oxford is
less than fair.

Point #1:

Our older ISIS 3.00 runs just fine on a 66 MHz HP Vectra with 16 Mbytes
RAM. It is a stand alone system and has had no computer related problems
at all under Windows 3.1 nor 95. (We upgraded to 95 solely for better
compatibility with our LAN.) The integrated ISIS 3.2 and AMRAY 3200/C run
on a Micron 133 MHz P5 with 32 Mbytes RAM and 512 Kbytes L2 Cache under
Windows NT4.0. No computer related problems have manifested themselves in
this system either, though perhaps surprisingly the old system is somewhat
more responsive. (I do wish we did succeeded in getting through to the SEM
vendor that an integrated system requires a 300 MHz P5. Why pinch a few
hundred dollars on a $300,000+ system?)

It occurs to a few users, and it seems to fewer SEM vendors, but when two
machines (as in an integrated SEM & EDS system) are squeezed onto one
computer, at least twice as much RAM and twice as high CPU frequency are
required, and the perforce will still not be as good as of two stand alone
systems. That is because, though your CPU may be screaming at 500 MHz, the
RAM and the system buss still chug along at the same old 33 MHz while two
suites of software are time-slice multitasked and interrupts from two sets
of hardware are simultaneously serviced. Nevertheless, what little one may
have to give up in responsiveness WHEN AN APPROPRIATELY SCALED COMPUTER is
used for an integrated system is more than made up in convenience. (I just
can't imagine simultaneously operating two keyboards, two pointing devices,
and watching three monitors with any efficiency.)

Mike does not list the specifications of his PC, but I wonder whether it's
a poky old 486 with 16 Mbytes of RAM which works just fine running either
the SEM alone or the EDS alone but bogs down when asked to do both
simultaneously. (If there is not enough RAM the system may be rally
grinding to a halt while sloshing the programs back and forth between RAM
and the "virtual RAM memory" on the hard drive.) A RAM boost or a PC
upgrade might help here.

Note that this is an integrated EDS system onto the SEM by the SEM
manufacturer, and the responsibility for sufficient computer resources for
both systems lie with LEO and not with Oxford.

Point #2:

Windows 95 is a terrible operating system in general, and especially for
real time multitasking. It does not provide sufficient system resources
and it does not clean up after itself (just check the number of *.TMP files
accumulated on your hard drive). If fixes suggested in Point #1 don't
work, upgrade from 95 to NT4. If the software runs under 95 chances are
good it will run under NT4. ISIS 3.2 works flawlessly on our integrated
machine under NT4.

Again, the responsibility for choosing the appropriate operating system
lies with LEO.

Point #3:

Some SEM manufacturers rely on the purchaser to choose the EDS system and
will perform the integration as a courtesy to the purchaser. However, the
satisfactory site installation and subsequent service contract on the EDS
unit is the responsibility of the EDS manufacturer. This is the case with
our integrated system.

Other SEM manufacturers purchase an EDS unit as a commodity and sell the
SEM with an integrated EDS as one package. I imagine there is then just a
single service contract and the SEM vendor is supposed to service both the
SEM and the EDS. In principle this is a better deal because there should
be less finger pointing, but in reality the SEM vendor's tech. support is
not up to snuff on the EDS end and the user pays in frustration. I think
the LEO integration falls in this second category.

Point #4:

I am surprised that Mike is expressing his dislike of the Oxford user
interface at this point in the game. I think a more appropriate time frame
would have been during the evaluation period, well before the whole system
was purchased and paid for.


These opinions are mine alone and in no way reflect the views of my
employer. I bear no interest in AMRAY, OXFORD, or LEO.

Valdemar Furdanowicz

valdemar-at-fast.net
Homer Research Laboratories
Bethlehem Steel Corporation



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} From: mdwarfield-at-mail.hac.com
} To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: LEO 435 VPi with ISIS 300 X-Ray Analysis System
} Date: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 9:38 AM
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} Hello to all,
}
} We have been using a LEO 435 VPi SEM with an Oxford Inst. ISIS 300
} integrated system since December of 1996. Since day one, we have had
a
} series of problems with this integrated system, apparently caused by
} the common operating systems (first Win 3.1, then WIN95). It appears
} that the two systems do not like being integrated under one
computer,
} as the sharing of resources seems to cause lurking problems that
} randomly appear, and cause system failures. I would be interested if
} any other users of the ISIS 300 system have had any other similar
} problems. Oxford claims that we are alone with our troubles, but I
} find this very hard to believe.
}
} The first incarnation of our system used WIN 3.1 as the operating
} environment. This seemed optimum for the LEO as we encountered no
} system problems here. The ISIS though, would constantly run out of
} system resources and crash, usually without warning and lock up the
} system. It turned out that the ISIS is a resource hog (perhaps due
to
} being written in Visual Basic), and the upgrade to ver 3.2 did not
} help at all. We then upgraded the system to Win 95, and the resource
} problem with the ISIS appears cured, but we have uncorked a beast in
} the LEO. The LEO is being upgraded to a full win95 system soon, but
I
} am seeing more and more bugs with the ISIS.
}
} Am I alone in believing the ISIS to be a poorly conceived and
executed
} system? We have had endless conflicts with the operating system, to
} the point of having to reinstall win95 several times after apparent
} simple crashes, which seem to render several ISIS modules
unavailable
} after that. The user interface appears haphazard from module to
} module, with no user definable defaults to customize operation to
our
} preferences. The Labbook system forces users to collect data
according
} to the x-ray system parameters. We like to structure our data by
} customer and job parameters, and keep all x-ray and microscope data
} under one directory. This is impossible under the ISIS Labbook
system.
}
} I am greatly disappointed with the integration of these two
products.
} The LEO has been a fine system, with the operating environment keyed
} to usability, and endlessly customizable by the user. The ISIS is
user
} unfriendly, and rigid in structure. Unless the user follows the
} Labbook protocols exactly, the system is unavailable to them.
}
} Has anyone heard of a replacement operating environment for the
Oxford
} system? Our complaints to Oxford have been dismissed, and LEO is
} unable to effect changes to the abysmal Oxford operating system. I
} wonder if I am alone in my frustration with this unfriendly and
} quixotic x-ray system.
}
} Mike Warfield
} Hughes Space & Communications
} M&P Laboratory
}
}




From: JoAnn Buchanan :      redhair-at-leland.Stanford.EDU
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:03:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Durst light bulbs

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I also have a Durst 138 S enlarger. I use both the Pullam light
source (point)or 110V-200 Watt opale lamp (basically a giant light bulb).
Durst is still in business. I called the supplier I use and they can order
it from Durst for you. They are: Espinoza Photo Systems, 5213 A Clayton
Road, Suisun, CA 94585 Phone (707) 428-0912. Ask for Patty.
JoAnn Buchanan
Molecular and Cellular Physiology
Stanford University School of Medicine
Stanford, CA 94022

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From: Barbara Foster :      mme-at-map.com
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 14:16:29 -0500
Subject: Re: DIA: method for measuring slopes in profilometry

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At 05:08 PM 3/31/98 -0500, Heeschen, Bill (WA) wrote:
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Call the folks at Zygo. I am not sure if their complete software is
available, but they may have a fragment available which would solve your
problem nicely. Try either Bob Smythe at (860)704-5101 or Les Dock
(860)347-8506 (general number).

Wyko Corp. also has extensive experience in this area. They were recently
acquired by Veeco. The last number I have for them is (602)741-1297.

Best of luck.

Barbara Foster
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From: Simon Watkins
Date: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 3:49PM
Subject: ITO glass

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Hi Simon,
We've been buying ITO glass from Donnelly Optics Corporation of Tucson,
Arizona at 1-888-250-4455 (or 520-806-3800, Sales dept.). Although our
application is different we have been using 2 inch squares, the ITO
having a conductivity/resistivity of about 100 ohms per inch. If you
need only a few pieces of this glass I could arrange to get some to
you, otherwise try contacting Donnelly.

Good Luck,
Paul Gerroir
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Folks, do any of you know of a supplier for ITO glass for making heated
culture chambers
Thanks
Simon


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From: Garry Burgess :      GBurgess-at-exchange.hsc.mb.ca
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 15:29:09 -0600
Subject: FW: H & E Like Stain for Epon/Araldite

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Leslie,

Paragon stain can be made by mixing:

5.84 grams Toluidine Blue
2.16 grams Basic Fuchsin
12 grams Sodium Borate (Borax)
800ml 30% Ethyl Alcohol

and add a few grains of Thymol to preserve it.
LET IT AGE 2 WEEKS BEFORE USING!


} What is Paragon stain, and where can I get it? It sounds like it's exactly
} what
} I need, and I'm sure it would be usefulto the rest of the list if it's as
} wonderful as it sounds. TIA.
} Lesley Weston.
}
}
}
} On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Chism, Sharron wrote:
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} } Garry,
} } I, too, use the Paragon stain, but I do get a polychrome effect.
} } I was wondering if you use a saturated Sodium Borate solution to enhance
} } your staining. After drying the section on the hotplate, I put a 3 to 4
} } drops of Paragon stain and one drop of sodium borate on the slide (still
} } on the hotplate). The combination of heat and sodium borate enhance the
} } Paragon stain quite nicely. You might want to try this before adding H
} } & E to your "to do" list.
} }
} } Sharron G. Chism HT (ASCP)
} } Electron Micropscopy Lab
} } Harris Methodist Fort Worth
} } Fort Worth, Texas
} } ----------
} } From: Garry Burgess
} } To: 'Microscopy'
} } Subject: H&E Like Stain for Epon/Araldite
} } Date: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 2:25PM
} }
} }
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} }
} } In our diagnostic EM lab we currently use Paragon stain to stain our
} } epoxy semi-thin sections, but it would be very nice if we had some kind
} } of rapid H&E like stain that could give that kind of polychrome
} } differentiation between the nucleus and the cytoplasm.
} }
} } The Paragon stain is supposed to be a polychrome stain, but what we in
} } effect see is more of a monochrome direct stain.
} }
} } Does anyone know of a quick yet superior stain that might give us better
} } results here?
} }
} } } Garry
} }
}
}




From: scm5-at-ix.netcom.com
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 16:30:18 -0800
Subject: staining teflon

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I am faced with a problem of selectively staining teflon particles
impregnated in nickel matrix. I would really appreciate any suggestions
regarding the chemicals and/or the procedure to stain teflon particles.

Sanjay Mehta
OMG Fidelity
470 Frelinghuysen Avenue
Newark, NJ 07114
Ph. # : (973) 639-6725
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From: Lourdes Salamanca-Riba :      riba-at-eng.umd.edu
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:37:05 -0500
Subject: RE: TEM wedge polishing for sapphire

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Dear Chandu,

We have made samples of sapphire using the wedge technique and it works =
very well. Sapphire is a hard material, therefore, it is easy to control =
how much material you are removing even though it takes longer to thin =
it down. Since sapphire is transparent to light we glue a piece of =
silicon to the sample and use the change of color of the Si piece as a =
reference on how thin the sapphire sample is. =20

Good luck.

Lourdes Salamanca-Riba






From: Robert Mixon :      mixonr-at-ohsu.edu
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 16:59:02 -0800
Subject: H&E Stain

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Microscopists: There is an actual H&E like stain. Use Celestin Blue B and
Eosin after removing the plastic. A stain like this is almost indistinguishable
from H&E and in fact microtomists may all be using Celestin blue B as the
supplies of tropical logwood (source of dye for hematoxylin) dry up.




From: Busaya Apichaisataienchote :      busaya-at-su.ac.th
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 13:12:01 -0700 (GMT)
Subject: SEM

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Dear All,
I would like to have some suggestions about dehydration method of
mecelium of Actinomycetes (on plate and liquid culture) before using SEM.

NB.I do not have Critical point dryer .

Any suggestions I would be very appreciated.

Yours sincerely,
Miss Busaya Apichaisataienchote.





From: Jan Leunissen :      leunisse-at-aurion.nl
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 11:36:29 +0200
Subject: Immunolabeling and BSA/BSA-c

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There is a lot that can be said about additives to incubation buffers, the
composition of blocking media and washing procedures (and a lot more to
come probably!). I don't want to clog everyone's mailbox: we offer two
Newsletters (free) with in-depth information on the topic of specificity
and non-specific results in immuno. Those who are interested are welcome to
request Newsletters through our website http://www.aurion.nl. There is a
number of FAQ's re. immunolabeling taken up as well.

Just in short:
A distinction should be made between a blocking buffer and an incubation
buffer. They serve different purposes: the blocking buffer serves to bind
protein (BSA, Gelatine, Ovalbumine, Casein etc.) to sticky (hydrophobic)
specimen areas. The incubation buffer and wash buffer should prevent
background based on hydrophilic interactions (charges) by competition.
Different additives may be in order.
Many additives may work, although empirical finding sooner than logics
seems to be at the basis of their application. An additive that seems to
work fine with one set of primary antibody and secondary reagent seems to
be less suited with different reagents. With this in mind we have developed
Aurion BSA-c, which proves to be a great help with all kinds of antibodies
and immunoreagents.
} From a cost point of view it may be tempting to leave out additives during
the washing steps, although during washing unreacted antibodies or labels
may stick to the specimen when they're no longer prevented to.

Jan







From: Linda Barthel :      barthel-at-umich.edu
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 15:45:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Poly-L-lysine

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We use poly-l-lysine coated slides for all our in situs. During the
course of a month we will go through several dozen slides. Consequently
we have to coat slides quite often. All attempts with commercially
available slides have met with unsatisfactory results. We prefer the
quality of slides we generate "in house". What I would like is some
advice on storage of a large vol. of poly-l-lysine solution that can be
accessed and used on a regular basis. We make up 4 L of .05 mg/ml
poly-l-lysine solution in 10 mM Tris buffer in a large tray, store this is
the freezer and thaw when need. This system allows us to coat several
dozen slide simultaneously (we soak geletin coated slides in the PLL soln.
for 10-30 min). The problem is that the solution appears to generate a
ppt. during storage, a white "fluff".

Looking for all kinds of ideas

Thanks,
Linda Barthel
Research Associate II
Department of Anatomy and Cell Biology
University of Michigan
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Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:10:21 -0400
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From: Larry Albright :      albrite-at-Plasma-Art.com
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:25:04 -0700
Subject: Cedarwood oil/Sandy Perkins

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A friend gave my your e-mail. This is probably old news, however on the off chance this
will help, here is an address.
CH-Imports Ltd
3410 Deep Green Drive
Greensboro NC 27401
Phone 910-282-9734
Fax 910- 288-3375
Their Catalog shows 3 items:
Cedarwood Atlas Mardoc OG 71.50/KG
Cedarwood Crude Kenya OG 41 /kg
Cedarwood Forte USA OG 64.40 /kg
Cedawood Virginia OG 33.50 /kg
OG stands for Organically grown.?
Larry Albright

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From: John and Mary McCann :      mccanns-at-tiac.net
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:19:12 -0600
Subject: Announcement of LM Course

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"Fundamentals and Applications of Light Microscopy"

July 27-31, 1998 Waltham Massachusetts


A 5-day practical course on how to get maximum information from the light
microscope, taught by experienced microscopy problem-solvers.

Hands-on experience, a firm foundation in the principles of LM, and
knowledge of contrast enhancement techniques will be emphasized. A full
range of reflected and transmitted light microscope and contrast equipment
will be available for use by the students.

Although ideal for beginners, the course will also benefit experienced
workers. Students are encouraged to bring their own samples.


For Further information contac:
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From: Robert H. Olley :      R.H.Olley-at-reading.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:18:21 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Re: staining teflon

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On Fri, 3 Apr 1998 scm5-at-ix.netcom.com (Sanjay Mehta) wrote:

} I am faced with a problem of selectively staining teflon particles
} impregnated in nickel matrix. I would really appreciate any suggestions
} regarding the chemicals and/or the procedure to stain teflon particles.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

We have sometimes looked at PTFE under the electron microscope, with some
of our preparations involving "Tetra-Etch", which is, I think, a solution
of sodoum napthalene compound in an organic solvent (perhaps tetralin OR
tetrahydrofuran, hence the name.) This turns the surface of the PTFE into
a sort of carbon, which might take heavy metal stain (but we were using
replication, so we did not stain).

If I knew what sort of method was required (SEM, TEM, etc.) I might be
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From: Wolfgang Muss :      W.Muss-at-lkasbg.gv.at
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:29:12 +-200
Subject: Re: cartilage staining

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Dear Neil,
would you, please, kindly provide us with the information, what sections =
should be stained (paraffin, celloidin, if resin(s) which kind of??). =
Either, I think it would be quite difficult to stain only ECM which =
normally would be divided into pericellular matrix, territorial matrix =
and interterritorial matrix, respectively ("chondrones").
If you're looking for "cartilaginous lacunae" in order to measure such =
structures: believe me: they are artifacts of specimen preparation due =
to wrong fixation/dehydration schedules......but, perhaps, your =
colleague would be doing those measurements for a scientific evaluation =
of artifact-induction by poor fix, dehydration, embedding criterions.
If you like we could discuss that matter off the list.....


best wishes and good luck
Wolfgang

Dr. Wolfgang MUSS
Salzburg General Hospital (LKA)
Department of Anatomical Pathology,=20
EM-Laboratory
Muellner Hauptstrasse 48
A-5020 SALZBURG
AUSTRIA/Europe

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Von: Neil Hand[SMTP:mpznhand-at-unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk]
Gesendet: Montag, 06. April 1998 06:49
An: HistoNet-at-Pathology.swmed.edu
Betreff: Q: Cartilage staining, specific

This is a inquiry on behalf of a colleague (not working in Nottingham) I
recently received.

"I am currently looking for an optimal staining or sectioning procedure =
for
samples of ear and articular cartilage, whereby the stain is confined to
the extracellular matrix without staining (or very light staining) the
cells and nuclei within the cartilaginous lacunae. The reason for this =
is
to be able to accurately assess the ratio of extracellular matrix to
lacunar space by computerized morphometric analysis. Currently,
unavoidable staining of cells is obscuring the measurements made by the =
morphometric program, which uses gray scales and contrast to arrive at =
values".

Further details I do not have. Any suggestions you may have on this =
matter
would be appreciated.


Neil Hand,
Nottingham,
England UK.

___________________________________________________________________
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From: Chism, Sharron :      SharronChism-at-hmhs.com
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:01:00 -0500
Subject: Paragon Stain Procedure

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For everyone interested, here is the procedure we use to stain semi-thin
sections with Paragon stain.
Paragon Stain:
Ethyl Alcohol ................ 1,028 mls
Deionized water .......... 2,397 mls
These combine to make up a 30% ETOH solution. (Set this
aside for the moment.)

Toluidine Blue ............... 25 grams
Basic Fuchsin ................ 9.25 grams
Combine these in a 1 gallon (or 4 liter) container.

Add the 30% ETOH and mix well.

Allow the stain to stand for several days, then filter
into an amber gallon (4 liter) bottle
to protect the stain from light. (It will last a LONG
time!)

Filter the stain again before use.

Staining Procedure:
Transfer cut section onto a drop of deionized water
previously place on a clean
microscope slide.

Place the slide holding the section on a hot plate set
at 200 degrees C. Allow the
water to evaporate and the section to dry.

Drop 3 to 4 drops of filtered Paragon stain on the dry
section. Add a drop of saturated
solution of Sodium Borate. Continue to heat for 10 - 15
seconds or until the stain
begins to show a metallic sheen.

Using a wash bottle of 50% ETOH, gently wash off all the
excess stain.

Dry the slide with gentle heat using a blow dryer ... DO
NOT DRY ON HOT PLATE!


At this point, maybe I should point out that I use Spurr's resin. I
also keep a little Spurr's in the freezer to use as a coverslipping
medium for my semi-thin sections. I hope this is helpful!

Sharron G. Chism HT (ASCP)
Electron Microscopy Lab
Harris Methodist Fort Worth
Fort Worth, Texas




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From: RCHIOVETTI :      RCHIOVETTI-at-aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:47:13 EDT
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In a message dated 98-04-02 17:21:53 EST, CANTINO-at-ORACLE.PNB.UCONN.EDU writes:

{ { I have noticed that in EM immunogold-labelling protocols, BSA is often used
in buffer as an initial blocking step. In some protocols a BSA buffer
rinse is also used before the secondary antibody, and/or is added to the
primary and secondary antibody solutions. In other cases it is omitted.
My question, to immuno experts on the listserver, is whether there is a
DISadvantage to adding the BSA after the initial blocking step. As I
understand it BSA reduces non-specific binding, so it would seem prudent to
add it whenever possible.

Marie
} }
Marie,

I agree with you, and this is the way I've always used BSA. Some Abs seemed
to give more problems than others, or perhaps it was the phase of the moon, I
was never sure.

I would put it in all solutions (including the buffers and the diluents for
the Ab and the gold), only removing it from the final buffer and water washes
at the very end after the immunolabeling has been completed. This seemed to
work for me, and my reasoning was always, "if it ain't broke...."

Best regards,
Bob
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From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:09:15 -0400 (EDT)
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Dear Linda,
}
} What I would like is some
} advice on storage of a large vol. of poly-l-lysine solution that can be
} accessed and used on a regular basis. We make up 4 L of .05 mg/ml
} poly-l-lysine solution in 10 mM Tris buffer in a large tray, store this is
} the freezer and thaw when need.
} The problem is that the solution appears to generate a
} ppt. during storage, a white "fluff".
}
Have you looked at the "fluff" under the LM or EM? If it is poly-
l-lysine, you may have to divide the PLL into aliquots before freezing &
redissolve each aliquot before use. If it is something else--I can't im-
aging from your description that it could be bacterial growth, but a brief
examination would tell--you would have to identify it before deciding what
to do. Good luck.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
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Dear Mike,
}
} To the Light Microscopists,

I'm not a LM, but...

} Is it possible for one week old paraformaldehyde (originally
} in argon sealed ampules)-EM grade- to actually permeabilize membranes?
} (by some glycol formation). All comments are welcome.
}
Are these membranes--such as plasma membranes, mitochondrial
inner or outer, etc.--with which other microscopists have had preparative
experience, or are they unusual in some respect? Since I might expect
paraformaldehyde and/or some of its polymers to react with some membrane
components, it is possible that the membranes could become permeable to
some substances. What substance did they become permeable to? What was
its molecular mass?
Yours,
Bill Tivol




From: Janusz Chris Terlecki :      aas-at-pacbell.net
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 07:49:14 -0700
Subject: sputter coater

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Dear all,

Does anyone have a dysfunctional HummerVI sputter coater, which could be
cannibalized or purchased as a surplus item. I need vacuum pump (built
in, type G-50D made by ULVAC-Sinku Kiko or equivalent) for this coater.
Thank you in advance for your reply.

Chris Terlecki

Applied Analytical Sciences
3303 Harbor Blvd. Ste. H-4
Costa Mesa, CA 92626

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fax: 714-434-0294
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From: Microscopy Center :      emcenter-at-btny.purdue.edu
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What are recommended conditions for staining Epon generic or Spurr resin
sections with either the Celestin Blue/Eosin or Paragon stain? I would like
to know desired concentrations, temperature, time, etc as starting points and
any handy hints to improve success on a variety of tissues.

I have someone wanting to use a stain like this on rat liver, spleen and
lung. He has looked at the material in parafin with H & E but wants to get
better quality thick sections and then thin sections for TEM of selected
areas.

Debby Sherman, manager
Microscopy Center in Agriculture
Purdue University

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Microscopists: There is an actual H&E like stain. Use Celestin Blue B and
Eosin after removing the plastic. A stain like this is almost
indistinguishable
from H&E and in fact microtomists may all be using Celestin blue B as the
supplies of tropical logwood (source of dye for hematoxylin) dry up.

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From: Brad Tinkham
Date: Friday, April 03, 1998 11:42AM
Subject: TEM sample prep

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I measure the thickness of my samples that I have mechanically thinned
two ways. 1) a dial indicator mounted on a granite check block. Mine
is digital inches/mm with mm to the third decimal. Look in a tool
catalog. Zero on a mounting stub and slide the sample underneath. 2) a
dimpler. Zero the dimpler on a mounting stub and then place the sample
without wax on a measure the thickness.
----------

-----------------------------------------------------------------------.


I am preparing cross-sectional TEM samples of sapphire. I am trying to
find a good way to measure the samples' thickness when I am under about
70
micron. Any ideas?


Thanks,

Brad Tinkham





From: Woody.N.White-at-mcdermott.com
Date: 4/6/98 9:45 AM
Subject: sputter coater

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Chris,

If the HummerIV is anything like the III I once owned, a direct
replacement is not required. I managed to "shoehorn in" a Welch
pump. If I had it to do over again, I wouln't even put the pump
in the box, but behind it. ...Still a fairly short path for a
rough pump and the servicability would be decades better.

Woody White
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Dear all,

Does anyone have a dysfunctional HummerVI sputter coater, which could be
cannibalized or purchased as a surplus item. I need vacuum pump (built
in, type G-50D made by ULVAC-Sinku Kiko or equivalent) for this coater.
Thank you in advance for your reply.

Chris Terlecki

Applied Analytical Sciences
3303 Harbor Blvd. Ste. H-4
Costa Mesa, CA 92626

ph: 714-434-6894
fax: 714-434-0294
email: aas-at-pacbell.net




From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:54:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Powder deposition

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Dear Isabel,
}
} We're trying to make a deposition of 2 micron gold particles on a silica
} substrate.
} We cannot use an evaporator because we don't want a thin film: we want to
} deposit the particles directly on the substrate, keeping them isolated and
} without forming aggregates.
} At first we dispersed the powder directly on the silica, but SEM analysis
} showed they formed aggregates.
} Then we've tried making a suspension on etanol and then putting a droplet
} of the solution directly on the substrate. But still it formed aggregates.
}
} Does anyone know of a simple method to make such a deposit (without forming
} aggregates) ?
}
If the particles were all of like charge, they might not aggregate.
I suggest first making the substrate hydrophobic, if possible, then use an
atomizer to spray a suspension of the particles in water onto the substrate.
You will want to charge the droplets as they are leaving the atomizer (un-
less simply using the atomizer works). I'm sure there's a way to charge
the droplets--that's what Milliken (sp?) did with oil droplets to measure
the electron's charge. Another possibility would be to deposit a thin film
of wax on the substrate (with a conducting material also mixed in the wax)
and propel the particles so that they stick to the wax. Good luck.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




From: South Bay Technology :      Henriks-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:11:13 -0400
Subject: TEM sample prep

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Dear Brad:

An important first question is: What sample preparation method are you
using to prepare your sapphire samples? To measure the thickness of the
sapphire it is often useful to mount sacrificial silicon pieces around yo=
ur
otherwise transparent sample. Transmitted light is then used to monitor
the color of the silicon which can be correlated to a thickness value. Th=
is
is done quite frequently when tripod polishing samples and is a very
effective means of measuring the thickness. Of course, you will not be
able to measure the thickness until you reach about 10 microns where the
silicon starts to become translucent. This technique can also be used to=

ensure that you are polishing evenly across your sample.

We do have a mouse pad that I could send to you that provides a thickness=

scale for silicon as seen through both daylight and a tungsten filament i=
f
that would be helpful. =


I hope this helps.

Best regards-

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I am preparing cross-sectional TEM samples of sapphire. I am trying to
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micron. Any ideas?

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From: Steve Collins :      stevesbt-at-erols.com
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 16:35:31 -0400
Subject: Re: sputter coater

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Hello Chris:

Hummer VI coaters were orignally designed to accept several brands of
vacuum pumps including the smallest Leybold, Welch and the Varian pumps.
They can be bought easily on the used equipment market or from pump
reconditioning companies. If you can't find one to fit internally,
remote mount the pump and use a plastic vacuum hose to connect it to the
baseplate. It doesn't hurt the system to have the pump remote mounted
and you may find a larger pump on surplus easier than small one.

Good luck,
Steve Collins
South Bay Technology East




From: Sara Miller :      saram-at-acpub.duke.edu
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:24:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Poly-L-lysine

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What is the purpose of your poly-L-lysine??? If it is simply to get
sections to stick, then you would do well to switch to Fisherbrand
Superfrost/Plus Microscopy Slides, catalog #12-550-15, FisherScientific,
Pittsburgh, PA 15219. They are specially made for this purpose.

We use them exclusively and never lose sections,
frozen or epoxy. They are more expensive than plain slides, but
considering your time and your storage problems, you might like the
convenience.

I have no commercial interest in this product--just a satisfied customer.


Sara E. Miller, Ph. D.
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Duke University Medical Center
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From: Charlie Ginsburg :      cgins-at-Yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:05:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: cartilage staining

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Orcein stains cartilage on paraffin sections a pretty distinct deep
purple. You might check if it's neccesary to retain the cells, as
they might be removed with alkali treatment (KOH?). I don't know what
alkali does to orcein staining, but it would be easy to check.
Best of Luck,
Charlie Ginsburg
NCC

} "I am currently looking for an optimal staining or sectioning
procedure for
} samples of ear and articular cartilage, whereby the stain is
confined to
} the extracellular matrix without staining (or very light staining) the
} cells and nuclei within the cartilaginous lacunae. The reason for
this is
} to be able to accurately assess the ratio of extracellular matrix to
} lacunar space by computerized morphometric analysis. Currently,
} unavoidable staining of cells is obscuring the measurements made by
the morphometric program, which uses gray scales and contrast to
arrive at values".
}
} Further details I do not have. Any suggestions you may have on this
matter
} would be appreciated.
}
}
} Neil Hand,
} Nottingham,
} England UK.
}
} ___________________________________________________________________
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} Department Histopathology, University Hospital, Nottingham NG7 2UH.
} work : Tel: (0115) 924 9924 extension 43725
}
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From: L. D. Marks :      ldm3-at-apollo.numis.nwu.edu
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:36:28 -0500 (CST )
Subject: Position in Hard Coatings

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A postdoctoral position is open at Northwestern University to work
on In-situ deposition of Cubic Boron Nitride films, combining
Ultra-High Vacuum Electron Microscopy with in-situ growth.
Some details about the available hardware can be found at:
http://www.numis.nwu.edu
http://www.numis.nwu.edu/SINBAD
and see also Collazo-Davila et al, Appl Phys Letts 72, 314-316 (1998)
A strong background in thin film growth is required, and additional
background in TEM and UHV will be highly relevant. Interested applicants
should send a short CV via email to ldm3-at-apollo.numis.nwu.edu including
email addresses for references.



++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Northwestern University
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From: Kenneth Converse :      qualityimages-at-netrax.net
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 18:51:39 -0700
Subject: Re: I can't focus on the task

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Paula Sicurello wrote:
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} I am in need of a type 545 Polaroid camera back that has a frosted
} glass where the film holder usually is. My SEM pix look OK on the screen
} but if I make a print from the neg. it looks slightly out of focus.
} I've been told that I need to focus the camera to match the screen
} & this fancy camera back with the glass helps you do that. I know they
} exist because I saw one on an ESEM. Does anyone know where I can buy one?
} I called Polaroid and they were confused.
} Can anyone help me with this problem?
}
} My future looks fuzzy & so do my prints,
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} Paula :-)
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} Paula Sicurello
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You didn't say what kind of SEM. The Japanese ones all use Mimya
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From: kennedy-at-nsi.edu (Grace Kennedy)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:15:37 -0800
Subject: NGF

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Has anyone out there done any xNGF staining en grid, and could you possibly
give me some guidelines for fixation and embedding, i.e., can you osmicate
and what resins might be advisable. Many thanks Grace






From: Angelo Città :      acitt-at-tin.it
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 02:42:30 -0700
Subject: Advice on antigen preservation in frozen sections

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I am the senior anatomopathologist of Paediatric Institute of Research
of the University of Trieste(Italy). Due to two international
collaborative research projects we ought to send to UK and
USA(Baltimora) our frozen section of intestinal biopsies. These sections
will be analyzed for EmA(antibidies antiendomysium) in Celiac Disease
with Immunofluorescenze indirect and for cytokines TNF-alfa,INF-gamma in
IBD with ISH. I fix the sections with acetone-cholrophormio(1:1) and
store at -20=B0C (they last 2-3 months). I would like to know if there i=
s
any other technique to fix sections in a way I could store them at 2-6=B0=
C
and preserve them before searching for antigen for a longer period(such
as 5-6 months).Yours sincerly
Kind regards
dr. Angelo Citt=E0 Dept.Anatomia Patologica
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From: Steve Beck :      becks-at-sunynassau.edu
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:53:51 -0400
Subject: Summer 1998 - TEM Course Announcement

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SUMMER I 1998 COURSE ANNOUNCEMENT - Transmission Electron Microscopy
(BIO. 221-Section B)

NASSAU COMMUNITY COLLEGE, Garden City, Long Island, New York

A five week, Summer Session I 1998 semester, course in Biological
Transmission Electron Microscopy is being offered by the Biology Department
of Nassau Community College. This is a 4 credit course offered four days
per week (Monday through Thursday) between the hours of 8:00 am and NOON.
Classes will begin on May 26 and end on June 25, 1998.

This is a "hands-on" course emphasizing biological specimen preparation,
ultra-thin sectioning involving block trimming, glass knifemaking and
operation of the ultramicrotomes (Sorvall MT-2B and LKB Ultrotome III),
thick and ultra-thin section mounting and contrast staining (UA and Pb
citrate), grid support films (formvar, carbon), student operation of the
TEM (Hitachi HS-8, Philips EM 300) and production of electron micrographs
through the process of black & white photography, and electron micrograph
analysis. Students will work on a chosen sample(s) with the goal of
producing a portfolio of high quality TEM photomicrographs of that
sample(s).

The course is widely transferrable and the cost per credit is reasonable at
$86 per credit (for Nassau County residents or New York State residents
with a certificate of residency).

More information about the Bio-Imaging Center at NCC, course descriptions
and syllabi, and the beginnings of a student gallery of EM
photomicrographs is available at our web site. The URL is
{http://www.sunynassau.edu/webpages/biology/becks.htm} .

Interested individuals should register as soon as possible since the course
is limited to a total enrollment of ten (10) students.

If you have further questions, you should e-mail me directly at the address
below.

For information about mail or telephone registration (Dial-a-Course) point
your browser to http://www.sunynassau.edu/courses/sum98/sum98.htm.
Telephone registration is only available until April 30, 1998.

Stephen J. Beck
Associate Professor
Bio-Imaging Center/Electron Microscopy
Department of Biology
Nassau Community College
Garden City, NY 11530
Voice Mail: (516) 572-7829
Email: {becks-at-sunynassau.edu}
URL: {http://www.sunynassau.edu/webpages/biology/becks.htm}






From: Jim Darley :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:53:11 +1000
Subject: Re: sputter coater, pump problems

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Like Woody White, I replaced the original pump but with a larger model and
placed this under the bench; much easier to service and less backstreaming
of vapour.
The first Hummer with a triode sputter head suffered from sooting-up of the
sputter head. At the time I was able to demonstrate to the manufacturer that
the sooting-up problem was caused by the mineral oil and could be avoided by
using Fomblin rotation pump fluid. It's ancient history now but the problem
seemed severe at the time and when I was replacing the pump for the third
time I was consoled that "we have to replace over a hundred pumps."
The original correspondent needs to replace the original pump, and well he
might. However, some people may only need to have the right pump fluid and a
decent size pump. The original pump's capacity was too low.
Jim Darley

ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS
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} Does anyone have a dysfunctional HummerVI sputter coater, which could be
} cannibalized or purchased as a surplus item. I need vacuum pump (built
} in, type G-50D made by ULVAC-Sinku Kiko or equivalent) for this coater.
} Thank you in advance for your reply.
}
} Chris Terlecki
}
} Applied Analytical Sciences
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From: dmrelion-at-world.std.com (donald j marshall)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:22:23 -0400
Subject: backstreaming

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Re: sputter coater pump
_____________________________________________________________}
} Does anyone have a dysfunctional HummerVI sputter coater, which could be
} cannibalized or purchased as a surplus item. I need vacuum pump (built
} in, type G-50D made by ULVAC-Sinku Kiko or equivalent) for this coater.
} Thank you in advance for your reply.
}
} Chris Terlecki
}
}
Excuse my ignorance re: details of pumping system for sputter coaters but
some respondent have commented on backstreaming of pump oil. We use
mechanical pumps on visible light microscope cathodoluminescence attachments
using a cold cathode discharge and always use a simple foreline trap (copper
gauze type - ca$300.00) to reduce the backstreaming. Yearly maintenance for
trap is less than $50.00. Don Marshall

Donald J. Marshall
Relion Industries
P.O. Box 12
Bedford, MA 01730
Ph: 781-275-4695
FAX: 781-271-0252
email dmrelion-at-world.std.com

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:10:09 +0200
Subject: backstreaming

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I wish to receive notice about the book
"Manual of microscopic Analysis of Feedstuffs. 3rd Ed.
The Amer. Assoc. of Feed Microscopists, 1922, p. 73-93"
or the articles in the same book, autors BATES L.e coll.
Feed ingredient descriptions of animal origin.





From: CWADELTON :      CWADELTON-at-aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:46:32 EDT
Subject: HNU Service?

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Dear All,

A customer in the Chicago, IL area has asked for help locating service for
their HNU EDS system. They are having trouble getting service from the parent
company, and would like to locate a third party service organization. Any
information would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Chris Wadelton
Amray, Inc.
(800) 591-8791




From: Don Chernoff at ASM :      asm-at-indy.net
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 98 08:23:50 -0500
Subject: AFM wanted

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Advanced Surface Microscopy would like to buy used Digital Instruments
NanoScope equipment of the following types:
NanoScope II with AFM (contact mode)
NanoScope III with contact and/or Tapping Mode AFM and other related
equipment.

Please contact me offline, since I am not a regular subscriber to this
listserver.

Thanks very much.
Don Chernoff



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web: http://www.a1.com/asm Fax: 317-254-8690
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From: CWADELTON :      CWADELTON-at-aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:48:21 EDT
Subject: AMRAY E-mail

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Dear Listserver members,

The AMRAYINC-at-aol.com address was removed from the listserver this morning
because Amray is installing a new E-mail exchange system. The addresses will
be changing, in the interum Amray is still available via E-mail at the above
address as well as AMRAYSERV-at-aol.com (service) and AMRAYSALES-at-aol.com (sales).

Best Regards,
Chris Wadelton
Amray, Inc.




From: Andrey L. Chuvilin :      dusha-at-catalysis.nsk.su
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:30:53 +0700 (GMT)
Subject: HRTEM: image <-> diffraction orientation

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Dear list,
Similar question was discussed not so far, but I saw no reliable
solution. I'm sorry if I simply missed it.
The problem is to know diffraction orientation relative to the object
feature. I can defocus diffraction spots and see images of the feature
(edge for example) in each spot but I can defocus two sides and get
opposite directions. Which one is true? Or there is another method?
I do not need to calibrate rotation angle as it's always 0 (or 180deg?) at
JEM2010. I want to know definitely if it 0 or 180.
We need this to determine SiC and AlN polarity.

TIA
Andrew






From: Randy Nessler :      rnessler-at-emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:55:36 -0500
Subject: Reagent water quality?

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Hello to all,
We have been using another department's double glass distilled water,
and their still is down. Our building has a house "distilled" water
tap. I called to find out the method by which this water is purified,
and was told that the water is softened, passed through reverse osmosis,
deionized, filtered, UV sterilized, and delivered to the building at
about 15 megaohms of resistivity. This leads me to my question, what are
the standards by which other labs (biological EM) gauge their water?
Distilled vs deionized? Your opinions or a reference citing would be
greatly appreciated.

--
Randy Nessler rnessler-at-emiris.iaf.uiowa.edu
Views expressed are my own.




From: darnowsk-at-staff.uiuc.edu (Douglas W. Darnowski)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:30:40 -0600
Subject: Frosted focus

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In the recent emails regarding frosted glass, noone has mentioned why these
work well. I have been unable to find out why from several reference works,
so does anyone know? Is it that the uneven surface exaggerates the
out-of-focus appearance since there is then no even plane of focus on the
glass?

Doug Darnowski

******************************************************************************
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Department of Crop Sciences
384 ERML
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From: Andrey L. Chuvilin
Date: Tuesday, April 07, 1998 11:30AM
Subject: HRTEM: image <-> diffraction orientation

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I think that you can use the shadow image in a convergent beam pattern.
Underfocus the crossover and your shadow image in the BF disk lines up
with the diffraction pattern.

You can check this with GaAs from a known wafer because the orientations
are determined by etching the sample. The data sheet that comes with
the wafer should let you know what the absolute directions are using the
major and minor flats. You can prepare your sample very easily and
maintain the crystallographic orientation of the sample with the small
angle cleavage technique. John McCaffrey and I talk a little bit about
this in our paper on SACT in the MRS TEM Sample Prep IV (Vol 480).

I may be mistaken, but I also thought that the 180 degree ambiguity was
taken care of in the 2010.

-Scott


Scott D. Walck, Ph.D.
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Pittsburgh, PA 15238-0472

Walck-at-PPG.com

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Dear list,
Similar question was discussed not so far, but I saw no reliable
solution. I'm sorry if I simply missed it.
The problem is to know diffraction orientation relative to the object
feature. I can defocus diffraction spots and see images of the feature
(edge for example) in each spot but I can defocus two sides and get
opposite directions. Which one is true? Or there is another method?
I do not need to calibrate rotation angle as it's always 0 (or 180deg?)
at
JEM2010. I want to know definitely if it 0 or 180.
We need this to determine SiC and AlN polarity.

TIA
Andrew





From: Warren Straszheim :      wesaia-at-iastate.edu
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 14:36:48 -0500
Subject: Re: Frosted focus

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The frosting merely serves to scatter light from the film plane rather so
that you can see the image. If it were not frosted, the light would pass
thru - the glass would be invisible, and you would see no image.

If you could look at the image from the lens side you could focus the camera
using an opaque material in place of the film. But since cameras are sealed
up, they use the frosted glass so you can see an image from the back side.

At 11:30 AM 4/6/98 -0600, you wrote:
}
} In the recent emails regarding frosted glass, noone has mentioned why these
} work well. I have been unable to find out why from several reference works,
} so does anyone know? Is it that the uneven surface exaggerates the
} out-of-focus appearance since there is then no even plane of focus on the
} glass?
}
} Doug Darnowski





From: CANTINO-at-ORACLE.PNB.UCONN.EDU (MARIE CANTINO)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:07:14 -0400
Subject: Thanks

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To all who responded to my question about correct use of blockers, many
thanks. As usual I found the answers illuminating.

Marie

Dr. Marie E. Cantino
Dept. of Physiology and Neurobiology, U-131
University of Connecticut
Storrs, CT 06269
Ph: 860-486-3588
Fax: 860-486-1936







From: CANTINO-at-ORACLE.PNB.UCONN.EDU (MARIE CANTINO)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:16:34 -0400
Subject: Archival properties of dye sublimation prints

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A student in my laboratory has a number of digital images of gels and
transmission electron micrographs which she would like to include in her
thesis. I know that prints from our inkjet printer have poor archival
properties (they turn brown over a period of a year or so, depending on
light, air exposure), but we do have access to a dye sublimation printers
elsewhere. How long can we expect black and white dye sublimation prints
to last in a thesis without discoloring or fading? Given that these
printers haven't been around very long, does anyone actually know?

Marie

Dr. Marie E. Cantino
Dept. of Physiology and Neurobiology, U-131
University of Connecticut
Storrs, CT 06269
Ph: 860-486-3588
Fax: 860-486-1936







From: Rick A. Harris :      raharris-at-ucdavis.edu
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 14:02:51 -0700
Subject: Re: Archival properties of dye sublimation prints

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At 03:16 PM 4/7/98 -0400, MARIE CANTINO wrote:
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I posed this question to a Kodak rep at the last MSA in Cleveland. He
stated the prints were archival; that is, they should last at least as long
as properly fixed photographic material, at least 50 years.




Rick A. Harris, Director
Microscopy and Image Analysis Facility
Section of Molecular and Cellular Biology
1241 Life Sciences Addition
University of California
Davis, CA
530 752 2914
530 752 3085 fax
raharris-at-ucdavis.edu




From: michael shaffer :      mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:08:45 -0700
Subject: RE: Archival properties of dye sublimation prints

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} -----Original Message-----
} From: MARIE CANTINO [mailto:CANTINO-at-ORACLE.PNB.UCONN.EDU]
} Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 1998 12:17 PM
} To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: Archival properties of dye sublimation prints
}
}
} --------------------------------------------------------------
} ....
}
} A student in my laboratory has a number of digital images of gels and
} transmission electron micrographs which she would like to include in
her
} thesis. ... we do have access to a dye sublimation printers
} elsewhere. How long can we expect black and white dye
} sublimation prints
} to last in a thesis without discoloring or fading? ...

My experience with dye-subs is that grayscale prints are usually a
result of CMY printing, although two possibilities are (1) the CMY
ribbon also had a "K" of black component, or (2) a monochrome "K" ribbon
was used. If the prints were a result of "K" printing then they are not
likely to change color, but they may fade while the paper stock remains
white. If they are a result of CMY printing, they are liable to acquire
a pink or green tint (... not bad though ...).

Lastly, and at least for Kodak dye-sub printer engines, there exists a
ribbon/paper combination which lamenates and protects the image from UV
... or you can try to find UV protection, usually as a form of a spray,
to apply to print.

... hope this helps :o)

cheerios, shAf

{} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ cogito, ergo zZOooOM /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {}
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Geological Science's Electron Probe Facility - University of Oregon
mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu or mshaf-at-oregon.uoregon.edu






From: Scott Scientific Inc. :      admin-at-scottscientific.com
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:29:19 -0400
Subject: RE: Archival properties of dye sublimation prints

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I have been requesting to subscribe to the newsgroup, and have received no
response.

subscribe slakmon-at-scottscientific.com






From: wwxu-at-asu.edu
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 17:21:39 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Looking for Jacques Barbier

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Hi there,

I am wandering if anybody on this net knows Mr. Jacques Barbier's E-mail
address. I need his help.

Thanks for your attention.

------Weixin Xu------
Department of Geology
Arizona State University
Tempe, AZ 85287, USA

Tel: (602) 965-7250




From: Schibler, Matthew :      mschibler-at-bri.medsch.ucla.edu
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:21:19 -0700
Subject: RE: Archival properties of dye sublimation prints

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Marie,

It probably depends on what dye sub printer you have as to how well a
print will stand up to the passage of time.

A Kodak printer we had put a plastic coat on top of the dye as the last
step in the printing process.

An old Sony dye sub printer I had did not do this. The dyes would smear
if any moisture at all got on them. Also after several months in the
hallway under fluorescent light, the dyes would fade. If they were not
exposed to light, they kept their color 4-5 years and I suspect they
would keep much longer.

I do not know whether the plastic coating prevents the fading of the dye
when exposed to light a number of months because I haven't tested any of
these prints.

That is the extent of my knowledge on the subject. Hope it helps.

Matthew J. Schibler Ph.D.
UCLA Brain Research Institute
73-384 CHS 951761
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1761

(310) 825-9783
FAX (310) 206-5855
E-mail: mschibler-at-bri.medsch.ucla.edu

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} A student in my laboratory has a number of digital images of gels and
} transmission electron micrographs which she would like to include in
} her
} thesis. I know that prints from our inkjet printer have poor archival
} properties (they turn brown over a period of a year or so, depending
} on
} light, air exposure), but we do have access to a dye sublimation
} printers
} elsewhere. How long can we expect black and white dye sublimation
} prints
} to last in a thesis without discoloring or fading? Given that these
} printers haven't been around very long, does anyone actually know?
}
} Marie
}
} Dr. Marie E. Cantino
} Dept. of Physiology and Neurobiology, U-131
} University of Connecticut
} Storrs, CT 06269
} Ph: 860-486-3588
} Fax: 860-486-1936
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From: Allen R. Sampson :      ars-at-sem.com
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:46:14 -0600
Subject: Re: HNU Service?

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I would be happy to help. I was approached by HNU several years ago
to sell their instruments, and after visiting their manufacturing
facilities and meeting with their top brass, I decided that they were
lacking in many respects and I didn't choose to go with them. I
would be happy to help anyone, as best I can, who chose this
manufacturer as their intrusion into the market was ill-planned.

They assumed that the US manufactured EDS detector combined with the
German produced PC-based software would give them some market
advantage, and they were right for a very short time. But the
manufacturers who were more heavily invested in the art of EDS soon
translated their DEC LSI-11 based software into PC based
applications, and HNU was left out to dry as those manufacturers
produced PC based applications that worked well and offered the
market appeal of known market brands in the industry.

} Dear All,
}
} A customer in the Chicago, IL area has asked for help locating
} service for their HNU EDS system. They are having trouble getting
} service from the parent company, and would like to locate a third
} party service organization. Any information would be greatly
} appreciated.
}
} Regards,
} Chris Wadelton
} Amray, Inc.
} (800) 591-8791
}
}
Allen R. Sampson
Advanced Research Systems
317 North 4th. Street
St. Charles, IL 60174
PH 630.513.7093 FAX 630.513.7092 Email: ars-at-mcs.net
WWW: http://www.mcs.net/~ars
Analytical instrument maintenance services




From: Emilio Pastore :      epastore-at-ux1.unipd.it
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:23:54 +0200
Subject: Re: HNU Service?

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I wish to receive notice about the book
"Manual of microscopic Analysis of Feedstuffs. 3rd Ed.
The Amer. Assoc. of Feed Microscopists, 1992, p. 73-93"
or the articles in the same book, autors BATES L.e coll.
Feed ingredient descriptions of animal origin.





From: Emilio Pastore :      epastore-at-ux1.unipd.it
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:33:16 +0200
Subject: Amer. Assoc. of Feed Microscopists,1992. NOTICES!!

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I wish to receive notice about the book
"Manual of microscopic Analysis of Feedstuffs. 3rd Ed.
The Amer. Assoc. of Feed Microscopists, 1992, p. 73-93"
or the articles in the same book, autors BATES L.e coll.
Feed ingredient descriptions of animal origin.





From: Microscopy Center :      emcenter-at-btny.purdue.edu
Date: 8 Apr 1998 08:34:00 -0500
Subject: FWD>Archival properties of dye sublimation prints

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From: John Grazul :      grazul-at-BIOLOGY.RUTGERS.EDU
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:17:33 EDT
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Marie,
Archival properties depend on your particular printer and the printing
ribbon used.

We are on our 2nd generation dye-sublimation printer. Our first was
purchased ~ 6 years ago when the technology was very new. Greyscale prints
from this printer were made from an overlay of RGB color and tended to have a
purplish cast to them. The colors did fade when exposed to UV light but were
fine if kept in the dark the majority of the time. At that time there was no
product with the transparent UV-protectant overlay available.

We recently upgraded with a Codonics 1660 dye-sub printer. Two of the
main features I looked for before purchase was that there was a black and
white ribbon available and a color ribbon that incorporated the UV protection
overlay. This printer has both. The use of the black and white ribbon
eliminates the chance of any misalignment of the color sheets to get true
greyscale without hints of another color. Also available are RGB ribbons with
(approx. $3/8x10" sheet) or without (approx. $2/sheet) the UV-protection
laminate. We often use the less expensive color ribbon when output is not
intended for long term use and then switch to the ribbon with overlay for
final copies.

We have been assured that prints produced with the black and white or
color + overlay ribbon are indeed archival but time will tell!!

Debby Sherman, Manager
Microscopy Center in Agriculture
Purdue University
--------------------------------------

A student in my laboratory has a number of digital images of gels and
transmission electron micrographs which she would like to include in her
thesis. I know that prints from our inkjet printer have poor archival
properties (they turn brown over a period of a year or so, depending on
light, air exposure), but we do have access to a dye sublimation printers
elsewhere. How long can we expect black and white dye sublimation prints
to last in a thesis without discoloring or fading? Given that these
printers haven't been around very long, does anyone actually know?

Marie

Dr. Marie E. Cantino
Dept. of Physiology and Neurobiology, U-131
University of Connecticut
Storrs, CT 06269
Ph: 860-486-3588
Fax: 860-486-1936




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Fellow Scanners,

I have a Sharp 2400 DPI Flatbed which I am thrilled with but Sharp
has gotten out of the scanner market. So, whats the deal? Our
ceramics department needs to purchase a flatbed for TEM negatives,
slides, positives color B&W etc....Which one? The esteemed Dr. Mark
Farmer from the University of Georgia has suggested a Umax; I know
and respect Dr. Farmer and usually follow his recomendations so I
would love to find the North East distributer for Umax or if anyone
has another flatbed choice for our ceramics department I would
appreciate a reply.


48 degrees, dreary, and it smells funny in several areas...
just thought you'd like to know!
John Grazul
Rutgers University
Electron Imaging Facility




From: George Sibbald :      geos-at-goldrush.com
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 03:14:43 -0700
Subject: protein mapping

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Jerry

Try Magnetic AC atomic force microscopy.

High resolution (nanometer) imaging
Protein folding force measures
Protein binding force measures

This technique is still new enough that it requires a skilled microscopist,
but is certainly breaking new ground in microscopy.

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From: Schibler, Matthew
Date: 08 April 1998 06:26
Subject: RE: Archival properties of dye sublimat

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Matthew

you mention smudging with ink-jet inks. I have started using an Epson Stylus
600 and I notice that it doesn't smudge if you use the full glossy papers. I
don't know about fading, though but it may be useful to use the glossy
finish for more permanent results if your printer can use it and the cheaper
papers for routine work.

Malcolm Haswell
University of Sunderland
UK
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Marie,

It probably depends on what dye sub printer you have as to how well a print
will stand up to the passage of time.

A Kodak printer we had put a plastic coat on top of the dye as the last step
in the printing process.

An old Sony dye sub printer I had did not do this. The dyes would smear if
any moisture at all got on them. Also after several months in the hallway
under fluorescent light, the dyes would fade. If they were not exposed to
light, they kept their color 4-5 years and I suspect they would keep much
longer.

I do not know whether the plastic coating prevents the fading of the dye
when exposed to light a number of months because I haven't tested any of
these prints.

That is the extent of my knowledge on the subject. Hope it helps.

Matthew J. Schibler Ph.D.
UCLA Brain Research Institute
73-384 CHS 951761
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(310) 825-9783
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From: Luc Harmsen :      anaspec-at-icon.co.za
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:31:43 +0200
Subject: Oxford XP3 pulse processor needed.

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Hi all.

We were wondering if anybody out there may have a spare XP3 pulse processor we
could by at a good price ?
We have a specific need for high count rates off an Oxford detector. The XP3
has a fast process time of 2.5?sec which is ideal.

Thanks.

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From: Stephen A. Shaffer :      sshaffer-at-microdataware.com
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 08:20:22 -0700
Subject: Meeting Announcement - SF Micro. Soc.

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Meeting Announcement
San Francisco Microscopical Society

Thursday, April 9, 1998
Rockridge Branch, Oakland Public Library
7:00 P.M.

"Microscopic Pond Life"
by Rick Ellis

Rick Ellis is a microscopist and photomicrographer whose talks we have
all enjoyed in the past. This promises to be another fascinating
evening as Rick takes us on an exploration of the rich and varied
world of pond microorganisms. This is the type of microscopy that is
readily available to everyone (especially in this year of El Ni=F1o). We
will have a Saturday Workshop later this year to collect and examine
pond critters, so this will be a good opportunity to see what you can
expect to find, and how to prepare the samples for examination. Please
join us!

Further Particulars:

http://www.microdataware.com/sfms

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From: John Grazul
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 09:05:39 -0700
Subject: Umax flarbed Scanners

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We recently purchased a Umax Powerlook III (a new model, about $2k U.S.). They
call it a "42-bit" scanner through a bit enhancement technology, and it has a
real resolution of 1200 x 2400 dpi. At any rate, it seems to work pretty good
for both negatives and prints. The software is not overly intuitive and we
received no book on how to use it but we have generally worked out the kinks and
are fairly happy. It won't capture everything on your negatives since their
grain size is smaller than the available resolution and their dynamic range is
higher than what we can get (3.4, I think), but it works well for those times
when you don't want to print or need to bring out a feature on the negative.

Their web address is : http://www.umax.com/ and it contains links to resellers
in specific regions of the U.S. (and perhaps internationally; I didn't look).

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

John Vetrano

----------

Fellow Scanners,

I have a Sharp 2400 DPI Flatbed which I am thrilled with but Sharp
has gotten out of the scanner market. So, whats the deal? Our
ceramics department needs to purchase a flatbed for TEM negatives,
slides, positives color B&W etc....Which one? The esteemed Dr. Mark
Farmer from the University of Georgia has suggested a Umax; I know
and respect Dr. Farmer and usually follow his recomendations so I
would love to find the North East distributer for Umax or if anyone
has another flatbed choice for our ceramics department I would
appreciate a reply.


48 degrees, dreary, and it smells funny in several areas...
just thought you'd like to know!
John Grazul
Rutgers University
Electron Imaging Facility





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Date: 4/8/98 9:17 AM
Subject: Umax flarbed Scanners

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I have used both Umax and Microtek brand scanners (SCSI I/O). No problems
with
either. They can be purchased from any number of computer suppliers like
Computability, CDW, Microsystems Warehouse, B&H Camera, etc.

Woody White
McDermott Technology, Inc.
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Fellow Scanners,

I have a Sharp 2400 DPI Flatbed which I am thrilled with but Sharp
has gotten out of the scanner market. So, whats the deal? Our
ceramics department needs to purchase a flatbed for TEM negatives,
slides, positives color B&W etc....Which one? The esteemed Dr. Mark
Farmer from the University of Georgia has suggested a Umax; I know
and respect Dr. Farmer and usually follow his recomendations so I
would love to find the North East distributer for Umax or if anyone
has another flatbed choice for our ceramics department I would
appreciate a reply.


48 degrees, dreary, and it smells funny in several areas...
just thought you'd like to know!
John Grazul
Rutgers University
Electron Imaging Facility




From: John Grazul :      grazul-at-BIOLOGY.RUTGERS.EDU
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:10:55 EDT
Subject: Re: FW: Umax flarbed Scanners

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Umaxers, Scanners, Microscopists,

I can't thank you all enough. It looks as if Umax will be making a
sale here real soon

Again, thanks.

Humid, 60 degrees, loads of traffic, and it still smells funny
Loads of laffs from the Garden State


John Grazul
Rutgers University
Electron Imaging Facility




From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 98 15:19:37 -0500
Subject: "Unicryl" resin

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Debby Sherman wrote:
==========================================
Unicryl is made by BBInternational and distributed in the USA by Vector
Laboratories, Inc. (1-800-227-6666). They are a CA based company and are
not open yet today. I did call there yesterday and asked for a method
booklet on Unicryl and the individual who I talked to did not indicate that
the resin was unavailable.
===========================================
The embedding resin, Unicryl(TM), is the product of the following:

British Biocell International Ltd.
Golden Gate Ty Glas Avenue
Cardiff CF4 5DX UK

Ph: 44 (0) 1222 747-232
FAX:44 (0) 1222 747-242
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Email: 100631.1601-at-compuserve.com


SPI Supplies has imported Unicryl resin into the USA almost since its
inception as a product and it is now also available from a number of the
other suppliers of chemicals to microscopy laboratories, for example, Pella
and EMS.

The debate on which embedding resin is or is not "better" will probably
still be going on long after we are all gone from this word. At least some
of our customers have reported excellent results with Unicryl but the one
thing that does seem to stand out is that there is a perception among those
who are sensitized (from a dermatitis standpoint) to this class of acrylic
resins is that the Unicryl system is "milder" than the others. Now I will
be the first to admit that this is not a very scientific sampling but if one
should be listening to their customers, this is one thing at least some of
them have been telling us.

I for one would welcome any kind of dialogue describing the experiences
people have had with these different resin systems. If some are "better" or
"worse" from a dermatological standpoint, it would be good to have the
benefit of the collective experience of those working with these different
media.

Chuck

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From: WayneKaboord-at-eaton.com
Date: 8 Apr 98 16:13:35 EDT
Subject: If I had a Kevex System to sell ?

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Hypothetically, if I had a fully loaded, 1 year old Kevex Sigma 4 system
available (no detector), would anyone be interested in purchasing it and
what would be a fair asking price. The system was purchased for $75,000 1
year ago.


Wayne Kaboord
Materials Research Specialist
Eaton Corporation
Innovation Center
4201 North 27th Street
Milwaukee, WI 53216
414-449-7783
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From: William R. Oliver :      oliver-at-cpt.afip.org
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:22:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Umax flarbed Scanners

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Please note that this is a personal observation and does
not reflect the opinion of my office nor of any group
associated with me.

I use a Umax Powerlook II as the workhorse machine in my lab, and
have been generally happy. We will likely be moving to one of the
newer machines soon. However, you should look at some reviews
in the consumer press before making a final decision. Some folk
in the lab next to me use an Agfa scanner, and they are happy with
it.

The biggest criticism of the Umax scanners that I have seen in the
press is that they sometimes do not give as great a depth or
discrimination of tone as some competitors. For instance, if you
place a sheet with 256 greyscale values in the scanner, it may
only give you 200 values. I tried something like that with my
scanner after I read the review and noticed the following:

If I took 256 values from black to white I got about
240 values out, which was pretty good. If, however, I took 256
values from dark grey to light grey, it did much more poorly --
about 150 values. In other words, there was no way to calibrate
the illumination or sensitivity of the sensor to adjust for
a dingy image.

In one sense, the scanner was "correct" in that I put in a
dingy image and got dingy results. However, if one wants to
take data acquired from a scanner and do image processing, one
wants as much data as possible from that scanner. And that
means that one would like to fill those 256 levels with whatever
is available.

Ideally, one would want to be able to modify the illumination of
the scanner to get a full 256 tone values out of an image,
regardless of what the brightest and darkest regions are. The
"histogram stretching" functions of the TWAIN driver software
do *not* accomplish this; instead it simply does a stretch *after*
data acquisition (at least as I have observed). Thus, you still
get only, 150 grey values instead of 256, but they are
stretched between 0 and 255.

This may not be a problem for you, but since I do image processing,
I am very interested in getting as many tone levels as I can out
of an image. I am *not* sure if competitors are all that much
better, but you might want to look at some of the reviews which
actually do quantitative measurements before you buy.

billo




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From: David Knecht :      knecht-at-uconnvm.uconn.edu
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:16:38 -0500
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In response to Bill's comments, I have both an Agfa and two UMax scanners
and I personally love the Umax's and would never buy another Agfa. Both
give acceptable images and neither is consistently perfect. The difference
is in the software. Trying to manipulate gain and black level on the Agfa
is complicated and time consuming, whereas the Umax is fast and intuitive.
My first UMax is still working 9 years later and still gives fine images.
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From: Lewis Ling :      lling-at-ccs.carleton.ca
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 10:29:05 -0400
Subject: Lquid Nitogen Container Repair

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Having trouble finding a company to repair a 10 liter metal dewar. (lost
vacuum)
We are located in Ottawa Canada





From: mpalladino-at-brookdale.cc.nj.us (Mike Palladino)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 12:42:32 -0400
Subject: Ultramicrotome

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I am a faculty member at Brookdale Community College in Lincroft, NJ who
operates a Zeiss 9C TEM which was donated to the College. Unfortunately,
however, we do not have a knife maker or ultramicrotome for tissue
preparation. Does anyone know of a used ultramicrotome and knife maker
which can be purchased for a reasonable price? (or perhaps even donated to
the College) Thanks in advance for your help.

Mike Palladino


Michael A. Palladino, Ph.D.
Instructor of Biology
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From: Nestor J. Zaluzec :      zaluzec-at-aaem.amc.anl.gov
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:28:24 -0600
Subject: Java Tools for Microscopy & Microanalysis

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Colleagues

I've been SLOWLY converting some of my generic Microscopy & Microanalysis
Software to Java.

If you feel like being a Beta tester have a look at this WWW Site.

http://tpm.amc.anl.gov/NJZTools

None of the code is in anything near a final state, but I'm putting the
programs on-line
for anyone that might be interested.

Lots of development and debugging is still in progress and always comments
are appreciated.

Sticks, Stones, and Spears will just bounce off my Hat as usual, but will
get my attention.

Cheers..
Nestor
Your Friendly Neighborhood SysOp

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From: Renee Recker :      heyrenee-at-renorex.com
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 15:20:19 -0500
Subject: microscopy education

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Currently I work as a corporate web designer and use Photoshop imaging
software daily for the past 4 years. I am concerned as to how to combine
my visual imaging skills with my interest in natural and physical
science (so-so on medical). At 44, I am intimidated by the notion of
schooling for many years. What is entailed and where can I ask about a
microscopy program in New York City. I believe the visual aspect of
scientific analysis is fascinating.

I am volunteering web pages for the invertebrate scientists at the
American Museum of Natural History and have seen their electronic
microscope equipment (I was asked to teach Photoshop so that the
scientists could color the scans) and other imaging equipment and 3-d
software. Thrilling!! I treasure my book on microscopic art (Felice
Frankel). Also, I perform nature photography when away from the city.

Thank you in advance for any education or vocation advice you have time
to give.

Renee Recker
16 W. 16th St.
NYC, NY 10011
212-675-1665

some samples of web pages for Amer. Museum of Nat. History:
http://www.renorex.com/invertebrateshome
http://research.amnh.org/~mikkel

my own site:
http://www.renorex.com





From: Lewis Ling
Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 7:29AM
Subject: Lquid Nitogen Container Repair

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From: alan stone :      as-at-popmail.mcs.net
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:41:44 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: LM:Need Xenon Lamphouse Repairs

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We have two Leitz metallographs and are having problems with the 450 watt
xenon lamphouses on both.

One has operated fine for the last 15 years (same bulb!) Recently, I noticed
an odor after about 15 minutes of continuous use, perhaps a burning
phenolic. We replaced the transformer in the high voltage unit, but the
odor persisted. Predictably, something finally blew and now the bulb will
not ignite.

The other metallograph was fine and then one day the xenon bulb would not
ignite. We replaced the bulb and it still fails to ignite (though the high
voltage unit attempts ignition).

Are there any optical service engineers in the Chicago area knowledgable in
xenon units. The bulbs are high pressure and hazardous to the uniformed. I
suspect that there are either connection problems or blown components in the
high voltage units.

If anyone can help, then please reply off-line or call me directly.

Thank you.

Alan Stone
ASTON Metallurgical Services
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From: Keith Rickabaugh :      keithr-at-rjlg.com
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 17:45:31 -0400
Subject: Web Site Changes

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We have recently made some changes to our web site. Please visit us at
www.rjlg.com. We would greatly appreciate any comments or opinions you may
have pertaining to your visit.



Keith Rickabaugh
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From: Rick L Vaughn (Ricky L Vaughn) :      RLVAUGHN-at-MAIL.UNMC.EDU
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 18:02:38 -0500
Subject: stereo pairs

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Hey there imaging buffs
1) Is there a way to create the red/green 3D images using stereo pair
TEM mages without buying an expensive 3D imaging program?
2) What thickness of sections would be needed for TEM work to get
the effect of 3D depth?
3) What is the best angle? I would be using a Philips 410LS
w/goniometer tilt stage. I'm going to hit the library but tips from the horses
mouth are always much better. Thanks in advance.

Rick Vaughn
RLVAUGHN-at-MAIL.UNMC.EDU




From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 98 20:03:27 -0500
Subject: Gold particle dispersion

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Isabel Nogueira wrote:
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We're trying to make a deposition of 2 micron gold particles on a silica
substrate. We cannot use an evaporator because we don't want a thin film:
we want to deposit the particles directly on the substrate, keeping them
isolated and without forming aggregates. At first we dispersed the powder
directly on the silica, but SEM analysis showed they formed aggregates.
Then we've tried making a suspension on etanol and then putting a droplet of
the solution directly on the substrate. But still it formed aggregates.

Does anyone know of a simple method to make such a deposit (without forming
aggregates) ?
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There are three ways I could suggest, not based on experience specifically
with gold particles, but by extrapolation from the dispersal of other fine
particles and powders:

a) Camphor/naphthalene dispersion method (I described this previously and
it should be available in Nestor's archives), where by the powder to
dispersed is added to a 60% camphor/40% naphthalene (the eutectic
composition of the system) which becomes a liquid at a few degrees above
room temperature. Putting a drop of the suspension on your substrate will
result in its instantly freezing. Put substrate and all into a vacuum over
night (mechanical pump is enough) and by morning, the camphor/naphthalene
would have sublimed away leaving the gold particles nicely and finely
dispersed. You would regulate the degree of coverage by controlling the
loading of the eutectic solution and the amount deposited.

b) Dispersion in an organic solvent but add a small amount of Parlodion (R)
or perhaps any of the other similar in composition materials (e.g. Collodion
(R)). After dispersal on the substrate, you would remove the organics with
a barrel-geometry plasma etcher. The gold particles should be left in situ
and not agglomerate. The adhesion to the substrate with (a) might be better
than with (b).

c) Variation on the above, but using water, which is then applied to the
substrate while the substrate is below the water freezing point. The ice
is then sublimed away over night in a freeze fracturing device, leaving the
gold particles dispersed without agglomeration.


However, some powders just do not want to disperse, perhaps because they are
to some degree aggregates and not simply agglomerates. Being able to use a
method that can be tightly controlled, such as (a) or (b), is sometimes the
only way to discriminate between different samples where their only real
differences happen to be their degrees of aggregation (vs. agglomeration).
Over the years we have seen on occasion, large (I call 2 um "large") gold
particles as in thick film paste systems that have been doublets and
triplets, etc. so it is not impossible that at least some of your problem
could be that not all of the particles are in fact single individual
particles.

Disclaimer: Structure Probe, Inc. performs these kinds of services for
clients as a regular part of our business.


Chuck

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From: Crossman, Harold :      crossman-at-osi.sylvania.com
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:02:28 -0400
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Could a local air conditioning/refrigeration/plumbing company help? How
about an appliance repair shop? Brazing companies? Heat exchanger
builders/rebuilders? Automobile radiator repair shop? Local technical
university?

My $0.02

Harold J. Crossman
OSRAM SYLVANIA INC.
Lighting Research Center
71 Cherry Hill Dr.
Beverly, MA 01915
(978) 750-1717
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From: Warren Straszheim :      wesaia-at-iastate.edu
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:44:42 -0500
Subject: Re: stereo pairs

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Conceptually it should be quite possible and straightforward.

We collect the left and right B/W images using a 4 to 6 degree tilt between
the views for our SEM work. Much more than 6 degrees gets unnatural. It
represents crossing the eyes too much.

Since I work with the SEM, I don't know what the sample requirements would
be for TEM. I would think as long as you have some topographic relief you
should be okay. Even layers of atoms might be enough if you are at high
enough mag.

Once you have the images, you can easily change the hues for the one from
gray to red and the other from gray to green or blue using programs like
PhotoShop. Preparing the anaglyph simply requires merging the two colored
images into one true-color image. Since one image would supply the red
intensity and the other the green intensity, it should be straightforward -
I can think of how I would write a program to do it. But maybe the Photoshop
gurus can tell what buttons to push to make it happen.

At 06:02 PM 4/9/98 -0500, you wrote:
} Hey there imaging buffs
} 1) Is there a way to create the red/green 3D images using stereo pair
} TEM mages without buying an expensive 3D imaging program?
} 2) What thickness of sections would be needed for TEM work to get
} the effect of 3D depth?
} 3) What is the best angle? I would be using a Philips 410LS
} w/goniometer tilt stage. I'm going to hit the library but tips from the horses
} mouth are always much better. Thanks in advance.
}
} Rick Vaughn
} RLVAUGHN-at-MAIL.UNMC.EDU
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From: Keith Ryan :      kpr-at-wpo.nerc.ac.uk
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:52:22 +0100
Subject: re. stereo pairs

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re. stereo pairs

Dear Rick

I have had more success with SEM stereo pairs! The best results from TEM came from 0.1-0.5
um-thick sections. All tilted about 6 degrees. I have not done a lot of TEM because it was never
very effective with normal ultrathin sections. It may be better with freeze fracture replicas and
other specimens on formvar/carbon films such as direct prep. cells etc.

Take the stereo pair of images. Make good sized prints. Then get a friendly photgraphic person
to photograph one print using a red filter onto colour slide film. Then double expose with the
other print - in other words, photograph the second print onto the same film using a green filter.
You then have effective stereo which you can show at meetings using red/green glasses and
only one projector.

There is a convention which I forget regarding which way around you do this so that you hold the
glasses properly. I'm replying to this from home, also my friendly photographer is skiing in
Canada at the moment! Write back if you need the details (and if he survives Lake Louise or
wherever he's gone this time!).

Keith Ryan
Plymouth Marine Lab., UK

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From: Rick L Vaughn Ricky L Vaughn :      RLVAUGHN-at-MAIL.UNMC.EDU
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:02:38 +0100
Subject: stereo pairs

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Hey there imaging buffs
1) Is there a way to create the red/green 3D images using stereo pair
TEM mages without buying an expensive 3D imaging program?
2) What thickness of sections would be needed for TEM work to get
the effect of 3D depth?
3) What is the best angle? I would be using a Philips 410LS
w/goniometer tilt stage. I'm going to hit the library but tips from the horses
mouth are always much better. Thanks in advance.

Rick Vaughn
RLVAUGHN-at-MAIL.UNMC.EDU





From: John W Heckman :      heckman-at-pilot.msu.edu
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:36:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: stereo pairs

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Rick,

I use Photoshop to do this in my bio TEM class, but you should be able to do
it in NIH Image (can't beat the price). You could theoretically do on any
section thickness, the effect depending on the magnification of the
structure viewed. You make each image a different color, adjust the
transparency and overlay them. You can view them on screen or output
them to various hard copy media.

I usually have the students use their replicas (usually freeze-fractured
yeast) since these have a 3-d topography, but I've also done this with
chloroplasts in "thick" (about 250nm) section (don't stain them if you've
used OsO4); they are just O.K. at 100kV. Depending on what you want to
see, you can leach out a lot of background density by using KMnO4 and
maybe work with thicker sections. More volts should also help as would an
energy filter.

The best angle is dependent on the effect desired. To get an idea of the
range of sizes and angles you can work with you might get a hold of
Heuser, 1989 Journal of Electron Microscopy Technique 13: 244-263 and
Steere, R.L. In Chapter 5 of Current Trends in Morphological Techniques
Vol 2 CRC Press 1981. These deal mostly with conventional stereo pairs
and replicas but the approach and geometry is similar .

cheers,
John Heckman
TEM Supervisor
Center for Electron Optics
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} the effect of 3D depth?
} 3) What is the best angle? I would be using a Philips 410LS
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}
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From: Rick L Vaughn
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:50:15 -0700
Subject: stereo pairs

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For the first question, here is a good starting point on the Web:
http://www.tisco.com/3d-web/

There is a link called "how to make..." but it wouldn't come up. I don't know
if that page is gone or just down temporarily. Basically you probably need to
use Adobe Photoshop. We have used that quite successfully in making these
images. There may be other ways, but if you want to do it digitally, you need a
program that can separate the color channels.

My colleague with the good notes on the second two questions is out of town but
if I don't see other answers forthcoming I'll have him contact you when he gets
back. He images dislocation stereo pairs often.

Cheers, John Vetrano
john.vetrano-at-pnl.gov

----------

Hey there imaging buffs
1) Is there a way to create the red/green 3D images using stereo pair
TEM mages without buying an expensive 3D imaging program?
2) What thickness of sections would be needed for TEM work to get
the effect of 3D depth?
3) What is the best angle? I would be using a Philips 410LS
w/goniometer tilt stage. I'm going to hit the library but tips from the horses
mouth are always much better. Thanks in advance.

Rick Vaughn
RLVAUGHN-at-MAIL.UNMC.EDU





From: Ani Issaian :      naz-at-creep.che.caltech.edu
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:05:45 +0000
Subject: Re: Umax flarbed Scanners

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Hi John,


I use an Agpha-Arcus ll and I'm very satisfied with the results it gives
me, since we need grey scale for triblock copolymers. There is a newer
vertion of the scanner which might have better features.
Regards,


Ani M Issaian




From: Lou Ann Miller :      lamiller-at-uiuc.edu
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:49:57 -0500
Subject: CSMS / MIKMAS May 28 & 29th Meeting directions

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Greetings to all,

The plans for the CSMS/MIKMAS meeting are coming along. We will have
everything from digital imaging workshops to a demo of Virtual TEM
usage. There will be venders, and several of them will have live demo's
of their equipment.

I hope to have the schedule out around next weekend.

For those of you who plan to attend, the directions to our facility are
now on the web and can be found below:

http://www.cvm.uiuc.edu/HomePages/LouAnnMiller/CSMS/maps


The directions to the Thursday Evening show are:

http://www.cvm.uiuc.edu/HomePages/LouAnnMiller/CSMS/parkland


I will also post the reults of the show and supper survey next week.

Please consider coming. We are going to set up a block of rooms at
University prices at the Raddison Hotel just off of Neil Street in
Champaign. Please give us until next Tuesday to complete the
reservation.

Radisson Hotel #: 217-398-3400
The Hotel location is marked on the Web Page

If you have any Questions please call 217-244-1567 between 7:30am -
4pm.

**All those considering presenting, please contact me this week if you
contacted me via mail , email or phone so far**


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From: Cono Passione :      iami-at-nauticom.net
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 10:17:10 -0400
Subject: Fiber sample preperation

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From: Anne Cooper :      coopera-at-bigdog.engr.arizona.edu
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 16:13:33 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: stereo pairs

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Funny you should ask this question. For the last two semesters I have been
working on just this sort of thing with the SEM. I had fairly good success
using Photoshop. The trick is making sure that your images are alligned
vertically, and playing around with the color until it matches the color
of the filters on the viewerlenses. As far as the tilt angle, that depends
on
the magnification and the degree of roughness of the surface being imaged.
Generally speaking, a smoother sample will require more tilt (7-15
degrees) than a rough one (3-7 degrees). At higher magnification, too much
tilt can mean too much parallax (displacement) and the result may be
uncomfortable to view. Usually 4-10 degrees of tilt will produce
sufficient parallax. If still unsure, you can do what I did and take
a
series of images, each at 3 degree differences in tilt. Just be sure that
when you refocus the image after tilting that you do so without changing
the magnification. On the SEM this means using the Z axis control instead
of the objective lense control. Also be careful when you tilt that you
maintain your field of view (tracing the outline of some major features
with a grease pencil on the monitor screen works great).

I'm not sure of how you're planning on tilting your sample. Because you're
using a TEM you may be best off tilting your beam instead of your sample.
I've never tried this as our instrument wasn't able to do this, but it
always seemed like a great way to go. I imagine there would be less
refocusing problems. Less change in contrast too. Let me know how it
works out if you try this method. There are two pretty good references on
this technique you might want to check out. One is "The Perception and
Measurement of Depth In the SEM", by A.Boyde in SEM 1979 Vol 2 page 67-78
(the part you want starts on pg 70). The other is "Introduction to Stereo
Scanning Electron Microscopy" by Eric Chatfield in Vol 6 of Principles and
Techniques of Scanning Electron Microscopy 1978. There are others I can
give you if you want.

Another method you might try is horizontal displacement instead of
tilting. The trick is to have enough displacement so as to produce
sufficient parallax, but maintain enough similarity in the field of view
that the brain can still fuse the two images. I didn't have much success
with this technique. The above references describe this method as well.

Oh, heres a good one. While working on this little project of mine (which
has now become somewhat of a recurring obsession) I discovered the
National Stereoscopic Association (NSA). These people are very interested
in any form of stereoimaging and would love to hear from you and help you
in any way they can. They even have their own magazine Stereo World which
is filled with you guessed it stereopairs. Its great if somewhat bizarre.
And they have a cool website! Check it out at
nsa-3d.org/nsa-membership.html and have your 3d glasses ready. You might
try contacting Larry at larry-at-sapphire-star.com to see if he has any
advice or suggestions.

Whew! I didn't realize I had so much to say! I hope this has been of some
help. If you have any other questions or just want to discuss the
frustrations of stereoimaging (and there are a few). Feel free to contact
me at coopera-at-bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (the world's longest email address).

Good Luck and let me know how it turns out


Anne Marie Cooper




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} 3) What is the best angle? I would be using a Philips 410LS
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}
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From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 98 22:50:18 -0500
Subject: Counting of fibers

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Cono Passione wrote:
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I currently am trying to find a way to image composite fibers of 50 to 500
micron in length and 10 micron in width with out them crossing and touching.


The idea is to image, threshold, and then count and measure these fibers.
right now we have to go through each field and manully measue them. This
can be quite tedious and time consuming when there are thousands involved.
We can use the image analyser to do fields automatically with some manual
interaction.

Can anyone suggest a means of dispersing such fibers in the preperation
process that will not allow them to touch and overlap??? We can also set
the image analyser to randomly eliminate the ones that touch. This is an
alternative but would like to be able to measure them all, if possible.
Also this is done on just basic brightfield and does not require any special
illumination such as polarized light.
==================================================
This sounds like it could be an ideal application for SPI's "Tacky Dot
Slides". If you are not familiar with this product line, you can get full
details on our website given below.

You can chose between standard products with dots on either 500 or 1000 um
"centers". If you went for the 500 um center to center dots, you could work
with a dot size of only 15 um. That would ensure that only one fiber stuck
per dot, but it would be theoretically possible for at least some small (but
very small) population of fibers to be touching.

If you went for the 1000 um centers, the smallest dot size is 100 um. While
you would be certain that no fibers on adjacent dots would ever be touching,
there could be the possibility that there could be more than one fiber
sticking on a given dot, giving another instance of fibers touching.

But despite these problems, it would seem that these "Tacky Dot Slide"
products could either solve your problem completely or come very close to
doing so. What you might need is a special order product with a smaller
dot size on 1000 um centers.

Once mounted, the fibers could be imaged either by LM or SEM for the desired
automated analysis.

Disclaimer: SPI Supplies manufactures Tacky Dot Slides (TM) as an exclusive
licensee of E. I. DuPont de Nemours and Co., Inc. according to US Patent #5,
356,751.

Chuck

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From: Barbara Foster :      mme-at-map.com
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 08:43:55 -0400
Subject: Re: Fiber sample preperation

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At 10:17 AM 4/12/98 -0400, Cono Passione wrote:

} } } }

{excerpt} {smaller} Dear Fellow Microscopist,

{/smaller}

{smaller} I am in need of someone assistance.

{/smaller}

{smaller} I currently am trying to find a way to image composite fibers of
50 to 500 micron in length and 10 micron in width with out them crossing
and touching.

{/smaller}

{smaller} The idea is to image, threshold, and then count and measure
these fibers. right now we have to go through each field and manully
measue them. This can be quite tedious and time consuming when there are
thousands involved. We can use the image analyser to do fields
automatically with some manual interaction.

{/smaller}

{smaller} Can anyone suggest a means of dispersing such fibers in the
preperation process that will not allow them to touch and overlap??? We
can also set the image analyser to randomly eliminate the ones that
touch. This is an alternative but would like to be able to measure them
all, if possible. Also this is done on just basic brightfield and does
not require any special illumination such as polarized light.

{/smaller}

{smaller} Any suggestions can be sent to this address and I will reply.
Thank You.

{/smaller}

{smaller} Cono Passione

{/smaller}

{/excerpt} { { { { { { { {


Dear Cono,


Other than an equally laborious process of aligning the fibers (you did
not mention whether they were straight, curled, or crimped), one other
approach is to find an image analysis system which has a special fiber
module for analyzing fibers as they cross or touch. Companies to check
on

include:

Media Cybernetics' Image-Pro Plus

Compix C-Imaging Simple-32

Noesis' Visilog

Clemex


Best of luck.


Barbara Foster

Consortium President

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From: Rollin Lakis :      lakis-at-sol1.lrsm.upenn.edu
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:01:28 -0400
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Ricky,

I have students in my SEM course do an exercise in taking stereo pairs.
It provides for a great show-and-tell at the end of the course. Since optimum
angle depends on surface topography and magnification, I have different
students do different angles and then c;compare end results. We usually use
7o as routine with 14o thrown in. The larger angle usually is overkill. It
is very important to focus with Z-control and try to keep the image centered.

I have done a bit with TEM using a goniometer stage but not enough to
give advise. It does work better if you have a rough surface specimen, either
negative stain or sections in a type of resin that tears as you microtome
(like lowicryls or LR White).

For reconstruction, I realign the images in photoshop, using the center
of the image for alignment purposed. This is a critical step and must be done
accurately for good final results. Using layers makes this routine. I put
the original image (0 angle) in the first layer, cross-hairs on the second
layer to mark my center point, and the second image on the third layer, etc.
Reducing the transparency of the second image lets you easily see the
cross-hairs and first image.

Using color channels, you can change the aligned images into your red and
blue (or green) colors and adjust transparency to overlay them. However, it
is easier to use an image analysis program such as NIH Image (free). I use
ScanAlytic's program, IP Lab Spectrum which makes the conversion about a 20
second process.

The next problem is getting the final image into a form which can be
shown to audiences. I have found that it is often difficult to get the right
exposure using digital slide makers. The slides tend to come out too dark.
You often also have color problems with some films. I have had the best luck
just photographing the computer screen with a 35mm camera. I use Polaroid
Presentation Film which gives you a "what you see is what you get" when
photographing a computer screen. Kodak films are heavy on the blue in this
instance and I haven't tried Fugi film (although it works great in some
digital slide makers!). I use the option in the Adobe PhotoShop tool box of
full screen mode which enlarges the image to maximum screen size and fills
rest of monitor with a black border and then do an exposure series and get
good slides every time.

Have fun with this...your audience will certainly appreciate it.

Debby Sherman, manager
Microscopy Center in Agriculture
Purdue University
--------------------------------------

Hey there imaging buffs
1) Is there a way to create the red/green 3D images using stereo pair
TEM mages without buying an expensive 3D imaging program?
2) What thickness of sections would be needed for TEM work to get
the effect of 3D depth?
3) What is the best angle? I would be using a Philips 410LS
w/goniometer tilt stage. I'm going to hit the library but tips from the
horses
mouth are always much better. Thanks in advance.

Rick Vaughn
RLVAUGHN-at-MAIL.UNMC.EDU

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I am searching for a hardware/software solution to control access and
provide accounting information for electron microscope use. We operate a
multi-user academic facility with five microscopes and other analytical
equipment. Presently, instrument access is controlled by custom written
software running on a very old PC. Once a user has logged in, the PC
switches the "ready" signal of an individual microscope using a serial I/O
interface card. Unless a user has logged in, the instrument is disabled.
Our existing system is becoming less reliable and is not easily upgraded.

Are other members of the microscope community using a similar approach?
Does anyone know of a commercial software package for this type of
application? The ability to work in a network environment (web-based
perhaps) would be a plus.

Thank You,


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From: Gregory S. Elam :      gregory.s.elam-at-bigfoot.com
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:38:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Scanning Electron Microscopy

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I'm conducting research for a short paper and presentation on Scanning
Electron Microscopy due 21 Apr 97. Any sources or information you would
recommend would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

Gregory S. Elam
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From: Gib Ahlstrand :      giba-at-puccini.crl.umn.edu
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:50:38 -0500
Subject: Re: stereo pairs

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} At 06:02 PM 4/9/98 -0500, you wrote:
} Hey there imaging buffs
} 1) Is there a way to create the red/green 3D images using stereo pair
} TEM mages without buying an expensive 3D imaging program?
} 2) What thickness of sections would be needed for TEM work to get
} the effect of 3D depth?
} 3) What is the best angle? I would be using a Philips 410LS
} w/goniometer tilt stage. I'm going to hit the library but tips from the
} horses mouth are always much better. Thanks in advance.
}
} } Rick Vaughn
} } RLVAUGHN-at-MAIL.UNMC.EDU
} ----------------------------------------------------

Rick,

Responding to questions 2 & 3 above:

When I got my on-site training after instalation of our Philips CM12, I was
handed a huge compendium of TEM applications tailored for the CM12. There is a
section on stereo-TEM in there which I will copy and send to you by snail mail,
if you'll send me your address.

Within it, is a table and a graph giving suggested tilt angles for stereo TEM as
a funtion of section [or sample] thickness and magnification, which was worked
out long ago by Dr. Lee Peachey. The trend is, the higher the magnification, the
smaller the tilt angle between stereo pairs should be, and the thicker the
sample, the smaller the tilt angle should be.

In response to question #1, so far I haven't played around with the red/green
method of stereo presentation. I make a pair of black and white slides, by
digitizing my TEM negs and use PowerPoint to print them out to a Polaroid slide
maker. Then I use inexpensive stereo slide viewers ($7 ea.,from Reel 3-D
Enterprises, www.stereoscopy.com/reel3d. I have no commercial interest in Reel
3-D.) to view the pairs, which works quite well. I'm presently working out
viewing bacteria in 3D that have had immunogold labeling applied to their
surfaces, to better localize the location of the gold.

Good luck!

Gib

Gib Ahlstrand, Minnesota Micoscopy Society Newsletter Editor
Electron Optical Facility, University of Minnesota, Dept. Plant Pathology
495 Borlaug Hall, St. Paul, MN. USA. 55108 (612)625-8249
612-625-9728 FAX, giba-at-puccini.crl.umn.edu

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From: Warren Straszheim :      wesaia-at-iastate.edu
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:52:58 -0500
Subject: Re: EM Access Control and Accounting

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I would be most interested in your findings. Please summarize them to the
list. I have thought of using Microsoft's scheduler program to handle
signing up, but it would not do the accounting, nor does it appear readily
accessible over the web. I bet there would be a few takers for such a product.

At 11:01 AM 4/13/98 -0400, you wrote:
}
} I am searching for a hardware/software solution to control access and
} provide accounting information for electron microscope use.





From: Bruce Brinson :      brinson-at-rice.edu
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:14:27 -0500
Subject: TEM cameras

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Hello,

1. I would like feed back from anyone that has purchased or worked with
a Gatan slow scan camera that was purchased in the last year. How is
life after the salesman? Does the system measure up to expectations?
Satisfaction with tech support? Software/ upgrade problems?
Comparison of PC platform to MAC. Things that really need to be
improved. Any other comments are also welcome.

2. We are also interested in a side mounted video camera. Comments &
experiences are welcome on this subject as well.

thanks,
Bruce Brinson
Rice U.





From: Rick A. Harris :      raharris-at-ucdavis.edu
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:45:08 -0700
Subject: LKB knifemaker

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Greetings.

I am in need of the manual for an LKB Knifemaker model 7801B. At some
point I have lost the manual and now I need to overhaul this well-used
device. I recall it was just a few pages long. Could someone take the
time to fax it or scan it for me? It can be faxed to:

530 754 7536

If it is easier to FTP it, please email me for the FTP address and password.

Thanks in advance.




Rick A. Harris, Director
Microscopy and Image Analysis Facility
Section of Molecular and Cellular Biology
1241 Life Sciences Addition
University of California
Davis, CA
530 752 2914
530 752 3085 fax
raharris-at-ucdavis.edu




From: psic-at-uclink4.berkeley.edu (Paula Sicurello)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:35:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sputter Alternatives?

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Well Kiddies my sputter coater died. And after all the help you guys gave
me to fix the grounding problem too. Sheesh! Anywho, the question now is:

Is the vacuum evaporator good enough (or better?) to do some
sputtering? We can tilt & rotate while doing it ;-O. Will this be
sufficient for people doing low mag. work (not going over 1000X)?

I have to send the poor ole beastie away to be repaired, I think
the Pirani gauge broke. The vacuum sucks but the gauge does not read out,
it just lies there all the way to the left (but this is Berkeley so I guess
that's fitting).


Promising not to riot while awaiting replies,


Paula :-)

Paula Sicurello
UC Berkeley
Electron Microscope Lab
psic-at-uclink4.berkeley.edu






From: Paul Millikin :      millikin-at-mtco.com
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 17:38:24 -0600
Subject: Stereo Pairs

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Is anybody using stereo pairs projected on a screen as a teaching tool? If
so,
would you mind describing how the images are lined up?

I 've thought for years that stereo projection had to be one of the most
valuable
assets to any classroom. I remember that the basics included 2 Ektamatic
projectors with crossed sheets of polaroid across their lenses to allow
viewers to
use crossed polaroid glasses. A special screen was required, but I can't
recall the
details. I think I remember that one image was mounted as usual, and the
other
adjusted to the correct stereo location using a special guide that was
invented by
Lee Peachey, I think, and sold by one of the EM suppliers.

That was many years ago, so if there's a better technique now, please let
us hear
about it. And/or correct me if I'm wrong.

Paul D. Millikin, MD
Semi-retired Pathologist






From: kszaruba-at-MMM.COM
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:53:48 -0500
Subject: TEM from paraffin sections

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Dear All,

I am faced for the first time with having to process histological
paraffin sections for TEM, and have a few questions. (First I should
say this is mammalian tissue, and we must use histology first to locate
the region of interest, which would require too many blocks to search
for by TEM).

I've seen posts/literature in the past regarding the process of xylene
treatment and rehydration before starting TEM prep. at the OsO4 stage.
The two questions I have are:
1. Since we can have new sections cut from the original block, how
thick should they be, and should they be collected onto slides treated
with some type of mold release agent? Is there a better substrate than
glass slides for this process?

2. If using glass slides, is there a way to create a "well" or chamber
around the section so that I don't have to use whole Coplin jars full of
OsO4, Spurr's resin, etc. during processing? I would much rather apply
the reagents to the area of the section only, similar to applying
immuno-reagents. However, I doubt that the hydrophobic pens we use
would work with solvents and Spurr resin. Any ideas?

Any other tips from experienced individuals would be appreciated!

Thanks as always,
Karen

--
Karen Zaruba, kszaruba-at-mmm.com
BioMaterials Technology Center
3M Center Bldg. 270-1S-01
St. Paul, MN 55144

*The opinions above are my own, not necessarily my employer's*




From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:08:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Stereo Pairs

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Dear Paul,
}
} would you mind describing how the images are lined up?
}
We've used them for presentations in-house and at MSA. We've just
put someone in the audience with stereo glasses, projected the images, and
adjusted until the "audience" saw optimal stereo.

} A special screen was required, but I can't recall the details.

It is one coated with aluminum rather than glass. Metals do not
change the polarization upon reflection, but glass does. I don't know
where they can be obtained; we guard ours jealously.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
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Subject: Re: stereo pairs

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Dear Gib,
}
} Within it, is a table and a graph giving suggested tilt angles for stereo
} TEM as a funtion of section [or sample] thickness and magnification, which
} was worked out long ago by Dr. Lee Peachey. The trend is, the higher the
} magnification, the smaller the tilt angle between stereo pairs should be,
} and the thicker the sample, the smaller the tilt angle should be.
}
One thing to note is that this table gives easily seen stereo, but
not accurate apparent z-values. Depending on what you're going to do with
the info, you may or may not want to use the table. Most computer programs
are capable of working out the correct z-values if you tell them the tilt
angles.
Yours,
Bill Tivol





From: Anton Gutakovskii :      gut-at-thermo.isp.nsc.ru
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:59:11 +0600
Subject: jem-4000

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Dear LISTERS-FRIENDS,
Thank your very much to everyone for your kind replies on my problems
with electron miocroscope JEM-4000EX.

There was problem in logical vacuum system. Namely the chip No. 4B of
VAC SYSTEM PB in VALVE UNIT had been foulted. That was replaced on new
one. Now everything is OK.
Again thank very much for help.
Looking forward to help YOU in future.

Sincerely yours
Anton Gutakovskii
Laboratory of Electron Microscopy
Institute of Semiconductor Physics
Novosibirsk, Russia





From: James Martin :      James.S.Martin-at-williams.edu
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:23:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: lab design

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Any kind souls out there who could advise on layout and specs for utility
needs and vibration/EM field interferences for a lab space that
would include light microscopy, infrared microscopy, SEM, XRD, HPLC,
sample prep, and offices?

I will summarize written e-mail replies for the group. Drawings or plans
can be faxed to 413/458-2314.

TIA

James Martin





From: Anton Gutakovskii :      gut-at-thermo.isp.nsc.ru
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There was problem in logical vacuum system. Namely the chip No. 4B of
VAC SYSTEM PB in VALVE UNIT had been foulted. That was replaced on new
one. Now everything is OK.
Again thank very much for help.
Looking forward to help YOU in future.

Sincerely yours
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From: Thomas A Baginski :      tombg-at-bictom.usuf1.usuhs.mil
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 98 03:29:02 -0400
Subject: Meridian Ultima and Celldyne, comparison

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In our expanding microscopy core facility, we would like to "Gait"
(sp?) cells using an instrument called the Cell-dyne whcich used
laser scattering and some morphological features to identify the
populations on a fixed slide. Is any one very familiar with the
Meridian Ultima system, and do you know if these similar features
are incorporated into their software and/or if cells can be not only
morphologically identified, but also categorized as to laser
scatter, size, shape, re-located with x+y precision, etc,
automatically? Any leads would be help ful in this regard. Thank
you, Tom Baginski




From: Emilio Pastore :      epastore-at-ux1.unipd.it (by way of Nestor J. Zaluzec)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:39:28 -0600
Subject: The Amer. Assoc. of Feed Microscopists,

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I wish to receive notice about the book
"Manual of microscopic Analysis of Feedstuffs. 3rd Ed.
The Amer. Assoc. of Feed Microscopists, 1992, p. 73-93"
or the articles in the same book, autors BATES L.e coll.
Feed ingredient descriptions of animal origin.






From: Ed Calomeni :      ecalomeni-at-mco.edu
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:25:19 -0400
Subject: TEM from paraffin sections -Reply

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Dear All,

I am faced for the first time with having to process histological
paraffin sections for TEM, and have a few questions. (First I should
say this is mammalian tissue, and we must use histology first to
locate
the region of interest, which would require too many blocks to search
for by TEM).

I've seen posts/literature in the past regarding the process of xylene
treatment and rehydration before starting TEM prep. at the OsO4 stage.

The two questions I have are:
1. Since we can have new sections cut from the original block, how
thick should they be, and should they be collected onto slides treated
with some type of mold release agent? Is there a better substrate
than
glass slides for this process?

2. If using glass slides, is there a way to create a "well" or
chamber
around the section so that I don't have to use whole Coplin jars full
of
OsO4, Spurr's resin, etc. during processing? I would much rather
apply
the reagents to the area of the section only, similar to applying
immuno-reagents. However, I doubt that the hydrophobic pens we use
would work with solvents and Spurr resin. Any ideas?

Any other tips from experienced individuals would be appreciated!

Thanks as always,
Karen

--
Karen Zaruba, kszaruba-at-mmm.com
BioMaterials Technology Center
3M Center Bldg. 270-1S-01
St. Paul, MN 55144

*The opinions above are my own, not necessarily my employer's*


Hi Karen,

I do not mess with paraffin sections. Once an area of intrest is
determined, the corresponding area from the paraffin block is cut out,
cut up into small pieces than processed for EM. I start with a
1% OsO4 in Toluene for a minimium of 4 hours; wash 3X with acetone
than infiltrate in 1:1 Spurr's:Acetone overnight. Embed in the
morning into 100% Spurr's, polymerize and section.
If you do have to work with paraffin sections only, have them cut as
thick as possible (} 5 um) and process on the slides. This is the fun
part: when ready to polymerize, fill up a beem capusle with resin,
invert it over the section (area of intrest), clamp, tape, hold the
capsule to the slide, and place in oven. Next day place slide on a
hot hot plate and gently rock the capsule until it pops off the slide.
( I am successful about 50% of the time) Note: before the slide goes
into the oven, wipe off the bottom and any area away from the area of
intrest of resin so that only the section is covered with resin.

Best of Luck,
Ed Calomeni
Dept of Pathology
Medical College of Ohio
Toledo, OH 43614
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From: Yves Maniette :      yves-at-giga.sct.ub.es
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:10:49 +0200 (MET DST)
Subject: Re: Coherent **Radiation**, INC.(Please forget about previous msg)

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Hello again, World,
[sorry for bothering again I mistyped the name in the former message.]

Looking for the address and fax number of the Company called Coherent
Radiation, Inc. I just spent half an hour browsing, not to avail. So
sorry for bothering you but I have no other way than asking. Thanks,

--Yves MANIETTE
Universitat de Barcelona
http://www2.gol.com/users/scscope/maniette/ENTREE.HTM





From: Yves Maniette :      yves-at-giga.sct.ub.es
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:05:34 +0200 (MET DST)
Subject: Coherent technology, INC.: Address??

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Hello World,

Looking for the address and fax number of the Company called Coherent
Technology, Inc. I just spent half an hour browsing, not to avail. So
sorry for bothering you but I have no other way than asking. Thanks,

--Yves MANIETTE
Universitat de Barcelona
http://www2.gol.com/users/scscope/maniette/ENTREE.HTM







From: Margaret Springett :      hukee.margaret-at-mayo.edu
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:15:14 -0600
Subject: TEM from paraffin sections -Reply

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Karen Zaruba

Other than glass slides?? Yes permanox slides are available. They do not
embed in Spurr and can be more easily separated from the section.


Small volumes of fixative?? Yes, try a small slide mailer that is used for
shipping slides, I have used these with all solutions, with the exception
of propylene oxide, we infiltrate these in alcohol+ resin. Some small
slide chambers are also made for autoradiography, but are pricey.

Using glass slides?? I have had pretty good success separating sections or
cells from glass slides by inverting the glass slide over the beam
capsules, so the excess resin will drain away. And immediately after
removing from the oven, set the glass slide on a block of dry ice. Wait
until bottom of block is frosty and snap block off slide.

Have you tried some of the other resins available for light and TEM?? I can
be contacted off the listserver if you have any other questions, and will
be glad to help..
Marge

Margaret Springett
e-mail hukee.margaret-at-mayo.edu
IEM Specialist at Mayo Foundation
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From: Woody.N.White-at-mcdermott.com
Date: 4/13/98 5:35 PM
Subject: Sputter Alternatives?

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Hello Paula,

Don't know what materials you are evaporating or if it is a low
or high vac system, but it should suffice for less than 1000x.
Coating grain size is typically larger but you won't see it. I have
found that with my low vac evaporator, film thickness is much more
difficult to control and I don't use if for high mag/resolution work if
possible. If you are coating with carbon (vs Au or AuPd) the
stopping power is less, but again, at low mag it won't matter. Carbon
will, however, yield a more noisy signal than Au since it tends to
adsorb more incident beam and liberate less BSEs and SEs.

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Well Kiddies my sputter coater died. And after all the help you guys gave
me to fix the grounding problem too. Sheesh! Anywho, the question now is:

Is the vacuum evaporator good enough (or better?) to do some
sputtering? We can tilt & rotate while doing it ;-O. Will this be
sufficient for people doing low mag. work (not going over 1000X)?

I have to send the poor ole beastie away to be repaired, I think
the Pirani gauge broke. The vacuum sucks but the gauge does not read out,
it just lies there all the way to the left (but this is Berkeley so I guess
that's fitting).


Promising not to riot while awaiting replies,


Paula :-)

Paula Sicurello
UC Berkeley
Electron Microscope Lab
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From: LABORATORY :      giblab-at-pcom.net
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:44:35 -0400
Subject: ferrite or retained austinite

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i'm having trouble distingushing between the two are there any special
etches i can use ?




From: wamann2-at-METALMAT.UFRJ.BR
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:44:54 EST3BRA
Subject: bibliography on materials microscopy

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Fellow list members,
BibMic - A bibliography of books relating to Materials Microscopy,
previously published on paper in Materials Characterization
36(1996)105 is now available on the net at
http://bibmic.metalmat.ufrj.br

It lists over 1000 books, and is searchable by author, title and
keywords.

Hope you find it useful
Prof. Walter A. Mannheimer
Dept. of Metallurgy and Materiais Eng.
Federal University of Rio de Janeiro
POBox 68505, 21945 Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Vox (55 21) 590-0579 Fax (55 21) 290-6626
wamann-at-metalmat.ufrj.br




From: Schibler, Matthew :      mschibler-at-bri.medsch.ucla.edu
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:22:25 -0700
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Coherent Radiation changed its name a while ago to Coherent Systems. =20

I just spent a day at their laser manufacturing facility in Santa =
Clara,
CA in the USA.

European contact information:

Coherent UK, Ltd.
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From: Ronnie Houston :      rhh1-at-airmail.net
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:41:05 -0700
Subject: Genex Corp.

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Does anyone have an address, phone #, for a company called Genex Corp?
Thanks for any help?
Ronnie Houston
Cytochemistry & Molecular Pathology
Texas Scottish Rite Hospital for Children
Dallas




From: Neft, Robin :      RNeft-at-audrey.lrri.org
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:57:19 -0600
Subject: calibration beads

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Hi Everyone,
Does anyone know where I can get calibration beads on microscope
slides?
Robin Neft




From: Chang-Lin Liang :      CLIAN1-at-MEDNET.SWMED.EDU
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:06:56 -0500
Subject: apply

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Dear Sir/Madam:

I just know there is a association of microscopy in Internet. I work on
the field for long time and I hope I can share the experience and
knowledge with all of you. Please let me know if I need do something for
joining , like fill a form.

Now I have a problem. I cut 50 micro meter paraffin section beautifully
but I can not mount them well. There are a lot of wrinkles when the
sections are dried. Maybe some experts can give me some idea. Thank you!

Sincerely yours,

Chang-Lin Liang, Ph.D.
Clian1-at-mednet.swmed.edu




From: Steven W. Miller :      Steven_W_Miller-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:01:45 -0400
Subject: Sputtering Alternatives

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ou may want to be sure that your unit really isn't leak tight before
sending anything away for repair. Can you put the gauge tube into an
adapter (rubber stopper with a hole bored in it) and put this onto your
mechanical pump and see if your gauge/pump combination works? If so then=

you have left out a sealing component while repairing the ground fault.

Keep smiling, it takes fewer electrons than frowning?

Steve Miller
RMC
Tucson,AZ




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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:01:48 -0400
Subject: Materials Science Course September 98

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At last we have the printed course announcement for the RMC Materials
Science Microtomy Course 1998.

This is the most comprehensive course available for those interested in
doing polymers, metals, semiconductors, ceramics for TEM and SPM. =


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For complete details please see our web page; =

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From: Energy Beam Sciences, Inc. :      ebs-at-ebsciences.com
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:54:00 -0500
Subject: TEM from paraffin sections

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Dear fellow microscopists,

At 09:25 AM 4/14/98 -0400,Ed Calomeni wrote:

} If you do have to work with paraffin sections only, have them cut as
} thick as possible (} 5 um) and process on the slides. This is the fun
} part: when ready to polymerize, fill up a beem capusle with resin,
} invert it over the section (area of intrest), clamp, tape, hold the
} capsule to the slide, and place in oven. Next day place slide on a
} hot hot plate and gently rock the capsule until it pops off the slide.
} ( I am successful about 50% of the time) Note: before the slide goes
} into the oven, wipe off the bottom and any area away from the area of
} intrest of resin so that only the section is covered with resin.

This is called the "pop-off" technique. We have posted a published paper
delineating this technique in detail on our web site (address below). A
second paper is available by snail mail.

Best regards,
Steven E. Slap, Vice-President
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From: Norbert Overbeck :      overbec-at-uni-muenster.de
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:07:44 +0200
Subject: Re: stereo pairs

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The german company 'Soft Imaging System' has a module for generating
stereo images and measure heights on them on the web:

http://www.soft-imaging.de/products/modules/m_ste2.htm
and
http://www.soft-imaging.de/products/modules/m_ste.htm

there is also a SEM made salt cystal imaged.

Best regards,
Norbert




From: Woody.N.White-at-mcdermott.com
Date: 4/14/98 3:57 PM
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If you don't mind putting the beads on the slide yourself, try Duke
Scientific Corp. They supply certified (size) spheres suspended
in solution.

Woody White, McDermott Technology, Inc

mtiresearch.com


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Hi Everyone,
Does anyone know where I can get calibration beads on microscope
slides?
Robin Neft




From: Scott Holt :      holt_scott-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:06:41 -0400
Subject: Ferrite Or Retained Austinite

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Giblab at GIBRALTAR STEEL wrote:

} I'm having trouble distingushing between the two are there any special
} etches i can use ?

---------

After consulting with George Vander Voort (an authority on carbon steels
and related etching techniques), I have discovered that there is not a
good etchant to reveal retained austinite. An electrolytic method has be=
en
proposed in the past, but George told me he was never able to get good =

results from it. =


George's suggestion: =

Try Klemm's Reagent to tint etch the ferrite (if it's there). =


KLEMM's REAGENT:
- Make up a stock solution of water saturated with Sodium Thiosulfate
- Take 50ml of this stock solution and add 1gm Potassium Metabisulfite.

- Immerse sample (do NOT swab on the etchant). Watch the surface
- of the steel, and remove from solution when the surface turns a
- red/violet color. Rinse with water, ethanol and warm air dry.

Another option is to try Beraha's tint etchants listed on pg.643 of Georg=
e
Vander Voort's book, 'METALLOGRAPH Principles and Practice', published
by McGraw Hill and available through ASM. This is not meant to be a book=

advertisement, but it is a handy reference if you are dealing with
microstructural
analysis on a regular basis.

Hope this helps.
Scott D. Holt
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From: Maria do Carmo Goncalves :      maria-at-iqm.unicamp.br
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:30:45 -0300 (EST)
Subject: Xenosput magnetron coater

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I would like to receive information from anyone
that has worked with a xenosput magnetron sputter
coater. How is coating quality compared with
conventional SEM coatings such as gold and chromium?
Any other comments are also welcome.
Thanks in advance.

Maria do Carmo Goncalves
Institute of Chemistry
University of Campinas
Sao Paulo - Brasil
e-mail: maria-at-iqm.unicamp.br




From: Maria do Carmo Goncalves :      maria-at-iqm.unicamp.br
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:54:40 -0300 (EST)
Subject: xenosput magnetron coater

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I have been asked to forward this:

A position for a Senior Histology Technician is opening at
Carolinas Medical Center in Charlotte, NC. Please address all
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Thank you
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I would like to receive information from anyone
that has worked with a xenosput magnetron sputter
coater. How is coating quality compared with
conventional SEM coatings such as gold and chromium?
Any other comments are also welcome.
Thanks in advance.

Maria do Carmo Goncalves
Institute of Chemistry
University of Campinas
Sao Paulo - Brazil
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From: rick-at-pgt.com (Rick Mott)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 98 12:03:32 EDT
Subject: dimethylmercury

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Without intent to re-open an old thread, I apologize to you all for
comments made in haste and ignorance on this subject six months ago.
I was visiting friends connected with Dartmouth last weekend, and
was reminded of it by an article in the Dartmouth alumni magazine.

After reading the Aug. 97 Science article recommended by Robert
Schoonhoven and some other references, including the glove tests
showing astonishing permeability for normal lab gloves, I am now
much more aware of how dangerous this stuff is compared to other
mercury compounds. It's in the same league with VX nerve gas
(which, in a ghoulish twist of bureaucratic humor, has an MSDS
published by the Army).

Please forgive my erroneous pooh-poohing on this. It was a
knee-jerk response to what looked at first like just another
media scare story. I should know better by now than to react
before having the facts.

Sincerely,

Rick Mott
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From: Stephen Poe :      spoe-at-aphis.usda.gov
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:52:49 -0600
Subject: Wild M-5 for viewing sterio pairs F/S

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With all this discussion of sterio pairs, I wondered if anyone was
interested in a Wild M-5 sterio scope designed for viewing sterio pairs -
scope has paired objectives that can be individually rotated to achieve
convergence of sterio pairs for viewing as a 3-D image - I think it was
designed for aerial photo and map viewing. I got it for a project I was
doing a few years back and am done with it, so...... I am up for making
someone a pretty good deal if you can use it.

Best to E-mail me at home spoefish-at-mindspring.com since the
server here at work is often down for days (typical government stuff)

Stephen Poe





From: temsem-at-juno.com (gene a s)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:27:38 -0600
Subject: Re: TEM from paraffin sections -Reply

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Hi Karen, Ed, and others:

We use the 'pop-off' technique frequently in our lab (see Slap's post).
If you must do it with sections, make sure they are 5 um thick or better.
This will give
you enough tissue to thin section.

We omit the OsO4 step, sense the ultrastructural morphology is very poor
from
formalin fixed paraffin embedded tissue.

(flame retardant: I understand some people have had good results using
OSO4 with formalin fixed de-paraffinized tissue).

cya
-gene

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From: Jon Charlesworth :      charlesworth.jon-at-mayo.edu
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:27:01 -0600
Subject: Technician position at Mayo Clinic

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Electron Microscopy Technologist Position

The Electron Microscopy Core Facility at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN
has an opening for an EM technologist to support both clinical and research
projects. The laboratory offers expertise to collaborative projects which
involve transmission and scanning electron microscopy. The laboratory is
well equipped and has a history of excellent productivity and adequate
funding. The successful candidate for this position will possess at least
a bachelor's degree with experience in histology and/or electron
microscopy. Additional experience in Immunology, Cell Biology, and Digital
Imaging is desirable. Operating knowledge of transmission and scanning
electron microscopes is preferred. The applicant must have excellent
communicative skills and the ability to work well with a variety of
personalities. The EM technologist interacts with all laboratory users in
order to accomplish specific research and clinical goals with respect to
electron microscopy procedures. Duties include: all aspects of specimen
preparation for a variety of biomedical samples for TEM and SEM; operation
of TEM and SEM; negative developing and printing; digital image capture,
processing and archiving; and reporting. The technologist will also
perform advanced research procedures including immunoelectron microscopy,
x-ray microanalysis, and microwave processing.
Mayo offers a competitive salary and benefits package. Candidates must be
legally authorized to work in the United States. If interested please
submit a cover letter and resume referencing job posting #98-818.col to:

Kaine A. Kerkhoff
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Rochester, MN 55905
Fax: 507-284-1445
Email: kerkhoff.kaine-at-mayo.edu

For more information about Mayo visit our homepage at: http://www.mayo.edu.

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From: Sandy Perkins :      skperkin-at-vt.edu
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:00:51 -0400
Subject: TEM of tissue culture cells-failure

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HI-

Quick question.....has anyone ever experienced poor resin infiltration of
tissue culture cells grown and processed in Permanox plates. I have
performed this procedure a number of times with no problems and today,
after looking at the sections on the TEM, the cells appear condensed and
poorly infiltrated. I would be thankful for any shared experiences and
solutions. Because this is such a specific situation, feel free to respond
to me at my e-mail address. Thank You!

Sandy Perkins

Laboratory for Neurotoxicity Studies
VA-MD Regional College of Vet. Med.
VA Tech

skperkin-at-vt.edu






From: Tom Phillips :      tphillips-at-biosci.mbp.missouri.edu
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:01:19 -0500
Subject: For Fuji Pictrography Users Only

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We just got our Fuji Pictrography 3000 and the prints are flying out the
door. I can't believe the quality. My question is: Does anybody have a
great supplier (in regards to price) for the paper and donor material. I am
paying $280 for the donor and $68 for a roll of glossy paper. Thanks. Tom


Thomas E. Phillips, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Biological Sciences
Director, Molecular Cytology Core Facility

3 Tucker Hall
Division of Biological Sciences
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211
(573)-882-4712 (voice)
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From: Melvyn Dickson :      M.Dickson-at-unsw.edu.au
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:35:13 +1000
Subject: Re: Xenosput magnetron coater

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It is a vital part of our extensive high resolution scanning EM work where
we hope to obtain featureless coating of insulating specimens.

The coating quality obtained with the xenosput sputtering chromium is as
smooth as we can currently obtain with any technology. By comparison, gold
sputtered in the conventional way is extremely rough. The only method
which comes close is to sputter platinum at very low currents and pressures
with a conventional magnetron sputter head.

Of course chromium CAN be sputtered in any vacuum system, but it will have
a high content of chromium oxide due to residual gas. The Xenosput has the
cleanest imaginable vacuum system in that a pre-coat sputter of titanium in
the work chamber purges all gases except the xenon from the work chamber
atmosphere. So you can apply a coat of pure metallic chromium which will
not oxidise for several days.

The xenon is used as it has better characteristics for sputtering. Under
xenon energetic neutral bombardment of the sputtered film is minimised and
heat buid up in the specimen is reduced.




From: nan h. laudenslager :      nhl-at-early.com
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:18:33 -0400
Subject: Electron Diffraction Course

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Can anyone recommend a short course specific to the electron diffraction
techniques??

Thanks,
Nan Laudenslager
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From: Peta Clode :      pclode-at-zoo.latrobe.edu.au
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:13:01 +1000 (EST)
Subject: TEM - LaNO3

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Hello All,
I was wondering if anyone has had any problems with hardening of tissue
when using lanthanum nitrate as an extracellular tracer? Also, is it
advisable to use lanthanum in all processing solutions ie through osmium
fixation, dehydration etc, or only in the initial incubation buffer?
Any advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance

---------------------------
Miss Peta Clode
Zoology Department
LaTrobe University
Bundoora, Victoria
Australia. 3083.

Ph (03) 9479 2177 / 2279
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From: Colin Reid :      creid-at-tcd.ie
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 06:26:11 +0100
Subject: Re: SEM adhesive

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Has anyone come across an adhesive called " M Glue" ? It used to be =
available 6-7 years ago and was superb for mounting small powders. I =
think it was a water based adhesive which was "milky" at first and =
cleared after 20 mins to leave a tacky surface which gave excellent =
adherence and stability. We used to purchase it from the UK but I =
think it was manufactured in S.Africa. We have been unable to find a =
suitable replacement. Does anyone know of a similar product ?

Thanks,

Colin Reid

Electron Microscope Unit,
Trinity College Dublin,
Dublin 2,
Rep. of Ireland.
Tel: 353-1-6081820
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From: colin.veitch-at-dwt.csiro.au
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:53:42 +1000
Subject: Mean free path code

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Hi All,

I have been asked to calculate the mfp (elastic and inelastic) of
electrons in wool with increasing levels of a contaminant. At this
stage I am going to consider the wool as a carbon then add in different
levels of the contaminant. In the first cases this contaminant will be
sulphur and bromine.

Is there any shareware out there (or even a macro or for something like
Excel) which could perform these calculations and display the separate
mfps. I only have access to PC's and Macs and can't get access to any
compilers so the code would need to be executable!! I have seen the
NTLAMBDA program in the archives and it is just what I want, but I have
no way of compiling it!!

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Colin Veitch

Instrumentation Scientist
CSIRO Division of Wool Technology
PO Box 21, BELMONT, Vic. 3216. Australia.

E-mail: colin.veitch-at-dwt.csiro.au

Tel: +61 (0) 3 5246 4000
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From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 98 02:12:37 -0500
Subject: Looking for LVC Coater

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We are trying to find, to purchase or trade, working or not working, a LVC
Sputter Coater once manufactured by Plasma Sciences, Inc. up until a few
years ago. We believe that some of these units also could have carried the
name of Energy Beam Sciences, Inc.

Please contact me off line if you have such a system that is excess to your
current needs.

Chuck

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From: Nestor J. Zaluzec :      zaluzec-at-Sparc5.Microscopy.Com
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:28:45 -0600
Subject: Re: Mean free path code

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Thanks Scott !

We have tried Temp-Fix but our powders are both temperature and solvent
sensitive. At the moment we use "Sticky-Tabs" which do not give good
stability. I am hoping that someone will know more about the original
"M-Glue" to try and source a new supply. As with a lot of EM products,
such as resins, they are used for other functions and the EM use is just an
off-shoot. I know the company in the UK have tried to source the material
and failed.


Colin Reid
Electron Microscope Unit,
Trinity College Dublin,
Dublin 2,
Rep. of Ireland.
Tel: 353-1-6081820
Fax: 353-1-6770438
email: creid-at-tcd.ie

-----Original Message-----

Colin

NTLamdba will be running as a WWW applet in about a week.
I'll shift around my "order of things" to convert and try to help
you out. You will need a Java aware browser like Netscape
The URL is:

http://tpm.amc.anl.gov/NJZTools

Just login next week and look for the EELS MFP Link to be activated.

Nestor
Your Friendly Neighborhood SysOp.

****************************************************

} Hi All,
}
} I have been asked to calculate the mfp (elastic and inelastic) of
} electrons in wool with increasing levels of a contaminant.
}
I have seen the
} NTLAMBDA program in the archives and it is just what I want, but I have
} no way of compiling it!!
}
} Colin Veitch






From: ARIGURP-at-wmich.edu
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:22:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: SEM

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Is SEM considered radiation creating instrument that has to be registered?
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Materials Science and Engineering
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Kalamazoo, MI 49008 FAX: (616) 387-6517
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From: Stanley L. Flegler :      flegler-at-pilot.msu.edu
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:16:38 -0400
Subject: RE: SEM

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In the state of Michigan all electron microscopes are considered radiation
producing devices. They must be registered and readings taken once per
year. There must be a registration tag on each instrument as well as the
current inspection certificate. The Michigan Dept. of Consumer and
Industry Services takes care of this. However, the registration and
inspection is usually coordinated by a radiation safety officer at each
university. I suggest you make a few calls at your university to get the
complete story. The State can levy fines if you are not in compliance;
however they are usually lenient, especially if you were not aware of the
law.
Stanley L. Flegler, Assistant Director
Center for Electron Optics
Michigan State University
flegler-at-pilot.msu.edu




From: Rozeveld, Steve (SJ) :      SJROZEVELD-at-dow.com
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:56:20 -0400
Subject: Dye-sub printers

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We are in the market for a dye-sub printer - primarily for SEM images,
Electron Probe Maps, TEM images, transparencies, ....
The Sony UP-D8800 was recommended but I would appreciate comments on
other printers concerning the print quality, reliability, etc.

Thanks,
steve rozeveld

} Steve Rozeveld
}
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P.S. My apologies if I am covering an old topic.

}




From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 98 12:02:00 -0500
Subject: Mounting powders for SEM

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Colin Reid wrote:
===============================================
We have tried Temp-Fix but our powders are both temperature and solvent
sensitive. At the moment we use "Sticky-Tabs" which do not give good
stability. I am hoping that someone will know more about the original "M-
Glue" to try and source a new supply. As with a lot of EM products, such
as resins, they are used for other functions and the EM use is just an off-
shoot. I know the company in the UK have tried to source the material and
failed.
================================================
You might be thinking about "M-Bond 610". If that is indeed the one you are
talking about, and it is used in several different ways around EM labs, you
can find it on our website listed below. Its original use was indeed
outside of EM, it was developed for the mounting of micro-strain gages on
surfaces.

But for temperature and solvent sensitive powders, have you considered our
Tacky Dot (TM) slides? This will enable you to mount your powders without
exposure to solvents or temperature and the particles end up on orthogonal
centers for easy viewing and analysis. These two are described on our
website below. The advantage of the Tacky Dot slides over even M-Bond 610
is that there is no danger that your particles of interest will "sink into"
the liquid adhesive while it is polymerizing. After all, even the M-Bond
610 has vapors and if your powders are indeed solvent sensitive, then they
would or could be sensitive to the vapors from such solvents as well.

Disclaimer: SPI Supplies offers both types of products, as well as Temfix
(TM), so we would have an obvious interest in promoting the use of these
items.

Chuck

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From: Fagerland,Jane :      jane.a.fagerland-at-abbott.com
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:16:25 -0500
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The Midwest Microscopy and Microanalysis Society Materials Science Meet=
ing
will be held on May 22, 1998, hosted by Dr. Nigel Browning of the Depar=
tment
of Physics, University of Illinois at Chicago. In addition to a spea=
ker
slate of internationally renowned scientists, the meeting will showcase=
the
new electron microscopy lab at UIC with a tour of the facility followin=
g the
scientific sessions.

Invited presentations will cover the following topics: phase contrast
imaging in TEM, scanning tunneling microscopy, electron energy loss
spectroscopy, enery dispersive x-ray spectroscopy, and other surface
analytical microscopic techniques.

The program will begin with an introduction at 8:45 a.m. and the first
speaker at 9:00 a.m. There will be poster sessions and a buffet lunch.=
The
last scientific session will end at 4:00 p.m., with the facility tour
following this session.

MMMS members will receive a mailing in the next few days that will incl=
ude
the meeting agenda and a map with travel information. Anyone else requ=
iring
information may contact me at (847) 935-0104 or by e-mail (preferred) =
at
jane.a.fagerland-at-abbott.com.

Hope to see you all there!

Jane A. Fagerland, Ph.D.
President, MMMS
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From: michael shaffer :      mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:43:35 -0700
Subject: RE: Dye-sub printers

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Steve asks:
} ...
}
}
} We are in the market for a dye-sub printer - primarily for SEM images,
} Electron Probe Maps, TEM images, transparencies, ....
} The Sony UP-D8800 was recommended but I would appreciate comments on
} other printers concerning the print quality, reliability, etc.
}
} ...

You probably should have let us know with which computer you'll
interface with ... much of what you're asking has as much to do with the
software ...
However, we use our dye-sub withing a situation of many different
platforms all connected via TCPIP. We went with the Codonics NP1600
networking printer and haven't looked back.
But if I were to wish for perfection, it would be that it printed with
a CMYK ribbon rather than to create grayscale images with CMY. I don't
know that any dye-sub will print grayscale without a tint if their
ribbon doesn't have the K transfer. The only dye-sub I'm aware of with
includes K with CMY is Tektronix ... I'd like to know of others. (...
BTW ... All dye-subs will offer a K ribbon ... but switching between
color and grayscale printing is not practical ...)

cheerios, shAf

{} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ cogito, ergo zZOooOM /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {}
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Geological Science's Electron Probe Facility - University of Oregon
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From: Randy Tindall :      rtindell-at-NMSU.Edu
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:49:38 -0600
Subject: Re: SEM adhesive

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There is a product called Microstik offered by Ted Pella (Cat. #16033)
which sounds as if it may do what you need. I have only used it a couple
times, but as I recall it did a good job of adhering fine particulates
without drowning them.

No financial interest, etc.

Randy


Randy Tindall
Electron Microscope Laboratory
Box 3EML
New Mexico State University
Las Cruces, NM 88003

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nrtindall-at-zianet.com (home)




From: bozzola-at-siu.edu (John J. Bozzola)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:25:37 -0600
Subject: RE: Dye-sub printers

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} But if I were to wish for perfection, it would be that it printed with
} a CMYK ribbon rather than to create grayscale images with CMY. I don't
} know that any dye-sub will print grayscale without a tint if their
} ribbon doesn't have the K transfer. The only dye-sub I'm aware of with
} includes K with CMY is Tektronix ... I'd like to know of others. (...
} BTW ... All dye-subs will offer a K ribbon ... but switching between
} color and grayscale printing is not practical ...)

One addendum to Michael Shaffer's comments:

We also are extremely well pleased with our Codonics 1660M dye sub printer.

We are using the Chroma Vista color dye sub media (CMY) and the b/w media
for gray scale printing. They are supposed to be releasing a Direct Thermal
media for b/w that does not use a transfer ribbon. Perhaps at that
juncture, one could leave the color ribbon in place and use the Direct
Vista paper for b/w printing since the medium is in the paper. Of course,
this would require shutting off the color ribbon somehow. Nifty idea if
they could pull it off. Time will tell.

JB



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From: kszaruba-at-MMM.COM
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:25:27 -0500
Subject: TEM from paraffin summary

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Thanks to everyone who responded to my question!
There were a lot of good suggestions, unfortunately it will be another
couple weeks before I get to try them out.

Some of the suggestions were:
1. Use the paraffin tissue block itself instead of sections. [This is
not an option on these samples, but will keep in mind for future.]

2. Make sure the sections are } 5 microns thick, as much as 20 microns.

3. Collect on: superfrost plus glass slides, Permanox slides, or
ACLAR.

4. Or, process free-floating sections in vials (sections should be very
thick and may have curling problems).

5. To reduce reagent volumes, add drops on top of section and cover
with parafilm, or invert section over drops using toothpicks to prop up
slide. Or, process in slide mailers, which are smaller than Coplin
jars.

Thanks again,
Karen
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From: keneke-at-webtv.net (Jeanette Mena)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:06:00 -0700
Subject: Halogen lighting in microscopy

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I would greatly appreciate any information as to the possible health
hazard of using halogen lighting as a light source in microscopy.
Having scant resources at hand I built a light source using halogen
bulbs. I was told that they are a source of UV radiation. My question
is should this be of any concern?

I sincerely thank you!




From: michael shaffer :      mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:21:13 -0700
Subject: RE: SEM radiation

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Stanley L. Flegler responds:
}
}
} ...
} ... In terms of testing, they normally ask that it be tested at its
} normal opering voltage. Stanley L. Flegler
}

I figured the primary interest would be x-rays, but was looking to
separate SEMs from TEMs because "normal operating voltages" are
generally less than 30kV, rather than generally more than 100kV. Is
there any rationale for claiming 30keV x-rays simply cannot escape the
instrument???

cheerios, shAf






From: jmkrupp-at-cats.ucsc.edu (Jon Krupp)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:40:26 -0700
Subject: 'Darkroom in Use' signs/light?

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Hi:

Can anyone direct me to a source of those nifty lights/signs that go on the
outside of a darkroom door with a switch inside to turn them on and off? I
have looked several places with no luck. Even simple home made ideas would
work for us.

Thanks

Jonathan Krupp
Microscopy and Imaging Lab
University of California
Santa Cruz, CA 95064
(408) 459-2477
FAX (408) 429-0146
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From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 98 00:12:29 -0500
Subject: Radiation from EM's

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Pnina Ari-Gur wrote:
================================================
Is SEM considered radiation creating instrument that has to be registered?
*******************************************************************
This is a legal kind of question and the answer depends on the political
jurisdiction in which you reside. In the USA, it is determined on a state-
by-state basis, and I suspect in other countries, on a country by country
basis.

In Pennsylvania, we are required to register each instrument with the state.
We also are required to have someone radiation check each registered
instrument. The requirements for NJ are different than they are for PA. So
you have to contact the officials in your own state, usually located in some
kind of a "radiation physics" kind of department, and find out about the
legal requirements for your own specific situation.

But these requirements should not be lightly dismissed as some kind of
bureaucratic boondoggle. There have been enough "horror stories" over the
years and these are the kinds of stories that literally "drive" regulators
and the promulgation of regulations:

a) On several occasions, a TEM "viewing glass" was broken, and when hearing
the high price of a replacement from the manufacturer (which would have been
lead glass), the user replaced the glass (without realizing what they were
doing) with more ordinary silica glass, resulting in long term radiation
exposure to the operator.

b) Some of the older instruments designed in the 1950's at a time before
the hazards of radiation exposure were fully appreciated became recognized
as "known emitters". The affected manufacturers apparently did various
retrofits to those instruments once the hazards became known. I can myself
remember operating one of these instruments but only while wearing a lead
apron! But I would still be concerned about any pre-1960 instrument that
has not been recently and regularly checked for radiation leakage, including
the adjustment knobs on the lenses.

c) I have myself encountered at least on one occasion an SEM that had been
modified with the placement of a "see through" port (to observe
cathodoluminesence) which was not made of lead glass. In another instance,
my admonitions caused an SEM user to not install a "port" plate with
"Plexiglas".


Modern instruments seem to be made in a way that x-rays just can not escape
during regular operation. And if the instrument is so far out of alignment
that x-rays do escape, then it would also be out of alignment to the extent
that it would not be possible to hold a high vacuum and therefore even get
high voltage and a beam. So the end result is again, there is no chance of
escape of x-rays.

Radiation badges seem to give some peace of mind with regard to the kinds of
massive kinds of leaks described above. However, the leaks that might be
occurring, such as when using adjustment knobs on the column, and which
would result in exposure to the fingers and hands, would not be registering
typically on a radiation badge. Hence one has to guard against the
radiation badge becoming a false sense of security. And one should pay
particular attention to radiation that might be emanating from the
adjustment knobs on a column.

My firm offers no products or services in the radiation physics area. These
are my own views and opinions as a result of 35 years in the world of EM.
I am told by some that I over exaggerate the hazards of a modern SEM or TEM.
But not everyone uses modern EMs and also, any laboratory is vulnerable to
someone doing something dumb, like replacing a broken glass window with
something other than the manufacturer's recommended replacement part (and
without anyone even knowing about it). That is why I believe that any EM
instrument, whether required by law or not, be checked periodically for
radiation leakage, just to be sure.

Chuck

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From: Arthur Schuessler :      schueslr-at-sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:22:26 +0200
Subject: Thermosub with CMYK

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The cheap (!) FARGO thermosub printers also print with CMY, CMY+Overlay
(same ribbon) OR with a CMYK ribbon OR with a K ribbon (b/w). Resolution
300x600 max.
We own one, it works well, but I don't have possibility to compare it with
others, so can't state anything about that. We bought it because of tests
in computer journals (don't remember which) and our limited money.

you wrote:

} But if I were to wish for perfection, it would be that it printed with
} a CMYK ribbon rather than to create grayscale images with CMY. I don't
} know that any dye-sub will print grayscale without a tint if their
} ribbon doesn't have the K transfer. The only dye-sub I'm aware of with
} includes K with CMY is Tektronix ... I'd like to know of others. (...
} BTW ... All dye-subs will offer a K ribbon ... but switching between
} color and grayscale printing is not practical ...)

Dr. Arthur Schuessler
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From: Keith Ryan :      kpr-at-wpo.nerc.ac.uk
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 08:29:56 +0100
Subject: Radiation from EM's -Reply

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Further to Chuck Garber's comments:

We were inspected by the National Radiological Protection Board (our
official Radtiation Advisers, in UK) who found nothing of concern but
started us wondering. For about two years thereafter, we wore
radiation monitoring badges initially which showed nothing. Then we
posted badges at strategic place around the column (held on by sticky
tape). We never found anything on them, although sensitive radiation
counters could occasionally pick up counts from certain areas (such as
around where the x-ray detectors enter the column!). The worst problem
was the plaster (skim coating) on the wall of the room, the natural
background in the building is relatively much higher!.

Keith Ryan
Plymouth Marine Lab., UK




From: Keith Ryan :      kpr-at-wpo.nerc.ac.uk
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 08:39:58 +0100
Subject: Halogen lighting in microscopy -Reply

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Jeanette

I would not think that you have any real problem. These bulbs are used
generally in microscopy, slide projectors, car headlights and probably
other uses too. All lamps will produce a spectrum of radiations but not
excessively in the UV band unless designed to do so specifically, like
high pressure mercury lamps for fluorescence microscopy. Most simple
light microscopes don't incorporate UV filtering in their setup.

Common sense says don't spend long looking at it i.e. don't expose your
eyes directly to the light!

I would be more concerned about the electrical safety. You need to make
sure the unit checks out ok in that area. Don't risk electrocution!

Keith Ryan
Plymouth Marine Lab., UK




From: Allen R. Sampson :      ars-at-sem.com
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:52:18 -0600
Subject: Re: SEM

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In many states, it is. The funny thing is that the 'soft' radiation
emitted by an SEM (should there be a breach in the shielding) is
often not detectable by the survey equipment required. In most
cases, you'll get higher readings from an EDS monitor.

As I recall (a fragile thing), Michigan is indeed a state that
requires such testing. Your institution can likely provide the
certification through their plant maintenance department.

TEM operators should be more attentive to these requirements. The
higher operating voltages produce 'harder' radiation that can be more
penetrating. In addition, there are more opportunities for emission
through the column and chamber accesses.

Brings to mind a TEM manufacturer who, many years ago, supplied
instruments with viewport glass that was not leaded per spec. Many
old time TEM operators took to wearing their radiation badges after
that.

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From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Friday, April 17, 1998 12:14 PM
Subject: Radiation from EM's

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Chuck made some interesting comments on radiation leaks from EM's. I am
sure we have all come across very dangerous situations over the years. I
can remember my first job in a hospital pathology lab where the Osmium was
mixed on an open bench because the main operator had destroyed his sense of
smell. Thankfully I moved on quickly !

There was one potential source of X-Rays that was not mentioned. With side
arm insertion on TEM's if the arm is left out the beam may be switched on
for alignment etc. ). This produces X-Rays at eye level. ( We use this
to test our Geiger counter ! ) One to watch.


Colin Reid
Electron Microscope Unit,
Trinity College Dublin,
Dublin 2,
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From: Woody.N.White-at-mcdermott.com
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 7:46:00 -0500
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cgarber wrote: {snip}

However, the leaks that might be occurring, such as when using
adjustment knobs on the column, and which would result in exposure
to the fingers and hands, would not be registering typically on a
radiation badge. Hence one has to guard against the radiation
badge becoming a false sense of security. And one should pay
particular attention to radiation that might be emanating from the
adjustment knobs on a column.
{snip}
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If such a concern exists, TLD* finger rings are available....
*- ThermoLuminescent Dosimeter

I use them from time to time. Not to measure dose from my SEM.
but to check the dose from some of the samples I must prepare!

Woody White, McDermott Technology, Inc.




From: Dejan.Krizaj-at-fe.uni-lj.si (Dejan Krizaj)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:56:46 +0200
Subject: Minisymposium on SEMICONDUCTOR RADIATION DETECTORS

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Dear colleague,

Please allow me to inform you of a Minisymposium on SEMICONDUCTOR
RADIATION DETECTORS which will be held during the 34th Conference on
Microelectronics, Devices and Materials (MIDEM) in Rogaska Slatina,
Slovenia, September 23-25, 1998.

In the framework of the minisymposia, several invited speakers will
present different aspects of the chosen topic, thus
offering the audience valuable complete information.
The minisymposium invited speakers will be:
Dr. Gerhard Lutz from Max-Plank Institute fur Physic, Munich,
Germany;
Dr. Joseph Kemmer, KETTEK Gmbh, Germany,
Dr. Peter Weilheimer, CERN, Switzerland;
Dr. Walter Bonvicini, Instituto Nazionale di Fisica Nucleare,
Trieste,Italy

Complete information regarding submission of papers, topics of invited
lectures, conference location etc. can be found on Web page
http://pollux.fer.uni-lj.si/midem/conf98.htm

(Deadline for submission of papers is May 15th)

Hope to see you in Rogaska Slatina!

With best regards,
Dejan Krizaj

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From: Dejan.Krizaj-at-fe.uni-lj.si (Dejan Krizaj)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:56:46 +0200
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Dear colleague,

Please allow me to inform you of a Minisymposium on SEMICONDUCTOR
RADIATION DETECTORS which will be held during the 34th Conference on
Microelectronics, Devices and Materials (MIDEM) in Rogaska Slatina,
Slovenia, September 23-25, 1998.

In the framework of the minisymposia, several invited speakers will
present different aspects of the chosen topic, thus
offering the audience valuable complete information.
The minisymposium invited speakers will be:
Dr. Gerhard Lutz from Max-Plank Institute fur Physic, Munich,
Germany;
Dr. Joseph Kemmer, KETTEK Gmbh, Germany,
Dr. Peter Weilheimer, CERN, Switzerland;
Dr. Walter Bonvicini, Instituto Nazionale di Fisica Nucleare,
Trieste,Italy

Complete information regarding submission of papers, topics of invited
lectures, conference location etc. can be found on Web page
http://pollux.fer.uni-lj.si/midem/conf98.htm

(Deadline for submission of papers is May 15th)

Hope to see you in Rogaska Slatina!

With best regards,
Dejan Krizaj

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From: Doug Cromey :      doug-cromey-at-ns.arizona.edu
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:38:28
Subject: longevity of digital data

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Look into the Codonics 1600 and 1660. Quality is excellent, company
support is great and cost per print is certainly comperable if not less than
many other brands. It is built using a Kodak engine but has the most advanced
software of any printer that I have heard of in this price catagory
($9000-13,000). This printer permits adjustment of gamma and contrast at the
printer....a great feature when printing from drawing programs which do not
permit these changes. We do a lot of labeling of images and gels in a drawing
program and want to print directly with ability to adjust brightness and
contrast of image if necessary.

Also it is very easy to send multiple files to a single sheet of paper
with the printer doing the scaling to fit. You can instruct the printer to
divid a sheet into 4-6 or more sections and then send that number of images to
it. This is great for making quick hard copies of digital SEM images at low
cost.

I have requested a number of feature updates since we purchased our
printer 4 months ago and the company has been very receptive to addressing
these issues. And if there is a mechanical problem with a printer that cannot
be fixed over the phone, they are not opposed to drop shipping a new printer
so your down time is minimal.

Debby Sherman, manager
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We are in the market for a dye-sub printer - primarily for SEM images,
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Thanks,
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This came to me this morning via EduCom's edupage technology digest. Since
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From: Paiboon NUANNIN :      npaiboon-at-ratree.psu.ac.th
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 21:49:32 +0700 (GMT)
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Dear Brian

I have some mores suggestion as below

1. V1 doesn't work in auto mode
-Control circuit is malfunction i.e. IC1(vac control),IC8,
Tr5.
V1 won't work in manual.
-check V1 and solinoid valve, air pressure
2. if the control circuit and V1 working properly at 190 UA V1 should be
open to get HVAC.
3. All valve will operate manually while they are running in Auto mode
because we by pass the control circuit .

4. V5 doestn't operate in auto

-check airlock door swich

regards,

Paiboon Nuannin
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} 1) the leak rate from HVac is {3uA/min
} atm=250uA
} Hvac=25uA on vacuum meter test points (OK)
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} 2) V1 doesn't work in auto mode, and many times won't work in manual
}
} 3) DP heater warms up (light on) in about 20minutes
}
} 4) R4 vacuum control pot will not make V1 open when vacuum meter {190uA
} while in auto mode
}
} 5) solenoid valve for the closing side of V1 will not release pressure
} so that the opening side of the valve (when pressurized) will force the
} valve to open.... most of the time (related to #2 above)
}
} 6) some of the valves (like v4) will actuate manually when the
} controls are
} in the auto mode (is this normal...or an indication that the logic is
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From: Jacky Larnould :      larnould-at-worldnet.fr
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:46:03 +0200
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I would like to know what is your EM.
As a field engineer since 22 years, I can tell you NO SEM and NO TEM from
any manufacturer has Xray leakage
The problem is coming and at that point I agree with Mr Garber, when the
people has modified or replacing original parts with local supply for example.
Speaking about the microscope I know, Jeol, It's for example impossible to
generate beam on a 2010 (200kv) with no
sample holder, there is an opto coupler detector. Of course if you insert
something that simulate the holder
you can have the beam. But this is a wrong manipulation. Like to remove a
Gamma source from it's lead castle.
You can do it but you have to think about that because you have be warned!
Same for electron microscopy.
May be you can check the statistics about cancer in the EM environment, for
myself since all that years, all my
collegues and competitors are still living and I'm sure that cigarettes
cause more painfull than EM radiation.
This reply is not for starting a polemic but just to tell that ,we,
manufacturers of microscopes are responsible people and it's also our
health when we are working on theses machines.
Cheers.

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From: Kenneth A. Taylor :      taylor-at-bio.fsu.edu
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:14:59 -0500
Subject: video microscope

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I am looking to purchase a video camera that can be mounted on a light
microscope to display microscope sections via a video projector. The video
projector is a Sharp model XGE1200U. The resolution of this projector is
800X600 for PC or 832X624 for Mac. I want to be able to project real time
pictures from a light microscope using this same system. Last fall I tried
this with an older video camera mounted on this microscope (640 x 480
resolution) but the images were too pixilated to be really useful.
However, images projected from a Macintosh computer were fine. Does anyone
know of a high line resolution camera (video rate) that they have used for
a similar purpose that might help me out?

Responses from Vendors are welcome.

Cheers -- Ken

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From: Mike Boykin :      Mike.Boykin-at-leica-microsystems.com
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Leica, the first name in ultramicrotomy, Diatome US, and Electron
Microscopy Sciences announce another in a series "ultramicrotomy of
materials" workshops.

Bring Your Own Samples!!!

Focus on hands-on participation of the following:

Embedding of industrial samples Specimen trimming

Ultramicrotomy of hard materials SEM applications of microtomy

Ultramicrotomy of polymers Section collection & handling

Low temperature sectioning

Course Instructors:

Dr. Tom Malis Mr. Helmut Gnagi
Materials Characterization Group Leader Hard Materials Specialist
Canadian Federal Laboratory Diatome, Ltd. Switzerland

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Tuition: $1,100.00 USD

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From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:58:37 -0400 (EDT)
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Dear Jacky,
}
} I would like to know what is your EM.
} As a field engineer since 22 years, I can tell you NO SEM and NO TEM from
} any manufacturer has Xray leakage
} The problem is coming and at that point I agree with Mr Garber, when the
} people has modified or replacing original parts with local supply for example.

Here is where Charles Garber's points can be particularly well-taken.
We had an old JEOL JEM200 (no longer in service) which had a radiation leak
at the side-entry airlock. This leak was very directional, and with the
operator seated, there was no exposure. However, if the operator were to
stand up with the beam on, (s)he would, indeed, be exposed to x-rays. This
occurred with the original equipment--there were no modifications. It must
be added that this scope was manufactured before ANSI standards for radia-
tion-producing equipment were in effect, and finding this sort of leak was
part of the impetus for developing those standards.

} Speaking about the microscope I know, Jeol, It's for example impossible to
} generate beam on a 2010 (200kv) with no
} sample holder, there is an opto coupler detector. Of course if you insert
} something that simulate the holder
} you can have the beam. But this is a wrong manipulation. Like to remove a
} Gamma source from it's lead castle.

This is a good example of an improvement of the safety of EM's.
However, the old instrument would leak x-rays whether a specimen was in
or not.

} You can do it but you have to think about that because you have be warned!
} Same for electron microscopy.

Yes. There's only so much that the manufacturer can do. One must
take responsibility for one's own safety. (Of course, someone must provide
appropriate safety instructions, but it is up to the individual to follow
them.)

} May be you can check the statistics about cancer in the EM environment, for
} myself since all that years, all my
} collegues and competitors are still living and I'm sure that cigarettes
} cause more painfull than EM radiation.

Even if the EM produces some radiation, there is likely to be a
larger effect from concrete walls (potassium-40) or living at altitude,
which increases radiation exposure 24 hours a day, than from the equipment.
And, yes, cigarettes are much more carcinogenic.

} This reply is not for starting a polemic but just to tell that ,we,
} manufacturers of microscopes are responsible people and it's also our
} health when we are working on theses machines.

I'd say that EM manufacturers are well above average in this respect.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




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From: edelmare-at-casmail.muohio.edu
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:21:22 -0500
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"ribbon doesn't have the K transfer. The only dye-sub I'm aware of with
includes K with CMY is Tektronix ... I'd like to know of others. "

Silly, commment! The Kodak 8600 and 8650 series both can utilize the CMYK (and K
only) ribbons. Afterall this is the engine upon which the N16xx's are built!


Next comment: ...and this is a really scary one. Since we couldn't afford the nice
interface of the Codonics NP1600/1660 we just got delivery of a Kodak DS 8650 PS ($7k
after current $1500 Kodak rebate). O.k. Last fall in desperation for something to
print color we bought an Epson Photo-stylus for $325.00. After printing the exact same
image (digital composed at true 800 dpi resoultion) to both the Kodak ($3.50 / page -
300dpi) and the Epson (glossy 'film' media $2.20/page - 720 dpi) a series of
comparisons were made, by experience EM users and photographers here with the result
being that (1) beyond 12" you can not see a difference other than the fact that the
Espon print has a little sepia tint to it, (2) "Up-close / In-your-face" the ink dots
are detectable in the Epson prints and there is a slight presence of the 'printer head
lines' in the deepest solid black areas (i.e. print something solid black on a laser
printer and look for horizontal lines), (3) final difference Kodak's extralife coating
has an archive life expectancy of } 50yrs (well its lasted 5 days so far! We'll just
have to wait and see.), (4) both printers take approximately the same amount of time to
print (O.k., the Condonics is "the fastest on the market", and wasn't run in a side by
side comparison).

Now on the cheaper papers (Media) for the Ink jets you get a very nice image quality
(albeit not that'll match the dye-sub, but still very acceptible) you start dropping
the price/page alot, i.e. $0.75/page, $0.24/page, $0.10/page (...then you hit laser
printers, anyway). And for work prints, reviewer copies, etc. these are very good.

Lets see $14,000 printer = $325 Epsons x 43 units ....



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From: edelmare-at-casmail.muohio.edu :      edelmare-at-casmail.muohio.edu
Date: Friday, April 17, 1998 11:27 PM
Subject: RE: Dye-sub printers

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In reference to your conversation on printers... You are right that the
Epson printer has more bang for the bucks in my opinion.
I have been selling the dye-subs for some years now. After doing umteen side
by side demos you can hardly tell the difference between the two. i let the
customer do the comparison... By far the Epson Stylus 800 and not the Epson
photo Stylus is better. it does 1440 DPI.. I suggest the Photo glossy
paper from Hammermill. Others such has the new paper from polaroid are sort
of yellowish to start.
That is kind of hard to notice unless you do a hands on comparison.
The Epson Stylus 800 going now for about $350 with the paper running about a
buck a print... Check it out, You'll be amazed....CP
-----Original Message-----

"ribbon doesn't have the K transfer. The only dye-sub I'm aware of with
includes K with CMY is Tektronix ... I'd like to know of others. "

Silly, commment! The Kodak 8600 and 8650 series both can utilize the CMYK
(and K
only) ribbons. Afterall this is the engine upon which the N16xx's are
built!


Next comment: ...and this is a really scary one. Since we couldn't afford
the nice
interface of the Codonics NP1600/1660 we just got delivery of a Kodak DS
8650 PS ($7k
after current $1500 Kodak rebate). O.k. Last fall in desperation for
something to
print color we bought an Epson Photo-stylus for $325.00. After printing the
exact same
image (digital composed at true 800 dpi resoultion) to both the Kodak ($3.50
/ page -
300dpi) and the Epson (glossy 'film' media $2.20/page - 720 dpi) a series
of
comparisons were made, by experience EM users and photographers here with
the result
being that (1) beyond 12" you can not see a difference other than the fact
that the
Espon print has a little sepia tint to it, (2) "Up-close / In-your-face" the
ink dots
are detectable in the Epson prints and there is a slight presence of the
'printer head
lines' in the deepest solid black areas (i.e. print something solid black on
a laser
printer and look for horizontal lines), (3) final difference Kodak's
extralife coating
has an archive life expectancy of } 50yrs (well its lasted 5 days so far!
We'll just
have to wait and see.), (4) both printers take approximately the same amount
of time to
print (O.k., the Condonics is "the fastest on the market", and wasn't run in
a side by
side comparison).

Now on the cheaper papers (Media) for the Ink jets you get a very nice image
quality
(albeit not that'll match the dye-sub, but still very acceptible) you start
dropping
the price/page alot, i.e. $0.75/page, $0.24/page, $0.10/page (...then you
hit laser
printers, anyway). And for work prints, reviewer copies, etc. these are
very good.

Lets see $14,000 printer = $325 Epsons x 43 units ....



Richard E. Edelmann, Ph.D.
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From: Cono Passione :      iami-at-nauticom.net
Date: Saturday, April 18, 1998 2:34 AM
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From: PLDahl :      PLDahl-at-aol.com
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 09:45:25 EDT
Subject: Halogen lighting in microscopy -Reply

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Halogen bulbs in general use do produce a significant amount of UV radiation.
The halogen lamps sold for home use now all have a simple UV filter to reduce
the exposure. UV is readily filtered and as long as you are not looking at
the light directly there should not be a problem. If you will be spending a
lot of time looking at the light directly, that is not filtered by passing
through some other material first, it might be a good idea to place a simple
UV fiter in front of the bulb.

****
Keith Ryan wrote:
I would not think that you have any real problem. These bulbs are used
generally in microscopy, slide projectors, car headlights and probably
other uses too. All lamps will produce a spectrum of radiations but not
excessively in the UV band unless designed to do so specifically, like
high pressure mercury lamps for fluorescence microscopy. Most simple
light microscopes don't incorporate UV filtering in their setup.

Common sense says don't spend long looking at it i.e. don't expose your
eyes directly to the light!
****
Phil Dahlstrom
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From: Nestor J. Zaluzec :      zaluzec-at-Sparc5.Microscopy.Com
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 16:50:02 -0600
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Colleagues....

I have just completed putting the Microscopy & Microanalysis'98
Search Engine on-line at:

http://www.msa.microscopy.com

Just follow the links to the Microscopy & Microanalysis'98
Meeting Page. Using this engine you may search the program
by Author, Keyword, Symposium and/or day of the week.
The data base is not perfect, so if you find any errors please report
them to me off-line.

The Program Committee has once again done an excellent
job and it promises to be an great meeting as always.
See you there....

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From: Colin Reid :      creid-at-tcd.ie
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 07:07:16 +0100
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Dear Jacky,

My comment on the potential source of X-Rays from the side-arm of our TEM
was not a recommendation for people to operate in this manner. For the
record our TEM is 10 years old and the tip was given to us by an experienced
TEM engineer from the manufacturer. We were testing for radiation and were
not getting any counts ( except from the Manager's old watch ! ). He
suggested this as a means to confirm that the test equipment was working.
I have no idea whether any Jeol TEM's of a similar age would perform in the
same way. Perhaps an owner of a JEM 1200 would like to test this ? I do
agree that the manufacturers have been extremely safety conscious in the
development of modern EM's. Older EM's unfortunately were not as safe.
Also I am sorry to be the barer of bad news but some of your colleagues are
not in the best of health, since a number of them that I have known
personally have passed away over the last number of years. One of my own
colleagues died from cancer in her 30's. Electron Microscopy, & associated
preparative techniques, can be a hazardous environment. All we can do is
be as safety conscious as possible and try and minimise the risks.

Colin Reid

Electron Microscope Unit,
Trinity College Dublin,
Dublin 2,
Rep. of Ireland.
Tel: 353-1-6081820
Fax: 353-1-6770438
email: creid-at-tcd.ie



} Hello
}
} I would like to know what is your EM.
} As a field engineer since 22 years, I can tell you NO SEM and NO TEM from
} any manufacturer has Xray leakage
} The problem is coming and at that point I agree with Mr Garber, when the
} people has modified or replacing original parts with local supply for
example.
} Speaking about the microscope I know, Jeol, It's for example impossible to
} generate beam on a 2010 (200kv) with no
} sample holder, there is an opto coupler detector. Of course if you insert
} something that simulate the holder
} you can have the beam. But this is a wrong manipulation. Like to remove a
} Gamma source from it's lead castle.
} You can do it but you have to think about that because you have be warned!
} Same for electron microscopy.
} May be you can check the statistics about cancer in the EM environment, for
} myself since all that years, all my
} collegues and competitors are still living and I'm sure that cigarettes
} cause more painfull than EM radiation.
} This reply is not for starting a polemic but just to tell that ,we,
} manufacturers of microscopes are responsible people and it's also our
} health when we are working on theses machines.
} Cheers.
}
} ===================================
} Jacky Larnould
} JEOL Europe SA Service Manager
} mailto:larnould-at-worlnet.fr
} mailto:larnould-at-mnet.fr
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} Phone:33 (0)4 67 72 28 26
} Fax :33 (0)4 67 79 54 90
}





From: Cono Passione :      iami-at-nauticom.net
Date: Saturday, April 18, 1998 2:01 PM
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We have been using an Epson 800 for a few months now and have produced
images on Epson Glossy Film which have been accepted by customers in plac=
e
of conventional photos. Excellent quality but shame about the price
(=A31.80/sheet) ! I have just tested some paper from a supplier ( "own =
brand
paper" ) here. The paper is 140g Glossy at a cost of 7p/sheet ( about 1=
0
cents ). The quality is excellent but it crinkles slightly. Still for
the price !


Colin Reid
Electron Microscope Unit,
Trinity College Dublin,
Dublin 2,
Rep. of Ireland.
Tel: 353-1-6081820
Fax: 353-1-6770438
email: creid-at-tcd.ie

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Ultrapath IX will be held in beautiful Asheville, North Carolina,
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From: Bobrowski, Walter :      Walter.Bobrowski-at-wl.com
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:47:16 -0400
Subject: Digital Image Printers: My Two Cents!

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Opinions aside (and there are many!), the only true test of printer
comparisons is for world-wide colleagues to take a digital image and
find a vendor which can generate sample prints from the various print
technologies available: inkjet, laserjet, dye-sublimation and hybrid.
Also, relating the printer technology to what is applied in the darkroom
will yield an understanding of what constitutes an acceptable image.
Personally I have done the aforementioned with a series of
digitally-captured TEM images. Basically, for our personal needs, TEM
negatives have been printed using a high-contrast point light source.
Diffuse-light sources generate softer edges (less contrast) which for us
has been acceptable for black & white LM histology images but not for
TEM. The technology of dye-sub printers (subliming the dye to a
gaseous state which permeates the fibers of the print media) results in
quality similar to using a diffuse-light source with TEM
negatives--everything has a soft edge. Inkjets are high-contrast
technologies and the high-resolution Epson (1440 dpi on photo-quality
glossy paper) results in truly remarkable, near-photographic images
(held at some distance away. Close examination reveals pixelation).
The Epson also more closely matched in color balance a true TEM
photographic print (print options set to BLACK ONLY--not COLOR).
Finally, the best bang for the buck is outputted from the Fujix
Pictrography, a hybrid type of technology that uses silver halide for
image formation--so it acts like a Polaroid for image processing, but
the results are darkroom photography!
However, due to cost factors, we seem to be headed in the direction to
print TEM image "thumbnails" on our dye-sub (Black Ribbon ONLY-not
color) and generating manuscript prints on the Pictrography (both TEM
and color LM).
There--now I can get down off the Dye-Sub soapbox!

Best regards,

Walt Bobrowski
Subcellular Pathology
Parke-Davis Research
Ann Arbor, MI 48105

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From: ROBIN CROSS :      eurc-at-giraffe.ru.ac.za
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:15:16 GMT+0200
Subject: Re: Radiation from EM's

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Hello Colin

} I have no idea whether any Jeol TEM's of a similar age would perform in the
} same way. Perhaps an owner of a JEM 1200 would like to test this ?

As with the 2010, the JEM 1210 does not allow the filament to be
turned on without a specimen holder in place.

Robin




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From: Arthur Schuessler :      schueslr-at-sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:16:03 +0200
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The cheap FARGO PrimeraPro thermosub printer also prints with CMY, CMY+Overlay
(same ribbon) OR with a CMYK ribbon OR with a K ribbon (b/w). Resolution
300x600 max.
We bought one, it works well, but I don't have possibility to compare it with
others, so can't state much about that. We bought it because of tests
in computer journals (don't remember which) and our limited money.

wrote:

} But if I were to wish for perfection, it would be that it printed with
} a CMYK ribbon rather than to create grayscale images with CMY. I don't
} know that any dye-sub will print grayscale without a tint if their
} ribbon doesn't have the K transfer. The only dye-sub I'm aware of with
} includes K with CMY is Tektronix ... I'd like to know of others. (...
} BTW ... All dye-subs will offer a K ribbon ... but switching between
} color and grayscale printing is not practical ...)






From: Glen MacDonald :      glenmac-at-u.washington.edu
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:32:26 -0800
Subject: Alps printers

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Does anyone have experience with the Alps dry-ink printers? I'm
interested in the Epson 800 or 1520 printers to take the burden off of
our Tek Phaser IIsdx. They are listed at 720 dpi, yet with less bleed
they might rival higher dpi inkjets, and the ink is water resistant.

TIA,
-- Glen MacDonald
Virginia Merrill Bloedel Hearing Research Center
Box 357923
University of Washington
Seattle, WA 98195-7923
glenmac-at-u.washington.edu
(206) 616-4156
(206) 616-1828 fax
The box said "Requires Windows95 or better". So I bought a Macintosh.





From: Ian MacLaren :      I.MacLaren-at-BHAM.AC.UK
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:43:00 +0100
Subject: Transparencies for inkjet printers

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Dear all,
Please excuse the slightly non-microscopy topic of this posting.

I have an Epson Stylus Color 800 inkjet printer (with which I am very
happy). The cost of Epson's own brand A4 OHP transparency slides is pretty
high, though (} =A31 each). Are there aternative brands that work just as
well but cost less or am I best of sticking to the manufacturers own brand?

Thanks for any advice, opinions etc. that you can give.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ian MacLaren, Tel: (44) (0) 121 414 3447
IRC in Materials for FAX: (44) (0) 121 414 3441
High Performance Applications, email: I.MacLaren-at-bham.ac.uk
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Birmingham B15 2TT,
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From: Bruce Brinson :      brinson-at-rice.edu
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:01:46 -0500
Subject: TEM, camera recap

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It was not my original intention to post a summery but I have
received more request for the summery than I have responses from users.
The # of responses was small ( {10) but then I only asked for
experiences on systems less than a year old.

Owners & users of video systems were generally happy with their
systems. People with slow scan cameras that were in operational order
were also generally content with the system performance. The catch here
is "operational order"
By far the major complaint in dealing with Gatan is that of timely
delivery & getting online when promised. One respondent stated that
delays were so great that they nearly lost their funding prior to
delivery. Apparently field service leaves much to be desired. Salesman
failing to return voice & e-mail was complaint. Salesman also seemed to
be oblivious to the physical constraints of mounting their hardware in
our confined spaces. I guess just like in a lot of other industries
salesman are the problem, the 1st source of disinformation & false
expectation.

A few comments on specific pieces:
Model 789, a side mt. video camera
"quality of the images is barely adequate"
"not publication quality"
" used primarily for demonstrations"

Model 673/III , video camera
"expensive but extremely useful "
"sensitive ...used for low-dose cryo"
"low res & less than 8 bit gray scale, effectively"

Model 791, MultiScan camera
" happy with hardware & software"
" a very polished package"

MultiScan camera, model unknown.
Gatan can't get software configured on G3 MAC, tech left & has yet to
return.

Locally, Gatan has failed miserably in the tech support & software
compatibility areas. I was a bit surprised at this report but knowing
the source I considered it valid.
My primary purpose for surveying the user group is to find out if this
is a local or global problem. It seems global. Based primarily on this
perception we have elected not to pursue a Gatan Multi-scan camera this
year. Perhaps when Gatan is in better light we will reconsider, after
all this type of system is a part of the modern hi-res TEM.
In general people are happy with Gatan once installed & operational
but the transition from salesman blowing air to operational seems
riddled with delays. No one is impressed by the cost of the systems or
upgrades. Again once operational there eq. performs as expected. For
some applications Gatan is the way to go.
Retrospectively I am sure most respondents will look closer at
competitors
next time around. For a lot of applications one can throw down 5-10K$
for a
good digital negative scanner. Then there is a broad choice in
software.

One thing I had hoped for but got no feed back on is Gatan's PC
based software. I thought it had been released., maybe not. Can anyone
address this subject?


Bruce Brinson,
Rice U.





From: Wolfgang Muss :      W.Muss-at-lkasbg.gv.at
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 19:06:57 +-200
Subject: REMINDER: 6th IMMC, SALZBURG, AUSTRIA 5-9th Oct. 98; Journal: CELL VISION

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Salzburg, 20th April 1998, local time: 6.55 p.m.

Dear listers, netters, honorable colleague,

I would like to invite you to visit the web-page

} } } http://www.kongress.at/IMMC { { {

for informations on the
6th International Conference and Workshops on
Molecular Morphology

to be held in SALZBURG, AUSTRIA
5th to 9th of October 1998

Easy retrieval of informations, pre-registration,
and registration provided by link set-up.


To all those of you who were interested in receiving information on the =
journal
CELL VISION=20
I would like to inform you about some NEWS:

CELL VISION : --------------} } } } } NEW INTERNET WEB-SITE:

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From: jmkrupp-at-cats.ucsc.edu (Jon Krupp)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:37:48 -0700
Subject: TEM film holder for Beseler 45M

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Hi:

We inherited a Beseler 45M enlarger, but no negative holder for 3 1/4" x 4"
TEM film.

We use a crude, homemade holder now. A real one would be nice. Anyone have
an extra or know where I can get one?

Thanks

Jonathan Krupp
Microscopy and Imaging Lab
University of California
Santa Cruz, CA 95064
(408) 459-2477
FAX (408) 429-0146
jmkrupp-at-cats.ucsc.edu






From: Glen MacDonald :      glenmac-at-u.washington.edu
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:12:54 -0800
Subject: Negative Scanners

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I have some users who want to make high resolution scans of 4x5 TEM
negatives. The 45 series scanners from Nikon, Polaroid, et al run
US$8,000-9,000. However, I've been told that they are barely capable of
3.0 OD at 4"x5". The Imacon flatbed will deliver 3.9 at 4"x5", but it
is about US$16,000.
What are others using for scanning negatives?

TIA,
-- Glen MacDonald
Virginia Merrill Bloedel Hearing Research Center
Box 357923
University of Washington
Seattle, WA 98195-7923
glenmac-at-u.washington.edu
(206) 616-4156
(206) 616-1828 fax
The box said "Requires Windows95 or better". So I bought a Macintosh.





From: Patty Jansma :      plj-at-neurobio.arizona.edu
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:15:29 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Alps printers

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We have an Alps printer and are very happy with it. We have it for the
same reason you would like to have one-- to remove some of the pressure on
our Tek Phaser IIsdx.

Patty Jansma Tel:520-621-6671
plj-at-manduca.neurobio.arizona.edu
Arizona Research Labs Division of Neurobiology
University of Arizona

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} Does anyone have experience with the Alps dry-ink printers? I'm
} interested in the Epson 800 or 1520 printers to take the burden off of
} our Tek Phaser IIsdx. They are listed at 720 dpi, yet with less bleed
} they might rival higher dpi inkjets, and the ink is water resistant.
}
} TIA,
} -- Glen MacDonald
} Virginia Merrill Bloedel Hearing Research Center
} Box 357923
} University of Washington
} Seattle, WA 98195-7923
} glenmac-at-u.washington.edu
} (206) 616-4156
} (206) 616-1828 fax
} The box said "Requires Windows95 or better". So I bought a Macintosh.
}





From: Tong Wang :      tong-at-cebaf.gov
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:28:00 -0400
Subject: PC interface for Amray 1830 and EDX 9900

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I have an AMRAY 1830 SEM (with joystick for stage control) and EDAX 9900.
Now I am thinking about getting a PC interface for the SEM and EDX using my
very, very limited funding available. The features must include SEM image
acquisition and storage(SEM control and image processing are not needed),
stage control (in X,Y), unattended EDX acquisition and X-ray mapping(with
Be window open/close control if possible).
Anybody has such experience and would suggest a solution? Any response is
appreciated.

Tong


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12000 Jefferson Avenue fax: (757)269-7658
Newport News, VA23606 tel: (757)269-7334
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From: Hendrik O. Colijn :      colijn.1-at-osu.edu
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:00:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Negative Scanners

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I believe that TEM film has a density range of about 2.8-2.9. If this is
true, any scanner with a range of over 3 should work.

Henk


}
} I have some users who want to make high resolution scans of 4x5 TEM
} negatives. The 45 series scanners from Nikon, Polaroid, et al run
} US$8,000-9,000. However, I've been told that they are barely capable of
} 3.0 OD at 4"x5". The Imacon flatbed will deliver 3.9 at 4"x5", but it
} is about US$16,000.
} What are others using for scanning negatives?

} TIA,
} -- Glen MacDonald
} Virginia Merrill Bloedel Hearing Research Center
} Box 357923
} University of Washington
} Seattle, WA 98195-7923
} glenmac-at-u.washington.edu
} (206) 616-4156
} (206) 616-1828 fax
} The box said "Requires Windows95 or better". So I bought a Macintosh.
}
}
Hendrik O. Colijn colijn.1-at-osu.edu
Campus Electron Optics Facility Ohio State University
(614) 292-0674
Murphy's Law: "If anything can go wrong, it will."
Commentary: "Murphy was an optimist."




From: Jaap Brink :      brink-at-escher.3dem.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:00:23 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Negative Scanners

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Hi,

We use flatbed scanners from either Perkin-Elmer or Zeiss. Both, however,
are fairly expensive, say well over 50 k$ :-(.
But, they deliver for that kind of money (of corse they'd have to ...).
What kind of scans are the users interested in? And, on the OD, most
scanners that I know of begin to run of headroom at 3 OD.
J.

--
Jaap Brink, Ph.D.
Biochemistry, One Baylor Plaza, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, TX 77030
Phone: (713)798-6989 -- Fax: (713)796-9438 -- Email: jbrink-at-bcm.tmc.edu
URL : http://ncmi.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu/~brink

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} I have some users who want to make high resolution scans of 4x5 TEM
} negatives. The 45 series scanners from Nikon, Polaroid, et al run
} US$8,000-9,000. However, I've been told that they are barely capable of
} 3.0 OD at 4"x5". The Imacon flatbed will deliver 3.9 at 4"x5", but it
} is about US$16,000.
} What are others using for scanning negatives?
}
} TIA,
} -- Glen MacDonald
} Virginia Merrill Bloedel Hearing Research Center
} Box 357923
} University of Washington
} Seattle, WA 98195-7923
} glenmac-at-u.washington.edu
} (206) 616-4156
} (206) 616-1828 fax
} The box said "Requires Windows95 or better". So I bought a Macintosh.
}





From: Thomas C. Isabell :      tc_isabell-at-fischione.com
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:41:14 -0700
Subject: Used Optical/Light Microscopes

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About a month ago I posted a request for information regarding resellers =
of used optical microscopes. Since then, I've gotten a number of =
requests to summarize the information I received. So, without further =
ado:

Websites:

LabX www.labx.com
Labequip www.labequip.com
Montana Microscope www.montanamicroscope.com
Conneaut Lake Scientific www.wwweb-pro.com/cls
Used Mechanical Equipment www.execpc.com/ume
Lehman Scientific www.lehmanscientific.com
Capovani Brothers www.capovani.com
Scientific Equipment Exchange www.sci-equip-ex.com
Bid Service www.bid-service.com

Plus, a web search of "used microscopes" using your favorite search =
engine will turn up a few others.

Phone Contacts:

Martin Microscope Co (864) 242-3424 or (864) 859-2688
Bob Martin
Mel Sobel 1-888-ALL-SCOPES or (516) 935-7794
Technical Instruments (415) 431-8231
Rick Staples=20
Bay Optical (415) 431-8711
Tom Henry
ARC Instruments (606) 498-1345
Phil Hutcheson

There's a ton of junk equipment out there, but after searching long and =
hard, we were able to come up with what we were looking for.

Many thanks again to all who responded to my original post for =
information!!!

Tom

Thomas C. Isabell, Ph.D.
Research Scientist
E.A. Fischione Instruments, Inc.
tc_isabell-at-fischione.com
webpage: www.fischione.com





From: Ritchie Sims :      r.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:35:10 GMT+1200
Subject: Vacuum Gauges

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Hi there

I have to buy a new vacuum gauge, (heads and controller), and my
short list is either Leybold or Balzers (having eliminated Edwards
because of their frequent model changes, which lead to "sorry, no
service now available for that model" after not many years).
Oh for the good old analogue-and-repairable-for-ever days!
I have no experience with either brand, anyone got any good or bad
news about either?

Confidentiality guaranteed for personal replies.

thanks

Ritchie

Ritchie Sims phone: 64 9 3737599 ext 7713
Department of Geology fax: 64 9 3737435
University of Auckland
Private Bag 92019
Auckland
New Zealand




From: Dr. Mark W. Lund :      lundm-at-physc3.byu.edu
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 00:05:11 MST/MDT
Subject: RE: Vacuum Gauges

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Hi John,

I haven't timed it for a file that size. An A4 page with two of my imag=
es
would be approx. 2MB and would print in about 2-3 mins at top resolution.
Routinely I print the greyscale images on a 600dpi laser and only use the
Epson for higher quality. The configuration of your computer will help =
to
a certain extent. I am lucky in that it is attached to my spare 200MHZ =
PC
so I don't have to sit and watch it.

Colin Reid
Electron Microscope Unit,
Trinity College Dublin,
Dublin 2,
Rep. of Ireland.
Tel: 353-1-6081820
Fax: 353-1-6770438
email: creid-at-tcd.ie

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From: Dr. Mark W. Lund :      lundm-at-physc3.byu.edu
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 00:05:11 MST/MDT
Subject: RE: Vacuum Gauges

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Hi there

I have to buy a new vacuum gauge, (heads and controller), and my
short list is either Leybold or Balzers (having eliminated Edwards
because of their frequent model changes, which lead to "sorry, no
service now available for that model" after not many years).
Oh for the good old analogue-and-repairable-for-ever days!
I have no experience with either brand, anyone got any good or bad
news about either?

Confidentiality guaranteed for personal replies.

thanks

Ritchie

Ritchie Sims phone: 64 9 3737599 ext 7713
Department of Geology fax: 64 9 3737435
University of Auckland
Private Bag 92019
Auckland
New Zealand




From: Weiland, Hasso :      Hasso.Weiland-at-alcoa.com
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 08:45:41 -0400
Subject: RE: Negative Scanners

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Glenn,

we decided on a different set-up: we purchased a MicroLumina camera with
a high frequency lightbox. We wanted to scan not only TEM negatives but
also X-ray films and a series of old 35 mm slides. Besides we are using
the set-up for macro-photography as well. The camera is mounted on a
photographic stand, which allows one to adapt the camera-film distance
always to have the full size negative/object in view and therefore the
full camera resolution on the object. The camera resolution is 3000x2600
pixels and sells for less the US$ 9k. Again, as the camera is adjusted
to the object size, this resolution is available for a TEM negative as
well as a 35 mm slide. The only drawback is each scan takes about 1-2
minutes as the camera is based on a line array.

Hasso Weiland
Alcoa Technical Center
Alcoa Center, PA 15069

724 337-3133 (phone)
724 337-2044 (Fax)
hasso.weiland-at-alcoa.com

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From: Thomas A Baginski :      tombg-at-bictom.usuf1.usuhs.mil
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 07:44:14 -0600
Subject: COLOR PRINTERS, compared, tested, utilization !

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We use all three, Codonics, Epson Stylus, and Fargo Primera Pro
printer. We are most happy with these printers in the order listed.
Quality of print is very important to us, but time is, too. The two
latter printers have taken upwards of 30 minutes to print many of
our requested TEM and Confocal images. The Codonics never takes
that long for tif, bmp, or postcript images. The Epson and Fargo
both require that you have specialized software like Adobe,for
example and drivers that will make their printer work. They print
only a limited image type. The Codonics has all the conversion
hardware/software built in and can be placed any where on the
network ! A tremendous feature for us. Since the entire University
can send prints to it, and they can use almost any format, bmp,
tif, gif, eps, ...ETC. with almost no further need to adjust their
image. Since we support 1000's of prints every year, and sometimes
1000 monthly, near grant writing time, we find the Codonics
indispensable. We find the 300 pixel per inch resolution image is
very similar to the 1200 dot per inch image you get off other
printers, but there is no pixelation when looking closely at the
image (if you started with a good image). The reproducibility is
astounding. The first of 20 images looks just like the last one.
And it takes about 20 minutes to do 20 images. None of the others
would do that for us. For example, although the Epson comes close,
it would takes us about 6 hours or more to do 20 images at high
resolution, so we did not even try to do that. The other problem,
is that there does not seem to be an easy way to send an image and
get 20 prints from the Epson or Fargo printers, a software problem I
guess. We can not have someone stand by and send a print every 30
minutes. Small things, but that costs us time.
We now use the Epson for fast-low-res images (at 300 dpi)
when needed since it has that capability and we can use plain paper.
But the low cost per print is still about 35 cents. The Codonics,
price per print has recently gone down for us, bulk buying, to
about $2.00 print. We are hoping to see improvements on this
possibility.
After an extensive survey about two years ago and after
multiple copies (over 800) we were overwhelming advised by research
faculty (99%) to purchase the Codonics. We are very happy with it,
and the service record is also outstanding. They have always found
a way to get us support QUICKLY whenever we needed it. Supplies
are readily available and are expected to be for a long time. KODAK
is the major supplier for their machines and for Codonics with the
Kodak engine. However, Codonics, does re-package the ribbon and
paper and supports their product 100%. Feel free to contact me
for a more detailed discussion if you wish. Technical Coordinator
for Microscopy, Tom Baginski, 301 295 5691 or
email:tombg-at-bictom.usuf1.usuhs.mil
DOD/USUHS/BIC, Bethesda, MD







From: LEONARD ZABLOW :      zablowl-at-cpmc3.cpmc.columbia.edu
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:05:16 -0500 EST
Subject: Re: Alps printers

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Glen,

We have an ALPS MD-2300 which does dye sub and microdry printing.
The dye sub technique produces images good enough for publication
but is quite slow, requiring nearly 3/4 hr for an 8"x10" print.
The standard microdry printing is fine for rapid display of CMYK
images if one uses their special paper. The printer is finicky about
other, less expensive paper, but can be gotten to work. I find their
monochrome black non-dithered half toning a little annoying even at
600 dpi, but usable.
Hope this helps.

Len
} Does
anyone have experience with the Alps dry-ink printers? I'm
} interested in the Epson 800 or 1520 printers to take the burden off of
} our Tek Phaser IIsdx. They are listed at 720 dpi, yet with less bleed
} they might rival higher dpi inkjets, and the ink is water resistant.
}
} TIA,
} -- Glen MacDonald
} Virginia Merrill Bloedel Hearing Research Center
} Box 357923
} University of Washington
} Seattle, WA 98195-7923
} glenmac-at-u.washington.edu
} (206) 616-4156
} (206) 616-1828 fax
} The box said "Requires Windows95 or better". So I bought a Macintosh.
}
}
Leonard Zablow
Howard Hughes Medical Institute
722 West 168 St.
New York, N.Y. 10032

Tel:(212)795-9673
Fax:(212)795-7997




From: beth-at-dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Beth Richardson)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 08:08:44 -0500
Subject: Re: TEM film holder for Beseler 45M

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Jon,
A few years ago I ordered a Beseler negative carrier #8343, 4x5 anti-newton
from Brandons, Inc. in Jacksonville, FL (800-874-5273). It has glass for
supporting the film. I use it for my TEM negatives. I think they special
ordered it for me.
I would also suggest searching the web for Beseler and try to buy it
directly from them.

best regards,
beth

**************************************
Beth Richardson
EM Lab Coordinator
Botany Department
University of Georgia
Athens, GA 30602

Phone - (706) 542-1790
FAX - (706) 542-1805
Email - beth-at-dogwood.botany.uga.edu
**************************************






From: Thomas A Baginski :      tombg-at-bictom.usuf1.usuhs.mil
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 98 04:09:34 -0400
Subject: COLOR PRINTERS, compared, tested, utilization !

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We use all three, Codonics, Epson Stylus, and Fargo Primera Pro
printer. We are most happy with these printers in the order listed.
Quality of print is very important to us, but time is, too. The two
latter printers have taken upwards of 30 minutes to print many of
our requested TEM and Confocal images. The Codonics never takes
that long for tif, bmp, or postcript images. The Epson and Fargo
both require that you have specialized software like Adobe,for
example and drivers that will make their printer work. They print
only a limited image type. The Codonics has all the conversion
hardware/software built in and can be placed any where on the
network ! A tremendous feature for us. Since the entire University
can send prints to it, and they can use almost any format, bmp,
tif, gif, eps, ...ETC. with almost no further need to adjust their
image. Since we support 1000's of prints every year, and sometimes
1000 monthly, near grant writing time, we find the Codonics
indispensable. We find the 300 pixel per inch resolution image is
very similar to the 1200 dot per inch image you get off other
printers, but there is no pixelation when looking closely at the
image (if you started with a good image). The reproducibility is
astounding. The first of 20 images looks just like the last one.
And it takes about 20 minutes to do 20 images. None of the others
would do that for us. For example, although the Epson comes close,
it would takes us about 6 hours or more to do 20 images at high
resolution, so we did not even try to do that. The other problem,
is that there does not seem to be an easy way to send an image and
get 20 prints from the Epson or Fargo printers, a software problem I
guess. We can not have someone stand by and send a print every 30
minutes. Small things, but that costs us time.
We now use the Epson for fast-low-res images (at 300 dpi)
when needed since it has that capability and we can use plain paper.
But the low cost per print is still about 35 cents. The Codonics,
price per print has recently gone down for us, bulk buying, to
about $2.00 print. We are hoping to see improvements on this
possibility.
After an extensive survey about two years ago and after
multiple copies (over 800) we were overwhelming advised by research
faculty (99%) to purchase the Codonics. We are very happy with it,
and the service record is also outstanding. They have always found
a way to get us support QUICKLY whenever we needed it. Supplies
are readily available and are expected to be for a long time. KODAK
is the major supplier for their machines and for Codonics with the
Kodak engine. However, Codonics, does re-package the ribbon and
paper and supports their product 100%. Feel free to contact me
for a more detailed discussion if you wish. Technical Coordinator
for Microscopy, Tom Baginski, 301 295 5691 or
email:tombg-at-bictom.usuf1.usuhs.mil
DOD/USUHS/BIC, Bethesda, MD





From: Microscopy Center :      emcenter-at-btny.purdue.edu
Date: 21 Apr 1998 08:30:38 -0500
Subject: Supplies for CHina

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Listserve members,
I will be traveling to P.R. of China in a few weeks and will, with my
husband, be visiting Biology Departments at a university in Beijing and a
university in Heifei where I will be meeting with microscopists. I would like
to bring along a few inexpensive items which may be difficult to get in China
for our hosts. One friend has already asked for double-sided scotch tape.
Any suggestions for other small items useful in microscopy labs would be
appreciated.
Please reply directly to me as I don't know if this would be of general
interest to the whole list.

Debby Sherman, manager Phone: 765-494-6666
Microscopy Center in Agriculture Fax: 765-494-5896
Purdue University E-mail: sherman-at-aux.btny.purdue.edu
W. Lafayette, IN 47907 or: emcenter-at-btny.purdue.edu





From: Jon McGovern :      jmcgover-at-cadvision.com
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 08:03:01 -0600
Subject: 4 X 5 negative scanners

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We currently use an older Leaf 45 film scanner for film format from 35mm to
4 x 5.
These scanners are often available from digital image equipment supply
houses such as B & H in New York (212) 444-5008 0r Graphtronix (612)
461-5151. Although I have never had dealings with these companies myself,
they seem to have good reputations in the digital imaging communities.
A 4 x 5 scan on our leaf produces a file size of ~82Mb. The dpi is 1200 and
the image is 6000 x 4740 pixels. These are for a landscape orientation. For
portrait, the figures are 1200 dpi, 4760 x 4740 pixels and a file size of
~67Mb.
The scanner accommodates a standard Beseler 4 x 5 negative carrier.
If anyone in the research community is interested, we will be glad to scan
a few negatives for experimental purposes. Just send the neg. along with
either a Zip or Jazz disk and we will send back some scanned files. Since
we do this for a commercial venture, please only academics or research
inquiries.
If you want a commercial price please contact us off of this list server at
our e-mail.

Jon McGovern
J. P. McGovern and Associates
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From: Woody.N.White-at-mcdermott.com
Date: 4/20/98 11:35 PM
Subject: Vacuum Gauges

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It would be helpful to know what type of gauge and vacuum range
you are considering. Also are controller outputs required?

Woody White McDermott Technology, Inc.


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Hi there

I have to buy a new vacuum gauge, (heads and controller), and my
short list is either Leybold or Balzers (having eliminated Edwards
because of their frequent model changes, which lead to "sorry, no
service now available for that model" after not many years).
Oh for the good old analogue-and-repairable-for-ever days!
I have no experience with either brand, anyone got any good or bad
news about either?

Confidentiality guaranteed for personal replies.

thanks

Ritchie

Ritchie Sims phone: 64 9 3737599 ext 7713
Department of Geology fax: 64 9 3737435
University of Auckland
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From: Mary Mager :      mager-at-interchg.ubc.ca
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:50:18 -0700
Subject: Re: TEM film holder for Beseler 45M

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Dear Jonathan,
There is a special negative holder for Polaroid 4" X 5" negatives, made by
Beseler. We use it for the TEM negatives, turned sideways. When the original
broke, we purchased a new one from our local photography store. The other
one we have looks homemade, before my time, which has a hinged holder
consisting of two metal plates that fits the Beseler, with two glass plates
held in cutouts. The negative is sandwiched between the glass plates. It
holds up to 4" X 5". The disadvantages is that you must make sure your
negative and 4 sides of glass are clean.
You wrote:
} Hi:
}
} We inherited a Beseler 45M enlarger, but no negative holder for 3 1/4" x 4"
} TEM film.
}
} We use a crude, homemade holder now. A real one would be nice. Anyone have
} an extra or know where I can get one?
}
} Thanks
}
} Jonathan Krupp
} Microscopy and Imaging Lab
} University of California
} Santa Cruz, CA 95064
} (408) 459-2477
} FAX (408) 429-0146
} jmkrupp-at-cats.ucsc.edu
}
Regards,
Mary
Mary Mager
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From: Pam Neill :      pneill-at-lifecell.com
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 12:54:46 -0500
Subject: Reference

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I am looking for information to procure proceedings from the Pfefferkorn
Conferences. The 1983 proceedings was published by Scanning Electron
Microscopy, Inc. Does anyone have information on these proceedings?




From: Ritchie Sims :      r.sims-at-auckland.ac.nz
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:53:18 GMT+1200
Subject: Re: Vacuum Gauges

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Hello

Does anyone from Edwards High Vacuum USA read this list? If so, please
contact me.
Alternatively, does anyone have an email address for them?

thanks

Ritchie

Ritchie Sims phone: 64 9 3737599 ext 7713
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From: ROBERT WILLIS :      WILLIS.ROBERT-at-EPAMAIL.EPA.GOV
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:20:21 -0600
Subject: request for volcanic ash samples

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Greetings Microscopists,

I am interested in comparing volcanic ash from different sources. If you
have ash samples that you would be willing to part with, please email me
directly. Thank you!

Bob Willis
ManTech Environmental Technology, Inc.
willis.robert-at-epamail.epa.gov






From: Wolfgang Muss :      W.Muss-at-lkasbg.gv.at
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:24:26 +-200
Subject: AW: Vacuum Gauges TEM Hardware: vacuum SEM/TEM

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Sir, dear Ritchie,

if you got internet communication, try:

http://www.edwards.boc.com/custserv/psr.htm


you will find there representatives (addresses and phone/e-mailnumbers)


Another www-page I could offer to you is:


http://www.pfeiffer-vacuum.de=20

(German branch of PFEIFFER VACUUM TECHNOLOGIES, perhaps or certainly you =
will find on their web-page connections to representatives in your area)

hope this helps,
best of luck


Wolfgang MUSS

Dr. Wolfgang MUSS
Salzburg General Hospital (LKA)
Department of Anatomical Pathology,=20
EM-Laboratory
Muellner Hauptstrasse 48
A-5020 SALZBURG
AUSTRIA/Europe

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Hello

Does anyone from Edwards High Vacuum USA read this list? If so, please=20
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Alternatively, does anyone have an email address for them?

thanks

Ritchie

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From: rschoonh-at-sph.unc.edu (Robert Schoonhoven)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:34:15 -0400
Subject: Microscope parts wanted

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Help!

I have a Leitz Laborlux D microscope at home and I'm trying to find a 'C' mount
and a 2.5 or 3.3X photoeyepiece for it. If anyone has thes and is willing to
part with them I'd like to buy them from you. Yes, I'm aware that I could
probably get them from Leica but dollers (mine) are a concern.

TIA

regards,
Bob
Robert Schoonhoven
Laboratory of Molecular Carcinogenesis and Mutagenesis
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University of North Carolina
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From: Winnie Westbrook :      ewwestbr-at-hsc.vcu.edu
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:11:24 -0700
Subject: ADDRESS IS CORRECT

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This response is to an inquiry concerning a particular high resolution
sputter coater and a reply by its first user, Mel Dickson. That posting is a
few days old but requires a response and I sought and have included here
comment from EMITECH (UK).
There is nothing wrong with Mel's comments, except that without further
discussion the topic is treated one-sidedly. Clearly, the Xenosput works
well, but its suitable for very small samples only; its expensive to
purchase and the Xenon gas which is heavier than argon and hence more
efficient, is also rather expensive to buy. There is an amazing range of
coating equipment on the market, all with their particular pros and cons.

"High resolution SEM has created a requirement for high resolution
coating. Typically chromium is now used as the target material, primarily
because chromium has a much finer grain size than gold. It also does not
readily form coagulated islands, as is the case with gold and that is the
limiting factor of conventional gold sputter coatings in high resolution
SEM.

However, for Cr sputtering the vacuum system must be kept clean and the
energy levels for sputtering increased to allow sputter cleaning of the
target prior to sputtering.
This has resulted in a new generation of sputter coaters like our Emitech K
Series, which includes the K575 and the K675. The K575 can readily coat
evenly an area of 76mm diameter, and the K675 which was designed
specifically for the semi conductor market's 203mm wafers, can coat up to
253mm diameter.
Such instruments are turbo pumped and fully automatic and employ a flushing
and cleaning protocol to ensure a clean vacuum. They may also have a shutter
assembly to protect the specimen during the sputter clean operation. This
results in very good quality and repeatable deposition. As well as chromium
targets other materials such as platinum should be available. Other
desirable features of such instruments are a fully automatic control, with
argon as process gas and nitrogen as purge gas.
David Robinson, EMITECH Ltd"

Please note that ProSciTech has an interest in EMITECH equipment, since we
distribute this equipment, however, we are only a regional distributor for
this company (Australia, NZ, parts of SE Asia). Considering our profile in
the home market, I don't see any commercial advantage from posting this item
here. I just like to contribute to this topic which deserves fuller
treatment.
Jim Darley

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The address is correct. Thanks for adding me to the list.




From: Sheila St Amour :      Sheila_StAmour-at-med.unc.edu
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:26:42 -0400
Subject: ADDRESS IS CORRECT

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Hello:
We are using MagOp Disks on Power Macs to archive images in our
lab, and I am interested in knowing if anyone has found a Disk
Repair Program which repairs or retrieves files from the
occasional MagOp disk which starts to have problems.

Thanks,

Sheila St. Amour
Cell Biology and Anatomy
UNC






From: Kirk J C Czymmek :      kirk-at-udel.edu
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:48:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Microscopy Facility Revenue

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Dear Collegues,

I need information to educate the administration on how close to "cost
neutrality" a microscopy facility can get. I currently supervise a
facility with a part-time employee to assist in repairs. Much of the
equipment is 20-25 years old and is constantly breaking down. I am the
sole revenue generater with a few students who have been trained to use
the microscope and have beamtime hours. Within a year or so of operation
the facility went from generating $0.00 in revenue to ~$60K maybe
70K/year. This doesn't pay all the bills of an EM Facility with 2 TEMs and
an SEM as well. My question is, is their any facility that is COMPLETELY
cost neutral with revenue only for service work provided? Are the numbers
I describe for a medium sized University reasonable? I would greatly
appreciate any input. If their is a University that spends only what they
bring in for doing samples in a multi-user environment please contact me I
be happy to know how you did this.

Best Regards,

Kirk J. Czymmek, Ph.D.
Biological Electron Microscopy Facility
University of Delaware
Newark, DE 19716
kirk-at-udel.edu






From: Winnie Westbrook :      ewwestbr-at-hsc.vcu.edu
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 14:50:26 -0600
Subject: COLLECTING A BUFFY COAT FOR TEM

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Hi There,
Looking for a good technique for making a pellet of buffy coat from
normal blood. Would appreciate any help. Thanks.

Winnie






From: roy-at-bayou.uh.edu (Roy Christoffersen)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 15:28:28 -0600
Subject: FEG-TEM:measuring energy spread w/o PEELS

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We would be interested in suggestions and collective experience with
measuring the energy spread of a FEG-TEM by a method other than using a
PEELS spectrometer, i.e. by some type of imaging/diffraction analysis
technique. We have been using the standard method of measuring the
contrast-transfer envelope and associated information limit by
diffractogram analysis of amorphous Ge. However, after some work the
accuracy of this method for resolving differences in energy spread even as
large as 100% is not clear to us. Assessing the limits of the envelope
function by seeing how well the microscope passes various fringe spacing in
the 1.2 to 0.9 A range (i.e. out on the limits of the envelope function)
seems reasonable, but what are the pitfalls? Other methods using beam tilt
effects on diffractograms exist in the literature but remain to be checked
out.

Input from you FEG-TEM artists out there would be appreciated.

Roy Christoffersen
Materials Science Research
and Engineering Center
University of Houston
3201 Cullen
Houston, TX 77204-5932
roy-at-bayou.uh.edu
(713) 743-8273
FAX: (713) 743-2787






From: LouAnn Miller :      lamiller-at-uiuc.edu
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:32:34 -0600
Subject: Re: Buffy coat

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This may be an embed by hand job:


We have had good sucess from
1. Taking an EDTA tube of blood and spin it down
2. Take a long nosed pipet and collect the buffy coat area, roughly.
3. Take a Wintrobe tube ( tall skinny tube used in hematology) ,
place rough buffy coat in this tube)
4. Spin down the wintrobe tube.
5. Remove supernant, then collect Buffy coat with a thin glass pipet.
6. Layer gently in bottom of a vial of Karnovsky's and let set
20-30 min.


* At this point it should look like a fat miniture snake at the bottom of
the vial.

7. Process gently through the rest of the EM procedure.
__ should the buffy coat break up, place in ependorf tube and
gently spin
before each change in a microcentrifuge tube, low speed.

8. If the buffy coat is intact, by embedding time, cut with razor
and seperate
among embedding mold/capsules.

___ If the buffy coat is not intact, place in very small beam
capsules,
and put as concntrated of drops of samples as possible into the
beam capsules.

__ Fill, close, and place in 1.5 ml ependorfs and spin in the
microcentrifuge for
15-20 minutes at moderate speed. Polymerize as is in the
capsule/ependorf assembly.
At some point after fairly hard, razor off the eppendorf for
better polymerization.



Hope this helps, just one way to try,

Lou Ann





Winnie Wrote:
Hi There,
Looking for a good technique for making a pellet of buffy coat from
normal blood. Would appreciate any help. Thanks.

Winnie

***************************************-at-redfoot
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Center for Microscopy & Imaging
College of Veterinary Medicine
Dept. of Veterinary Biosciences
University of Illinois
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2001 S Lincoln Ave.
Urbana, Illinois 61802

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From: Vetrano, John S :      john.vetrano-at-pnl.gov
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 15:26:38 -0700
Subject: WTB: Heating stage for JEOL 2000 TEM

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Hi all;

We are interested in buying a single- or double-tilt heating stage that =
will fit
a JEOL 2000 side-entry goniometer. I believe this goniometer is also =
shared
with the 1200, 200 and perhaps even their 100 series microscopes. I'm =
not sure
about the 4000. We would require an attainable temperature of 600=B0C. =
At this
time we are looking at buying a used stage, and probably won't have the =
money to
buy new. If you have a stage that fits this description and would =
consider
selling it, please contact me at the address below (email, snail mail, =
phone or
fax). =20

Thanks,

JSV
***************************
John S. Vetrano
Sr. Research Scientist
Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
MSIN P8-16
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Richland, WA 99352
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Email: mailto:john.vetrano-at-pnl.gov




From: hoopea01-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:24:26 -0600
Subject: 2-methyl butane

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Could someone tell me what exactly is the role of 2-methyl butane when used in
snap freezing tissue in liquid nitrogen? I appreciate any insight ...

Andrea Hooper
Dept of Pathology
NYU Medical Center






From: loudy.d-at-pg.com
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:24:59 -0600
Subject: cold water fish gelatin

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Does anyone know starting recipes for using cold water fish (teleost) gelatin
as a blocking agent for immunocytochemistry? Does it work? Any pitfalls?
We have a particularly sticky primary with lots of small punctate background
appearing..controls with secondary alone are clean...presently using 0.5% BSA
with 1% goat serum as block 1hr r.t....its not stopping it????






From: Dr. Mark W. Lund :      lundm-at-acousb.byu.edu
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:44:18 MST/MDT
Subject: Beam interaction software?

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I am looking for software that can model the
energy deposited by the electron beam in a
thin film or bulk sample. Do any of the
Monte Carlo codes do this?

Best regards
mark





From: Jan L.M. Leunissen :      leunissen-at-aurion.nl
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:19:42 +0200
Subject: Re: cold water fish gelatin

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I suspect that your punctate signal, when it is background indeed, may come
from aggregated primary antibody molecules. In that case using more or
different additives to the blocking buffer or incubation buffer will not be
very helpful in improving the signal-to-noise ratio. Spinning down the
antibody solution (stock, but preferably the diluted antibody) at high
speed will help to get rid of aggregates. I think this is the easiest thing
to try to begin with.
Another explanation might be that there are indeed sticky sites in your
specimen. But then one would expect different antibodies from the same
animal source to give similar results. I don't know whether that is the
case. If so, then fine tuning the blocking and incubation buffer
composition is the way to a solution. You may find more info on our web
site regarding background at http://www.aurion.nl, and in a previous series
of messages to this Listserver sent in the first week of April.

Good luck,

Jan

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From: James Ito :      james.ito-at-dial.pipex.com
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:29:17 +0100
Subject: Re: COLLECTING A BUFFY COAT FOR TEM

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We do this occasionally in my lab.

We spin the anti-coagulated blood in a narrow test tube, then carefully
remove as much as possible of the plasma without disturbing the buffy
coat. Buffered 2% Glutaraldehyde is then very gently layered on top and
the tube left to stand in the fridge for about a couple of hours. This
gives a buffy coat which is embedded in solid plasma and can be removed
from the tube with the help of a thin wooden stick or similar. The
resultant disc can then be trimmed and the pieces processed to resin as
you would for normal tissue. If you embed in flat moulds your specimen
will have orientated layers of plasma, platelets, white cells and red
cells.

It's a simple and effective technique, with only one centrigugation to
give you a sample which is easily handled. The only downside is that
some drugs (e.g. aspirin, I believe) may inhibit the action of
glutaraldehyde on the plasma and prevent the conversion of the plasma
to a solid.


James Ito
Pathology Department
Royal Hospital for Sick Children
Yorkhill
Glasgow
Scotland.
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} From: Winnie Westbrook {ewwestbr-at-hsc.vcu.edu}
} To: Microscopy-at-Sparc5.Microscopy.Com
} Subject: COLLECTING A BUFFY COAT FOR TEM
} Date: 22 April 1998 21:50
}
} Hi There,
} Looking for a good technique for making a pellet of buffy coat from
} normal blood. Would appreciate any help. Thanks.
}
} Winnie
}




From: Jim Darley :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 18:28:08 +1000
Subject: Re: Microscopy Facility Revenue

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Its easy - if you have an administrator who does not just care about
balancing the budget and finds the EM Manager easier to push about than some
professor who presides over a poorly performing department.
Your EM Unit costs the university real money and ought to be shut down if
you supply nothing much in return. I trust that the credit side of your
ledger shows that you have sufficient and happy users. In a university they
would be mostly grad and some undergrad students and they require many
services within an EM facility. Since the university collects money for
these students, the unit should get notional or real credit. The "user pays"
arguement is poor economics when the script dictates: Collect all the
students funding and distribute this to administration, library and
departments but give no credits to the electron microscope unit. Too often
the EM user has already paid but nothing has gone to the EM Unit and the
administrator is in fact looking for a second payment from the user. Kirk,
our correspondent's problem is that few administrators are interested in
good governance. Most just want to balance the budget along the path of
least resistance.
Been there, done that, I commiserate.
Cheers
Jim Darley

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} Dear Collegues,
} I need information to educate the administration on how close to "cost
} neutrality" a microscopy facility can get. I currently supervise a
} facility with a part-time employee to assist in repairs. Much of the
} equipment is 20-25 years old and is constantly breaking down. I am the
} sole revenue generater with a few students who have been trained to use
} the microscope and have beamtime hours. Within a year or so of operation
} the facility went from generating $0.00 in revenue to ~$60K maybe
} 70K/year. This doesn't pay all the bills of an EM Facility with 2 TEMs and
} an SEM as well. My question is, is their any facility that is COMPLETELY
} cost neutral with revenue only for service work provided? Are the numbers
} I describe for a medium sized University reasonable? I would greatly
} appreciate any input. If their is a University that spends only what they
} bring in for doing samples in a multi-user environment please contact me I
} be happy to know how you did this.
}
} Best Regards,
}
} Kirk J. Czymmek, Ph.D.
} Biological Electron Microscopy Facility
} University of Delaware
} Newark, DE 19716
} kirk-at-udel.edu
}
}
}





From: Rod Dilley :      Rod.Dilley-at-alice.baker.edu.au
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 20:58:12 +0000
Subject: Digitising tablet and morphometry software

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Does anybody have a spare puck (or 2) for a Complot
Series 7000 Digitizer (Houston Instruments). After two buyouts of
the original company the current manufacturer is not able to help out
with this 10 year old (at least) tablet.

Alternately, we are in need of a replacement for the 24"
x 36" digitising tablet we were using for measuring area and
perimeter (via DOS software package) from projected histological
images. We have tried to replace this system with a
videomicroscope and image analysis package but cannot get a system to
work as well, or as cheaply. Does anybody have a recommendation
for tablets of this size, or perhaps 18x24, and some simple software
(PC) to get the data we need? Our image analysis software (Optimas)
will probably do it, but is a bit of overkill and I figure there must
be something simple out there somewhere.

Thanks in advance
---------------------------------------------
Rod Dilley
Baker Medical Research Institute
PO Box 348, Prahran 3181, Victoria, AUSTRALIA
fax: +613 9521 1362
email: rod.dilley-at-baker.edu.au
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From: RAHBARI, RAMIN :      RAMIN.RAHBARI-at-wl.com
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:38:44 -0400
Subject: RE: cold water fish gelatin

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It works well, alone or in conjunction with serum, depending on the
application and the nature of the secondaries. Start with a 2% (total
protein) solution.

The only drawback is the thick nature of the stock gel. You will have
to weight it.

good luck

Ramin Rahbari
Tel. 734-622-3383


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} Does anyone know starting recipes for using cold water fish (teleost)
} gelatin
} as a blocking agent for immunocytochemistry? Does it work? Any
} pitfalls?
} We have a particularly sticky primary with lots of small punctate
} background
} appearing..controls with secondary alone are clean...presently using
} 0.5% BSA
} with 1% goat serum as block 1hr r.t....its not stopping it????
}




From: Kirk J C Czymmek :      kirk-at-udel.edu
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:26:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Microscopy Facility Revenue

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To all who have thus far replied and requested feedback regarding my query
about microscopy facility revenue. I can't afford to FAX all the copies
that I have received at this point but will mail them to all who have
asked once they are compiled.

I will also provide a synopsis to submit to the listserver when I have had
the chance to go through all the responses.

Incidently, all costs associated with the facility (salaries, repairs,
supplies, incidentals) must be recovered via users fees according to the
decree. Is salaries alone were covered, I could actually have enough money
to repair or replace some of my more unreliable equipment.

Best Regards,

Kirk J. Czymmek
Biological Electron Microscopy Facility
University of Delaware
Newark, DE 19716
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From: Brian McIntyre :      mcintyre-at-optics.rochester.edu
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:50:19 -0400
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}
} Dear Collegues,
}
} I need information to educate the administration on how close to "cost
} neutrality" a microscopy facility can get. I currently supervise a
} facility with a part-time employee to assist in repairs. Much of the
} equipment is 20-25 years old and is constantly breaking down. I am the
} sole revenue generater with a few students who have been trained to use
} the microscope and have beamtime hours. Within a year or so of operation
} the facility went from generating $0.00 in revenue to ~$60K maybe
} 70K/year. This doesn't pay all the bills of an EM Facility with 2 TEMs and
} an SEM as well. My question is, is their any facility that is COMPLETELY
} cost neutral with revenue only for service work provided? Are the numbers
} I describe for a medium sized University reasonable? I would greatly
} appreciate any input. If their is a University that spends only what they
} bring in for doing samples in a multi-user environment please contact me I
} be happy to know how you did this.
}
} Best Regards,
}
} Kirk J. Czymmek, Ph.D.


This is what I've been faced with for the last four years. I was able to
work out a deal with the enginnering school to fund a portion of my
expenses (diminishing to ~$50K/year) for classroom activities (lecture/lab
for a variety of courses) with the remainder of the roughly $120K budget
made up by direct charge-back to sponsored projects. I've been able to
make it so far (barely), but my biggest problem is equipment replacement
(which we all know is very expensive!). I think I'm currently losing some
high end work to other installations with better equipment, but I hope to
upgrade soon.

For reference I have these income components for the lab:
Educational mission
Sponsored project charge-back
Unsponsored projects (gets taken from educational mission funds)
Off campus "clients"

I'd like to secure some "harder" monies but those days are all but gone.

Let me know if you can come up with a better way...

Brian

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From: John Grazul :      grazul-at-BIOLOGY.RUTGERS.EDU
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:13:34 EDT
Subject: Philips 300 For Sale!

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Scope-ateers,

I have a Philips 300 that I need to sell. She has been my teaching
scope for ten years but non-the-less well cared for. It has the DP
and backing tank up grade as well as a plethora of spare parts.

No reasonable offer will be refused... the esteemed Dr. Mark
Farmer from the University of Georgia finished up his thesis work
with this instrument, so just think of its historical value alone!

The instrument is located in the Electron Imaging Facility at
Rutgers University. Please contact either through E-mail or phone
{732-445-5308 est}

Wet, dreary, traffic, strange smells, thats life in the Garden
State.



John Grazul
Rutgers University
Electron Imaging Facility




From: rschoonh-at-sph.unc.edu (Robert Schoonhoven)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:00:03 -0400
Subject: Re: 2-methyl butane

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Andrea,

The 2-methyl butane is actally the cryogen (freezing agent)and the LN2 is what
is used to bring it down the the proper temperature. The reason that agents
like 2-methyl butane, propane, ethane and freons etc. are used is that they have
a higher boiling point than LN2 (-196 oC). LN2's low boiling point creats a
vapor barrier (Leidenfrost phenomena) to form around tissues that are immersed
directly into it which prevents the rapid conduction of heat from the tissue to
the cryogen. The best cryogens have high boiling points and and low freezing
points.

hope that is the answer to you question

-- Begin original message --
}
} Could someone tell me what exactly is the role of 2-methyl butane when used
} in
} snap freezing tissue in liquid nitrogen? I appreciate any insight ...
}
} Andrea Hooper
} Dept of Pathology
} NYU Medical Center

-- End original message --


regards,
Bob
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From: Tom Reese :      treese-at-mbl.edu
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:36:40 -0400
Subject: ICC on glass-background

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We are doing ICC of unfixed cell bits (synaptic densities) stuck to glass.
In spite of blocking with bacitracin and BSA (after sticking the bits to
glass freshly cleaned with conc nitric acid), there is a scattering of
colloidal gold on the glass (but virtually no stuck gold with the
seconday/gold conjugate alone). I am wondering if anyone has come across a
blocking or glass cleaning regime that can be applied after sticking the
cell bits to the glass that will inhibit the primary antibody from sticking
to the glass and keep background under control. Many thanks....Tom Reese






From: wamann2-at-METALMAT.UFRJ.BR
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:31:04 EST3BRA
Subject: repost bibliography

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A few hours after posting this last week we had a major power failure
and our server was out many days. I have had some complaints of
unavailability, and repost. Please excuse any inconvenience.
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Fellow list members,
BibMic - A bibliography of books relating to Materials Microscopy,
previously published on paper in Materials Characterization
36(1996)105 is now available on the net at
http://bibmic.metalmat.ufrj.br
It lists over 1000 books, and is searchable by author, title and
keywords.
Hope you find it useful
Prof. Walter A. Mannheimer
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Vox (55 21) 590-0579 Fax (55 21) 290-6626
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From: Larry Ackerman :      mishot-at-itsa.ucsf.edu
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:35:50 -0700
Subject: negative sleeves

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I have lost track of the vendor for my favorite 3 1/4 X 4 1/4 negatives
sleeves. The package has the name RPS, catalogue # S-00650, Made in Japan,
Plastine Film Preservers, Acid Free. I would appreciate learning who
distributes these. I am not interested in any of the other brands or types.
Thank you.




From: Caroline Schooley :      schooley-at-mcn.org
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:33:27 -0800
Subject: Re: 2-methyl butane

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}
} Could someone tell me what exactly is the role of 2-methyl butane when used in
} snap freezing tissue in liquid nitrogen? I appreciate any insight ...
}
} Andrea -

I presume you're talking about plunge freezing. If you do this directly
into liquid N2, the N boils, producing a layer of gaseous N around the
tissue. That's a good insulator, so you get slow freezing. So you use an
intermediate coolant that will stay liquid up to ~-80, for rapid heat
transfer. When I was still in the lab (I'm retired) we used Freon 22, which
is no longer permitted, or propane, which explodes if you're careless.

Caroline Schooley
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From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 13:31:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Negative Scanners

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Dear Henk,
}
} I believe that TEM film has a density range of about 2.8-2.9. If this is
} true, any scanner with a range of over 3 should work.
}
This is true for most EM images; however, ED patterns can have
higher OD's. For quantitating ED intensities it is better to have as
great a dynamic range as possible.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




From: Greg Erdos :      gwe-at-biotech.ufl.edu
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:25:58 -0400
Subject: Bacterial atlas

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Does anyone know of a book or a web site that is essentially an atlas of
bacterial ultrastructure.
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From: Gib Ahlstrand :      giba-at-puccini.crl.umn.edu
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:09:19 -0500
Subject: Re: negative sleeves

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Responding to the message of {3.0.2.32.19980423103550.00701d5c-at-itsa.ucsf.edu}
from Larry Ackerman {mishot-at-itsa.ucsf.edu} :
} }
} I have lost track of the vendor for my favorite 3 1/4 X 4 1/4 negatives
} sleeves. The package has the name RPS, catalogue # S-00650, Made in Japan,
} Plastine Film Preservers, Acid Free. I would appreciate learning who
} distributes these. I am not interested in any of the other brands or types.
} Thank you.


Larry, RPS (Reeves Photo Sales, Inc.) is at 9000 Sovereign Row, Dallas, Texas
75247, as of 3-4 years ago. I don't have their phone number. They also make
really nice 35mm negative jackets.

Good Luck,

Gib


Gib Ahlstrand, Minnesota Micoscopy Society Newsletter Editor
Electron Optical Facility, University of Minnesota, Dept. Plant Pathology
495 Borlaug Hall, St. Paul, MN. USA. 55108 (612)625-8249
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From: Tom Phillips :      tphillips-at-biosci.mbp.missouri.edu
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 15:52:29 -0500
Subject: LM/TEM of cell culture inserts

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We are looking at some cells grown on Falcon cell culture inserts
(essentially polyethylene terephthalate membrane filters). We fixed and
osmicated, embeded in an epon-like epoxy resin. When we cut 0.5 um thick
semi-thin sections, they wrinkle up something fierce due to the membrane.
This makes it impossible to get a good LM photo. Anybody have any tricks?
Falcon's tech bulletin was not very informative.

Thomas E. Phillips, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Biological Sciences
Director, Molecular Cytology Core Facility

3 Tucker Hall
Division of Biological Sciences
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211
(573)-882-4712 (voice)
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From: wise-at-vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:42:51 -0600 (CST)
Subject: ZAF, Proza or Bence-Albee?

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To all,

We are planning on conducting some elemental analyses of 400-year-old glass
beads. Would ZAF, Proza or Bence-Albee be the preferred correction method?
We have a Noran Voyager with v2.7 software.

TIA

Bob Wise

Dr. Robert R. Wise
Department of Biology and Microbiology
University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
Oshkosh, WI 54901

(920) 424-3404 tel
(920) 424-1101 fax
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From: Sara Miller :      saram-at-acpub.duke.edu
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 21:03:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: COLLECTING A BUFFY COAT FOR TEM

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This centrifugation/fixation works. We do this then cut the slender tube
with a razor blade above and below the buffy coat (on a piece of
Parafilm), making a short log with open ends. Then with a paper clip or
applicator stick (depending on the diameter of the tube) we push out the
packed buffy coat. If it tends to fall apart, we then encase it in 1%
molten agar to keep it together. (You can encase it without washing out
the glut, but don't fix the agar-encased pellet in glut of the other
solutions won't infiltrate properly. If it sticks together, you can skip
the agar. We then process the pellet or encased cells as a piece of tissue.


S Miller

On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, James Ito wrote:

} Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:29:17 +0100
} From: James Ito {james.ito-at-dial.pipex.com}
} To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com,
} Winnie Westbrook {ewwestbr-at-hsc.vcu.edu}
} Subject: Re: COLLECTING A BUFFY COAT FOR TEM
}
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} We do this occasionally in my lab.
}
} We spin the anti-coagulated blood in a narrow test tube, then carefully
} remove as much as possible of the plasma without disturbing the buffy
} coat. Buffered 2% Glutaraldehyde is then very gently layered on top and
} the tube left to stand in the fridge for about a couple of hours. This
} gives a buffy coat which is embedded in solid plasma and can be removed
} from the tube with the help of a thin wooden stick or similar. The
} resultant disc can then be trimmed and the pieces processed to resin as
} you would for normal tissue. If you embed in flat moulds your specimen
} will have orientated layers of plasma, platelets, white cells and red
} cells.
}
} It's a simple and effective technique, with only one centrigugation to
} give you a sample which is easily handled. The only downside is that
} some drugs (e.g. aspirin, I believe) may inhibit the action of
} glutaraldehyde on the plasma and prevent the conversion of the plasma
} to a solid.
}
}
} James Ito
} Pathology Department
} Royal Hospital for Sick Children
} Yorkhill
} Glasgow
} Scotland.
} ----------
} } From: Winnie Westbrook {ewwestbr-at-hsc.vcu.edu}
} } To: Microscopy-at-Sparc5.Microscopy.Com
} } Subject: COLLECTING A BUFFY COAT FOR TEM
} } Date: 22 April 1998 21:50
} }
} } Hi There,
} } Looking for a good technique for making a pellet of buffy coat from
} } normal blood. Would appreciate any help. Thanks.
} }
} } Winnie
} }
}
}

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From: Robert H. Olley :      R.H.Olley-at-reading.ac.uk
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:24:12 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Re: 2-methyl butane

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On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 hoopea01-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu wrote:

}
} Could someone tell me what exactly is the role of 2-methyl butane when
} used in snap freezing tissue in liquid nitrogen? I appreciate any
} insight ...
}

Replies received so far are absolutely correct and on the nail. So I'm
simply adding a couple of details for the general readers ...

(1) Being old fashioned, I still call 2-methyl butane ISOPENTANE, which
might help if you're doing a literature search;

(2) If you have things that don't like being dunked in a hydrocarbon
(rubbers and some plastics) it is possible to get quite powerful cooling
by using a roughly equal mixture of acetone and methanol, which goes down
to at least -110^C and has a higher boiling point than the isopentane.
The b.p. of isopentane is twenty-something, which would make it hard to
store in Arizona and similar places warmer than the UK.

Mixtures naturally have lower freezing points than the pure solvents,
which is the principle of Dowtherm, an industrial heat transfer fluid
which is mixture of Naphthalene and Diphenyl Ether.


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From: Jan L.M. Leunissen :      leunissen-at-aurion.nl
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:38:13 +0200
Subject: Re: ICC on glass-background

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Dear Tom,

Your blocking sems to be fine since gold conjugates do not stick. Have you
tried to do the complete incubation on glass without cell bits on the
surface? If you get the same background problem, you may have to purify or
further dilute the primary. Are you using additives to the incubation
buffer for the primary or only for the secondary?
If there is no background on glass without cell bits, could it be that
antigen leaks from the unfixed material?

Regards, Jan

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From: Frank Thomas :      thomasf-at-AGC.BIO.NS.CA
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:31:51 -0300
Subject: Re: ZAF, Proza or Bence-Albee?

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} From: wise-at-vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
} To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com
} Subject: ZAF, Proza or Bence-Albee?
} Date: April 23, 1998 7:42 PM
}
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} To all,
}
} We are planning on conducting some elemental analyses of 400-year-old
glass
} beads. Would ZAF, Proza or Bence-Albee be the preferred correction
method?
} We have a Noran Voyager with v2.7 software.
}
} TIA
}
} Bob Wise
}
} Dr. Robert R. Wise
} Department of Biology and Microbiology
} University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
} Oshkosh, WI 54901
}
} (920) 424-3404 tel
} (920) 424-1101 fax
} wise-at-uwosh.edu
} www.uwosh.edu/departments/biology/wise/wise.html
}
} I understand Bence-Albee is the best way to go for minerals, and glass
(old or not) is essentially a mineral, so there you go.





From: Jim Darley :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:43:26 +1000
Subject: Re: 2-methyl butane/cryoagents

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Quite right, but now the discussion goes to: Which is the better cryoagent
and that was a topic here a few months ago.
Propane gas liquefied by cooling is a much, much better cryo-agent than is
isopentane. Its easy to store in a lab a small gas cylinder with a blunt
needle on a bit of tubing as the outlet. With little gas flow rub the needle
over the small metal cup that is cooled by liq N2. Soon you will have a
couple of ml of liquid propane.
Do this in a fumehood, which is a good idea when using solvents too.
Jim Darley

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}
} On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 hoopea01-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu wrote:
}
} }
} } Could someone tell me what exactly is the role of 2-methyl butane when
} } used in snap freezing tissue in liquid nitrogen? I appreciate any
} } insight ...
} }
}
} Replies received so far are absolutely correct and on the nail. So I'm
} simply adding a couple of details for the general readers ...
}
} (1) Being old fashioned, I still call 2-methyl butane ISOPENTANE, which
} might help if you're doing a literature search;
}
} (2) If you have things that don't like being dunked in a hydrocarbon
} (rubbers and some plastics) it is possible to get quite powerful cooling
} by using a roughly equal mixture of acetone and methanol, which goes down
} to at least -110^C and has a higher boiling point than the isopentane.
} The b.p. of isopentane is twenty-something, which would make it hard to
} store in Arizona and similar places warmer than the UK.
}
} Mixtures naturally have lower freezing points than the pure solvents,
} which is the principle of Dowtherm, an industrial heat transfer fluid
} which is mixture of Naphthalene and Diphenyl Ether.
}
}
} +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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} | J.J.Thomson Physical Laboratory {direct line +44 (0) 118 9318572 |
} | University of Reading {University internal extension 7867 |
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}
}
}





From: Rick L Vaughn (Ricky L Vaughn) :      RLVAUGHN-at-MAIL.UNMC.EDU
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:04:11 -0500
Subject: LM/TEM of cell culture inserts -Reply

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Tom
I have had similar problems with membrane filters of all kinds. I
assume its due tho the differences in compression and stretching of the
two materials. I did'n get rid of the wrinkles entirely but by embedding in a
flat mold with the sample elivated off the bottom so that there was resin
nearly equal above and below, the sections laid flatter and straighter.

Rick Vaughyn

PS Sometimes changing the hardness of the resin also helped, usually
harder.




From: Mary Mager :      mager-at-interchg.ubc.ca
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:14:38 -0700
Subject: Re: ZAF, Proza or Bence-Albee?

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Dear Bob,
I would try both and see if they differ. Generally, if there are heavier
elements around, the proza correction is better at correcting the matrix
absorbtion correction for the light elements. I have no experience with the
Bence-Albee. It is very useful, with glasses, to run a well-characterized
standard glass first, and try the different methods.
You wrote:

}
} To all,
}
} We are planning on conducting some elemental analyses of 400-year-old glass
} beads. Would ZAF, Proza or Bence-Albee be the preferred correction method?
} We have a Noran Voyager with v2.7 software.
}
} TIA
}
} Bob Wise
}
} Dr. Robert R. Wise
} Department of Biology and Microbiology
} University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
} Oshkosh, WI 54901
}
} (920) 424-3404 tel
} (920) 424-1101 fax
} wise-at-uwosh.edu
} www.uwosh.edu/departments/biology/wise/wise.html
Regards,
Mary
Mary Mager
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Metals and Materials Engineering
University of British Columbia
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CANADA
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From: michael shaffer :      mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:58:57 -0700
Subject: RE: ZAF, Proza or Bence-Albee?

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Frank writes ...
} }
} } I understand Bence-Albee is the best way to go for
} minerals, and glass
} (old or not) is essentially a mineral, so there you go.
}

Bence-Albee was a data reduction method for older computers ... e.g., a
DEC PDP-5 with 4kb memory. It was a look-up table method of reducing
elemental x-ray intensities to wt% oxides in the context of oxides. It
was hardly computer intensive ... and many assumptions were made
regarding simple hyperbolic modeling of the look-up beta factors. These
assumptions hold true for select groups of elements, but many problems
exists with the hyperbolic model.
The other thing to realize is that the look-up table was created with
ZAF ... that is, ZAF correction factors best fitted to the hyperbolic
model. This would imply you'd do better with ZAF and no hyperbolic
assumptions.
Now ... lets talk about which "ZAF" ...

cheerios, shAf

{} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ cogito, ergo zZOooOM /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {\/} /\ {}
Michael Shaffer, R.A. - http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~mshaf/
Geological Science's Electron Probe Facility - University of Oregon
mshaf-at-darkwing.uoregon.edu or mshaf-at-oregon.uoregon.edu






From: Richard Thrift :      Richard_Thrift-at-depotech.com
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:24:09 -0800
Subject: Re: 2-methyl butane/cryoagents -Reply

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I notice that propane is actually somewhat soluble in (liquid) water, and I
wonder if it diffuses into the sample to cause artifacts, perhaps altering
membranes or extracting lipid droplets, which are my main interest. I
would assume that IF this happens, isopentane being less soluble in
water would have less of this kind of effect. Has anyone noticed?

In what way is propane noticeably better? Just due to lower temp?
( I must have missed the discussion a few months ago)

Thanks
Richard

} } } "Jim Darley" {jim-at-proscitech.com.au} 04/24/98 04:43am } } }
Quite right, but now the discussion goes to: Which is the better cryoagent
and that was a topic here a few months ago.
Propane gas liquefied by cooling is a much, much better cryo-agent than
is isopentane.

...
}
} (2) If you have things that don't like being dunked in a hydrocarbon
} (rubbers and some plastics) it is possible to get quite powerful cooling
} by using a roughly equal mixture of acetone and methanol, which goes
down
} to at least -110^C and has a higher boiling point than the isopentane.
} The b.p. of isopentane is twenty-something, which would make it hard
to
} store in Arizona and similar places warmer than the UK.
}
} Mixtures naturally have lower freezing points than the pure solvents,
} which is the principle of Dowtherm, an industrial heat transfer fluid
} which is mixture of Naphthalene and Diphenyl Ether.
}
}
} +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
} | Robert H.Olley




From: A.P. Alves de Matos :      mtlopes-at-fc.ul.pt
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 19:55:08 +0100
Subject: Re: COLLECTING A BUFFY COAT FOR TEM

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If you happen to have very little blood you can also use microhematocrit
tubes. The tube is broken near the buffy coat and the cut tip immersed in
glutaraldehyde until the buffy-coat hardens. It can then be removed and
processed.
For details of the method see:
Moura Nunes. J.F., Soares, J.O. and Alves de Matos, A.P. - Micro-Buffy
Coats of whole blood: a method for the electron microscopic study of
mononuclear cells. Stain Technol. 54(5)257, 1979

A.P. Alves de Matos
mtlopes-at-fc.ul.pt

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} From: Sara Miller {saram-at-acpub.duke.edu}
} To: James Ito {james.ito-at-dial.pipex.com}
} Cc: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com; Winnie Westbrook
{ewwestbr-at-hsc.vcu.edu}
} Subject: Re: COLLECTING A BUFFY COAT FOR TEM
} Date: sexta-feira, 24 de abril de 1998 2:03
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} This centrifugation/fixation works. We do this then cut the slender tube

} with a razor blade above and below the buffy coat (on a piece of
} Parafilm), making a short log with open ends. Then with a paper clip or
} applicator stick (depending on the diameter of the tube) we push out the
} packed buffy coat. If it tends to fall apart, we then encase it in 1%
} molten agar to keep it together. (You can encase it without washing out
} the glut, but don't fix the agar-encased pellet in glut of the other
} solutions won't infiltrate properly. If it sticks together, you can skip

} the agar. We then process the pellet or encased cells as a piece of
tissue.
}
}
} S Miller
}
} On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, James Ito wrote:
}
} } Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:29:17 +0100
} } From: James Ito {james.ito-at-dial.pipex.com}
} } To: Microscopy-at-sparc5.microscopy.com,
} } Winnie Westbrook {ewwestbr-at-hsc.vcu.edu}
} } Subject: Re: COLLECTING A BUFFY COAT FOR TEM
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} } We do this occasionally in my lab.
} }
} } We spin the anti-coagulated blood in a narrow test tube, then carefully
} } remove as much as possible of the plasma without disturbing the buffy
} } coat. Buffered 2% Glutaraldehyde is then very gently layered on top and
} } the tube left to stand in the fridge for about a couple of hours. This
} } gives a buffy coat which is embedded in solid plasma and can be removed
} } from the tube with the help of a thin wooden stick or similar. The
} } resultant disc can then be trimmed and the pieces processed to resin as
} } you would for normal tissue. If you embed in flat moulds your specimen
} } will have orientated layers of plasma, platelets, white cells and red
} } cells.
} }
} } It's a simple and effective technique, with only one centrigugation to
} } give you a sample which is easily handled. The only downside is that
} } some drugs (e.g. aspirin, I believe) may inhibit the action of
} } glutaraldehyde on the plasma and prevent the conversion of the plasma
} } to a solid.
} }
} }
} } James Ito
} } Pathology Department
} } Royal Hospital for Sick Children
} } Yorkhill
} } Glasgow
} } Scotland.
} } ----------
} } } From: Winnie Westbrook {ewwestbr-at-hsc.vcu.edu}
} } } To: Microscopy-at-Sparc5.Microscopy.Com
} } } Subject: COLLECTING A BUFFY COAT FOR TEM
} } } Date: 22 April 1998 21:50
} } }
} } } Hi There,
} } } Looking for a good technique for making a pellet of buffy coat from
} } } normal blood. Would appreciate any help. Thanks.
} } }
} } } Winnie
} } }
} }
} }
}
} Sara E. Miller, Ph. D.
} P. O. Box 3020
} Duke University Medical Center
} Durham, NC 27710
} Ph: 919 684-3452
} FAX: 919 684-8735




From: Fred Pearson :      eoptics-at-mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:05:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Etchant Required

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Fellows Metallurgists:

I am trying to find an etchant for deep etching a Ni-W eutectic alloy
(between 17.5 + 20.7 at% W).

Also, I would appreciate any suggestions for electrically thinning such a
material.

thanks in advance

Fred Pearson


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Brockhouse Institute for Materials Research
McMaster University
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Canada L8S 4M1

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From: billemac-at-cc.usu.edu (Bill McManus)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:50:49 -0700
Subject: Heparin in fixatives?

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Does anyone know if heparin has been used as an additive in fixatives for
immunocyto chemistry?



William R. McManus
Electron Microscopy Facility
Department of Biology
Utah State University
Logan UT 84322-5305
1-435-797-1920
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From: Eric or Pat Metzler :      spruance-at-infinet.com
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 19:54:54 -0400
Subject: Leitz Labolux for sale

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From: Jim Darley :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 11:40:36 +1000
Subject: Re: 2-methyl butane/cryoagents -Reply

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Richard: Isopentane becomes very rubbery near liquid nitrogen temperature.
The temptation is to warm it a little with a metal rod, reducing the
temperature differential some more. Propane has greater freezing speeds
making vitrification possible. These things where published 20 and more
years ago when cryo fixation was developed.
I would be surprised if propane penetrates the specimen to any extent
because snap freezing is so rapid. Later the specimen is sublimed and the
propane would be the first phase to go. Also propane has been used to widely
that somebody would have noticed an effect on lipids - if that was greater
than isopentane's.
Regards
Jim Darley

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} I notice that propane is actually somewhat soluble in (liquid) water, and I
} wonder if it diffuses into the sample to cause artifacts, perhaps altering
} membranes or extracting lipid droplets, which are my main interest. I
} would assume that IF this happens, isopentane being less soluble in
} water would have less of this kind of effect. Has anyone noticed?
}
} In what way is propane noticeably better? Just due to lower temp?
} ( I must have missed the discussion a few months ago)
}
} Thanks
} Richard
}
} } } } "Jim Darley" {jim-at-proscitech.com.au} 04/24/98 04:43am } } }
} Quite right, but now the discussion goes to: Which is the better cryoagent
} and that was a topic here a few months ago.
} Propane gas liquefied by cooling is a much, much better cryo-agent than
} is isopentane.
}
} ...
} }
} } (2) If you have things that don't like being dunked in a hydrocarbon
} } (rubbers and some plastics) it is possible to get quite powerful cooling
} } by using a roughly equal mixture of acetone and methanol, which goes
} down
} } to at least -110^C and has a higher boiling point than the isopentane.
} } The b.p. of isopentane is twenty-something, which would make it hard
} to
} } store in Arizona and similar places warmer than the UK.
} }
} } Mixtures naturally have lower freezing points than the pure solvents,
} } which is the principle of Dowtherm, an industrial heat transfer fluid
} } which is mixture of Naphthalene and Diphenyl Ether.
} }
} }
} }
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
} } | Robert H.Olley
}





From: James Pawley :      jbpawley-at-facstaff.wisc.edu
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:36:39 -0500
Subject: Announcement of Multiphoton Workshop, July 11-12 Atlanta, GA

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Multi-photon Workshop:

"New Developments in Multi-photon Excitation Microscopy"

to be held, July 11 - 12, in Atlanta GA,
prior to the MSA annual meeting

Organizer: Jim Pawley

Cost: Workshop $300 (all day, HANDS ON in PM)
Symposium $50 (lectures only)

Multiphoton excitation microscopy is the latest wrinkle in 3D light
microscopy. Compared to earlier methods such as widefield deconvolution
and confocal microscopy, multiphoton excitation promises a number of
advantages: reduced effects of specimen-induced light scatter, better
dichroic efficiency and the confinement of the photodamage zone to only the
plane of focus. These improvements add up to the ability to image features
far below the surface of thick, transparent biological specimens and to do
so with up to 1000x less phototoxicity and photodamage than is produced by
"normal" confocal.

With 3D light microscopy being used increasingly to follow developments in
living cells, embryoes and tissues and the recent introduction of several
commercial multi-photon instruments, this field is displaying explosive
growth. This Symposium will include not only talks by experts from all the
leading labs in the field but will also include contributions of some who
have just begun: people like you who have overcome the technical
challenges of "femtosecond" lasers to get outstanding results!!

In addition, there will be talks by experts in fluorescent lifetime
imaging, a techniques that makes even better use of the pulsed nature of
the exciting light.

We expect to have at least 4 new, operating, multi-photon imaging
workstations for use by those who sign up for the Workshop.


TO REGISTER, CONTACT

Annamarie Dowling,
MSA Meeting Manager
7000 W. Southwest Highway
Chicago Ridge, IL 60415
(708)361-6000 / FAX -6166
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AND SHE WILL SEND YOU AN APPLICATION FORM.




TENTATIVE PROGRAM

Saturday July 11, AM: The Foundations of Multiphoton

Winfried Denk, Lucent Technologies
"Multi-photon imaging in neural tissues: recent developments"

Dave Piston Vanderbilt University,
"Two-Photon Excitation Imaging of In Vivo Glucose Metabolism"

Warren Zipfel Cornell University
"TBA"

Dave Wokosin University of Wisconsin
"Multi-mode Multi-photon Microscopy"

Vinod Subramaniam, Max Planck Institute, Goettingen
"Multi-photon microspectroscopy and imaging of near-UV
fluorophores by scanning near-field optical microscopy (SNOM)"

Sunney Xie Battelle Pacific Northwest Laboratory
"Single-Molecule and Near-field Fluorescence Imaging with Two-Photon
Excitation: New Damage Mechanisms"

Hans Gerritsen Utrecht University
"Two-photon excitation fluorescence lifetime imaging."


Saturday PM: Manufacturer's presentations I


Saturday Evening: Reception.


Sunday AM: Doing it our way

Mark Cannell University of Aukland, NZ
" Visualization and quantification of the transverse tubular system in
Living cardiac cells by 2-photon microscopy."

Steve Potter, Cal Tech
"Two photon time-lapse of dendritic spines"

Hadley Wilson Horch, Duke University
"Setting up multi-photon microscopy: problems and solutions"

Montrose Johns Hopkins
"Multi-photon imaging of pH and drug therapy in the gastrointestinal tract"


Rebecca Williams , Cornell University
"TBA"

James Pawley University of Wisconsin
"Photon efficiency and QE in 3D Microscopy"


Sunday: PM

Manufacturer's presentations II

_____________________________________________________________

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From: Lou Ann Miller :      lamiller-at-uiuc.edu
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 21:03:47 -0500
Subject: CSMS/MIKMAS May Program on the Web

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The program for the May CSMS/MIKMAS meeting is now on line at:

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From: Larry Stoter :      LPS-at-teknesis.demon.co.uk
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 08:07:58 +0100
Subject: RE: SEM radiation

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I think that in general with issues of x-ray safety, the worst should
always be assumed - so, x-rays may leak from an SEM.

In addition, I think there is also an argument to be made that SEMs could
be more dangerous the TEMs. The higher the energy of an x-ray, the more
penetrating it is and the longer the path over which it will deposit its
energy. 30 kV x-rays could deposit more energy, and hence cause more
damage, in a human body than 100 kV x-rays which having a shorter
wavelength will interact less. I don't know what x-ray energy level is most
dangerous to humans (perhaps somebody can enlighten) but I think it is
wrong to assume that the higher the energy the more dangerous it is.

Regards,

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From: Michael A. Mancini, Ph.D. :      mancini-at-bcm.tmc.edu
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 12:05:51 -0500
Subject: Position available: Baylor College of Medicine

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I am afraid that Larry's reply could not be "wronger". Some people will not
know better and take the misleading information on board.

A TEM, when compared with a SEM potentially is the greater radiation risk.
An SEM with a maximum of say 30kV is insignificant compared with a 200kV
instrument. The wavelengths of electrons is changed with accelerating
voltage but the K,L,M etc. X-rays generated by these electrons are in fact
defined by the minimum electron energy required for their production.
Regardless of the electron beam used to generate, the most powerful Cu X-ray
is 8.978keV (the eV required to generate defines these X-rays). The minimum
energy to generate the most powerful gold X-rays is 80.724keV. Those X-rays
have far greater penetrating power and are rather more likely to leak from a
badly modified instrument. The maximum X-ray generation occurs when the eV
of the beam is about 2.8x the energy of a particular X-ray.
So a 200kV instrument can almost reach maximum production of the most
powerful K alpha Au X-rays.
If only Al and C were used in an instrument (I know its not on) we would not
generate such powerful X-rays. Unfortunately the light elements have very
little X-ray stopping power. As a consequence in high kV instruments the
manufacturers use in the very top aperture position an array of large,
apertures with large, angled edges to stop the stray electron beam and the
X-rays. Three or more apertures of different metals are used in that array
to stop excess X-rays and to produce a "clean" beam for X-ray analyses.
To do any harm X-rays must pass through the column. Happily that is easier
prevented in the design of TEM and SEM than in X-ray diffractometers, which
have far more movement of main components required. Any modern SEM or TEM,
as provided by the manufacturers has so little leakage that microscopists
should worry about the radiation received during a single flight at high
altitude and not about sitting in front of these instruments.
If you must modify an instrument, I suggest that an SEM is less likely to
cause real grief than a TEM.
Cheers
Jim Darley

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From: Sam Mancuso :      mancuso4-at-ix.netcom.com
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 14:42:28 -0600
Subject: M&M98 Short Courses

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From: Nestor J. Zaluzec :      zaluzec-at-Sparc5.Microscopy.Com
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 14:49:06 -0600
Subject: Microscopy & Microanalysis 98

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I would think by now, most people on the
Microscopy Listserver would know to go to the MSA
WWW Site to find out information about M&M 98.
But is seems that may not be the case. Here is the URL

http://www.msa.microscopy.com

To register or get information about
the meeting contact the M&M98 Meeting Manager.

Contact information for both the Business Office
as well as the Meeting Manager are also listed
on the WWW site.

Microscopy & Microanalysis Meeting Manager

The Rebedeau Group
7000 W. Southwest Highway
Chicago Ridge, IL 60415
Tel:(708) 361-6000;
Fax (708) 361-6166
E-mail: MSAMeetingManager-at-MSA.Microscopy.Com






From: Garber, Charles A. :      cgarber-at-2spi.com
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 98 20:48:29 -0500
Subject: Collodion(TM) question

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-- [ From: Garber, Charles A. * EMC.Ver #3.1 ] --

Mark Tobin wrote:
============================================
Has anybody heard of a material called Collodion being used for mounting
materials for microscopy? I was asked by a colleague today and have not
heard of it.

Any information, UK suppliers in particular, would be greatly appreciated ==
==========================================
Collodion™ is manufactured by nitrating with nitric acid and sulfating with
sulfuric acid relatively ordinary cotton to make it soluble (as a result of
the addition of soluble nitrate and sulfate groups). When dried, the
solids become what is known as "gun cotton" because of its use as gun powder
. We believe that Parlodion™ is very similar but it does have a different
corporate and process origin and it unlikely to be exactly identical. At the
very least, one could expect that the degree of nitrating and sulfating
might vary between the several different manufacturers, thereby resulting in
at least some subtle variation in the final properties. This could of course
help explain why one researcher might have difficulty repeating someone
else's work. However, most
researchers report obtaining similar results, whether the application is for
the casting of a film for TEM grids or for the making of replicas on
metallurgical or ceramic types of surfaces.

We believe Collodion to be similar but not necessarily identical to the
products called "Celloidin" and also, "LVN" , or "low viscosity
nitrocellulose". And all of the mentioned products are supposed to be less
explosive than the original "gun cotton".

These materials, e.g. all of the above mentioned products based on
nitrocellulose nitrate, at one time, were also used widely as embedding
resins, but have been replaced in most applications by more modern
materials. However, for the embedding of really large samples, a technique
called "double embedding" still requires a nitrocellulose type material.
However, for specific kinds of samples, there might be a preference for one
or the other of the nitrocellulose based materials.

Collodion, as well as the sister nitrocellulose based materials are
flammable solids and require great care in their handling.

Disclaimer: SPI has offered both Parlodion and Collodion in both solid form
as well as in solutions of 2% in amyl acetate for a long time. Both the
solid material or solutions can be ordered either directly from SPI in the
USA or from our distributor in the UK listed on our website. Our interest
is to make sure that people understand that generically, these materials
seem to be similar and while it is to the first approximation, if you have
one "in hand", then you already have something that is very close to the
other. Our other interest is to remind everyone that these are trade names
of manufacturing companies and first use on a page should include the use of
a "TM".

Chuck

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From: COURYHOUSE :      COURYHOUSE-at-aol.com
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 02:27:16 EDT
Subject: Re: Collodion(TM) question

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For collodion check pharmacy supply house
when I bought out a drug store I acquired some in the bulk chemicals we got.

Ed Sharpe archivist smecc




From: Larry Stoter :      LPS-at-teknesis.demon.co.uk
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 07:39:17 +0100
Subject: Re: Fw: SEM radiation

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} I am afraid that Larry's reply could not be "wronger". Some people will not
} know better and take the misleading information on board.
}
} A TEM, when compared with a SEM potentially is the greater radiation risk.
} An SEM with a maximum of say 30kV is insignificant compared with a 200kV
} instrument. The wavelengths of electrons is changed with accelerating
} voltage but the K,L,M etc. X-rays generated by these electrons are in fact
} defined by the minimum electron energy required for their production.
} Regardless of the electron beam used to generate, the most powerful Cu X-ray
} is 8.978keV (the eV required to generate defines these X-rays). The minimum

snips ..

} If you must modify an instrument, I suggest that an SEM is less likely to
} cause real grief than a TEM.
} Cheers
} Jim Darley
}
} ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS
} PO Box 111, Thuringowa QLD 4817 Australia
} Phone +61 7 4774 0370 Fax: +61 7 4789 2313
} Great microscopy catalogue, 500 Links, MSDS, User Notes

Which actually misses the point I was trying to make:) I don't think that
at any point I said that a TEM was safer than an SEM with regard to x-ray
emissions. What I said, and the point that I was making, is that just
because a SEM potentially generates less energetic x-rays than a TEM, it
cannot be assumed that it is safer than a TEM (as Jim suggests).

As Jim points out, a SEM is just as capable as a TEM of generating plenty
of x-rays. However, just because the HV is lower, it doesn't mean it is
less dangerous. In addition, if people think that because of the lower HV,
it is safer to modify SEMs, they will be heading for trouble - mainly
because most people make an elementary mistake with regard to shielding for
x-rays.

Many people think that to stop x-rays, you need a nice heavy metal, like
lead. Which is correct as far as it goes but ignores the generation
mechanism - electrons. Electrons, even at high kV have about as much
penetrating power as a mosquito - high energy but no momentum. So, if you
put a heavy metal in the way of an electron beam, it stops the electrons
and generates lots of nice, highly penetrating heavy metal x-rays. The
correct way to shield is a double layer of light elements and heavy
elements - if electrons are going to hit anything, make sure it is
aluminium or carbon. THEN, you have the lead to stop the Al x-rays - much
safer and less lead needed.

The final point that I was raising is that not all x-rays are equally
dangerous to people. I don't know the detail on this and enlightenment from
someone who does would be useful. The energy of an x-ray (its wavelength)
determines how strongly it interacts with matter. It is that interaction
which causes damage. Something that passes straight through without
interaction won't cause any damage - I guess we all have pleny of high
energy neutrinos passing through us every day - with minimal effect. From
this, very high energy x-rays, in themselves, would not be a direct danger.
On the other hand low energy x-rays would be highly interacting and easily
cause damage.

However, this observation need quantification - which I can't give. It
would seem that there is an x-ray energy level which would cause most
damage to a human. Below AND above that energy level would both be less
dangerous. Now, IF that maximum danger energy is around 10 kV, SEMs will
certainly be just as dangerous as TEMs. However, if the maximum danger
energy level is 80 kV, then TEMs are a significantly greater potential
danger.

--
Larry Stoter
17, Rocks Park Road, Uckfield, E. Sussex, TN22 2AT, UK
email: LPS-at-teknesis.demon.co.uk
Phone/Fax: +44 (0)1825 767967






From: H.BRINKIES :      hbrinkies-at-lucy.cc.swin.edu.au
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 07:32:31 -0600
Subject: Collodion

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{ Mark Tobin wrote:
============================================
{ Has anybody heard of a material called Collodion being used for
{ mounting materials for microscopy? I was asked by a colleague
{ today and have not heard of it.

I have not heard to use Collodion as mounting material.
However it can be used in replication techniques. To find out about
this method you can read for instance:

D.H.Kay Techniques for E.M. (pages 60/61)
G.Thomas Transmission E.M. on Metals (pages 134 & 179)
A.M.Glauert in Practical Methods in E.M. Replica, Shadowing and
Freeze-Etching Techniques (page 125)

Hans Brinkies
Senior Lecturer
SWINBURNE, University of Technology
School of Engineering and Science
Hawthorn, 3122, Melbourne - Australia
Hbrinkies-at-swin.edu.au






From: kennedy-at-nsi.edu (Grace Kennedy)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 07:37:22 -0800
Subject: collodion

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Collodion is a 5% (I think) solution of celloidin in absolute alcohol and
ether(diethyl). It is sold at this concentration for a number of simple
applications. Fisher Scientific sells it, cat.#C408-500.






From: Greg D. Haugstad :      haugs001-at-maroon.tc.umn.edu
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:16:08 -0500
Subject: SPM master class (workshop)

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Scanning Probe Microscopy (SPM) Master Class
Center for Interfacial Engineering
University of Minnesota

DATE

Friday, May 22, 1998 and Saturday, May 23, 1998
Early registration deadline: April 24, 1998
Final registration deadline: May 8, 1998
Maximum Number of Attendees - 18

SPEAKERS

Professor Stuart Lindsay, Arizona State University
Professor Andrew Hillier, University of Virginia
Dr. Greg Haugstad, University of Minnesota
(See enclosed interests/topics)

FORMAT

Friday morning (lunch provided) - speakers
Friday afternoon - 4 hours on 6 experimental stations with expert
assistance
Saturday morning - 4 hours on 6 experimental stations with expert assistance

LOCATION

117/119 Smith Hall and 12 Shepherd Labs, University of Minnesota,
Minneapolis, MN

PRICE

• Academic: $95 for early registration, $105 for late registration
• Industrial: $295 for early registration, $325 for late registration
• Price includes talks, instrument time with assistance, lunch

PAYMENT

With registration; print and mail attached registration card (TIFF).

CONTACT INFORMATION

Call Characterization Facility at 612-626-7594 to reserve spot.
Attendees must bring samples and have prior SPM experience

HOTELS

Radisson Hotel
1-800-333-3333
615 Washington Avenue S.E.
Minneapolis, MN 55414

Metrodome Days Inn
612-623-3999
2407 University Avenue S.E
Minneapolis, MN 55414

Holiday Inn Metrodome
1-800-448-3663
1500 Washington Avenue So.
Minneapolis, MN 55454

ABOUT THE SPEAKERS:

Stuart Lindsay is professor of physics at Arizona State University and Vice
President of Research and Development at Molecular Imaging, a scanning probe
microscope manufacturer. He received his Ph.D. in physics from the
University of Manchester in 1976. In addition to numerous original-research
articles, he has authored 16 review articles/book chapters and received 6
patents. His research interests are in biological physics: primarily
biomolecular structure and electron transfer processes, as well as the
development of new SPM instrumentation to enable these studies. Specific
topics include the binding of regulatory proteins that switch certain genes
on and others off. Prof. Lindsay will speak about in-fluid scanning force
microscopy including MAC mode (intermittent contact under magnetic
cantilever modulation), DNA imaging, and stiffness measurements within
ordered fluid layers

Andrew Hillier is assistant professor of chemical engineering at the
University of Virginia. He received his Ph.D. in chemical engineering from
the University of Minnesota in 1995. His research interests focus on the
chemical engineering aspects of materials and interfaces. This involves a
range of topics including electrochemistry, materials chemistry,
crystallization, catalysis, and the development and application of high
resolution imaging techniques for in situ characterization of interfacial
processes. Specific topics include the study of intermolecular forces and
ordering phenomena in molecular systems, particularly during the
crystallization of pharmaceutical products. Prof. Hillier will speak about
resolution limits in scanning force microscopy, double-layer force
measurements in electrolyte, and AC imaging with a thermally-driven
cantilever.

Greg Haugstad is research associate in the CIE Characterization Facility at
the University of Minnesota. He received his Ph.D. in physics from the
University of Minnesota in 1991. His research interests are in polymer
physics, with primary focus on energy-dissipative phenomena such as friction
and viscoelasticity. Subtopics include the response of polymers to
perturbative processes in SPM, i.e. changes in molecular-scale structure
and/or properties induced by local shear/tensile forces. Another subtopic
examines the mechanical/adhesive character of single or countable polymer
molecules. A common thread in all of his work is the development of SPM
methodologies to study nanoscale phenomena. Dr. Haugstad will speak about
temperature-dependent scanning force microscopy of polymer friction/wear,
and dynamic mode on polymer films with amplitude and phase imaging.




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Date: 27 Apr 1998 08:20:13 -0700
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From: Judy Murphy :      jmurphy-at-sjdccd.cc.ca.us
Date: 27 Apr 1998 08:20:13 -0700
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From: Randy Tindall :      rtindell-at-NMSU.Edu
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:56:55 -0600
Subject: SEM/EDS Separating sample from filter

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Hi,

We are analyzing airborne particulates in an ongoing project and one
question that has arisen concerns the possibility of separating the sample
from the filter matrix. One particular sample was collected on a small
fiberglass-type filter, making it nearly impossible to get into the fibers
with the probe and get decent EDS done on particles. We have tried to take
an overall spectrum of the filter, then subtract out a spectrum taken from
an unused filter under identical beam/time/etc. conditions, but we're
working blind as far as knowing if these results are giving us a real
picture of what's there.

Is there a way of treating these filters, perhaps with solvents and
sonication, that would give separate out enough particles to mount on a
stub? We will try some things here, but someone with previous experience
might be able to save us considerable time. The idea is to get an
"overall" composition of airborne contaminants from the site, with
additional analysis of individual particles, so hopefully what we separate
from the filter would be representative of what was really in the filter.
(Aye, there's the rub...)

Hopefully yours,
Randy


Randy Tindall
Electron Microscope Laboratory
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New Mexico State University
Las Cruces, NM 88003

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From: corwinl-at-pt.cyanamid.com
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Collodion from the chemist's viewpoint

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Browsing in (Merriam) Webster's Collegiate and Hackh's Chemical
dictionary reveals many interesting tidbits, though not necessarily
useful ones. Of possible interest: collodion and pyroxylin are mostly
the tri and tetranitrate of cellulose, gun cotton (main ingredient of
smokeless powder) the hexanitrate. Terms first used ca. 1850-1880. No
hint that collodion is a trademark, though Celluloid and Cellophane
are or were. Use of ethyl alcohol + ethyl ether as solvents was
possibly at one time superseded by the Cellosolve family
(R-CH2CH2-OH), which combines the ether and hydroxyl functions in one
molecule, but this group of solvents is now considered rather toxic.




Leonard R. Corwin
Fort Dodge Animal Health
Cyanamid Agricultural Research Center
Quaker Bridge & Clarksville Roads
PO Box 400
Princeton, NJ 08543-0400
609-716-2278
609-275-5239 fax
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From: Kenneth A. Taylor :      taylor-at-bio.fsu.edu
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:15:42 -0400
Subject: Postdoctoral positions available

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{fontfamily} {param} New_Century_Schlbk {/param} RESEARCH ASSOCIATE
POSITION AVAILABLE


A Research Associate position is available immediately to work on the
3-D structure of muscle and muscle/cytoskeleton proteins. One project
aims to determine the structure of crossbridges in contracting insect
flight muscle using fast freezing/freeze substitution procedures which
trap force bearing myosin crossbridges with millisecond time
resolution. Electron tomography is then used to produce 3-D images that
preserve the variable structure of the crossbridges for subsequent
analysis. Mechanical records on stiffness and tension are recorded up
to the moment of freezing. Parallel time resolved X-ray diffraction
data of the diffrent contractile states is also available with which to
compare the EM data with native muscle structure. This project offers
a unique opportunity to learn electron tomography, correspondence
analysis of 3-D motifs and atomic modeling. The project involves
primarily computing to obtain the 3-D images and computer modeling to
interpret the structure. =20


The second project involves structure of cytoskeletal proteins on lipid
monolayers, among these are alpha-actinins from many different species
and tissues. The alpha-actinin crystals are large in extent and to
date yeild structural information to at least 10 Angstroms resolution.=20
In addition, we have obtained crystals of a wide range of other
proteins as well. Project is funded through January 2001. This
project offers the opportunity to learn protein crystallization on
lipid monolayers and methods for producing multiprotein complexes for
3-D imaging. =20


Applicants for both positions must have a PhD degree. Salary and
relocation funds are negotiable based on relevent experience. =20


The successful applicant will become a member of the Structural Biology
program at Florida State University that includes 3 protein X-ray
crystallography groups, three macromolecular NMR groups, 2 EPR groups
and 2 electron microscopy groups. Facilities for electron protein
crystallography include a Philips CM300-FEG, a Philips CM120, 3 Gatan
cryotransfer systems, a Gatan wide angle TV camera, a Perkin-Elmer
PDS1010M densitometer, 2 surveying optical diffractometers. Inquiries
and applications should be made to Dr. Kenneth Taylor, Institute of
Molecular Biophysics, Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL
32306-4380. Tel: (850) 644-3357. FAX (850) 561-1406. E-mail:=20
taylor-at-bio.fsu.edu. Applicants should provide a CV and the names and
addresses of 3 former mentors or knowledgeable individuals who can
provided reference letters. =20


Recent Pertinent Publications:


K. A. Taylor & D. W. Taylor. Projection image of smooth muscle
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from 2-D crystals formed on positively charged lipid layers.=20
{italic} J. Mol. Biol. {/italic} {underline} 230 {/underline} , 196-205
(1993).


K. A. Taylor & S. Varga. Similarity of 3-D microcrystals of detergent
solubilized (Na {smaller} + {/smaller} ,K {smaller} + {/smaller} )-ATPase from
pig kidney and Ca {smaller} 2+ {/smaller} -ATPase from skeletal muscle
sarcoplasmic reticulum. {italic} J. Biol. Chem.=20
{/italic} {underline} 269 {/underline} , 10107-10111 (1994). =20


H. Schmitz, C. Lucaveche, M. K. Reedy & K. A. Taylor. Oblique section
3-D reconstruction of relaxed insect flight muscle reveals the
crossbridge lattice in helical registration. {italic} Biophys. J.
{/italic} {underline} 67 {/underline} , 1620-1633 (1994). =20


H. Winkler & K. A. Taylor. 3D reconstruction by combining data from
sections cut oblique to different unit cell axes.=20
{italic} Ultramicroscopy {/italic} {underline} 55 {/underline} , 357-371
(1994). =20


K. A. Taylor & D. W. Taylor. Formation of 2-D complexes of F-actin and
crosslinking proteins on lipid monolayers: demonstration of unipolar
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am} New_Century_Schlbk {/param} -actinin-F-actin
crosslinking. {italic} Biophys. J. {/italic} {underline} 67 {/underline} ,
1976-1983 (1994)


H. P. Erickson, D. W. Taylor, K. A. Taylor & D. Bramhill. Bacterial
cell division protein FtsZ assembles into protofilament sheets and
minirings; structural homologs of tubulin polymers. {italic} Proc. Nat.
Acad. Sci. USA. {/italic} {underline} 93 {/underline} , 519-523 (1996)


Holger Schmitz, Mary C. Reedy, Michael K. Reedy, Richard T. Tregear,
Hanspeter Winkler, Kenneth A. Taylor. Electron tomography of Insect
=46light Muscle in Rigor and AMPPNP at 23=B0C. {italic} J. Mol.
Biol. {/italic} 264, 279-301 (1996)


H. Schmitz, M. C. Reedy, M. K. Reedy, R. T. Tregear, H. Winkler, K. A.
Taylor. Tomographic 3-D Reconstruction of Insect Flight Muscle
Partially Relaxed by AMPPNP and Ethylene Glycol. {italic} J. Cell Biol.
{/italic} {underline} 139 {/underline} , 695-707 (1997)


Kenneth A. Taylor, Jinghua Tang, Yifan Cheng & Hanspeter Winkler. The
use of electron tomography for structural analysis of disordered
protein arrays. {italic} J. Struct. Biol.
{/italic} {underline} 120 {/underline} , 372-386 (1997)



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Kenneth A. Taylor, Ph.D. Office phone: 850-644-3357 =20

Institute of Molecular Biophysics Lab phone: 850-644-4104

=46lorida State University EM room phone: 850-644-8769

Tallahassee, FL 32306-4380 Fax: 850-561-1406

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From: Stephen A. Shaffer :      sshaffer-at-microdataware.com
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:14:02 -0700
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Garber, Charles A. wrote:

} Mark Tobin wrote:
} ============================================
} Has anybody heard of a material called Collodion being used for mounting
} materials for microscopy? I was asked by a colleague today and have not
} heard of it.
}
} Any information, UK suppliers in particular, would be greatly appreciated
} ============================================

Collodion, as a mounting and particle manipulation medium for light and electron
microscopy as well as elemental analysis, is widely discussed in the print
Particle Atlas as well as the more recent Particle Atlas Electronic Edition.
The sections are too extensive to quote here, but a couple of excerpts may be
helpful:

} From Chapter 3, Particle Handling Techniques:

"Another mounting medium is flexible collodion. A dilute solution of particles
in amyl acetate plus collodion is spread on a glass slide and allowed to dry,
leaving the particles suspended in a clear film. Even though the refractive
index of this medium is low, it disperses particles well. This medium is used
primarily if there are very small particles ( {5 micrometers) to remove for
further analysis. Collodion permits easy removal of single, very small
particles by cutting out small squares of film after location microscopically."

Later, in the same chapter:

"A good example of how collodion can be used to separate particles from a matrix
is a recent problem solved for a color TV manufacturer. Color TV tubes were
being rejected because of tiny particles that produced green spots on the TV
screen. A particle could not be picked up directly because it rested on a {1
micrometer aluminum film with a soft layer of phosphor beneath. The slightest
touch of the needle would break the aluminum film, and the particle would be
lost in the phosphor layer beneath. A 1 mm drop of collodion plus solvent was
placed on the contaminated area and allowed to harden. The aluminum film, thus
strengthened, was then lifted with a tungsten needle dipped in water. This
wetted and held the loose phosphor beneath so that the collodion-aluminum film
could be lifted, placed on a glass slide and softened with a drop of amyl
acetate. An examination in transmitted light revealed a tiny hole in the
aluminum film, with a 5 to 10 micrometer contaminant in the center. The
particle was readily separated for microprobe and x-ray analysis with a No. 3
tungsten needle and just enough amyl acetate to allow the particle to flow
slowly in the collodion."

For more information on the Particle Atlas Electronic Edition, contact me
off-list at sshaffer-at-microdatawrae.com .







From: rw9-at-psu.edu (Rosemary Walsh)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 16:55:02 -0500
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Hello,
I am in search of a good protocol for the negative staining and TEM of
microtubules assembled in vitro in the presence of taxol. Specifically, I
need to know the following:
Concentration of MTs/taxol
Fix used and concentration (if any)
Time of fix
Duration of sample application to grid
Duration of uranyl acetate application to grid

Please cc response to my email address: rcm7-at-psu.edu

Thanks,
Rich Moore
Penn State University
rcm7-at-psu.edu

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Rosemary Walsh
Electron Microscope Facility for the Life Sciences
The Biotechnology Institute for Research and Education
1 South Frear Lab
University Park, PA 16802
814-865-0212 email:rw9-at-psu.edu
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From: Zia U Rahman :      zrahman-at-pegasus.cc.ucf.edu
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:24:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Freon 12

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Looking for source/supplier to get Freon 12. This is required for HT Tank
of JEOL TEM 2000FX. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Zia ur Rahman
Materials Characterization Facility,
University of Central Florida,
Orlando, Florida,
USA

zur-at-mmae.engr.ucf.edu





From: Kenneth Converse :      qualityimages-at-netrax.net
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:19:36 -0700
Subject: Re: Fw: SEM radiation

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Larry Stoter wrote:
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} } I am afraid that Larry's reply could not be "wronger". Some people will not
} } know better and take the misleading information on board.
} }
} } A TEM, when compared with a SEM potentially is the greater radiation risk.
} } An SEM with a maximum of say 30kV is insignificant compared with a 200kV
} } instrument. The wavelengths of electrons is changed with accelerating
} } voltage but the K,L,M etc. X-rays generated by these electrons are in fact
} } defined by the minimum electron energy required for their production.
} } Regardless of the electron beam used to generate, the most powerful Cu X-ray
} } is 8.978keV (the eV required to generate defines these X-rays). The minimum
}
} snips ..
}
} } If you must modify an instrument, I suggest that an SEM is less likely to
} } cause real grief than a TEM.
} } Cheers
} } Jim Darley
} }
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}
} Which actually misses the point I was trying to make:) I don't think that
} at any point I said that a TEM was safer than an SEM with regard to x-ray
} emissions. What I said, and the point that I was making, is that just
} because a SEM potentially generates less energetic x-rays than a TEM, it
} cannot be assumed that it is safer than a TEM (as Jim suggests).
}
} As Jim points out, a SEM is just as capable as a TEM of generating plenty
} of x-rays. However, just because the HV is lower, it doesn't mean it is
} less dangerous. In addition, if people think that because of the lower HV,
} it is safer to modify SEMs, they will be heading for trouble - mainly
} because most people make an elementary mistake with regard to shielding for
} x-rays.
}
} Many people think that to stop x-rays, you need a nice heavy metal, like
} lead. Which is correct as far as it goes but ignores the generation
} mechanism - electrons. Electrons, even at high kV have about as much
} penetrating power as a mosquito - high energy but no momentum. So, if you
} put a heavy metal in the way of an electron beam, it stops the electrons
} and generates lots of nice, highly penetrating heavy metal x-rays. The
} correct way to shield is a double layer of light elements and heavy
} elements - if electrons are going to hit anything, make sure it is
} aluminium or carbon. THEN, you have the lead to stop the Al x-rays - much
} safer and less lead needed.
}
} The final point that I was raising is that not all x-rays are equally
} dangerous to people. I don't know the detail on this and enlightenment from
} someone who does would be useful. The energy of an x-ray (its wavelength)
} determines how strongly it interacts with matter. It is that interaction
} which causes damage. Something that passes straight through without
} interaction won't cause any damage - I guess we all have pleny of high
} energy neutrinos passing through us every day - with minimal effect. From
} this, very high energy x-rays, in themselves, would not be a direct danger.
} On the other hand low energy x-rays would be highly interacting and easily
} cause damage.
}
} However, this observation need quantification - which I can't give. It
} would seem that there is an x-ray energy level which would cause most
} damage to a human. Below AND above that energy level would both be less
} dangerous. Now, IF that maximum danger energy is around 10 kV, SEMs will
} certainly be just as dangerous as TEMs. However, if the maximum danger
} energy level is 80 kV, then TEMs are a significantly greater potential
} danger.
}
} --
} Larry Stoter
} 17, Rocks Park Road, Uckfield, E. Sussex, TN22 2AT, UK
} email: LPS-at-teknesis.demon.co.uk
} Phone/Fax: +44 (0)1825 767967

Larry,

The main point that you have missed is that there is virtually nowhere
for x-rays to escape from an SEM. The chief point of generation is the
gun area and I have not seen any with less than about 1/2" of steel
(often 301 stainless) that must be penetrated. 30keV won't do it.

By the time you get down to the chamber, you are generating very few
x-rays.

You know the x-ray film that the dentist exposes through your cheek, Jaw
and teeth in 1/25 to 1/10 second? He's using a 70keV 15-25mA source.
I'm not sure what the target metal is, but it may be copper. When I use
that film to align a wavelength spectrometer, I am exposing it at a
distance of about a foot from the beam with an absorbed current of 100nA
on copper at 30keV. (This is a very high current for an SEM. A typical
current for EDS work is 200-400pA and high res imaging is 1-10pA.)
exposure is on the order of 5-10 MINUTES!

Most SEMs don't have anything but steel around the chamber. Some have
glass ports for specimen airlocks, but the HV is generally
interlocked. I had a customer in Canada who made a Plexiglass port and
often ran 12-18 hour EDS scans. He put a film badge inside the metal
cover for this port and left it there for a month. He got no report of
dosage back after turning in the badge.

Some day I plan to survey an SEM with a light element detector, then
survey the color monitor that goes with the EDS. I'm betting that there
is nothing detectable from the SEM and considerable emission from the
monitor. Any takers?

TEMs ARE inherently dangerous because they CAN generate very hard x-rays
that are difficult to contain, and you are looking directly at the
impact point of a lot of very energetic electrons. The column is also
far more complex, making it harder to shield.

You're correct about harder x-rays spreading their energy over a greater
volume of tissue, but you miss the point that the soft x-rays can't
leave the system. Your color TV at home is probably a lot more
dangerous than any SEM I've ever seen.

Ken Converse
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From: Larry Stoter :      LPS-at-teknesis.demon.co.uk
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 07:51:53 +0100
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snips ...

} The main point that you have missed is that there is virtually nowhere
} for x-rays to escape from an SEM.

want a bet:)

} The chief point of generation is the gun area

so what do all those electron streaming down the column do when they hit
apertures, valves, etc. Create fluffy bunnies?

} and I have not seen any with less than about 1/2" of steel
} (often 301 stainless) that must be penetrated. 30keV won't do it.
}
} By the time you get down to the chamber, you are generating very few
} x-rays.

I'd agree that the greatest intensity of x-rays is likely to be generated
around the gun - SEM or TEM. However, x-rays can be generated elsewhere.
And remember this question related to modifications - if somebody starts
making modifications anywhere they risk letting x-rays out.

} You know the x-ray film that the dentist exposes through your cheek, Jaw
} and teeth in 1/25 to 1/10 second? He's using a 70keV 15-25mA source.
} I'm not sure what the target metal is, but it may be copper. When I use

I know my dentist runs for cover everytime he x-rays my teeth. I can't help
wondering as I sit there with the tube against the side of my head and the
dentist 20 feet away behind a lead-lined wall if there is an international
conspiracy by dentists to take over the world:)

} that film to align a wavelength spectrometer, I am exposing it at a
} distance of about a foot from the beam with an absorbed current of 100nA
} on copper at 30keV. (This is a very high current for an SEM. A typical
} current for EDS work is 200-400pA and high res imaging is 1-10pA.)
} exposure is on the order of 5-10 MINUTES!

But you keep assuming that everything is working correctly, in an
unmodified SEM. I bet the guys at Three Mile Island just KNEW there was
nothing to worry about.

} Most SEMs don't have anything but steel around the chamber. Some have
} glass ports for specimen airlocks, but the HV is generally
} interlocked. I had a customer in Canada who made a Plexiglass port and
} often ran 12-18 hour EDS scans. He put a film badge inside the metal
} cover for this port and left it there for a month. He got no report of
} dosage back after turning in the badge.

Which I for one find very worryinging.

} Some day I plan to survey an SEM with a light element detector, then
} survey the color monitor that goes with the EDS. I'm betting that there
} is nothing detectable from the SEM and considerable emission from the
} monitor. Any takers?

Try leaving your film badge on top of the TV at home over the week end. A
standard SEM will certainly allow fewer x-rays to escape than any TV or
monitor. However, we aren't talking about standard SEMs - we are talking
about ones that users modify.

Which reminds me - if you ever get the chance, try a radiation check in a
long haul airliner. I had a colleague who one took a flight from Germany
over to California, to do some radiation checks on an instrument before it
was shipped to Germany, He hand-carried his monitoring instruments in the
cabin. In mid-Atlantic, the inside of the plane broke the German radiation
exposure limits - not by just a little bit but by a factor of more than
double.

} TEMs ARE inherently dangerous because they CAN generate very hard x-rays
} that are difficult to contain, and you are looking directly at the
} impact point of a lot of very energetic electrons. The column is also
} far more complex, making it harder to shield.

Please, point out precisely where I said that TEMs weren't dangerous. I'm
making a point that SEMs as well have the potential to be dangerous and
that dismissing this danger because the kV is lower and won't harm you,
might just be a triffle foolish. The english language is actually capable
of greater subtleties than simple right/wrong arguments.

} You're correct about harder x-rays spreading their energy over a greater
} volume of tissue, but you miss the point that the soft x-rays can't
} leave the system.

In principle, always provided that the original manufacturers configuration
has not been modified - which is where the discussion started.

} Your color TV at home is probably a lot more
} dangerous than any SEM I've ever seen.
}
} Ken Converse
} Quality Images
} Delta, PA
} third party SEM service

Regards,

--
Larry Stoter
17, Rocks Park Road, Uckfield, E. Sussex, TN22 2AT, UK
email: LPS-at-teknesis.demon.co.uk
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From: Luc Harmsen :      anaspec-at-icon.co.za
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:06:40 +0200
Subject: Power regulator board S200 wanted

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Hi all

I wonder if somebody out there can help.
We are looking for a power regulator board for a Cambridge S200 SEM, part number 852594.
Leo can make one up for us, but it will take up to six months to deliver as it is an old model.
Please contact us if you can supply.

Luc Harmsen
Anaspec, South Africa
International technical support on microscopy.
Tel: +27 (0) 11 476 3455
Fax:+27 (0) 11 476 7290
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From: Ron Doole :      ron.doole-at-materials.oxford.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:56:22 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Re: Freon 12

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On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, Zia U Rahman wrote:

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} Looking for source/supplier to get Freon 12. This is required for HT Tank
} of JEOL TEM 2000FX. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
}
} Zia ur Rahman
} Materials Characterization Facility,
} University of Central Florida,
} Orlando, Florida,
} USA
}
} zur-at-mmae.engr.ucf.edu
}
Hi,

The original freon gas used in the gun and HT tank of JEOL
microscopes is no longer used as it is a CFC and environmentally damaging.
JEOL reccomend that it be replaced with SF6 (sulphur hexaflouride) gas and
certainly contacted UK users with details of a modification to do this.
The SF6 has to run at a slightly higher pressure: 0.18 to 0.20 kg/cm2 in
the tank and 2.8 to 3.0 kg/cm2 in the gun for our 2010 on SF6 compared to
0.05 to 0.15 kg/cm2 in the tank and 1.75 to 1.95 kg/cm2 in the gun for
freon.
This just involves a change of the gas fittings on the tank to
enable a SF6 cylinder to be used for the gas fill, however, the gun
requires a change in gas fittings, a new (higher range) pressure gauge and
replacing the overpressure valve (or fitting one if not fitted). You also
need to be careful when checking for gas leaks as the pressure is higher
then previously used, make sure that all pipes and fitting that you reuse
are good enough for the higher pressure.

Either contact JEOL or sort it out yourselves, we have converted 2
JEOL 4000s and a 2010 successfully and will convert our 200CX when it next
needs to be serviced in either the tank or gun. We have found that the
characteristics of the HT have changed a little. If we have a flashover
there is no longer a carbon track to be cleaned but the HT set prefers to
be allowed to recover for a while before applying the maximum voltage
again (usually 10 mins or maybe 1 hour for large flashover at 400KV).

Make sure that you read the safety data for SF6 gas, before you
convert your machine, and take the appropriate local action. A local (to
you) company makes a very good leak detector for freon or SF6. Leak-seeker
model L-790a from CPS Products Inc. Hialeah, FL 33013 (Phone (305)
687-4121). (No interests in JEOL or CPS)

Ron

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Department of Materials, phone +44 (0) 1865 273701
University of Oxford, fax +44 (0) 1865 283333
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From: Kremer, Tom :      tkremer-at-kcc.com
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:53:14 -0500
Subject: SEM/EDS Separating sample from filter

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Randy Tindall wrote:

We are analyzing airborne particulates in an ongoing project and one
question that has arisen concerns the possibility of separating the sample
from the filter matrix. One particular sample was collected on a small
fiberglass-type filter, making it nearly impossible to get into the fibers
with the probe and get decent EDS done on particles. ... Is there a way of
treating these filters, perhaps with solvents and
sonication, that would give separate out enough particles to mount on a
stub?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------
You mentioned that this is an ongoing project so I assume you will be taking
more samples. I would highly recommend that further sampling for airborne
particulate be done with polycarbonate membrane filters. Gelman and
Nuclepore are two brand names that come to mind. The environmental
services labs which monitored for asbestos used these extensively. The
polycarbonate membrane is solid film with sub-micron, radiation induced
holes
etched in them which makes them ideal for generating carbon film replicas
for TEM analysis. The particles of interest remained embedded in the carbon
film while the filter was dissolved away. In contrast, larger particles can
be
analyzed directlyon the filter in the SEM or easily picked off of the filter
surface.

Regarding your fiberglass filter, I'm sorry I can't help you too much.
Whatever
you know about the air particulate should guide you. Is it mineral or
organic?

Tom Kremer
tkremer-at-kcc.com
920-721-4583




From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:43:39 -0400 (EDT)
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Dear Larry, Ken, et al.,
}
} } The chief point of generation is the gun area
}
The chief points of generation in our high-voltage TEM are below
the accelerator between the intersystem valve and the 1st condenser aperture.

} so what do all those electron streaming down the column do when they hit
} apertures, valves, etc. Create fluffy bunnies?
}
Mostly, they create brehmsstrahlung (continuous energy spectrum)
radiation.

} } and I have not seen any with less than about 1/2" of steel
} } (often 301 stainless) that must be penetrated. 30keV won't do it.
} }

The half-thickness for absorption is on the order of 100 mg/cm^2,
which is about 0.1 mm of steel. A negligable fraction of 30 keV x-rays
will get through 1 cm.

} And remember this question related to modifications - if somebody starts
} making modifications anywhere they risk letting x-rays out.
}
The modification must involve a sufficiently short path so that
a significant portion of the radiation can pass through. A relatively
thin port would do the job, however.

} I know my dentist runs for cover everytime he x-rays my teeth. I can't help
} wondering as I sit there with the tube against the side of my head and the
} dentist 20 feet away behind a lead-lined wall if there is an international
} conspiracy by dentists to take over the world:)
}
The major reason (s)he runs for cover is that (s)he exposes many
x-ray films per day; whereas you are subjected to this procedure about
once per year. In your case, the benefits outweigh the exposure risks,
but the dentist receives no benefit from x-ray exposure, so trys to keep
that exposure "as low as reasonably achievable".
}
} But you keep assuming that everything is working correctly, in an
} unmodified SEM. I bet the guys at Three Mile Island just KNEW there was
} nothing to worry about.
}
They were more-or-less correct. The guys at Chernobyl probably
felt the same way, but were definitely incorrect. The estimated biolog-
ical effect of Three Mile Island is about one excess cancer in the total
exposed population. TMI was a disaster only to the utility company.
Chernobyl was the real disaster with many people killed from acute radia-
tion sickness and millions more exposed to significant radiation doses,
which will cause latent effects including cancer and genetic abnormalities.

} } Most SEMs don't have anything but steel around the chamber. Some have
} } glass ports for specimen airlocks, but the HV is generally
} } interlocked. I had a customer in Canada who made a Plexiglass port and
} } often ran 12-18 hour EDS scans. He put a film badge inside the metal
} } cover for this port and left it there for a month. He got no report of
} } dosage back after turning in the badge.
}
} Which I for one find very worryinging.
}
We have put thermoluminescent dosimeters, sensitive to millirad
doses, around our microscope and have seen only background radiation.
There is more radiation from the concrete in the building than from the
microscope. Since we are always concerned about the effects of the
modifications we have made over the years, we have taken care not to
provide leakage pathways and have monitored this closely. However, lack
of this sort of attention can, indeed, lead to situations where there
are radiation leaks.
Yours,
Bill Tivol






From: William Tivol :      tivol-at-wadsworth.org
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Dear Larry, et al.,
}
} } A TEM, when compared with a SEM potentially is the greater radiation risk.
} } An SEM with a maximum of say 30kV is insignificant compared with a 200kV
} } instrument. The wavelengths of electrons is changed with accelerating
} } voltage but the K,L,M etc. X-rays generated by these electrons are in fact
} } defined by the minimum electron energy required for their production.
} } Regardless of the electron beam used to generate, the most powerful Cu X-ray
} } is 8.978keV (the eV required to generate defines these X-rays). The minimum
}
Most of the x-rays generated are brehmsstrahlung x-rays, which have
a continuous energy spectrum. A 200 keV electron can produce an x-ray with
the same energy (it is stopped by a large mass--like a heavy atom--which
conserves the momentum, and the energy is carried by the photon). The
argument about characteristic x-ray generation, while correct, is not the
whole story. Another complication is that characteristic x-rays are emit-
ted isotropically, while brehmsstrahlung x-rays are mostly forward-directed.
Since, however, electrons can be elastically scattered in various directions
before producing brehmsstrahlung, the distrubution of such radiation produ-
ced by a microscope depends on what the electrons are likely to hit as they
go through the column.

} The correct way to shield is a double layer of light elements and heavy
} elements - if electrons are going to hit anything, make sure it is
} aluminium or carbon. THEN, you have the lead to stop the Al x-rays - much
} safer and less lead needed.
}
Beryllium is also very good in this regard. One needs the lead
to stop not only the Al x-rays, but the potentially more energetic brehms-
strahlung x-rays.

} The final point that I was raising is that not all x-rays are equally
} dangerous to people. I don't know the detail on this and enlightenment from
} someone who does would be useful. The energy of an x-ray (its wavelength)
} determines how strongly it interacts with matter. It is that interaction
} which causes damage. Something that passes straight through without
} interaction won't cause any damage - I guess we all have pleny of high
} energy neutrinos passing through us every day - with minimal effect. From
} this, very high energy x-rays, in themselves, would not be a direct danger.
} On the other hand low energy x-rays would be highly interacting and easily
} cause damage.
}
The half-thickness for the absorption of tens-of-keV x-rays in
tissue is on the order of a centimeter. Any x-radiation which is pro-
duced by a microscope will, therefore, penetrate far enough to lose most
of its energy in the living part of a person, and would be almost comple-
tely absorbed before passing through that person. A 1 MeV x-ray has a
half-thickness of about 10 cm in tissue, so most of its energy will also
be absorbed before passing through. These values come from a figure in
Friedlander et al., Nuclear and Radiochemistry.

} However, this observation need quantification - which I can't give. It
} would seem that there is an x-ray energy level which would cause most
} damage to a human. Below AND above that energy level would both be less
} dangerous. Now, IF that maximum danger energy is around 10 kV, SEMs will
} certainly be just as dangerous as TEMs. However, if the maximum danger
} energy level is 80 kV, then TEMs are a significantly greater potential
} danger.
}
Unfortunately, the danger vs energy is a pretty flat curve with
a broad maximum. Any scope (or other equipment) from which x-rays escape
has the potential to be dangerous. All the more so since most of us work
around the equipment for a large part of the day.
Yours,
Bill Tivol




From: Dmitry Cherny :      dtcherny-at-mpc186.mpibpc.gwdg.de
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 17:34:10 +0200
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Dear All,

could anybody send me an electronic version of the article "de Ruijter
(1995) Imaging properties and applications of slow-scan charge-coupled
device cameras suitable for electron microscopy, Micron, 26, 247-276" asap
or indicate the web address where it can be found.
Thanks a lot.
With best regards,

Dmitry Cherny

Current address: MPI for Biophysical Chemistry, dept. of Molecular Biology
am Fassberg 11, D-37077 Gottingen, Germany
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From: David Bentley :      dlb-at-u.Arizona.EDU
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Wanted to put in my 2 cents worth before this thread closes.
Obviously both sides have their points, and have made the larger, more
important point, which is if you don't know how sharp the fangs and claws
are, don't play with the cat. This goes for many pieces of equipment
around the EM lab, not just limited to the electron microscopes but also
including sputtering devices, ion mills, evaporators(electron beam
especially), and critical point driers, to name only a few. All are capable
of inflicting injuries as we have seen in the past. Repairs and
modifications should be done by, or at least in consultation with experts
such as Jim, Kenneth, Larry or the manufacturer, who recognize the dangers
and can give advice to avoid them.
A couple of additional things, I wanted to mention; 1. Any time that the
high voltage exceeds 10 kV, regular glass is no longer capable of shielding
against emitted x rays. Lead glass or metal is necessary. 2. It needs to
be mentioned, although we all realize it, the ability to adequately detect
radiation decreases as the energy decreases. A Geiger counter that is ok
at 100kV does not usually truly indicate the magnitude of the radiation at
10 kV. Special equipment is needed at this level. I also understand film
badges and dosimeters also fall off in their ability to detect low energy
x-rays and special devices are needed. 3. Antidotally, I have never
detected a radiation leak in a SEM but easily can find some area in most
TEMs that will give some counts. (Just to add some perspective, you can
usually detect some counts above background, around color computer monitors
which usually operate around 30 kV and at about an order of magnitude
higher current then SEM columns.) In the TEM's the radiation mostly
emanates as beams. Usually the manufacturer covers these areas with lead
shielding. This brings up the 4th item, make sure that all parts are
returned to the microscope and in the proper position while doing repairs
or cleaning. The innocent looking washer or plate may be shielding the
manufactured included to prevent just these same radiation beams or leaks.
Turning on a TEM without the lap shield in place or looking into the oil
fill hole on top of an SEM gun while the HV is operating can subject you to
unnecessary radiation exposure. We have several shields on an older
microscope that can shift out of place easily during cleaning and need to
be checked frequently.






From: Mary Mager :      mager-at-interchg.ubc.ca
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:51:47 -0700
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Dear Randy,
I don't know of any way to dissolve fiberglass, short of HF, so you should
use a dissolvable filter in the first place. Nucleopore filters are my
preference, since they are flat, as the particles sit up on top instead of
down in the mesh and their EDS background is just polycarbonate (C and O).
They can be dissolved, if necessary, in a Jaffe washer in chloroform for 48
hours.
You wrote:
} Hi,
}
} We are analyzing airborne particulates in an ongoing project and one
} question that has arisen concerns the possibility of separating the sample
} from the filter matrix. One particular sample was collected on a small
} fiberglass-type filter, making it nearly impossible to get into the fibers
} with the probe and get decent EDS done on particles. We have tried to take
} an overall spectrum of the filter, then subtract out a spectrum taken from
} an unused filter under identical beam/time/etc. conditions, but we're
} working blind as far as knowing if these results are giving us a real
} picture of what's there.
}
} Is there a way of treating these filters, perhaps with solvents and
} sonication, that would give separate out enough particles to mount on a
} stub? We will try some things here, but someone with previous experience
} might be able to save us considerable time. The idea is to get an
} "overall" composition of airborne contaminants from the site, with
} additional analysis of individual particles, so hopefully what we separate
} from the filter would be representative of what was really in the filter.
} (Aye, there's the rub...)
}
} Hopefully yours,
} Randy
}
}
} Randy Tindall
} Electron Microscope Laboratory
} Box 3EML
} New Mexico State University
} Las Cruces, NM 88003
}
} rtindell-at-nmsu (work)
} nrtindall-at-zianet.com (home)
Regards,
Mary
Mary Mager
Electron Microscopist
Metals and Materials Engineering
University of British Columbia
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CANADA
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From: Larry Stoter :      LPS-at-teknesis.demon.co.uk
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Thanks for reminding us of the issue of brehmsstrahlung.

snips ...

} } However, this observation need quantification - which I can't give. It
} } would seem that there is an x-ray energy level which would cause most
} } damage to a human. Below AND above that energy level would both be less
} } dangerous. Now, IF that maximum danger energy is around 10 kV, SEMs will
} } certainly be just as dangerous as TEMs. However, if the maximum danger
} } energy level is 80 kV, then TEMs are a significantly greater potential
} } danger.
} }
} Unfortunately, the danger vs energy is a pretty flat curve with
} a broad maximum. Any scope (or other equipment) from which x-rays escape
} has the potential to be dangerous. All the more so since most of us work
} around the equipment for a large part of the day.
} Yours,
} Bill Tivol

Which does add considerable weight to the point I was making - just because
the kV of an SEM is lower than that of a TEM, it should not be assumed that
it is less dangerous.

Regards,

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From: Allen R. Sampson :      ars-at-sem.com
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 01:56:54 -0600
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} Larry,
}
} The main point that you have missed is that there is virtually
} nowhere for x-rays to escape from an SEM. The chief point of
} generation is the gun area and I have not seen any with less than
} about 1/2" of steel (often 301 stainless) that must be penetrated.
} 30keV won't do it.
}
} By the time you get down to the chamber, you are generating very few
} x-rays.
}
} You know the x-ray film that the dentist exposes through your cheek,
} Jaw and teeth in 1/25 to 1/10 second? He's using a 70keV 15-25mA
} source. I'm not sure what the target metal is, but it may be copper.
} When I use that film to align a wavelength spectrometer, I am
} exposing it at a distance of about a foot from the beam with an
} absorbed current of 100nA on copper at 30keV. (This is a very high
} current for an SEM. A typical current for EDS work is 200-400pA and
} high res imaging is 1-10pA.) exposure is on the order of 5-10
} MINUTES!

Ken,

You and I come from the common point of ETEC SEMs. I try to use a
wavelength alignment using 400nA, although that can be hard to
achieve. At that point in the system, you are dealing only with a
small subtended angle of the x-ray radiation emitted from the sample,
after passing through a magnetic apeture that removes any electrons.

Regardless, consider the case where an ETEC has lost the small
aluminum plug that covers the rectangular hole machined at the top of
the objective lens. I would not leave that uncovered as it offers a
path for a wide angle of x-rays emitted by the absorption of electrons
in the electron-optics.

Regarding exposure to any ionizing radiation, such as x-rays, care
must be taken to minimize long-term exposure to them. As an
analogy, the current law suits brought by airline flight attendants
regarding secondary tobacco should be seriously compromised by their
constant exposure to the higher background radiation levels at the
flight levels they encountered.

Ionizing radiation is an insidious problem, particularily at the
energies present in an EM. It becomes not a problem of either-or,
but a statistical problem of how-much, how-long. Normally
unmeasured levels of radiation can over the long term produce
potential problems.

Your later comments about the EDS monitor are correct. A typical
survey of the equipment will show a substantial emission from the EDS
monitor, and little or no emission from the SEM. However, you can
not infer that this result means that there is no potential problem
from the SEM.

Computer monitor manufacturers have recently realized the emissions
from their equipment, and have taken steps to reduce them. SEM
manufacturers have always been aware of the problems, and should
have taken mechanical design steps to prevent a problem. But when
those systems are being modified by the user, it is the user who must
be aware of the problems inherent in those modifications.


} Most SEMs don't have anything but steel around the chamber. Some
} have glass ports for specimen airlocks, but the HV is generally
} interlocked. I had a customer in Canada who made a Plexiglass port
} and often ran 12-18 hour EDS scans. He put a film badge inside the
} metal cover for this port and left it there for a month. He got no
} report of dosage back after turning in the badge.
}
} Some day I plan to survey an SEM with a light element detector, then
} survey the color monitor that goes with the EDS. I'm betting that
} there is nothing detectable from the SEM and considerable emission
} from the monitor. Any takers?
}
} TEMs ARE inherently dangerous because they CAN generate very hard
} x-rays that are difficult to contain, and you are looking directly
} at the impact point of a lot of very energetic electrons. The
} column is also far more complex, making it harder to shield.
}
} You're correct about harder x-rays spreading their energy over a
} greater volume of tissue, but you miss the point that the soft
} x-rays can't leave the system. Your color TV at home is probably a
} lot more dangerous than any SEM I've ever seen.
}
} Ken Converse
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}
}
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From: Jim Darley :      jim-at-proscitech.com.au
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 00:19:21 +1000
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Hi - Perhaps I am missing something vital in my understanding of X-ray
generation in EMs.
Why should the bremsstrahlung be lower in SEM? I thought that bremsstrahlung
is the result of electron interaction with the nucleus rather then
electrons. A high continuum (versus defined X-rays) is typical of a spectrum
generated by low atomic number elements. There is not much difference in the
of elements used in SEM versus TEM.

Larry's argument that a SEM is potentially as dangerous as a TEM is at odds
with my understanding of the subject and no valid argument has been advanced
to change my view. I note that normally the various radiations are well
contained in both instrument types, but consider what is happening within a
200kV TEM and a 30kV SEM.

The maximum energy of Pt (78; apertures) X-rays is 73.4keV and that of lead
(82; shielding) is 88keV. It requires about 2.8x of the X-rays defining
energy to maximise the production of those X-rays. In the 30kV SEM maximum
emission of Zn (30; brass parts) with maximum of 10.4keV is possible; some
emission of Mo (42; apertures) with maximum energy X-rays of 20.0keV.
Clearly, a 200kV beam is sufficient to generate at lot of much more
powerful - and I understand that these are also the most dangerous - X-rays.

If my understanding is wrong, still nothing would change to make the SEM as
or more dangerous than the TEM. The TEM's powerful X-rays and primary and
secondary
electrons in turn exite other decreasingly powerful X-rays in a cascading
reaction.
Consequently the TEM not only generates powerful radiation within but also
greater numbers of X-rays of numerous energy levels down to the ultra-soft.

As far as quantity of radiation is concerned: It is true that TEM's are
commonly operated on 15 microamp emission and SEM at 80, but . . . .
Without knowing actual numbers I am certain that a TEM operated at 200kV and
15uA produces not only rather more powerful X-rays but also greater total
numbers of X-rays of all sorts of intensities when compared with a SEM
operated at 30kV and 80 mA emission.

Many years ago I had to assume the additional role of an analyst. I am
mostly self-tought in the relevant physics; I am happy to learn and not
worried that I might be proven wrong. I think it is important that electron
microscopists have some understanding of this topic. My conclusion is: If
you are going to modify an SEM think and consult. If you are going to modify
a TEM, think and consult twice.
Cheers
Jim Darley

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}
Thanks for reminding us of the issue of brehmsstrahlung.
}
} snips ...
}
} } } However, this observation need quantification - which I can't give. It
} } } would seem that there is an x-ray energy level which would cause most
} } } damage to a human. Below AND above that energy level would both be less
} } } dangerous. Now, IF that maximum danger energy is around 10 kV, SEMs will
} } } certainly be just as dangerous as TEMs. However, if the maximum danger
} } } energy level is 80 kV, then TEMs are a significantly greater potential
} } } danger.
} } }
} } Unfortunately, the danger vs energy is a pretty flat curve with
} } a broad maximum. Any scope (or other equipment) from which x-rays escape
} } has the potential to be dangerous. All the more so since most of us work
} } around the equipment for a large part of the day.
} } Yours,
} } Bill Tivol
}
} Which does add considerable weight to the point I was making - just because
} the kV of an SEM is lower than that of a TEM, it should not be assumed that
} it is less dangerous.
}
} Regards,
}
} --
} Larry Stoter
} 17, Rocks Park Road, Uckfield, E. Sussex, TN22 2AT, UK
} email: LPS-at-teknesis.demon.co.uk
} Phone/Fax: +44 (0)1825 767967
}
}
}





From: Nathan Haese :      nathan_haese-at-CompuServe.COM
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:53:56 -0400
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I am looking for a commercial lab in the San
Francisco Bay Area that can do electron microscopy
of blood platelets.

Nathan Haese
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From: Fred Pearson :      eoptics-at-mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca
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Fellow Microscopists:

We are attempting to prepare TEM cross-section samples of LaAlO3 single
crystal subtrate with a few thousand angstroms of YBCO film deposited on
the surface.
So far we haven't been successful using ion beam thinning techniques.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Fred Pearson
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From: Fred Pearson
Date: 1998-04-29 11:38
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Hi Fred,

We've been very successful preparing YBCO on CeO2 on sapphire using the
small-angle cleavage technique (see M.W. Denhoff and J.P. McCaffrey,
"Epitaxial Y1Ba2Cu3O7 Thin Films on CeO2 Buffer Layers on Sapphire
Substrates", J. Appl. Phys. 70 (7), p. 3986 (1991)).
There is an excellent recent update of the technique in: S.D. Walck,
J.P. McCaffrey, "The small-angle cleavage technique: an update", Mat. Res.

Soc. Symp. Proc. Vol.480, pp.149-171 (1997).

If you can't get a copy of the MRS proceeding, drop me a note offline
and
I'll send you some material plus our newest video on the technique,
featuring
Igor and Dr. Cleavinstein!

Cheers
John

John P. McCaffrey
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Fellow Microscopists:

We are attempting to prepare TEM cross-section samples of LaAlO3 single
crystal subtrate with a few thousand angstroms of YBCO film deposited on
the surface.
So far we haven't been successful using ion beam thinning techniques.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Fred Pearson
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From: Chengyu Song :      Chengyu_Song-at-macmail.lbl.gov
Date: 29 Apr 1998 12:08:01 -0700
Subject: Re: TEM-YBCO Sample Prep

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RE} TEM:YBCO Sample Prep 4/29/98

I made a similar cross-section sample with YBCO film on LaAlO3. The trick is
ion-milling only from the back side of the film (substrate side). To do this,
you need a pair of shields mounted on both top and bottom plates of the ion
mill holder, leaving an opening about 90 degree. When mounting sample, put
substrate side towards opening and film side away from opening. The ion
milling time is much longer than normal, but it gives great results.

Chengyu Song
National Center for Electron Microscopy
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
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From: nan h. laudenslager :      nhl-at-early.com
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:55:14 -0400
Subject: Proficiency Tests/Round Robins

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I work in a materials testing lab (minerals, steels, refractories, polymers,
papers and pigment coatings) using SEM, TEM and EDS methods. We are forging
into the ISO Guide 25 culture and need to be involved in proficiency tests
and/or round robins. We currently report elemental composition and particle
size data. I've never been involved in this type of testing before and will
appreciate info and comments about the process.


Nan Laudenslager
Specialty Minerals, Inc.
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From: Joseph J. Wrobel :      mediaguy-at-kodak.com
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 17:13:04 -0400
Subject: Longevity of data on CD-R media

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This note is in response to a recent posting in this list server quoting
sections of an April 20th Business Week article addressing the lifetime
of data on digital media. The author of the posting indicated that CD
storage was a popular choice for the readers of the list server, so I
wanted to clarify some statements in the BW article.

First off, the quoted BW comments about the lifetime of CD media address
CD-ROM, not recordable CD-R. The differences between the two media are
significant (see http://www.kodak.com/daiHome/techInfo/permanence1.shtml
for lots of information on the permanence, care, and handling of CD-R
media).

Secondly, although some CD-ROM media have shown limited life in
accelerated keeping studies, studies published by 3M substantiate an
estimated life of their CD-ROM media of over 50 years (William P.
Murray, NMLBITS, Newsletter of the National Media Laboratory, 2(2), 4,
October 1992).

Thirdly, Kodak has invested considerable effort and expense to develop a
CD-R medium with excellent data life which extensive accelerated testing
allows us to estimate as exceeding 100 years when properly stored (Doug
Stinson et al., NMLBITS, Newsletter of the National Media Laboratory,
9(1), 1, January/February 1995).

The bottom line is that data longevity is a media quality parameter.
Like anything else, some CDs (and some CD-Rs) are made to last longer
than others. If data longevity is important to you, then choose a
supplier that meets your needs.




From: Sharon Coe :      slc6-at-lehigh.edu
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 17:45:49 -0600
Subject: Job Vacancy in the Department of Materials Science and

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Job Vacancy in the Department of Materials Science and Engineering at
Lehigh University

The Microscopy Center at Lehigh University is looking for an innovative
individual to develop and maintain one of the top facilities in the nation
for electron microscopy. Specific responsibilities include developing
microscopy techniques related to computation and developing remote
operation of microscopes for teaching and research. In addition,
individual will maintain instrument and computer equipment and make
networking and image transfer a standard for all our instruments.

To qualify, you should have a BS in computer science, electronics or
electrical engineering and at least three years related experience.
Experience with electron microscopy or other scientific instruments
required. Good communication and interpersonal skills, a background in
laboratory and classroom environment and PC/MAC software preferred.
Overtime may be required.

For consideration, please send resume before May 15, 1998 to: Dr. Alwyn
Eades, Materials Science and Engineering Department, Lehigh University, 5
East Packer Avenue, Bethlehem, PA 18015. Lehigh University is committed
to recruiting, retaining, and tenuring women and minorities.

Sharon L. Coe
Conference Coordinator
Department of Materials Science and Engineering
Lehigh University
5 East Packer Avenue
Bethlehem, PA 18015
Phone: 610/758-5133
Fax: 610/758-4244
e-mail: slc6-at-lehigh.edu
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From: Peta Clode :      pclode-at-zoo.latrobe.edu.au
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 13:16:16 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: CD Burner

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We are using a "Smart and Friendly" 2X6 CD recorder CD-R 2006 Plus and
find it ideal for backing up and saving digital images.

---------------------------
Miss Peta Clode
Zoology Department
LaTrobe University
Bundoora, Victoria
Australia. 3083.

Ph (03) 9479 2177 / 2279
Fax (03) 9479 1551
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From: Joseph J. Wrobel :      mediaguy-at-kodak.com
Date: Thursday, April 30, 1998 4:38 AM
Subject: Longevity of data on CD-R media

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The stability and longevity of images stored on CD-R media is a constant
worry both for myself and I am sure a good number of microscopists
world-wide. We have been archiving images using CD-R for five years now
and have approx. 25,000 images stored at present. In the archive I have
had no failures yet, but a small number of discs which I have supplied to
customers have failed within a year. The CD's in question were stored in
normal conditions and the only difference was that they were carried around.
There was no visible damage on any of the failures. The situation at
present is that we are considering installing a CD duplicator to make
back-up copies of the archive.
It worries me when I see lifetimes of 50-100 years mentioned in relation to
CD-R media. It places a great deal of faith in dye technology which in my
experience should be treated with caution. Unwittingly people reading
about lifetimes like this may store important data which may be
irretrievably lost.


Colin Reid
Electron Microscope Unit,
Trinity College Dublin,
Dublin 2,
Rep. of Ireland.
Tel: 353-1-6081820
Fax: 353-1-6770438
email: creid-at-tcd.ie
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From: George Theodossiou :      GEORGE-at-bunyip.ph.rmit.edu.au
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 16:46:41 EST-10ESUT
Subject: Filiform Corrosion

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Hi !!

I am an honors student, whose project is on the growth mechanism of
filiform corrosion in Aluminium. I'm finishing up my literature
search, and as such am covering all my bases. Is there anyone, who
is doing or has done work in this field who can recommend texts
papers, internet sites, videos etc that they found useful and
informative.

Any suggestions will be appreciated.


Thank you

George


G. Theodossiou
Dept Applied Physics
RMIT
Email: George-at-bunyip.ph.rmit.edu.au
ph:+61 3 9925 3394
fax:+61 3 9925 5290





From: NICK SCHRYVERS :      nick_schryvers-at-ematserv.ruca.ua.ac.be
Date: 30 Apr 1998 11:32:07 +0100
Subject: thin film listserver

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REGARDING thin film listserver

Hi all,

does anyone know of a listserver or newsgroup on metallic thin films ?

Thanks,

Nick Schryvers





From: Ingber, Bruce F. :      bingber-at-commserver.srrc.usda.gov
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 08:05:13 -0500
Subject: SEM electron beam sources

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We are currently investigating the possibility of replacing our
Cambridge S-250 SEM with a new instrument. All of my experience the past
22 years as a hands-on user has been with conventional SEM's equipped
with tungsten filaments but not having cryo-stages. EDS has been an
extensively used option. I welcome any comments from users or vendors
comparing tungsten, LaB 6, and field emission electron beam sources. Our
samples are 60-70% textiles, the remainder biologicals (fungi,
botanical, etc.).

Thank you in advance.

Bruce F. Ingber
Biologist- Electron Microscopy
USDA-ARS, SRRC
1100 Robert E. Lee Blvd.
New Orleans, LA 70124

(504) 286-4270; fax (504) 286-4419
bingber-at-nola.srrc.usda.gov




From: Bruce Batten :      batten-at-spacestar.net
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 08:58:22 -0500
Subject: New Materials Confocal Measurement Device

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Kovex Corporation announces the introduction of a new Confocal
technology designed specifically for the industrial materials market.
Please see our Web site at Kovexcorp.com or contact us directly at
612-486-9830/ kovex-at-spacestar.net for more details on KovexVision.

Bruce E. Batten, Ph.D.
Kovex Corporation
3711 Lexington Ave.
Shoreview, MN 55126
phone- 612-486-9830
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From: pvoyles-at-alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (Paul Voyles)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:48:15 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: CD Burner

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} I have ordered a read write cd rom to back up my digital
} images. The unit I ordered is backordered for another
} month and I am reading some reports that it is not a good
} unit. I have a chance to change my order for another
} brand which is a La Cie 4X CD recorder, from Teac, I believe.
} Does anyone have any experience with this make our could
} anyone give me some advice or comments on what they are
} using. Thank you very much.
} Gary Zajic
} gzajic-at-amgen.com
}

We recently purchased a 4x12x CD-R from a different OEM (ClubMac)
which also uses the Teac mechanism, and have had no problems with it.
The system only a few months old, so I can't speak to long-term
reliability or maintenance, but it was easy to set up and use and
has yet to unsuccessfully burn a CD. We use Astarte Toast software
from a PowerMac 8100/100 with an AV hard drive dedicated to CD
mastering.


-Paul

Paul Voyles
Loomis Laboratory of Physics
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
1110 W. Green St.
Urbana, IL 61801
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From: John Shane :      jshane-at-mcri.org
Date: 30 Apr 98 11:13:08 -0600
Subject: Plant microtechnique contractors

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From: John Shane :      jshane-at-mcri.org
Date: 30 Apr 98 11:13:08 -0600
Subject: Plant microtechnique contractors

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Dear List Members,

I am in need of having some contract plant microtechnique done. Does anyo=
ne have any information on who does this kind of work. My need is urgent.=


Thanks.

John Shane
McCrone Research Insitute
312-842-7100 (v)




From: bsgphy3-at-uconnvm.uconn.edu (JIM ROMANOW)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:39:01 -0500
Subject: Re: CD Burner

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I use a Yamaha CDR 4260, 2x4x6x. They make some of the most reliable drives
on the market. "Smart and Friendly" uses the Yamaha drive for their product
line.


} We are using a "Smart and Friendly" 2X6 CD recorder CD-R 2006 Plus and
} find it ideal for backing up and saving digital images.
}
} ---------------------------
} Miss Peta Clode
} Zoology Department
} LaTrobe University
} Bundoora, Victoria
} Australia. 3083.
}
} Ph (03) 9479 2177 / 2279
} Fax (03) 9479 1551
} ---------------------------
}
} On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Gary H. Zajic wrote:
}
} }
} } I have ordered a read write cd rom to back up my digital
} } images. The unit I ordered is backordered for another
} } month and I am reading some reports that it is not a good
} } unit. I have a chance to change my order for another
} } brand which is a La Cie 4X CD recorder, from Teac, I believe.
} } Does anyone have any experience with this make our could
} } anyone give me some advice or comments on what they are
} } using. Thank you very much.
} } Gary Zajic
} } gzajic-at-amgen.com
} }
} }

James S. Romanow
The University of Connecticut
Physiology and Neurobiology Department
Electron Microscopy Facility
U-131
Storrs, CT 06269
bsgphy3-at-uconnvm.uconn.edu
860 486-2914 voice
860 486-1936 fax






From: Exchange Administrator :      ExchangeAdmin-at-soft-imaging.com
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:59:54 -0600
Subject: RE: CD Burner

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Please don't forget:

CD-RW media are not readable on regular CD drives. Only CD-Rs can be
read on regular CD drives.

Michael Bode
Soft Imaging System Corp.


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} Bundoora, Victoria
} Australia. 3083.
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} } brand which is a La Cie 4X CD recorder, from Teac, I believe.
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From: Tracey Pepper :      tpepper-at-iastate.edu
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 13:41:42 -0500
Subject: Critical point dryers

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Hello world,
I would like any recommendations for the purchase of a new critical point
dryer. We do biological materials (botanical, animal, microbiological,
etc.), but not by the Gallon!! So, something nice and small and user
friendly is preferable!
Thanks!! Tracey
Tracey M. Pepper
Bessey Microscopy Facility
Iowa State University
Ames, IA 50011





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